Leftists Are the Conservatives Now ｜ Wade Stotts ｜ 11⧸25⧸24
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1 hour and 7 minutes
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Summary
Wade Stotts joins me to discuss why the left has become the new right and why the right is losing ground to the left in the culture war. We talk about the role of celebrity and the influence they have on the culture.
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If you haven't noticed, the wave of Trump's victory is sweeping over pop culture.
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You see John Jones offering his belt to Donald Trump as if he was some kind of king that had earned a tribute.
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You see NFL players doing the dance, the Trump dance everywhere.
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It seems more and more like pop culture is getting used to the idea that Donald Trump is here to stay and like the left is panicking and attempting to protect the cultural gains that they've made.
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Wade Stotts just did a great video on why the left seemed to have become the conservatives now.
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And I wanted to have him on to discuss this topic in more depth.
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You've kind of come to be known as the unofficial late night spokesman of the right wing.
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It seems like everyone is now chanting, when will we get a full on Wade show?
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I think you're doing an excellent job over there, man.
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We've been doing it for a couple of years now, so it's good.
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Well, I want to dive into the topic of your latest video because I thought it had a lot of insights that we can kind of expand on,
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especially when it comes to the role that celebrity plays in this preference cascade that now seems to be overwhelming what was a leftist hegemony of the culture.
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All right, Wade, so the basic premise of the video you just made was this point that I think is pretty clear for people if they take a second and think about it.
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Conservatives have been fighting for what they saw as their culture being in danger, right?
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There's constantly this relentless assault from the left on everything that we kind of held as American, that we understood as part of our core identity and beliefs.
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And ultimately, it felt like the right was always on the back foot.
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Conservatives were always failing to conserve anything because they never had the initiative.
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It was always the left who were applying pressure.
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It was always the right shrinking away and always playing defense.
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But now, after this Trump victory, it feels like the left are in somewhat of a similar situation.
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Could you lay that out for the audience a little bit?
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Yeah, this video started out with me trying to understand the feeling I think we all got at some level when we watched the Jaguar ad.
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So that came across our screens and we all felt like it was trying to frame itself as this punk rock.
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This is the rebellious culture, question everything, copy nothing.
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And we all, as we watched it, just thought it felt tired immediately.
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And that was, and along with the point you made about John Jones giving some kind of public decoration of his loyalty to Trump and like he loves Jesus and loves America.
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And when he did that, it felt normal and it felt as a part of mainstream culture as anything could get.
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I mean, those would show up, but it wouldn't be, it would be something that would pop up into our feeds and we'd go, wow, what an amazing thing he's done to stand up in this moment and do something so countercultural.
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But immediately when that happened, when I first saw it, it didn't feel countercultural.
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It felt like it was going along with something.
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And then along, along with that, I, I was watching, I keep up with Jon Stewart as a part, as part of work, I do it for work.
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So I was watching the latest Jon Stewart segment and he was talking about how he was frustrated with Democrats because they were just chasing around Trump people with the Constitution and going, excuse me, that doesn't, it says different here.
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And so that, and he, he was saying, oh, that's how Democrats have always acted.
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They've always acted as chasing around the Republicans who are really getting their stuff done, which is an insane, you know, gaslighting take on how, how Democrats work as, and leftists work generally.
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But him complaining at this, that the Democrats are acting like we've been acting for a long time with the way that Republicans have been acting or the way that people who call themselves conservatives have just kind of made it all click together for me that these guys are.
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Functionally in the same position that we were, have been for quite a bit of time.
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And the fact that, yeah, he was, he was frustrated that they're, they're impotent whining and going on the news and talking about, oh, this is unconstitutional or, oh, this is not the norms or what about advising consent in the Constitution, all that stuff.
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So in doing that, yeah, exactly what you said kind of fell into place where, yeah, these, these guys are the ones who are trying to protect the cultural ground that they have been gaining for the past few decades.
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And a few decades is not a long time, but it is enough time to build at least what they've done.
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And their building, as we both know, is mostly destructive building.
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And so I, I saw on top of all this, as, as all this is swirling around in my head, I saw a post from blue sky, which is its own thing.
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And we can talk about that, but it was this blue sky post where all of the left's accomplishments were lined up like dominoes.
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Uh, and I should have sent that to you so we could show it, but, um, the last one being trans rights.
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And then as you go backward, it goes into like women's rights and gay rights and all this stuff.
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And then literacy is way back in the back, but what, how they see themselves now is we have built this edifice of, uh, you know, for the last few decades.
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And now it's time for us to dig in while Trump assaults, basically all of our accomplishments.
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Um, and you know, you could chalk that up to the left being dramatic or saying, oh, that he's not really going to go after their stuff.
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But I, I like anything that makes them feel that way.
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If, if they're feeling that way that I would like to cheer on any, anything that scares them.
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Uh, so a couple of interesting things there, uh, when you made that point about, you know, John Jones and the, the first, as soon as I saw that John Jones moment, I knew something had shifted because John Jones, and it's been a long time since I've really followed UFC closely.
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So don't, don't, I, I might be misspeaking if he's, you know, changed in some way, but John Jones, isn't a deeply ideological figure and remember him being a kind of a scumbag, uh, in, in, in different areas.
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Uh, and so this is, this is a guy who is a weather vane, right?
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Like he, he probably isn't a huge Trump supporter in general.
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He probably doesn't think deeply about politics, but he recognizes this guy is victorious.
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This is a guy I want to be seen affiliating with.
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And so he turns around kind of hands this, this belt to Trump and with all of the different NFL guys doing the dance and things like you said, it used to be if a celebrity came out and said, Oh, maybe I'm not super leftist.
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Like maybe I voted for Mitt Romney at some point.
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They might could come on like right-wing podcasts after that, but that's about it.
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Like you're going to spend the rest of your life showing up on, you know, uh, on, on random small, uh, right-wing broadcast, but you're not, you're not going to get invited to any of the big casting meetings anymore.
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And I'm sure that still exists to some extent in Hollywood.
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Like I'm, we're not saying, Hey, this has been cleansed from the entirety.
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The left has lost all of its institutional momentum and it's all over and, you know, great, great victory for MAGA.
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It's, it's the end of the left, uh, forever, but there is a definitive shift where you can feel that, you know, the, the, the old saying is the, like you win, you win.
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The man naturally picks the strong horse and, uh, for a lot of conservatives, they wanted to stand around forever and quote principle and these kinds of things, not recognizing that actually victory is the best, uh, way to actually convince people.
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Like it's you, you, you, you win and then you convince them not the other way around, which is very hard in the logic of democracy for people that I think to grasp.
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But you could see that ultimately the fact that Trump was victorious seemed to compel those that were on the edge to start announcing, okay, yes, I'm interested.
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And, you know, I support him those that perhaps didn't think about it a lot, but we're adjacent, especially in kind of these more masculine spheres like the UFC.
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This is something that I think it particularly, we see the cascade and more and more, it has been become okay.
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And even trendy to recognize that Trump victory and want to be a part of it in some way, even if you're not a particularly political person.
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Right. Well, and, and that it started at some level with athletes and pro-level athletes and highly accomplished pro-level athletes is a big deal because yes, these are, these are people who, as you just said, understand what winning is.
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They're, they're not ideological people. They're not sitting around going, well, I've, I've taken the, uh, what was it? Yeah.
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There were quizzes back in the day where you could take like, and go like, does this person's policy positions match mine?
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Um, and then I, then I'll know by the end of this, who I should vote for. Like they haven't taken those quizzes and lined up with Trump in those ways.
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They're just like, oh, this guy is a winner. And he's also like braggadocious. And he also has a spirit that I would like to be a part of.
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Um, and at the same, at the same time, um, when, with this, uh, movement, it's because in, in the video, I talk a little about this, but like they've made Trump into over the past few years, this Uber celebrity, the, the celebrity above all celebrities.
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And not because, uh, they like him, but because they want to turn him into Satan, like Satan incarnate is coming here. And, but they've talked about him constantly.
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And so in doing that, um, if, as long as they're in control of the narrative, that's okay, because they have like, if, if they're casting their characters and they, and Trump is the most famous person in the world because he's Satan got it.
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We're good. Um, but as soon as they lose track of the narrative, as soon as they lose control of the narrative, then all of a sudden that guy, uh, becomes at least not Satan, at least at some level more acceptable.
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And so in doing that, they've now disempowered all of their go-to moves, which is going on all the late night shows, bringing out all of the, uh, celebrities like Taylor Swift and Beyonce.
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Um, those just didn't move the needle in the same way because our, our candidate was the ultimate central figure of American culture.
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Um, and I, I think that's something, the way in which they're responding to it shows that they've, they've kind of played this, uh, they've, they've played this hand and we're just, you know, having fun with it.
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Yeah. It's funny because in the first campaign, a lot of the left eventually came to realize that their elevation of Trump, uh, by focusing on him is actually what won him the primary and the initial election, right?
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The 2016 election, because he was always on morning Joe and everyone thought it was kind of a joke.
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And isn't it fun that this guy's pretending this guy who was in the WWF is going to pretend like he's going to be, you know, the, the leader of the free world or whatever.
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In fact, the Hillary Clinton campaign, like specifically promoted Donald Trump as the candidate, if you remember, because they thought he would be so weak and so ridiculous.
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It was just free ratings, making this guy into, you know, the boogeyman that, that they never were going to have to worry about.
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And so many of them started to realize, oh, we gave this guy too much, but they couldn't stop themselves.
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Like they continued to feed into this, even though now they were just calling him Hitler constantly.
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Like you said, they basically want to just make him a proxy for Satan.
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But the problem is what happens when over 50% of the country votes for Satan, right?
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What happens when you say this guy is like the second coming of Hitler and the country's like, all right.
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That really brings you to an impasse when like how, what you're, what you're now going to say, how you're going to escalate things, how you're going to be taken seriously, unless you're just going to assert that half the American population is just, you know, are Nazis, which seems to be the, the, the, now the continued plan.
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But it's diminishing returns in popular politics here.
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And, and in the same segment that Jon Stewart did, he made fun of the Morning Joe people, Joe and Mika for going and talking to Trump.
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But now they're, because he's in power and because they're basically loyalists to power, they can't keep the same attacks going.
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So they're, they're just sort of going along with whatever's popular or whatever they feel is.
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SNL, not to continue to talk about comedy on television.
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So SNL did, as soon as Trump won, so they had a show right after Trump won.
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And their cold open was this, it started out as this, we all expected part two of Hillary playing the piano, right?
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But what they did is they had this thing that started out serious about how Trump is, has threatened his enemies and he's going to come in and do all this bad stuff.
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And the joke, the turn was, and we have never doubted him for one moment.
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And we hope that everything is going to be great.
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You know, anybody who talks bad about him should be, you know, should, they should punish them, not us.
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That was their attempt at a joke, but at some level they don't want to make him mad now.
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They actually are people who just respond to incentives.
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Uh, and comedians, just like anybody are just kind of a part of the population.
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And so they're, they are probably not going to go as hard after him because at some level they really don't want, they really like having the position they have.
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Everybody's trying to hold on to, oh, I got, I got my big job.
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Entertainment is a bureaucracy, just like everything else.
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But yeah, like, I think that because that momentum is shifting, I think it would, it will be interesting to track, uh, Saturday Night Live sketches.
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Um, though some people, uh, like the late night hosts have decided to continue to dig in, uh, and continue to act like, uh, fascism has come to America.
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And here we are to try to like cry together and laugh together at the end of the day.
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Yeah, it really does, again, give you this understanding that the problem with, let's say, Christian entertainment for the last, you know, decade or two, uh, that people have tried to make, you know, many people have famously pointed out it's, it's just bad for the most part.
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Um, and, and the reason it's bad is not that Christians can't make entertainment.
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In fact, most of the most glorious works of, of culture throughout our history have been made by Christians.
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Hilarious, hilarious though, to call Bach entertainment.
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It's, it's basically the same thing as Striper.
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Uh, and so, yeah, um, and so the reason that it had failed was not that there was something.
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inherently incompatible between great art or even good entertainment and christianity it was that
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the christianity became the only thing that mattered right like the the the christianity
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was forced in every scenario you could not communicate christian values through a entertaining
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or a relatable story you had to put a sermon into each one of the shows or songs or whatever right
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like that you had to interject that moment where you were just lecturing everyone on by the way in
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case you didn't get the 19 subtle hints that kevin sorbo dropped here is a full-on preacher giving the
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altar call at the end just to make clear now for a long time the left had that ability to just kind of
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work their representations into the culture right they wrote interesting movies and songs and
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everything else plays around their values but they didn't feel the need to like give the altar call
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the altar call is a sign of desperation in your media right when you're like no you're not hearing
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me when i was being subtle you didn't pay attention so now i'm going to scream at you and that feels
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like what the late night stuff has i mean for for decades late night has subverted the american
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experience american christianity you know our identities these things that we took seriously
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our culture that has been its purpose but it did so in a fun light-hearted joyful warrior type of way
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ultimately it was able to work in these critiques while still you know not having to beat you over
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the head now they have to do it right they had no we there is no fun on this comedy show this comedy
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show is about getting the biblical truth or you know the the the liberal truth as much as we can
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deliver it and that's just destroying them like you said they they really do feel like the
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conservatives in this moment right well and and like emphasizing your point even more when christian
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media was successful or when people were excited about what was going on is when people were crossing
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over so it was the crossover artist it was the person who could blend in and get involved but not
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you know but nobody noticed that switchfoot was in that nicholas sparks movie or whatever
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um and that was that was the biggest win that anybody could have um and yes you're right also that
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the more overt the propaganda gets the more that that shows that you are in no power that you have
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very little power you're just trying to uh what i've said before about late night shows is that
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their job for the longest time was to uh if they address politics sort of uh police the boundaries
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of normal or police the boundaries of neutral and so as long as they're working with a culture that
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agrees with them entirely then all they have to do is sort of gesture at oh aren't we all sad that trump
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won right oh that's that's kind of an old school so if you watch jimmy fallon again i'm talking about
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comedy on television but if you watch jimmy fallon he's still trying to do that he's still trying to live
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in the past where you can just go oh yeah it's such a bizarre sad thing that trump won uh and then do
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jokes about like weed gummies or whatever about like i'm gonna have to go through a lot of weed gummies
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but um what's the problem is that 50 of his audience at least i mean that's the electorate right so
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50 of the audience or the electorate voted for trump 50 of his audience is not that is probably it's
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probably more uh pro trump people but yeah they don't really know how to exist in a loser position
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but because of the way that they're acting they are and you can see that i mean i mentioned blue sky
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earlier you can see that with retreating from the main platforms where all the power is and where all
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the momentum is so that they can just go exist on this parallel structure and pat each other on the
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back um and i don't want to talk talk down or bad about the folks who wanted to start alternative
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platforms i totally understand the the felt need for that at the time but sometimes that became
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wishful thinking that we're going to be the real powerhouse over here on our alternative thing as
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long as our servers don't get destroyed um but that that rebellious feeling but with no real power
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is exactly what we're paralleling with the the blue sky situation uh and they may feel like they have
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power but it's all the old power it's all the the old celebrities if you go to blue sky it's going
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to be mark hamill and it's going to be i said the reading rainbow guy right levar burton is going to
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tell is is he does not have the cultural power of kid rock right now which is wild to me but people
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would make fun of during the trump campaign how lame it was that kid rock was endorsing trump oh oh it's
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hulk hogan and kid rock and these sort of has-been whatevers but again they are in line with
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the uber celebrity they are on the team of the guy that everybody is talking about constantly
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and so kid rock i'm sure is doing way better now uh i'm sure his concerts are way fuller uh as along
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with all the podcasts that jd vance and trump went on um that's like mainstream culture because people
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can uh operate in a parallel structure but also have real political cultural power and so trump now has
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the ability to confer that uh so he he by going on in this podcast world is getting some of their
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credibility getting some of their uh their cultural cash but he's also conferring it on them so that
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they can move on and then become the new late night hosts or whatever the replacement is uh in the future
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yeah there there's this self-reinforcing aspect of it which how is how you know you are building
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a new media ecosystem and i want to get deeper into especially that point you just made about
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kind of the crossing over and what that means uh because now you know the the biggest thing is the
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right so when you're a christian conservative listening to christian music man like a switch foot or six
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pence none the richer or someone like you know shows up on a major show or in a movie or something and
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that's a huge deal because you are in this kind of subordinate ghettoized entertainment sphere and
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whenever one of your people breaks through that's how you know they are relevant they're only relevant
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when they're appealing appearing on these other platforms that we don't normally make our way into
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and the fact that after the election the the big you know the left of course can't own any of its
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doctrinal failures they can't own the fact that they like told half the country that they were
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fascists and that they want to mutilate children and that the borders should be open even if your kid
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dies from fentanyl or gets stabbed by an illegal immigrant like they can't own any of those positions
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obviously so they're not going to address any of that their big takeaway was well we don't have any
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media presence right like we don't like which is just an insane thing to say as you debate like on an
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hbo show or in your new york times column but but it is a thing that they really did say out loud
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repeatedly right like this is the problem it's the podcast bros you know joe rogan you know we can't
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we can't get onto those shows now obviously that's not true in a large extent because i have every
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confidence joe rogan would have had kamala harris on but kamala harris simply could not survive on the
00:26:56.980
joe rogan podcast because she's so stupid and so fake that she you know three hours in a
00:27:02.940
conversation like you could say donald trump went on a rabbit trail or said something silly
00:27:06.840
but he you know he can get on a show for three hours and look like a human being kamala harris
00:27:12.420
cannot do that she simply does not have that kind of capacity and so they're complaining about well
00:27:18.120
we don't have the access to podcasts or whatever that they do and it seems absurd until you realize
00:27:24.380
oh no actually this is the relevant media now you know we've talked about alternative media platforms
00:27:29.740
we've talked about for for a year i mean my entire life at being in the conservative sphere is when
00:27:36.060
will you know we alternative media it's day is coming it's finally coming i think it it actually
00:27:42.460
did finally come i think this was the election that said no actually the alternative media is the media now
00:27:48.440
the the kind of boomers hypnotized by the tv that that is dying out both generationally and
00:27:54.560
technologically uh the idea that that those mainstream uh are those mainstream sources are
00:28:00.740
going to continue to just have this lock on what is relevant the culture is just completely wasting
00:28:05.460
away and the liberals who have been more or less ignoring a lot of the sphere uh are starting to
00:28:11.080
realize that holding the prestige of uh the you know the new york times or something is not going to
00:28:15.700
be sufficient because actually joe rogan is just a better source of news 90 of the time than your
00:28:21.660
newspaper at this point yeah and when you mentioned like trump may have gone on rabbit trails may have
00:28:27.360
said something silly i think that folks who listen to the joe rogan experience are expecting rabbit
00:28:33.040
trails and people saying things that are silly uh they're not expecting a 15 minute news hit they're
00:28:38.340
not expecting a hard-hitting uh policy discussion they're expecting another episode so a lot of people
00:28:44.560
i'm sure just clicked over to the next episode and wow trump's on it uh though i was one who was like oh
00:28:49.840
i got i make i'll make sure to check out this episode um but that's that was some of the magic
00:28:54.880
of what those shows were like it just felt like another episode of the theo vaughn podcast or it
00:28:59.780
just felt like another episode of joe rogan or another episode of like those people who have built
00:29:04.780
up these relationships through alternative media it's not just that they're trying to do tv on the
00:29:11.480
internet so the podcast a podcast is not the same thing as the news on the internet which is why
00:29:17.140
anytime somebody tries that stuff it just doesn't work um so when when somebody listens to a joe rogan
00:29:22.820
episode and hears trump talk about whales and uh windmills they're like whales and windmills that
00:29:27.960
sounds like a joe rogan episode like that's the exact thing that i would expect here um so it's there's
00:29:33.320
it does bring comfort to those people i think there's another strange thing that um is that the
00:29:40.300
effect that this might have in the future on what mainstream media tries to do so people recognized
00:29:47.260
the that there was some amount of a connection between like the top gun maverick phenomenon of
00:29:52.360
2002 or 2002 of 2022 uh with the somebody feeling like this embodies an american ethos that's lost at
00:30:01.100
some level and that being something that leads toward something like a 2024 election um and so like when
00:30:08.460
um we had uh we did a discussion here uh at canon press with uh indy wilson who's done some work in
00:30:15.120
hollywood and and stuff but somebody asked in the chat whether how this whole thing how the trump
00:30:20.120
election would impact hollywood and he had some interesting thoughts one of them being that uh there
00:30:25.700
will be obviously some folks who will double down so there will be folks who go okay well we just need
00:30:30.240
to go harder we just need to make things that are more woke uh and uh you know not put away the woke for
00:30:35.700
sure uh and then on the other like on the other hand there will be sort of a yellow stoning push you
00:30:41.020
know like the uh some some people who are trying to ape the aesthetics of americana with like you
00:30:47.140
know hick lib understandings all underneath it and then kamala advertisement there with the exactly i
00:30:53.380
know how to eat a steak with my limp wrist so we're gonna get a lot more of those treats i i assume
00:30:58.980
probably in narrative form that that that guy who made that ad is going to get some movie deal
00:31:04.020
um and then another thing he said is that optimism like the thing that people will probably try to
00:31:10.400
appeal to uh the pro trump people is optimism and storytelling um so we'll have the pessimism we'll
00:31:16.760
have the oh satan's in charge of the world and like all these terrible depressing stories but we'll
00:31:21.120
also have a movement toward people trying to appeal to a sense that the future is better than the
00:31:26.920
than things have been in the past and i think that is interesting like i'm interested in if we have
00:31:32.180
more stuff like i mean i love rocky you know like i think that there will be a time where that kind of
00:31:36.960
thing makes sense in american pop culture even if it's a cynical cash grab by a bunch of uh hollywood
00:31:42.720
elites who just want to like sell to people who i guess they feel like things are going well okay
00:31:47.560
cool we'll we'll give them some uh whatever this version of it is but yeah they it's they don't
00:31:54.180
understand these are the same people who don't understand why like obama and springsteen's
00:31:59.400
podcast didn't do well so like they they're still trying to understand like we gave them barack
00:32:05.060
obama and bruce springsteen the two most famous guys that we have and the podcast lasted 18 episodes
00:32:10.880
and went nowhere i'm sorry was this a thing like it was a thing there i i didn't even know it existed
00:32:16.660
i'd never i will send it to you i will send it to you and so that you can listen to it uh yeah i'm sure
00:32:21.360
that you'll just block off hours of your time so you can listen to barack obama and bruce springsteen
00:32:25.680
but yeah like those that's their version of this like they they can't do it they can try to pretend
00:32:31.740
and they can but at the end at bottom of it we all know that it's phony uh and we know how easy it
00:32:37.300
is at some level to put together something that's phony a phony image for the news that can last 20
00:32:42.400
minutes or even last the length of an entire debate wow wow wow um but then by the end you realize
00:32:48.500
like oh it people going on rabbit trails people going on podcast stuff like that's that's a human
00:32:53.720
being that's like i've i've now have access to that person not just in a um yeah not in a curated way
00:33:01.240
and also not in a put on fireside chat kind of way but like i i now know exactly what uh i don't know
00:33:08.720
people can make fun of trump for being uh like stream of consciousness but uh that's good at some
00:33:14.440
level it it like means that he's really bad at being phony uh which is refreshing yeah there is a
00:33:21.780
a huge shift yeah i'm somebody who often has to do like a tv hit and then turn around and do a two
00:33:28.540
hour podcast appearance and just that that gear change is dramatic and boomers expected kind of
00:33:37.180
that packaging every time they interacted with media but the you know the level of kind of openness and
00:33:43.580
sincerity that is often a little more evident overexposed uh long exposure in a podcast is
00:33:50.340
becoming more and more valuable i think to a lot of people a lot of people have pointed out you know
00:33:55.960
guys like jordan peterson selling out arenas you know giving hour or two hour long talks on the truth
00:34:02.280
or the bible these kind of things obviously that's a shift in and of itself but when you're doing this
00:34:07.000
kind of content you just realize you know i've always kind of mixed it up between the the shorter
00:34:10.920
form and then the longer form discussions like the one we're having now and there's a different
00:34:16.740
response to this on a regular basis it's not that there isn't still a value to that polished content
00:34:22.700
being delivered at the proper time but ultimately people i think have recognized that there's a level
00:34:29.360
of fakeness that just gets selected for when you are pushing everything into these shorter time frames
00:34:37.340
these highly edited time frames and left was very good for that on that for a very long time but it
00:34:42.460
lost the ability it lost the muscle to have an extended conversation about anything and the minute
00:34:48.200
that any of these people were exposed to that they just kind of fell apart so yeah maybe trump doesn't
00:34:54.320
give exactly the the answer you'd hope it's maybe not polished or spot on but i mean look at what
00:34:59.580
happened to ron de santis right who like i think is an excellent governor but you know how how does that
00:35:04.420
uh how does that consultant focus style delivery work over the long term actually people over and
00:35:12.000
over again are rejecting that and trying to find something that has a little more of an organic feel
00:35:17.520
to it on a regular basis right yeah and and the the medium allows for that and so as as things have
00:35:25.540
shifted um folks folks can show elements of the personality that they couldn't do like if if jordan
00:35:31.260
peterson jordan peterson is at his best i mean at his best in that kind of long form free associating
00:35:37.080
though this makes me think of that kind of context if jordan peterson were to try to do a five minute
00:35:42.660
news hit or if he were to debate you know jordan peterson destroys leftist in five minutes on the news
00:35:48.240
like that just wouldn't wouldn't work it wouldn't be quite as good at it because he would have to
00:35:51.440
sit there and think for 30 seconds about that what that person just said um and so i i like i said like
00:35:56.740
you said there's value to both but the skills don't transfer and so if we then are now having
00:36:04.260
to watch a bunch of people try to learn a new skill try a bunch of uh leftists who have now trained their
00:36:11.000
entire lives to be this type of person uh now try to make their way here i it it won't succeed at the
00:36:16.680
same level because they didn't have to build it here um they're they're trying to grab skill sets
00:36:21.560
that were built for news it's why don lemon's podcast doesn't work like don nobody cared about
00:36:26.180
don lemon because he wasn't a part of the regime anymore he wasn't a part of uh power anymore so
00:36:30.800
the even even his partnership with x didn't last very long um but he he tried to do it he tried to
00:36:35.980
do his whole thing and now he's doing tiktok videos uh so you see you see like um the i did a whole video
00:36:43.360
on don lemon when uh called when the regime is done with you um because he everybody knew that he was
00:36:49.920
basically a hack and couldn't really host a show very well but he had been given cnn and
00:36:55.600
they are now realizing that their own platforms all the best prizes that they can hand out
00:37:00.800
just don't work anymore there's a there's a great scene in um in tom wolf's book uh the bonfire of
00:37:07.100
the vanities where uh sherman mccoy is sitting across from his dad and he's come sherman mccoy is
00:37:12.760
this guy who's gotten himself in a lot of trouble i won't ruin the book for anybody he's got himself in
00:37:16.320
a lot of trouble and he's come to ask his dad for help and then slowly through the course of the
00:37:20.300
conversation he realizes that all of the numbers in his dad's rolodex can't fix his problem and so
00:37:26.980
these names on this rolodex used to mean a lot and used to be able to used to could clean up all
00:37:33.460
this stuff but that era has passed now and he's in he's has a new problem that can't be fixed by
00:37:39.520
uh these people anymore and i think that's where the left find themselves they they have a new problem
00:37:44.200
and all the old solutions uh just don't all the all the ways in which they've been able to confer
00:37:50.200
and also take away uh any kind of uh credibility just don't fire in the same way and this is really
00:37:59.600
important because everything we've talked about here i think only reinforces the validity of um
00:38:06.200
elite theory as is often talked about uh on my channel and and others in this sphere
00:38:11.580
most people are not heavily ideological they go where power is they they want to receive uh prestige
00:38:21.520
they want to receive status they want to be close to power and so when you see a true shift a true
00:38:30.400
win in the elite sphere everything else moves you don't need to actually convince every you know uh
00:38:39.260
woman watching msnbc on her third bottle of wine like that's not actually necessary if you can shift
00:38:47.720
elite culture if you can if you can nudge it even a little bit the rest of culture moves with you
00:38:53.800
and the fact that so many people is the the minute that the prestige is no longer attached that power is
00:39:01.300
no longer attached they will shift their ideology or they will find ways to tell themselves that they're
00:39:08.180
okay with the new with the new thing really reflects that and ultimately it's also important because
00:39:14.500
we had so many people who were competent who were left outside of the regime right they were people who
00:39:21.220
had unacceptable political beliefs or they had the wrong skin color or you know the wrong religion
00:39:27.280
or whatever they didn't they weren't blessed by the civil rights act uh you know whatever the thing it
00:39:32.840
was that fell short there are so many people building up outside of the normal spheres of power
00:39:38.560
and that's a problem because it means that those spheres of power actually atrophy uh even though it
00:39:44.360
seems like a good move because you're separating people who don't agree with you you're gatekeeping
00:39:48.660
you're creating this moment where your ideological conformity dominates inside every one of these spheres
00:39:53.880
you lose the innovation you lose connection to kind of uh events that are really occurring you lose a connection
00:40:00.840
to those undercurrents that are uh building up inside of your culture and then when there's one of these
00:40:06.680
seismic shifts you don't know what happened right and this is where you see a real circulation of elites
00:40:12.280
all of these guys were building in tech all these guys were building up an alternative media all of these
00:40:17.720
guys were building up in spheres like mine where we're doing you know semi-academic work outside of academia
00:40:24.840
what happens when all of those spheres suddenly get turned upside down and start becoming irrelevant
00:40:30.120
simultaneously right you this is why the left is panicking oh no one's listening to our our media
00:40:35.160
but also no one's listening to our health experts no one's listening to our foreign policy experts no
00:40:40.280
one's listening to our education experts it's not just one failure it's a cascade across every domain
00:40:48.040
they use to completely dominate where more competent people who are more in touch with what is happening
00:40:53.800
are suddenly circulating in and they are panicking for i think all the right reasons really yeah well and and
00:40:59.960
how great was it that two weeks after trump's election i don't know if it was to the day but
00:41:04.840
is when elon's spacex went to go rescue the nasa astronauts that have been stranded at the iss
00:41:12.840
and uh and everybody's watching on this live stream and so we have not just not just like cultural power
00:41:18.360
but also literal power that the regime doesn't have they're they have they're having to go to elon to
00:41:23.800
bail them out of a situation that they created and uh there's there's a real like con like conference of
00:41:29.720
legitimacy that happens in that moment okay i guess we're gonna have to go to go to elon yeah like elon
00:41:35.320
sorry like we made our entire space program a jobs program for people who are like non-binary uh do you got
00:41:44.200
any of that competency over there that you can actually use yeah exactly and like i i said this in the
00:41:50.680
video but like elon is has been such a huge piece of this so not just in spacex but also in the
00:41:56.680
ability for people to be able to speak their minds about things so uh you mentioned the term preference
00:42:02.760
cascade but in order for a preference cascade to happen you have to have a bunch of preference
00:42:06.920
falsification so you can't you have to have a bunch of people who have held back their true beliefs for
00:42:13.000
long enough and then everybody's kind of looking around just as you were talking about earlier people
00:42:18.360
looking around to try to figure out what's okay to believe here and they have their private thoughts
00:42:22.920
in their head and i guess i can't say that out loud now until somebody can say that out loud until
00:42:29.240
somebody can say i don't know if i trust the government to decide when lockdown ends or something
00:42:35.880
like that so like as soon as somebody is able to step forward then other people can join and so since
00:42:42.200
the regime knows that and since the old regime at twitter knew that then they would just cancel
00:42:47.000
everybody who would step forward first or they would delete the accounts or they would uh you
00:42:51.160
know suppress the tweets but now with elon people can register their dissent in public and gather a
00:42:58.440
following and that that at some level starts the dam to break so we have all this falsification and
00:43:04.520
then we have a few people and then the more people who step up the more normal it starts to be so i
00:43:09.160
wouldn't be surprised if the trump dance becomes a phenomenon that just happens like that's the new
00:43:14.280
touchdown dance but it started with a couple of people one guy who was willing to get a fine
00:43:19.000
for pointing at his maga hat uh and then after that slowly okay i guess that's this is just what
00:43:24.600
touchdown dances are this is just like this is the signal that we're having fun and we're on the side
00:43:30.360
and and i gotta you know like being on the side of power it actually it's really fun to be on this
00:43:34.760
side on this on this side of that uh of like to look over there and say oh they're they're acting like
00:43:39.720
the losers now yippee yeah winning is fun wade starts it is fun yeah i'll take your more succinct
00:43:48.920
version and call it mine i like it no the um the fact that like you said you're now getting your
00:43:55.720
touchdown dances from the head republican politician instead of a music video like that means something
00:44:04.040
it certainly does and earlier you pointed out that the left for the first time has something to defend
00:44:12.360
right for a very long time they were involved in unspooling civilization okay here is kind of
00:44:19.880
protestant christian anglo america as we found it we don't want it to be this anymore so we're a
00:44:26.760
coalition of people who kind of want to deconstruct every aspect of that from family to language to
00:44:33.400
religion uh you know history it's all gotta go and for the last you know at least 60 years i would
00:44:40.760
argue longer the left has basically coalesced around this principle of we may not share everything
00:44:47.800
right we may have a devout muslim next to a transgender 12 year old but the thing that we can
00:44:53.560
all get together and do is dismantle america as we portray it in the 1950s right that's kind of their
00:45:00.040
entire uh their entire project but at some point they hit that inversion where they had to start
00:45:06.440
building things right and when they started building things the things they built were kind
00:45:11.400
of this inverted pyramid of dei bio-linenism right like let's just take the people who are least
00:45:18.280
competent in our society and put them at the top of this thing simply because they have x number of
00:45:23.960
traits that didn't get uh you know didn't exist in the original founding of the united states and as
00:45:29.720
we stack those up like that's what will will put you in power and that's great but like over time you
00:45:35.560
build a bunch of institutions that can't do anything as we we already pointed out but now you have to
00:45:41.400
defend that structure and because that structure is incompetent uh the only way to defend that structure
00:45:47.080
at this point is to just say well you're a fascist if you don't want to right like they can't be
00:45:52.680
like oh well we have to be careful about dismantling this because if we dismantle the cdc then maybe we
00:45:57.400
won't get good guidelines on well if we dismantle the fda then maybe we would okay well maybe if we
00:46:03.320
dismantle the united nations you know like you run down all of these uh these institutions and it's
00:46:08.280
just stuff any human who wants anything approaching a competent society wants to dismantle anyway and the
00:46:15.400
only the only way left to defend them is basically just like you were saying trump is satan trump is
00:46:20.520
satan trump is site and that's all they have left and so the the the the mentality of defending
00:46:26.360
something is is very different from the mentality of dismantling it and they went from somewhat
00:46:32.280
trendy to just the worst after school special conservatism you could imagine basically overnight
00:46:39.400
because of this yeah and and what you exactly what you just said is that the only thing holding
00:46:44.600
together everything that they built is their narrative and so as soon as you lose narrative
00:46:49.560
control then the structure that you've built on top of that can't stand uh i mean we talked about i
00:46:55.400
mean competency is one kind of standard but you can justify having an incompetent workforce or having an
00:47:01.720
incompetent institution with a narrative if you have enough control over it uh and you can you can justify
00:47:07.320
really anything any kind of action that you would want to take uh it might seem insane to normal
00:47:12.600
people who aren't living outside of the the leftist narrative but as long as you can appeal to it and
00:47:17.640
that's the dominating narrative uh then you're going to be fine you can you can justify your actions
00:47:22.680
but because they don't have the narrative control anymore they all of the things that they used to
00:47:27.480
do to justify their actions are gone um and so that's that's really good the the challenge then is being
00:47:34.680
able to cohere the this whatever this new movement is to be able to cohere around a new narrative
00:47:41.000
that is pro america that loves all the things that that somehow all of the things that these people
00:47:47.080
have gathered together to fight can then turn into something that they all love so if if this if the
00:47:53.640
trump coalition can be built together by fighting one thing at some at some point they have to coalesce
00:47:59.480
around an alternative narrative and the core of that being that america is cool and it's fun and we're
00:48:05.800
having a good time and then it has to go deeper than that it has to go be fuller but i think i i see
00:48:10.760
narrative challenges as being the main thing that faces the trump movement or the mega movement or
00:48:16.440
whatever this new thing is so uh a little shift in seriousness but i do want to touch on this because
00:48:24.440
just you know while while briefly this is very important but it seems to be that before trump leaves
00:48:32.760
office and yeah i know i noticed that some of our european friends like morgoth were saying uh it
00:48:38.360
is the most insane thing in the world that the american system allows for an election and then
00:48:43.560
basically a couple months for the outgoing regime to destroy the world before the new one comes in
00:48:49.880
i think he's got a fair point there but that's a great line yeah but uh but basically we're watching
00:48:55.160
this scenario where uh they are terrified of trump coming in they really are and and and a lot of people
00:49:01.800
some have been you know enthusiastic about his picks some have been very down on them uh we've
00:49:06.760
talked a little bit about that and prudentialist and i got into it on friday for people who want to
00:49:11.320
want to look at that a little more but ultimately uh it is clear that some level of the bureaucracy is
00:49:17.960
truly worried about trump coming in and cleaning house right and so it seems like the last thing
00:49:26.760
they're doing before they leave is just destroying america as quickly as possible uh like the bide
00:49:32.280
administration has basically been like all right well we only got two months left borders are really
00:49:36.360
open guys like really just everybody in you know like they're they're out there they're they're just
00:49:41.560
airlifting the entire uh you know island of haiti in like it's you know there's some guy with a big
00:49:47.640
net just scooping up patients and dropping them into into every red state they can find uh yeah they're
00:49:54.280
grabbing barbecue yeah it's everything yeah it's like everything it's insane but the the most insane
00:49:59.720
one the most dangerous one of course seems to be the obsession with starting world war three before
00:50:04.760
trump enters so last time trump was in office basically the way that they kept him from doing
00:50:11.960
most of what he wanted to do was the russia collusion scandal right everything was actually trump's
00:50:17.400
a russian agent and he's fighting on behalf of vladimir putin and we have to go through all of
00:50:22.440
these different investigations and and he's relentlessly defending himself he's always on the
00:50:26.600
back foot and therefore he doesn't actually get anything done because he's spending all this time
00:50:31.400
chasing that wheel so the the original narrative to kind of keep trump from doing anything is trump is
00:50:37.080
is an agent of russia now it seems like the key is going to be getting trump to fight russia right
00:50:43.480
like the like the ukraine war is a disaster ukraine has been losing for a long time uh you know this
00:50:49.320
is not me celebrating that but it's just a obvious fact at this point uh anyone who told you otherwise
00:50:56.680
was just a liar uh it's not that ukraine can't win battles or something but ultimately they were
00:51:01.960
always going to be in a very dangerous position going up against a foe like russia and the fact
00:51:07.800
that their entire military strategy is basically uh to drag the rest of nato into world war three
00:51:15.400
uh you know that that is literally vladimir zelinski's only hope it it's all that's the
00:51:20.040
only thing he ever had uh we've made it clear that we're willing to send him all kinds of uh material
00:51:25.880
and support ultimately and it just has not worked like it turns out that the entire you know shell
00:51:31.320
output of the united states and the rest of nato is insufficient uh to fight a war against russia uh
00:51:38.440
and now you're at this point where america has authorized firing american missiles into russia
00:51:45.080
itself so it's not even it's not even that we're just funding them you know we're just sending arms
00:51:49.960
to someone fighting russia which itself would be bad you know bad for uh trying to increase tensions
00:51:55.080
but we're saying no take our stuff and fire it right at the russian homeland go for it you know
00:52:00.440
this is the plan and also newly coming out in the new york times is the fact that the
00:52:06.360
bide administration has seriously discussed the possibility of returning nuclear weapons to ukraine
00:52:13.640
uh which you know the plan is like that will be the deterrent right is we'll just we'll just move
00:52:17.720
that in this seems absolutely insane but it it really is the level of escalation that the regime is going
00:52:25.400
into with just two months before trump arrives in the white house yeah i my i think that they're just
00:52:32.920
hoping that the bombs cover the sounds of the paper shredders that are all going on i think that's
00:52:38.200
that's probably what's happening it's a big it's a nice fun distraction uh for them but it all yeah
00:52:42.280
like it is it is wild that they resort to all of their most like dastardly stuff as they're going out
00:52:50.200
um but again it just it also shows desperation of the regime so like if if this is something that
00:52:56.760
they were hoping yeah they're hoping that trump goes into a really weak position it it would be
00:53:02.280
from what i understand not uh i don't know that putin at some level from what i understand it would
00:53:08.680
be strange for him to start a war with the united states a month out from when somebody he can work
00:53:14.520
with is about to be in charge right but what they're hoping is that he has no choice so they're
00:53:20.120
hoping to put him in a position where i can't let this keep going on um yeah it's it is utterly cynical
00:53:26.760
and get like gives a lie to the idea that this was all um not at all you know that this that this
00:53:33.480
was some kind of moral fight that it just has to be this is this is uh standing up for the little guy
00:53:39.160
uh the fact that they're escalating it now uh plainly in a in an attempt to like change american
00:53:45.400
politics shows that yes this has become a big proxy thing that we we get to go send our weapons to
00:53:51.240
um and yeah no it's it's it's always been at some level a money laundering thing for washington uh but
00:53:58.040
now it's a money laundering thing where it could actually just turn into outright war and money
00:54:02.520
laundering well i mean it's very clear for a long time and especially becomes you know even more clear
00:54:07.880
when you look at the hunter biden stuff when it comes from bio weapon experiments to you know sex
00:54:14.760
trafficking to weapons or whatever it's been very clear for a long time that ukraine has basically
00:54:20.920
been the playground of western oligarchs right like whatever horrible stuff you want to sell sell it
00:54:28.120
through ukraine ukraine if you want to develop something develop ukraine so at some level you wonder
00:54:33.240
can they let russia occupy ukraine lest russia discover all of the things that the west was doing and
00:54:41.560
make it public that you know what what these guys were doing and again i i sympathize with ukrainians
00:54:47.720
that do not want to be part of russia i you know i this is not me rooting for you know their their con
00:54:54.600
you know them being conquered or anything but obviously there are russians in ukraine that want to
00:54:59.880
be part of russia and so it feels like there could have been some kind of deal worked out you know pretty
00:55:05.480
early on to avoid this and yet it was very clear that it was important to continue this
00:55:11.480
and now you're ramping it up to this insane position uh that just like you said it would be
00:55:17.480
foolish of vladimir putin to enter into a war at this point you're you're you're literally a month
00:55:22.040
and a half from probably being able to figure out a peace deal it would be you know they they would
00:55:27.400
really have to do something insane however that does seem to be the plan is to get as close as
00:55:32.120
possible or jump deeply over the line repeatedly daring vladimir putin saying oh well you're just gonna
00:55:38.440
let us do whatever we want you know right before this happens hoping hope hopefully to draw him off
00:55:43.960
sides before you know he can end up uh getting getting a a peace deal through trumpet and kind
00:55:49.400
of ending this conflict so it is the most deeply cynical thing that you can imagine and it really
00:55:56.200
just shows you that there is very little that the regime won't do to try to sideline trump and make it
00:56:04.440
very difficult for him like you said you know the the people the uh the department of defense um
00:56:09.800
probably got a few few skeletons in the closet probably working that that shredder over time
00:56:13.720
but if you can get get a you know war plan spooled up then maybe trump doesn't have time to go through
00:56:19.000
and weed everybody out of that department he's got other things he's got to do and that does genuinely
00:56:24.360
seem to be part of their plan yeah and and with with covid it really hit him personally uh i think trump
00:56:32.360
had to get into it mainly because he's personally a germaphobe so they got they got him on that
00:56:37.000
because he's personally a germaphobe and then if they get him into a war then that's just also like
00:56:42.120
linking him at some level with russia or or if trump has too good of a relationship with putin and is able
00:56:49.560
to at some level work out a peace deal uh slow things down get him on the phone now um then attacking
00:56:56.040
him as being a guy who just wants russia to run rampant over the entirety of europe uh could be
00:57:02.680
a really easy way for people to try to get trump out of office here uh so if if all of that activity
00:57:07.880
that's going on over there really is proxy stuff for what's going on here um then you know yeah war
00:57:15.160
could be really bad like work obviously for uh for trump but also like at some level him working out a
00:57:21.640
peace deal may be the the way that they're trying to get this uh get him out as well um i guess they're
00:57:29.640
hoping for either outcome they can get trump out right yeah i mean it it does it does feel like building
00:57:36.040
up that connection with russia yeah you could renew those lines of though they don't you know they were
00:57:41.000
probably banking on having control of one of the houses of the legislature to move any of that but they
00:57:48.200
don't even have that at this point which again only speaks to the desperation of their situation
00:57:53.240
right as you as you pointed out repeatedly in the video and and today proximity to power is what
00:57:58.360
matters for these platforms and all of these guys are now going to be impotently screaming oh we have
00:58:03.400
to do something about trump we have to do something trump well what are you going to do are you going
00:58:06.680
to bring him before the supreme court that he appointed or you're going to you know you're going to ask
00:58:10.920
his republican legislature to call him up on charges like you can you can try to smear him but you
00:58:17.160
you don't have the control of government that allows you to bring you know all these different
00:58:21.960
trump uh you know uh loyalists and stuff in front of committees for hearings and and questions and all
00:58:28.600
these things you simply don't have the ability to prosecute that the way that you did before
00:58:33.400
you you hope i guess as the left that your deeply seated control of the of the deep state
00:58:39.080
will will save you in this moment but it seems like trump is aware of that so many of the you know
00:58:44.600
and i'm sure a lot of it's bluster but we've already heard about doj officials and dod officials
00:58:49.640
you know oh we've got to leave we all got to get out of here these are all jobs that trump gets to
00:58:55.240
fill without having to fire anybody if there really is a mass exodus from these uh from these different
00:59:00.280
institutions when trump enters office that only secures his ability to make sure that there's
00:59:05.560
really nothing the left can do to sideline his agenda right and as the the point that i think we're
00:59:11.720
both making is that this is an insane amount of momentum and an insane amount of power that are
00:59:17.320
at least insane relative to where the right has been in the past um and so if that momentum if we
00:59:24.840
can hold on to that because the right at some level in america has been um used to losing and sort of
00:59:32.360
being in that position for a long time getting a lot of those same people to then act like winners is
00:59:37.400
going to be a tough sell and be a tough operation like a tough os update to okay you you are now the
00:59:43.160
winners and now you're supposed to act like it um and so the hope is that that can that change can
00:59:48.200
happen and if it can't happen then a lot of replacement of those uh right-wing elites needs
00:59:53.320
to happen as well because if i mean one one reason that i'm thankful that trump uh lost in 2020 is that we
01:00:00.520
have jd vance as uh part of the movement um not that i you know i i didn't i wouldn't wish that uh
01:00:06.440
in a vacuum but jd vance being a replacement for mike pence mike pence being a guy who knows how to
01:00:12.680
lose really well knows how to be in that position of the person who's uh fact checking everybody in
01:00:17.240
or like constitution checking everybody um i i think that the the momentum that we have i think we
01:00:22.440
can hold on to because of the way that that movement has undergone the character change that it's
01:00:28.040
undergone in the past four years uh i think is is promising and i'm i'm hopeful but i'm i uh yeah
01:00:33.960
i hope i hope that we can coalesce as a narrative uh under with a narrative and also act like winners
01:00:41.400
uh now that we are yeah they have already seen you know some uh big accounts and uh you know the
01:00:48.360
libertarians you know creeping in and being like oh well power you got to be careful if you you give the
01:00:54.360
government power might get used against you uh you know we're already seeing that kind of loser
01:00:59.160
mentality creep in in some of these areas uh ran paul wrote something about how you you don't use the
01:01:06.120
military for deportations you know rand is good on a lot of stuff but it's like okay man i i need you
01:01:12.760
to break out of this like we don't have we don't have time to we can there we don't have time for
01:01:18.120
another cycle of controlled opposition we simply do not have time right the the country cannot afford
01:01:25.240
to go through this again where we do like the reagan retrenchment and things get a little better
01:01:30.200
but we're just setting ourselves down a path ultimately to just ratchet farther and farther
01:01:35.160
because the next click uh for the left is over the cliff like so you can't you can't sit here and be
01:01:41.480
like oh well you know well ultimately uh we we can't really take any power or make any big changes
01:01:46.680
because it could come back and and and hit us hard like no you you've got to recognize that
01:01:51.560
if you do not shake the foundation of these institutions now uh then this will all just
01:01:56.760
snap back into place the minute trump's gone yeah and we're in a position now uh because that coalition
01:02:02.440
is so broad to engage in a lot of debate which i think is a way better position than it would have been
01:02:07.720
if harris were in power um but it's still a contentious position to be in so they're going to be
01:02:13.960
a lot of people within that coalition who want one thing and some people who want another
01:02:17.720
um and so because i'm a girard fan i know that because we're close now because all these people
01:02:23.480
are now want the same thing or got in they got in because they hate the same thing or whatever
01:02:28.840
um that's where the new conflicts are going to be so the more alike we are the more likely that
01:02:35.320
conflict is going to come in uh and so i my hope is that we can recognize the girardian nature of that and
01:02:41.480
uh also be able to accomplish things make wins that are not uh at the expense of past wins or at the
01:02:48.440
expense of future wins yeah the nexus runs through peter thiel's own uh personal collection of of
01:02:56.360
philosophers but yeah no uh all right guys let's uh let's move over to our questions of the day from our
01:03:05.000
audience uh before we do wade where can people find your excellent show well i'm on youtube uh the wade show
01:03:11.000
with wade and i'm also on x and uh at canon plus we have the i have the wade show with wade uh on
01:03:17.960
that's public and then the podcast is over on canon plus at canonplus.com yeah you know we've won when
01:03:25.080
elon buys msnbc and wade becomes the late night host that's that's really what that would be a blast
01:03:31.640
that would be a blast do it from the rachel maddow set like
01:03:37.800
all right i would love it yeah i won't change a thing i'll just go in and just you just sit right
01:03:41.880
down uh all right i love it you have to get her exact glasses though i need you oh yeah yeah no yeah
01:03:48.760
robert winesfield here says uh the wade show with wade is absolute gold many people are saying if you can
01:03:54.600
deny well thank you robert uh john morton says a great show guys uh slightly off topic but have
01:04:02.120
you considered interviewing michael sweet about his career i would love to interview uh michael
01:04:07.560
sweet or anyone from striper who would like to come on uh so you know open invitation i don't really know
01:04:13.480
how to uh get in contact but by all means if you if you can book striper on the show uh feel free
01:04:19.720
we'd be happy to have that conversation of me doing the paul mccartney uh you know bit from
01:04:27.000
from snl yeah remember that time it was great that was awesome uh jose velasca says wait guys
01:04:34.200
vaution destiny said trump is bad i mean another thing that's going to be interesting is going to
01:04:39.720
be watching to see if we we had get that shift of streamer culture right we had so many of these guys
01:04:46.200
who are professional defenders of the regime uh you know hassan piker and bausch and dusty and all
01:04:51.960
these guys uh if we if we start moving away i know we've already seen like david packman those guys
01:04:58.440
complaining that they're losing youtube subscribers uh those guys have to go somewhere so very interesting
01:05:04.440
to see if we get an overall shift in streamer and commentator culture right or if they try to blend in
01:05:10.200
that would be yeah a fascinating thing where they're just like like what was the thing when uh when aoc like
01:05:15.160
a couple days after the election did some stream where she was like what podcasts are you guys
01:05:19.640
listening to if you're on the right at all just uh send those to me it's i i won't do anything weird
01:05:24.920
with them i won't report you or anything i just i just want to learn i mean we're gonna say that with
01:05:30.280
from destiny i'd like to believe that somewhere an aoc intern is listening to us right now uh yeah but
01:05:37.240
but yeah it will be interesting it would be amusing to see like vausch like delete his browser history put
01:05:42.120
on a maga hat you know see what he can see what he can do yeah great
01:05:48.680
uh try try cath vausch incoming uh life of brian says trump still wants mitch mcconnell to like him
01:05:57.880
what's the opposite of cautious uh optimism look man i i don't know uh the mind of trump uh when it
01:06:06.200
comes to whether or not he wants mitch mcconnell like him i think he wants mcconnell to do the things
01:06:11.000
he wants to do um but uh you know the good news is one way or another mitch mcconnell will not be
01:06:16.920
ruling over us very much longer uh so there's that and cherub cow just gives us a thanks well thank you
01:06:23.960
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