The Auron MacIntyre Show - May 15, 2024


Mass Democracy Is a Solved Meta | 5⧸15⧸24


Episode Stats

Length

47 minutes

Words per Minute

186.39833

Word Count

8,777

Sentence Count

488

Misogynist Sentences

5

Hate Speech Sentences

30


Summary

In this episode, Oren explains the concept of democracy as a solved metagame, and how it can be applied in real life. He also talks about Tony Blinken's new book, "Solved Metagame: How We Can Fix Our Democracy," and why voting should be abolished in Ukraine.


Transcript

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00:00:30.000 Hey, everybody. How's it going?
00:00:31.980 Thanks for joining me this afternoon.
00:00:33.680 I am Oren McIntyre.
00:00:36.220 Have you ever been in the situation where you're doing a large press tour for your new book
00:00:43.060 and all of a sudden you get slammed by a terrible bout of seasonal allergies?
00:00:48.740 That's where I am today.
00:00:50.040 I've been talking all day and, you know, got everything going on with the allergies.
00:00:55.060 So if I'm coughing a lot or if my voice sounds weird or if I'm drinking more water than usual,
00:01:01.280 that's why I'm just worn out a little bit from the grind of trying to do this
00:01:07.480 while also having this overwhelming allergy attack while doing all these interviews.
00:01:14.300 But I am happy to be here.
00:01:15.760 It's always a pleasure to talk to you guys.
00:01:19.220 And of course, today I want to talk to you a little bit about the idea of democracy as a solved metagame.
00:01:26.100 A lot of people may not be familiar with the concept of the metagame.
00:01:29.480 But of course, if you are a gamer, if you're somebody who is very familiar with online games,
00:01:35.020 I think you'll appreciate some of this as well.
00:01:37.280 But I think this is a really important insight for people to grasp
00:01:40.480 because when you're looking at something strategically,
00:01:44.120 you want to understand the number of options you have available.
00:01:47.740 And if there aren't a lot of good options available,
00:01:50.680 you need to understand the necessity of shaking up the board
00:01:53.480 because if you continue to try to play losing strategies in a solved meta,
00:01:58.280 then you're going to end up where a lot of people on the right are now,
00:02:01.200 throwing your head against the wall day in and day out,
00:02:04.060 trying to understand why everything that you do doesn't seem to come back with any serious results.
00:02:10.120 So I want to explain the idea of a metagame and what a solved metagame is for you guys.
00:02:15.500 And I want to dive into a little bit about how that might be something we can shift.
00:02:20.940 Also, I want to tell you a little bit about Tony Blinken
00:02:23.880 and his assertion that Ukraine is basically suspended its democracy in perpetuity
00:02:31.040 because we're in a battle for freedom.
00:02:34.060 And democracy, as long as we don't actually have to vote.
00:02:37.800 Voting is, of course, very dangerous for democracies
00:02:40.240 as we keep learning over and over again from our ruling elites.
00:02:42.980 So I want to go into that revelation that has been delivered to us on high
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00:04:20.920 All right, so it's going to come to a shock for a lot of you.
00:04:24.100 I know you're not ready for this revelation,
00:04:25.880 but it is unfortunately the case.
00:04:27.960 I am a big nerd, and because I'm a big nerd,
00:04:31.080 I'm very familiar with the idea of competitive gaming.
00:04:34.900 Not so much video games, though, of course, I have played video games,
00:04:37.780 but not really competitively.
00:04:39.440 I have played online games that do have metagames,
00:04:42.320 but most of my conception of the metagame
00:04:43.900 comes from competitive tabletop games.
00:04:46.660 I played a lot of competitive Magic the Gathering tournaments
00:04:49.340 and Warhammer 40k tournaments.
00:04:52.640 And so I want to take the concept of the metagame
00:04:56.280 and explain it to people,
00:04:57.260 because I think it's critical to grasp the situation we're in with politics.
00:05:00.620 And you can tell we're doing very serious politics here
00:05:02.660 because I'm comparing it to battling with cardboard
00:05:05.600 and plastic miniatures and possibly video games.
00:05:08.020 But I do think this is applicable.
00:05:09.560 So stay with me, even if this sounds a little nerdy for you,
00:05:12.460 because I think ultimately there is something to learn here.
00:05:15.880 So for those unfamiliar with the concept of a metagame,
00:05:20.360 whenever you play a game,
00:05:22.200 obviously you are playing that competition,
00:05:24.720 that one iteration of the game.
00:05:27.420 But if you're playing multiple iterations of a game over time,
00:05:30.800 we have what was called a metagame development.
00:05:34.260 And a metagame is when you start looking
00:05:36.540 not just at the individual games that you're playing,
00:05:40.240 but you are playing,
00:05:41.340 but that over a series of games,
00:05:43.760 a pattern starts to emerge.
00:05:45.940 And you don't have to be a huge nerd to recognize this.
00:05:49.020 If you've involved yourself in any kind of game,
00:05:51.600 you'll know that there are certain strategies.
00:05:53.660 If you played football or if you've watched UFC fights,
00:05:58.900 you realize that there's different strategies
00:06:00.620 that work in certain scenarios.
00:06:02.720 If everyone is playing a certain type of defense,
00:06:06.680 then maybe it's better to go ahead and run the ball
00:06:09.280 if everyone is spread out for pass coverage,
00:06:11.120 or it's better to go ahead and throw long distance bombs
00:06:14.300 if they're constantly trying to play against teams that run.
00:06:18.560 Running is far more popular at the time.
00:06:20.840 You know,
00:06:20.980 the UFC went through different iterations
00:06:23.200 where Muay Thai and Jiu Jitsu were critical
00:06:27.840 and then wrestling became a critical skill
00:06:30.540 and you had to adapt the way that you understood
00:06:32.960 the application of different martial arts.
00:06:34.580 You went from everyone being like,
00:06:35.740 I can do Taekwondo and karate,
00:06:37.640 understanding that the metagame of the way that the cage worked
00:06:41.220 and the way that the rules worked
00:06:42.400 meant that these certain grappling arts
00:06:44.520 in this particular application of these skills
00:06:46.620 tended to settle down the wider variety of strategies
00:06:51.400 that you could really train in.
00:06:52.680 And you should really optimize your strategy for the field
00:06:56.380 and bring in specific skill sets.
00:06:58.280 And this is true of gaming as well.
00:07:00.760 In fact,
00:07:01.000 it's very true of gaming.
00:07:02.220 When you're playing a Magic the Gathering deck
00:07:04.640 or a Warhammer 40k army,
00:07:06.400 you might have a particular way
00:07:07.580 that you want to play that
00:07:08.720 and an idea of what you think is good.
00:07:10.880 But it's not so much what is good in isolation
00:07:13.340 as what is good against the wider field.
00:07:15.700 What strategies are other people deploying?
00:07:18.140 You can have a great strategy
00:07:19.400 when you're just thinking of it in the abstract in isolation.
00:07:23.260 But if you're not comparing it
00:07:24.520 to the way that other people are playing
00:07:26.060 their decks or armies
00:07:27.720 or fighting their UFC fights,
00:07:29.800 if you're doing your strategy just in isolation,
00:07:32.180 then you're a fool
00:07:32.900 because eventually you're going to run into the reality
00:07:35.460 that over many different games,
00:07:37.460 many different fights,
00:07:38.320 many different iterations,
00:07:40.480 a metagame develops
00:07:41.660 and people who are good at these competitions
00:07:44.920 pay attention to the metagame.
00:07:46.940 They don't just play their particular strategy.
00:07:49.080 They don't just hone their craft.
00:07:50.880 They pay attention to the way
00:07:52.020 that other people are playing
00:07:53.440 or applying their skills
00:07:55.680 and they go ahead and adjust.
00:07:57.580 They make sure to optimize
00:07:58.600 because you're never going to have
00:07:59.960 the perfect strategy against everyone.
00:08:01.860 But if you understand the metagame,
00:08:03.980 then you can optimize as much as possible
00:08:06.520 for the likely strategies and applications
00:08:08.920 that you're going to see.
00:08:10.580 And that's going to make you the best competitor.
00:08:12.600 That's going to give you an edge
00:08:13.740 over those that are unfamiliar
00:08:15.220 or have not honed their skills in the metagame.
00:08:18.420 Now, when metagames start,
00:08:20.360 when a game starts,
00:08:21.600 you have a format, right?
00:08:23.080 Like you have a particular way
00:08:25.140 that the things are shaking out.
00:08:27.240 Maybe this particular strategy
00:08:28.860 is being tried over here in the UFC.
00:08:31.040 Someone's using karate.
00:08:32.480 Someone's over here using wrestling.
00:08:34.340 Or if you're playing Magic the Gathering,
00:08:36.260 someone's using an aggressive deck
00:08:38.100 and someone's using a control deck.
00:08:40.220 And at first, there's different ways
00:08:42.400 you can understand those conflicts
00:08:45.160 or those matchups.
00:08:46.720 But over time,
00:08:47.700 the people who are using specific strategies
00:08:49.660 start adapting the way
00:08:50.980 that they play their strategy
00:08:52.420 to the other strategies involved.
00:08:54.280 And you can predict the type of things
00:08:56.640 that they're going to do
00:08:57.640 based on what you're going to do.
00:08:59.880 And so it's not just a,
00:09:01.540 oh, I need to optimize my strategy,
00:09:03.420 you know,
00:09:04.220 to against these different things
00:09:05.840 that are going to be applied against me.
00:09:07.300 But you can actually tweak your response
00:09:09.240 to their response.
00:09:10.280 You can get these things down
00:09:11.500 in very minute detail
00:09:13.260 and understand the give and take
00:09:14.900 of any given matchup on a regular basis.
00:09:18.100 And this becomes incredibly important
00:09:19.880 because solved metas are a real issue.
00:09:23.860 See, as the meta
00:09:25.120 goes through different iterations,
00:09:27.320 as the metagame goes from being unsolved,
00:09:30.140 it's a mystery.
00:09:30.980 There's a lot of different inputs.
00:09:32.300 People don't understand the intricacies.
00:09:34.120 You're playing out the different iterations.
00:09:36.160 You're finding what works and what doesn't.
00:09:37.640 You're testing the limits of each strategy.
00:09:40.140 There's a lot of variety that can arise
00:09:42.480 because you don't know
00:09:43.680 what the best strategy is.
00:09:45.480 And there's a lot of improvisation
00:09:47.580 and different applications
00:09:48.880 of different skill sets.
00:09:50.160 And so you have a lot of different options.
00:09:52.300 But as the iterations play themselves out
00:09:55.140 on a longer and longer timeline,
00:09:56.980 you start to see things collapse
00:09:58.780 towards a particular decision point.
00:10:01.180 Again, if you want to put this
00:10:01.940 in a less nerdy understanding,
00:10:03.740 you can put this in the UFC.
00:10:05.000 When the UFC started,
00:10:06.420 there's the wide variety
00:10:07.520 of different striking styles
00:10:08.660 and grappling styles.
00:10:09.600 And the cool thing about it
00:10:10.780 was that you could bring
00:10:11.520 all these really wild ways
00:10:13.400 of doing combat together
00:10:15.020 and see, you know,
00:10:16.060 answer all those old questions
00:10:17.480 of, you know,
00:10:18.160 who would win,
00:10:18.700 the wrestler or the kickboxer
00:10:20.040 or the karate guy or the boxer
00:10:22.260 or, you know,
00:10:22.840 all these different things.
00:10:24.540 But eventually you figured out
00:10:26.040 that there was a particular mix
00:10:27.740 of wrestling and jujitsu
00:10:29.140 and Muay Thai striking
00:10:30.780 that kind of was the optimal version.
00:10:33.700 And it didn't mean that people
00:10:34.760 couldn't come in
00:10:35.520 with slightly different versions of this.
00:10:37.360 And there's moments
00:10:38.300 when people would break out
00:10:39.500 because they had particularly
00:10:40.560 impressive skill set
00:10:42.820 in a particular area.
00:10:44.020 Guys like Lyoto Machida
00:10:46.700 come to mind
00:10:47.500 where he brings karate back
00:10:49.240 in a way that no one had seen
00:10:50.400 in the UFC for a very long time
00:10:52.160 because of the metagame
00:10:54.000 had kind of dwindled
00:10:54.960 everything down
00:10:55.680 to this subset of
00:10:56.820 of kind of wrestling,
00:10:58.360 jujitsu and Muay Thai striking.
00:11:00.860 So there are people
00:11:01.400 that can break through.
00:11:02.160 But in general,
00:11:03.040 all of these things collapse
00:11:04.240 to a particular strategy.
00:11:05.580 There becomes a particular way
00:11:07.380 you should do things.
00:11:08.500 And the more inputs you have,
00:11:10.580 the faster the meta gets solved.
00:11:12.340 So for instance,
00:11:13.560 I was a Warhammer 40k player
00:11:16.060 for a long time
00:11:16.980 where and I was successful
00:11:18.220 because there wasn't
00:11:19.520 a lot of data.
00:11:21.140 There wasn't a lot of
00:11:22.380 online strategy
00:11:24.220 in the way that there were
00:11:25.480 for other metagames.
00:11:27.060 And because I was used
00:11:27.960 to being a competitive gamer
00:11:29.260 in a situation
00:11:31.060 where things weren't
00:11:31.960 that competitive,
00:11:33.060 I got to use the fact
00:11:34.500 that I was pretty good
00:11:36.120 at this to my advantage.
00:11:37.360 I got to solve
00:11:38.880 these metagames
00:11:39.740 before other people did
00:11:40.900 because I could see
00:11:41.580 the patterns involved in them.
00:11:43.340 But once there got to be more,
00:11:45.540 there started to be apps
00:11:47.660 on phones
00:11:48.460 and people started reporting
00:11:49.780 what was happening
00:11:51.240 online in these tournaments,
00:11:56.140 the metagames got
00:11:57.060 more and more complex
00:11:58.540 and they started to get solved
00:12:00.040 faster and faster
00:12:00.820 because it turns out
00:12:02.540 that like a thousand monkeys
00:12:04.040 slamming on a keyboard
00:12:04.940 will eventually get you Shakespeare.
00:12:06.960 And having more and more data
00:12:08.620 will eventually kind of
00:12:09.460 grind out the perfect solution
00:12:11.080 to how you should be
00:12:12.020 playing any given game.
00:12:13.540 game and the same thing
00:12:15.100 was true of Magic the Gathering.
00:12:16.540 It was something
00:12:16.980 that was mostly played
00:12:17.660 on tabletops
00:12:18.580 and then it had a metagame
00:12:20.220 because people were talking
00:12:21.220 about it online
00:12:21.960 and they shared articles
00:12:22.920 and things and so
00:12:23.740 that meta developed faster.
00:12:25.300 But once Magic Online
00:12:26.520 and eventually Magic Arena
00:12:27.980 became a thing,
00:12:29.040 there were just hundreds
00:12:30.440 of thousands of matches
00:12:31.540 constantly be playing
00:12:32.620 iteration after iteration
00:12:33.840 after iteration.
00:12:35.320 And the fact that
00:12:35.900 you always have this data
00:12:37.280 and you always have these people
00:12:38.480 working against each other
00:12:39.560 meant that metagames
00:12:41.080 got solved very quickly.
00:12:42.540 They mutated
00:12:43.540 and then eventually
00:12:45.080 it became very clear
00:12:45.960 like what the best strategy was
00:12:47.300 and that got locked in.
00:12:49.260 And once the thing
00:12:50.420 you need to understand
00:12:51.100 about a solved meta
00:12:52.160 is like once the metagame
00:12:53.740 is solved,
00:12:54.540 once all the possible
00:12:55.920 permutations of a game
00:12:57.940 have been played through
00:12:59.140 and you understand
00:13:00.460 that there's only
00:13:01.180 a few viable strategies
00:13:03.820 that can really break through
00:13:05.780 and win in any given situation,
00:13:08.000 then it stops being,
00:13:09.600 the game stops being
00:13:10.480 about figuring out the game,
00:13:12.360 figuring out the strategies,
00:13:13.560 finding new novel ways
00:13:15.060 to apply different things.
00:13:17.200 And it becomes more
00:13:18.580 about perfection, right?
00:13:20.260 Getting very good
00:13:21.440 at the handful
00:13:22.260 of viable strategies
00:13:24.780 inside that metagame.
00:13:27.560 Solved metagames
00:13:28.060 are actually very bad
00:13:29.280 for instance,
00:13:31.520 for video games
00:13:32.440 and for card games
00:13:34.020 and all these other things
00:13:34.900 because solved metagames
00:13:36.380 become stale very quickly.
00:13:37.620 People don't like them.
00:13:38.360 There's no variety.
00:13:39.120 There's always the right answer
00:13:40.400 and that's not what,
00:13:42.300 you know,
00:13:42.400 that's why you're not
00:13:43.400 playing chess
00:13:44.080 because you want
00:13:44.840 that random element.
00:13:45.840 You want that ability
00:13:46.620 of that flexibility.
00:13:48.140 Those solve,
00:13:48.860 chess is another,
00:13:50.060 I don't want to bag on chess.
00:13:51.780 It's another topic.
00:13:53.160 It's a very complex game.
00:13:54.920 It's more about playing
00:13:55.860 the people,
00:13:56.900 but that's another story.
00:13:58.340 The point is
00:13:59.100 that solved metas
00:14:00.380 are very bad for games
00:14:02.400 because they get
00:14:03.080 very stale very quickly.
00:14:04.580 And so what's happened
00:14:05.420 is that game developers
00:14:07.100 have gotten into this habit
00:14:08.680 of tweaking these things
00:14:09.900 on a pretty regular basis.
00:14:11.040 They shake up things.
00:14:12.780 They don't let one strategy
00:14:14.480 stay too powerful
00:14:15.500 for too long
00:14:16.320 because if they do,
00:14:17.520 then it only really matters
00:14:18.360 who's good at that one strategy
00:14:19.780 and there's a particular way
00:14:20.780 to play it
00:14:21.300 and people get bored
00:14:22.160 of just playing
00:14:23.140 that one strategy
00:14:24.040 to perfection.
00:14:25.520 And so once the metagame
00:14:27.180 is solved,
00:14:27.820 it's all about really
00:14:29.000 just getting very,
00:14:30.380 very good at that
00:14:31.180 one or two things
00:14:32.100 that actually work
00:14:33.060 and everybody else
00:14:34.220 who isn't capable
00:14:35.060 of doing that
00:14:35.920 ends up kind of falling
00:14:36.940 by the wayside.
00:14:38.180 I know what you're thinking.
00:14:39.320 Okay, Oren,
00:14:40.120 that was incredibly nerdy.
00:14:41.840 What am I supposed
00:14:42.860 to do with this information?
00:14:44.100 Why are we talking
00:14:45.080 about this
00:14:45.600 on a political show?
00:14:47.000 So the reason
00:14:47.480 we're talking about this
00:14:48.200 on a political show
00:14:49.160 is that mass democracy
00:14:51.280 has become
00:14:52.300 a solved metagame.
00:14:54.280 It's had many
00:14:55.200 different iterations.
00:14:56.440 We've seen it
00:14:57.160 play out over time.
00:14:59.220 There's been
00:14:59.560 different strategies
00:15:00.500 applied
00:15:01.500 and people
00:15:03.220 have found
00:15:03.540 various ways
00:15:04.180 of winning.
00:15:04.740 There's been
00:15:05.020 different styles
00:15:05.860 and ways
00:15:07.160 that you should
00:15:07.820 approach it
00:15:09.060 and things
00:15:09.500 that you could do.
00:15:10.880 But we've iterated
00:15:11.980 on this over
00:15:12.720 and over again,
00:15:13.760 particularly in the
00:15:14.560 American system.
00:15:15.460 There's a particular
00:15:16.900 way that this
00:15:19.320 plays out.
00:15:20.320 But you can apply
00:15:21.340 this, I think,
00:15:21.900 to democracies
00:15:23.020 in general.
00:15:24.820 And so what
00:15:25.700 this means is that
00:15:26.860 there's a set
00:15:28.520 of strategies
00:15:29.280 that wins.
00:15:31.040 and wins
00:15:31.820 consistently
00:15:32.620 over time
00:15:33.660 that is proven
00:15:34.580 to be the best
00:15:35.580 way to operate
00:15:36.560 inside a mass
00:15:38.060 democracy.
00:15:39.460 And because the
00:15:40.020 meta of mass
00:15:41.240 democracy has
00:15:42.220 been iterated
00:15:42.860 on so many
00:15:43.420 times and
00:15:44.180 because the
00:15:45.560 way that we
00:15:46.500 should do
00:15:46.800 these things
00:15:47.320 has largely
00:15:48.240 been played
00:15:48.940 out, we know
00:15:49.580 all the intricate
00:15:50.400 details, we know
00:15:51.680 the back and
00:15:52.180 forth, we know
00:15:53.020 what strategies
00:15:54.140 are viable and
00:15:54.940 which ones aren't,
00:15:56.080 we can predict
00:15:56.700 the outcomes
00:15:57.580 pretty regularly.
00:15:59.120 If you are
00:16:00.220 willing to
00:16:01.060 view things
00:16:02.380 in this way,
00:16:03.300 it's not
00:16:03.760 romantic.
00:16:04.900 Sorry, but
00:16:05.640 we're doing
00:16:06.340 Machiavellian
00:16:07.000 politics here.
00:16:09.000 It's not
00:16:09.640 romantic.
00:16:10.460 It draws a lot
00:16:11.200 of the mystery
00:16:11.780 out of the
00:16:12.260 democratic process,
00:16:13.180 but ultimately
00:16:13.980 it is a reliable
00:16:14.920 way to predict
00:16:15.600 results.
00:16:16.820 And when you
00:16:17.240 realize you're
00:16:17.800 in a solved
00:16:18.300 metagame, you
00:16:19.120 understand very
00:16:19.760 quickly that you
00:16:20.380 have two options
00:16:21.160 like I talked
00:16:21.700 about before.
00:16:22.920 You can get
00:16:23.200 very, very good
00:16:24.020 at a winning
00:16:24.400 strategy or you
00:16:26.140 can shake up
00:16:26.680 the metagame.
00:16:27.760 And those are
00:16:28.100 really your
00:16:28.480 only two options.
00:16:30.420 And if you keep
00:16:30.880 showing up, and
00:16:31.700 this happens all
00:16:32.260 the time, if you've
00:16:33.040 ever been in this
00:16:33.900 scenario, people
00:16:35.100 will show up to
00:16:35.840 like a magic
00:16:36.540 tournament or
00:16:37.400 they'll show up to
00:16:37.960 Warhammer tournament
00:16:38.960 and it'll be
00:16:39.780 someone who's
00:16:40.300 played very
00:16:40.740 casually.
00:16:41.640 And by all
00:16:42.020 means you should
00:16:42.460 play casually, but
00:16:43.320 if you show up to
00:16:44.180 a tournament where
00:16:45.140 people have gotten
00:16:45.880 very competitive and
00:16:46.940 they're trying very
00:16:47.600 hard, try hards
00:16:48.640 out there, they're
00:16:49.720 very serious about
00:16:50.540 what they're doing
00:16:51.120 and you show up
00:16:52.040 with a really
00:16:52.420 casual strategy.
00:16:53.440 You're just like,
00:16:53.940 well, I got a
00:16:54.520 bunch of cards
00:16:55.000 from my dad at
00:16:56.100 some point, or
00:16:57.040 you know, my
00:16:57.760 uncle had these
00:16:58.860 40k figures, or
00:16:59.860 this is just the
00:17:00.380 ones I liked and
00:17:01.140 I put them
00:17:01.500 together and I
00:17:02.580 want to just
00:17:03.000 play them here.
00:17:04.000 You can have
00:17:04.400 some fun, but
00:17:05.200 you're going to
00:17:05.620 lose and you're
00:17:06.440 going to lose
00:17:06.860 because ultimately
00:17:07.680 the people there
00:17:08.640 who are more
00:17:09.180 competitive have
00:17:10.220 already figured
00:17:10.900 out the best
00:17:11.480 strategies and no
00:17:12.800 matter how much
00:17:13.560 you like to play
00:17:14.240 your cool new
00:17:14.980 inventive casual
00:17:16.720 army or your new
00:17:18.440 deck or, you
00:17:19.220 know, your new
00:17:19.660 build in a video
00:17:20.360 game, if there's a
00:17:21.460 really well-defined
00:17:22.460 meta and the
00:17:23.140 meta is already
00:17:23.880 solved, then you're
00:17:25.740 very unlikely to
00:17:27.120 walk in and just
00:17:28.040 blow everybody away
00:17:29.160 with your creativity
00:17:30.060 and nobody likes to
00:17:30.840 hear that because we
00:17:31.640 all like to think
00:17:32.400 that, you know, the
00:17:33.340 underdog is going to
00:17:34.160 come in and win and
00:17:35.220 you know, you're going
00:17:35.720 to come out of
00:17:36.180 nowhere with your
00:17:37.140 originality and be
00:17:38.620 able to kind of blow
00:17:39.360 everybody away, but
00:17:40.700 that's not actually how
00:17:41.520 it works and if you
00:17:42.640 consistently go in
00:17:43.600 with that mindset,
00:17:44.380 you're going to be
00:17:45.780 defeated pretty often.
00:17:47.080 What happens to most
00:17:47.740 casual players when they
00:17:48.620 walk into an intense
00:17:49.640 competitive meta is
00:17:51.880 they quickly either
00:17:52.800 get on board the
00:17:54.240 meta and they learn
00:17:55.380 and they hone and
00:17:56.140 they change and they
00:17:57.120 start playing that way
00:17:58.100 or they just get
00:17:59.320 frustrated and they
00:18:00.020 fall apart and I
00:18:00.820 feel like this is
00:18:01.340 what happens to
00:18:02.340 conservatives, people
00:18:03.380 on the right when it
00:18:04.800 comes to politics.
00:18:05.880 They keep looking at
00:18:06.800 what the left is
00:18:07.380 doing and they keep
00:18:08.460 saying, oh, that's
00:18:09.820 terrible, those are
00:18:11.260 bad principles, it's
00:18:12.360 unsustainable, it's
00:18:13.540 corrupt, it's anti-
00:18:15.620 American, it's
00:18:16.600 communist, you know,
00:18:17.920 it's everything we
00:18:18.700 stand against as
00:18:19.780 Americans and doing
00:18:21.420 that is just a
00:18:22.560 terrible thing.
00:18:23.260 They try to like
00:18:23.740 morally lecture them
00:18:25.280 about the application
00:18:26.580 of their political
00:18:27.260 strategy and then they
00:18:28.920 do the thing that
00:18:29.500 they've been told is
00:18:30.660 like principled and
00:18:32.020 moral and we're
00:18:33.060 going to be the
00:18:33.680 individuals for small
00:18:35.040 government and no
00:18:36.000 spending and, you
00:18:37.420 know, we're going to
00:18:37.920 here's how we're just
00:18:39.300 going to leave you
00:18:39.760 alone and, you
00:18:40.800 know, these kind of
00:18:41.280 things and they keep
00:18:43.140 losing over and over
00:18:45.020 again and they're
00:18:46.200 very confused by
00:18:46.980 this.
00:18:47.280 They're like, how
00:18:47.640 could I lose?
00:18:48.440 I'm doing all the
00:18:49.160 things right, I've
00:18:49.860 got my principles,
00:18:53.120 you know, I've got
00:18:53.540 my cute casual
00:18:54.840 strategy that I'm
00:18:55.740 bringing to this
00:18:56.380 intense metagame and
00:18:58.020 I just don't
00:18:58.440 understand, like, why
00:18:59.280 do I keep losing
00:19:00.160 over and over again?
00:19:01.880 This even seems to
00:19:02.820 stretch all the way
00:19:04.100 up to Republican
00:19:05.020 politicians.
00:19:06.400 You know, a lot of
00:19:06.860 people think that all
00:19:07.520 of these guys are
00:19:08.160 completely, you know,
00:19:09.860 just they have these
00:19:11.460 machinations and
00:19:12.700 they're these
00:19:13.440 masterminds and
00:19:14.380 every one of these
00:19:14.940 Republican politicians
00:19:15.920 is bought and
00:19:17.160 paid for, which
00:19:17.740 they are, but, you
00:19:18.500 know, that they're
00:19:19.520 maniacal and it's
00:19:20.940 all just motivated by
00:19:23.040 their avarice, but I
00:19:24.880 think ultimately a lot
00:19:25.680 of these people believe
00:19:26.460 what they're saying.
00:19:27.460 I think, you know,
00:19:28.060 I've talked to a lot
00:19:29.020 of people in elite
00:19:29.760 positions at this
00:19:30.580 point and I'm
00:19:31.680 surprised every time
00:19:32.760 that I come away with
00:19:33.560 like, oh no, they
00:19:34.460 really do believe in a
00:19:35.400 lot of this stuff.
00:19:36.600 It's not a lot of
00:19:37.440 Wizard of Oz man
00:19:38.500 behind the, you know,
00:19:39.760 the curtain types
00:19:40.460 stuff.
00:19:41.200 They're not really
00:19:42.160 being puppeted by
00:19:43.500 like super clever
00:19:44.220 forces.
00:19:45.080 They just don't
00:19:45.900 understand that they
00:19:47.400 really have bought in
00:19:48.240 to the losing strategy
00:19:49.740 that in the solved
00:19:51.240 meta of mass
00:19:52.140 democracy, they have
00:19:53.140 really bought into
00:19:54.380 the losing way of
00:19:55.320 doing things.
00:19:56.480 And that's a huge
00:19:57.360 problem because if
00:19:58.620 you don't recognize
00:19:59.460 that the strategy
00:20:01.360 you're involved in is
00:20:02.460 a guaranteed loser
00:20:03.540 and you keep walking
00:20:05.100 in with the hopes of
00:20:05.920 half the country on
00:20:06.740 your back and, you
00:20:07.700 know, the money and
00:20:08.200 support of them,
00:20:09.200 then you're going to
00:20:09.940 end up in the
00:20:10.340 situation we're in
00:20:11.140 now.
00:20:11.480 And so I want to
00:20:12.920 go ahead and
00:20:13.320 explain why the
00:20:15.580 Republican strategy,
00:20:16.960 why the conservative
00:20:17.900 strategy is kind of a
00:20:19.380 losing strategy in the
00:20:20.920 metagame of mass
00:20:21.840 democracy.
00:20:23.280 So the problem with
00:20:24.280 democracy, and this is
00:20:25.460 not just a problem with
00:20:26.160 American democracy,
00:20:27.080 this is a problem, and
00:20:28.200 sorry guys, you're
00:20:29.400 subject to a
00:20:30.000 democracy.
00:20:30.620 Ah, it's a
00:20:31.140 constitutional republic.
00:20:32.220 Yeah, I know, I
00:20:32.820 know, but you're
00:20:34.120 ruled by a democracy.
00:20:35.760 You're ruled by an
00:20:36.380 oligarchy that
00:20:37.040 manipulates your
00:20:37.820 democracy, but the
00:20:38.940 force that you believe
00:20:40.220 in is actually
00:20:40.780 democratic, sorry.
00:20:42.840 So what happens is in
00:20:45.240 every democracy, there's
00:20:46.180 always this flaw.
00:20:47.460 There's a dynamic
00:20:48.240 called high and low
00:20:49.480 versus middle, if
00:20:50.260 you've ever listened
00:20:50.840 to my channel
00:20:51.320 before, you're
00:20:52.540 familiar with this,
00:20:53.260 but I'll explain it
00:20:53.840 again just in case,
00:20:54.740 you know, a lot of
00:20:55.160 newcomers, people who
00:20:56.200 might have forgotten
00:20:56.760 are not familiar.
00:20:58.100 High and low versus
00:20:58.680 middle is a dynamic
00:20:59.560 that is explained by
00:21:00.480 Bertrand de Juvedal.
00:21:02.040 And in his book on
00:21:03.580 power, which you
00:21:04.180 should absolutely read
00:21:04.940 because he explains the
00:21:05.780 metaphysics of power
00:21:06.800 that are undeniable
00:21:08.180 phenomena that I think
00:21:09.300 it's hard to pretend
00:21:10.780 are not real.
00:21:12.020 And what he explains
00:21:13.300 is that ultimately
00:21:14.140 there's always an
00:21:15.520 incentive for the
00:21:17.480 high, the top to
00:21:19.260 team up with the
00:21:20.220 low, the bottom
00:21:21.320 versus the middle,
00:21:22.700 because the only
00:21:24.160 thing that restricts
00:21:25.580 a ruling class and
00:21:27.220 a ruling elite from
00:21:28.880 wielding total power
00:21:30.400 is the organic
00:21:32.400 institutions that are
00:21:33.540 built into kind of
00:21:34.480 the competing middle
00:21:35.960 structure of any
00:21:37.700 given civilization.
00:21:39.520 It's the fact that
00:21:40.460 you own your own
00:21:41.040 property and that
00:21:42.620 you can do your own
00:21:43.600 things and you're not
00:21:44.600 dependent on the
00:21:45.160 central government,
00:21:45.820 but you actually have
00:21:46.840 loyalty to like
00:21:48.320 regional leaders and
00:21:49.480 your church and your
00:21:50.300 family.
00:21:50.920 These are the only
00:21:51.600 things that actually
00:21:52.180 restrict the power
00:21:54.000 of the people at the
00:21:54.620 top.
00:21:55.100 And so if you're
00:21:56.220 someone at the top
00:21:57.000 and you don't like
00:21:57.920 that and you don't
00:21:58.920 really care that much
00:21:59.540 about your country,
00:22:00.100 you're really just
00:22:00.660 interested in power,
00:22:01.640 then rather than
00:22:03.460 trying to negotiate
00:22:04.980 with the people in
00:22:05.920 the middle and,
00:22:07.120 you know, go ahead
00:22:07.780 and figure out how
00:22:08.700 to share power and
00:22:09.900 what's good for them,
00:22:11.200 all that stuff that
00:22:11.820 you're supposed to do,
00:22:12.540 all the stuff that
00:22:13.100 the constitution is
00:22:14.420 predicated on, the
00:22:15.540 American civic religion
00:22:17.260 is predicated on.
00:22:18.260 Instead of doing that,
00:22:19.620 what you do is you
00:22:21.020 just appeal to the
00:22:22.940 low class because the
00:22:24.880 low class don't have
00:22:26.160 anything.
00:22:26.660 They don't have
00:22:27.340 property.
00:22:28.240 They aren't plugged
00:22:28.980 into the institutions.
00:22:30.100 sorry, in a lot of
00:22:34.120 ways, the reason that
00:22:34.880 they are low class is
00:22:36.600 because they don't have
00:22:37.340 access to these things
00:22:38.260 or they didn't build
00:22:38.980 these things.
00:22:39.580 They didn't invest in
00:22:40.440 them.
00:22:41.020 And so they have
00:22:43.280 nothing to gain from
00:22:44.460 the continuation of the
00:22:45.540 current order.
00:22:46.240 And they would rather
00:22:47.240 see you dismantle that
00:22:48.840 order and give them
00:22:49.720 stuff.
00:22:51.320 And, you know,
00:22:52.080 Bertrand Juvenile is far
00:22:52.960 from the only one to
00:22:53.580 recognize this pattern.
00:22:54.700 Of course, you know,
00:22:56.000 Alexis Potocqueville
00:22:57.340 in Democracy in
00:22:58.100 America talks about as
00:22:59.140 soon as
00:23:00.100 the people figure out
00:23:00.840 that they can vote
00:23:01.320 themselves in money.
00:23:02.700 The democracy is over.
00:23:04.400 So this has been, you
00:23:05.200 know, Plato and
00:23:06.100 Aristotle all recognize
00:23:07.380 this aspect of
00:23:08.300 democracy.
00:23:08.760 So this is not,
00:23:09.760 nothing new is under
00:23:10.460 the sun here.
00:23:11.060 This has always been
00:23:11.900 the fatal flaw of
00:23:13.280 democracy, which is
00:23:14.360 why you're not
00:23:14.780 supposed to do
00:23:15.540 mass democracy.
00:23:16.800 It's why you're not
00:23:17.520 supposed to give the
00:23:18.200 franchise to everybody.
00:23:19.520 That's not why you're
00:23:19.960 not, why you're not
00:23:20.600 supposed to let the
00:23:21.200 democracy pick your
00:23:22.440 senators and every other
00:23:23.580 aspect of your society.
00:23:25.040 You're actually supposed
00:23:25.900 to limit it to a very
00:23:26.780 small, narrow band if you
00:23:28.300 allow it to happen at
00:23:29.260 all.
00:23:29.600 But the problem is
00:23:30.860 that there's no
00:23:31.360 incentive for leaders to
00:23:32.600 obey the Constitution and
00:23:33.980 hold to that narrow band
00:23:35.260 of democracy.
00:23:36.080 They would always rather
00:23:37.320 expand out.
00:23:38.340 So what do they do?
00:23:39.420 Well, they expand the
00:23:40.200 franchise.
00:23:41.000 This happened in the
00:23:41.900 Roman Empire.
00:23:42.660 It happened in the
00:23:43.940 United States.
00:23:44.600 You start expanding it.
00:23:46.000 You give it to one
00:23:46.680 group.
00:23:47.040 You give it to another.
00:23:48.160 You always promise them
00:23:49.100 the moon.
00:23:49.600 When you do that, you
00:23:50.520 tell them that, you know,
00:23:51.920 once they have a
00:23:52.640 franchise, they'll get the
00:23:53.720 benefits that the other
00:23:54.580 people have.
00:23:55.220 And then you start
00:23:56.140 getting those people to
00:23:57.200 vote you powers so you
00:23:58.400 can start confiscating the
00:24:00.080 things from the middle and
00:24:01.360 you can pass it out to the
00:24:02.620 periphery.
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00:24:34.020 And once you've gone
00:24:35.060 through all the groups
00:24:35.780 inside your country and
00:24:37.200 you've expanded the
00:24:38.040 franchise to them, but
00:24:39.480 you still need to
00:24:40.280 disenfranchise the people
00:24:41.380 in the middle, you can
00:24:42.740 start bringing people in.
00:24:43.760 So you bring in
00:24:44.320 foreigners, you bring in
00:24:46.100 immigrants, you promise
00:24:47.440 them the moon.
00:24:48.560 They obviously aren't
00:24:49.840 connected to any of your
00:24:50.960 institutions because
00:24:51.860 they're literally from a
00:24:53.420 foreign country, so
00:24:54.600 they don't have, you
00:24:55.620 know, the families here,
00:24:56.940 they don't have the
00:24:57.380 communities here, they
00:24:58.120 don't have the churches
00:24:58.720 here, they don't have
00:24:59.700 the established, you
00:25:01.440 know, cultural forces
00:25:02.240 that would push back
00:25:03.100 against the people at
00:25:03.980 the top, and you keep
00:25:05.380 raiding the treasury, you
00:25:06.680 keep pulling the money
00:25:07.680 out from the middle
00:25:08.400 class, you keep squeezing
00:25:09.540 the kulaks so that you
00:25:11.380 can hand out this stuff
00:25:12.640 to the people that you're
00:25:13.480 bringing in.
00:25:14.660 Rome did this by, like,
00:25:15.720 conquering people and
00:25:16.960 then adding them in as,
00:25:18.140 you know, citizens.
00:25:19.460 You can do it your own
00:25:20.820 way.
00:25:21.060 The United States has
00:25:21.740 basically done this with
00:25:22.720 its, you know, with its
00:25:24.680 conquer, invade the world,
00:25:25.980 invite the world strategy.
00:25:27.780 However you justify this
00:25:29.580 system, it always ends up
00:25:31.100 the same.
00:25:31.840 The high and the low
00:25:32.980 coordinate to strip out
00:25:34.660 everything that the
00:25:35.340 middle has, and this is
00:25:36.980 what creates the solved
00:25:38.780 metagame of mass
00:25:39.880 democracy.
00:25:40.720 The incentive structure
00:25:41.580 for mass democracy is
00:25:42.560 always the same.
00:25:44.000 Expand the franchise,
00:25:45.140 expand the franchise,
00:25:46.180 expand the franchise,
00:25:47.040 dismantle the middle
00:25:48.200 class, dismantle the
00:25:49.120 middle class, dismantle
00:25:50.000 the middle class,
00:25:51.000 distribute their wealth
00:25:52.320 to the periphery,
00:25:53.640 distribute it, distribute
00:25:54.520 it over and over again.
00:25:56.500 And the fact that the
00:25:57.580 Democratic Party is built
00:25:58.760 on this formula, right,
00:26:00.020 you should be able to
00:26:00.660 recognize everything I'm
00:26:01.680 talking about, right?
00:26:02.560 What is the Democratic
00:26:03.180 for?
00:26:03.840 Open board, Democratic
00:26:04.860 Party for?
00:26:05.640 Open borders.
00:26:06.440 What is the Democratic
00:26:07.000 Party for?
00:26:08.320 Redistribution of wealth,
00:26:09.580 mainly by confiscating it
00:26:10.720 from white middle class
00:26:11.620 voters into the hands
00:26:13.260 of minority voters,
00:26:15.380 giving them certain rights,
00:26:16.480 making sure that these
00:26:17.340 people who have been
00:26:18.780 convinced that the
00:26:19.700 Democratic Party is their
00:26:20.720 only hope and their only
00:26:21.680 protection become entirely
00:26:23.000 dependent on them and,
00:26:24.460 you know, demonize the
00:26:25.740 middle class and the
00:26:26.520 middle Americans, the
00:26:27.320 heritage Americans.
00:26:28.980 These, this is the
00:26:30.440 process, right?
00:26:31.140 This is the entire
00:26:31.760 Democratic formula.
00:26:32.960 I just did a piece on
00:26:33.720 this last week.
00:26:34.360 Like, what binds the
00:26:35.280 Democratic coalition
00:26:36.280 together?
00:26:36.740 Is it Marxist rhetoric?
00:26:38.280 Well, kind of, but really
00:26:39.640 that Marxist rhetoric is
00:26:40.700 just a way for them to
00:26:41.600 hate a certain class
00:26:42.280 of people and police
00:26:43.000 them.
00:26:43.860 And so this dynamic is,
00:26:45.760 yeah, I guess it's
00:26:46.540 Marxist, but it's
00:26:47.440 wider than that.
00:26:48.180 It's more than that.
00:26:49.080 It's a, it's a, it's a
00:26:50.720 dynamic that plays itself
00:26:52.220 out in mass democracy
00:26:53.340 over and over and over
00:26:54.460 and over again.
00:26:55.160 And that's why a lot of
00:26:56.320 people have problems
00:26:57.280 grasping this.
00:26:58.320 That's why like this
00:26:59.340 Marxist thing is the
00:27:00.400 natural end of liberal
00:27:01.780 democracies because they
00:27:03.420 will always devolve
00:27:04.540 because it's a solved
00:27:05.560 metagame.
00:27:06.180 There's always a correct
00:27:07.380 way to play this game
00:27:08.400 to get power.
00:27:09.200 And it's all the things
00:27:10.280 the Democrats are allowed
00:27:11.200 to do, right?
00:27:12.300 You notice that all of the
00:27:13.480 things that actually win
00:27:14.740 in a democracy are the
00:27:16.340 things that only the
00:27:17.160 left is allowed to do.
00:27:18.440 So, you know, high
00:27:19.700 taxes, confiscation of
00:27:21.540 property, division of
00:27:23.500 people through the, you
00:27:24.580 know, through specific
00:27:25.840 ethnic carve outs, you
00:27:28.080 know, promising these
00:27:29.200 things to the communities
00:27:30.120 after, you know,
00:27:31.280 gleaning them from those
00:27:32.680 in the middle who are
00:27:33.320 more established.
00:27:34.340 These are all things that
00:27:35.940 are only the left is
00:27:37.120 allowed to do.
00:27:37.680 The right is not allowed
00:27:38.400 to do these things.
00:27:39.460 They're not allowed to
00:27:40.560 push for the interests of
00:27:41.480 their voting base.
00:27:42.340 They're not allowed to
00:27:43.560 confiscate the wealth of
00:27:44.600 other groups and give it
00:27:45.480 to their people.
00:27:46.300 They're not allowed to
00:27:47.820 explicitly advocate for
00:27:49.800 any of this stuff, right?
00:27:51.280 So the right is clinging
00:27:52.300 to their principles and
00:27:54.440 it turns out all their
00:27:55.160 principles are losing
00:27:56.920 strategies in mass
00:27:57.960 democracy.
00:27:59.020 Now, I don't want to say
00:28:00.220 that like, oh, well,
00:28:01.120 that just means that the
00:28:02.300 left is morally vindicated.
00:28:04.340 Like they're not like
00:28:05.120 obviously the things that
00:28:06.700 they're doing are suicidal
00:28:08.200 for your society.
00:28:09.680 It's only you can only do
00:28:10.560 this for so long.
00:28:11.540 And this is why democracies
00:28:13.000 always waste themselves,
00:28:14.720 which is literally just
00:28:15.540 language I'm borrowing
00:28:16.720 from the founding fathers.
00:28:18.920 Democracies always waste
00:28:20.400 themselves because they
00:28:21.360 always follow this pattern.
00:28:23.480 Mass democracy is a solved
00:28:24.780 meta, especially in our
00:28:26.360 current scenario where mass
00:28:27.960 propaganda and the
00:28:29.720 control of mass institutions
00:28:31.060 is more essential than it's
00:28:34.080 ever been throughout history.
00:28:35.200 And it allows for a much
00:28:36.960 more efficient transfer of
00:28:38.760 wealth and a much more
00:28:39.960 powerful, uniformed
00:28:41.620 application of propaganda
00:28:43.660 and managerial technique.
00:28:45.780 And so what we end up is
00:28:46.820 this scenario where there's
00:28:48.040 this giant leviathan.
00:28:49.740 The left knows how to hold
00:28:51.080 on to it in perpetuity,
00:28:52.800 no matter what the whims of
00:28:54.160 democracy might say.
00:28:55.540 And they just use mass
00:28:56.780 democracy as a weapon
00:28:57.940 wielded to deconstruct and
00:28:59.560 destroy what's left of the
00:29:00.980 American middle class
00:29:02.040 and heritage America so that
00:29:03.780 they can benefit themselves at
00:29:05.420 the top and pay at their
00:29:07.000 client classes at the bottom.
00:29:08.340 Again, suicidal strategy.
00:29:09.760 It has to stop.
00:29:10.600 We're already seeing the
00:29:11.740 limits of this strategy,
00:29:13.320 but they will keep doing it
00:29:15.200 until they destroy the
00:29:15.960 country.
00:29:16.280 They're not going to stop.
00:29:17.260 They're not going to be like,
00:29:18.040 well, I guess we realize that
00:29:19.820 at the end of the day, this
00:29:20.760 is a bad plan.
00:29:21.940 No, they're like they have
00:29:23.520 the time preference of a
00:29:25.160 team of a fly.
00:29:26.240 OK, they have bought into the
00:29:28.400 zombie apocalypse.
00:29:29.860 The good news is that, you
00:29:31.240 know, this all has to come
00:29:32.800 down.
00:29:33.320 The bad news is that when it
00:29:34.980 comes down, the solution is
00:29:36.420 the zombie apocalypse.
00:29:37.680 Right.
00:29:38.300 These rabid, hateful,
00:29:40.780 parasitic classes that have
00:29:42.840 been fed by the Democratic
00:29:45.520 Party will eventually just
00:29:46.980 break loose and tear
00:29:48.160 everything apart as the
00:29:49.780 ability of the Democrats to
00:29:50.960 deliver on their promises
00:29:51.960 kind of subsides.
00:29:53.600 So this is not an ideal way
00:29:56.000 for this problem to resolve
00:29:57.820 itself.
00:29:59.120 And so what the right needs to
00:30:00.380 understand is a few things.
00:30:01.700 One, they need to figure out
00:30:04.040 how they can apply winning
00:30:05.140 strategies.
00:30:06.420 Now, the bad news is that
00:30:07.580 ultimately they can't buy in
00:30:09.180 entirely to the leftist
00:30:10.720 archetype because you can't
00:30:13.340 just steal a bunch of money
00:30:14.360 from people that don't have
00:30:15.860 it.
00:30:16.100 You don't have the option of
00:30:17.380 having a bunch of heritage
00:30:18.720 Americans, a bunch of
00:30:20.060 Kulaks with their farmland and
00:30:22.240 their jet ski dealerships
00:30:23.340 sitting around that you can
00:30:24.560 just steal and give out to
00:30:25.720 all your Republican
00:30:26.380 constituents.
00:30:27.920 So the long term effects of
00:30:29.900 this don't work.
00:30:30.680 However, you do need to
00:30:31.680 realize some political
00:30:33.000 realities.
00:30:34.340 The Treasury is being looted
00:30:35.720 either way, right?
00:30:37.060 The left is going to steal
00:30:38.180 all the money.
00:30:38.960 They're going to inflate the
00:30:39.680 dollar to the millionth
00:30:40.760 degree.
00:30:41.020 And to be fear, be really
00:30:42.520 fair when the Republicans
00:30:43.900 are in power, they don't
00:30:45.460 really stop this.
00:30:46.500 In many ways, they accelerate
00:30:47.560 it or best they put a little
00:30:49.180 bit of a brake on it.
00:30:50.260 But they are all going the
00:30:51.340 same direction.
00:30:52.360 So Republicans are going to
00:30:53.340 inflate your dollar and steal
00:30:54.520 your money.
00:30:55.020 Democrats are going to
00:30:55.680 inflate your dollar and steal
00:30:56.660 your money.
00:30:57.300 This is going to happen.
00:30:58.740 And so the only question is
00:30:59.860 who's going to benefit?
00:31:01.400 And I know that's not great.
00:31:02.580 Like, I understand the
00:31:03.840 problem.
00:31:04.240 I'm not I'm not telling you
00:31:05.540 this because this is fun or
00:31:06.700 popular, but it's just true.
00:31:09.040 And so we should probably
00:31:09.700 recognize the facts of this,
00:31:11.680 that this is going to
00:31:14.020 continue.
00:31:14.640 And so someone's going to
00:31:15.920 benefit.
00:31:16.260 And it might as well be you.
00:31:17.500 It might as well be your
00:31:18.620 group.
00:31:18.940 It might as well be people who
00:31:20.320 align with your values and
00:31:22.520 care about, you know, your
00:31:24.480 country and, you know, could
00:31:25.820 at least benefit in the
00:31:26.740 meantime from some of these
00:31:27.920 policies.
00:31:29.280 And so that's why I've
00:31:30.160 talked about things like
00:31:31.120 taxing the endowments of the
00:31:32.540 universities and redirecting
00:31:33.980 those funds to free people
00:31:35.700 from the necessity of college
00:31:37.540 educations, because ultimately
00:31:39.440 that, you know, does does
00:31:41.300 what we'd like to do, which is
00:31:43.360 tax our enemies, take their
00:31:44.420 money and distribute it to
00:31:46.460 our people who will benefit
00:31:47.900 people who would be benefited
00:31:49.200 from freeing themselves from
00:31:50.840 the liberal, you know, the
00:31:52.880 seminaries that are colleges.
00:31:55.820 And that's the kind of game
00:31:57.180 plan that we want to have.
00:31:58.260 The one where we we can use
00:32:00.140 this dynamic to ourselves
00:32:01.420 again, it's not perfect.
00:32:02.820 We can't do exactly what the
00:32:03.980 left do because we don't
00:32:04.960 have this infinite or near
00:32:07.560 infinite kind of middle
00:32:09.180 class to be parasitic from.
00:32:12.620 You know, the left is
00:32:13.360 killing that now.
00:32:14.280 So they're losing it.
00:32:15.220 It's obviously not infinite.
00:32:16.720 But, you know, they have this
00:32:18.460 vast reserve of wealth and
00:32:19.980 social capital and credit that
00:32:21.280 they were strip mining to kind
00:32:22.860 of do what they're doing.
00:32:23.860 And that's running.
00:32:24.920 It's dying.
00:32:25.340 And we can't do that.
00:32:26.380 But we can recognize that the
00:32:27.660 process is ongoing and we can
00:32:29.700 find ways where we can
00:32:31.320 actually take advantage of it.
00:32:32.660 If we just sit around and keep
00:32:33.760 pretending like, well, guys,
00:32:35.320 it's all tax cuts and small
00:32:37.440 government and capitalism
00:32:39.180 and, you know, freedom.
00:32:40.680 And that's what it's all about.
00:32:41.940 If we just keep, you know,
00:32:43.220 recycling those talking points
00:32:44.680 and that losing strategy and
00:32:46.360 keep going like, oh, the left
00:32:47.820 there, the wacky leftists are
00:32:49.260 at it again.
00:32:50.000 If we are stuck in that mode
00:32:51.480 forever, we're just going to
00:32:52.520 lose.
00:32:52.880 We're going to get dominated.
00:32:54.000 And we should because we're
00:32:55.160 denying the truth of the
00:32:56.540 solved metagame that we're in.
00:32:58.140 The other option is shaking up
00:32:59.700 the metagame, right?
00:33:00.340 You can get good at what the
00:33:01.980 that works in the meta.
00:33:03.460 And that's one thing we should
00:33:04.520 do.
00:33:04.820 We should start getting good at
00:33:06.280 the things that work, but
00:33:07.220 recognize that ultimately those
00:33:08.440 things are doomed.
00:33:09.460 The thing we have now, the
00:33:10.840 solved meta we have now is
00:33:12.020 disastrous.
00:33:13.040 And so we have to fix it as
00:33:14.860 well.
00:33:15.220 It's not just enough to get good
00:33:16.680 at it because, A, we can't
00:33:18.240 play the same game left plays
00:33:19.440 forever and B, no one can play
00:33:21.060 the game the left is playing
00:33:21.940 forever because it's
00:33:22.920 self-destructive.
00:33:24.000 So the other thing we need to
00:33:25.300 do is figure out how to mix up
00:33:26.560 the meta.
00:33:27.460 And the way to start doing
00:33:28.820 that is complicated.
00:33:31.020 It's difficult.
00:33:31.880 I don't have all the solutions
00:33:33.080 to that problem, but it does
00:33:35.340 start, I think, with
00:33:36.220 recognizing the fact that we
00:33:38.400 need to get away from this
00:33:39.860 idea of mass nationwide
00:33:42.020 change.
00:33:42.900 The idea that we're just going
00:33:44.280 to elect Donald Trump and he's
00:33:45.860 going to sweep in and destroy
00:33:47.240 the swamp of the deep state and
00:33:48.760 that's going to solve
00:33:50.060 everything.
00:33:50.420 I hope all that happens, man.
00:33:51.940 I hope Donald Trump wins and
00:33:53.560 he shatters the FBI and
00:33:55.700 throws them to the floor
00:33:56.640 winds.
00:33:56.980 But let's be honest, he was
00:33:57.860 tweeting or whatever, true
00:33:59.400 thing, whatever he does on his
00:34:00.560 platform.
00:34:01.300 He was talking last week about
00:34:02.360 how he's going to build him a
00:34:03.220 new building in Washington, D.C.
00:34:04.860 So I'm unfortunately a little
00:34:06.820 skeptical about the idea that
00:34:08.000 Trump has learned the lessons
00:34:09.020 he needs to learn.
00:34:10.260 But I hope he does.
00:34:10.960 I hope he does that stuff.
00:34:11.920 I'm rooting for him.
00:34:12.820 If anybody wants to get me in
00:34:14.340 touch with his team to scream
00:34:15.460 at them, I'm more than happy to
00:34:16.540 do that.
00:34:16.920 But, you know, ultimately, I
00:34:19.260 don't think that he understands
00:34:20.620 this problem.
00:34:21.880 And that means we need to have
00:34:23.260 an understanding of how we can
00:34:24.500 shake things up.
00:34:25.520 And mainly that means playing a
00:34:26.960 different game.
00:34:27.600 It means unhooking ourselves from
00:34:29.500 dependency on the system as we
00:34:31.380 see it.
00:34:32.200 And that doesn't mean like, you
00:34:33.300 know, running away into the
00:34:34.340 woods and living off of, you
00:34:35.920 know, bark from trees or
00:34:37.480 whatever.
00:34:37.880 But it means getting in a
00:34:39.200 scenario where you control your
00:34:41.000 school board, you control your
00:34:42.320 county, you control the county
00:34:43.780 sheriff.
00:34:44.200 Hopefully, maybe even you have
00:34:46.040 a governor that's super based
00:34:47.520 and willing to say no to the
00:34:48.740 federal government.
00:34:49.520 You start figuring out how to
00:34:50.980 detach yourself from the
00:34:53.440 necessity of mainstream
00:34:55.260 employment, platforming,
00:34:57.940 operating inside the system's
00:35:00.760 financial institutions.
00:35:01.980 You find a way to remove
00:35:03.300 yourself from a system that is
00:35:04.520 entirely dependent on the
00:35:05.740 whims of mass democracy.
00:35:07.100 Because if you keep playing
00:35:07.940 that game, you're going to
00:35:08.980 lose.
00:35:09.380 Like the game is solved.
00:35:10.680 The meta is solved.
00:35:11.740 You can't be better at the
00:35:13.020 meta than the Democrats.
00:35:13.840 You can play some of those
00:35:14.960 strategies better.
00:35:15.680 You should, but you can't
00:35:17.120 ultimately be better at them
00:35:18.260 than that.
00:35:18.660 So you better get a new
00:35:19.600 meta game.
00:35:20.220 Like you better switch up the
00:35:21.360 strategies because don't like
00:35:23.300 there's just never going to be
00:35:24.740 any victory here.
00:35:25.860 And so I think it's really
00:35:26.980 critical that we go ahead and
00:35:28.040 realize, you know, how much
00:35:30.140 we have to.
00:35:31.460 We have to understand the
00:35:33.020 meta game we're in, how the
00:35:35.560 dynamic inside of it has
00:35:36.840 already been solved and how our
00:35:38.920 only options are really to go
00:35:40.260 ahead and play those
00:35:41.820 strategies better when we can
00:35:43.440 and find alternative games
00:35:44.820 to play when we can.
00:35:47.020 Because if we keep doing what
00:35:47.980 we're doing now, we're only
00:35:48.900 going to get more frustrated.
00:35:50.480 We're just going to keep
00:35:51.320 losing.
00:35:52.320 And ultimately, you just kind of
00:35:53.960 get this learned helplessness.
00:35:55.660 That's no good for anybody.
00:35:57.480 I also wanted to, before we go,
00:35:59.560 tell you a little bit about
00:36:01.200 another exciting development in
00:36:03.160 democracy.
00:36:04.280 Talk about a solved metagame.
00:36:05.900 Man, I plan this talk in advance
00:36:08.180 and then sometimes the news
00:36:09.900 just gives you the gift of a
00:36:11.640 perfect illustration of exactly
00:36:13.080 what you're talking about.
00:36:14.120 So let me bring that up for you
00:36:16.400 real quick.
00:36:17.560 So this is Tony Blinken.
00:36:20.340 And Tony Blinken is, of course,
00:36:23.460 your he is, of course, your
00:36:25.760 secretary of state.
00:36:27.720 And Tony Blinken is many people
00:36:29.980 believe he's like the shadow
00:36:31.140 president.
00:36:31.840 He's like the force, the main
00:36:33.960 force behind the Joe Biden
00:36:36.300 White House, which is obviously
00:36:37.680 not run by Joe Biden, who can't
00:36:39.340 find where he put his shoes
00:36:41.300 down this morning.
00:36:43.000 And he's here talking about
00:36:45.160 what's going to happen in
00:36:46.180 Ukraine.
00:36:46.660 Let me play this real quick.
00:36:48.020 Working with the government and
00:36:49.120 civil society groups to shore up
00:36:51.200 Ukraine's election
00:36:52.040 infrastructure.
00:36:53.080 That way, as soon as Ukrainians
00:36:55.380 agree, the conditions allow all
00:36:57.640 Ukrainians, all Ukrainians,
00:37:00.820 including those displaced by
00:37:01.980 Russia's aggression, can exercise
00:37:03.960 their right to vote.
00:37:04.940 people in Ukraine and around the
00:37:07.160 world can have confidence that
00:37:09.020 the voting process is free, fair,
00:37:13.080 secure.
00:37:14.180 All right.
00:37:14.880 So good news.
00:37:15.760 Tony Blinken has canceled
00:37:18.220 democracy for an indefinite period
00:37:21.540 in the name of democracy.
00:37:23.280 I mean, this is amazing.
00:37:27.120 We've been told that we have to go
00:37:28.760 to war with Vladimir Putin.
00:37:29.800 We have to infinitely pile money,
00:37:32.580 taxpayer money, hundreds of billions
00:37:34.160 of dollars into Ukraine because we
00:37:37.400 have to defend democracy.
00:37:38.500 But to really clear, we're not going
00:37:40.380 to hold elections.
00:37:41.280 We're done holding elections in
00:37:43.640 Ukraine.
00:37:44.980 And the best part is it's just
00:37:47.720 indefinitely.
00:37:48.380 Right.
00:37:48.540 He says until every Ukrainian can
00:37:51.320 vote.
00:37:51.700 Well, I mean, you've already killed
00:37:53.180 off like the majority of the male
00:37:55.100 population.
00:37:56.160 Right.
00:37:56.260 Also, realistically, any end to the
00:38:00.320 Ukraine conflict is probably going
00:38:02.240 to end with Russia owning parts of
00:38:05.420 Ukraine.
00:38:06.000 They're going to end up taking back
00:38:07.440 some of those key parts that are
00:38:09.260 ethnically Russian.
00:38:10.180 That's that's probably going to happen.
00:38:12.220 So when he says until every Ukrainian
00:38:13.960 could vote, it's very easy to understand
00:38:15.720 this as we will never vote again.
00:38:18.380 Ukrainians will never vote again.
00:38:19.860 And you notice that he's transferred the
00:38:22.300 responsibility in his very managerial
00:38:24.620 elite way over to all these voting
00:38:27.340 organizations, the international
00:38:28.940 community, blah, blah, blah, which is
00:38:31.440 another way of saying the globalist
00:38:32.880 American empire is going to decide
00:38:34.520 when we will have and if we will have
00:38:36.380 elections in Ukraine, which really
00:38:38.260 lets you know that Ukraine is entirely
00:38:40.140 a vassal state in case you didn't know.
00:38:42.820 And it's entirely just a tool of the
00:38:45.320 ruling elites in the United States.
00:38:46.780 It's not a real country to them.
00:38:48.780 It's just a way to to harm Russia, to
00:38:51.600 get a geopolitical advantage, to enrich
00:38:53.940 themselves, to keep a perpetual war
00:38:55.900 going.
00:38:57.220 And so we will decide when and if there
00:39:00.520 will ever be an election again in
00:39:03.060 Ukraine.
00:39:03.820 We will dictate we will dictate that.
00:39:06.720 And it's just a beautiful reminder that
00:39:09.800 democracy is really whatever these people
00:39:11.860 say.
00:39:12.620 Right.
00:39:12.960 When they say we're defending our
00:39:14.860 democracy, then what they really mean is
00:39:17.180 we're just defending our oligarchy.
00:39:18.480 And we have to go to international wars
00:39:21.520 for democracy means actually we're just
00:39:24.520 going to make sure that we install our
00:39:26.000 favorite dictator and dress him up with
00:39:29.560 an election somewhere.
00:39:30.520 If we even bother to hold the election, we
00:39:32.200 probably we might just suspend democracy
00:39:34.460 and definitely that to be fair, they're in
00:39:35.900 the middle of war.
00:39:36.660 I get it like you don't vote in the middle
00:39:38.060 of a war.
00:39:38.620 A lot of times I understand that that's
00:39:41.000 that that's something that is often the
00:39:43.800 case, but it's very funny that, you
00:39:45.820 know, that that's the entire point of
00:39:47.620 the conflict.
00:39:48.920 It's the entire, you know, Casa spell of
00:39:51.680 like why we should be there and why it's
00:39:53.940 worth our money and why we should be
00:39:55.040 supporting it.
00:39:55.820 And obviously they just don't give a
00:39:58.180 crap about it.
00:39:59.180 It's all just shame.
00:40:00.300 It's all a lie.
00:40:01.360 And I want to play this other part because
00:40:03.400 this is really fantastic here real quick.
00:40:05.320 Let me let me bring this up real quick.
00:40:07.400 So Tony Blinken, in addition to declaring
00:40:10.560 democracy over in Ukraine indefinitely,
00:40:14.260 then went and played a show.
00:40:16.860 I kid you not.
00:40:18.640 Here's a little bit of the guitar stylings
00:40:21.160 of our secretary of state, our shadow
00:40:23.100 president.
00:40:24.180 Here we go.
00:40:37.400 All right.
00:40:51.500 I apologize for subjecting you to that.
00:40:54.580 I know that was that was absolutely brutal.
00:40:57.360 But there is an amazing, hilarious irony to
00:41:02.120 this.
00:41:02.340 I mean, so basically the shadow president
00:41:05.780 of the United States shows up to his
00:41:10.640 to to this proxy government.
00:41:13.940 You know, he declares on behalf of this
00:41:16.300 proxy government, the satrapy of the
00:41:18.800 United States, that democracy is over.
00:41:21.100 It's suspended indefinitely.
00:41:23.060 And he goes there and plays Neil Young's
00:41:25.820 Rocking in the Free World, which is the
00:41:28.540 most boomer stuff you can possibly imagine.
00:41:31.900 Just the most hysterical boomer garbage
00:41:34.980 you can imagine.
00:41:35.960 I'm going to play Neil Young's Rocking in the
00:41:37.720 Free World as I bomb, you know, as I bomb
00:41:42.560 what remains of, you know, of the Ukrainian
00:41:47.520 male population out of existence, or I run
00:41:50.480 them into the bullets of the Russians, at
00:41:52.520 least.
00:41:52.720 And I'm going to I'm going to play this this
00:41:57.140 absurdity after declaring that there is going
00:42:00.640 to be no democracy in perpetuity in this
00:42:03.060 country.
00:42:04.060 That's that's so insane that like, you know,
00:42:06.940 Wag the Dog is a movie about like manufacturing
00:42:09.400 war to save a president's numbers and to raise
00:42:12.380 their notoriety and their approval.
00:42:14.940 And as fantasy fool as that movie is, like even
00:42:18.240 the writers in that movie would have laughed
00:42:20.520 in your face if you told them that we would be
00:42:22.680 doing this in the real world.
00:42:24.520 Like this is this is real life.
00:42:26.440 Like the writers would have been laughed out of
00:42:28.620 the room with how absurd this is.
00:42:31.780 But this this is not what we do.
00:42:33.320 This is the United States.
00:42:34.480 This is this is how we run the global American
00:42:37.340 empire, playing horrific renditions of
00:42:41.820 boomer rock songs about fighting against
00:42:45.840 tyranny while literally ruling another nation
00:42:48.800 by proxy, running its young men to a meat
00:42:51.080 grinder, suspending democracy indefinitely.
00:42:53.740 It's just it's a sight to behold.
00:42:56.080 All right, guys, let's go ahead and get to the
00:42:58.680 questions of the people real quick here.
00:43:01.640 Two bit podcast says congrats on the book.
00:43:04.360 Launch, I've started to suspect that voting
00:43:06.640 elections and even the the most and most
00:43:10.300 podcasts are the soma for the masses.
00:43:12.780 Free will is the true heart is the true
00:43:15.360 threat to the regime.
00:43:16.600 Yeah, two bit podcast, by the way, great
00:43:18.180 podcast had me on over there to talk about
00:43:21.460 the book. So make sure to catch that episode
00:43:23.500 and other episodes. Many of our friends,
00:43:24.980 people who appear on the show appear over
00:43:27.040 there. So make sure you check out two bit
00:43:28.460 podcast. And yeah, very clearly, you know,
00:43:31.180 there's a lot of controlled opposition here.
00:43:33.160 There's a lot of a lot of fugazi about, you know,
00:43:37.040 kind of what could actually push back against
00:43:40.100 what we're seeing here. And that's why I think
00:43:42.400 it's important to recognize the metagame.
00:43:44.160 It's important to understand the dynamics of
00:43:46.140 play and what can actually make any kind of real
00:43:48.380 change because it's not comforting to shatter
00:43:51.140 those illusions. But if we don't, then we get
00:43:53.000 stuck here forever. And that's that's the real
00:43:54.820 nightmare. As you know, people might say it's
00:43:57.580 a as the host actually a two bit says it's the
00:44:00.180 bitter white pill, right? We may not like some
00:44:02.840 of those truths, but ultimately those trees
00:44:04.600 truths lead us to realizations that are they're
00:44:07.720 far more helpful and give us an actual solution
00:44:09.720 to a problem. Creeper weirdo says weird
00:44:13.000 question. What do you say to libertarians that
00:44:15.560 say that you and a lot of the new right are
00:44:17.720 basically just libertarians rejecting the label?
00:44:21.240 Oh, boy, I don't get that too often. I'm
00:44:24.860 certainly not a libertarian. I do not believe in
00:44:27.740 small government. I do not believe in classical
00:44:31.040 liberalism. When I say I don't believe in small
00:44:35.120 government, I actually still think that we
00:44:36.600 should be governed by the local and regional
00:44:38.660 institutions. But what I mean is I don't believe
00:44:41.940 that small government is just in and of itself
00:44:43.860 an unmitigated good. Like I would be for blue
00:44:46.260 laws because blue laws maintain the social
00:44:49.240 sphere of the church and the family and keep the
00:44:52.220 market from encroaching on them. And I think
00:44:54.860 that's actually what combats big government is
00:44:57.460 those opposing social spheres. So I'm for using the
00:45:00.120 power of government in the short run in ways that
00:45:03.460 many libertarians would find unprincipled or
00:45:05.620 unconscionable to prevent the overall totalitarian
00:45:09.880 takeover that happens inevitably once we collapse
00:45:12.840 other social spheres. So, I mean, it's not that I
00:45:17.420 don't agree with some of the libertarian talking
00:45:19.140 points. I think that, you know, a lot of the insights
00:45:22.880 that someone like a Hans Hermann Hopp, you know, brings
00:45:26.760 are really important. You know, there are certainly
00:45:29.940 aspects of, you know, Rothbard and others that I think
00:45:32.820 are valuable, Mises and such. But I think ultimately
00:45:36.920 there is a flaw in at least the popular understanding of
00:45:40.700 libertarian political theory. And it's that they
00:45:44.560 largely lack a theory of power and the realities
00:45:48.260 they're in. So that's how I would respond. And then
00:45:52.160 Robert Weisfeld with just the $3 super chat. Thank you
00:45:55.920 so much, man. Really appreciate you supporting the
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00:46:52.440 are themselves fantastic guys to learn from. Guys who are
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