The Auron MacIntyre Show - Mind-Blowing 55 Million Immigrant Visas Revealed ｜ 8⧸22⧸25

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00:01:15.260 All right, guys.

00:01:18.100 It is a wild day of news.

00:01:20.480 A lot going on today.

00:01:22.260 Some really powerful stories, really important stories, and some stories that are just insane.

00:01:28.480 We're going to be getting to all of them.

00:01:30.320 The first thing I wanted to address today is the announcement from the Trump administration

00:01:35.660 that it's going to be reviewing all 55 million foreigners with USA visas for any violations.

00:01:44.340 Now, it's great, of course, that the Trump administration is going through all these visa holders, 1.00

00:01:50.340 and they're saying, oh, well, we're going to be looking for whether or not these people have any violations

00:01:56.460 that would keep them from entering the U.S. Have there any policies, any codes, any laws?

00:02:01.580 Are they a threat to the country in any way?

00:02:03.340 We want to take a closer look at all the people who have permission to enter the country in the United States.

00:02:08.820 It says here in the AP article, the Trump administration said Thursday is reviewing more than 55 million people

00:02:15.160 who have valid U.S. visas for any violations that could lead to their deportation,

00:02:22.180 part of a growing crackdown of foreigners who are permitted to be in the United States.

00:02:26.460 In a written answer to the question from the Associated Press, the State Department said,

00:02:30.780 all U.S. visa holders, which can include tourists from many countries,

00:02:35.320 are subject to continuous vetting with an eye towards any indication that they could be ineligible

00:02:40.460 for permission to enter or stay in the United States.

00:02:44.080 Should such information be found, the visa will be revoked,

00:02:47.100 and if the visa holder is in the U.S., he or she would be subject to deportation.

00:02:52.400 Great news by the Trump administration.

00:02:54.120 The obvious thing we should already be doing, right?

00:02:57.080 If you have a visa, it's not just a free pass.

00:03:00.160 You are here on our good graces.

00:03:02.580 You are here at our discretion.

00:03:04.760 And if there is in any way, shape, or form a reason that we don't want you here,

00:03:08.660 even the smallest one, we should revoke it.

00:03:11.540 And so going through this and making sure that there are people who aren't hate you,

00:03:15.340 who aren't criminals, who otherwise are not undermining the United States,

00:03:19.960 that is a great thing.

00:03:21.740 However, it's the number that blew people away.

00:03:25.220 It's great that the Trump administration is taking this action,

00:03:28.300 but it's the 55 million number that blew people's minds.

00:03:32.760 Because for a very long time in the United States,

00:03:35.300 we've been told that the problem is illegal immigration.

00:03:38.880 Now, we've always been given this number.

00:03:41.420 15 to 20 million people, maybe, in the country illegally.

00:03:46.140 They used to say 10, they finally admitted maybe it's up to 15.

00:03:50.120 But we know that even 20 million is probably a joke, right?

00:03:54.120 Like, Biden let in 8 million people, at least, during his presidency, most likely.

00:04:01.680 Just during that presidency.

00:04:03.820 So that number already is almost half of the people who are theoretically here illegally,

00:04:10.000 before Biden even began doing what he's doing, or was doing.

00:04:14.540 And so the idea that we've maintained this study like 15 to 20 million number is just insane.

00:04:22.040 Now, of course, people go back, you know, people die, you know,

00:04:25.220 it's not everyone who crosses the border doesn't stay here forever. 0.56

00:04:28.780 But the idea that it's only 20 million at this point has been ridiculous.

00:04:32.960 In fact, a running joke by people on the right on the internet has been,

00:04:36.880 we need to deport 100 million people. 0.93

00:04:39.120 We need 100 million deportations to fix the country.

00:04:42.260 Well, when you look at these numbers of legal visitors in the United States,

00:04:48.600 you start to realize, well, that might not be a ridiculous claim.

00:04:53.340 Now, to be clear, 55 million visa holders does not mean they're all here at the same time, right?

00:04:59.480 There are repeat entry tourist visas and other visas that allow you to come in at different times.

00:05:06.940 And so not everyone who's technically currently issued a visa is here simultaneously.

00:05:13.920 However, even if it's only 30 million people with another 20, 25 million just hanging out

00:05:21.260 with the option of entering the country whenever, that's an insane number.

00:05:28.080 That's an absolutely insane number.

00:05:29.500 Because you start to combine this, what has to be at least 30, 40, maybe even 50 million illegals

00:05:35.980 in the United States at this point.

00:05:37.680 And you start to realize that you could have a fifth or maybe even a quarter of the United States

00:05:44.480 be here from another country.

00:05:47.000 They could be here from foreign countries, either legally or illegally.

00:05:51.740 And all of a sudden, the illegal immigration is not enough.

00:05:56.160 It doesn't get the job done.

00:05:57.640 Because we recognize that there's a massive amount of people who are legally more than most

00:06:02.840 people could even have imagined.

00:06:04.560 If you had floated to the average person, how many people do you think here are probably

00:06:09.260 on visas?

00:06:10.420 You know, not here illegally, but not citizens.

00:06:12.980 What would you guess the number would be?

00:06:15.320 10 million, maybe 20 million, right?

00:06:18.080 That had the opportunity, that had visas at all?

00:06:21.740 That'd still be crazy.

00:06:23.520 That'd still be a crazy number.

00:06:25.060 But, you know, maybe that.

00:06:26.480 55 million people have visas for the United States?

00:06:33.140 Absolutely insane.

00:06:34.540 Absolutely insane. 0.74

00:06:36.500 You can't have that level of foreigner in your country, whether legally or illegally, 1.00

00:06:44.360 and expect to have a real country.

00:06:45.960 For your country to be a home, it has to mostly be people from your country living there. 1.00

00:06:52.740 For a country to be a real nation, to have a real sense of identity, to have a real kinship

00:06:58.140 and brotherhood that allows you to operate as a society, you have to have some stability.

00:07:03.660 If your neighborhood is a quarter B&B rentals, then your neighborhood is not going to be a place where you have kids playing in the yard and everybody knows each other's names and they go to cookouts with each other and they all go to church together and they help each other out in times of need.

00:07:21.860 No, it's going to be a bunch of people who are just transient, who don't give a crap about the houses that they're living in, maintaining anything.

00:07:29.880 They don't care about the people next to them.

00:07:32.100 They don't care about the community that they're currently residing in.

00:07:35.400 You wouldn't have a real neighborhood.

00:07:37.860 You'd just be basically a hotel area, which is what is happening, unfortunately, to many areas in the United States with Airbnb.

00:07:45.960 But the wider point is, if you have that percentage of your population in any given moment inside the United States being foreign, then you're simply never going to establish yourselves as a real country. 1.00

00:08:00.040 You're just an economic zone.

00:08:02.280 You're just a place for people to go and make money or steal money, leech money off of people and then send it back home or go home themselves.

00:08:11.240 That's all you are at that point.

00:08:14.300 So the idea that there are 55 million visas on top of whatever illegal immigrants we have in the nation is just absolutely insane.

00:08:25.380 This is the kind of stuff that drives up your home prices.

00:08:27.800 This is the kind of stuff that fills up your emergency rooms.

00:08:31.020 This is the kind of stuff that makes your universities unaccessible to the actual population of the United States.

00:08:37.300 Jobs, everything, education.

00:08:41.060 It's all filled up.

00:08:42.280 Now, again, some of these people are just tourists.

00:08:44.080 They're just going in and out, right?

00:08:46.220 But ultimately, while they're here, they're using all the services and facilities.

00:08:50.480 Now, you're always going to have a certain level of tourism that's good for your society to some extent.

00:08:55.700 But you don't want it to make up an actual large percentage of your nation.

00:09:02.340 You don't want a sizable percentage of your nation to constantly be moving in and out as if your country doesn't matter.

00:09:08.720 Because remember, with our asylum laws, a lot of people just come in and they overstay their visas.

00:09:17.420 They don't bother.

00:09:18.280 They know they're never going to be hunted down or taken out, deported, forced to leave.

00:09:25.200 You have a lot of people who decide that they're just going to come here and then pretend like they're in danger in their own country when it's just not true.

00:09:32.140 They just want the free health care.

00:09:33.600 They just want the benefits.

00:09:34.900 They just want to live in a first world country. 1.00

00:09:37.260 And of course, their country is dangerous to them.

00:09:39.740 It's dangerous to everyone.

00:09:40.640 It's a third world country, right?

00:09:42.960 We have this insane belief that as soon as someone crosses into the United States, if they're on a visa, they're just going to have to turn around and go.

00:09:53.480 Now, don't get me wrong.

00:09:54.220 There are people for who that happens.

00:09:56.080 There are people who get caught overstaying their visas.

00:09:58.560 But let's be honest, most of the people who are doing that are the honest ones, the ones who are like, well, I guess my visa is up.

00:10:05.820 I have to leave.

00:10:06.640 That only occurs to people who, well, already kind of have a sense of law and order and rule of law and a first world mentality, which a lot of people coming from third world countries obviously do not have. 0.91

00:10:18.360 They don't see the need to follow their rules.

00:10:20.540 They don't see the need for law and order.

00:10:22.020 They don't understand why they would be incumbent on them to remove themselves once they've reached the end of their visa.

00:10:28.780 They're not going to turn themselves in unless some ICE agent pulls them out of wherever they're living.

00:10:34.420 They're just not going to go.

00:10:35.480 And so the fact that we have just this insane percentage in the United States raises all kinds of questions, right?

00:10:46.040 Why aren't we cracking down very heavily on who can come in and out of this country legally? 0.98

00:10:53.440 Forget, you know, we obviously need to take care of all the illegal immigration. 1.00

00:10:57.420 Trump administration has been great on closing the border.

00:11:00.860 I don't think they get enough credit for that.

00:11:03.260 If the Trump administration had not closed the border, this country would be toast, right?

00:11:08.720 I mean, we already still have a very, very rough time ahead of us.

00:11:13.680 But if the Trump administration had not slammed that border closed, it would be done.

00:11:17.860 If we were still getting Biden level of immigration into the United States, this country would be over, right?

00:11:24.600 And so the fact that Donald Trump was able to address that issue is very important.

00:11:29.720 Now, the deportations, those have been going far too slowly.

00:11:33.740 They've been happening.

00:11:34.860 We've been getting some of the worst criminals out, the gangbangers, you know, the abusers, all these people.

00:11:42.020 And that's great.

00:11:42.900 Those are the first people you should go to, right?

00:11:45.280 I understand the legal strategy of basically securing a basis by which you should be acceptably deporting people and have a plan to where they're going.

00:11:55.980 Obviously, we also know that just manpower wise, ICE was not large enough to affect the mass deportations that we needed previously.

00:12:04.300 But now they have a huge budget.

00:12:05.840 They have like a military size budget.

00:12:07.520 And they are aggressively recruiting people.

00:12:10.880 If you're a young guy who's been complaining about the inability to have a future, not being able to make a good job, good money, not being able to go out there and earn the kind of living that could help you afford to start a family, that kind of thing.

00:12:28.280 Then ICE is there and, you know, it seems like a job worth doing as well, protecting our homeland and deporting people who should not be here, who might be threats to the Americans.

00:12:41.360 That's a pretty good gig.

00:12:43.140 So, you know, ICE is growing in manpower and in budget.

00:12:46.960 And so, you know, I was more than willing to give the Trump administration a lot of time to ramp up these deportations.

00:12:53.800 But, you know, you got the budget.

00:12:55.500 You're drafting the manpower.

00:12:57.460 You've moved the worst people out.

00:12:59.220 It's time to ramp up the deportations, right?

00:13:01.720 So, like, that's really critical.

00:13:04.040 But on top of all the illegal immigration talk, obviously, we radically need to address the visa program.

00:13:11.540 Because the number of people entering the United States is just absolutely insane. 0.99

00:13:16.620 It's out of control.

00:13:17.940 Again, some of these people will just be tourists.

00:13:20.740 There are others, you know, overseas still holding the visa, so they're not here.

00:13:24.300 But there's a large, large, large contingent of people here who are competing for jobs, competing for housing, competing for education, competing for health care, taking all of these additional benefits that they get from being here.

00:13:39.280 Many of them will abuse the visas, overstay.

00:13:43.800 So we just don't need these people here.

00:13:45.500 We don't need – why are there foreign students here on visas when American students are having trouble getting into college and affording college? 0.74

00:13:54.500 I mean, we know the answer.

00:13:55.900 The colleges are greedy.

00:13:57.960 We should just take their money.

00:13:59.900 Just seize their endowments.

00:14:01.220 Cut all of their federal funding until they're only servicing American students.

00:14:06.740 Hold them hostage.

00:14:07.600 The Trump administration is doing this over anti-Semitic talk.

00:14:12.100 They could clearly do it over making sure that Americans get education in American universities.

00:14:18.880 That should be pretty easy.

00:14:21.320 I mean, personally, I think you should be raising these places to the ground.

00:14:24.220 But if they're going to operate, then they should operate for the betterment of Americans.

00:14:30.680 And that should be the most obvious goal in the world.

00:14:33.780 So, you know, the fact that we're still handing out visas for people to take American jobs, to go to American universities when other – when American students can't get in, can't afford it, is just insane. 1.00

00:14:45.840 It's just stupid. 0.99

00:14:47.240 We should obviously not be doing this. 1.00

00:14:49.620 So, good on the Trump administration for, you know, addressing this issue.

00:14:54.420 I'm very glad that they're saying they're going to be continuously reviewing all of these visas, you know, to make sure that the holders are not people who should not be here.

00:15:02.460 But at the same time, we need to start talking about that number and getting that number down very clearly.

00:15:10.940 Also, good news, you know, Secretary Rubio also announced today that the U.S. will no longer be issuing any work visas for commercial truckers.

00:15:23.320 For commercial truckers, obviously, the incident in Florida where two, you know, drivers, I believe from India, were driving this truck and trying to do this insane U-turn, ended up killing three people, I believe, in that accident. 0.70

00:15:42.600 The – you know, after that, they said, okay, we're done.

00:15:45.040 There's no reason to be bringing foreigners in to drive trucks. 1.00

00:15:49.820 I don't know, you know, for people who aren't aware of this, you know, the truck driving is one of the last, like, working-class jobs that's relatively decent paying and is accessible to, like, the average working-class, especially white guy in the United States.

00:16:09.680 If you haven't gone to college, if that's out of reach, if some of these higher education options are out of reach and you still want to be able to make a decent living and afford a family, then truck driving is an option for you.

00:16:23.500 That is, it's not a glamorous job, but it's honest work and it pays well.

00:16:28.400 And there's a lot of guys who would just, you know, drive trucks for a living and do well even though they didn't get to go to college, this kind of stuff.

00:16:37.180 And the fact that we are, A, bringing in foreigners to compete with them is already insane. 1.00

00:16:43.240 Already insane.

00:16:44.220 Why would – why do we need to bring in foreigners to drive trucks? 1.00

00:16:48.480 It's the last bastion of, like, easy or relatively easy to enter working-class, you know, blue-collar labor that pays well in the United States.

00:17:01.500 Up there with the trades, right?

00:17:03.540 And even probably a little easier than the trades because you don't need – you know, getting a commercial license, you know, takes some effort, but it's not – you don't need to spend years and years of apprenticing to kind of master that craft.

00:17:15.260 So it's one of the few jobs that is still, like, well-paying and accessible for blue-collar workers.

00:17:23.160 And the answer is, oh, well, then we need to give it to other people.

00:17:25.920 These aren't jobs people won't do.

00:17:27.560 Are you kidding me?

00:17:28.860 I know.

00:17:29.780 I've had family who are long-haul truckers.

00:17:32.360 Like, these are people who are making a living for their family in a respectable way.

00:17:37.060 And there are plenty of people who need to have access to that.

00:17:40.500 I'm sorry, but these companies don't just get to drive down wages with foreign workers because they don't want to keep paying a decent wage to Americans.

00:17:50.640 It's not okay.

00:17:52.240 And so that in and of itself was already insane.

00:17:54.980 But obviously we see that when you're bringing people like that in, they may not be familiar with the laws.

00:18:00.980 They may not be familiar with driving in the United States.

00:18:03.640 They don't have the same cultural expectations.

00:18:05.220 I don't know about you, but I have been to third-world countries where people are driving, and it is insane. 1.00

00:18:11.860 Don't get me wrong.

00:18:12.420 People are already driving insane in the United States.

00:18:14.720 But you go to a third-world country and drive on the roads, and it's just a free-for-all. 0.97

00:18:20.460 It's just complete madness.

00:18:22.160 There are no rules.

00:18:23.780 They technically are driving laws somewhere, but no one's enforcing them.

00:18:27.460 So these people are just throwing things into reverse, driving twice the speed limit, pulling all kinds of crazy turns.

00:18:34.920 They have no respect for the flow of traffic, and so everything is just absolutely crazy all the time if you go to these other countries.

00:18:43.180 And so if you bring in a bunch of people into the country who drive in that kind of environment,

00:18:47.480 why wouldn't they think they can just pull a U-turn across the middle of a median on an interstate with an 18-wheeler, right?

00:18:57.360 Like, it's no crazier than whatever else they do when they're driving in their own country, and they bring that mentality here.

00:19:03.800 So just telling them, oh, well, you got to pass the test, okay, they passed the test.

00:19:08.480 They technically did the paperwork, but that doesn't mean they're going to abide by it.

00:19:11.900 It doesn't mean they care.

00:19:12.840 And so the fact that these people are also, in addition to taking jobs that Americans absolutely want and need and driving down wages that Americans are desperate to earn,

00:19:23.440 in addition to all of that, they're a threat, a threat to the United States and the lives of the people here. 0.93

00:19:28.360 And so, once again, great move by the Trump administration.

00:19:31.800 I'd like to see them more widely apply this.

00:19:34.880 These are not the only jobs that Americans are being undercut by people with these work visas. 1.00

00:19:40.720 Foreigners brought in to take these jobs and drive down these wages and buy up housing and fill your emergency rooms and fill your educational systems, right? 1.00

00:19:52.940 Like, there are plenty of jobs that we could have far more candidates in America actually take if they didn't have this constant competition with the entire world.

00:20:02.960 But I'm glad the Trump administration is at least taking these actions.

00:20:06.600 And again, the simple fact that they told people, hey, there are 55 million visas out there, that's a shock enough.

00:20:15.280 Like, just, you know, whatever action they're taking on it, good.

00:20:17.980 But just the shock of the fact that there are that many people in the country illegally, or even legally, in addition to the ones that are here illegally, it blew people away, blew people's minds.

00:20:30.720 So I think it's very important that the Trump administration took this action, but even more important that what this action uncovered was the fact that we have this absolute disaster of a visa system going on, that these numbers are just insane.

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00:21:21.840 Certain conditions apply.

00:21:22.760 So John Bolton received a nice little, you know, pre-dawn raid this morning or, you know, round-dawn raid this morning from the FBI.

00:21:34.240 John Bolton, of course, famously was, has been very anti-Trump after working in the administration.

00:21:44.660 A guy who really was in support of all the regime hackery towards Trump, was very key in attacking him at every area, was more than fine with the fact that Trump was raided, you know, Mar-a-Lago, that the president was, you know, arrested, had a mugshot.

00:22:04.780 More than happy with the raids on people like Roger Stone and others that were conducted by the Biden administration, Obama administrations, just people who have been abusive towards Republicans in general.

00:22:19.380 However, today he was raided by the Trump administration, and it's still early.

00:22:26.140 We're still not sure exactly all the details, but Kash Patel was out there, director of the FBI, and he was saying, you know, FBI is doing its job.

00:22:36.660 You know, he said, FBI agents on mission here, from the story on The Blaze, and from what we have heard, again, early order, so, you know, information is still coming out, but from what we've heard, John Bolton is being investigated because of his possible allegations of him leaking classified information, which, remember, that's what the Trump raid was supposed to be about.

00:23:05.840 Remember, they told us that Trump had the codes for nukes just, like, sitting in his basement somewhere, right?

00:23:13.820 So, you know, the fact that John Bolton is being raided for the same theoretical crime is very funny, very entertaining, and there's a lot of libs who are outraged.

00:23:27.020 Oh, this is, oh, this is a revenge plot, and this is, you know, this is how fascism arrives, and, you know, this is the punishing of political enemies.

00:23:35.640 And, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, guys, right?

00:23:40.840 Like, remember when we warned you?

00:23:43.600 Remember when we told you, hey, you keep doing this, you keep this up, you are going over the Rubicon?

00:23:50.680 The precedents that we're always being warned about setting, you're setting them?

00:23:54.300 Like, you can't go back after this.

00:23:57.880 You start raiding people, including the President of the United States, for what are obviously ludicrous allegations.

00:24:06.100 Then, eventually, they have to do the same thing to you.

00:24:08.420 That's the only option.

00:24:10.120 There has to be payback.

00:24:11.760 There has to be blood drawn.

00:24:14.160 There has to be tit for tat.

00:24:15.400 You can't just let the Democrats do whatever they want, and then when you're in office, you be the responsible one.

00:24:20.940 No.

00:24:21.740 You guys decided to start this, so we're going to finish it, right?

00:24:26.020 Yeah, you're going to get raided.

00:24:28.060 Your house is going to get turned over.

00:24:29.640 FBI agents are going to slam through your door because that's what you did.

00:24:34.160 It's going to be done back to you.

00:24:35.740 Very simple. 1.00

00:24:36.740 You punch somebody in the face, they punch you back.

00:24:39.040 And so John Bolton gets his house raided on allegations that he has been leaking classified information, including in a book that he wrote.

00:24:48.820 And so we'll see where this goes.

00:24:52.380 I've been saying we've been getting all of these revelations from Tulsi Gabbard and Kash Patel about how the Obama administration coordinated with intelligence to undermine the Trump presidency,

00:25:06.160 push the Russiagate hoax, fabricate everything.

00:25:09.920 We've been told about all these different FBI agents who are violating norms and taking sides, being political.

00:25:17.560 We've had all of these revelations about different actors, bad actors inside the Biden administration, but we've seen very little actual action.

00:25:28.260 We've seen no heads roll.

00:25:30.640 Now, a raid is just a raid, right?

00:25:33.040 He could show up and nothing could happen.

00:25:34.880 Remember, the FBI technically raided Joe Biden because he had some files in a garage somewhere, right?

00:25:41.620 And they didn't, you know, they just walked in, basically said, hey, Mr. President, we're going to look around and take some of these boxes.

00:25:47.160 And nothing happened, right?

00:25:48.560 So just because they went to John Bolton's house doesn't mean that charges are coming.

00:25:53.700 But if they do come, now we're in a different ballpark, right?

00:25:58.640 Now it's the Trump administration playing a very different game, a game they absolutely have to play.

00:26:04.000 So I hope this is an indication, I'm hoping this is an indication, that ultimately we're going to see them widen this.

00:26:12.180 We're going to see them widen this to people like Brennan and, you know, all these other ridiculous, you know, cronies that were involved in Russiagate and other violations.

00:26:26.140 But you have to see this take place, right?

00:26:31.580 It has to happen.

00:26:32.520 And all the whining and all the complaining in the world from the left, you have to ignore it.

00:26:39.200 These people did all of this to Trump.

00:26:41.280 They did all of this to Republicans.

00:26:43.180 They did all of this to what are often completely innocent people, simply for the purpose of sinking their political enemies.

00:26:50.840 You cannot let that go unanswered.

00:26:53.540 And if John Bolton was involved in leaking classified information, and I have every confidence, honestly, that he's the kind of guy has that kind of arrogance, that level of arrogance to do exactly what he's been whining about Trump doing for years.

00:27:10.380 If you do have evidence of that, that man needs to go to jail.

00:27:13.460 You need to play hardball.

00:27:14.920 You need to put these people in jail.

00:27:17.180 None of it matters if these people don't go to jail.

00:27:19.180 Anthony Fauci should be in jail.

00:27:21.560 James Comey should be in jail.

00:27:23.340 These people should be in jail.

00:27:25.540 And so if John Bolton is the first guy they can roll up easily, great.

00:27:30.500 Do it and make sure he goes to jail.

00:27:32.700 That's not enough to just raid the house.

00:27:34.580 He needs to spend time in prison if he is guilty.

00:27:39.660 And obviously, other administration officials from the Biden administration and from the Obama administration also need to go.

00:27:47.500 Well, it's very obvious.

00:27:49.920 So this I'm glad it's another good on the Trump administration.

00:27:53.620 This was a.

00:27:54.920 You know, there's there's been some rough times for the Trump administration lately, but this today is a, you know, pat on the back.

00:28:01.820 Attaboy stream from the Trump administration.

00:28:04.500 So, you know, it's not everything we want for sure, but it is positive moves across the board.

00:28:11.720 We're seeing positive moves on visas, positive moves on limiting who can come in to do jobs and be dangerous in the United States. 0.97

00:28:19.420 Positive moves on rating those that violated the law and extract a political price from those who prosecuted Trump and others, other other Republicans and conservatives.

00:28:36.000 Big, big deal.

00:28:37.700 It's a big deal.

00:28:38.440 It's all first steps.

00:28:39.780 I'm not here.

00:28:40.600 Don't worry.

00:28:40.980 I'm not I'm not going to be waxing eloquent on how amazing the Trump administration is just today, but these are all positive step steps and we should be giving credit where it's due and be encouraging good things when we see them.

00:28:54.740 And these are all good things and they all need to continue.

00:28:58.400 They're all first steps.

00:29:00.520 That doesn't mean that the job is done.

00:29:02.420 It's not even close to done.

00:29:03.880 Barely begun.

00:29:04.440 But they're steps that other presidents wouldn't even bother to take.

00:29:08.360 So good on the Trump administration.

00:29:10.380 Very glad to see this.

00:29:11.320 Want to see more.

00:29:12.520 Want to see fewer visas, more more visas being rejected, more people being deported because they violated the terms of the visa or should no longer be in possession of the visa.

00:29:23.360 I want to see more jobs where we limit the number of foreigners who are allowed to come in and take them from Americans. 1.00

00:29:29.140 I want to see more officials who were traitors to Donald Trump, traitors to the United States who were working to sabotage elections and manipulate intelligence and harm normal patriotic Americans.

00:29:45.260 I want to see those people pay.

00:29:47.640 And so I'm glad to see the Trump administration taking action here.

00:29:50.840 I'm very glad to see this again.

00:29:53.260 It's not it's not all sunshine or rainbows with everything Trump does.

00:29:56.760 But today, lots, lots of good movement.

00:30:00.620 Also, as just a brief side note, there is now a movement.

00:30:06.160 I believe a congressman just put it out.

00:30:08.840 Let me I'm sorry.

00:30:09.480 I've immediately forgotten his name, but let me grab it real quick.

00:30:11.980 Uh, there's a congressman who just issued a letter to, uh, President Bush or sorry, President Bush, uh, President, um, Trump just issued a, uh, letter to President Trump asking.

00:30:29.780 Yes, uh, Congressman Riley Moore, uh, he, uh, issued a, a, uh, a letter to President Trump asking that Pat Buchanan be given the, uh, Presidential Medal of Freedom, which I think is a fantastic idea.

00:30:45.200 I already, you know, did a piece, uh, I released a video on this channel about, uh, why I think Pat Buchanan deserves a, uh, statue.

00:30:54.260 I think we should be building more statues.

00:30:55.940 I think the left tears things down.

00:30:57.660 We should be building things up.

00:30:58.980 We should be honoring great men, uh, who are conservatives with, uh, statues.

00:31:04.600 But at least we can get Buchanan a medal, right?

00:31:08.320 He, the, the Presidential Medal of Freedom is the highest civilian award the president can give.

00:31:13.600 And Pat Buchanan is a guy who has fought his entire life for this country.

00:31:18.320 Uh, when everyone else told him he was crazy, when everyone else told him he was a bigot, when everyone's told him that he needed to shut up and get in line and follow, uh, you know, uh, follow, uh, what the Republican Party was doing.

00:31:32.020 The fact that he was willing to stand up against those people and say, no, absolutely not.

00:31:37.380 Uh, I will continue to fight for my people and my country and its well-being.

00:31:41.640 And, uh, he, he was, you know, pushed into the wilderness for many years, despite getting almost everything right in his predictions, writing very important books and these things.

00:31:50.700 And so the fact that, that Pat Buchanan could be honored with a Presidential Medal of Freedom, I think would be really great.

00:31:57.200 I think it's a great idea.

00:31:58.500 I think we need to celebrate these people.

00:32:00.020 Uh, and so, uh, I'm, I'm very supportive of, uh, of Congressman Riley Moore's, uh, decision to push this.

00:32:07.600 And I hope that, uh, they actually respond, that the Trump administration does follow up on this, uh, because I think this is a very, very, very important, um, uh, thing to do.

00:32:20.060 I think that it's the right thing to do.

00:32:21.440 And if we don't honor our, our best soldiers, if we don't honor, um, leaders who were right, but were shoved to the side, uh, then we'll forget their wisdom.

00:32:30.380 And I think we should absolutely, uh, do this with, uh, Pappy Cannon.

00:32:37.420 Yeah.

00:32:37.860 All right.

00:32:39.920 So, uh, the next thing I wanted to show you is a video.

00:32:43.320 Now, this video is very interesting because obviously I was recently on Tucker Carlson.

00:32:48.440 Um, and when I was on Tucker Carlson, we talked a lot about the nature of civilizations and understandings of the world.

00:32:56.600 Right.

00:32:57.140 And that your different tradition, background, heritage, uh, your, your religious values, these things, your language, they define the way you see the world.

00:33:07.860 They define the way that you understand the world around you.

00:33:10.860 And so when we're trying to interact with other people, we have to recognize that they often have a very different basis for how they have norms and expectations in society.

00:33:22.620 And that, you know, as I said on the show, when I was with Tucker, the constitution and the American system were specifically designed for specific people, a people with a specific way of life.

00:33:34.780 And if you're not from that tradition, if you're not familiar with those norms, if this isn't the heritage you grew up with, the history you grew up with, the faith you grew up with, the rationality, the epistemology that you grew up with, then you have a very different understanding of the world.

00:33:50.160 It might be difficult for you to become part of the American system.

00:33:54.180 Now, some people can, right?

00:33:56.100 There are people who can accept that way of life and join it after generations, their children's children's children can become part of that story and that legacy.

00:34:05.460 But the people themselves give birth to the culture, not the other way around.

00:34:12.320 And so it's really critical when you're looking at how to manage society, what should we bring in a bunch of people from across the world?

00:34:19.360 Does it matter?

00:34:20.920 Will a guy from England assimilate easier into the United States than someone from, you know, Madagascar?

00:34:27.460 Is there any difference between somebody in, you know, in Southeast Asia and somebody in, you know, Finland when it comes from their ability to kind of integrate into the U.S.?

00:34:41.260 These are important questions and ones that if you just assume everyone is the same and everyone thinks the same and everyone acts the same and everyone, you know, understands the world the same, then you could fall into the error of believing that everyone can just become American.

00:34:58.340 Everyone is just a potential American waiting to raise their hand and give the Pledge of Allegiance and swear an oath to the United States and then become a U.S. citizen.

00:35:07.720 But that's just not the case.

00:35:09.240 When we talk about the way of knowing things, the way of understanding things, the way of being, we're talking things that are tied to a people, right?

00:35:20.820 And so this video has been going around on the Internet.

00:35:23.520 I'm going to play some of it and we'll talk about it as we go.

00:35:26.080 But this is a young black woman from Africa discussing African philosophy.

00:35:32.640 She's talking about, I guess, one of the premier African philosophers.

00:35:36.400 I'm not super familiar with African philosophy, so, you know, I'm not going to pretend to be any kind of authority there.

00:35:42.520 But to her, this philosopher is very important.

00:35:46.300 And she says, wildly different understanding of time, just a radically different understanding of reality.

00:35:54.340 So let me play some of this real quick.

00:35:56.440 I told you that for many African societies, the concept of the future doesn't exist.

00:36:02.020 And that instead of time moving forwards, time actually moves backwards.

00:36:05.600 This was the work of...

00:36:06.400 So, already, we see a very, very different understanding of what time could be.

00:36:13.380 Time does not move forward.

00:36:14.940 We're not progressing through time.

00:36:17.560 Time moves backwards.

00:36:19.720 I think both of these are kind of wrong in a way.

00:36:21.800 But the point being, this has radical implications for the way you organize your society.

00:36:29.880 Radical implications for how you understand how you should, you know, treat each other, planning for the future.

00:36:38.220 All of these things are very critical.

00:36:40.380 And if you don't have the same conception of time, you can't plan around them.

00:36:45.260 Like, we all think that...

00:36:46.760 We all assume our conception of time is universal.

00:36:49.040 Of course, this is how I experience time.

00:36:51.220 This is how time works.

00:36:52.900 But she's saying, no.

00:36:54.580 In Africa, we believe time works entirely differently.

00:36:57.380 Now, we know that something like language is a barrier to communication and custom is a barrier to cooperation.

00:37:05.540 But time, time is like the most, one of the most fundamental understandings necessary to coordinate anything about our civilization.

00:37:14.260 And she's saying, we don't even have the same conception of that.

00:37:17.820 Like, we can't even grasp time in the same way.

00:37:21.400 Because we have radically different understandings of how time works.

00:37:24.620 That makes being a part of each other's civilizations very, very difficult.

00:37:31.220 This is a radical difference.

00:37:33.420 A difference so radical, it makes cooperation basically impossible.

00:37:37.280 So let's hear a little more.

00:37:38.340 Of John Mbiti, one of Kenya's and Africa's greatest philosophers.

00:37:41.720 And in 1969, he wrote something that completely reimagines the way we think of African time.

00:37:46.480 Mbiti says time is a two-dimensional phenomenon with a long past, vibrant present, and virtually no future.

00:37:52.260 Using Swahili words, he describes the two dimensions of time.

00:37:56.280 The first one being sasa, the now, the recent past, and the immediate future which can be experienced.

00:38:01.980 The second dimension is zamani.

00:38:04.560 Zamani is the vast, endless past where all events eventually go on to live forever. 0.69

00:38:10.440 But the future in African thought, it barely exists.

00:38:13.800 So the future in African thought, according to this preeminent philosopher in Africa,

00:38:22.260 does not exist.

00:38:25.080 The implications of that are vast, right?

00:38:27.660 They are almost too numerous to take time to go through.

00:38:33.360 I mean, if you do not have a future, how do you understand planning for something?

00:38:38.220 How do you understand a time preference, a lower time preference that would allow you to build civilization?

00:38:47.420 How do you understand denying yourself today so that you can thrive tomorrow?

00:38:53.040 Or that your children or your grandchildren can benefit from long, laboring work that you put in and planned for and denied yourself in the future?

00:39:04.220 None of that exists.

00:39:06.000 It's all gone.

00:39:07.300 The idea of you need to maintain things because you're going to need them in the future.

00:39:11.940 It just doesn't exist.

00:39:14.500 It doesn't exist.

00:39:16.100 You have the past.

00:39:17.560 You have the long, long dead past where things go after they've happened a very long time ago.

00:39:23.040 You've got the present.

00:39:24.320 You've got like the near future, the things that are just about to happen, just around the corner.

00:39:28.380 But the idea of like a long-off future that you need to prepare for doesn't exist.

00:39:35.260 There's no conception of it.

00:39:37.160 And if you don't have a conception of the future, how do you plan for it?

00:39:43.060 How do you put aside money?

00:39:44.660 How do you put aside food for the winter?

00:39:47.860 Well, in a lot of situations, she'll explain, Africans haven't had to.

00:39:52.540 So they don't have these experiences.

00:39:54.660 Time is made up of events.

00:39:56.500 Time has to be experienced in order to be real.

00:39:59.620 So because we can't conceptualize events tied to the distant future because they haven't been experienced yet,

00:40:05.140 then therefore the future cannot constitute part of time.

00:40:07.800 And this is why, according to Mbiti, African languages, at least the East African Bantu languages that he studied,

00:40:13.880 don't have a word to describe the distant future.

00:40:18.540 No word to describe the distant future.

00:40:22.340 They don't have the language for the concept, much less practice the concept.

00:40:30.900 Like there isn't even a word to explain the concept to them because they do not have it.

00:40:37.300 It does not exist.

00:40:38.920 Because time has to be experienced in this way.

00:40:43.680 It has to be experienced.

00:40:46.440 If you can kind of have a short idea of the future, like the immediate future, because it's about to be experienced.

00:40:52.720 But the idea of a long-term future that you might never experience or will only be experienced in a decade or something simply does not exist.

00:41:02.240 Okay?

00:41:02.400 If you've read Alexander Dugan, you're actually pretty familiar with this fact, actually.

00:41:10.540 Alexander Dugan talks about this in the fourth political theory.

00:41:13.840 That time is phenomenological and that different peoples experience time in radically different ways.

00:41:22.000 And so if you're from a culture that experiences time in this very tribal way, a time that has to be, there is no abstract time.

00:41:34.180 There's no understanding of time as this separate thing, but time is only what is experienced.

00:41:39.620 Then you have a vastly different understanding of it than someone who has a culture entirely built on time, right?

00:41:48.680 So much of Western culture requires the understanding of time.

00:41:54.480 How are you going to make a contract to fulfill in the future if you don't understand that there is a future?

00:42:03.900 How do you set time zones and delivery schedules?

00:42:07.600 How do you make agreements?

00:42:10.540 How do you plan to do shipping across, you know, half the globe?

00:42:14.920 How do you land planes if you don't understand the future, if you can't plan because you don't understand time that has not been directly experienced?

00:42:24.280 There are huge implications for this.

00:42:26.560 And again, Dugan has been talking about this.

00:42:29.840 You know, this is, and you know, if you've read Heidegger or any of these, you understand, you know, the understanding that you have to experience a lot of this stuff.

00:42:38.880 And, you know, the direct experience is a critical part of understanding.

00:42:42.800 And so when I found out my friend got a great deal on a wool coat from Winners, I started wondering, is every fabulous item I see from Winners?

00:42:53.560 Like that woman over there with the designer jeans. 1.00

00:42:56.340 Are those from Winners?

00:42:58.040 Ooh, or those beautiful gold earrings?

00:43:00.480 Did she pay full price?

00:43:01.820 Or that leather tote?

00:43:02.780 Or that cashmere sweater?

00:43:04.020 Or those knee-high boots?

00:43:05.440 That dress?

00:43:06.300 That jacket?

00:43:06.960 Those shoes?

00:43:07.640 Is anyone paying full price for anything?

00:43:10.980 Stop wondering.

00:43:12.240 Start winning.

00:43:13.160 Winners.

00:43:13.740 Find fabulous for less.

00:43:16.080 This is, this has been, this is known and talked about, but most people just assume that everybody experiences time in exactly the same way.

00:43:24.820 And then, and this is why, again, when I was on Tucker, I said, you know, the, it's critical to understand the phrase self-evident truths means for people inside your tradition, inside your society, inside your sphere of knowledge.

00:43:40.840 People who share your faith, your heritage, your history, your language.

00:43:46.080 When we talk about self-evident truths, we mean things that are self-evident to us as a people.

00:43:52.420 Because what's self-evident to you, there is a future, we need to plan for it, might be completely not evident at all to someone who's a preeminent African philosopher.

00:44:07.600 Like it might not even occur in the slightest that that is self-evident because it is not self-evident for them.

00:44:16.300 The way they live their lives.

00:44:17.560 And to be clear, Dugan says, we shouldn't be chauvinist about this at the end of the day.

00:44:21.860 You know, they experience things differently.

00:44:24.020 They have a different belief system.

00:44:25.700 They have a different understanding.

00:44:27.580 And that's the way their lives are lived.

00:44:30.320 And we, you know, we, we, we won't be able to force our beliefs on everybody.

00:44:35.500 You can say, oh, no, democracy is objectively the best system or the, this is the way I experienced time.

00:44:41.020 And you'll be right for you.

00:44:43.120 But it's going to be difficult for them to understand that, to grasp that.

00:44:48.200 Because the truth is not self-evident.

00:44:50.800 There's an entirely different set of beliefs working under the surface that you don't even understand.

00:44:56.140 You can't even get your head around.

00:44:58.400 I mean, if you have an understanding of the future, then how do you even live your life interacting with people who do not?

00:45:06.800 What does that even look like?

00:45:08.100 How do you even have discussions, right?

00:45:11.740 We'll make a deal and figure this out in a year.

00:45:13.660 That will mean nothing to the people you're talking about.

00:45:16.420 They do not have the conception.

00:45:18.340 We need to delay this process so we can have more later.

00:45:22.540 Does not compute.

00:45:24.020 Does not make sense.

00:45:24.920 We have not experienced later yet.

00:45:26.800 So we cannot possibly know that we need that.

00:45:30.440 The only way we'll know it is when we get there.

00:45:32.640 All of these have vast, again, implications for the way you run society.

00:45:36.440 In African time, according to Mbiti, events create time.

00:45:40.300 Seasons, ceremonies, a conversation.

00:45:42.640 Those moments produce time.

00:45:44.720 And people produce as much time as they need.

00:45:47.220 An example that Mbiti uses from the communities that he studied is that a year is measured based on four seasons.

00:45:53.600 Two dry seasons, two wet seasons.

00:45:55.400 So a year is only over when those four seasons have taken place.

00:45:59.180 So a year could take 365 days, 390 days.

00:46:02.960 It doesn't matter the number of days in a year.

00:46:05.300 What matters is that the four seasons have taken place.

00:46:09.580 So she's explaining here the belief that time is something that only occurs after certain events have happened.

00:46:17.080 There's a certain set of events that occur and then time has taken place.

00:46:22.540 And people create time as they experience these events.

00:46:26.400 Again, very phenomenological understanding of time.

00:46:29.160 The time is created as you're experiencing these events.

00:46:34.860 No abstract understanding of time.

00:46:37.380 No idea that there's time outside of the individual experiencing things.

00:46:43.260 No idea that, you know, a time could be an abstract set of, you know, days.

00:46:50.180 No, time is these seasons, these experiences.

00:46:53.500 And so if a season is extra long or extra short, then time changes.

00:47:00.540 Time is not the static thing you measure.

00:47:03.520 It is something that is very dynamic and can change radically depending on how you are experiencing the world.

00:47:10.620 What happens, right?

00:47:12.020 Very different understanding of time in ways has some truth to it, but makes it pretty hard to, again, make train schedules.

00:47:21.200 Or, you know, land airplanes.

00:47:24.640 Or ship things across the ocean.

00:47:26.600 Because those things all require really abstract understandings of time.

00:47:31.540 I don't know, you know, what season, how long the seasons are going to be for the next six months.

00:47:39.740 But I need to make sure that this, you know, this shipment is going to get somewhere in six months.

00:47:46.040 And so whether or not the seasons pass or not, that ship still needs to arrive.

00:47:51.260 Because if the ship doesn't arrive where it needs to then, it can't pick up the next thing and move to the next port.

00:47:56.760 And so the planning out of time in an abstract and measurable manner is pretty critical to the Western understanding.

00:48:05.080 To do any of the trade or any of the capital activities that we do, you need to have this more rigid understanding of time.

00:48:14.100 So in a way, our system might only be functional for people who understand time that way.

00:48:20.860 The entire global trade system might be completely unmanageable for people who do not have that conception of time.

00:48:29.760 Who cannot abstract time out into calculable units that are reliable.

00:48:35.080 And in her understanding and in the African understanding of this philosopher, that is not how time works.

00:48:42.240 And so people who do not have a word to describe this phenomenon are going to have a very, very hard time working inside our system, adopting our customs.

00:48:55.360 And they're going to lose out in the larger global economic picture, the geopolitical picture.

00:49:03.620 And this is what a lot of people actually complain about on the left, right?

00:49:08.140 They say, well, your understanding is very Western and imperialistic or whatever.

00:49:12.420 And you can take the imperialism to the side for a moment, but it is very Western.

00:49:16.700 Yes, it is Western centric.

00:49:18.620 It is racist in the, to the extent that it favors people of European descent who understand the world in this way. 0.92

00:49:28.020 But that's also why it works because that's how the understanding of time allows you to behave.

00:49:36.220 And so if you have this civilizational understanding of how time works, then you will structure your society in a radically different way than people from Africa. 0.99

00:49:46.640 And maybe, you know, that's good for the African civilization.

00:49:51.160 I mean, it's the way they want to live, but it will fall behind people who have a different conception of reality, a different understanding of time.

00:49:59.460 Again, you don't have to hate people or, you know, even, you know, make fun of people or something because they have this different understanding.

00:50:05.140 But you definitely need to factor that in when you're deciding who should be in your country and whether or not your system can be applied to other people.

00:50:13.860 This is in contrast to the Western view towards time, where time is a commodity, something that can be spent, saved, wasted, or lost.

00:50:21.120 And according to Mbiti, this is why if foreigners come to Africa and they see people sitting under a tree, they would remark that, okay, why are these people wasting so much time? 0.84

00:50:30.520 But in African thought, that's sitting under a tree, it's not wasting time, it's either waiting for time or producing time.

00:50:38.500 For me, I think this Western...

00:50:40.520 So if you're sitting around, you're not wasting time, you're producing time, you're waiting for time.

00:50:49.220 So the idea that time is a commodity, that time is something that is precious, that time is something that you should allocate thoughtfully to activities that better you or society,

00:50:59.700 this does not exist, that there is no understanding that time is a limited and finite thing to be allocated properly.

00:51:09.580 This simply does not occur.

00:51:12.120 Again, that's not bad.

00:51:16.020 That's the way that they want to live, the way that they have lived their lives, the understanding their community has.

00:51:21.320 But it's just not compatible with the Western understanding of how time works.

00:51:26.440 This is why you tend to judge people who act that way as lazy in the West, mainly because a lot of us have this understanding that, like, no, we should be using our time productively.

00:51:37.940 Time is something that is precious, that is limited, that can be allocated to good and bad ends.

00:51:44.580 And that if you are just sitting around not using your time at all, then you end up creating a worse society.

00:51:53.380 Now, to be clear, there's an unhealthy version of this, right?

00:51:55.920 So you might say, oh, well, that African understanding of time is very bad because it creates lazy people. 1.00

00:52:02.940 But, of course, there is famously people talking about the Protestant work ethic and Americans working too hard.

00:52:10.060 There is probably a level of that where Americans burn themselves out.

00:52:13.760 Now, that's why we build great things, right?

00:52:16.220 We build amazing things because we work so hard and because we have a vision of the future.

00:52:21.560 We understand time in this way.

00:52:23.300 We understand it could be wasted and we don't want to.

00:52:26.660 But at the same time, we can harm ourselves.

00:52:28.700 We can live less fulfilling lives in some ways because we're so busy grinding all the time.

00:52:34.860 I got to work, work, work, work.

00:52:36.360 And if you're doing that work for greatness, that's awesome.

00:52:39.040 But if you're just channeling it into some kind of corporation or some kind of complete waste job that doesn't do anything for people who hate you or aren't producing anything of value, well, I mean, it's admirable that you're working in a way, but you're also just kind of wasting all that for nothing.

00:52:55.760 So there are downsides to this, but I want to live the Western way of life.

00:53:01.640 That's who I am.

00:53:03.540 That's how I understand the world.

00:53:05.340 That's how I understand time.

00:53:06.640 It's what's natural to me.

00:53:07.620 It makes sense because I was born into this culture.

00:53:11.300 It's what my father and my grandfather and my great grandfather.

00:53:14.540 It's how they understood the world.

00:53:16.260 So it's how I understand the world.

00:53:18.400 And I want to live in this way.

00:53:20.680 And if she wants to live in a different way, that's fine.

00:53:23.820 But then we probably aren't going to be able to share values.

00:53:28.400 We're not going to share an understanding of the good, the way that the world should work, the way that we should order society.

00:53:34.460 Because there's a fundamental difference at the core of our understanding of the world.

00:53:39.780 The Western idea of time as a commodity is what drives this Western obsession of progress, development, and some promised future.

00:53:46.960 And this difference shapes everything from politics, economics, to how we live our daily lives.

00:53:51.960 Because in African thought, the golden age isn't in the future.

00:53:55.580 It's actually in the Zamani.

00:53:57.280 According to Mbiti, the future is only a shadow until it comes to the present and then it flows into the Zamani.

00:54:03.960 So in that way, time moves backwards.

00:54:06.460 We are not the ones who move forward into time.

00:54:09.580 So again, just a very different understanding of how the world works.

00:54:13.260 You're not moving forward into time.

00:54:15.160 You're not supposed to make tomorrow better.

00:54:17.880 There is no idea of progress.

00:54:19.300 I have my own issues with progress, but we won't get into that now.

00:54:23.160 But there is no idea that you should put off today to have put off something good or fun or whatever you want today.

00:54:32.940 Because of tomorrow, that's not how it works.

00:54:35.880 The golden age is in the past.

00:54:37.920 The future doesn't really exist until it's been experienced in the present.

00:54:42.400 And then those events move into the past, and that's where all the good things are.

00:54:45.940 So it's a fundamentally rear-looking understanding.

00:54:51.000 It's not looking forward.

00:54:52.440 It's not future-oriented.

00:54:54.000 It's not because they don't have a word for it.

00:54:56.120 It's not forward-facing.

00:54:57.700 It's always the past.

00:54:59.740 It's always the things just come out of the future.

00:55:01.880 However, they're experienced, and then they move into the past.

00:55:06.780 And that's how time flows.

00:55:08.240 Radically different understanding.

00:55:10.200 As she says, this is all, you know, the idea of technological progress and, you know, science and ambition and achievement.

00:55:18.200 These things are all tied to Western understandings of how time works.

00:55:22.060 And if you're someone who has only ever experienced other people with this grasp of time, then you'll just assume that this is how the entire world sees it.

00:55:32.220 Because why wouldn't they?

00:55:33.320 It's so obvious to you.

00:55:34.900 It's self-evident.

00:55:36.280 The truth is self-evident.

00:55:38.160 But this truth is as self-evident to her.

00:55:40.800 However, she sees this. 0.97

00:55:44.900 Many Africans see the world exactly this way and think it's foolish to understand it any other. 0.94

00:55:50.440 Again, you don't need to mock it. 0.97

00:55:51.700 You don't need to hate it.

00:55:52.940 But you do need to understand it.

00:55:55.280 You do need to factor this in.

00:55:56.880 When you're trying to grasp, should we have immigration?

00:56:00.540 Should people with this belief flood the UK or the United States?

00:56:06.660 Are they compatible with those civilizations when they don't understand the, like, just metaphysics that are inherent in our understanding of the world?

00:56:18.880 So, of course, Mbiti wrote this from a theological point of view because he was trying to explain the nature of African religion.

00:56:25.380 But my main takeaway from the parts of the book that I've read...

00:56:28.140 So important here, this is based in African religion.

00:56:32.220 So it's the religion that is informing them this attempt to philosophize, right?

00:56:40.300 As it often does.

00:56:41.980 Totally normal.

00:56:43.260 But you need to understand religion is the core as to why Africans understand the world this way. 0.98

00:56:49.500 And he's looking at time and explaining it this way so he can make it jive with his theology.

00:56:55.380 Because most differences at the end of the day are theological.

00:56:59.400 And so this is very important, okay?

00:57:00.940 Because a lot of people say, oh, this is just genetics or this is just...

00:57:04.480 And no, it's a mixture of so many things.

00:57:06.920 You know, the identity is, yes, it's heritage.

00:57:10.720 But it's also religion, as she said here, central.

00:57:14.700 It's language.

00:57:16.100 You know, as she said, we don't even have the word for the future.

00:57:19.540 So all of these different key factors and identity are working together to make it more or less impossible

00:57:26.340 for people who think this way to operate in a Western society.

00:57:32.240 Is that unlike Western cultures and religions with end-of-the-world myths,

00:57:36.760 African time has no end. 0.99

00:57:38.920 Seasons, years, birth, marriage, death, it's all a cycle.

00:57:42.360 Asante Kwakutazama, Tafakari Hayo, and I'll see you in the next video.

00:57:45.720 All right, so, like I said, important video.

00:57:50.560 I think pretty eye-opening for people who aren't familiar with the fact that other people's do indeed

00:57:56.480 have radically different understandings, not just of small things, right?

00:57:59.900 It's not like, oh, well, you know, maybe they have a slight disagreement over what it means for free speech

00:58:04.800 or, you know, they're...

00:58:05.820 No.

00:58:07.220 Fundamental, core, bedrock assumptions about reality.

00:58:12.820 How does time work?

00:58:14.120 Is there a future?

00:58:16.600 Can you plan things?

00:58:18.840 Is time something you can waste?

00:58:22.100 Should you be looking to better yourself in the future?

00:58:25.080 Should you be planning for your children and grandchildren?

00:58:27.460 These are all very fundamental things that you cannot share values with

00:58:34.900 if you do not have this basic grasp on how the world works.

00:58:39.720 How can you even discuss shared values, an ideology, a propositional nation,

00:58:46.220 with people who cannot abstract time,

00:58:50.380 with people who do not believe that abstract time exists?

00:58:54.680 How do you have a conversation, much less share a civilization based on abstract principle with people who cannot abstract time? 1.00

00:59:07.960 That's a big one.

00:59:10.300 That's a big one, right?

00:59:11.320 And that doesn't mean, again, that these people are bad.

00:59:14.540 It doesn't mean that people who hold this belief or think this way are, like, lesser people.

00:59:20.120 I'm not saying any of that.

00:59:22.000 But, obviously, there's a difference.

00:59:24.920 And a difference that has to be understood.

00:59:26.580 And that difference creates limitations on how you can interact.

00:59:31.720 People who don't understand time cannot participate in a global economy.

00:59:35.620 People who don't understand time the same way that you do cannot understand laws that were created to ensure the future.

00:59:44.760 It just doesn't exist for them.

00:59:46.820 And that's okay.

00:59:47.600 That's the way they live their lives.

00:59:49.560 It's not, you know, wrong in that sense.

00:59:54.000 Because I think it's wrong to think time exists.

00:59:57.120 I think there is a future.

00:59:58.540 But, you know, their understanding of it is not malicious.

01:00:02.120 They're not trying to hurt anybody.

01:00:04.240 And if they can't, you know, update that understanding of the past, present, and future,

01:00:09.680 then they probably just aren't going to work in your society.

01:00:11.780 And that needs to be okay.

01:00:13.500 You just need to be okay with that.

01:00:16.000 You don't have to force everyone to believe what you believe.

01:00:18.280 You don't have to conquer the world and turn everybody into a liberal democracy who understands time the way you understand time.

01:00:25.740 You don't have to do that unless your goal is to rule the world.

01:00:30.440 In which case, you do need to get rid of the particular beliefs that peoples have.

01:00:36.240 Some that might seem wild and completely incorrect to you.

01:00:39.860 But that doesn't mean you should go out and crush those people and, you know, force your belief on them.

01:00:45.740 You just don't have to.

01:00:46.920 Because if you try, then what happens is the situation we're in right now.

01:00:50.900 Where we import lots of people who have fundamentally different understandings of religion and, you know, abstract values and time.

01:01:01.000 You know, money, economics, all these things.

01:01:03.780 And, of course, our civilization doesn't work.

01:01:06.360 How could it work when you have this large of a gap in your understanding?

01:01:11.400 All right, guys.

01:01:12.400 Let's head over to the questions of the people here real quick.

01:01:19.380 Bram Zwingel says,

01:01:20.680 100 million deportations is now the liberal position.

01:01:24.300 Yeah, like I said, it's mind-blowing.

01:01:26.780 That number 55 million visas is just, it's shocking.

01:01:30.700 That was the big story, right?

01:01:32.160 Like, I'm glad that the Trump administration is also reviewing those visas.

01:01:35.220 That's good.

01:01:35.960 But just the fact, the number, the sheer number itself is insane.

01:01:39.600 And so you recognize that, yeah, I know you're going to need to deport a lot more people than we thought.

01:01:44.020 Now, the news has also come out that a little over a million people have self-deported since the Trump administration began.

01:01:51.780 Great news, right?

01:01:53.100 A lot of people said, oh, the Trump administration, they're not deporting people fast enough.

01:01:55.940 I'm one of those people.

01:01:57.220 But remember, they don't have to deport every single person.

01:02:00.080 That self-deportations are a big part of the strategy.

01:02:03.200 If you put enough pressure, you pull enough of those visas, you make it hard for people to get jobs, health care, education, benefits.

01:02:12.120 You dry up their ability to rent a house, that kind of stuff.

01:02:14.520 They'll just go home.

01:02:15.760 They'll just go home.

01:02:17.260 Because it won't be worth being here anymore.

01:02:19.420 So you don't have to physically deport 100 million people.

01:02:22.020 But you do need to physically deport a decent amount of people and create a scenario that makes it so the rest of them need to leave.

01:02:30.520 And that also includes vastly cutting the number of visas that we'll issue to people.

01:02:33.720 Tiny Stupid Demon says, every politician of the prior 60-plus years is responsible for this, all of them, every single one. 0.86

01:02:45.640 Yeah, you can't just blame this on Democrats, obviously. 0.99

01:02:49.500 Republicans have notoriously been the handmaiden to this.

01:02:53.320 They'll make little noises about immigration and that kind of stuff.

01:02:56.260 But they never take action.

01:02:57.280 Trump is the first president, GOP president my entire life, to take real serious action on the border.

01:03:04.580 And so, yeah, you should really hold all of these people accountable.

01:03:09.680 I doubt we'll get justice for every Republican and Democrat leader that was involved.

01:03:14.580 But, yeah, they should not be let off the hook for this.

01:03:17.020 Based Hillbilly says, $10,000 a year to hire an immigrant, 40% income tax for migrants, no citizenship unless they're married to an American for 20 years, 40% remittance tax.

01:03:31.500 So, yeah, this is like a basic barrier, right?

01:03:34.320 You need to pay up front if you're a company to hire a migrant to ensure that there's an additional fee so we know you're not just going to get them for cheap labor. 0.98

01:03:43.700 We need a high income tax on the people who are here, if you have them at all, absolutely no citizenship. 1.00

01:03:51.360 Yeah, marriage for 20 years, you know, 40% remittance tax, all seems pretty reasonable.

01:03:56.620 I don't know if I'd have to think about the different numbers exactly and how I'd want to apply it.

01:04:00.720 But, yeah, these are all perfectly reasonable barriers to put between employers and immigrants so that, you know, if they're hiring people, they're absolutely doing it because they need them. 0.86

01:04:14.620 And those people are not getting citizenship just because they're here and they are paying a large amount of taxes.

01:04:20.520 Like, that is key.

01:04:21.920 That is key.

01:04:22.400 Theod Sininja, I always say it wrong, I'm sure, says we need to return to mid-century immigration laws and philosophy.

01:04:31.120 By the way, the name is pronounced Theo.

01:04:33.240 Oh, fine, he finally did it.

01:04:34.500 Okay, Theo, as in King Theoden, and Sininja, as in, sorry, I can't, let me take down this video.

01:04:44.740 Puninga.

01:04:45.420 Okay, I would not have guessed that, but thank you.

01:04:48.160 I will probably get it wrong again, but I appreciate the clarification.

01:04:51.560 And, yes, we need to radically change our understanding of immigration, 100%.

01:04:56.400 Let's see here.

01:05:00.860 Liturgical Sooner25 says, oh, thank you very much for generous donation.

01:05:05.580 He says, this finally red-pilled my family when the news broke.

01:05:09.880 They now are supportive of deporting most visa holders.

01:05:13.280 This news is apocalyptic for a lot of big corporations.

01:05:16.840 The more these kind of facts get out, the more normal people will fully be awake.

01:05:22.400 Yeah, it is true.

01:05:23.880 Like you, again, yeah, I'm glad the Trump administration is taking some kind of action on this issue.

01:05:29.320 But the biggest thing is just letting people know the numbers.

01:05:32.120 No, this is really how many people are in your country.

01:05:34.520 No, this is really what's happening here.

01:05:36.600 No, you really do vastly underestimate how bad things are.

01:05:41.060 I am with you.

01:05:42.220 I think that this is a number that will blow a lot of people's minds.

01:05:45.760 Tiny Rick says, I am both black and white-pilled.

01:05:49.560 Yeah, that's kind of the thing with this, right?

01:05:52.120 Like the number is so insane that it's easy to be black-pilled.

01:05:54.940 Like, oh, how could things have gotten this bad?

01:05:56.580 At the same time, it's white-pilling that people are finally seeing this, knowing about it.

01:06:00.400 The reaction is insane.

01:06:01.980 Trump administration is taking action on it.

01:06:04.300 So, you know, mix of things.

01:06:05.880 I think the actions are white-pilling, but the reality of where we were is a little black-pilling.

01:06:09.800 I understand that.

01:06:10.840 He also says, we'll continue to build, still Buddhist, but found a church.

01:06:14.960 I like, keep doing what you do.

01:06:17.380 Well, thank you very much.

01:06:18.700 I believe you should absolutely convert to Christianity and follow the one and only Savior, Jesus Christ.

01:06:24.580 There is only one God, and you should believe in him.

01:06:27.900 That said, I am glad that you like what we're doing here, and I hope that you are drawn to the Christian faith.

01:06:35.540 Tiny Stupid Demon says, but these are just equally valid indigenous ways of knowing. 0.93

01:06:41.240 Maybe none of us really have a future. 0.92

01:06:43.640 Perhaps time comes from somewhere else.

01:06:46.920 Martin Heidegger and Nick Land, call your office.

01:06:50.000 Yeah, well, again, I think that this is, I think this understanding of time has issues.

01:06:57.200 But my main point is just, I don't want to, I don't want looking at people's, the way that they understand their reality, to be something that we are hostile about.

01:07:08.820 Because, again, if you look at the works of someone like Spangler, you know, he says this.

01:07:12.360 He says, every civilization, they experience math differently.

01:07:15.640 They experience language differently, art.

01:07:18.260 All of these things are so drastically different.

01:07:20.240 It's very difficult for civilizations to understand each other.

01:07:23.220 So this understanding of the world has been around for a very long time.

01:07:26.080 And, you know, there are great civilizations that understood things differently.

01:07:30.580 So, you know, he goes in, you know, Spangler goes into why Greek civilizations could never have developed the number zero, right?

01:07:39.660 They just didn't have that understanding to come up with the concept of zero.

01:07:43.460 It doesn't mean they didn't do great things.

01:07:45.460 It didn't mean they did amazing things.

01:07:47.240 It doesn't mean they aren't a great culture worthy of respect.

01:07:49.560 But they were just never going to understand the concept of zero.

01:07:52.140 They were never going to develop that inside their culture.

01:07:54.480 Most people would still look at the ancient Greeks and say, that's an amazing civilization.

01:07:59.820 They did amazing things.

01:08:02.220 But they're never going to do that thing.

01:08:04.020 They're never going to have that understanding.

01:08:05.620 And that's okay.

01:08:07.040 That's just how it is.

01:08:08.260 There will be things that our civilization does not understand because of the way it's structured.

01:08:12.560 That will be obvious to some other civilization.

01:08:14.900 And that is okay.

01:08:16.740 That's okay.

01:08:17.260 The problem is when we demand everyone has exactly the same worldview, exactly the same understanding, and we are willing to crush the differences between peoples in order to obtain that.

01:08:29.820 Mostly Peaceful Merch says, they can experience things differently in their own country.

01:08:33.880 America is for people that plan for things like breakfast. 0.87

01:08:36.660 Again, yeah, I tend to agree.

01:08:39.080 I am happy for people to have those different understandings.

01:08:43.160 I think it's fine.

01:08:44.740 I don't need to look down on them.

01:08:45.740 I don't need to hate them.

01:08:47.380 But, yeah, I don't really want people who can't understand time the way that I understand time to be part of my world.

01:08:53.960 Because, like, I need things to happen on time.

01:08:57.200 I need my lights to come on.

01:08:59.820 I need, you know, my food to arrive.

01:09:02.600 I need to make sure that I can go to meetings and plan things.

01:09:06.400 So I need people who understand time the way I understand time.

01:09:09.600 It doesn't mean I need to hate people who don't.

01:09:11.360 But if you're wondering why you're having a very difficult time coordinating with people of other cultures, well, this is why.

01:09:18.720 Because there's fundamental differences you cannot account for if you don't grasp that even the nature of time can be up for question with other peoples.

01:09:28.740 All right, guys.

01:09:30.000 We're going to go ahead and wrap this up.

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The Auron MacIntyre Show - August 22, 2025

Mind-Blowing 55 Million Immigrant Visas Revealed ｜ 8⧸22⧸25

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