The Auron MacIntyre Show - Nothing Ever Happens： War, Assassination, Riots ｜ Guest： The Prudentialist ｜ 6⧸16⧸25

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00:00:13.780 hey everybody how's it going thanks for joining me this afternoon i've got a great stream with

00:00:18.880 a great guest that i think you're really going to enjoy so i keep being told that nothing ever

00:00:24.080 happens nothing will ever happen but this week especially this weekend uh we we had quite a few

00:00:30.120 happenings uh we had wars break out uh we had violent riots we had nationwide protests uh we

00:00:37.020 had assassinations and we even had president trump waffling some on mass deportations we're going to

00:00:44.320 talk about all that today and joining me to round up the week that was is the prudentialist thanks for

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00:02:21.940 slash oran all right so uh like i said uh lots of happenings uh this week definitely a strong l in the

00:02:31.180 nothing ever happens uh category however uh we're going to break down a few of them the first is

00:02:36.440 going to be israel's uh strike on iran uh we now have a full-fledged war between these two nations

00:02:43.620 they are regularly exchanging uh fire now at this point it mainly seems to be rockets and aircraft i

00:02:50.680 don't think there are a lot of boots on the ground uh you know large uh terrestrial strike forces uh being

00:02:57.000 summoned at the moment seems to largely be an air battle uh we know that israel has been talking about

00:03:03.800 what they see is the necessity of the strike for a long time many people speculated uh what seems to

00:03:09.500 be entirely correctly that israel was attempting to maneuver the united states to join them in uh

00:03:15.600 in this strike on iran a lot of people said that's crazy of course the united states isn't going to ask

00:03:21.860 that of course there are of course is really going to ask that of the united states that's a bunch of

00:03:26.060 rumors uh but not only have we seen uh these strikes emerge we've seen several major players both in the

00:03:32.300 united states and in israel uh ultimately ask that the united states gets involved again not shocking

00:03:39.760 uh that israel has started this though you would think that perhaps with all the other military

00:03:45.640 operations they've involved themselves in recently they would be maybe a little more uh you know

00:03:51.720 hesitant to get involved with a much larger country you know iran is not yemen it's it's not it's not

00:03:58.620 one of these uh you know it's a real state with a real military uh and a decent amount of ability to

00:04:04.580 push back along with a number of allies but ultimately they've decided to enter into this

00:04:09.880 conflict uh the the idea is again ostensibly to take out uh the ballistic missile capability of iran

00:04:16.900 along with its ability to enrich uranium they've said that these are the majority of targets that they

00:04:21.800 are striking but of course fog of war it's very hard to know what exactly is being hit how many people

00:04:27.720 have been killed uh if there are other targets other damage and what to what extent uh iran is

00:04:34.240 really going to be able to push back we have seen them start to mount a counter offensive at first

00:04:39.260 people are claiming israel had just struck and taken out all of their ability to retaliate and so this

00:04:45.360 was just going to be over you know immediately uh but it does look like iran is summoning uh a level

00:04:51.220 of defense so prudentialist uh i guess kind of just general question what what do you think about

00:04:55.900 uh you know this conflict sparking over the weekend yeah it's not like what we saw about

00:05:01.500 nine months ago where there was that mass wave of drone attacks coming out of iran after some

00:05:06.240 israeli strikes in the region uh this seems to be far more predicated on some of the domestic

00:05:12.260 political pressure that netanyahu has going alongside uh donald trump's attempt for the last

00:05:17.460 two and a half months or so to pursue some kind of nuclear enrichment agreement with the iranian

00:05:23.700 government and even out of the white house they had said most of the people that they were supposed

00:05:27.780 to negotiate with this last weekend had been killed uh the initial wave of attacks seemed to

00:05:32.580 target bunkers facilities but as well as residential areas where key officials and personnel inside the

00:05:38.620 iranian government and their uh you know nuclear energy and or you know other research had been

00:05:43.560 uh living in so it seemed to be far more of a decapitation strike at first which has now escalated

00:05:48.620 to general exchange of missiles and drone strikes and the use of uh our own intercepting equipment

00:05:53.540 that we've been giving them over the years so um it's different than the last time we've seen

00:05:57.900 conflict out of uh this region which is not really much to say anything because conflict always seems

00:06:02.580 to be happening in the levant and in the middle east but between these two parties you know it really

00:06:07.020 does seem that there's a lot of diplomatic pressure and already a lot of propaganda on both sides that

00:06:12.500 you can see on the timeline that really make this hard to understand i mean we've witnessed some

00:06:18.120 crazy things where you know there will be you know spokesmen or you know influencers claiming that this

00:06:23.760 is why the iranians are doing it and then there's videos of star destroyers underneath uh israeli apartment

00:06:28.640 buildings allegedly so very uh star wars names for star wars conflicts people but on top of that it's

00:06:34.100 also been you know ai edited images where it's like a f-35 the size of miami you know that people are

00:06:41.240 flocking around saying that it was shot down uh and alongside we're seeing the usual route from

00:06:45.840 netanyahu and uh the president of israel um naftali bennett saying you know if it's i understand america

00:06:51.920 first but uh we don't want america dead and there's this ongoing political pressure to bring the united

00:06:56.600 states further in um you know there's also a lot of strategic ambiguity there was a lot of flights

00:07:01.140 happening over the weekend um i had people who are in the armed forces that are friends of mine that

00:07:05.800 have been told hey you might have to go somewhere i know that there are atlantic exercise drills

00:07:10.720 happening at the same time uh so there's just a lot of strategic ambiguity in the air where i don't

00:07:15.820 know where things are going but uh this conflict is you know it has potential to to spiral out of

00:07:21.880 control as any conflict in this region tends to but right now i think it's gonna have to be a wait

00:07:27.040 and see type deal i know that there has been pressure uh on the iranians to either negotiate some

00:07:32.300 kind of settlement uh alongside with the americans and the israelis so only time will tell but i can't say

00:07:38.240 i'm surprised that something was going to happen especially as america and at least this government

00:07:43.560 kept trying to negotiate some kind of agreement with iran yeah unfortunately it did seem that america

00:07:50.280 possibly reaching some kind of agreement was the most dangerous thing uh for uh for israel at least

00:07:58.020 that's how they perceived it that they they needed to stop that for whatever reason uh and so the

00:08:03.740 timeline needed to be accelerated like i said that israel is involved in you know several conflicts

00:08:09.160 uh concurrently and so uh you imagine that but you know fighting a real enemy someone who can actually

00:08:15.360 uh fight back in a way that you know gazans or someone else cannot uh would not be immediately on

00:08:20.920 their checklist if they were being wise with deployment of forces and stretching of resources

00:08:25.160 uh but it seemed like as you pointed out the domestic uh issues that uh bb netanyahu is facing along

00:08:31.500 with uh the timeline that had been truncated by the possibility of trump reaching some kind of

00:08:36.520 agreement meant that they had to engage in the attack whether uh that was prudent or not and so

00:08:42.280 you now have a scenario where again many many people told us you know that this was not going to happen

00:08:49.320 it seemed like at least to some extent uh you know israel is trying to play up the u.s.'s involvement

00:08:55.720 in the strike while the u.s is trying to play down its involvement in the strike and unfortunately

00:09:01.320 due to the level of kind of incestuous relationship that the u.s. government has had with the israeli

00:09:07.040 government and its military it's very difficult to know how true that is how much actual material

00:09:13.120 aid are we providing how much intelligence are any american troops involved these are all things that

00:09:18.660 we're told no maybe most of the time by the u.s but yes by the israeli government and so there's

00:09:24.660 they're intentionally sowing a large amount of confusion it feels again like the the purpose is

00:09:30.100 ultimately to bring the united states in this war and you can tell that by several people we have

00:09:35.780 mike huckabee talking about how there's 700 000 americans in israel so israel's problems are our

00:09:42.180 problems and it's like no mike uh that that's actually the problem is we don't think that

00:09:47.080 dual citizenship should exist and you trying to use dual citizenship as some kind of cause of spell

00:09:53.200 is the problem one of the reasons that dual citizenship is such an issue is it easily uh

00:09:59.800 turns into stuff like this where uh guys like huckabee can say oh no we have to come to defense

00:10:04.320 it because there are americans even though they're living in israel and loyal to israel because that's

00:10:10.220 where they're residing and that's where people are fighting it's our job to rush in and defend those

00:10:15.220 people we also had mike pence obviously the former vice president of the united states uh talking about

00:10:20.860 how it's america's duty to go in and clean up iran after uh being after israel has struck it 0.62

00:10:26.840 and then today we had you know bb then you know come out directly and say yeah or yesterday uh come

00:10:32.680 out and say yeah no i i don't i understand america dead uh the you know the iranians are going to try 0.87

00:10:37.640 to kill donald trump they're going to kill americans that's what it's all about and this has a lot of 0.86

00:10:41.880 people very concerned about the possibility of a false flag operation some kind of uh attack carried out 0.96

00:10:49.360 uh need to look like it's from iran and ultimately giving the cause and the necessity to go in now

00:10:55.420 again this doesn't make iran the best country in the world it doesn't mean they don't wish us ill

00:10:59.900 obviously they do some people will claim because of our actions in the middle east but regardless

00:11:04.200 i don't think these guys would be huge fans of the united states either as i always tell people

00:11:08.240 you know you don't have to choose a side here like you don't have to you don't have to look at

00:11:12.580 either of these countries and say oh well one of them is on my side and the other one isn't

00:11:17.180 you know uh ultimately this is israel's conflict and it should be theirs to fight if if bb netanyahu

00:11:23.080 wants to start another war on another front well that's up to him and it's not our job to rush in

00:11:28.540 and save him and it's very clear that that seems to be the message we're getting from our own

00:11:33.320 politicians as well as the leaders of israel yeah and we saw something very similar to during the

00:11:39.900 election cycle uh just last year that uh these alleged assassination attempts on donald trump or

00:11:47.680 that there had been intelligence reports that the iranians wanted to do something uh against trump and

00:11:53.080 we still don't have any actual answer as to behind the people who did try to kill the president of the

00:11:59.100 united states and we probably never will both for um fog of war reasons but also god only knows what

00:12:04.900 our own government has tried to do in preventing trump from going to the white house again so it to

00:12:10.160 me a lot of this already shows the political pressure is on in america the the lobbying machine

00:12:14.780 as well as the you know already pro uh israel um representatives and senators and our congressional

00:12:22.420 system have already gone out of there i think you know representative randy fine who has been very open

00:12:27.920 about you know doing it for free so to speak when it comes to supporting any sort of israeli endeavors in

00:12:32.900 the middle east that you know gaza nuking it's a bad idea because the fallout would affect the hostages 0.98

00:12:38.480 so you know it's uh psyop season is upon us i mean we're already the most psyop place on earth as it

00:12:44.340 is but it really does uh beg the question that we have to how how vigilant do we have to be or how much

00:12:49.760 is what we're getting anything close to what's actually happening on the ground and it's very hard

00:12:54.080 to determine that right now and so it's very similar with what we saw on october 7th it's very similar to

00:12:59.960 what we saw when the war began between russia and ukraine that we're not really going to know

00:13:04.580 the truth behind all this i think for any you know length of period of time but it just behooves us to

00:13:10.900 be very clear-headed as an as the administration goes forward i know trump has said that the iranians

00:13:17.360 need to make a deal that they're not winning this war and that things are continuing to um drag other

00:13:23.280 parties involved whether it be america or of course iran and russia's very close relationships both when it

00:13:29.380 comes to drones manufacturing intelligence not to mention the chinese so there's a lot of things

00:13:33.740 at play here that we're just not going to know but again uh you don't have to like either side

00:13:38.700 just because one side is purportedly evil does not mean that the other one is going to be this paragon

00:13:43.260 of moral goodness and what needs to be at the front and center of all things is what actually benefits

00:13:49.640 real americans and what benefits the country and unless that question is front and center about any

00:13:54.940 foreign policy decision it's not going to look good for this administration it's not going to

00:13:59.460 look good for the you know little bit of political capital he's got going on and that you know trump

00:14:04.280 and the national security team and everyone that he works with really should be looking at this and

00:14:07.740 saying uh you know the same questions we've been asking about ukraine we've given so much material so

00:14:12.920 much money so much resources it's very difficult to build things at home right now and not to mention

00:14:18.800 our own national security apparatus like rebuilding and you know restocking vital munitions we've given to

00:14:24.160 israel and ukraine for the last several years both under this administration but also biden like

00:14:29.280 it's very hard for us to say we're going to go to war and then we have you know maybe half a magazine

00:14:34.760 loaded for some of our most important equipment and technology so i think that better heads need to

00:14:40.120 prevail on this issue i agree 100 and again i am heartened by the fact that at least messaging wise

00:14:46.860 the the thing that has been put first and foremost by the trump administration is we are not involved in

00:14:52.420 this this is not our strike do not strike us back that said many people are worried that especially

00:14:58.900 due to again the free nature of exchange of information and material that often comes between

00:15:05.400 israel and the united states military uh that this will naturally draw us in no matter what

00:15:11.220 and i want to just make it really clear right now like just completely unambiguously uh donald trump

00:15:17.080 was elected to put america first bb netanyahu does not get to decide what america first means he does

00:15:23.420 not get to define america first now and i'm sorry but i don't care how often mike huckabee or mike pence

00:15:31.480 or any of these other guys go out there and talk about it israel is not the united states that's not

00:15:36.460 the same thing these things are not synonymous people do not want to go to war they want the united

00:15:41.540 states out of war that means that donald trump should not in any way shape or form involve himself

00:15:47.560 in this war and the united states in this war this is not what he ran on and so far he has avoided that

00:15:54.380 i would like to see him triple down on that commitment make it clear the united states is not going to be

00:16:00.180 involved because i want to tell you right now israel is selling this conflict just like this we always

00:16:06.260 hear it it's always the same it's the same story every time you'll you'll hit them blitzkrieg in and out

00:16:13.020 in a few months an airstrikes and it's over this is always the story this is always the lie but iran is not

00:16:21.060 that kind of country you are not just going to put them down with a few airstrikes and if you put group

00:16:27.760 boots on the ground in iran it will be a afghan iraq level disaster minimum it will probably be much worse

00:16:36.080 but it will be just as disastrous as those conflicts it will result in a long-term country

00:16:42.420 building situation exactly exactly the thing that donald trump has campaigned against literally

00:16:48.600 his entire life this is exactly the stuff the nation building is exactly what he said he never

00:16:53.880 wanted to do exactly what he said the republican party should not be doing and exactly why his

00:16:59.900 understanding of america first has come to dominate and now he needs to follow through he needs to

00:17:05.820 keep exactly that line and that understanding that he has had his entire life and he needs to put it

00:17:11.080 to work here because the united states if it gets involved in this conflict will feel a terrible

00:17:17.880 terrible price for for getting involved again this is not a oh well iran is a good guy no it's just that

00:17:25.560 it's not our problem and we don't need to get involved especially when israel unilaterally started

00:17:31.520 this war we are not the united states is not in this relationship with israel where it's like our

00:17:37.260 drunk girlfriend at the end of the bar picking fights with you know 300 pound guys and expecting 1.00

00:17:42.280 us to go in and finish the job that is just not how it should work israel is a completely competent

00:17:48.380 modern military if it wants to fight wars it can fight them it is not the united states job to get

00:17:54.080 involved so i really want to make it clear that there is just no way that you are going to walk in there

00:18:00.360 and toss a couple bombs in and call it a day if the united states involves itself in this operation

00:18:06.020 it will be involved in the rebuilding of iran because to be clear that's the thing israel will

00:18:11.800 never do israel does not have the manpower it does not have the logistical capability to take care of 0.73

00:18:18.080 rebuilding a regime and that's what they'd have to do to actually get rid of the threat so if they're

00:18:23.880 going to go in there it's not just going to be a few bombs it's going to be guys on the ground

00:18:28.500 spending decades trying to turn that regime into some mick america thing the same thing that's lost

00:18:35.280 every single time we've tried to do it in afghanistan and everywhere else i really really

00:18:39.780 cannot encourage this enough donald trump should not be involving this this is not what his voters

00:18:44.820 voted for it's not what he campaigned on it's not what he talked about his entire life and no foreign

00:18:50.120 leader gets to tell you what america first is so please put america first and get us out of this

00:18:57.360 thing let israel do what it's going to do and suffer whatever consequences it's going to suffer 0.94

00:19:02.120 it's not our problem yeah i absolutely agree and it shouldn't have to be our problem in the sense that

00:19:09.120 uh entrenching ourselves further in a conflict in which we're not particularly prepared for

00:19:14.300 especially when a lot of the rhetoric that has come out of this administration has been primarily

00:19:18.880 focused on a sort of a obama-esque pivot to asia when it comes to trade and strengthening our

00:19:24.700 pacific partnerships and then to see um a lot of our carrier groups move towards the middle east in

00:19:29.840 response to all this i mean it just illustrates sort of the precarious position we are as a global

00:19:35.060 hegemon politically speaking and i get it like you know for whatever reasons that may exist for america

00:19:40.740 to be involved in here it needs to be done with the clear-headed understanding that to get entrenched

00:19:46.220 in a conflict when we do not have the production capability for long-term sustained engagement

00:19:51.300 now is not the time to be an adventurist with foreign policy we have been an adventurous and

00:19:57.180 foreign policy for more than my almost my entire adult life uh inside of the middle east and to look

00:20:03.620 at it now and to see the same kind of rhetoric that emerged in 2003 about invading iraq where you know

00:20:08.680 today it's tel aviv and tomorrow it's new york uh i can't help but get deja vu vibes out of this and

00:20:14.380 i think it would just behoove this administration to realize that we are not in a position to be boots on

00:20:19.500 the ground really anywhere and the only boots that we should be having on the ground right now

00:20:23.380 are quelling protesters assisting in immigration raids and trying to make the country an actual

00:20:28.620 sustainable nation state again rather than what it has become which has been this you know calvacate of

00:20:35.340 ethnic enclaves and protest groups and stuck in this react respond cycle that the left has put out

00:20:43.040 inside our own country i mean even with the chinese question right like we just talked about

00:20:47.680 how we had two students trying to come in here to genetically modify wheat blight to cripple

00:20:52.380 america's agriculture industry and we're making bad decisions on that front about letting you know

00:20:57.340 chinese student visa holders come back to the country to study we cannot be doing these things we are in 1.00

00:21:03.000 too precarious of a position to be getting involved in another boondoggle in the middle east dragged by

00:21:08.180 people that have always dragged us into conflicts like this that have not served america's interest at all

00:21:13.640 that's exactly right we we have a country to save here uh like we like there is a serious

00:21:19.580 logistical operation that needs to happen in the united states and it is mass deportations and that is

00:21:25.140 where all of the energy should be put i don't want a single dollar going to israel i don't want a single

00:21:30.160 dollar going to you know iran or anyone else or the conflict between them i want all of that money

00:21:36.100 put on into border patrol into uh border walls into getting these people who are not supposed to be

00:21:42.680 here out of the country so that we can have a real country that is what people actually voted

00:21:46.940 for donald trump to do so that said uh obviously we had the la riots uh previously uh it's kind of

00:21:53.860 kind of continuing you know you have trickling violence it's not as bad it's you know much more

00:21:58.780 under control but things are still occurring in la and those riots were uh really bad optically for

00:22:06.380 the left uh obviously you have military aged men you know uh swinging mexican flags around while

00:22:12.860 screaming la raza the race i'm taking this back for my people in mexico uh obviously this blows up a lot

00:22:19.380 of narratives about immigrants and what if they care about the united states and how they're so good for

00:22:23.740 the united states and yeah that that's their main uh focus is just making a better life and becoming

00:22:28.420 american you know that really blew up a lot of narratives for the left and for the right honestly on some

00:22:33.560 level and so what we saw over the weekend was this no kings uh protest right and and for the most part

00:22:41.100 the no kings protest we'll get to the very large exception here in a minute but for the most part

00:22:46.540 the no kings protest uh was a far more optical uh protest for the left i think uh you know those

00:22:53.620 decisions were made because of the disasters that occurred uh in la and so we saw a lot of uh elderly

00:22:59.960 people who kind of didn't really know where they were or what they were doing uh there's a lot more

00:23:05.060 american flags a lot more discussion of the constitution and and and the importance of rights

00:23:10.000 there uh and so uh i think that these protests probably didn't have a significant impact i think

00:23:16.160 the la riots will probably stick in people's minds much more uh than these protests uh but it was very

00:23:22.300 clear that the left needed to save itself from an optical disaster and so these no king uh king's

00:23:28.240 protests were kind of the attempt to do that to try to switch things back over to an american flavor

00:23:33.660 rather than just going straight for the uh you know mexican blood and soil nationalism uh that they

00:23:39.540 were doing in la i think they're totally fine with both and i think the the deafening silence from you

00:23:46.460 know senate majority leader john thune and other republican leadership is kind of deafening in the sense that

00:23:53.220 um you know when we're not really protesting or getting behind the agenda at hand where you have

00:23:58.220 absolutely very clear signs of a national security threat i.e combat aged uh foreigners waving a flag

00:24:06.260 of a foreign power inside your country with a foreign national leader uh saying that they will mobilize

00:24:12.300 the uh dual citizens or even the illegals that are inside of this country over remittances and things

00:24:17.960 like that and then trying to have a softer older whiter um image there i mean to me that just sounds

00:24:24.140 like well your silence is if anything just a tacit endorsement of what's happening and we already know

00:24:29.060 that most of the republican establishment is not happy at all whatsoever with trump being in the

00:24:33.120 white house again and are happy to sort of stand by and watch as the ongoing apparatus of professional

00:24:39.160 leftism whether it's on a state level and a local level with various democratic party officials

00:24:44.300 or you know various ngo funded groups and there are plenty that did not get funded by usa that are

00:24:50.100 funded by very powerful um leaders inside either venture capital or the silicon valley world or have

00:24:56.400 just made their money through other means pharmaceuticals and the rest that will happily fund all means

00:25:01.680 necessary to generate a cycle like i had mentioned earlier where it is going to be stuck in this

00:25:07.420 reaction response cycle and when that happens your ability to set the agenda as the alleged national

00:25:14.480 head of state is disrupted very clearly there are a lot of things that americans need to be focused on

00:25:21.060 for the benefit of their own country whether it's what you an academic agent talked about the other

00:25:25.640 week about dismantling the community relations service whether it's about actually putting forward

00:25:30.300 mass deportations and you know trying to ignore the establishment you know big red state farm you know

00:25:36.900 agricultural lobbyists that are talking about trying to get some sort of cut aside for their own slave labor

00:25:42.420 so i mean it's really not a color revolution or anything that we're seeing with regards to

00:25:47.320 uh you know what we what you've seen a lot of punditry call it i mean it's just revolution period and i think

00:25:53.520 that it's really important to understand that whatever terms that we want to throw on here really just

00:25:57.740 obscure the fact that you were witnessing um for no lack of a better terms just a very subtle kind of like

00:26:04.660 cold you know civil war playing out right now which is the movement of bodies activists there are people

00:26:10.020 that obviously have pallets of trucks and people that gather to light molotov cocktails and the

00:26:14.200 rests these have networks that need to be investigated i know data republican on twitter has done some of

00:26:19.600 that already which is good but it illustrates that our ability to be situationally aware of how bad things

00:26:25.420 are in the country uh they get kind of caught up once we're reacting to like the latest protester

00:26:30.320 or the latest liberal crazy of the week when a lot of this i think is far more coordinated than a lot of

00:26:36.340 people give it credit for and the more that they can disrupt the momentum of the administration

00:26:41.100 especially when we're only you know less than six months in since he's been sworn into office

00:26:46.500 that we've been caught off guard by dealing with a foreign conflict abroad that they want to have us

00:26:51.240 be dragged into the establishment uh on top of the fact that we're witnessing literal you know ethnic

00:26:57.000 militant conflict in most parts of the southwest like all the people that disregarded buchanan and other

00:27:03.460 people on the right about like atzitlan strategy and stuff like that from the 90s and 80s uh those

00:27:08.460 guys were always vindicated buchanan and a lot of other people to the right of him have been vindicated

00:27:13.000 for the last 40 years on that issue alone so i think what we're witnessing right now is uh you know

00:27:18.340 kind of just insurgency from state governors city mayors federally elected senators all these people

00:27:23.240 that are happy to just sort of sit back and watch it or even have uh people like ted lu in congress

00:27:28.240 advocate for the troops to disobey their orders you are having literal sitting members of congress

00:27:34.220 that are either foreign born or clearly not of american origin telling the united states military

00:27:39.480 to ignore the orders of the duly elected commander-in-chief uh if there was ever a greater

00:27:44.580 reason to look at you know things that have happened uh this is what we've been dealing with

00:27:48.540 for the last 10 years since trump literally 10 years to the day went down the escalator and said

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00:28:30.080 details yeah it's uh only getting worse as well uh we'll we'll talk a little bit more about uh about

00:28:38.580 some of the carve outs you were talking about when it comes to different industries but before we do

00:28:42.800 i do want to talk about the uh politically motivated assassination that happened over the weekend so

00:28:49.660 uh it looks like uh i believe it was uh yeah on saturday uh the uh police in minnesota were called

00:28:57.500 uh to the home of some of the different state representatives there you had melissa hortman

00:29:02.920 uh and uh her husband and then uh jeff hoffman uh and his wife uh the hortman's uh were uh were killed

00:29:11.380 uh tragically uh the hoffman's have survived their wounds it seems uh so far at least uh hopefully

00:29:18.060 they continue to recover uh it seems that uh the the suspect which is comes in custody uh vance bolter

00:29:26.340 uh allegedly was involved in both murders uh he dressed up as a police officer uh was wearing police

00:29:33.700 gear uh along with everything else and a badge uh he was wearing a uh a mask uh and it looked like

00:29:41.620 something out of a horror movie really uh coming to the door and knocking on these people and luring

00:29:45.500 them out uh under pretense of being a law enforcement officer now uh he has now been uh captured uh here

00:29:53.480 recently he was on the run for a while there's a manhunt going on uh for a while uh but this man was

00:29:59.380 allegedly involved in uh both shootings uh now uh we know that there's a manifesto but it's not being

00:30:06.120 released uh many people have many people have speculated as to why it's not being released uh

00:30:12.020 one of the reasons they've been speculating is that a number of flyers for the no kings protest

00:30:17.220 were found in the man's vehicle uh and uh the alleged shooter many people have connected this with

00:30:25.140 the fact that melissa hortman had crossed party lines and voted against free health care for

00:30:31.040 illegals in minnesota you know not because she cares about the integrity of the united states and

00:30:35.720 it's and it's uh uh uh you know it's you know whether or not it'll continue to exist as a nation

00:30:41.180 but simply because the fiscal reality of just funding that in her state was going to be insane

00:30:46.560 uh i believe and a lot of people have tied to that idea that ultimately she was shot and killed her

00:30:51.980 and her husband were shot and killed because she went against the wishes of the democratic party

00:30:56.500 and the wider movement to fight against deportations and the takeover of the united states by functionally

00:31:03.620 illegal immigrants and their representatives inside the united states uh so again we don't know that for

00:31:09.900 sure because we literally can't see uh the the manifesto that he had uh but a lot of people have

00:31:16.320 speculated on that given his other connections now the left has tried to spin him as some kind of

00:31:20.660 pro-life right-wing guy who was going to target a bunch of abortion clinics or something i'm not

00:31:25.540 sure how they even got like that narrative uh but but that has been their attempt but ultimately we

00:31:32.240 don't know all the details this is still a wait and see scenario but tim waltz uh himself declared

00:31:39.160 this a politically motivated motivated assassination by the way uh this guy was put on some kind of board

00:31:44.320 by tim waltz as i understand it uh but but ultimately uh you know even even the democrats are

00:31:49.500 admitting this was a politically motivated assassination yeah there's so much information

00:31:54.600 about this guy that we don't know i mean there's been video footage of him in africa with some sort

00:32:00.460 of christian charity group you know apparently giving a sermon uh you know there's allegations

00:32:04.920 about him having a security company and you know maybe having only one client and then they have

00:32:10.240 this guy out on television who looks like the uh south park sort of like you know fat neckbeard

00:32:15.920 type character who says that this was this guy's roommate i don't think that a uh well-to-do

00:32:20.480 political appointee who's got a background and well off for himself is going to have a kind of a

00:32:25.940 papa john's delivery guy as a roommate allegedly claiming that this guy's a right winger um regardless

00:32:31.300 of what the facts may present to us what we have seen of course is just the blanket statement from

00:32:37.780 governor tim waltz and other lefties saying that like violence isn't the answer but it's you know

00:32:42.400 the same thing that we see from radical leftists all the time there's you know no bad tactics it's

00:32:47.560 just about targets that really matter here and what we've witnessed in america especially since

00:32:52.440 it's gotten so much worse since when the californians had their political voice silenced by a judge when

00:32:58.600 they had voted several decades ago to repeal free benefits for illegal immigrants that now the 0.98

00:33:03.980 situation has gotten so worse that if you're here illegally and a democrat who's allegedly on your

00:33:09.220 side of patronage votes to cross party lines that political violence is now the precedented example

00:33:14.800 um so much about his story we don't know is hasn't been revealed i doubt we'll ever see the manifesto

00:33:20.860 if there even is one um and if it's going to be like that maybe we'll wait in a year and see what gets

00:33:25.120 released on a on another pundit's website or whatever but overall what we've witnessed so far is is

00:33:30.540 that uh political violence works if you're a leftist as it has always been in this country since you

00:33:35.600 know really uh john brown onwards i hope that there's consequences i hope that you know it's a

00:33:40.660 short stop and a quick drop but nevertheless uh it just illustrates that when we're trying to do things

00:33:46.320 to save the country i.e you know deny gibbs and deny benefits to people who shouldn't even be here to

00:33:53.500 begin with uh this is a we're a very real consequence that some people might face and people correctly

00:33:59.660 pointed out when she was on a press conference saying that why she voted for it she looked and sounded

00:34:05.180 terrified because she knew that she was doing something that was going to put her at great

00:34:10.800 risk to her own life and unfortunately it came at the cost of her life for doing something that

00:34:15.740 everyone and their mother just a matter of years ago would have said this is perfectly common sense

00:34:20.520 no one who's here illegally should be allowed to get the benefits of the taxpayer it was true back then 1.00

00:34:26.120 it's true today and it has been true eternally and so i think that it becomes very clear to us that

00:34:31.880 uh you know they were probably either expecting it or they either knew him or he looked like a police

00:34:37.140 officer on the dash cam footage but it does raise some more questions than we'll get answers to

00:34:41.340 why you would open the door for someone with a rubber mask or anything like that especially when there

00:34:45.780 are cameras on properties and things like that uh we there's so much we don't know but nevertheless

00:34:50.260 uh it really does tell us that the left has no problem using violence to get their goals as they always

00:34:55.100 have and the amazing thing is of course you know we always knew this was a lie but for many many years

00:35:01.020 everybody even under trump you know the fbi was talking about how white nationalism was like the

00:35:07.420 most dangerous thing that this was going to be the terrorism threat that you know that right-wing

00:35:12.200 domestic terror was going to be uh what what threw the united states into this horrible situation

00:35:17.780 and what we see of course is repeatedly whether it's left-wing terrorists shooting up a republican

00:35:24.000 uh you know uh representative baseball game or whether it's uh you know crazy people trying

00:35:29.800 to shoot donald trump in the face it's all of this violence we see at protests it's all of these

00:35:35.200 attempted you know beating up ron you know uh ron paul or ran paul rather you know like just over and 0.52

00:35:41.240 over again we see that it is the left who is engaged in direct violence against american politicians

00:35:48.300 even when they're leftists even when we we have a leftist here and like you said she's just trying

00:35:54.180 to do the right thing on something right like it's not an amazing uh uh difference but it's just

00:36:00.680 some level of active courage standing up to the craziness of her own party and saying guys we can't

00:36:06.380 do this thing that's absolutely going to bankrupt us and even that is met with what appears to be

00:36:12.220 an assassination attempt by this alleged shooter and that is insane like that the fact that it is

00:36:18.600 it is you know i hope you're a radical leftist if you're on the left because if you're not the radical 0.53

00:36:23.680 ones will shoot you they will literally murder you for not doing what they tell you to do this is why 0.99

00:36:28.960 the woke isn't going away guys the woke isn't going away because the woke will shoot you they will kill 0.98

00:36:34.400 you you are the enemy if you put any kind of barrier between them and the revolution they do not care

00:36:40.360 they will take you out like it never pays to be half a revolutionary that you will always be the

00:36:47.000 one who gets caught in the crossfire and so literally unfortunately that this this is terrible but that

00:36:51.680 is what happened to melissa hortman is is that ultimately it would seem that she paid a very

00:36:56.720 significant price for having some level of political courage to stand up to her own radicals uh and i don't 1.00

00:37:02.880 think this is going to get any better on the left i don't think they're going to calm down they're just

00:37:07.220 going to keep pointing to the right saying oh it's all trump it's everybody else they're going to

00:37:11.100 they're going to come up with some you know insane idea that everybody who does political violence

00:37:16.120 is a right winger even though all of the evidence points the other direction and they'll they'll

00:37:20.840 continue to tell the story even as their own people murder their own people it really doesn't 0.65

00:37:24.980 matter to them yeah the left will always eat their own in the revolution we know this from you know

00:37:31.000 marxism we know this from all communist revolutionaries that you know the people that may have

00:37:35.580 started it will either end up in the gulag or will end up getting an ice pick to the heart and

00:37:40.080 the neck and everything else like that we see this and to watch it happen in america is depressing

00:37:45.820 because it's my own country and it's a shame to watch someone who voted and did the right thing to

00:37:50.820 be executed by allegedly her own side for that purpose and we're probably going to see more of that 0.96

00:37:57.600 as time goes on in ways that we have probably witnessed already there have already been

00:38:03.040 unquestionable deaths in the past in america that i'm sure were politically motivated over the last

00:38:08.080 20 years uh whether it's about anthrax threats about certain concerns about pieces of national

00:38:13.400 legislation or you know uh car accidents and things like that and lists of people that we'll never

00:38:18.900 probably see released to the light of day it does go to show that this is an ongoing trend in this

00:38:24.780 country and it will probably accelerate uh the days of rage you know we we talk about how bad j6 was

00:38:31.140 when it comes from the left i mean the leftists were bombing congress and were trying to kill as

00:38:35.560 many people as possible and let us not forget that bill clinton basically pardoned all of them

00:38:40.240 you know bill eyers and rosenberg and you know robin not robin d'angelo but i mean um

00:38:46.000 angela davis i'm sure i'm sure she does like let's not kid ourselves but like angela davis and the rest

00:38:50.960 of all these like radical leftists from the 60s and 70s from that time period you know they got off

00:38:55.400 scot-free they were rewarded for doing basically time served and writing books and doing things

00:39:00.900 like that the same thing will happen with this generation's form of leftists uh it's just that

00:39:05.320 american demographics have been so skewed since the 1960s due to the heart settler act and other forms

00:39:09.860 of amnesty that now it's a mix of ideological terrorism but also it's about making sure that

00:39:16.300 the ethnic patronage system of the democratic institutions continue it's the same thing that 0.61

00:39:21.500 we're witnessing now with the grooming gangs report in the united kingdom where the reports have

00:39:26.060 basically said with labor and other members of parliament that they traded girls for votes and

00:39:32.740 we're going to see the same thing here we have traded countless molly tibbetts and lakin riley so

00:39:37.280 the system can continue to perpetuate and it's about time that it comes to an end but when people vote to

00:39:42.640 do the right thing to come to an end the consequences are exactly like what happened with this state

00:39:47.120 representative this is that people will get the message to stay in line lest your life be threatened

00:39:52.140 i mean there are plenty of south uh american countries where if you vote against the cartel

00:39:57.620 or you vote against you know the gangs uh as a politician you're going to get shot like that's a

00:40:02.680 pretty common thing throughout a large chunk of of south america and now we're just bringing those

00:40:09.060 politics to the united states that that's now the way that you know that people are operating in the u.s

00:40:13.760 and there have to be consequences there have to be very serious consequences again these people have

00:40:20.200 networks those networks have names they have uh membership roles they have bank accounts uh you can

00:40:28.540 go after these people you do not have to let them uh just roll up this country uh when when j6

00:40:34.940 happened uh the democrats didn't oh well i guess uh we'll we'll just take a you know arrest one or two

00:40:41.140 bad actors no everyone's life was ruined they went after everyone who went into the building

00:40:46.300 well with a few notable exceptions i'll let you think about that uh they went after everyone uh

00:40:52.100 around the building people who never went inside the building people who weren't even in washington dc

00:40:57.140 got basically life sentences they went after every member of groups that organized it they destroyed

00:41:03.840 their lives bank accounts everything yeah you have to learn from this like there's a lesson to learn

00:41:12.640 here there there's a sign to tap and a lesson to be learned and that's that the left was not going

00:41:17.300 to stop until they get their own i mean we we we talk about a political ratchet you've talked about

00:41:22.120 it a great deal it's just that um force is you know to reference heineland you know it's the supreme

00:41:28.080 authority and the left understands this way better than the right uh because the left plays for keeps

00:41:33.200 and the the right plays very oftentimes for these uh lofty morally correct but i'm going to lose

00:41:39.500 positions it's only someone would write a book about you know these kind of losers that we have to deal 0.98

00:41:43.440 with but overall it just illustrates that this is where we're at in this country as we talked about

00:41:48.440 last week with the uh protests in los angeles and then of course now all these other protests and

00:41:54.140 killings this is that this is what is meant to be done if they couldn't stop him through the courts

00:41:59.160 if they can't stop him through congress if they can't stop him through the bureaucracy as we saw

00:42:02.740 in the first trump administration then the strategies that leftist terrorists and other

00:42:07.520 communist you know revolutionaries are going to use they're having no problem using it because they

00:42:12.720 know it works all right so the last thing we need to talk about is trump's unfortunate waffling on

00:42:19.020 immigration now i'd like to preface the preface this by saying donald trump says a lot of things

00:42:24.320 and he often you know changes his mind or he like kind of a b tests stuff throws it out there sees

00:42:31.420 what the reaction is going to be and then goes a different uh direction right and so uh i don't

00:42:37.000 want to take everything that donald trump says is gospel as as was wisely said about trump once you

00:42:42.140 should take him seriously but not literally that said unfortunately we've seen a repeated um

00:42:48.100 tendency of trump to to talk about how he might be softening on different aspects of the immigration

00:42:54.560 problem he's spoken as you pointed out previously about allowing uh even more chinese students into

00:43:01.020 the united states which is insane both because we know the chinese are actively using uh students to 1.00

00:43:07.220 you know gain intellectual property use them as spies uh insert them into critical companies and other

00:43:13.020 places inside the united states uh china owns farmland it owns commercial and and and residential

00:43:19.380 real estate across the united states none of this should be a reality you can't tell me that these

00:43:23.840 people are an existential threat to the united states and also we should be educating them inserting 1.00

00:43:28.120 them into our critical uh institutions and allowing them to own uh land across the united states one of

00:43:34.780 these things can't be true right like you have to make a decision either china's no threat and we don't 0.61

00:43:39.260 have to worry about it or they are a threat and none of these people should be here uh they

00:43:42.960 but it can't be both right and so uh that's been a huge problem he repeated that again this weekend

00:43:48.580 uh but the bigger problem is that obviously uh the trump administration started to go after

00:43:53.520 some real targets when it came to the deportation stuff right we we've talked about this repeatedly

00:43:58.920 and getting the criminals off the street that kind of stuff it's important yes absolutely but

00:44:04.280 ultimately you have to go after employers if there is no employment illegals will leave they just will 1.00

00:44:11.040 if they can't get jobs and they can't get benefits there's no reason for them to be here you know

00:44:15.300 everyone went after mitt romney for talking about self-deportation but there was just a story in the

00:44:20.240 new york post and uh their numbers were a little over the place so i don't know if this is 100 accurate

00:44:24.760 but i'm sure there is some degree of this it was claiming that a million illegals have already

00:44:29.500 self-deported due to the changes and and i'm sure that while that number is not 100 true i'm sure it's

00:44:36.880 very large because the key thing people have to understand is we were never going to deport

00:44:42.380 physically 30 million or whatever people who are actually here illegally that was never going to 0.91

00:44:47.500 happen however if you do physically deport the worst guys and you shut down all the avenues by which

00:44:53.180 people can benefit from illegal uh employment in the united states you will get a lot of self-deportations

00:45:01.080 you shut off the jobs you make them ineligible for any kind of benefits welfare or anything else

00:45:06.160 you make sure that remittances are highly taxed you make sure that if if they know that if they're

00:45:11.980 found out they will be thrown out immediately and that just reduces the incentive to come to and stay

00:45:17.280 in the united states and so the key on that is consistent messaging saying hey no matter what this is going

00:45:24.320 to happen but when you turn around and you start talking about carve outs for different groups right

00:45:30.680 because we we donald trump was saying well there are a lot of people in the in the the farmers we don't

00:45:35.360 want to go after the farmers because they have good workers and they've been here for a long time

00:45:38.980 and what about the you know the the hospitality industry and and they need this labor and it's

00:45:44.760 like no this is wrong on so many levels first uh the fact that you're carving out specifically uh you

00:45:51.080 know different industries means that obviously it's not about how long these people have been here or

00:45:55.020 what kind of great workers they are because you're just looking at particular industries you're not

00:45:58.880 looking at the individual and whether they love america and they're really just yearning to be free and

00:46:04.040 and become an american also it's very clear that you when you focus on these particular industries

00:46:10.740 we've already seen the raids against some of these like the the meat it was at the meat packing uh plant

00:46:16.880 in nebraska uh they had the major raid and there's already a story you know there's already stories being

00:46:22.380 run by the mainstream media how will these companies end up filling these jobs and in the very same story

00:46:28.140 it talks about just the hundreds of people piling in actual americans looking for jobs in those

00:46:34.800 industries it turns out that if you don't have a large amount of low wage labor that is illegal in

00:46:41.020 the united states eventually americans actually will do these jobs you might have to raise you know your

00:46:47.220 your your compensation there is a wage mechanism it's what it's for when there's supply and demand in the

00:46:52.440 labor market you might have to raise the wage because the amount of labor available is lower

00:46:57.980 but that's how it's supposed to work you're not supposed to be able to uh indefinitely cheat the

00:47:02.820 system and cheat the laws of supply and demand as a uh as a uh a company in the united states by

00:47:08.540 importing uh all this slave labor and so uh you know obviously if we just let the self-deportation

00:47:14.600 happens if we just keep raiding employers if we keep sending these people home and making it clear

00:47:19.060 you can't work in the united states is illegal they'll go home and americans will get their jobs 0.99

00:47:24.060 this isn't some theory this is not some abstract thing that we're putting together it's literally

00:47:28.680 happening as we speak the evidence is everywhere around us but instead we get trump waffling on this

00:47:34.100 stuff now he's walked it back he's talked about oh well actually i want to you know incredibly

00:47:38.520 increase the amount of ice and enforcement raids and these things but we need a consistent message we do

00:47:44.120 not need this waffling it needs to be very clear because it's the clarity of the message

00:47:48.220 that keeps people from coming to the united states yeah absolutely and i know that trump had

00:47:54.500 responded i guess to some of the criticism by giving some sort of uh announcement on truth

00:47:59.420 social yesterday evening saying that uh he has his unwavering support that they need to actually go

00:48:04.980 into um you know left-wing cities los angeles chicago new york where they mainly reside and the left

00:48:11.600 has been angry because trump recognizes that illegals will flock to the places where the state

00:48:16.560 will give taxpayer money to people who shouldn't be here and we've already seen the reaction i mean

00:48:21.540 regardless of how his rhetoric i think that it's important to understand and i'm sure the audience

00:48:27.800 is it's preaching to the choir but for those that might be a little more ambivalent on the issue

00:48:32.140 you have members of congress who came to this country after they were born who have been immigration

00:48:38.720 justice supporters all of their lives before getting elected into congress that have been advocating for

00:48:44.520 more things to their side there are town halls in minnesota right now that are given almost

00:48:49.360 explicitly in somali and not in any other language there are groups in here that have advocated and

00:48:54.980 will support the amnesty or any other project to keep the border open because they understand that

00:49:01.380 in order for their you know pathway to power and success means overwhelming actual real americans and

00:49:08.840 their ability to have a job and to do everything else during the biden administration we saw the same

00:49:13.760 the byproduct of the 2020 you know summer of floyd and all that was basically getting native-born

00:49:19.520 americans out of the workforce and making sure that immigrants and visa holders got here first or those 1.00

00:49:25.240 who were foreign born and now living in the country to do the same that's begun to change with native-born

00:49:30.300 workers according to places like the new york post which is where i think the self-deportation number

00:49:35.080 has come from but again this is about disempowering and atomizing americans and to make sure that there is no

00:49:42.320 sense of hope or any chance to actually resist this ongoing uh rising tide of revolution and

00:49:49.040 ethnic animus against the united states and its people so i think that again trump needs to double

00:49:54.540 down on this because if you select the donor class over the mandate in which you were elected by which is

00:50:02.520 to deport these people to make america a safer greater place as it once was in the past then everything

00:50:09.300 that the last 10 years since you've come down the escalator to do has been for naught unless some

00:50:15.100 action to get these people out of here and to make them feel uncomfortable in a place where they

00:50:20.200 shouldn't be to begin with happens and uh if he is very honest about what he had put on truth social

00:50:25.860 yesterday about telling every agency to go after them then let's see it because we that needs to happen

00:50:31.600 above all else well and to be clear you know normally this this kind of trump spouting off

00:50:37.700 about different topics and waffling a little bit here and there it wouldn't be as much of a disaster

00:50:41.780 because he kind of just does this on a regular basis but the problem is the context in which it's

00:50:46.320 happening right we see these riots happening in la we see the waving of these flags we see the screaming

00:50:52.100 of la raza we see the mexican president demanding that her people continue to disrupt the united states so 1.00

00:50:58.840 that they can send money back to keep the america the the mexican economy going basically treating

00:51:04.400 america as some piggy bank for mexico where they can park their people and extract money from us when 1.00

00:51:10.220 you see these things happening in real time you can't just turn around and give the left any narrative

00:51:14.780 where they're winning on this you can't because gasm gavin newsom took that initial tweet and said look

00:51:19.980 we're winning we're getting trump to back down and this is in the midst of all this violence so what the

00:51:25.980 left is learning again again is that if you go out and do violence you get what you want in america

00:51:32.640 the left gets to do violence the right does not if the right goes out and even thinks about a protest

00:51:37.960 that might get out of hand they will spend years in jail if the left does it nobody cares and in fact

00:51:43.920 often they get rewarded and what the left is seeing is yet again when we do violence we get what we want

00:51:49.160 you cannot send that message especially as donald trump donald trump has already seen

00:51:54.180 an entire election stolen from him due to this kind of stuff he cannot turn around and then be like

00:52:00.980 well maybe we'll dial down the immigration enforcement no again i'm glad he's pushed back

00:52:05.960 the other direction on this but we don't need waffling at this moment we need a unified clear

00:52:11.380 message that there is nothing you can do if you are a leftist who's trying to do violence in the united

00:52:17.520 states to advance the interests of illegal immigrants you are going to jail and or getting executed 0.98

00:52:23.280 depending on the severity of your crime as the law allows duly under the law that it needs to be the

00:52:30.080 message it does not need to be oh well you're you know might get a slight slap on the wrist i want to

00:52:34.900 see these guys doing serious jail time you lit a car on fire you're spending years in jail you're assaulting

00:52:40.680 a police officer years in jail that should be the message every single time never wavering and you

00:52:47.900 obviously should not dial down any of this enforcement in fact you should be increasing

00:52:52.540 it every time the left riots every time the red left pushes back you should show them that we are

00:52:57.800 only going to double down on a resolve on this issue this is the issue donald trump was elected to solve

00:53:02.720 not wars in the middle east not wars in you know uh between russian ukraine the thing that that

00:53:08.760 donald trump was elected to resolve is this issue and it should be the thing that he is 100 focused on

00:53:15.020 i mean this is the linchpin to all of the issues in which trump can successfully bring sort of an

00:53:21.520 american golden age back you know over the course of this week i know that a lot of merchant marine

00:53:27.520 and a lot of naval investors have been meeting uh for i think it's like 37th annual marine money week

00:53:32.800 or whatever and they've had everyone from you know wilbur ross who served in the first trump

00:53:36.880 administration to people talking about the need to invest in naval projects here in america and that

00:53:42.880 trump seems to be adamant to get it done i mean if we're going to be exporting things like liquid

00:53:47.300 natural gas if we're going to be quote drill baby drill this is a great time for us to you know

00:53:52.340 literally separate the we from the chaff when it comes to immigration and get americans back to work 0.82

00:53:57.300 again we have a terrible labor force participation rate that has only continued to get worse and yet

00:54:03.020 somehow we're allegedly a country of 330 some odd million people yet every major industry is struggling

00:54:09.880 to quote find workers i'd pardon me if i call bs on that every single industry in america could benefit

00:54:18.120 by getting rid of its own version of slave labor and realizing that the talent that actually wants

00:54:24.520 to work and succeed in this country is native born and has been here the whole time but instead we have

00:54:30.800 continued to witness for decades as trump had pointed out 10 years ago when he came down the escalator

00:54:36.140 that this has been a negative force for the country we have watched america be hollowed out from the

00:54:41.000 inside that america has witnessed its best and brightest hard workers war fighters and innovators

00:54:46.720 be shut out of the system from university all the way to the private sector and public sector

00:54:52.280 i mean you had pointed it out earlier this uh last week as well that you know raytheon one of the

00:54:57.500 most important defense industry sectors that we have in the united states has literal boards with hr

00:55:03.040 determining that you know white guys cannot get advances they can't get promotions and that they

00:55:07.920 should be the first ones that are up for cut despite the fact that those are the guys that actually get

00:55:11.900 things built and accomplished overall when it comes to the issues of re-industrialization putting

00:55:17.760 americans back to work doing all these things the pressure needs to be on every sector of the economy 0.90

00:55:22.660 to realize you will be rewarded handsomely if you actually hire american and continuing to go on the path

00:55:30.820 that we are on is only going to accelerate the destruction of this country and its ability to

00:55:35.700 project power abroad both on terms of hard power and soft power immigration is literally the linchpin 1.00

00:55:42.240 to all other issues that happen in this country absolutely all right guys well we're going to move

00:55:48.820 on to the questions of the people but before we do prudentialist where should people find your excellent

00:55:52.400 work well thank you orrin as always for having me on you can find me on as the prudentialist on

00:55:57.280 youtube just look for the little amphibian that you usually see on my twitter account at mr prudentialist

00:56:01.820 i have a really good article as well out today for the old glory club substack about the sort of 10

00:56:07.760 year anniversary of trump coming down the escalator to announce his candidacy if you're interested in

00:56:12.740 looking at that it's called trump 10 years on and then i will have a video out tomorrow on the subject

00:56:17.520 of propaganda and artificial intelligence as we've seen over the last couple of years when it comes to

00:56:23.100 warfare in politics so as always orrin thank you for having me on and let's go to those questions

00:56:28.000 absolutely kind of you to always save your best stuff for the old glory club by the way it always

00:56:33.520 seems to shine through on on the ogc substack particularly for some reason uh sawdog here just

00:56:39.040 with a donation thank you very much sir appreciate that uh fastcar77 says it says the prudentialist is

00:56:45.280 the prudentialist aware of the world war three prophecies by the orthodox saints i'm aware but uh i'm gonna

00:56:52.480 just letting god's plan play out uh michael robertson says an absolute tragic side effect of all the iran

00:57:01.180 stuff is that it's going to push people back towards the libertarians yeah well i mean i don't think a

00:57:07.300 lot of uh i don't to be honest you know there are of course some neocons or or you know talking heads

00:57:14.100 that are out there talking about the need to go to war with iran but honestly i i haven't met a single

00:57:19.220 trump voter who is interested in this war i really like i know i know this war is for and it's not for

00:57:26.120 the trump base and so i i just don't i i'm sure that there are some trump supporters who are just

00:57:32.160 ride and die cultic and they're just like no matter what trump does it must be good but honestly

00:57:36.480 every trump supporter i talk to every trump supporter i see that they don't want this right

00:57:41.700 and and they're you know they're happy that we haven't officially been involved with it so far

00:57:45.060 and they want to keep it exactly that way so uh maybe ultimately i guess that could push people

00:57:51.060 towards libertarians but i mean if trump can just stick to his commitments hopefully that's just not

00:57:55.780 the case yeah and i mean if jd vance's statement about we won't send you to war unless you absolutely

00:58:01.360 have to i hope that that's true i don't know if this will give libertarians a lot of pull uh

00:58:06.000 for instance i mean yes the anti-interventionism is always an important thing but uh let's not

00:58:11.220 remind ourselves that i think that if you talk to any trump supporter you know anyone who's like

00:58:15.540 full-on maca or whatever they're gonna have the same position that the libertarians do anyway which

00:58:19.840 is no needless foreign conflicts and interventionism but again we we need restraint in our foreign policy

00:58:25.380 i do believe in peace through strength but at the same time um i think that uh we uh need to put

00:58:30.820 ourselves in a position where you know the libertarians have too many other problems which is they don't

00:58:35.860 listen to their own uh visionaries you know like i think i said this literally the last time i was on

00:58:40.060 your show or and like just go read that lou rockwell report article by rothbard about

00:58:44.060 modal libertarians because that came true and that was 30 some odd years ago

00:58:48.100 senator uh brunfly says uh if iran if uh iran war happens and maga coalition fractures what becomes of

00:58:57.840 the new right oppose trump cheer on immigration policy without becoming neocon bedfellows well you know

00:59:04.180 this is unfortunately not the first time uh that a new right has been broken apart by the neocons

00:59:09.820 uh remember that you know there there are many uh paleo conservatives who uh broke away from the

00:59:16.260 reaganite movement over you know very similar issues uh now most of them continue to work inside

00:59:24.080 politics to some degree some of them you know got shoved to the outside there's very notably guys

00:59:29.520 like you know sam francis and paul gottfried who were in the wilderness uh for many years peter brimlow

00:59:34.820 these guys uh however uh hopefully that is not what would happen in this case and i do think because

00:59:40.440 uh the the base has become far more paleo uh conservative without recognizing that fact

00:59:46.980 i think it would be hard to completely shun uh the wide swath of mainstream figures like tucker

00:59:53.200 carlson and others that now openly oppose this stuff i think that the the thing in many ways that

00:59:59.040 separates republicans from the libertarians is that uh there are people inside the republican party who

01:00:04.520 oppose neoconservatism but understand that operating inside the party gives them more of a chance to

01:00:09.820 fight back against that not less so i don't think a lot of people will just jump ship and completely

01:00:14.840 abandon trying to influence the president in the right direction uh but this could you know if he really

01:00:19.320 did go to war with iran enthusiastically that that could permanently kill the coalition and um you know

01:00:25.420 that would be exactly the expected consequence of that kind of betrayal yeah i mean just ask all of

01:00:30.920 the guys from the new right papers in the 1980s after reagan got elected if they really had thought

01:00:36.280 that uh they were going to succeed and they thought that they did and a lot of people on this side of

01:00:41.060 the right definitely want things to succeed but the paleo cons were given the knife to the back and if

01:00:46.100 the same thing happens again i think that people like yourself or myself are always going to pressure

01:00:51.020 that the issues remain domestic and immigration will always be the first and foremost issue out

01:00:56.160 of all things because you can't have a country if it is speaking multiple languages at once sorry

01:01:00.720 mr cuomo it's not a it's not a strength to have 180 different languages spoken in your public schools

01:01:05.100 um so if trump moves this way i think that it becomes really important for this side of things not

01:01:10.320 to become an anti-woke neoconservatism as i've written about elsewhere in the past

01:01:14.800 florida henry says if we do invade iran how competent is the military after all that

01:01:20.680 uh happening in the biden administration yeah that that's a real concern as well right we purged

01:01:26.160 the u.s military of a large number of its most accomplished war fighters and strategists because

01:01:32.760 they were too loyal to trump or they voted the wrong way they were part of the national rifle

01:01:38.000 association they refused to take a shot that might harm them uh now i've heard uh that that has uh

01:01:44.860 many some of that has been rectified a lot of guys are getting back in recruiting numbers are back up

01:01:49.500 but ultimately uh again the fact as prudence just pointed out many times that we depleted our

01:01:55.140 munitions we put ourselves out there in a lot of different ways while trying to help out uh ukraine

01:02:00.180 and and uh just puts us in a position where i don't think we should test that you know it doesn't

01:02:06.420 mean that the united states military couldn't ultimately win that conflict but i don't even want

01:02:10.320 to find out like there's just no reason to even uh test those waters uh both both you know

01:02:15.960 on principle and just the logistics and reality of the situation yeah absolutely

01:02:22.100 philosophical thirstworm says america is becoming actually third world assassinations ethnic cabals

01:02:29.400 and deterritorializing or deteriorating standards uh for anything that you could have standards for

01:02:36.140 again uh you know i think there's a distance between us and your average third world country but

01:02:41.580 that distance is shortening every day uh and there's a good reason because we keep importing

01:02:45.880 the third world um so yeah like not surprising there uh i think it is pretty important that we arrest 1.00

01:02:54.040 the slide and that's again why it's so critical to simultaneously continue the deportations and punish

01:03:00.360 the left for their violence in opposition to them that's really the only way you're going to stop

01:03:04.800 from continuing to accelerate towards that third world destination yep it's like you said that there's a

01:03:11.560 rapidly closing gap every day and if we don't do something about it while we still have the

01:03:16.380 chance then it is an inevitability for the united states mel gibson after four beer says my dad was

01:03:22.820 so happy to get the total state thank you but i reminded of when i tried to red pill him on israel

01:03:28.060 how netanyahu threw trump under the bus in 2000 trump can do no wrong to boomers until it comes to

01:03:34.600 israel uh again you know by the way thanks for picking up the book glad he enjoyed it and uh i hope

01:03:40.700 he enjoys reading it uh and again i think the so the thing here that if you want to talk to

01:03:46.960 your average boomer about this you want to talk to your average fox news you're about this the framework

01:03:51.960 that exists that is powerful because it's true is america first okay that is the slogan for a reason

01:03:59.820 and it's how we should understand this conflict and so you don't have to argue against israel or

01:04:05.600 bb netanyahu or any of these things you don't need to have any animus towards this nation ultimately

01:04:10.440 all you need to say is this is not america i did that episode reading george washington's farewell

01:04:16.160 address talking about what type of foreign policy we should avoid and he specifically says do not

01:04:20.900 have special relationships with foreign nations because it will divide your nation it will give 1.00

01:04:25.100 foreign nations influence inside the united states it will create factions that support those foreign

01:04:31.200 nations instead of caring about what's happening in the united states and of course george washington

01:04:35.360 was 100 right you should just be focusing on what our founding father said and what the current

01:04:41.520 president promised that is enough you don't have to convince anybody about i know some people are like

01:04:46.320 i gotta you know israel's evil and i gotta convince every you don't need to do that it's just another 0.88

01:04:51.720 nation that isn't ours and should just be allowed to do what it's going to do without us we shouldn't be

01:04:57.940 stopping them we shouldn't be funding them we shouldn't be aiding them that's their business

01:05:03.000 now yahoo wants to start a war he can fight it that's it that should be easy enough i think even

01:05:08.780 the average boomer is going to look at that and say okay that that seems reasonable i think that that's

01:05:13.980 a line you can win with i agree uh philosophical thirstworm says uh i'm not a giant brain ashkenazi

01:05:23.720 but you think uh but would you think there's uh a driving uh they'd see that driving america into an

01:05:30.000 israeli war isn't going to lower the anti-semitism yeah i gotta say um for those telling me that

01:05:36.860 they're super worried about rising anti-semitism in the united states uh one thing you could stop

01:05:41.900 doing is telling us that we have to fight wars on behalf of israel uh that that probably isn't

01:05:48.100 helping the situation at all uh more more stephen miller less less bb netanyahu

01:05:53.000 um the logical mail says uh let me give you the political red pill republicans want illegals for

01:06:00.660 cheap labor democrats want illegals for welfare state such as medicare food stamps and so on yeah 0.79

01:06:04.660 this is exactly right uh this is the uniparty desire uh they both use different rhetoric but

01:06:09.840 they get to the same place uh republicans uh will talk about closing the border but they never do

01:06:14.660 they'll talk about the importance of legality but they never really care because ultimately walmart

01:06:19.620 can just pay illegal workers cheaper and that's what matters at the same time for the left it's

01:06:25.020 about the demographic change it's about getting more dependent voters on the rolls and ensuring that

01:06:30.360 ultimately after a generation or two it's impossible for them to lose an election and ultimately while it's

01:06:36.240 more short-sighted for the republican republicans than the democrats both parties are benefiting which is

01:06:42.340 why nothing ever changed when you got elected and that's why donald trump offering it and actually

01:06:46.580 doing part of it mattered so much uh so that's why he needs to continue along the lines he's promised

01:06:52.620 instead of folding back into the old republican two-step first word again i'm trying to hold

01:06:59.500 strong but i'm starting to black pill all policy breaks down uh breaks upon the shore of apac you can

01:07:05.380 make a coalition with zionists they get everything they want and you get nothing you want again there 1.00

01:07:10.740 should just not be any of this influence in the united states uh ultimately the united states

01:07:15.720 should be about its people uh it should be america first uh we should not have organizations that

01:07:21.080 lobby for foreign nations be they russia israel or anyone else uh and we should not be prioritizing

01:07:26.780 the interests of other countries again i'm just going to fall back to my i think very solid position

01:07:31.860 that i share george washington's foreign policy i think that's a pretty simple pretty easy thing to

01:07:38.320 understand founded in what you know the first president united states told us we should do i just don't

01:07:44.100 understand why we shouldn't be advancing that yeah factionalism was one of the earliest things

01:07:49.980 ever warned against in the formulation of our republic as we know it with the constitution i mean

01:07:55.160 lobbying and everything else like that it has only come at the expense of americans but simple as that

01:08:00.800 absolutely uh chris tisking says i will never uh i will never uh vote again until we get some

01:08:08.620 someone on the right uh to the right of mussolini uh well i i don't think you're going to be seeing

01:08:13.080 that anytime soon uh i do hope that ultimately trump delivers on his promises and this is what

01:08:18.960 you know people who are worried about the radicalization on the right or something like

01:08:22.420 that the way you stop that is by actually doing what you say you're going to do the thing that always

01:08:27.960 brings about the strong man the figure that everyone claims to be worried about is conservatives

01:08:33.400 right-wingers who are unwilling to act on the problems that are actually happening people get

01:08:37.880 desperate and they look for someone who will actually do something so if you're someone who's

01:08:41.840 worried about that if you're worried about that kind of statement well you should probably get

01:08:46.200 things done now so we don't get there but if you know you don't get there then eventually yeah

01:08:50.980 people are just going to want someone who makes the run the trains run on time i just want to be able

01:08:54.780 to go to the store down the street listen to people speaking my language without worrying about you

01:09:00.320 know my child getting stabbed without worrying about my wife getting attacked like these are basic

01:09:05.500 things people should expect in the united states and if they can't get them eventually they will

01:09:10.100 find someone who will give it to them yeah i mean you had said this clearly when you spoke to doug wilson

01:09:15.140 a couple of weeks ago the reason why you get franco the reason why you get mussolini is because the

01:09:19.380 moderate center-right people uh side with the left on the issues when it comes to push come to shove so

01:09:24.720 when those guys fail to do their job uh that's how you get the those characters so if anyone who is

01:09:29.560 a little concerned by that said super chat or comment or whatever well then consider who you side with

01:09:34.600 90 of the time yeah funny enough the people who are running around screaming woke right are the

01:09:39.220 people most likely to bring about exactly the phenomenon that they're warning you about because

01:09:44.300 they're telling all the political leaders whatever you do don't take real action to stop the bad things

01:09:48.840 happening in the united states because that would be woke or whatever garbage they're yelling about 0.97

01:09:52.940 they're the people who are warning about the incoming you know rise of fascism or nazism or whatever 0.85

01:09:57.840 but they're also the people who ensure it by making sure that american politicians never take the action

01:10:02.300 necessary to prevent things from getting even worse alex says what about the what about my slaves

01:10:10.560 left slash neocons yes the the question of who will pick the cotton is always the one they refer to

01:10:16.220 for some reason uh he also says i'm guessing the minnesota assassin's roommate best friend trolled the

01:10:22.020 the media story is too fishy yeah again it smells pretty badly but fog of war you know i try not to go

01:10:29.300 too hard in the paint when we just don't have the information this isn't the breaking news show

01:10:33.440 i don't get any credit for being first to these things uh so i'm not going to overstep my bounds

01:10:37.980 but i'm with you ultimately this does seem shady agreed

01:10:41.640 uh and he says uh alex says as bad as iran is uh their desperation uh elicits pity uh again yeah i'm not

01:10:53.480 going to worry too much one side or the other you know who's better or worse uh these are two foreign 1.00

01:10:59.120 nations uh they're hashing it out they're the ones that should hash it out that's my main concern

01:11:04.880 uh sean schaefer says uh most of my family and friends are in the military none of them want us

01:11:11.720 to go to war but we're giving up uh on the u.s military uh to these radicals yeah again uh i think a lot

01:11:19.040 of veterans are very tired a lot of current service members are very tired of uh being

01:11:24.460 deployed or uh going to everywhere except in the interest of the united states uh it's not that they

01:11:30.180 aren't willing to fight but they'd like to fight for something that matters that's actually in the

01:11:33.860 interest of them and their family that's what they signed up for i hear this from many many uh

01:11:38.440 veterans of the global war on terror uh and if we do this again it's going to be another generation

01:11:42.760 of uh military men who are placed in terrible situations on behalf of countries that are not

01:11:50.060 their own uh who will come back resentful uh just like many people did when it came to the global war

01:11:55.660 on terror and i really would hate to see that yeah born born too late to fight in the middle east born

01:12:01.120 too early to fight in the middle east born just in time to fight in the middle east yeah uh if there's

01:12:05.780 ever been a great amount of radicalization it has been every time our troops come home after some war

01:12:10.940 in a foreign land that hates us and i think we saw that already there's a video of some vet

01:12:15.560 that had talked about what he had saw overseas and you had you know foreigners telling him to go back

01:12:20.280 where he came from buddy he's home you go back where you came from i mean we we we cannot have our

01:12:26.200 our our blood our treasure and everything else about what makes america great uh wasted on conflicts

01:12:31.840 that have destroyed countless communities inside those places i mean we've eradicated more or less

01:12:37.460 all of christendom since in in the birthplace of where you know christ's ministry began more or less

01:12:42.780 uh because of our adventurism in in the middle east so that's just one excuse that you can give but

01:12:47.940 also like how many guys have we sent off to die only for us to go watch on the news later the taliban

01:12:53.320 ruling afghanistan again i can't repeat the things my father said who served in the military when we

01:13:00.080 witnessed our pullout of afghanistan under the biden administration because it would get this

01:13:04.280 show canceled so let's not do that let's not alex says uh colonization from rome to europe to the

01:13:11.740 world has been a great gift of history the average westerner doesn't know how chaotic the third world

01:13:16.400 is well that is most certainly sure that they do not understand how bad things can be uh so they keep 0.98

01:13:22.980 moving towards them unfortunately uh life of brian says trump's uh idiocy has one upside in 2028 when the 0.98

01:13:29.160 dims get a newsome trifecta they will jail trump and no one will lift a finger um okay uh i don't know 0.95

01:13:37.300 um i i really don't think that that's probably going to be the end uh of what will happen there but

01:13:42.880 uh i guess i see what you're saying uh machiavellous uh it says let's face it hitler was pro-white the

01:13:52.400 allies were not okay thank you uh and joshua bb says gentlemen interesting times have a drink on

01:14:00.780 me well thank you very much sir appreciate that all right guys let's go ahead and wrap this up thank

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The Auron MacIntyre Show - June 16, 2025

Nothing Ever Happens： War, Assassination, Riots ｜ Guest： The Prudentialist ｜ 6⧸16⧸25

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