The Auron MacIntyre Show - One in FOUR High Schoolers Identify as LGBTQ ｜ Guests： Logan Hall and the Prudentialist ｜ 4⧸28⧸23

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00:00:30.000 Hey everybody, how's it going?

00:00:31.480 Thanks for joining me this afternoon.

00:00:33.500 I've got a great stream with some great guests that I think you're really going to enjoy.

00:00:38.020 We got some very interesting news.

00:00:40.100 We've seen the steady advance of the Rainbow Coalition.

00:00:43.540 An interesting rise in the numbers there.

00:00:46.420 And a new study is telling us now that one in four high schoolers

00:00:50.720 are now identifying as some form of LGBTQ.

00:00:55.000 We're going to get into that here.

00:00:56.640 Joining me today is The Prudentialist.

00:00:59.080 Thanks for having me on again.

00:01:01.420 Absolutely.

00:01:02.100 And from new founding, Logan Hall.

00:01:04.700 Thank you so much.

00:01:05.920 I love the intro.

00:01:08.000 No, absolutely.

00:01:08.620 I'm glad you were able to come back.

00:01:11.140 Had you a while back, but glad you're able to join us once again.

00:01:15.980 So we're just going to go ahead and jump right into it, guys.

00:01:18.780 As many of you might have heard, a study from the CDC is now showing that almost one quarter,

00:01:26.180 it's like 24.5% of high schoolers are now identifying as, again, some form of LGBTQ.

00:01:35.140 The breakdown, I believe, have it here.

00:01:38.240 It's 12% as bisexual, 5.2% as questioning, 3.9% as other, and then 3.2% as gay or lesbian.

00:01:48.760 Also, 1.8% said they didn't understand the question, which I really appreciate there.

00:01:53.740 But it's very interesting, of course, because we have seen this number grow and grow over the years.

00:02:01.520 It went from 11% back in, or I think it was 2015, 2016, all the way up to now this quarter,

00:02:10.520 this 25% number that we're seeing in this data is from 2021.

00:02:15.140 Now, of course, we know that the idea was supposed to be that this was born this way, right?

00:02:22.200 That this is something that's an immutable characteristic.

00:02:25.300 It's just like being, well, male or female, which I guess is no longer supposed to be an immutable characteristic.

00:02:31.740 In fact, funny enough, it seems like the only biologically immutable characteristic now is race.

00:02:38.260 You can't be Rachel Dalzal, you can't be a trans black woman, but you can, you know, change everything else about you. 0.99

00:02:46.740 But, of course, the story about this was that this is always supposed to be something that was unchangeable,

00:02:53.040 and that was why everyone kind of had to accept it, because this is just a biological fact inborn in people.

00:02:59.320 Now we see this incredibly steady rise.

00:03:02.100 Prudentialist, I don't think there's a lot of surprise here for many of us,

00:03:05.420 but what do you think about this sudden, you know, doubling or more than doubling of teenagers identifying like this in just five, six years?

00:03:16.400 Yeah, I'm glad that you sort of prefaced that with a surprise bit.

00:03:18.880 I feel like every time I come on, I say something along the lines of I'm not surprised anymore.

00:03:24.620 No, I think that this is a predictable response when we see the broader culture and legal incentives provided to identify a certain way,

00:03:35.100 and that when we provide social incentives and agreeableness and welcome towards certain types of groups,

00:03:41.480 and they disparage others, that you want to flock towards the way to identify them.

00:03:46.440 And I think it kind of is convenient that there is sort of this dysgenic and an unfortunate identity that is out there for people to adopt to, 0.98

00:03:55.540 or fling and cling on to, in the midst of widespread sort of racial animosity towards white individuals.

00:04:03.020 And so what gives them a better way out than to identify in some form or fashion under the Rainbow Coalition?

00:04:09.380 That way they have their own form of minority and protected status and can rank up there on, quote unquote,

00:04:15.960 the oppression Olympics, as they used to say, and they have a way to get out of it.

00:04:19.980 And when it's in schools, when it's in public libraries, when there's parades and holidays and things that local government that support it,

00:04:27.800 the incentives are going to tell young people who respond to incentives the most,

00:04:31.580 especially because their brains aren't as developed, by all means, identify this way, engage in these kind of risky behaviors,

00:04:37.540 and you will be rewarded both legally, socially, and potentially with employment or spokesperson-type jobs

00:04:44.220 that we see with individuals like Dylan Mulvaney and the rest.

00:04:47.240 Yeah, and I'm glad you brought that up because somebody coined the phrase today, white identity flight,

00:04:53.260 which I think is a pretty good way to kind of sum this up.

00:04:56.760 You've got a lot of white progressives out there, and they all know that you're not, that's not good.

00:05:02.660 You're not supposed to do that. You're one of the evil people. You're one of the bad people. 0.99

00:05:05.860 Original sin baked right into your skin color, and that's going to put you on the bottom of that progressive stack. 0.99

00:05:10.580 So if you're a good liberal and you need to find a way to elevate yourself, I mean, you just don't want to sit around being the oppressor class.

00:05:18.320 You've got to find some way to identify as one of the holy ones.

00:05:21.920 And so what do you do? Well, I mean, you're not allowed to change your race now.

00:05:26.340 Rachel Dalzell has shown us that.

00:05:28.380 So what do you do? Well, you identify as some form of bisexual or pansexual or some kind of reassignment of your gender that doesn't require too much commitment, hopefully.

00:05:42.020 Maybe you just get to color your hair differently, wear some androgynous clothing.

00:05:47.540 All of a sudden, you're right back in the mix. You're at the top.

00:05:49.520 You've climbed the social ladder, and you can once again have a role of leadership in kind of the progressive stack.

00:05:56.120 Logan, what's going on with the storyline here, though, right?

00:05:59.320 Like, we know, again, this was supposed to be something that was innate, and all of a sudden, it's something that everyone seems to be able to adopt.

00:06:06.380 What happened to that storyline? They just discard it? They don't need it anymore?

00:06:09.880 Is there some kind of underlying explanation?

00:06:12.960 Well, things certainly happen fast, don't they?

00:06:16.120 What's interesting from the study is that, you know, it's about 25%, one in four, that identify as something other than heterosexual.

00:06:26.280 But in the data, it said only about 6% max had actually had sexual experiences with someone of their same sex.

00:06:36.500 So that means there's 19% that's just using this as a status symbol.

00:06:42.500 Like he said, people respond to incentives.

00:06:46.280 And the funny thing is, you know, they swear that it's just, oh, they're born this way, we have to do it.

00:06:54.160 But then every single part of our culture is geared towards making sure that it's not really a nature argument, right?

00:07:05.480 It's a nurture thing.

00:07:06.500 They're trying to propagandize from the highest levels of government, from media, from culture.

00:07:12.520 You get rewarded for this identity symbol.

00:07:16.840 And the funniest thing is now you're starting to see some backlash with, oh, LGB without the T, whatever else.

00:07:26.880 The rainbow flag is starting to eclipse all the new identities that they have ginned up now are starting to eclipse the original rainbow.

00:07:36.340 So there's like, there's all these different symbols and, and it's starting to almost to look like just one giant blob for all these different identities to come under.

00:07:48.380 And it's very interesting to see how quickly we've gone from that original, you know, 20 years ago, you had Hillary Clinton and Obama making arguments against all of this stuff.

00:08:02.340 And now it seems like every day from the White House press briefing room, they're bragging about their latest LGBT initiatives.

00:08:10.800 And it seems like the only thing they really talk about.

00:08:13.160 So it certainly has, this revolution has eaten up the government and our culture, and it's probably not going to stop anytime soon.

00:08:23.920 So, yeah, I wouldn't be the first to point out that, you know, the, the new flag of the empire is very, very clearly that constantly mutating one that you're referencing there.

00:08:34.600 Some, some new ideology, some new subgroup, some, you know, a little square or circle or something that has to get shoved into it every, you know, six months.

00:08:44.300 You got to, the great thing is it's, it's great for flag sales, right?

00:08:47.940 Like the, there, it's a, it's an economic stimulus package.

00:08:51.460 You know, every, you got to swap out every, every embassy needs a brand new flag every six months as you add the next group.

00:08:57.220 You know, if you're, if you're not flying the, you know, the LGBTQ plus flag over Somalia, are you even America at this point?

00:09:04.060 And so, and so you, you can kind of make sure that those flag manufacturers stay in business, probably in China, but you know, but that said, I'm glad that you dug into the data there because I was going to bring that up too.

00:09:18.980 It's very revealing, right?

00:09:20.540 It's very revealing to the types of incentives that Prudentialist was talking about there.

00:09:24.980 We've got the, you know, the number of, you know, this, this 24.5% that say they've, they've identified as LGBTQ, but if you look into the numbers, so, you know, the vast majority of high schoolers still not having, you know, sex at this point, but 34.6 have had some kind of sexual contact with the opposite sex.

00:09:45.360 So heterosexual, sexual contact, only 6% identify, say that they've had any contact with both sexes and only 2.4% say they've only had contact with the same sex.

00:09:58.940 Okay. Yeah.

00:09:59.420 So my data was off there.

00:10:00.540 Well, no, you're, you're right.

00:10:01.680 6% says is with both, but only 2.4, 2.4% is with only one, which means 6% are having some kind of bisexual contact, but only 2.4% are having completely gay, you know, 0.53

00:10:14.760 homosexual contact, which means that that 2.4% is roughly close to what most accurate estimates look at as the actual gay population.

00:10:28.240 So funny enough, if you drill down into the data, we can see that the revealed behavior is the same.

00:10:36.180 It hasn't changed.

00:10:37.200 Only about 2.4% are still manifesting actively homosexuality.

00:10:42.940 But 25% want to be seen as this identity, right?

00:10:49.480 Which again, just, just speaks to Prudentialist and his point about incentives there.

00:10:54.580 Now, Prudentialist, you did an excellent thread on the political implications of this data.

00:11:02.200 When you did this thread, funny enough, it was, it was really prescient because it was just before this study came out.

00:11:07.280 And we already knew this trend was coming.

00:11:08.660 So you kind of saw a lot of this, but you talked about what this means politically, what this data means and how it affects the electoral map.

00:11:17.700 Can you talk a little bit about that?

00:11:19.360 Absolutely.

00:11:19.760 So one of the things that really stuck out to me was actually the 2022 midterm elections, because regardless of the results, there was a report by Politico in October of 2022 that had said,

00:11:32.500 according to the Human Rights Campaign and Bowling Green State University in Kentucky, based on the data from the U.S. Census Bureau,

00:11:38.300 they find that by 2030, approximately one in seven voters will be LGBTQ.

00:11:44.040 The researchers expected that share will grow to nearly as one in five by 2040.

00:11:48.640 So these sort of cultural, political issues that we see are not going away anytime soon.

00:11:54.580 It is a classic style of political patronage.

00:11:57.540 Some might call it selectorate theory, where we see individuals who want to get elected or maintain power have to cater to certain groups in order to maintain that power.

00:12:06.580 And so these sort of wedge issues about whether or not a man can be a woman or that, you know, the bathroom issues like we were seeing even beforehand in 2014 and 2015,

00:12:17.040 these things are only going to continue as this widespread amount of people are responding to incentives.

00:12:24.760 And the thing is, is that it's not going to just affect sort of the traditional, you know, stock of America's political voters.

00:12:31.260 It's not going to just affect white voters or black voters.

00:12:33.560 It's going to affect everyone that comes in here.

00:12:35.300 I mean, there was a recent study that had indicated that most Muslims inside of the United States have relatively pro-gay attitudes,

00:12:42.080 which is, you know, the cornerstone of the exact opposite of what they may have been in the old country.

00:12:47.740 And so what we're seeing now is, is that with this growing population, whether they are actually committing homosexual acts or not, 0.72

00:12:54.980 illustrates that, you know, you can create this sense of immediacy, the sense of danger.

00:12:59.280 You know, back in 2012, you know, 20 plus years or 10 plus years ago, you saw that Vice President Joe Biden would tell black voters that Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan were going to put black people back in chains.

00:13:11.240 And now that sort of same sense of immediacy can now be used with sort of a genocidal attitude.

00:13:16.340 There's a new trans victim or a new black trans individual murdered, despite the fact that they are a very small number of the murders overall.

00:13:23.880 And this leads to people overestimating how important this issue is or how many of them are actually part of the United States population.

00:13:30.420 And it gets reinforced in the culture.

00:13:32.420 I mean, we went from less than a decade between the original series run of Will and Grace to the beginning of I Am Jazz on TLC and to the cultural revolution that came in in around 2012, 2014.

00:13:44.140 And so everything that we're seeing here is totally changing the nature of how ordinary people engage.

00:13:51.260 Mary Harrington has a great book about, you know, feminism against progress, talking about this cyborg theocracy where we can just interchange our parts here and there. 1.00

00:13:59.720 People are going to see these as serious political issues with patronage networks, with millions of dollars going into NGOs,

00:14:06.240 and even not millions more going into social engineering that's been going around since the days of, you know, Wilford Bayon and the Tavistock Institute.

00:14:14.360 So this is going to have a longstanding impact on how whatever form of democracy survives in this country, it'll play a large role in that for the decades to come.

00:14:23.020 Yeah, it's a really powerful strategy, right?

00:14:25.440 You incentivize this identity, you assign this identity.

00:14:29.520 And even though most of these people aren't acting on this identity, they're not actually living it out in any significant or meaningful way,

00:14:38.940 they still see it as something that is existential for them because it is what has given them their uniqueness, right?

00:14:45.600 This is your personality.

00:14:47.040 This is your identity.

00:14:48.760 This is your consumer base.

00:14:50.440 This is your friend group.

00:14:52.080 And so it becomes something that must be defeated.

00:14:55.020 And when you have one side that is the absolute champion of this at every opportunity, and the other side that is, let's be honest,

00:15:02.680 desperately attempting to play some kind of catch up on this issue and provide no real counter narrative to it,

00:15:09.260 then you end up in a situation where you're just infinitely driving the bus with a section of the electorate that can always be expanded at any time.

00:15:18.000 Logan, what does the right do with this?

00:15:20.720 I mean, it feels like the left is on just another level.

00:15:25.080 They are socially engineering.

00:15:26.880 I mean, we already know open borders, that kind of thing.

00:15:29.760 The Democratic Party is very aware of the need to select their voters and manufacture their voters in any way possible.

00:15:37.900 But I don't think Republicans and the GOP, the right in general, are even familiar with the level of social engineering going on here,

00:15:44.720 much less how to combat this in a Democratic environment.

00:15:47.780 100 percent, yes.

00:15:50.180 I agree with Prudentialist.

00:15:51.960 This is it's just I mean, it's very advanced coalition building.

00:15:56.440 The funny thing that you realize, not really in red states like Florida or Texas,

00:16:04.980 but when you're in D.C., and I know this from experience, having lived there for three years,

00:16:11.820 when you see a lot of the Republican think tanks and their staffers on the Hill,

00:16:19.820 it's kind of this trope like they're almost gayer than the Democrats, at least in D.C.,

00:16:26.200 because Republicans are just so desperate to not be labeled some hate, some hateful bigot or some sort of whatever phobe is the next thing

00:16:37.780 that they preemptively try to self-select these people so that they can shield themselves from these criticisms that they're so afraid of in the media.

00:16:47.420 So, yeah, you're right.

00:16:48.920 They're completely out of touch, but they don't really have an answer to this either,

00:16:52.460 because they kind of just shift the way the wind blows.

00:16:59.280 And it's obvious that this ideology has pretty much I mean, it's kind of like that photo that I know you've said this or on before,

00:17:07.280 but it's kind of like you've kind of been conquered by this ideology.

00:17:10.280 That's what our entire foreign policy is based around now.

00:17:13.160 Democracy is basically just a filler word for bringing bringing homosexuality or transgenderism to all the different corners of the world. 0.86

00:17:25.360 And a lot of Republicans, their interests are aligned in such a way that, yeah, they might personally oppose it,

00:17:32.960 but they're not going to oppose, let's say, the media in any real effective way or the foreign policy establishment in any real effective way.

00:17:39.940 So if you're not prepared to take on those things, you're really not going to be prepared to take on this ideology.

00:17:46.920 And what do you think, Prudentials?

00:17:48.320 I mean, obviously, you're laying out the electoral consequences here, but what about the social engineering at this point?

00:17:55.700 I mean, is there any approach that kind of break this stranglehold?

00:18:00.620 What are the centers of this social engineering that is incentivizing this behavior?

00:18:05.080 What do people on the right need to be aware of that is kind of driving this identity and its kind of installation in the minds of young people?

00:18:14.600 Well, it's pretty darn pervasive, to say the least.

00:18:17.260 I think what would be important for anyone to realize, whether they're, say, under 30, such as myself,

00:18:22.180 or parents that are wanting to know how on earth they're going to raise their kids in this mess,

00:18:27.000 is that for right now, what we have seen is that it is almost pretty ubiquitous in respects to the online media culture.

00:18:36.080 You know, we've seen sort of what would be called like the mainstream of Tumblr being put out in every form of social media, Twitter, Reddit, etc.

00:18:43.500 And that you have to be rather vigilant.

00:18:45.860 We cannot be those kind of parents that you might see at a Walmart or any other kind of grocery store

00:18:50.880 where they give their kids the phone instead of, you know, interacting with them.

00:18:55.440 I think that that sort of unsupervised access is certainly there,

00:18:59.360 alongside of sort of reintroducing the fact that, you know, not everybody out there wishes to do well for you.

00:19:05.800 I mean, we were talking about this before we went live, but, you know,

00:19:08.560 everything that we've discussed on the right on this sort of issue goes back to a lot of complaints that Phyllis Shafley made. 0.95

00:19:14.580 You know, she was concerned about the Equal Rights Amendment affecting women's sports and athletics. 0.88

00:19:17.900 She claimed in 1975 that liberals would want to put men into women's sports. 1.00

00:19:22.680 And lo and behold, that has definitely become true.

00:19:24.820 And the same way that she had called it out quite clearly, like this isn't something that breeds normally.

00:19:29.440 It's recruited and we provide incentives to do so.

00:19:32.260 So being aware of what media openly supports this and celebrates these kind of secular homosexual holy days 0.79

00:19:40.740 or making sure that your kids are aware of the fact that there are places that you don't want to go to.

00:19:46.100 I mean, if you're a parent out there listening and your child is a Reddit user,

00:19:50.440 I would be very concerned if they're on a place called Egg IRL,

00:19:53.420 which basically is to promote grooming and indoctrination into people thinking that they're transgender.

00:19:58.280 These things are very pernicious.

00:20:00.440 And if the number of individuals that have made life-altering consequences are now regretting their decisions

00:20:05.140 and speaking out against it, parents should be increasingly concerned about that.

00:20:09.500 And I think that that's something that, you know, ordinary people can do.

00:20:12.020 But from a legislative standpoint, I think it really needs to be said that when a place like Florida says

00:20:18.720 that if you're going to molest a child or engage in sexual acts with a minor,

00:20:24.020 that that's liable for the death penalty as they're proposed with their new law.

00:20:27.220 And to see the outrage that this is a quote-unquote sort of transgenocide or LGBT violence,

00:20:33.220 it really does raise the important question,

00:20:36.120 what on earth are you so concerned about trying to molest or be around young children anyways?

00:20:40.520 And so I think just a good, common, rational sense of judgment that

00:20:45.220 if someone looks like they shouldn't be near your child, keep your child away from them.

00:20:49.800 Yeah, the old, you know, battle beagle.

00:20:53.560 Stranger danger, you know, like that.

00:20:57.640 Yeah, no, it's the old battle beagle question.

00:21:00.480 You know, don't ask why kids want to see drag queens. 1.00

00:21:03.140 Ask why drag queens want an audience of kids. 1.00

00:21:04.960 So, Logan, obviously we had this controversy around the phrase Gruber, right?

00:21:13.080 Like this was the left lost their mind as this became a phrase that was used regularly.

00:21:20.240 Even people on the right said you can't use this, it's too aggressive, blah, blah, blah.

00:21:24.860 There was a huge snapback to this.

00:21:27.080 I mean, when you look at this data, it's hard to come to other conclusions, right?

00:21:34.620 Like I've seen some people defend this, you know, some of the stories that were written on this,

00:21:39.400 because, of course, all these stories are celebratory, right?

00:21:42.020 We have the celebration parallax.

00:21:43.980 You're allowed to notice as long as you're celebrating. 0.95

00:21:46.540 But if you notice and you disagree, then, well, there's a conspiracy theory and you're a hateful bigot.

00:21:51.320 But some of them had said, oh, well, really, you know, a quarter of the population was always LGBTQ.

00:21:58.380 And this has just allowed them, you know, to suddenly realize that.

00:22:04.140 Do you think all first graders, a quarter of all first graders were LGBTQ this whole time?

00:22:09.900 Or was something else involved?

00:22:12.080 Yeah, definitely touching on what Prudentialist said there.

00:22:15.240 I think it's important that people on the right realize that this movement, they don't have children.

00:22:21.980 They rely on converting yours. 0.86

00:22:24.660 So that's number one.

00:22:26.480 You can't just – people on the right need to recognize that.

00:22:31.880 And number two is like, well, yeah, they enacted – they did the death penalty thing in Florida for pedophiles.

00:22:41.400 And then suddenly the gay pride parade was canceled.

00:22:45.820 What's going on there?

00:22:47.720 I don't know.

00:22:50.280 But, yeah, I think it's very – not just the CDC study, but there's a really good Axios chart showing by generation the amount of people who identify.

00:23:02.220 And I posted this multiple times before.

00:23:04.600 But it's very shocking.

00:23:05.880 And you show this to – I remember showing this to my grandma, and she just couldn't believe it.

00:23:11.460 I mean, so I don't think the populations have changed.

00:23:15.920 I think it's probably, as you said toward the beginning of the show, it's probably around the same percentage that it was back then.

00:23:23.520 But now we've decided to not just encourage it, but obviously reward it.

00:23:30.440 And so people are – young kids are learning that this is good, and you're going to get a step up in the corporate world or in the government.

00:23:39.480 And that's – you don't even have to call it grooming.

00:23:43.740 You can just call it encouraging and rewarding the identity.

00:23:47.840 But either way, yes, that's what it is at the end of the day.

00:23:50.680 Yeah, and again, this is why I think the term social engineering is something that the right has to grasp.

00:23:57.580 It really needs to get this.

00:23:59.640 The left – so democracy is not a fair system, okay?

00:24:03.340 Democracy is not just where everybody gets together and, you know, what are the best ideas?

00:24:09.040 We'll sort them out in the marketplace.

00:24:10.600 And once the best ideas have been selected, the enlightened population will vote for the things that they most love, and then those things will be enacted by the government that has been selected.

00:24:22.580 Guys, I'm sorry.

00:24:23.400 That's just not how anything works here, okay?

00:24:26.460 The Democrats are aware that the best thing that you can do is to create the type of voters who will select the things you want, shape the opinions, shape the population, shape the identity of that population and its predilections, and then make sure that those things are all ideologically aligned with your goals.

00:24:48.320 They understand this at a very fundamental level, and if you're still trying to play politics by, you know, making sure that the facts don't care about your feelings and bring in the debate club, like, you're going to lose.

00:25:01.180 Like, you're going to get trounced.

00:25:02.880 Every time, it drives me nuts.

00:25:04.920 I just see people say, oh, well, this stuff isn't popular.

00:25:08.040 This stuff isn't – this isn't what the people want.

00:25:10.200 Like, who cares?

00:25:12.420 When has that ever mattered?

00:25:14.480 If you watch the just unbroken string of victories that the trans movement has put up in, like, three years, despite being incredibly unpopular in every way, and you still believe that popular sovereignty dictates politics in your country, I don't know what to tell you. 0.76

00:25:33.880 Like, I'm sorry, but you've got to get it together.

00:25:36.340 And the right has to grasp this.

00:25:39.100 As long as democracy, as long as voting is what drives our political system, you've got to get in the game, and the game right now is social engineering.

00:25:49.760 It's making sure that the electorate is interested and defined by the policies and the issues that you want to advance.

00:25:58.160 That means you've got to have a game where you are able to set the agenda, where you are able to drive the incentives, where you are able to define the ideology, the phrasing, the framing, and the identity that is going to drive votes.

00:26:13.980 And if you're not doing that, you're just not even in the ballgame.

00:26:17.020 You can complain about Bud Light all you want, but this is where the action is, okay?

00:26:21.940 As both of these gentlemen have pointed out, these people who don't actually act, these kids who don't actually act out these identities, have adopted them for a reason.

00:26:31.400 Because they bring manifest benefits, because there's a patronage relationship, because there's an identity that these people are holding to that they understand creates benefits, because they're delivered by a specific political party and a specific political movement.

00:26:47.140 And if your group isn't doing this, and another group is, if your side isn't doing this, and the other side is, you're just going to get blown out of the water every single time.

00:26:56.640 It's a joke.

00:26:57.380 You've got to be able to figure this out.

00:26:59.380 And if you don't, you deserve to lose.

00:27:01.420 If you cannot get on board with this, if you can't figure this out, if you are not able to keep pace with this, then you're going to get blown out.

00:27:07.760 And you deserve to, because you simply refuse to understand the nature of the contest.

00:27:14.140 It's just insane.

00:27:15.020 That said, I wanted to point out the other really disgusting thing that has happened here recently, which is the DOJ.

00:27:25.840 The DOJ is now challenging Tennessee's law and its ability to restrict the medical transition, and it's just mutilation, of minors inside its borders.

00:27:38.960 So Tennessee, according to the Department of Justice, does not have the right to restrict the surgical abuse and mutilation of children because it violates their 14th Amendment right.

00:27:51.280 That's correct, guys.

00:27:52.640 It's the Civil Rights Revolution.

00:27:54.780 The Civil Rights Revolution says that you cannot protect children inside your state, that your children have a civil right to mutilation by a medical professional.

00:28:04.820 And so it's the Equal Protection Clause, the most dangerous thing ever placed in the Constitution, the most blank check ever written to the total state that is inside the 14th Amendment that is now being cited by the DOJ.

00:28:19.740 Logan, you sent this to me first when you saw it.

00:28:23.000 What do you think about this?

00:28:25.140 Well, I think it would be who it would behoove of conservatives to realize that the old Constitution is pretty much dead and gone.

00:28:36.420 I mean, aside from maybe the Second Amendment and some First Amendment liberties, it's pretty much dead and gone.

00:28:44.660 I think the way that we could effectively combat some of this is if we use civil rights law for our own purposes.

00:28:55.120 Now, maybe you might disagree with that, Oren.

00:28:57.640 I don't know.

00:28:58.180 But I think at least one of them would be like having digital rights.

00:29:02.260 What Elon has done on Twitter, you used to be able to get suspended on a whim just for calling a biological man a man.

00:29:11.180 So I think one thing conservatives can do is push hard for platform access as a civil digital right after this technological revolution.

00:29:20.220 I think another thing we need to get better at, kind of going back to your point, Oren, is we've got to get a lot better at our own propaganda and then we have to get a lot better at our own sort of organizing.

00:29:35.380 So this is, you know, this is something that this is one of our missions at New Founding.

00:29:38.780 But like you said, popular sovereignty isn't really a thing.

00:29:42.960 This is an organized, a very, very organized and unrelenting minority on the left that's pushing this and that is controlling their party with this movement.

00:29:54.680 And so I think one of the things the right can do is you're going to have to get a lot better at organizing.

00:30:00.880 And you have to you also have to know that this is not going to let up.

00:30:06.440 If you even if you just saw the the mass shooter at the school in Nashville, the trans mass shooter that left a manifesto and then zero zero media wondering why that happened or asking questions about the killer's motives to simultaneously, a couple of days later, they are celebrating this national trans day of visibility.

00:30:31.720 Right. Like the trans people are the greatest thing that have ever happened to them. 1.00

00:30:35.800 And that would be OK, because I know that they're they're going to do this regardless if they wouldn't have just completely ignored the mass shooting or celebrated the murder of Christian children. 0.99

00:30:46.440 Right. But they did that right after.

00:30:48.360 And so that was that should be a a an awakening for people on the right to what we're up against here.

00:30:55.600 Yeah, it's it's absolutely insane that this comes on the heels of the violence by a trans shooter in Tennessee like this is very clearly timed right after this.

00:31:10.240 Right. So we have we have someone who goes in and let's be clear, like, you know, to just go go further, Logan, the media.

00:31:19.380 It's not that they it's not that they didn't ask why the trans shooter did this, they immediately ascribed motive to the shooter and they approved of it. 0.89

00:31:27.880 Right. Like they immediately came out and said, Tennessee passed this law and this is why basically like you deserve this, like you earned this because you did it.

00:31:38.100 Then the media was unashamed to immediately come out and attack Tennessee and other states who would protect children in this way and say you earned this because of your actions here.

00:31:48.140 So it's even worse, like like it would be one thing if they hadn't even focused on, you know, if they just did the gun control two step where they're like, oh, you know, let's not focus on the identity of the shooter.

00:31:58.160 Let's not focus on the motivation. We got to ban all the whatever, whatever, whatever.

00:32:01.920 But that's not even what they did. They directly leaned into the identity of the shooter.

00:32:05.840 They celebrated the identity of the shooter. They justified the motives.

00:32:09.860 They had the glowing story story, I think, of the Daily Mirror talking about how the the shooter could have been a children's artist and had had whimsical displays of, you know, children and their art and this kind of things.

00:32:22.800 They celebrated this person. They celebrated their cause.

00:32:26.160 Madonna planned a concert to raise money in Nashville for the for the group of the shooter, not the people who were shot.

00:32:35.220 Like they celebrated everything about this identity. And to cap this off with the fact that they're going to go ahead and then attack the very law itself, the very protection itself in the state where the shooting just happened is insane.

00:32:47.720 And by the way, since everyone has forgotten this, just going to remind people there was another trans shooter who was planning to shoot up a middle school and churches who was caught, I believe, in Colorado Springs before that happened.

00:33:01.020 So this was not some isolated incident. But the media, again, because that shooting didn't happen.

00:33:06.640 Oh, just disappeared. You know, oh, you know, these two things are completely unconnected.

00:33:10.920 Nothing to worry about with this ideology. The only thing you need to worry about is that somewhere an 11 year old can't get carved up by a doctor to create irrevocable harm.

00:33:19.920 And that's the thing that you absolutely have to be worried about.

00:33:23.440 Now, Prudentialist, I have been warning for a long time and I've been I've not been alone.

00:33:28.120 There are many people who have been warning about this, that the civil rights revolution would pair up with the trans ideology to become the vector that would attack attack the family. 0.92

00:33:39.740 That would be the way in which the total state would break up families, which would punish regime, punish regime enemies, which would show parents and, you know, strip them of custody if they did not comply with the regime's understanding of gender.

00:33:55.180 And by going through and assigning these identities to these children young, it guarantees that this civil rights conflict exists.

00:34:02.300 Right. And so we not only have a growing voting base that exists like you were talking about because of this application of identity, but we actually have a legally actionable movement of civil rights that is then able to strip away parental custody and parental protection.

00:34:20.180 Protection. This becomes a direct attack on families and it starts by challenging the protection that is created in states like Tennessee.

00:34:27.940 Yeah, absolutely.

00:34:28.940 Yeah, absolutely. And we've also noticed that the language that is being used is very much to work within that sort of 14th Amendment and also civil rights framework.

00:34:37.960 When they talk about that, no child, no parent has a right to their children as if they were property.

00:34:43.840 They're speaking in sort of an abolitionist-esque language there.

00:34:47.560 And it's very illustrative that I don't care what 8,000 plan you have to end wokeness unless it addresses the legal framework of the Civil Rights Act and the revolution around it.

00:34:57.420 You will not succeed at any frame of reference.

00:34:59.940 Does that mean that they're going to call, you know, the right wing racist or conservatives racist as they have for the last, I don't know, as long as I've been alive, if not longer?

00:35:06.820 It's time to recognize that these are the things that you're going to have to deal with.

00:35:11.960 And of course, this means that if they can find ways to legally extradite your child who identifies X, Y, Z way in order to get them out of your hands and arrest you for protesting,

00:35:22.300 just as they have before by sicking the DOJ and the FBI on parents that protested about having pornographic material in elementary and middle schools, they will most likely do it.

00:35:33.400 And we've already seen that where states like California have declared themselves as a transgender sanctuary state, the same way that they are with immigration, the same way they are with all other kinds of lawlessness. 0.97

00:35:44.460 This is encouraged and subsidized by the state.

00:35:48.180 And we have to keep several other things in mind as well on these issues.

00:35:51.460 This is that, yeah, those two trans, you know, shooters, one was stopped, one unfortunately massacred, you know, six people, three of them children under the age of 10. 0.58

00:35:59.220 And it is illustrative that this is more or less endorsed and if not incentivized by the state and that this isn't a place where you can run off to Idaho or Montana and be safe.

00:36:08.760 In fact, in Des Moines, Iowa, Iowa, I think it's or Idaho, one of the two, they had Antifa group with weapons, you know, spawn up out of nowhere in a red state to defend a drag queen story hour sort of deal.

00:36:22.360 And so it's really illustrative of the fact that this isn't something that you can run off to.

00:36:27.460 This is a ubiquitous thing that you're going to have to face.

00:36:30.560 And as you famously have said on Twitter and countless other times, Oren, the side that wants to win will always beat the side that wants to be left alone.

00:36:38.440 And so the right really does need to catch up with this because it's basically acting as if we are a Polish, you know, bicycle rifle brigade compared to like the Blitzkrieg that's about to come in 1939.

00:36:49.180 And we're not prepared for it. I think a big issue that lies there in is the fact that a lot of our propaganda outlets, a lot of our media, whether that be, say, like Newsmax or townhall.com or even Fox News, right?

00:37:02.580 The average viewer is like 68 years old.

00:37:04.820 We tend to cater towards a older audience because that's the ones who typically have money to donate to political groups that tend to vote conservative, but that's left us completely without any sort of tool or engagement towards the young.

00:37:19.640 And what tools we do have, whether that be, say, the YAF or Turning Point USA, we're not focusing on these sort of mainstream cultural issues that those kids will go to college and recognize that a good chunk of their classmates inside of their dorms or in their auditorium lectures, they've got blue hair, they're overweight and identifying with ZZER pronouns, and they're not anything resembling a humane civil society.

00:37:44.500 And it's encouraged. And so I think we need to seriously focus our attention on the youth.

00:37:48.960 We need to seriously recognize that this has been a battle going on for quite some time and that it springboards off the last cultural revolution because the left is always in a state of perpetual revolution because it enables them to secure more power.

00:38:02.580 I mean, this is like Harry Hayes' last laugh, a man that marched in a gay pride parade and said that Nambla walks with him.

00:38:09.020 And here we are now where kids are being openly supported by the state to go mutilate themselves and cause irreplicable damage to their bodies, but also society.

00:38:17.860 Yeah, it's not exactly rocket science here, but I think it's really important, too.

00:38:23.220 In that thread you had, you talked about why, you know, some people on the right, especially kind of in our sphere, will decry some of this stuff.

00:38:32.040 Oh, this is unimportant culture war stuff. It doesn't really matter. You should be focused on.

00:38:36.300 And don't get me wrong. They're absolutely right. Immigration, like so much of that stuff is also critical.

00:38:41.660 But I think they need to understand, due to the implications we've described here, how critical this issue is as well.

00:38:49.780 Just like immigration, this issue is transforming the identity of the electorate and the nation.

00:38:57.080 It is transforming our political process. It is transforming our laws.

00:39:01.000 All of this stuff is being set down in stone as we speak and will be used down the road as a weapon of the regime to silence any kind of dissent, any kind of opposition.

00:39:13.080 It's been made very clear that these opinions are not acceptable, that they will lose you your employment, that they will even possibly, you know, lose you your children, lose you your ability to have protests or any of these things.

00:39:26.700 And like you said, Prudentialists, you can't hide from this stuff.

00:39:29.080 You know, we've got Montana now, right, with the state representative.

00:39:34.020 It's been removed. And, you know, it's only a matter of time before the DOJ finds some reason why that's a violation of civil rights and has to step in.

00:39:42.520 And at some point, we're just in a cartoonish scenario where none of the state legislatures have any authority because the civil rights of, you know, the newest LGBTQ faction overrides all ability of any state to take any action whatsoever. 0.99

00:39:57.920 And so it becomes very clear that this is the agenda, that this is going to be a major vehicle for the transformation of the United States and the perpetual victory of progressivism.

00:40:07.980 And if you're not addressing this, I mean, look, guys, you've got to find your courage here.

00:40:12.580 I don't care. I get it. Like talking about the civil rights revolution, that's scary, right?

00:40:17.660 You're touching a third rail, but you got to. Like there's just there's no time left.

00:40:21.740 You don't you don't have time to sit around and, you know, be scared about this.

00:40:25.620 Like this is really important. And the fact that this is very obviously a vehicle.

00:40:29.620 I mean, we're literally looking at the Department of Justice filing this brief using exactly this language.

00:40:34.820 This is not some scare tactic that someone's pushing from the far right.

00:40:38.620 This is not some kind of crazy conspiracy theory being cooked up by MAGA or something somewhere.

00:40:44.460 This is what's happening. This is the active route that's being deployed by the left as we speak.

00:40:49.820 Now, the good news is I did see, for instance, like Chris Ruffo recently say, look, I'm not sure civil rights law is on our side here. 0.72

00:40:57.320 Like, I'm not sure that we can even expect the Civil Rights Act to, for instance, protect white children from being taught that they're the devil, that they're evil inside.

00:41:06.580 Like the Civil Rights Act just doesn't seem to work for those people to protect them.

00:41:11.380 And so I think there is some awareness growing that this is the vector of attack here and that it will continue along these lines.

00:41:18.380 But I think people really need to become aware that if you don't address this issue, if you get squishy on this, if you pretend like this isn't the way that things are going to move and this isn't the the weapon that is being wielded by the left to ensure that they have electoral victory in perpetuity, then you just don't understand the way that your your political process is being transformed.

00:41:39.200 Your society is being transformed and you really have to define the courage and the way to change that.

00:41:45.320 But that said, we've got a few questions stacking up here, guys.

00:41:48.840 Before we do, Logan, can you tell people where to find your excellent work, your Twitter, everything else?

00:41:55.460 Yeah. So go follow me.

00:41:57.680 It's at Logan Clark Hall and then at New Founding Org.

00:42:03.040 That's where where you can find some of my other work, digital stuff, too.

00:42:07.120 So excellent. And Prudentialist, where can everybody find your excellent work?

00:42:11.800 They can find me on YouTube, Twitter, Telegram, Odyssey, Rumble.

00:42:15.340 But all of my links are conveniently found at findmyfriends.net slash the Prudentialist.

00:42:21.760 Yes, absolutely.

00:42:22.780 And also make sure Prudentialist made sure to remind me we have the Skildings events coming coming up here in Tennessee and I'll be speaking there.

00:42:33.240 You'll have Dave the Distributist.

00:42:34.800 You'll have Academic Agent.

00:42:36.660 You'll have Charlemagne.

00:42:38.040 I believe you'll be there, right, Prudentialist?

00:42:39.400 I will be there as well.

00:42:40.500 Yes, it's later this June in Nashville.

00:42:42.800 I think you can just go to skildings.com slash events.

00:42:46.480 Tickets are still available.

00:42:47.860 The link is in the description.

00:42:49.260 Yeah, I've got the link down there, guys.

00:42:51.480 So if you need to get your tickets for that, you can show up there.

00:42:55.200 All right.

00:42:55.560 So let's go ahead and grab a few of our questions here.

00:42:58.600 We have Lucifer the Doberman.

00:43:01.400 Not Pitbull.

00:43:02.620 Come on.

00:43:02.940 For those who don't know, Prudentialist had a great, made someone delete a Pitbull post earlier on Twitter today.

00:43:14.680 So that was entertaining.

00:43:15.880 But anyway, he says, for fun, Canadian, thank you very much.

00:43:18.840 Libs of TikTok really showed the normies what's being promoted.

00:43:23.000 Yeah, I mean, it really cannot be understated how important Libs of TikTok was and the work surrounding that.

00:43:30.880 The fact that the Babylon Bee stepped up with others and made it possible for Libs of TikTok to kind of become a full-time thing and make it shareable to everybody is just really important.

00:43:43.800 People simply didn't know what was going on.

00:43:46.020 They didn't understand what was being taught in their schools.

00:43:48.400 They didn't understand how teachers were treating students, what was being pushed on them.

00:43:53.580 And I think that's really essential.

00:43:55.160 By the way, I wrote a piece this week about something called restorative justice, which is another woke Marxist infiltration of the school system, particularly pertaining to the way that discipline is handled inside the school system.

00:44:10.060 This stuff goes even deeper than you understand, guys.

00:44:12.200 It's not just the ideology being taught to your kids.

00:44:14.440 It's literally how the classroom is being managed.

00:44:17.440 It's built into the structure of the very suspensions, those kind of things, and how they're being handed out.

00:44:25.120 And so if you want to understand more about that, you can check that out as well.

00:44:28.340 I made a video about that, too, so you can watch that and better understand that.

00:44:33.240 Let's see.

00:44:34.980 Got a few more here.

00:44:36.520 Livid Gandalf for $5.

00:44:44.120 Defeating Nomeness will require a complete overtaking and denotification of the system.

00:44:48.860 All efforts like those by DeSantis or TPO say are super cringe.

00:44:53.240 So, yeah, if you didn't catch this, during my stream with Curtis Yarvin, this was kind of his assertion about kind of what this would take.

00:45:01.740 He said, okay, do you want to force people to understand what's going on here?

00:45:07.460 Do you want to change this by, like, direct action?

00:45:10.880 Then you basically have to have a system of denotification.

00:45:14.500 And Paul Gottfried, famously, for those who don't know, said that basically that's what we have in the United States right now.

00:45:21.340 Like, denotification is basically, like, the driving impetus of our government.

00:45:25.780 They view conservatives, right-wingers, red staters as basically fascists.

00:45:32.160 In fact, they just tell you that now.

00:45:34.340 There's no game being played anymore.

00:45:36.360 There's no hiding the ball here with different phrases.

00:45:39.960 You know, Biden just comes out and calls you a fascist to your face, whatever.

00:45:42.880 And so, basically, what we're going through right now is a left-wing denazification, a left-wing campaign to remove those that they call fascists from any kind of public life, to ban their way of life, to ban their participation in the political system, to basically criminalize political opposition that they deem to be fascists, which is literally all of it.

00:46:06.160 And so, you know, Curtis Yarvin said, if you want to do the other thing, you do it the other way, that's the only way to do it.

00:46:14.480 His suggestion was seduction of the elites, a term which I think has some ambiguity to it.

00:46:24.340 It sounds great, but I'm always asking, okay, when does this happen?

00:46:28.020 Where does this happen?

00:46:29.540 When is this actually occurring?

00:46:31.540 I don't see a lot of seduction happening.

00:46:33.460 I'm told that at some point a crew of dark elves will emerge and they will seduce our elites and they will transform all these blue elites who completely have devoted themselves to trans kids to suddenly becoming, I don't know, some kind of, you know, Bible Belt conservative. 0.96

00:46:49.920 I'm a little skeptical.

00:46:52.200 But your point is made.

00:46:54.240 Now, I will say that I think many of the efforts of Ron DeSantis are noteworthy.

00:46:59.440 I think that they do matter.

00:47:00.660 I still hold, you know, my contention that his talents are better used in Florida, if only because I'm here and I appreciate them.

00:47:09.660 But I don't think they're completely useless.

00:47:13.040 However, they are insufficient in the long run.

00:47:17.440 Some of them are test cases and they're essential.

00:47:20.040 You need those test cases if you're going to figure out how to take the next step.

00:47:23.500 And so I think you should understand that not everything is a home run every time and that's OK.

00:47:28.540 But at the same time, I do understand your point that they are insufficient at this moment.

00:47:34.200 Can I say I know Livid Gandalf IRL.

00:47:38.200 So shout out to Livid Gandalf.

00:47:41.500 Yes.

00:47:42.280 Is he that angry in real life?

00:47:44.220 Oh, no, he's a great guy.

00:47:45.200 OK, good.

00:47:45.700 Though now I'm a little disappointed.

00:47:48.520 I really wanted to see, like, just Gandalf, but screaming at someone, just throwing the pipe at, you know, at someone as they're sitting on the porch there in the Shire.

00:47:57.360 Let's see.

00:47:58.340 Creeper Weirdo here for five dollars.

00:48:00.100 Thank you very much.

00:48:01.260 Whenever you hear a normie say the culture war isn't real, I cringe every time.

00:48:04.960 Do you guys hear that often?

00:48:06.280 Yeah.

00:48:06.440 I mean, it's not just normies.

00:48:07.840 I hear this from political professionals all the time.

00:48:10.280 I hear this from people who are very high up and have, you know, and have significant followings.

00:48:16.840 There are even some people I respect who kind of, you know, downplay the importance of the culture war.

00:48:21.300 But I just got to say they're dead wrong.

00:48:22.920 Like, I get it.

00:48:23.780 This is not what I want to talk about all the time.

00:48:25.640 This is not where I want to spend my focus.

00:48:28.340 I would much rather be writing about, like, you know, some obscure political philosopher at any given moment.

00:48:33.720 But it's very clear, like, this is the vehicle, okay?

00:48:37.500 This is where the battle's at.

00:48:39.900 And don't get me wrong, the battle is also at open borders.

00:48:43.620 There are many different fronts.

00:48:46.660 But it's very clear that this ideology is a vehicle, that it is probably the primary vector by which the total state is collapsing any kind of hope of opposition.

00:48:57.360 If you can convince a quarter of the population, even who aren't acting on any of these impulses, that this identity is key to them and that it is a friend-enemy distinction, that it is key to their survival, and that they have to support it at all costs, that it's an existential threat to them.

00:49:16.640 If anyone questions their ability to transition a 12-year-old, then you're going to own the electoral map for the rest of however long that exists.

00:49:26.580 And you just, if you don't get that, if you're not grasping that, if you don't get that this is just the same as letting millions of migrants cross your border every year, then you're not understanding.

00:49:36.440 You're not seeing the whole map.

00:49:38.200 And you really have to.

00:49:39.460 Again, we just don't have time for people to not get this.

00:49:41.980 It's something that's happening right now.

00:49:44.460 It's already deeply ingrained, and you've got to grasp this.

00:49:47.640 If I could add in there real quick, it's just a lot of people will say, well, why are you focusing on this issue when there are much larger ones at hand?

00:49:54.560 I mean, a lot of these issues all go hand in hand.

00:49:57.640 These are not just one-offs that will affect the other.

00:50:00.100 I mean, consider the fact that you're telling a large portion of Gen Z, which is like one in, or what we just talked about, one in five now, right?

00:50:07.560 Or even one in four for some, even if a large majority of them are not participating in those kind of acts, which are horrible as they are, they're still engaging in a dysgenic and antenatal behavior.

00:50:17.820 We've encouraged for the last several generations now not to encourage in having children.

00:50:22.400 Most people don't view it as a duty to continue society.

00:50:25.440 They just see it as a financial burden.

00:50:27.360 They don't really care about the idea of having kids.

00:50:29.660 You saw this with the abortion debate.

00:50:31.300 And so when people aren't having children and policy planners are looking at this and say, oh, wow, well, the numbers must continue to go up, the economy must grow, a line must go up.

00:50:40.540 Well, I mean, that means that only encourages more unfettered immigration.

00:50:43.600 All of these issues compound one another in a way that leads to the absolute desiccation of American culture, what this nation once was.

00:50:51.220 Because, you know, to Orin's idea of the total state, which he's excellently outlined in his substack, tells us that a lot of these guys really don't mind if they get to rule over a large economic zone.

00:51:02.380 Like, you know, they're the kings of the mall rats or whatever, because they're the ones in charge and they've effectively diluted all political power out of this.

00:51:09.460 So I would agree that, yeah, a lot of our youth outreach on the right is atrocious.

00:51:14.060 That's why they kept looking for YouTubers and looking for alternatives and blogs and obscure books and texts, because what we do have right now is not effective.

00:51:22.160 I mean, I've gone to, you know, those kinds of events and things like that when I was in college.

00:51:26.140 And I still found my way finding people like Ron Paul and others like him way more interesting than anything that was on there.

00:51:33.120 So we do have to do better on that end, because if not, we are going to be completely unprepared, ready for the blitzkrieg of rainbow flags to run over us. 1.00

00:51:41.540 And we need to be wanting to survive.

00:51:44.060 I think another important, this is really, I'll be real quick.

00:51:47.060 No, go for it.

00:51:47.660 I think another reason why it's important to realize these issues compound is because every day in the media, you see some sort of piece that's about, oh, we need more trans immigrants from Ukraine or something like that.

00:52:02.940 That's three issues.

00:52:03.820 So you have to support everything or you don't support any of it.

00:52:06.780 And so that's how they, that's how the left compounds all of these issues into one thing.

00:52:10.660 So you can argue about, oh, that's not really the culture war, but it is.

00:52:15.320 They combine everything into it anyway.

00:52:16.820 Yeah, it's really important to remember that intersectionality is what started all this, right?

00:52:21.580 And it's a huge driver.

00:52:23.620 The coalition is woven together by its contradictions.

00:52:27.420 As ridiculous as people might find any given piece of it, it all works together as a whole.

00:52:32.700 And to ignore it and just wave it away is insignificant because it's not the piece you want to focus on. 0.97

00:52:38.820 I just think it's foolish in the long run.

00:52:40.800 Yeah, I mean, we haven't ever recovered on the right from the intersectionality arguments.

00:52:46.160 And that's where you see a lot of people that wouldn't even call themselves on the right are correct.

00:52:50.480 I think that James Lindsay is correct, for instance, to focus on the intersectionality thing.

00:52:54.200 But what bolsters that intersectional framework is the legal and governmental effects of that, whether it's the civil rights, jurisprudence, or the financial and political incentives to do so.

00:53:05.060 And when you combine those two together, that's how we get what we see right here, whether it's immigration, abortion, or transing the kids.

00:53:13.140 Those things are the perfect marriage of intersectional critical theorists and the civil rights regime framework.

00:53:19.240 And you can't separate the two.

00:53:21.040 You have to tackle both of them together.

00:53:22.660 It can't be a one-off.

00:53:24.880 Yep.

00:53:25.860 Lucifer the Doberman again here.

00:53:27.540 Thank you very much.

00:53:28.300 Incentives drive culture and unfriended.

00:53:31.660 Yeah, no, I mean, he's right about that.

00:53:34.140 It is absolutely the case that incentives are going to drive it.

00:53:37.700 You know, the elite theory is that, you know, your elites make your culture.

00:53:41.520 As Academic Asian has said many times, you know, culture is downstream from power.

00:53:47.600 And so when you have...

00:53:48.220 A rare Adam-friended W.

00:53:49.840 Yeah, everybody gets one.

00:53:52.980 But, yeah, it is certainly the case that this is what drives a lot of behavior.

00:53:58.880 And so when you have a regime which manipulates the law, which manipulates outcomes and incentives to make sure that certain groups are favored, certain behaviors are favored, certain ideologies are favored, then this is what you're going to get.

00:54:12.160 So, Owen Zelensky here for $10.

00:54:15.600 So, Owen, that's a really good question, and it can be somewhat difficult.

00:54:32.160 So, as a former teacher, I can tell you that it's very difficult for teachers to organize in this way because literally their jobs are pretty much predicated on their ability to kind of spout this nonsense, to spout this propaganda, to regurgitate it, or they're just going to get fired.

00:54:50.260 And so it's really hard for them to organize in a different way.

00:54:53.700 I remember seeing the little safe place, you know, rainbow creeping, you know, changing ideology flag popping up in every window in a school.

00:55:07.320 And it's kind of ludicrous because every place in that school is safe for LGBTQ, whatever, that it's celebrated, like every moment of it is incentivized.

00:55:17.060 So putting a sticker that says safe place on it was completely unnecessary.

00:55:20.520 It's literally just watching the Havel's Green Grocer signs go up, you know, workers of the world unite in each classroom, knowing that if you don't have that sign up in your classroom, eventually someone's going to notice and you'll be identified as an enemy of the state.

00:55:33.820 So it is very difficult, even in very based states, every, you know, red states for teachers to kind of organize against this stuff.

00:55:42.480 One of the best things that can happen right now is the kind of movement that a person like, say, Corey DeAngelis is pushing, which is breaking students away from being tied to the system, making sure that the funding follows the student and not the system.

00:55:56.960 Now, this is a really good move.

00:55:59.960 Let me understand.

00:56:00.740 Let me explain for a second why this is so important, why this is such a good move.

00:56:04.700 Normally, conservatives just say, get rid of the funding, just get smaller government.

00:56:08.940 OK, great.

00:56:09.560 But no one's going to stop paying for school, right?

00:56:11.920 Like people are going to want their kids to go to school.

00:56:14.620 So rather than just saying, I want to get rid of the institution.

00:56:18.520 Well, fantastic.

00:56:19.620 But that's not happening.

00:56:20.640 So what can we do?

00:56:22.720 How can we get rid of the pipeline of money that's going directly to our political enemies and redirect it to people who will be our allies while also freeing children of having to go to these state manufactured prisons where they get taught woke ideology all day?

00:56:40.560 Well, how do you do that?

00:56:42.300 Break away the funding.

00:56:43.440 Keep the funding still happens, right?

00:56:45.620 The taxes are still getting taken, the federal funding, the state taxes, everything is still getting, the property taxes.

00:56:51.640 They're all still going to education.

00:56:53.400 But instead of going directly to the government school, the student can take it to a different school.

00:56:58.180 They can take it to your small Catholic school.

00:57:00.040 They can take it to your private school.

00:57:02.620 And that can then make sure that teachers have a place where they can teach that is accordance with their values, that doesn't force them to teach this stuff, that doesn't force them to push these identities onto children.

00:57:14.940 And so by this, you not only break the state monopoly on education and the state stranglehold on the funding, but you make sure that that funding doesn't just disappear into ether, doesn't just go into some other department's budget, doesn't just get shipped to democracy in Ukraine, but it actually goes to some place where a student is getting the kind of education,

00:57:34.720 the kind of moral instruction, the kind of worldview that will make them more conservative, that will make them more right wing, which will make them vote.

00:57:42.960 You can engage in the thing the left does by understanding that you don't just blow up the power because you can't blow up the power, but instead you redirect the power to something that's going to benefit you.

00:57:53.520 And so I think, and benefit more importantly, the next generation and the children, right?

00:57:57.100 This isn't just pure, it has the nice part of being politically useful, but more importantly, it's also morally correct and helps shape the next generation in a positive way.

00:58:07.100 So I think if there's one thing you could share among parents and teachers, if this is not a program that has already been instituted in your state, I would definitely be sharing this program because it's just a common sense way to break kids out of this ideology,

00:58:23.420 to break teachers away from having to teach this ideology and allow parents to have the choice to put their students in a place where their values are going to be taught and where they're not forced into this.

00:58:33.080 There's also, of course, a whole lot else. I mean, you could, you can share what I just wrote about restorative justice. So, you know, your parents understand better what's happening inside their schools.

00:58:43.520 There's plenty of people like Chris Rufo have great material on this. There's lots of avenues at this point, but I think that break between the funding of all of these state institutions and redirecting it to a places that give an alternative is probably the best thing you can do at this point.

00:59:00.040 And to contextualize real quick, I usually will print out, say, a sub stack like yours or PG Keenan's, and I'll share them with like the county GOP chair and things like that.

00:59:09.800 So people who are politically active are aware that there are different ways to look at things with respects to parenting culture and so on.

00:59:17.480 Also run you or someone you trust to uphold your values for local school board. That is seriously very important, too.

00:59:27.580 Yeah, absolutely. Everyone knows I'm not a huge fan of democracy, but if you're going to participate in it, participate it at the local level where it matters, guys.

00:59:36.000 Okay, I'm sorry, but Trump isn't the guy. DeSantis isn't the guy. One election isn't going to change this. You got a whole lot more work ahead of you.

00:59:44.780 So if you're going to put all of your blood, sweat, and tears into something, do it into something that matters, like Logan is talking about.

00:59:51.340 Make sure that your local school board is impacted. Make sure your local sheriff cares about the Second Amendment.

00:59:57.400 Make sure that your DAs are going to enforce the law. Make sure that your governor is not going to shut down your state next time the federal government decides that the sniffles mean that we should,

01:00:07.140 you know, completely end human civilization. These are the things that are really going to impact you. Don't get me wrong.

01:00:13.560 I would love to see a massive top-down change of the federal government, but that's probably just not in the cards right now.

01:00:20.840 And at the moment, the best thing you can do if you're going to be involved is be involved, like Logan's talking about, in the local area where it's going to impact you.

01:00:29.140 Or, and I can't believe you used to be a teacher.

01:00:31.160 Yeah.

01:00:34.540 It's right up there next to Journalist.

01:00:36.620 Yeah. Let's just say I have a resume of things that I'm not proud of, but give me an insight into the process.

01:00:44.000 So hopefully they serve some kind of purpose.

01:00:47.620 That said, let's see. We got, oh, we got one more that snuck in here.

01:00:55.800 Daedalus for $5.

01:00:56.880 Even if we're just, uh, we were just pretending our poisoning will ensure that the majority will still fall to the abyss.

01:01:03.940 Anyway, this is a huge loss either way.

01:01:06.860 I'm not quite sure what the references here.

01:01:09.500 Maybe this is a good joke that I'm just not getting.

01:01:11.460 Uh, but, uh, uh, but that's, thanks for your super chat, man.

01:01:15.400 We appreciate it.

01:01:16.400 All right, guys.

01:01:17.100 I think we got through everything there.

01:01:19.100 Thanks for everybody for coming by.

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The Auron MacIntyre Show - April 28, 2023

One in FOUR High Schoolers Identify as LGBTQ ｜ Guests： Logan Hall and the Prudentialist ｜ 4⧸28⧸23

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