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00:00:46.000 your subscription today. Slop. Why do our leaders love it so much? Why are they so desperate

00:00:53.200 to bring in as many foreigners from as many third world countries as they can so they can

00:00:57.560 taste whatever random thing gets thrown in a bowl and boiled up on the streets of that

00:01:02.140 given country? It's a fascinating thing. We see it play out over and over again. Recently

00:01:07.160 in an interview with Tucker Carlson, Piers Morgan said that he was very happy that while

00:01:12.340 he was being replaced slowly but surely in the UK, ultimately he could eat curry and that's

00:01:18.220 really what matters. Talking to me about that today is Connor Tomlinson. He's with, oh, I'm

00:01:24.500 sorry. I've forgotten your, uh, Courage Media. Yes. Sorry. I forgot your current, your current

00:01:28.640 outlet. Courage Media. He's got his own YouTube channel. Thank you so much for coming on, man.

00:01:32.900 Hello, sir. Good to speak to you again. And as one of the last Englishmen left in London,

00:01:36.620 I feel uniquely qualified to talk about the fall of my country in this way.

00:01:40.480 It is very strange. You know, I've been, I've been lucky enough to go to the UK, uh, three

00:01:45.260 times here in the last few years, uh, all of the times going through London, of course. And you

00:01:50.160 walk in to so many different places in London and you kind of play spot the Englishmen, right? Like

00:01:56.600 all three or four of you wandering around in any given establishment, uh, you've got, of course you

00:02:01.940 can find as, you know, Piers Morgan said food from anywhere in the world, uh, except usually from

00:02:07.740 England, uh, you know, very, very few people there. So it is very bizarre. It's like watching a bunch of

00:02:13.280 kind of barbarians running around the ancient Roman ruins or something, right? Like they know there's a 0.71

00:02:18.160 great civilization here once, uh, but today they kind of just use it to house their, you know, their curry

00:02:23.400 shop or whatever, uh, very strange vibe. Uh, but obviously we, uh, all saw, uh, this interview, uh, well, you

00:02:32.000 and I have seen this interview. Hopefully, uh, the audience will, we'll see this segment now. Uh, but it was

00:02:36.740 very interesting. We'll, we'll talk about a few different parts of it, but the main part I wanted to talk

00:02:40.740 about, of course, was this charge that ultimately as, uh, Tucker Carlson is pointing to Piers

00:02:46.180 Morgan saying, look, how can you be okay with the changes that have occurred in your society,

00:02:50.960 uh, over your lifetime? What, what ultimately do you think is better? And this is his response.

00:02:56.920 Didn't you like, and has been improved by new cultures? Oh, in not most. Tell me, what didn't

00:03:02.520 you like before? What are you glad is gone from the Brittany you grew up in? Let me tell you, 1.00

00:03:05.700 if you came to London in the fifties and sixties, the food was crap. Absolute crap. Well, it was that 0.99

00:03:11.740 way in the eighties when I was here. Right now we have some of the best guests on the meeting.

00:03:16.100 Amazing. So here his answer, you know, uh, Tucker Carlson is laying out. Okay. Yes. You are seeing

00:03:25.040 a large rise in foreigners. Uh, you're losing your culture. Uh, women are being abused. People are

00:03:30.780 being arrested for not respecting, uh, the one true prophet of Islam more or less. And yet here,

00:03:36.980 here you are. What, how do you ultimately justify this? What do you think is this great improvement

00:03:42.000 that you're getting from this cultural evolution as Piers Morgan called it? And of course his answer

00:03:47.440 is the food is better now. Now I will say, and I do not mean this as an offense to your wonderful

00:03:52.920 people. Your food is very bad, but that's not true. No, I'm not taking that from an American. 0.98

00:03:58.100 I'm not, I'm not doing it. Look, I love visiting the States, but we do. This is, this is absolutely

00:04:03.220 an anti-white psyop, right? Fish and chips, uh, roast dinners, all those things. They are, 0.87

00:04:08.580 they are, they are wholesome creature comforts. We basically have the food from the Shire.

00:04:12.660 I understand that this may not be everyone's cup of tea, but it is a damn sight better than the

00:04:16.960 curry. And I must say, if Piers Morgan's complicity and basically ethnocidal rhetoric can be defeated 0.64

00:04:22.560 by a recipe book, then I must contest. He doesn't have a very strong case. Yeah. And of course you're,

00:04:27.980 you're correct that the, the idea that ultimately, however, one evaluates British food and you are

00:04:33.040 correct. You guys do breakfast and fish and chips better than anyone else. The rest we can, we can

00:04:37.920 debate, but those, those two, you have doubt. Um, but, but, uh, the fact that this is such a quick

00:04:43.320 answer for him and it is such the cliche answer. It's what we hear over and over again. Well, you know,

00:04:48.280 we would be so boring without all these immigrants we'd have, we wouldn't have all these access to all 1.00

00:04:52.780 this food as if no one has the ability to cook food except someone who literally comes. I mean, 1.00

00:04:58.700 in a way that is kind of the most blood and soil version of culinary cuisine, I guess, ever. Like

00:05:06.140 you must have the blood of a Japanese person or an Indian person or someone flowing through your 1.00

00:05:12.260 veins before you can yourself, uh, impart it with the magic that allows that food to be good. Uh, but

00:05:17.960 yeah, the fact that we can just look these recipes up on the internet, uh, feels like pretty much a one

00:05:23.580 stroke solution to the problem of boring cuisine. And yet we hear over and over again, that this is

00:05:29.920 what ultimately makes it worth it all. If I can just get the street slop, if I can just get, you

00:05:34.620 know, whatever food is being ladled out in a street stall, that's really what matters. And whether or not,

00:05:40.660 you know, my children can walk safely down the street and can go to school without having to worry

00:05:45.720 about being groomed, uh, whether or not, uh, they're gonna have to worry about terrorist attack. Those things

00:05:50.200 are all, you know, small things that we exchange part and parcel. One would say with living in an urban

00:05:56.120 center, like London.

00:05:58.720 Yeah. You, that part and parcel phrase is actually what Sadiq Khan said about knife and terror attacks in

00:06:04.320 London quite some time ago. For those who don't remember, he also said in advertisements, when he saw

00:06:09.040 white families, this doesn't represent London. And that was an accidental admission that the English have been 1.00

00:06:15.880 ethnically cleansed from their own city. I mean, Piers Morgan, as you said, when he was pressed on

00:06:20.100 this by Tucker, said this was an evolution that London was now less white British. And he asked

00:06:26.440 Tucker to name an area of London that was majority white British. And Tucker didn't name one either

00:06:31.160 because he was staying with his family in a location that he didn't want to give away or because he

00:06:35.340 couldn't name one. And I don't think that's an indictment of Tucker not knowing the various

00:06:39.820 localities of London. I think that's an indictment of Piers because my answer to that would have been

00:06:44.080 any area of London about 50 years ago when we were still about 99% white British. And this mass 0.98

00:06:50.800 demographic vandalism, this unmitigated experiment with multiculturalism and intergenerational 0.94

00:06:57.740 ethnic change has been run against the express wishes of the population who, and despite what my

00:07:03.740 wonderful American friends keep telling me, did not vote for it in every election since 1974 and

00:07:09.680 referendum and were punished with rapid demographic change. Anyway, also, as far as the idea of the,

00:07:15.260 uh, the, the blood and soup nationalism, um, that you saw here as espousing, it's quite funny again,

00:07:20.960 living as an Englishman, the, if it is the case that only certain people of certain extractions can

00:07:26.120 make certain food, then why the hell are Bangladeshis making my coffee? Anytime I go into every chain 1.00

00:07:31.520 establishment, it must, the Italian immigration must have like skipped a generation. Um, apparently it 0.99

00:07:37.340 wasn't essential there. It's just very frustrating as well. Cause so I ratioed Piers as did many people

00:07:42.340 underneath this post, cause that's how we do politics these days, I suppose. And I just said,

00:07:46.160 how many child abuse instances let's euphemise it that way is worth your authentic poppadoms

00:07:52.220 peers, because it's not a hypothetical question. You don't get to divorce the food from the sex crime.

00:07:56.740 And we know that in London, there is one of the worst sex crimes you could imagine reported every

00:08:01.800 single hour. It is one of the only crimes that is on the rise. When you look at these vague

00:08:06.320 crime surveys that Fraser Nelson will point to and say, actually crime is going down.

00:08:10.920 And the majority of those crimes in London is committed by someone who is not ethnically of

00:08:17.000 this place. We only get the breakdowns by foreign nationality and it's between 40 and 47% of those

00:08:22.900 crimes when charged and convicted. So lots go uncharged of course, are by men who do not hold

00:08:29.360 a British passport. But because our government doesn't publish the ethnic data, that means that even

00:08:34.200 more are being committed by their ethnic kin who have been given the proper documents for the state

00:08:40.340 to say, well, they're as British as you and me, so they don't show up in the crime statistics.

00:08:43.680 So my serious question to Piers Morgan is, how many abused children is it worth you having a

00:08:48.160 Vindaloo? And I would assume his answer is just a sort of shrug, because that's an inconvenient

00:08:53.520 question that stops him quite literally slop farming and engagement baiting his way to millions and

00:08:58.940 millions of pounds. Yeah, I'm glad you brought up the evolution comments, because this is something I was

00:09:05.160 talking about yesterday. We're dealing with this in the United States as well right now. The Trump

00:09:11.340 administration has said they're going to end third world immigration to the United States. Come on, guys,

00:09:17.540 let's come through with one of these. Okay, please. So that is their announcement. That's their plan.

00:09:23.520 This has sent the Democrats into, of course, you know, ah, they're talking about ethnically cleansing,

00:09:28.180 you know, brown people out of the United States. Now, that's a funny statement, because, you know, 1.00

00:09:33.660 there's a negative space there, right? Like there's a, okay, if bringing brown people or stop bringing 1.00

00:09:39.240 brown people in the country is to ethnically cleanse them out of the country, what were you doing when you 1.00

00:09:42.800 were bringing them into the country? Yeah. Oh, wait, you were reducing the number of white people in the 0.96

00:09:48.280 country. That was the express point. That's the part that that many of these guys are not saying,

00:09:53.420 out loud. And of course, the same thing happening there with Piers Morgan, right? Like ultimately,

00:09:59.300 you are not admitting that when you say you evolved Britain, what you mean is you wanted it to be less

00:10:04.780 white, that that's what evolution means to you. That's what progress means to you. And so the

00:10:09.180 definition of diversity, the definition of evolution, the definition of, you know, this progress is

00:10:15.360 ultimately fewer white people in your country. And that is something that they, you know, you and I,

00:10:22.980 if we'd said that 10 years ago, we would be sitting in the, you know, the band hammer, you know, we would

00:10:29.240 be completely unable to speak on any given platform. Now, this is something that guys like Matt Walsh talk

00:10:36.080 about regularly, right? We have major figures. We even have major politicians. I mean, Stephen Miller

00:10:42.740 basically went on Fox News and laid out on Sean Hannity's show, The Great Replacement. Like here's,

00:10:48.500 here's the plan step-by-step. The Democrats are going to ethnically replace whites in the United 0.98

00:10:53.120 States so they can manipulate the system, get the votes in, make sure that they stay in power forever.

00:10:59.380 And then that is, that is just the plan going forward is to ethnically replace the American stock 0.99

00:11:04.960 so that they never lose an election again. And they're just rigging elections through demography.

00:11:09.940 These are just questions that were completely off the table 10 years ago, and now are something that

00:11:14.900 we see in just kind of the full mainstream. So it's been very interesting. Now, part of that,

00:11:19.800 of course, is just that the situation has gotten too obvious and too dire, right? It's too obvious

00:11:24.560 when Joe Biden lets in 8 million people in just one presidential term. I mean, you guys, one of the

00:11:31.240 reasons that this has become such a big deal for you quicker than the United States is that we've been

00:11:35.980 slowly boiling this frog much slower over a longer time. We've got a larger population. We got more

00:11:41.720 land mass. We already had a little bit of history with black Americans and others being here early.

00:11:47.740 So there was, while a majority Anglo-Protestant culture, there was always some level of a mixture

00:11:54.420 of other races into the group. You guys have just been speed running, you know, dumping as many 0.99

00:11:59.600 foreigners into your country as humanly possible. So it feels like even though we've been enduring this 1.00

00:12:05.280 longer, you're like catching up with us at record rates and we're both just kind of slamming into

00:12:10.220 similar walls at the same time. Yeah, I don't know what the date for heritage Americans becoming 1.00

00:12:15.640 a minority in their own ancestral homeland is, but over in Britain, the latest numbers calculated

00:12:21.560 by academic Matt Goodwin is by 2063, just three years shy of the symbolic Norman Conquest thousand

00:12:29.400 year anniversary, white Brits will be a minority in their own country. And that's with present pace 0.74

00:12:33.640 of immigration. It could be shorter if accelerated. We now know that about 20% of the population were

00:12:40.420 born abroad. That doesn't count, of course, second or third generation immigrants, of which there are

00:12:47.120 many because they have substantially larger family sizes than your average white Brit. Now about third

00:12:52.560 of all births are to immigrant mothers, again, not broken down by ethnicity. And we also have about

00:12:58.840 2 million illegals milling about in the system. And the accelerant was the Boris wave, of course, the

00:13:04.160 importing of at least 2.9 to 4 million immigrants in the space of four years after Brexit. Bear in mind,

00:13:12.100 the US has 1 million legal migrants every single year, and we are a country the size of New York

00:13:18.100 State. So we've got the same level of legal migration that you guys do every single year

00:13:21.580 in an infinitesimally small space. And Piers Morgan's response to all of this, this rapid demographic

00:13:27.740 change, this cultural disfigurement, this terraforming of London into the majority city, which is now 0.93

00:13:34.980 less than a third English. We don't actually know the numbers because the last census was taken before

00:13:39.000 the Boris wave, was to shrug his shoulders and go, so what? So he's completely indifferent. He's a sort

00:13:44.780 of, you know, eternal boomer avatar. I know he's Gen X, but the one who will literally use his last breath

00:13:50.640 to curse you and say, pass me the naan bread, because he doesn't care about what country he hands off to his 0.96

00:13:55.960 children and grandchildren, especially because he can either retreat to his mansion in the leafy

00:14:00.680 suburbs of Surrey, or piss off to Beverly Hills, where he's got a veritable fortress with probably

00:14:06.360 armed guards and a maid. But I hate to be trite, Oron. I know we hate the, what if the roles were reversed

00:14:12.980 thing on my and your show. But allow me to contrast two scenarios for you. First of all, if an Israeli 0.97

00:14:21.120 news anchor had said this, if he said, well, it's worth cleansing and displacing millions of

00:14:26.140 Palestinians for the shark shuka, then Piers Morgan would have made a week's worth of content about 0.88

00:14:31.000 it and, you know, put Dave Smith against Rabbi Shmuley and it'd get a million views and he'd line

00:14:35.900 his pocket quite happily. But when it's white people, he doesn't care. And on the other side of 1.00

00:14:39.640 this, Bill Maher, who just has a hard on for ethnically cleansing the English out of London,

00:14:45.880 spoke to the trigonometry guys who, they're nice guys, I like them, but also to Sharon Osbourne and

00:14:51.420 Bill Maher and Sharon Osbourne are ethnically Jewish. And they were sitting there, presumably

00:14:55.640 high off spliff smoke, just saying how wonderful it is, how evolved it is that the English are now a 0.99

00:15:02.340 minority in their own capital city and soon to be their own country. And I would just like to say,

00:15:07.340 if it matters so, so desperately for the Palestinians or the Jews in Israel to have a claim to

00:15:13.900 indigeneity to their various strips of sand in the middle of the Middle East, does it not matter for 1.00

00:15:19.500 the English too? Or are we not extended claims to indigeneity or concerns about ethnic cleansing by

00:15:25.340 our boomer media class simply because we're too pale for that?

00:15:31.000 Obviously, there's this bizarre effort to foist upon England right now, something that is also

00:15:39.600 prevalent in the United States. I don't think it's legitimate in the US either, but at least has

00:15:43.420 some bearing in the United States where it really has nothing in the UK. And that is making it into

00:15:49.360 a propositional nation, right? That ultimately, these nations are ideas, not people. It's not a

00:15:55.720 homeland for a specific set of people. Instead, it's this thing that anyone can join and anyone can be

00:16:01.500 a part of. It's about having English values. We just had Vivek Ramaswamy lie on stage yesterday at a

00:16:08.720 Turning Point event and said that right before Charlie Kirk died, the last time that Vivek talked

00:16:16.140 to him, Charlie Kirk answered the question, what is an American? And it's just anyone who works hard

00:16:21.400 and believes in individualism and just lists off four or five things about paying taxes and going to

00:16:29.600 Walmart and whatever. And obviously, that's not true. You can just look at Charlie Kirk's own Twitter

00:16:34.980 and see where he talked about how we need to end H-1Bs. You can't sell American workers. You can't 1.00

00:16:40.480 let all these people in. They're destroying our country. We are an Anglo-Protestant nation. We have 1.00

00:16:46.060 to maintain that in order to people even be able to assimilate. You can see all of these statements,

00:16:51.040 obviously, in Charlie Kirk's Twitter feed. So you know Vivek is at worst or at best telling some mild

00:17:00.240 fibs and doing a little bit of opportunistic necromancy. But it's so strange to just hear

00:17:05.760 this over and over again that it's this set of beliefs or set of actions that make you an American

00:17:12.260 or an Englishman when that's obviously not the case for any other country in the world. And in

00:17:18.520 America, at least it has some connection because it's like, okay, well, we are a new world nation

00:17:23.400 instead of an old world nation. We are a collection of different European peoples originally coming over

00:17:28.440 and kind of forming something different. There was an ethnogenesis that had to happen. So you can

00:17:32.920 kind, if you squint, right, look at the Constitution and say, well, there maybe is an outline for how

00:17:39.840 people can join and become American. But England, obviously, that's just not the case. That's just

00:17:45.040 one of the places where white people come from, right? It's a homeland. There is no story of a 0.50

00:17:51.200 melting pot of Europe coming together and forging a new land. That's just not the story that the UK

00:17:57.020 has. So I'm wondering, I guess the easy answer is they just hate us. But is there a deeper truth

00:18:07.040 to the fact that perhaps something about the European or specifically Anglo mind tends to

00:18:13.520 abstract things and assume things can be abstracted and scaled out that otherwise can't? I mean, you look

00:18:20.800 at the British Empire, you look at the American Empire. These are both, in some ways, attempts to

00:18:25.580 to transfer the civilization outside of those original founding places. Do you think there's

00:18:31.140 something to that? Or is it really just simple as, no, if you're a white country, you can't have a

00:18:35.580 homeland. So you just, you know, we'll pretend there's no indigenous white people to any place 0.92

00:18:39.760 in the world. And eventually, you know, the third world just gets to come in. 0.96

00:18:44.140 That double standard certainly does exist. There's a lot there. So I'll try and address all of it.

00:18:47.840 First of all, on Vivek, I saw that. I thought it was disgusting, especially after Charlie clarified

00:18:53.620 his comments a few months away from his death when someone said if, you know, India, if all of India

00:19:01.540 moved to America, but they're 100% Christian, would they be Americans? And he was like, no, they're 0.94

00:19:04.720 Indians. Okay, so Vivek, you're Indian, and you're also a grifter. So stop it. Ben Shapiro tried the 0.99

00:19:09.780 same thing in his video against Nick and Tucker, by the way, dredging up some like five-year-old clip

00:19:13.540 of Charlie saying, e pluribus unum, and pretending his views didn't evolve. It's absolutely disgusting

00:19:18.700 to use a dead man for your own hypocritical opinions on immigration, especially in Ben's case, 0.97

00:19:23.580 because, you know, Israel gets to be an ethnostate, but America is just an idea, right? Anyway, 0.94

00:19:28.140 so in terms of Britain, I mean, the nation of immigrants narrative that was cooked up by the 0.52

00:19:32.740 ADL and JFK in the 50s and 60s was actually exported over here during the Tony Blair government

00:19:38.460 from 1997, when famously something happened and the floodgates were opened. And it was a

00:19:44.220 minister called Barbara Roche who did that, who unfortunately set up the Migration Museum and

00:19:49.860 said that it was her parents' identity as being Jewish refugees that inspired her to see Britain

00:19:56.060 as a nation of immigrants, that immigrants had built Britain, contributed to it. But as you said,

00:20:01.160 that's just a lie. Between 1066 and 1945, we had less immigration than we did between 1997 and now.

00:20:09.700 Since the Norman Conquest, we were 90% the same genetic stock. The Norman Conquest themselves only

00:20:15.160 left a 5% genetic imprint throughout the entire British Isles. We were 99.9% white British until the

00:20:22.200 Windrush rocked up in 1948, a post-colonial ship full of Jamaican immigrants, a bit like the 1.00

00:20:28.980 Calcutta Star from Camp of the Saints, frankly, that was never invited, but has become our Mayflower

00:20:34.180 in the sort of post-war mythology that says we were, you know, Stonehenge was built by black people

00:20:39.460 or something. And then you've got the sons and daughters of immigrants retroactively writing

00:20:43.360 themselves into Britain's story, like successive conservative home secretaries and now it's leader

00:20:47.820 Kemi Badenoch who say, you know, I'm an immigrant and I'm a good thing and my family are immigrants

00:20:52.000 and they must be good things. Therefore, every immigrant must be a good thing and therefore let

00:20:56.300 them all in. So it's very frustrating. There's no legitimate claim to the idea that England was

00:21:00.820 built by immigrants. Again, the very few immigrants we had were Jewish from 1066 who helped finance the

00:21:08.040 Norman Conquest and then they were expelled by, I think, Edward II until Oliver Cromwell brought them 1.00

00:21:12.800 back. Other than that, unless you're counting the Norman Conquests and the Viking invasions as waves of

00:21:17.220 immigration, which then has interesting implications for the current waves of immigration, we've never

00:21:21.720 been a nation of immigrants. The reason that we're doing this, as has been explored by the likes of

00:21:26.580 Yoram Pozzoni and R.R. Reno and yourself, Oron, in your written work, I think this is just post-war

00:21:33.480 consensus brain where everyone has to be treated as a blank slate as soon as you pass through the

00:21:38.780 passport gates of Heathrow and Gatwick and by osmosis imbibe British values, which, as a quick note,

00:21:46.080 are a formal invention by the government in 2014, the previous conservative government, by a man named

00:21:51.540 Michael Gove, who's becoming a bit of my personal nemesis because I had an immigration debate with him

00:21:55.800 about this and he saw fit to censor it for the spectator and hide the footage. Keep asking for the footage,

00:22:00.320 guys. He listed on a non-white hand, the British values were democracy, tolerance, free speech, respect for 0.62

00:22:08.500 other faiths and the rule of law. I'm surprised he didn't add cricket on a sixth, which then retroactively

00:22:13.380 deprives the likes of King John or Henry VIII or Oliver Cromwell of being English or British because

00:22:19.600 they weren't big fans of democracy and tolerance now, were they? The idea that you step through the

00:22:24.740 passport gates or, you know, show up at Dover Beach and get a prayer bump from kissing the sand in

00:22:29.680 gratitude and then imbibe those values suddenly makes you as British as Hengist and Horsa or Winston

00:22:35.520 Churchill. It's a total fiction. And actually, I will say, nobody below the age of 30 buys into it.

00:22:41.380 This is why now you're getting crisis meetings held at Unheard, the sister publication of The

00:22:46.840 Spectator, about groypers that are materializing throughout the UK. And by groypers, they don't 1.00

00:22:52.080 mean fans of Nick Fuentes or anti-Semites. They mean what they say are ethno-nationalists,

00:22:56.480 basically people that don't buy the civic nationalist British values version of our

00:23:02.260 indigenous identity. And so you've got that faction developing on the under-30s that are sort of

00:23:07.020 heckling boomers who say, you can learn to be English by reading Rodyard Kipling and singing

00:23:11.040 the national anthem. And then you've got the full-throated gay race communist progressives, 0.98

00:23:15.240 largely the sons and daughters of immigrants, who definitely don't see themselves as British, 0.95

00:23:19.360 who hold long-standing ethnic and historic grudges against white people because of the

00:23:23.860 British Empire, a bit like Wajahat Ali's comments the other day, and so openly declare, like the 0.78

00:23:28.720 voters of Zora and Mamdani, hey, white people have my stuff. I want to steal that stuff and give it to 0.95

00:23:32.600 brown people. So this entire narrative, the Britain is a nation of immigrants, that English identity is not an 0.88

00:23:37.940 ethnicity, and it's a civic pledge, a scout's pledge of modish liberal values that could be anywhere,

00:23:43.920 anytime, anyplace, especially the foothills of Afghanistan. Of course, as we see that's worked

00:23:48.440 out, nobody's believing it. And this is why all of the boomer politicians are desperately tightening 0.65

00:23:54.320 their grip on containing the discourse by ostracizing critical voices, trying to stigmatize them

00:24:01.640 in the same way that Conning could try to stigmatize Tucker right now, and falling back on such desperate

00:24:05.980 defenses as Piers Morgan has of, won't you think of the food?

00:24:10.980 Yeah, that is a really interesting dynamic because, of course, we're seeing it play out in the United

00:24:16.060 States as well, of course, when you have a guy like whatever his name Ali is, a Star Wars name,

00:24:23.400 whenever you have a guy like that, just come out, and obviously, like, he's trying to make a joke,

00:24:28.260 he's trying to troll, but not, right, at all. He's just bragging, you know, saying, oh, yeah,

00:24:33.180 there's too many of us here, there's too many brown people, we're going to take your women, 1.00

00:24:36.720 your food sucks, your culture sucks, we're going to replace you, we're going to laugh at you about 1.00

00:24:40.820 it, we're conquering you, the end. Like, when you have guys come out and just announce that kind of 1.00

00:24:45.780 stuff, then you really only end up with two camps. Like, you can no longer live the boomer truth 0.77

00:24:50.420 idea that we're just, you know, the melting pot is coming together, we're assimilating all these

00:24:54.480 people, we're all going to find the common ground. No, like, you very quickly get either,

00:24:58.840 you know, two directions, either you get, you know, kind of the third world paperwork American 0.71

00:25:03.800 coalition and their accomplices, or you get kind of paleo conservatives who say, yeah, no, obviously,

00:25:09.400 the assimilation is not working, the people I see don't even want to assimilate, you know,

00:25:13.040 back in the, you know, in the 50s, the 60s, you see an immigrant, you probably could believe that 1.00

00:25:17.700 they all wanted to assimilate, they probably, you know, they came with at least the expectation

00:25:21.140 that that's what they should do. Many of them may not have, but they at least thought that that was

00:25:25.460 the expectation and what they should be doing when they approach the country. Now you have a scenario

00:25:29.980 where they just proudly announce, no, we are not assimilating, that's not happening, we're conquering,

00:25:34.800 you know, we look at what happened in California with the race riots, you know, people literally

00:25:39.720 call themselves La Raza, the race, and talking about how they're going to retake California for 0.76

00:25:45.540 Mexico, many of them weren't even Mexican, but they just wanted a foreign flag to hate America with, 0.73

00:25:50.660 like, that's kind of where we're at, at this point. And so fewer and fewer people are obviously

00:25:56.380 buying in. Now, I don't want to, I'm really tired of this debate, so I'm not going to retread all of

00:26:01.000 the people who are trying to control the right right now. The point is that obviously, there is a full

00:26:06.880 court press by the mainstream conservative movement to shut this conversation down. But the problem is

00:26:13.960 that too many influential guys, not just Tucker Carlson, but guys, again, like Matt Walsh,

00:26:19.140 who, it's really hard to hit, you know, they've tried to come at Matt a few times, you know,

00:26:24.560 shutting him down, oh, you're aligned with the Gripers, but he's just too big, he's got too much

00:26:28.260 credibility, he's been around the movement too long, you know, he's on the Daily Wire, you know,

00:26:32.620 like, he's not, like, sitting around on some crazy fringe show, like, he's on one of the biggest

00:26:37.740 platforms, one that is specifically known to be very pro-Israel, like, that's a very difficult guy to

00:26:43.560 attack on these grounds of, like, well, he's just a Griper, which is what they've tried to do with

00:26:47.740 everyone else, including me. Like, everyone who believes what Pat Buchanan wrote, they're not a

00:26:52.900 Buchananite, they're not a paleo-conservative, they're a Nick Fuentes fan, because that's the

00:26:57.760 untouchable Voldemort. But we're seeing that civil war go on, but it's just not working, like, and you

00:27:03.240 can see the desperate flailing to try to stop this evolution of the conservative movement, but it's

00:27:08.740 just so obvious that these people have no answers. You know, it was amazing when I was having that debate

00:27:13.300 with Joel Berry, and it's like, okay, what is ultimately the answers to these questions? And

00:27:19.180 there was just very little there. Like, there's just no, you know, it's like, you know, he was

00:27:24.400 shocked when I said, the conservative movement has failed in these areas. He's like, how can you

00:27:28.960 possibly say that? Like, how can you not? Like, how can you look around at everything before the Trump

00:27:35.160 movement and say that this was a success? And sorry, Trump was insurgent on the movement you're

00:27:40.320 trying to restore. Trump was a guy pushing back against established conservatism. If Trump wasn't

00:27:45.300 in office, we wouldn't even be having discussions about remigration and deportation and demographics

00:27:51.700 and all these things. These things only just became discussable under Trump. Rush Limbaugh didn't do

00:27:57.720 that, sorry. Mitt Romney didn't do that. John McCain didn't do that. Dennis Prager didn't do that.

00:28:03.880 That is a pure product of the MAGA movement and the commentariat and voters that have emerged out of

00:28:11.880 that environment. So it's just very strange to watch that generational back and forth, because like you

00:28:17.220 said, it's so polarizing. There's just nothing left of people under 30, I'd say even under 40, really,

00:28:23.440 in America, where they just kind of sit in that talk radio bubble of the center, or, you know,

00:28:28.560 I imagine something similar in Britain, where they're just trying to, the Tory boys, I think,

00:28:32.900 as they're often referred to, you know, that kind of trying to maintain that center is just failing

00:28:37.720 so disastrously for the establishment right now. Well, they're also desperate to be led by an

00:28:42.440 immigrant, and I'm not sure why, but if you guys notice, so Liz Truss got couped out basically by 1.00

00:28:47.340 the banks, the media, and her own party, and Rishi Sunak got installed as the first British Asian

00:28:51.420 prime minister, despite losing what is essentially the primary in his own party after Boris Johnson was

00:28:57.260 kicked out, and then losing the election in the worst conservative defeat for 100 years. And then they,

00:29:01.700 in an age of rising nativism and immigration opposition, the party that oversaw the largest

00:29:07.080 wave of immigration in British history, then installed a first generation Nigerian immigrant

00:29:11.460 who identifies as Yoruba and has ethnic enemies, Boko Haram, as its leader. Reform UK at the moment,

00:29:18.940 I want people to understand, is not a vehicle for getting Nigel Farage elected, it's a vehicle for

00:29:22.800 ensuring that Zia Yusuf is the first Muslim prime minister of the UK, and he's had the backing of

00:29:26.960 Michael Gove, and also Paul Marshall, who is the owner of pretty much every right-wing media

00:29:32.240 institution in Britain. I mean, Spectator, he was on the board of Unheard, sorry, of GB News, he owns

00:29:38.080 Unheard, he owns all these various think tanks, the Faros Foundation, like, there is complete

00:29:42.860 containment in the UK right now. And then they're currently positioning Shabana Mahmood, good British

00:29:48.780 name, of course, a Pakistani Muslim, who is now the Home Secretary, who is trying to sound tough on

00:29:53.400 immigration while creating new safe and legal routes to bring in Palestinians and Pakistanis

00:29:58.200 and Iranians via charter flights, as the next prime minister and the successor to Keir Starmer,

00:30:03.300 the most unpopular prime minister in British history, and you know this because she's now 0.93

00:30:06.440 doing the headline event with Tony Blair for the Tony Blair Foundation, Christmas Dinner. So keep your

00:30:11.900 eye on that one. Basically, everyone is obsessed in British politics by being led by a non-English person, 0.60

00:30:17.700 which is completely insane. I've probably said things that the chat really likes up until now,

00:30:24.100 and allow me to say something that might get me in trouble with the audience or on. I really

00:30:30.080 enjoyed your interview with Tucker. Tucker only filmed three interviews while he was in the UK,

00:30:34.360 two of them have gone out. The third one is going to be a barnstormer. I had dinner with the guy

00:30:38.360 he interviewed immediately after, and it is going to coronate a new king of the British right

00:30:42.520 in the eyes of Americans. So I appreciate what Tucker's doing. However, as someone living here,

00:30:49.200 I do not appreciate when he says, I have more in common with Bangladeshis and Pakistani taxi drivers

00:30:54.200 than I do with white leftists. I also, you know, Nick is hilarious, right? I know you've heard your

00:31:00.000 set-tos with him. I don't agree with him on all those political persuasions, and here's one of them.

00:31:04.460 I don't agree with when he said the other day on Alex Jones's show that being anti-Muslim is just a

00:31:08.860 Zionist side-up. I understand what he's trying to say, and especially the Israel First lobby 0.81

00:31:13.860 constantly complain about Muslim migration and say that Israel is fighting radical Islam, and so

00:31:19.160 therefore they're part of the Western coalition, while all of their neoconservative champions

00:31:22.940 then import millions of Muslims into the United States. George Bush, for example, or Ben Shapiro

00:31:27.540 saying he doesn't care about the browning of America, and they always say it's just radical Islam,

00:31:30.800 it's not Islam. So complete hypocrites. I understand that's what you're saying, especially because 1.00

00:31:34.300 the scale of problem is less in the US than in the UK, though if you're living in Dearborn,

00:31:39.060 Michigan, or Texas, or Minneapolis, you might dispute that. But it is not true that these people

00:31:44.120 can assimilate. It is not true that these people are more like us just because they have family values

00:31:48.220 and there's no transgenderism in madrasas. These people, out of habit or spite, are turning our 0.99

00:31:53.500 country into a third-world shithole. These people, especially when Tucker said Pakistani taxi drivers, 0.92

00:31:58.200 that is the main trafficking nexus for the infamous grooming gangs, which Tucker rightly has been

00:32:04.580 appalled by. So the idea that these are like wholesome, chungus, Muslim immigrants that we can 1.00

00:32:10.200 ally with to defeat ZOG or repudiate the pride movement, ultimately the crocodile will eat you. 0.64

00:32:19.800 And I don't appreciate how it's currently devouring my country. And so this brings me back to what you

00:32:24.100 you opened that bit with, which is the only things that encourages assimilation are you have to be

00:32:31.800 an infinitesimal minority in a country where the heritage ethnic majority is unquestionably dominant.

00:32:39.340 You have to have been invited and wanted there. You have to have cultural proximity. You have to

00:32:44.460 renounce your loyalties to your previous people. And that has to be enforced, not just the propositional

00:32:49.740 nation. I pledge my allegiance. Now let me lobby for my ethnic in-group via APAC or whatever Indian

00:32:55.640 lobby group wants H-1Bs or something. You have to adopt the religion of the state, Christianity, 1.00

00:33:00.700 in our respective countries. And then this has to happen in infinitesimally small numbers. So you

00:33:04.840 feel sufficient pressure, both financially and socially, in order to ingratiate yourself into

00:33:09.600 the tribe. It's the biblical root standard, right? Your people is my people. Your God is my God.

00:33:13.680 You marry an Israelite. And then your descendants become indistinguishable from the host 1.00

00:33:17.740 population within two generations. Now this is very difficult, even with proximate European

00:33:23.980 nations. Like when the Italians moved to the U.S. in the early 20th century, it wasn't exactly

00:33:29.180 smooth. We got some great mob movies and the Sopranos out of it, but there were still ghettos. 1.00

00:33:33.560 There was still organized crime. Okay. If Catholic Italians were difficult enough to integrate over 0.94

00:33:39.240 the period of half a century, then how the hell are you going to integrate cousin marrying, 0.98

00:33:45.080 clannish, Muslim Somalis? How is Britain going to have Whitechapel not turn into a Bengali slum 1.00

00:33:54.320 when it imports Bangladeshis or not have grooming gangs when it imports Pakistanis from the peasant 1.00

00:34:01.160 villages of Mirpur? It's not going to happen. These people just do these things naturally. It's like

00:34:05.200 that video of the beaver building a dam out of cuddly toys. It's just their nature. So the only solution

00:34:09.840 is, and I would urge the Trump administration, if we're going to do a little bit of chimping, 1.00

00:34:15.220 as well as trusting the plan here, I would urge the Trump administration to add Pakistan,

00:34:20.580 Bangladesh, India, China, and a bunch of other countries to its very tepid 19 third world immigration 1.00

00:34:27.940 country ban. Because if you don't do that within a couple of election cycles, you're going to get

00:34:32.880 demographically replaced just like my country is. Yeah, of course, I absolutely agree with that. 1.00

00:34:38.380 I've called many times for a ban on Chinese immigration at the very least. It's insane that

00:34:43.340 we say these people are our greatest geopolitical rivals. And also, we're going to import as many of

00:34:49.220 them as we want. And we'll actually educate them in our universities and make sure that they get these

00:34:53.960 anchor baby citizenship gangs going. It is absolutely crazy that that's the way that it works. And I 0.99

00:35:02.880 agree with you, again, when it comes to the, you know, the enemy of my enemy of my friend mentality,

00:35:08.420 some people seem to have with this, right? Like, no matter what problems you might have with Israel

00:35:13.080 or its policies, there is no way that bringing Muslims into your country is somehow a solution

00:35:19.300 to this problem. Obviously, these people hate you. Obviously, these people are incompatible. 0.97

00:35:24.820 And it is just the height of terrible understanding of relations to say, okay, well, yes, someone in my

00:35:33.480 country, someone who's part of my extended family, my nation, they don't believe the way I should. So

00:35:39.200 I should just replace them because that's what the left is doing. It's just the same. It's just a

00:35:42.940 mirror version of what the left is doing. If you had if you have a, you know, a stupid liberal family 1.00

00:35:49.140 member, you might disagree with them. But at the end of the day, like, you don't just swap them out 1.00

00:35:53.980 for some more based guy from Kenya. Like, that's not how it works. You know, you don't just sit him

00:35:59.600 down at the dinner table and say, okay, sorry. You know, Uncle Pat with his stupid liberal ideas is 1.00

00:36:05.160 gone. You know, you're the new family member. Now, the same is true with the nation. The nation is 1.00

00:36:11.000 extended family. You treat these people as family, even when they're wrong, and you teach them

00:36:16.600 why they're wrong. You don't you don't just replace them with the kind of people that you

00:36:20.660 think would vote for you for any given election cycle. Because of course, the dynamic in America,

00:36:24.500 and I made this joke several times, but we're about to hit the tipping point. You know, the joke used

00:36:28.700 to be, you know, the global American empire can make Muslims gay before Muslims can make America, 0.98

00:36:34.720 you know, halal or whatever, right? Like, that used to be the case. Like we were just, 0.89

00:36:40.640 you know, you look at a guy like Mom Donnie, you know, this is obviously not a serious Muslim. This is a guy 0.87

00:36:45.840 who's, you know, championing transgender rights and everything. But eventually, you hit a critical

00:36:51.240 mass of Muslims, and then they actually do just start imposing their will. Rather than having the 1.00

00:36:56.680 children of Muslims assimilate to the wider kind of gray goo Americans, the slop leftist culture, 1.00

00:37:03.560 instead, they actually start retaining those Islamic beliefs, and they build enough critical mass in

00:37:11.420 different areas, they can build enclaves to protect their beliefs, and then push them, you know,

00:37:16.560 on onto the wider public. So that's not a game you want to play, because in on neither side of that

00:37:22.340 equation, are these guys your allies, when they're becoming leftists to push, you know, the global

00:37:27.220 agenda, they're not your friends. And then once they get here in a high enough concentration to become

00:37:32.940 radical Sharia law, you know, in enclaves, they're not your friends either, right? So they're either way, 0.96

00:37:40.080 they're going to be against you. The idea that teaming up with these people at all is wise is

00:37:45.540 just absolutely insane. So I think, and I have called openly, I did a, I think, I think I did a

00:37:52.900 episode about two weeks ago calling for a Muslim ban, like we just, this needs to be done. There's 0.99

00:37:58.000 no reason this should be happening. But, you know, obviously, we see a lot of people too weak, even on

00:38:03.340 the right to call for similar things. Now, one other thing I wanted to talk to you about before we go too

00:38:08.760 long is that the other thing highlighted in that interview with Piers Morgan and Tucker Carlson

00:38:17.380 was the fact that you guys have just lost freedom of speech. It's funny because you were listing the

00:38:21.660 British values on your hand, like free speech and rule of law. It's like, well, two of those five are,

00:38:29.900 there are no longer British values. Those don't exist at all. But, you know, Tucker really laid in

00:38:35.140 to Piers Morgan saying, you know, you won't say these specific words because if you do,

00:38:40.340 you know, the government is coming for you. Like not just you're going to lose your platform,

00:38:44.500 not just you're going to get demonetized on YouTube. But if you say these words, like the

00:38:49.220 government will knock on your door and you could go to jail. And Piers Morgan's like, oh, no, no,

00:38:53.460 I just don't want to offend anyone. That's all. I just, I'm just worried about the offense,

00:38:57.020 which is of course ridiculous because obviously Piers Morgan doesn't care about offending

00:38:59.760 anyone. Like that's, you know, that's literally his, one of his schticks. But the fact that he 0.96

00:39:04.660 was just completely unwilling, it was so clear that he was completely terrified of the government,

00:39:09.280 completely terrified of the consequences. I mean, I'm sure he also has the leftist values that tell

00:39:14.480 him don't say those things, but clearly he was unwilling to transgress those because he was worried

00:39:20.120 about that was very interesting. And Tucker really nailed him down for it. Now, you recently talked

00:39:25.180 about the United States putting pressure on the UK and attempting to point out that the UK is violating

00:39:32.180 many of your rights, including the fact that it's trying to ethnically cleanse its population, 0.98

00:39:37.400 the fact that it's created a tier two justice system, the fact that freedom of speech has ended

00:39:41.780 for the native British population. Can you talk a little bit about what the Trump administration has

00:39:48.560 done, what the state department has done in speaking out on the condition in England?

00:39:53.240 I can. I will say, I think actually that Piers is just a congenital shitlib and so therefore 0.92

00:39:59.440 genuinely did not want to quote unquote offend anyone or lose out on lucrative contracts and 0.67

00:40:05.780 advertisers more so than he was afraid of being persecuted by the government because there are

00:40:09.260 certain targets the government won't go for. Like it's very much a juvenileian thing of where

00:40:14.260 like they'll, the top crust of liberal commentariat will never be threatened no matter what they say by

00:40:22.260 the state and the bottom immigrant underclass weaponized against the native population will 1.00

00:40:27.160 never be prosecuted for their anti-white racism. But every average mother and grandfather like Lucy

00:40:32.320 Connolly or the late Peter Lynch will be thrown in prison for imprudent tweets or hurty words and

00:40:37.060 either spend like two years in prison, whereas migrant sex offenders get 14 months or they'll even die in 0.98

00:40:43.460 prison in Peter Lynch's case. And this is actually a case that I raised with the state department after

00:40:47.300 their 2024 report on the state of human rights in Britain, which came out while JD Vance was visiting

00:40:53.340 and mugging her then foreign secretary, now justice secretary, David Lammy. David Lammy, by the way,

00:40:59.140 is the dumbest man in Britain. He says he's black English, which isn't even a category that exists, 1.00

00:41:05.260 but then demands reparations as a Caribbean person. He's now justice secretary. He was just abolished,

00:41:11.140 and you're not going to believe this, Oran, trial by jury. We were about to abolish trial by jury in Britain.

00:41:17.300 It's been encoded in the Doomsday Book, in the Madden Carter, in the 1689 Bill of Rights.

00:41:21.320 We gave it via common law and Blackstone's formulation to America, and now a man who looks like 0.96

00:41:25.900 Idi Amin, who thinks that Henry VII came after Henry VIII, something he said on live television,

00:41:31.540 is about to abolish trial by jury. Anyway, so that should be in the next state department report.

00:41:36.060 But the state department report of 2024 was scathing. It mentioned two-tier policing, something that

00:41:40.340 the UK government had actually emailed TikTok to get to remove content that mentioned it last summer

00:41:47.280 because they said it was damaging for Keir Starmer. They also asked TikTok to remove videos of

00:41:51.540 fighting age males, the reference to illegal migrants crossing the channel. Jim Jordan,

00:41:57.540 obviously chair of the House Judiciary Committee, complained about this, says that these editorial

00:42:02.320 standards are censoring Americans, so it's of particular interest to us. But in that report,

00:42:06.420 they mentioned migrant crimes like the murder of three girls at the dance class in Southport by

00:42:11.920 Axel Rudy Cabana, which the government had withheld evidence on. The chief constable of

00:42:16.420 Merseyside Police had actually considered, and this is according to a government report,

00:42:20.000 publishing the family's Christian background to protect Muslim communities. Now, the guy himself

00:42:26.560 appears to be going to mosque while in prison, but I don't actually think that was his motivation. 0.97

00:42:29.960 I think he's just a schizophrenic, low-IQ African who went to stab a bunch of children because he, 1.00

00:42:34.460 quote, wanted white genocide, something he had told a bunch of classmates. So all of these things are 0.99

00:42:38.680 going on. And so the State Department has now instructed embassies in the UK, Canada, across

00:42:44.240 Europe, New Zealand, and Australia to start recording migrant crime, state-funded abortion,

00:42:50.760 transgender operations on children, and other medical abuses like embryonic testing and euthanasia.

00:42:57.080 All very encouraging because our government's not doing this. Trying to

00:43:00.420 get data on the number of sex and violent crimes committed by immigrants, as I've already relayed, 0.90

00:43:06.640 is like pulling teeth. They avoid it, they don't publish it themselves, and they only ever publish

00:43:10.680 which passport they have rather than which ethnic extraction they are. So we don't get a full picture

00:43:15.120 of just how many foreign criminals that we could deport tomorrow, if we had the courage, 0.69

00:43:19.560 are in our country. And they also at the same time sent out communique to the leaders of those

00:43:23.960 respective countries saying, listen to your population, lower migration, and stop inflicting

00:43:29.480 two-tier justice on them, penalizing them for having negative opinions of minorities via social

00:43:34.860 media more than the foreign criminals committing the crimes in and of themselves. And that's happening 0.93

00:43:40.360 pretty frequently. And it's happened under pretty much every government going back to Margaret Thatcher,

00:43:44.460 by the way. So the legislation that people are getting prosecuted for, there's now 33 minimum

00:43:49.240 people being arrested for social media posts or things said in public every day. That's more

00:43:54.100 than Russia before they engaged in the war with Ukraine. I think it's about 12,000 prosecutions

00:43:59.380 a year. These are based on legislation that was passed in 1986 under Thatcher, under Tony Blair,

00:44:07.120 under the last conservative government. This is guidance, hate crime guidance, non-crime hate incidents

00:44:13.180 being recorded against members of the public because the police were called institutionally racist

00:44:17.000 in 1999 by Britain's equivalent of a George Floyd case, the Stephen Lawrence murder, and so have

00:44:23.480 been launching an anti-racist inquisition against members of the public's private thoughts to equip

00:44:28.240 themselves with that allegation ever since. And every government, including this one, have entrenched

00:44:33.380 the legislation, exacerbated it, and now we've got thousands of people being prosecuted for it,

00:44:37.540 while, yet again, the grooming gangs are still an ongoing scandal. And this is, if I may, just one

00:44:42.920 comment on that previous discussion. This is why you can't have peace with such people, because the

00:44:49.560 entire government censorship apparatus, the total state that you've written and spoken so eloquently

00:44:54.120 about, exists to protect the feelings of these minorities based on the belief that if you just

00:44:59.800 stop people noticing differences, the blank slate will be true and everyone will be equal. So it's a

00:45:04.860 fundamentally egalitarian project. It's ratcheting towards us all living in John Lennon's Imagine,

00:45:09.400 and instead you're getting Liberia, or South Africa, or Lebanon manifesting on our streets instead.

00:45:16.240 And the reason why you can't ally with Muslims as the right wing is, one, they vote overwhelmingly 1.00

00:45:21.280 left, or increasingly for their own independent Muslim MPs in my country, but two, because the

00:45:28.120 Pakistani grooming gangs has nothing to do with their opposition to Israel. In 2016, the head of the

00:45:32.800 Ramadan Foundation wrote after three of his cousins were convicted for participating in a grooming gang in,

00:45:39.280 I think it was Rotherham. He wrote that Pakistanis living in Britain know this is going on, and they

00:45:46.380 bury their heads in the sand because, quote, they don't want to be seen as siding with the white

00:45:51.200 enemy. So this is an explicitly racial and religious crime that has nothing to do with geopolitics.

00:45:57.240 They're not here because of American and British adventurism in the Middle East. They just hate white 0.99

00:46:01.660 people, and they want to abuse their children. So there is no allying with them. The state actively 1.00

00:46:06.100 protects them, rather than the native children being abused and trafficked. Read some of the

00:46:11.120 transcripts that have just come out today from Open Justice. It's literally war crimes, and they

00:46:14.900 should be prosecuted as such. And so the only way to get rid of this censorship artifice isn't just

00:46:19.500 to change the government, isn't just to repeal the laws that put it in place, but is to denaturalize

00:46:24.580 and deport every single person that these laws are protecting, starting with the Pakistani enclaves that have 0.99

00:46:29.120 been abusing these children, which, I'm sorry, Tucker, you can't befriend.

00:46:33.700 Yeah, again, can't agree with that enough. So before we go to the questions of the people,

00:46:40.800 I'm going to ask you something. And this, to be clear, this is not blackpilling. Both of our

00:46:45.200 countries can and will be saved. But one of the conversations that I often have back and forth

00:46:52.760 with those across the pond is, which country is more cooked? Like, which one has to go,

00:46:59.380 has further to go? When I look at the UK, I often think, man, it's almost like you guys only exist to

00:47:05.980 remind me that it could be worse, right? Like, whatever we're facing, it always feels like you

00:47:11.060 guys are just two steps ahead in the dystopian thing. But at the same time, I will have people in

00:47:16.840 the UK say, no, actually, just our total numbers, our percentages are better, we have a better chance

00:47:22.600 once we actually have a real government of turning this over. You know, we have a longer history that

00:47:27.640 will allow us to kind of recoalesce into a people much faster than the Americans. So in your mind,

00:47:34.500 which country do you think has a farther climb to get back to something that is sustainable and good

00:47:40.440 for its people? Possibly yours, because the sheer scale of the bureaucracy, the capitulation to the

00:47:48.160 judiciary and the unmanageability of your empire, all of which you documented at length is a much

00:47:54.400 larger problem than us. Again, we're the demographic change, the cultural disfigurement, just the

00:48:00.440 aesthetics of everything that's happened is a lot more concentrated and felt. And our population are

00:48:06.960 much more awake to the problems than I think a lot of the American public are. You're still

00:48:11.960 relatively split between Republicans and Dems. And the Dems are just the trans the kids open the 0.99

00:48:17.080 borders party at this point. You know, Kamala Harris didn't come that far from winning, let's be fair. 1.00

00:48:22.520 Still got like 70 odd million votes. So in the UK, immigration is number one issue. And the party

00:48:27.000 that is posturing as being anti-immigration is the number one party with a double the share lead over

00:48:32.740 everyone else. And because of the parliamentary system, if you get a sufficiently courageous

00:48:37.980 government that understands which laws to get rid of on day one, that's willing to fire the civil

00:48:41.760 service, that's willing to make use of the Shemima Begin principle to denaturalize and deport

00:48:46.140 pretty much every troublesome third worlder that's settled here in the last 50, 60, 70 years, 80 years 1.00

00:48:52.860 even, then we can clean up this country within one parliamentary cycle. And I'm very bullish on that.

00:48:57.680 I'm with Curtis Yarvin, actually, whether it's because he believes in accelerationism,

00:49:01.520 or whether it's because I understand the parliamentary processes that can actually

00:49:04.860 fix this problem. I think Britain is closer, theoretically, to being resolved. The problem

00:49:10.760 that we have is a lack of political courage and a succession crisis. So I know people are questioning

00:49:18.520 whether or not J.D. Vance is the man. I happen to think, and from people that know Vance and are

00:49:24.320 trustworthy, that he probably is the guy and he's willing to do what's right. I think just the bureaucracy

00:49:29.740 is going to get in his way, as it seems to be with the Trump administration and making certain

00:49:33.640 concessions. The problem in the UK we have is that we only have maybe one great MP, which is

00:49:39.940 Rupert Lowe, and he currently doesn't have a party. He is currently banned from pretty much every

00:49:44.560 mainstream media apparatus, despite being the most popular on social media in the country,

00:49:48.520 and commanding 10 points in polls on his own without a party. So that's pretty seismic. He has no

00:49:54.680 route to power. Instead, it looks like Nigel Farage is going to be the next prime minister who has no

00:49:57.940 eye for detail, and as Rupert jokes, is a beech tree under which whom nothing grows. And instead,

00:50:02.560 he's probably just going to retire, even possibly midway through a parliamentary term, and hand it

00:50:06.480 off to Zia Yusuf, and hey, presto, we get our right-wing liberal first Muslim prime minister that

00:50:12.120 nobody actually likes. He's basically our Vivek Ramaswamy, so keep a close eye on him. He's utterly

00:50:15.900 insufferable. Called the police on Rupert Lowe, by the way, and had his house raided and his shotguns

00:50:20.020 confiscated for speech in the middle of the night. So whether or not we have a sufficient

00:50:25.700 Caesar figure, or a courageous political class, to take advantage of our slightly better legal and

00:50:32.700 constitutional position remains to be seen. I don't think so, but we've still got possibly

00:50:37.300 four years, and so we just need, through sheer force of will, to bring that next political class

00:50:43.820 and that figure to the fore. If we don't, I don't know how long we've got left.

00:50:49.160 All right, guys. Well, we're going to go ahead and wrap up this portion. We're going to head into

00:50:53.920 the questions of the people, but before we do, Connor, where can people find your great work?

00:50:58.500 They can find my content over on YouTube, just under my name, Connor Tomlinson. They can find

00:51:02.820 me on Substack, under the same name, or under Tomlinson Talks. Courage Media is undergoing a

00:51:07.840 restructure at the moment. We're still posting some essays there. We're trying to make it the right-wing

00:51:11.420 version of the Atlantic, basically, because we have very few citadels under our control. And you can

00:51:16.360 find me on Twitter, incessantly tweeting about demographics and migration. What else is there to

00:51:21.300 talk about? At con underscore Tomlinson. Excellent. All right, guys. Well, let's head over to your

00:51:27.480 questions here real quick. We have Cherry Coke Nixon saying, re-immigration is the issue of our

00:51:32.060 generation. It will be a long, hard, and struggle. We may not see victory in our lifetime, but it must

00:51:36.760 be the core issue on the right going forward. Boomers, step aside. And yeah, basically, I've said the 0.99

00:51:42.360 same myself. We have to deport. We have to close the border. There are no other options, especially if we're 0.73

00:51:48.840 going to continue to operate as a liberal democracy. You simply, if that was the only reason, just

00:51:55.420 mechanically, you cannot allow that to happen. Now, there's also a deep evil in ethnically cleansing 0.95

00:52:00.780 both America and Britain. But if you just need to put things in the terms of political existential

00:52:08.360 issues, if you continue to have this level of immigration, you simply will never win an election 0.99

00:52:13.700 again. And therefore, no change will ever occur again in either country. So that really is the

00:52:19.460 beginning and the end of the issue. If you don't fix this problem, you literally can't fix any other

00:52:23.500 problem because the mechanisms you'd use to fix those problems are lost to you. Elijah Tymon says,

00:52:30.440 if immigrant waves vote 50-50 for each party and did not threaten the GOP elections, is there still an 0.92

00:52:35.060 objection in principle to mass migration? Yes. In fact, I've honed in on this. A lot of people

00:52:42.120 originally, and Tucker has changed this, but originally, if you pay attention, all of his

00:52:46.660 arguments against mass immigration were just the mechanisms of elections. And I was always saying,

00:52:54.340 well, no, the Republican Party, the right, they need to ask themselves a question. If there was no

00:53:00.580 manipulation, if these people couldn't vote or never voted or they voted equally, would there still be

00:53:05.140 something wrong with replacing Heritage America, replacing the American stock as it is? And to answer

00:53:10.820 that question, you have to obviously look at things that are a little scary for many mainstream

00:53:16.460 conservatives. What is an American? What does it mean to have an ethnos? Is it okay to replace that 0.92

00:53:21.740 ethnos? Or is it desirable to do those things? Is there something inherently evil? I think the answer

00:53:27.300 is the American people are worth preserving as a people. So it's not just about the mechanisms of

00:53:32.940 democracy. That is one of the more expedient arguments because it happens to be absolutely true.

00:53:38.820 And many people are pushed more by political realities, sadly, at this point, than they are

00:53:44.560 more, you know, questions about like ontology, about just what it means to be as an American, to be as

00:53:53.340 an Englishman. But ultimately, if you are not willing to answer those questions, then the whole

00:54:00.180 immigration issue breaks down. Because again, something like H-1B is because become very difficult

00:54:05.240 to fight against. It's all legal. These people are supposed to be helping, right? So why shouldn't

00:54:09.300 they be here? Well, the only real answer is because they aren't American. And that means you have to 0.99

00:54:15.080 start looking at what an American is. If you don't preserve the people, there's literally nothing worth

00:54:19.680 preserving. It's like the Ben Franklin quote. It's like a man who trades his liberty for safety will get

00:54:24.300 neither. If you trade your people, your loved ones, either to natural death or abortion or

00:54:30.980 self-deportation or the crimes of mass migration and ethnic displacement, then you're not going to

00:54:37.000 conserve the GDP or values or political power because they all flow downstream from the people.

00:54:44.220 And as far as the immigration per party point, I saw this piece in City Journal the other day by

00:54:51.120 an Indian, of course. What are we doing here, guys? Why are Manhattan Institute just hiring like 1.00

00:54:55.820 troons and Indians to write puppies? Anyway, how much money is wasted in conservative, I think. 0.93

00:55:01.220 But the idea that Republicans should be reaching out to Indians, do you not understand that that

00:55:07.680 means a level of concessions to a very ethno-nepotistic bloc that basically turns you into

00:55:12.640 the Indian Party? Because I do. Because the Conservative Party in the UK had a series of Indian politicians,

00:55:17.760 like its home secretary, Priti Patel, who said that she met a guy wearing a British tie and thought

00:55:22.320 it was bigoted. And she was using the phrase living bridges to describe Indian diasporas. That phrase

00:55:27.160 comes from Modi. And Modi described Indian diasporas as essentially ethnically gerrymandering

00:55:34.260 foreign democracies to advantage India with favourable foreign policy and generous remittance

00:55:40.000 policies. So if you turn your party into an ethnic pandering engine for one or more large 0.57

00:55:46.100 immigrant client blocks, you will just get replaced.

00:55:49.940 Yeah, this is, you know, this was also laid out in Who Are We? So this is yet another Samuel

00:55:58.740 Huntington, you know, kind of predicting the future there or just really just drawing on

00:56:03.080 the past. But yeah, that's obviously the case. And you have to be aware of that dynamic.

00:56:08.260 You can't pretend that pandering and the Manhattan Institute, it's a center left think tank or

00:56:13.940 center right think tank that just happens to say you need to pander to every ethnic minority

00:56:18.640 in the United States. Who could have guessed? Who could have seen that coming? But yeah,

00:56:23.880 I think that's that's absolutely correct. And it is amazing that ultimately, you know,

00:56:28.720 guys like Piers Morgan were willing to trade their birthright for a bowl of soup like Esau,

00:56:33.260 right? Like that. I hate this Richard the third remake, my kingdom for a curry.

00:56:38.660 Right. Right. All right. Here we've got Malcolm Pollock just dropping off a donation. Thank you

00:56:46.420 very much, sir. Appreciate that. Trey Coke Nixon says, don't like the con ink attacks on Tucker,

00:56:51.760 but it's time to start calling out the halal right on their BS. His comments about Pakistani

00:56:57.060 attacks drives outrageous. He continues to downplay the threat again. Yeah, I don't think this is the

00:57:02.000 right tactic. I've pushed back against it when I've seen it from guys like Nick Fuentes, but it's also

00:57:07.800 wrong when it comes from Tucker. Sorry, Islam is not your friend. Islam is not your ally. 1.00

00:57:12.440 They are not an improvement on your shit lib, you know, neighbors or family members. They should not 1.00

00:57:18.260 be here. They need to be deported. We need a Muslim ban. We need a ban on the construction of public 1.00

00:57:24.140 mosques, you know, public calls to prayer. These things should not exist in the United States.

00:57:28.660 I don't care. I don't care what you think this violates. Just get them out of my country. 1.00

00:57:32.660 It should not be here. And anyone selling you any other version of this, they need to either rethink

00:57:39.580 their position rather seriously, or you need to start asking questions about their motivations.

00:57:43.660 Yeah, the idea that you can build a Muslim pro-white coalition when the history of interactions 0.76

00:57:50.040 between white European countries and Islam has been, oh God, they're invading our country and 1.00

00:57:54.380 attacking our women reconquista now, I think is probably short-sighted.

00:57:59.120 Anyone who's telling you that a foreign religion, a foreign culture, or anything outside of the

00:58:05.540 United States or the UK is the answer to your problem is a foreign agent. They are acting on 0.77

00:58:12.000 behalf of another people. The answer is us. We're the solution. Our culture, our religion.

00:58:19.680 That's the answer. It's not Muslims. It's not Jewish allies. It's not Hindu allies. It's none 0.97

00:58:27.220 of these things. The answer is us, our people working to improve our countries because they

00:58:33.320 love it, because they share the culture, because they worship the same God. That's the answer.

00:58:38.020 End of story. Florida Henry says, corporations destroy Southern cooking in the 80s and 90s.

00:58:44.020 If you're under 40, you missed out. Now, I'm going to take some offense here. There are,

00:58:51.040 of course, been an invasion. The Yankees are always coming for the best parts of the United States. 0.67

00:58:58.440 I understand we're all Yanks to you, but down here, that's a curse word. There's still fantastic

00:59:06.300 Southern cooking. I grew up with a grandmother who's just a phenomenal master of Southern 0.98

00:59:13.800 culinary output, so I will put it up against any and all opposing foreign slop. I won't hear any 1.00

00:59:21.540 denigration of our fine cuisine. Then we have the right-wing coalition saying,

00:59:28.660 big fan of you guys. Well, thank you very much, man. Appreciate that. Big fan of you guys being here,

00:59:33.900 supporting the show, sending your comments and questions. Really appreciate all that.

00:59:38.340 All right. So I think we have got through all the questions. Thank you once again, Connor,

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The Auron MacIntyre Show - December 03, 2025

Piers Morgan Trades UK for a Bowl of Slop ｜ Guest： Connor Tomlinson ｜ 12⧸3⧸25

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