Piers Morgan Trades UK for a Bowl of Slop ｜ Guest： Connor Tomlinson ｜ 12⧸3⧸25
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On today's show, host Tucker Carlson is joined by his good friend Connor Tomlinson to discuss Piers Morgan's recent comments on the decline of Western culture, and why he thinks curry is better than most other types of food.
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your subscription today. Slop. Why do our leaders love it so much? Why are they so desperate
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to bring in as many foreigners from as many third world countries as they can so they can
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taste whatever random thing gets thrown in a bowl and boiled up on the streets of that
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given country? It's a fascinating thing. We see it play out over and over again. Recently
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in an interview with Tucker Carlson, Piers Morgan said that he was very happy that while
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he was being replaced slowly but surely in the UK, ultimately he could eat curry and that's
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really what matters. Talking to me about that today is Connor Tomlinson. He's with, oh, I'm
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sorry. I've forgotten your, uh, Courage Media. Yes. Sorry. I forgot your current, your current
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outlet. Courage Media. He's got his own YouTube channel. Thank you so much for coming on, man.
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Hello, sir. Good to speak to you again. And as one of the last Englishmen left in London,
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I feel uniquely qualified to talk about the fall of my country in this way.
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It is very strange. You know, I've been, I've been lucky enough to go to the UK, uh, three
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times here in the last few years, uh, all of the times going through London, of course. And you
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walk in to so many different places in London and you kind of play spot the Englishmen, right? Like
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all three or four of you wandering around in any given establishment, uh, you've got, of course you
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can find as, you know, Piers Morgan said food from anywhere in the world, uh, except usually from
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England, uh, you know, very, very few people there. So it is very bizarre. It's like watching a bunch of
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kind of barbarians running around the ancient Roman ruins or something, right? Like they know there's a
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great civilization here once, uh, but today they kind of just use it to house their, you know, their curry
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shop or whatever, uh, very strange vibe. Uh, but obviously we, uh, all saw, uh, this interview, uh, well, you
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and I have seen this interview. Hopefully, uh, the audience will, we'll see this segment now. Uh, but it was
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very interesting. We'll, we'll talk about a few different parts of it, but the main part I wanted to talk
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about, of course, was this charge that ultimately as, uh, Tucker Carlson is pointing to Piers
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Morgan saying, look, how can you be okay with the changes that have occurred in your society,
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uh, over your lifetime? What, what ultimately do you think is better? And this is his response.
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Didn't you like, and has been improved by new cultures? Oh, in not most. Tell me, what didn't
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you like before? What are you glad is gone from the Brittany you grew up in? Let me tell you,
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if you came to London in the fifties and sixties, the food was crap. Absolute crap. Well, it was that
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way in the eighties when I was here. Right now we have some of the best guests on the meeting.
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Amazing. So here his answer, you know, uh, Tucker Carlson is laying out. Okay. Yes. You are seeing
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a large rise in foreigners. Uh, you're losing your culture. Uh, women are being abused. People are
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being arrested for not respecting, uh, the one true prophet of Islam more or less. And yet here,
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here you are. What, how do you ultimately justify this? What do you think is this great improvement
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that you're getting from this cultural evolution as Piers Morgan called it? And of course his answer
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is the food is better now. Now I will say, and I do not mean this as an offense to your wonderful
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people. Your food is very bad, but that's not true. No, I'm not taking that from an American.
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I'm not, I'm not doing it. Look, I love visiting the States, but we do. This is, this is absolutely
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an anti-white psyop, right? Fish and chips, uh, roast dinners, all those things. They are,
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they are, they are wholesome creature comforts. We basically have the food from the Shire.
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I understand that this may not be everyone's cup of tea, but it is a damn sight better than the
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curry. And I must say, if Piers Morgan's complicity and basically ethnocidal rhetoric can be defeated
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by a recipe book, then I must contest. He doesn't have a very strong case. Yeah. And of course you're,
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you're correct that the, the idea that ultimately, however, one evaluates British food and you are
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correct. You guys do breakfast and fish and chips better than anyone else. The rest we can, we can
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debate, but those, those two, you have doubt. Um, but, but, uh, the fact that this is such a quick
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answer for him and it is such the cliche answer. It's what we hear over and over again. Well, you know,
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we would be so boring without all these immigrants we'd have, we wouldn't have all these access to all
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this food as if no one has the ability to cook food except someone who literally comes. I mean,
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in a way that is kind of the most blood and soil version of culinary cuisine, I guess, ever. Like
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you must have the blood of a Japanese person or an Indian person or someone flowing through your
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veins before you can yourself, uh, impart it with the magic that allows that food to be good. Uh, but
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yeah, the fact that we can just look these recipes up on the internet, uh, feels like pretty much a one
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stroke solution to the problem of boring cuisine. And yet we hear over and over again, that this is
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what ultimately makes it worth it all. If I can just get the street slop, if I can just get, you
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know, whatever food is being ladled out in a street stall, that's really what matters. And whether or not,
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you know, my children can walk safely down the street and can go to school without having to worry
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about being groomed, uh, whether or not, uh, they're gonna have to worry about terrorist attack. Those things
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are all, you know, small things that we exchange part and parcel. One would say with living in an urban
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Yeah. You, that part and parcel phrase is actually what Sadiq Khan said about knife and terror attacks in
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London quite some time ago. For those who don't remember, he also said in advertisements, when he saw
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white families, this doesn't represent London. And that was an accidental admission that the English have been
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ethnically cleansed from their own city. I mean, Piers Morgan, as you said, when he was pressed on
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this by Tucker, said this was an evolution that London was now less white British. And he asked
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Tucker to name an area of London that was majority white British. And Tucker didn't name one either
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because he was staying with his family in a location that he didn't want to give away or because he
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couldn't name one. And I don't think that's an indictment of Tucker not knowing the various
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localities of London. I think that's an indictment of Piers because my answer to that would have been
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any area of London about 50 years ago when we were still about 99% white British. And this mass
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demographic vandalism, this unmitigated experiment with multiculturalism and intergenerational
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ethnic change has been run against the express wishes of the population who, and despite what my
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wonderful American friends keep telling me, did not vote for it in every election since 1974 and
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referendum and were punished with rapid demographic change. Anyway, also, as far as the idea of the,
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uh, the, the blood and soup nationalism, um, that you saw here as espousing, it's quite funny again,
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living as an Englishman, the, if it is the case that only certain people of certain extractions can
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make certain food, then why the hell are Bangladeshis making my coffee? Anytime I go into every chain
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establishment, it must, the Italian immigration must have like skipped a generation. Um, apparently it
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wasn't essential there. It's just very frustrating as well. Cause so I ratioed Piers as did many people
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underneath this post, cause that's how we do politics these days, I suppose. And I just said,
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how many child abuse instances let's euphemise it that way is worth your authentic poppadoms
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peers, because it's not a hypothetical question. You don't get to divorce the food from the sex crime.
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And we know that in London, there is one of the worst sex crimes you could imagine reported every
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single hour. It is one of the only crimes that is on the rise. When you look at these vague
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crime surveys that Fraser Nelson will point to and say, actually crime is going down.
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And the majority of those crimes in London is committed by someone who is not ethnically of
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this place. We only get the breakdowns by foreign nationality and it's between 40 and 47% of those
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crimes when charged and convicted. So lots go uncharged of course, are by men who do not hold
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a British passport. But because our government doesn't publish the ethnic data, that means that even
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more are being committed by their ethnic kin who have been given the proper documents for the state
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to say, well, they're as British as you and me, so they don't show up in the crime statistics.
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So my serious question to Piers Morgan is, how many abused children is it worth you having a
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Vindaloo? And I would assume his answer is just a sort of shrug, because that's an inconvenient
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question that stops him quite literally slop farming and engagement baiting his way to millions and
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millions of pounds. Yeah, I'm glad you brought up the evolution comments, because this is something I was
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talking about yesterday. We're dealing with this in the United States as well right now. The Trump
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administration has said they're going to end third world immigration to the United States. Come on, guys,
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let's come through with one of these. Okay, please. So that is their announcement. That's their plan.
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This has sent the Democrats into, of course, you know, ah, they're talking about ethnically cleansing,
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you know, brown people out of the United States. Now, that's a funny statement, because, you know,
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there's a negative space there, right? Like there's a, okay, if bringing brown people or stop bringing
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brown people in the country is to ethnically cleanse them out of the country, what were you doing when you
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were bringing them into the country? Yeah. Oh, wait, you were reducing the number of white people in the
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country. That was the express point. That's the part that that many of these guys are not saying,
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out loud. And of course, the same thing happening there with Piers Morgan, right? Like ultimately,
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you are not admitting that when you say you evolved Britain, what you mean is you wanted it to be less
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white, that that's what evolution means to you. That's what progress means to you. And so the
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definition of diversity, the definition of evolution, the definition of, you know, this progress is
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ultimately fewer white people in your country. And that is something that they, you know, you and I,
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if we'd said that 10 years ago, we would be sitting in the, you know, the band hammer, you know, we would
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be completely unable to speak on any given platform. Now, this is something that guys like Matt Walsh talk
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about regularly, right? We have major figures. We even have major politicians. I mean, Stephen Miller
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basically went on Fox News and laid out on Sean Hannity's show, The Great Replacement. Like here's,
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here's the plan step-by-step. The Democrats are going to ethnically replace whites in the United
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States so they can manipulate the system, get the votes in, make sure that they stay in power forever.
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And then that is, that is just the plan going forward is to ethnically replace the American stock
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so that they never lose an election again. And they're just rigging elections through demography.
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These are just questions that were completely off the table 10 years ago, and now are something that
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we see in just kind of the full mainstream. So it's been very interesting. Now, part of that,
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of course, is just that the situation has gotten too obvious and too dire, right? It's too obvious
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when Joe Biden lets in 8 million people in just one presidential term. I mean, you guys, one of the
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reasons that this has become such a big deal for you quicker than the United States is that we've been
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slowly boiling this frog much slower over a longer time. We've got a larger population. We got more
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land mass. We already had a little bit of history with black Americans and others being here early.
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So there was, while a majority Anglo-Protestant culture, there was always some level of a mixture
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of other races into the group. You guys have just been speed running, you know, dumping as many
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foreigners into your country as humanly possible. So it feels like even though we've been enduring this
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longer, you're like catching up with us at record rates and we're both just kind of slamming into
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similar walls at the same time. Yeah, I don't know what the date for heritage Americans becoming
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a minority in their own ancestral homeland is, but over in Britain, the latest numbers calculated
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by academic Matt Goodwin is by 2063, just three years shy of the symbolic Norman Conquest thousand
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year anniversary, white Brits will be a minority in their own country. And that's with present pace
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of immigration. It could be shorter if accelerated. We now know that about 20% of the population were
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born abroad. That doesn't count, of course, second or third generation immigrants, of which there are
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many because they have substantially larger family sizes than your average white Brit. Now about third
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of all births are to immigrant mothers, again, not broken down by ethnicity. And we also have about
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2 million illegals milling about in the system. And the accelerant was the Boris wave, of course, the
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importing of at least 2.9 to 4 million immigrants in the space of four years after Brexit. Bear in mind,
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the US has 1 million legal migrants every single year, and we are a country the size of New York
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State. So we've got the same level of legal migration that you guys do every single year
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in an infinitesimally small space. And Piers Morgan's response to all of this, this rapid demographic
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change, this cultural disfigurement, this terraforming of London into the majority city, which is now
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less than a third English. We don't actually know the numbers because the last census was taken before
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the Boris wave, was to shrug his shoulders and go, so what? So he's completely indifferent. He's a sort
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of, you know, eternal boomer avatar. I know he's Gen X, but the one who will literally use his last breath
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to curse you and say, pass me the naan bread, because he doesn't care about what country he hands off to his
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children and grandchildren, especially because he can either retreat to his mansion in the leafy
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suburbs of Surrey, or piss off to Beverly Hills, where he's got a veritable fortress with probably
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armed guards and a maid. But I hate to be trite, Oron. I know we hate the, what if the roles were reversed
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thing on my and your show. But allow me to contrast two scenarios for you. First of all, if an Israeli
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news anchor had said this, if he said, well, it's worth cleansing and displacing millions of
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Palestinians for the shark shuka, then Piers Morgan would have made a week's worth of content about
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it and, you know, put Dave Smith against Rabbi Shmuley and it'd get a million views and he'd line
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his pocket quite happily. But when it's white people, he doesn't care. And on the other side of
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this, Bill Maher, who just has a hard on for ethnically cleansing the English out of London,
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spoke to the trigonometry guys who, they're nice guys, I like them, but also to Sharon Osbourne and
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Bill Maher and Sharon Osbourne are ethnically Jewish. And they were sitting there, presumably
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high off spliff smoke, just saying how wonderful it is, how evolved it is that the English are now a
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minority in their own capital city and soon to be their own country. And I would just like to say,
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if it matters so, so desperately for the Palestinians or the Jews in Israel to have a claim to
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indigeneity to their various strips of sand in the middle of the Middle East, does it not matter for
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the English too? Or are we not extended claims to indigeneity or concerns about ethnic cleansing by
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our boomer media class simply because we're too pale for that?
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Obviously, there's this bizarre effort to foist upon England right now, something that is also
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prevalent in the United States. I don't think it's legitimate in the US either, but at least has
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some bearing in the United States where it really has nothing in the UK. And that is making it into
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a propositional nation, right? That ultimately, these nations are ideas, not people. It's not a
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homeland for a specific set of people. Instead, it's this thing that anyone can join and anyone can be
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a part of. It's about having English values. We just had Vivek Ramaswamy lie on stage yesterday at a
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Turning Point event and said that right before Charlie Kirk died, the last time that Vivek talked
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to him, Charlie Kirk answered the question, what is an American? And it's just anyone who works hard
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and believes in individualism and just lists off four or five things about paying taxes and going to
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Walmart and whatever. And obviously, that's not true. You can just look at Charlie Kirk's own Twitter
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and see where he talked about how we need to end H-1Bs. You can't sell American workers. You can't
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let all these people in. They're destroying our country. We are an Anglo-Protestant nation. We have
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to maintain that in order to people even be able to assimilate. You can see all of these statements,
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obviously, in Charlie Kirk's Twitter feed. So you know Vivek is at worst or at best telling some mild
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fibs and doing a little bit of opportunistic necromancy. But it's so strange to just hear
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this over and over again that it's this set of beliefs or set of actions that make you an American
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or an Englishman when that's obviously not the case for any other country in the world. And in
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America, at least it has some connection because it's like, okay, well, we are a new world nation
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instead of an old world nation. We are a collection of different European peoples originally coming over
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and kind of forming something different. There was an ethnogenesis that had to happen. So you can
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kind, if you squint, right, look at the Constitution and say, well, there maybe is an outline for how
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people can join and become American. But England, obviously, that's just not the case. That's just
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one of the places where white people come from, right? It's a homeland. There is no story of a
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melting pot of Europe coming together and forging a new land. That's just not the story that the UK
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has. So I'm wondering, I guess the easy answer is they just hate us. But is there a deeper truth
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to the fact that perhaps something about the European or specifically Anglo mind tends to
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abstract things and assume things can be abstracted and scaled out that otherwise can't? I mean, you look
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at the British Empire, you look at the American Empire. These are both, in some ways, attempts to
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to transfer the civilization outside of those original founding places. Do you think there's
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something to that? Or is it really just simple as, no, if you're a white country, you can't have a
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homeland. So you just, you know, we'll pretend there's no indigenous white people to any place
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in the world. And eventually, you know, the third world just gets to come in.
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That double standard certainly does exist. There's a lot there. So I'll try and address all of it.
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First of all, on Vivek, I saw that. I thought it was disgusting, especially after Charlie clarified
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his comments a few months away from his death when someone said if, you know, India, if all of India
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moved to America, but they're 100% Christian, would they be Americans? And he was like, no, they're
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Indians. Okay, so Vivek, you're Indian, and you're also a grifter. So stop it. Ben Shapiro tried the
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same thing in his video against Nick and Tucker, by the way, dredging up some like five-year-old clip
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of Charlie saying, e pluribus unum, and pretending his views didn't evolve. It's absolutely disgusting
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to use a dead man for your own hypocritical opinions on immigration, especially in Ben's case,
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because, you know, Israel gets to be an ethnostate, but America is just an idea, right? Anyway,
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so in terms of Britain, I mean, the nation of immigrants narrative that was cooked up by the
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ADL and JFK in the 50s and 60s was actually exported over here during the Tony Blair government
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from 1997, when famously something happened and the floodgates were opened. And it was a
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minister called Barbara Roche who did that, who unfortunately set up the Migration Museum and
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said that it was her parents' identity as being Jewish refugees that inspired her to see Britain
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as a nation of immigrants, that immigrants had built Britain, contributed to it. But as you said,
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that's just a lie. Between 1066 and 1945, we had less immigration than we did between 1997 and now.
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Since the Norman Conquest, we were 90% the same genetic stock. The Norman Conquest themselves only
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left a 5% genetic imprint throughout the entire British Isles. We were 99.9% white British until the
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Windrush rocked up in 1948, a post-colonial ship full of Jamaican immigrants, a bit like the
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Calcutta Star from Camp of the Saints, frankly, that was never invited, but has become our Mayflower
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in the sort of post-war mythology that says we were, you know, Stonehenge was built by black people
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or something. And then you've got the sons and daughters of immigrants retroactively writing
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themselves into Britain's story, like successive conservative home secretaries and now it's leader
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Kemi Badenoch who say, you know, I'm an immigrant and I'm a good thing and my family are immigrants
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and they must be good things. Therefore, every immigrant must be a good thing and therefore let
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them all in. So it's very frustrating. There's no legitimate claim to the idea that England was
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built by immigrants. Again, the very few immigrants we had were Jewish from 1066 who helped finance the
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Norman Conquest and then they were expelled by, I think, Edward II until Oliver Cromwell brought them
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back. Other than that, unless you're counting the Norman Conquests and the Viking invasions as waves of
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immigration, which then has interesting implications for the current waves of immigration, we've never
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been a nation of immigrants. The reason that we're doing this, as has been explored by the likes of
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Yoram Pozzoni and R.R. Reno and yourself, Oron, in your written work, I think this is just post-war
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consensus brain where everyone has to be treated as a blank slate as soon as you pass through the
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passport gates of Heathrow and Gatwick and by osmosis imbibe British values, which, as a quick note,
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are a formal invention by the government in 2014, the previous conservative government, by a man named
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Michael Gove, who's becoming a bit of my personal nemesis because I had an immigration debate with him
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about this and he saw fit to censor it for the spectator and hide the footage. Keep asking for the footage,
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guys. He listed on a non-white hand, the British values were democracy, tolerance, free speech, respect for
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other faiths and the rule of law. I'm surprised he didn't add cricket on a sixth, which then retroactively
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deprives the likes of King John or Henry VIII or Oliver Cromwell of being English or British because
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they weren't big fans of democracy and tolerance now, were they? The idea that you step through the
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passport gates or, you know, show up at Dover Beach and get a prayer bump from kissing the sand in
00:22:29.680
gratitude and then imbibe those values suddenly makes you as British as Hengist and Horsa or Winston
00:22:35.520
Churchill. It's a total fiction. And actually, I will say, nobody below the age of 30 buys into it.
00:22:41.380
This is why now you're getting crisis meetings held at Unheard, the sister publication of The
00:22:46.840
Spectator, about groypers that are materializing throughout the UK. And by groypers, they don't
00:22:52.080
mean fans of Nick Fuentes or anti-Semites. They mean what they say are ethno-nationalists,
00:22:56.480
basically people that don't buy the civic nationalist British values version of our
00:23:02.260
indigenous identity. And so you've got that faction developing on the under-30s that are sort of
00:23:07.020
heckling boomers who say, you can learn to be English by reading Rodyard Kipling and singing
00:23:11.040
the national anthem. And then you've got the full-throated gay race communist progressives,
00:23:15.240
largely the sons and daughters of immigrants, who definitely don't see themselves as British,
00:23:19.360
who hold long-standing ethnic and historic grudges against white people because of the
00:23:23.860
British Empire, a bit like Wajahat Ali's comments the other day, and so openly declare, like the
00:23:28.720
voters of Zora and Mamdani, hey, white people have my stuff. I want to steal that stuff and give it to
00:23:32.600
brown people. So this entire narrative, the Britain is a nation of immigrants, that English identity is not an
00:23:37.940
ethnicity, and it's a civic pledge, a scout's pledge of modish liberal values that could be anywhere,
00:23:43.920
anytime, anyplace, especially the foothills of Afghanistan. Of course, as we see that's worked
00:23:48.440
out, nobody's believing it. And this is why all of the boomer politicians are desperately tightening
00:23:54.320
their grip on containing the discourse by ostracizing critical voices, trying to stigmatize them
00:24:01.640
in the same way that Conning could try to stigmatize Tucker right now, and falling back on such desperate
00:24:05.980
defenses as Piers Morgan has of, won't you think of the food?
00:24:10.980
Yeah, that is a really interesting dynamic because, of course, we're seeing it play out in the United
00:24:16.060
States as well, of course, when you have a guy like whatever his name Ali is, a Star Wars name,
00:24:23.400
whenever you have a guy like that, just come out, and obviously, like, he's trying to make a joke,
00:24:28.260
he's trying to troll, but not, right, at all. He's just bragging, you know, saying, oh, yeah,
00:24:33.180
there's too many of us here, there's too many brown people, we're going to take your women,
00:24:36.720
your food sucks, your culture sucks, we're going to replace you, we're going to laugh at you about
00:24:40.820
it, we're conquering you, the end. Like, when you have guys come out and just announce that kind of
00:24:45.780
stuff, then you really only end up with two camps. Like, you can no longer live the boomer truth
00:24:50.420
idea that we're just, you know, the melting pot is coming together, we're assimilating all these
00:24:54.480
people, we're all going to find the common ground. No, like, you very quickly get either,
00:24:58.840
you know, two directions, either you get, you know, kind of the third world paperwork American
00:25:03.800
coalition and their accomplices, or you get kind of paleo conservatives who say, yeah, no, obviously,
00:25:09.400
the assimilation is not working, the people I see don't even want to assimilate, you know,
00:25:13.040
back in the, you know, in the 50s, the 60s, you see an immigrant, you probably could believe that
00:25:17.700
they all wanted to assimilate, they probably, you know, they came with at least the expectation
00:25:21.140
that that's what they should do. Many of them may not have, but they at least thought that that was
00:25:25.460
the expectation and what they should be doing when they approach the country. Now you have a scenario
00:25:29.980
where they just proudly announce, no, we are not assimilating, that's not happening, we're conquering,
00:25:34.800
you know, we look at what happened in California with the race riots, you know, people literally
00:25:39.720
call themselves La Raza, the race, and talking about how they're going to retake California for
00:25:45.540
Mexico, many of them weren't even Mexican, but they just wanted a foreign flag to hate America with,
00:25:50.660
like, that's kind of where we're at, at this point. And so fewer and fewer people are obviously
00:25:56.380
buying in. Now, I don't want to, I'm really tired of this debate, so I'm not going to retread all of
00:26:01.000
the people who are trying to control the right right now. The point is that obviously, there is a full
00:26:06.880
court press by the mainstream conservative movement to shut this conversation down. But the problem is
00:26:13.960
that too many influential guys, not just Tucker Carlson, but guys, again, like Matt Walsh,
00:26:19.140
who, it's really hard to hit, you know, they've tried to come at Matt a few times, you know,
00:26:24.560
shutting him down, oh, you're aligned with the Gripers, but he's just too big, he's got too much
00:26:28.260
credibility, he's been around the movement too long, you know, he's on the Daily Wire, you know,
00:26:32.620
like, he's not, like, sitting around on some crazy fringe show, like, he's on one of the biggest
00:26:37.740
platforms, one that is specifically known to be very pro-Israel, like, that's a very difficult guy to
00:26:43.560
attack on these grounds of, like, well, he's just a Griper, which is what they've tried to do with
00:26:47.740
everyone else, including me. Like, everyone who believes what Pat Buchanan wrote, they're not a
00:26:52.900
Buchananite, they're not a paleo-conservative, they're a Nick Fuentes fan, because that's the
00:26:57.760
untouchable Voldemort. But we're seeing that civil war go on, but it's just not working, like, and you
00:27:03.240
can see the desperate flailing to try to stop this evolution of the conservative movement, but it's
00:27:08.740
just so obvious that these people have no answers. You know, it was amazing when I was having that debate
00:27:13.300
with Joel Berry, and it's like, okay, what is ultimately the answers to these questions? And
00:27:19.180
there was just very little there. Like, there's just no, you know, it's like, you know, he was
00:27:24.400
shocked when I said, the conservative movement has failed in these areas. He's like, how can you
00:27:28.960
possibly say that? Like, how can you not? Like, how can you look around at everything before the Trump
00:27:35.160
movement and say that this was a success? And sorry, Trump was insurgent on the movement you're
00:27:40.320
trying to restore. Trump was a guy pushing back against established conservatism. If Trump wasn't
00:27:45.300
in office, we wouldn't even be having discussions about remigration and deportation and demographics
00:27:51.700
and all these things. These things only just became discussable under Trump. Rush Limbaugh didn't do
00:27:57.720
that, sorry. Mitt Romney didn't do that. John McCain didn't do that. Dennis Prager didn't do that.
00:28:03.880
That is a pure product of the MAGA movement and the commentariat and voters that have emerged out of
00:28:11.880
that environment. So it's just very strange to watch that generational back and forth, because like you
00:28:17.220
said, it's so polarizing. There's just nothing left of people under 30, I'd say even under 40, really,
00:28:23.440
in America, where they just kind of sit in that talk radio bubble of the center, or, you know,
00:28:28.560
I imagine something similar in Britain, where they're just trying to, the Tory boys, I think,
00:28:32.900
as they're often referred to, you know, that kind of trying to maintain that center is just failing
00:28:37.720
so disastrously for the establishment right now. Well, they're also desperate to be led by an
00:28:42.440
immigrant, and I'm not sure why, but if you guys notice, so Liz Truss got couped out basically by
00:28:47.340
the banks, the media, and her own party, and Rishi Sunak got installed as the first British Asian
00:28:51.420
prime minister, despite losing what is essentially the primary in his own party after Boris Johnson was
00:28:57.260
kicked out, and then losing the election in the worst conservative defeat for 100 years. And then they,
00:29:01.700
in an age of rising nativism and immigration opposition, the party that oversaw the largest
00:29:07.080
wave of immigration in British history, then installed a first generation Nigerian immigrant
00:29:11.460
who identifies as Yoruba and has ethnic enemies, Boko Haram, as its leader. Reform UK at the moment,
00:29:18.940
I want people to understand, is not a vehicle for getting Nigel Farage elected, it's a vehicle for
00:29:22.800
ensuring that Zia Yusuf is the first Muslim prime minister of the UK, and he's had the backing of
00:29:26.960
Michael Gove, and also Paul Marshall, who is the owner of pretty much every right-wing media
00:29:32.240
institution in Britain. I mean, Spectator, he was on the board of Unheard, sorry, of GB News, he owns
00:29:38.080
Unheard, he owns all these various think tanks, the Faros Foundation, like, there is complete
00:29:42.860
containment in the UK right now. And then they're currently positioning Shabana Mahmood, good British
00:29:48.780
name, of course, a Pakistani Muslim, who is now the Home Secretary, who is trying to sound tough on
00:29:53.400
immigration while creating new safe and legal routes to bring in Palestinians and Pakistanis
00:29:58.200
and Iranians via charter flights, as the next prime minister and the successor to Keir Starmer,
00:30:03.300
the most unpopular prime minister in British history, and you know this because she's now
00:30:06.440
doing the headline event with Tony Blair for the Tony Blair Foundation, Christmas Dinner. So keep your
00:30:11.900
eye on that one. Basically, everyone is obsessed in British politics by being led by a non-English person,
00:30:17.700
which is completely insane. I've probably said things that the chat really likes up until now,
00:30:24.100
and allow me to say something that might get me in trouble with the audience or on. I really
00:30:30.080
enjoyed your interview with Tucker. Tucker only filmed three interviews while he was in the UK,
00:30:34.360
two of them have gone out. The third one is going to be a barnstormer. I had dinner with the guy
00:30:38.360
he interviewed immediately after, and it is going to coronate a new king of the British right
00:30:42.520
in the eyes of Americans. So I appreciate what Tucker's doing. However, as someone living here,
00:30:49.200
I do not appreciate when he says, I have more in common with Bangladeshis and Pakistani taxi drivers
00:30:54.200
than I do with white leftists. I also, you know, Nick is hilarious, right? I know you've heard your
00:31:00.000
set-tos with him. I don't agree with him on all those political persuasions, and here's one of them.
00:31:04.460
I don't agree with when he said the other day on Alex Jones's show that being anti-Muslim is just a
00:31:08.860
Zionist side-up. I understand what he's trying to say, and especially the Israel First lobby
00:31:13.860
constantly complain about Muslim migration and say that Israel is fighting radical Islam, and so
00:31:19.160
therefore they're part of the Western coalition, while all of their neoconservative champions
00:31:22.940
then import millions of Muslims into the United States. George Bush, for example, or Ben Shapiro
00:31:27.540
saying he doesn't care about the browning of America, and they always say it's just radical Islam,
00:31:30.800
it's not Islam. So complete hypocrites. I understand that's what you're saying, especially because
00:31:34.300
the scale of problem is less in the US than in the UK, though if you're living in Dearborn,
00:31:39.060
Michigan, or Texas, or Minneapolis, you might dispute that. But it is not true that these people
00:31:44.120
can assimilate. It is not true that these people are more like us just because they have family values
00:31:48.220
and there's no transgenderism in madrasas. These people, out of habit or spite, are turning our
00:31:53.500
country into a third-world shithole. These people, especially when Tucker said Pakistani taxi drivers,
00:31:58.200
that is the main trafficking nexus for the infamous grooming gangs, which Tucker rightly has been
00:32:04.580
appalled by. So the idea that these are like wholesome, chungus, Muslim immigrants that we can
00:32:10.200
ally with to defeat ZOG or repudiate the pride movement, ultimately the crocodile will eat you.
00:32:19.800
And I don't appreciate how it's currently devouring my country. And so this brings me back to what you
00:32:24.100
you opened that bit with, which is the only things that encourages assimilation are you have to be
00:32:31.800
an infinitesimal minority in a country where the heritage ethnic majority is unquestionably dominant.
00:32:39.340
You have to have been invited and wanted there. You have to have cultural proximity. You have to
00:32:44.460
renounce your loyalties to your previous people. And that has to be enforced, not just the propositional
00:32:49.740
nation. I pledge my allegiance. Now let me lobby for my ethnic in-group via APAC or whatever Indian
00:32:55.640
lobby group wants H-1Bs or something. You have to adopt the religion of the state, Christianity,
00:33:00.700
in our respective countries. And then this has to happen in infinitesimally small numbers. So you
00:33:04.840
feel sufficient pressure, both financially and socially, in order to ingratiate yourself into
00:33:09.600
the tribe. It's the biblical root standard, right? Your people is my people. Your God is my God.
00:33:13.680
You marry an Israelite. And then your descendants become indistinguishable from the host
00:33:17.740
population within two generations. Now this is very difficult, even with proximate European
00:33:23.980
nations. Like when the Italians moved to the U.S. in the early 20th century, it wasn't exactly
00:33:29.180
smooth. We got some great mob movies and the Sopranos out of it, but there were still ghettos.
00:33:33.560
There was still organized crime. Okay. If Catholic Italians were difficult enough to integrate over
00:33:39.240
the period of half a century, then how the hell are you going to integrate cousin marrying,
00:33:45.080
clannish, Muslim Somalis? How is Britain going to have Whitechapel not turn into a Bengali slum
00:33:54.320
when it imports Bangladeshis or not have grooming gangs when it imports Pakistanis from the peasant
00:34:01.160
villages of Mirpur? It's not going to happen. These people just do these things naturally. It's like
00:34:05.200
that video of the beaver building a dam out of cuddly toys. It's just their nature. So the only solution
00:34:09.840
is, and I would urge the Trump administration, if we're going to do a little bit of chimping,
00:34:15.220
as well as trusting the plan here, I would urge the Trump administration to add Pakistan,
00:34:20.580
Bangladesh, India, China, and a bunch of other countries to its very tepid 19 third world immigration
00:34:27.940
country ban. Because if you don't do that within a couple of election cycles, you're going to get
00:34:32.880
demographically replaced just like my country is. Yeah, of course, I absolutely agree with that.
00:34:38.380
I've called many times for a ban on Chinese immigration at the very least. It's insane that
00:34:43.340
we say these people are our greatest geopolitical rivals. And also, we're going to import as many of
00:34:49.220
them as we want. And we'll actually educate them in our universities and make sure that they get these
00:34:53.960
anchor baby citizenship gangs going. It is absolutely crazy that that's the way that it works. And I
00:35:02.880
agree with you, again, when it comes to the, you know, the enemy of my enemy of my friend mentality,
00:35:08.420
some people seem to have with this, right? Like, no matter what problems you might have with Israel
00:35:13.080
or its policies, there is no way that bringing Muslims into your country is somehow a solution
00:35:19.300
to this problem. Obviously, these people hate you. Obviously, these people are incompatible.
00:35:24.820
And it is just the height of terrible understanding of relations to say, okay, well, yes, someone in my
00:35:33.480
country, someone who's part of my extended family, my nation, they don't believe the way I should. So
00:35:39.200
I should just replace them because that's what the left is doing. It's just the same. It's just a
00:35:42.940
mirror version of what the left is doing. If you had if you have a, you know, a stupid liberal family
00:35:49.140
member, you might disagree with them. But at the end of the day, like, you don't just swap them out
00:35:53.980
for some more based guy from Kenya. Like, that's not how it works. You know, you don't just sit him
00:35:59.600
down at the dinner table and say, okay, sorry. You know, Uncle Pat with his stupid liberal ideas is
00:36:05.160
gone. You know, you're the new family member. Now, the same is true with the nation. The nation is
00:36:11.000
extended family. You treat these people as family, even when they're wrong, and you teach them
00:36:16.600
why they're wrong. You don't you don't just replace them with the kind of people that you
00:36:20.660
think would vote for you for any given election cycle. Because of course, the dynamic in America,
00:36:24.500
and I made this joke several times, but we're about to hit the tipping point. You know, the joke used
00:36:28.700
to be, you know, the global American empire can make Muslims gay before Muslims can make America,
00:36:34.720
you know, halal or whatever, right? Like, that used to be the case. Like we were just,
00:36:40.640
you know, you look at a guy like Mom Donnie, you know, this is obviously not a serious Muslim. This is a guy
00:36:45.840
who's, you know, championing transgender rights and everything. But eventually, you hit a critical
00:36:51.240
mass of Muslims, and then they actually do just start imposing their will. Rather than having the
00:36:56.680
children of Muslims assimilate to the wider kind of gray goo Americans, the slop leftist culture,
00:37:03.560
instead, they actually start retaining those Islamic beliefs, and they build enough critical mass in
00:37:11.420
different areas, they can build enclaves to protect their beliefs, and then push them, you know,
00:37:16.560
on onto the wider public. So that's not a game you want to play, because in on neither side of that
00:37:22.340
equation, are these guys your allies, when they're becoming leftists to push, you know, the global
00:37:27.220
agenda, they're not your friends. And then once they get here in a high enough concentration to become
00:37:32.940
radical Sharia law, you know, in enclaves, they're not your friends either, right? So they're either way,
00:37:40.080
they're going to be against you. The idea that teaming up with these people at all is wise is
00:37:45.540
just absolutely insane. So I think, and I have called openly, I did a, I think, I think I did a
00:37:52.900
episode about two weeks ago calling for a Muslim ban, like we just, this needs to be done. There's
00:37:58.000
no reason this should be happening. But, you know, obviously, we see a lot of people too weak, even on
00:38:03.340
the right to call for similar things. Now, one other thing I wanted to talk to you about before we go too
00:38:08.760
long is that the other thing highlighted in that interview with Piers Morgan and Tucker Carlson
00:38:17.380
was the fact that you guys have just lost freedom of speech. It's funny because you were listing the
00:38:21.660
British values on your hand, like free speech and rule of law. It's like, well, two of those five are,
00:38:29.900
there are no longer British values. Those don't exist at all. But, you know, Tucker really laid in
00:38:35.140
to Piers Morgan saying, you know, you won't say these specific words because if you do,
00:38:40.340
you know, the government is coming for you. Like not just you're going to lose your platform,
00:38:44.500
not just you're going to get demonetized on YouTube. But if you say these words, like the
00:38:49.220
government will knock on your door and you could go to jail. And Piers Morgan's like, oh, no, no,
00:38:53.460
I just don't want to offend anyone. That's all. I just, I'm just worried about the offense,
00:38:57.020
which is of course ridiculous because obviously Piers Morgan doesn't care about offending
00:38:59.760
anyone. Like that's, you know, that's literally his, one of his schticks. But the fact that he
00:39:04.660
was just completely unwilling, it was so clear that he was completely terrified of the government,
00:39:09.280
completely terrified of the consequences. I mean, I'm sure he also has the leftist values that tell
00:39:14.480
him don't say those things, but clearly he was unwilling to transgress those because he was worried
00:39:20.120
about that was very interesting. And Tucker really nailed him down for it. Now, you recently talked
00:39:25.180
about the United States putting pressure on the UK and attempting to point out that the UK is violating
00:39:32.180
many of your rights, including the fact that it's trying to ethnically cleanse its population,
00:39:37.400
the fact that it's created a tier two justice system, the fact that freedom of speech has ended
00:39:41.780
for the native British population. Can you talk a little bit about what the Trump administration has
00:39:48.560
done, what the state department has done in speaking out on the condition in England?
00:39:53.240
I can. I will say, I think actually that Piers is just a congenital shitlib and so therefore
00:39:59.440
genuinely did not want to quote unquote offend anyone or lose out on lucrative contracts and
00:40:05.780
advertisers more so than he was afraid of being persecuted by the government because there are
00:40:09.260
certain targets the government won't go for. Like it's very much a juvenileian thing of where
00:40:14.260
like they'll, the top crust of liberal commentariat will never be threatened no matter what they say by
00:40:22.260
the state and the bottom immigrant underclass weaponized against the native population will
00:40:27.160
never be prosecuted for their anti-white racism. But every average mother and grandfather like Lucy
00:40:32.320
Connolly or the late Peter Lynch will be thrown in prison for imprudent tweets or hurty words and
00:40:37.060
either spend like two years in prison, whereas migrant sex offenders get 14 months or they'll even die in
00:40:43.460
prison in Peter Lynch's case. And this is actually a case that I raised with the state department after
00:40:47.300
their 2024 report on the state of human rights in Britain, which came out while JD Vance was visiting
00:40:53.340
and mugging her then foreign secretary, now justice secretary, David Lammy. David Lammy, by the way,
00:40:59.140
is the dumbest man in Britain. He says he's black English, which isn't even a category that exists,
00:41:05.260
but then demands reparations as a Caribbean person. He's now justice secretary. He was just abolished,
00:41:11.140
and you're not going to believe this, Oran, trial by jury. We were about to abolish trial by jury in Britain.
00:41:17.300
It's been encoded in the Doomsday Book, in the Madden Carter, in the 1689 Bill of Rights.
00:41:21.320
We gave it via common law and Blackstone's formulation to America, and now a man who looks like
00:41:25.900
Idi Amin, who thinks that Henry VII came after Henry VIII, something he said on live television,
00:41:31.540
is about to abolish trial by jury. Anyway, so that should be in the next state department report.
00:41:36.060
But the state department report of 2024 was scathing. It mentioned two-tier policing, something that
00:41:40.340
the UK government had actually emailed TikTok to get to remove content that mentioned it last summer
00:41:47.280
because they said it was damaging for Keir Starmer. They also asked TikTok to remove videos of
00:41:51.540
fighting age males, the reference to illegal migrants crossing the channel. Jim Jordan,
00:41:57.540
obviously chair of the House Judiciary Committee, complained about this, says that these editorial
00:42:02.320
standards are censoring Americans, so it's of particular interest to us. But in that report,
00:42:06.420
they mentioned migrant crimes like the murder of three girls at the dance class in Southport by
00:42:11.920
Axel Rudy Cabana, which the government had withheld evidence on. The chief constable of
00:42:16.420
Merseyside Police had actually considered, and this is according to a government report,
00:42:20.000
publishing the family's Christian background to protect Muslim communities. Now, the guy himself
00:42:26.560
appears to be going to mosque while in prison, but I don't actually think that was his motivation.
00:42:29.960
I think he's just a schizophrenic, low-IQ African who went to stab a bunch of children because he,
00:42:34.460
quote, wanted white genocide, something he had told a bunch of classmates. So all of these things are
00:42:38.680
going on. And so the State Department has now instructed embassies in the UK, Canada, across
00:42:44.240
Europe, New Zealand, and Australia to start recording migrant crime, state-funded abortion,
00:42:50.760
transgender operations on children, and other medical abuses like embryonic testing and euthanasia.
00:42:57.080
All very encouraging because our government's not doing this. Trying to
00:43:00.420
get data on the number of sex and violent crimes committed by immigrants, as I've already relayed,
00:43:06.640
is like pulling teeth. They avoid it, they don't publish it themselves, and they only ever publish
00:43:10.680
which passport they have rather than which ethnic extraction they are. So we don't get a full picture
00:43:15.120
of just how many foreign criminals that we could deport tomorrow, if we had the courage,
00:43:19.560
are in our country. And they also at the same time sent out communique to the leaders of those
00:43:23.960
respective countries saying, listen to your population, lower migration, and stop inflicting
00:43:29.480
two-tier justice on them, penalizing them for having negative opinions of minorities via social
00:43:34.860
media more than the foreign criminals committing the crimes in and of themselves. And that's happening
00:43:40.360
pretty frequently. And it's happened under pretty much every government going back to Margaret Thatcher,
00:43:44.460
by the way. So the legislation that people are getting prosecuted for, there's now 33 minimum
00:43:49.240
people being arrested for social media posts or things said in public every day. That's more
00:43:54.100
than Russia before they engaged in the war with Ukraine. I think it's about 12,000 prosecutions
00:43:59.380
a year. These are based on legislation that was passed in 1986 under Thatcher, under Tony Blair,
00:44:07.120
under the last conservative government. This is guidance, hate crime guidance, non-crime hate incidents
00:44:13.180
being recorded against members of the public because the police were called institutionally racist
00:44:17.000
in 1999 by Britain's equivalent of a George Floyd case, the Stephen Lawrence murder, and so have
00:44:23.480
been launching an anti-racist inquisition against members of the public's private thoughts to equip
00:44:28.240
themselves with that allegation ever since. And every government, including this one, have entrenched
00:44:33.380
the legislation, exacerbated it, and now we've got thousands of people being prosecuted for it,
00:44:37.540
while, yet again, the grooming gangs are still an ongoing scandal. And this is, if I may, just one
00:44:42.920
comment on that previous discussion. This is why you can't have peace with such people, because the
00:44:49.560
entire government censorship apparatus, the total state that you've written and spoken so eloquently
00:44:54.120
about, exists to protect the feelings of these minorities based on the belief that if you just
00:44:59.800
stop people noticing differences, the blank slate will be true and everyone will be equal. So it's a
00:45:04.860
fundamentally egalitarian project. It's ratcheting towards us all living in John Lennon's Imagine,
00:45:09.400
and instead you're getting Liberia, or South Africa, or Lebanon manifesting on our streets instead.
00:45:16.240
And the reason why you can't ally with Muslims as the right wing is, one, they vote overwhelmingly
00:45:21.280
left, or increasingly for their own independent Muslim MPs in my country, but two, because the
00:45:28.120
Pakistani grooming gangs has nothing to do with their opposition to Israel. In 2016, the head of the
00:45:32.800
Ramadan Foundation wrote after three of his cousins were convicted for participating in a grooming gang in,
00:45:39.280
I think it was Rotherham. He wrote that Pakistanis living in Britain know this is going on, and they
00:45:46.380
bury their heads in the sand because, quote, they don't want to be seen as siding with the white
00:45:51.200
enemy. So this is an explicitly racial and religious crime that has nothing to do with geopolitics.
00:45:57.240
They're not here because of American and British adventurism in the Middle East. They just hate white
00:46:01.660
people, and they want to abuse their children. So there is no allying with them. The state actively
00:46:06.100
protects them, rather than the native children being abused and trafficked. Read some of the
00:46:11.120
transcripts that have just come out today from Open Justice. It's literally war crimes, and they
00:46:14.900
should be prosecuted as such. And so the only way to get rid of this censorship artifice isn't just
00:46:19.500
to change the government, isn't just to repeal the laws that put it in place, but is to denaturalize
00:46:24.580
and deport every single person that these laws are protecting, starting with the Pakistani enclaves that have
00:46:29.120
been abusing these children, which, I'm sorry, Tucker, you can't befriend.
00:46:33.700
Yeah, again, can't agree with that enough. So before we go to the questions of the people,
00:46:40.800
I'm going to ask you something. And this, to be clear, this is not blackpilling. Both of our
00:46:45.200
countries can and will be saved. But one of the conversations that I often have back and forth
00:46:52.760
with those across the pond is, which country is more cooked? Like, which one has to go,
00:46:59.380
has further to go? When I look at the UK, I often think, man, it's almost like you guys only exist to
00:47:05.980
remind me that it could be worse, right? Like, whatever we're facing, it always feels like you
00:47:11.060
guys are just two steps ahead in the dystopian thing. But at the same time, I will have people in
00:47:16.840
the UK say, no, actually, just our total numbers, our percentages are better, we have a better chance
00:47:22.600
once we actually have a real government of turning this over. You know, we have a longer history that
00:47:27.640
will allow us to kind of recoalesce into a people much faster than the Americans. So in your mind,
00:47:34.500
which country do you think has a farther climb to get back to something that is sustainable and good
00:47:40.440
for its people? Possibly yours, because the sheer scale of the bureaucracy, the capitulation to the
00:47:48.160
judiciary and the unmanageability of your empire, all of which you documented at length is a much
00:47:54.400
larger problem than us. Again, we're the demographic change, the cultural disfigurement, just the
00:48:00.440
aesthetics of everything that's happened is a lot more concentrated and felt. And our population are
00:48:06.960
much more awake to the problems than I think a lot of the American public are. You're still
00:48:11.960
relatively split between Republicans and Dems. And the Dems are just the trans the kids open the
00:48:17.080
borders party at this point. You know, Kamala Harris didn't come that far from winning, let's be fair.
00:48:22.520
Still got like 70 odd million votes. So in the UK, immigration is number one issue. And the party
00:48:27.000
that is posturing as being anti-immigration is the number one party with a double the share lead over
00:48:32.740
everyone else. And because of the parliamentary system, if you get a sufficiently courageous
00:48:37.980
government that understands which laws to get rid of on day one, that's willing to fire the civil
00:48:41.760
service, that's willing to make use of the Shemima Begin principle to denaturalize and deport
00:48:46.140
pretty much every troublesome third worlder that's settled here in the last 50, 60, 70 years, 80 years
00:48:52.860
even, then we can clean up this country within one parliamentary cycle. And I'm very bullish on that.
00:48:57.680
I'm with Curtis Yarvin, actually, whether it's because he believes in accelerationism,
00:49:01.520
or whether it's because I understand the parliamentary processes that can actually
00:49:04.860
fix this problem. I think Britain is closer, theoretically, to being resolved. The problem
00:49:10.760
that we have is a lack of political courage and a succession crisis. So I know people are questioning
00:49:18.520
whether or not J.D. Vance is the man. I happen to think, and from people that know Vance and are
00:49:24.320
trustworthy, that he probably is the guy and he's willing to do what's right. I think just the bureaucracy
00:49:29.740
is going to get in his way, as it seems to be with the Trump administration and making certain
00:49:33.640
concessions. The problem in the UK we have is that we only have maybe one great MP, which is
00:49:39.940
Rupert Lowe, and he currently doesn't have a party. He is currently banned from pretty much every
00:49:44.560
mainstream media apparatus, despite being the most popular on social media in the country,
00:49:48.520
and commanding 10 points in polls on his own without a party. So that's pretty seismic. He has no
00:49:54.680
route to power. Instead, it looks like Nigel Farage is going to be the next prime minister who has no
00:49:57.940
eye for detail, and as Rupert jokes, is a beech tree under which whom nothing grows. And instead,
00:50:02.560
he's probably just going to retire, even possibly midway through a parliamentary term, and hand it
00:50:06.480
off to Zia Yusuf, and hey, presto, we get our right-wing liberal first Muslim prime minister that
00:50:12.120
nobody actually likes. He's basically our Vivek Ramaswamy, so keep a close eye on him. He's utterly
00:50:15.900
insufferable. Called the police on Rupert Lowe, by the way, and had his house raided and his shotguns
00:50:20.020
confiscated for speech in the middle of the night. So whether or not we have a sufficient
00:50:25.700
Caesar figure, or a courageous political class, to take advantage of our slightly better legal and
00:50:32.700
constitutional position remains to be seen. I don't think so, but we've still got possibly
00:50:37.300
four years, and so we just need, through sheer force of will, to bring that next political class
00:50:43.820
and that figure to the fore. If we don't, I don't know how long we've got left.
00:50:49.160
All right, guys. Well, we're going to go ahead and wrap up this portion. We're going to head into
00:50:53.920
the questions of the people, but before we do, Connor, where can people find your great work?
00:50:58.500
They can find my content over on YouTube, just under my name, Connor Tomlinson. They can find
00:51:02.820
me on Substack, under the same name, or under Tomlinson Talks. Courage Media is undergoing a
00:51:07.840
restructure at the moment. We're still posting some essays there. We're trying to make it the right-wing
00:51:11.420
version of the Atlantic, basically, because we have very few citadels under our control. And you can
00:51:16.360
find me on Twitter, incessantly tweeting about demographics and migration. What else is there to
00:51:21.300
talk about? At con underscore Tomlinson. Excellent. All right, guys. Well, let's head over to your
00:51:27.480
questions here real quick. We have Cherry Coke Nixon saying, re-immigration is the issue of our
00:51:32.060
generation. It will be a long, hard, and struggle. We may not see victory in our lifetime, but it must
00:51:36.760
be the core issue on the right going forward. Boomers, step aside. And yeah, basically, I've said the
00:51:42.360
same myself. We have to deport. We have to close the border. There are no other options, especially if we're
00:51:48.840
going to continue to operate as a liberal democracy. You simply, if that was the only reason, just
00:51:55.420
mechanically, you cannot allow that to happen. Now, there's also a deep evil in ethnically cleansing
00:52:00.780
both America and Britain. But if you just need to put things in the terms of political existential
00:52:08.360
issues, if you continue to have this level of immigration, you simply will never win an election
00:52:13.700
again. And therefore, no change will ever occur again in either country. So that really is the
00:52:19.460
beginning and the end of the issue. If you don't fix this problem, you literally can't fix any other
00:52:23.500
problem because the mechanisms you'd use to fix those problems are lost to you. Elijah Tymon says,
00:52:30.440
if immigrant waves vote 50-50 for each party and did not threaten the GOP elections, is there still an
00:52:35.060
objection in principle to mass migration? Yes. In fact, I've honed in on this. A lot of people
00:52:42.120
originally, and Tucker has changed this, but originally, if you pay attention, all of his
00:52:46.660
arguments against mass immigration were just the mechanisms of elections. And I was always saying,
00:52:54.340
well, no, the Republican Party, the right, they need to ask themselves a question. If there was no
00:53:00.580
manipulation, if these people couldn't vote or never voted or they voted equally, would there still be
00:53:05.140
something wrong with replacing Heritage America, replacing the American stock as it is? And to answer
00:53:10.820
that question, you have to obviously look at things that are a little scary for many mainstream
00:53:16.460
conservatives. What is an American? What does it mean to have an ethnos? Is it okay to replace that
00:53:21.740
ethnos? Or is it desirable to do those things? Is there something inherently evil? I think the answer
00:53:27.300
is the American people are worth preserving as a people. So it's not just about the mechanisms of
00:53:32.940
democracy. That is one of the more expedient arguments because it happens to be absolutely true.
00:53:38.820
And many people are pushed more by political realities, sadly, at this point, than they are
00:53:44.560
more, you know, questions about like ontology, about just what it means to be as an American, to be as
00:53:53.340
an Englishman. But ultimately, if you are not willing to answer those questions, then the whole
00:54:00.180
immigration issue breaks down. Because again, something like H-1B is because become very difficult
00:54:05.240
to fight against. It's all legal. These people are supposed to be helping, right? So why shouldn't
00:54:09.300
they be here? Well, the only real answer is because they aren't American. And that means you have to
00:54:15.080
start looking at what an American is. If you don't preserve the people, there's literally nothing worth
00:54:19.680
preserving. It's like the Ben Franklin quote. It's like a man who trades his liberty for safety will get
00:54:24.300
neither. If you trade your people, your loved ones, either to natural death or abortion or
00:54:30.980
self-deportation or the crimes of mass migration and ethnic displacement, then you're not going to
00:54:37.000
conserve the GDP or values or political power because they all flow downstream from the people.
00:54:44.220
And as far as the immigration per party point, I saw this piece in City Journal the other day by
00:54:51.120
an Indian, of course. What are we doing here, guys? Why are Manhattan Institute just hiring like
00:54:55.820
troons and Indians to write puppies? Anyway, how much money is wasted in conservative, I think.
00:55:01.220
But the idea that Republicans should be reaching out to Indians, do you not understand that that
00:55:07.680
means a level of concessions to a very ethno-nepotistic bloc that basically turns you into
00:55:12.640
the Indian Party? Because I do. Because the Conservative Party in the UK had a series of Indian politicians,
00:55:17.760
like its home secretary, Priti Patel, who said that she met a guy wearing a British tie and thought
00:55:22.320
it was bigoted. And she was using the phrase living bridges to describe Indian diasporas. That phrase
00:55:27.160
comes from Modi. And Modi described Indian diasporas as essentially ethnically gerrymandering
00:55:34.260
foreign democracies to advantage India with favourable foreign policy and generous remittance
00:55:40.000
policies. So if you turn your party into an ethnic pandering engine for one or more large
00:55:46.100
immigrant client blocks, you will just get replaced.
00:55:49.940
Yeah, this is, you know, this was also laid out in Who Are We? So this is yet another Samuel
00:55:58.740
Huntington, you know, kind of predicting the future there or just really just drawing on
00:56:03.080
the past. But yeah, that's obviously the case. And you have to be aware of that dynamic.
00:56:08.260
You can't pretend that pandering and the Manhattan Institute, it's a center left think tank or
00:56:13.940
center right think tank that just happens to say you need to pander to every ethnic minority
00:56:18.640
in the United States. Who could have guessed? Who could have seen that coming? But yeah,
00:56:23.880
I think that's that's absolutely correct. And it is amazing that ultimately, you know,
00:56:28.720
guys like Piers Morgan were willing to trade their birthright for a bowl of soup like Esau,
00:56:33.260
right? Like that. I hate this Richard the third remake, my kingdom for a curry.
00:56:38.660
Right. Right. All right. Here we've got Malcolm Pollock just dropping off a donation. Thank you
00:56:46.420
very much, sir. Appreciate that. Trey Coke Nixon says, don't like the con ink attacks on Tucker,
00:56:51.760
but it's time to start calling out the halal right on their BS. His comments about Pakistani
00:56:57.060
attacks drives outrageous. He continues to downplay the threat again. Yeah, I don't think this is the
00:57:02.000
right tactic. I've pushed back against it when I've seen it from guys like Nick Fuentes, but it's also
00:57:07.800
wrong when it comes from Tucker. Sorry, Islam is not your friend. Islam is not your ally.
00:57:12.440
They are not an improvement on your shit lib, you know, neighbors or family members. They should not
00:57:18.260
be here. They need to be deported. We need a Muslim ban. We need a ban on the construction of public
00:57:24.140
mosques, you know, public calls to prayer. These things should not exist in the United States.
00:57:28.660
I don't care. I don't care what you think this violates. Just get them out of my country.
00:57:32.660
It should not be here. And anyone selling you any other version of this, they need to either rethink
00:57:39.580
their position rather seriously, or you need to start asking questions about their motivations.
00:57:43.660
Yeah, the idea that you can build a Muslim pro-white coalition when the history of interactions
00:57:50.040
between white European countries and Islam has been, oh God, they're invading our country and
00:57:54.380
attacking our women reconquista now, I think is probably short-sighted.
00:57:59.120
Anyone who's telling you that a foreign religion, a foreign culture, or anything outside of the
00:58:05.540
United States or the UK is the answer to your problem is a foreign agent. They are acting on
00:58:12.000
behalf of another people. The answer is us. We're the solution. Our culture, our religion.
00:58:19.680
That's the answer. It's not Muslims. It's not Jewish allies. It's not Hindu allies. It's none
00:58:27.220
of these things. The answer is us, our people working to improve our countries because they
00:58:33.320
love it, because they share the culture, because they worship the same God. That's the answer.
00:58:38.020
End of story. Florida Henry says, corporations destroy Southern cooking in the 80s and 90s.
00:58:44.020
If you're under 40, you missed out. Now, I'm going to take some offense here. There are,
00:58:51.040
of course, been an invasion. The Yankees are always coming for the best parts of the United States.
00:58:58.440
I understand we're all Yanks to you, but down here, that's a curse word. There's still fantastic
00:59:06.300
Southern cooking. I grew up with a grandmother who's just a phenomenal master of Southern
00:59:13.800
culinary output, so I will put it up against any and all opposing foreign slop. I won't hear any
00:59:21.540
denigration of our fine cuisine. Then we have the right-wing coalition saying,
00:59:28.660
big fan of you guys. Well, thank you very much, man. Appreciate that. Big fan of you guys being here,
00:59:33.900
supporting the show, sending your comments and questions. Really appreciate all that.
00:59:38.340
All right. So I think we have got through all the questions. Thank you once again, Connor,
00:59:43.240
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