Rocky and The Prudentialist recap their trip to Nashville to attend the Skildings Conference, a conservative conference put on by the Beowulf Foundation. They also talk about their favorite parts of the event and answer questions from the audience.
00:01:39.120But yeah, no, that had a fun time on the way back.
00:01:42.800But yeah, no, it was really great to catch up with everybody.
00:01:45.440And like I said, we'll talk a little bit about what happened, our favorite parts about it, what we think is kind of good things that have come out of the event.
00:01:53.080Like I said, we'll probably have more people kind of joining us as time goes on.
00:01:58.900This is also kind of just serving as kind of a casual ask me anything stream as well as, you know, kind of an after action report for the Skildings Conference.
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00:04:34.520And I was making, you know, Magic Arena videos.
00:04:38.180You know, this is my background for the things you're doing.
00:04:40.760So it was fun to meet a lot of people who have been, you know, kind of along for the ride for a long time and get to put names with kind of faces or, you know, internet handles, I guess, with faces and everything.
00:05:29.100But no, I mean, it's always good to see and hear from the people that listen that you consider colleagues or fellow travelers and things like that.
00:05:37.920And it's a warm sense of camaraderie to know that you aren't alone physically.
00:05:42.520Like we can always see it by like the people that are watching it on chat or that are sending you questions and things like that.
00:05:48.400But it's a lot different when you get to shake their hand and buy them a drink or ask what they thought of the latest talk or what's going on in the world.
00:05:57.060So it was just a genuine pleasure to see people I had already met, but it had been like a year and some change.
00:06:02.860So it was like a nice way to have the gang back together again.
00:06:07.260Yeah, I didn't get to go to it last year.
00:06:09.080And so it was definitely great to be able to participate this year and get to speak and everything.
00:06:27.780But those are still pretty mainstream.
00:06:30.540It's still, you know, a lot of people who are talking to mainstream publications.
00:06:36.040This was good because it was really a lot of guys, again, from very much our neck of the woods.
00:06:41.200It really allowed you to kind of meet people that you had always, you know, seen on Twitter or seen in the stream chats of different events that you had always talked to on different, you know, unpopular opinion shows or something.
00:06:58.160But you actually got to see those people in person.
00:08:02.120Yeah, I mean, it was it was a good crop of many returning speakers from the previous year.
00:08:08.140You did have your heavy hitters like David the Distributus, Charlemagne and Radical Liberation, Stephen Carson.
00:08:14.720And so just to also see the new crop of like fresh blood from the what's happened over the last year and a half and where the direction of our conversation is going.
00:08:24.620Like last year, everyone was kind of nervous to just see, well, like, well, we've never done this sort of thing before, so let's see how it goes.
00:08:30.680And by the end of the event last year, everyone was like, OK, we we know why we're here.
00:08:46.880We have a theme for what we're discussing.
00:08:48.900And this is how we're going to hash it out over the course of this, you know, three, three, well, two days and one and three nights of discussion, which was very fruitful.
00:08:59.120Yeah, it was also really nice to see the level of camaraderie.
00:09:02.800I was not there last year, so I didn't get to see kind of how some of this formed.
00:09:08.640But you could already tell how close many people had kind of become over that year.
00:09:30.260It was really great to see some people coming around, you know, guys like Ryan Turnipseed and Bagby, who had experienced, you know, cancellations and just the amount of support.
00:09:41.360And the outpouring of, you know, kind of goodwill for them.
00:09:44.660And you could tell how much, you know, Ryan gave a very moving kind of, you know, just, you know, thank you to everyone who had kind of gathered around him and rallied around him and given him that moral support.
00:09:56.160So it was just really fantastic to see those friendships forming the people who had who had spent some time together, maybe maybe had been hesitant about seeing each other in real life, you know, in the first event, really bonding, becoming friends and building those kind of those kind of relationships that can only exist once you finally met in real life.
00:10:16.920You know, shaking the hand, broken the bread, just really encouraging.
00:10:21.460Yeah, I mean, that was one of the best parts about it, right, is to put names to faces and recognize that, you know, the things that we talk about over on streams and discussion can also translate into the real world quite easily.
00:10:33.640And that there are organizations such as the Fayetteville Foundation and whatnot that are putting things really where sort of like they're trying to walk the walk now that everyone's sort of been talking the talk now for quite some time on the Internet.
00:10:45.300And it's just like, well, we want to facilitate more people just making friends with like minded political ideas.
00:10:52.700We want to make sure that, you know, if you're out in the cities, there's probably someone that we know on the Internet that is in your area and that you can have friendships with those people and to do things that aren't necessarily politically related, but to, you know, go hiking, bowling, visiting like national historical sites and whatnot.
00:11:08.080And so that was probably something that is the real mainstay takeaway from it all.
00:11:12.860But I mean, the discussions were focused around this concept of forging foundations like it was very much of we know why we're here to discuss, you know, positive and negative visions going forward.
00:11:25.420What are those visions going to look like?
00:11:28.640How can we affirm the ideas that we already have been talking about?
00:11:31.800And what does it really mean in sort of this world of hectic anarcho-tyranny that how do we keep going forward and or how do we organize?
00:11:41.280And that was the myriad of discussion was held on that in the speeches.
00:11:45.020Yeah, it was really nice to see that mix.
00:11:47.480You know, you it's weird because I had never really spoken at a conference like this.
00:11:52.820I had not had that opportunity before.
00:11:55.300I'm used to, you know, I was a teacher, so I'm used to kind of speaking in front of people.
00:11:59.320But, you know, when you go into these situations that some of these are going to be kind of motivational speeches, they're going to be there to raise people's spirits.
00:12:08.280And that's where, you know, speeches like yours and Dave's really, you know, rang in, you know, in those did that uplifted people.
00:12:16.500And then you had the speeches, you know, that I thought there were going to be more technical speeches.
00:12:21.480But I think mine was, you know, the only one doing the technical thing.
00:12:24.080I kind of felt bad because I was the one who decided to to geek out while everybody else was was doing very heartfelt speeches in many ways.
00:12:32.340And then we had a number of guys who did very practical ones.
00:13:16.880Yeah, I mean, it was a healthy mix of sort of the lofty idealism versus well, not even just versus because I think idealism also has to be translated into, well, how do you put ideas into practice?
00:13:29.280I think everyone had a little bit of that.
00:13:32.040And I think that, you know, everything that we've talked about, either you and I together or separately in our own work was addressed.
00:13:38.080I mean, everything from like Carl Schmitt's political biology to practical business skills that would be necessary to hire people, references to other existing institutions that are helpful and friendly to the side.
00:13:51.820You know, whether that be the Bayouville Foundation or here in the United States, new founding to make sure that you can get hired by people that aren't going to fire you because you think men are men and women are women.
00:14:00.920So it was an excellent way to sort of understand that, you know, we can talk about these high minded political ideals, but we can also translate them quite well into mechanics.
00:14:10.560And I mean, your PowerPoint presentation, speech discussion lecture did a really good job of that sort of explaining that, like, what people call wokeness, you know, it's not going away.
00:14:20.740It's this, you know, general homogenizing sort of ideology that is going to be here for some time, because that's how you get power.
00:14:28.280And it's important for us to understand how things work mechanically so we can develop the tools, organizations and systems to get around that or to facilitate power.
00:14:38.560It was also really great that the rad libs were just absolutely lovely people like, you know, of course, I've talked to Stephen so many times online and I always knew he's a great guy.
00:14:50.660But they really they really brought that kind of mentorship, kind of, you know, warm paternalistic aspect to everything.
00:15:00.440You could tell that everyone was was really glad to see them.
00:15:04.160There was a number of other you'd be surprised.
00:15:15.720But there were a number of people who were very excited about what is happening kind of in these spheres with with the younger people, with many of the zoomers or millennials who are trying to build things, who are taking these the issues seriously, who are putting in the work.
00:15:30.900They were very encouraged and they were very excited.
00:15:34.020Again, it was just nice to see kind of this cross section of, yeah, you have, you know, you have Catholics and Orthodox and evangelicals.
00:16:19.380It's very easy to get petty and put into your own little Internet ghetto and have everybody argue over little doctrinal differences or strategic differences.
00:16:30.020But when you're sitting there, you're shaking someone's hand, you realize that you share so much more with these people than you disagree with them with.
00:16:38.000And it becomes very easy to kind of cross those bridges and find a way forward that's really going to help everyone out.
00:16:46.040I mean, that was the big thing that we took away from it yesterday or last year's event.
00:16:49.620And I was very happy to see that translate over.
00:16:52.180This is that, you know, if you're on Twitter, if you're, you know, you see people responding to other people with YouTube videos or essays or streams covering other people's content.
00:17:00.260Like, you know, the content grind or what people call like, you know, e-drama or whatever, that disappears out the window instantaneously.
00:17:07.440The moment you shake their hand and you're here to actually work and do business.
00:17:11.480And that's like the real pleasant thing about it is that all that sort of troll gazing, navel gazing on the Internet, you know, it very much is an online phenomenon.
00:17:21.640It's not those type of people really don't exist in the real world.
00:17:24.580And if they do, like, you know, those are the narcissists that didn't like show up or they decided to just tweet about it rather than come to the event itself.
00:17:31.400So it was a pleasure to know that despite very real differences in, say, backgrounds or socializations, religion or ideologies, that, no, we actually can come together and work very quickly and efficiently to address the problems of modernity today.
00:18:24.840Everyone wants to hear what everybody has to say.
00:18:26.700They're, you know, they're making those connections.
00:18:30.200We saw the old Glory Club was a big function this year.
00:18:34.860They were a big part of the event, working on kind of that mutual aid and fraternal order type of option that allows people to get together, basket weave, build those, that camaraderie.
00:18:47.840And allows them to do it locally in a local chapter that is still very specific and centered around the interests and needs of the community that it's in, but still has the ability to kind of work together in kind of a confederal way with each other.
00:19:03.120And so that you have kind of that structure when they need it.
00:19:08.460I mean, this is where everyone is really getting to show what they've been working on, not just within their speeches, but also the organization and the need to actually make sure that there are tangible infrastructure on the ground that people can rely on and that they can use.
00:19:23.960I mean, yeah, the old Glory Club was there, they had outlined their projects and plans for chapters that will allow people to have sort of that fraternity and to ensure that they can work together, whether it be, you know, preserving historical documents or being aware of like the history of their own state or chapter.
00:19:41.240And talking about, you know, how they can work on local issues that matter to them and know that they aren't alone, while also on the broader picture, you know, work with and learn from other organizations that can ensure if someone is, you know, canceled or if we have someone who's been like one of our people that's been affected by a natural disaster, we can take care of them because that was a commonly held practice and tradition, you know, a century ago in this country.
00:20:08.540And we would like to bring it back. And I think that as we've kind of seen this sort of collapse of competency in our government, you're going to want to rely on those that you can trust and that you can rely on.
00:20:19.080And I think that that was a really big hounding theme, not just out of the organizations that were present, but also the talks.
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00:20:56.500And it's also really great, you know, obviously, you guys, if you haven't been to one of these events,
00:21:02.620you're probably mostly just seeing content creators, right?
00:21:06.400Which is certainly part of the scene, for sure.
00:21:09.100There are certainly content creators there.
00:21:11.000But a lot of people talking there weren't content creators at all.
00:21:14.100A lot of people in attendance weren't content creators at all.
00:21:16.640They're bringing very specific skills.
00:23:10.100And people were recognizing that, like, everyone's got a role to play in the years ahead when we I think everyone is kind of on board with the agreement that like things will get worse before they get better.
00:23:20.860And you're going to want a good cadre of people that know how to take care of things when things are no longer being maintained by sovereign authority in the United States.
00:23:31.420So, I mean, that was a very pleasant thing to see alongside the fact that those people who aren't the content creators asking questions with the speeches or asking, like, how can we get involved in things?
00:23:43.000You know, illustrating that there are a lot more people that aren't just, you know, the commentariat class, not to dig it ourselves, but like, you know, there are people out there that are just like, well, these are things that I've done before in the past with like small businesses and like, who should we be targeting?
00:23:58.080And it's just like, well, those are the people that you really want on your side when push comes to shove.
00:24:03.680And so it was a pleasure to see, you know, the diversity of skill set, but like also just the age range, you know, you had plenty of people that were Stephen's age or older than, you know, you or Stephen, just asking, like, well, how do we get involved?
00:24:16.080Like, because I've been just depressed with the Republican Party for like 40 years.
00:24:19.380And it's just like, well, welcome to the Internet, you know, like, it's nice that you're here.
00:24:23.200So we'll work on getting you involved.
00:24:28.460Yeah, it's really encouraging to see these guys who are kind of elder statesmen who have, you know, that that gravitas, that experience, that position of leadership, possibly, or that that potential for leadership.
00:24:40.880But like you said, they've been trapped in the Republican machine for years or they've been, you know, they've just been doing things or looking for opportunities and not really finding them.
00:24:50.300And then they see this group of kind of young guys getting together, motivated, have a new avenue, have a new, you know, outlook, and they're excited.
00:25:01.020This is what they have been looking for.
00:25:03.120And so it was really it was really nice to see the excitement in them and, you know, that they were they were really enthused about kind of the get up and go and the ability to kind of look beyond the standard solutions and find new opportunities.
00:25:17.840And then that they wanted to jump in on that and be involved and lend their support was just extremely encouraging to be sure.
00:25:26.300So we've got a number of kind of just hellos and chats and everything that are stacking up.
00:25:33.360And guys, this is an Ask Me Anything episode.
00:25:35.300So most of this will kind of be just dedicated to talking to you guys.
00:25:39.340Like I said, I think we're going to have some more people come in, but I'm not sure we had.
00:25:43.160There's a lot of travel like my flight was delayed by three hours.
00:25:46.300I know a bunch of people who had, you know, five hour or even 24 hour delays kind of coming out of the of the event.
00:25:54.260I know Prudentialist had a pretty wild drive back, you know, so we just had a lot of travel concerns.
00:26:04.500But, you know, I'm not sure when or if people are going to be able to come in.
00:26:08.100But I did want to be able to to kind of just have this opportunity for people who were at the event to kind of share their thoughts or, you know, just chat at us while we're going and then have an opportunity for you guys, you know, just just kind of a cozy stream to hang out for a little bit.
00:26:23.780But before we do that, obviously, I have the Prudentialist and he is our international relations guy.
00:26:32.060And well, there were some international relations over the weekend that we we didn't get to comment or kind of know about so much.
00:26:40.560So I know if you're still catching up, you know, I don't want to push you too hard for a professional opinion.
00:26:44.900But I did want to just kind of get your reaction.
00:27:00.500I saw the news and I had a friend of mine who is in Russia message me and he was just like, who would have thought that Tim Pool would be right about the South and the Civil War just happened to be in southern Russia.
00:27:11.840And then he messaged me later saying, like, actually, we're all safe.
00:27:18.500All I could think about was that section from Machiavelli's The Prince about mercenaries and all that sort of the Lindiest of all Lindy concepts.
00:27:29.620I will probably put out more like I'll probably examine it a little more.
00:27:33.880But I know that the Wagner PMC group, you know, they've they've been sort of using their position as a private military organization to, you know, talk about and criticize the Russian government with war.
00:27:45.340But when you're only taking up a small column of maybe like five or six thousand men up to Rostov on Don and then not and then go back and then have the president of Russia say, like, you can join the Russian army or go to Belarus like we're not having this.
00:27:58.600So not good PR for the Russians in any way, shape or form.
00:28:02.700And this is also on the heels of what looks like a counteroffensive that did not bode well for the Ukrainians.
00:28:08.620But again, we were all kind of off our phones this weekend.
00:28:12.300So these are these are literally just hot off the press's takes.
00:28:15.640You're not getting something that's researched here.
00:28:17.400But yes, people were asking me, like, you picked a heck of a weekend to not be paying attention to the news.
00:28:22.700And I was like, good, you know, like I'm here for something else.
00:28:26.700Yeah, sometimes it's great to unplug and we barely got to look at the phone the whole time, which was great.
00:28:32.680But yeah, it turns out that the wheels didn't stop turning while we were at the event.
00:28:37.320But just for people who don't know, what is Wagner?
00:28:42.800It seems to be just like a private military contract organization.
00:28:46.360I'm very reminded of Blackwater earlier in the days of the Iraq war.
00:28:52.420But whereas there's more of a coordination between, say, like the Russian military and this organization.
00:29:00.040And I mean, they have like a corporate headquarters in, I believe, Russia.
00:29:03.140And so it just seems that they're quite well on their way of being another force that doesn't require a larger mobilization of Russian military forces.
00:29:12.500And of course, that comes with its own issues being sort of an entity that you don't see very often with respects to, you know, power conflict between like traditional nation states.
00:29:22.760So it's interesting to see in 2023 sort of privatized military contractors that sort of work in conjunction with the state that is far more in the thick of it than, say, you know, other parts of the Russian military.
00:29:39.840But I plan on doing a deep dive on them actually later this month.
00:29:44.700So I would just say stay tuned for that.
00:29:58.340So, I mean, if you want a super chat, of course, always appreciated.
00:30:01.500But if you just have a general question that you want to drop in the chat as well, just make sure that you at me when you do that so that I know that that question is for us.
00:30:11.380We'll get priority to the super chats, but we'll we'll answer other questions as well.
00:31:06.480I would definitely say that the energy in the last year's event in February of 2022 was definitely slightly different to, you know, the event that we just had over the weekend here in that people were kind of, you know, walking on eggshells at the start of last year.
00:31:23.420They weren't quite sure, you know, like, okay, am I actually with friends here, you know, like, where's the, you know, where's the Fed, you know, of course, and all that nonsense.
00:31:32.740But over the course of, you know, 36 hours, 48 hours, however long we were there for, people were, you know, discussing all manner of topics and internet drama just didn't seem to matter at all.
00:31:46.320People were sharing cigars, sharing drinks, sharing ideas, and immediately when we got to the event this year, we had maybe I'd say maybe 60% repeats and 40% new people at the event this year.
00:31:57.280And those 60% that knew people from last year recognized them immediately, everyone came up and embraced each other in hugs, everyone was buying each other drinks, they were catching up, you know, and it just seemed across the board, everybody just had improved, like, remarkably from last year, you know, people, people had gotten engaged, people had started businesses, people had, you know, developed new ideas, or what have you.
00:32:19.720But it was just immediately, I recognize friends, I recognize we're all here, we're all serious, we're all in business, let's get back to work exactly where we left off from last year, it was almost seamless, you know, as if no time had passed at all.
00:32:33.060Yeah, I hadn't been there last year, obviously, but I really got that feeling of just like, you know, a lot of personal and community W's, you know, you could really feel a lot of people excited about all this progress that had been made, all this personal improvement, all of this professional improvement, all of these different organizations and projects that had advanced, there's just a big, you know, a lot of optimism and a lot of excitement of kind of how well things had advanced,
00:33:04.100Yeah, absolutely true, for sure. You know, the the energy was just ecstatic, it was electric, I'm sure anybody in the chat who's there at the event is probably still working with their, you know, post event high, you know, right now on the hype and everything. And yeah, it was, it's a fantastic time. And everybody should, you know, absolutely come to next year's event, you absolutely will not regret it. Oh, I was walking around, I made a, I made it absolutely personal point of mind to try and talk to as many people as possible. But the issue, and I'm
00:33:32.340sure you gentlemen experienced this as well at these events is, everyone there is extremely intelligent, extremely well put together. And you just simply do not have, you know, 130 hours at a conference to talk to each person for one hour, because you will end up talking to any one person for one hour, because they all have something to say, they all have something to contribute. They're all serious people, they all have their own skills to bring to, you know, whatever foundations that we are trying to forge right now, whether it's businesses,
00:34:02.340families, you know, everybody there, not just the content creators, has important, it has a very important, you know, part to play.
00:34:10.700Yeah, I really felt that I know what you're talking about, you felt, you know, people who I didn't know, I had never interacted with, I was meeting for the first time, just immediately fall into really fascinating conversations for half an hour, an hour, not even realize the time had passed.
00:34:24.640It's like, it's like, it's like what college is supposed to be in theory, I guess, you know, without all the pause. But yeah, but you know, you just run into all these people who are all very accomplished, very intelligent experts, and in so many areas, bringing up really interesting, I had so many people come up to me like, hey, I read this thing. Have you thought about this thinker? Have you gotten to this? Have you? Have you ever heard about the historical thing that connects to all of these things? And I, you know, just constantly, like, okay, I got to take notes, hold on, you know,
00:34:52.680to make sure, because so many people are bringing up new ideas and are just thoroughly interesting. There's, you're right, there's no way to have all the conversations you want to have. But I could definitely feel the, you know, how exciting it was that kind of each person you run into, you could just organically have a fascinating conversation with, it's just adding something. And again, not just along those content creation lines, but everyone just bringing, you know, their own specialty, their own experience, that just kind of plugs into the whole picture and makes things work.
00:35:18.940Yeah, absolutely. And, you know, it's always interesting to hear the different, you know, stories that people have as to how they arrived at the event and the positions that they now currently hold. There were some people that were at the event this year that had just come across like populist delusion last year. And then there were some people who were, you know, deep in this material for five, six, seven, some even like 10 years, you know, so there's a wide range of people who are on, you know, their, you know, quote, unquote, red pill journey, you know, as it were.
00:35:46.400But all around, fantastic event all across the board. The organizers did a fantastic job. Everyone was well taken care of. The rooms were fantastic. The venue was fantastic. The staff were great. You know, I, you know, full marks 10 out of 10 all across the board.
00:36:03.020Absolutely. All right. Well, I'm going to go ahead and start grabbing some, some remarks and some questions here, guys. Just feel free to jump in as we go. Like I said, this is real casual. This is just cozy friends stream. So we'll just go ahead and see what everybody was doing here.
00:36:18.820So, uh, Polly B says, uh, skilledings was amazing. It's worth making the sacrifice to attend, which I did. My only regret was that I didn't get to meet more people, didn't talk to Orrin personally, but I don't like to impose on myself. Oh, you should have, man. I had, I met so many people. It was so great. Uh, especially, like I said, these people who I've seen in chat for years at this point, you know, who are around when, uh, when the channel was only a couple hundred, uh, you know, uh, people, it was just really cool to, to finally put names with faces and then to get to talk to these people.
00:36:47.520They were so kind. Uh, and they, they have, like I said, they all have their own stories of how they got there, how they had plugged in, you know, uh, how they had talked to their, you know, their parents or their, their spouse or, you know, whatever about these ideas and how that had changed things. It was, it was very cool to just hear every one of those stories in person. Uh, I thought that was really amazing.
00:37:07.260Yeah. I mean, the, the countless number of conversations from people that had introduced themselves is like, Hey, I was this person that's been commenting on your, your threads or your videos since like you started.
00:37:17.520Uh, it's nice to meet you. Like, it's always a, like a, a great thing to finally see the people that are encouraging you to keep going or to suggest ideas or books and things like that.
00:37:28.020Uh, I had wrote down more literature recommendations than, uh, ever before, you know, like you go, you go read through like unqualified reservations or whatever.
00:37:35.880And like, you thought you have a book list then wait till there were like 40 or 50 guys telling you like, you need to read this book, that book, you know, have you read this essay? Have you read this treatise?
00:37:43.880And it's like, okay, I'm going to write this down, uh, and hopefully add it to my never ending and ever growing list of books to read.
00:37:52.240Yeah. No, I feel like I'll just get buried under that wave of books. Yeah.
00:37:55.400Indeed. And in addition to the discussion on books, um, you know, coming to these events, you get, uh, access to limited edition prints of Imperium Press books, as well as, uh, Mr. George Bagby setting up his own, uh, personal library bookstore at the event with hundreds of books.
00:38:10.760All of, you know, you know, some of them were literature, some of them were nonfiction, some of them were about the civil war, some about the Russian revolution.
00:38:17.500There was a plethora of books and I picked up a couple of myself. I don't know if you gentlemen, uh, there were some books I did buy out of like the mean, like I saw a human smoke and I was like, Oh, you know, Yarvin references that all the time.
00:38:30.840Like, uh, I might as well get a physical copy of it. Cause I hate you reading. And Mr. Bagby was selling physical copies of books. And that's what I am is, uh, buy physical media kids. That's what's, that's the important thing.
00:38:42.320Yeah. I, I picked up the abridged version of decline of the West, which was, I'm looking forward to, uh, digging into cause I've not read a Spangler yet.
00:38:49.360So yeah, no, well worth your time. All right, let's see here. We've got, uh, some of the star for, uh, $2. Uh, Hey guys, great to meet you both this weekend. Well, thank you very much, man. Yeah, no, it was fantastic to meet everybody.
00:39:02.360Uh, let's see here. We got, uh, Duke and Ashley for $5. Uh, had a pleasure seeing the two of you along with everyone else over the weekend. Yep. Absolutely. Great to see everybody. Just grab some of these here. Um, uh, we had Cody, uh, Bassett, who was there. Hello, gentlemen. It was wonderful having met you both. Thank you, sir.
00:39:26.300Let's see. Uh, here, you, but yeah, like to echo, uh, Red Hawk's point, like even people that were just like in the comment section that we see, or even in chat right now, like every single one of those people have like their own like skillset or ideas. And they're just like, I'm too busy to make content, but like, here's all the things that you should be looking at or considering it from this angle.
00:39:49.560And it does really illustrate like, at least in this corner of politics and the internet, that you really do have some of the smartest commenters and reply guys out there and you too can make it. The world's richest man right now is a reply guy on Twitter. So like, give us your feedback.
00:40:05.160Yeah. Um, uh, Polly B here says mechanics H fat guys. And I, and I don't know if he's joking there or not, but seriously, uh, I, I know there's a, there was a guy I met there who's a butcher and, uh, you know, they're, they're, uh, still bringing, like, like you said, all these different references, you know, they have their, their own careers. They're going their own ways. They're not in content creation or anything, but they're still exploring all of these ideas. They're still, uh, kind of, kind of just doing the work, uh, in the meantime.
00:40:31.160And they're bringing all these different, uh, encouraging ideas, all these different skill sets and you need all these people. Absolutely. Like I said, there's the, the very encouraging thing was kind of how it wasn't dominated by content creators and how great it was to have some very, uh, applicable, practical, uh, advice, uh, being brought by people, uh, again, lawyers, uh, you know, finance guys, uh, businessmen, just people who are established.
00:40:57.720They know what they're doing. They, they bring a, uh, an essential, uh, quality to everything. And they're giving you, you know, it's not all just Spangler and elite theory and everything. It's a lot of very much. Okay. How do you go home and make your area better? How do you get together with people? How do you move this ball forward? Uh, it's not all theory. It's things that you can take right into your community and make a difference.
00:41:23.820We've got, uh, Christian Smitherman here for $5. Very encouraging to meet and hear from y'all this weekend. And the food was pretty good. Yeah, no, it was very nice. They everything was, uh, you know, the event was very well handled, uh, you know, uh, big ups to the, uh, the Beowulf society and, uh, skilled things that the, uh, event was catered throughout and, uh, everybody was well taken care of. Uh, things were, uh, always on time. Uh, they managed to pack a ton of content and speak.
00:41:50.800Uh, and everything in there. Uh, so kudos to them, people, uh, putting that stuff together. It's often a thankless job, but, uh, they did a phenomenal job of making sure everything was good. Even the food.
00:42:22.980And the combination of being up until like three o'clock, four o'clock in the morning, because nobody wants to stop having conversations with people.
00:42:30.420We are all very sleep deprived and our voices are very dry.
00:42:54.020Hey, hey fellas, if you could pick up one political group to absorb, uh, dialectically, i.e. Marxists, libertarians, et cetera, what would you pick?
00:43:06.860A political group to absorb dialectically.
00:43:09.080Well, I, I, I'm going to echo a point made by one of the event organizers.
00:43:13.580I'm pretty sure we have already absorbed dialectically.
00:43:16.200The Marxists did make that point to everybody over and over again.
00:43:20.600If you're using the word superstructure and the base and things like that, you know, you're sort of already within that sphere of things, which I mean, uh, kind of makes sense because some of our favorite writers out there like Nick Land or whatever, like you kind of have to know that stuff in order to understand him.
00:43:34.600Uh, and he's kind of gone on a pretty far different direction on the right these days.
00:43:39.480So I feel like we've already, we've done one of these and we already have the libertarians.
00:43:43.900So, uh, I'm sure there's some far off group that we may not know about that it'll be next on our horizon.
00:43:50.640Look, I definitely did not deliver a class analysis based on the expand global expansion of capital.
00:43:56.460That did not happen at the event, but no, I think, yeah, I, interesting.
00:44:00.800I don't know, uh, one group in particular.
00:44:03.920It's funny because I feel like, um, the, you know, many of these groups have always been, uh, flirting with, uh, kind of, uh, disaffected Marxists, right?
00:44:12.560Like that's kind of the, the red scare type crowd, uh, or, uh, uh, what was the other podcast that kind of broke up?
00:44:56.200Uh, coming from a conservative Southern Democrat farming family.
00:44:59.060I have, uh, I've come to the conclusion that Reaganism is the disaster that gave us, uh, all this power to corporations and a cult similar to socialists.
00:45:10.060Uh, yeah, zombie Reaganism is obviously a disaster, uh, especially for the conservative movement.
00:45:15.400Still, uh, people still trying to, you know, you, you'll still see the national review or other people go like, well, but you know, Reagan wouldn't have agreed with this as, as if that has any bearing on what's going on.
00:45:25.520Uh, but I think the biggest thing is a lot of people, and, and of course, AA has talked about this and he's absolutely right that a lot of times, uh, you know, administrations like Reagan's are the opportunity to lock in, uh, the ratchet to, to, to kind of lock in those gains that have been made by the left, uh, from the other side.
00:45:43.440And, uh, we, of course, we've all talked about this a number of times how, you know, when, when the Democrats are in power, you get all the social aspects of liberalism.
00:45:51.980Uh, and when the Republicans are in power, you get all the kind of the business free market aspects of liberalism.
00:45:57.700Uh, but those are the only things that advance.
00:45:59.580And so obviously Reaganism, uh, very much along that free market side of things.
00:46:05.860Uh, Reagan's probably still better than many of the alternatives that could have been, uh, in charge in that situation.
00:46:11.560Uh, but, uh, the, the constant need to reference him, the constant reverence, uh, the inability to kind of look at what went wrong during those times.
00:46:20.100Uh, certainly a problem for the right, for sure.
00:46:22.680Yeah, we are not in the political paradigm of the 1980s.
00:46:26.040And I mean, thankfully hindsight is 2020.
00:46:29.080And I think that one of the key aspects of Reaganism that you can definitely look at was sort of the, uh, accelerationism of, uh, sort of the managerial state.
00:46:39.560I mean, you can cut taxes, you can cut regulation, you can do X, Y, and Z, but there's also a lot of laws passed, signed, sealed, delivered that has sort of entrenched our own, uh, political backdrop for like what we might call political correctness a few years ago or wokeness or whatever term that you may want to use for it.
00:46:56.900Because, I mean, uh, he's also the example of signing like the Martin Luther King Jr. holiday into law.
00:47:01.500And so that constant Republican, uh, you know, political pandering to groups that will never vote for them.
00:47:06.900You know, these are the sort of things that we see happen, uh, all the time.
00:47:10.440And so, yeah, like the, the Reaganism that we keep trying to resurrect from like the, the national review types is just, it's a part of the problem and we need to stop venerating it.
00:47:21.040Absolutely. Uh, let's see. Uh, I know I'm not going to pronounce correctly the, how, how do we say this one?
00:47:29.300Oh, oh man. L. Flemplar or Luthemplar.
00:47:32.940Okay. But, but yes, I know who it is. Uh, thank you very much, sir. I appreciate it. Uh, it was, it was good meeting you for sure.
00:47:39.540Uh, enjoyed the event a great deal and seeing folks are, uh, and seeing folks are not, are real and not AI cyber demons.
00:47:46.240Well, you know, we can, let's, let's not make our judgments yet. I could still be a computer algorithm.
00:47:50.280I've been accused of it before. Uh, what, what are your folks, uh, favorite speakers and themes?
00:47:56.220Yeah, I already talked a little bit about this. Like I said, I really enjoyed, of course, uh, I feel like both, uh, Dave and, uh, and, uh, uh, uh, uh, Prudentialist gave, uh, kind of, kind of very encouraging speeches.
00:48:08.980Uh, Stephen's speech also very encouraging. Um, I, I feel like, uh, Bagby's speech was a real sleeper hit.
00:48:16.280I didn't realize, uh, you know, I didn't, I didn't really know what to expect, but, uh, his was very excellent.
00:48:21.680Uh, again, the speech on kind of the, the Canon, uh, you know, looking at Nick Landon, the Canon, the Western Canon, also really good.
00:48:28.820Uh, a lot of them though. I, I, like I said, they're very, you know, very consistent theme of very high quality speakers.
00:48:34.540Yeah, I agree. Um, my personal favorite was probably, uh, not me, not yous about, uh, not falling into ideological purity, especially, you know, the discussion around the event of forming a common, uh, foundation.
00:48:46.340Uh, Charlemagne's is very good. Uh, Bagby's will probably be the first one I reread when the event book comes out.
00:48:53.020Um, cause that one was like you said, or on a very sleeper one for sure. Um, but yeah, all the, uh, event speakers did a fantastic job and every one of those speeches was top notch.
00:49:02.400Yeah. Yeah. I think, uh, Mr. Bagby's speech is probably, yeah, will be the one that I reread the, the, is the same way.
00:49:08.520It was probably the best one to have a man who spent, you know, most of his career teaching a classical education, give me a classical oration and the, the need to address things like honor.
00:49:20.720And what we're kind of up against is this like entropic homogenizing force that is ever expanding that will eat away at your history.
00:49:27.780And he wants to defend that. And it was just an excellent speech. Uh, I mean, all of them were very good. Um, but I, I think my favorite one though, is sort of just, it's not meant to be petty, but I liked how Oren's speech was introduced as like, I have a disagreement with someone and I have the slides to prove my point.
00:49:44.200Um, which was quite a delight to see like an old fashioned, like, here's why you're wrong. And I have the slides to proof it.
00:49:51.020I've, I've brought my, I've brought my slide deck. I'm ready for the, I have the receipts. Yeah, no, well about them. That's one of the reasons also I really liked Bagby's because like he said, uh, you know, in, in some ways Bagby and I were, were having a similar discussion.
00:50:04.380We were like, we were both talking about a similar topic. I was talking about it from kind of the mechanical, uh, power analysis, political theory side, but he really brought that dynamic, uh, you know, classicist, uh, you know, understanding.
00:50:19.060He, he, he grounded in something that was very meaningful and soulful, uh, and just, uh, brought, uh, a real life to it that I thought was really compelling.
00:50:27.960And you're right. That's, that's one that will be great. For those who don't know, there's a, there's a event book after, uh, that has a lot of, that has all of the speeches so that you can reread them.
00:50:38.360You can go over them and everything. And you're right. That one's going to profit the most from it because he, he had all the references.
00:50:43.080He was weaving it all together from all these classics and it was, it was really compelling.
00:50:47.580Uh, another $10. Thank you very much, sir. On a personal note, it was very touching last year to receive a call at 3am from all he chaps encouraging me while I was stuck in Belgium.
00:50:58.940And I hope I reflected that friendly demeanor this year. Yeah. Like I said, it was, it was, there was, again, I wasn't there last year the way that Red Hawk and Prudentialist were,
00:51:07.860but I felt that I could feel how many people had grown close together. You could feel the friendships that had developed, obviously, you know, a marriage, uh, you know, like there, you could just feel how much, uh, the community had been built by the last one.
00:51:22.420Even though I was, even though I was new, I could still just tell from the way people are interacting, how much it meant to them to see everyone again, to, to once again, see their friends in person and, uh, and, and get to share the, their, their lives with each other.
00:51:34.560The year in between, uh, you could, you could just have that energy the whole time.
00:51:38.280Yeah. I, and again, whether it be the camaraderie of, you know, drinks and cigars after the speeches or just, uh, feedback, you know, and, and writing notes and taking care of what everyone is wanting to accomplish in their lives, you know, like you, you, you will make friends that last a lifetime there.
00:51:55.820Yeah. I think the other thing to mention as well as the excellent, uh, Q and A's that would occur at the end of every single talk, you know, all the questions were very topical, very on point.
00:52:05.620Again, everyone having something to say and not just the content creators.
00:52:09.320So there is, uh, particularly after, um, Mr. Brooks's speech, the Q and A after that was probably the best one on the entire event.
00:52:16.560It was almost like each question from the audience was playing off of the, you know, previous question before.
00:52:22.300And it's almost like people are figuring out ideas literally in real time.
00:52:25.480Yeah, no, that's, that's a really good point.
00:52:27.320Yeah. You, you, during many of these Q and A's, you can see ideas forming.
00:52:31.560You could see each person realizing something and adding the next question, build, putting the next brick in the building, uh, kind of in real time.
00:52:38.840Uh, you were almost workshopping, uh, these ideas and expanding them on the fly as you were going.
00:52:45.000Uh, which again, is something, obviously it's great to have these chats to have, you know, your questions on these live streams and things, but there's always that extra magic of kind of doing it in real life.
00:52:54.880And then as soon as, you know, the great thing is as soon as you got out of the Q and A section session, uh, everyone just immediately broke off and started having another smaller, you know, tighter version of the Q and A on the same topic.
00:53:06.560You know, you, those discussions didn't end as soon as the talk was over.
00:53:10.560People were talking about those subjects and expanding them for hours afterwards and small groups and working on those things further.
00:53:16.960Indeed. And any disagreements are absolutely held in good faith as well, which is extremely refreshing, especially coming from right wing Twitter, where it seems like any, you know, uh, disagreement is just amplified at infinitum.
00:53:30.580So it's very nice to just be in person, put faces to names and everyone just understands.
00:53:36.260Yeah, we're all here. Uh, we're here and we're serious. And no, again, any disagreement is in wonderful, good faith, which is so refreshing.
00:53:44.800Absolutely. Yeah. Again, it's just, it's a lot easier to have productive, good faith conversations when you're across the table from somebody, um, rather than getting, you know, snarky, misunderstood messages back and forth on Twitter.
00:53:59.700It's just an entirely different environment.
00:54:02.960Uh, Merrick here for $5. Uh, I'm a humble Weaver organizer who attended the event and I met, uh, other Weaver organizers and had an extremely productive conversation.
00:54:12.260Yeah, no, man. I, like I said, those are, again, what I love about this event was how not creator focused it was.
00:54:19.560Yeah. A number of the speakers were, were content creators cause that's who, you know, that's kind of the, the forward facing part of, of the thing.
00:54:26.600But there are so many people who are essential, uh, parts of this again, you know, uh, you know, lawyers and, and businessmen, people who are handing the social aspect, you know, that again, so many people are isolated.
00:54:38.800So many people have a hard time finding a good friend group, finding like, like-minded people, uh, having the ability to build community.
00:54:45.660And so those Weaver organizers are essential links in the chain, you know, without those, you're, you're never going to get events like this because those, uh, Weaver organizers are putting together those communities that then develop into, you know, these conferences that create those opportunities, hopefully end up turning into, you know, old glory club chapters and those kinds of things.
00:55:05.320Uh, and, and I'm, I'm so glad that, you know, even for people who have these different roles, they're getting together with other people who are doing the same thing and they're learning lessons, they're building skill sets.
00:55:15.440Uh, so it's, again, it's not just content creators talking about ideas somewhere in a corner, all these different people who are doing essential parts and essential, uh, skill building, essential, uh, community building are also able to network, you know, get, get the best ideas, uh, learn from each other, build with each other.
00:55:34.640Like I get the point that like everything is political, but I mean, there's a lot that can be said about having a cadre of people that aren't doing necessarily explicitly political things, but you know, like they, they meet and they work on trades or they work together on teaching like their kids, automotive mechanics or things like that.
00:55:51.900Like you want to be the type of people that can pass down skills that are going to be, uh, you know, slashed by education budgets when it comes to things like prioritizing diversity.
00:56:02.840I mean, this is the things that we've seen throughout the history of like the U S education system with universities.
00:56:07.240Like when they want to focus on say like diversity, like what cut, like, well, the classics get cut, uh, automotive stuff gets cut, languages get cut.
00:56:15.640So like, if you have these skillsets, it is important when we say basket weaving to meet up IRL, to meet up in the real world and to, uh, organize things to say like, well, we're, we're going to do this.
00:56:26.380We're going to work on cars or we're going to work on, you know, uh, a hiking trip or, or getting like losing weight, you know, things that are going to be generally, genuinely necessary when, you know, things are looking worse politically that you have people that you can rely on and that you can set an example in your own neighborhood as well.
00:56:44.640Looks like we have Charlemagne. He came in. I didn't, I didn't know if he was going to make it, but great to have you, sir.
00:56:50.800Yes. Well, I'm still, uh, in Tennessee, so I figured I might as well join.
00:56:57.840Yep. Yeah. One of those things where the gate just, you know, stops bothering to show your flight information because it's, it's gone that wrong.
00:57:05.080Yeah. There, there's quite a mess with the, again, I know, uh, a number of people who had a full day delay coming or going with the flights and everything.
00:57:13.200So, uh, sorry, sorry, you're stuck there, but of course, uh, happy to have you, uh, for sure.
00:57:18.020Or, uh, did you feel like there was a particular speech or a particular aspect of the conference that you thought was a big growth or that really hit you this year?
00:57:27.720Well, definitely Mr. Bagby's speech hit the hardest.
00:57:31.120Uh, I really liked how he narrated a very specific example of the sort of Maoist indoctrination that's deeply seated in everyone, uh, at work.
00:57:45.500And it's, it was very illustrative, I think, even more than, uh, Ryan Turnip Seed's, uh, case with the Lutheran church, just how deeply ingrained, uh, the, um, the, the Maoist political correctnesses in people.
00:58:01.180Uh, like, like at a school, you know, there, there was no one really, uh, persecuting it.
00:58:07.360It was sort of entirely self-inflicted wounds, uh, which I think makes his case very interesting because there was really zero political pressure there.
00:58:15.480They could have just ignored that Rod Dreher article that chose not to.
00:58:19.660Yeah. I think everybody really felt, uh, that that was a very powerful speech and, and brought in, like you said, uh, very different, you know, it came from that, that had that classical background weaved in.
00:58:32.120It also, uh, highlighted very specific and interesting, uh, cases and problems like you're talking about there.
00:58:38.340So I think for a lot of people, uh, that, that Bagby speech was a real standout.
00:58:42.660Yeah. I think the other thing about this as well is that, um, uh, the speakers for the speeches were not, you know, coordinating beforehand what they were going to talk about yet.
00:58:52.760Many of the speeches just naturally flowed together very, very well, which tells you there's a lot of convergent, you know, information going on here.
00:59:00.460So a lot of people coming from very diverse backgrounds are all still united under what we were talking about, forging a common foundation and Charlemagne, uh, your speech had some crossovers with Bagby's who also had some crossovers with Mr. Brooks, you know?
00:59:14.140So it was very interesting how people are all coming to the same conclusions from many different angles.
00:59:21.820Absolutely. Let's see here. We've got, uh, Zang Wei for $5.
00:59:25.900I can afford a ticket for next year now that I'm selling AI-generated nudes of Harry Sisson and Peter Thiel.
00:59:39.940Uh, but I assure you no one is, is pocketing things, uh, there.
00:59:44.000It's a, it's a very nice conference in a, in a, in a good venue.
00:59:47.880Uh, you know, they, uh, you, every, everything that's being spent there is being put back into the event.
00:59:53.260Uh, it's certainly a commitment for sure.
00:59:55.240I understand that not everyone can do it, uh, but, uh, for those that can, I think they really felt it was, uh, well worth their time.
01:00:01.960Yeah, that way it was an investment in and of itself.
01:00:05.220And this isn't something where the event organizers are like sitting in their Scrooge McDuck vault full of cash, you know, grifting off these like content creators and people that want to hear the speeches.
01:00:14.520Uh, and they pretty much more or less broke even.
01:00:16.480And so, and I mean, that's kind of how the way these things go and the venue was wonderful.
01:00:41.320And also, and I'm sure you guys witnessed this, uh, everyone passed the physiognomy test with from flying colors, which is very, very nice.
01:01:07.820Uh, and it kind of touches on, uh, on what Charlemagne was just saying, uh, kind of with, uh, how interesting it is, how his, uh, how his story played out.
01:01:17.420So I think the big difference here that you're looking at is when I was giving my speech, I was talking about people who are completely on board and bought in.
01:01:26.960They are the, the, the, the true managerial elite, those who are, uh, you know, who, who are originating or actively enforcing with great gusto, uh, these things at a corporate level or at a government level.
01:01:39.720Uh, Bagby was talking about how even a classical Christian school is infected by this.
01:01:45.980So they ostensibly, you know, guys like Rob Dreher oppose this stuff, right?
01:01:54.000These, you have, so, you know, it's now a cottage industry on the right, you know, I'm against the wokeness, but it turns out they're not really against the wokeness.
01:02:01.060In fact, they have onboarded many of their, uh, uh, their kind of social, uh, standards, uh, and, and kind of many of their ideological points, but without really understanding them.
01:02:12.800And so they kind of reflexively felt the need to cancel somebody like Mr. Bagby who had done nothing wrong and, uh, was an excellent, uh, was an excellent, uh, you know, employee.
01:02:23.200But they still felt compelled to make these actions just because that's the zeitgeist, right?
01:02:29.160Like, uh, once an accusation has been made, once somebody has been sullied, it really doesn't matter if you understand the ramifications of what you're talking about or what you mean.
01:02:37.820You still just need to apply it because it kind of, that's what, that's what you do.
01:02:42.240That's how you prove you're one of the good ones.
01:02:44.060And so, uh, I don't think that most of the people who probably were involved in that classical Christian school were true believers in the woke.
01:02:52.200That wasn't who I was talking about when I was talking about true believers.
01:02:55.420I was talking about the kind of the direct enforcers, uh, the, the, those who were completely bought into the managerial, uh, ideology in things like corporations, universities, uh, as opposed to Bagby, who was talking more about these people who are kind of peripherally connected to it and felt the social pressure of it, even though they're in an organization that theoretically is actively organized to stop this kind of mouse infiltration.
01:03:35.660I, I had my plane, uh, was, uh, was broken.
01:03:38.740Uh, they, they had the, uh, some door was broken and they had to go get us a new plane because they, they didn't have anybody to fix it.
01:03:45.380So yes, the complex systems are falling apart right before us.
01:03:48.760So all of us had a hard time returning from the conference because violinism was in full swing.
01:03:53.940So I was thinking about what you, uh, asked when I first came on and one of the interesting things about the conference this year, year, as opposed to last year is last year.
01:04:04.460The speeches really set the tone for what everyone went away thinking about and pondered for the next year.
01:04:11.240But I feel like at this event, while we had very interesting speeches, I feel like everyone really understood what we were doing, the projects everyone was working on, how we were organizing.
01:04:21.840And even if there were no speeches at all, I feel like we would have all come away very much on the same page about what our aims are.
01:04:29.140And I thought that was really interesting.
01:04:48.780Uh, I've let the fear keep me from events like this and basket weaving, but to be there and to find no horde of protesters, only friends discussing, uh, ideas, life, and how to move forward was liberating.
01:05:11.600And, uh, we're not trying to sell tickets here or anything, guys.
01:05:14.520I'm not, you know, I'm not telling anybody they need to do this, but that barrier of entry meant that the people there were serious.
01:05:20.520Uh, and that everyone there was, uh, on the same page, uh, this isn't the kind of event that attracts bad attention because everyone there knows what they're doing and they're there with a purpose.
01:05:34.320Uh, and so I think it can help to kind of eschew some of that fear of, oh, there's going to be bad actors in here because no one can just casually walk in and start, uh, you know, agitating, causing problems.
01:05:46.440And if they did, everyone would immediately ostracize them because kind of everybody there is on the same page.
01:06:02.720And then I don't know if you guys, uh, mentioned this before I came on, but the crowd at this year's event was slightly older, uh, than last year's.
01:06:10.040Um, you know, we did have, you know, people from, there were Gen Xers, there were boomers, millennials, uh, zoomers, of course, I'd say the average age is somewhere around like, you know, maybe like 28 to 32 is probably where the average age of that event was this year.
01:06:24.280It was probably a little bit earlier, uh, last year, but yeah, uh, it's very interesting to see how, you know, everyone is coming to the same conclusions here.
01:06:36.180We, we talked about the age thing earlier, but I mean, it really was this great convergence of like, didn't matter what part of the country you were from.
01:06:43.240And then some even traveled from outside of the, uh, us from Australia.
01:06:47.300Uh, everyone was here with the deep fascination to know, like, all right, we kind of all get the vibe of how bad things are.
01:07:20.840Uh, whether, whether, whether we think that that was a kind of a fake thing or not, uh, I'm never putting out someone's information like that.
01:07:27.760That's, that's just not how we do things here.
01:07:30.080Uh, so I, I understand kind of your point there, but, uh, we're, we're, we're just not going to be public, publicizing that either way.
01:07:37.080Cause, uh, that's, that's just not how we, we handle ourselves.
01:07:59.120I think we got through all the, uh, through all the super chats there and we are over the hour.
01:08:05.500I don't want to go too late cause I know everybody's recovering from, uh, uh, from their, their, their plane flights or their drives or some, some are still stranded in the airport.
01:08:14.220So, uh, uh, so I don't want to keep everybody too long, but, uh, is there anything that we didn't touch on that anyone wanted to, uh, talk about any kind of, uh, points that didn't get to want to get to that.
01:08:24.400If they wanted to wrap up before we kind of, uh, in the stream.
01:08:27.540I think the thing that I want to, uh, address is the, the panel show from the, uh, the old glory club.
01:08:32.960Um, you know, we did a fantastic showing at the event here and announcing our ideas to start up, uh, many chapters, uh, throughout the entire country.
01:08:41.100So definitely, uh, watch this space, uh, check out the old glory club.
01:08:44.620And if you're interested in starting up a, uh, you know, fraternal chapter in a city near you, uh, definitely look into us.
01:08:53.440I think a lot of people were very excited about the, kind of the, the old glory club and its birth and kind of what it's going to be doing.
01:09:00.460Uh, I think that was a big, a big point for everybody.
01:09:40.820Even, we don't really think about where that rule came from.
01:09:43.680We don't think about whether that rule came from our enemies.
01:09:46.200Uh, we don't think about whether that rule was, uh, aimed at us.
01:09:48.740We're the rule enforcers and followers.
01:09:51.140So that is our job, no matter what the rule is.
01:09:53.760And so they'll just unthinkingly embrace frames of their enemies, rules of their enemies, punishing what should be friends.
01:10:00.640Uh, and then, uh, there are those that are, there are the particularly nasty ones.
01:10:04.920Like you said, the, the ones who are, who are really running the inquisition, who are really running the, uh, you know, uh, those HR departments and things, and, uh, really, truly do want to destroy people and root them out.
01:10:16.140Uh, they're motivated by the, the, the nastiness and the power and the kind of the sociopathy.
01:10:22.000And so you're, you're right to make that distinction.
01:10:27.100Did you have anything there, Cheryl, let me, before we go.
01:10:29.620Yes, there was a lot of camaraderie this year.
01:10:31.960Uh, the first event, uh, people tended to, uh, flock to the, the e-celebs, but this year people tended to have much more camaraderie right off the get-go and forming their own groups and hanging out with each other rather than just sort of, uh, you know, forming these, these orbits.
01:10:48.360And I think this demonstrates the success of the event and the success of the event in tandem with basket weaving, because that's where some of the camaraderie comes from, comes from.
01:10:59.340So, uh, it's clear that these things are working and that's why you should come to them, both the basket weaves and the event, because it is doing what it's supposed to do.
01:11:09.980And we've only just started really doing this.
01:11:15.040Like you said, that it's not just everybody clustered around the content creators that there was, uh, I often just kind of walked up to conversations and listened, you know, just, just to kind of hear what was going on, to hear where people were going.
01:11:27.060I was learning a lot, you know, from people who aren't in the content creation sphere, who maybe I hadn't met before, uh, but we're, we're really, uh, talking and, uh, having interesting conversations, building interesting things.
01:11:37.800And so, uh, that, that was an aspect, like I said, I, uh, Charlamagne, I agree with you.
01:11:43.040It's how, how much those relationships had already been built, how many people who were outside of any kind of, uh, you know, content creation or forward facing stuff had, were already bonding together and getting those things done.
01:11:53.620And the fact that you're going to have those basket weaving events, you're going to have those old glory clubs to kind of continue that growth, I think is really essential.
01:12:12.260And I, like I said, I, uh, am encouraged about how many people on how many fronts were just, uh, you know, taking the ball and running with it.
01:12:19.800Uh, looking for new avenues to help out each other, to, to make things, uh, better for each other, uh, make sure people are able to find work, to find community, uh, to, to, to, uh, you know, just, like I said, just all these things that weren't related to the stupid internet drama or arguing over one little piece of policy or whatever.
01:12:41.400But instead were about really, uh, coming together, you know, building a brotherhood, uh, building fraternal organizations, uh, that, that just, that warmed my heart.
01:12:51.840And because so many of these guys were in that, like you said, that kind of 28 to 32, uh, two or 33, uh, band, it was people who are just in a phase of their life where they obviously really needed that.
01:13:03.740And those things become incredibly important and they're in a position to, to take other people under, under their wing and kind of benefit them.
01:13:10.800And, uh, just, just really good to see people very excited about their opportunity to give back and make a difference.
01:13:43.400It seems to have hit so many, uh, you know, the, the, the weather was not great there.
01:13:48.080It seems like, uh, airlines are not able to keep their planes in good repair.
01:13:52.460Uh, a lot of people getting hit by that.
01:13:54.420So sorry, you are also stuck in an airport, but, uh, it was great meeting you, uh, you did, you had a great speech as well.
01:14:00.860And, uh, really fantastic to kind of put, put names with faces and every, uh, everything that was really good.
01:14:07.620All right, guys, I think we made it through all the super chats.
01:14:10.360Uh, I don't want to keep everybody here.
01:14:12.060We're running a little long, so we're going to go ahead and wrap this up.
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01:14:36.780Uh, again, guys really enjoyed this event.
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