In this episode, Oren McIntyre talks about the role that conservatives have played in perpetuating a culture of big government, and how it s had a devastating effect on family formation and the ability of people to have children, own homes, and create community.
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00:05:46.080I think one of the core shifts that has made the growth of government possible is the shift from family, the focus on the family, to take a James Dobson reference, and shifting that to the individual.
00:05:59.380You see, there's a political theorist called Bertrand de Juvenal.
00:06:04.560And in his book On Power, Bertrand de Juvenal talks a lot about the spheres of social influence, the spheres of social power.
00:06:13.000And he says what really keeps government from growing, what really keeps the government's power from expanding, the state's power from expanding, it's not a constitution.
00:06:27.780Those are nice, but they don't actually restrict government's growth.
00:06:31.720The thing that keeps government smaller is that other social spheres demand people's allegiance.
00:06:38.220You see, whether we like it or not, we are not isolated individuals.
00:06:43.520We are dependent on others, and others are naturally dependent on us.
00:06:48.800Forgive me, but we live in a society, more or less.
00:06:52.280And because we live in a society, if we have these different spheres like family and church and community organizations that require us to pay dues and spend time and focus on them, give our money and our efforts, our loyalty, then government can only demand so much of us.
00:07:12.580And that's critical because the more government is allowed to demand from us, the more it can grow.
00:07:18.880And so the more the government can have us be less dependent on those organizations and more dependent on the government, the more power it can capture.
00:07:28.440Now, originally, most societies understood that family was the core and not just the nuclear family, not just the one that we think of to two parents and two kids, but the extended family, really the entire clan, the entire tribe was the basic unit of civilization.
00:07:50.340You needed to have that level of civilization, you needed to have that level of support because really government just hadn't gotten that big.
00:07:59.800There wasn't the ability to take over all the things that families did.
00:08:05.280And so that meant that they had to allow and they had to rely on the cohesiveness of a family as kind of the basic unit.
00:08:13.440The smallest you could really get would be that nuclear family.
00:08:17.620That was as small as the as the allowable unit in a civilization could become because you were so dependent on each other that you at the very least had to have kind of that that mother and father, that child and parent relationship to bond each other together, to provide for each other and do all the things that society needed that government couldn't hope to provide.
00:08:41.580But we have shifted to the individual and one of the things that sold this to people, of course, is that family and community are expensive and time consuming.
00:08:54.560If you have to take care of your children, you lose all your free time to do, I don't know, play a lot of World or Warcraft or, you know, spend a lot of time watching things while drinking wine with your cat.
00:09:07.600You have a lot of responsibilities that limit your free time.
00:09:12.140And if you have to take care of your parents, you have to take care of your brothers and sisters.
00:09:16.100You have to care about your nieces and nephews.
00:09:18.240If they get in trouble, if they need help, that's an expanded sphere of responsibility.
00:09:23.320And if you have to go to your church and take care of your neighbor through the community there and all these other organizations, those are large demands on your time.
00:09:33.960Alexis de Tocqueville in Democracy in America talked about how the key to America's prosperity was really the voluntary associations it entered into.
00:09:44.440The amount of free time that people spent, well, not having free time, binding their time up into these communities, sacrificing for each other and entering into them.
00:09:55.260And because they had this level of virtue and this social, this civic vigor, they didn't need a bunch of government taking care of these things because they had already assembled the necessary social fabric to control and care for people who slipped through the cracks and had these problems.
00:10:15.400But we have dissolved a lot of effort, but we have dissolved a lot of effort and we didn't want to do that.
00:10:21.100And the juvenile points us out in On Power.
00:10:23.320He says, look, one of the reasons that government has grown to an unprecedented size, but steep people still think that they're freer than anyone has ever been in modern America is because they don't have all of those other social responsibilities.
00:10:39.740And this wasn't just because it removed, we didn't just encourage this because it removed those social responsibilities.
00:10:49.520When the individual doesn't have all these bonds, when the individual is no longer required to care for a large number of people, no longer involved in the community, no longer expected to take on certain family and community responsibilities, they are suddenly freed up in a very big way for capitalist demands.
00:11:13.440If you have a business, if you have a company that wants to move people from one place to another and they have deep roots in that community, well, they're probably not going to go.
00:11:26.200They're not going to move with capital to this new area.
00:11:29.620They're not going to move with that business to that new area.
00:11:33.700And so that means that they are locked into their community.
00:11:37.180They're not willing to break up the thing that they have there just because you decided to move the factory somewhere else.
00:11:43.780You decided to move the jobs somewhere else.
00:11:47.060And conservatives do this all the time.
00:11:49.100They say, oh, well, no, of course you should move away from your family.
00:11:51.740You should move away from your town, the place where you live, and chase opportunities somewhere else.
00:12:01.700You have to be willing to move geographically to go ahead and follow the jobs, the opportunities, wherever they go.
00:12:08.640When they say wherever the opportunities, wherever they go, they mean capital is moving somewhere else.
00:12:13.640And maybe capital decides to shut down the factory in your hometown and desolate everybody there, make sure that they lose their jobs, lose the ability to maintain what made that town functional.
00:12:23.940And you just have to be willing to do that because, really, you're an individual, and you're not responsible to a family or a community.
00:12:31.800You're an individual who should be mobile all the time and willing to chase these opportunities, right?
00:12:37.920And so we hear about this where conservatives will say, oh, why do we have big government?
00:12:43.880Why do we have the government taking care of all these things that families used to take care of?
00:12:48.420But in the next breath, they say, but of course, a company should be able to move all its jobs across the country if it feels like it at a moment's notice, or should be able to move those jobs over to some foreign country at a moment's notice.
00:13:08.480But the unbridled form of capitalism, the idea that capitalism is some suicide pact that we have to sign on to, no matter what it does to our communities, is insane.
00:13:20.380Capitalism is a tool for the betterment of our communities.
00:13:25.240If it does good things, if it's the best economic system for the people it is serving, then you should follow it.
00:13:32.200But if it ends up having problems, if it ends up devastating communities, then you need to think about what's going on.
00:13:39.140You need to think about what is happening.
00:13:41.040And so a lot of what has happened is that conservatives, Republicans have decided to go ahead and tear down communities because it works with their kind of economic plan.
00:13:51.800It works with their economic ideology.
00:13:53.360At the end of the day, we're individualists.
00:13:58.500Of course, it was always important to have heroic individuals, great men.
00:14:02.700There were always people who were on their own or kind of had this drive to go beyond the community.
00:14:09.380And you don't want to restrict people to the point where you're stopping that.
00:14:13.180But you also can't pretend that every single person is like this.
00:14:16.780And this is the real problem, is assuming that every single person is an entrepreneur, that every single person is a captain of industry or a great man in some way.
00:14:27.380This is kind of the libertarian fallacy, right?
00:14:29.500If we just remove all of these bonds, all these requirements, then everyone will achieve this stuff.
00:14:37.720Most people need to be bound up in those communities.
00:14:40.700Most people are dependent in significant ways on communities.
00:14:44.500And you need some way for the average person to be able to make a living, have a family, have meaning in their life, have support.
00:14:53.040And if they don't get it from their families, if they don't get it from the community, eventually they will get it from the government.
00:15:00.640And that's a big problem, is that we have moved many of the responsibilities of the family out of the social sphere of the family or community and into the marketplace.
00:15:13.100The terminology that I often like to use for this, borrowing it from Nick Land, is de-territorialization and re-territorialization.
00:15:21.740Throughout history, there are certain duties, in fact, most duties, were bound up in sacred communal understandings.
00:15:31.340Okay, you have a personal bond to your family.
00:15:34.340You have a personal bond to your parents, to your siblings, to your church, to your tribe, everything.
00:15:42.320And that means that you are reliant on them and they are reliant on you.
00:15:46.860And that had nothing to do with monetary exchange and everything to do with your moral and spiritual duty to those people.
00:15:55.860However, what we've done is we've taken so many of those responsibilities, things that used to be explicitly part of the family structure specifically.
00:16:06.640And we have taken them out of their territory, out of their original territorialization.
00:16:12.280We have de-territorialized them out of that family structure, out of that soil where they originally grew up in.
00:16:19.900And we have taken them out of that and we have moved them into the marketplace.
00:16:24.300Now, the marketplace is a powerful and wonderful thing, and it can do really important stuff, and we need it in many ways.
00:16:32.180But it is not a universal solution, and that's unfortunately what we have treated the marketplace as, as something that can solve any problem.
00:16:39.680You hear this, again, all the time from the right, all the time from conservatives.
00:16:43.020The invisible hand, the powers of the marketplace, we even have moved it into our decision-making apparatus.
00:16:48.300It's the marketplace of ideas, but what you might have noticed is that the marketplace of ideas is not working very well right now.
00:16:54.360And that's because those decisions were not actually ever supposed to be subjected.
00:16:58.920Many of those decisions were never supposed to be subjected to the marketplace.
00:17:03.280Sorry, but what a male or female is should never have been put into the marketplace of ideas.
00:17:08.680It should have been a settled truth, period.
00:17:10.620And there's too many axioms, too many fundamental bedrock values that we have taken out of their place and put into the marketplace and put them up for discussion, debate, competition.
00:17:25.040And this is also true, as much as it is for the definition of things like man and woman, for our family duties.
00:17:31.720Many of the things that originally were located in the family were there for a reason, because they were duties that were too critical to be placed in the marketplace.
00:17:43.080The marketplace can increase large amounts of efficiency.
00:18:16.880We have de-territorialized these critical roles, these critical social values, these critical traditions, these critical understandings out of their context in the family.
00:18:27.600And we have moved them into the market.
00:18:29.540And again, many conservatives have been big fans of this.
00:18:36.320They've said, oh, well, yeah, no, we need to go ahead and do this.
00:18:38.840We have to focus on the individual and individual freedom.
00:18:41.400And that's what's most important without recognizing that in the same what they're doing is setting things up for big government.
00:18:49.620Because once you break these things out of the sacred bonds of the community and the family and you move them into the marketplace, inevitably, big government will consume them.
00:19:04.620Okay, I'm going on about all these things we've moved into the marketplace.
00:19:08.240But what am I talking about specifically?
00:19:10.580Well, let's just look at traditional male and female bonds inside a marriage, right?
00:19:16.640So men obviously had several classic duties inside of a family.
00:19:24.260Just a few of them, of course, were protection.
00:19:27.200The male was the bigger and stronger member of the family.
00:19:31.620So it was their responsibility, first and foremost, to secure the safety of the family.
00:19:37.400Provision, material provision, was a big part of the male role in most societies.
00:19:44.160Of course, you need to go ahead and do things like, you know, just basic maintenance on a lot of things, building things, repairing things.
00:19:53.940And again, these are not always just done by the man.
00:19:57.020And we'll see that some of those things aren't, you know, the things that are traditionally female aren't always just done by the woman as well.
00:21:03.820And the, you know, the teenagers get into trouble.
00:21:08.560You know, there's a disagreement or something.
00:21:11.120And the sheriff doesn't immediately have to put that kid in juvie forever.
00:21:15.680They don't immediately have to get social services involved.
00:21:19.260Because there was a certain amount of conflict, a certain amount of danger that was mediated by the father.
00:21:26.540He was expected to protect the people around him.
00:21:29.840He was expected to protect his family.
00:21:32.040There was a, there were moments when the sheriff needed to step in.
00:21:35.800There were moments when an agent of the state did need to step in.
00:21:39.780But there was a lot of intermediate conflict resolution and things that could have been unsafe but were made safe by that kind of that mediating social fabric of the father, right?
00:21:53.660And that meant that the state didn't have to crack down.
00:21:56.220It didn't have to worry about safety of everyone at every moment.
00:21:59.160And that also meant that the state didn't have authority to do that at every moment.
00:22:03.800Many of these decisions were to be made by the father, were to be made by the family, were to be made by the extended family.
00:22:25.580You, of course, you know, obviously we know that the welfare state has made single motherhood a reality in many ways because they remove the need for a man to provide.
00:22:37.840And, of course, there's also a lot of issues with corporations and the expansion of labor there as well.
00:22:45.040However, that government backstop was a big problem.
00:22:49.060But that's also because we moved so much of the role of providing out of the hands of a working father.
00:22:56.980That's why corporations felt like they could start paying people less.
00:23:01.440It used to be that you had to pay a person not just a living wage for themselves but for their families.
00:24:52.980But what I am saying is that it used to be something that you could depict reasonably on television and people would believe that.
00:25:01.300But we have gotten rid of that role because it was assumed, well, you can just pay people as an individual.
00:25:07.100You don't have to assume they have a family.
00:25:08.780You don't have to assume that they're taking care of a wife.
00:25:10.900You don't have to you don't have a moral duty to make sure that the person who's working for you can go ahead and raise their kids and make take care of their spouse on one salary.
00:25:21.400And that's many of much of that is because we broke that that that responsibility out of the family as a unit and went ahead and started treating people as individuals inside of a marketplace.
00:25:34.720Of course, the same goes for traditionally female roles when it comes to child care, education, you know, food preparation, all kinds of things that used to be filling the day of the average female in a family now is broken out into, you know, restaurants and into, you know, schools and everything else.
00:26:02.040There were always outside educational opportunities.
00:26:07.180There were schools that people sent their children to.
00:26:11.220However, it was not what the average person did, right?
00:26:14.420It was not the mass experience of moving that education or child care out of the home and into a bunch of daycares that are half sponsored by government or completely owned by the government.
00:26:25.920But by moving those duties out of the home, by breaking them out of the family and transplanting them into the marketplace, we went ahead and created the expectation that the individual would should be able to provide this.
00:26:39.020And if they shouldn't, who couldn't provide it, they should be able to purchase it in the marketplace.
00:26:43.260And that's a big deal because once you've broken those critical duties out of the family structure, a couple things happen.
00:26:52.060First, the market tries to go ahead and depersonalize these things and streamline them so it can create profitability and create efficiency.
00:27:06.560And the way that it does that is by homogenizing, standardizing this kind of stuff.
00:27:12.220The problem is that individuals don't work this way.
00:27:17.020And kids need, obviously, their parents for just the basic spiritual ties that it makes.
00:27:23.540The familiar ties are critical, and they're something that a daycare worker or a school teacher or a cafeteria worker cannot provide to your children.
00:27:39.560Mass education is a failure, and we can see that by the fact that no matter how much money we pour per pupil into our public education system, it only gets worse and worse.
00:27:50.680And so children need very specific education.
00:27:54.340They need very specific attention along with the love and guidance and care that a parent can provide.
00:28:02.640And by putting that in the marketplace, by taking that out of the hands of the individual parent and putting into the hands of this mass system, you end up in a scenario where the average kid just becomes the lowest common denominator.
00:28:16.940They homogenize the education down to the lowest possible level so they can provide it to everyone.
00:28:23.720And they don't provide the individual education, the nuances that a parent who cares about their child would do.
00:28:32.100And so the quality of education goes down, the quality of food served the kids goes down, and the quality of just everything about what happens to that child goes down.
00:28:43.600Because all of those things that were part of a sacred obligation, sacred bond, a personal relationship and care are stripped out, right?
00:28:56.240Home maintenance, the ownership of property, all of that gets taken out of the craftsmanship of the husband or the father, and it gets put into these mass-produced products or sold out to other services.
00:29:11.520And what happens when we need to fill that labor and we need to make it cheaper and cheaper?
00:29:15.440Well, we start moving people into the country so that we can have, you know, we start getting a bunch of illegal immigrants doing lawn maintenance because, you know, the time of the father is too valuable if he's even in a family, if he even has a family anymore.
00:29:30.380And so what happens is each one of these duties is broken out of the family, and it's sold off piece by piece to different services.
00:29:39.100And in some ways, they are more efficient than a family.
00:29:42.460In some ways, they are cheaper than a family.
00:29:44.520In some ways, they can do these things better and more efficiently to some degree than each individual family doing it themselves.
00:29:54.080But the problem is that personal touch, that inefficiency that comes from knowing the needs of your family, from caring about the needs of your child, from looking across the street and seeing a family that's hurting and giving them aid, the things that you lose when you don't see each and every person who's involved in your daily life in a church together, in a community that binds you together.
00:30:21.160Those things matter, those things matter, and they're intangible.
00:30:44.060They don't understand why that happened.
00:30:46.060And it's because you can't put the things that make a high-trust society on your spreadsheet.
00:30:50.640You can't go ahead and show up with a quarterly earnings report that demonstrates the high-trust in your society.
00:31:00.560When you don't see people, when you don't know their names, when you don't bind yourself together with duty and responsibility, the trust in your society goes down.
00:31:10.420Now, we had a very high-trust society.
00:31:12.640And so for a while, we were able to scale up and go ahead and abstract so many of these duties into the marketplace and assume that that trust will just keep going.
00:31:25.940We would just keep perpetuating it forever.
00:31:27.760Of course, I can hand these transactions off to the marketplace because everybody knows this is how you behave.
00:31:32.760Everybody will, of course, use the self-checkout in the right way.
00:31:49.920The ability to have that high level of social coordination came from community.
00:31:54.520It came from a shared history, a shared tradition, a shared culture, a shared identity, a shared understanding that was bound together by that constant interaction with each other, by having the duties and responsibilities that we have to each other that are prescribed by our unified history, traditions, and moral vision, religion.
00:32:27.320When we move those duties into the marketplace, eventually we recognize the failures.
00:32:33.780Once we are no longer a community that is responsible to each other, once we no longer bear those burdens and failures as a community, individuals start to fail.
00:32:46.980Now, when individuals fail in a community, we recognize, oh, that's Cindy.
00:32:55.620Are we really going to leave Tom's kid out on the street?
00:32:58.180Are we really going to ignore what Cindy is doing over there?
00:33:01.560Are we really going to leave her without a job or a way to feed her children?
00:33:07.180Are we really not going to care about these people?
00:33:09.520We have to see their family every day.
00:33:13.240And in those cases, you change the way that you address people because of this, right?
00:33:18.420You go ahead and change the way that you act towards people.
00:33:21.860But if the marketplace, if the individual is supposed to handle everything as a responsible individual in a marketplace, you say, oh, well, they can just, you know, they should have had insurance.
00:33:32.320Oh, well, they should have gone out and bought.
00:33:34.900They should have paid somebody to do that for them.
00:33:58.060We didn't need everything to be hyper-efficient.
00:34:00.720We understood that sometimes you have to slow down and look at the actual person across from you and understand that they are part of a network, a family, a community, and not just an individual who's failing alone.
00:34:14.540And what happens is as those duties are moved into the marketplace and those failures start occurring, once we realize that in the marketplace, people will lose and they will end up with nothing because there's not that community to stand behind them.
00:34:28.480There's not that safety net of family.
00:34:31.200There's not that safety net of organizations, churches, things like that, that will pick you up when you fall down.
00:34:38.700Once we realize that it's gone, we start to hand those responsibilities over to the government because the truth is, and again, a lot of libertarians won't like this because the libertarian vision so often seems to be just let people drown.
00:34:53.620But collectively, people cannot all be hyper-responsible individuals, and because they can't all be hyper-responsible individuals, a lot of people are going to fail.
00:35:03.880And you're not just going to stand around and watch people fail.
00:37:08.920And so if the responsibilities and duties are stripped out of the family and sold in the marketplace, eventually the marketplace will fail.
00:37:18.580And the things that were once part of the family will become part of the government.
00:37:25.300This is why government is always expanding.
00:37:28.740Because it is taking on the duties that once sat inside the community.
00:37:33.760And it's not enough to just tell people, be more virtuous.
00:37:36.380That's true, you need to be more virtuous.
00:37:39.180But if you set up a system where this is constantly going on, where you're making it harder and harder for people to have communities,
00:37:47.620you're making it more and more difficult for people to start families, have children, bind themselves into these networks and associations.
00:37:54.360If you're actively undermining those incentives at every turn, which we are in many ways today,
00:38:01.220then you will end up in a society that is less virtuous.
00:38:04.280And again, that is not a free pass for the individual.
00:38:09.840That is not a free pass for us as a people.
00:38:12.500That's not a free pass for our moral actions or decisions.
00:38:15.080As an individual, you still have to make the decision,
00:38:41.240Every time the economy fails, a housing market fails, we have a public health failure or whatever, the government grows in power.
00:38:48.640In every situation, the government gets to grab more and more power because the things that were once done by the community,
00:38:55.520the things that were once done by the family, the things that were once done by other social spheres are now done by the government.
00:39:05.700And this is why once these barriers are gone, we have a hard time even imagining putting them back into place.
00:39:12.040So, for instance, today, conservatives talk a lot about parental rights, right?
00:39:15.700Because we see what's happening with the government.
00:39:17.980They're trying to indoctrinate kids with a lot of this transgender ideology, these kind of things.
00:39:25.180And so we talk a lot about parents' rights.
00:39:27.700However, when, for instance, another state, let's say, you know, another liberal state decides that they want kids to, you know,
00:39:35.760parents to be able to transition their kids at eight, all of a sudden we're like, no, you can't do that, right?
00:39:40.800Now, in other societies, and, you know, it's horrific, but in other societies, there wouldn't have been legal prohibitions in many cases against parents doing what they wanted with their children.
00:39:53.080The father was the head of the household or the father and mother together were the heads of the household.
00:39:58.760Never a situation where the community always had the ability to put input on every one of their decisions, right?
00:40:05.280And the reason, again, was that the state did not get to do that.
00:40:09.000Now, what would happen is that the community, sorry, I said community there when I should have said state, the state did not have the ability to reach into every one of those situations.
00:40:18.600Now, what happened is that a lot of times the community would put the pressure on them.
00:40:22.220So if you wanted to be able to go to church, if you wanted to be able to do business with a lot of people there, you had to treat your kids a certain way.
00:40:28.580And even if the state wasn't going to step in to, you know, to criticize or take control of the way that you raised your children, if you wanted to function inside the society, you needed to go ahead and behave a certain way.
00:40:42.220Your kids need to behave a certain way. You had to raise them with certain values and you had to treat them a certain way.
00:40:47.860And if you didn't, then people at church are going to look at you weird and people in the market are going to look at you weird and they're not going to want to talk to you and they're not going to be with your friend.
00:40:56.080They're not going to do business with you and they're not going to invite you to be their partner in the next venture.
00:41:01.160Like those are all things that would impact you. And the state didn't have to get involved in every one of these steps because while the decision was ultimately yours, you still had the control that was your social sphere.
00:41:13.600You were influenced by everyone else that you were dependent on.
00:41:16.540And so you didn't need the state to step in at every opportunity because just like we talked about with kind of the father and that kind of those blurry borders that where the places where you needed protection, but you didn't need a guy with a gun and a badge.
00:41:31.400You know, the same thing here with the parents. Yeah, you had technically the ability to treat your child how you wanted, but you better get at least this much right or the community is going to shun you.
00:41:43.160They're not going to want to be around you. You're going to be held responsible for those actions.
00:41:48.140And it meant that the state didn't have to step in. But now we've gotten rid of all of that.
00:41:52.100We can't even imagine parents being ultimately in charge of their children and their well-being.
00:41:57.380And so we say, you know, the conservative will say, oh, well, no, the state should step in.
00:42:01.200And I get it. Like there's a lot of horrific stuff that people are trying to do to their kids right now.
00:42:05.680So I totally understand why people want to go ahead and step in there.
00:42:09.140But we can't even get ourselves, even as people who say we're worried about big government, we can't even bring ourselves to a place where we could imagine parents actually being in control of their kids again.
00:42:20.020And that's because we've dissolved this responsibility both ways.
00:42:23.720Liberals and conservatives can't imagine a scenario where they actually let their neighbor raise their own kids.
00:42:29.500They think that the state would need to be involved in either direction.
00:42:33.220And a lot of that, you know, is because of the loss of virtue.
00:42:37.280You can't trust your neighbor not to, you know, go ahead and sterilize their kid at eight years old at this point.
00:42:43.280That's terrifying that that that is kind of where you're at when you're at a in a very degenerate society that's lost its virtue.
00:42:50.340So I totally again, I'm not I'm not out.
00:42:52.580I'm not here decrying people who are trying to protect children at all.
00:42:56.560What I'm saying is we've lost our ability to trust each other and to trust those alternative spheres of authority.
00:43:06.860Everybody wants the state to solve these problems because we simply cannot trust our neighbors at this point to to to resolve those issues for themselves.
00:43:14.120And so the battle come comes for the Leviathan of the state rather than for figuring out how to solve our problems as communities, as families.
00:43:26.560But that's mainly what I wanted to say about that, guys.
00:43:29.380I just wanted to explain how that transfers over, how all of those duties and responsibilities that used to be part of the family and community have been broken out individually and sold in the marketplace.
00:43:42.000And when the marketplace failed each one of those responsibilities, they eventually became the province of the government.
00:43:48.260That's why it feels like having control of the government is so important because it really does control everything at this point.
00:43:56.120We've broken out so many of those responsibilities.
00:44:00.000We've lost so much understanding what it is to, you know, to have duty and dependence.
00:44:06.100We've broken out so many of those relationships that we can't imagine a scenario where the state basically isn't in control of everything and the market isn't mediating all this stuff.
00:44:15.080And that's something that we're going to have to tackle.
00:44:17.900Because if we don't, if we don't understand how to rebind those things back into communities, then things are only going to get worse.
00:44:25.720It's only going to continue in this, down this path.
00:44:28.940Because the problem is that we have scaled these things too far and we've removed too much responsibility and we have moved too much of it into spheres where it was never supposed to go.
00:44:40.040And it's kind of brought us to the place where we are now.
00:44:44.000All right, guys, I'm going to go ahead and move over to one other thing that I wanted to discuss.
00:44:51.780Oh, nope, we do have, okay, we have a lot of questions of the people.
00:44:55.420So I'm going to move over to the questions of people because there's a lot and I want to be able to get to everybody.
00:46:49.000You know, truth is found in the Bible.
00:46:51.260And so you will find me often, hopefully, if I'm doing things right, if I am properly aligned, I will be aligned with the wisdom of the Bible.
00:47:00.340And you can always accuse me of just ripping off the Bible.
00:47:12.380Perspicacious Heretic says, was it the family unit that ultimately kept capitalism at its optimum?
00:47:17.300That's a great question and one that we have to think about, right?
00:47:20.060So I'm sure many of you are familiar with distributism, if for no other reason than my buddy and one of our well-loved creators in the sphere, Dave the Distributist, has him as that name.
00:47:31.220As the G.K. Chesterton, you know, is one of the key guys in distributism.
00:47:36.840And distributism's main thing is treating the family as the core economic unit instead of the individual.
00:47:45.140Now, I don't know if every part of distributism actually works in the real world.
00:47:49.940I don't know if there's a if there's a mixed economy system that works with a more distributist outlook and capitalism.
00:47:58.300It is a very difficult question as to whether the efficiency of capital can be properly harnessed and territorialized.
00:48:07.640I talked about this a lot in the accelerationism and and kind of the capital escape episodes I've done with Nick Land's theory.
00:48:17.980If you want to I don't want to rehash all of that now, but if you want to go back and watch those, you can kind of watch as I ponder this.
00:48:26.200This is something I'm still thinking a lot about.
00:50:17.660It really does seem obvious to me that Reaganomics caused this.
00:50:20.820And Republicans absolutely kowtow to corporations.
00:50:24.240Yeah, there's really no way around the fact that for a very long time, Republicans were corporate cheerleaders and they bowed to corporations in pretty much every instance.
00:50:37.460In many ways, that's understandable if you see them as allies against the left, which they seem like for a while.
00:50:44.720However, I think the thought of Sam Francis is very valuable and Leviathan is enemies.
00:50:49.780He explains why this was really a temporary animosity between establishment and corporations and the radical left and why those things have kind of now aligned, why we see woke capital today and what was happening there.
00:51:05.140But at the time, of course, a lot of people didn't know that.
00:51:07.660And it made, again, because communism was a very real threat.
00:51:12.560It's easy for us to look back and say, oh, how could people in the past have made this mistake when we don't put ourselves into where they were?
00:51:20.560Communism was a real threat in the 70s.
00:51:25.760Now, maybe it was overblown in some ways, but there was a real geopolitical foe and it really could have wiped out humanity in theory.
00:51:35.980And so you have to understand that the corporation and capitalism kind of as a tool against communism makes perfect sense at that time.
00:51:45.340And so just when you're when we're judging all of these things, understand that sometimes, you know, you do need to put yourself in the context, the historical context of what was happening.
00:51:55.900But the results of that are devastating.
00:52:00.060And so I think that while that maybe was a alliance that was made at the time for an understandable reason, it's something that has certainly outlived its usefulness.
00:52:11.320And you can see this because corporations have turned on conservatives quite quickly.
00:52:15.360And luckily, a lot of conservatives are learning that lesson, but they learned it after the corporations already turned on them, which which kind of is a problem.
00:52:24.240So Cooper Weirder says, sounds like socialism.
00:52:27.360Socialism is when capitalism is criticized.
00:52:29.680No one on the right has criticized capitalism ever.
00:52:31.860Yes, that is sadly very often the case.
00:52:34.320The minute you say maybe there are excesses, maybe there are problems.
00:52:39.360And, you know, that we need to remember that as we kind of operate our economic system.
00:52:46.380All of a sudden people start screaming socialists.
00:54:15.420The problem is, and I've had, I did it, I'm just going to reference all of my old episodes here.
00:54:20.380But I did an episode with Academic Agent.
00:54:22.520He came out and we talked about kind of the problem with the idea of the free market in the first place.
00:54:28.880If you want to, I don't want to break down all of that yet again.
00:54:31.620But if you want to go back and listen to that episode, we go into it in detail for over an hour, and I think there's a lot of truth to that.
00:54:39.060However, there is, of course, to your point, there is often a heavy intervention from the government to choose winners and losers in the marketplace, and that is most often when you see failure.
00:54:52.120All right, guys, we're going to go ahead and wrap it up here.
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