The Auron MacIntyre Show - Southport Scandal： How the UK Government Lied About Terrorism ｜ Guest： Connor Tomlinson

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00:01:29.520 All right, so if you've been following the goings-on in the U.K., then obviously you know about the social media crackdowns.

00:01:37.140 You know about the tyranny, frankly, that has been brought by the Labor Party to that country, and a lot of it centered around illegal immigration.

00:01:45.700 A mass knifing spree led to a number of riots of people who were just fed up with this constant excuse for people who don't belong in their country doing violence against the people there.

00:01:57.760 Now, at the time, we were told that this attack had nothing to do with radical Islam.

00:02:03.480 In fact, people were thrown in prison, or they were charged at least because they had stated this fact that this was going to be connected to radical Islam.

00:02:12.700 Well, it turns out now there's been a revelation that actually this was, in fact, in some ways, it seems, it appears, influenced by radical Islam and therefore connected to the wider discussion about mass immigration that is absolutely devastating the United Kingdom.

00:02:29.600 Joining me to talk about that today is Conor. He is one of the hosts over at the Lotus Eaters and writes a number of great columns.

00:02:39.360 Conor Tomlinson, thanks for coming on, man.

00:02:41.440 No, thank you very much for the invitation, Oral. I appreciate it.

00:02:44.140 So for people who aren't familiar, I've talked about this a few times on the show, but people might not be familiar with the events because they're over in the U.K., may not be following that news as closely.

00:02:55.100 Can you lay out just the basics of what initially was revealed to people when this knife attack occurred?

00:03:02.540 Yeah, sure. So I believe it was July the 29th. There was a Taylor Swift dance class in a town called Southport, which is a little bit near Liverpool.

00:03:12.800 And a 17-year-old then, recently turned 18-year-old, Welsh-born son of Rwandan migrants called Axel Rudabachana, who is allegedly the person who has committed these atrocities, that he was apprehended at the scene holding a knife, so probably a slam-dunk conviction.

00:03:32.720 He got a cab to the dance class, so he knew where it was, went down an alley, and decided to stab three young girls to death.

00:03:41.140 They were Elsie Dotstancombe, Alice De Silva-Aguar, and B.B. King. Injure about ten more with a blade.

00:03:49.020 His motive was unknown at the time. There has been speculation since that eyewitnesses might be able to provide a little bit more insight as to that.

00:03:58.940 But at the time, we were told not to speculate. And before his name had been released by the press, there was a fake story that was circulated by a Pakistani national who was charged, admitted to circulating the story, admitted to misleading police, and then had his charges dropped.

00:04:15.360 But the story was that the perpetrator was a small boat migrant from Syria who'd come to the country the week before, and that he had shouted, Allah, Hawakbar, while he did it.

00:04:25.100 That was all false. Lots of people spread that story. I, fortunately, was one of the people who checked the source and decided against it.

00:04:32.060 But lots of people did, and they were subsequently questioned by the police, and some were charged, even.

00:04:37.740 There was a chap who has been now sent to prison for, I believe it's three years, for inciting racial hatred for doing this,

00:04:45.640 because he suggested that the perpetrator of the Southport massacre was an Islamic terrorist.

00:04:53.260 Then, when the identity of Axel Rudabachana came out, people were going, well, okay, he was born in Wales, so he's Welsh.

00:04:59.560 As Douglas Murray joked recently in his Spectator column, he must be as British as roast beef, because he's touched the magic soil.

00:05:05.260 And then, also, that Rwanda is a majority Christian country, therefore it can have absolutely nothing to do with Islam.

00:05:12.400 Nobody stopped to explain per capita to these people, of course, that, of course, there are different religions in different countries.

00:05:18.700 Just because it's the majority doesn't mean it's determinant.

00:05:20.600 But anyway, until the weekend, there was absolutely no evidence that Axel Rudabachana was influenced by Islam at all.

00:05:27.760 And his sentencing hearing was scheduled for last Friday.

00:05:30.780 And mysteriously, it was taken out of the schedule without any announcement.

00:05:35.480 And the reason we now know is, it was delayed to avoid coinciding with the Tommy Robinson rally on Saturday,

00:05:41.320 that Robinson himself did not attend, because he is now in prison in Belmarsh for showing a film which was ruled libelous in 2021.

00:05:48.360 Strangely, he's in the same prison as Rudabachana, who awaits his trial in January.

00:05:52.700 When the hearing actually happened on Tuesday, around three o'clock,

00:05:56.720 Rudabachana was charged with the Biological Weapons Act for the production of ricin at his home,

00:06:03.680 that he was obviously planning to use in a wider-scale attack, but never got to use.

00:06:08.580 And then also for possession of an Al-Qaeda training manual.

00:06:12.140 Now, he was detained under the Terrorism Act for this,

00:06:15.840 but counter-terror police have not declared this an act of terror,

00:06:19.140 which has left people without obviously wanting to commit contempt of court,

00:06:23.140 because in the UK, the entire public and the press is sequestered,

00:06:26.780 rather than the jury, to protect the jury, which is strange,

00:06:29.540 without wanting to commit contempt of court.

00:06:30.860 Lots of people are scratching their heads as to why it hasn't been declared an act of terror

00:06:34.060 when he's being charged under the Terrorism Act.

00:06:38.100 And again, people are wondering if certain things are going to come to light in the trial

00:06:41.440 that cast more light on that.

00:06:42.900 But the major question is,

00:06:44.960 OK, when Keir Starmer, Home Secretary of Etc Cooper,

00:06:47.880 all the police and the courts were calling, charging, questioning, imprisoning people

00:06:53.400 for saying this had a connection to do with Islam,

00:06:56.020 they were saying all of those people are far-right

00:06:57.840 and spreading Islamophobic misinformation.

00:07:00.240 When did they know?

00:07:01.400 Because his house was searched immediately after he was apprehended on July 29th,

00:07:06.220 and now the government are saying,

00:07:07.480 well, we only found out that these extra charges were going to be brought forth a couple of weeks ago.

00:07:12.640 Sorry, that doesn't quite fly,

00:07:14.680 because you would have been told about this evidence,

00:07:17.040 according to anonymous counter-terror police who have spoken to the Telegraph today,

00:07:21.960 they would have been told almost instantly.

00:07:23.840 So how long were they withholding this information from the public,

00:07:27.360 and which press outlets and which members of the criminal justice system

00:07:32.580 have been directed to ensure that this information is put out in such a way

00:07:37.620 that it controls public outrage

00:07:39.600 so that it doesn't look very unfavorable to a very unpopular government?

00:07:42.660 Yeah, I want to get a lot deeper into this,

00:07:46.120 because I think it says a lot about what's happening in the UK,

00:07:48.900 and unfortunately, what is also being mirrored across several Western liberal democracies,

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00:09:01.500 All right, Connor, so we're in this scenario where a lot of people have been building tension, right?

00:09:09.180 We know that mass immigration is deeply unpopular in the UK, as it is in most nations,

00:09:16.160 and many people have been trying to push back.

00:09:19.320 They've been trying to vote for someone who will do something about it,

00:09:22.380 and it seems like no matter who they vote for,

00:09:24.760 no matter what that person promises, the doors stay open, right?

00:09:28.460 And again, as an American, this is a frustration I can most assuredly share with you guys.

00:09:33.620 And as you see the terror attacks coming from those that have moved into the area,

00:09:39.240 the grooming gangs, all of the violence for people who should not be there,

00:09:43.120 should not be involved,

00:09:44.480 the natural inclination of the people who live there is going to be,

00:09:49.680 I don't want to see any of this.

00:09:51.680 I don't want to be involved in any of this.

00:09:53.120 And my representatives, the people who are supposed to be listening to me when I vote for them,

00:09:58.280 simply will not address this issue at all.

00:10:01.040 And so very naturally, this pressure builds,

00:10:04.120 and something like this happens, an event like this happens,

00:10:06.380 and you have protests, many of them which turn into something more,

00:10:11.520 perhaps riots in some scenarios.

00:10:13.540 This is, as I understood, a relatively nationwide phenomenon in response to what happened to this,

00:10:19.240 or at least 30 or more of these protests throughout the country.

00:10:23.460 When you have the government actively lying about what happened here,

00:10:29.780 actively covering up the motivation,

00:10:32.260 and jailing people for properly identifying the motive,

00:10:36.300 this can only lead to the most heinous type of,

00:10:41.220 you know, just break between the people and their trust

00:10:44.000 in any of the institutions that are involved here.

00:10:47.000 Because, well, as you point out,

00:10:49.060 some people were spreading complete lies about what was going on.

00:10:52.620 They were spreading things that turned out to be false.

00:10:55.760 The inclinations of people were directionally correct.

00:10:58.460 They thought, okay, this is a problem I've observed on a regular basis,

00:11:02.040 and if the government is going to lie about this to me,

00:11:05.400 then I'm going to believe whoever will tell me something that sounds like the truth.

00:11:10.080 And because the government absolutely refused to address the problem itself

00:11:13.400 and take it head on and take responsibility

00:11:15.120 and actually deal with it and instead just silence people,

00:11:18.420 this is only going to push them further down this road

00:11:21.640 of not believing any official sources and buying into things,

00:11:25.180 even if they're unfortunately false in the moment,

00:11:27.640 because ultimately the government has made it very clear

00:11:30.220 that they have no interest in actually communicating

00:11:33.320 or addressing any of the issues that people care about

00:11:36.720 and instead are willing to punish anyone who steps out of line,

00:11:39.480 even if they're actually, you know,

00:11:41.740 declaring something that ultimately turns out to be correct.

00:11:44.940 Well, what's interesting is that the likes of Wayne O'Rourke,

00:11:49.200 who were sent to prison for sharing the false identity,

00:11:53.280 the original false identity of the Southport perpetrator

00:11:55.780 as being a small boat migrant,

00:11:57.900 was sent to prison not for spreading misinformation,

00:12:00.000 but because he was doing it to incite racial hatred

00:12:03.920 on the premise that he said the attacker was a Muslim.

00:12:08.140 Now, we don't know what Axel Rudabachana's motivation is,

00:12:12.280 we just know that he was in possession of an Al-Qaeda training manual,

00:12:15.480 which is enough to arouse suspicion.

00:12:17.520 Again, we can't prejudice the trial,

00:12:18.820 but if it does come out after the trial,

00:12:21.720 the speculation that the perpetrator,

00:12:23.780 even if the name was wrong,

00:12:25.140 even if his national origin was wrong,

00:12:26.560 was a Muslim,

00:12:28.480 will this person's sentence be revised?

00:12:30.680 The problem that we've got here

00:12:32.680 is that lots of the people who have been imprisoned,

00:12:35.600 whether they participated in a protest

00:12:37.200 and didn't do any violent action,

00:12:39.760 like Peter Lynch, a 61-year-old grandfather,

00:12:42.400 who, as an inquest is now found,

00:12:44.560 hanged himself in his cell

00:12:46.540 because he was encouraged to plead guilty

00:12:49.100 to, I believe it was just,

00:12:52.380 was it violent disorder?

00:12:53.440 But the actual details were

00:12:55.400 that he was just shouting at a police officer

00:12:56.900 while present at a protest

00:12:58.140 where other people would violate them.

00:12:59.500 Or other people,

00:13:00.920 like the wife of a conservative counsellor

00:13:03.340 who's posted some inflammatory things on Twitter,

00:13:07.060 but who had no prior convictions

00:13:08.240 and has now been jailed for two years,

00:13:09.580 which is more than at least 30 paedophiles

00:13:12.420 with class A exploitation material in their possession

00:13:15.500 who didn't get any jail time got as of this year.

00:13:18.360 Will any of these people

00:13:19.480 have their sentences revised?

00:13:21.880 Highly, highly doubt it.

00:13:22.920 Will the likes of Nick Lowell's of Hope Not Hate,

00:13:25.180 who spread misinformation during these protests.

00:13:28.820 Hope Not Hate, by the way,

00:13:29.740 for those that don't know,

00:13:30.500 there is an American branch,

00:13:31.840 but they are a self-described anti-fascist outfit

00:13:35.560 funded by the UK Home Office

00:13:37.620 who employ a former member of the National Front,

00:13:39.960 now a member of the Communist Party,

00:13:41.120 who praised Stalin's Red Army on camera in 2013

00:13:44.360 as the head of research.

00:13:45.740 The head, Nick Lowell's,

00:13:47.100 spread a hoax about the far right

00:13:50.320 doing acid attacks against Muslim women.

00:13:52.580 This was later cited on camera

00:13:54.320 by a Muslim counter-demonstrator

00:13:56.420 on the same day that a bunch of Muslims

00:13:58.040 masked up, carried weapons,

00:13:59.820 slashed the tyres on a Sky News van

00:14:01.220 and lacerated the liver of an innocent pub goer.

00:14:04.220 Will he be charged?

00:14:05.480 Because he still hasn't yet,

00:14:06.860 and it's been out there for months.

00:14:08.280 So when you hear this meme of two-tier policing,

00:14:11.740 two-tier justice, two-tier care,

00:14:13.440 it's because people are recognising a pattern.

00:14:15.800 People have been imprisoned, persecuted,

00:14:18.880 at the very least insulted from a podium in Downing Street

00:14:22.320 for having contrary political views

00:14:25.120 and noticing said patterns.

00:14:27.120 And now it doesn't look like the regime

00:14:30.280 is going to admit any fault.

00:14:31.520 And we see this every single time.

00:14:32.920 There's a terror attack, by the way.

00:14:33.880 I mean, reminder,

00:14:35.180 every single one of these atrocities

00:14:36.680 is a choice made to subject us

00:14:39.380 to this kind of suffering

00:14:40.320 by our ruling class,

00:14:41.900 by the government,

00:14:42.500 by the civil service,

00:14:43.180 who, for some reason,

00:14:44.300 think we need to battery farm

00:14:45.640 foreign criminals

00:14:46.380 at the native population's expense.

00:14:47.880 And any time you complain about it,

00:14:49.120 you're far right.

00:14:49.900 But not just that,

00:14:51.160 I've got a piece coming out

00:14:52.180 for Ian Hirsi Ali's Courage Media soon.

00:14:54.520 I've done a show on this

00:14:55.460 on LotusEats.com.

00:14:56.740 The UK has a body in the Home Office,

00:14:59.040 which is kind of like our Department

00:15:00.960 of Homeland Security,

00:15:02.320 called RICU.

00:15:03.480 It's the Research Intelligence

00:15:05.000 and Communications Unit, I believe.

00:15:07.580 And it was set up in the early 2000s,

00:15:09.280 but remodeled in 2011,

00:15:11.320 because they brought a guy over

00:15:12.420 who was running PSY-OPS

00:15:13.600 out of Baghdad

00:15:14.860 for pro-Arock war causes

00:15:16.720 to come back and run PSY-OPS

00:15:18.040 on the UK population.

00:15:19.380 And what they do every time

00:15:20.260 there's a terror attack

00:15:21.000 is they bus out imams for photo ops.

00:15:23.520 They spread prefabricated hashtags.

00:15:26.520 They run prefabricated pro-Muslim photos

00:15:29.780 on the front page

00:15:30.760 of national newspapers.

00:15:32.620 And actually, I believe the sister,

00:15:34.300 who is one of the chief operations

00:15:35.560 of RICU,

00:15:37.180 she was running a pro-Muslim organization

00:15:40.760 that was receiving government funding

00:15:42.160 to make it look like Muslim women

00:15:44.260 are standing up to oppression overseas

00:15:46.300 to give the Muslim community

00:15:47.820 in Britain a bit of a facelift

00:15:49.000 any time one of them reads

00:15:50.760 the Quran a bit too hard

00:15:52.140 and takes things like the whole

00:15:53.820 jihad idea a bit too seriously.

00:15:55.380 So the UK government

00:15:57.040 is stealing at an increasing rate

00:16:00.240 taxes from the native population

00:16:02.000 to not only spend on the social housing

00:16:04.040 and even, it turns out,

00:16:04.920 the bomb materials

00:16:05.640 of the 2017 Manchester Arena bomber,

00:16:07.680 but also to spend on PR

00:16:09.240 on behalf of the community,

00:16:11.800 most at fault for these per capita,

00:16:14.320 to convince the native population

00:16:16.040 don't look back in anger

00:16:17.040 when their children are killed.

00:16:18.180 So this gaslighting operation

00:16:20.640 predates Southport

00:16:21.900 is at an industrial scale

00:16:23.660 and it's not a shock why,

00:16:26.140 particularly in the Labour heartlands

00:16:27.360 where a lot of these riots kicked off,

00:16:28.880 and I'm not condoning them,

00:16:29.860 but it's not a shock why people,

00:16:31.340 when they feel lied to,

00:16:34.180 not at all represented in politics,

00:16:36.160 not having their concerns addressed

00:16:38.240 with mass immigration and Islamism,

00:16:40.140 why people start to kick off

00:16:41.960 in violent fashions.

00:16:43.120 It's an unfortunate consequence

00:16:44.500 of the government's policy.

00:16:45.720 Yeah, and every time it happens,

00:16:48.120 of course, they only see this

00:16:49.360 as a validation of their actions, right?

00:16:52.080 They only see this

00:16:52.880 as further justification

00:16:53.840 and use it as an excuse

00:16:55.880 to expand their power.

00:16:57.180 And of course, unfortunately,

00:16:58.460 we can see parallels

00:16:59.700 here in the United States.

00:17:00.980 Of course, we have the First Amendment,

00:17:02.580 which gives us a certain degree

00:17:04.240 of extra protection,

00:17:05.460 though still that gets violated.

00:17:07.240 We saw what happened to Douglas Mackey,

00:17:09.440 as you and I were talking about

00:17:10.680 before we got on camera.

00:17:12.720 Mackey was, of course,

00:17:14.140 sentenced to prison

00:17:15.020 for putting out a meme

00:17:16.360 about Hillary Clinton

00:17:17.960 and people voting in the wrong way.

00:17:20.820 And then Jimmy Kimmel

00:17:21.700 just did a joke

00:17:22.960 on late night television

00:17:24.140 saying basically the same thing

00:17:26.020 that Douglas Mackey did in his meme,

00:17:28.700 but about Donald Trump,

00:17:29.620 about, oh, yeah,

00:17:30.160 you can vote late.

00:17:31.420 You can just vote really late,

00:17:32.620 like after the election,

00:17:33.680 you know, these kind of things.

00:17:34.800 It's the same thing.

00:17:35.880 It's both were jokes.

00:17:37.340 Both were talking about

00:17:38.480 basically setting up a scenario

00:17:40.140 in which the other side

00:17:41.280 didn't vote correctly

00:17:42.580 or couldn't get their vote counted

00:17:44.000 and therefore they would not be able

00:17:45.820 to actually participate

00:17:46.720 in the election.

00:17:47.680 But Douglas Mackey is treated

00:17:48.800 as a threat to democracy

00:17:49.920 and he is sentenced to prison

00:17:51.480 as where Jimmy Kimmel

00:17:52.640 just continues to move on

00:17:53.880 with nothing.

00:17:54.800 And of course,

00:17:55.500 we have the similar scenario

00:17:56.660 when it comes to terrorism.

00:17:58.600 We had Antifa,

00:17:59.620 which we're told is just

00:18:00.780 an idea by the FBI director,

00:18:03.420 Christopher Wray,

00:18:04.060 who was sadly appointed

00:18:05.260 by Donald Trump.

00:18:07.060 And so you have this scenario

00:18:08.360 where the government pretends

00:18:09.960 like left-wing terrorism

00:18:11.220 from Black Lives Matter

00:18:12.980 or Antifa isn't real.

00:18:15.020 And any guy who happens to,

00:18:17.280 you know,

00:18:17.600 definitely not be an FBI agent

00:18:19.700 waving mid-century German flags

00:18:22.100 is an indication

00:18:23.420 that actually just,

00:18:24.360 you know,

00:18:24.560 white nationalism

00:18:25.240 or something like that

00:18:26.100 is absolutely dominating.

00:18:27.740 So it seems like

00:18:28.680 whether you're in the UK

00:18:29.860 or the US,

00:18:31.340 the story is always the same.

00:18:33.940 The elites need mass immigration.

00:18:36.100 It doesn't matter

00:18:36.980 how many people they bring in.

00:18:38.900 Diversity is our strength.

00:18:40.700 You can,

00:18:41.340 you know,

00:18:41.520 in the United States,

00:18:42.380 steal money from taxpayers

00:18:43.460 and fly in people from Haiti

00:18:45.520 to displace large populations

00:18:47.240 in the middle of Ohio,

00:18:48.840 just like your government

00:18:50.200 can steal money,

00:18:51.180 you know,

00:18:51.820 to try to do facelifts

00:18:53.320 for immigrant communities

00:18:54.360 who shouldn't be in there

00:18:55.480 for the first place,

00:18:56.280 but they're still allowing in

00:18:57.540 no matter how much violence.

00:18:58.960 It just seems like

00:18:59.760 the parallels are amazing.

00:19:01.560 And I guess we know why

00:19:03.220 because we found out

00:19:04.760 just a little bit ago

00:19:05.820 that our ruling classes

00:19:06.880 are swapping notes

00:19:07.700 and working together

00:19:08.600 in an attempt to silence

00:19:10.100 people like Elon Musk

00:19:11.420 and platforms like Twitter.

00:19:12.820 When does fast grocery delivery

00:19:14.760 through Instacart matter most?

00:19:16.500 When your famous

00:19:17.300 grainy mustard potato salad

00:19:18.840 isn't so famous

00:19:19.820 without the grainy mustard.

00:19:21.340 When the barbecue's lit,

00:19:22.620 but there's nothing to grill.

00:19:24.020 When the in-laws decide that,

00:19:25.620 actually,

00:19:26.200 they will stay for dinner.

00:19:27.740 Instacart has all your groceries

00:19:29.160 covered this summer.

00:19:30.300 So download the app

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00:19:32.040 in as fast as 60 minutes.

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00:19:38.680 and terms apply.

00:19:39.900 Instacart.

00:19:40.740 Groceries that over-deliver.

00:19:42.280 Yeah, I believe it was

00:19:44.160 August the 16th

00:19:45.600 where they had the meeting

00:19:46.660 with the Centre for Countering

00:19:47.540 Digital Hate,

00:19:48.320 so at the height

00:19:48.860 of the protests

00:19:49.820 slash riots

00:19:50.680 after the Southport Massacre.

00:19:52.560 They met with

00:19:53.860 the Home Office,

00:19:56.740 the Keir Starmer himself,

00:19:58.500 I believe,

00:19:59.020 was present,

00:19:59.900 the Met Police,

00:20:00.800 the Department for Science

00:20:02.460 and Technology,

00:20:03.200 and they all tried

00:20:04.600 to conspire

00:20:05.260 to, quote,

00:20:06.520 kill Musk's Twitter.

00:20:07.660 The other means

00:20:08.780 of narrative control

00:20:09.480 that they use

00:20:09.840 in this country

00:20:10.360 under the auspices

00:20:11.420 of Raikou

00:20:12.020 is a program

00:20:12.520 called Prevent.

00:20:13.240 It's an anti-terror

00:20:14.260 program,

00:20:15.480 meant to be a watchdog.

00:20:16.800 Originally,

00:20:17.600 the campaign against Prevent

00:20:18.860 was started by

00:20:19.940 a group called

00:20:20.620 Hizb ut Tahir,

00:20:21.400 which is now a prescribed

00:20:22.340 Islamist terrorist group.

00:20:23.860 People will notice

00:20:24.500 in the aftermath

00:20:25.020 of October the 7th,

00:20:26.200 they were the ones

00:20:26.740 with the big orange banner

00:20:27.980 unfold in the middle

00:20:29.540 of London

00:20:29.940 saying Muslim armies

00:20:31.320 rise up for jihad.

00:20:33.520 Yeah,

00:20:33.740 they've now been banned.

00:20:35.000 One of the doctors

00:20:36.300 who was a member

00:20:37.400 of theirs

00:20:37.800 went on Piers Morgan's

00:20:38.800 show a little while ago

00:20:40.040 and ranted and raved.

00:20:42.000 They were finally prescribed,

00:20:43.480 despite actually

00:20:44.080 when Keir Starmer

00:20:45.120 was a lawyer

00:20:45.920 taking jobs

00:20:47.680 in their defense.

00:20:49.340 But Prevent

00:20:50.420 was meant to be

00:20:51.580 monitoring anti-extremism.

00:20:52.980 Now,

00:20:53.160 you would think

00:20:53.680 considering 38,000 Muslims

00:20:56.060 are on the MI5

00:20:57.160 terror watch list,

00:20:58.400 they'd spend a lot

00:20:58.940 of their time

00:20:59.360 looking at that

00:20:59.940 and also considering

00:21:00.940 that 80% of active

00:21:02.420 terror investigations

00:21:03.300 in the UK

00:21:03.860 are for Muslims.

00:21:05.180 But when William Shawcross

00:21:06.600 looked into this

00:21:07.280 in a 2023 report

00:21:08.520 for the government,

00:21:09.500 he found that

00:21:10.320 the majority

00:21:11.020 of these

00:21:12.220 ideologically designated

00:21:14.480 open anti-extremism

00:21:16.840 monitoring cases,

00:21:18.000 22% of them,

00:21:19.220 were for the far right.

00:21:20.320 Now,

00:21:20.460 in 2019,

00:21:21.440 they put up a list

00:21:22.560 of what texts

00:21:23.560 they considered far right

00:21:24.520 and they included

00:21:25.080 Douglas Murray,

00:21:26.720 George Orwell's 1984,

00:21:28.340 as if there wasn't

00:21:28.820 a hint of irony,

00:21:29.780 Aldous Huxley's

00:21:30.380 Brave New World,

00:21:31.260 Beowulf,

00:21:31.900 The Lord of the Rings,

00:21:32.940 C.S. Lewis,

00:21:33.520 and Michael Portillo's

00:21:34.660 Great Western Railway

00:21:35.740 Journeys.

00:21:36.520 So if you get a bit

00:21:37.380 too much into

00:21:38.240 Kenneth Clark's

00:21:38.980 civilisation,

00:21:40.220 you're a far right

00:21:41.060 extremist akin to

00:21:42.800 something like

00:21:43.380 Patriot Front

00:21:43.980 over in the US.

00:21:45.060 But if you're

00:21:45.840 a Muslim extremist,

00:21:46.880 number one,

00:21:47.400 the Quran is not

00:21:48.180 listed as a text

00:21:49.100 which might tip you

00:21:50.120 over into terrorism

00:21:51.440 despite all the verses

00:21:52.380 that say kill unbelievers.

00:21:53.900 But also,

00:21:54.620 the majority of

00:21:55.280 Islamic terrorists

00:21:55.800 aren't even classified

00:21:56.480 as Islamists.

00:21:57.300 They're classified

00:21:57.780 as having mental health

00:21:58.820 issues or family

00:21:59.700 difficulties,

00:22:00.340 which is the bulk

00:22:00.940 of them now.

00:22:01.880 So Shawcross turned

00:22:02.740 around and said,

00:22:03.520 the majority of

00:22:04.520 terror incidents

00:22:05.280 are Islamic in nature,

00:22:06.480 but you aren't

00:22:07.080 monitoring them.

00:22:08.280 Why is that?

00:22:08.960 And it's because

00:22:09.280 there are certain

00:22:09.760 ideological biases

00:22:10.800 baked into our

00:22:11.920 ruling class.

00:22:12.880 They have open

00:22:13.720 contempt for the

00:22:14.520 host population.

00:22:15.560 And I think there

00:22:16.000 are a couple of

00:22:16.880 predominant reasons

00:22:17.440 for this.

00:22:17.940 The first is there's

00:22:18.640 a 700 strong

00:22:19.820 Muslim activist

00:22:20.660 network embedded

00:22:21.460 in the Home Office

00:22:22.100 that are trying to

00:22:23.560 recruit more Muslims

00:22:24.380 because of in-group

00:22:24.980 preference,

00:22:25.660 but also set the

00:22:26.580 agenda to take on

00:22:28.680 board Muslim

00:22:29.420 concerns.

00:22:29.880 So it might explain

00:22:31.020 why they're a bit

00:22:31.520 soft on the reputation

00:22:32.740 of Islam.

00:22:33.820 But another thing

00:22:35.060 that connects to

00:22:35.600 this is the fact

00:22:36.180 that they've been

00:22:36.680 opening up prison

00:22:37.540 spaces for all of

00:22:38.700 these, quote,

00:22:39.720 far-right rioters,

00:22:41.200 either by allowing

00:22:42.240 pedophiles to walk

00:22:43.140 free with no jail

00:22:44.240 sentences, or there

00:22:45.160 was a guy, I think

00:22:46.600 it was yesterday it

00:22:47.240 was announced, he

00:22:47.940 committed a hit and

00:22:48.700 run, killed a 36-year-old

00:22:50.440 native Englishman in

00:22:51.980 this country, and he

00:22:54.080 sped away from the

00:22:54.660 scene, it was really

00:22:55.320 well lit.

00:22:56.660 His defense lawyer

00:22:57.360 said, oh, but he is

00:22:58.360 remorseful though, and

00:22:59.680 he got away with

00:23:00.720 300 hours of unpaid

00:23:02.080 work and a 27-month

00:23:03.220 driving ban.

00:23:04.240 He just so happened

00:23:04.860 to be called

00:23:05.460 Mohammed Rashid, I

00:23:06.540 wonder if that's

00:23:07.100 connected somehow.

00:23:08.260 But all of the

00:23:08.800 rioters are being

00:23:09.640 imprisoned for

00:23:10.320 multiple years to

00:23:11.460 make space, rather

00:23:12.520 than deport the

00:23:13.220 11,000 foreign

00:23:14.320 criminals in this

00:23:14.960 country, which they

00:23:15.540 could do at any

00:23:16.360 time, instead they

00:23:18.120 are releasing

00:23:18.920 periodically thousands

00:23:20.440 of criminals when

00:23:21.300 they've only served

00:23:21.840 40% of their

00:23:22.500 sentence.

00:23:23.080 I think it was

00:23:23.320 1,700 on September

00:23:24.720 the 10th, and last

00:23:25.960 week it was 1,100 on

00:23:28.260 a single day.

00:23:29.300 36 of those, by

00:23:30.440 the way, or 37,

00:23:31.640 weren't meant to be

00:23:32.240 let out, they were

00:23:32.800 mistakes, and we've

00:23:33.640 also had some prison

00:23:34.340 breaks on that day,

00:23:35.340 which is brilliant.

00:23:36.180 We don't know where

00:23:36.620 those people are now.

00:23:38.200 Some of them have

00:23:38.700 been returned to

00:23:39.340 prison, thankfully,

00:23:40.400 but there's going to

00:23:41.400 be lots of re-offenders

00:23:42.280 in there.

00:23:42.900 And I think this is

00:23:43.760 all connected.

00:23:44.420 The immigration

00:23:45.060 issue, the treatment

00:23:46.440 of criminals, and the

00:23:47.700 persecution of

00:23:48.700 people who are

00:23:50.320 campaigning on behalf

00:23:51.660 of those of us with

00:23:52.520 pattern recognition or

00:23:53.500 for divisive racist

00:23:54.500 populists like Donald

00:23:55.320 Trump.

00:23:56.460 Emily Finley's got a

00:23:57.320 really good book

00:23:57.740 about this, the

00:23:58.200 ideology of democracy.

00:23:59.900 Basically, liberals

00:24:00.820 and Marxists, twin

00:24:02.480 arsecheeks of the

00:24:03.240 Enlightenment, both see

00:24:04.580 human beings as blank

00:24:05.380 slates.

00:24:06.320 Therefore, any time

00:24:07.720 that there is a

00:24:08.500 criminal or an

00:24:09.820 unassimilable hostile

00:24:12.140 ethnic diaspora that

00:24:13.600 has been brought into

00:24:14.220 the country and isn't

00:24:15.100 as British or American

00:24:15.960 as you and me by

00:24:16.680 stepping through the

00:24:17.200 passport gates, or

00:24:18.240 even the most ardent

00:24:19.100 jihadist, any time they

00:24:20.540 break from

00:24:21.020 civilization, it's

00:24:21.780 civilization's fault.

00:24:22.840 They haven't bent

00:24:23.360 over backwards enough

00:24:24.160 to accommodate them.

00:24:24.920 They haven't lowered

00:24:25.540 enough flags or given

00:24:27.240 them enough social

00:24:27.900 housing, and actually

00:24:29.400 they would awaken to

00:24:30.760 their progressive

00:24:31.420 egalitarian blank

00:24:32.660 slate consciousness if

00:24:34.000 only these divisive

00:24:35.080 race of populists like

00:24:36.620 Donald Trump or

00:24:37.740 Nigel Farage weren't

00:24:39.440 walking around saying

00:24:40.500 that group commits an

00:24:42.560 awful lot of terror

00:24:43.120 attacks, doesn't it?

00:24:44.040 So what they need to be,

00:24:45.320 like Musk's Twitter, is

00:24:46.800 censored, disparaged as

00:24:49.080 akin to Adolf Hitler, or

00:24:50.640 even shot by a bullet in

00:24:52.600 the case of Donald Trump

00:24:53.460 by Thomas Matthew Crooks,

00:24:54.700 cheered on by the

00:24:55.460 Democrat establishment,

00:24:56.300 to ensure that the

00:24:58.120 scales fall from the

00:24:59.080 eyes of every foreign

00:25:00.260 terrorist who have

00:25:00.860 been ported and they

00:25:01.660 suddenly become peaceful

00:25:02.540 law-abiding citizens.

00:25:03.920 It's fundamentally

00:25:04.760 cynical because it's

00:25:05.720 creating a clientele

00:25:06.820 voting bloc that is

00:25:07.780 never going to vote for

00:25:08.480 their political opponents,

00:25:09.320 but also dangerously

00:25:10.680 naive because human

00:25:11.440 nature just doesn't

00:25:12.200 work that way.

00:25:12.900 But because it's akin to

00:25:14.120 a religious commitment,

00:25:15.020 it seems like we're

00:25:15.760 going to be suffering

00:25:16.360 indefinitely for their

00:25:17.360 delusions.

00:25:18.500 Yeah, this pattern

00:25:19.520 repeats over and over

00:25:20.700 again with good reason.

00:25:21.980 You bring in young men

00:25:24.040 who don't have a lot

00:25:25.320 of prospects or

00:25:26.880 connections in an area

00:25:28.520 because they don't

00:25:29.740 speak the language,

00:25:30.600 they're not familiar

00:25:31.180 with the culture, they

00:25:32.180 don't have the type of

00:25:33.140 professional or social

00:25:34.420 background or educational

00:25:35.700 background in most

00:25:36.520 cases necessary to fill

00:25:38.660 the roles.

00:25:39.320 They feel alienated

00:25:40.440 because they can't find

00:25:41.460 work, they can't find

00:25:42.460 community, they end up

00:25:44.160 in a scenario where

00:25:45.240 very high unemployment in

00:25:47.780 those populations.

00:25:48.620 they have nothing to do

00:25:50.340 but sit around all day

00:25:51.860 and notice the fact that

00:25:53.360 they don't quite fit in,

00:25:54.840 not because, you know,

00:25:56.040 there's anything wrong

00:25:57.040 with the society that

00:25:58.200 hasn't welcomed them

00:25:59.140 with open arms, but

00:26:00.300 because they were cruelly

00:26:01.820 injected into a scenario

00:26:03.840 where they were never

00:26:04.640 going to fit in.

00:26:05.560 They were not adjacent

00:26:06.760 to these cultures, they

00:26:07.960 did not have the same

00:26:08.820 religion or history or

00:26:10.620 tradition or background

00:26:11.840 as these cultures and

00:26:13.220 they were always going to

00:26:14.120 feel alienated and so

00:26:15.460 there's nothing left for

00:26:16.600 them to do but stew on

00:26:18.200 the propaganda that's

00:26:19.240 constantly being blasted

00:26:21.040 into their minds 24-7

00:26:22.980 that the entire, you

00:26:24.480 know, civilization that

00:26:25.880 they have now been

00:26:26.480 imported into is hostile

00:26:28.980 towards them simply for

00:26:30.560 their existence and they

00:26:32.180 start looking for ways

00:26:33.760 in which they can belong,

00:26:35.240 ways in which they can

00:26:36.160 lash out and they end up

00:26:38.400 finding ideologies like

00:26:39.960 Islam or in the United

00:26:41.160 States.

00:26:41.860 More often it tends to be

00:26:42.920 some kind of gang

00:26:43.960 affiliation, these type of

00:26:45.320 things, though of course

00:26:46.180 we also have our own

00:26:47.720 Islamic terrorist problem

00:26:49.280 as well, but not as

00:26:50.920 pronounced as your own.

00:26:52.020 But this is just a cycle

00:26:53.640 that is inevitable due to,

00:26:55.860 as you point out, the fact

00:26:57.300 that the left and, you

00:26:59.200 know, unfortunately parts of

00:27:01.000 the right simply will not

00:27:02.440 recognize the fact that when

00:27:04.380 you bring foreign

00:27:05.180 populations in, they don't

00:27:06.840 magically become part of

00:27:08.840 your nation.

00:27:09.540 They don't magically lose

00:27:11.260 all those differences and

00:27:12.460 those more of those

00:27:13.340 differences become apparent,

00:27:14.460 the more isolated they

00:27:15.760 become and the more

00:27:16.620 hostile they become.

00:27:18.160 Yeah, I want to pick up

00:27:19.500 on one small bit of

00:27:21.280 framing there, far be it

00:27:22.900 from me to disagree with

00:27:24.260 you on your own show or

00:27:25.040 on, but it's not for a

00:27:26.820 want of economic

00:27:27.560 opportunity or youth clubs

00:27:29.420 as some people in this

00:27:30.880 country would suggest,

00:27:31.860 because since, I believe

00:27:33.520 it was the 2008 financial

00:27:34.880 crash to now, in the areas

00:27:37.380 where unemployment and

00:27:40.500 welfare dependency was

00:27:41.380 really high and there's

00:27:42.160 labour areas, it's only

00:27:43.360 gone up the native

00:27:44.380 population, but across

00:27:46.040 the country, 74% of all

00:27:48.340 jobs have gone to

00:27:49.280 immigrants.

00:27:50.380 So the country is just

00:27:52.140 giving money hand over

00:27:53.560 fist, whether for in

00:27:55.120 gainful employment,

00:27:56.380 whether below the average

00:27:57.840 wage and therefore a net

00:27:58.960 tax recipient, or in

00:28:00.440 high paid employment to

00:28:02.380 immigrants and also the

00:28:03.880 majority, near majority of

00:28:05.460 social housing, sorry,

00:28:06.880 about half in London goes

00:28:08.620 to immigrants, I think it's

00:28:09.180 48%, but in certain

00:28:11.380 populations, the majority

00:28:12.400 of them are on social

00:28:13.500 housing.

00:28:13.840 For example, 72% of

00:28:15.680 Somalians in Britain are

00:28:16.860 on social housing.

00:28:18.020 Why am I battery farming

00:28:19.280 Somalians?

00:28:20.160 And Somalians are actually

00:28:21.280 a really good case study

00:28:22.440 for this, because they're

00:28:23.120 among the population that

00:28:24.360 in other European countries

00:28:25.400 commit a lot more crime,

00:28:26.700 and even the second

00:28:27.360 generation migrants

00:28:28.260 repeat the criminal and

00:28:30.420 low economically productive

00:28:31.760 patterns of the first

00:28:33.360 generation.

00:28:33.820 So even if you're born on

00:28:35.040 the magic soil, it doesn't

00:28:35.860 automatically make you a

00:28:36.820 productive citizen.

00:28:37.400 But not every Somalian is

00:28:39.200 I am Hosea Ali.

00:28:40.600 Some Somalians are Ali

00:28:42.000 Harbi Ali, who in 2021

00:28:44.340 stabbed to death an MP in

00:28:46.700 his constituency, Sir

00:28:47.780 David Amos.

00:28:48.860 And I bring that up because

00:28:49.820 in the same week that this

00:28:51.140 revelation has been made

00:28:51.960 about Rudabakana, there was

00:28:53.320 an inquest into why Ali

00:28:55.300 Harbi Ali, the son of

00:28:56.700 Somalian diplomats as well,

00:28:58.320 so from the ruling class

00:28:59.400 in another country, he'd

00:29:00.460 expect well-educated and

00:29:01.500 the like, why he wasn't

00:29:02.620 spotted by Prevent.

00:29:03.580 It turns out in 2014, he was.

00:29:05.560 He was profiled by Prevent as

00:29:06.740 a potential Islamic extremist.

00:29:08.400 He had one or two meetings

00:29:10.280 with a Prevent officer and

00:29:12.200 just wasn't followed up on

00:29:13.240 and therefore just left to

00:29:14.840 stew in his own inadequacy

00:29:16.640 and resentment and privacy

00:29:17.720 of his bedroom, fall down

00:29:19.320 an Islamic radical rabbit

00:29:20.580 hole and profile certain

00:29:22.660 conservative MPs for their

00:29:23.780 foreign policy decisions.

00:29:25.120 And that's also one very

00:29:26.320 interesting final point.

00:29:27.340 We have had a couple of

00:29:28.320 decades now of both of our

00:29:29.900 countries engaging in failed

00:29:31.980 adventures overseas to make

00:29:33.320 the world safe for

00:29:34.020 democracy.

00:29:34.420 It turns out that you can't

00:29:36.360 bomb Iraq into reading

00:29:37.640 Strauss.

00:29:38.380 But what they then did was

00:29:39.700 this insane policy of

00:29:41.460 desolating those countries

00:29:42.940 with what little

00:29:43.880 infrastructure they had left

00:29:44.900 and then importing everyone

00:29:46.580 from those countries into our

00:29:47.960 borders, thinking that, again,

00:29:49.780 making contact with the soil

00:29:50.640 will make them as British as

00:29:51.700 you and me and they

00:29:52.420 wouldn't have any tribal,

00:29:54.340 ethnic or recent historical

00:29:56.160 baggage to bring to bear

00:29:57.800 against the population.

00:29:59.020 It's going to get even worse,

00:29:59.880 by the way, because the

00:30:00.560 Labour Party, according to their

00:30:02.060 now immigration minister, but

00:30:03.340 when he was shadow immigration

00:30:04.240 minister, floated the idea of

00:30:06.700 replicating the Ukrainian

00:30:08.160 refugee scheme, which let in

00:30:10.340 250,000 Ukrainians into the

00:30:12.340 UK, because we obviously

00:30:13.800 border that war zone, for the

00:30:15.980 Palestinians.

00:30:16.920 Now, if anyone's read their

00:30:18.000 history, as Norm Macdonald would

00:30:19.560 say, the Palestinians might not

00:30:21.180 be too hot in Britain for setting

00:30:22.440 up the state of Israel, and they

00:30:23.960 might not be too keen on us right

00:30:25.500 now because of what's going on.

00:30:27.540 So I think maybe importing

00:30:29.520 entire foreign diasporas that

00:30:30.860 would sooner see us dead than

00:30:32.820 live in peace might be a bad

00:30:35.420 idea, no matter how many

00:30:36.680 economic opportunities they are

00:30:38.120 given.

00:30:39.000 It seems like a foregone

00:30:39.940 conclusion, but perhaps we're the

00:30:41.080 only one sensible enough to know

00:30:42.300 that.

00:30:43.540 So I wonder, you know,

00:30:45.280 obviously in the United States,

00:30:46.680 we have the movement behind

00:30:48.080 Donald Trump, which I think

00:30:49.820 saved us a little bit from some

00:30:52.000 of what you guys are going

00:30:53.160 through.

00:30:53.460 But ultimately, it's still

00:30:55.440 dicey.

00:30:56.080 You know, we're obviously

00:30:57.100 we're coming up to the

00:30:58.120 election here.

00:30:59.060 A lot of people are feeling

00:31:00.420 better than they would have

00:31:01.500 otherwise due to just how

00:31:03.000 inadequate Kamala Harris is,

00:31:06.040 what an embarrassment she is,

00:31:07.400 how difficult it will be for

00:31:09.180 the media to kind of push her

00:31:10.300 across the finish line.

00:31:11.720 But I'm still relatively sure

00:31:13.940 we're going to see some some

00:31:15.400 outbursts from the left and

00:31:16.780 some attempts at shenanigans

00:31:18.300 from the left.

00:31:19.420 But in the UK, it feels like the

00:31:22.240 political situation is a

00:31:23.420 little more dire, at least in

00:31:25.440 the United States.

00:31:26.240 You have some level of

00:31:27.820 official pushback.

00:31:29.280 You have some actual living

00:31:31.380 movement inside the political

00:31:33.480 arena that is actually

00:31:36.280 opposing what's going on in the

00:31:38.600 UK.

00:31:39.060 Obviously, you guys had the no

00:31:40.500 seats attempt with the

00:31:41.940 conservatives and you have

00:31:43.300 Nigel Farage and his his party.

00:31:46.940 But it seems like they have

00:31:48.440 also gotten off to a bad

00:31:50.480 start.

00:31:51.000 That there has been some, you

00:31:53.280 know, hand wringing over, you

00:31:55.000 know, race and other issues and

00:31:56.700 those kind of things inside that

00:31:59.000 party almost immediately.

00:32:00.580 And they're just kind of get

00:32:01.680 back, trying to get back to the

00:32:02.800 center as fast as possible,

00:32:04.100 especially when it comes to even

00:32:05.600 immigration.

00:32:06.520 I mean, do you what do you think

00:32:08.060 is going to happen here with the

00:32:09.700 kind of the future of the UK

00:32:10.900 politics?

00:32:11.440 Because you have this constant

00:32:13.200 building pressure.

00:32:14.100 It's obviously very bad for people,

00:32:16.320 but ultimately they don't seem to

00:32:18.320 have any legitimate, legitimate

00:32:20.180 political outlet for them to go

00:32:22.520 ahead and express this.

00:32:23.900 And when they attempt to do so in

00:32:25.720 public without any kind of

00:32:27.560 political cover, they end up going

00:32:29.440 to jail.

00:32:30.780 Yeah, I sort of watch your politics

00:32:32.620 to cheer myself up, mate.

00:32:34.380 And if we do get Trump victory,

00:32:36.480 that's not good news, but sorry,

00:32:37.740 go ahead.

00:32:38.000 Well, if we if we see a Trump

00:32:40.500 victory as of next week or, you

00:32:42.020 know, next month when all the votes

00:32:43.420 are counted, God willing, then it

00:32:45.660 might create more maneuvering room

00:32:47.660 for our side of the aisle over here,

00:32:49.720 because a lot of what governs the

00:32:52.320 tacking back to the center, a.k.a.

00:32:55.200 the left in this country is just

00:32:56.780 sheer cowardice and engagement with

00:32:59.360 hostile media that you don't have to

00:33:01.860 talk to, but that leaders do because

00:33:03.960 they're boomers and therefore they

00:33:05.040 trust in institutions.

00:33:05.860 And again, hashtag not all boomers,

00:33:07.440 but if you've met these people,

00:33:09.820 they're at least spiritual, if not

00:33:11.320 actual boomers taking the parties

00:33:13.260 one by one.

00:33:14.160 This is why I was never a zero

00:33:15.120 seats guy.

00:33:15.660 And I was accused at the time by

00:33:17.380 those with, let's say, hearts of

00:33:22.000 fire, but not minds of ice as being

00:33:24.100 containment.

00:33:25.040 That is because the Conservative

00:33:26.260 Party is an institution with

00:33:27.580 hundreds of thousands of pounds

00:33:29.080 pumped into it every year that

00:33:30.400 people have a real sentimental

00:33:31.540 attachment to.

00:33:32.540 There are buildings which have

00:33:35.580 its various members

00:33:37.260 come and go as if they live there.

00:33:39.560 And so it will be a force in

00:33:40.900 politics for the foreseeable future,

00:33:42.540 whether or not we like it.

00:33:43.640 And given I was kicked out for

00:33:45.340 something as, well, you would

00:33:48.040 think would be Conservative policy,

00:33:49.260 which is opposing the transition of

00:33:50.600 children, I'm not too fond of the

00:33:52.320 Conservative Party myself.

00:33:53.860 But at the moment, there's a

00:33:55.000 Conservative leadership election.

00:33:56.180 The ballot has closed.

00:33:57.260 We get the results tomorrow.

00:33:58.660 And it will either be Robert Jenrick

00:34:00.960 or Kemi Badenoch.

00:34:02.120 Robert Jenrick has attempted to out

00:34:03.940 Farage Farage.

00:34:04.940 He's set his modus operandi as

00:34:06.380 retiring Farage.

00:34:07.680 He's promised to deport, quote,

00:34:09.120 all of the illegal immigrants in

00:34:10.620 Britain.

00:34:10.920 He wants to do so by punishing the

00:34:12.480 countries that refuse to take their

00:34:13.680 foreign nationals back with visa

00:34:15.480 sanctions and the withdrawal of

00:34:16.900 foreign aid, which is a play

00:34:19.240 straight from the Trump handbook.

00:34:21.840 For some reason, Nigel Farage has

00:34:24.200 been reluctant to do this because

00:34:25.500 in an interview with Stephen

00:34:26.860 Edgington for GB News, a friend of

00:34:28.580 mine, very good work over in the

00:34:29.840 States, he lives in DC now, Farage

00:34:32.060 decided to say that it wasn't even

00:34:33.820 his ambition to do mass deportations,

00:34:36.220 not only because the media wouldn't

00:34:37.820 drop it forever, but just because

00:34:40.340 he clearly didn't want to be called

00:34:41.980 racist.

00:34:42.480 And I spoke to someone who was high

00:34:44.100 up in reform at the time when this

00:34:46.020 has gone on, because reform has been

00:34:47.180 reshuffling its internal party at the

00:34:49.580 moment, and the interpretation by the

00:34:51.780 Farage camp was that Edgington, by

00:34:53.480 asking for the mass deportation of

00:34:55.160 the potentially 1.5 to 2 million

00:34:57.500 foreign criminals in this country,

00:34:59.800 he just wanted Farage to say we're

00:35:01.400 going to deport all black people.

00:35:03.040 Now, I know Stephen Edgington, that

00:35:05.280 wasn't his goal, but the

00:35:06.980 interpretation is immediately, whoa,

00:35:09.000 you want to enforce the law?

00:35:10.060 You must be a racist, because again,

00:35:12.060 the boomer mind.

00:35:13.220 So at the moment, the Conservative

00:35:14.580 Party has a candidate that might be

00:35:16.280 more conservative than Farage, even

00:35:17.800 just for show, which should put

00:35:19.560 the screws on reform to stop being so

00:35:21.640 complacent, and yet Jemrich isn't going

00:35:24.280 to win, because instead, Kenny

00:35:25.920 Badenock, who has all of the

00:35:27.720 conservative-leaning media in her camp,

00:35:29.880 for example, The Spectator, run by

00:35:31.400 former conservative mainstay and

00:35:33.720 agent of subversion Michael Gove,

00:35:36.460 and basically made her career, or

00:35:38.060 Elements of the Telegraph, where again,

00:35:39.920 boomers will fall over themselves,

00:35:41.360 comparing her to a black Maggie

00:35:43.000 Thatcher, even though she has a

00:35:45.000 chronically left-wing record and

00:35:46.580 actually lobbied for the removal of

00:35:48.780 caps on student visas into our

00:35:50.860 country, a Nigerian lobbying for

00:35:52.980 more Nigerian immigration, imagine

00:35:54.360 my shock, she's probably going to

00:35:55.880 win, and it's purely by

00:35:57.400 astroturfing her as the candidate

00:35:59.400 who can say based right-wing

00:36:01.500 things, which she never actually

00:36:02.600 says, and not be called racist

00:36:04.400 because she's black.

00:36:05.420 Bear in mind, we've had successive

00:36:07.380 Indian Home Secretaries and even an

00:36:09.080 Indian Prime Minister, all who got

00:36:10.900 called racist because they're always

00:36:12.140 going to call you racist, but the

00:36:13.480 boomers still think that she's going

00:36:14.780 to do the right thing. So, in

00:36:16.700 conclusion, reform are not what we

00:36:19.140 want them to be, yet, despite some

00:36:20.760 good people within the camp, because

00:36:22.260 it's a one-man show with Nigel

00:36:24.240 Farage, and his instincts are not up

00:36:27.420 to scratch in the political paradigm

00:36:28.920 that requires mass deportations and

00:36:30.840 the use of the internet to conduct

00:36:32.440 your messaging, and the Conservative

00:36:33.820 Party is going to be puppeteered

00:36:35.060 around by Kemi Badenoch, who ran in

00:36:38.680 2010 as a Nigerian for Nigerian

00:36:41.300 interests in the British Parliament.

00:36:42.480 So, that's how good right-wing politics

00:36:44.520 is going in my country. Please send

00:36:46.600 help.

00:36:47.900 Yeah, it's also very confusing, because

00:36:50.100 I remember seeing, like, Constantine

00:36:51.920 Kissin talking about how, oh, no, you

00:36:54.020 have to have this woman represent you.

00:36:56.120 That's the only thing anyone will

00:36:57.880 listen to. That's the only, and it's, I

00:36:59.940 just, so many of these radical

00:37:02.380 centrists seem to buy into this. Like, if

00:37:04.940 we can just get the right representative,

00:37:07.080 if they just, it will do the DEI,

00:37:09.020 right, we'll get the right DEI candidate,

00:37:11.160 and once they check all the diversity

00:37:13.040 boxes, then they can say the based

00:37:14.840 things that, you know, no native British

00:37:17.280 burdensome can say. We get the same

00:37:19.320 thing here in the United States all the

00:37:20.720 time. No, we have to have a Hispanic

00:37:22.280 candidate. We have to have a black

00:37:23.200 candidate. They're the only ones that can

00:37:24.540 actually notice any of the problems

00:37:26.020 that are affecting, you know, the

00:37:27.300 majority of the population. But this

00:37:29.820 never works out, as you point out, that

00:37:31.540 the people who get elevated, maybe

00:37:33.420 they'll make a head fake in one way or

00:37:35.420 another, but it, you know, it never

00:37:36.960 quite ends up working the way that they

00:37:39.220 hope it will. And it's kind of

00:37:41.140 unconscionable that people think that

00:37:43.460 you should have to have, you know,

00:37:45.420 these minority bona fides before you

00:37:48.180 can even voice these opinions or

00:37:49.760 concerns.

00:37:51.180 Yeah, so I spoke to Constance in about

00:37:52.420 this, and he is not a fan of

00:37:54.200 Kemi-Badenaut, but he is a fan of the

00:37:55.840 likes of Suella-Braveman. So even

00:37:57.640 though it wasn't an explicit endorsement

00:37:58.940 of that candidate, he does still hold

00:38:01.640 true to the fact that in the current

00:38:02.940 paradigm, the only way you're going to

00:38:04.620 get conservative immigration policy off

00:38:07.080 the ground is if a minority, particularly

00:38:09.720 woman, advances it. Just, you've got to

00:38:12.000 work within the hand you're given. But

00:38:13.420 singing from the left's hymn sheet has

00:38:14.800 never won any victories. And this is my

00:38:18.340 frustration with the term that I know

00:38:20.440 you've been slapped with, woke right. I

00:38:22.700 did a piece earlier this week that

00:38:24.560 Constance had read and took issue with,

00:38:26.420 but other people seem to enjoy it. And it

00:38:28.600 seems that woke right to me, if it's not

00:38:30.880 James Lindsay accusing you of waging a

00:38:34.060 theosophist plot to summon a Zoroastrian

00:38:36.680 demon on behalf of the UN using social

00:38:38.740 emotional learning and that new anime

00:38:40.440 girl that the Vatican has put out, then

00:38:44.900 it seems to mean instead straying off the

00:38:48.020 liberal reservation where national

00:38:49.900 identity is just purely derivative of a

00:38:53.900 conversation in the marketplace of ideas. As

00:38:57.180 we've seen, whether we like it or not, the

00:39:00.900 self-conception of ethnicity has a bearing

00:39:04.460 on whether or not someone else is going

00:39:06.700 to buy into your culture and your story. And

00:39:09.960 we know this, for example, in the case of

00:39:11.360 Kimi Badenoch, who again in 2010

00:39:13.460 campaigned as a Nigerian, and all of her

00:39:16.880 strongest opponents on the political

00:39:18.700 left, like Trevor Phillips, who worked for the

00:39:20.700 Blair government in the Equality and Human

00:39:22.340 Rights Commission, or Sunda Katwala, who has

00:39:24.840 become a commentator after leaving the Fabian

00:39:29.140 Society, so thank you for the concern

00:39:31.860 trolling, subversive socialist, they turn

00:39:34.920 around and say, actually, her race, her

00:39:36.760 ethnicity, her migrant heritage is her

00:39:38.800 strongest asset. Trevor Phillips, by the

00:39:40.480 way, said, I nearly couldn't vote for her

00:39:42.660 because she's a Nigerian, and as someone of

00:39:45.520 Jamaican heritage, we were told they

00:39:46.920 enslaved our ancestors. And it's like, right,

00:39:48.580 so you're all really well assimilated if

00:39:50.120 you're playing out this tribal ethnic

00:39:51.520 conflict in my country. You know, so the

00:39:54.360 idea that the woke right is comprised of

00:39:57.380 people, one, who are just contrarians, okay,

00:40:00.080 that's not the monopoly of the woke nor

00:40:02.180 the right, two, that they're just

00:40:04.940 Christians, I mean, okay, thank you for

00:40:07.100 your mask off moment, Mr. Lindsay, but

00:40:08.520 thirdly, that they're people that realize

00:40:10.860 that things are not just purely ideas, and

00:40:12.660 that ethnicity, unfortunately, broken or not,

00:40:15.400 has a factor on whether or not people

00:40:17.020 hold certain ideas, and I think that's

00:40:19.820 just sensible, and especially if you're

00:40:21.840 in the defensive posture of foreign

00:40:24.160 ethnicity and foreign religions coming

00:40:26.020 in, collectivizing your identity, and

00:40:28.060 codifying in law the right to

00:40:30.060 discriminate against Christians, whites,

00:40:32.100 heterosexuals, and men, to then say, well,

00:40:35.460 actually having a consciousness of myself

00:40:37.340 as an Englishman, having a consciousness

00:40:39.880 of myself as Christian, to fight back on

00:40:42.880 those terms, rather than just saying, well,

00:40:45.020 we've got to have entirely neutral liberal

00:40:46.900 institutions, because that's what worked so

00:40:48.280 well so far, actually, that just seems like

00:40:50.600 a perfectly sensible policy, and as well,

00:40:53.780 the term woke doesn't apply, because woke

00:40:55.460 means gay race communism, let's not mix up

00:40:57.680 our terms, gents.

00:40:59.380 Yeah, I mean, obviously, it's just a slur,

00:41:01.840 there's, there's, there's, that's, I did

00:41:03.840 one episode on it when it first came out,

00:41:05.960 well, before, you know, I was branded as an

00:41:07.880 angel summoner, working for the United

00:41:10.200 Nations, you know, I had done a, because I,

00:41:13.020 you know, I'm saying a lot of what you just

00:41:14.520 said, you know, laying out, you know, what,

00:41:16.020 what the actual problem is here, but it's

00:41:17.820 always great to have people who are like, I

00:41:19.700 can't believe they believe in friend-enemy

00:41:21.320 distinction, if you believe in the friend-enemy

00:41:23.420 distinction, you're probably a Nazi or a

00:41:24.900 communist, you know, like, that's the, you

00:41:26.360 know, amazing thing that they're constantly

00:41:29.560 bringing up, but yeah, the, the idea, people

00:41:31.780 who are watching these institutions, both in

00:41:34.960 both of our countries, you know, make these

00:41:36.860 incredibly brutal and, you know, biased

00:41:40.140 determinations entirely on identity, and they're

00:41:44.000 turning around and saying, oh no, actually

00:41:45.440 this is going to work out, like, we'll, we'll

00:41:47.480 just return to a neutrality that never

00:41:49.640 existed, you're going to run into this

00:41:51.860 almost eternally, but there's, there's no

00:41:53.860 reason to, to beat that point to death, I

00:41:56.160 think we've probably both set our piece on

00:41:58.700 that, it's one of those things where the, the

00:42:00.080 more oxygen you give it, the, the longer you

00:42:02.920 belabor its existence, even though it will

00:42:05.160 die naturally on its own, I think. So I wanted

00:42:07.720 to pivot to the election coming into the

00:42:11.420 United States. Obviously you guys over at the

00:42:13.520 Lotus Eaters are going to be covering it. As

00:42:15.780 you point out it, for better or for worse, the

00:42:18.380 American election has a high degree of impact

00:42:21.300 on many other states inside, or, you know, inside

00:42:25.140 kind of the global American empire. And so it's

00:42:28.520 one of those things that everyone has to pay

00:42:30.060 attention to, even if that, that's probably not

00:42:32.980 the healthiest behavior ultimately for any given

00:42:35.860 nation. But one thing that has been really

00:42:38.860 shifting here in the last couple of days before

00:42:40.760 the election has been the attempt to, you know,

00:42:42.920 give the whole, the whole Hitler Nazi fascism, you

00:42:45.700 know, Donald Trump is absolutely unhinged. This

00:42:48.340 has kind of been the, the, the talking point here

00:42:51.100 at the end, they're desperately hoping to push, you

00:42:53.740 know, one of these lies across the finish line to

00:42:57.500 kind of confuse people before we enter into the final

00:43:01.780 voting period. I wanted to play two things because

00:43:04.960 they're kind of related here. Uh, the, uh, the

00:43:08.920 neoconservatives have been the bane of, uh, you

00:43:12.600 know, the right in America for a long time and the

00:43:15.400 bane of the globe, uh, unfortunately they're

00:43:17.400 because of that. Uh, and a very interesting, uh,

00:43:20.720 transformation has happened, uh, after Donald Trump

00:43:24.160 entered the scenario. Many of the neocons, uh,

00:43:27.560 famously have fled to the left guys like Bill

00:43:29.920 Crystal and others have moved over there. One of the,

00:43:33.060 uh, institutions that's been created, uh, to do

00:43:36.300 this is called the bulwark. It's a, uh, press

00:43:39.340 outlet. That's pretty much dedicated to being

00:43:41.900 anti-Trump, uh, from the quote unquote, right. Uh,

00:43:45.260 you know, over there. Uh, and, uh, they, they

00:43:47.740 recently revealed something very interesting about

00:43:50.260 their mentality here. I'm just going to play this

00:43:52.220 clip. Uh, this is a segment of their longer

00:43:54.660 podcast, uh, with, uh, three of the members of the

00:43:57.460 bulwark here talking as correct. Um, but here was

00:44:00.520 the thing about the cheering that I loved, uh, speaking

00:44:03.120 of Stonewall, but also I think it's amazing when

00:44:06.140 you get 75,000 presumably libs on the ellipse and

00:44:10.720 she's like, we're going to have the most lethal

00:44:13.080 fighting force. And people are like, yeah. And

00:44:16.260 she's like, and we're going to secure the border. And

00:44:19.060 people are like, yeah. And I was just like, this

00:44:22.440 is, and just, you know, we are gonna, we are going

00:44:24.900 to be leaders in the world and we're not going to

00:44:27.180 let these guys put this just around. And I was

00:44:28.500 like, man, man, the world's really changed.

00:44:31.580 Did the neocons just take over the democratic party?

00:44:35.320 Don't say that.

00:44:36.840 Yeah. Don't say it.

00:44:39.080 So they kind of let the, uh, the cat out of the

00:44:41.120 bag a little bit. Uh, you know, don't, don't, uh,

00:44:44.280 don't point out the plan that has been going on for

00:44:46.980 a while here, which is that we need to transfer the

00:44:49.900 neocon establishment agenda over to the left. Now

00:44:54.020 that the Republican party, uh, you know, it isn't

00:44:57.060 entirely against it, but there's enough pushback enough

00:44:59.460 recognition. Uh, we're, you know, we're, we're, we're

00:45:02.880 not supposed to say that aloud. Don't make the mistake

00:45:04.820 of, of acknowledging it, but ultimately that really is

00:45:07.560 the plan. Kamala Harris really is the candidate, uh,

00:45:10.260 that's designed to move a large number of neocon

00:45:12.600 policies over to the left.

00:45:14.700 Yeah. I really wanted to deploy the astronaut meme

00:45:18.000 holding a gun to the other guy's head for a moment.

00:45:19.860 That always has been. I mean, the reason is I was

00:45:22.540 talking actually about our mutual friend, my

00:45:24.600 colleague, um, Harry about something similar earlier.

00:45:27.740 And that is the, the neocons and the neolibs are

00:45:31.180 only split by their willingness to use force. And

00:45:33.860 this was pretty revealed in the early two thousands

00:45:36.820 when Blair and Bush, ostensibly of completely

00:45:40.640 different ideologies and parties, both were gung

00:45:43.220 ho about invading Iraq, searching for, um, WMDs

00:45:47.140 that didn't really exist, but there you go. And I

00:45:49.800 think that's because the likes of Strauss that the

00:45:52.600 patron saint of the neocons read Schmidt and was

00:45:55.480 like, I agree. Liberalism is not a neutral, uh,

00:45:58.740 conception of the good instead. It's a comprehensive

00:46:00.520 conception of the good. And so we should enforce it at

00:46:02.240 the point of a gun or, um, you know, Lockheed Martin

00:46:06.280 missile, if you prefer. And so what they've done here

00:46:09.960 is as they've ratcheted up their rhetoric to be

00:46:12.600 existential, um, regarding Donald Trump, they've

00:46:14.920 constantly put him in the firing line or crosshairs.

00:46:16.920 As Biden said, they've called him Hitler, making him

00:46:19.280 the avatar of evil in the mind of the post-war paradigm.

00:46:23.460 Um, they are outsourcing their willingness to use force

00:46:26.800 to the most febrile, deranged minds that they know are

00:46:30.140 in their base. But undergirding that is the willingness

00:46:34.080 to use force to achieve their agenda. They've been very

00:46:37.480 comfortable with this, for example, in 2020, allowing the

00:46:39.800 anarcho tyranny of the BLM riots to go completely unchecked.

00:46:42.840 And so this Venn diagram of the neolibs and the neocons

00:46:46.420 interests is slowly becoming a circle, especially because

00:46:50.040 Donald Trump is pushing them together by saying, well, all

00:46:53.020 of these deeply enmeshed Russian nesting dole, uh,

00:46:57.960 lobbying interests that seem to populate Washington, whether

00:47:00.800 it's, um, pharmaceutical manufacturers or, or military

00:47:05.600 industrial complex lobbyists, or the people that cross the

00:47:08.760 aisle and fist bump one another when they're meant to be not

00:47:11.460 voting on the same thing. They're all in the same club and

00:47:13.940 I'm not in it. And so that makes the club shore up its

00:47:17.240 defenses, ossify and go on the offensive. And so if, if Trump

00:47:22.060 has absolutely no other virtues, and I think frankly, he, he

00:47:25.260 does on policy and the like, and meme worthiness, his chief

00:47:29.500 virtue among them is he identified the existential enemy on

00:47:32.960 our behalf and allowed us to let loose with critique and, uh,

00:47:37.860 policy suggestions. And hopefully if he makes some prudent

00:47:40.260 staffing, some actual trimming of the fat in, in the coming and

00:47:44.260 next administration.

00:47:46.040 Yeah. I know a lot of people are ultimately worried that

00:47:48.640 Trump will be talked into war with like Iran because of his

00:47:53.340 support for Israel. And I understand that concern, but

00:47:57.260 ultimately I think that's just false. Again, there's a reason

00:48:00.200 that all the neoconservatives have fled, you know, to, to the

00:48:03.860 left, they're opposing Trump. They, they, they know that

00:48:06.680 ultimately, whether he might be influenced one way or another at

00:48:11.420 times by advisors, he's not the candidate of global war. He is

00:48:16.180 not the candidate that is seeking to constantly impose the

00:48:19.680 empire globally. He wants a piece through strength, obviously,

00:48:23.500 uh, you know, that's going to be necessary and you do need better

00:48:26.360 advisors. The fact that he was more or less lied to by, well,

00:48:30.800 it's not more or less, he was directly lied to by his generals when

00:48:34.440 it came, you know, last time during the, uh, uh, during his

00:48:37.800 presidency, I hope we'll make him more careful when it comes to

00:48:41.260 military, military adventurism and the type of advice he's

00:48:44.720 receiving from, uh, those appointees. But ultimately the, the

00:48:48.780 point is that the people who are seeking this constant conflict are

00:48:53.980 against Trump for a reason. He's not perfect. He has many, many

00:48:57.140 problems to be sure. But I think the fact that, that people like

00:49:00.780 these are, you know, looking to infiltrate the democratic party and

00:49:03.620 deploy them for their needs, uh, and have seen, you know, the, the

00:49:07.260 need to abandon the Republican party is probably a good sign though.

00:49:10.280 That does mean that the Republican party is anywhere near, uh, you

00:49:14.580 know, something great. Speaking of terrible people who have more

00:49:17.280 or less abandoned the Republican party, uh, Liz Cheney has been

00:49:20.960 trying to play this now, you know, obviously there are neocon

00:49:24.320 dovetails here. Uh, but the, the Democrats have been kind of bragging

00:49:28.180 that Liz and now, you know, Dick Cheney have been, uh, on their side,

00:49:31.980 which really should take a moment. Like you should be staring into

00:49:34.800 the mirror. If you've gotten to the point where you are championing,

00:49:38.380 uh, Dick and Liz Cheney as some kind of, uh, moral forces that

00:49:44.180 should really show what standing up to tyranny looks like. If that's

00:49:48.240 really where you're at in your life, you should probably think

00:49:51.160 twice about what got you there. Uh, but you know, we're in this

00:49:54.580 desperation mode right before, uh, voting. Like I said, the left is

00:49:58.540 really looking to turn anything into a story. Uh, and so, uh, Aaron

00:50:03.180 Rupar, who's usually just a guy who collects Trump's greatest hits,

00:50:06.700 like you've, you'd think he's working for the Trump campaign half

00:50:09.580 the time because he's just cutting the best clips of Trump you can

00:50:12.300 imagine. Uh, but he's always lying when he does the headlines. And

00:50:15.360 here, uh, he says, uh, that, uh, Trump suggested we should line

00:50:20.460 Liz Cheney up in front of a firing squad, right? Like this is, this is

00:50:24.160 what they're running in. And this is what all the Lib outlets are

00:50:26.900 going with. They are shamelessly pushing this. It's not just, uh,

00:50:30.300 people on Twitter. Uh, you know, there, there are plenty of left

00:50:33.600 wing outlets that are just completely printing the story as

00:50:36.940 if Donald Trump said, yeah, I'm going to just put Liz Cheney

00:50:40.240 in front of a firing squad for opposing me, but let's play the

00:50:44.140 actual clip of Donald Trump talking to Tucker. And this is just

00:50:47.860 what he actually said. There's much more around this. There's more

00:50:50.700 context, but even from what he said, you can tell that they're

00:50:53.540 lying.

00:50:53.900 And I don't blame him for sticking with his daughter, but

00:50:57.320 his daughter is a very dumb individual. Very dumb. She's a

00:51:02.660 radical war hawk. Let's put her with a rifle standing there with

00:51:06.860 nine barrel shooting at her. Okay. Let's see how she feels

00:51:09.800 about it. You know, when the guns are trained in her face.

00:51:13.860 So very obviously here, Trump is just giving the most basic, uh,

00:51:19.440 retort to war hawks thing. You know, the kind of criticism that

00:51:22.540 pretty much anyone has who's ever pointed out the problems here

00:51:25.880 has said, he's just saying, you would never put yourself in

00:51:29.080 harm's way. You would never fight these battles. I bet if you

00:51:32.180 had to fight these battles and it wasn't just you sending other

00:51:34.800 people's kids, uh, into war that you would never do that. And

00:51:38.960 instead she says, Oh, well, this man is trying to, uh, to have

00:51:43.240 me killed, to have me assassinated, even though obviously Donald Trump

00:51:46.440 was literally shot by, uh, by, uh, you know, wild leftists. Uh,

00:51:50.580 they're saying that this is Donald Trump calling for violence

00:51:52.820 against her and people are buying into it. I was sitting, I was

00:51:55.400 getting a haircut, uh, before we did this show as literally just

00:51:58.620 sitting there. And one of the guys in, you know, in the, uh,

00:52:01.060 barbershop is spouting this as if it's real and saying, Oh, well,

00:52:04.440 this changed his wife vote at the last minute. So it's, it's, it's

00:52:07.980 working like they're, they're trying to lay this out here before the

00:52:10.780 truth can actually catch up with this just bald face lie.

00:52:13.780 Yeah. Lots of the attacks haven't been sticking recently. I

00:52:16.880 mean, there was the bogus, he wants generals like Hitler claim

00:52:19.780 someone should tell them about operation Valkyrie, for example,

00:52:22.760 if they think that's a good idea. But I watched this this

00:52:25.720 morning, he was obviously saying, well, how would you like it

00:52:29.200 argument? And he makes a valid point in the one thing that

00:52:32.880 should be restraining action on the stage, uh, on the global

00:52:37.200 stage is one's fealty to one's own citizens, which is not

00:52:41.060 considering their lives as disposable or at least less valuable than

00:52:47.240 what you could pocket from defense contractors and a nice cushy

00:52:50.480 job. Once you leave Congress, but that's what, uh, Nikki Haley

00:52:53.480 did right. Went straight on the board of Boeing or something like

00:52:55.860 that. So what Trump is saying here is taking a cautionary

00:52:59.300 principle, which is, um, I value my countrymen more than the

00:53:04.740 repeated foreign adventurism, which hasn't worked. And there's only

00:53:07.980 lined the pockets of politicians like Joe Biden and his brother,

00:53:10.300 according to Politico, um, in recent years. So I will show similar

00:53:14.500 restraint where the likes of Liz and Dick Cheney have not. Um, I'm

00:53:19.040 going to invert something that Michael Gove aforementioned, uh,

00:53:23.800 conservative party fixture, now editor of the spectator said

00:53:26.960 recently, Michael Gove, again, meant to be one of the chief

00:53:30.600 conservatives in this country has endorsed Kamala Harris after

00:53:34.260 taking over the spectator. And he said, his reason was, um, if

00:53:37.880 Dick Cheney gives me some advice, I take it. Well, I would like to say,

00:53:41.240 um, if Liz Cheney gives anyone advice, given how unpopular she was

00:53:45.260 when running to, uh, get reelected for Congress, I think run the

00:53:49.800 complete opposite direction.

00:53:53.180 All right, guys. Well, I think we're going to move over to the

00:53:56.240 questions of the people if we have any, but before we do, Connor,

00:53:59.480 where should people be checking out your excellent work?

00:54:02.520 Oh, thank you very much, Oron. Um, I host Tomlinson Talks over at

00:54:05.240 lotusseaters.com at 3 p.m. UK time on Wednesdays. I'm also at the

00:54:10.380 New Culture Forum where I do interviews for a show called

00:54:12.920 Deprogrammed. I write for a bunch of places like European

00:54:15.580 Conservative and Courage Media, and I tweet thoughts and random

00:54:21.320 news stories over at, uh, at con underscore Tomlinson on X.

00:54:25.420 Excellent, guys. Make sure that you are, of course, checking out

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00:55:04.560 well. Thank you everybody for watching. And as always, I will

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