The Auron MacIntyre Show - The ADL Bends the Knee ｜ Guest： Ronald Dodson

00:00:00.880 Hey, everybody. How's it going? Thanks for joining me this afternoon. I've got a great

00:00:04.240 stream with a great guest that I think you're really going to enjoy. We've got a couple

00:00:08.040 big stories. The ADL has taken down its glossary of extremism after getting absolutely mogged

00:00:14.080 by several major conservative influencers, a guy named Perry Alpha, and of course, Elon

00:00:19.900 Musk. We'll also be talking about Keir Starmer declaring war on the English. Surprise, surprise.

00:00:25.760 And finally, we're going to get to the government shutdown. Is this actually bad for the Trump

00:00:30.840 administration or could this be a secret advantage? Joining me today to discuss this is a writer for

00:00:36.740 the American mind and American reformer. He also happens to be a financial whiz who will be walking

00:00:42.320 us through the government shutdown. Ron Dotson, thanks for coming on, man. I'm glad to be here,

00:00:47.280 Oren. Absolutely. Well, we're going to jump into all these topics, but before we do, let's hear

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00:01:49.900 All right, so let's get started with our opening topic. The ADL has received a lot of fire recently

00:01:56.960 for the fact that it had listed the Turning Point USA as a dangerous organization, an organization

00:02:02.560 that was threatening in some way Jewish people by platforming people like Tucker Carlson and others

00:02:08.040 with which the ADL disagreed. Obviously, this is a huge controversy after the death of Charlie

00:02:14.220 Kirk. We know that organizations like Antifa are absent from the ADL's hate database because

00:02:21.020 ultimately they are just leftists carrying water for the left. They have no interest in protecting

00:02:25.540 America, the American people, or even Jewish people in general, honestly. Ultimately, their

00:02:30.160 goal is to dismantle the United States. The ADL has been a scourge on the U.S. and has just

00:02:36.400 been an absolute disaster for free speech and everything else that I think ultimately our nation

00:02:41.780 stands for. We're going to take a look here quickly at the message that they put out on

00:02:48.400 this retraction here.

00:02:51.540 So the ADL says, with over a thousand entries written over many years, the ADL glossary of

00:02:57.280 extremism has served as a source of high-level information on a wide range of topics for years.

00:03:02.740 Now, Ron, I don't know if you knew this, but this high level of information also included

00:03:07.660 random numbers, like basically every number between 1 and 247, the OK hand symbol, look

00:03:13.720 at me, Mom, I'm doing anti-Semitism, and milk. So just an incredible source of high-level

00:03:20.780 information that's been coming out of the ADL. I don't know how we're going to go on without

00:03:24.260 it.

00:03:25.700 Yeah, it's incredible. Even my daughter played some college soccer and her number was listed

00:03:31.900 as a hate number somehow.

00:03:34.320 Ah, yes. Yeah, yeah. The college athletes sending these dog whistles through their different jersey

00:03:40.280 numbers. If you have the ability to turn your mic up a little bit, too, you're a little low

00:03:44.620 there. But it also says, at the same time, an increasing number of entries in the glossary

00:03:50.400 were outdated. We also saw a number of entries intentionally misrepresented and misused. By that,

00:03:56.520 they mean accurately seen and therefore described as being ridiculous. Moreover, our experts have

00:04:01.700 continued to develop more comprehensive resources and innovative ways to provide information about

00:04:07.240 anti-Semitism and extremist hate. At the ADL, we are always looking for how we can and should do

00:04:12.720 things better. That's why we're moving to retire the glossary effectively immediately. This will allow

00:04:18.800 the ADL to explore new strategies and create new approaches to deliver our data and present our research

00:04:24.500 more effectively. So this is like, you know, the anti-apology, right? Like, we did everything right.

00:04:32.420 But obviously, you chuds out there, you fools, you idiots, you know, you took all this data, this beautiful

00:04:38.260 data that we accumulated, and you twisted it. And so now we have to, we have to trash this whole thing and start

00:04:43.360 again, because you don't understand the complex operation that we're running over here at the ADL.

00:04:48.920 Well, now, Ron, I think all of us recognize that the ADL has basically just been a hate group for

00:04:54.740 years. It intimidates all kinds of government organizations, social media platforms. But we

00:05:00.580 should also remember, these guys are responsible for training the FBI as well. The FBI has used them

00:05:06.380 as someone to inform their officers on what to think and how to think about hate crimes and

00:05:11.800 anti-Semitism. Pretty great to see these guys eventually have to walk away from at least posting

00:05:16.380 this stuff, right? I couldn't believe it when I saw, I was unaware, sadly, until this morning. I saw

00:05:24.360 on, I can't remember who posted, maybe Cernovich, that this was part of the FBI's training materials.

00:05:32.640 And that one really got me. I was, I shouldn't have been shocked, but I was.

00:05:39.460 Yeah, it's one of those scenarios where people just go on autopilot, right? Like you look at these

00:05:44.020 different organizations and you think, well, we don't want people to hate Jewish people. Of course,

00:05:47.700 we can invite the ADL in. I'm sure at some level, you know, we'll be interacting with someone who's,

00:05:52.980 you know, got some, some anti-Jewish hate group or something. And so we should have this. What you

00:05:57.620 don't recognize is that actually these organizations are far more insidious. They have a agenda that is,

00:06:04.040 goes far deeper ultimately than just some idea that we're avoiding anti-Semitism. You can see this by

00:06:09.100 all the people and numbers and, and terms that they have demonized. They've demonized America first

00:06:15.640 as a term saying, this is a term of hate. They've said that Christian nationalism or Christ is King.

00:06:21.640 These are catchphrases. Basically, they've just said all of Christianity is like anti-Semitic by its

00:06:26.520 very existence. So these, this isn't so much a group that's interested in avoiding some kind of

00:06:32.000 hatred of Jewish people. They're ultimately about hating Christians and hating, hating America in

00:06:36.760 general, honestly, it would seem. It, that, and that's the real issue. I honestly would have less

00:06:41.820 problem if they wanted to fund, uh, you know, if there were actual terrorist acts against certain

00:06:48.620 groups, uh, you know, and making sure those get prosecuted as we, as Christians, as we would all be

00:06:55.240 for, you know, we don't, we don't, uh, want, uh, targeted violence, um, in, in, at least in that

00:07:02.440 normal sense, uh, against anyone, but no, this is, uh, this is pure, this is purely anti-Christian

00:07:09.860 for the most part propaganda. And, uh, it's unfortunate because I think there's probably,

00:07:15.720 uh, uh, there's probably some for whom this makes life more difficult than making it. It's contra to

00:07:23.700 their stated purposes, but I don't think their stated purpose. I don't think their actual purpose

00:07:28.440 is, is making life for American Jews better. I think it is, uh, it is a political, uh, it is much

00:07:36.460 more dark and, uh, and revolutionarily political, uh, just, just by studying what they're doing. This

00:07:44.460 is a, this is an anti, it's, it's very much related to what's going on in the UK. I think it's an anti,

00:07:51.180 uh, uh, American heritage, uh, which an American heritage is, is primarily a, a Trinitarian pluralism

00:08:01.620 that has great, uh, compassion, uh, to allow other folks to participate in that, but it's bedrock is a

00:08:09.800 Protestant Trinitarian pluralism. And, and that's really what's on the, uh, that's, what's really in

00:08:16.080 the crosshairs here. No, I agree entirely. And, you know, I was just on the Matt Gaetz show yesterday

00:08:22.800 and I made a very similar case. I said, look, the purpose of a system is what it does, right? If the

00:08:27.680 ADL is stated purpose is to reduce antisemitism, but what it actually does is increase antisemitism

00:08:34.840 by seeing, being so hateful and so bigoted and, uh, so destructive to Christianity, to European

00:08:41.960 civilization. So hostile to the idea of American identity or Christianity as part of American

00:08:46.800 identity, uh, when it, when it attacks people for wanting to put this country before other countries

00:08:51.900 that the ADL might be more fond of ultimately, then the purpose of the ADL is not to reduce

00:08:57.540 antisemitism. The purpose of the ADL is to attack Americans, attack Christians, attack European

00:09:02.720 heritage, right? Like that's, that's the purpose of the system is what it does. And so I think, uh,

00:09:08.040 you know, the fact that Elon Musk was saying this loud on, on Twitter, and again, shout out to Perry

00:09:13.860 Alpha for getting, uh, that Elon, uh, to focus on this and bring the level of attention that he did.

00:09:18.980 Uh, now, obviously the ADL isn't going anywhere. Uh, as they say here that this glossary just became

00:09:25.280 so absurd, just having that database out there was so absurd that it made them look idiotic. And so it

00:09:31.280 was better for them to just take it down than it was to leave it up there and make themselves an

00:09:35.560 obvious object of ridicule and disgust. They are planning to continue their mission. They're

00:09:41.000 going to be doing the same thing tomorrow that they were doing today. They don't, they just don't

00:09:45.240 have this like hit list sitting out there, I guess, to accuse all these people of antisemitism at the

00:09:50.240 end of the day. Yeah. And it's, again, it's unfortunate because, uh, there are, uh, very pro-Western,

00:09:57.780 pro-Western civilization and make no mistake, America, North America, uh, United States is the last

00:10:05.320 bastion and champion of, of true Western civilization. And I've argued, I argued, you know,

00:10:12.540 I write for Claremont, which is, uh, uh, you know, has a, a, a lot of, uh, uh, uh, Jewish fellows

00:10:18.520 and who I get along with and, and intellectually respect and, and have argued that, that if Israel

00:10:25.300 as a, as a nation state and, and, and Jews as a, a, as a people, what's in their best interest

00:10:32.820 long-term is full partnership and integration into Western civilization. And, uh, this is

00:10:40.160 just anti that. And that's sad because, uh, I, I don't think it's ultimately good for these,

00:10:45.720 uh, uh, for the Jewish people. And it's certainly not good for champions of Western civilization.

00:10:52.140 Um, but, you know, uh, it, uh, my, my goal would be that we would have equitable enforcement

00:11:02.300 of FARA, of the, uh, Foreign Agents Registration Act and, and the ADL and, and units like it, uh,

00:11:09.200 you know, uh, most Jewish entities don't have to, uh, register under FARA as, uh, and it's,

00:11:17.960 it's very unequal in its enforcement. And that's unfortunate because if they just registered,

00:11:23.360 uh, under FARA, we could, we could deal with things in a much more transparent

00:11:27.840 and, uh, equitable manner.

00:11:31.080 No, I'm, I'm with you a hundred percent. APAC and ADL should simply be registered as,

00:11:36.940 you know, agents of a foreign, uh, government, and then we can deal with them in the same way

00:11:41.280 we deal with other agents of foreign governments. There are plenty of them out there. Some of them

00:11:45.180 we're friendly to, some of them we're not, but the important thing is the consistency and the

00:11:49.920 clarity, as you were saying, once we know what we're dealing with, then it's much easier to deal

00:11:54.700 with them fairly and equitably, uh, rather than playing the shell game of like, well, because some

00:12:00.500 of the people are, are in America or American citizens, therefore it's like, this wouldn't work

00:12:05.140 with any other country, right? If, if Qatar sends a bunch of people here to do deals or Russia sends a

00:12:10.560 bunch of people to do here to do deals that have American citizenship, but are working

00:12:14.940 constantly on behalf of those two countries, everyone would see right through that. And by

00:12:19.360 the way, for any organizations that exist for any other nation, uh, along with Israel that have the

00:12:24.860 same structure, by all means, they should be registered as well. I want all of these foreign

00:12:28.800 actors registered. I just don't want an unmarked foreign influence of any country in the United

00:12:34.840 States. Uh, but the ADL and, uh, APAC are obviously the ones that get highlighted so often,

00:12:40.040 because as you say, they seem to get a carve out where many would not.

00:12:44.460 That's right. And it's interesting. There's only one, uh, that's the biggest carve out. Uh,

00:12:50.140 interestingly enough, uh, uh, there's, there's a, a lesser use, but similar carve out for some of the,

00:12:57.980 uh, uh, uh, UK groups, which I know we're getting to. And isn't it interesting that, uh, that we have

00:13:06.220 some of the things going on in the UK that we do. I mean, this is, this is just a neoliberal,

00:13:11.580 um, multicultural, uh, ultimately that's, what's going on here is a flattening out of everything

00:13:19.500 else. So that certain interest groups have outsized influence, because if you, if you remove the, um,

00:13:27.700 the America first, and that's such a slogan, but it's, but, but it's true. If you move the,

00:13:32.360 remove the, the specific America first, uh, identification of our interests and, and make

00:13:39.800 everything very flat and equal, then, uh, then other interest groups have an outsized influence.

00:13:45.960 And that's what, that's the game that's being played here.

00:13:49.420 I agree. And again, I'm just going to keep beating this horse, uh, you know, because I think it's just

00:13:54.420 the ultimate guiding star of where we should be at, you know, George Washington, making it clear,

00:13:58.920 we shouldn't have favored nations and we shouldn't have hated nations. And when we make a nation,

00:14:03.740 our favored nation, we ultimately will introduce foreign interests and foreign interests are the

00:14:08.680 death of a Republic. Those are George Washington words, you know, and I think that's just where we

00:14:13.600 should remember ourselves to be at all times. You know, this is, this is our first president,

00:14:18.140 one of our most crucial founding fathers laid out exactly why we shouldn't be in the relationships

00:14:23.080 we are in right now. And that's, that's going to be my bedrock explanation as to where we should be

00:14:27.940 going. Holy agreed. All right. Let's hear from Keir Starmer. The labor government had their, uh,

00:14:35.580 had their convention yesterday. Uh, and he said a, a number of wild things, but this is the one

00:14:41.160 that's really been making the rounds here. And conference, if you say or imply that people cannot

00:14:52.180 be English or British because of the color of their skin, that mixed heritage families owe you an

00:14:58.620 explanation, the people who've lived here for generations, raised their children here,

00:15:04.400 built their lives here, working in our schools, our hospitals, running businesses,

00:15:08.440 our neighbors. If you say they should now be deported, then mark my words,

00:15:13.600 we will fight you with everything we have because you are the enemy of national renewal.

00:15:20.260 So this is kind of an amazing thing, right? On, on several levels. Let's not forget that just a few

00:15:25.220 months ago, just a few months ago in the wake of the riots in England, uh, there, there was Keir

00:15:31.480 Starmer came out and gave his Island of Strangers speech, which a lot of people were like, wow,

00:15:36.440 I can't believe that he's saying this. He was saying that, Hey, we need to have a national identity.

00:15:40.600 We have to be unified. We can't just let a bunch of foreigners in here and, and, and forget who we

00:15:45.820 are as a people. He, he did this very conciliatory speech. It seemed to the right to try to pull

00:15:51.320 things together, maybe, maybe make a bridge back to some of the voters that labor had lost in the

00:15:57.020 working class, this kind of thing. And this shows you how deep the woke foreign interests are in the

00:16:04.660 UK, because he recognized that that was good politics at the time, right? Like the, you know,

00:16:09.920 I've made the argument, um, that most leaders are in some way, true believers. Keir Starmer is

00:16:15.460 obviously just a complete mercenary lunatic psychopath. And like, he will just say anything

00:16:20.960 like the man is an absolute, like, like I would not trust him with my children for four seconds,

00:16:25.860 right? Like just not at all. Um, and so, you know, the idea that he is now coming out and declaring

00:16:32.600 the British people, like you're the enemy. You're not, not you, not the foreigners stabbing our

00:16:38.420 children, raping our daughters, you know, none of that. You, you, and he specifically says that

00:16:44.520 if you say that a foreigner can't be English. Now, some people will argue over British, right?

00:16:51.180 They'll say, well, British is this like supranational identity that spread out into the empire.

00:16:56.180 I know a lot of English people who have a problem with that. They say, no, British is just

00:17:00.020 well, Scotland, Northern Ireland and England. But some people are like, well, no, because you know,

00:17:05.080 they conquered all these other Commonwealth nations and that that's the true meaning of

00:17:09.240 British. Some people are okay with that. Some are aren't English is the actual ethnos. It's,

00:17:15.380 it's, it's specific. It's specific to the Island of England. So saying that you cannot exclude

00:17:22.120 someone from Pakistan, from the identity of England, or you are my enemy. I mean, this is just

00:17:28.980 absolutely insane rhetoric. He's declaring war on his own people of his country on behalf of

00:17:34.780 foreigners, like pretty explicitly here. Well, if he, if he uses whenever the, the, the British

00:17:42.120 or the English left uses the term British to try to get around this, that specifically calls for royal

00:17:49.540 action because that's the, uh, you know, it's not going to happen sadly because we have a, uh, yeah,

00:17:57.340 we not we, but, but, but the, uh, crown is, has, has, uh, become so impotent. Um, but that's, you know,

00:18:06.620 this is, this is a place where if this is a British issue, the, the crown should absolutely step in

00:18:13.020 and enforce, uh, that which is good for, uh, his people and his subjects. It's not going to happen,

00:18:19.040 but let's be clear. Keir Starmer is using, this is revolutionary language and you, all you have to go

00:18:25.680 is national renewal. What does he mean by that? Well, he means erasing English, uh, uh, English

00:18:34.420 British heritage. That that's, that's all that he's saying so that he can create a government that

00:18:40.920 supports empowering his, uh, his coterie of folks. So that, uh, this is just revolutionary and people

00:18:50.820 on the right or, or traditional conservatives or whatever, we all can gather around and be,

00:18:58.280 we are anti-revolutionary, uh, and it's, it's disgusting. Um, and he speaks of generations,

00:19:05.840 you know, uh, no one, I, I don't hear calls for action against, uh, the, the Jamaicans that came

00:19:15.220 over in the fifties and sixties. I think it was a total of about half a million people who have fully

00:19:20.020 integrated over generations and are truly English. Uh, you know, I'm a, I'm going to send your cards

00:19:28.000 and letters to, I would say they, they aren't, I would say they aren't truly English. You can give

00:19:32.320 them a, you could give them a wider title of British, but by definition, they can't be English.

00:19:37.280 No, you're absolutely right. But what I'm saying is there has been an assimilation that has happened

00:19:41.940 there. Uh, and, uh, uh, and that is not, there is no assimilation whatsoever with these last few waves

00:19:51.580 of, uh, of boat people that have, uh, that have come over. And so anyway, it's a, uh, and I've made the,

00:19:59.720 the, the, the comment before, if, if you're going to have any immigration, it has to be a spice. It

00:20:06.060 can't overpower the, uh, the entree. And that's what you're saying is, uh, a spice that overpowers

00:20:12.640 the, uh, English entree. Well, and I really want to focus here again on the level of, um, just betrayal,

00:20:21.100 because again, this is a scenario where Keir Starmer recognized good politics at first when he saw it,

00:20:27.340 right after the riots, he recognized, okay, we've gone too far. There's too much pressure on the

00:20:32.280 system. We've let to me migrants in the two tier policing, everything else. It's too much. And we

00:20:38.160 have to find a way back to work with the native population, work with the working class, bring

00:20:44.020 some of those people back in the coalition, or we're going to lose support. Labor is going to lose

00:20:47.560 control, uh, of the whole thing. And from what we're seeing all over the place, it looks like that's

00:20:52.340 the case. Nigel Farage is well ahead in the polls, uh, pretty much everywhere you look now. I honestly

00:20:58.100 don't trust Nigel Farage, uh, as, as far as I could throw him, but, uh, he has to be improvement over

00:21:04.500 Keir Starmer literally, you know, anything would be, uh, but, but just the fact that foreign powers

00:21:10.900 and foreign interests in his country are so overwhelming, uh, that ultimately he would side

00:21:16.080 with them before he would side with the native population. Even when he knows that's good politics,

00:21:20.800 that really tells you something. And, you know, I've had ultimately the, the, you know, I've,

00:21:25.600 I've, people have asked me, well, why do you have this mass immigration? What is it there for?

00:21:30.500 And my answer has been over and over again. It's the, it's the classic high and low versus middle

00:21:35.140 strategy in political power, right? You, you, you get rid of the native population, you get rid of the

00:21:40.880 middle class, get rid of the people who have a tie to the land and, and different, uh, institutions

00:21:45.240 and traditions that block the power of government. And you bring in a bunch of people who are just

00:21:49.640 going to do what the government tells them, or they're going to vote, uh, for the people who

00:21:53.300 brought them in and are given the benefits no matter what. And this secures you permanent

00:21:57.380 political power. And you got to kill the culottes. Yeah. A hundred percent, a hundred percent. And,

00:22:02.940 and because of that, we have this dynamic where Keir Starmer will, will literally just completely

00:22:08.140 betray his own people, even when he knows that is the right move, even politically. And this is where

00:22:13.500 I get angry with people who are like, well, you know, democracy solves these problems. Popular

00:22:17.840 sovereignty solves these problems. Look at these guys. Look, the British voted against, uh, against

00:22:23.680 immigration under Boris Johnson. They got way more immigration. They, they voted for less

00:22:29.680 immigration under, uh, Richie Sunak. They got more, they got record numbers of immigration.

00:22:35.700 They vote for less, uh, immigration and they get Keir Starmer who has to basically threaten to jail

00:22:42.060 them, to stop them from asking for less immigration. And then he declares them the enemy. These are

00:22:47.700 all democratically elected leaders. Every single one of them is a democratically elected leader.

00:22:52.980 And all of them are directly against the population to the point where they have now declared the

00:22:57.420 population that theoretically elects them. The enemy don't tell me about liberal democracy. Liberal

00:23:02.540 democracy has failed. It has failed in England. And I think it's failed most other places it's

00:23:08.540 practiced. Well, not to mix metaphors, but it's like Stockholm syndrome. Uh, and, and I think that

00:23:14.920 there's a sense in which, uh, uh, uh, it seems like the, the people of the UK, uh, uh, uh, love their captors

00:23:22.260 now, uh, because they've been subject to their, uh, to their rule for so long. I, I, it's, it's very sad. Um,

00:23:30.600 I don't know, I don't know how it gets fixed. I mean, Farage is probably, is, is probably an

00:23:39.720 improvement, but I'm with you. He's been all over the board, uh, in the, over the last 18 months.

00:23:46.560 Um, so I don't, you know, I look forward to listening to him at a NatCon to try to figure out

00:23:51.980 where he was coming. And then he, you know, I don't, he didn't show up or for whatever reason.

00:23:56.620 So I don't know, I don't know what the answer is, but it needs to be something other than a, uh,

00:24:02.760 a, uh, a clothed, uh, revolutionary. Yeah. It's a, it's a, it's a, it's a bad,

00:24:10.280 it's a bad, uh, place for Britain to be in. And I really hope that the English are able to turn this

00:24:15.240 around because I've now been there several times, have many friends there. It's a beautiful country

00:24:19.260 with fantastic people. And you hate to see it in that, uh, you know, I've made the joke more than

00:24:24.160 once, you know, this is my one neocon position. I will arm the moderate British, uh, you know,

00:24:29.180 you know, I've, I've gotten to be really close with, uh, Faraz Modad, who's one of the, uh,

00:24:35.360 Lotus Eater guys. And we, we, we appear on a, on a different podcast occasionally together and, uh,

00:24:42.020 uh, with our friend Pete and, uh, and he's, he's so great. And so, uh, he's even said, look,

00:24:50.620 I'm not heritage English. I'll go home if that's what it takes to reclaim England for England to be

00:24:56.520 English again. And, uh, I just feel for those people because I'm English by heritage. I, uh,

00:25:03.680 my, my folks came over, my ancestors came over, uh, from a boat that left Southampton in, uh, 1851.

00:25:11.360 Uh, I am 80% English. Uh, I follow Arsenal in London. I, I, I love heritage England. Uh,

00:25:21.600 you know, I even like mashy peas to, um, you know, and, uh, well, that's a little far, but yeah,

00:25:27.720 you know, and, uh, but I'll take a black and tan right now. And, uh, and, but, uh, it's,

00:25:36.280 it's very sad and I'm with you, let's go, let's drop crates of ARs, uh, on the Midlands.

00:25:44.000 No. Yeah. I'm, I'm, uh, you know, I, I feel the same kind of affection. My family came over,

00:25:48.540 uh, in the, you know, 1790s, uh, you know, landed in Virginia from, uh, from England. So

00:25:54.360 definitely, you know, I think, I think that's why so many Americans feel that call, you know,

00:25:58.720 uh, you know, to England, you know, it's, it's a separate country. It's its own country

00:26:02.040 ultimately has to solve its own problems, but obviously, you know, we do have those,

00:26:05.700 those, uh, uh, traditional ties, those heritage ties, uh, and to some extent,

00:26:10.620 cultural ties, uh, back to England. They obviously, it, you know, permeates our legal

00:26:14.640 system and, and all kinds of other aspects of our culture. And so, uh, it's just very

00:26:19.360 difficult to see. Yeah. People are bound by language. Yeah. Uh, you can, uh, all the other

00:26:24.180 things, but the prime, you know, the primary binding of civilization is religion, you know,

00:26:29.120 our religion and language. You just can't get away from the tie of, of speaking a common

00:26:35.240 word. So. Absolutely. All right. Well, let's go to our, um, let's go to our next story. Actually,

00:26:43.720 before we go to our next story, uh, I wanted to stop for a minute. Um, we, I've been wanting

00:26:50.860 to do fundraisers on the show for a while. I wanted to start doing charity fundraisers for

00:26:55.780 a good cause. I was thinking about that again this morning. I was asking friends, Hey, you

00:27:01.280 know, what, what should I be doing? Uh, what, what should we be doing to help out, uh, uh,

00:27:06.760 people, uh, you know, who are kind of aligned with us? How can we help friends? I don't

00:27:10.000 want to just give money to some big charity. That's going to blow it on some woke cause.

00:27:13.940 Right. Ultimately. I want to, want to make sure that I'm directing people to something

00:27:17.600 that is worthy. And actually, uh, funny enough, God said, you know what, I've got the perfect

00:27:23.840 thing for you to share with your audience. So our friend, Andrew Isker, uh, obviously is

00:27:29.520 himself a pastor. He's been on my show, uh, multiple times as co-host, uh, uh, CJ Engel

00:27:34.880 has also been, uh, on the show. They have a podcast together and they are part of the

00:27:39.560 Ridge runner community, uh, that is out in Tennessee. And one of the things that they

00:27:43.780 are trying to do is get their church off the ground. Uh, so if you, uh, Patriot would

00:27:49.600 like to support one of our guys doing great work, if you're like the Lord has blessed me

00:27:54.080 with a little extra funds and I want to do something great, uh, then, then I am encouraging

00:27:58.820 you to help out Andrew Isker. He is raising money for his church plant there in, uh, Tennessee.

00:28:05.340 Uh, the name of the church is the, uh, Whitleyville, uh, church. And, uh, there is a link here.

00:28:11.580 Now I have the link in the description of this video. If you're listening on podcasts, it'll

00:28:15.740 be in the Apple or Spotify description, all that stuff. And it's real simple. You just click

00:28:20.180 on that link and it'll direct you there. They're going to set up a thing so we can keep track

00:28:24.380 of the amount of money that they need to, uh, to raise and make sure that we're hitting

00:28:28.740 that. But I really encourage you guys to take a minute and go, uh, to the whitleyvillechurch.com

00:28:35.280 slash donate. That's whitleyvillechurch.com slash donate. Again, I've got a link in the description

00:28:40.360 of this video, or if you're listening on an audio podcast, you'll find it in the description

00:28:44.460 on the platform you're listening in. And guys, uh, we need to make this happen. All right.

00:28:49.300 I want to see, uh, this church grow. These are our friends. They are, uh, guys who are

00:28:54.160 doing great work. They're setting up intentional communities to make sure that Christians can

00:28:58.700 live together, uh, and make an impact. This is exactly the kind of project that we talk

00:29:03.880 about that we want to see. We want to see people building communities. We want to see people

00:29:07.160 taking action. We want to see people making a difference and putting their sweat in right

00:29:12.660 skin in the game. This isn't just typing on the internet. This isn't just sitting on a

00:29:16.780 forum or making a meme. This is real life getting together with brothers and building a community

00:29:21.840 that honors God and, uh, and perpetuates American values. So again, I just encourage you to head

00:29:27.360 over, uh, to Andrew Isker's, uh, you can go to his Twitter. There's a link there. You can go to this

00:29:32.160 video and click on the link, uh, below. You can go on the audio platform and click there, but make sure

00:29:37.440 to donate. I've already made a donation. I encourage you to do the same. We should be able, the audience of

00:29:42.780 this show is big enough to make this happen. Let's bless these brothers in Christ. Let's build a

00:29:48.040 church. Let's provide a witness for Christ in this area of Tennessee. And let's make a difference for

00:29:54.360 our friends as well. Hey, let me ditto every bit of that. I have known, well, first of all, I'm

00:30:02.500 personally an investor in, in Ridge runner. I believe that's how much, and I don't invest in a ton of

00:30:10.320 stuff, but I'm an investor at size and Ridge runner. Cause I believe in it. I believe in the mission.

00:30:15.100 I believe in its future success. I've known Andrew. I've known Andrew Isker for close to 15 years now.

00:30:25.380 This is a faithful brother. He is, uh, he can communicate at, uh, with the common man or at any

00:30:34.700 level. He's, he's a very bright, very well-read. He's a faithful, uh, father and husband of a massive

00:30:42.420 family. Um, uh, he is a dear friend who I talk to multiple times a week. There is no better, there is,

00:30:51.180 there, there is no better tar, uh, you know, where you can target some concentrated giving that will make

00:30:57.320 a difference, uh, on the ground today. Uh, he is one of us in this, and he is championing the right

00:31:06.560 things. And, uh, please, uh, consider this, uh, wholeheartedly because he is, this is a good cause,

00:31:15.640 a great dude, a fantastic faithful pastor. Absolutely. So guys, like I said, we're going to

00:31:22.580 be doing this, this, that's, this is going to be a month of fundraising until we hit this goal.

00:31:27.720 So we'll be talking about this multiple times, uh, but let's get in there and just, you know,

00:31:31.620 give them a burst at the beginning. Like I said, they're going to set up like a ticker and everything.

00:31:34.720 So, you know, how far along they are, uh, to purchasing the land needed to construct the church.

00:31:39.880 Uh, but I just encourage you once again, to go to the link, uh, below, uh, this video, or again,

00:31:45.920 if you're listening on podcasts, it'll be in the description, make sure to give something there.

00:31:49.960 Every little bit helps a lot. And I am really hoping that we can use this show as a force for

00:31:54.960 good to help our brothers in Christ and those that are aligned with our values. So make sure to head

00:31:59.720 that way when you can. All right. So let's get to the big story that I brought you on to discuss here,

00:32:05.420 uh, Ron. Uh, so the government has shut down, uh, the Democrats refused to, uh, vote to move and help

00:32:14.200 some other, you know, you just needed a few democratic votes to help, uh, the Republicans pass a bill that

00:32:18.700 would have been a continuing resolution. The line that they drew as far as I can understand is that

00:32:23.400 they refuse to remove, uh, uh, language that would roll back, uh, adjustments to, uh, Medicare funding,

00:32:32.000 right? Like the idea was they ultimately want to make sure that, uh, immigrants can continue to receive

00:32:37.760 federal tax dollars for their healthcare. So previously, you know, the idea was, oh, well,

00:32:42.860 no, they can't, they can't receive this, but the truth is actually anyone under temporary protected

00:32:47.860 status, anyone who's considered a, uh, uh, anyone who's considered under asylum, uh, these people are

00:32:54.060 all, uh, eligible to receive federal funding for their healthcare. And of course we know states like

00:32:59.860 California cheat the system and use it to move, uh, you know, illegal immigrants onto these taxpayer

00:33:06.120 roles, even though technically by law, they're not allowed to get this. The Republicans intended to shut

00:33:11.460 this down. The Democrats decided, nope, we're going to get rid of that for, or if we don't get rid of

00:33:16.260 that, we're not funding the government. So they have shut down the government effectively. Now, a lot

00:33:20.420 of people say, oh no, government is getting, uh, you know, shut down. However, as I understand it,

00:33:26.180 this could actually be a boon for the Trump administration, because once the government is

00:33:31.220 shut down, once the funding is shut down, the opposite of management and budget ends up becoming

00:33:36.480 the one that gets to decide how the government is shut down. They get to decide which items get

00:33:41.360 defunded, which personnel are not essential and get furloughed, uh, which, uh, different aspects

00:33:46.380 of programs are no longer available. And so this gives a wide, wide birth, uh, to the opposite of

00:33:52.560 management and budget to ultimately decide how the federal government is going to operate during

00:33:56.980 the shutdown. Could you explain a little more about how this works? Well, it's, it's complicated and

00:34:02.940 it gets arcane. So I'll try to be as, as cookies on the bottom shelf as possible, but you're exactly

00:34:08.420 right. I mean, this is a result of the legislature, not legislating, uh, you know, to back up a little

00:34:15.200 bit, we have three co-equal branches of government in theory, but the legislature operates under a

00:34:22.020 legislative, uh, supremacy idea that would, and, and that just like the judiciary wants judicial

00:34:29.440 supremacy. And, and, and really what's supposed to happen is all three are co-equal and they put

00:34:36.380 forward their, you know, they got to play ball with the other two branches and that's not happening.

00:34:41.660 So, uh, under this, uh, uh, so, so because they haven't come to a, a, a, some kind of consensus,

00:34:49.160 uh, for a continuing resolution, much less a budget, uh, you know, used to, we had budgets,

00:34:56.340 uh, annual budgets in this country, but because of that, you come under this, uh, the office of

00:35:02.940 management and budget decides, and that's the check writing, uh, arm of the executive branch.

00:35:10.480 Now we know in theory, under constitutional law, that the executive branch serves at the pleasure

00:35:16.600 of the chief executive, but over time that, that, that power has been eroded, uh, you know, uh,

00:35:25.860 through a lot of things, but under, during the Nixon time period, you had the impoundment act,

00:35:33.580 which, which really eroded some of this power. And then you also have the anti-deficiency act.

00:35:39.340 And that's what's, so you have OMB, uh, office of management and budget, and that's Russ vote who

00:35:46.560 runs that. And Russ is one of us. He was a Lincoln fellow, uh, uh, at, for the Claremont Institute,

00:35:53.440 which is a officially nonpartisan, but very conservative, if not right wing and practice,

00:36:00.400 uh, think tank that I full disclosure, I write for, um, but Russ is, is, uh, has authority to,

00:36:10.600 uh, to have, um, all the different agencies submit what are called, uh, uh, uh, these, uh, plans to,

00:36:21.520 to determine which of their activities and employees are essential. And in response to that,

00:36:29.340 those essential, uh, the anti-deficiency act says essential things must continue to be funded.

00:36:37.240 And the non-essential things can be, uh, subject to a reduction in force or a RIF. And the reduction

00:36:45.120 in force allowed, supersedes basically the civil service laws. In theory, civil servants can't be

00:36:52.480 fired unless they aren't doing their job. So they don't really work under the pleasure, you know,

00:36:59.160 at the pleasure of the president, they're just eternal deep staters. But, but this furloughing,

00:37:06.000 which happens under this reduction in force program can get around that. Now it's the official,

00:37:11.360 I have to make clear, it's the official position of the presidency and the office of management and

00:37:16.400 budget that they don't, they, you know, that a shutdown, we don't, we want the Congress to come

00:37:21.640 up with a budget or continuing resolution that, that follows, uh, under, uh, the, uh, the auspices

00:37:30.000 of, of their constitutional authority. And this should go along, uh, uh, as planned. But since we're

00:37:37.360 off script because they couldn't do that in time, uh, this is under the, the purview of OMB in order

00:37:45.440 to, uh, to, to, uh, to exercise this authority. So for instance, um, how can, uh, and, and I have to be,

00:37:58.320 I have to be careful not to be, not, not, not to say, uh, uh, uh, not to give complete transparency

00:38:06.560 here because this is, you know, there's some politics being involved, but I know that for

00:38:10.400 instance, the OMB is looking very carefully at Schumer shoehorned into the last continuing

00:38:17.360 resolution and $18 billion subway project, uh, called the Hudson Valley commuter rail, uh, or I think it's

00:38:25.920 technically called the gateway project. And so this is not, this is not essential. It hasn't been

00:38:32.800 labeled as essential by any of the, uh, uh, executive, uh, branch, uh, agencies. And so I think this will

00:38:41.200 be used as a, as a lever of power against Schumer and to make him come to, come to the table. Um,

00:38:49.360 there's also, uh, the grant review process that OMB, uh, has, uh, that, uh, for instance, there's the

00:38:58.240 PEPFAR program, and that is basically a, you won't believe this, but it's a, it's a program in which

00:39:07.600 that was initially, uh, authorized under USAID, but it was moved into the regular continuing resolution

00:39:14.560 program that is a African and Haitian transgender job program, millions of dollars. And so, uh, so,

00:39:26.160 so you have, uh, so I know that they're going to be looking at, uh, basically not cutting checks for

00:39:32.480 that. Um, so, so this is think of the president working to defund the deep state, uh, in three

00:39:43.520 separate ways. So you have impoundment, which this is not, this is all shutdown, which is under

00:39:50.960 anti-deficiency act, but you have impoundment, which is the, the idea that the executive has the

00:39:56.560 authority to not spend that, that federal, that, uh, congressional spending that is authorized is a max,

00:40:05.360 not a mandatory. And so you have that, then you have this long-term look at what's called schedule F

00:40:12.480 at attacking the, the eternality of, of civil servanthood. And now you have under, under,

00:40:20.720 uh, uh, under a shutdown, uh, that which is, um, essential versus that which is non-essential.

00:40:29.360 And if it's non-essential, then it's the, it's the opinion of the executive that it shouldn't be ongoing

00:40:36.400 and it shouldn't be, uh, uh, subject to zero, uh, uh, you know, where you start the budget for that

00:40:44.000 executive, uh, uh, that executive branch agency at whatever the maximum is this year, you, that's your

00:40:51.600 zero line for next year. And so that's really the three ways they're going after that. And this last

00:40:57.680 piece is what's, uh, uh, absolutely part of this shutdown, uh, aspect. So, you know, it's, and I

00:41:05.920 think the agencies are playing ball with their, uh, with their, uh, uh, you know, their essential,

00:41:13.360 uh, essential worker plans, um, which they should, you know, these are run by political appointees of

00:41:19.680 the president, but you know, they're very entrenched agencies. So we'll see.

00:41:24.080 Yeah, I can see on Russ Vought's, uh, Twitter, he's already discussed, uh, you said 18 billion

00:41:30.400 in New York city infrastructure projects are on hold, uh, because they might be unconstitutional

00:41:35.440 because of their DDI principles. He mentions the Hudson tunnel project, like you were saying,

00:41:39.920 along with a second Avenue subway. Uh, he's also listed, uh, 8 billion in green new deal scam

00:41:46.000 funding, uh, that will be cut in places like Colorado, California, Connecticut, Delaware, uh,

00:41:52.640 Illinois, Maryland. Uh, so we can see kind of where these pressure points are, how easy it is,

00:41:58.800 uh, to, to apply this, which is great to see the, you know, the Trump administration playing a little

00:42:02.800 of a hard ball here to, to, to kind of force the issue. Well, the, the, the issue ultimately to,

00:42:09.200 to be 35, you know, 30,000 foot level is does the president have executive authority over the

00:42:17.520 executive branch, right? It's the executive branches role to carry out, uh, you know, the, the,

00:42:25.600 the legislature in, in theory writes laws and then sends appropriations for those laws. And it's the

00:42:33.440 executive branch that the, the elections have, have consequences. You know, that's Obama said it,

00:42:40.160 but it's absolutely true. And the, the chief executive has discretion over how his branch

00:42:46.800 executes all of that. And the employees of the executive branch in, in theory, at least when

00:42:53.840 the constitution was written, uh, serve at the pleasure of the president. So, uh, it was FDR that,

00:43:00.800 that really changed this with the creation of the civil service that, that created this ongoing, uh, uh,

00:43:08.320 this ongoing unfireable deep state that is just continually, and they're, and they're,

00:43:14.160 they're always left leaning, uh, just by the, by the sheer, um, uh, structure of it. Uh, so,

00:43:21.520 because right-leaning folks generally don't want to work for, I mean, there's some good civil servants

00:43:27.600 that, you know, I, I, that's not the point. The point is that this is a way for the left to ex, to,

00:43:35.200 to, to, uh, to exert power over anyone that has a not left perspective. That's the, that's the purpose

00:43:43.840 of it. And it, and they're not fireable. And so, uh, this is a way to, uh, at least tear some of that,

00:43:50.080 if not a huge portion of it down. And the longer this goes on, um, the more power they'll have,

00:43:57.280 you know, they'll have, because if these people aren't, if they're not essential, then they're

00:44:02.960 showing the, uh, that they should be fired. They should be let go and they shouldn't be reinstated

00:44:08.800 when the government is, uh, uh, when the shutdown is over. Yeah. I was going to ask you that, uh,

00:44:15.120 next, because ultimately, uh, like you said, the, you know, the, the base position of the Trump

00:44:20.160 administration is obviously we want to, the government to be active. We don't want a government

00:44:24.240 shutdown. We do want proper funding. Uh, but, uh, it ultimately, is there an advantage to a long-term

00:44:31.660 shutdown for the Trump administration? Because as you said, not only do you get to strangle these

00:44:35.860 programs and show how unimportant they are, but normally a lot of this stuff is built on momentum.

00:44:41.320 Like even if we, if we start the government back up, we'll still be funding a transgender African

00:44:45.780 program, right? Like that, that will be where my tax dollars are going. So ultimately, if you

00:44:50.940 strangle these programs for, for long enough, many of them will simply shut down. They will not be

00:44:55.520 able to continue to operate with that, that, uh, that stream of funding, much like USAID, uh, you

00:45:00.680 know, uh, they, once, once that flow is gone for a while, they won't resurrect even if, you know,

00:45:05.720 the government restarts. So is there an argument that ultimately an extended shutdown favors the

00:45:11.180 Trump administration in the long run? Well, I think there is, um, there's a political, you know,

00:45:16.660 you're, you've, you've, you've got the political momentum of generations being told and whose,

00:45:23.240 whose livelihood, uh, is dependent upon getting reelected that there, uh, that a shutdown always

00:45:30.780 favors the left. I don't know that that's the case anymore. I, I, I, I kind of get the feeling that

00:45:39.460 with the change in the Trump coalition, that there are those, and especially since they've been,

00:45:45.180 uh, uh, pretty savvy about making sure that certain things have continued that, that, that are

00:45:51.940 politically third rail, uh, so to speak, continue to get funded. Right. Yeah. But, uh, yeah, I think

00:45:59.120 there is the idea. And of course, you know, the, the, the, the congressional, both the Senate, uh,

00:46:05.780 under Schumer and the, and the congressional Democrats could come and acquiesce to all the,

00:46:11.420 uh, the, uh, the, uh, you know, it's not like, it's not like Congress, uh, the, the, the conservatives,

00:46:18.780 you know, the Republicans in the Senate and the house are making, uh, super right-wing demands.

00:46:26.120 Uh, they're just not, they're not to, they're not to our spot yet. Uh, are they right of center? Yeah.

00:46:32.940 Um, uh, you know, but, but it should never be a question of us. First of all, the federal government

00:46:40.260 has zero, should have zero role in healthcare. I, in my opinion, I don't know why it's, you know,

00:46:46.200 but, but that's the case, but why are they funding? Why would they ever fund the healthcare

00:46:51.720 for non-citizen? Right. Yeah. I don't care if you're here legally or not. If you're not a citizen,

00:46:57.440 it just boggles my mind. But anyway, that's the, that's the hand we're, we've been given right now.

00:47:04.920 And I think it does favor from a momentum standpoint, from a fact that some of these

00:47:09.580 people will have to go look for jobs. Uh, so you're going to get attrition by necessity.

00:47:14.840 And I think you're going to, uh, and I think the longer it goes, you're going to see that

00:47:20.480 some of this stuff isn't needed. The national parks are being funded. Social security is being

00:47:25.000 funded. Uh, we have enough money. I mean, the whole deal of not being able to fund the, the,

00:47:30.860 the debt and all that is crazy. The federal reserve, although it's the chairman is, is absolutely

00:47:38.020 hates Trump. Uh, uh, and, and I know that personally, um, but they can print as much as needed to fund

00:47:47.360 interest payments and the, and the, and the, and the armed services and all that. So that's not an

00:47:53.000 issue. These are, these are executive branch, non-essential services that are being, uh, on the

00:47:59.080 chopping block. And I think people will see that they're just not needed. Yeah. And like you said,

00:48:04.340 the, the, the administration, the Republicans jail have a pretty strong thing to stand on in the fact

00:48:09.860 that so many Americans themselves cannot afford healthcare, but their money is being stolen to

00:48:15.020 fund the healthcare of people who should not be here. Uh, and, and that's literally the only thing

00:48:19.760 holding up, you know, the government funding, as I'm aware, it's not that the Republicans have like

00:48:24.860 10 crazy demands. They're like, no, we just want to keep not paying for healthcare for people who

00:48:30.580 aren't supposed to be here. And that's really the hill that the Democrats are dying on. So

00:48:34.220 as you can't pay your medical bills, just remember the government isn't working right now,

00:48:38.620 specifically because the Democrats want to pay other people's medical bills who shouldn't be

00:48:42.720 here with your money. It's, I think that's a pretty, pretty simple case to, to share on a regular

00:48:47.440 basis, but we have some questions of the people here, uh, that are building up. So we should get to

00:48:52.180 them before we do, Ron, is there anywhere you want to send people to read your work?

00:48:56.720 Uh, I'm published at, uh, as previously mentioned by, uh, Claremont at the American mind,

00:49:03.040 uh, and, uh, by American reformer, I've written for the blaze, uh, before. And, uh, then I have a

00:49:11.340 sub stack, Ron Dodson, uh, dot sub stack.com. It's called the eyes of a pillies. And then, uh,

00:49:18.580 I'm probably a little too active on Twitter at times. So, uh, are we all find me at all those

00:49:23.800 and at a podcast near you? Excellent. All right. Philosophical thirst, thirstworm says, uh, Mike

00:49:30.340 Cernovich's argument to help Israel fans be smarter, effective. It's so funny because they'll even

00:49:35.120 call him an anti-Semite. They can't help themselves. Well, this is what's been happening to Megan

00:49:38.900 Kelly recently, right? Have you, have you been following, uh, Megan Kelly's, uh, blowback?

00:49:44.140 I was, I was sharing. I absolutely. I shared, uh, uh, her stuff with my two daughters who are both in

00:49:51.520 college right now. And I'm like, look, this is just a sign of it. Like it or not, that we're to

00:49:58.900 the point of friends and enemies. And, uh, you know, yeah, but that Megan Kelly deal is unbelievable.

00:50:06.880 For those who don't know, Megan Kelly has been receiving like this giant, like relentless

00:50:11.760 struggle session from people, of course, on the right over Israel, because she's very pro Israel has

00:50:17.420 always been pro Israel has always been very friendly to Israel, but is also friends with people like

00:50:21.300 Tucker Carlson. And she's just said, look, he disagrees with me on this stuff, but he's a good

00:50:26.160 friend. I know him. He's a good guy. Like, I'm not going to throw this guy under the bus just because

00:50:31.000 you demand it. And of course, you know, the, the very people who should be trying to win her over

00:50:37.100 because she's already a fan of theirs instead are attacking her, some anti-Semite. And this just

00:50:42.760 shows over and over again that the, you know, the, the divisive nature that this little state in the

00:50:50.400 Middle East has over American politics where you can't even say, yeah, I, I, I agree with these

00:50:57.060 people, but a friend of mine doesn't, and I'm not going to denounce them as if it's your duty as an

00:51:02.820 American to pledge allegiance to Israel and defend Israel at all costs. So, so they're destroying their

00:51:07.980 own support base because they're attacking the people who are on their side just because they

00:51:13.360 haven't like cut off every friend and family member. They're just woke leftists, which is so funny

00:51:18.600 because they're the people using this term woke. Right. But they're like, if you don't denounce

00:51:22.160 your friends, if you don't denounce your family for the cause of Israel, you can't be an American.

00:51:26.460 What is that? That that's the concern is that, is there a malice turn going on with Israel right

00:51:35.760 now? Yeah. Um, you know, you've spent time with Tucker. I've spent time with Tucker. Uh, he is not a

00:51:43.160 Zionist, but he is not anti he's got, I don't need to make, I don't need to, you know, we don't,

00:51:50.220 we don't have to defend Tucker to defend himself, but this is calling Tucker an anti-Semite is,

00:51:55.400 is ridiculous. So of course, anyway, uh, herb seasoning says, which version was better or in,

00:52:03.100 uh, the, uh, Metallica four horsemen or the Megadeth mechanics. So for people who don't know,

00:52:09.220 Dave Mustaine was the original guitarist, uh, lead guitarist for, uh, Metallica. And when,

00:52:14.960 uh, he left, uh, Metallica kept most of his material. So the first two Metallica albums are

00:52:20.480 largely Megadeth albums. Basically there, there are a lot of Dave Mustaine's riffs. Famously,

00:52:25.780 uh, Dave Mustaine kept one of his songs, uh, mechanics, uh, and rerecorded it, uh, when he left

00:52:32.660 and made Megadeth. However, just despite Metallica, he decided he wanted to do it just a little bit

00:52:37.960 faster. Uh, and so he actually played the entire song, uh, just a little bit faster so he could

00:52:42.940 show that he was ultimately superior to Metallica. So when it comes down to it, uh, which do I think

00:52:48.800 is better? I think, um, uh, mechanics is a better technically musical song. Like I think obviously,

00:52:54.800 uh, Dave Mustaine's technical ability, uh, is showed off more in that version, especially due to its

00:53:00.300 increased speed. I am a little partial to the themes of four horsemen. I think just the rewritten

00:53:06.080 lyrics there are ultimately better though. I will say, uh, I'm a big Megadeth fan. Uh, I got to see

00:53:12.440 them along with, uh, All That Remains, uh, which was fantastic. Phil of All That Remains, uh, got me

00:53:17.140 tickets to go see them when they were on tour. Uh, so big thanks to him. Uh, and I think Rust in

00:53:21.800 Peace is arguably, uh, one of the greatest metal, uh, metal albums of all time. Uh, so, uh, I will say

00:53:28.040 I overall do favor the four horsemen version, uh, but still a huge fan of Megadeth as well.

00:53:33.340 I'm going to jump in big fan of Chris Poland's tone, uh, played a Bogner fish. Yes. I worked for

00:53:41.740 Van Halen as, uh, as a demo guitarist back in the nineties. Um, this is a, uh, and, uh, I absolutely,

00:53:50.160 uh, I think, uh, Poland's, uh, somehow I'm getting an, uh, hold on, let me kill this. Um, the, uh,

00:53:58.080 Poland's tone using that Bogner fish. And I think a VHT, uh, power amp is absolutely outstanding.

00:54:05.020 So there you go. Big, big, big Megadeth fans all around here. Uh, brands Wingle says 1790s.

00:54:13.260 You Johnny come lately. I know, I know, I know. I'm, I'm basically, I'm basically a newcomer. Oh,

00:54:18.040 well, no, no, you're Ron. You're like, uh, you're like Ellis Island. You know, you're, you're,

00:54:21.600 yeah, I'm, uh, do I count? Do I get, uh, I guess you'd like, you, you'd just barely sneak

00:54:31.580 into the heritage American. What were you said? 18 something. Was it pre or post civil war?

00:54:36.400 Just pre civil war. Okay. All right. So you made, you made the heritage American, Alabama and Tennessee

00:54:42.780 and then to East Texas. There you go. There you go. Yep. All right. Uh, Mel Gibson after four

00:54:50.120 beers again, one of the best, uh, names there, uh, without self doxing, uh, Whitleyville is in my

00:54:55.560 general area. Love to see it and donating. God bless you and your show. Chat says Christ is King

00:55:01.180 right now. Absolutely. Christ is King. And also, uh, really glad to hear that you are near them,

00:55:07.020 that you support what they're doing. Appreciate you donating and everybody else. Again, you have the

00:55:11.140 opportunity to help out, uh, Andrew Isker in his church, help them build that church, get the land

00:55:15.680 that they need, uh, by following the link down in the description of the video or the podcast,

00:55:19.460 depending on what platform you're on. Thirstworm says lefty YouTube channels are hoping for tea

00:55:26.600 party level, uh, concessions from GOP, like demasking ice. The base wants much more than,

00:55:32.440 uh, can be one very sad. Oh yeah. I mean, if they're, if they think that this is like their key

00:55:37.080 leverage to defang the Trump administration, I think they really misunderstand who has the whip hand in

00:55:42.340 this one here. Um, I don't think that the, I don't, I don't think public support for Donald Trump is

00:55:47.880 going to collapse because he doesn't want to pay, uh, your tax dollars for, uh, immigrant healthcare,

00:55:52.980 but, uh, best of luck with them with selling that one. He also says, uh, Trump RX and farmer pricing

00:56:00.100 negotiations is a smart budgeting and smart politics. If Trump can get a check out, uh, with his name,

00:56:05.620 I think he wins the midterms. Any thoughts on that? Well, I, I, I think that, um, it's, it's a great

00:56:16.040 from a chief executive who's a champion of his people and S and saying, Hey, we've got to stop

00:56:23.080 using the pocket books of Americans, uh, to fund, uh, to fund basically when, when, when a drug is

00:56:32.960 researched, there's it's expensive and you've got to see that return, but that return is born by and

00:56:40.000 large off the backs of Americans more so than any other part of the world. And, and the, and Trump as

00:56:45.600 chief executive, as champion of his people, of his citizens, uh, to make that more equitable is

00:56:54.100 absolutely, uh, valid, not just from a, uh, politics, uh, a, uh, a, uh, low, you know, low

00:57:01.980 understanding of politics, but from a high understanding of politics of that, which is

00:57:05.780 just and righteous. Uh, I, I fully support it. No, I'm with you for, for my entire life. I heard

00:57:12.840 this argument for the right and it never sounded correct. Oh, well, you know, if, if we are, you

00:57:18.460 know, controlling these drug prices or dealing with these drug prices, then ultimately they'll

00:57:23.020 just stop, you know, trying to invent new drugs and it'll be, you know, the United States has to

00:57:27.520 bear this cost and no other nation will do it. It's like, what, why, what, how are we somehow like

00:57:32.960 the global, uh, funder of all of the healthcare industry? Why, why is that somehow our duty to make

00:57:39.140 big pharma, uh, maximally profitable? It just makes no sense.

00:57:42.840 And it's not just in pharma, uh, you know, you start to see anytime the stock market gets

00:57:49.840 really, really frothy and the under, like we were doing right now and the underlying, uh,

00:57:56.320 math for what's supporting it and jobs and, uh, uh, you know, home sales and all these things

00:58:02.760 below start degrading. Then you start seeing all these financialization products that come

00:58:08.840 out in order to try to zap the people with, uh, to try to pull as much rentier, levered

00:58:15.300 rentier income out of that as possible while the market's at a top. And you're starting to

00:58:19.680 see that. And it's the same, it's the same function as what the big pharma companies do.

00:58:23.820 It's just, we're the big wealthy target. So, uh, uh, you know, let's go get those, let's go get those

00:58:30.580 guys. Art says, uh, over 1 billion a month is spent on healthcare for 1.6 undocumented people

00:58:39.980 in California. The government shutdown can last in perpetuity, uh, until this ends. Uh, Americans

00:58:45.960 are tired of supporting, uh, anyone, but Americans. Again, I agree. And I think this is a very strong

00:58:50.780 argument. I think this is, I, I, that's why I feel like Democrats who think this is like their

00:58:54.920 opportunity to leverage the administration for all kinds of like concessions with ice or something.

00:58:59.680 They're just misunderstanding the, the, the strength of their position here. Uh, and so I am glad to see

00:59:05.340 the administration understands, uh, that they could put pressure in some really critical places,

00:59:10.420 uh, to make sure that they have to come to the table. Wild speaker says Democrats have been so on,

00:59:16.480 uh, have never been so unpopular. All their usual antics seem spiteful and pathetic now. Yeah.

00:59:21.500 It is amazing that, uh, whatever people have had problems with, uh, the Trump administration or maybe

00:59:27.120 certain issues, uh, the Democrats, uh, popularity just keeps dropping like, like a stone. Normally,

00:59:32.880 you know, if, uh, if there's something unpopular is happening, there's some bad situation in the

00:59:37.120 country, you would expect to see the opposition party gain some momentum, some numbers, some,

00:59:41.680 some popularity. Uh, but that has just not been the case. It feels like even if at times the

00:59:46.280 Trump administration is staggering or missing the mark on some things, the Democrats are somehow

00:59:50.620 still in a worse place and are not really sure how to rally back. Yeah. The, um, I think it's,

00:59:56.740 it's, it's, we finally got to the point where even the person on the street who, for whom politics

01:00:02.400 isn't their, you know, their, uh, sports ball, um, are realizing that the Democrats are a, are a,

01:00:09.600 uh, really a, uh, support just a bunch of, uh, minority interests and, uh, and under Trump's

01:00:19.560 vision, uh, the Republicans are really trying to benefit the general welfare, the true meaning

01:00:26.480 of that term. And that's a huge, that's a huge shift to win that. Uh, believe me, when I was a kid

01:00:33.420 and, and, and younger, uh, that absolutely was not the case. Uh, but I think, I think the,

01:00:39.240 I think Trump's winning that rhetorical battle, at least for right now.

01:00:43.920 And herb seasoning again says beans and chili. Yes or no. Glad you're bringing only the most

01:00:48.800 important questions herb. Uh, so I'm not a big chili guy, but I will say, uh, for me,

01:00:54.100 when it comes to beans, I'm more of them as an accent, uh, than a main, uh, thing. So if it's like,

01:00:59.700 you know, yellow rice and beans, I don't want the equal portion of beans. I want like just a little,

01:01:04.280 you know, like a, uh, a hint of them over there, you know, livening up the dish. Uh, so if you,

01:01:09.020 if you have a few beans in the chili, that's fine. But when you get like the full can in there,

01:01:12.780 when it's half the bite, uh, I'm out, I'm not a fan. Yeah. Traditionally, Texas chili does not

01:01:17.800 have beans, but if they're spicy and firm and rare, like what Aaron's talking about, then I'm all,

01:01:24.840 you know, I think you can do a good job, do a good job with it. But, uh, you know,

01:01:29.660 I eat chili once a year, maybe my wife, my wife, my wife loves it. Uh, and she's Canadian. So

01:01:37.040 explain that the Texans are coming to pull your, uh, your, your license. I'll tell you what my

01:01:42.420 wife's family, uh, we moved them down here. Uh, they're, they're, you know, they are, uh, English,

01:01:49.480 English Canadian, and they are more, they are very Texan, very Texan. Uh, my, uh, my father-in-law

01:01:57.580 never leaves the house without his cowboy boots on and is very much one of us, if you know what I

01:02:03.160 mean. So, uh, it's pretty cool. Fantastic. All right, guys, well, we're going to go ahead and

01:02:08.720 wrap this up. Always a pleasure talking with Ron. And of course, if it's your first time

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