The Auron MacIntyre Show - The Conservative Case Against Satanic Altars

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00:00:30.340 Hey everybody, how's it going? Thanks for joining me this afternoon.

00:00:34.240 I am Oren McIntyre.

00:00:36.500 So, the day has finally come.

00:00:39.660 Things have finally gotten this bad.

00:00:42.720 The country has fallen to this low of a state

00:00:46.000 where you actually need to explain to people who are Christians

00:00:51.520 and in leadership in conservative spheres

00:00:55.020 as to why you shouldn't tolerate satanic altars in your state capitol.

00:01:02.580 I know that seems insane.

00:01:03.740 And it's not just the David French's of the world.

00:01:05.940 It was a large swath of people across the conservative sphere

00:01:10.140 wanted to make a statement about why religious toleration included monuments to the devil.

00:01:18.580 And so, I want to make it clear here that this is not a debate.

00:01:23.600 This is just true.

00:01:25.540 Satanic altars are evil.

00:01:27.380 And you should not display them in public.

00:01:30.420 You should not allow them to be displayed in public.

00:01:33.140 But I'm going to explain for conservatives who need a little bit of background,

00:01:37.940 who seem a little confused, as to how they can make the case.

00:01:41.280 What the case actually is for the conservative case

00:01:45.700 for why you need to not display satanic altars.

00:01:48.660 Because obviously, this is not something you should be doing.

00:01:51.660 This is not something that should exist in our nation.

00:01:54.760 It should not be in our public spaces.

00:01:57.660 And it, most importantly, should not be something that occurs during Christmas,

00:02:01.700 during the celebration of the birth of Christ.

00:02:05.880 Again, all of this should be super obvious.

00:02:08.880 No one would have ever needed this case to be made to them previously.

00:02:12.180 The founding fathers wouldn't need this case made to them.

00:02:15.860 None of the founding Christian people of the United States

00:02:19.140 would have been confused as to why this is a problem.

00:02:22.320 But somehow, in the year 2023, in the year of our Lord, 2023,

00:02:27.720 this is very confusing for people.

00:02:30.660 They want to say that you need to defend this on the case of religious liberty

00:02:34.460 or something like that.

00:02:35.580 The First Amendment means you have to have satanic altars

00:02:38.060 in every state house throughout America.

00:02:40.700 I'm going to explain why that understanding is wrong.

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00:04:23.140 All right, so a lot of the misunderstanding,

00:04:27.600 I think, from people on the right,

00:04:29.100 we know why people on the left

00:04:30.440 want this to be displayed.

00:04:32.940 That's not hard to figure out.

00:04:34.940 It's the people on the right that are concerning,

00:04:37.180 that are confusing in this scenario.

00:04:39.780 And I think the problem

00:04:40.860 is that a lot of people on the right

00:04:44.720 have a very progressive,

00:04:48.500 and I know that doesn't sound right,

00:04:50.240 but stay with me here for a second,

00:04:51.840 a lot of people on the right

00:04:52.500 have a very modern and progressive

00:04:54.140 understanding of the Constitution.

00:04:56.360 They really only understand the law

00:04:58.740 as it's existed in the last 20 or 30 years.

00:05:02.140 They do not understand the larger principle.

00:05:04.400 They are not dedicated to the Constitution.

00:05:08.480 They are dedicated to legalism.

00:05:11.140 They are dedicated to the idea of legal positivism.

00:05:13.560 They believe that everything is about

00:05:16.300 just arguing the minutiae of the law.

00:05:18.920 And this is really easy to get into.

00:05:20.460 You can understand how this happens.

00:05:22.460 You know, some of us are a little on the spectrum.

00:05:24.900 We understand what it is

00:05:25.920 to get stuck into a conversation

00:05:27.420 and to not think about the wider issues involved.

00:05:30.260 So I'm sympathetic to this.

00:05:32.060 I understand where this comes from.

00:05:33.460 But let me set the frame for this real quick.

00:05:35.660 So this mainly comes down to a statue.

00:05:38.400 I'm sure most of you have heard about this

00:05:40.600 at this point.

00:05:41.200 But Iowa had displays that you could have up

00:05:46.860 during kind of this season.

00:05:49.140 And because of our newfound dedication

00:05:52.180 to religious pluralism,

00:05:53.720 in the broadest possible sense,

00:05:57.020 everybody who applies for it

00:05:58.340 basically has to be allowed.

00:05:59.540 And so the Satanic Temple in Iowa decided

00:06:03.760 to put a statue up of Bahamut

00:06:08.540 in the lobby of the Iowa State Building,

00:06:13.700 the Capitol Building.

00:06:15.500 And this created the ruckus you would expect.

00:06:18.260 A lot of people did not like this.

00:06:19.800 And that's good.

00:06:20.580 It's nice that it can still cause a ruckus.

00:06:22.820 However, before I get into the particulars

00:06:25.400 of the events surrounding this,

00:06:26.500 I want to say a little bit about

00:06:28.740 kind of the importance of symbols

00:06:30.540 and statues and the sacred.

00:06:33.260 So every society organizes itself

00:06:35.800 around an idea of the sacred.

00:06:38.260 And it's really easy for people

00:06:40.540 who were brought up in this modern

00:06:42.740 and cynical age to laugh that off.

00:06:46.260 You know, it's kind of harsh to our ears.

00:06:48.840 Even people who are religious,

00:06:50.240 even people who are Christians

00:06:52.580 or are conservatives,

00:06:54.580 that language can still sound harsh

00:06:56.240 because it's been coded to us as low class.

00:06:59.780 And that's something you really got to remember.

00:07:02.360 It's really important to remember

00:07:03.920 that one of the key ways that the left has won

00:07:06.480 is coding religious language

00:07:09.040 or the interest in public religious displays

00:07:12.420 as low class,

00:07:14.420 as something that,

00:07:15.780 oh, that's stupid trailer park talk

00:07:17.920 or something like that, right?

00:07:19.340 That's the way that they have coded it.

00:07:21.900 There's a reason that every villain

00:07:23.980 and every movie,

00:07:25.620 that every backwards and toothless person

00:07:28.180 was the one who was talking about

00:07:31.200 their religious faith

00:07:32.480 or that, you know,

00:07:33.680 the need to restrict certain behaviors,

00:07:35.960 to have certain standards.

00:07:37.520 Those words were put in the mouth

00:07:38.900 of those people by Hollywood

00:07:40.700 and, you know, our culture for a reason

00:07:43.460 because they wanted to communicate the idea

00:07:45.700 and associate these ideas

00:07:47.780 with being low class.

00:07:49.720 But things are always sacred to a society.

00:07:54.020 And you can tell

00:07:54.560 because we have plenty of sacred things today.

00:07:57.580 There are certain words

00:07:58.680 that you can't use in public or online,

00:08:02.520 certain topics that you can't touch

00:08:04.360 because they're taboo,

00:08:05.780 certain rituals that you need to go through

00:08:07.960 to show that you are progressive enough,

00:08:10.780 that you're leftist enough, right?

00:08:12.520 There are certain topics

00:08:14.860 you are not allowed to talk about,

00:08:16.400 certain truths that you are not allowed to address

00:08:18.340 because we have sacred boundaries

00:08:20.440 around those topics.

00:08:22.500 So don't fool yourself

00:08:24.000 just because we have secularized,

00:08:26.240 just because we have changed some of the language

00:08:28.900 and we have removed, you know,

00:08:31.400 the holy book or the official religion

00:08:34.320 as the central part of that faith

00:08:38.260 or the sacredness.

00:08:39.180 Don't fool yourself.

00:08:40.200 There are still very many sacred things,

00:08:43.980 sacred boundaries, sacred taboos,

00:08:46.360 things you must worship,

00:08:47.560 things you must genuflect before

00:08:49.300 in our modern era.

00:08:51.480 So don't confuse the idea of religion

00:08:54.440 and kind of its removal from the public square

00:08:57.920 with thinking that the sacred is gone.

00:08:59.780 Our society is still built around an image of the sacred.

00:09:02.460 We've just shifted what it is.

00:09:04.280 Now, statues are, of course,

00:09:06.860 there's monuments that are designed to inspire reverence.

00:09:09.800 That's the whole reason you build a statue.

00:09:11.480 Oh, look at that statue.

00:09:13.160 Look what that person did

00:09:14.560 or what that group of people did

00:09:16.280 or look, you know,

00:09:17.420 that horse or that eagle,

00:09:19.300 that's a symbol of something

00:09:20.720 that has been accomplished.

00:09:22.360 They're there to inspire reverence.

00:09:25.040 And so the kinds of statues

00:09:26.320 that a civilization creates,

00:09:28.920 that they tolerate

00:09:30.100 or that they destroy

00:09:31.820 tells you a lot about the characters

00:09:33.840 or value of the people.

00:09:34.760 It tells you what they hold sacred.

00:09:36.860 If you have a statue of something,

00:09:39.780 you are probably revering that thing.

00:09:41.940 If you can't tolerate a statue of something,

00:09:44.360 then you probably despise that thing.

00:09:46.920 It triggers your disgust mechanism.

00:09:49.440 And so the things that you venerate through statues

00:09:52.720 or the things that you refuse to tolerate

00:09:54.880 by the destruction of previous monuments to them

00:09:58.000 through iconoclasm,

00:09:59.580 that tells you about the society

00:10:01.800 and what it holds sacred,

00:10:03.000 the character and values of the people.

00:10:05.320 Now, the left is, of course,

00:10:06.340 perfectly aware of this, right?

00:10:07.880 They love to make fun of the sacred.

00:10:10.420 They love to make it,

00:10:12.320 oh, how ridiculous, right?

00:10:13.740 That's one of the ways that the left

00:10:15.160 keeps you from protecting your history

00:10:16.920 or your heritage,

00:10:18.440 your religion,

00:10:19.660 your culture.

00:10:20.240 They make it ridiculous, right?

00:10:22.700 They mock the idea that you would even hold fast

00:10:26.020 to those truths, right?

00:10:27.420 They mock those things.

00:10:28.840 And that's the way that they kind of drive you away.

00:10:31.660 They shame you about you trying to protect those things.

00:10:35.080 But they understand the power of them,

00:10:37.280 which is why they've made the destruction

00:10:38.940 and replacement of statues

00:10:40.460 a central part of the Cultural Revolution, right?

00:10:42.560 When we remember the whole wokeness thing,

00:10:47.100 the modern incarnation of it, at least,

00:10:49.400 that most people think about,

00:10:50.740 started by tearing down statues.

00:10:53.260 Before there was George Floyd,

00:10:55.560 before there was all this stuff,

00:10:56.940 BLM started by tearing down statues,

00:11:00.860 demanding especially statues of Confederate generals, right?

00:11:05.120 That was the first ask,

00:11:06.420 is we have to remove Confederate generals.

00:11:08.800 If you remember, you know, the Trump,

00:11:10.720 you know, good people on both sides,

00:11:12.500 the whole Charlottesville thing,

00:11:13.500 that all started because activists were determined

00:11:16.740 to destroy every facet of history

00:11:20.240 that was connected to the Confederacy, right?

00:11:24.400 And so the destruction of Confederate generals

00:11:27.000 and their statues,

00:11:28.240 anything that was honoring the Confederacy

00:11:30.060 was key to this movement.

00:11:32.720 And to be fair,

00:11:34.440 a lot of conservative commentators

00:11:36.180 basically aided and abetted this effort.

00:11:39.000 There were a lot of conservative commentators

00:11:40.400 who said,

00:11:41.040 well, the Confederacy were losers.

00:11:42.900 The Confederacies were traitors.

00:11:44.980 And you'll notice that most of these guys

00:11:46.880 tend to live on the coast.

00:11:48.800 They probably didn't have any family

00:11:50.780 who fought in the Civil War.

00:11:54.020 You know, they tend not to be connected

00:11:55.580 to this event.

00:11:57.040 And so for them, they're conservative,

00:11:59.460 but you know,

00:12:00.280 they're not connected to all those evil people.

00:12:02.240 They're one of the good ones,

00:12:03.160 the good conservatives

00:12:03.960 who wouldn't understand or be connected

00:12:05.720 to any of those kinds of heritage.

00:12:08.620 And so instead,

00:12:10.000 they specifically say,

00:12:11.320 oh, well,

00:12:11.740 maybe we shouldn't honor these losers.

00:12:14.140 Maybe we shouldn't honor these traitors.

00:12:16.160 These statues should be put in museums.

00:12:19.220 They belong in private collections.

00:12:20.480 They shouldn't exist in public displays.

00:12:24.160 Now, of course,

00:12:24.660 that's garbage

00:12:25.640 because a lot of people forget

00:12:28.260 the purpose of a lot of these statues.

00:12:31.160 So obviously the Civil War

00:12:34.000 is a terrible thing

00:12:35.520 in the sense that

00:12:37.040 there's a massive loss of life

00:12:38.480 and it tears apart the United States.

00:12:40.960 And the reconciliation

00:12:42.900 that occurs after the Civil War

00:12:45.640 is strained.

00:12:46.420 You have reconstruction.

00:12:47.580 There's a lot of tension.

00:12:50.120 Now, in most other places,

00:12:52.060 when you have this kind of Civil War,

00:12:55.520 things don't just go back to normal, right?

00:12:57.720 You don't just have people rejoin the United States

00:13:00.660 or rejoin the country

00:13:01.680 that they were fighting against

00:13:02.900 in other countries

00:13:04.140 and just become part of them

00:13:06.240 and there's no problems, right?

00:13:07.560 You end up with insurgent militias.

00:13:10.100 You end up with people,

00:13:11.620 you know,

00:13:12.060 guerrilla fighting for decades

00:13:14.020 or maybe even a century.

00:13:16.660 Like there's longstanding conflict in animus.

00:13:20.000 There's a lot of pushback

00:13:21.180 from those that were conquered

00:13:22.900 during the Civil War

00:13:23.940 and placed back under the subjugation

00:13:25.840 of the main,

00:13:27.480 of the, like the victorious side.

00:13:29.620 That didn't happen so much

00:13:31.020 in the United States.

00:13:31.760 There was tension for sure, right?

00:13:33.400 There's the reconstruction tension

00:13:34.600 and those kind of things.

00:13:35.900 However,

00:13:36.840 a lot of the healing that occurred

00:13:39.140 came from the fact

00:13:40.780 that many parts of the United States

00:13:43.620 allowed the South to retain

00:13:45.540 a certain level of honor.

00:13:47.440 That the dead of the South

00:13:48.660 were allowed to be honored,

00:13:50.360 that memorials were built,

00:13:52.160 that grave sites were built,

00:13:54.180 and that this was allowed

00:13:56.440 to continue well into things

00:13:58.860 like, you know,

00:13:59.820 the first and second world wars.

00:14:02.840 Remember,

00:14:03.540 many of the people

00:14:04.580 who would have been alive

00:14:06.500 during, say, World War I

00:14:07.900 would have had living memory

00:14:09.600 of relatives who fought

00:14:11.740 in the Civil War, right?

00:14:13.200 So that those events

00:14:14.320 were not that far apart.

00:14:15.860 They would have remembered

00:14:17.000 people who had fought

00:14:18.260 or maybe even died

00:14:19.420 if they were old enough

00:14:20.280 in the Civil War.

00:14:21.520 And so when those cemeteries

00:14:23.540 were being out built

00:14:24.620 and those monuments

00:14:25.540 were being built,

00:14:26.160 even though some of them

00:14:27.020 weren't built until,

00:14:27.960 say, the early 1900s,

00:14:29.680 they were often still built

00:14:31.100 with this reconciliation in mind.

00:14:33.680 And that helped to heal

00:14:34.880 the country

00:14:35.500 in a way that you don't get

00:14:37.400 if you aren't allowing

00:14:38.720 these people

00:14:39.180 to maintain their honor, right?

00:14:41.120 The celebration

00:14:41.980 of the United States

00:14:42.940 coming back together

00:14:44.060 was a critical part

00:14:45.980 of the healing.

00:14:48.100 And the honoring of the dead,

00:14:49.760 even those who fought

00:14:50.460 on the other side,

00:14:51.260 understanding that they

00:14:52.180 were simply defending

00:14:53.120 their homeland

00:14:53.660 in many cases

00:14:54.660 and that they were simply

00:14:56.140 fighting for what they thought

00:14:58.220 was independence.

00:15:00.640 That was part of the healing.

00:15:02.600 But of course,

00:15:03.020 a lot of modern people,

00:15:04.100 they don't get this.

00:15:04.820 They don't understand this.

00:15:06.000 They're not tied

00:15:06.640 to this history.

00:15:07.920 And so therefore,

00:15:08.880 even many conservatives

00:15:10.060 are like, well, whatever.

00:15:11.500 You know, this is all the past.

00:15:12.660 These guys were traitors.

00:15:14.160 They were, you know,

00:15:14.740 they betrayed us.

00:15:16.400 And therefore,

00:15:17.380 it's fine to kind of forget

00:15:18.960 why we honored these people.

00:15:21.560 Of course, many people,

00:15:23.360 Donald Trump included,

00:15:24.500 said, look,

00:15:25.180 they're not going to stop

00:15:25.960 with these.

00:15:26.380 And you can remember

00:15:27.220 a lot of people

00:15:28.280 mocked Donald Trump

00:15:29.060 at the time.

00:15:29.740 Oh, he's a neo-Confederate.

00:15:31.260 You know, he's a secessionist

00:15:33.000 or whatever,

00:15:33.500 because he said, look,

00:15:34.700 they're not going to stop

00:15:35.640 with statues of Robert E. Lee.

00:15:37.580 They're going to move on.

00:15:38.660 Like this is going to continue.

00:15:40.500 It's going to get

00:15:40.940 more and more aggressive.

00:15:42.120 And of course,

00:15:42.500 he was right, right?

00:15:43.200 So the progressive mobs

00:15:44.340 start with Confederate generals,

00:15:48.220 but then they move on

00:15:49.360 to statues of people

00:15:50.620 who used to own slaves.

00:15:52.380 And then it's anybody

00:15:53.680 who's connected to slavery,

00:15:55.620 which is basically everyone

00:15:57.300 at that point in history.

00:15:58.940 And eventually,

00:15:59.460 they're just knocking

00:16:00.360 down everything, right?

00:16:01.100 They're going after

00:16:01.640 founding fathers,

00:16:02.540 removing statues

00:16:03.560 of Thomas Jefferson

00:16:04.640 and Abraham Lincoln,

00:16:07.220 the guy who headed

00:16:09.180 the Union during the Civil War.

00:16:12.080 it didn't matter

00:16:13.140 because progressives

00:16:14.760 may mock the notion

00:16:16.740 of your sacred history,

00:16:19.120 you know, traditional America

00:16:20.280 and its ties to its history,

00:16:22.320 but they understand

00:16:23.180 the importance

00:16:23.620 of destroying it, right?

00:16:24.760 They know how important

00:16:26.040 that is.

00:16:27.720 And so the left

00:16:29.200 are really clear

00:16:30.660 on the importance

00:16:31.640 of statues

00:16:32.620 and history

00:16:33.580 and memory

00:16:34.420 and what you tolerate

00:16:35.420 and what you honor.

00:16:36.560 They're perfectly aware

00:16:37.880 of the problem, right?

00:16:39.560 which is why

00:16:40.820 they make sure

00:16:42.480 that you can put up

00:16:43.980 a altar of Satan

00:16:45.160 in a state house

00:16:46.560 during Christmas, right?

00:16:47.580 That's intentional.

00:16:49.180 They know that.

00:16:50.300 They can't tolerate

00:16:51.600 the public statue

00:16:53.120 of a founding father.

00:16:55.200 They can't tolerate

00:16:56.480 a statue of Abraham Lincoln,

00:16:58.620 but they will demand

00:17:00.960 that you tolerate

00:17:02.680 a satanic altar

00:17:04.520 in your state capital.

00:17:05.960 Now, remember,

00:17:06.400 many of these statues

00:17:08.600 were ripped down

00:17:09.780 by protesters.

00:17:11.440 They were not

00:17:12.380 officially removed.

00:17:13.720 Now, today,

00:17:14.520 we've been officially removing

00:17:15.540 and I'll get into

00:17:16.580 more of that in a second,

00:17:17.700 but many of them

00:17:18.240 were not officially removed

00:17:19.420 by some kind of

00:17:20.560 bureaucratic process,

00:17:21.780 though that would still

00:17:22.440 have been evil

00:17:23.140 and still would have been wrong.

00:17:25.180 But I guess at least

00:17:26.000 the legalism

00:17:26.840 would have been fulfilled, right?

00:17:28.240 The letter of the law

00:17:29.360 and the process

00:17:30.160 would have happened

00:17:31.040 for conservatives

00:17:31.820 that fall for that kind of thing.

00:17:33.660 But they didn't even bother

00:17:34.480 with that.

00:17:34.840 Many of these statues, rather,

00:17:37.180 were removed violently

00:17:38.300 or were removed spontaneously

00:17:40.720 or removed under the power

00:17:43.940 of the protesters

00:17:44.600 and not by any official force.

00:17:47.680 But, of course,

00:17:48.200 the police stood by.

00:17:49.380 They watched.

00:17:49.980 They did nothing

00:17:50.720 because the regime

00:17:51.700 was on the side

00:17:52.500 of these people, right?

00:17:53.720 Remember this

00:17:54.640 about popular action, guys.

00:17:56.920 Popular action works

00:17:58.480 when the regime

00:17:59.340 approves of it.

00:18:00.940 Popular protests,

00:18:02.340 pulling down statues,

00:18:03.300 these things usually work

00:18:05.600 because the people

00:18:06.620 around them

00:18:07.440 agree with them, right?

00:18:09.100 They don't take action.

00:18:10.380 The police don't stop them.

00:18:11.600 Real protests,

00:18:12.760 there are consequences.

00:18:14.220 Just ask people

00:18:15.040 on January 6th.

00:18:16.600 They'll tell you

00:18:17.380 there are real consequences

00:18:18.380 for actual protests

00:18:20.260 that the regime

00:18:20.720 does not approve of.

00:18:21.700 But, of course,

00:18:22.080 they approve

00:18:22.900 of the statues

00:18:23.800 coming down.

00:18:25.060 They agreed

00:18:25.520 with all the ideology involved.

00:18:27.400 So all these college campuses

00:18:28.820 where they were tearing down

00:18:29.940 the statues of the founders,

00:18:31.080 well, the colleges

00:18:31.600 already agreed with that.

00:18:32.640 The administrators

00:18:33.300 already agreed with that.

00:18:34.220 So the police stood by.

00:18:35.620 A lot of these liberal areas

00:18:37.860 where these statues

00:18:39.540 were torn down,

00:18:40.640 they already agreed with it.

00:18:41.720 So they just stood by

00:18:42.900 and watched it happen.

00:18:45.040 And so they understand

00:18:46.760 that they're not going

00:18:48.160 to allow that to continue.

00:18:49.760 They're not going to,

00:18:50.380 or rather,

00:18:52.180 they're going to allow

00:18:52.740 those things to get pulled down.

00:18:54.120 They're not going to allow

00:18:55.020 those statues

00:18:55.920 that they disagree with

00:18:56.880 to continue to stand, right?

00:18:58.600 However, you have to,

00:19:00.940 in the name of the First Amendment,

00:19:01.960 allow a satanic altar

00:19:03.660 in the Iowa State Capitol.

00:19:05.880 Again,

00:19:06.920 the enemies of tradition,

00:19:08.500 they never miss an opportunity

00:19:09.640 to desecrate a public space.

00:19:12.520 Demoralization is the point.

00:19:14.340 They're there to make you feel bad.

00:19:16.580 They're there to make you feel defeated.

00:19:18.320 And so they want to publicly

00:19:19.320 humiliate you.

00:19:21.040 So when the satanic temple

00:19:22.640 figures out that they can,

00:19:24.080 you know,

00:19:24.540 exploit the rules

00:19:25.920 and they can go ahead

00:19:27.040 and put a statue,

00:19:28.340 a satanic altar,

00:19:29.000 in the state capitol

00:19:31.140 by exploiting the idea

00:19:32.760 of religious expression,

00:19:33.940 they're going to do that.

00:19:35.300 Now, the reason they can do that,

00:19:36.740 of course,

00:19:37.200 is that Republicans are cowards, okay?

00:19:40.480 Especially,

00:19:41.380 particularly Republican politicians.

00:19:44.060 Not all conservatives are.

00:19:46.780 There are.

00:19:47.380 We'll talk about here

00:19:48.840 what happened.

00:19:50.460 But the political leaders

00:19:53.400 that should have stood up

00:19:54.620 for their Christian faith

00:19:56.220 should have stood up

00:19:57.500 for a defense

00:19:59.680 of their public spaces

00:20:02.400 and the sacredness

00:20:03.360 of their public spaces.

00:20:04.860 They didn't.

00:20:06.080 And you had guys like

00:20:07.020 Iowa Representative John Dunwell,

00:20:09.100 who's a Republican,

00:20:10.020 of course,

00:20:11.140 and just becomes this coward.

00:20:13.180 He gets on X,

00:20:15.640 he gets on Twitter,

00:20:16.960 and he makes a post

00:20:19.000 about how he's proud

00:20:20.600 of the kind of the progress,

00:20:24.580 or he didn't call it progressive,

00:20:25.980 but the tolerant culture

00:20:27.600 that would allow,

00:20:28.880 the culture of pluralism

00:20:30.780 and tolerance

00:20:31.400 that would allow

00:20:32.360 a satanic altar

00:20:33.580 in the Iowa state capitol.

00:20:36.700 And he does something interesting, okay?

00:20:38.940 Not only does he say

00:20:40.320 that he's for this,

00:20:42.360 he also says

00:20:43.260 that to deny

00:20:44.200 this ability

00:20:45.320 to Satanists,

00:20:47.340 to deny this ability

00:20:48.240 to Satanists

00:20:48.780 would be

00:20:49.800 Christian nationalism.

00:20:51.460 And he warns about

00:20:52.020 the fear

00:20:53.320 of Christian nationalism.

00:20:54.780 I'm going to go on more

00:20:55.920 about that in detail

00:20:56.820 in a second

00:20:57.320 because I think

00:20:57.860 that's central

00:20:58.940 to why some conservative

00:21:00.720 leaders are pushing back

00:21:02.640 against opposition to this,

00:21:04.800 are saying,

00:21:05.160 no, we have to tolerate this.

00:21:06.740 I think

00:21:07.240 the narrative

00:21:08.760 of Christian nationalism

00:21:09.900 is central to this.

00:21:11.660 But again,

00:21:13.600 there's this cowardice

00:21:14.760 by the Republican politicians.

00:21:17.040 This kind of humiliation ritual

00:21:18.800 continues in the public square

00:21:21.160 until eventually

00:21:22.260 a former Navy aviator

00:21:25.080 who also,

00:21:25.880 I think,

00:21:26.500 ran for the Iowa,

00:21:29.220 as an Iowa state representative.

00:21:31.780 I don't think he won,

00:21:32.860 but he was a candidate,

00:21:34.340 a former candidate,

00:21:35.020 along with being a veteran

00:21:36.280 named Michael Cassidy.

00:21:38.840 He went in,

00:21:40.380 he beheaded the statue,

00:21:41.360 and he left it

00:21:43.000 kind of in ruins, right?

00:21:44.480 He left it in ruins.

00:21:45.520 In fact,

00:21:45.940 someone came by

00:21:46.860 and stuck a

00:21:47.700 Christ is King sticker

00:21:48.880 to the head

00:21:50.040 of the statue,

00:21:51.500 which was amazing.

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00:22:24.620 Beautiful.

00:22:26.220 Beautiful.

00:22:27.060 However,

00:22:28.300 a lot of people

00:22:29.980 got worked up

00:22:30.860 about this, right?

00:22:32.080 So,

00:22:33.580 let's talk about

00:22:35.200 why people

00:22:36.980 fall for this.

00:22:38.840 Why did so many

00:22:39.660 conservative leaders

00:22:40.860 think that

00:22:42.340 they needed to

00:22:44.140 denounce the actions

00:22:45.400 of Cassidy?

00:22:46.540 Now, to be clear,

00:22:47.500 Dunwell's post

00:22:48.400 on Twitter

00:22:49.660 came before

00:22:50.900 Cassidy's action.

00:22:52.800 That was just

00:22:54.200 cowardice

00:22:54.860 for the sake

00:22:55.940 of cowardice,

00:22:56.600 right?

00:22:56.800 Just to get out there

00:22:58.020 and virtue signal

00:22:58.820 even before there

00:23:00.200 was any pressure

00:23:00.820 to get out ahead

00:23:01.780 and denounce

00:23:02.520 Christian nationalism

00:23:03.800 and show your

00:23:05.180 tolerance and how

00:23:06.120 this is all part

00:23:07.000 of the First Amendment

00:23:08.380 and the rule of law

00:23:09.460 and all these things.

00:23:10.660 But after

00:23:12.300 Cassidy's action,

00:23:13.660 I mean,

00:23:13.840 you would have

00:23:14.160 expected,

00:23:15.120 okay,

00:23:15.440 well,

00:23:15.680 I mean,

00:23:15.980 obviously,

00:23:16.860 religious Christians

00:23:17.700 are going to be like,

00:23:18.280 okay, man,

00:23:19.120 maybe I worry

00:23:20.940 about the

00:23:21.760 ramifications

00:23:23.160 about the law

00:23:24.620 or that kind of thing,

00:23:25.540 but given

00:23:26.280 the context

00:23:27.300 and the moment,

00:23:28.460 I understand

00:23:29.100 why you're there.

00:23:29.860 You think there would

00:23:30.440 have been that response

00:23:31.600 on the right

00:23:31.940 and then the left

00:23:32.500 would have been

00:23:32.860 the ones losing

00:23:33.640 their minds.

00:23:34.560 But, of course,

00:23:34.940 the left did lose

00:23:35.700 their minds

00:23:36.100 and that is rich,

00:23:37.060 right?

00:23:37.280 Because they're the ones

00:23:38.100 tearing down statues.

00:23:39.240 They are the ones

00:23:40.560 who are destroying

00:23:42.620 these monuments,

00:23:43.800 again,

00:23:44.280 against all law,

00:23:45.420 all rule of law,

00:23:46.840 tearing them down.

00:23:47.880 I mean,

00:23:48.000 now they have,

00:23:49.360 they're compelling

00:23:50.180 people to remove them.

00:23:51.240 They actually have

00:23:52.020 the state power

00:23:53.160 to remove them.

00:23:54.760 But, you know,

00:23:55.640 initially they were

00:23:56.700 tearing them down

00:23:57.420 on their own.

00:23:58.260 It was their own movement,

00:23:59.160 that kind of thing,

00:23:59.760 right?

00:24:00.760 And then,

00:24:01.820 but, of course,

00:24:03.020 they lost their mind

00:24:04.020 when Cassidy does it

00:24:05.960 because it's different

00:24:06.880 when the right does it.

00:24:08.080 It's not okay.

00:24:09.500 But what's interesting

00:24:10.460 is the number

00:24:11.180 of people on the right,

00:24:12.360 the number of people

00:24:13.020 who are Christians,

00:24:14.280 the number of people

00:24:14.860 who are supposed

00:24:15.540 to be Republicans,

00:24:17.140 conservative leaders

00:24:18.040 who had an outcry.

00:24:19.780 You had people

00:24:20.340 like James Lindsay

00:24:21.480 declaring, you know,

00:24:22.200 because everything

00:24:22.980 is fascism.

00:24:24.180 James Lindsay

00:24:24.720 is a cartoon.

00:24:29.480 MSNBC

00:24:29.880 calls everything

00:24:31.080 fascism,

00:24:31.780 but James Lindsay

00:24:32.420 might be,

00:24:33.320 he might be catching up.

00:24:34.860 I think he might be

00:24:35.760 making up for lost time,

00:24:37.500 accusing literally

00:24:38.560 every breathing human

00:24:40.080 of fascism

00:24:41.880 every 10 seconds.

00:24:43.220 Oh, are you questioning

00:24:44.060 anything that I say?

00:24:45.600 Are you taking any action

00:24:47.020 of any kind?

00:24:47.880 Probably a fascist.

00:24:49.620 But so he was whining about it.

00:24:51.360 A bunch of people

00:24:51.940 were whining about it

00:24:53.380 online.

00:24:55.300 And so I want to talk

00:24:56.160 a little bit about

00:24:57.240 like why,

00:24:58.800 so I guess I want to make

00:24:59.880 the conservative case.

00:25:01.240 So here it is.

00:25:01.860 Here's the conservative case

00:25:03.400 for why you should

00:25:05.540 oppose

00:25:06.860 satanic

00:25:07.660 satanic

00:25:09.360 altars.

00:25:10.020 And again,

00:25:10.720 we shouldn't have to make

00:25:12.140 this astonishing

00:25:12.980 that we do,

00:25:13.720 but here we go.

00:25:14.920 Here's the conservative case

00:25:16.240 for why

00:25:17.100 you actually do

00:25:18.260 have to,

00:25:19.080 you actually do have to

00:25:20.560 oppose

00:25:20.960 satanic statues.

00:25:22.440 All right,

00:25:22.620 so you can't fall

00:25:23.940 for progressive distortions

00:25:25.100 of founding principles,

00:25:26.060 guys.

00:25:27.080 You,

00:25:27.540 especially as a conservative

00:25:29.100 leader,

00:25:29.660 if you're billing yourself

00:25:30.620 as a conservative leader,

00:25:31.460 and I think some of these

00:25:32.400 people aren't.

00:25:33.320 I think certain people

00:25:34.200 who like to put themselves

00:25:36.440 in that position

00:25:37.240 and even show up

00:25:39.080 to large conservative

00:25:40.180 conferences

00:25:40.660 are just,

00:25:41.860 you know,

00:25:42.240 are not.

00:25:43.280 However,

00:25:44.320 I think there are some

00:25:45.580 genuinely conservative

00:25:46.580 people or,

00:25:47.520 you know,

00:25:48.700 people who call themselves

00:25:49.460 Christians and Republicans

00:25:50.480 who say,

00:25:52.360 oh,

00:25:52.460 no,

00:25:52.680 this is part of religious liberty.

00:25:54.380 Of course we have to

00:25:55.720 defend this.

00:25:56.960 Guys,

00:25:57.520 you have to stop

00:25:58.580 being misled

00:25:59.480 by progressives.

00:26:00.600 You cannot

00:26:01.100 listen to progressive

00:26:02.280 arguments

00:26:02.840 and take them on board

00:26:03.960 as your own values

00:26:04.860 just because

00:26:05.660 they managed to

00:26:07.020 get that into a court ruling

00:26:08.420 or even into law

00:26:09.760 doesn't mean it's correct.

00:26:11.320 Okay,

00:26:11.460 you cannot engage.

00:26:12.740 You cannot be enslaved

00:26:13.580 to legalism.

00:26:14.740 Okay,

00:26:15.120 that doesn't mean

00:26:16.380 that the law

00:26:17.280 is not important.

00:26:17.920 It is,

00:26:18.240 of course,

00:26:18.460 important.

00:26:18.820 The letter of the law

00:26:19.400 does matter.

00:26:20.880 But you have to remember

00:26:21.560 what the spirit

00:26:22.340 of the law is.

00:26:23.600 And most importantly,

00:26:24.320 you cannot be completely

00:26:25.160 cowed by the left's

00:26:26.240 ability to manipulate law.

00:26:27.980 Okay,

00:26:28.200 you have to,

00:26:28.900 because they're not,

00:26:29.900 that they do

00:26:31.600 what they want

00:26:32.560 when they want it

00:26:33.360 and then they wield

00:26:34.440 the law,

00:26:35.100 right?

00:26:35.400 That's,

00:26:36.080 they do it

00:26:36.660 after the fact.

00:26:37.920 And obviously,

00:26:38.760 you may not be

00:26:39.460 in that position.

00:26:40.220 The tactics

00:26:40.740 might not be

00:26:41.660 for the same,

00:26:42.260 the same for the right.

00:26:43.080 I'm not advocating

00:26:43.920 necessarily for that

00:26:45.160 in all these situations.

00:26:46.460 It's very,

00:26:47.640 it is,

00:26:49.140 context is really important.

00:26:50.640 It depends on the situation.

00:26:52.080 However,

00:26:52.440 you cannot be enslaved

00:26:53.440 to this idea

00:26:54.340 because the left is not.

00:26:55.840 Okay,

00:26:56.240 and you should not

00:26:57.280 be completely beholden

00:26:59.080 to the fact

00:26:59.840 that these people

00:27:00.460 manipulated a procedure

00:27:01.560 and now you just have

00:27:03.420 to listen to everything

00:27:04.500 they say.

00:27:05.140 That's not actually

00:27:05.840 how this works.

00:27:07.000 All right,

00:27:07.340 so what's the argument

00:27:09.100 against conservatives

00:27:10.620 adopting what is

00:27:12.500 a extremely modern

00:27:13.820 understanding

00:27:14.560 of religious liberty?

00:27:17.360 Okay,

00:27:17.680 here's the thing.

00:27:19.300 Any civilization

00:27:19.960 has to prefer

00:27:21.200 its own culture

00:27:22.400 and history

00:27:23.180 to survive.

00:27:24.340 Okay,

00:27:24.740 that's just the case.

00:27:26.580 You must give

00:27:27.960 a preference

00:27:28.820 to your own

00:27:30.680 history and culture.

00:27:31.600 If you don't give

00:27:32.540 a preference

00:27:33.280 to your own

00:27:33.660 history and culture,

00:27:34.280 you don't have one.

00:27:35.640 Your culture will die.

00:27:37.120 It will be drowned out

00:27:37.940 by those who give

00:27:38.500 a preference to theirs.

00:27:40.040 I'm sorry,

00:27:40.860 but the marketplace

00:27:41.820 of ideas

00:27:42.460 is more of a

00:27:43.180 battlefield of ideas.

00:27:44.760 And people are not

00:27:45.800 going to just sit there

00:27:46.820 and say,

00:27:47.320 oh, well,

00:27:47.720 you know what?

00:27:48.400 That is the best thing

00:27:49.680 and therefore,

00:27:50.420 no,

00:27:50.960 they're going to fight.

00:27:52.820 The side that wants

00:27:53.440 to win

00:27:53.960 is going to beat

00:27:54.940 the side that just

00:27:55.760 wants to be left

00:27:56.540 alone and do

00:27:57.100 their own thing

00:27:57.780 and have their

00:27:58.300 own identity

00:27:58.900 and their own

00:27:59.320 culture and their

00:27:59.820 own beliefs.

00:28:00.780 I wish that was

00:28:01.820 the case.

00:28:02.240 Me too.

00:28:02.580 In a perfect world,

00:28:03.240 that's exactly how

00:28:04.080 life would be.

00:28:05.300 But it's not.

00:28:06.420 And if you live

00:28:07.080 your life believing

00:28:08.020 that it is,

00:28:08.860 you're a fool

00:28:09.420 and you're going

00:28:09.940 to be conquered.

00:28:11.040 Okay?

00:28:11.480 You must prefer

00:28:12.620 your own culture.

00:28:13.580 You must prefer

00:28:14.320 your own history.

00:28:15.420 You must prefer

00:28:16.280 your own religion.

00:28:17.540 You must prefer

00:28:18.140 your own way of life

00:28:19.220 if your nation

00:28:20.600 is going to survive,

00:28:21.400 especially in our

00:28:23.180 modern scenario

00:28:23.940 where we have

00:28:24.480 large-scale immigration,

00:28:25.840 people coming from

00:28:26.400 other cultures,

00:28:27.420 other way of life,

00:28:28.420 other belief systems.

00:28:30.420 It is essential

00:28:31.500 that you preserve

00:28:32.700 your identity,

00:28:34.460 your culture,

00:28:35.060 your history,

00:28:35.620 your way of life

00:28:36.340 by preferring it.

00:28:37.640 The United States

00:28:38.460 is a Protestant

00:28:39.860 Christian nation.

00:28:41.040 That doesn't mean

00:28:42.040 that Catholics

00:28:43.480 can't be here.

00:28:44.140 That doesn't mean

00:28:44.480 that Orthodox Christians

00:28:45.360 can't be here.

00:28:46.240 I have many friends

00:28:46.940 who are Catholics

00:28:47.460 and Orthodox Christians.

00:28:48.760 I love them.

00:28:49.620 I value them.

00:28:50.340 They are my brothers

00:28:50.900 in Christ.

00:28:52.080 However,

00:28:53.000 the character

00:28:53.740 of the nation

00:28:55.840 from its beginning

00:28:56.640 has been Protestant.

00:28:58.080 Yes, Catholics

00:28:58.900 were here.

00:28:59.460 I understand.

00:29:00.200 I'm not saying

00:29:00.620 they weren't.

00:29:01.840 There are other people

00:29:02.620 who practice

00:29:03.180 other religions

00:29:03.780 who are here.

00:29:04.320 We'll get into that

00:29:04.820 in a second.

00:29:06.160 But Protestant Christianity

00:29:07.280 is the character

00:29:08.380 of the nation.

00:29:09.280 It's baked into

00:29:10.260 the United States

00:29:11.100 at its core.

00:29:12.460 That means that

00:29:13.360 you must have

00:29:14.420 a preference

00:29:15.140 for that culture

00:29:17.340 and that structure.

00:29:18.540 Now, again,

00:29:19.420 that doesn't mean

00:29:20.060 that other forms

00:29:21.320 of Christianity

00:29:21.820 and even other

00:29:22.920 great religions

00:29:23.640 to some extent

00:29:24.360 can't be practiced

00:29:25.280 in the United States.

00:29:27.100 You can have

00:29:28.020 some level

00:29:28.940 of Islamic practice

00:29:30.020 or Judaism,

00:29:32.020 those kind of things.

00:29:33.300 But the culture

00:29:35.000 will be primarily

00:29:36.780 Protestant Christian

00:29:37.900 and that will be

00:29:39.160 the kind of holidays

00:29:39.960 that it celebrates

00:29:40.780 and those will be

00:29:41.680 the kind of rituals

00:29:44.240 and culture

00:29:45.060 and beliefs

00:29:46.260 that it will honor.

00:29:47.340 that has to be

00:29:48.560 the primary identity

00:29:49.540 of the United States.

00:29:50.420 If you don't prefer it,

00:29:51.620 you will lose it.

00:29:52.660 Okay?

00:29:53.440 The Founding Fathers

00:29:54.160 would have totally

00:29:54.780 understood that.

00:29:55.720 That would not have

00:29:56.340 been confusing to them.

00:29:57.360 You would not need

00:29:58.100 that complaint explained to them.

00:30:00.780 Now, let's talk

00:30:01.320 about satanic altars.

00:30:03.740 Satanism is not

00:30:05.460 a long-standing

00:30:06.140 faith tradition.

00:30:07.000 Okay?

00:30:07.220 It's not an alternate

00:30:08.960 Christian sect.

00:30:10.360 It's not another

00:30:12.100 denomination

00:30:12.680 of Christianity

00:30:13.400 who has some

00:30:14.620 doctoral disagreements

00:30:16.100 with you

00:30:16.500 but is still largely

00:30:17.520 trying to pursue

00:30:18.580 Christ and his message.

00:30:20.800 It's not even another

00:30:21.820 long-standing faith

00:30:22.700 tradition like Islam

00:30:24.480 or Judaism

00:30:26.200 or Buddhism

00:30:26.800 or something

00:30:27.420 that has a history

00:30:28.500 of genuinely

00:30:29.780 seeking to commune

00:30:31.280 with the holy,

00:30:32.060 with the divine.

00:30:33.020 And to be clear,

00:30:33.720 I think those religions

00:30:34.740 are false.

00:30:35.740 I think that Christianity

00:30:36.720 is true.

00:30:37.920 That is my religion.

00:30:39.140 I believe Christ

00:30:40.740 is king

00:30:42.080 and that

00:30:43.500 that has to be

00:30:44.560 preferred above others.

00:30:45.400 However,

00:30:46.100 those faith traditions

00:30:47.080 at least are pursuing

00:30:48.980 a real connection

00:30:51.180 with the holy,

00:30:52.180 with the divine.

00:30:52.860 And it is usually

00:30:53.440 understood

00:30:53.860 that there is a

00:30:56.220 value

00:30:56.960 because Christianity

00:30:58.260 is not trying to

00:30:58.940 force people

00:30:59.740 directly

00:31:00.480 under any kind of,

00:31:02.200 you know,

00:31:02.400 whatever people throw

00:31:03.400 around about

00:31:03.940 Christian nationalism.

00:31:04.900 You are looking

00:31:05.920 for real conversions,

00:31:07.780 sincere conversions.

00:31:08.620 Those are the only ones

00:31:09.380 that matter.

00:31:10.540 And so,

00:31:11.000 if people are seeking

00:31:12.500 a commune

00:31:13.340 with the divine

00:31:14.300 through other

00:31:15.440 long-standing faith

00:31:16.280 traditions,

00:31:17.260 okay,

00:31:18.380 that's something

00:31:18.840 that could possibly

00:31:19.760 be practiced

00:31:20.400 in the United States,

00:31:21.800 right?

00:31:22.500 Satanism cannot.

00:31:23.960 That is not

00:31:24.960 what that is.

00:31:25.600 That is not

00:31:25.960 a legitimate

00:31:26.520 faith tradition.

00:31:27.960 It's not

00:31:28.420 a real search

00:31:30.300 for communing

00:31:31.220 with the holy.

00:31:32.480 It's just a bunch

00:31:33.240 of Reddit atheists,

00:31:34.360 right?

00:31:34.580 That's the whole thing.

00:31:35.580 And they love to do this.

00:31:36.760 They're like,

00:31:37.120 oh,

00:31:37.360 we're not really

00:31:38.240 Satanists.

00:31:39.060 You know,

00:31:39.220 we just like to,

00:31:41.340 we don't believe

00:31:41.940 in any religion.

00:31:42.780 And so,

00:31:43.300 therefore,

00:31:44.140 we're going to go ahead

00:31:45.280 and have this altar

00:31:46.840 because it doesn't

00:31:47.480 really matter.

00:31:48.020 We're not really

00:31:48.720 summoning evil.

00:31:49.520 We're not really

00:31:49.960 honoring evil

00:31:50.540 because we don't

00:31:51.000 believe in evil.

00:31:52.060 So,

00:31:52.420 it's not a real thing.

00:31:53.660 You don't have

00:31:53.940 to worry about it.

00:31:54.980 Of course,

00:31:55.260 they're idiots

00:31:55.860 because,

00:31:56.600 of course,

00:31:56.880 evil is real.

00:31:58.220 And the only thing

00:31:59.240 they've done

00:31:59.740 by not believing

00:32:00.640 in evil

00:32:01.100 is just open

00:32:02.000 themselves up

00:32:02.640 to being servants

00:32:03.560 of it.

00:32:03.880 I want to be

00:32:04.160 really clear.

00:32:04.620 There is no

00:32:05.840 ironic Satan.

00:32:07.800 That's not a thing.

00:32:08.960 Okay?

00:32:09.580 Oh,

00:32:09.840 I'm too clever

00:32:10.480 to believe in religion.

00:32:11.780 I'm not really

00:32:12.400 serving Satan.

00:32:13.980 Yes,

00:32:14.180 you are.

00:32:15.800 Yes,

00:32:16.220 you are.

00:32:16.600 The devil's best trick

00:32:17.680 is getting you

00:32:18.260 to believe he doesn't exist

00:32:19.240 because then

00:32:20.260 there's nothing

00:32:21.040 to worry about,

00:32:21.760 right?

00:32:21.940 You don't really

00:32:22.780 have to deal with it

00:32:23.680 because I'll tell you this.

00:32:24.880 I know a lot of people

00:32:26.140 who used to be atheists

00:32:27.660 or a lot of people

00:32:28.260 who used to be agnostic

00:32:29.880 who became

00:32:30.600 religious

00:32:31.320 or specifically Christian

00:32:33.000 first because they

00:32:35.000 learned that evil

00:32:36.040 was real

00:32:36.440 because if you

00:32:38.820 realize that evil

00:32:39.560 is real

00:32:40.060 then you have

00:32:41.900 to acknowledge

00:32:42.780 that there is

00:32:43.440 a metaphysical

00:32:44.120 reality

00:32:44.700 that it's not

00:32:46.020 just about

00:32:46.660 the physical

00:32:47.520 stuff you can

00:32:48.200 touch,

00:32:48.580 right?

00:32:49.220 That there

00:32:49.680 is real truth

00:32:50.720 that's beyond

00:32:51.860 your ability

00:32:52.960 to see

00:32:53.500 and touch

00:32:54.300 and hear

00:32:55.080 and taste

00:32:55.620 and once you

00:32:56.580 acknowledge that

00:32:57.680 because you have

00:32:59.120 observed true evil

00:33:00.340 that opens you up

00:33:02.360 to the observation

00:33:03.920 that there's

00:33:04.480 true good

00:33:05.040 and many people

00:33:06.760 come to religion

00:33:08.040 many people

00:33:08.600 come to Christ

00:33:09.220 because they

00:33:10.800 recognize

00:33:11.460 the reality

00:33:12.680 of evil

00:33:13.100 so yeah

00:33:14.300 you can definitely

00:33:16.120 serve evil

00:33:16.820 you can definitely

00:33:17.360 serve Satan

00:33:17.920 by not believing

00:33:18.840 him

00:33:19.160 by saying

00:33:20.320 oh well

00:33:20.800 that's not real

00:33:21.440 and so therefore

00:33:22.440 I can do all the

00:33:23.960 things that

00:33:24.640 a Satanist would do

00:33:25.580 but it's not real

00:33:26.480 it doesn't really count

00:33:27.180 yes it does

00:33:27.660 yes it does

00:33:28.980 and so

00:33:30.500 when this is

00:33:31.660 happening

00:33:32.080 right

00:33:32.380 yeah the

00:33:32.860 atheist believes

00:33:34.180 that they're

00:33:34.680 they're

00:33:35.480 they're tricking

00:33:36.340 everyone

00:33:36.800 but they're only

00:33:37.500 tricking themselves

00:33:38.140 at the end of the day

00:33:39.480 however

00:33:40.100 the point is

00:33:41.140 that religious liberty

00:33:42.440 doesn't exist

00:33:43.780 to protect

00:33:44.940 atheists

00:33:46.280 who want to troll

00:33:47.160 a bunch of people

00:33:48.440 right

00:33:48.700 that's not the purpose

00:33:49.500 of religious liberty

00:33:50.320 yes it's in the

00:33:51.700 constitution

00:33:52.340 but it's there

00:33:53.240 so people with

00:33:54.200 real faith traditions

00:33:55.380 with a real interest

00:33:56.580 in seeking the divine

00:33:57.500 can do so in their

00:33:58.700 own way

00:33:59.260 it's not there

00:34:00.320 for people to troll

00:34:01.500 and destroy

00:34:02.200 the public

00:34:03.560 expression

00:34:04.840 of religion

00:34:06.160 which is what

00:34:06.660 this actually does

00:34:07.520 once you allow

00:34:09.040 people to put up

00:34:10.360 this stuff

00:34:10.960 that mocks religion

00:34:12.060 when you allow

00:34:13.460 them to exploit this

00:34:14.660 then they degrade

00:34:15.960 the expression

00:34:16.820 of religion

00:34:17.400 they degrade

00:34:18.840 the expression

00:34:19.420 of the holy

00:34:19.820 and the divine

00:34:20.400 that's not the purpose

00:34:22.060 of freedom of religion

00:34:23.180 that's not the purpose

00:34:24.620 of free expression

00:34:25.540 that's not why

00:34:26.820 it exists

00:34:27.480 it exists

00:34:28.720 so that people

00:34:29.380 can make their own

00:34:30.240 decision on how

00:34:30.880 to pursue

00:34:31.500 and how to worship

00:34:32.680 and experience

00:34:34.000 the divine

00:34:34.600 it's not there

00:34:35.400 for people

00:34:35.760 to mock

00:34:36.360 and deride it

00:34:37.040 and make

00:34:37.560 public expressions

00:34:38.560 meaningless

00:34:39.140 and it certainly

00:34:39.920 doesn't mean

00:34:40.580 that you have

00:34:41.740 to allow

00:34:42.300 a literal monument

00:34:43.560 to evil

00:34:44.100 inside the state

00:34:45.320 capital

00:34:45.700 that's insane

00:34:46.740 look

00:34:47.440 constitutional

00:34:48.560 conservatives

00:34:49.200 and christians

00:34:50.700 nothing in your

00:34:52.400 doctrine requires

00:34:53.240 you to tolerate

00:34:53.920 a satanic altar

00:34:54.660 i'm going to say

00:34:55.440 that again

00:34:55.880 neither constitutional

00:34:57.380 conservatism

00:34:58.400 nor christianity

00:34:59.600 require you to

00:35:00.460 tolerate a satanic

00:35:01.620 altar

00:35:01.940 and the fact that

00:35:03.180 many conservative

00:35:04.160 leaders would even

00:35:05.100 entertain the idea

00:35:06.480 speaks to how

00:35:07.360 vulnerable the right

00:35:08.140 is to legalism

00:35:09.300 it shows you

00:35:10.440 how gullible

00:35:11.260 our leaders can be

00:35:12.800 when it comes to

00:35:13.900 having their devotion

00:35:15.540 to legalism

00:35:17.580 exploited

00:35:18.440 because they think

00:35:19.660 the constitution

00:35:20.200 is just a set

00:35:21.460 of words

00:35:21.740 on paper

00:35:22.260 but it's not

00:35:23.340 just a set

00:35:23.780 of words

00:35:24.080 on paper

00:35:24.540 those set

00:35:25.380 of words

00:35:25.740 on paper

00:35:26.200 mean something

00:35:27.840 because they're

00:35:28.240 connected to a

00:35:28.980 tradition

00:35:29.380 this is something

00:35:30.880 that conservatives

00:35:31.480 get wrong

00:35:32.040 and that

00:35:32.680 the left

00:35:33.220 gets right

00:35:33.700 sorry

00:35:34.620 i'm going to

00:35:34.980 make some

00:35:35.220 people angry

00:35:35.660 here

00:35:35.980 strap in

00:35:37.200 the constitution

00:35:39.120 is a living

00:35:39.740 document

00:35:40.240 it is

00:35:42.180 because

00:35:43.620 it's always

00:35:44.420 being interpreted

00:35:45.120 it has to be

00:35:46.220 interpreted

00:35:46.600 now you might

00:35:47.060 say oh i want

00:35:47.600 an interpretation

00:35:48.060 that's faithful

00:35:48.880 to the original

00:35:49.900 well me too

00:35:50.660 but guess what

00:35:51.420 that means you

00:35:51.780 have to understand

00:35:52.240 what the original

00:35:52.700 meant

00:35:53.140 everything is

00:35:54.460 contextual

00:35:55.000 everything is

00:35:57.400 born in context

00:35:58.560 those words only

00:35:59.240 mean things if you

00:36:00.060 understand the

00:36:00.520 culture and the

00:36:01.100 values from which

00:36:01.760 they arose

00:36:02.400 and if you lose

00:36:03.960 the culture and

00:36:04.540 values from which

00:36:05.780 they arose the

00:36:06.560 words don't mean

00:36:07.520 what they meant

00:36:08.140 when they were

00:36:08.600 written they mean

00:36:09.120 something else

00:36:09.800 i'm sorry to get

00:36:11.940 post-modern on you

00:36:13.160 but words are just

00:36:14.520 symbols they

00:36:15.600 communicate ideas

00:36:16.740 and ideas are

00:36:17.540 alive and active

00:36:18.280 and growing

00:36:18.740 they're changing

00:36:20.200 all the time

00:36:20.940 and you'll know

00:36:23.380 this if you've

00:36:23.860 ever studied

00:36:24.420 say a dead

00:36:25.060 language

00:36:25.520 if you study

00:36:26.700 something like

00:36:27.260 latin you'll

00:36:28.500 understand that

00:36:29.160 many of the

00:36:29.720 concepts in

00:36:30.600 latin don't

00:36:31.440 graft in to

00:36:32.600 modern day

00:36:33.420 expressions because

00:36:35.140 they didn't have

00:36:35.720 those concepts

00:36:36.360 back then you

00:36:36.940 can't just take

00:36:37.860 latin and slap

00:36:39.160 it on to the

00:36:40.180 modern world i

00:36:40.840 mean you can do

00:36:41.200 your best like

00:36:42.000 yeah if you do

00:36:42.920 like duolingo in

00:36:43.940 latin they'll try

00:36:44.880 to like take

00:36:45.700 pieces of it and

00:36:46.580 and kind of mold it

00:36:47.620 into something

00:36:48.180 new but again

00:36:49.540 that's breaking

00:36:51.220 it out of its

00:36:51.760 original context

00:36:52.640 and turning it

00:36:53.480 into a living

00:36:54.500 language again

00:36:55.200 so that those

00:36:56.380 those ideas are

00:36:57.580 open and moldable

00:36:58.460 again they don't

00:36:59.440 just say frozen

00:37:00.240 in time okay

00:37:01.500 and the

00:37:02.980 constitution is the

00:37:03.780 same way if

00:37:05.220 you don't

00:37:06.660 understand that it

00:37:07.400 has to be tied to

00:37:08.400 the tradition and

00:37:09.480 that tradition has

00:37:10.100 to be alive in

00:37:12.200 our modern day for

00:37:13.500 the words to mean

00:37:14.260 anything then you

00:37:15.280 don't understand what

00:37:15.920 constitutions actually

00:37:17.140 do you think

00:37:18.500 they're just

00:37:18.940 documents that get

00:37:19.940 written down and

00:37:20.900 then they're set in

00:37:21.520 stone in perpetuity

00:37:22.480 that's not how it

00:37:23.780 works constitutions

00:37:25.160 are reflections of

00:37:27.040 the culture the

00:37:27.940 people the folk

00:37:28.980 ways the traditions

00:37:30.000 the ways of being

00:37:31.480 of the people who

00:37:32.240 wrote them and if

00:37:33.580 you continue that

00:37:34.740 line that great

00:37:35.660 shade of being that

00:37:37.220 tradition then you

00:37:38.680 can live in those

00:37:39.340 ideas too and the

00:37:40.220 words will mean the

00:37:40.900 same thing to you

00:37:41.580 but if you don't then

00:37:43.380 they just get

00:37:43.820 manipulated and

00:37:44.520 that's what's

00:37:44.960 happening here is

00:37:46.260 conservatives are

00:37:47.480 living by the

00:37:48.600 letter of law that

00:37:50.240 has been manipulated

00:37:51.000 and created by

00:37:52.340 progressives something

00:37:53.800 that no founding

00:37:55.720 father met that no

00:37:57.140 christian around

00:37:58.500 during the time of

00:37:59.540 the the reading of

00:38:00.440 the concert or the

00:38:00.980 writing of the

00:38:01.380 constitution would

00:38:02.420 have believed they

00:38:03.560 believe these

00:38:04.020 radically progressive

00:38:05.400 versions and

00:38:06.840 interpretations that

00:38:08.480 they think oh well

00:38:09.180 that's just how it

00:38:09.820 is no that's how

00:38:10.460 that wasn't what how

00:38:11.700 it was until the

00:38:12.500 1950s or the

00:38:13.460 1970s or the

00:38:14.640 1990s even in

00:38:16.240 some cases you're

00:38:17.420 just taking

00:38:17.860 progressive readings

00:38:18.820 leftist readings and

00:38:20.000 you're turning them

00:38:20.560 into the conservative

00:38:21.560 thing you're defending

00:38:22.220 which is like the

00:38:23.360 most conservative

00:38:24.300 thing to do

00:38:25.100 unfortunately right

00:38:26.320 so I talked a

00:38:29.300 little bit about

00:38:29.940 misunderstanding the

00:38:31.620 legalism aspect but

00:38:32.780 I think another

00:38:33.500 reason why this had

00:38:35.980 the dust up that it

00:38:37.120 did is a lot of

00:38:38.180 people are wanting

00:38:39.140 to make their case

00:38:40.280 against christian

00:38:41.160 nationalists a lot

00:38:42.480 of people are

00:38:43.060 wanting to virtue

00:38:44.480 signal against the

00:38:45.480 idea of christian

00:38:46.140 nationalism it's the

00:38:46.840 big bad boogeyman

00:38:47.820 it's james lindsey

00:38:49.400 christian nationalists

00:38:50.180 are hiding in his

00:38:50.760 closet all the time

00:38:51.560 right and so the

00:38:53.200 like christian

00:38:53.640 nationalism is the

00:38:54.420 is the next evil

00:38:55.420 thing that's going to

00:38:56.360 snap back and it's

00:38:57.220 it's the ultimate

00:38:57.900 evil uh right-wing

00:39:00.220 thing that's that's

00:39:01.100 going to be the

00:39:01.520 overreaction from what

00:39:02.700 the woke people are

00:39:03.780 doing it's going to

00:39:04.320 be the right version

00:39:05.560 of wokeness and it's

00:39:07.100 going to sweep through

00:39:07.820 the country a couple

00:39:09.340 things on this first

00:39:10.740 the you don't need

00:39:13.660 to do the work of

00:39:14.500 your of the enemy

00:39:15.580 for you okay now

00:39:17.060 i don't agree with

00:39:18.960 the title christian

00:39:19.820 nationalism and i'll

00:39:20.560 explain why in a

00:39:21.280 second but even if i

00:39:22.800 don't agree with the

00:39:23.520 title of that we

00:39:24.760 should take on the

00:39:25.680 title of christian

00:39:26.680 nationalism that

00:39:28.280 doesn't mean you

00:39:28.840 need to attribute all

00:39:29.960 these evil things to

00:39:30.680 christian nationalism

00:39:31.300 for the left if

00:39:32.600 you're a right-wing

00:39:33.140 leader okay you don't

00:39:34.000 need to make a

00:39:34.680 character of christian

00:39:36.060 nationalism the left

00:39:36.940 is already doing

00:39:37.860 that okay so when

00:39:39.460 you're playing up

00:39:40.300 cassidy's action is

00:39:41.480 like the most ominous

00:39:42.760 demonstration of

00:39:43.880 horrific acts that

00:39:44.960 christian nationalism

00:39:45.700 will inspire you're

00:39:47.660 just doing that to

00:39:48.520 counter signal people

00:39:50.220 to your right and

00:39:50.980 say oh i'm one of

00:39:51.580 the good ones i'm a

00:39:52.400 safe conservative

00:39:53.160 don't have to worry

00:39:53.900 about me boy i'm on

00:39:55.460 i'm on your side i

00:39:56.700 mean i mean i'm not

00:39:57.520 on your side i'm i'm

00:39:58.900 a conservative i'm on

00:39:59.940 the right but i'm a

00:40:00.820 good one you don't

00:40:01.340 have to worry you don't

00:40:01.860 have to throw me in

00:40:02.600 jail i don't need to

00:40:03.260 go to the gulag with

00:40:03.980 the rest of the of the

00:40:05.100 crazy right-wingers i'm

00:40:06.320 not a trump supporter

00:40:07.180 i'm not a mag supporter

00:40:08.180 i'm not one of those

00:40:09.160 christian nationalists

00:40:10.120 they're just they're

00:40:10.600 just never trumpers for

00:40:12.080 a new age right that

00:40:13.220 that's all it is it's

00:40:14.360 there it's the new

00:40:14.940 version of never

00:40:15.560 trumpers and it's

00:40:16.800 pretty exhausting right

00:40:17.960 so is this christian

00:40:21.520 nationalism is is is

00:40:23.240 is cassidy you know

00:40:24.640 going up and smashing

00:40:25.860 this is is this a

00:40:26.920 demonstration of

00:40:27.680 christian nationalism no

00:40:28.900 i'm sorry it's not

00:40:30.200 because you don't need

00:40:31.540 to be a christian

00:40:32.420 nationalist to

00:40:33.740 understand that we

00:40:36.160 don't need to tolerate

00:40:37.020 this kind of evil in

00:40:39.000 our state in our

00:40:39.900 public spaces in our

00:40:41.320 state capital okay you

00:40:42.500 don't have to be a

00:40:42.960 christian nationalist to

00:40:44.300 understand that no

00:40:45.680 founding american would

00:40:47.320 have understood

00:40:47.920 freedom of religion this

00:40:50.740 way okay

00:40:51.760 one of my problems with

00:40:54.200 christian nationalism one

00:40:55.320 of my problems with and

00:40:56.180 i've got a couple i'm

00:40:57.020 not going to go all

00:40:57.660 into them here i've

00:40:58.800 already made a couple

00:40:59.420 videos as to kind of

00:41:00.420 why i don't think the

00:41:01.120 title is very smart you

00:41:02.120 can go back and watch

00:41:02.800 those if you'd like there

00:41:04.020 are some more i want to

00:41:04.860 say on that matt that i

00:41:06.000 don't want to go on ad

00:41:06.780 nauseum but i might make

00:41:07.900 another video because i

00:41:08.760 need to to expound more

00:41:10.000 on why i think that the

00:41:11.800 title is not helpful but

00:41:13.580 one of the reasons that

00:41:14.540 i've talked about why i

00:41:15.400 don't think the title is

00:41:16.140 helpful is that christian

00:41:17.780 nationalism is a label

00:41:19.520 that allows the left to

00:41:21.100 frame things that are

00:41:22.080 normally normal and

00:41:23.840 healthy and within the

00:41:25.420 american tradition as

00:41:26.800 some radical and fringe

00:41:28.220 ideology and i just don't

00:41:30.540 think that's helpful i mean

00:41:31.460 the left picked up that

00:41:32.980 phrase for a reason i

00:41:33.760 understand that the word

00:41:34.560 christian nationalism

00:41:35.240 predated the left's

00:41:36.640 popularization of it but

00:41:38.240 you can tell you can flip a

00:41:39.800 switch as to when the

00:41:40.900 left decided to

00:41:41.980 popularize the phrase

00:41:43.080 christian nationalism and

00:41:44.500 a lot of people are in the

00:41:46.260 christian nationalism

00:41:46.920 movement always come to me

00:41:48.140 and say oh well but that's

00:41:49.040 the brilliance of it or

00:41:50.240 and because we turn their

00:41:51.600 language against them

00:41:52.260 they're they're they're

00:41:53.440 they think they're so

00:41:54.400 clever but at the end of

00:41:55.620 the day we're the ones who

00:41:56.840 are winning because they're

00:41:57.840 actually popularizing our

00:41:59.000 title for us not how that

00:42:00.700 works man picking up the

00:42:02.480 tools of your enemies

00:42:03.720 stepping into the trap of

00:42:05.260 your enemy is pretty much

00:42:06.520 always a mistake okay which

00:42:08.020 doesn't mean that there

00:42:09.460 aren't certain times where

00:42:11.120 you have to stand your

00:42:12.120 ground maybe you're right

00:42:13.360 maybe this is one of them

00:42:14.240 but i don't think it is

00:42:15.160 because i think

00:42:15.960 rhetorically it allows

00:42:17.160 people on the left to take

00:42:19.180 things that were always

00:42:20.340 part of america we're

00:42:21.500 always part of the

00:42:22.380 american tradition and make

00:42:23.740 them sound weird and

00:42:25.000 fringe and radical and

00:42:26.880 something that is beyond

00:42:28.360 the pale it's the next

00:42:29.420 scary thing that's a

00:42:31.180 problem right you want

00:42:32.480 normal people to

00:42:33.420 understand that america

00:42:34.380 was a christian nation

00:42:35.480 that the founding

00:42:36.860 generation of americans

00:42:38.180 would have seen it as

00:42:39.140 their moral duty to

00:42:40.020 smash a satanic altar

00:42:41.340 erected in a government

00:42:42.260 building and they

00:42:43.200 wouldn't have thought

00:42:43.800 that that violated the

00:42:44.980 establishment clause or

00:42:46.160 freedom of the religion

00:42:46.860 they said no of course

00:42:47.720 this is something evil of

00:42:49.200 course i'm going to get

00:42:49.880 rid of this right like

00:42:51.320 that that's just part of

00:42:52.540 what i'm going to do and

00:42:54.960 so i think it's a

00:42:56.180 mistake to label that

00:42:58.020 as something weird and

00:42:58.940 different i think we

00:43:00.000 should be putting that

00:43:00.760 in the frame of when

00:43:02.420 america always was as

00:43:03.940 as that that should be

00:43:05.080 something that is

00:43:05.600 understood as part of

00:43:06.400 american identity from

00:43:07.980 its founding through to

00:43:09.180 today it's a continuous

00:43:10.180 tradition that's still

00:43:11.480 alive rather than some

00:43:12.920 new thing that we're

00:43:14.240 we're packaging as

00:43:15.780 christian nationalism i

00:43:17.300 know a lot of people are

00:43:17.980 going to disagree with me

00:43:18.800 on that we can we can

00:43:19.880 hash that out later

00:43:20.800 that's not the point of

00:43:22.460 kind of this this talk

00:43:23.600 i just want to say

00:43:24.880 that i do i i while i

00:43:28.260 am not a christian

00:43:29.000 nationalist for the

00:43:29.680 reasons and and many

00:43:30.840 more that i've already

00:43:31.700 spoken about it is silly

00:43:33.800 to attribute this as

00:43:35.300 some idea that can only

00:43:36.260 exist inside christian

00:43:37.300 nationalism and i think

00:43:38.280 nobody does themselves

00:43:39.520 any favors whether it

00:43:40.700 be christian nationalists

00:43:41.580 or these more you know

00:43:43.480 soft uh conservatives

00:43:44.840 who are just trying to

00:43:45.980 kind of stay regime

00:43:47.260 approved i think it's a

00:43:49.240 mistake for both people

00:43:50.300 to try to polarize this

00:43:52.800 event and characterize

00:43:53.740 it as an excess of

00:43:55.640 christian nationalism or

00:43:56.520 something like that or

00:43:57.580 can only be believed by

00:43:58.580 a christian nationalist i

00:43:59.540 don't think that's a

00:44:01.160 good idea all right so

00:44:03.680 last thing i want to say

00:44:05.020 last thing i want to

00:44:06.100 touch on before i wrap up

00:44:07.200 this talk is the idea

00:44:09.980 of the sacred and

00:44:11.040 profane when it comes to

00:44:13.900 our our public spaces

00:44:18.020 right because i started

00:44:20.180 this talk off i started

00:44:21.140 this episode off by

00:44:22.320 talking about why

00:44:24.500 statues matter right

00:44:27.360 and and to just

00:44:28.520 recenter why statues

00:44:30.360 matter well all this

00:44:31.900 has been going on while

00:44:33.180 this this satanic idol

00:44:35.160 is smashed and you know

00:44:36.620 conservatives debate

00:44:37.560 about whether or not

00:44:38.340 this is christian

00:44:38.960 nationalism or whether

00:44:40.400 or not we should we

00:44:41.400 should be tolerating this

00:44:43.080 statue the biden

00:44:44.260 administration has been

00:44:45.180 working to remove a

00:44:47.780 monument from the

00:44:49.740 arlington national

00:44:50.600 cemetery that

00:44:51.260 commemorates the

00:44:51.880 reconciliation between

00:44:52.940 the north and south

00:44:53.920 after the civil war you

00:44:56.160 see after the summer of

00:44:57.720 floyd after the blm

00:44:59.160 riots uh congress

00:45:00.840 decided that they had to

00:45:02.660 purge all confederate

00:45:04.700 monuments from federal

00:45:06.360 property and so they

00:45:07.780 wrote a law saying you

00:45:08.600 had to get rid of all

00:45:09.500 these monuments that

00:45:10.960 were honoring the

00:45:12.340 confederacy again

00:45:13.220 republicans going along

00:45:14.880 with it being being

00:45:16.020 facilitators of this also

00:45:18.000 great way uh to to tell

00:45:19.940 uh people that mob

00:45:21.100 violence works in

00:45:22.020 america sorry but

00:45:24.000 don't don't confuse

00:45:25.420 yourselves that's

00:45:26.020 exactly what the message

00:45:26.880 was if if you go out

00:45:28.560 and riot you burn down

00:45:29.720 cities you destroy

00:45:31.160 things uh we we will

00:45:33.020 capitulate to you now of

00:45:34.200 course they only again

00:45:35.060 to be clear they only

00:45:36.400 capitulated because they

00:45:37.340 already agreed with the

00:45:38.240 blm riots they their

00:45:40.160 soft power was already

00:45:41.520 lined up with these

00:45:42.960 public demonstrations to

00:45:44.400 be very clear do not do

00:45:46.000 this on the right it

00:45:46.840 will not go your way

00:45:47.880 the the momentum does

00:45:49.960 not swing the other way

00:45:50.860 specifically because the

00:45:52.440 regime approves of the

00:45:53.920 left regime approves of

00:45:56.180 the blm rioters they

00:45:58.020 approve of what happens

00:45:58.960 there that's why they

00:46:00.840 capitulated not just the

00:46:02.500 demonstrations but the

00:46:03.900 demonstrations obviously

00:46:04.920 are correctly or are

00:46:06.460 directly connected and

00:46:08.180 correctly identified as a

00:46:09.620 causal relationship with

00:46:11.120 the removal of these

00:46:12.060 statues so they passed

00:46:15.100 this law and they got

00:46:15.940 to remove all these

00:46:16.620 statues now the

00:46:17.540 legislation specifically

00:46:18.560 says that there's an

00:46:19.960 exemption for grave

00:46:20.800 sites you don't have to

00:46:22.200 remove this monument

00:46:23.780 actually because it's at

00:46:24.920 a grave site and so

00:46:26.100 therefore it is it's

00:46:28.080 exempt from the law but

00:46:28.920 that doesn't matter the

00:46:30.140 biden administration wants

00:46:31.180 it gone right they have

00:46:32.420 to obliterate this piece

00:46:33.600 of history we must remove

00:46:35.160 this from public memory

00:46:36.160 why well they want to get

00:46:38.500 rid of the idea of

00:46:39.240 reconciliation right they

00:46:40.960 don't want that honored

00:46:41.720 anymore they don't want

00:46:43.400 the idea that the two

00:46:44.740 pieces of america that

00:46:45.600 can disagree in a very

00:46:47.420 serious way could come

00:46:48.460 back together they don't

00:46:49.460 like that anymore there

00:46:51.020 is no idea that the

00:46:52.200 regime could at some

00:46:53.580 point honor the other

00:46:55.080 side that's dead that's

00:46:57.340 done that's dusted and

00:46:59.100 so they tried to remove

00:47:00.180 this now initially a judge

00:47:01.720 said well this might

00:47:02.420 violate the you know the

00:47:03.680 the provision the law and

00:47:05.100 if it's going to mess with

00:47:06.380 the grave then we need to

00:47:07.320 halt this and they

00:47:08.480 stopped it for a while

00:47:09.560 but eventually the monument

00:47:11.640 has now been removed the

00:47:13.660 the pentagon has has

00:47:15.360 removed this monument

00:47:17.180 and i think that's really

00:47:18.680 telling because even as

00:47:20.580 leftists are removing your

00:47:24.140 history as they went by

00:47:26.000 you know they they remove

00:47:27.000 things from grave sites they

00:47:28.700 remove things from monuments

00:47:30.920 that are to your founders

00:47:32.160 they're removing american war

00:47:34.160 monuments as they're

00:47:35.000 destroying all of these

00:47:35.880 things that are sacred that

00:47:37.260 hold the memory of the

00:47:38.520 country together conservative

00:47:40.660 leaders are telling you no we

00:47:42.260 have to aggressively approve

00:47:45.600 of the religious tolerance and

00:47:47.740 pluralism that allows us to

00:47:49.480 honor satan in our state

00:47:51.580 capitals that's where we're at

00:47:53.840 right now that's a level of

00:47:55.600 cowardice that is just

00:47:57.720 unacceptable and and it's a

00:47:59.540 level of idiocy okay if you are

00:48:01.520 backing this understanding this

00:48:04.220 interpretation of religious

00:48:07.140 liberty and you're sincere about

00:48:09.580 that you got to think about this

00:48:11.300 real quick okay if you have a

00:48:13.440 conservatism that cannot make a

00:48:15.100 case for removing satanic

00:48:17.380 altars for barring satanic

00:48:19.040 altars you don't have

00:48:20.380 conservatism okay i mean

00:48:22.380 conservatism has failed on

00:48:23.920 every level look at where we

00:48:25.240 are okay and there's no clear

00:48:28.520 clear picture of

00:48:31.420 conservatism's failure than being

00:48:33.260 unable to make a conservative

00:48:34.680 case for why you cannot have a

00:48:37.280 satanic altar because you didn't

00:48:39.340 have to do it 60 years ago you

00:48:41.440 certainly didn't have to do 100

00:48:42.420 years ago and if you had done it in

00:48:44.120 the like the 1790s you would have

00:48:45.960 been lucky to walk out of whatever

00:48:47.420 building you built that in with

00:48:49.040 everything attached so the idea that

00:48:52.400 this is what the founders wanted or

00:48:55.520 this is what christians have always

00:48:57.200 believed is insane and if you're a

00:49:00.180 modern conservative leader and you

00:49:02.000 think this is what your principles

00:49:04.640 require of you you should probably

00:49:07.220 take a look at those principles it's

00:49:09.440 important to have principles i'm not

00:49:10.960 saying don't have principles you

00:49:12.060 should absolutely have principles

00:49:13.160 but they should be your principles

00:49:14.820 not principles that were handed to

00:49:16.580 you by the progressive media not

00:49:18.440 principles that were handed to you

00:49:19.820 by your left-wing law school not

00:49:22.300 principles that were filtered down to

00:49:24.000 you through the ratchet of leftism in

00:49:27.620 the american political system they

00:49:29.440 should be the principles of your

00:49:30.520 faith the principles of your history

00:49:33.200 and you can only have those

00:49:34.500 principles if you're actually tied to

00:49:35.820 those things you can only have those

00:49:37.560 principles if they're connected to

00:49:39.260 something important and so i'm just

00:49:41.640 trying to tell people who consider

00:49:44.220 themselves conservative who consider

00:49:46.280 themselves on the right who believe

00:49:48.440 themselves to be standing up for what

00:49:51.540 the republican party or the american

00:49:53.360 founders believed in if you think that

00:49:56.000 standing up to those things requires a

00:49:57.900 satanic culture you cannot make a

00:49:59.780 conservative case for banning this of

00:50:04.240 all things then maybe maybe those

00:50:07.340 principles deserve to be discarded

00:50:09.480 maybe they belong belong on the trap

00:50:12.100 the trash heap of history because they

00:50:14.780 certainly are not going to protect

00:50:16.300 america especially at this late stage

00:50:18.520 okay you need a more robust

00:50:21.320 understanding of traditions you need a

00:50:23.840 more robust understanding of your

00:50:25.480 principles because if you had that you

00:50:28.020 wouldn't be talking this kind of

00:50:29.120 lunacy you would understand what really

00:50:32.000 went in to those founding documents and

00:50:34.360 those founding ideas and they certainly

00:50:36.200 did not require you to honor a satanic

00:50:40.220 altar in the middle of a state capitol

00:50:42.580 all right guys i'm going to go ahead and

00:50:45.120 switch over to our questions here looks

00:50:47.340 like we have quite a lot of them so let

00:50:49.680 me get started

00:50:51.080 uh andrew guller for twenty dollars hello

00:50:53.940 orin i'm a new subscriber out of

00:50:55.460 curiosity what do you think of rj

00:50:57.780 rush dunes worldview on or on politics

00:51:01.060 and culture well man i'm i'm really

00:51:03.840 sorry uh i appreciate the the new

00:51:06.340 subscription and the and the donation

00:51:08.320 but i i don't know who that is i feel

00:51:10.040 really bad because i just have

00:51:11.500 even if i googled i wouldn't really have

00:51:13.840 a a real answer that so i'm sorry uh if

00:51:16.920 you have another question uh throw it

00:51:19.120 throw it in the chat and i'll answer it

00:51:20.680 for free sorry that i don't have a better

00:51:22.200 answer for you there i feel bad

00:51:23.520 after that super chat but i just don't

00:51:25.660 i'm not familiar with that background

00:51:27.840 super weirdo but my free speech or my

00:51:31.160 free speech yeah i mean again

00:51:32.980 that's not what free speech was ever

00:51:36.020 about and that's specifically not what

00:51:38.400 uh what exercise of religion was about

00:51:42.440 right freedom of religion was about if

00:51:44.580 you were again if you're a legitimate

00:51:46.660 faith tradition even one that deeply

00:51:48.460 disagrees with christian we can talk

00:51:50.560 okay that that's you are still pursuing

00:51:52.400 the divine in a way that is in line

00:51:55.260 with i think a healthy human

00:51:57.820 understanding of of trying to under

00:52:00.900 or rather trying to obtain a healthy

00:52:02.600 understanding of these things maybe

00:52:04.300 it's not the right one in fact i'll

00:52:05.980 i'll say it's not the right one if it's

00:52:07.340 not christianity but at least you're

00:52:09.900 legitimately pursuing that that's what

00:52:11.920 religious tolerance is there to

00:52:13.740 actually do it's not there so that you

00:52:15.900 can get trolled by reddit atheists but

00:52:17.540 that's not its actual goal and there's

00:52:19.620 no reason to honor it uh chris here

00:52:22.320 for ten dollars read the bet with

00:52:23.940 academic asian if you guys missed that

00:52:25.800 stream yesterday you should go back and

00:52:27.240 watch it that was a lot of fun uh look

00:52:29.280 into the mises caucus takeover of the

00:52:31.200 libertarian party for a real world

00:52:32.720 example of what happens when the

00:52:34.420 wokies lose they cannot moderate and

00:52:36.720 will attempt to burn it all down on the

00:52:38.600 way out uh yeah i'm certainly sure

00:52:41.140 that's how that worked i have not looked

00:52:42.800 into entirely the um the whole history of

00:52:47.700 that i was actually in a scuffle with the

00:52:49.760 libertarians today on twitter they got

00:52:52.000 angry at me um there there's uh well

00:52:55.840 dave smith and i will maybe have to go

00:52:57.700 around three at some point um we managed

00:53:00.600 to disagree more on twitter than we do on

00:53:02.380 in live streams i think that's how

00:53:04.100 twitter works uh probably healthier to

00:53:06.640 just have these debates in real life uh

00:53:08.520 but yeah i would be interested in knowing

00:53:10.280 a little more about that i mean i i hope

00:53:12.020 the guys at the mises caucus the best they

00:53:13.860 are the best of the libertarians i

00:53:15.560 really wish they would just call

00:53:16.680 themselves something else so they don't

00:53:18.060 have to deal with all the baggage of

00:53:19.160 libertarianism but they seem intent on

00:53:21.640 spending the next 20 years trying to

00:53:23.920 like lose the specter of the guy dancing

00:53:26.020 in his underwear godspeed you know i tell

00:53:29.340 conservatives to start calling themselves

00:53:30.860 conservatives because they're not

00:53:32.000 conserving things anymore i give the

00:53:35.580 libertarians the same advice but you

00:53:37.660 know who knows if anyone will listen to

00:53:39.180 me cooper weirdo so when are you uh so

00:53:42.320 when are you going to get jonathan uh

00:53:44.460 on the show talk about symbolism and

00:53:47.200 stories it would be really based i have

00:53:49.040 great news for your creepo weirdo i got

00:53:51.280 in touch with jonathan just last week i

00:53:54.100 haven't heard back from his schedule yet

00:53:55.800 but hopefully in the new year i will have

00:53:57.800 that episode for you so you ask the

00:54:00.060 people uh demand it and don't don't let

00:54:02.720 it be said that i do not attempt to

00:54:04.600 deliver

00:54:05.020 uh let's see ostomizos prime for 199

00:54:10.180 what's next the satan clubs in public

00:54:12.440 schools oh wait yes exactly um again

00:54:15.960 there's no reason these things should be

00:54:17.620 tolerated there's no reason they should

00:54:19.040 exist

00:54:19.440 uh that is not the way that the law

00:54:21.240 should be understood and if it is

00:54:22.940 understood that way it should be changed

00:54:24.540 uh we have to have principles that uh

00:54:26.960 exist beyond legalism uh and obviously

00:54:29.600 allowing people to engage in this behavior

00:54:32.320 uh in a public setting uh specifically

00:54:35.360 one sponsored uh by public tax dollars

00:54:38.260 in the public square obviously is it's

00:54:41.440 you know demonstrably evil uh which is

00:54:43.820 why it's labeled the satan club

00:54:45.160 uh panaskeptic here says freedom of

00:54:47.740 religion

00:54:48.000 uh for them but not for us huh

00:54:50.620 uh nah well yeah of course uh that's how

00:54:54.000 it works right the left is always calling

00:54:55.900 for these neutral principles but they

00:54:57.320 never abide by them

00:54:58.300 uh which is why you must have freedom of

00:55:00.200 religion but of course uh the fbi will

00:55:02.460 show up if you say i don't know protest in

00:55:04.560 front of a clinic or something uh they'll

00:55:06.540 they'll show up to your house and so you

00:55:08.080 know the freedom of religion is uh

00:55:09.800 obviously a very very sketchy thing they

00:55:12.860 they have to have it at all times

00:55:14.280 yours is constantly curtailed uh skeptical

00:55:17.780 panda here says i actually do appreciate

00:55:20.140 when reiners grifters and soft cons tell

00:55:22.120 us who they are it gives us the ability

00:55:23.820 to know who not to support or listen to

00:55:26.040 yep i mean so this is of course obviously

00:55:28.200 the case uh clarity is better i'd rather

00:55:30.940 formally understand now i'd be clear one

00:55:33.340 of the reasons i am you know doing this

00:55:35.400 episode is i would like to change minds

00:55:36.780 there are people who i like uh people

00:55:38.560 who have had me on their shows and

00:55:39.940 things who i just disagree with this on

00:55:41.620 and i would like the opportunity to

00:55:43.300 convince them that's why i'm doing this

00:55:44.820 so this is not me attacking everyone who

00:55:47.020 has this view and saying oh well you

00:55:49.360 know every one of you are liars and

00:55:50.560 grifters some might be you know i think

00:55:52.340 that certainly exists but some of them

00:55:54.060 might just genuinely disagree and

00:55:55.960 that's why i'm having this conversation so

00:55:58.160 you know i want you know this this is in

00:56:00.400 some way an attempt to persuade to show

00:56:02.400 them there is a real conservative case

00:56:04.140 for this you do not have to uh you know

00:56:06.740 uh allow this stuff to be a real

00:56:08.940 constitutional conservative even though

00:56:10.580 i myself am not you know would not wear

00:56:13.240 that label i think even inside that

00:56:15.320 tradition there's no reason for you to

00:56:18.060 defend this stuff you do not need to be

00:56:19.940 some kind of christian nationalist uh to

00:56:22.520 see this as a problem uh you just have to

00:56:24.860 be anyone who is in any way in touch with

00:56:27.880 the traditions and understandings of

00:56:30.000 american principles that existed more

00:56:32.000 than 10 years ago

00:56:33.000 uh kruper weirdo satanism is an anti-

00:56:37.100 religion it's illegitimate yes that's

00:56:39.240 exactly my point sir that it's not real

00:56:41.760 it's not a it's not a real pursuit of

00:56:44.200 religious understanding uh even though i

00:56:46.820 might think other religions are misguided

00:56:48.820 i might disagree with them that's very

00:56:50.880 different from one that is obviously

00:56:52.720 clearly created just to go ahead and

00:56:55.540 uh troll people to just be insincere and

00:56:58.600 uh and uh exploit that provision if

00:57:03.920 something is being exploited on purpose

00:57:05.580 you should probably think about why it's

00:57:07.060 allowing it to be exploited adam here

00:57:09.540 says i caught your twitter space have

00:57:12.120 have you considered the that real

00:57:14.240 liberalism has never been tried before

00:57:16.860 merry christmas well thank you for coming

00:57:18.280 by man i appreciate that yeah i'm gonna

00:57:19.820 i'm gonna start doing that guys i maybe uh

00:57:22.260 i tried out having a twitter space when

00:57:24.580 i have some extra time during the day

00:57:26.160 before a show goes live just to explore

00:57:28.400 some things that maybe don't deserve a

00:57:30.460 whole show but i wanted to go you know

00:57:32.720 think about them a little bit out loud and

00:57:34.120 go in more depth than to tweet on them so

00:57:36.620 you know if you want to stop by from

00:57:38.100 those uh feel free uh had a lot of

00:57:40.520 people come out so that was nice uh and

00:57:42.780 i appreciate you coming by man merry

00:57:44.260 christmas of course to everybody i

00:57:46.660 really appreciate that uh uh formacell

00:57:50.920 here uh says christ did not even tolerate

00:57:53.060 mundane commerce in the temple courtyard

00:57:55.420 what do you think he would have done

00:57:56.600 the statue of moloch if he found one yeah i

00:57:59.340 think that's kind of the most obvious

00:58:01.000 rebuttal there's this really weird

00:58:02.660 belief that christianity is about

00:58:05.040 tolerance uh it's not tolerance is not a

00:58:08.020 christian value uh that that is not

00:58:10.620 something uh that you will find in the

00:58:12.780 bible that's not something you will find

00:58:14.260 in the old testament or new testament god

00:58:16.600 it's not something you will find in

00:58:18.260 jesus christ now that does not mean of

00:58:21.160 course uh that there are not situations

00:58:24.020 in which uh you you should not allow

00:58:27.160 people again i believe that you should

00:58:29.380 allow the practice of legitimate faith

00:58:32.400 traditions inside the united states that

00:58:34.880 are not christian even if it is from it

00:58:37.100 was primarily a predominantly a protestant

00:58:40.960 christian nation i'm not for banning

00:58:43.300 those practices right so so i'm i am for a

00:58:46.520 certain level of pursuit of that i think

00:58:48.720 that is something that is in line with the

00:58:50.420 american tradition but pretending that that

00:58:53.920 christianity is just this idea that you can

00:58:55.840 allow you know a statue of evil a a uh altar of

00:59:01.040 evil inside your state buildings but that's a

00:59:04.240 problem that is that is not what christianity

00:59:05.940 would have said

00:59:06.520 uh let's see uh we have cliff jaded here says

00:59:11.620 america uh was a protestant nation from its

00:59:14.540 inception my pastor is a baptist minister in

00:59:16.960 singapore the secular revisionism makes me

00:59:19.640 want to fed post love your stuff and hope you get

00:59:21.980 your cigar from academic agent soon well don't

00:59:24.520 don't do that don't post like that but thank

00:59:27.060 you yeah i agree that uh that that this is the

00:59:29.640 case it is sexual it is secular revisionism it's

00:59:33.640 sad that so many people on the right have bought into

00:59:35.940 that revisionism but that's true of so many

00:59:38.220 things there there are quite a few areas in which

00:59:40.540 the right has bought into the left's uh story and has

00:59:43.260 made it their own uh but i do appreciate you and your

00:59:46.220 support for me in my battle against academic agent and

00:59:49.980 his uh his desire to continue to deny me the cigar i so

00:59:53.760 rightly desire uh cigar slam 2025 will continue i do think

00:59:59.680 he should uh just go ahead and give up now so he doesn't

01:00:03.060 have to be embarrassed by his constant losses in this

01:00:05.800 area but you know you some people are just stubborn they

01:00:09.080 just they just have to take all the l's before they finally

01:00:12.280 hand over that cigar but it will be mine and i appreciate

01:00:14.960 your support of me in this battle uh uh lord chronicler says the

01:00:19.980 enemy is real uh or the enemy in reality works exactly like

01:00:23.860 chaos in 40k there is no ironic chaos worship there is no

01:00:27.440 ironic satan worship crisis king vanquish evil amen correct uh and

01:00:32.100 i do love 40k for that reason it is it is a great universe uh

01:00:37.140 because it is very based in how it uh portrays evil in many

01:00:40.900 ways uh tiny rick says buddhists and christians

01:00:44.680 are very different uh have very different metaphysics

01:00:48.320 but very similar values turns out we have the exact same enemies

01:00:51.520 great show today well thank you very much man i'm not

01:00:53.860 super big on all of buddhist doctrine but i appreciate your support uh cliff jaded

01:00:59.820 says the conservative case for satanic owners in congress

01:01:02.800 david french question when do you think the secularization of u.s history began

01:01:07.000 hi from uh sg well thanks man i i would say uh first of course this this title was a

01:01:13.260 playoff the famous david french joke so i appreciate you taking the time to make

01:01:17.460 it when do i think the secularization of u.s history began well i mean that's a

01:01:21.460 great question i think that obviously christianity is

01:01:25.760 still a major force in the united states you know uh through through long

01:01:31.160 sections of history up to the 60s probably is the first place it

01:01:35.100 really gets a massive pushback of course

01:01:37.060 there was a desperate attempt to secularize in the 20s and 30s uh or if you

01:01:43.420 look at something like uh if you look at some of these

01:01:46.180 organizations that kind of arise during that time uh the

01:01:49.640 post-world war ii that still exists uh but but you know the the characterization

01:01:55.520 of the 50s as this hyper christian moment is true in some ways but in some ways

01:02:00.420 it's also like the left trying to characterize that as as far as things

01:02:05.620 could go uh instead of understanding that that

01:02:08.320 itself was already there was a process underway

01:02:10.220 so when does the secularization of u.s history begin i don't know that that's a

01:02:14.780 difficult thing to pinpoint i think it was an ongoing process some would say

01:02:18.200 since the enlightenment something since the instance

01:02:20.180 the instantiation of the u.s i think people like curtis yarvin might say that

01:02:24.280 i think that's a little extreme uh we could debate that for a long time but i do

01:02:28.040 think that uh you definitely see it start to

01:02:30.580 kick up of course as uh the left really picks up the new left picks up uh

01:02:34.720 serious power atheism starts entering i think the conversation in a more

01:02:39.060 more real way in the in the 60s and going onward uh obviously secularization is a

01:02:44.060 big part of liberalism and uh or the left rather i should say and

01:02:48.300 and the push of the left it means a big part of liberalism writ large classical

01:02:51.700 liberalism is a secularizing force uh but but i think the the more radical

01:02:55.740 version of it certainly comes in in the 60s a skeptical panda here says

01:02:59.980 merry christmas to all well thank you sir definitely appreciate that

01:03:02.900 uh madden williams says any chance that you will have sam hide on merry

01:03:07.160 christmas you know uh i i would love to talk to sam he's i he actually does

01:03:11.040 follow me on twitter uh he's very funny uh has some of the makes has you know

01:03:16.400 created some of the best memes of all time i don't know i don't know if he'd

01:03:19.580 be interested in coming on that would be interesting for sure i i think sam

01:03:23.400 would would is just way funnier than i'm capable of i don't know if i i'm a

01:03:26.760 little too straight man uh although maybe that's the comic duo you need right

01:03:30.200 maybe sam hide and i create the comedy but or count the cop the buddy comedy uh

01:03:35.040 like buddy cop duo of the century maybe that's really what we need uh but uh but i do

01:03:40.240 appreciate the merry christmas man uh let's see uh general grievance uh that

01:03:44.900 is uh still one of my favorite uh names it it's that special time of year when

01:03:49.980 i catch the end of your stream and can buy you a coffee or eggnog

01:03:53.200 whichever merry christmas i love both i am i am both a coffee and eggnog

01:03:57.720 enjoyer uh so uh excellent uh man really appreciate it again

01:04:02.180 fantastic uh screen name uh evan m here says tolerance is not a christian value

01:04:07.380 glad we agree on that yeah it is an english value arising from the centuries

01:04:11.620 of religious strife it comes from a specific time and place

01:04:14.060 and doesn't apply universally well and that's another

01:04:16.660 really important point right uh carl benjamin uh

01:04:21.040 has has made the case uh rather often uh including on this show

01:04:25.660 that classical liberalism is not something that is actually supposed to be

01:04:29.580 universalized even though that is its impulse

01:04:31.420 it is specifically for the english uh it is it is the natural state of an englishman

01:04:35.740 uh and it works in that context but not outside of it uh he's probably got a good

01:04:40.740 point there uh it there's there's a number of jokes

01:04:43.740 about uh kind of who uh classical liberalism can apply to

01:04:47.580 uh profitably um it certainly does not work in

01:04:51.740 kind of large uh empire-wide democracies

01:04:55.220 uh though i suppose that's what england became and also

01:04:58.060 perhaps also what its downfall in some ways

01:05:01.580 uh but yeah i think you're right that is certainly not something that is

01:05:04.880 universalizable uh the tolerance can work inside a certain bandwidth

01:05:08.820 right if you agree to certain axioms you can have a certain amount of tolerance

01:05:12.840 which is why the protestant christianity thing

01:05:14.920 was kind of the loose social glue in america right everyone agreed

01:05:18.680 to some extent like you could be any kind of protestant christian you want you could

01:05:21.800 even be like i guess a catholic if you want to

01:05:24.100 uh you know that that you know that you were viewed with some suspicion

01:05:27.500 for for your potpourri uh but uh but but in general that was okay to some extent

01:05:33.000 uh but but christianity was most certainly the glue that held everything together that

01:05:38.120 consensus allowed people to have different versions of protestant christianity or even

01:05:43.600 even uh you know orthodox christianity uh inside the nation and still hold together but once you

01:05:49.840 started adding all of these different cultures all these different people from different places

01:05:54.240 different languages different backgrounds that could not as easily graft into the existing

01:05:59.440 protestant christian culture of america and they started trying to make carve outs

01:06:03.040 that that's when you had a problem uh let's see cooper weirdo says dave might be a huge dork but

01:06:08.640 he's right this is a battle of faith look we're all big dorks here uh but yeah but no

01:06:13.140 yes dave the distributist is right this is a battle of faith uh he is absolutely right to have

01:06:18.300 that meme and then we have uh bend over christ is king god bless you and merry christmas well thank

01:06:25.240 you very much man merry christmas to all of you uh this will probably be my last broadcast before

01:06:29.980 christmas itself so of course i want to go ahead and wish everybody a merry christmas and uh i will

01:06:36.600 probably go ahead and do like i usually do like a post christmas uh hang out with some of the friends

01:06:42.860 of the channels so you might see that i usually do my uh i usually do my uh end of year reading list

01:06:49.600 so i'll probably do that so i won't be doing as many shows over the holiday obviously because

01:06:53.660 i'll be spending that time with my family and such uh but i certainly want to go ahead and say merry

01:06:59.160 christmas to everybody before i head out great to have everybody by uh today i had a great time again

01:07:05.780 that aa stream every yesterday everybody loved that uh got a lot of compliments on that everybody

01:07:10.440 had a fun time so i'm glad everybody enjoyed that and if you haven't gotten to catch it you should

01:07:14.840 definitely go check it out because it was a lot of fun appreciate you guys stopping by

01:07:19.400 merry christmas and i will see you next time

The Auron MacIntyre Show - December 21, 2023

The Conservative Case Against Satanic Altars ｜ 12⧸21⧸23

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