The Auron MacIntyre Show - January 23, 2026


The Elon Musk Paradox | 1⧸23⧸26


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 6 minutes

Words per Minute

183.95543

Word Count

12,303

Sentence Count

847

Misogynist Sentences

14

Hate Speech Sentences

77


Summary

In this episode, we discuss Elon Musk, the H1B program, and the decline in violent crime in the United States under Donald Trump. We also discuss Bitcoin and the future of the future, and why Bitcoin is a safe investment.


Transcript

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00:00:30.000 Hey, everybody.
00:00:31.000 How's it going?
00:00:32.000 Thanks for joining me this afternoon.
00:00:34.000 I am Oren McIntyre.
00:00:36.000 Got a few things on the agenda for you today.
00:00:38.000 First and foremost, Elon Musk.
00:00:40.000 He seems to understand the problem of replacement migration.
00:00:44.000 He seems to understand the great replacement.
00:00:46.000 He's talking about anti-white attacks, anti-white slurs,
00:00:50.000 the desire to drive whites out of Europe and America.
00:00:53.000 And yet, for some reason,
00:00:55.000 it's difficult for Elon Musk to square this
00:00:57.000 with the fact that he seems to want to import a large amount of foreigners
00:01:01.000 into the United States through the H-1B program.
00:01:04.000 He doesn't like illegal immigration,
00:01:06.000 but he seems pretty on board with this mass legal immigration.
00:01:10.000 And it seems largely motivated by his desire to operate his own countries.
00:01:15.000 We'll get into that dichotomy and why it seems so prevalent.
00:01:18.000 We're also going to talk about the arrests made in Minnesota.
00:01:23.000 It turns out that there were three arrests that came down from the DOJ,
00:01:28.000 though, sadly, one of them did not include Don Lemon,
00:01:32.000 though the reasons are there.
00:01:34.000 We'll talk about why in a moment.
00:01:36.000 And then, of course, I also want to talk about the drop in violent crime.
00:01:40.000 We're seeing studies coming out saying that there has been a sharp drop
00:01:44.000 in violent crime under Donald Trump going to talk about why that is.
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00:03:15.000 All right, guys, let's dive into it.
00:03:18.000 Before we get into Elon Musk, I want to put out a disclaimer.
00:03:22.000 Elon Musk has been overall an ally to the right.
00:03:28.000 He's far from perfect.
00:03:29.000 I'm not saying that there aren't things you need to watch out for.
00:03:32.000 I'm not saying that there aren't things that you need to push back on.
00:03:35.000 Obviously, we're going to do a lot of that today.
00:03:37.000 So that's very clearly not my stance.
00:03:39.000 However, I also don't want to make it sound like it's just all Elon bashing.
00:03:43.000 Watch out.
00:03:44.000 Elon's just a traitor.
00:03:45.000 He's not, you know, he's completely turned against whatever.
00:03:48.000 I don't think that's true either.
00:03:50.000 You have to recognize that Elon Musk had a massive pile of money.
00:03:54.000 He could have spent on anything, many things that were far more profitable.
00:03:58.000 And instead, he bought Twitter.
00:04:00.000 And when he bought Twitter, he wasn't just securing some kind of financial investment.
00:04:05.000 I'm sure he wants it to turn a profit.
00:04:06.000 Obviously, that's part of his intention.
00:04:09.000 But I think Elon Musk was perfectly aware that he could have put his money into a far more directly profitable thing.
00:04:15.000 Instead, he does something that most conservatives never do.
00:04:20.000 Like this is the problem with conservative billionaires, conservative donor class.
00:04:24.000 They don't recognize the importance of owning prestige organizations.
00:04:28.000 They just care about the bottom line.
00:04:30.000 Where's my money?
00:04:31.000 Where's my profit?
00:04:32.000 Where's my year to year increase?
00:04:34.000 Right.
00:04:35.000 They never go and do what leftist billionaires do, which is like just start newspapers or buy prestigious institutions
00:04:41.000 or basically buy universities and then turn them into factories for leftists, propaganda outlets for leftists,
00:04:48.000 places where you can park leftists so they can receive money, sinecures, educations.
00:04:53.000 They turn these different cultural apparatuses into machines that produce more and more left wingers, more left wing culture, more left wing power.
00:05:04.000 They understand the importance of making that long term investment and not just going in and saying, OK, well, as long as this is going to turn a little bit of profit, then it'll be worth my time.
00:05:15.000 And that's what, to his great credit, Elon Musk did.
00:05:18.000 Instead of just looking for the highest return on his dollar, he recognized the power of controlling a critical node in the cathedral,
00:05:27.000 in the collective consensus making apparatus of the United States ruling class, because Twitter isn't just another social media site like Facebook, Instagram.
00:05:38.000 Obviously, these are like larger than.
00:05:43.000 Hey, guys, sorry about that.
00:05:45.000 One of the excitements of a live stream, sometimes your Internet goes out for a minute.
00:05:50.000 But it looks like we are back.
00:05:52.000 So I think everybody can see me.
00:05:55.000 OK, I think we're back.
00:05:56.000 Let me know if there's any audio problems or anything.
00:05:59.000 I just joined.
00:06:00.000 So, OK, good, good.
00:06:02.000 Looks like we're all right.
00:06:03.000 All right, guys.
00:06:04.000 So again, sorry about that.
00:06:05.000 But technical difficulties, what are you going to do?
00:06:07.000 All right.
00:06:08.000 So like I was saying, Elon's purchase of Twitter was rather significant because it's not just another social media site.
00:06:16.000 It is basically one of the critical parts, one of the critical nodes in the hive mind that kind of runs the American government.
00:06:25.000 It's like the New York Times or Harvard.
00:06:28.000 It's one of those things that regularly inform the opinion of the most important and influential people.
00:06:32.000 Even when our governments decide to do things, they actually announce it on the Internet.
00:06:39.000 When Joe Biden stepped down from running for president.
00:06:43.000 Where do you find out?
00:06:44.000 You find out on Twitter.
00:06:45.000 And that's treated as some kind of legally binding thing.
00:06:47.000 So that's obviously a scenario that kind of shows you how Twitter occupies a space that is just very, very different from anything else.
00:06:56.000 So as I go into this, just remember the fact that Elon put that much money into buying Twitter and ensuring that there is at least some level of speech.
00:07:06.000 I know it's not as free speech as people as want.
00:07:08.000 It's not perfect, but it's way better than it was previously.
00:07:11.000 Obviously, it allows the right to have a beachhead and a constant place in which they can discuss the culture and have an influence directly.
00:07:20.000 Also, obviously, big time funding when it came to the Trump campaign and throwing his weight behind that.
00:07:26.000 I know that the Trump relationship got volatile.
00:07:29.000 He wasn't happy with, obviously, Doge and other aspects of what the administration was doing.
00:07:34.000 But Elon has been an ally.
00:07:37.000 He has been somebody who has a positive impact on the right.
00:07:39.000 So I just want to get that out of the way before we start talking about the rest of it.
00:07:43.000 All right.
00:07:44.000 So that said, if you've been on Twitter at all, you've seen Elon talking about basically the great replacement.
00:07:52.000 All right.
00:07:53.000 Who's from South Africa.
00:07:56.000 He knows what it's like to watch a country decline as the demographics shift.
00:08:01.000 He's familiar what happens when people, especially who are openly hostile to whites, gain power and start using that power to suppress whites.
00:08:11.000 Right.
00:08:12.000 He knows what that looks like.
00:08:14.000 He understands the violence.
00:08:15.000 He understands all of that stuff.
00:08:17.000 So I can't imagine that that is not in his mind.
00:08:21.000 That's not somewhere pretty close to the forefront of his mind when he's making these decisions, when he's talking about what he's talking about.
00:08:30.000 When he gets on Twitter, he's constantly saying, OK, you know, there's this it's not just about immigration, though he notes that that's a huge problem, mass immigration.
00:08:42.000 He also notices the virulent anti white policies, the anti white rhetoric, the way in which governments are in their kind of apparatchiks are openly attacking white people collectively and try to push them out of countries.
00:08:57.000 So Elon's not just talking about, you know, the the current immigration crisis.
00:09:03.000 He's not just talking about even, you know, bad language used toward white people or hateful language towards white people, though, that is very common and very aggressive.
00:09:13.000 He's actively addressing the issues of systemic replacement of white people, intentional bias, intentional racism towards white people, attacks on white people, the explicit goal of removing white people from their homelands.
00:09:29.000 The idea that white people don't have homelands, that there is no native land for any white person.
00:09:34.560 For some reason, white Europeans are the only peoples in the entire world that can never be native to a country that can never have a homeland that can never have a place that is theirs.
00:09:43.720 Obviously, this is all huge.
00:09:47.980 The fact that Elon Musk acknowledges this stuff is a really big deal.
00:09:51.740 Like, I know things have moved so fast that it's really hard to recognize what all that means.
00:09:58.000 But remember, just a few years ago, saying the phrase anti white was basically off limits until like Tucker Carlson started floating it on Fox News.
00:10:07.980 And it really was not that long ago where any of the talking points Elon Musk was espousing would have gotten you labeled like far right, Nazi, like, like alt right.
00:10:23.040 Right.
00:10:23.220 Those were considered like opinions that are on storm front or, you know, things that things that get echoed in like super edgy chat rooms.
00:10:31.680 Right.
00:10:32.100 Like that.
00:10:32.440 These were very taboo phrases.
00:10:34.900 The fact that he uses the phrase the great replacements.
00:10:37.980 In and of itself is a big deal.
00:10:40.300 These are things that would have got you banned off social media, would have gotten you fired from your job, would have gotten, you know, you pulled from every platform, would have gotten you debanked, would have had SPLC and ADL would be writing articles on you, making sure that you were radioactive and no one could touch you.
00:10:57.400 And now it's just something that people say because the richest man in the world says it.
00:11:00.820 So, and, and, and, and, and it's crazy because, you know, just to show you like where we're at.
00:11:05.620 So I have to reload the video because the internet went down, but let me reload this video real quick.
00:11:10.580 But it's crazy that despite this being kind of the obvious thing that's going on here, we have a lot of people still trying to deny it.
00:11:22.900 So how, how obvious is it that we are going through this, that this is the goal of our political system?
00:11:29.900 Well, we actually have a guy from the state department on tape saying, yeah, this is the purpose of this.
00:11:36.000 This is the Democrats.
00:11:37.320 This is what they're doing.
00:11:38.300 They're using the great replacement to rig elections.
00:11:42.100 They want the country to be less white because white people vote Republican.
00:11:46.240 White people are conservatives.
00:11:47.800 Here's the video.
00:11:48.560 So you have the video here from, uh, from Project Veritas.
00:12:16.680 I have an undercover guy speaking with the state department official, and he comes out and says, look, it's really simple.
00:12:22.020 White guys in Nebraska, they're not leftists.
00:12:24.040 They're conservatives.
00:12:24.780 They're naturally conservative.
00:12:26.280 The basic default setting of the United States white population, the traditional population.
00:12:33.200 Yes.
00:12:33.380 The heritage population, heritage Americans tend to be very conservative, like at the very least, like center right, uh, conservatives.
00:12:43.700 And they're not going to vote for radical leftist policies.
00:12:46.180 They don't want it.
00:12:47.080 So what do you do in a, in a liberal democracy?
00:12:50.520 What do you do if you're the Democrats and you need to push this radical progressive agenda, but the native population isn't really interested?
00:12:59.200 And the answer is you replace them.
00:13:01.220 And by the way, this has been the policy of the left for basically ever.
00:13:04.860 They've recognized this dynamic for a long time.
00:13:07.800 Leftism cannot win in America.
00:13:09.660 It is not sustainable in America without replacing the population, without demographic replacement.
00:13:15.700 It's critical that they replace the people who live here.
00:13:18.820 Because as they said, the people in Nebraska, natural conservatives, the people coming across the border, the Latin Americans that you're, you're always told, you know, you have the, the, the, the George and Jeb, uh, Bushes saying, oh, well, these are, these are natural Americans.
00:13:33.740 They're natural conservatives.
00:13:34.940 You know, they have family values, they're Catholic, they're Christian, they're going to be right wing.
00:13:40.640 They're going to be conservative.
00:13:42.140 No, they're not.
00:13:43.300 Actually, they're natural leftists.
00:13:45.120 If for no other reason than when they get here, they want stuff.
00:13:48.960 They want protection.
00:13:50.060 They want advantages that they don't have because they're new immigrants.
00:13:53.580 And so they give their loyalty to the left.
00:13:58.120 So, you know, the, the state department's not confused as to why they want this policy.
00:14:04.280 Why does the left want mass immigration?
00:14:06.340 To replace you demographically.
00:14:08.960 It's not just to replace your principles, not just replacing your abstract principles.
00:14:15.120 It's not because you're a super double, uh, loyal to the constitution.
00:14:20.320 They want to replace you because of your race.
00:14:23.580 They want to replace you because of the color of your skin, because they know, frankly,
00:14:28.280 the left is not hesitating on this.
00:14:29.960 The state department's not hesitating to say this white people, the color of their skin
00:14:34.480 seems to indicate they're more likely to vote a specific way.
00:14:38.320 Now, obviously that's not the case all across the board.
00:14:41.340 Not all, obviously significant portion of white people do vote leftists.
00:14:45.860 And there are plenty of minorities that, uh, minority voters who do vote conservative,
00:14:50.740 though disproportionately, it is almost always them breaking the left to the left.
00:14:55.080 Hispanics, except in the last election, Indians, Chinese, Jews, they all vote left.
00:15:01.120 Asians in general, they usually vote 65, 70% or more for the left.
00:15:06.980 Obviously blacks are considered a monolithic voting block for the left, but there's always
00:15:11.360 like 10% of blacks who vote conservative and there's, you know, the 20, 30% of Jews who
00:15:16.060 vote conservative.
00:15:17.140 There's the 20, 30% of Asians that vote conservative.
00:15:20.220 So again, it's, you know, it's, it's not all we, we, we can find some of the worst human
00:15:24.960 beings.
00:15:25.520 Yeah.
00:15:25.980 What's the Nick land quote, uh, never become so racist that you forget that the worst people
00:15:31.020 in the world are, uh, are, are, uh, white leftists.
00:15:34.600 Uh, but ultimately when we're just looking at the wide demographic spread, when we're just
00:15:38.820 looking at the raw numbers, you can predict how a election is going to go by how many white
00:15:44.980 people are in an area.
00:15:46.060 If it's more, you're probably going to get a conservative.
00:15:48.380 It's a less, you're probably going to get a liberal again, not all that across the board,
00:15:52.280 not every time, but this is generally how it works.
00:15:55.480 And the left knows this, this is not a crazy right-wing talking point.
00:15:58.960 It's the left's strategy.
00:16:01.020 It's what the state department openly admits is the left's strategy.
00:16:05.340 So there's no confusion here about for anybody, except for some reason, conservatives about
00:16:11.400 how this works.
00:16:12.520 And Elon Musk is aware of this, which is what he says.
00:16:15.840 He points out like, look there, it's a hatred of white people, but it's also like politically
00:16:20.200 advantageous for these people to replace the white population.
00:16:23.660 But even though that is something that, that the Democrats will announce out loud and can
00:16:29.940 also be revealed in undercover videos of the state department, I promise you this video
00:16:35.340 is going to end up getting the wrong thing badge for the great replacement under it.
00:16:38.680 I've had it happen several times to this day, YouTube, if you have anything mentioning demographic
00:16:43.760 replacement in your title or in your description, we'll flag your video as having wrong think
00:16:50.400 on it.
00:16:50.680 You'll get the little Wikipedia saying, this is a conspiracy theory, even better.
00:16:54.140 It's a white nationalist conspiracy theory, even though it's literally what the Democrats
00:16:57.940 announced their plan to be, even though it's literally what the state department says the
00:17:02.240 Democrats plan is.
00:17:04.660 It's listed as a conspiracy because that's what they want you to believe.
00:17:08.140 They don't want you to actually think about it or look at it.
00:17:11.280 So obviously, Elon Musk is very aware of this problem, right?
00:17:15.760 Like he grasps the dire nature of what is going on, the sinister nature of what is being leveled
00:17:22.900 at European Americans.
00:17:24.240 Again, it is bad to wipe out any racial group.
00:17:27.760 It is bad to try to ethnically cleanse this place, America, just like it's bad to ethnically
00:17:34.780 cleanse other places.
00:17:35.720 So this isn't like, oh, you only need to protect European civilization or it's only
00:17:40.480 bad to ethnically cleanse Europeans.
00:17:42.480 No, I think it's bad to do that in general.
00:17:44.580 But we don't talk about why it's bad for whites, even though we acknowledge it's bad
00:17:48.980 for every other group.
00:17:50.100 So when we have people openly stating, yeah, it's our intention to ethnically cleanse
00:17:54.500 America because we have to make it less white so Democrats can win more elections, I think
00:18:00.500 it's reasonable to come out and say that's a problem.
00:18:02.840 Like the fact that we have such a difficulty acknowledging that when we would call it out
00:18:07.520 immediately anywhere else is just insane.
00:18:11.660 Right.
00:18:12.180 I hear a lot of people whining about the ethnic cleansing in Israel and Gaza and all that
00:18:16.620 Palestinians.
00:18:17.240 And yeah, fair enough.
00:18:18.820 But I often don't hear those same people spending a whole lot of time talking about the ethnic
00:18:22.980 cleansing happening here in Europe.
00:18:24.480 And not always, of course, there are people who are opposed to what Israel is doing right
00:18:29.600 now that also, you know, point out demographic problems in Europe and in America.
00:18:35.580 But I see them far more obsessed with whatever's happening in Gaza than they are the ongoing
00:18:40.280 thing that's happening in Europe and the United States as we speak.
00:18:43.120 So if Elon understands all this stuff, what's with the H-1B support right now?
00:18:52.080 I'll say this.
00:18:53.200 It's been a while.
00:18:54.220 It's been a, you know, it's been over a year since Elon's famous Christmas crash out on
00:18:58.120 the H-1Bs where he and Vivek went nuts and started fighting and threatening.
00:19:02.220 And, you know, it was Elon who was that really, to be fair, Vivek's original post was bad.
00:19:07.180 It was very bad.
00:19:07.860 But it was Elon that really decided to get in there and knife fight over it, constantly
00:19:11.400 be hitting it, constantly be attacking people on it.
00:19:14.900 And so it's but it has been over a year since that happened.
00:19:18.540 And it could be that things have just gotten worse.
00:19:20.700 And Elon has recognized how bad they've gotten.
00:19:23.980 Maybe he has changed his mind over the time.
00:19:28.080 I don't know.
00:19:29.340 I if he has, he hasn't really announced that he hasn't said, OK, I understand I was wrong
00:19:33.580 about H-1Bs.
00:19:34.540 I'm looking at what's happening in Europe and America.
00:19:38.200 I understand the seriousness of mass immigration.
00:19:40.980 I understand H-1Bs are part of that.
00:19:43.460 And so I need to, you know, kind of step back and change and reformulate how I understand
00:19:49.620 immigration.
00:19:50.780 Maybe he is doing that, but he hasn't announced that.
00:19:53.880 And so I can only really go off of where he is right now that I know.
00:19:59.580 I maybe he has changed his mind, but the last update we had was despite recognizing these
00:20:05.440 obvious problems, he is not addressing them when it comes to what he thinks of as high
00:20:11.780 skilled immigration.
00:20:12.920 Now, I think this is a fallacy in itself.
00:20:14.960 Obviously, we have a lot of H-1Bs coming into the United States and very few of them are
00:20:18.880 actually high skilled immigration.
00:20:20.220 We have a lot of people coming in H-1Bs for entry level jobs, internships, things that
00:20:26.520 are not, you know, high skill, that are not something you need a seasoned veteran for.
00:20:32.140 They're literally coming in at the entry level, which is the definition of not needing that
00:20:37.360 high skill H-1B.
00:20:38.860 And yet it happens all the time.
00:20:40.380 Now, for Elon, maybe he used more of those, right?
00:20:42.840 Maybe he uses far more high skilled H-1Bs than most people while everyone else is, you
00:20:48.560 know, bringing in guys to undercut a programmer or, you know, manage a 7-Eleven.
00:20:54.280 Elon is saying, actually, no, I really am bringing in some really bright guys who are just doing
00:20:59.740 something no one else is doing.
00:21:00.860 Maybe he's the one guy who's using the H-1B correctly.
00:21:03.400 I don't know.
00:21:04.100 I can't say I've done an audit of all of his companies and who he brings in.
00:21:07.900 So maybe his experience with H-1B workers is different, but he needs to be smart enough.
00:21:14.600 I mean, he's a smart guy.
00:21:16.140 He needs to be, I guess, wise enough is the better word here to apply, you know, to be
00:21:22.520 able to see beyond his own experience.
00:21:24.200 Okay, maybe you, Elon Musk, running SpaceX and Tesla are getting like the cream of the
00:21:29.940 crop of the H-1Bs.
00:21:31.320 And so your experience is every H-1B guy I bring over here is a rocket scientist.
00:21:35.460 So yeah, of course they're great.
00:21:36.900 Okay, maybe I still have problems with that, but I guess I can at least sympathize with
00:21:42.000 having that narrow experience.
00:21:44.340 And maybe he simply needs to be able to project himself into these other industries where it's
00:21:50.040 clear that the H-1B is being used as an ethnic replacement tool.
00:21:53.420 Because remember, about 80% of H-1B workers are Indian.
00:21:57.880 That stat is staggering.
00:21:59.620 Of all the countries that could use H-1B, 80% almost is coming from one country and that
00:22:09.120 country is India.
00:22:10.520 And I'm sorry, but the IQ in India is not 130, right?
00:22:15.380 Like that's not the average IQ there.
00:22:16.920 Now, when you have a billion people, you're going to have some percentage of the smartest
00:22:20.900 people in the world.
00:22:21.400 That's just how numbers work, right?
00:22:23.500 You got a bell curve, you got a big enough bell curve.
00:22:26.100 Once you get to that, you know, 130, 140 IQ, if you got it one, you know, over a billion
00:22:31.240 people in country, you're going to have some geniuses.
00:22:33.320 Like that's going to happen.
00:22:34.860 So initially you could see why some percentage would come from there, but there's no way
00:22:39.760 that 80% of all of the best workers that are supposed to be coming in on H-1B are all
00:22:45.240 coming from India.
00:22:45.980 That's just not the case.
00:22:47.360 So it's obviously a tool of ethnic patronage.
00:22:51.220 That's what the H-1B is.
00:22:53.220 That's why Indians in America, like Vivek and, you know, others, I think Nikki Haley is
00:22:59.700 also on this list, though I know her son isn't.
00:23:02.700 But that's why they tend to be big backers of the H-1B because they're using it to bring
00:23:07.960 their co-ethnics in.
00:23:09.140 That's really all there is to it.
00:23:10.760 It's not super complicated.
00:23:12.480 They want to bring as much of the Indian diaspora into the United States as they can.
00:23:15.700 And the H-1B is the best vehicle to do so.
00:23:18.700 And so you think if Elon Musk would understand the problems of demographic replacement, he
00:23:25.020 would see this.
00:23:25.520 Now, don't get me wrong.
00:23:26.460 He's against illegal immigration, and that's great.
00:23:28.880 Illegal immigration is downed a lot by the way.
00:23:31.700 Remember, Trump has basically turned it into a non-issue overnight, which is massive.
00:23:37.340 I want to remind people again, anyone telling you we would have been better under Kamala Harris
00:23:41.840 or, you know, you're going to be better under Gavin Newsom than the administration that's
00:23:46.700 bringing you literally, like, basically zero illegal immigration.
00:23:52.520 Okay.
00:23:53.000 Like, that person's obviously a bad actor.
00:23:55.420 That's obviously bad faith.
00:23:57.080 You can say you don't like a lot of what the Trump administration is doing.
00:23:59.980 You can say you're disappointed.
00:24:01.040 They're not serious enough.
00:24:02.840 They're not, you know, taking every action you want.
00:24:04.840 Fine.
00:24:05.080 But the delusion that they're somehow, like, worse than the Democrats or you would have
00:24:09.680 been better off with Kamala Harris because, like, I don't know, it's going to accelerate
00:24:14.540 things and things will get worse.
00:24:15.900 And then people will really vote for the true, the true, you know, reactionary leader.
00:24:21.500 That's not how it works.
00:24:22.620 You would just have more illegal immigrants in your country who would skew the vote even
00:24:26.900 further left because we're still a democracy.
00:24:29.800 So unless you've got an armed revolution hiding in your pocket, you've got to figure out how to
00:24:34.380 win votes and you win votes by not bringing in more of Democrat voters.
00:24:38.140 If that, if the Democrat party, their entire goal, as explained by a State Department official
00:24:43.160 is to bring in as many people who aren't white into the country to vote against you.
00:24:47.300 If that's the plan, then it's probably in your interest to do the opposite of that plan.
00:24:53.060 Whatever the opposite of that plan is, you know, like closing the border and not allowing
00:24:56.500 these people in, that's probably where your interests lie.
00:24:59.040 Okay.
00:24:59.240 So obviously you're in a scenario where you are benefiting heavily from Donald Trump shutting
00:25:05.900 down illegal immigration.
00:25:07.460 But the issue that has continually been a battle after Donald Trump came in is legal immigration
00:25:13.720 because it's not just illegal immigration.
00:25:15.640 That is the problem.
00:25:16.860 There are millions of people becoming American every year from outside this country.
00:25:21.520 And the majority of them are not going to be natural conservatives.
00:25:24.320 In fact, we never get natural conservatives.
00:25:27.540 Anyone telling you that this, this one ethnic group is going to be a natural conservative?
00:25:31.720 They're lying to you.
00:25:33.700 Foreigners are not conservative.
00:25:35.700 They're individually.
00:25:37.040 There could be, right?
00:25:38.420 I think the last actually conservative wave of immigration we got was the Cubans.
00:25:43.180 And they literally were all the people who are escaping communism.
00:25:46.460 So that's probably your best indication of like, if you have an entire population fleeing radical
00:25:57.360 leftist tyranny, they might be a natural conservative.
00:26:01.020 But outside of that, the idea that we're going to get more of any given ethnicity and they're
00:26:05.480 just because they got families and maybe they're not big on gay marriage, they're going to vote
00:26:09.420 Republican.
00:26:10.460 Well, guess what?
00:26:11.100 The black community doesn't like gay marriage and they vote Democrat.
00:26:13.300 You know, the natural, then there's no natural conservatism there.
00:26:19.180 Same with Hispanics, same with, you know, Jews and Indians and everyone else.
00:26:23.080 You look at the numbers, they don't vote conservative.
00:26:26.280 They just don't.
00:26:27.440 And bringing more of them here is not going to solve that problem.
00:26:30.740 So obviously, when you have a lot of mass immigration coming in through the jobs programs,
00:26:37.660 you're going to have a culture shift.
00:26:40.340 Now, a lot of people say, well, Oren, you know, illegal immigration was millions of people
00:26:45.740 a year coming up and there's a there's a cap on on the H-1B.
00:26:49.260 So how bad can it be?
00:26:50.360 How many bad?
00:26:51.020 How bad can it be?
00:26:52.140 Well, the problem is that the H-1B is not a temporary worker program because we have
00:26:58.640 birthright citizenship.
00:26:59.400 So the minute an Indian person hits the ground in the United States, if they or their wife
00:27:06.680 pops out a kid, they're going to be here.
00:27:10.280 The immigration issue is solved and they're here now.
00:27:13.360 So, yes, technically, there is a theoretical cap which gets, you know, relatively, they're
00:27:20.760 pretty loose with it.
00:27:21.600 But there is a cap on how many H-1B workers are going to come in.
00:27:26.860 But those people are they're permanent residents, basically.
00:27:31.040 They're they're they're not there.
00:27:32.220 It's not a temporary work visa like it's supposed to be.
00:27:35.260 It's not, oh, they come over here.
00:27:36.620 They fill that job for a couple of years and they go home.
00:27:38.660 No, that's not what happens.
00:27:40.680 Once they're here, they're going to stay here and then they're going to bring their family
00:27:43.960 across and they're going to have more kids.
00:27:45.940 And all of a sudden, that one Indian tech worker becomes 20, 30, 40 votes for Democrats,
00:27:53.720 because if you look at the numbers, they vote 70 percent Democrat.
00:27:57.200 I hate to break this to you, but the Indian population you're bringing in through the H-1Bs
00:28:01.800 is a Democrat constituency.
00:28:03.920 They just bought off the Republican Party, so they'll shut up about it.
00:28:07.880 I've seen this battle, man.
00:28:09.180 Like I when the first NatCon I went to, it was so obvious that India was basically fighting
00:28:15.020 to like become this model minority inside the Republican Party, even though the majority
00:28:19.240 of them are going to vote left.
00:28:20.840 Like they had this massive presence, you know, they're like you had Indian leaders and, you
00:28:25.720 know, talking about how a billion Indians are standing behind you.
00:28:28.760 No, they're not.
00:28:29.640 They're standing behind the Democratic Party.
00:28:31.440 And so when you have this H-1B scenario, you're bringing in lots of people.
00:28:36.100 And of course, remember, that's just one visa.
00:28:37.620 Then you have student visas and everything else, you know, exceptional visas, tourist visas,
00:28:44.120 all this stuff that's constantly letting people legally into the country.
00:28:49.760 But the minute, you know, they have a kid or, you know, they find some kind of application
00:28:54.180 for asylum or something, they're here now.
00:28:56.760 And for some reason, Elon just doesn't see the dichotomy in that, that he's in one instance
00:29:03.180 calling for, you know, the end of the Great Replacement, but is running a key arm of the
00:29:13.480 Great Replacement.
00:29:14.240 Now, it's the least malicious one, I guess, compared to illegal immigration, but it's still
00:29:20.140 malicious.
00:29:20.640 Because remember, you're not just bringing these people in.
00:29:23.460 You're putting them theoretically, if you're actually using the visa the way it was supposed
00:29:27.140 to be good, you're putting it in them into important positions.
00:29:30.400 These are not guys picking fruit.
00:29:33.040 These are not guys mowing your lawn.
00:29:35.000 These are guys who are taking high level positions in important companies, right?
00:29:40.980 Again, if it's being used correctly, many of them aren't, but some percentage of them are,
00:29:45.400 which means they're going to become elite.
00:29:47.420 They're going to become leaders.
00:29:50.040 They're going to lead their companies.
00:29:51.960 They're going to have influence in the United States.
00:29:54.720 Their children are going to go to prestigious schools.
00:29:58.300 They're going to replace your elite as well.
00:30:01.240 So in some ways, this is actually worse, because at least when it's illegal immigration,
00:30:05.840 the majority of people coming in are only going to replace your lower working class.
00:30:09.860 Now, that's its own problem, because obviously we don't want to see working class wages go
00:30:14.080 down.
00:30:14.500 We don't want to see the quality of living for our working class Americans go down, housing,
00:30:18.360 everything else that gets impacted at that level.
00:30:21.880 So it's still very bad.
00:30:23.240 But in a way, the elite immigration is worse because it's moving into your elite.
00:30:28.880 It's moving into your ruling class.
00:30:30.940 And they're going to bring that ethnic solidarity, that clannishness into those positions.
00:30:38.140 They're going to bring their understanding.
00:30:39.640 I mean, look at Vivek.
00:30:41.260 Oh, American culture.
00:30:42.800 It's not as good as Indian culture.
00:30:44.260 Can't you guys just learn to stop watching Saved by the Bell and spend all your time studying
00:30:49.680 spelling B words?
00:30:50.580 You know, that's the attitude that's going to get brought in by guys like that.
00:30:54.680 There's a reason this guy is a disaster of a candidate in Ohio at this point, because
00:30:59.160 like even the Democrat is running ads saying, hey, this guy hates white people.
00:31:02.580 This guy hates America.
00:31:04.840 Because, I mean, it's hard to not notice that level of kind of ethnic resentment and nepotism
00:31:09.940 inside these communities.
00:31:12.100 And again, I don't really begrudge this, honestly, from a lot of people.
00:31:16.960 It's what people do.
00:31:18.740 People are by nature tribal.
00:31:20.580 They are by nature clannish.
00:31:23.320 And to some extent, it's our fault for importing people with that mentality.
00:31:26.880 But we got to stop.
00:31:28.800 Like, whether it's their fault or whether it's the fault of the elites importing them, the
00:31:31.820 point is you just can't do this.
00:31:33.820 And Elon has to grasp that.
00:31:35.420 He has to get it.
00:31:36.940 Now, there's a lot of contradictions like this, right?
00:31:38.800 Like, Elon always has this problem, has this problem with the birth rate, right?
00:31:43.700 He'll talk about, oh, why don't we have higher birth rates?
00:31:46.740 You know, humans need to have more children.
00:31:48.920 Everybody should have more children.
00:31:50.060 Americans need to have more children.
00:31:51.700 White people need to have more children.
00:31:53.480 But then he turns around and he starts releasing like these AI girlfriends so that, you know,
00:31:59.060 lonely guys can not have to go out and find a woman.
00:32:02.380 They can just spend all their time talking to their AI girlfriend.
00:32:05.540 And so Elon has this like truly Faustian, you know, dichotomy where on one hand, he sees
00:32:13.580 the problem.
00:32:14.080 We need more births.
00:32:15.780 We need to stop, you know, removing white people from their native lands, replacing them
00:32:21.420 with other people.
00:32:22.360 But then when it comes to his business ventures, when it comes to his ability to do things
00:32:26.040 and make things, Elon completely forgets all those consequences.
00:32:29.780 He completely forgets like the things that he's doing are actually going to have an impact
00:32:33.900 on what he says are his values, the principles he espouses.
00:32:39.020 And so you have this real problem where Elon just can't seem to grasp that he has to take
00:32:45.800 the things he believes, the things he espouses and apply them to his business practices to
00:32:51.160 actually limit what he wants to do with his businesses, even though that's very important
00:32:57.620 to him.
00:32:57.900 Like he has to prioritize the people in the nation over this.
00:33:01.280 And I wonder in some ways if it's because he's an immigrant, you know, when he sees
00:33:06.400 Europe or South Africa, he starts talking about the great replacement.
00:33:09.320 When it comes to America, he starts describing us as a sports team and you got to get the
00:33:12.500 best people on your sports team.
00:33:14.220 Well, why is America a sports team, but Europeans have a homeland?
00:33:18.580 Why is that?
00:33:19.560 Is it because Elon doesn't really think of himself as an American or he thinks of America as just
00:33:24.960 a collection of people making money?
00:33:26.980 I don't know.
00:33:27.900 I genuinely don't know.
00:33:29.240 Or it could just be that this is the problem of like the merchant class, the technocratic
00:33:33.120 class, right?
00:33:34.460 Like, yes, abstractly, Elon has these values and understands the problem.
00:33:39.680 But when it comes down to making money and making things happen, he's always going to side
00:33:44.640 with commerce.
00:33:45.300 He's always going to side with money power because that's all he really knows how to
00:33:49.260 use.
00:33:49.740 That's the only way he understands how to value things.
00:33:51.880 He's a business minded.
00:33:53.160 He's money minded.
00:33:54.680 All of his goals are included in that understanding of the world.
00:33:59.360 And so maybe it's simply like just the form of how he has become an elite has made it possible
00:34:04.880 for him to see the problems that kind of arise when there's that clash between his ideology
00:34:11.060 and then like his practical goals.
00:34:13.420 Again, I don't know exactly what it is.
00:34:15.320 I'd love to ask him if someone said, oh, can you have him on to to have an interview or
00:34:19.400 talk about this?
00:34:20.060 And the answer is, man, if you got a if you've got a number, please let me know.
00:34:26.240 If you can figure out how to help me get Elon on the show to ask him these questions,
00:34:30.280 I would be very grateful.
00:34:32.200 But yeah, that's really what I just want to talk about is like there is this mentality
00:34:37.660 and it really is in a way kind of the boomer mentality of like I see a problem, but I am
00:34:43.600 simply unwilling to sacrifice the material comforts and like the the infinite line go up
00:34:49.000 mentality to to address this problem.
00:34:51.420 This and this is to be fair, like a conservative problem.
00:34:54.060 It's a libertarian problem.
00:34:55.260 Just everybody who's obsessed with money and markets over, you know, their history, their
00:35:02.820 heritage, their tradition, their religion, their understanding as a people like anytime
00:35:08.000 you're just going to put money and process and achievement technologically over that, you're
00:35:13.480 going to produce predictable results like that orient how you orient your goals will
00:35:20.720 ultimately manifest itself.
00:35:22.980 Right. Like you can say, oh, well, I value this or I value that.
00:35:26.700 But really, you know, your your true actions, your true incentives, your true desires, they're
00:35:32.780 going to be formulated.
00:35:34.140 They're going to like kind of manifest themselves when you then pursue those things.
00:35:38.840 Right. If he if he had placed the tradition and like identity and purpose and well-being
00:35:45.840 of the country he lived in first and that had been the orienting understanding of what he
00:35:51.020 was about to do, then, you know, perhaps he would have changed his business practice.
00:35:56.120 He would recognize this dichotomy that exists between his business interests and the ideological
00:36:02.340 concerns or the, you know, the larger concerns that he is trying to address.
00:36:07.000 But because he cannot orient himself in that way, it does not manifest itself.
00:36:12.860 So I hope I'm hoping that I mean, he's really been hitting this like daily, like daily.
00:36:19.420 Elon Musk is now talking about white replacement, the great replacement, demographic transformation,
00:36:25.160 anti-white hatred.
00:36:26.000 Like we are seeing multiple posts a day from Elon on this topic.
00:36:30.160 So I'm hoping he's moving this direction.
00:36:32.460 I hope he's coming to address this.
00:36:34.440 I'm sure that with the, you know, kind of the crash out he had last Christmas and kind
00:36:39.540 of what it seems to be his healing with the Trump administration, you know, he's he was
00:36:43.000 at Charlie Kirk's funeral.
00:36:44.800 It seemed like he and Trump were like kind of putting the building blocks back together
00:36:48.660 after all of that.
00:36:49.960 Maybe he is recognizing that.
00:36:51.440 I hope he's on a journey to getting to kind of reconciling these things because he's one
00:36:55.320 of the most important men in the world, arguably the most important man in the world.
00:36:58.700 And the things he cares about, the things he understand in the way he's pursuing things
00:37:03.420 matters quite a bit.
00:37:04.780 So he's already a mouthpiece to point out these problems, which is already a massive
00:37:08.380 win and a huge leap from where we were.
00:37:11.620 But I hope he continues down that road and recognizes the cost of what he is trying to
00:37:18.400 impose through his business on what he says are his wider concerns about the future of the
00:37:26.240 America and Europe and the West in general.
00:37:28.860 All right.
00:37:29.180 So I also wanted to talk about a few other things.
00:37:32.180 Obviously, we had the storming of the church with Don Lemon and his crew earlier in the
00:37:39.700 week on Sunday.
00:37:41.360 Now, a lot of people were immediately saying, you know, where are the arrests?
00:37:45.420 Where are the arrests?
00:37:45.980 Now, I was one of those people saying we need arrests.
00:37:48.680 But I knew, especially given that this is a federal issue and you have Martin Luther King
00:37:54.840 Day on that Monday, the courts are closed.
00:37:57.160 It was going to take a couple of days to make this happen.
00:37:59.080 I had Will Chamberlain on my show to explain how and why this would happen.
00:38:04.000 He said it was going to happen within the next 96 hours.
00:38:06.520 I think it happened at like hour 92.
00:38:09.120 So he got right in there.
00:38:11.520 He got right in on the line as to when that was going to happen.
00:38:14.840 So the good news is that there are now three arrests, not as many as I had hoped, but more
00:38:19.880 than a lot of people expected.
00:38:21.140 It was a lot of nothing will happen.
00:38:23.040 Nobody will go to jail.
00:38:24.460 No one's going to get charged.
00:38:25.740 The Trump administration won't do anything.
00:38:28.500 That was not the case.
00:38:29.800 Sorry, it just wasn't the case.
00:38:32.100 There was a happening.
00:38:33.880 Nothing ever happens.
00:38:34.820 Bros were wrong.
00:38:36.240 The Trump administration is never going to do anything.
00:38:38.280 Bros were wrong.
00:38:39.800 Something did happen.
00:38:41.600 And it's not insignificant.
00:38:43.180 So the people arrested were, what was that guy's name?
00:38:47.460 William Kelly, I believe, which was the big, angry, bearded guy screaming at people, insulting
00:38:52.300 people, intimidating people, who's probably the easiest charge for them to ultimately lay
00:38:56.860 down.
00:38:57.220 So he was charged.
00:38:59.760 You also had Nakima Lee Armstrong.
00:39:04.120 She is a Black Lives Matter activist, and she has organized multiple protests like this.
00:39:11.780 She is involved in the management of the organization.
00:39:13.900 So that's a significant one because that's not just some random street guy that happened
00:39:18.460 to come into the protest.
00:39:20.780 That's a real significant leader figure on the left, person who's guilty of kind of multiple
00:39:28.380 operations like this, someone who's been probably funneling money and all this other stuff.
00:39:33.400 And so that's a key hit, not only because it gets her, but there's a possibility there
00:39:38.180 that if you're putting together, I don't know, a RICO case after the Charlie Kirk assassination,
00:39:42.880 you could maybe connect these things in some way.
00:39:45.980 There's a Black Lives Matter activist who's involved in conspiracy to deny civil rights.
00:39:53.020 She's convicted.
00:39:54.120 Oh, look, she also works for this Black Lives Matter organization.
00:39:56.840 Oh, that Black Lives Matter organization is receiving funding from a Soros NGO.
00:40:00.540 Oh, I wonder if that Soros NGO has any influence on her taking these actions.
00:40:04.580 And all of a sudden, you can start rolling that stuff up.
00:40:06.400 So I hope that that conviction will make other convictions easier, assuming, of course, that
00:40:11.360 there would be a conviction.
00:40:13.160 And then there was another, a third person arrested as well.
00:40:17.820 So, so far, three arrests.
00:40:19.080 Now, I think it was around 20 people entered the church.
00:40:21.420 So I was hoping for more arrests.
00:40:23.300 I would really like to see the Trump administration to push for as many as they can get.
00:40:26.780 The one that everyone is very disappointed in, including me, is Don Lemon.
00:40:30.440 Don Lemon was not charged.
00:40:32.000 And to be clear, it's not because the Trump administration didn't try.
00:40:35.060 It's not that the Trump administration just didn't bother to file papers.
00:40:38.400 Don Lemon was, a request was placed, a complaint was placed in front of a federal magistrate in
00:40:46.600 Minnesota, and they refused to sign it.
00:40:49.380 So you could not get the grand jury indictment.
00:40:52.980 You couldn't get the, you know, the arrest warrant.
00:40:56.780 So that is very frustrating.
00:41:01.560 And I very much hope that the Trump administration is not going to stop here.
00:41:04.960 Okay, I understand why they didn't arrest him.
00:41:08.000 You can't get the federal order signed.
00:41:10.160 That's a larger problem with judges.
00:41:11.740 We can talk about the Republican Congress, especially the Senate, what a garbage it is
00:41:15.980 and how useless it is for the thousandth time.
00:41:18.800 But the Trump administration can only do so much because of that scenario.
00:41:22.240 However, what they can do is try to figure out other avenues.
00:41:25.220 You know, can we shop the venue?
00:41:26.960 Can we get a different judge?
00:41:28.280 Is there a different type of charge we think is more likely to stick that we can get a judge
00:41:31.920 to sign on?
00:41:33.020 Is there some way in which we can encourage the parishioners to bring civil suits against
00:41:39.500 Don Lemon to punish him that way?
00:41:41.440 There are many, many opportunities to punish Don Lemon.
00:41:44.900 And I hope that the Trump administration takes them.
00:41:47.640 I hope that the parishioners of that church take them.
00:41:49.640 In fact, here is my, you know, here's me offering my aid.
00:41:54.400 If you are a parishioner of that church, if Don Lemon broke into your church and stopped
00:41:59.320 your worship service, if there is any way in which I can help raise money for, raise
00:42:05.160 awareness of, or whatever, a lawsuit you're bringing against Don Lemon, let me know and
00:42:09.680 I will help you in whatever capacity I can.
00:42:12.680 As much as I can use my platform to raise money, raise awareness, you know, make connections,
00:42:17.840 whatever.
00:42:18.100 However, if you are bringing criminal or if you're bringing civil charges, if you're bringing
00:42:21.420 a lawsuit against Don Lemon, let me know.
00:42:24.020 If you have any interests, let me know.
00:42:26.160 I will do whatever I can to make that happen.
00:42:28.840 Okay.
00:42:29.060 So that's, that's my personal willingness to, to be a part of this solution.
00:42:33.980 But there are many ways you can go after Don Lemon and that should be done.
00:42:38.500 Now, this puts us in a bit of a scenario because I said, look, the, the Trump administration
00:42:43.820 has to do something on this and they did, they did something pretending they didn't do
00:42:47.620 something is dumb.
00:42:49.040 They absolutely did something.
00:42:50.900 But I think you got to get Don Lemon on this.
00:42:52.980 I really do.
00:42:53.560 I think it's actually very important to know that leftists pretending to be journalists
00:43:00.200 do not get to coordinate terror attacks.
00:43:03.500 Like, I think that really matters.
00:43:05.420 I don't think Don Lemon gets to skip out on being a terrorist because he was on a journalist
00:43:10.040 on CNN for a while.
00:43:11.820 I don't think he gets to scare children.
00:43:13.480 I don't think he gets to, you know, mock children fleeing their, their church because
00:43:17.900 he wants to intimidate them as he admitted openly and repeatedly.
00:43:20.960 Like Don Lemon said openly, he likes to scare Christian children.
00:43:25.900 I'm going to say that again.
00:43:27.360 Don Lemon said openly and repeatedly, he enjoys scaring Christian children.
00:43:34.520 He feels it necessary.
00:43:36.880 He wants them to be afraid.
00:43:38.280 He wants them to be uncomfortable.
00:43:39.900 That's what Don Lemon wants.
00:43:41.320 That was his stated attention and intention.
00:43:44.220 That guy needs to go to jail or he needs to be sued into oblivion.
00:43:47.700 So I'm glad that the Trump administration took action.
00:43:52.100 They took action in as timely manner as they could.
00:43:55.200 They got several key people to be charged.
00:43:59.520 They attempted to get Don Lemon charged.
00:44:01.880 It's not like they gave him a free pass, but they literally just had an activist judge
00:44:05.280 say, no, I'm not going to sign this.
00:44:07.800 I don't think it should end there, but let's, let's cut these guys some level of slack and
00:44:12.260 give them some level of credit on this.
00:44:14.280 Things were done.
00:44:15.560 Punish was meted out.
00:44:16.400 Now, obviously we got to go through the court process, whole thing.
00:44:19.620 They might be convicted.
00:44:20.660 They might not.
00:44:21.500 There's only so much the Trump administration could do about every one of those steps, but
00:44:25.380 the Trump administration did take action here and they did attempt to go after Don
00:44:29.200 Lemon, but there's only so much you can do when the judicial system is in the scenario
00:44:34.840 it's in.
00:44:35.280 Now, maybe the ultimate answer is that the Trump administration has to just ignore judges,
00:44:39.420 do whatever they have to do.
00:44:40.800 I think that's probably true at some level, though, probably not on this one.
00:44:44.320 This is probably not the one thing you want to start ignoring judges on.
00:44:47.580 You should start ignoring them when it comes to deportations or something like that.
00:44:50.580 Not this.
00:44:51.580 However, you know, at this level, at this point, there is some level at which the GOP is bound
00:44:57.880 by law.
00:44:58.360 And the Trump administration is bound by law.
00:45:01.380 Now, I don't think that's an excuse.
00:45:03.880 I think the Republican in Congress is insane and stupid and useless and full of cowards
00:45:08.500 and, you know, that the GOP is just controlled opposition in a large, large degree.
00:45:13.880 But within that, the Trump administration is obviously taking actions that no other Republican
00:45:18.520 administration would have taken.
00:45:19.840 And you have to remember that, guys.
00:45:21.200 You just have to.
00:45:22.080 OK, I know it can be frustrating.
00:45:24.140 I know that there are aspects of the Trump administration that are not ideal.
00:45:27.160 I am 100 percent on board with you on that.
00:45:29.280 I'm fine vocalizing that.
00:45:31.080 I am the guy who says sometimes you got a chimp.
00:45:33.580 OK, so it's not like I'm pretending that's not an issue.
00:45:37.180 But we we should have the ability to say, OK, even if they're wrong on some things, when
00:45:42.520 they get something right, we're going to praise them and we're going to encourage them to
00:45:45.520 do more.
00:45:46.060 And the Trump administration did bring charges.
00:45:48.000 They did get key members.
00:45:49.340 They did try to get Don Lemon.
00:45:51.860 I just want to encourage them to continue to do that, to continue to push, to continue
00:45:57.180 to be aggressive, to not let this go, to be dogged with this.
00:46:01.580 It really matters.
00:46:02.660 It really matters.
00:46:03.300 And finally, before we go, I wanted to mention that violent crime is down, that murders are
00:46:08.980 down about 20 percent across Americans, major American cities under Donald Trump.
00:46:16.040 This is being listed as a hundred year low when it comes to violent crime in the United
00:46:22.300 States.
00:46:22.580 So even though we're seeing these crazy leftists doing all this stuff, all this violence in
00:46:28.620 America, we're still seeing a drop in the murder rate.
00:46:32.640 We're still seeing a 20 percent reduction, a history setting level of violent crime, that
00:46:40.740 big of a drop, a historic drop in violent crime in major American cities.
00:46:45.380 That's huge, right?
00:46:47.180 So again, whether it's immigration or it's violent crime, remember, whatever you feel
00:46:53.780 about the Trump administration, you're in much better shape because they're in power.
00:46:58.060 That's really all there is to it.
00:46:59.940 You know, the illegals are being deported.
00:47:02.440 The left is at least seeing some level of punishment and pushback.
00:47:06.420 Violent crime is down.
00:47:07.680 This is the reality in Trump's America.
00:47:10.220 Sorry.
00:47:10.700 Like, again, you can have all the problems you want with him on foreign policy or, you
00:47:15.160 know, he's too buddy-buddy with Israel or whatever.
00:47:17.740 But the reality on the ground is your family is safer.
00:47:21.340 There are fewer illegals.
00:47:22.780 The border is closed because of Donald Trump.
00:47:26.160 That's that's really all there is to it.
00:47:27.940 And it's not some mystery.
00:47:30.300 Donald Trump is willing to prosecute.
00:47:34.060 He's willing to bring charges.
00:47:36.100 He's willing to carry out deportations, which removes violent criminals from our streets.
00:47:42.420 He's willing to go in to places like Washington, D.C. and enforce law and order with the National
00:47:47.640 Guard if necessary.
00:47:49.180 Donald Trump is willing to take direct action to reduce crime in American cities.
00:47:52.900 And it's working.
00:47:53.780 Like, the numbers are there.
00:47:56.160 It's provable.
00:47:57.180 We're seeing a drop in murder rates because of what's going on.
00:48:01.600 The policies of the Trump administration are working.
00:48:05.920 Getting violent immigrants off the street, getting violent illegals off the street is working.
00:48:11.820 Bringing the National Guard in to clean up American cities is working.
00:48:16.460 The murder rates are going down.
00:48:18.780 The murder rate in Washington, D.C. plummeted once the National Guard hits the streets there.
00:48:24.220 So we need to start giving credit where it's due on this stuff.
00:48:27.220 Again, it doesn't mean you don't push them on stuff.
00:48:29.740 It doesn't mean we don't keep saying Don Lemon needs to go to jail.
00:48:32.240 It doesn't mean we don't keep saying we need more deportations.
00:48:35.560 Higher deportation doesn't mean we don't keep saying I need to see penalties for business
00:48:40.060 owners.
00:48:40.760 And we need to see more E-Verify.
00:48:42.940 And we need to see taxes on remittances.
00:48:44.780 And we need to see, you know, the removal of benefits for illegals.
00:48:48.820 It's all the stuff we need to keep pushing for.
00:48:51.440 We need to keep chimping on that stuff.
00:48:53.700 I'm not turning away from any of that.
00:48:55.240 But we have to recognize violent crime down, immigration down, you know, leftists going
00:48:59.560 to jail for harassing Christians with laws that used to be used to throw conservatives
00:49:06.380 in jail.
00:49:06.980 These are all wins.
00:49:08.240 And you've got to be willing to take wins.
00:49:10.000 Now, they're important.
00:49:11.840 They're obvious.
00:49:13.120 They're significant.
00:49:14.480 But they aren't sufficient.
00:49:16.240 And that's fine.
00:49:17.140 You can say that.
00:49:17.780 You can say the Trump administration is winning.
00:49:20.020 The Trump administration is doing good things.
00:49:21.980 But it's not enough.
00:49:22.720 It needs to do more.
00:49:23.600 I'm fine with that.
00:49:24.440 That's completely reasonable.
00:49:26.540 But it is winning.
00:49:27.640 And it is doing these things.
00:49:28.760 And it is reaching those accomplishments.
00:49:30.040 And it is better than any Republican administration in my lifetime by orders of magnitude.
00:49:35.980 So while I can be frustrated with the Trump administration, I understand why you can be frustrated
00:49:40.280 with the Trump administration, I think it's important when we see wins like this to acknowledge
00:49:44.900 them, to encourage them, and to use those as springboards to ask for more, but to recognize
00:49:50.260 that we are still much better off than we would have been.
00:49:52.480 And any people running around telling you that actually it's more than fine if Kamala gets
00:49:56.240 in power, a little more Joe Biden would have been fine, a little Gavin Newsom, that'll
00:50:01.740 get Americans to wake up and start voting right wing.
00:50:04.980 No, it won't.
00:50:05.660 It'll just screw us over more.
00:50:07.200 We win by winning.
00:50:07.980 You win by winning.
00:50:09.960 And right now, Trump is winning.
00:50:11.140 He's winning on immigration.
00:50:13.700 He's winning on deportations.
00:50:15.660 He's winning on violent crime in cities.
00:50:18.200 Sorry, he's winning on that stuff.
00:50:20.360 Maybe he's not as much as we want.
00:50:22.200 Maybe you could say it's not even sufficient.
00:50:23.680 He has to win more, and he's too far behind.
00:50:26.000 That's fine.
00:50:26.680 But he is winning.
00:50:28.340 And so I think it's just important to acknowledge that.
00:50:30.060 All right, let's take a look at the questions that people hear real quick.
00:50:35.160 Thank you for staying through that disconnection there, guys.
00:50:37.180 Chair Coke Nixon says, I understand why greedy elites want demographic change, but what explains
00:50:43.260 the Anglosphere progressive bourgeois love of love of illegals and hatred of ice?
00:50:52.160 Well, that's really simple.
00:50:54.020 They have taken that political advantage and translated into an ideological justification.
00:50:58.300 So the party understands, you know, the political apparatchiks, they understand that there's
00:51:03.780 this political and economic advantage to them.
00:51:06.200 But then they have brainwashed the American people into saying, well, you know, you don't
00:51:10.380 really have a homeland.
00:51:11.300 And, you know, it's actually evil to think of yourself as an American.
00:51:14.640 And America is just a bunch of immigrants.
00:51:16.600 It doesn't have any real identity.
00:51:18.040 And anyone can really be an American.
00:51:19.460 And it's kind of racist if you pretend that America is like a people and a place and a
00:51:24.420 culture that actually should be preserved.
00:51:26.280 I actually just wrote a piece on this.
00:51:28.040 I recorded the video and put it up yesterday if you want to hear more of my thoughts on
00:51:31.880 this.
00:51:32.100 But I think it's it's really just that the these people have been used there, you know,
00:51:38.700 kind of their their good instincts.
00:51:40.500 They're the, you know, Europeans just in general, especially in the Anglosphere, have
00:51:44.560 a low, you know, tribal characteristics.
00:51:47.760 They tend to not be as ethnically clannish as other groups.
00:51:51.180 I've even seen some like, you know, white nationalist guys lament that, oh, well, you know,
00:51:55.120 white people are just, you know, terminally unable to be tribal like everyone else.
00:51:58.840 And that's a problem.
00:51:59.680 However, you feel about that, like that is just true.
00:52:02.620 And so because that's the case, it's easier to exploit, you know, that that and, you know,
00:52:07.420 treat it as like a pathology and then use that against, I think, the people to kind
00:52:13.000 of brainwash them into being OK with their own replacement.
00:52:16.760 And, you know, it's our job to fix that now that that's what we're doing.
00:52:19.600 OK, we're right now we are deprogramming people.
00:52:22.340 We are trying to make them aware that this mentality that they brought on, that they just
00:52:27.360 have to sit around placidly while, you know, they're replaced in their own homeland.
00:52:32.960 That's not something you have to do.
00:52:34.340 You don't have to live that way.
00:52:35.220 It doesn't mean you need to hate people.
00:52:36.460 It doesn't mean you need to be mean to people.
00:52:37.960 It doesn't mean you need to hold hate in your heart.
00:52:40.020 But you have the right to I think my friend Carl Benjamin has the perfect phrase for this
00:52:45.840 demographic security.
00:52:48.120 You have the right to demographic security like you have the right to care about who's
00:52:53.640 in your country and what your country looks like and whether your tradition and your history
00:52:59.800 and your religion and language and everything else are going to be perpetuated.
00:53:05.000 You have the right to that.
00:53:06.460 And there's nothing wrong with that.
00:53:07.500 That's what we need to be encouraging people.
00:53:10.120 It's not about hatred.
00:53:11.280 It's about saying it's OK for every other people to protect their nature, who they are,
00:53:17.900 what their country looks like and to care about who comes there.
00:53:20.900 You have that right to.
00:53:22.780 Nixon also says, and how do we deprogram Anglosphere normies?
00:53:27.120 Even Gen Z women love this migrant predator.
00:53:29.660 They complain about men in vague language.
00:53:31.740 Yeah, I already addressed most of this, but that is an issue.
00:53:34.880 A lot of feminists will talk about men in a collective group as if men are violent.
00:53:42.000 Men like to sexually assault women.
00:53:44.560 Men are disrespectful women.
00:53:46.820 And what they're saying most of the time is immigrant men who have not gone through like
00:53:51.080 the liberal, you know, processing.
00:53:53.940 And so they'll just take, ironically, they'll take the crimes of like violent, like immigrant
00:54:00.140 rapists, like transpose them onto their like native white population.
00:54:05.220 And then they'll favor the very guys who are actually doing the raping over the white population.
00:54:11.360 And that's that's a larger problem.
00:54:14.680 I mean, first, we have to stop talking about each other as if we're in some kind of gender
00:54:19.540 war.
00:54:19.920 It's not men versus women in a civilization.
00:54:22.500 The minute you have a men versus woman contest in your civilization, you know, there's something
00:54:27.220 very, very wrong.
00:54:28.560 Like we got to get along with each other.
00:54:30.120 We got to love each other.
00:54:31.060 We're on the same team.
00:54:32.600 At the end of the day, we have to be on the same team.
00:54:35.560 We have to care about our country, our people, our future.
00:54:39.400 And you can't sit around saying all the men are all the women.
00:54:42.560 Like, are there problems with women?
00:54:45.300 Are there problems with men in the current day and modernity?
00:54:47.700 Yes, of course.
00:54:48.760 Is it OK to address those?
00:54:50.300 Sure.
00:54:50.920 But it needs to be in like a loving, concerned way, a way that you're you're you're looking
00:54:56.720 to better each other and heal that bond, not where you're just like basically just facilitating
00:55:03.100 your own bad behavior, because that's a lot of what feminism is.
00:55:06.080 And that's also what a lot of the red pill manosphere stuff is.
00:55:08.260 It's just two sides of the same coin, two kind of broken, you know, people who are just
00:55:17.120 looking to be able to hate each other and to blame each other for what's going on around
00:55:20.880 them.
00:55:21.320 And that has to stop.
00:55:22.320 We have to be able to look at each other and say, whatever male or female issues and
00:55:27.780 dynamics might be going on, ultimately, we are together.
00:55:31.080 We are a people and we have to respect that.
00:55:34.340 Americans should be able to, man or woman, figure this out and not have to resort to
00:55:40.480 like saying, oh, well, it's all the men or it's all the women.
00:55:43.100 And so then just import a bunch of other women.
00:55:45.060 And again, I see this on the other side.
00:55:47.420 It's not like I don't see a bunch of manosphere guys saying, just go marry yourself an Asian
00:55:51.240 woman.
00:55:51.520 Just go order some woman from Russia, you know, or something.
00:55:55.040 Get yourself a get yourself a Slavic bride or something.
00:55:58.120 I don't know.
00:55:58.880 Go get some woman from a foreign country to solve this problem.
00:56:02.380 So it happens on both sides, you know, so just keep that in mind.
00:56:07.860 Nixon also says, plus hidden tsunami of anti-white hate crimes now.
00:56:11.180 Yeah, that's that's a well.
00:56:12.300 And that's another thing I did want to talk about as well when I was talking about crimes.
00:56:16.280 Well, I do think crime is down overall.
00:56:18.500 Don't forget that one reason we might be seeing a dip in crime statistics is how many of these
00:56:22.340 major cities just aren't reporting crime, especially a minority crime.
00:56:25.940 So so I think there is a general reduction in violent crime, but somewhere in those stats
00:56:31.960 are probably the fact that we're just not reporting crimes.
00:56:35.120 We're not treating them as seriously anymore, especially when they're done by minorities,
00:56:40.360 you know, demographics that would be inconvenient to our narrative.
00:56:43.320 We just tend to not not record them or, you know, you know, mark all the Hispanics as white
00:56:49.140 and stuff and then that, you know, we don't have to notice, you know, where that crime's
00:56:53.360 going.
00:56:53.740 So just just keep that in mind.
00:56:55.400 We're discussing those crimes.
00:56:59.020 Truddle says, hear me out.
00:57:00.480 What if we get him to read Camp of the Saints?
00:57:03.260 Yes, this is basically just a book plug.
00:57:05.200 The translation is great on Audible.
00:57:07.120 Yes, that book is now widely available, which is fantastic.
00:57:10.280 And so everyone can now look at what was basically a very banned book.
00:57:15.580 I imagine that Elon Musk probably has some familiarity, honestly, with that book.
00:57:20.240 But yeah, I mean, if we if we can put together that series where me and Elon Musk, we read
00:57:26.100 through Camp of the Saints together.
00:57:27.120 I think I think that'd be a great one.
00:57:28.740 So if anyone can set me up with that, we'll definitely do that.
00:57:31.680 Cherry Coke Nixon says 80 percent of H1Bs are from India.
00:57:34.960 Their culture is the second most incompatible after Mohammedan culture.
00:57:37.800 Why can't we select it based on values and culture?
00:57:40.660 Yeah, I spoke to that quite a bit in today's episode, so I'm not going to rehash all of
00:57:45.240 that.
00:57:45.420 But I absolutely agree with you.
00:57:49.200 Not from Red Riding Hood says anime is cool and all, but I'd really prefer if Elon would
00:57:54.200 just stop with the H1B cringe and just went more hardline and actually serious on this
00:57:58.500 issue.
00:57:58.820 Yeah, I absolutely agree.
00:58:00.080 One hundred percent.
00:58:02.080 Sean Weiland says thanks, Elon, for talking about it.
00:58:05.060 But we need you to invest your Elon bucks into people and projects that are actually
00:58:08.740 going to solve it.
00:58:09.560 Absolutely.
00:58:10.420 Elon has a massive fortune.
00:58:12.080 I encourage him very much to become the rights benefactor, to really invest in a truly
00:58:18.900 aristocratic way in institutions and people that will achieve the goals that he's looking
00:58:24.140 for.
00:58:24.480 Now, he has already put his money where his mouth is.
00:58:26.300 Remember, he put like one hundred million dollars in the Trump campaign.
00:58:28.740 So it's not like Elon's just been sitting on that war chest.
00:58:30.880 He has done that.
00:58:31.700 But don't just give it to Trump.
00:58:33.440 Like, that's good.
00:58:34.520 I'm not saying don't give it to Trump, but I'm saying in addition to that, start building
00:58:37.520 foundations.
00:58:38.200 I mean, a hundred million dollars.
00:58:39.560 How many young, bright, right wing guys could you fund with a hundred million dollars?
00:58:44.840 How many great thinkers, guys who otherwise would be stuck, like, I don't know, teaching
00:58:49.620 high school somewhere?
00:58:50.460 No, you know what I mean?
00:58:51.260 Like, yeah.
00:58:51.840 How many guys who are just having to work normal jobs who would be fantastic, you know,
00:58:57.160 in a think tank or writing books or, you know, doing journalism activism, like how many of
00:59:03.700 those guys who could really make a difference, apply pressure on the judiciary, file lawsuits,
00:59:08.160 you know, get a legal defense fund going.
00:59:09.860 How much of that could you do with a hundred million dollars?
00:59:12.840 Quite a bit.
00:59:13.860 So if Elon was willing to put a hundred million dollars into the Trump campaign, do the same
00:59:17.900 thing for these organizations.
00:59:19.400 Make a difference.
00:59:20.420 Create new institutions that will serve our interests.
00:59:23.360 Nathan Danner says, attorney Robert Barnes presented a, represented a lawsuit recently
00:59:30.320 against Don Lemon.
00:59:31.180 It was settled out of court.
00:59:32.620 I've seen Barnes on Twitter.
00:59:34.220 I think he follows me.
00:59:35.600 I do know that he's, you know, right wing and, and, and, and whatnot.
00:59:39.980 I don't know anything about him filing lawsuits, especially against Don Lemon.
00:59:43.200 So I can't really speak to that, but I mean, hopefully he was successful and got Don Lemon
00:59:47.300 to pay a decent amount of cheese out of court.
00:59:49.780 I really don't know.
00:59:50.440 Joe McDermott says, uh, when it comes to discussing immigrant, uh, immigration, realistically,
00:59:56.520 we always get stuck on getting people to admit the immigrants, uh, form blocks.
01:00:01.740 All, uh, always idealism, never Machiavellianism.
01:00:04.660 Yeah.
01:00:04.840 And that's why I hit this so hard, right?
01:00:06.500 Like we have to recognize that these immigrants are not individuals.
01:00:10.620 Sorry.
01:00:11.120 They're not autonomous individuals.
01:00:12.520 You're not just bringing in one guy who's good at one thing.
01:00:14.820 You bring him in and you bring his family in, you bring his extended family in, you bring
01:00:19.560 their friends and family in that way.
01:00:21.520 Our migration, our current immigration policy is still set up.
01:00:24.820 Even with the Trump administration is one of chain migration until we end birthright citizenship,
01:00:28.660 until we end these, uh, immigration preferences, until we change the way that this works, we're
01:00:34.400 going to continue to have these like clannish immigrant groups come in and you can't tell
01:00:39.220 white people, okay, well, you're not allowed to be collective.
01:00:41.880 You're not allowed to talk about your collective interests.
01:00:44.840 You're not allowed to recognize yourself as people, but we are going to bring in Indians
01:00:48.880 and Asians and like all these other groups, Hispanics who are 100% dedicated.
01:00:55.120 Like we'll literally just name the organizations La Raza, the race.
01:00:59.260 Like we're going to bring these people in and you're just going to have to compete them in
01:01:02.240 the meritocracy.
01:01:03.080 Yeah.
01:01:03.200 They're allowed to, you know, be nepotistic and only hire people look like them and turn
01:01:08.180 the entire IT department of your company into like this Indian jobs program, but you're not
01:01:13.720 allowed to notice that.
01:01:14.800 And you're certainly not allowed to do that yourself.
01:01:18.140 Like we can't live that way.
01:01:19.880 Something has to, has to change.
01:01:22.200 Uh, let's see here.
01:01:23.440 We also have Lone Wolf who says, if you were to pick three books for Normie to read, which
01:01:29.560 would you recommend philosophy political?
01:01:32.860 Uh, so, uh, this is always a tricky one because really the question is what have you read?
01:01:39.240 Right.
01:01:39.840 If you have not read the basics, then the first three books I would tell you to read are like
01:01:45.640 Plato's Republic slash laws.
01:01:49.620 You should read both really like, uh, Aristotle's politics, ethics, rhetoric.
01:01:55.720 We're already above three, right?
01:01:57.220 So, you know, have you, have you read any, uh, you know, have you read any, um, of these
01:02:03.680 like foundational authors?
01:02:05.240 If you don't have that, you know, Machiavelli, have you, have you read, uh, the prints?
01:02:09.440 Have you read discourses on Livy?
01:02:11.340 Uh, you know, if you don't have, uh, some of that under your belt, then it's going to
01:02:15.600 be hard, uh, to say, okay, well, you should just skip that something else, but let's assume
01:02:19.920 that you have those down, or maybe you're only interested in more modern tomes.
01:02:25.100 I'm assuming you want something a little more than just, Hey, Tate, you know, read all of
01:02:28.480 the political science stuff you should read in your first year at college.
01:02:32.240 Uh, if you're asking that question, I would say that like the, the big three books I would
01:02:36.780 encourage people to read, uh, in a more modern sense would probably be, uh, the Machiavellians,
01:02:43.260 uh, by John Burnham.
01:02:44.560 That'll get you your primer for, uh, elite theory.
01:02:47.560 I would say you could probably include the managerial revolution in there, though really,
01:02:54.580 I would say Machiavellians is more important if you're trying to understand political dynamics
01:02:57.500 at this one moment.
01:02:59.120 Uh, I would say that you should probably read, uh, why liberalism has failed as good.
01:03:06.600 It's a primer.
01:03:07.140 I don't know if it's essential if I'm limiting myself to three though.
01:03:09.940 Uh, I would say you probably need to read concept of the political Carl Schmitt.
01:03:14.500 Um, I would say that or political theology, I would encourage more, uh, the, the concept
01:03:22.080 of the political probably, but either one is probably a good start to get your toe in.
01:03:27.020 Um, and then what third book would I say that you probably want to read?
01:03:33.120 Uh, I mean, I could throw Yarvin or Land out there and I think they're both really important.
01:03:38.600 Uh, you could, I would say the problem is like the dark enlightenment is a great book,
01:03:43.220 uh, but it really needs to be read in reference to Yarvin and Yarvin is a much larger read.
01:03:48.240 So they can grasp all of that stuff.
01:03:51.020 Uh, so that would be, um, one that's important, but probably needs a lot more reading context.
01:03:56.800 So much of the stuff is interconnected.
01:03:58.420 I guess if I was going to go with a third modern book along with the Machiavellians and, uh,
01:04:04.620 concept of the political, I would probably say that you want to read, uh, on power by
01:04:09.600 Bertrand de Juvenal on power is probably the most underrated of all of the books, probably
01:04:14.140 the one that gets the least.
01:04:15.460 Everyone's heard of Burnham at this point.
01:04:17.280 Everyone's heard of Yarvin at this point.
01:04:18.840 A lot of people have heard of Land at this point.
01:04:20.780 Very few people are still going back to someone like Bertrand de Juvenal and Bertrand de Juvenal
01:04:24.800 informed Yarvin.
01:04:26.280 He informed Hoppe, who also informed Land.
01:04:30.260 Uh, so if you are interested in any of those people's thoughts, Yarvin, Land, Hans Hermann
01:04:34.760 Hoppe, you're a libertarian and you liked his stuff.
01:04:37.060 I'm telling you the democracy that got the failed is just ripping off, uh, uh, Bertrand
01:04:42.120 de Juvenal in a great way.
01:04:43.220 Like it, he does a good job of, of kind of recontextualizing it and modernizing it and
01:04:47.900 adding some libertarianism, uh, in there as well, uh, which I think are the weakest parts,
01:04:52.460 but his restatements of, of de Juvenal are still, I think, very valuable to read.
01:04:57.640 Uh, so if I, yeah, if I was going to say like three modern books, it would probably be the
01:05:02.160 Machiavellian's concept of the political and, uh, on power by Bertrand de Juvenal.
01:05:07.940 All right.
01:05:08.700 And I think we've got one more here.
01:05:10.700 It's hood again.
01:05:11.440 It says, and read total state by Orton McIntyre.
01:05:13.520 Yes.
01:05:13.780 Thank you very much.
01:05:14.780 I was not going to show my own book as one of the most important, uh, you know, if you
01:05:18.480 have to only read three, uh, but I, I am proud of that book.
01:05:21.380 I do think it synthesizes a lot of the authors I just talked about.
01:05:24.220 So if you want to get like a primer that that's, I, I wrote the total state in the hope
01:05:30.500 that my book would be to manage your elite theory and Neo reaction in this to the kind
01:05:36.960 of the same thing that, um, James Burnham's Machiavellian's was to Italian elite theory.
01:05:42.400 I was hoping that I could summarize and update, uh, and kind of synthesize in a way that was
01:05:49.500 readable and accessible in a short tome, uh, kind of everything after what Burnham wrote
01:05:55.780 about that helps to update what Burnham wrote about that was kind of, I was hoping it was
01:05:59.380 more of a spiritual successor that did a similar thing, but brought in newer authors and a wider
01:06:04.000 range of kind of the, the newer ideas into the kind of the, the tradition that Burnham was writing
01:06:09.780 in. So, uh, if you are looking for something like that, yes, I would also agree that the total
01:06:14.740 state by some guy, uh, named Orr McIntyre is, is also a pretty good read for that. All right,
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