The Auron MacIntyre Show - The Legacy of Pat Buchanan and Ending the H-1B ｜ Guest： Riley Moore ｜ 9⧸19⧸25

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00:00:30.000 All right, guys. Today, I have the honor of having Congressman Riley Moore of West Virginia on. We were originally going to be discussing Pat Buchanan and the Presidential Medal of Freedom and the legacy of Pat Buchanan. We'll get into all of that in just a moment. But Congressman Moore, so many people are obviously looking at what's happened with Charlie Kirk. Many people are worried that we will not see a strong response from the government. Everyone looks at what happened with Donald Trump and the death of Corey Compertor.

00:00:59.300 We know that left-wing terrorism is a huge problem, but we do see some Republicans saying, oh, well, it's violence on both sides and we just need to cool down the temperature. But we just got an announcement from Donald Trump that Antifa will be declared a terrorist organization. Are you confident that this will mean we will see serious law and order in the aftermath of Charlie Kirk's shooting?

00:01:20.520 Well, and thanks for having me.

00:01:21.520 Well, and thanks for having me on. But that's absolutely what I'm calling for is I think this is a good, not just a step. It's a good first step. This is a good first step. And we need to really get to the bottom of all of this. Who is funding this? Putting Antifa on a terror list is great. I think that's a good first step.

00:01:44.660 But there's a good first step. But there's a lot more that we have to do to get to the bottom, to the roots of the rot that is going on in our society on the other side of this. This, oh, there's violence on both sides. I'm not trying to hear any of that.

00:01:59.140 I don't think anybody serious is trying to hear any of that right now. We have a murdered father of two. And we're talking about both sides. I'm not trying to hear any of that. I'm really not.

00:02:13.020 So and I'm excited to see where this goes and excited that maybe finally we're going to get to the root of what has been eating this country alive now for the last, I'd say, a couple of decades.

00:02:30.060 No, I agree. So many people, myself included, have said and Charlie Kirk said this himself. The NGOs need to get wrapped up. We need to see Antifa defeated. Obviously, there are active terror networks from the left inside the United States, well funded and well organized. They show up at these protests. They turn them into riots. They're designed to assault conservatives, to make them physically intimidated.

00:02:53.700 That was clearly the attempt with the hit on Charlie Kirk to drive conservatives underground. And the thing I'm very worried about, the thing that, well, like you said, I expect the Trump administration to take serious action.

00:03:06.440 But the thing that concerns me for the health of the country is the reaction from the left, not just the radical left, but many mainstream leftist voices who have come out, not just attacked Charlie Kirk, not just said that they didn't like what he said or his character, these type of things.

00:03:21.380 That would already be disgusting, but we would expect that. I am now seeing major leftist personalities declare themselves members of Antifa, say that they openly support the terror network, that this is OK, and they are not hesitating.

00:03:34.820 Now, we just saw Jimmy Kimmel face some social censure for this. He lost his position at ABC News due to the fact that he lied about Charlie Kirk's murder and tried to cover for violent leftist terrorists, violating, I believe, some FCC regulations.

00:03:51.140 But more importantly, I think the real pressure came from different advertisers and networks affiliates who recognized that they simply did not want this language on the books.

00:04:01.060 They did not want to be promoting this kind of incendiary rhetoric inside the United States.

00:04:06.480 Are you happy to see that step? And do you think there needs to be a wider campaign of pushing back against these leftist commentators who are clearly labeling people fascists, labeling themselves anti-fascists, feeding in to this militant terrorist organization and its mission in the United States?

00:04:24.620 Yeah, I think for us to get back to some norms which have been essentially washed away in this country, there are no norms, right?

00:04:31.820 And just to be clear, on the other side of this, this isn't a political debate per se.

00:04:37.440 These are revolutionaries. And on the other side, we have mainstream, mainstream personalities in the media that are fomenting the types of activities that are going on here.

00:04:49.840 I mean, the amount of times any of us, including myself, I'm called a Nazi or a white supremacist or whatever it is for some type of stance or view that I've taken because I'm a Catholic and I'm talking about my faith or whatever, which for some reason equates to being a Nazi.

00:05:06.960 Yeah, I mean, we've got to continue to push back on this. And to those that say, look, they're censoring free speech and this and that. He has an employment contract, to be clear.

00:05:18.940 OK, and there are, I'm sure, stipulations in that contract, just like any private employment of how you're going to conduct yourself on your program.

00:05:28.660 And if it doesn't align with that, that employer has that right to terminate that contract.

00:05:33.480 We're not talking about somebody in the town square being prevented from voicing their crazy opinion about something.

00:05:40.500 They have the right to be able to terminate. He can still talk about all this stuff if he wants to.

00:05:44.860 He's just not going to do it on that program anymore.

00:05:46.800 So, you know, don't forget, these are the same folks that were screaming to cancel Tucker on Fox News, which they were ultimately successful with, and now turning around and saying, oh, they're shutting down free speech in this country.

00:06:03.020 No, an employer has decided that that doesn't align with their values and align with the type of program that they're trying to put out there.

00:06:10.900 So I'm hoping that there's more of this. And I will say that the United States Senate now just, I think, about 15 minutes ago, voted unanimously to make, I think it's October 14th, but it's Charlie Kirk's birthday, a national day of remembrance for Charlie Kirk, Charlie Kirk Day.

00:06:29.280 Over here in the House, I don't think it's going to be like that.

00:06:32.360 We're going to vote on a resolution here related to Charlie Kirk, and I'm not sure you'll probably get a few Democrats vote for it.

00:06:41.400 I'd say not the majority of them whatsoever.

00:06:44.800 I happen to be on the House floor sitting right next to Lauren Boeber when she was recognized by the Speaker of the House to state her point of order, and it was, could we have a prayer for Charlie Kirk?

00:07:00.160 He has just been killed. And the Democrats went ballistic, just screaming, screaming, screamed us down, and we did not have a prayer on the House floor.

00:07:10.140 That's their reaction within 45 minutes of him being declared deceased. That's their reaction.

00:07:18.480 So, unfortunately, I think that's where we are right now. And as a country, as folks here on the right, it is time to circle the wagons.

00:07:29.580 We've got to stop the infighting. It's time to circle the wagons. It is time to put on the armor of God, to paraphrase Ephesians.

00:07:36.620 And look, I'm praying for peace in this country through the victory of our faith. And that is what I'm hoping is going to happen here.

00:07:45.100 But it is time to recognize this is a conflict right now in between the God-fearing and the godless.

00:07:52.700 Yeah, I think that plays itself out over and over again. You know, you're right to say that the left has canceled many a person.

00:08:00.780 I mean, Roseanne Barr has made the point that Michelle Obama basically called Disney to get her thrown off, even though she had a highly rated TV show.

00:08:10.180 It's the same network. It's ABC in both cases. But when the left does it, it's fine.

00:08:14.360 When the right does it, it's the end of free speech. Now, you pointed out there that the Democrats were unwilling to say a prayer over the family of Charlie Kirk in his name and in his honor.

00:08:26.400 You know, and that was one of the most despicable things I have ever seen. It really.

00:08:31.400 I was I was shocked because I was literally right there, right next to Lauren Bover when she asked.

00:08:37.380 I couldn't. And we're you couldn't probably see it on the camera, but we're probably about I mean, just a few feet from the Democrats because we're on the further side of the aisle, close to their side of the aisle.

00:08:48.700 And they were just leaning over, just pointing their fingers in our faces, screaming.

00:08:53.260 It was truly insane. And it makes me think, you know, for so long, many of us have looked at the Republican Party and said so much of it, large swaths of it are just part of the Democratic Party.

00:09:05.760 It's a uniparty. They feel the same. They vote the same on so many issues.

00:09:10.140 They pick one or two that they can argue for different constituencies or different lobbying organizations.

00:09:15.400 But ultimately, they have such a similar agenda that they seem to be buddy buddy after they get done with these existential debates.

00:09:22.100 But I think we're seeing something very different now.

00:09:24.280 I think we're seeing a new crop of Republicans who recognize that the battle for this country, that the time is drawing short and we don't have time to sit here and pleasantly try to pretend that the left is ultimately working with us.

00:09:35.760 We're trying to come together with us. We need to make the allies that we can.

00:09:39.060 But ultimately, there needs to be some hard-nosed politics here.

00:09:42.820 There needs to be an understanding that victory and wielding power in a righteous way to restore order in the United States and protect citizens of the United States is critical.

00:09:51.440 And we need to stop being, you know, cringing about this.

00:09:54.160 We need to stop whining about this, clutching our pearls about abstract principles that aren't even really our own.

00:09:59.640 And instead, we need to do what's right for the American people.

00:10:02.240 Do you feel like that uniparty moment is starting to break apart for American politics?

00:10:08.320 I do. I do, particularly after that moment we just discussed right now on the House floor.

00:10:13.340 And then if we come and we go do this resolution on the House floor here, I believe it's today or tomorrow, and what plays out is what I think is going to play out, I think it's going to become pretty clear to people.

00:10:29.020 Well, there's nobody on our side of the aisle, nobody in the House right now who is playing both sides of the fence on this issue.

00:10:37.760 Not at all. And Charlie Kirk, in his martyrdom, has certainly actually been unifying, I would say, in that regard.

00:10:47.420 It has woken people up. And you've seen it all over the country where people, and this is what Charlie did, right?

00:10:54.600 He's trying to bring light to the darkness. And he's trying to speak truth and engage based on truth, based on our Constitution, based on our religious and biblical values, and not be afraid.

00:11:09.500 And you've seen that from so many people. And I think that's the place that we are now as a Republican Party, at least in the House, I can say that.

00:11:17.560 And I think we're going to see a lot more unification around this, because people are just, and I'm hearing it from, you know, the Freedom Caucus, to Main Street, to anywhere in between, just, this is abhorrent.

00:11:31.980 I cannot believe this is the way that they're acting. And we've got to stick together and go out here and win.

00:11:38.520 Yeah. And I think it's the fact that Charlie Kirk was so universally appreciated across many different factions of the Republican Party.

00:11:46.860 He certainly had views that I think were different at this point than many of the mainstream congressional Republicans.

00:11:53.880 He was, I think, moving more to what some people would call the new right, or however you want to describe that.

00:11:59.600 But ultimately, the key is that Charlie Kirk had built friendships everywhere. He had been an effective communicator, an organizer.

00:12:07.200 He was there for everyone when they needed him. He had goodwill built across the entire coalition.

00:12:13.720 And so no matter how you feel about one group inside the Republican Party or the wider right wing, now, I think, is the time, as you say, for people to unify.

00:12:21.840 We have a very dangerous terrorist threat inside the country. The left has been allowed to foment this.

00:12:27.280 They have been allowed to infiltrate many organizations, receive large amounts of funding, continue to wield this basically one-sided political violence,

00:12:36.160 privilege that they have been gifted by the system, and we have a very small window in which to affect meaningful change in this area before the country really faces some horrific consequences.

00:12:48.140 So I'm with you. I think that ultimately that will be the legacy that Charlie Kirk leaves behind.

00:12:53.860 The same thing that he did in life, unifying a lot of people on the right together to bring us to a place where we can protect the country and we can make it great again.

00:13:03.020 Yeah, and I think one of the greatest things about Charlie Kirk, whether you believe, you know, anywhere in our party, 100 percent of what he said,

00:13:12.960 it was so just fascinating to watch him argue through these different points and positions that it would suck you in.

00:13:22.020 And it was hard not to. Now, I basically ascribe to everything he said. Now, not all my colleagues did, but it was hard to say, oh, well, I don't like what he said here and I don't like what he said there.

00:13:34.280 So now I don't like him. He was it was impossible not to like him. And he was so gifted in that open dialogue in debate that I think it's so quintessentially American.

00:13:45.820 Right. As it relates to our First Amendment that I think everybody had a lot of admiration for that.

00:13:54.060 Well, and when we come back from our quick break, we're going to talk about another American that I think both of you, both you and I believe every American should have admiration for Pat Buchanan.

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00:15:02.120 All right, guys, we're back with Congressman Riley Moore.

00:15:05.720 Just want to remind you that today we are prerecorded.

00:15:08.280 This is not a live stream, so we will not be able to take your questions after.

00:15:11.820 Sorry about that.

00:15:12.580 Now, Congressman Moore, the original subject we were going to discuss was you have suggested that Pat Buchanan should receive the Presidential Medal of Freedom.

00:15:22.800 And this is so important because, you know, again, a lot of people call this the new right.

00:15:27.900 In many ways, it's really the old right, I think, is that, you know, it's actually just the return of what was called the paleocons.

00:15:33.820 But really, it's just the return of a truly conservative politics.

00:15:38.520 One that is actually interested in conserving the people of the United States, not some abstract economic policy, not some idea of world-spanning empire, but instead of saying, what is best for the American people?

00:15:51.820 And I think that's what Pat Buchanan stood for because over and over again, we see Pat Buchanan warning that our foreign adventurism, our desire to send jobs overseas in the search of profits, the idea that we would ultimately be the world's policemen or that we would open our borders to anyone and everyone who entered in and suddenly just assume they're American.

00:16:11.740 And all the warnings that Pat Buchanan laid out for us have just proven to be eminently true.

00:16:16.560 And he said this at a time where it was extremely unpopular.

00:16:19.520 He ran against his own incumbent president to make this point.

00:16:23.160 This is a guy of incredible courage and conviction, and he's still alive for us to honor him.

00:16:28.820 So I am just so glad that you have introduced this idea.

00:16:32.460 But can you talk about Pat Buchanan, why you think that he's important?

00:16:37.320 Yeah.

00:16:37.800 Now, look, I was introduced to, not personally, but his politics, as a very young guy, like when I was a kid.

00:16:46.280 My father was certainly interested in Pat Buchanan, some family members interested in Pat Buchanan.

00:16:52.020 And so I knew this name from an early age.

00:16:56.580 And, you know, I didn't, until I got older, come to appreciate, as I was starting to grow up, I mean, some of the things he wrote.

00:17:05.900 And if people haven't read the book, The Death of the West, and it came out in like, I think, 2002, 23 years ago, basically all of it came true.

00:17:16.920 I mean, it's so prescient, that book.

00:17:19.840 I mean, all of the things that he had been talking about throughout his entire political career, he was basically right about them, like everything.

00:17:27.260 I mean, basically everything he turned out to be true.

00:17:31.320 And, you know, I hate to do this on your program, but I have to just read just one thing here real quick.

00:17:37.780 It's from The Death of the West.

00:17:39.660 And it ties into what we were talking about in the first segment, Charlie Kirk.

00:17:45.220 So this is from The Death of the West.

00:17:46.820 Americans who look on this cultural revolution as politics as usual do not understand it.

00:17:54.400 It means to make an end of the country we love.

00:17:58.560 It cannot be appeased.

00:18:00.280 It's relentless, reckless use of terms like extremist, sexist, racist, homophobe, nativist, xenophobe, fascist, and Nazi testifies to how seriously it takes the struggle and how it views those who resist.

00:18:20.200 To true believers in the revolution, the right is not just wrong.

00:18:27.080 The right is evil.

00:18:28.700 That's where we are right now.

00:18:31.780 That was written in 2002.

00:18:34.940 Yeah, again, that's exactly right.

00:18:37.220 And Pat Buchanan just repeatedly made critical points like the fact that ultimately we were facing an enemy that was looking to dismantle the country and make discussion impossible.

00:18:49.300 And we've seen this in the most stark relief we possibly can, obviously, with the shooting of Charlie Kirk.

00:18:54.780 I think one of the main things that Pat Buchanan pushed on was the idea that in order to have a constitutional republic, in order to have a system in which debate and discussion is the mode in which you do politics.

00:19:08.900 You must first share a culture and an identity.

00:19:12.240 And this was very dangerous for him then and is even dangerous for us to talk about now.

00:19:16.920 The idea that America is not just a proposition, that we have principles, but those principles come from something.

00:19:24.400 They come from a people, they come from a tradition, they come from a faith, they come from a unified belief that we hold and a unified history that we share.

00:19:33.640 And that meant that Pat Buchanan understood something about immigration that I think many modern, even conservatives, do not.

00:19:40.060 That, yes, illegal immigration is bad. 0.98

00:19:42.240 And the fact that the Trump administration has basically brought illegal immigration down to zero is amazing.

00:19:47.320 But also that legal immigration can itself be a great detriment to the United States. 0.86

00:19:53.580 That that does not actually always help the country.

00:19:56.820 That we have to be very selective about who we bring in and when we bring them in.

00:20:00.440 And it's very clear that programs like the H-1B visa have been really abused because they're not bringing in people that we desperately need.

00:20:09.440 We see them bringing in people to do jobs like drive trucks and work in hotels and all kinds of things that are not critical positions where we need some high degree of skill.

00:20:19.200 But instead, we're undercutting the American worker, especially in something like trucking, which has classically been this job that men who maybe did not get into college or didn't want to go that path, they could get into this industry and still make a good living for their family.

00:20:36.100 And now we're seeing it dominated by what is basically an ethnic cartel of foreigners who are coming in and taking up those jobs. 0.87

00:20:42.700 Can you talk a little bit about the H-1B program and why it's so destructive to the American working class? 0.74

00:20:49.380 No, I'd love to.

00:20:50.660 And if not, everybody's following everything I'm doing, but I'm on the House Appropriations Committee and actually put language into the labor HHS bill in our markup that specifically requested from the Department of Labor statistics

00:21:06.960 on how American workers are being displaced by the H-1B visa program.

00:21:13.500 So this is something that I'm actually very interested in looking at.

00:21:17.560 And I'll give you a great example that happened here in my home state of West Virginia.

00:21:21.400 We're building this large steel manufacturing facility currently.

00:21:25.700 I come to find out, and we have welders and pipe fitters.

00:21:30.000 We have all these folks, union and non-union alike.

00:21:32.740 There's plenty of people to employ in the state of West Virginia in this regard.

00:21:36.960 They went out and applied for H-1B visas to bring people in from Venezuela and all over the world to just save a couple bucks on the construction of this steel facility

00:21:48.920 when, at the end of the day, taxpayer money had also gone into this steel facility to help build it.

00:21:56.260 It doesn't make any sense why we're doing this, and it's very simple.

00:22:01.400 I mean, the H-1B visa program, I mean, say it's an accountant, right?

00:22:05.000 And we've pushed everybody into college and telling them, go learn a specific type of skill in college, and you're going to be okay.

00:22:11.700 Well, guess what?

00:22:12.180 You're not, because they will just find somebody in some other foreign country who has the exact same degree as you,

00:22:19.820 except they're going to pay them less and bring them in on an H-1B visa program.

00:22:23.580 So it is literally gutting the professional class in the United States all the way down to the trade level, which hits home for me.

00:22:33.280 I started my career off as a welder myself and had done a lot of work in that traditional trade, which goes back in my family.

00:22:43.020 We've been doing that for a long time.

00:22:44.200 And so this H-1B visa program is the skilled worker, especially the skilled worker, are the ones that are being punished the most by this, and it's got to end.

00:22:57.220 This is not right, because they're supposed to first try to search for an American that can fit that job, 1.00

00:23:04.400 and then if not, then they go and look for some H-1B visa applicant who could fulfill that.

00:23:11.340 That's not what they do.

00:23:12.200 They're shopping around for the cheapest wages out there all over the world.

00:23:17.780 There's nobody else in the world, in terms of the American worker, 1.00

00:23:23.640 there's nobody else in the world that has the entire labor market of the world competing in their own country, like the way that we do.

00:23:33.100 It's totally insane and completely backwards.

00:23:36.580 There is a point to this society.

00:23:39.320 We're not just an economic free trade zone.

00:23:41.600 We are a country.

00:23:43.260 We're supposed to be standing up for our people, our workers, our families, trying to provide a better quality of life for them,

00:23:52.140 not just the bottom line for some corporations that, by the way, are some massive multi-conglomerate

00:24:00.680 that couldn't give two licks about what happens sometimes here in the United States.

00:24:06.440 Well, and the sad thing is it's not even good economics, because if you look at Ricardo, when he talks about comparative advantage,

00:24:13.520 he's assuming that labor will be fixed, that you're not going to be sending a bunch of people across the borders.

00:24:19.160 He assumes that the countries involved in the trading will favor their own nations first.

00:24:24.660 So even if you are looking at classical economics, it's even bad economics in that sense.

00:24:29.740 It's a disaster across the board.

00:24:31.320 And I'm really glad that you pointed out that this is across classes, because, of course, as we were saying,

00:24:36.100 it hits the blue the blue collar class, but it's also phasing out white collar jobs as well.

00:24:40.940 The whole story we've always heard is that we need these immigrants because they're going to do jobs that Americans won't do. 1.00

00:24:47.100 But I now know many people in my personal life who are working in the tech sector, and they've said,

00:24:52.220 I've all but given up moving forward in my job because the entire purpose now of my company is to outsource work to India.

00:25:00.160 The minute you get beyond a certain level, you're going to get phased out.

00:25:04.240 They're going to find someone else to do this job to the point, as were you saying with the job listings,

00:25:08.100 they even hide the job listings to make sure that no Americans can find them.

00:25:12.740 And if America does find them, they shut them down because the whole purpose of the hidden job listing

00:25:16.920 is just so they can technically check the box and then get the H-1Bs they applied for.

00:25:21.460 So the entire system is just rigged front to back.

00:25:24.460 And I'm wondering, is there a case to be made that it should just be shut down entirely with this rife with abuse?

00:25:31.480 And we have so many Americans who are searching for opportunities in the United States itself.

00:25:35.580 I know this would be politically difficult, but is there a case to be made that ultimately we should be protecting American jobs

00:25:41.860 by simply shutting off the flow of foreign laborers to corporations that are betraying the United States?

00:25:47.180 I think there is a case to be made.

00:25:49.180 Now, I'm open to hearing any type of exception that's out there, some critical industry I'm not aware of.

00:25:55.000 When they say, well, we can't find any workers, any Americans to do these jobs.

00:25:59.380 Yeah, you're not going to find any Americans that are willing to do these jobs with the degree and the student debt that they have,

00:26:06.080 talking about these professional jobs, at the wages in which you're trying to pay them.

00:26:10.300 That's the difference there, right?

00:26:11.840 I mean, they're going to India and going to find them.

00:26:14.200 You know, people confuse the H-1B visa with like the O-1 visa, which is, you know, kind of like the genius visa,

00:26:20.180 where we're going and finding and bringing the smartest minds into the United States.

00:26:24.500 It's a very different thing.

00:26:26.000 And certainly, I think that's a good thing, right?

00:26:28.600 That's kind of served our interest over the years.

00:26:31.540 The H-1B visa is totally different than that.

00:26:34.040 And I think it is time to have a conversation and revisit this topic and say, hey, look, enough is enough.

00:26:42.620 We're talking out of one side of our mouth and saying, hey, go to college, become an accountant, become this, become that.

00:26:50.180 And then we're giving the jobs to folks who aren't even in this country or not from this country. 0.99

00:26:55.560 And it's all getting outsourced at the end of the day.

00:26:57.460 And, of course, it hurts the blue-collar worker as well.

00:27:01.460 But it's hitting all the classes in this country in terms of folks that have real skills that they have honed

00:27:09.280 and they need to be able to use here in these jobs and these job postings that we have here in the United States.

00:27:16.940 So, to me, yes, we need to start having this conversation.

00:27:21.020 And really, that's why I put that report language in that bill,

00:27:24.340 because I want to have official government numbers that I can point to and say,

00:27:30.600 well, this is what the Department of Labor said about how many American workers are being displaced by the H-1B visa.

00:27:37.340 And having that data is where we can start to say, okay, now let's get serious about what we're going to do here.

00:27:44.040 Congressman, I know we have limited time with you, so I'm just going to ask you one more question,

00:27:47.700 because I think it's related to this entire problem.

00:27:49.940 One of the issues that we have with the current crop of H-1Bs people coming in is fallacious degrees from colleges. 1.00

00:28:01.840 It's very clear that many of these degrees coming in, these credentials from India and these other places,

00:28:06.740 these are not real universities or they're not at the same level that American universities are operating on.

00:28:11.880 And so, many workers are coming in from these foreign countries with college degrees, lots of high-quality credentials.

00:28:18.420 But they get here, and the people who are running these businesses recognize they can't actually do the job.

00:28:23.380 I know, again, multiple people who have had to train H-1B workers who are working for well less than they are on how to do their job

00:28:30.300 because the H-1B workers didn't know how to do any of the work. 0.91

00:28:33.080 And then they fired the people who finally trained them to learn how to do the work once the H-1B workers were brought in. 0.97

00:28:39.620 Now, this means that the college credential is a big barrier in the United States.

00:28:44.040 And one of the reasons we have to use it is the fact that disparate impact exists in our laws.

00:28:48.900 We're not allowed for businesses to give out tests to evaluate competency

00:28:53.860 because that's considered a violation of Griggs versus Duke Power, which was kind of overturned,

00:28:59.120 but then recodified back into the 92 Civil Rights Act by Republicans, horrifically enough.

00:29:03.780 And so, at the core, I think, of this credentialing problem and therefore tied to our H-1B problem,

00:29:09.620 is the fact that civil rights law keeps us from breaking out of this college monopoly. 0.72

00:29:14.700 We can't just go out and create some kind of certification or some kind of test to help people get a job

00:29:19.620 without having to go through this four-year leftist radicalization project that we call the American University.

00:29:26.240 What do you think about the impact of that current restriction on American businesses?

00:29:30.460 And do you think there's a way forward for us to break that college monopoly,

00:29:34.680 to find a way to get people who are qualified in America jobs or training that they need

00:29:39.540 without having to force their way in to the college racket?

00:29:43.340 No, you're absolutely right.

00:29:45.180 We have to.

00:29:46.420 And there has to be some minimum standard out there that folks are going to have to meet.

00:29:51.660 You know, if you're going and getting a degree online from, you know, India Accounting University,

00:29:57.780 just made that up.

00:29:58.820 But that's not the same as going to, I don't know, West Virginia University and getting an accounting degree.

00:30:04.960 And so, there does have to be some standards that are met here.

00:30:09.360 And I think that's only fair to, obviously, the employees, but also the employer in terms of what they're getting.

00:30:17.580 And, I mean, I'm a big guy on dignity of work and dignity of the human being and human flourishing.

00:30:24.540 And the idea that we have so many people in this country training their own replacements is just disgusting.

00:30:32.340 It's really sad.

00:30:34.800 And you think about, I mean, what that probably does to somebody in terms of their psyche, their own well-being,

00:30:42.760 their own sense of self-worth.

00:30:44.580 I mean, it's terrible to think about.

00:30:47.540 I hate that.

00:30:49.840 Absolutely.

00:30:50.420 I agree.

00:30:50.840 And I'm glad that you're aware of this, that you're pushing back against this.

00:30:54.420 And I hope that you're successful, that you can win more people over to your cause,

00:30:58.480 because the current operation of our immigration system is a disaster.

00:31:02.280 I'm so glad the Trump administration has pushed back on that, on the border and illegal immigration.

00:31:08.080 And I'm glad that guys like you are pushing back on the illegal immigration side as well.

00:31:12.740 So, thank you once again, Congressman Moore, for coming on.

00:31:15.560 Guys, again, sorry, we cannot take any questions because this was a pre-tape today.

00:31:19.040 But we really thank you for coming by.

00:31:20.780 And as always, I will talk to you next time.

The Auron MacIntyre Show - September 22, 2025

The Legacy of Pat Buchanan and Ending the H-1B ｜ Guest： Riley Moore ｜ 9⧸19⧸25

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