The Libertarians Think I'm Scary | 9⧸29⧸25
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On today's show, Oren talks about the latest terror attack on a Mormon church in Michigan, the ADL's response to it, and why we should all be worried. Plus, a look at the latest in the war on Antifa, and a new event called Share the Arrows.
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Hey everybody, how's it going? Thanks for joining me this afternoon. I am Oren McIntyre. Before we
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weekend of news. We had a terror attack on a Mormon church. We had the ADL saying some rather insane
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things. Jonathan Greenblatt added again. Benjamin and Yahoo talking about the woke right and the
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importance of influencing American opinion on Israel. We'll be talking also about some positive
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steps the Trump administration is taking against Antifa. We've actually seen some action on the
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All right. So the first thing, we had a rather tragic event here in Michigan. Looks like we had
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a terror attack on a Mormon church there. A lot of people had speculated on who would be involved.
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Obviously, we've seen a string of left-wing terrorism here recently that has attacked ICE
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agents, has killed Charlie Kirk, has continued to have this extremely negative impact on kind of the
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national psyche and our understanding of the rule of law. Many people assumed that this would be a
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similar situation, rightfully so, given the fact that we already had a terror attack on a Catholic
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church. Remember, just a few weeks ago, multiple children were killed by a trans shooter in that
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scenario. So again, you can understand why everybody was on edge. I, like everybody else,
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was on edge, not knowing what had happened here. It looks like this one might be a little more
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complicated. From what we're seeing, the man involved was a 40-year-old Iraqi veteran.
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Now, there's been a lot of fog of war around this, because obviously, veterans don't have to be
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Republican or Democrat. I know plenty of left-wing veterans. I know right-wing, plenty of right-wing
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veterans. So that doesn't really help us with anything. Some people were claiming that the man
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had a Stop Trump sign on his house. We had a representative, Eric Swalwell, run out and post
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a photoshopped picture of the man with a pro-Donald Trump t-shirt on and claiming that it was a Republican
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who had done this. It was Republicans who were responsible for this violence. That is obviously
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a lie. And obviously, this is another, I think, instance of the Jimmy Kimmel effect, where now
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the leftist plan is to run out in front of anything before we know what's going on and claim that a
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Republican was responsible. Plant fake evidence. Tell lies. Don't care about the truth in the slightest
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so that you can manipulate the situation. The truth is that we don't know if there was an
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ideological component to this. I'm sure this man, the authorities have said this was a
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targeted attack on Mormons. It was an attack of hate. But that is all we know at this moment.
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Perhaps we will learn more. Of course, if this was in any way right-wing, in any way motivated in that
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way, we would obviously condemn it. We're not the left. We're not going to turn around and justify the
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murder of innocent people because they might have read a book that we liked or something.
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But we have no evidence of that. And of course, the left is trying their best to literally manufacture
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the evidence in hopes that they can finally find one attack that is not left-wing since there have
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been so many. It's very obvious that the left is very set on political violence, is committing
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large amounts of political violence in the United States. They desperately want to make this a both
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side's issue. But it keeps failing for them. That's why they have to keep lying. They lied about the ICE
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sniper. They lied about the Charlie Kirk sniper. And they lied about this guy as well, all in the hopes
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of pinning this on Republicans in multiple cases where either we knew it was a leftist, for sure,
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or we're not sure where the violence came from. Again, pray for this community. Absolutely horrific.
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Four people are dead, as my understanding, and multiple others have been wounded. The church was
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set afire, as well as the multiple people killed. The shooter himself was killed by officers who
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responded on the scene. However, this is going to open up a larger discussion we need to have.
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All right. So it's very clear that at this moment in the United States, there is a desire to kill
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Christians. I know some people are going to, you know, whether we talk about Mormons or Christians
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or not, they were identified enough to be Christians to be part of a hate attack. So,
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you know, we can definitely have that discussion. I certainly have my own opinions. I've made them
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clear before, but now is not the time to have that debate. Now is the time to rally around people who have
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been killed in a terror attack, have been targeted in a terror attack. And so I think that we need to
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recognize that ultimately churches are going to continue to be a target of terrorism. Again,
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remember just a few weeks ago, multiple Catholic children killed because they were Christians.
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Okay. So this is now something that leftists are doing on a regular basis. Again, we don't know if this
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guy is a, is a leftist. So I'm not making that claim here, but we do know that other attacks have
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been by trans, whether it's the trans shooter in Nashville, killing multiple Christians, including
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children, uh, like, you know, a year ago or, or a year ago now, uh, or if it's the, the, the shooting
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at the Catholic school, uh, it is very clear that, uh, that churches have become a target of violence,
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particularly left-wing violence in the United States. So a couple of things need to happen here.
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Okay. First, of course, your personal responsibility as a Christian man. Okay. It is your personal
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responsibility as a man, obviously to defend you and yours. That's, that's just your basic role.
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That is your, your, uh, your reason for being, uh, many of us don't have to face violence on a regular
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basis anymore, which is a blessing of our, uh, of a somewhat civilized society. Uh, but to your core,
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you were designed, you were made as a man to stand and defend those around you. Uh, so that's just
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your duty as a man, as a Christian man, obviously it is your duty to protect the flock. The church is
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an extension of your family. And just as you would defend your family, you need to stand ready to
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protect the church. So that means that you need to get a firearm. You Christian man, you need to get
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a firearm. If you don't own a firearm, you need to get one now, not later. Don't think about it.
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Don't make a lot of considerations. You need to arm yourself immediately. If you're a Christian man
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and you can purchase firearm, you need to do so. Second, you need to be training with that firearm.
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Okay. You don't just go by the firearm and throw it in a desk somewhere or in a, in a closet,
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in a, in a nightstand, you need to be training on a regular basis. Okay. Uh, there are now very,
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uh, affordable, uh, pistols that are of good quality, uh, that, that are not extremely expensive.
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You can get, uh, like the CZ P10s, you can get, uh, shield, uh, Smith and Wesson shields. These are all,
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you know, three to $400 reliable guns, uh, that, that are accurate and are not very expensive. You can go
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out, you can get these, you need to go to the range, make sure you're running ammunition through
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that gun. Okay. You need to make sure that you have, uh, you, you can have cheaper, uh, ammunition
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for practice, but you need to be practicing with the ammo that you would be loading into your gun.
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You need to, even if it's more expensive, you need to make sure your gun reliably fires the, uh,
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self-defense ammo that you are purchasing. Uh, uh, you know, you can practice with, with the range
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ammo most of the time, but make sure your gun functions properly with that ammo and you need to
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spend time, be intentional. You can, if, if cost is an issue, you know, going to the range ammo and,
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and range time can be expensive. It's a little bit of a investment upfront, but there is a,
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uh, system there, there are several different systems. I have one personally, uh, that is a,
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uh, you get a laser bullet, like you drop a, basically a laser pointer that goes off when you
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pull the trigger of your gun and you get a target you, uh, that comes with it. You put your phone
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in like a little, uh, holder that looks at the target and reads where the laser goes. And this
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allows you to, uh, dry fire your weapon, practice your trigger pulls, practice, practice drawing from
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a holster. You need to train. Okay. You need to spend time that will give you the ability to,
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uh, uh, to, uh, train at home, uh, for a less expensive, uh, in a less expensive way. You can train
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every day and you should be, you should be training with your gun every day. If you have one of these
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home systems. Okay. So do that practice with the gun, practice dry firing at home, take it to the
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range on a reasonable time, spend time training. Okay. The next thing you need to do is prepare
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to conceal carry. You need to be carrying the gun with you. When you go anywhere, anywhere you go,
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you need to be carrying a gun. As long as you are legally allowed to carry the gun there. Now in
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my state, like Florida, you don't need a concealed carry permit. You can legally carry a gun without
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a concealed permit. Again, as long as you're not carrying it into schools or specific government
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buildings, there are restrictions, but you can carry the gun without any special, uh, you know,
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background or training or anything like that. Now there are some States, uh, many States where you
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can open carry Florida is actually one of those. Now I do not suggest open carrying that says shoot
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me first. Okay. The upside of open carry in your state is that if there's some kind of accident,
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if your shirt blows up, your jacket blows up, uh, you know, the wind takes it, you get snagged on
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something and somebody sees your gun and a concealed carry only state, you could get arrested, right?
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But if you're, you could be in legal trouble, but if you are in an open carry state, then you are
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covered by the open pick carry law, even though you are concealed carry. So I don't advise open
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carrying. I advise concealed carrying. Okay. I don't want the bad guy to know I have the gun.
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I don't know, want him to know that he should shoot me for us or that he could take my gun
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because he can see it visibly, but the open carry is laws are nice because then if there's any kind
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of accident with printing or your, your, your gun being shown, you are covered, but you need to
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conceal carry, get a good holster, a quality, a quality holster, uh, inside the baseband usually is the
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way to go. Uh, make sure that the gun is something that you can conceal properly with your clothing.
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Um, I I'm, I'm not going to, you know, maybe one day we'll get a breakdown on best concealed
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options and all those things, but these are just things you need to do. You need to buy a firearm.
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You need to be training with that firearm, know how to use it safely on a regular basis,
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not just take it to the range once to make sure it works time on trigger all the time, spend your time
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learning how to fire that gun and carry it everywhere. Because the last thing is you need
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to be carrying it in your church. Okay. It's just, you cannot, you cannot outsource your safety to
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someone else in these times. Okay. Right now we are in a situation where left violent leftists want to
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kill you. You need to be prepared in, in the, uh, instance that something happens to your church.
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Again, we don't know what the motivation was with this guy. I'm not blaming this, the left on the,
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you know, this one on the left, cause we just don't know at the moment, but other situations
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have already occurred. You need to be prepared. You and your church need to be prepared to defend
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the people in that church. That means it is your duty, your individual duty. I don't want to hear
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about anyone else. We'll talk about the wider response in a second, but you listening to this right
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now, this is your duty. You cannot outsource it to anyone else. It is your job to protect yourself
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and the people around you, including your church. Your church should be filled, filled with men
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packing guns, prepared to defend your church. The end. You can't outsource it to anyone else. Okay.
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If someone comes into your church, someone, this guy drove a truck into the church. Okay. That's,
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that was part of the attack. Something like that happens. There should be a hail of gunfire coming
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from the congregation to make sure that guy never takes a step out of that truck. Okay. So that is
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what you need to do. People ask me all the time, well, what can I do or, and it's just typing on the
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internet. It's just, this is what you can do right now. Here's your practical advice. Here is the step
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by step. I am giving you purchase a gun, train with that gun constantly, learn how to wield it safely
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and effectively and carry it wherever you go when it's legal, including the church. Okay. Your church
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should be ready. Now, on top of this, on top of your personal responsibility, every church in the United
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States needs to have a security rotation of their own people. Okay. This is not a job for outside
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security sources. Maybe if you've got a good relationship with the police officers, I, you
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know, my church has a great relationship with the police officers in my community. We always have
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two out front directing traffic. So there's a level of security there just because the number of people
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come in, it's impossible basically for my church to function without having, you know, the police escort
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people in and out with the traffic because we just have too many people coming into the church. Uh, but,
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uh, you, uh, beyond that, beyond the police, your church should have a defense program. Okay. Many
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churches have former military, former law enforcement, current military law enforcement. These guys are
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trained. They need to enter into a rotation of protecting the entrances and exits of your, uh, church,
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especially the worship center. Obviously that's where most of the terrorist attacks are going to
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take place. They're looking for large amounts of people, uh, you know, group together to, to be a
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target to, to get the most kills. That's what these mass shootings are about. So they're almost always
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going to go for the worship center. Uh, so make sure that there's there, your church has organized
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a program. If your church doesn't have that program, you need to go to your pastor, go to your minister,
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go to your priest and say, we need to start this now. And if they don't have a way to start it,
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you need to start it. You need to work with them and say, okay, I will find if your military or law
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enforcement, you should spearhead this. Okay. What can I do? This is what you can do. I don't want
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to hear about, Oh, uh, there's nothing we can do. We don't get any advice on what to do this,
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do this. Now you, as if you are military or law enforcement or former military or law enforcement,
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you need to go. And if your church does not have a security staff, again, this shouldn't be paid
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individuals. This should be the men of the church, the people of the church, defending the church.
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It is your job. Don't look elsewhere. Don't hire security. You need to do it. Get these people
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together. They need to train. They need to be prepared. They need to have a watch. You know,
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the guys at my church have the whole, you know, the whole secret service earpiece thing going on
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and everything. They are in constant communication. They're watching everything. Every church needs to do
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this. This is no longer an option. This is a mandatory thing that your church has to do.
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If your church leaders are queasy about it, then you need to kindly, but forcefully, you know, with
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the love of God, but you need to let them know, I don't care. You know, we care more about the lives
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of the people of this church than we do about any, you know, Ooh, if, what if people see scary people
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standing security and they don't want to walk into the church? No, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Those days are gone.
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Okay. Every church needs to have this program. So you personally need to train with a firearm and
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carry it with you in church, be prepared to protect other people, but you also need a dedicated security
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team watching these entrances and exits. They, you know, you can rotate them. You know, we, we've got
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dozens of guys who do this. So it, you know, it's not like the same four guys every week. You can rotate
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these people in and out. Obviously the size of your congregation is going to determine the level of
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security coverage that you need, the number of people who can do this, you know, that kind of
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thing. However, take initiative. Okay. You need to be involved in this. We are now in a climate simply
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where churches are terrorist targets. That's it. It's terrible. It's horrible. I don't like it. I wish
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it wasn't the case, but here we are and we don't have time to pretend otherwise. So this is your duty
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as a man, as a Christian, you need to take responsibility on your level to prepare and to
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protect. And you also need to encourage your church to have a formal program apart from your
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personal carrying of a firearm of trained men. Uh, again, hopefully there you have law enforcement
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or military usually do in your church. They need to be standing guard on a regular basis. This is a
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non-negotiable, a non-negotiable at this, this point, very sadly, this is the way things are
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and you need to be prepared. All right. Let's talk about some things that the Trump administration
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is doing right. The Trump administration took some good actions here and we want to praise the
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Trump administration when they are doing good things, especially after we criticize them for
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not doing those good things yet. So let's take a look at what happened in Chicago recently when more
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ICE rioters decided to, uh, protest, uh, and cause damage at a ICE facility. All right. We are live
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outside of Broadview Attention Center here in Broadview, Illinois. Uh, federal agents are opening
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so it turns out that if you uh have a bunch of uh uh cockroaches and you just you know uh spray a
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few of them with pepper spray they all run screaming right antifa is not tough they're
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just dangerous because literally no one is doing anything the only reason that antifa became a
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force at all was that we were just too cowardly to enforce the law the minute you enforce the law
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they go screaming they go shrieking they are children who can't do anything these people are
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not tough they are not trained they are they have no resolution the only reason yeah it's it's like
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they're like little little kids who found a weapon right it's it's all just a game to them
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until someone gets hit with you know once they pull the trigger on the gun but up until then
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that you know they they all think it's a game they all think it's a marvel movie they all think that
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you know their 110 pound woman is going to do a bunch of karate and take out a bunch of federal
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agents in reality uh they just come out and fire a couple of uh pepper spray balls at these people
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and they just go absolutely shrieking into the night uh so fantastic to see that the trump
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administration is taking this seriously uh this is followed up uh here's from uh department of
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homeland security uh they said uh during uh 11 rioters were arrested last night in chicago's
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outside the ice detention facility there are two guns that were taken off the rioters in chicago
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right against the fence of our detention maintenance facility so these rioters showed up
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with firearms right uh now of course every you have the right to legally carry a gun uh in many cases
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i hear chicago's a little strict on that though uh funny i wonder how many uh leftists we're going to
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hear talking about the uh gun control laws in chicago after these two guns were taken off these
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antifa rioters right i thought the chicago gun laws were supposed to prevent all of this crime
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it's it's the solution right just fix the gun laws just fix the gun laws all you have to do is put
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more gun laws out there oh wait chicago has some of the most restrictive gun laws in the world i guess
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who's breaking them leftist terrorists because the gun laws don't do anything so whenever anyone tells
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you oh we need more gun laws that'll stop these shootings no literally the murderers the terrorists
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have the guns even the leftists who are pushing for gun control have the guns
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these are the people who are pushing for gun control they have guns in chicago where the gun
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control is the strictest okay and in addition to these guns uh also canic oh come on turkish guns
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really people uh so uh uh well here we also have uh what seems to be an improvised explosive device
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so it could be that not only are these people uh uh bearing uh guns but they also have homemade
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uh explosives that they are looking to lob at ice agents so this is full-on days of rage anarchist
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bombing type terror attacks okay that's what these people are doing so thank god the trump
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administration when i found out my friend got a great deal on a wool coat from winners i started
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wondering is every fabulous item i see from winners like that woman over there with the designer jeans
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are those from winners ooh are those beautiful gold earrings did she pay full price or that leather
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tote or that cashmere sweater or those knee-high boots that dress that jacket those shoes is anyone
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paying full price for anything stop wondering start winning winners find fabulous for less
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got it all together right and they said okay let's we're finally we're gonna we we we knew that they
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were going for the long game we knew that they were planning to take on the ngos and put together a
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a a court case and that's going to take a long time maybe rico all this stuff it's going to take time to
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do that but in the meantime they had to take control of the streets back they had to show the left they
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couldn't keep doing what they were doing they had to show that there were consequences for leftist
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violence and i'm glad that they got that message and that they got involved we got yeah you got uh
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11 different writers arrested uh and uh guns now i would have liked to seen everyone arrested
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there's no reason that everyone shouldn't be arrested here they're all involved it's like j6 i want them
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all just take them all okay uh but at least they arrested a good amount of people uh got the most
00:24:27.700
dangerous people with uh with different weapons uh off off of the street including uh homemade
00:24:33.180
explosives right all right so another uh positive thing uh that the trump administration did
00:24:39.780
recently uh we remember we had the uh the woman who assaulted this officer uh in an in new york city
00:24:46.780
uh courtroom and uh she got pushed to the ground because when you assault an officer and you reach
00:24:51.880
as you can see with her hands there you can see the reach uh around his weapon was she going for the
00:24:56.600
weapon it doesn't matter you don't know in the heat of the moment as a police officer you do not know
00:25:01.180
if someone puts their hands on you especially when they're putting their hand near your weapon
00:25:04.880
they are basically armed at that point and she's very lucky that the only thing she got was a push
00:25:10.380
okay but she got pushed over she fell down the officer was momentarily uh uh suspended from duty a lot of
00:25:17.840
people said hey this is garbage uh you need to stand behind your officer and they did she she he's been
00:25:22.780
fully reinstated uh and he's he's fully returned to duty so that is good uh again glad to see uh that
00:25:29.900
uh uh glad to see that the the trump administration is listening that they are taking this seriously
00:25:35.280
and that they are taking action so we have the arrests uh we have the reinstatement of this ice officer
00:25:40.620
um uh another thing that is very interesting uh andy no was reporting on this recently uh he says if you
00:25:48.920
see the people in these green hats at far left riots uh know that they are not independent legal observers
00:25:55.140
but are rather members of an antifa legal group called the national lawyers guild this group helps
00:26:00.140
antifa and far left terrorists escape prosecution so uh yeah andy do it no does a lot of reporting on
00:26:07.400
uh antifa obviously he's famously been attacked by these people uh multiple times uh but it's an
00:26:13.420
interesting point you know the uh a lot of people they the way the left tries to cover for antifa is they
00:26:18.860
say oh they're not real it's it's not a it's not a real organization it doesn't have it doesn't have
00:26:23.960
an official central head it hasn't like filed papers with the irs so it can't be a real organization uh
00:26:30.420
but they have a lawyers guild working for them like they literally have people attending their events
00:26:36.400
they're just to deploy uh themselves as like lawyers who can intervene or observe what's going on and
00:26:44.260
prepare for legal defense of the antifa rioters does that sound like an organization that is well
00:26:49.500
not an organization is that just an idea antifa is just an idea but it literally has legal organized
00:26:54.280
legal counsel waiting to like get involved and sue people and try to get people out of jail does that
00:27:00.940
sound like a a ragtag operation does that sound like just a few guys getting together extreme no it's
00:27:07.940
obviously a terrorist network it's a terrorist network that literally has its own it's the mob it's the mob
00:27:14.260
okay they have their own legal apparatus prepared to bail them out of jail when they do crimes it's
00:27:20.300
the mob it's organized crime it's organized crime that's why rico needs to happen these tear cells need
00:27:25.780
to be taken down uh again glad to see that the trump administration has begun work on that more arrests
00:27:31.280
please continue go for the whole go for the whole protest next time every one of these people
00:27:36.500
assaulting police officers and assaulting ice officers they should be arrested uh go for it
00:27:41.780
but definitely glad to see trump administration starting to take this far more seriously and
00:27:48.920
you can tell they really took it seriously uh because uh pete hegseth the secretary of war
00:27:55.140
has officially deployed the national guard to portland oregon which is constantly under uh antifa
00:28:01.240
violence sees a lot of antifa violence they're very active uh in portland oregon and the national
00:28:07.120
guard has been deployed to keep the city safe so again great to see great steps great response by
00:28:14.220
the trump administration uh you know as we say here always chimp trust the plan okay so we we make our
00:28:21.620
we make our voices known we may we we let the trump administration know what our concerns are and we
00:28:27.700
see responses that is great news okay that is great news and i'm glad to see the trump administration
00:28:33.480
taking action on this so very glad that they are being deployed to port portland to make sure that
00:28:39.980
the national guard will be protecting uh ice agents as they operate there as well all right so uh we got
00:28:48.020
the church attack we talked about uh i think that's all of our antifa stuff all right so let's move on
00:28:53.520
to uh some some of our favorite topics here oh sorry one more good thing the trump administration
00:28:58.620
again i knew there was one more uh one of uh my uh followers sent this to me uh it looks like the
00:29:04.140
trump administration has been helping to crack down on illegal uh truck drivers in the united states we
00:29:10.520
know uh that there is a uh a epidemic of foreign truck drivers who are not qualified uh driving on
00:29:19.100
american streets now we don't want them anyway because we don't need foreigners taking good american jobs
00:29:23.840
uh truck driving is a classic blue collar uh a job that allows someone who doesn't have a lot of
00:29:30.720
training doesn't have a lot of uh experience can still make a good living and support a family that
00:29:36.620
was a classic american job for a long time the long haul trucker was able to elevate himself beyond
00:29:42.200
uh kind of the lower income working poor status because of the availability of good jobs like this one
00:29:48.220
and the fact that foreigners have captured a portion of that is already bad but it is also very
00:29:53.660
unsafe of course we all remember uh multiple people killed by a indian truck driver uh who was who
00:30:00.800
should not have been operating a truck in florida uh here recently uh so it looks like ice has worked
00:30:07.040
with the state of oklahoma to take 130 truck drivers off the road as part of a three-day sting on
00:30:13.860
drivers who could not read road signs did not understand the law so again good to see that the trump
00:30:19.900
administration has stayed on this they didn't just issue a press release somewhere and then move on
00:30:24.560
they've stayed on this they are clearing uh these illegal drivers off of our roads they are forcing
00:30:30.140
illegal immigrants out of these positions good very glad to see this good work ice good work trump
00:30:36.460
administration good work state of oklahoma which is working with these people and it's and uh in the
00:30:42.460
story it said that the majority of these people are getting their licenses from california so gavin
00:30:47.460
newsom is of course trade uh just minting licenses for truck foreign truck drivers to kill people in
00:30:53.120
the united states uh he is garbage uh he has been calling basically for like the murder of stephen
00:30:58.700
miller by calling him a fascist regularly on his uh on his social media account or obviously he's
00:31:03.860
probably not doing it he's probably got some intern doing it uh but just just just a cursed governor
00:31:08.440
uh completely horrific uh but glad that states like oklahoma are stepping up in uh in um concert with
00:31:16.940
the trump administration so great job there all right so now let's talk about everybody's favorite
00:31:21.940
topic israel all right so here's a recent meeting uh uh benjamin netanyahu who uh you know has decided
00:31:29.920
that he needs to uh reduce anti-semitism and anti-israeli feelings on the internet and so he had a a conference
00:31:38.680
with a large number of uh influencers uh to try to uh figure out their strategy for how they were going
00:31:48.580
he said he talked about the woke right he said i call it the woke right
00:31:57.880
that's a brilliant the woke right because these people
00:32:03.720
oh man the prime minister of israel is calling everyone woke right i wonder where that term came
00:32:10.520
from i wonder where that term came from at the conference where he's talking about how important
00:32:17.260
it is to use social media influencers to drive israel's understanding of the world to promote
00:32:24.300
israel's uh you know uh uh reach to to sway uh the the opinions of americans on the state of israel
00:32:32.760
he deploys the term woke right oh man what a shocker there
00:32:38.540
no they're not any different from the woke left i mean they're insane
00:32:44.080
but they're actually meeting on some of the things and what we have to do is we have to secure
00:32:50.960
that part of our the base of our support in the united states that is being challenged systematically
00:32:57.200
so we need to secure that base of our support in the united states
00:33:01.960
uh let me translate that for anyone who is missing it we need to manipulate
00:33:08.220
public opinion in the united states we need to make sure that other people
00:33:12.660
aren't allowed to hold opinions we don't like in the united states right that that's what he's saying
00:33:18.980
i just wanted to make it clear if vladimir putin was brazen enough to say this out loud we'd be
00:33:24.600
talking about the next round of sanctions we need to drop on russia right we'd be talking about the
00:33:29.620
foreign influence operations impacting our election buying our politicians we'd be talking about all of
00:33:35.960
that from russia or china if they said this stuff out loud and we should because i don't want russia
00:33:41.160
or china influencing my politics but netanyahu's just bragging about it like here's our plan we are
00:33:50.020
going to in we're going to attack the woke right and we are going to use our influence to manipulate
00:33:57.300
public opinion in the united states a lot of this is done with money money of ngos vast money of
00:34:06.520
governments faster okay we have to fight back now again i i i agree that i don't want any foreign
00:34:15.500
nation manipulating the politics of my nation and this just doesn't just mean israel it's not just israel
00:34:22.800
here china i don't want them influencing it ukraine i don't want them influencing it russia i don't want
00:34:28.720
them influencing us i certainly don't want any place like qatar or saudi arabia arabia influencing us
00:34:34.960
i'm not just singling israel out here i don't think any of these nations should have this foreign
00:34:40.740
influence and i understand why they want it i don't care we should be making every one of these people
00:34:47.920
file under farah none of these people should be allowed to walk around as if they are
00:34:53.280
working in the interest of america when they are actually working for a foreign government but that
00:34:58.440
also includes israel okay i get what he's saying here we have to do defense because everybody else
00:35:03.140
is influencing well first i mean come on man that's just kind of insulting like uh all these other
00:35:08.320
countries are using money and ngos and influencing politicians yeah you don't say no
00:35:14.080
would be terrible if a country did that right like kind of audacious to like yeah well everyone
00:35:20.800
else is doing what we've been doing for a long time so we got to do it well yeah i guess but like
00:35:25.640
come on man uh so ultimately like i get what he's saying here like he he's worried that these other
00:35:30.660
countries are influencing the united states and and undoing all the work he's done influencing the
00:35:36.980
united states and they're using a lot of the stuff that they used to influence the united states so now we
00:35:43.120
got to get in there and we got to do it right so i get it i i don't want any of it it's not that i
00:35:48.040
just don't want israel doing it i don't want anyone doing it but he's just admitting that he's basically
00:35:52.360
we're in 5g warfare right we're in fifth generation warfare where he's just actively going to we're
00:35:58.580
constantly battling over the control of the american state over american public opinion i don't want
00:36:04.760
these people influencing american public opinion i don't want israel doing it i don't want china
00:36:09.340
doing it i don't want russia doing it i don't want any of these people doing it i don't want
00:36:13.320
qatar doing it i don't want any of these people doing it get all of this foreign influence out of
00:36:18.560
my country this is what george washington warned us about if we make a favored nation our if we make
00:36:24.420
a nation our favorite nation a foreign country a favored nation then our entire country will be open
00:36:29.500
to foreign subversion which will destroy our republic these are george washington's words when he left
00:36:35.080
office at the very beginning of our country if we let these people become our favored nation then it
00:36:41.780
will be a dividing line between our country and it will manipulate our opinion and they will pour money
00:36:46.820
and they will pour influence into our country and destroy our republic no i don't want anyone doing
00:36:52.720
this israel and include it how do we fight back our influencers how do we fight back our influencers
00:37:00.700
our influencers he owns them our influencers the ones that are acting in america our influencers
00:37:10.900
interesting you should also talk to them if you have a chance to that that community they're very
00:37:18.420
important and secondly we're going to have to use the tools of battle you know the weapons change
00:37:25.140
over time you can't fight today with swords that doesn't work very well okay and you can't find with
00:37:31.300
the fight with cavalry that doesn't work very well and you have these new things you know like drones
00:37:36.740
things like that i won't get into that but we have to fight with the weapons that apply to the battlefield
00:37:42.980
in which we engage and the most important ones are the social media
00:37:48.420
so he's openly describing american public opinion as a battlefield on which israel is waging war
00:37:54.040
now again i don't want a single just israel out here many other nations are doing this all of them
00:38:01.780
need to be expelled all of them china shouldn't own a single piece of land in the united states we
00:38:07.600
should stop importing any chinese nationals they shouldn't be coming to our uh our our colleges i don't
00:38:13.480
want any of these people being involved i don't want arab money here i don't want ukrainian money i
00:38:18.260
don't want any of this stuff here okay but he is openly explaining this and remember this is a country
00:38:23.960
we send billions of dollars to every year that's not even including like military excursions that we
00:38:32.640
kind of initiate on their behalf or participate in on their behalf just just as a baseline we send these
00:38:40.600
people billions of people billions of dollars every year and he's explaining how he needs to use money
00:38:45.320
and influencers to control american public opinion because it is a battlefield on which israel must wage war
00:38:52.160
we are paying israel to influence us to pay money to israel it's insane it's insane okay again you don't have
00:39:01.420
to hate israel to think this is bad you don't you can support the state of israel as its own separate country
00:39:08.220
and still think this is bad right i wouldn't want england i support england being a nation actually i
00:39:15.040
wish they would get rid of their current government uh but i i support the idea of england as its own
00:39:20.820
nation i don't want england buying influence in the united states when the labor party sent people to work
00:39:26.720
for joe biden's campaign i was just as angry then about the foreign influence it's not just israel
00:39:32.660
but it's obviously israel and we're sending these people billions of dollars and he's openly talking
00:39:37.600
about how he's going to use money to manipulate our public opinion because it's a battlefield he has to
00:39:43.180
wage war in the most important purchase that is going on right now is class
00:39:49.760
number one number one and i hope it goes through because it's uh it can be consequential
00:40:00.400
and the other one what's the other one that's most important x that's very good and you know so we
00:40:09.820
have to talk to elan he's not an enemy he's a friend so he talks about the need to purchase
00:40:15.700
online platforms like tiktok that might allow information or viewpoints that he doesn't like
00:40:22.600
on there same thing with twitter right he says oh you hear one of the influencers in the meeting saying
00:40:29.180
oh it's a cesspool right they need to control the information on these social media platforms
00:40:34.660
he's just saying this openly again the uk is talking about this kind of stuff too but we reject that
00:40:41.000
the uk government is talking about the need to try to censor x but we reject that germany says that we
00:40:46.760
reject that why aren't we rejecting it with israel again i don't want any of these countries
00:40:52.480
controlling the social media in my country but that includes israel they are on the list including
00:40:59.060
england and germany and china of places i don't want to control my social media and yet netanyahu is
00:41:05.760
saying we need to we need to do this we need to get control of these platforms so uh again you don't
00:41:11.880
have to have like hate in your heart for israel or jewish people in general to say i do not want
00:41:17.080
foreign influence in my country i don't have to hate russians to say i don't want russia influencing
00:41:22.520
my elections i don't have to hate ukrainians to say i don't want ukrainians influencing my government
00:41:27.280
and begging for money for my government you don't have to hate anyone in israel to say i don't want
00:41:32.820
them getting billions of dollars from me and then turning around and apparently working with
00:41:39.800
influencers in the united states to change the opinion as if it's a battlefield on which israel
00:41:44.780
is fighting okay and if you've ever if you're one of these conservatives who's like i stand against
00:41:48.500
public sector unions because they get money from the taxpayer and then they turn around and uh you know
00:41:54.440
and and then they turn around and they spend that money on uh uh uh on uh influencing us you
00:42:03.340
know influencing politicians buying politicians if you've ever someone who's made that argument
00:42:07.280
about public sector unions guess what this is the same thing right this is the same thing and if
00:42:14.480
you make a special exception for israel it's because you didn't have any principles on that anyway
00:42:18.880
you're just carving out a special exception for israel all right uh the adl uh here is uh jonathan
00:42:25.860
greenblatt of the adl speaking about all of the new things that he needs to do to crush uh opposing
00:42:33.020
opinions in the united states playing defense we stopped playing defense and have moved to offense
00:42:43.620
you see this in our focus on the courts in the past 12 months adl's filed more lawsuits than the prior
00:42:52.280
112 years against extremist groups elite universities public companies school districts and state sponsors of
00:43:02.800
terror we've launched innovative products intercept anti-semitism before it takes root whether in the
00:43:10.460
boardroom or in chat rooms large language models or academic associations in wikipedia entries or whatsapp chats
00:43:20.880
this work matters not just for the jewish people but for all of society so he says here that in addition
00:43:29.540
to the adl launching like a record number of lawsuits which of course it has been doing for a very long time
00:43:34.500
but in in addition to it launching a record number of lawsuits the adl is also according to jonathan
00:43:41.640
greenblatt uh launching innovative products so surveillance software right that's what he's saying
00:43:51.040
here we've launched uh surveillance software that will that will stop you having the wrong think
00:43:56.840
discussions in a boardroom or a chat room we've got it doesn't matter if you're building a large language
00:44:01.840
model or you have an academic association or you're entering something in wikipedia or in your whatsapp chat
00:44:07.300
in your personal chat in your whatsapp chat we're monitoring you we're deploying surveillance of you this is the adl
00:44:15.700
talking about how it's surveilling american citizens to stop them from having the wrong type of discussions
00:44:24.160
the adl needs to go this is insane the adl has been a hate organization for many many years it has
00:44:33.040
been nothing doing nothing but attacking people getting them uh making them lose their job lose
00:44:38.740
their company get debanked uh get destroying their lives the adl is a hate group that targets and tries
00:44:46.200
to dismantle the american people okay i saw people saying oh man the adl all they do is increase
00:44:52.300
anti-semitism i thought that's what they were not supposed to do guys the purpose of a system is
00:44:56.860
what it does if the adl is says it's supposed to get rid of anti-semitism but it's promoting more
00:45:05.040
anti-semitism by its constant attacks on america then the purpose of adl is not to reduce anti-semitism
00:45:11.580
the purpose of the adl is to destroy the united states and that's what it does the adl exists to
00:45:17.820
destroy the united states of america it is not a civil rights group it's not an anti-hate
00:45:22.200
group it is a pro-hate group it hates the united states the purpose of the system is what it does
00:45:26.920
jonathan greenblatt does not reduce anti-semitism he destroys the united states he builds programs
00:45:33.200
with the intent of spying on american citizens and destroying their lives he just said it openly
00:45:39.160
so yeah the adl needs to go now not only did he make this announcement but many people have
00:45:45.760
recently noticed that in addition the adl has also declared turning point an anti-semitic organization
00:45:53.940
right uh let's see here uh yeah it's it's listed under extremist and hate groups for them the tp usa
00:46:02.460
charlie kirk loved israel he loved israel but he disagreed with some of what america israel was doing
00:46:09.080
and just that disagreement that that having any disagreement at all there were problematic
00:46:15.300
comments at tp usa they get listed as a hate group under the adl they get listed in their glossary of
00:46:21.220
extremism and hate home right that's what they're doing charlie kirk's organization listed as a uh a hate
00:46:31.020
organization absolutely absolutely insane okay these people need to have their organization dismantled
00:46:39.080
it is a threat to the united states it is an attack on americans is attack on their ability to speak
00:46:44.380
it's an attack on their ability to care about their own homeland it is an attack on their ability to
00:46:50.200
communicate and work as free people the adl is designed to attack america and its values
00:46:57.900
to the point where it is it will even label tp usa as some dangerous organization because at some point
00:47:04.980
a speaker said something they didn't like even though the organization overall is pro israel
00:47:11.060
the fact that their founder charlie kirk loved israel didn't matter they had questions and so they had to
00:47:18.160
go they need to go absolutely absolutely say the adl needs to be dismantled it should be investigated along
00:47:26.180
with all these ngos i hope trump is including this listen i hope trump and pam bondy are including this
00:47:36.480
in their network of possible antifa helpers pro antifa organizations because remember
00:47:45.460
the adl does not list antifa as a hate group or a terrorist organization it says
00:47:52.640
it goes with the leftist line that antifa is an idea so they give a antifa pass
00:47:58.460
but they demonize turning point usa the people who killed charlie kirk get a pass from the adl
00:48:05.880
but charlie kirk is denounced these people should be investigated now i don't have a lot of hope for
00:48:13.280
that because of what pam bondy said when she was asked about this far more likely that she'll be
00:48:18.080
defending the adl then prosecuting them but she should because they are clearly one of the organizations
00:48:24.200
that is helping to normalize antifa's violence you should be going after them under rico just like
00:48:30.060
you're going after all these other ngos and if you don't we know why we know why we know why you're
00:48:37.280
giving a pass to the organization that demonizes charlie charlie kirk's organization but gives a free
00:48:42.080
pass to the people who killed him we know if you don't do this so please trump administration has
00:48:49.240
done a lot of great stuff last few days big fan here's another one here's another homework assignment
00:48:54.900
guys the adl should be investigated along with all of these other ngos that are assisting antifa
00:49:02.100
because they clearly are providing cover for them they are clearly running cover they are printing lies
00:49:07.700
about antifa while uh demonizing turning point usa they are printing lies to defend antifa to cover
00:49:15.440
for antifa while they are excoriating the organization of the man that antifa killed
00:49:20.900
we obviously need to fix this okay all right so let's go to uh the actual uh main theme of the show
00:49:30.840
which was the reason magazine article gonna be a little longer today guys didn't mean to go quite that
00:49:35.840
long but here we are all right so reason magazine now uh before i get into this just want to remind
00:49:51.620
you that of course reason magazine is is the lolbert magazine okay uh this is uh obviously uh i'll go with
00:49:59.320
the not all libertarians here because somewhere the mises institute guys are like we're not these guys
00:50:03.900
okay i got it the beltway libertarians though some of you would say this about me as well
00:50:08.560
so the beltway libertarians are mainly i mean useless at this point when's the last time anyone cared
00:50:16.640
about what reason magazine said you can't can't really think about it but i got my first hit piece
00:50:21.240
you know and i feel like uh having gotten my first hit piece i should i should uh investigate
00:50:26.080
uh what the fine uh sharp minds of the lolberts have to say about me first you can see uh you know the
00:50:33.260
american new right looks a lot like the european old right ah hello fellow europeans uh when
00:50:40.180
conservatives reject constitutional limits on executive power and foment civil conflict what
00:50:44.760
exactly are they conserving uh you can see here uh we've got very scary men like myself uh curtis
00:50:51.660
yarvin uh uh yoram hozoni uh you know the infamous dangerous yoram hozoni of the woke right uh daryl
00:51:01.160
cooper uh and carl schmidt uh because of course we need to put carl schmidt in everything that's what
00:51:06.220
makes everything so scary and dangerous carl schmidt now the funny thing is i have actually
00:51:10.880
interviewed all of these people even guys like daryl cooper and yoram hozoni who probably don't see
00:51:16.580
very eye to eye uh but i have uh interviewed all of these people on my channel except carl schmidt
00:51:21.840
because i would need some necromancy to pull that off so if you know how to how to make that work i
00:51:26.560
guess let me know but otherwise i'll have to make do with having only uh interviewed three of these
00:51:31.880
people all right so let's let's go in and read a little bit of our of our fine thought piece from uh
00:51:38.320
from reason magazine here there was a time when the american right was conservative appreciated
00:51:43.160
inherited wisdom skeptical skeptical of rationalism wary of excessive government power and and against
00:51:50.520
radical change exemplified by figures like william buckley jr and ronald reagan american conservatism
00:51:55.460
is in the word of the dispatches jonah goldberg a political philosophy that divines the revolutionary
00:52:00.680
idea of classical liberalism so remember libertarians hate republicans they hate conservatives right they
00:52:07.040
hate all they don't like buckley they don't like ronald reagan and jonah goldberg i mean come on
00:52:13.140
the liberal fascism guy that's who we're gonna appeal to here so you can tell right away these
00:52:17.080
people are just completely controlled opposition right they they they don't care at all they will
00:52:21.600
lie they will they will you know this this is the guy who's like oh christianity uh aren't you
00:52:26.980
supposed to just like have open borders well are you christian well no but since you're you're christian
00:52:31.580
i can just lie and use this against you like it's the exact same thing right these people don't believe
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any of these people they don't agree with any of these values they reject these values uh that but you
00:52:41.300
know uh we we know that somewhere uh you know a fox news viewer might say i like ronald reagan
00:52:46.920
so we're just going to throw that out there the new right is not interested in defending these
00:52:52.340
distinctively american ideas drawing instead on collectivist nationalists and even monarchist
00:52:57.240
traditions from continental europe this new right seeks to wield the tools of government to advance its
00:53:01.820
own social cultural and religious priorities that's right for years the new right by its uh by its own
00:53:10.280
mission has rejected the tenets of classical liberalism including individual liberty mutual
00:53:14.480
toleration and limited government but the following the recent assassination of conservative commentator
00:53:19.220
commentator charlie kirk the new right has doubled down on its authoritarian tendencies by receiving
00:53:24.680
the cultural uh reviving the cultural teachings of carl schmidt one of uh the nazis chief legal minds
00:53:31.260
so several things are not true here first we did not reject uh the american founding um uh most you know many of us
00:53:38.400
at least do not uh i have uh made thorough references to george washington's farewell address to the
00:53:44.980
federalist papers uh you know hamilton's beliefs john adams beliefs uh i have dug deeply into you know
00:53:51.880
many many essays by guys like john jay uh and uh they of course just blow past all of this to say we embrace
00:53:58.060
the cultural teachings of carl schmidt now this is a lie reason magazine is just lying i'm not going to
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bother to assume but they are they're obviously committing uh uh uh libel here uh libel's written
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right i think i got that right anyway uh so carl schmidt uh uh is a political theorist and a jurist
00:54:16.300
he does not have cultural teachings that's just a lie i have what what i and others have noted is that
00:54:24.140
carl schmidt made true observations about politics in the same way that uh werner von braun made correct
00:54:32.100
assessments of uh how rockets work you don't have to be a nazi to take von braun's work and go to the
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moon you don't have to be a nazi to take carl schmidt's work and say hey this is an accurate
00:54:44.820
assessment of how certain aspects of politics work those are not cultural teaching so this is just a
00:54:49.880
lie outright the friend enemy distinction pioneered by schmidt uh they just explained well i guess i'll
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read how they explain it pioneered in schmidt's in the concept of the political first published as a
00:55:00.840
journal article in 1927 source people by collective identities pitted in a struggle for control of the
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decision-making powers of the society uh it does not do that that is how people work this is like
00:55:13.100
this is like saying that newton invented gravity
00:55:16.520
uh uh um yeah this is like uh uh sorry all of a sudden i can't remember a guy who set up the bomb
00:55:32.440
uh anyway uh this is like saying that you know newton invented gravity and that that you know because he
00:55:40.180
correctly observed uh uh the uh way in which gravity works he and thank you oppenheimer thank
00:55:47.020
you finally uh yeah that that that somehow uh oppenheimer created like because he correctly
00:55:53.000
understood how nuclear energy works uh and and how to and how to make bombs out of it therefore
00:55:58.920
he created that property of physics that is not true he simply observed the way that politics works
00:56:05.680
uh schmidt who's been called the crown jews of the third reich argued with a political community's
00:56:10.220
ability to govern or indeed survive at all depending on the powerful executive wielding the power of the
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state against those who oppose the people's interests yes he did uh so did thomas hobbs and why didn't
00:56:20.520
you mention thomas hobbs as a scary influence on the new right oh because he's considered a classical
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liberal like carl schmidt is just drawing from thomas hobbs so why aren't you talking about the
00:56:32.900
scariness of thomas hobbs because you just want to call people nazis because if you just said oh
00:56:37.680
the new right is drawing on thomas hobbs that wouldn't sound as scary so this has nothing to do with
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actually being worried about the intellectual caliber of the arguments or it's just saying nazi nazi nazi
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that's all that all reason is doing and of course in this environment we know what calling people
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as a nazi calling someone a nazi does it marks them for death so reason magazine is just a
00:56:59.600
is just the centrist hand of what antifa here we're gonna go labeling all these people
00:57:06.600
uh as nazis so that we can get them killed is that the plan thanks guys um liberalism uh be it
00:57:15.340
classical or modern challenges such uh manichaean distinctions and uh restricted the ability a
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political community to govern by uh centralized decree schmidt saw uh right-based individualism
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a preference for private uh over public decision making and a uh legal order rooted in universal
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rules as source uh as sources of paralysis that impeded decisive action all right they complained
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some more about how bad carl schmidt is let's get down to where ah here we go all right one of the more
00:57:46.800
vocal neo schmidians oh a neo schmidian he means a neo nazi they're trying to call me a nazi they're
00:57:52.820
trying to get me hurt they want they want people like antifa to hurt me that's what reason magazine
00:57:58.160
is trying to do they're trying to side with people who want to get us killed uh one of the more vocal
00:58:03.680
neo schmidians is oran mcintyre podcaster and writer for the blaze and the internet popularizer of
00:58:09.240
post-liberalism mcintyre has a long time affinity for schmidt uh no i just know that uh he's one of the
00:58:16.120
critical political theorists that you have to talk about do i have an affinity for machiavelli who i talk
00:58:20.620
about all the time bertrand de juvenal joseph de maestra aristotle alistair mcintyre why didn't
00:58:28.120
you list any of those names reason magazine oh because you're liars you're liars who are just
00:58:33.160
trying to smear people and get them killed that's why you didn't list any of the other thinkers that i
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go out in far more detail to discuss couldn't be bothered only talked about schmidt i wonder why
00:58:45.760
uh describing the friend of the distinction as the true essence of the political in his 2024 book
00:58:51.960
the total state he denounces classical liberal the classical liberal conception of democracy
00:58:56.920
as america's founding myth and turns to schmidt as the antidote no i don't that's a lie yet again
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i do not turn to schmidt as an antidote in fact i specifically decry him as an antidote i say he has
00:59:10.620
a correct assessment of certain aspects of politics but i in no way embrace his solutions to this
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problem the solutions that i embrace are aristotelian or you know from bertrand de juvenal
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that's where my solutions come from or the federalist papers they do not come from carl schmidt
00:59:29.880
in the book i specifically denounce fascism i specifically denounce totalitarianism
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but they don't do anything they don't mention any of that because they're liars and they want to
00:59:41.260
get people killed they are in lockstep with jimmy kimmel they are in lockstep with eric swalwell
00:59:48.980
they are in lockstep with antifa they are lying and trying to get people killed
00:59:53.700
although he brushes aside schmidt's nazi affiliation as deeply unfortunate yeah you mean i denounce it
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which what you mean is i directly denounce his nazism seems like a pretty big detail that you
01:00:09.800
might want to focus on but no that's not what this piece is for this is a leftist guilt by association
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piece you've got intellectual cooties you read something naughty and so you should be hurt
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in the wake of kirk's assassination mcintyre's podcast has transformed into a full-fledged schmidt
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show um no i think i might have mentioned carl schmidt like once
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but okay example of the friend of the distinctions abound mcintyre said on september 19th that the
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companies like discord need to pay a severe price for going out of their way to allow an organization
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of terrorist networks on their platform uh yeah
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you shouldn't allow them to like allow people to organize murdering people is is reason pro
01:00:59.360
the organization of terrorism okay is re is reason magazine coming out and defending the right of
01:01:08.420
people to organize the murder of charlie kirk because it sounds like reason magazine is coming
01:01:14.000
out and encouraging people to allow for the organization of terrorism to murder people like
01:01:20.800
charlie kirk uh let's see uh they talk about law saying that yeah social media platforms aren't
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responsible yes i understand uh supreme court precedent notwithstanding mcintyre insists that
01:01:34.320
actions needed to be taken too many people are dead yes you can't just let them kill people
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i know you're libertarians i know you're worthless but like you're really gonna just let people murder
01:01:48.480
your friends and family that's the plan in the name of like corporations not having to stop people
01:01:56.960
from planning murders we don't have time to hesitate it's just my my words i guess uh so i don't i'm not
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gonna read my words uh despite this ominous remark uh what oh what was the i'll go with their their
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emphasis here the italics and that's going to take some stuff that might make you queasy yes i also
01:02:15.800
said it could all be done under the color of law so i made very clear that everything should be done
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legally i think that kind of matters right you should take legal action to stop murders even if
01:02:26.880
it makes people uncomfortable yes squishes like uh squishes like uh reason don't want us to defend
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our families in fact it sounds like they want to send people to hurt our families so yeah i think we
01:02:38.840
should actually stop people from killing our families but thank you reason magazine for letting
01:02:42.740
us know that libertarian is libertarianism is a suicidal ideology uh despite this ominous remark
01:02:48.900
mcintyre says he has plenty of principles which include taking care of his country and his family
01:02:53.540
and his community and his faith yeah those are my principles uh to defend these principles mcintyre
01:03:00.480
says we're going to need to make sure that the left knows that there's a cost for what they've done
01:03:04.080
yes you can't just keep murdering people thousands of people need to go to jail and they need to be
01:03:08.820
bankrupted yes you can't run antifa cells you can't plan to murder charlie kirk you can't plan
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to murder ice agents you can't bring your guns and homemade explosives to a riot you can't you can't
01:03:21.220
assault a police officers sorry reason magazine i know you're in favor of all this stuff i have the
01:03:26.520
radical position of not being in favor of it unless mcintyre believes in punishing innocent for
01:03:32.920
crimes they did not commit he's promoting the subversion of principles uh to main principles
01:03:36.700
so this is a lie again reason magazine is lying directly i say in the very video that they are
01:03:42.140
talking about we should only go after people for crimes they have committed that it's illegal and
01:03:47.940
we should go after people who are legal so reason magazine is just lying they're just telling a bald
01:03:52.320
face lie hoping that their audience is too stupid to know what they're saying like if you just watch
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the video i say very clearly you should not go after anyone like just randomly you should go after
01:04:03.180
people who have committed crimes and these things are crimes criminal conspiracy to commit murder is
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a crime assaulting officers is a crime funding people who are about to do terrorism is a crime
01:04:15.200
i just want the law to be enforced but they say oh you're going after innocent people
01:04:19.660
he compounds uh this illogic with the fallacy of misplaced uh concreteness the left didn't kill
01:04:27.280
charlie kirk and evil gunman did uh you know here's the funny thing uh it turns out antifa is just an
01:04:33.000
idea to reason to turns out antifa is not real guys and we haven't seen multiple leftist uh commentators
01:04:41.740
openly supporting them cheering them on funding them it's not the left guys it's not real
01:04:48.180
it's it's just that libertarians are just leftists they're not anything different they're just
01:04:55.740
they're just leftists that's it they're just leftists who are pushing a leftist agenda you
01:05:00.740
could have put this thing in mother jones and it would have sounded exactly the same reason magazine
01:05:05.940
is just another leftist commie rag that's it oh they here's the beautiful part they finally have
01:05:14.200
to admit that i like didn't say most of the stuff that they just said and they have to put it in like
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uh they put it in like parentheses here for some reason mcintyre does caveat his remarks by saying
01:05:23.920
there's nothing that president trump can't do under the law that he needs to get done right now so they
01:05:28.600
lied in the sentence before and then they put the fact that they lied in like parentheses like they
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openly lied about what i said and then in the next thing they're like well he he caveated the remark
01:05:42.300
by actually saying exactly what we said he didn't say but this is cold comfort because the law can be
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used to to use to excuse moral atrocities schmidt was after all a legal theorist so again they they're
01:05:53.980
just lying directly and then being like well but uh he read carl schmidt sometimes so uh probably
01:05:59.320
doesn't mean it you know just complete lies it's it's unclear to whom the specific plural third person
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extends and that's the point mcintyre intends to create a us versus them paradigm that subverts
01:06:10.200
american mortal uh moral order and mutual respect and reciprocity recognition of rights no i think
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it was the bullet going through charlie's kirk charlie kirk's net that did that i think the
01:06:20.680
bullet that hit donald trump's ear that did that actually i think the people shooting at us are the
01:06:25.340
ones subverting the moral paradigm and creating an us versus them mentality i think the people who
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were cheering for charlie kirk's death were creating a us versus them mentality did reason magazine run
01:06:36.440
any articles on that did i miss that one oh that's right because they're just leftists they're just
01:06:42.980
leftists uh let's see here uh replacing with friend enemy uh this is not uh idle speculation the day
01:06:51.580
after charlie kirk's assassination posted uh mcintyre posted the the specific political distinction to
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which every political action and motive can be reduced is friend enemy and a liked comment on the
01:07:01.920
affirmation video uh ominously leads friend enemy distinction time uh yeah so we're noticing that
01:07:08.380
uh people are trying to kill us and that means that they're an enemy like if antifa tries to murder you
01:07:15.040
they're probably not your friend i feel pretty comfortable saying that people who are trying to
01:07:21.160
kill us are not our friends but okay they go on just uh to talk about how uh curtis yarvin is really
01:07:29.300
scary and i talk about him uh that daryl cooper uh is is is uh very scary and i've talked to him
01:07:36.580
actually it's funny they say that uh daryl cooper uh is also a schmidtian is a committed schmidtian i
01:07:43.100
don't think i've ever heard daryl cooper discuss carl schmidt at all like i'm sure he's probably said
01:07:47.740
at some point that you know something like the friend enemy distinction but i've never seen daryl cooper
01:07:52.680
like go in on at any length about uh this so again just complete lies complete lies they there's
01:07:58.220
nothing but a smear job so you get the idea that guys this is this is where uh this is the state of
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libertarians again i know there's some good ones out there god bless you uh but um maybe maybe we can
01:08:09.640
maybe you guys can finally just separate yourselves from these absolute uh garbage uh people uh maybe it's
01:08:15.620
time to to stop siding in any way with these people all right to the questions of the people
01:08:23.460
here today uh chan the man says uh not saying it's the motive but i've seen regular anti-mormon stuff
01:08:29.860
from the left prior to this especially ex-members of uh uh ex-jehovah uh slash christians irl too
01:08:37.240
yeah i'm sure there are a lot of leftists who hate uh mormons that would uh be of no surprise here
01:08:42.100
but again i don't know for sure uh there's already plenty of legitimate leftist violence that we can
01:08:47.160
easily tie to them i don't want to muddy the waters by tying things i can't prove so i want to stick to
01:08:52.040
the good examples so that when you make this argument to people who might be on the fence you can show
01:08:56.600
them all the very uh obvious and direct examples rather than uh throw things out there that you might
01:09:02.380
not know but of course it's very it's entirely possible that you're correct thirstworm says very
01:09:07.960
funny seeing so many of the reason guys being up on uh of an honors over uh after october 7th
01:09:14.080
literally raving nationalists about another country not america though i mean this was walter block
01:09:18.720
right like one of the most famous libertarians at all but all of a sudden he's a statist only for
01:09:23.020
israel i mean so yeah this is a theme throughout much of of uh uh certain parts uh there are of course
01:09:30.400
many parts of the libertarian movement that are not fans of israel uh but all of the beltway
01:09:34.660
mainstream reason magazine types tend to be yeah
01:09:37.380
uh thirstworm says anti-mormon documentaries are very popular among lefties and uh not right now
01:09:46.920
women i date have encyclopedic knowledge of mormon scandals somehow uh well first stop dating those
01:09:52.600
women but also yeah entirely possible again uh i don't i don't know i don't know enough about like
01:09:58.760
mormons and scandals that come out around mormons and and anything like that i'm just completely
01:10:04.100
uninformed uh so i'm not gonna like speculate on any of that but i would i would believe you
01:10:08.940
entirely that leftists hate mormons that would not be a shock to me at all again um you can debate
01:10:14.000
christianity and its extent uh but they certainly are coded as christians for the left they hate they
01:10:19.780
hate mormons just the same as they hate any other christian uh zero the hero says libertarians
01:10:25.800
fundamental flaw is not realizing nations are compromised of uh compromised of social connections
01:10:31.300
there is no nation until people form healthy bonds uh lots of the ideas uh decriminalizing drugs
01:10:37.240
destroy social cohesion yes libertarians uh fundamentally do not understand how to make a
01:10:42.060
functional civilization uh they they they kind of assume they start from the assumption that everyone
01:10:47.840
is a highly civilized 130 iq classical liberal and therefore they know how to operate in a society and
01:10:55.760
they don't need any kind of instruction or any kind of state or anything like that uh of course that's
01:11:00.680
not true uh so these these misunderstandings uh bad anthropology uh always leads to bad outcomes and
01:11:06.880
uh the libertarians are certainly in that camp jake is in del says owning a gun is level zero having
01:11:13.880
trusted friends who train with uh is what everyone should be focused on absolutely and you should be
01:11:19.600
buying uh digital radios with a es 256 trends transmission surplus motorolas p25s uh still out there all
01:11:29.320
right well there you go i guess radios that exist but yes you should most certainly be training with
01:11:34.460
friends find other people who have the same values as you and make sure that you guys are trading together
01:11:39.840
uh the tiny stupid demon says like jesse kelly i wanted uh an edit of that woman on the video
01:11:46.100
screaming as my phone ringtone yeah there is a there is a certain uh level of schadenfreude that just
01:11:52.200
oozes out of that tree kerper weirdo says apes together strong that is all yes always be chimping
01:11:59.640
uh matt greener says really trying not to black peel so i appreciate you highlighting the wins
01:12:04.580
but pam bondi cash patella christy gnome really make it difficult they don't have the right instincts
01:12:08.680
this is obviously true i've already called for the placement of pam bondi unfortunately that's about
01:12:12.840
as much as i can do uh but yeah it doesn't seem like we are uh have our most effective troops in those
01:12:18.280
positions i sure would appreciate it if we did um titus stupid demon says uh how at this point
01:12:26.080
in time are there still libertarians don't bother answering that i won't bother but thank you we're
01:12:30.580
all wondering it uh ruler of the donut says orin thank you for not being one of many nasty ghouls who
01:12:36.640
say this is bad uh but mormons are aren't fascist i mean are not christians yeah again uh that that's a
01:12:43.460
debate for another time i i you know i have my issues with doctrine uh but ultimately uh these
01:12:50.000
are people who are as far as i can tell very good people uh are often aligned with us uh and and like
01:12:56.640
i said they are christian enough they are coded christian enough to receive uh violence and hatred
01:13:01.300
from the left so uh you know it it's best not you know there are plenty of catholics who think that i am
01:13:07.260
not christian and won't go to heaven because i uh i'm not part of the catholic church um i hear this
01:13:13.400
from them on all the time whatever i disagree now is not the time uh at the moment if someone shoots
01:13:19.000
up a catholic church i'm going to defend catholics if someone shoots up a mormon church i'm going to
01:13:22.980
defend mormons we can hash the details out later we have uh an existential uh fight against an enemy
01:13:29.020
who wants to destroy us so uh yeah it inside the friend coalition that's right i said it
01:13:33.540
matt gradier says uh telling uh telling that nanya who feels that uh the need to talk to elon about
01:13:41.920
x the only social media website where the you basically have universal unrestricted free speech
01:13:47.400
yeah and even there not always but yeah it is certainly clear that the israeli government is
01:13:51.840
very worried about the fact that people can speak freely on twitter uh because the head of the
01:13:56.880
israeli government just said it out loud uh enrico palazzo says this is uh disgusting rote white
01:14:02.700
this is disgusting woke right propaganda that's what i hear uh creeper weirdo says what does it
01:14:09.060
say that a lot of us uh had a libertarian phase before becoming more right wing also the libertarian
01:14:15.460
party is a joke well okay so this is you know people will ask me all the time why do you talk
01:14:19.080
to so many libertarians why are you talking to dave smith why are you bringing tom woods on the show
01:14:23.120
why are you talking uh you know to to all these different uh libertarians and the answer is uh because
01:14:28.740
they're just like one step away from being on our team guys like we've all seen the the the libertarian
01:14:34.300
to right wing pipeline i mean you know a lot of us were libertarians at some level and then we you
01:14:40.080
know got older and we figured it out so yeah there there's a reason that i talk to these people uh
01:14:45.120
because they're so close to getting it and the only thing that's that's stopping them is this like
01:14:49.060
ideological obsession and if you can just break them about obsession then look it's like it's like dave the
01:14:54.400
distributors talking to leftists right like i i feel the need to speak with libertarians and try
01:14:59.660
to bring them to the other side i feel like that's a duty that i have so i try my best thirstworm says
01:15:05.900
notice how netanyahu will never go against the adl for labeling his good friend charlie kirk and his
01:15:11.420
organization as extremists hmm yeah this is this is a game that gets played a lot unfortunately uh it's
01:15:20.180
oh uh you know uh this organization we don't agree with everything they say well we denounce them
01:15:26.480
well no you know they're they're sure they're attacking uh you know people who who theoretically
01:15:32.680
supported us they're demonizing them but uh we kind of like what they're doing so we'll just kind of
01:15:37.780
turn a blind eye to that uh everyone can kind of see that like everyone everyone knows what you're
01:15:42.540
doing there florida henry says what would be the legality of organizing making citizens arrests of
01:15:49.300
antifa antifa force the issue so i would encourage you not to take that action yet because we are
01:15:54.900
seeing the trump administration start to take action in the streets okay um i do not uh i do not
01:16:00.760
advise you to go out and do battle with antifa okay we've seen how that goes and unfortunately
01:16:06.180
in many places they just end up arresting all the right wingers remember the proud boys guys
01:16:10.560
that is basically what that was for right so we're not going out and and challenging antifa in street
01:16:16.080
level politics we have at least in theory control of the government and the government should be the
01:16:20.700
ones stopping this however you do need to be prepared for the the fact that antifa is out there
01:16:25.800
and may try to hurt you and yours so you should be armed you should be ready you should be prepared
01:16:31.320
you should be training with people in case you need them but right now i would not advise going
01:16:36.560
out in groups and picking fights with antifa and try to make citizens arrests we are starting to
01:16:40.860
see the trump administration take action we should encourage them to take more action when we see a
01:16:44.960
response after we demand a response we should say good more okay that's what it should be great job
01:16:52.020
now do more of it that should be our first response if ultimately the government does nothing well that's
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a different scenario but we're not there yet so let's work within again the color of the law to get
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these things done no matter what reason magazine says i have done nothing but advocate for legal action
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so they can slander me they can libel me whatever uh but that's the truth
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no guard says razor fist has been pushing this idea recently as well uh if the american political
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spectrum today stretches from hamilton to jefferson um i'm not quite sure i mean obviously hamilton and
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jefferson uh had wildly different views so saying that when people say just the founders uh they they're
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they're kind of ignoring the fact that these people have very different ideas for what the founding
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would look like i mean they're still within a certain realm like they're not complete they are american
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at some level but there are two definitive branches at least of american uh of americanism that exist at
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the kind of the core of the founding of of the uh republic so uh if that's what you're talking about
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there then yes i would agree with that andrew guler says how often does the adl get sued for libel or
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defamation uh well they're famously stocked up with uh tons of lawyers so not very often i imagine
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because it's very difficult to do so but yes they absolutely should be if that is what they are
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doing and it's pretty clear that is what they are doing mostly peaceful merch says it's dumb to
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moderate to moderate to try to please hyphenated americans or hyphenated christians you're still in
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the out group and no compromise will change that fair enough but that doesn't mean you shouldn't speak
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the truth right like i i'm with you like don't don't don't try to don't try to change core beliefs
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or core principles or core uh uh loyalties to please people who hate you or are never going to be on
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your side i agree with that but that doesn't mean then you just need to choose the most radical thing
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that they oppose right this is this is the the problem when you go all the way and you're like well
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the left hates nazis so i'll just be a nazi no that's dumb that's dumb you're not a nazi because
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the left calls you a nazi or wants you to be a nazi that's stupid don't take the frame of your enemy
01:19:09.760
pick up the actual beliefs you have they might call those nazi too they probably will in fact they
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definitely will even reason magazine will call them nazi because they're liars who're trying to get
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people murdered but but ultimately you should believe what you actually believe what your real
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tradition and values draw you to which your religion teaches you what your family believe
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what your ancestors believe that is what you should believe those are the principles you should hold
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not because not because they make the left angry it's not about it's not about making the left rage
01:19:41.360
it's about returning to a true belief system not the one that's been handed to you
01:19:45.560
life of brian says uh l friendly and friend enemy uh derives directly from the sabbath being for man
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if the civil society takes priority over process it follows that there are conditions uh where process must
01:20:05.460
defer to preservation yeah i agree ultimately uh you you you if the the the the principles are there
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to make society better the society is not there uh just to uphold the principle you should in general
01:20:19.660
uphold the principle that's is the reason it's a principle is because it's what works for your
01:20:23.020
society most of the time and is good right that is a good thing but ultimately uh if there is some
01:20:29.240
crack in the civil order uh then you of course need to fix that uh and and if that's uh you need to
01:20:35.740
take action to resolve that problem because it will ultimately benefit the wider civil order then yes
01:20:40.400
ultimately that that is true enrico palazzo says chase oliver is representative of the gaping hole
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of the modern libertarian party yeah i think you've said everything that needs to be said there
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a life of brian says the fact that reason uh types play strict friend and me for israel is just further
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proof there's always the schmidtian exception uh uh the question is where again i don't know it's
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unlike i pay enough attention to reason to know where they've been on israel many of you are saying
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that they have been very uh pro israel in um con contrast to their other beliefs uh i i'm willing
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to believe that but i just don't know i can't cite those articles right away so i i'm not gonna like
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just go full bore on that not knowing uh you know where the truth lies there though i i would entirely
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believe you're correct about that cb says liberal fascism equals leftist because it is a collective
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totalitarianism characterized by symbolic relationship of the people with a leader embodying
01:21:37.100
the popular will why you guys hate uh i mean that's not even really uh what fascism is but i
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hear you uh uh freelancer you says libertarians are too cowardly and subversive to truly be right
01:21:51.100
wing it's also uh it's it's as close as they're willing to go without crossing over again yep generally
01:21:56.900
agree with that i think that's that's generally true again there are good libertarians out there just
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want to caveat that i have them on my show uh but as a general rule i think that that's a fair
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characterization of the mainstream libertarian position all right guys we're gonna go ahead
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