The Auron MacIntyre Show - September 29, 2025


The Libertarians Think I'm Scary | 9⧸29⧸25


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 22 minutes

Words per Minute

179.69565

Word Count

14,831

Sentence Count

267

Misogynist Sentences

10

Hate Speech Sentences

39


Summary

On today's show, Oren talks about the latest terror attack on a Mormon church in Michigan, the ADL's response to it, and why we should all be worried. Plus, a look at the latest in the war on Antifa, and a new event called Share the Arrows.


Transcript

00:00:00.320 Hey everybody, how's it going? Thanks for joining me this afternoon. I am Oren McIntyre. Before we
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00:00:35.060 weekend of news. We had a terror attack on a Mormon church. We had the ADL saying some rather insane
00:00:45.520 things. Jonathan Greenblatt added again. Benjamin and Yahoo talking about the woke right and the
00:00:51.580 importance of influencing American opinion on Israel. We'll be talking also about some positive
00:00:57.980 steps the Trump administration is taking against Antifa. We've actually seen some action on the
00:01:03.280 ground from the Trump administration, which is fantastic to see. And we'll also be going over
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00:02:16.780 All right. So the first thing, we had a rather tragic event here in Michigan. Looks like we had
00:02:26.840 a terror attack on a Mormon church there. A lot of people had speculated on who would be involved.
00:02:33.960 Obviously, we've seen a string of left-wing terrorism here recently that has attacked ICE
00:02:39.980 agents, has killed Charlie Kirk, has continued to have this extremely negative impact on kind of the
00:02:47.740 national psyche and our understanding of the rule of law. Many people assumed that this would be a
00:02:53.180 similar situation, rightfully so, given the fact that we already had a terror attack on a Catholic
00:02:59.540 church. Remember, just a few weeks ago, multiple children were killed by a trans shooter in that
00:03:04.840 scenario. So again, you can understand why everybody was on edge. I, like everybody else,
00:03:09.400 was on edge, not knowing what had happened here. It looks like this one might be a little more
00:03:15.600 complicated. From what we're seeing, the man involved was a 40-year-old Iraqi veteran.
00:03:23.220 Now, there's been a lot of fog of war around this, because obviously, veterans don't have to be
00:03:29.900 Republican or Democrat. I know plenty of left-wing veterans. I know right-wing, plenty of right-wing
00:03:35.820 veterans. So that doesn't really help us with anything. Some people were claiming that the man
00:03:40.380 had a Stop Trump sign on his house. We had a representative, Eric Swalwell, run out and post
00:03:48.640 a photoshopped picture of the man with a pro-Donald Trump t-shirt on and claiming that it was a Republican
00:03:55.660 who had done this. It was Republicans who were responsible for this violence. That is obviously
00:04:01.680 a lie. And obviously, this is another, I think, instance of the Jimmy Kimmel effect, where now
00:04:07.740 the leftist plan is to run out in front of anything before we know what's going on and claim that a
00:04:12.800 Republican was responsible. Plant fake evidence. Tell lies. Don't care about the truth in the slightest
00:04:19.840 so that you can manipulate the situation. The truth is that we don't know if there was an
00:04:25.160 ideological component to this. I'm sure this man, the authorities have said this was a
00:04:30.460 targeted attack on Mormons. It was an attack of hate. But that is all we know at this moment.
00:04:38.140 Perhaps we will learn more. Of course, if this was in any way right-wing, in any way motivated in that
00:04:44.900 way, we would obviously condemn it. We're not the left. We're not going to turn around and justify the
00:04:49.660 murder of innocent people because they might have read a book that we liked or something.
00:04:54.400 But we have no evidence of that. And of course, the left is trying their best to literally manufacture
00:04:59.460 the evidence in hopes that they can finally find one attack that is not left-wing since there have
00:05:06.140 been so many. It's very obvious that the left is very set on political violence, is committing
00:05:11.900 large amounts of political violence in the United States. They desperately want to make this a both
00:05:15.560 side's issue. But it keeps failing for them. That's why they have to keep lying. They lied about the ICE
00:05:21.660 sniper. They lied about the Charlie Kirk sniper. And they lied about this guy as well, all in the hopes
00:05:28.340 of pinning this on Republicans in multiple cases where either we knew it was a leftist, for sure,
00:05:34.540 or we're not sure where the violence came from. Again, pray for this community. Absolutely horrific.
00:05:41.620 Four people are dead, as my understanding, and multiple others have been wounded. The church was
00:05:49.220 set afire, as well as the multiple people killed. The shooter himself was killed by officers who
00:05:56.200 responded on the scene. However, this is going to open up a larger discussion we need to have.
00:06:02.680 All right. So it's very clear that at this moment in the United States, there is a desire to kill
00:06:12.160 Christians. I know some people are going to, you know, whether we talk about Mormons or Christians
00:06:17.320 or not, they were identified enough to be Christians to be part of a hate attack. So,
00:06:22.040 you know, we can definitely have that discussion. I certainly have my own opinions. I've made them
00:06:26.780 clear before, but now is not the time to have that debate. Now is the time to rally around people who have
00:06:32.280 been killed in a terror attack, have been targeted in a terror attack. And so I think that we need to
00:06:39.860 recognize that ultimately churches are going to continue to be a target of terrorism. Again,
00:06:46.600 remember just a few weeks ago, multiple Catholic children killed because they were Christians.
00:06:52.720 Okay. So this is now something that leftists are doing on a regular basis. Again, we don't know if this
00:06:58.100 guy is a, is a leftist. So I'm not making that claim here, but we do know that other attacks have
00:07:03.420 been by trans, whether it's the trans shooter in Nashville, killing multiple Christians, including
00:07:08.400 children, uh, like, you know, a year ago or, or a year ago now, uh, or if it's the, the, the shooting
00:07:15.000 at the Catholic school, uh, it is very clear that, uh, that churches have become a target of violence,
00:07:21.280 particularly left-wing violence in the United States. So a couple of things need to happen here.
00:07:25.720 Okay. First, of course, your personal responsibility as a Christian man. Okay. It is your personal
00:07:32.920 responsibility as a man, obviously to defend you and yours. That's, that's just your basic role.
00:07:40.100 That is your, your, uh, your reason for being, uh, many of us don't have to face violence on a regular
00:07:45.640 basis anymore, which is a blessing of our, uh, of a somewhat civilized society. Uh, but to your core,
00:07:51.760 you were designed, you were made as a man to stand and defend those around you. Uh, so that's just
00:07:58.300 your duty as a man, as a Christian man, obviously it is your duty to protect the flock. The church is
00:08:04.080 an extension of your family. And just as you would defend your family, you need to stand ready to
00:08:09.600 protect the church. So that means that you need to get a firearm. You Christian man, you need to get
00:08:17.660 a firearm. If you don't own a firearm, you need to get one now, not later. Don't think about it.
00:08:23.300 Don't make a lot of considerations. You need to arm yourself immediately. If you're a Christian man
00:08:28.860 and you can purchase firearm, you need to do so. Second, you need to be training with that firearm.
00:08:36.180 Okay. You don't just go by the firearm and throw it in a desk somewhere or in a, in a closet,
00:08:41.340 in a, in a nightstand, you need to be training on a regular basis. Okay. Uh, there are now very,
00:08:48.000 uh, affordable, uh, pistols that are of good quality, uh, that, that are not extremely expensive.
00:08:56.320 You can get, uh, like the CZ P10s, you can get, uh, shield, uh, Smith and Wesson shields. These are all,
00:09:03.260 you know, three to $400 reliable guns, uh, that, that are accurate and are not very expensive. You can go
00:09:10.880 out, you can get these, you need to go to the range, make sure you're running ammunition through
00:09:15.180 that gun. Okay. You need to make sure that you have, uh, you, you can have cheaper, uh, ammunition
00:09:20.140 for practice, but you need to be practicing with the ammo that you would be loading into your gun.
00:09:25.160 You need to, even if it's more expensive, you need to make sure your gun reliably fires the, uh,
00:09:30.420 self-defense ammo that you are purchasing. Uh, uh, you know, you can practice with, with the range
00:09:36.060 ammo most of the time, but make sure your gun functions properly with that ammo and you need to
00:09:40.680 spend time, be intentional. You can, if, if cost is an issue, you know, going to the range ammo and,
00:09:47.260 and range time can be expensive. It's a little bit of a investment upfront, but there is a,
00:09:52.700 uh, system there, there are several different systems. I have one personally, uh, that is a,
00:09:59.400 uh, you get a laser bullet, like you drop a, basically a laser pointer that goes off when you
00:10:04.220 pull the trigger of your gun and you get a target you, uh, that comes with it. You put your phone
00:10:09.420 in like a little, uh, holder that looks at the target and reads where the laser goes. And this
00:10:16.180 allows you to, uh, dry fire your weapon, practice your trigger pulls, practice, practice drawing from
00:10:23.140 a holster. You need to train. Okay. You need to spend time that will give you the ability to,
00:10:28.500 uh, uh, to, uh, train at home, uh, for a less expensive, uh, in a less expensive way. You can train
00:10:36.880 every day and you should be, you should be training with your gun every day. If you have one of these
00:10:42.160 home systems. Okay. So do that practice with the gun, practice dry firing at home, take it to the
00:10:48.540 range on a reasonable time, spend time training. Okay. The next thing you need to do is prepare
00:10:54.460 to conceal carry. You need to be carrying the gun with you. When you go anywhere, anywhere you go,
00:11:02.340 you need to be carrying a gun. As long as you are legally allowed to carry the gun there. Now in
00:11:07.360 my state, like Florida, you don't need a concealed carry permit. You can legally carry a gun without
00:11:12.720 a concealed permit. Again, as long as you're not carrying it into schools or specific government
00:11:17.000 buildings, there are restrictions, but you can carry the gun without any special, uh, you know,
00:11:22.400 background or training or anything like that. Now there are some States, uh, many States where you
00:11:27.280 can open carry Florida is actually one of those. Now I do not suggest open carrying that says shoot
00:11:33.280 me first. Okay. The upside of open carry in your state is that if there's some kind of accident,
00:11:38.720 if your shirt blows up, your jacket blows up, uh, you know, the wind takes it, you get snagged on
00:11:43.440 something and somebody sees your gun and a concealed carry only state, you could get arrested, right?
00:11:48.860 But if you're, you could be in legal trouble, but if you are in an open carry state, then you are
00:11:53.920 covered by the open pick carry law, even though you are concealed carry. So I don't advise open
00:11:58.660 carrying. I advise concealed carrying. Okay. I don't want the bad guy to know I have the gun.
00:12:02.920 I don't know, want him to know that he should shoot me for us or that he could take my gun
00:12:06.820 because he can see it visibly, but the open carry is laws are nice because then if there's any kind
00:12:12.400 of accident with printing or your, your, your gun being shown, you are covered, but you need to
00:12:17.260 conceal carry, get a good holster, a quality, a quality holster, uh, inside the baseband usually is the
00:12:22.980 way to go. Uh, make sure that the gun is something that you can conceal properly with your clothing.
00:12:28.540 Um, I I'm, I'm not going to, you know, maybe one day we'll get a breakdown on best concealed
00:12:32.200 options and all those things, but these are just things you need to do. You need to buy a firearm.
00:12:36.380 You need to be training with that firearm, know how to use it safely on a regular basis,
00:12:40.960 not just take it to the range once to make sure it works time on trigger all the time, spend your time
00:12:47.800 learning how to fire that gun and carry it everywhere. Because the last thing is you need
00:12:53.520 to be carrying it in your church. Okay. It's just, you cannot, you cannot outsource your safety to
00:13:00.060 someone else in these times. Okay. Right now we are in a situation where left violent leftists want to
00:13:06.160 kill you. You need to be prepared in, in the, uh, instance that something happens to your church.
00:13:13.040 Again, we don't know what the motivation was with this guy. I'm not blaming this, the left on the,
00:13:18.520 you know, this one on the left, cause we just don't know at the moment, but other situations
00:13:22.080 have already occurred. You need to be prepared. You and your church need to be prepared to defend
00:13:27.340 the people in that church. That means it is your duty, your individual duty. I don't want to hear
00:13:32.060 about anyone else. We'll talk about the wider response in a second, but you listening to this right
00:13:37.920 now, this is your duty. You cannot outsource it to anyone else. It is your job to protect yourself
00:13:45.740 and the people around you, including your church. Your church should be filled, filled with men
00:13:51.640 packing guns, prepared to defend your church. The end. You can't outsource it to anyone else. Okay.
00:13:59.720 If someone comes into your church, someone, this guy drove a truck into the church. Okay. That's,
00:14:04.640 that was part of the attack. Something like that happens. There should be a hail of gunfire coming
00:14:09.280 from the congregation to make sure that guy never takes a step out of that truck. Okay. So that is
00:14:16.040 what you need to do. People ask me all the time, well, what can I do or, and it's just typing on the
00:14:19.760 internet. It's just, this is what you can do right now. Here's your practical advice. Here is the step
00:14:25.120 by step. I am giving you purchase a gun, train with that gun constantly, learn how to wield it safely
00:14:33.580 and effectively and carry it wherever you go when it's legal, including the church. Okay. Your church
00:14:42.640 should be ready. Now, on top of this, on top of your personal responsibility, every church in the United
00:14:49.340 States needs to have a security rotation of their own people. Okay. This is not a job for outside
00:14:55.020 security sources. Maybe if you've got a good relationship with the police officers, I, you
00:15:00.140 know, my church has a great relationship with the police officers in my community. We always have
00:15:04.360 two out front directing traffic. So there's a level of security there just because the number of people
00:15:09.660 come in, it's impossible basically for my church to function without having, you know, the police escort
00:15:14.580 people in and out with the traffic because we just have too many people coming into the church. Uh, but,
00:15:20.340 uh, you, uh, beyond that, beyond the police, your church should have a defense program. Okay. Many
00:15:28.320 churches have former military, former law enforcement, current military law enforcement. These guys are
00:15:34.800 trained. They need to enter into a rotation of protecting the entrances and exits of your, uh, church,
00:15:41.960 especially the worship center. Obviously that's where most of the terrorist attacks are going to
00:15:46.280 take place. They're looking for large amounts of people, uh, you know, group together to, to be a
00:15:51.760 target to, to get the most kills. That's what these mass shootings are about. So they're almost always
00:15:56.000 going to go for the worship center. Uh, so make sure that there's there, your church has organized
00:16:01.800 a program. If your church doesn't have that program, you need to go to your pastor, go to your minister,
00:16:06.780 go to your priest and say, we need to start this now. And if they don't have a way to start it,
00:16:11.680 you need to start it. You need to work with them and say, okay, I will find if your military or law
00:16:16.600 enforcement, you should spearhead this. Okay. What can I do? This is what you can do. I don't want
00:16:22.300 to hear about, Oh, uh, there's nothing we can do. We don't get any advice on what to do this,
00:16:26.780 do this. Now you, as if you are military or law enforcement or former military or law enforcement,
00:16:32.380 you need to go. And if your church does not have a security staff, again, this shouldn't be paid
00:16:37.640 individuals. This should be the men of the church, the people of the church, defending the church.
00:16:43.240 It is your job. Don't look elsewhere. Don't hire security. You need to do it. Get these people
00:16:49.080 together. They need to train. They need to be prepared. They need to have a watch. You know,
00:16:53.920 the guys at my church have the whole, you know, the whole secret service earpiece thing going on
00:16:59.040 and everything. They are in constant communication. They're watching everything. Every church needs to do
00:17:03.720 this. This is no longer an option. This is a mandatory thing that your church has to do.
00:17:09.260 If your church leaders are queasy about it, then you need to kindly, but forcefully, you know, with
00:17:16.320 the love of God, but you need to let them know, I don't care. You know, we care more about the lives
00:17:22.840 of the people of this church than we do about any, you know, Ooh, if, what if people see scary people
00:17:27.660 standing security and they don't want to walk into the church? No, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Those days are gone.
00:17:32.940 Okay. Every church needs to have this program. So you personally need to train with a firearm and
00:17:39.360 carry it with you in church, be prepared to protect other people, but you also need a dedicated security
00:17:45.860 team watching these entrances and exits. They, you know, you can rotate them. You know, we, we've got
00:17:51.020 dozens of guys who do this. So it, you know, it's not like the same four guys every week. You can rotate
00:17:56.200 these people in and out. Obviously the size of your congregation is going to determine the level of
00:18:00.740 security coverage that you need, the number of people who can do this, you know, that kind of
00:18:04.620 thing. However, take initiative. Okay. You need to be involved in this. We are now in a climate simply
00:18:12.260 where churches are terrorist targets. That's it. It's terrible. It's horrible. I don't like it. I wish
00:18:18.500 it wasn't the case, but here we are and we don't have time to pretend otherwise. So this is your duty
00:18:23.500 as a man, as a Christian, you need to take responsibility on your level to prepare and to
00:18:29.780 protect. And you also need to encourage your church to have a formal program apart from your
00:18:35.060 personal carrying of a firearm of trained men. Uh, again, hopefully there you have law enforcement
00:18:40.860 or military usually do in your church. They need to be standing guard on a regular basis. This is a
00:18:46.780 non-negotiable, a non-negotiable at this, this point, very sadly, this is the way things are
00:18:52.100 and you need to be prepared. All right. Let's talk about some things that the Trump administration
00:18:56.700 is doing right. The Trump administration took some good actions here and we want to praise the
00:19:02.060 Trump administration when they are doing good things, especially after we criticize them for
00:19:05.940 not doing those good things yet. So let's take a look at what happened in Chicago recently when more
00:19:11.160 ICE rioters decided to, uh, protest, uh, and cause damage at a ICE facility. All right. We are live
00:19:18.500 outside of Broadview Attention Center here in Broadview, Illinois. Uh, federal agents are opening
00:19:26.200 the gate now. Yeah, they are.
00:19:35.600 Oh, yeah, they are.
00:19:38.540 Oh, yeah, they are.
00:19:42.460 yeah
00:20:04.060 oh
00:20:12.460 so it turns out that if you uh have a bunch of uh uh cockroaches and you just you know uh spray a
00:20:23.260 few of them with pepper spray they all run screaming right antifa is not tough they're
00:20:27.700 just dangerous because literally no one is doing anything the only reason that antifa became a
00:20:32.700 force at all was that we were just too cowardly to enforce the law the minute you enforce the law
00:20:37.460 they go screaming they go shrieking they are children who can't do anything these people are
00:20:42.620 not tough they are not trained they are they have no resolution the only reason yeah it's it's like
00:20:49.300 they're like little little kids who found a weapon right it's it's all just a game to them
00:20:54.100 until someone gets hit with you know once they pull the trigger on the gun but up until then
00:20:59.500 that you know they they all think it's a game they all think it's a marvel movie they all think that
00:21:03.380 you know their 110 pound woman is going to do a bunch of karate and take out a bunch of federal
00:21:08.100 agents in reality uh they just come out and fire a couple of uh pepper spray balls at these people
00:21:13.240 and they just go absolutely shrieking into the night uh so fantastic to see that the trump
00:21:19.060 administration is taking this seriously uh this is followed up uh here's from uh department of
00:21:24.540 homeland security uh they said uh during uh 11 rioters were arrested last night in chicago's
00:21:29.860 outside the ice detention facility there are two guns that were taken off the rioters in chicago
00:21:35.520 right against the fence of our detention maintenance facility so these rioters showed up
00:21:39.920 with firearms right uh now of course every you have the right to legally carry a gun uh in many cases
00:21:46.200 i hear chicago's a little strict on that though uh funny i wonder how many uh leftists we're going to
00:21:51.460 hear talking about the uh gun control laws in chicago after these two guns were taken off these
00:21:58.060 antifa rioters right i thought the chicago gun laws were supposed to prevent all of this crime
00:22:03.860 it's it's the solution right just fix the gun laws just fix the gun laws all you have to do is put
00:22:09.720 more gun laws out there oh wait chicago has some of the most restrictive gun laws in the world i guess
00:22:14.100 who's breaking them leftist terrorists because the gun laws don't do anything so whenever anyone tells
00:22:19.460 you oh we need more gun laws that'll stop these shootings no literally the murderers the terrorists
00:22:25.520 have the guns even the leftists who are pushing for gun control have the guns
00:22:30.080 these are the people who are pushing for gun control they have guns in chicago where the gun
00:22:36.180 control is the strictest okay and in addition to these guns uh also canic oh come on turkish guns
00:22:42.600 really people uh so uh uh well here we also have uh what seems to be an improvised explosive device
00:22:49.880 so it could be that not only are these people uh uh bearing uh guns but they also have homemade
00:22:55.680 uh explosives that they are looking to lob at ice agents so this is full-on days of rage anarchist
00:23:03.640 bombing type terror attacks okay that's what these people are doing so thank god the trump
00:23:08.980 administration when i found out my friend got a great deal on a wool coat from winners i started
00:23:14.400 wondering is every fabulous item i see from winners like that woman over there with the designer jeans
00:23:20.840 are those from winners ooh are those beautiful gold earrings did she pay full price or that leather
00:23:26.920 tote or that cashmere sweater or those knee-high boots that dress that jacket those shoes is anyone
00:23:33.420 paying full price for anything stop wondering start winning winners find fabulous for less
00:23:39.800 got it all together right and they said okay let's we're finally we're gonna we we we knew that they
00:23:45.400 were going for the long game we knew that they were planning to take on the ngos and put together a
00:23:50.320 a a court case and that's going to take a long time maybe rico all this stuff it's going to take time to
00:23:55.840 do that but in the meantime they had to take control of the streets back they had to show the left they
00:24:00.380 couldn't keep doing what they were doing they had to show that there were consequences for leftist
00:24:04.660 violence and i'm glad that they got that message and that they got involved we got yeah you got uh
00:24:10.480 11 different writers arrested uh and uh guns now i would have liked to seen everyone arrested
00:24:15.960 there's no reason that everyone shouldn't be arrested here they're all involved it's like j6 i want them
00:24:21.900 all just take them all okay uh but at least they arrested a good amount of people uh got the most
00:24:27.700 dangerous people with uh with different weapons uh off off of the street including uh homemade
00:24:33.180 explosives right all right so another uh positive thing uh that the trump administration did
00:24:39.780 recently uh we remember we had the uh the woman who assaulted this officer uh in an in new york city
00:24:46.780 uh courtroom and uh she got pushed to the ground because when you assault an officer and you reach
00:24:51.880 as you can see with her hands there you can see the reach uh around his weapon was she going for the
00:24:56.600 weapon it doesn't matter you don't know in the heat of the moment as a police officer you do not know
00:25:01.180 if someone puts their hands on you especially when they're putting their hand near your weapon
00:25:04.880 they are basically armed at that point and she's very lucky that the only thing she got was a push
00:25:10.380 okay but she got pushed over she fell down the officer was momentarily uh uh suspended from duty a lot of
00:25:17.840 people said hey this is garbage uh you need to stand behind your officer and they did she she he's been
00:25:22.780 fully reinstated uh and he's he's fully returned to duty so that is good uh again glad to see uh that
00:25:29.900 uh uh glad to see that the the trump administration is listening that they are taking this seriously
00:25:35.280 and that they are taking action so we have the arrests uh we have the reinstatement of this ice officer
00:25:40.620 um uh another thing that is very interesting uh andy no was reporting on this recently uh he says if you
00:25:48.920 see the people in these green hats at far left riots uh know that they are not independent legal observers
00:25:55.140 but are rather members of an antifa legal group called the national lawyers guild this group helps
00:26:00.140 antifa and far left terrorists escape prosecution so uh yeah andy do it no does a lot of reporting on
00:26:07.400 uh antifa obviously he's famously been attacked by these people uh multiple times uh but it's an
00:26:13.420 interesting point you know the uh a lot of people they the way the left tries to cover for antifa is they
00:26:18.860 say oh they're not real it's it's not a it's not a real organization it doesn't have it doesn't have
00:26:23.960 an official central head it hasn't like filed papers with the irs so it can't be a real organization uh
00:26:30.420 but they have a lawyers guild working for them like they literally have people attending their events
00:26:36.400 they're just to deploy uh themselves as like lawyers who can intervene or observe what's going on and
00:26:44.260 prepare for legal defense of the antifa rioters does that sound like an organization that is well
00:26:49.500 not an organization is that just an idea antifa is just an idea but it literally has legal organized
00:26:54.280 legal counsel waiting to like get involved and sue people and try to get people out of jail does that
00:27:00.940 sound like a a ragtag operation does that sound like just a few guys getting together extreme no it's
00:27:07.940 obviously a terrorist network it's a terrorist network that literally has its own it's the mob it's the mob
00:27:14.260 okay they have their own legal apparatus prepared to bail them out of jail when they do crimes it's
00:27:20.300 the mob it's organized crime it's organized crime that's why rico needs to happen these tear cells need
00:27:25.780 to be taken down uh again glad to see that the trump administration has begun work on that more arrests
00:27:31.280 please continue go for the whole go for the whole protest next time every one of these people
00:27:36.500 assaulting police officers and assaulting ice officers they should be arrested uh go for it
00:27:41.780 but definitely glad to see trump administration starting to take this far more seriously and
00:27:48.920 you can tell they really took it seriously uh because uh pete hegseth the secretary of war
00:27:55.140 has officially deployed the national guard to portland oregon which is constantly under uh antifa
00:28:01.240 violence sees a lot of antifa violence they're very active uh in portland oregon and the national
00:28:07.120 guard has been deployed to keep the city safe so again great to see great steps great response by
00:28:14.220 the trump administration uh you know as we say here always chimp trust the plan okay so we we make our
00:28:21.620 we make our voices known we may we we let the trump administration know what our concerns are and we
00:28:27.700 see responses that is great news okay that is great news and i'm glad to see the trump administration
00:28:33.480 taking action on this so very glad that they are being deployed to port portland to make sure that
00:28:39.980 the national guard will be protecting uh ice agents as they operate there as well all right so uh we got
00:28:48.020 the church attack we talked about uh i think that's all of our antifa stuff all right so let's move on
00:28:53.520 to uh some some of our favorite topics here oh sorry one more good thing the trump administration
00:28:58.620 again i knew there was one more uh one of uh my uh followers sent this to me uh it looks like the
00:29:04.140 trump administration has been helping to crack down on illegal uh truck drivers in the united states we
00:29:10.520 know uh that there is a uh a epidemic of foreign truck drivers who are not qualified uh driving on
00:29:19.100 american streets now we don't want them anyway because we don't need foreigners taking good american jobs
00:29:23.840 uh truck driving is a classic blue collar uh a job that allows someone who doesn't have a lot of
00:29:30.720 training doesn't have a lot of uh experience can still make a good living and support a family that
00:29:36.620 was a classic american job for a long time the long haul trucker was able to elevate himself beyond
00:29:42.200 uh kind of the lower income working poor status because of the availability of good jobs like this one
00:29:48.220 and the fact that foreigners have captured a portion of that is already bad but it is also very
00:29:53.660 unsafe of course we all remember uh multiple people killed by a indian truck driver uh who was who
00:30:00.800 should not have been operating a truck in florida uh here recently uh so it looks like ice has worked
00:30:07.040 with the state of oklahoma to take 130 truck drivers off the road as part of a three-day sting on
00:30:13.860 drivers who could not read road signs did not understand the law so again good to see that the trump
00:30:19.900 administration has stayed on this they didn't just issue a press release somewhere and then move on
00:30:24.560 they've stayed on this they are clearing uh these illegal drivers off of our roads they are forcing
00:30:30.140 illegal immigrants out of these positions good very glad to see this good work ice good work trump
00:30:36.460 administration good work state of oklahoma which is working with these people and it's and uh in the
00:30:42.460 story it said that the majority of these people are getting their licenses from california so gavin
00:30:47.460 newsom is of course trade uh just minting licenses for truck foreign truck drivers to kill people in
00:30:53.120 the united states uh he is garbage uh he has been calling basically for like the murder of stephen
00:30:58.700 miller by calling him a fascist regularly on his uh on his social media account or obviously he's
00:31:03.860 probably not doing it he's probably got some intern doing it uh but just just just a cursed governor
00:31:08.440 uh completely horrific uh but glad that states like oklahoma are stepping up in uh in um concert with
00:31:16.940 the trump administration so great job there all right so now let's talk about everybody's favorite
00:31:21.940 topic israel all right so here's a recent meeting uh uh benjamin netanyahu who uh you know has decided
00:31:29.920 that he needs to uh reduce anti-semitism and anti-israeli feelings on the internet and so he had a a conference
00:31:38.680 with a large number of uh influencers uh to try to uh figure out their strategy for how they were going
00:31:46.240 to change american opinion let's take a listen
00:31:48.580 he said he talked about the woke right he said i call it the woke right
00:31:57.880 that's a brilliant the woke right because these people
00:32:03.720 oh man the prime minister of israel is calling everyone woke right i wonder where that term came
00:32:10.520 from i wonder where that term came from at the conference where he's talking about how important
00:32:17.260 it is to use social media influencers to drive israel's understanding of the world to promote
00:32:24.300 israel's uh you know uh uh reach to to sway uh the the opinions of americans on the state of israel
00:32:32.760 he deploys the term woke right oh man what a shocker there
00:32:38.540 no they're not any different from the woke left i mean they're insane
00:32:44.080 but they're actually meeting on some of the things and what we have to do is we have to secure
00:32:50.960 that part of our the base of our support in the united states that is being challenged systematically
00:32:57.200 so we need to secure that base of our support in the united states
00:33:01.960 uh let me translate that for anyone who is missing it we need to manipulate
00:33:08.220 public opinion in the united states we need to make sure that other people
00:33:12.660 aren't allowed to hold opinions we don't like in the united states right that that's what he's saying
00:33:18.980 i just wanted to make it clear if vladimir putin was brazen enough to say this out loud we'd be
00:33:24.600 talking about the next round of sanctions we need to drop on russia right we'd be talking about the
00:33:29.620 foreign influence operations impacting our election buying our politicians we'd be talking about all of
00:33:35.960 that from russia or china if they said this stuff out loud and we should because i don't want russia
00:33:41.160 or china influencing my politics but netanyahu's just bragging about it like here's our plan we are
00:33:50.020 going to in we're going to attack the woke right and we are going to use our influence to manipulate
00:33:57.300 public opinion in the united states a lot of this is done with money money of ngos vast money of
00:34:06.520 governments faster okay we have to fight back now again i i i agree that i don't want any foreign
00:34:15.500 nation manipulating the politics of my nation and this just doesn't just mean israel it's not just israel
00:34:22.800 here china i don't want them influencing it ukraine i don't want them influencing it russia i don't want
00:34:28.720 them influencing us i certainly don't want any place like qatar or saudi arabia arabia influencing us
00:34:34.960 i'm not just singling israel out here i don't think any of these nations should have this foreign
00:34:40.740 influence and i understand why they want it i don't care we should be making every one of these people
00:34:47.920 file under farah none of these people should be allowed to walk around as if they are
00:34:53.280 working in the interest of america when they are actually working for a foreign government but that
00:34:58.440 also includes israel okay i get what he's saying here we have to do defense because everybody else
00:35:03.140 is influencing well first i mean come on man that's just kind of insulting like uh all these other
00:35:08.320 countries are using money and ngos and influencing politicians yeah you don't say no
00:35:14.080 would be terrible if a country did that right like kind of audacious to like yeah well everyone
00:35:20.800 else is doing what we've been doing for a long time so we got to do it well yeah i guess but like
00:35:25.640 come on man uh so ultimately like i get what he's saying here like he he's worried that these other
00:35:30.660 countries are influencing the united states and and undoing all the work he's done influencing the
00:35:36.980 united states and they're using a lot of the stuff that they used to influence the united states so now we
00:35:43.120 got to get in there and we got to do it right so i get it i i don't want any of it it's not that i
00:35:48.040 just don't want israel doing it i don't want anyone doing it but he's just admitting that he's basically
00:35:52.360 we're in 5g warfare right we're in fifth generation warfare where he's just actively going to we're
00:35:58.580 constantly battling over the control of the american state over american public opinion i don't want
00:36:04.760 these people influencing american public opinion i don't want israel doing it i don't want china
00:36:09.340 doing it i don't want russia doing it i don't want any of these people doing it i don't want
00:36:13.320 qatar doing it i don't want any of these people doing it get all of this foreign influence out of
00:36:18.560 my country this is what george washington warned us about if we make a favored nation our if we make
00:36:24.420 a nation our favorite nation a foreign country a favored nation then our entire country will be open
00:36:29.500 to foreign subversion which will destroy our republic these are george washington's words when he left
00:36:35.080 office at the very beginning of our country if we let these people become our favored nation then it
00:36:41.780 will be a dividing line between our country and it will manipulate our opinion and they will pour money
00:36:46.820 and they will pour influence into our country and destroy our republic no i don't want anyone doing
00:36:52.720 this israel and include it how do we fight back our influencers how do we fight back our influencers
00:37:00.700 our influencers he owns them our influencers the ones that are acting in america our influencers
00:37:10.900 interesting you should also talk to them if you have a chance to that that community they're very
00:37:18.420 important and secondly we're going to have to use the tools of battle you know the weapons change
00:37:25.140 over time you can't fight today with swords that doesn't work very well okay and you can't find with
00:37:31.300 the fight with cavalry that doesn't work very well and you have these new things you know like drones
00:37:36.740 things like that i won't get into that but we have to fight with the weapons that apply to the battlefield
00:37:42.980 in which we engage and the most important ones are the social media
00:37:48.420 so he's openly describing american public opinion as a battlefield on which israel is waging war
00:37:54.040 now again i don't want a single just israel out here many other nations are doing this all of them
00:38:01.780 need to be expelled all of them china shouldn't own a single piece of land in the united states we
00:38:07.600 should stop importing any chinese nationals they shouldn't be coming to our uh our our colleges i don't
00:38:13.480 want any of these people being involved i don't want arab money here i don't want ukrainian money i
00:38:18.260 don't want any of this stuff here okay but he is openly explaining this and remember this is a country
00:38:23.960 we send billions of dollars to every year that's not even including like military excursions that we
00:38:32.640 kind of initiate on their behalf or participate in on their behalf just just as a baseline we send these
00:38:40.600 people billions of people billions of dollars every year and he's explaining how he needs to use money
00:38:45.320 and influencers to control american public opinion because it is a battlefield on which israel must wage war
00:38:52.160 we are paying israel to influence us to pay money to israel it's insane it's insane okay again you don't have
00:39:01.420 to hate israel to think this is bad you don't you can support the state of israel as its own separate country
00:39:08.220 and still think this is bad right i wouldn't want england i support england being a nation actually i
00:39:15.040 wish they would get rid of their current government uh but i i support the idea of england as its own
00:39:20.820 nation i don't want england buying influence in the united states when the labor party sent people to work
00:39:26.720 for joe biden's campaign i was just as angry then about the foreign influence it's not just israel
00:39:32.660 but it's obviously israel and we're sending these people billions of dollars and he's openly talking
00:39:37.600 about how he's going to use money to manipulate our public opinion because it's a battlefield he has to
00:39:43.180 wage war in the most important purchase that is going on right now is class
00:39:49.760 number one number one and i hope it goes through because it's uh it can be consequential
00:40:00.400 and the other one what's the other one that's most important x that's very good and you know so we
00:40:09.820 have to talk to elan he's not an enemy he's a friend so he talks about the need to purchase
00:40:15.700 online platforms like tiktok that might allow information or viewpoints that he doesn't like
00:40:22.600 on there same thing with twitter right he says oh you hear one of the influencers in the meeting saying
00:40:29.180 oh it's a cesspool right they need to control the information on these social media platforms
00:40:34.660 he's just saying this openly again the uk is talking about this kind of stuff too but we reject that
00:40:41.000 the uk government is talking about the need to try to censor x but we reject that germany says that we
00:40:46.760 reject that why aren't we rejecting it with israel again i don't want any of these countries
00:40:52.480 controlling the social media in my country but that includes israel they are on the list including
00:40:59.060 england and germany and china of places i don't want to control my social media and yet netanyahu is
00:41:05.760 saying we need to we need to do this we need to get control of these platforms so uh again you don't
00:41:11.880 have to have like hate in your heart for israel or jewish people in general to say i do not want
00:41:17.080 foreign influence in my country i don't have to hate russians to say i don't want russia influencing
00:41:22.520 my elections i don't have to hate ukrainians to say i don't want ukrainians influencing my government
00:41:27.280 and begging for money for my government you don't have to hate anyone in israel to say i don't want
00:41:32.820 them getting billions of dollars from me and then turning around and apparently working with
00:41:39.800 influencers in the united states to change the opinion as if it's a battlefield on which israel
00:41:44.780 is fighting okay and if you've ever if you're one of these conservatives who's like i stand against
00:41:48.500 public sector unions because they get money from the taxpayer and then they turn around and uh you know
00:41:54.440 and and then they turn around and they spend that money on uh uh uh on uh influencing us you
00:42:03.340 know influencing politicians buying politicians if you've ever someone who's made that argument
00:42:07.280 about public sector unions guess what this is the same thing right this is the same thing and if
00:42:14.480 you make a special exception for israel it's because you didn't have any principles on that anyway
00:42:18.880 you're just carving out a special exception for israel all right uh the adl uh here is uh jonathan
00:42:25.860 greenblatt of the adl speaking about all of the new things that he needs to do to crush uh opposing
00:42:33.020 opinions in the united states playing defense we stopped playing defense and have moved to offense
00:42:43.620 you see this in our focus on the courts in the past 12 months adl's filed more lawsuits than the prior
00:42:52.280 112 years against extremist groups elite universities public companies school districts and state sponsors of
00:43:02.800 terror we've launched innovative products intercept anti-semitism before it takes root whether in the
00:43:10.460 boardroom or in chat rooms large language models or academic associations in wikipedia entries or whatsapp chats
00:43:20.880 this work matters not just for the jewish people but for all of society so he says here that in addition
00:43:29.540 to the adl launching like a record number of lawsuits which of course it has been doing for a very long time
00:43:34.500 but in in addition to it launching a record number of lawsuits the adl is also according to jonathan
00:43:41.640 greenblatt uh launching innovative products so surveillance software right that's what he's saying
00:43:51.040 here we've launched uh surveillance software that will that will stop you having the wrong think
00:43:56.840 discussions in a boardroom or a chat room we've got it doesn't matter if you're building a large language
00:44:01.840 model or you have an academic association or you're entering something in wikipedia or in your whatsapp chat
00:44:07.300 in your personal chat in your whatsapp chat we're monitoring you we're deploying surveillance of you this is the adl
00:44:15.700 talking about how it's surveilling american citizens to stop them from having the wrong type of discussions
00:44:24.160 the adl needs to go this is insane the adl has been a hate organization for many many years it has
00:44:33.040 been nothing doing nothing but attacking people getting them uh making them lose their job lose
00:44:38.740 their company get debanked uh get destroying their lives the adl is a hate group that targets and tries
00:44:46.200 to dismantle the american people okay i saw people saying oh man the adl all they do is increase
00:44:52.300 anti-semitism i thought that's what they were not supposed to do guys the purpose of a system is
00:44:56.860 what it does if the adl is says it's supposed to get rid of anti-semitism but it's promoting more
00:45:05.040 anti-semitism by its constant attacks on america then the purpose of adl is not to reduce anti-semitism
00:45:11.580 the purpose of the adl is to destroy the united states and that's what it does the adl exists to
00:45:17.820 destroy the united states of america it is not a civil rights group it's not an anti-hate
00:45:22.200 group it is a pro-hate group it hates the united states the purpose of the system is what it does
00:45:26.920 jonathan greenblatt does not reduce anti-semitism he destroys the united states he builds programs
00:45:33.200 with the intent of spying on american citizens and destroying their lives he just said it openly
00:45:39.160 so yeah the adl needs to go now not only did he make this announcement but many people have
00:45:45.760 recently noticed that in addition the adl has also declared turning point an anti-semitic organization
00:45:53.940 right uh let's see here uh yeah it's it's listed under extremist and hate groups for them the tp usa
00:46:02.460 charlie kirk loved israel he loved israel but he disagreed with some of what america israel was doing
00:46:09.080 and just that disagreement that that having any disagreement at all there were problematic
00:46:15.300 comments at tp usa they get listed as a hate group under the adl they get listed in their glossary of
00:46:21.220 extremism and hate home right that's what they're doing charlie kirk's organization listed as a uh a hate
00:46:31.020 organization absolutely absolutely insane okay these people need to have their organization dismantled
00:46:39.080 it is a threat to the united states it is an attack on americans is attack on their ability to speak
00:46:44.380 it's an attack on their ability to care about their own homeland it is an attack on their ability to
00:46:50.200 communicate and work as free people the adl is designed to attack america and its values
00:46:57.900 to the point where it is it will even label tp usa as some dangerous organization because at some point
00:47:04.980 a speaker said something they didn't like even though the organization overall is pro israel
00:47:11.060 the fact that their founder charlie kirk loved israel didn't matter they had questions and so they had to
00:47:18.160 go they need to go absolutely absolutely say the adl needs to be dismantled it should be investigated along
00:47:26.180 with all these ngos i hope trump is including this listen i hope trump and pam bondy are including this
00:47:36.480 in their network of possible antifa helpers pro antifa organizations because remember
00:47:45.460 the adl does not list antifa as a hate group or a terrorist organization it says
00:47:52.640 it goes with the leftist line that antifa is an idea so they give a antifa pass
00:47:58.460 but they demonize turning point usa the people who killed charlie kirk get a pass from the adl
00:48:05.880 but charlie kirk is denounced these people should be investigated now i don't have a lot of hope for
00:48:13.280 that because of what pam bondy said when she was asked about this far more likely that she'll be
00:48:18.080 defending the adl then prosecuting them but she should because they are clearly one of the organizations
00:48:24.200 that is helping to normalize antifa's violence you should be going after them under rico just like
00:48:30.060 you're going after all these other ngos and if you don't we know why we know why we know why you're
00:48:37.280 giving a pass to the organization that demonizes charlie charlie kirk's organization but gives a free
00:48:42.080 pass to the people who killed him we know if you don't do this so please trump administration has
00:48:49.240 done a lot of great stuff last few days big fan here's another one here's another homework assignment
00:48:54.900 guys the adl should be investigated along with all of these other ngos that are assisting antifa
00:49:02.100 because they clearly are providing cover for them they are clearly running cover they are printing lies
00:49:07.700 about antifa while uh demonizing turning point usa they are printing lies to defend antifa to cover
00:49:15.440 for antifa while they are excoriating the organization of the man that antifa killed
00:49:20.900 we obviously need to fix this okay all right so let's go to uh the actual uh main theme of the show
00:49:30.840 which was the reason magazine article gonna be a little longer today guys didn't mean to go quite that
00:49:35.840 long but here we are all right so reason magazine now uh before i get into this just want to remind
00:49:51.620 you that of course reason magazine is is the lolbert magazine okay uh this is uh obviously uh i'll go with
00:49:59.320 the not all libertarians here because somewhere the mises institute guys are like we're not these guys
00:50:03.900 okay i got it the beltway libertarians though some of you would say this about me as well
00:50:08.560 so the beltway libertarians are mainly i mean useless at this point when's the last time anyone cared
00:50:16.640 about what reason magazine said you can't can't really think about it but i got my first hit piece
00:50:21.240 you know and i feel like uh having gotten my first hit piece i should i should uh investigate
00:50:26.080 uh what the fine uh sharp minds of the lolberts have to say about me first you can see uh you know the
00:50:33.260 american new right looks a lot like the european old right ah hello fellow europeans uh when
00:50:40.180 conservatives reject constitutional limits on executive power and foment civil conflict what
00:50:44.760 exactly are they conserving uh you can see here uh we've got very scary men like myself uh curtis
00:50:51.660 yarvin uh uh yoram hozoni uh you know the infamous dangerous yoram hozoni of the woke right uh daryl
00:51:01.160 cooper uh and carl schmidt uh because of course we need to put carl schmidt in everything that's what
00:51:06.220 makes everything so scary and dangerous carl schmidt now the funny thing is i have actually
00:51:10.880 interviewed all of these people even guys like daryl cooper and yoram hozoni who probably don't see
00:51:16.580 very eye to eye uh but i have uh interviewed all of these people on my channel except carl schmidt
00:51:21.840 because i would need some necromancy to pull that off so if you know how to how to make that work i
00:51:26.560 guess let me know but otherwise i'll have to make do with having only uh interviewed three of these
00:51:31.880 people all right so let's let's go in and read a little bit of our of our fine thought piece from uh
00:51:38.320 from reason magazine here there was a time when the american right was conservative appreciated
00:51:43.160 inherited wisdom skeptical skeptical of rationalism wary of excessive government power and and against
00:51:50.520 radical change exemplified by figures like william buckley jr and ronald reagan american conservatism
00:51:55.460 is in the word of the dispatches jonah goldberg a political philosophy that divines the revolutionary
00:52:00.680 idea of classical liberalism so remember libertarians hate republicans they hate conservatives right they
00:52:07.040 hate all they don't like buckley they don't like ronald reagan and jonah goldberg i mean come on
00:52:13.140 the liberal fascism guy that's who we're gonna appeal to here so you can tell right away these
00:52:17.080 people are just completely controlled opposition right they they they don't care at all they will
00:52:21.600 lie they will they will you know this this is the guy who's like oh christianity uh aren't you
00:52:26.980 supposed to just like have open borders well are you christian well no but since you're you're christian
00:52:31.580 i can just lie and use this against you like it's the exact same thing right these people don't believe
00:52:35.960 any of these people they don't agree with any of these values they reject these values uh that but you
00:52:41.300 know uh we we know that somewhere uh you know a fox news viewer might say i like ronald reagan
00:52:46.920 so we're just going to throw that out there the new right is not interested in defending these
00:52:52.340 distinctively american ideas drawing instead on collectivist nationalists and even monarchist
00:52:57.240 traditions from continental europe this new right seeks to wield the tools of government to advance its
00:53:01.820 own social cultural and religious priorities that's right for years the new right by its uh by its own
00:53:10.280 mission has rejected the tenets of classical liberalism including individual liberty mutual
00:53:14.480 toleration and limited government but the following the recent assassination of conservative commentator
00:53:19.220 commentator charlie kirk the new right has doubled down on its authoritarian tendencies by receiving
00:53:24.680 the cultural uh reviving the cultural teachings of carl schmidt one of uh the nazis chief legal minds
00:53:31.260 so several things are not true here first we did not reject uh the american founding um uh most you know many of us
00:53:38.400 at least do not uh i have uh made thorough references to george washington's farewell address to the
00:53:44.980 federalist papers uh you know hamilton's beliefs john adams beliefs uh i have dug deeply into you know
00:53:51.880 many many essays by guys like john jay uh and uh they of course just blow past all of this to say we embrace
00:53:58.060 the cultural teachings of carl schmidt now this is a lie reason magazine is just lying i'm not going to
00:54:03.720 bother to assume but they are they're obviously committing uh uh uh libel here uh libel's written
00:54:10.020 right i think i got that right anyway uh so carl schmidt uh uh is a political theorist and a jurist
00:54:16.300 he does not have cultural teachings that's just a lie i have what what i and others have noted is that
00:54:24.140 carl schmidt made true observations about politics in the same way that uh werner von braun made correct
00:54:32.100 assessments of uh how rockets work you don't have to be a nazi to take von braun's work and go to the
00:54:39.340 moon you don't have to be a nazi to take carl schmidt's work and say hey this is an accurate
00:54:44.820 assessment of how certain aspects of politics work those are not cultural teaching so this is just a
00:54:49.880 lie outright the friend enemy distinction pioneered by schmidt uh they just explained well i guess i'll
00:54:56.620 read how they explain it pioneered in schmidt's in the concept of the political first published as a
00:55:00.840 journal article in 1927 source people by collective identities pitted in a struggle for control of the
00:55:06.660 decision-making powers of the society uh it does not do that that is how people work this is like
00:55:13.100 this is like saying that newton invented gravity
00:55:16.520 uh uh um yeah this is like uh uh sorry all of a sudden i can't remember a guy who set up the bomb
00:55:32.440 uh anyway uh this is like saying that you know newton invented gravity and that that you know because he
00:55:40.180 correctly observed uh uh the uh way in which gravity works he and thank you oppenheimer thank
00:55:47.020 you finally uh yeah that that that somehow uh oppenheimer created like because he correctly
00:55:53.000 understood how nuclear energy works uh and and how to and how to make bombs out of it therefore
00:55:58.920 he created that property of physics that is not true he simply observed the way that politics works
00:56:05.680 uh schmidt who's been called the crown jews of the third reich argued with a political community's
00:56:10.220 ability to govern or indeed survive at all depending on the powerful executive wielding the power of the
00:56:14.320 state against those who oppose the people's interests yes he did uh so did thomas hobbs and why didn't
00:56:20.520 you mention thomas hobbs as a scary influence on the new right oh because he's considered a classical
00:56:25.900 liberal like carl schmidt is just drawing from thomas hobbs so why aren't you talking about the
00:56:32.900 scariness of thomas hobbs because you just want to call people nazis because if you just said oh
00:56:37.680 the new right is drawing on thomas hobbs that wouldn't sound as scary so this has nothing to do with
00:56:42.900 actually being worried about the intellectual caliber of the arguments or it's just saying nazi nazi nazi
00:56:48.800 that's all that all reason is doing and of course in this environment we know what calling people
00:56:53.680 as a nazi calling someone a nazi does it marks them for death so reason magazine is just a
00:56:59.600 is just the centrist hand of what antifa here we're gonna go labeling all these people
00:57:06.600 uh as nazis so that we can get them killed is that the plan thanks guys um liberalism uh be it
00:57:15.340 classical or modern challenges such uh manichaean distinctions and uh restricted the ability a
00:57:21.660 political community to govern by uh centralized decree schmidt saw uh right-based individualism
00:57:27.340 a preference for private uh over public decision making and a uh legal order rooted in universal
00:57:33.560 rules as source uh as sources of paralysis that impeded decisive action all right they complained
00:57:40.140 some more about how bad carl schmidt is let's get down to where ah here we go all right one of the more
00:57:46.800 vocal neo schmidians oh a neo schmidian he means a neo nazi they're trying to call me a nazi they're
00:57:52.820 trying to get me hurt they want they want people like antifa to hurt me that's what reason magazine
00:57:58.160 is trying to do they're trying to side with people who want to get us killed uh one of the more vocal
00:58:03.680 neo schmidians is oran mcintyre podcaster and writer for the blaze and the internet popularizer of
00:58:09.240 post-liberalism mcintyre has a long time affinity for schmidt uh no i just know that uh he's one of the
00:58:16.120 critical political theorists that you have to talk about do i have an affinity for machiavelli who i talk
00:58:20.620 about all the time bertrand de juvenal joseph de maestra aristotle alistair mcintyre why didn't
00:58:28.120 you list any of those names reason magazine oh because you're liars you're liars who are just
00:58:33.160 trying to smear people and get them killed that's why you didn't list any of the other thinkers that i
00:58:39.200 go out in far more detail to discuss couldn't be bothered only talked about schmidt i wonder why
00:58:45.760 uh describing the friend of the distinction as the true essence of the political in his 2024 book
00:58:51.960 the total state he denounces classical liberal the classical liberal conception of democracy
00:58:56.920 as america's founding myth and turns to schmidt as the antidote no i don't that's a lie yet again
00:59:03.180 i do not turn to schmidt as an antidote in fact i specifically decry him as an antidote i say he has
00:59:10.620 a correct assessment of certain aspects of politics but i in no way embrace his solutions to this
00:59:16.300 problem the solutions that i embrace are aristotelian or you know from bertrand de juvenal
00:59:22.500 that's where my solutions come from or the federalist papers they do not come from carl schmidt
00:59:29.880 in the book i specifically denounce fascism i specifically denounce totalitarianism
00:59:35.900 but they don't do anything they don't mention any of that because they're liars and they want to
00:59:41.260 get people killed they are in lockstep with jimmy kimmel they are in lockstep with eric swalwell
00:59:48.980 they are in lockstep with antifa they are lying and trying to get people killed
00:59:53.700 although he brushes aside schmidt's nazi affiliation as deeply unfortunate yeah you mean i denounce it
01:00:02.380 which what you mean is i directly denounce his nazism seems like a pretty big detail that you
01:00:09.800 might want to focus on but no that's not what this piece is for this is a leftist guilt by association
01:00:16.080 piece you've got intellectual cooties you read something naughty and so you should be hurt
01:00:21.880 in the wake of kirk's assassination mcintyre's podcast has transformed into a full-fledged schmidt
01:00:27.560 show um no i think i might have mentioned carl schmidt like once
01:00:33.960 but okay example of the friend of the distinctions abound mcintyre said on september 19th that the
01:00:42.140 companies like discord need to pay a severe price for going out of their way to allow an organization
01:00:46.820 of terrorist networks on their platform uh yeah
01:00:50.200 you shouldn't allow them to like allow people to organize murdering people is is reason pro
01:00:59.360 the organization of terrorism okay is re is reason magazine coming out and defending the right of
01:01:08.420 people to organize the murder of charlie kirk because it sounds like reason magazine is coming
01:01:14.000 out and encouraging people to allow for the organization of terrorism to murder people like
01:01:20.800 charlie kirk uh let's see uh they talk about law saying that yeah social media platforms aren't
01:01:29.060 responsible yes i understand uh supreme court precedent notwithstanding mcintyre insists that
01:01:34.320 actions needed to be taken too many people are dead yes you can't just let them kill people
01:01:41.780 i know you're libertarians i know you're worthless but like you're really gonna just let people murder
01:01:48.480 your friends and family that's the plan in the name of like corporations not having to stop people
01:01:56.960 from planning murders we don't have time to hesitate it's just my my words i guess uh so i don't i'm not
01:02:03.280 gonna read my words uh despite this ominous remark uh what oh what was the i'll go with their their
01:02:10.160 emphasis here the italics and that's going to take some stuff that might make you queasy yes i also
01:02:15.800 said it could all be done under the color of law so i made very clear that everything should be done
01:02:20.080 legally i think that kind of matters right you should take legal action to stop murders even if
01:02:26.880 it makes people uncomfortable yes squishes like uh squishes like uh reason don't want us to defend
01:02:33.160 our families in fact it sounds like they want to send people to hurt our families so yeah i think we
01:02:38.840 should actually stop people from killing our families but thank you reason magazine for letting
01:02:42.740 us know that libertarian is libertarianism is a suicidal ideology uh despite this ominous remark
01:02:48.900 mcintyre says he has plenty of principles which include taking care of his country and his family
01:02:53.540 and his community and his faith yeah those are my principles uh to defend these principles mcintyre
01:03:00.480 says we're going to need to make sure that the left knows that there's a cost for what they've done
01:03:04.080 yes you can't just keep murdering people thousands of people need to go to jail and they need to be
01:03:08.820 bankrupted yes you can't run antifa cells you can't plan to murder charlie kirk you can't plan
01:03:14.640 to murder ice agents you can't bring your guns and homemade explosives to a riot you can't you can't
01:03:21.220 assault a police officers sorry reason magazine i know you're in favor of all this stuff i have the
01:03:26.520 radical position of not being in favor of it unless mcintyre believes in punishing innocent for
01:03:32.920 crimes they did not commit he's promoting the subversion of principles uh to main principles
01:03:36.700 so this is a lie again reason magazine is lying directly i say in the very video that they are
01:03:42.140 talking about we should only go after people for crimes they have committed that it's illegal and
01:03:47.940 we should go after people who are legal so reason magazine is just lying they're just telling a bald
01:03:52.320 face lie hoping that their audience is too stupid to know what they're saying like if you just watch
01:03:58.000 the video i say very clearly you should not go after anyone like just randomly you should go after
01:04:03.180 people who have committed crimes and these things are crimes criminal conspiracy to commit murder is
01:04:08.060 a crime assaulting officers is a crime funding people who are about to do terrorism is a crime
01:04:15.200 i just want the law to be enforced but they say oh you're going after innocent people
01:04:19.660 he compounds uh this illogic with the fallacy of misplaced uh concreteness the left didn't kill
01:04:27.280 charlie kirk and evil gunman did uh you know here's the funny thing uh it turns out antifa is just an
01:04:33.000 idea to reason to turns out antifa is not real guys and we haven't seen multiple leftist uh commentators
01:04:41.740 openly supporting them cheering them on funding them it's not the left guys it's not real
01:04:48.180 it's it's just that libertarians are just leftists they're not anything different they're just
01:04:55.740 they're just leftists that's it they're just leftists who are pushing a leftist agenda you
01:05:00.740 could have put this thing in mother jones and it would have sounded exactly the same reason magazine
01:05:05.940 is just another leftist commie rag that's it oh they here's the beautiful part they finally have
01:05:14.200 to admit that i like didn't say most of the stuff that they just said and they have to put it in like
01:05:17.780 uh they put it in like parentheses here for some reason mcintyre does caveat his remarks by saying
01:05:23.920 there's nothing that president trump can't do under the law that he needs to get done right now so they
01:05:28.600 lied in the sentence before and then they put the fact that they lied in like parentheses like they
01:05:36.800 openly lied about what i said and then in the next thing they're like well he he caveated the remark
01:05:42.300 by actually saying exactly what we said he didn't say but this is cold comfort because the law can be
01:05:47.460 used to to use to excuse moral atrocities schmidt was after all a legal theorist so again they they're
01:05:53.980 just lying directly and then being like well but uh he read carl schmidt sometimes so uh probably
01:05:59.320 doesn't mean it you know just complete lies it's it's unclear to whom the specific plural third person
01:06:06.020 extends and that's the point mcintyre intends to create a us versus them paradigm that subverts
01:06:10.200 american mortal uh moral order and mutual respect and reciprocity recognition of rights no i think
01:06:16.240 it was the bullet going through charlie's kirk charlie kirk's net that did that i think the
01:06:20.680 bullet that hit donald trump's ear that did that actually i think the people shooting at us are the
01:06:25.340 ones subverting the moral paradigm and creating an us versus them mentality i think the people who
01:06:30.520 were cheering for charlie kirk's death were creating a us versus them mentality did reason magazine run
01:06:36.440 any articles on that did i miss that one oh that's right because they're just leftists they're just
01:06:42.980 leftists uh let's see here uh replacing with friend enemy uh this is not uh idle speculation the day
01:06:51.580 after charlie kirk's assassination posted uh mcintyre posted the the specific political distinction to
01:06:56.900 which every political action and motive can be reduced is friend enemy and a liked comment on the
01:07:01.920 affirmation video uh ominously leads friend enemy distinction time uh yeah so we're noticing that
01:07:08.380 uh people are trying to kill us and that means that they're an enemy like if antifa tries to murder you
01:07:15.040 they're probably not your friend i feel pretty comfortable saying that people who are trying to
01:07:21.160 kill us are not our friends but okay they go on just uh to talk about how uh curtis yarvin is really
01:07:29.300 scary and i talk about him uh that daryl cooper uh is is is uh very scary and i've talked to him
01:07:36.580 actually it's funny they say that uh daryl cooper uh is also a schmidtian is a committed schmidtian i
01:07:43.100 don't think i've ever heard daryl cooper discuss carl schmidt at all like i'm sure he's probably said
01:07:47.740 at some point that you know something like the friend enemy distinction but i've never seen daryl cooper
01:07:52.680 like go in on at any length about uh this so again just complete lies complete lies they there's
01:07:58.220 nothing but a smear job so you get the idea that guys this is this is where uh this is the state of
01:08:03.940 libertarians again i know there's some good ones out there god bless you uh but um maybe maybe we can
01:08:09.640 maybe you guys can finally just separate yourselves from these absolute uh garbage uh people uh maybe it's
01:08:15.620 time to to stop siding in any way with these people all right to the questions of the people
01:08:23.460 here today uh chan the man says uh not saying it's the motive but i've seen regular anti-mormon stuff
01:08:29.860 from the left prior to this especially ex-members of uh uh ex-jehovah uh slash christians irl too
01:08:37.240 yeah i'm sure there are a lot of leftists who hate uh mormons that would uh be of no surprise here
01:08:42.100 but again i don't know for sure uh there's already plenty of legitimate leftist violence that we can
01:08:47.160 easily tie to them i don't want to muddy the waters by tying things i can't prove so i want to stick to
01:08:52.040 the good examples so that when you make this argument to people who might be on the fence you can show
01:08:56.600 them all the very uh obvious and direct examples rather than uh throw things out there that you might
01:09:02.380 not know but of course it's very it's entirely possible that you're correct thirstworm says very
01:09:07.960 funny seeing so many of the reason guys being up on uh of an honors over uh after october 7th
01:09:14.080 literally raving nationalists about another country not america though i mean this was walter block
01:09:18.720 right like one of the most famous libertarians at all but all of a sudden he's a statist only for
01:09:23.020 israel i mean so yeah this is a theme throughout much of of uh uh certain parts uh there are of course
01:09:30.400 many parts of the libertarian movement that are not fans of israel uh but all of the beltway
01:09:34.660 mainstream reason magazine types tend to be yeah
01:09:37.380 uh thirstworm says anti-mormon documentaries are very popular among lefties and uh not right now
01:09:46.920 women i date have encyclopedic knowledge of mormon scandals somehow uh well first stop dating those
01:09:52.600 women but also yeah entirely possible again uh i don't i don't know i don't know enough about like
01:09:58.760 mormons and scandals that come out around mormons and and anything like that i'm just completely
01:10:04.100 uninformed uh so i'm not gonna like speculate on any of that but i would i would believe you
01:10:08.940 entirely that leftists hate mormons that would not be a shock to me at all again um you can debate
01:10:14.000 christianity and its extent uh but they certainly are coded as christians for the left they hate they
01:10:19.780 hate mormons just the same as they hate any other christian uh zero the hero says libertarians
01:10:25.800 fundamental flaw is not realizing nations are compromised of uh compromised of social connections
01:10:31.300 there is no nation until people form healthy bonds uh lots of the ideas uh decriminalizing drugs
01:10:37.240 destroy social cohesion yes libertarians uh fundamentally do not understand how to make a
01:10:42.060 functional civilization uh they they they kind of assume they start from the assumption that everyone
01:10:47.840 is a highly civilized 130 iq classical liberal and therefore they know how to operate in a society and
01:10:55.760 they don't need any kind of instruction or any kind of state or anything like that uh of course that's
01:11:00.680 not true uh so these these misunderstandings uh bad anthropology uh always leads to bad outcomes and
01:11:06.880 uh the libertarians are certainly in that camp jake is in del says owning a gun is level zero having
01:11:13.880 trusted friends who train with uh is what everyone should be focused on absolutely and you should be
01:11:19.600 buying uh digital radios with a es 256 trends transmission surplus motorolas p25s uh still out there all
01:11:29.320 right well there you go i guess radios that exist but yes you should most certainly be training with
01:11:34.460 friends find other people who have the same values as you and make sure that you guys are trading together
01:11:39.840 uh the tiny stupid demon says like jesse kelly i wanted uh an edit of that woman on the video
01:11:46.100 screaming as my phone ringtone yeah there is a there is a certain uh level of schadenfreude that just
01:11:52.200 oozes out of that tree kerper weirdo says apes together strong that is all yes always be chimping
01:11:59.640 uh matt greener says really trying not to black peel so i appreciate you highlighting the wins
01:12:04.580 but pam bondi cash patella christy gnome really make it difficult they don't have the right instincts
01:12:08.680 this is obviously true i've already called for the placement of pam bondi unfortunately that's about
01:12:12.840 as much as i can do uh but yeah it doesn't seem like we are uh have our most effective troops in those
01:12:18.280 positions i sure would appreciate it if we did um titus stupid demon says uh how at this point
01:12:26.080 in time are there still libertarians don't bother answering that i won't bother but thank you we're
01:12:30.580 all wondering it uh ruler of the donut says orin thank you for not being one of many nasty ghouls who
01:12:36.640 say this is bad uh but mormons are aren't fascist i mean are not christians yeah again uh that that's a
01:12:43.460 debate for another time i i you know i have my issues with doctrine uh but ultimately uh these
01:12:50.000 are people who are as far as i can tell very good people uh are often aligned with us uh and and like
01:12:56.640 i said they are christian enough they are coded christian enough to receive uh violence and hatred
01:13:01.300 from the left so uh you know it it's best not you know there are plenty of catholics who think that i am
01:13:07.260 not christian and won't go to heaven because i uh i'm not part of the catholic church um i hear this
01:13:13.400 from them on all the time whatever i disagree now is not the time uh at the moment if someone shoots
01:13:19.000 up a catholic church i'm going to defend catholics if someone shoots up a mormon church i'm going to
01:13:22.980 defend mormons we can hash the details out later we have uh an existential uh fight against an enemy
01:13:29.020 who wants to destroy us so uh yeah it inside the friend coalition that's right i said it
01:13:33.540 matt gradier says uh telling uh telling that nanya who feels that uh the need to talk to elon about
01:13:41.920 x the only social media website where the you basically have universal unrestricted free speech
01:13:47.400 yeah and even there not always but yeah it is certainly clear that the israeli government is
01:13:51.840 very worried about the fact that people can speak freely on twitter uh because the head of the
01:13:56.880 israeli government just said it out loud uh enrico palazzo says this is uh disgusting rote white
01:14:02.700 this is disgusting woke right propaganda that's what i hear uh creeper weirdo says what does it
01:14:09.060 say that a lot of us uh had a libertarian phase before becoming more right wing also the libertarian
01:14:15.460 party is a joke well okay so this is you know people will ask me all the time why do you talk
01:14:19.080 to so many libertarians why are you talking to dave smith why are you bringing tom woods on the show
01:14:23.120 why are you talking uh you know to to all these different uh libertarians and the answer is uh because
01:14:28.740 they're just like one step away from being on our team guys like we've all seen the the the libertarian
01:14:34.300 to right wing pipeline i mean you know a lot of us were libertarians at some level and then we you
01:14:40.080 know got older and we figured it out so yeah there there's a reason that i talk to these people uh
01:14:45.120 because they're so close to getting it and the only thing that's that's stopping them is this like
01:14:49.060 ideological obsession and if you can just break them about obsession then look it's like it's like dave the
01:14:54.400 distributors talking to leftists right like i i feel the need to speak with libertarians and try
01:14:59.660 to bring them to the other side i feel like that's a duty that i have so i try my best thirstworm says
01:15:05.900 notice how netanyahu will never go against the adl for labeling his good friend charlie kirk and his
01:15:11.420 organization as extremists hmm yeah this is this is a game that gets played a lot unfortunately uh it's
01:15:20.180 oh uh you know uh this organization we don't agree with everything they say well we denounce them
01:15:26.480 well no you know they're they're sure they're attacking uh you know people who who theoretically
01:15:32.680 supported us they're demonizing them but uh we kind of like what they're doing so we'll just kind of
01:15:37.780 turn a blind eye to that uh everyone can kind of see that like everyone everyone knows what you're
01:15:42.540 doing there florida henry says what would be the legality of organizing making citizens arrests of
01:15:49.300 antifa antifa force the issue so i would encourage you not to take that action yet because we are
01:15:54.900 seeing the trump administration start to take action in the streets okay um i do not uh i do not
01:16:00.760 advise you to go out and do battle with antifa okay we've seen how that goes and unfortunately
01:16:06.180 in many places they just end up arresting all the right wingers remember the proud boys guys
01:16:10.560 that is basically what that was for right so we're not going out and and challenging antifa in street
01:16:16.080 level politics we have at least in theory control of the government and the government should be the
01:16:20.700 ones stopping this however you do need to be prepared for the the fact that antifa is out there
01:16:25.800 and may try to hurt you and yours so you should be armed you should be ready you should be prepared
01:16:31.320 you should be training with people in case you need them but right now i would not advise going
01:16:36.560 out in groups and picking fights with antifa and try to make citizens arrests we are starting to
01:16:40.860 see the trump administration take action we should encourage them to take more action when we see a
01:16:44.960 response after we demand a response we should say good more okay that's what it should be great job
01:16:52.020 now do more of it that should be our first response if ultimately the government does nothing well that's
01:16:57.960 a different scenario but we're not there yet so let's work within again the color of the law to get
01:17:02.620 these things done no matter what reason magazine says i have done nothing but advocate for legal action
01:17:08.900 so they can slander me they can libel me whatever uh but that's the truth
01:17:14.960 no guard says razor fist has been pushing this idea recently as well uh if the american political
01:17:22.960 spectrum today stretches from hamilton to jefferson um i'm not quite sure i mean obviously hamilton and
01:17:32.180 jefferson uh had wildly different views so saying that when people say just the founders uh they they're
01:17:38.900 they're kind of ignoring the fact that these people have very different ideas for what the founding
01:17:42.760 would look like i mean they're still within a certain realm like they're not complete they are american
01:17:47.420 at some level but there are two definitive branches at least of american uh of americanism that exist at
01:17:54.520 the kind of the core of the founding of of the uh republic so uh if that's what you're talking about
01:18:00.500 there then yes i would agree with that andrew guler says how often does the adl get sued for libel or
01:18:08.820 defamation uh well they're famously stocked up with uh tons of lawyers so not very often i imagine
01:18:14.000 because it's very difficult to do so but yes they absolutely should be if that is what they are
01:18:19.260 doing and it's pretty clear that is what they are doing mostly peaceful merch says it's dumb to
01:18:24.660 moderate to moderate to try to please hyphenated americans or hyphenated christians you're still in
01:18:30.440 the out group and no compromise will change that fair enough but that doesn't mean you shouldn't speak
01:18:34.980 the truth right like i i'm with you like don't don't don't try to don't try to change core beliefs
01:18:44.180 or core principles or core uh uh loyalties to please people who hate you or are never going to be on
01:18:51.620 your side i agree with that but that doesn't mean then you just need to choose the most radical thing
01:18:55.940 that they oppose right this is this is the the problem when you go all the way and you're like well
01:19:00.360 the left hates nazis so i'll just be a nazi no that's dumb that's dumb you're not a nazi because
01:19:05.740 the left calls you a nazi or wants you to be a nazi that's stupid don't take the frame of your enemy
01:19:09.760 pick up the actual beliefs you have they might call those nazi too they probably will in fact they
01:19:15.460 definitely will even reason magazine will call them nazi because they're liars who're trying to get
01:19:19.960 people murdered but but ultimately you should believe what you actually believe what your real
01:19:27.180 tradition and values draw you to which your religion teaches you what your family believe
01:19:31.720 what your ancestors believe that is what you should believe those are the principles you should hold
01:19:35.860 not because not because they make the left angry it's not about it's not about making the left rage
01:19:41.360 it's about returning to a true belief system not the one that's been handed to you
01:19:45.560 life of brian says uh l friendly and friend enemy uh derives directly from the sabbath being for man
01:19:57.340 if the civil society takes priority over process it follows that there are conditions uh where process must
01:20:05.460 defer to preservation yeah i agree ultimately uh you you you if the the the the principles are there
01:20:13.420 to make society better the society is not there uh just to uphold the principle you should in general
01:20:19.660 uphold the principle that's is the reason it's a principle is because it's what works for your
01:20:23.020 society most of the time and is good right that is a good thing but ultimately uh if there is some
01:20:29.240 crack in the civil order uh then you of course need to fix that uh and and if that's uh you need to
01:20:35.740 take action to resolve that problem because it will ultimately benefit the wider civil order then yes
01:20:40.400 ultimately that that is true enrico palazzo says chase oliver is representative of the gaping hole
01:20:46.720 of the modern libertarian party yeah i think you've said everything that needs to be said there
01:20:51.340 a life of brian says the fact that reason uh types play strict friend and me for israel is just further
01:20:56.840 proof there's always the schmidtian exception uh uh the question is where again i don't know it's
01:21:03.060 unlike i pay enough attention to reason to know where they've been on israel many of you are saying
01:21:07.180 that they have been very uh pro israel in um con contrast to their other beliefs uh i i'm willing
01:21:14.740 to believe that but i just don't know i can't cite those articles right away so i i'm not gonna like
01:21:19.340 just go full bore on that not knowing uh you know where the truth lies there though i i would entirely
01:21:25.220 believe you're correct about that cb says liberal fascism equals leftist because it is a collective
01:21:32.140 totalitarianism characterized by symbolic relationship of the people with a leader embodying
01:21:37.100 the popular will why you guys hate uh i mean that's not even really uh what fascism is but i
01:21:43.480 hear you uh uh freelancer you says libertarians are too cowardly and subversive to truly be right
01:21:51.100 wing it's also uh it's it's as close as they're willing to go without crossing over again yep generally
01:21:56.900 agree with that i think that's that's generally true again there are good libertarians out there just
01:22:00.900 want to caveat that i have them on my show uh but as a general rule i think that that's a fair
01:22:05.180 characterization of the mainstream libertarian position all right guys we're gonna go ahead
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