The Auron MacIntyre Show - The Total State Convicts Donald Trump ｜ 5⧸31⧸24

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00:00:30.000 Hey everybody, how's it going?

00:00:32.200 Thanks for joining me this afternoon.

00:00:34.560 I am Oren McIntyre.

00:00:37.400 So, you might have heard there's a little bit of news yesterday.

00:00:40.020 Something important happened.

00:00:42.240 A little bit of a shift in the electoral landscape in the United States of America.

00:00:48.220 Obviously, you guys already know that Donald Trump has been convicted in New York.

00:00:53.540 I'm going to dive into what happened, what the consequences of this are going to be,

00:00:58.320 how we should understand this from a power politics perspective, and what the choices are going forward.

00:01:04.020 Because obviously, this is an unprecedented event.

00:01:07.740 This is one of those moments that shapes a nation.

00:01:11.780 We are definitely standing in the middle of history.

00:01:14.660 There's really no other way to put that.

00:01:17.360 History is happening.

00:01:18.580 The nothing ever happens gang is wrong.

00:01:21.600 History is not over.

00:01:23.320 We are living through it right now.

00:01:25.200 This is a massive event.

00:01:26.360 This is a seismic shift.

00:01:28.040 We'll dive into all that, guys.

00:01:29.440 But before we do, really quick, just to remind you, of course, that it is election season.

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00:02:20.540 All right, guys.

00:02:21.360 Let's go ahead and dive into the meat of this today.

00:02:24.380 So, again, as you might have heard, Donald Trump has been convicted.

00:02:30.480 I believe it's 34 counts, felony counts.

00:02:34.220 Now, there's a lot of questions, of course, going forward.

00:02:37.520 Let's go ahead and clear some things up first.

00:02:40.020 There's a lot of people who are unfamiliar with the requirements in the American Constitution

00:02:45.600 when it comes to being president and the restrictions on who can run.

00:02:49.820 So to be clear, in the Constitution, there are only a few things that can restrict you from running for president.

00:02:56.880 First, you need to be 35 years old or older. 0.80

00:03:00.160 You need to be a natural-born citizen.

00:03:02.480 You cannot have been naturalized as a citizen in the United States.

00:03:05.800 And you must be a resident for 14 years.

00:03:07.720 So that means you can, for instance, be born here, go live in Japan for 20 years. 0.86

00:03:12.560 But if you move back and try to run for office, you need to be here for another 14 years.

00:03:18.560 You need to establish residency for 14 years before you can run.

00:03:21.960 You can't just live your entire life somewhere else, move back a year later, and then suddenly run for office at 36,

00:03:27.680 even if you were a natural-born citizen.

00:03:30.020 The only other restrictions when it comes to whether or not you can run for president

00:03:33.980 is if you have served two terms as president.

00:03:36.920 That was added after FDR and his four terms of president.

00:03:42.060 Or if you have been impeached and removed from office,

00:03:46.680 which obviously Donald Trump did have articles of impeachment filed against him twice,

00:03:51.660 but who's never removed, and therefore he's still eligible to run.

00:03:55.400 That means that, of course, Donald Trump is in no way prevented from running for president.

00:04:00.860 He can continue to run for president.

00:04:04.400 He can win from a jail cell.

00:04:06.440 If they lock him up and throw away the key,

00:04:09.440 he can go ahead and continue to run and possibly win the presidency.

00:04:14.300 So nothing about what has happened here technically keeps him from running for office.

00:04:19.600 That's actually why they kept pushing the language of insurrection.

00:04:23.340 That language was carefully chosen by the media.

00:04:27.380 They wanted to make sure that they did have a legal way to stop him from running.

00:04:30.940 And the clause in the 14th Amendment that prevents insurrectionists from running

00:04:35.360 was originally put there because it was a Civil War amendment.

00:04:38.860 They wanted to make sure that people who are actively involved in insurrection, I guess,

00:04:45.660 could not go ahead and be an official, but that doesn't stick for a lot of reasons.

00:04:52.340 I'm not going to dive into all of that today.

00:04:53.880 There's a lot of technical reasons, and just that doesn't work here.

00:04:57.760 But obviously, Donald Trump has not been convicted of insurrection.

00:05:01.500 You'll notice that that was nowhere in any of the charges.

00:05:04.380 In fact, it's very difficult for people to understand how Donald Trump was even charged in this case.

00:05:10.140 And so the 14th Amendment most certainly does not apply here.

00:05:13.320 That's why they failed at the Supreme Court level to go ahead and strike Trump off the ballots in multiple states

00:05:20.280 because ultimately they decided that the states cannot decide how the 14th Amendment will be applied,

00:05:26.760 whether or not they can adjudicate the definition of insurrection of the 14th Amendment.

00:05:30.960 They cannot. The Supreme Court blocked them from doing that.

00:05:33.180 So they've already tried multiple ways to keep Trump from running for president.

00:05:37.820 And while this one is certainly designed to hurt his chances,

00:05:41.200 it does not legally disqualify him for running for president.

00:05:44.820 So let's just get that out of the way right away.

00:05:47.640 All right. So the next thing I want to talk about is the actual conviction itself.

00:05:51.240 Now, obviously, the charges against Donald Trump are fallacious.

00:05:56.740 It is a novel application of a law designed to punish local elections.

00:06:03.180 To punish bad behavior in local elections.

00:06:08.420 It has not been applied to federal elections.

00:06:11.060 That was not what the law is intended to do.

00:06:14.280 It's very clear that Alvin Bragg ran on the idea that he would be able to destroy Trump.

00:06:21.280 That was also the intention of Letitia James, the attorney general of New York.

00:06:26.560 And so what you have is multiple elected officials who ran on a platform of disqualifying Donald Trump from the presidency.

00:06:37.760 And they obviously did exactly that.

00:06:40.720 They delivered. Look at Democrats delivering on their campaign promises.

00:06:43.680 Must be nice.

00:06:44.300 Must be nice to vote for a political party that actually follows through, no matter how destructive those policies are.

00:06:51.420 And so what we see here is obviously a jury that was designed to go ahead and convict Trump with a set of laws that are not really supposed to be applied to Trump in this scenario and create a large amount of charges to go ahead and try to make it very difficult for him to run for president.

00:07:11.700 Still, you know, no legal bar here.

00:07:13.860 He's still allowed to stay on the ballot and people can vote for him.

00:07:16.440 And if enough people vote for him and the votes are counted correctly, that's really important part of that.

00:07:21.700 Then he can become president.

00:07:22.920 But obviously that was the design here.

00:07:25.180 Now, a couple of things here.

00:07:27.200 First, a little bit of, you know.

00:07:30.800 I told you so.

00:07:34.140 I'm not saying that with any kind of joy.

00:07:36.860 I don't I didn't want this outcome.

00:07:38.780 This is not what I had hoped.

00:07:41.500 This is not what I want for my country.

00:07:42.960 I love my country.

00:07:43.740 And the fact that the people running the country are willing to do this to us is horrific.

00:07:49.820 But it was also predictable.

00:07:51.700 This is what I thought we were going to see.

00:07:54.540 And this is what I predicted we would see.

00:07:57.520 And now we are here.

00:07:58.820 And I have been told repeatedly by many people, very responsible conservatives, very upstanding conservatives, respected conservatives, that my use of things like the friend enemy distinction, that my understanding and pointing out things like the constitutional order is over.

00:08:19.080 That rule of law is over and we are in the realm of pure Machiavellian politics at this point, that that was super dangerous, that we weren't allowed to talk about that.

00:08:30.580 We weren't allowed to notice that the most dangerous thing was not that we were being threatened with a knife.

00:08:35.040 The most dangerous thing is noticing that we were being threatened with a knife.

00:08:39.800 It's the most dangerous part was not that we were in a knife fight and we need to figure out how to fight back.

00:08:44.340 The most important thing was not to notice the knife.

00:08:47.300 I've been told this over and over again, that if we just didn't notice what the Democrats were doing, we just didn't notice what had been done to the United States.

00:08:56.240 If we just didn't pay attention, if we hit our heads in the sand and we talked about principles, then eventually the Democrats would stop doing this.

00:09:04.180 It would all go away.

00:09:05.040 We could all go back to the way things used to be.

00:09:08.080 But I knew that wasn't going to be the case.

00:09:09.700 And I've told this to any and everyone who would listen, including my buddy, academic agent, who himself is a student of lead theory.

00:09:17.460 He's very aware of how power works.

00:09:19.980 But ultimately, he believed that the elites had enough self-discipline to realize that if they tore that last little shred of social fabric, if they burned that last little bit of social fabric, if they destroyed the last fig leaf of rule of law and constitutional order away,

00:09:38.600 that they would be completely throwing the stability of their regime into chaos, he believed that they were competent enough to hold themselves back.

00:09:49.540 But I knew they weren't.

00:09:50.800 I knew they weren't.

00:09:51.720 I knew I know who these people are.

00:09:53.800 I look them in the eyes.

00:09:55.080 I understand where they were going.

00:09:57.900 And what they have done was inevitable.

00:10:00.040 They were always going to go this direction.

00:10:02.080 They cannot help themselves.

00:10:03.780 And the reason they can't help themselves is they really believe what they're saying.

00:10:06.940 You have to understand that.

00:10:09.100 They truly believe that Trump is the next Hitler.

00:10:12.300 They really believe that.

00:10:13.440 They truly believe that he gets elected.

00:10:15.920 It's going to be, you know, concentration camps and gulags.

00:10:19.680 And they're all going like they 100% believe that.

00:10:22.800 And they believe that because that's what they want for you.

00:10:26.440 Because they understand how they use power.

00:10:28.580 And they know that if, and their greatest fear is if one day the right is in power, the right will do the same thing back.

00:10:36.380 That is their greatest fear.

00:10:37.600 And they see that in Donald Trump.

00:10:38.960 And they fear that in Donald Trump.

00:10:40.560 And that is why they are treating Trump the way that they are.

00:10:43.100 And that's why they believe that they have to do what they're doing.

00:10:46.280 They see this as a victory.

00:10:47.920 A lot of them see this as a victory.

00:10:50.660 Now, you can see a little bit of hesitation.

00:10:53.280 You can see a little bit of hesitation.

00:10:54.880 Because some of them realize they push things too far.

00:10:57.820 There are a few of them who have said, whoa.

00:11:00.120 Okay.

00:11:01.000 We're in some unprecedented territory.

00:11:03.860 We might have gone to a place that we can't come back from.

00:11:08.360 There are a few of them that are hesitantly starting to realize this.

00:11:11.580 But only after they've broken the seal.

00:11:13.260 Only after they've already unleashed the situation they're in.

00:11:17.920 And that's really what's happening.

00:11:20.400 So, yeah.

00:11:21.180 I spent a lot of time hearing about how dangerous it was.

00:11:24.480 You know, the James Lindseys of the world telling me how terrifying it was. 0.99

00:11:29.020 Oh, you can't be.

00:11:30.360 You're the woke right.

00:11:31.900 You can't talk about using power.

00:11:33.400 You can't talk about noticing the end of the liberal constitutional order.

00:11:38.740 We can't do any of that.

00:11:40.160 Even if it's real.

00:11:41.460 Because the scariest thing would be people who would actually realize what's going on.

00:11:46.640 Well, here we are.

00:11:47.920 Exactly where I expected us to be.

00:11:50.160 Okay.

00:11:50.980 And, you know.

00:11:53.800 Look.

00:11:54.520 You write a book called, you know, How Liberal Democracies Become Tyrannies.

00:11:59.860 And you know what's coming theoretically.

00:12:03.560 But it's another thing to see this play out.

00:12:06.120 I had hoped, ultimately, that these people would have the self-control necessary to pull back.

00:12:11.920 Okay.

00:12:12.180 But, obviously, they do not.

00:12:15.420 That, obviously, is not the case.

00:12:17.700 And so, we have to deal with the world that we're in and not the world that we want there to be.

00:12:23.340 And that's a shift that everybody needs to make today.

00:12:25.960 That's a shift that everybody has to make now.

00:12:29.480 You can pretend that, you know, forever, it's just, oh, we can't be the Democrats.

00:12:34.980 We can't lower ourselves to that level.

00:12:37.320 We have to believe in the principles of whatever.

00:12:39.960 Or, you can realize what time it is.

00:12:43.000 Those are your options.

00:12:44.100 There is no third option.

00:12:45.600 Okay.

00:12:46.940 So, one of the things that you probably want to think about is what happens with Trump after this conviction.

00:12:53.700 Now, a lot of people have, I think, rightly pointed out that Trump has many options here.

00:12:59.860 Some people are hoping that on appeal this gets tossed out.

00:13:03.340 Many people have pointed out that the appeals court that would hear this case is not one that seems demographically likely to favor Trump.

00:13:12.480 Let's hope that the law, some idea of objective law, still overrides party loyalty.

00:13:19.100 But I would not bet on it.

00:13:23.040 You also might have noticed that recently the Supreme Court has come under fire.

00:13:28.060 Right?

00:13:28.200 I just did a story yesterday, I just did my column this week, about the appeal to heaven flag and how they're attacking Alito and Thomas yet again.

00:13:36.900 And if that seems weirdly timed to you, if you were confused about why all of a sudden they were once again manufacturing the most ridiculous things possible to try to undermine the authority of the Supreme Court,

00:13:50.280 well, guess what?

00:13:51.000 Now you know.

00:13:52.360 Now you figured it out.

00:13:53.360 Now you know.

00:14:23.360 Now, will Trump go to jail?

00:14:26.220 I don't know, to be honest.

00:14:27.820 It would be very stupid for them to actually send Trump to jail.

00:14:31.620 That would be absolutely insane.

00:14:34.240 Even more insane than already convicting him.

00:14:36.800 But these people are insane.

00:14:39.100 So we can't rule anything else out.

00:14:41.200 If we had competent elites, they simply would have allowed Trump to get elected and then smother his second term in bureaucracy, much like they did the first.

00:14:53.360 And they would have let the Trump mania peter out and they would have moved on to Mitt Romney's or something again.

00:14:58.820 But we are not ruled by competent elites.

00:15:01.800 Even even evil.

00:15:03.740 Yeah, they're evil and incompetent.

00:15:06.340 They can't even be evil and competent.

00:15:08.500 We at least used to have people who were good at this, but they're not there anymore.

00:15:11.740 They've been replaced by the next generation of true believers and degenerated children who are completely unworthy of the legacy and the machine that they inherited.

00:15:23.360 They don't have the self-control necessary to stop themselves from just burning this all down.

00:15:29.080 They don't.

00:15:29.580 And you can see that from what they've already done.

00:15:31.880 So I'd like to believe that they're not stupid enough to actually put Donald Trump in jail.

00:15:35.660 But I can't really rule that out.

00:15:37.720 Either way, if they do put Donald Trump in jail, of course, again, he's not disqualified from running.

00:15:43.460 But that makes it pretty difficult to campaign.

00:15:45.540 It makes it pretty difficult to go ahead and do debates and things that Joe Biden has challenged him to.

00:15:53.020 Would be an amazing thing if Joe Biden mocked Donald Trump about not showing up to debates that he literally had him in prison to avoid.

00:16:00.120 I mean, it's comical.

00:16:01.700 We're so third world at this point.

00:16:03.500 We're so through the looking glass that we would make the most ridiculous parodies of a Soviet totalitarian state look like a joke.

00:16:14.140 Like that's where we're at at this point where there is no scenario off the table where, yeah, no, totally.

00:16:19.780 We could be in a scenario where the sitting president jails his opposition and then mocks them for not being able to show up to the debate because they locked him in prison.

00:16:30.160 We could literally be in that scenario.

00:16:33.180 We can't rule that out.

00:16:35.960 And so we're really in a position where we can't bet against the idea that Donald Trump will end up in jail, though I am, again, doubtful.

00:16:44.920 The crimes that he was charged with are already pretty thin, could went uphill.

00:16:51.060 Even if he is sentenced, the sentencing is likely to be suspended for some duration of the trial, or he could be basically given a slap on the wrist because ultimately the charges are so manufactured that they don't even carry a minimum penalty, I believe.

00:17:05.620 And so therefore it would it would be very easy for them to to go ahead and convict Trump, but not really punish him.

00:17:14.320 And ultimately, that's what a lot of these people wanted.

00:17:16.200 Right. They just wanted to be able to say the Republican Party has has nominated a convicted felon.

00:17:22.060 That's what they want for their base.

00:17:24.420 That's how insane these people are.

00:17:25.900 They thought that that would look good.

00:17:27.220 They thought that would be a good look.

00:17:29.600 And yeah, it'll get you a handshake and a high five at the MSNBC, you know, cocktail party.

00:17:36.120 But for the rest of the country, this is madness.

00:17:38.440 And I think even a lot of people who don't like Trump recognize this.

00:17:42.380 OK, a lot of people who don't like Trump recognize this.

00:17:46.780 And I think that's the next thing we need to talk about is like what comes next.

00:17:50.040 Right. Because.

00:17:51.040 I get it, Donald Trump is not worthy of a lot of the support that he's going to receive.

00:18:00.140 OK, he's not worthy of a lot of the report he's going to receive.

00:18:04.040 I think that ultimately Donald Trump has a lot of moral failings.

00:18:07.980 I think he probably did some of the things he's accused of, even though they shouldn't have been charged in the kind of crimes.

00:18:13.580 But I don't know. Maybe he didn't.

00:18:15.120 Ultimately, I have no idea.

00:18:16.840 I don't know the truth there, but I don't think ultimately Donald Trump deserves the kind of support.

00:18:21.040 that he's going to get, but he needs.

00:18:24.160 And he needs to get it from people who otherwise hate him.

00:18:28.860 I'm sorry, never Trump guys.

00:18:31.300 I'm sorry, DeSantis bros.

00:18:33.280 I like Ron DeSantis, too.

00:18:34.740 But we're in a scenario where this is this is the republic.

00:18:40.940 You know, if if you want to pretend, I mean, look, I think ultimately the Constitutional Republic has changed and warped irrevocably.

00:18:51.040 But this is the last vestige of that.

00:18:54.000 And if you're going to sit around and be like, well, but I really don't like his attitude, then you've lost your mind.

00:19:01.320 What are you doing?

00:19:02.300 This is a scenario where you can't sit there and pretend like this is an important.

00:19:09.480 And I see that because a lot of people are currently buying into the like, well, the election will fix this.

00:19:15.460 Right.

00:19:15.820 The response has been, oh, well, go ahead.

00:19:18.940 And I'm donating a bunch of money to Donald Trump's campaign as if that matters.

00:19:24.020 Oh, well, well, you know, he'll win in November as if that matters.

00:19:27.100 Look, guys, I also agree.

00:19:29.800 I think that ultimately him being convicted in this way actually increases his sympathy.

00:19:34.880 I think even with uncommitted voters and even a few people on the left that are like, I don't know, man, this is too far.

00:19:42.600 I think that this does increase the chances of, you know, his poll numbers support.

00:19:48.600 I think ultimately that does move things in his favor.

00:19:51.740 But if you just watch what happened in a courtroom and you actually watch what happened in 2020 and you think that a fair election is coming back, you have lost your mind.

00:20:03.480 Like, what are you talking about?

00:20:05.200 That is the most insane cope I have ever heard of in my life.

00:20:07.880 You think that these guys would manufacture charges that they would create out of whole cloth?

00:20:16.580 An application of the law with the explicit goal of keeping Donald Trump from running for president, that they would go out of their way to try to remove him from the ballot by making up some narrative about insurrection.

00:20:32.200 Especially after everything you saw in 2020.

00:20:34.100 And if you, again, if you need to go back and see evidence of what happened in 2020, read Molly Hemingway's excellent book, Rig, which doesn't come into, it doesn't make any kind of conspiracy theories.

00:20:44.620 It's not, you know, whether or not a bunch of votes got dumped somewhere at 3 a.m., that's not her argument.

00:20:50.800 Her argument is in a very provable and fundamental way.

00:20:53.820 There was an open air, you know, organization of different actors, what we would call a conspiracy, to keep Donald Trump from getting elected in 2020.

00:21:09.020 And she's got the receipts.

00:21:10.720 And it's not something, again, you don't have to be some wacky guy without, you know, you don't have to Alex Jones it with a tinfoil hat.

00:21:16.720 Though they had me on Infowars recently, so thanks, guys.

00:21:19.940 But you don't have to be that person to just acknowledge the obvious facts, the enumerated facts in a book like Molly Hemingway's.

00:21:29.020 Somebody who's a serious journalist or respected journalist, not some firebrand, somebody who's had a level head and a lot of credibility.

00:21:35.920 Can bring together and point out that, no, like, the 2020 election was absolutely one that was manipulated on a large scale by social media, by large Democratic donors, by a process that was completely corrupted intentionally from the top down.

00:21:52.180 And you really think that this is going to be a scenario where, like, it all just gets fixed in November?

00:21:59.020 I mean, that's insane.

00:22:01.620 Now, maybe, maybe, who knows?

00:22:03.040 Like, ultimately, maybe the votes for Trump will be so overwhelming.

00:22:07.300 Maybe he'll get, like, 70 or 80% of the vote.

00:22:09.620 I mean, that seems very unlikely.

00:22:11.720 But maybe, maybe that'll happen.

00:22:13.420 And if that does, that's great.

00:22:14.500 And it's so much that they can't possibly put their thumb on the scales.

00:22:18.140 Maybe that'll be the case.

00:22:19.380 It won't matter who's counting the ballots because they'll be drowning in Trump.

00:22:22.960 I'd like to believe that.

00:22:24.480 I really would.

00:22:26.000 That'd be fantastic.

00:22:27.820 But I don't, I don't, I don't think that's going to happen.

00:22:30.320 I don't think that's actually going to be the case.

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00:23:01.760 And so that means that other kinds of pushback need to come from Republicans.

00:23:09.660 And there doesn't need to be any excuse.

00:23:12.160 You know, a number of people said this.

00:23:14.320 Matt Walsh said this.

00:23:15.460 Sean Davis over at the Federalist said this.

00:23:18.940 And so I'm not the only one saying this, which is good.

00:23:22.360 You know, David Horowitz, also over the blaze, has said this.

00:23:24.780 And it needs to be clearly said by a lot more people.

00:23:28.860 There needs to be a complete pressure, a full court press on the GOP to go ahead and begin to take serious action.

00:23:37.840 You cannot have a balance of power in which one side says, whatever you do, no matter how you act, I'm never going to punish you.

00:23:48.660 But that's not how things work.

00:23:50.440 That's not how game theory works.

00:23:52.120 Hit for tat is the only thing that keeps things in alignment.

00:23:55.240 And by the way, that's what the Constitution says, too.

00:23:58.380 The checks and balances aren't magical.

00:24:00.760 The whole point of the checks and balances are that two sides will want things so badly that they will check each other.

00:24:06.920 But if one side is completely given up and the other side is going and doing anything and everything to win, then there is no deterrent.

00:24:15.280 The whole idea of the pendulum swinging back being the reason that you don't invest power into the government is that at some point the pendulum has to swing, which means you have to take action, which means you have to punish your political enemy.

00:24:29.460 If you are not doing that and the other side is, they will win and you will lose, period.

00:24:34.880 There is no third option.

00:24:36.840 There is no other option.

00:24:38.760 You can fight back and win.

00:24:40.920 You cannot fight back and lose.

00:24:43.160 There is no magical way where you retain your lofty principle of never doing anything with government power.

00:24:50.580 And somehow the Democrats just stop doing what they're doing.

00:24:53.240 It will not happen.

00:24:54.680 It will not happen.

00:24:56.820 That is not going to be the case.

00:24:59.180 Now, I want to be very clear.

00:25:01.040 All action needs to be taken through legal channels by officials.

00:25:05.160 Don't listen to anybody who's telling you to do something crazy.

00:25:07.720 Do not create another January 6th for these people.

00:25:10.680 Do not do it.

00:25:11.580 Keep a level head.

00:25:13.160 Stay cool.

00:25:14.380 Okay.

00:25:15.340 This is this.

00:25:16.380 This battle has to be fought through the official channels applying this pressure this way.

00:25:21.380 And what needs to happen is that the different prosecutors, AGs, and AGs, need to be spinning up cases against Democrats everywhere.

00:25:34.980 Everywhere.

00:25:36.160 Every GOP runs state.

00:25:38.600 Everywhere there's a Republican prosecutor.

00:25:40.380 Everywhere there's a Republican AG.

00:25:42.060 Every Republican executive needs to have a plan of what they're going to do next.

00:25:47.120 Corrupt Democrats need to go to jail.

00:25:48.560 Right now.

00:25:49.180 Right now.

00:25:50.220 There needs to be.

00:25:51.040 I don't want to see tweets from Republicans.

00:25:53.980 I don't want to hear about, oh, my Constitution.

00:25:57.900 That time is over.

00:25:59.920 The time of action has come.

00:26:02.700 I want to see names, lists of names of people who are going to jail because they are corrupt.

00:26:10.300 And you don't have to make stuff up.

00:26:11.640 There are plenty of corrupt Democrats who Republicans have closed eyes to because ultimately we try not to punish our enemies.

00:26:19.320 We try not to set a bad precedent.

00:26:21.540 Now it's time to do that.

00:26:22.980 People like Ilhan Omar, who have obviously committed fraud, should be going to jail.

00:26:32.160 People who have obviously violated the law need to be going to jail right now.

00:26:37.380 You need to be making cases.

00:26:39.120 You need to be punishing political enemies.

00:26:41.240 If you're a member of the Democratic Party and you supported this action against Donald Trump and you have one hair out of place, you need to go to jail.

00:26:50.160 If you have made one mistake that a prosecutor can go ahead and push you on, you need to go to jail.

00:26:56.940 And it's not just that.

00:26:58.620 Republican governors need to start enforcing border law immediately.

00:27:02.920 Immigration law needs to be enforced everywhere now.

00:27:05.800 Ron DeSantis, Greg Abbott, I'm looking at you.

00:27:08.140 Make it happen right now.

00:27:12.140 Deport people.

00:27:13.700 Close the border immediately.

00:27:16.500 If there's an illegal immigrant and they're caught, they go home. 0.58

00:27:20.720 Figure it out.

00:27:21.920 Work it out.

00:27:22.840 I don't care.

00:27:23.720 I don't care about the red tape.

00:27:25.120 I don't care about the excuses.

00:27:26.640 You do it immediately.

00:27:28.580 You close the border.

00:27:29.900 You deport illegal immigrants. 0.71

00:27:31.540 You do it right now.

00:27:34.180 No more excuses from the Republican Party.

00:27:36.500 You stop funding foreign wars.

00:27:40.120 You stop funding the government.

00:27:41.700 You shut it down.

00:27:44.000 Every way you can apply political pressure.

00:27:47.400 Do it immediately.

00:27:49.020 It has to get done.

00:27:51.600 You have to make them feel something for this.

00:27:54.100 You can't just sit around and wait for the next process to take care of this problem.

00:27:59.040 Action needs to be taken.

00:28:00.300 Legal action.

00:28:03.040 Action through official channels.

00:28:05.100 But action designed specifically to punish political enemies who are punishing you.

00:28:11.760 They are not going to stop with Donald Trump.

00:28:14.080 And you can't avoid this.

00:28:16.320 Look, a lot of people wanted to go ahead and nominate DeSantis to avoid this.

00:28:21.120 I get this.

00:28:22.140 I get that.

00:28:22.800 In a lot of ways, DeSantis is a better man morally and a more capable president.

00:28:28.520 Probably would be.

00:28:29.440 I get it.

00:28:30.880 But the cold facts on the ground, no matter what your personal preference was, is that

00:28:36.100 ultimately Donald Trump is in this scenario because the system is willing to destroy him.

00:28:41.700 And the simple fact, whether he deserves your support or not, whether he's a great guy or

00:28:45.400 not, the simple fact that the system is willing to sacrifice everything to destroy this man

00:28:50.300 is willing to destroy the Constitution, destroy the rule of law, destroy your way of life,

00:28:54.480 destroy credibility of all institutions, just to get Donald Trump.

00:28:57.040 The fact that they're willing to do that, whether Donald Trump is worthy of your support

00:29:00.920 or not, doesn't matter.

00:29:02.540 The fact that the institutions are already that corrupt, just finding a less corrupt guy

00:29:06.560 that they won't do that to is not the answer.

00:29:08.580 If you've got a murderer sleeping next to you, the answer is not to be like, well, maybe

00:29:13.620 I'll just find a way to appease them.

00:29:16.240 No, like you have to stop them.

00:29:18.040 You have to take away their weapons.

00:29:19.680 You have to defend yourself.

00:29:21.880 These guys are coming after political opposition in the United States.

00:29:25.700 They are criminalizing political opposition in the United States.

00:29:29.020 They are doing it to Donald Trump right now.

00:29:31.040 Maybe you think he's too radical.

00:29:32.480 Maybe you think he's a bad guy.

00:29:34.600 Maybe you think he's unworthy of your support.

00:29:36.740 Maybe you're right.

00:29:38.580 But if they'll do it to Donald Trump, they'll do it to you and they'll do it to your family.

00:29:43.320 The truest thing Donald Trump said is that they're not coming for me.

00:29:46.680 They're coming for you and I'm just in the way.

00:29:49.900 I wish there was a better person that everyone was going to stand behind.

00:29:54.680 I wish there was a more capable guy that everyone should rally around.

00:29:57.580 But you don't get to pick that moment.

00:30:01.680 And that's where we are right now.

00:30:02.780 We're standing in the gaze of history.

00:30:04.920 Okay?

00:30:05.840 And this is not a time for you to sit around and come up with all kinds of equivocations

00:30:10.440 and all kinds of reasons that nothing needs to get done.

00:30:16.440 These people need to take action.

00:30:18.520 We need leadership right now.

00:30:21.460 There has to be a change in the way that conservatives do things.

00:30:24.780 And you can't tell me about how important it is that you, you know, propriety and what.

00:30:31.180 No.

00:30:32.100 Sorry.

00:30:33.040 That time is gone.

00:30:35.180 That Rubicon is well behind us.

00:30:38.460 There has to be a political cost.

00:30:40.640 And it begins with Republican governors and DAs, attorney generals taking action.

00:30:47.920 You might say, well, that'll never happen.

00:30:50.360 These people are feckless.

00:30:51.840 And you're right.

00:30:52.380 But look, this is what's available and this is what needs to get done.

00:30:56.820 And so we encourage them.

00:30:59.260 We cajole them.

00:31:00.620 We harass them.

00:31:02.320 We implore them.

00:31:04.000 We don't put up with their excuses.

00:31:06.040 We don't put up with their constant reasons why they can't involve themselves, why they have

00:31:12.620 to be above it.

00:31:13.360 We apply constant pressure and we encourage them at every moment to stop whining on Twitter,

00:31:20.340 stop making eloquent statements on, I don't know, Fox News or something, and instead take

00:31:26.920 action.

00:31:28.260 Real substantive action.

00:31:31.180 Immediately.

00:31:31.820 Because if you don't do that, I'm sorry, but no magical wand is going to get waved over

00:31:37.480 this on in November 5th and change what's happening.

00:31:41.320 That won't be the case.

00:31:43.320 I think it's really important for everyone to stay cool.

00:31:46.080 I think it's really important to not give the federal government, honestly, things that

00:31:51.900 they're looking for right now.

00:31:52.980 They want something that they can wave in front of everyone and say, look, dangerous

00:31:59.920 right wingers.

00:32:01.360 They have to, we have to go ahead and crack down on these people.

00:32:04.580 You can't give them to January 6th, but there is a way to do this.

00:32:08.260 Okay.

00:32:08.460 There is a real way to do this.

00:32:09.740 And it starts in each state with leaders who are willing to stand up.

00:32:14.920 And I expect to see leadership from these people.

00:32:17.780 I'm calling directly on them and we expect to see leadership from them.

00:32:21.080 You have been elected for this permit purpose.

00:32:24.600 There is no other option.

00:32:26.480 Something needs to get done.

00:32:28.140 And if you stand around and make excuses to why it won't get done, then you're a failure

00:32:33.560 and you're a coward. 0.96

00:32:35.000 I'm not asking you to do anything immoral.

00:32:37.320 I'm asking you to apply the law with full rigor.

00:32:41.740 The law says illegal immigrants shouldn't be in your state. 1.00

00:32:47.120 The constitution says you have a right to protect your state from invasion.

00:32:50.540 So do it now, a hundred percent.

00:32:54.320 The law says that corrupt Democrats should be prosecuted.

00:32:57.300 So do it.

00:32:58.280 Don't have any excuses.

00:32:59.880 Don't, you don't need to manufacture anything.

00:33:02.040 At least not any more than the Democrats did.

00:33:05.100 He simply needs to go ahead and start busting the people who have violated the law.

00:33:09.600 And so that needs to happen.

00:33:11.300 Because if it doesn't, the Democrats will keep putting their opposition in jail without

00:33:16.000 any consequence and nothing will change.

00:33:18.860 All right, guys, let's go to the questions of the people real quick.

00:33:30.520 Let's see.

00:33:31.720 Robert Weitzfeld says, on the bright side, more and more nominee, more and more normie GOP

00:33:38.700 years are seeing that voting harder is not a viable strategy.

00:33:42.300 Yeah, I think that's true.

00:33:45.000 That's unfortunately or fortunately, depending on how you feel about acceleration, the case

00:33:50.540 that people are recognizing that if they are going to tear down every one of these legitimate

00:33:55.600 processes and they are going to weaponize every one of them, then ultimately they will do the

00:34:01.040 same thing with election.

00:34:02.380 And that's why you don't do this stuff.

00:34:04.340 That's why it's it's political suicide to do this, because if you do this, you are endangering

00:34:11.140 the very fabric of your civilization, which is why you don't put guys like Trump in jail,

00:34:17.540 even if you think he did everything he did and he really is a scumbag.

00:34:20.400 You don't do it for exactly this reason, because it will undermine that.

00:34:25.080 But you're right.

00:34:25.560 It is waking people up.

00:34:26.680 It has to.

00:34:27.160 There's no other option.

00:34:29.800 Let's see.

00:34:32.440 Arthur T for $30.

00:34:34.100 Thank you very much, man.

00:34:35.040 The the establishment didn't understand why Trump was elected in 2016.

00:34:39.820 It was a sign of how frustrated the country was with them.

00:34:43.460 Obviously, looking back, they didn't take the right the hint then or now.

00:34:47.380 Voting harder isn't changing.

00:34:48.840 Yeah.

00:34:49.400 Ultimately, rather than realizing that Trump is not that Trump was a middle finger to them,

00:34:55.060 right, like hilariously, Michael Moore explained this the best on the left.

00:34:59.420 He said Trump is a a pulsating middle finger from the working class, the Rust Belt, the

00:35:04.920 left behinds, the deplorables saying you better listen to us or else.

00:35:09.920 And rather than understanding that, OK, this is probably a sign that we are losing some kind

00:35:16.120 of grip on power, that there's something wrong and we need to change course.

00:35:19.800 Instead, our elite said, actually, we should crack down on these people.

00:35:23.940 We should punish them harder.

00:35:26.200 We should rule them harder.

00:35:27.800 We should do everything we can to go ahead and unseat this guy and keep them from ever

00:35:31.560 running again.

00:35:32.900 And if they had any ounce of self-discipline, any ounce of self-control, they would have

00:35:37.920 realized that ultimately they could have controlled the situation, taken the hint, dialed

00:35:42.960 thing back a little bit, but they'll look away, as academic agent would say, and continue

00:35:48.200 to rule.

00:35:48.920 But they decided not to do that.

00:35:51.220 And so that's why we're here.

00:35:52.540 Matt Greedier says, I've seen a lot of influence on the right, confidently declaring that this

00:36:02.760 will boost Trump in the polls.

00:36:06.020 Doesn't that seem like a cope?

00:36:07.540 I think this will negatively affect his chances.

00:36:10.360 Yeah, you probably put this in before I already said it.

00:36:12.460 But yeah, I'll just reiterate because I think you're right.

00:36:15.080 Yeah, I think.

00:36:15.980 So I do think this will actually help in the polls.

00:36:18.220 I think they are right.

00:36:18.960 Ultimately, this will help in the polls.

00:36:20.420 But I do think that's cope.

00:36:22.500 Because even because it will negatively affect his chances when he can't even show up to

00:36:28.460 certain things.

00:36:29.140 Right.

00:36:29.420 But also, because ultimately, do you really think that people who would go to this extent

00:36:33.980 are just going to run a normal election?

00:36:36.360 I mean, that has to be the question everyone is thinking.

00:36:39.340 Like, would people who would go ahead and do this actually just let the people have their

00:36:44.940 say?

00:36:45.840 I mean, maybe again, the poll numbers will be so high and so overwhelming that there's

00:36:51.220 just nothing they can do.

00:36:52.240 70, 75% for Trump, so much that no thumb on the scale one way or another will change

00:36:57.880 things.

00:36:58.220 But I doubt that we are a more evenly divided country than even many people on the right

00:37:03.440 would like to admit.

00:37:04.260 And you would hope that treating Trump like this would sway enough people to ultimately

00:37:08.120 make them value the preservation of the system over their preferred candidate.

00:37:12.620 And I think for some, it will.

00:37:13.780 I do think legitimately there will be some people who change their mind on this.

00:37:16.500 But do I think it'll be, you know, enough to give Trump like 65, 70% of the vote?

00:37:22.000 So there's no way that there can be shenanigans that sway things?

00:37:25.620 No, I doubt it.

00:37:29.020 Let's see.

00:37:33.100 Florida Henry says, thinking evil, the left should make a hard push.

00:37:36.560 Nothing will stop them.

00:37:37.580 Every institution is corrupted.

00:37:39.160 Churches are hollow and families are disintegrated.

00:37:41.460 Honestly, who would stop them?

00:37:43.480 So I hear you, Florida Henry, but I do want to make it clear that the purpose of this stream

00:37:47.600 was not to blackpill people.

00:37:49.900 I think we do need to go ahead and recognize that we're in a difficult situation, that what

00:37:56.260 has happened here is unprecedented.

00:37:58.020 It is dangerous.

00:37:59.420 It is stupid.

00:38:00.740 But I also do think that ultimately there is a understanding of what time it is now on

00:38:07.460 the right for a lot of people.

00:38:08.400 I understand that, yeah, the left probably, you know, in their in their darkest hearts

00:38:14.320 do want to go ahead and break these things and expect no one to push back against them.

00:38:18.980 But I think they also know better that that that spirit is not completely gone and that

00:38:23.540 ultimately there is a possibility of opposition.

00:38:27.840 Like I've already laid out what I think can push back.

00:38:30.820 I think it is the duty of elected Republicans and office holders to wield their power in

00:38:37.460 an effort to go ahead and show that there are political consequences for the decisions

00:38:41.140 that the Democrats have made.

00:38:42.880 And I think that that should be done legally.

00:38:45.040 I think that should be done peacefully, but it should be done with great rigor and forcefully

00:38:49.500 and that there needs to be a very serious consequence, a very serious political price extracted

00:38:56.660 from these people.

00:38:57.900 And that's where our efforts should be focused.

00:39:03.980 Let's see.

00:39:05.020 Thuggo says, doesn't political motives in regional courts accelerate national breakups and instability?

00:39:10.700 That's entirely possible.

00:39:13.040 Entirely possible.

00:39:14.120 That's why you don't play these games.

00:39:16.300 That's why you don't that's why you don't force the other side to the table like this,

00:39:20.520 because once the once the process starts, you don't know where it goes.

00:39:25.560 But ultimately, you know, they have chosen that path.

00:39:31.460 And so that's the thing to do next is to say, no, we will enforce the law.

00:39:36.800 We will we're not going to do anything illegal, but we are going to fully enforce the law.

00:39:41.320 And that means that we're going to go ahead and take action.

00:39:45.700 You can't stop the left from corrupting the courts the way that they have.

00:39:49.920 Right. If they if they create the courts that they have in their regions and they have no

00:39:54.780 problem doing that, then there's nothing you can do to stop that when you don't live there.

00:39:59.260 Right. Now, we ultimately don't have any sway over that.

00:40:02.360 So there's not really a decision to be made there.

00:40:05.260 It's ultimately one that they pick.

00:40:07.540 And either, you know, it has the consequences or it doesn't.

00:40:09.800 Tiny Rick says Trump is the hero we deserve, not the hero we need.

00:40:16.540 That may be in a very depressing way.

00:40:18.320 True. He might simply be the leader that a country that is gone where we have gone deserves

00:40:24.580 ultimately. But like I said, now is not a time for people to quibble whether or not it would

00:40:29.960 have been better to have someone else.

00:40:32.120 Ultimately, the fact that the system is willing to tear itself apart to get Donald Trump is

00:40:35.540 enough for you to realize that it shouldn't be in charge.

00:40:37.920 Let's see.

00:40:42.480 Paladin YYZ says you can't have it both ways if he's a puppet of the if he's a puppet and the 0.92

00:40:47.360 office is owned by the deep state, then he is not our president.

00:40:50.340 It doesn't belong to us.

00:40:51.740 The office is theirs to do with what they want.

00:40:54.340 It's not our fight, not our country.

00:40:57.120 I hear what you're saying.

00:40:59.280 And I, of course, just again, wrote a book about how much of the power in the United States

00:41:04.200 is vested in things that are not the formal government.

00:41:07.220 But ultimately, I think that the symbols do matter.

00:41:11.600 I think that archetypes do matter.

00:41:13.600 I think that there is a certain understanding that we need to grasp of how forces play out

00:41:20.900 and that you ultimately can move people in this way.

00:41:26.120 I do think that it's important to understand where power has been placed so that you can root out those effects.

00:41:33.640 But I think there is a tendency for people to say, oh, well, then it's all just hopeless and we should abandon it.

00:41:40.240 And I think that's a huge mistake.

00:41:41.940 You can't do that.

00:41:43.160 You can't do that.

00:41:43.860 There's too much at stake.

00:41:44.760 But they're not going to leave you alone.

00:41:48.560 Paladin YYZ says, this house that you were born in has been sold and changed hands five times by now.

00:41:53.640 The new owners are getting a little chaff, but you keep bringing your kids over and drinking their beer.

00:41:58.020 We are on our own, guys.

00:42:01.440 Again, I think that there is a certain truth to the fact that ultimately they don't believe that any of these institutions belong to us anymore.

00:42:11.020 They don't think that they serve the country.

00:42:13.000 They only serve the interests of the managerial elite.

00:42:15.600 And, of course, there is some truth to that.

00:42:17.260 But ultimately, I think that you have to recognize that the country is not just the institution.

00:42:24.260 And the country is still ours.

00:42:26.940 The institutions may not be the country it is.

00:42:30.100 Florida Henry says, another step similar to Sulla and Marius.

00:42:36.100 No lack of allusions to Roman history or comparisons to Roman history that you can make here.

00:42:43.200 I think it's probably a good time to study up on those.

00:42:48.180 The Storm Before the Storm is a great book if you'd like to read that and understand the history behind what he's talking about there.

00:42:54.580 Mike Duncan, who's a raging lib, very sadly.

00:42:57.680 But despite being a raging lib, still wrote a fairly good history that you can better understand that period.

00:43:07.320 Michael Robertson says, petition to change conquest law to a libertarian law.

00:43:12.020 Yeah.

00:43:13.200 Yeah.

00:43:13.780 Libertarian Party is in quite a mess.

00:43:15.540 I don't know.

00:43:16.340 I want to talk to Dave Smith about that eventually.

00:43:18.780 But I think right now he's licking his wounds and I don't want to rub anything in.

00:43:22.140 I know I got to talk to Tom Woods twice recently.

00:43:25.400 We didn't specifically talk about what's happened in the Libertarian Party.

00:43:29.200 But if you listen to those episodes, you can probably figure out where Tom Woods is on that issue right now.

00:43:34.720 Let's see.

00:43:35.880 Creepy Weirdo says, you're going to feel so silly when they use Trump to put the woke away.

00:43:40.260 They want him to win, you know.

00:43:43.300 Yeah.

00:43:43.520 I feel like I feel like A.A.'s thesis is in shambles at the moment.

00:43:47.480 Look, I'm pretty sure at some point A.A. and I agreed that if Trump is convicted, that's that's clearly a win for me.

00:43:55.500 However, apparently people have crawled through different streams and things, and maybe that was never an official writer on the bet.

00:44:04.060 I still think it was.

00:44:05.120 But whatever.

00:44:05.820 I'll abide by the ruling of the autistic, you know, chat. 1.00

00:44:11.580 But ultimately, I think this is a body blow to A.A.'s thesis.

00:44:15.740 Clearly, these people are not capable of putting the woke away. 0.98

00:44:19.120 The idea that they would be is clearly not case.

00:44:22.780 Maybe they'll do that in Britain, right?

00:44:24.140 But they're not going to do it.

00:44:25.500 If you need any more evidence, then I don't know what to tell you.

00:44:28.320 They're literally putting a president in jail or probably aren't.

00:44:36.380 PaladinYYZ says they didn't rig the election any more than the guy who sold me the blue car 10 years ago rigged it by painting it yellow.

00:44:42.960 It was a car.

00:44:43.840 City planners do it all the time.

00:44:45.280 Global planners are no different.

00:44:48.140 But yeah, I guess.

00:44:49.900 I mean, ultimately, like I said, you can you can say that all of these manipulations of the systems were inevitable.

00:44:55.740 And that means that ultimately there wasn't anything odd going on or executed here.

00:45:00.720 It was all inevitable.

00:45:01.460 I would say that there was pretty obviously extreme effort because of Trump and because of the threat they felt like he actually represented, even though I don't think he did at all.

00:45:11.600 Ultimately, I think that there was a huge effort in coordinated to seriously alter the rules.

00:45:17.960 Much of it above board in some ways, you know, and not not not perhaps the midnight of ballot dump that many people have speculated.

00:45:27.220 But again, if you want to get references for that, I think Molly Hemingway's book is the place to go.

00:45:33.980 Let's see.

00:45:37.860 Raspi Block 06A says not to be pessimistic, but the problem of electoral fraud must be addressed by conservatives now directly.

00:45:46.380 Otherwise, all efforts will be for not.

00:45:48.800 Yeah, I mean, that's a hard argument not to make or a hard argument to disagree with.

00:45:53.160 Rather, I think that ultimately, I don't know how you solve that problem on a national level in a few months.

00:46:01.700 If this problem was going to be solved by the Republican Party, it would have been solved years ago.

00:46:08.680 And some people have taken action.

00:46:11.220 I know Governor DeSantis has worked to clean up voter rolls and show up the process in states like Florida.

00:46:16.280 But he was going to win that everywhere anyway.

00:46:18.000 So that's not really where it has to take place.

00:46:20.460 Gail, thanks for the definition or the donation, but I'm going to skip that one just to be super safe because, you know, it is election season and censorship is going to be everywhere.

00:46:33.200 Old Sean or 01 Sean 01 says it's too late to appeal to red state politicians to start arresting political enemies.

00:46:41.020 Who should appeal to them if not?

00:46:45.240 Is it too late and who should appeal to them if not?

00:46:47.940 Yeah, no, I think everyone needs to.

00:46:49.500 I know I'm lending my voice to this.

00:46:52.380 I hope that many commentators and voices go ahead and do the same.

00:46:58.320 I hope that you encourage them to do that as constituents.

00:47:02.140 I hope that people in those positions do that to the extent that they can.

00:47:06.400 I don't think it's too late.

00:47:07.840 I think that these actions can be taken pretty swiftly and they should be taken.

00:47:13.180 Again, I think you can do it all legally.

00:47:15.000 I don't think you need to manufacture anything.

00:47:16.560 I don't think you need to do anything outside of the law, though the Democrats are more than willing to do that.

00:47:21.800 And if you feel led, then I get it.

00:47:24.140 But ultimately, I think you can do all of this legally with legal justification backing you every step of the way.

00:47:29.400 You just have to actually enforce the law as it's written.

00:47:32.120 You just have to actually take the steps that you can take.

00:47:34.800 You need to have the courage as a Republican executive or as an attorney general or as a prosecutor to go ahead and apply the law the way that it should be applied.

00:47:47.960 So that said, guys, I'm going to go ahead and wrap this up.

00:47:50.420 Thank you, everybody, for coming on.

00:47:52.260 Obviously, crazy time, but stay cool.

00:47:56.820 Remember that Christ is king and ultimately that his will be done.

00:48:03.600 And the biggest thing that you can do is, once again, focus on your family, focus on the well-being of your community, make things better locally.

00:48:13.520 You may not be able to change everything that's happening nationally, and that's okay.

00:48:18.760 That's not ultimately where your peace comes from.

00:48:21.820 That doesn't mean that you shouldn't do anything.

00:48:24.200 I'm not saying that.

00:48:25.220 I'm just saying that remember ultimately what matters.

00:48:28.940 And what matters is the good you can do around you.

00:48:31.600 And if that means that you can lend your aid to brave politicians who will take action or that you yourself can be a brave politician that takes action, then that's fantastic.

00:48:42.540 But try not to get blackpilled on a bunch of stuff happening far away.

00:48:48.180 Try to do the best to care for the people around you.

00:48:51.200 Keep your spirits up.

00:48:52.180 Focus on what matters.

00:48:53.680 Because ultimately, no matter what happens with Trump, it's virtuous communities.

00:48:57.740 It's people caring for each other that makes a difference.

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The Auron MacIntyre Show - May 31, 2024

The Total State Convicts Donald Trump ｜ 5⧸31⧸24

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