The Auron MacIntyre Show - 'The Total State' Release Celebration ｜ 5⧸7⧸2024

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00:00:30.180 Hey everybody, how's it going?

00:00:32.400 Thanks for joining me this afternoon.

00:00:34.140 I am Oren McIntyre.

00:00:36.760 So, very strange day, but very exciting day.

00:00:40.820 The book, The Total State, How Liberal Democracies Become Tyrannies, is finally out.

00:00:47.000 It's out everywhere.

00:00:48.060 You can, of course, order it on Amazon, Barnes & Noble, Books A Million, all kinds of other retailers.

00:00:54.460 It's now officially being delivered for those who have already pre-ordered it,

00:00:58.140 or you can go ahead and get your copy now.

00:01:01.040 It's pretty wild that this exists.

00:01:03.880 I'm somebody who never really expected to write a book, much less have it released from a major publisher.

00:01:09.460 It's an honor.

00:01:09.960 It's an honor.

00:01:10.260 It's because of you guys.

00:01:13.780 It's because of the audience that has been here, many of you since the very beginning,

00:01:19.260 when I was talking and explaining political theory over some games of Magic the Gathering Arena,

00:01:26.320 because I didn't really know what I was doing.

00:01:28.380 I had like 100 subscribers.

00:01:29.980 And so, it's been amazing to just see this thing grow and change and all the opportunities that become available

00:01:36.600 and the way that the book has taken shape.

00:01:39.520 And so, I just wanted to take an episode today, do a stream today, to just celebrate that,

00:01:45.440 to talk to you guys a little bit about the process of how this got done.

00:01:49.760 Thank everybody who has been key to making this happen.

00:01:53.040 And maybe give a little bit of a preview to those who are unfamiliar or want to know more about the book,

00:01:58.320 aren't sure about what it's about.

00:02:00.720 And finally, just take questions from the audience, take questions from you guys.

00:02:05.220 A little bit of ask me anything here as well.

00:02:08.080 I'll do any super chats, but also just general questions if you want to add me in the chat and I see them.

00:02:13.740 I'll go ahead and answer those as we go along, as time permits.

00:02:17.780 So, I'm going to dive into all that, guys.

00:02:19.960 Again, just a surreal day.

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00:03:45.280 All right, guys. So let's go ahead and dive into a little bit of, I guess, the history of the book and really this channel and everything I'm doing now.

00:03:56.420 So I know many of you have been here from the beginning, but obviously we've added a lot of people since then.

00:04:03.180 So it's always exciting to see people in the chat.

00:04:05.540 It's one of the nice things about the live stream format, the way that this channel has always been structured.

00:04:10.120 I've always done kind of the video essays and I've had the interviews, but I've also always had live streams with you guys.

00:04:17.360 We've always seen different people showing up, asking questions, commenting, talking with each other.

00:04:23.420 I've actually even had the honor of meeting many of you in person when I've gone to events like the Skilled Things event

00:04:30.260 and I've got the Old Glory Club event coming up here in a month or so.

00:04:35.900 And so it's been really great to see people who have been there since the beginning and have been plugged in and are excited, been rooting on everything that's happening.

00:04:43.780 Very cool, absolutely, to have that.

00:04:46.300 But obviously a lot has happened since then.

00:04:48.840 The channel has grown.

00:04:50.100 I'm on the blaze now.

00:04:51.340 I've had a much wider audience since that began.

00:04:54.560 So people might not be familiar with, I guess, kind of where this started and how this kicked off.

00:04:59.700 And that really is the story of the book.

00:05:01.740 In many ways, the total state is the story of my political journey.

00:05:06.380 Like a lot of people who probably are listening to this right now, I started as kind of just a normal talk radio conservative.

00:05:16.000 I was always interested in politics as a kid.

00:05:17.880 You know, my parents weren't super political, but I was I got a hold of a radio when I was like 10 or 11, started listening to to the actual radio.

00:05:30.440 I know it's a wild concept.

00:05:32.280 You know, today kids are like, oh, you dial it in with kind of brontosaurus bones.

00:05:36.840 But, you know, I got I got one of those small little portable radios and I started listening to the FM first for music.

00:05:44.040 But then I heard the AM and I heard people talking about sports and stuff because I was really big on baseball at the time.

00:05:51.600 And then I started hearing people talking about politics on the AM band.

00:05:57.200 And I was hooked.

00:05:58.260 Like I started hearing talk radio and I listened.

00:06:00.400 I listened to Rush Limbaugh and I listened to Dennis Prager.

00:06:04.120 And I listened to Sean Hannity and I listened to kind of Glenn Beck and everybody, you know, who was kind of on the radio at the time.

00:06:12.980 And I was very influenced by this.

00:06:15.000 This was my understanding of the political world.

00:06:17.600 And so, you know, I went to college.

00:06:20.140 I ended up getting a political science degree.

00:06:22.760 I focused on political theory in it.

00:06:24.780 But, you know, when I came out, there's not a lot of jobs in political theory.

00:06:28.120 And so I ended up working in politics.

00:06:30.700 I worked a little bit in Republican politics and eventually became a journalist.

00:06:37.100 And when I became a journalist, I got hired on as a political reporter just for a local newspaper.

00:06:42.840 You know, nothing big.

00:06:43.480 I wasn't at CNN.

00:06:44.580 I wasn't at Fox News.

00:06:45.840 I wasn't writing for Politico or anything.

00:06:48.000 Just, you know, doing the local beat.

00:06:49.880 You know, what's happening with crime in this area?

00:06:52.260 What bills or what new taxes are being passed by the city council or the county commission?

00:06:57.060 And, you know, not groundbreaking stuff.

00:06:59.360 Sometimes Trump would come to town and the governor would come to town and I'd get to do a bigger story.

00:07:05.080 You know, we had a hurricane or two and we got national news attention for that.

00:07:09.540 So it got to do some of those wider stories.

00:07:11.980 But in general, it's just kind of the nuts and bolts of small town politics.

00:07:17.040 And I did a lot of crime.

00:07:18.380 I also did a lot of crime reporting, I should say.

00:07:21.340 I didn't do a lot of crime.

00:07:22.240 I didn't engage in a lot of lawbreaking, but did a lot of reporting on crime as well.

00:07:28.000 And during that time, I got to see kind of the way that many of these news stories were created and shaped.

00:07:34.340 And that really changed the way that I understood politics because I saw that people could just lie or completely manipulate the perception that the public had in any given situation about political happenings.

00:07:47.620 And that would completely shift the conversation, the discussion, the frame of the way that you wrote about an event, the way that you presented the facts, even though you might even share most of the facts.

00:07:58.320 You didn't completely lie or make up some of that would completely change the outcome and the way that people perceive things.

00:08:03.880 And I saw the way that Donald Trump was treated by the media.

00:08:06.700 And I hadn't really cared very much about Donald Trump one way or another up to that point.

00:08:11.020 But when you notice that everyone around you is kind of constantly trying to get this guy, well, not fired because he's elected, he's the president, but they're constantly trying to get him removed from office.

00:08:22.640 They're constantly trying to tell falsehoods about him.

00:08:25.940 They're always casting him a bad light.

00:08:27.940 They're going out of their way to tell terrible stories about him, often which are completely unfounded.

00:08:33.460 They're willing to risk their credibility, which I thought was the entire point of the media, right?

00:08:37.420 Because I was very naive.

00:08:38.380 I was like, well, you know, the media, yeah, there's some bad actors.

00:08:41.880 I'm a conservative.

00:08:42.700 I know that they lie sometimes.

00:08:44.320 But, you know, the idea that they would completely throw their credibility out the window just to hurt this, you know, one guy who didn't seem all that important to me in the long run was very confusing.

00:08:54.520 And then everything happened with 2020.

00:08:56.560 And that really blew my mind.

00:08:58.700 You know, I watched everything fall apart.

00:09:01.520 The, you know, the churches were shut down.

00:09:04.420 We were locked in our homes.

00:09:06.400 There were riots in the streets.

00:09:08.380 And it didn't seem like the restrictions on government, the Bill of Rights, the Constitution, all that stuff I had learned about had had a significant control or impact on that.

00:09:17.760 And so I started this channel.

00:09:19.980 And when I started this channel, it was really just for me to kind of work through the things that I had learned about because I was also a teacher.

00:09:27.940 I was a teacher and a journalist.

00:09:29.940 And so basically my skill set is understanding things by explaining.

00:09:34.820 That's really what I do at the end of the day.

00:09:36.720 That's how I process things.

00:09:38.480 And that's how I communicate them to other people.

00:09:40.060 And that's what I'm good at.

00:09:41.080 And so for me to understand kind of what I was learning, I needed to tell other people about it.

00:09:46.500 And a lot of people who are kind of creative in this way will tell you this.

00:09:50.080 You don't really understand something until you can teach it.

00:09:52.500 You don't really understand your thought until you've written it down, until you've written something about, written something out.

00:09:58.440 You haven't organized your thoughts and you haven't really mastered an idea until you can teach it to someone else.

00:10:03.280 So that's what I wanted to do.

00:10:04.540 And I started hearing about this guy, Curtis Yarvin, from Dave the Distributist, Dave Greeney.

00:10:11.600 I mainly watched Dave for his other stuff.

00:10:14.920 You see, he was talking to this guy, Sargon of Akkad.

00:10:17.940 Deep lore for me.

00:10:19.520 I actually first learned about all of this stuff, like this whole online kind of online write bubble.

00:10:26.600 I learned about this because I was working.

00:10:29.600 I needed some part-time money.

00:10:31.860 I wanted to pick up some extra money.

00:10:33.280 And so I had a buddy who did moderation, paid moderation for video game companies.

00:10:39.780 So I did some moderation for a couple of video game companies that you would definitely know.

00:10:45.100 They're very big.

00:10:46.140 And one of them was very woke at the time, though I didn't understand that term.

00:10:50.280 And I ran into this discussion of this idea called Gamergate.

00:10:54.040 And they kept complaining about Gamergate on this video game forum where I was closing the threads and everything.

00:11:01.380 And I was like, what is this all about?

00:11:03.280 And the first thing I did when I Googled Gamergate is up popped Sargon of Akkad.

00:11:08.740 And, of course, you guys know Sargon today is Carl Benjamin.

00:11:11.840 He's been on this channel multiple times at this point.

00:11:14.480 But he had this discussion with Dave the Distributist.

00:11:17.780 And I learned some stuff from Carl.

00:11:20.040 But really, Dave seemed to actually have a lot of answers that Carl didn't have.

00:11:25.340 Dave seemed to understand a lot about the situation.

00:11:28.260 That even though Carl had a broader understanding than maybe the mainstream media, Dave had an even broader understanding.

00:11:35.780 He was connected to a lot more truths about the situation where you're in.

00:11:40.500 And so that's how I ended up listening to Dave, who then led me to Curtis Yarvin, Minchus Molebug, as he wrote at the time.

00:11:49.240 We did not know Curtis Yarvin's real name when I first learned about this.

00:11:52.400 He was just Minchus Molebug, the pen name.

00:11:55.160 And that really sent me down a rabbit hole.

00:11:57.060 Of course, Yarvin's thought has been critical to me.

00:11:59.560 I've had him on the show as well.

00:12:02.020 He's a huge influence.

00:12:03.700 But Curtis, while, of course, he's brilliant and well worth your time to read, really the most valuable part of Curtis is his ability to pull all these other guys you've never heard of together.

00:12:15.080 And so, you know, whether it starts with James Burnham and his collection of the Machiavellians, Vilfredo Pareto, Gaetano Mosca, Robert McKells, these are all critical figures and understanding, I think, the school of political theory.

00:12:29.120 That I talk about in the total state, but also other thinkers that maybe aren't just in the, you know, in kind of the Machiavellians, just in that Italian elite theory school.

00:12:38.760 Of course, you learn about guys like Bertrand Juvenal, learn about guys like Joseph de Maestra, learn about guys like Carl Schmitt, who I think really help us understand the political situation that we're in.

00:12:53.460 And so as I was doing these book reports, basically, right, I was just reading these books, trying to understand them.

00:13:01.300 I ran into guys like Oswald Spangler, just a lot of guys.

00:13:04.440 And I even revisited some people who were critical to my thought before, Oswald McIntyre, C.S. Lewis, a lot of these guys, I had read them, I had understood some of what they were talking about at the time.

00:13:18.020 But I went ahead and revisited them in the light of many of the things that I was learning about our power and political systems and our cultural problems.

00:13:27.220 And there are even much deeper insights that I didn't understand when I first went through at the time.

00:13:32.620 And so as I was doing all these different book reports and trying to understand what was going on, I went ahead and, you know, I went ahead and put these videos online, started inviting different people in to have discussions, mainly because I just wanted to talk to them.

00:13:47.800 It was just an exciting opportunity to speak to, like, Endeavor or Charlemagne or Dave or all these other people who I'd always wanted to talk to.

00:13:56.520 I was very interested in kind of understanding the ideas that they were exploring.

00:14:01.340 And as I did this, you know, I didn't have any intention to write a book, but my wife kept saying, hey, all those ideas you're talking about, you know, all those things that you talk about in your videos, you should really turn them into a book because I wasn't writing articles at this time.

00:14:14.820 You know, now I write weekly articles for The Blaze, and you can see many of my ideas develop there, many of the things I talk about there.

00:14:22.020 But at the time, I was not really writing except for just the things I was talking about in the video.

00:14:27.460 And so I went ahead and started weaving them together, really at the time, just writing down a lot of what I had said in the videos, but maybe adding some more, making some more in-depth analysis, upping the level of scholarship a little bit to make sure that I was understanding things correctly.

00:14:45.400 And as I did this, I slowly started to see that there was really a through line in all of this.

00:14:52.100 It wasn't just analyzing power, though that's very helpful, and it's a key part of the book.

00:14:56.440 I certainly spent a lot of time in the book explaining how we should understand power, how it gets applied in the United States.

00:15:03.460 So that is certainly in the book for sure.

00:15:05.620 The core of it is Italian elite theory and its understanding of power.

00:15:10.860 But I understood that there was a wider world at play here.

00:15:15.240 There was a through line in what had developed.

00:15:18.000 It wasn't just that we needed to understand that, you know, the media and academia and all of these other things are working with unelected parts of the state and that democracy doesn't necessarily actually restrict those things.

00:15:32.340 But I started to understand from Bertrand de Juvenal and others, the metaphysics of power actually meant that the state was always growing.

00:15:39.600 It was always seeking decentralized power.

00:15:41.380 And the way that it did that was to break down the bonds of society, to break down the things that held society together in an organic way, the family, the church, the tribe, the wider community, merchant guilds, all these things that exist in a healthy and organic natural society had to be broken down so the state could go ahead and centralize power.

00:16:03.800 And these large bureaucratic structures that James Burnham talks about in the managerial revolution seek to do exactly that.

00:16:12.040 And so the total state is really expanding on this idea.

00:16:14.980 I mean, more and more people are starting to understand the idea of the deep state, which is very important.

00:16:21.080 That's a great thing.

00:16:22.240 The conservatives are starting to understand that this unelected bureaucracy is a critical part of the power structure.

00:16:29.800 It's not just, oh, I elected the president and he works with the congressman I elected and they all get together and they make laws and that's how my government works.

00:16:39.340 No, actually, those laws have to be applied by bureaucracies and the way that they do that, the ideology that they have and the interests that they have actually impacts the way that all of this works.

00:16:48.640 And increasingly very little amount of the actual business of government involves the making of the laws and the following of the laws and more and more is taken out of control of, you know, kind of these elected representatives and handed over to this deep state apparatus.

00:17:03.660 That's all great.

00:17:04.960 That's all a critical part of that.

00:17:06.320 That is part of the total state to be sure.

00:17:08.160 But it goes well beyond that.

00:17:09.800 It's that the structures of these bureaucracies are not unique to the United States government or the federal branch, but actually they apply to everything.

00:17:18.840 They apply to corporations.

00:17:19.980 They apply to the NGOs in our society.

00:17:23.880 They apply, of course, to financial institutions.

00:17:26.220 They apply to churches.

00:17:27.820 They apply to every single thing in our society.

00:17:30.920 And the structure and organization of society, the way that we have had to alter our society in order to scale up human organization has really changed who we are and the way that power works, the way the government works, and the direction our society is going.

00:17:45.940 And so in addition to an analysis of power, the total state is also the explanation of the development of these large managerial bureaucracies, the managerial class that operates them, the desire of the managerial class to change human nature in the way that we order ourselves and understand ourselves, the way that it dehumanizes us.

00:18:06.860 It programs us to work in a specific coordinated fashion with the managerial structures that it creates and why it needs to ultimately globalize those structures, why it's obsessed with tearing down national identities, the identities of people, dissolving those differences and turning us all into one homogenized managerial gray goo.

00:18:28.540 And those are all things that I think are critical to understanding.

00:18:31.520 So the power matters, the analysis matters, but I think it's also critical to understand the structure behind it, the incentives behind it, the way that it orders our society, and very importantly, why I don't think it's sustainable long term, why I think it will come apart, it has to come apart, we're already seeing it come apart, and what to do after that.

00:18:52.480 And so that's kind of the main structure and the story that emerged in the book as I started.

00:19:00.040 And I want to go ahead and thank a lot of people who were involved in this.

00:19:05.280 Of course, I've already mentioned that Dave the Distributist, Charlemagne, Clossington, Anamnesis, though I don't think he still has a YouTube channel anymore.

00:19:16.120 But these were all people who were critical to me understanding at the beginning, this kind of near-actionary and Italian elite theory set of ideas that were kind of the beginning of my journey on this.

00:19:28.840 So they were all very critical.

00:19:30.140 Of course, I'm very grateful to Academic Agent, who, in addition to sharing some of those understandings and ideas, also somebody who championed my work very early on, had me on his program, was constantly promoting me on Twitter when he had no reason to do so, and it was no benefit to him.

00:19:48.760 You know, there's a lot of guys like Michael Malice or Paul Joseph Watson, Bronze Age Pervert. 1.00

00:19:55.840 There are a lot of guys who had much larger accounts than me on Twitter and started sharing my stuff when I didn't have very many followers.

00:20:04.800 Alex Kishuda was another person who was really championing my work on Twitter when not a lot of people knew who I was or cared.

00:20:11.840 And, you know, obviously, I don't always agree with every one of these guys on everything, you know, but the fact that they were willing to go ahead and share out my stuff and thought that, you know, my insights were worthwhile and share me with their audience was, of course, a huge deal.

00:20:25.720 And it really made a difference.

00:20:27.480 I also had a lot of people who invited me on their shows and took a chance on me when I was literally just an icon on a page.

00:20:34.640 You know, when TimCast had me on, my face had never been on anything.

00:20:38.960 I was just a piece of art that my wife had drawn, you know, so that I could have something up when I was talking.

00:20:45.980 And so it was very wild to have them invite me on just out of nowhere.

00:20:50.880 Same thing with Tipping Point, when OAN had me on there, Kara invited me on and I was, she was willing to have me on with just my internet avatar.

00:21:02.320 I was just a thumbnail on a full-blown news program, which is pretty funny.

00:21:07.880 That was before Tucker was doing any of this.

00:21:10.140 Of course, Tucker Carlson retweeted me, or I should say not retweeted me, but actually read my tweet on Fox News.

00:21:17.080 So that was a huge thing.

00:21:18.800 I had a lot of people like Michael Knowles and Steve Dace who invited me on to their show when, you know, they're, again, no reason to have me on.

00:21:30.280 I was very low profile.

00:21:31.320 So it's just been a lot of people along the way who have kind of helped me.

00:21:35.460 Of course, it's been amazing to, you know, see this channel grow.

00:21:39.020 We had, you know, American Ostracon was kind of my faithful companion for a long time.

00:21:44.300 And then when he got busy, the Prudentialist stepped in.

00:21:47.720 And now the Prudentialist has a, you know, a burgeoning career himself.

00:21:51.160 So I've got to find new hosts, I guess.

00:21:54.340 But they've been, they were great.

00:21:55.960 They were all, you know, always there to help me bounce ideas off of them.

00:21:59.540 And they were willing to contribute and help grow the show.

00:22:02.340 And they were, of course, critical to this.

00:22:04.500 You know, big thank you to Rad Lib.

00:22:07.320 Steve is a, just a great guy.

00:22:13.620 Steve Carson is just a great guy.

00:22:15.780 And he's also just been very generous with his time.

00:22:19.520 He's been very generous with his willingness to, he went ahead and edited all of my stuff when it was kind of in its raw estate.

00:22:28.400 And if you've ever seen me on Twitter, you know that I misspell and have terrible grammatical errors and formatting errors all the time.

00:22:36.300 And so he was willing to go through and do all of that just out of the kindness of his heart.

00:22:40.760 And so that was an amazing help.

00:22:43.180 Mark and Molly Hemingway were great.

00:22:46.380 They were always giving me advice and encouraging me and sharing things out.

00:22:50.040 Really, when I had no clue what I was doing, I was stepping into a world I had no connections and no idea what to do.

00:22:56.100 And so, like, that was always amazing.

00:22:58.240 And, of course, I want to thank you guys.

00:23:01.080 I would not be here without you.

00:23:03.160 I wouldn't be able to do anything I'm doing without you.

00:23:06.340 Two years ago, I was teaching, like, Southern Reconstruction to a bunch of bored high school students.

00:23:12.420 And now I've got, you know, a book from a major publisher and a show on The Blaze and just everything else.

00:23:17.360 And it's just wild.

00:23:19.100 And I can't believe it, that it's happened.

00:23:22.740 And it only happened because so many of you were willing to, you know, watch and share and, you know, spread everything.

00:23:29.100 And it's really been wild.

00:23:32.560 So, you know, the book is finally here.

00:23:34.380 The, you know, the long march, it took, I guess you could say it's one of those things where, in some ways, it took many years because I was writing these video essays way back.

00:23:45.240 And much of the book is drawn from the video essays.

00:23:47.860 So, you know, you might have heard some of this if you watched the channel because some of it made it in there.

00:23:54.180 But, of course, it's also been refined and fleshed out and brought together into a full book.

00:23:59.060 And so there's a lot of changes there as well.

00:24:02.140 But, you know, so you could say that it started years ago when the channel started.

00:24:05.940 But in some ways, really, the crunch and the grind of getting the book out has really been in the last year or so.

00:24:12.240 And it's very wild.

00:24:13.240 It's a very strange experience.

00:24:14.320 I never expected to be a professional writer.

00:24:16.620 If you told 12-year-old me that I'd be writing for a living, he would be terrified.

00:24:21.300 Like, why?

00:24:22.120 Why would you do this yourself?

00:24:23.080 That sounds like torture.

00:24:24.820 And so it's very weird for this to be like a thing.

00:24:28.040 But I love it.

00:24:29.040 I enjoy it.

00:24:29.540 It turns out to be something that I find to be very meaningful and very helpful.

00:24:34.200 And I'm glad that a lot of other people feel the same way.

00:24:38.480 And so it's been very strange.

00:24:40.920 It's also very weird to edit your own stuff.

00:24:42.840 Let me tell you, if you write a book, the worst part is reading your own book like 30 times over and over and over and over and over and over again.

00:24:51.400 You read it and what you're writing and you hate it and you delete a bunch of it and you write it again and then you write it again and then you write it again.

00:24:58.960 And then you finally publish it like on your sub stack or something and then you edit it again and you edit it again and you add it into a book.

00:25:07.340 And then when it's a book, you have to read it again and again.

00:25:09.900 And it's just it's a lot.

00:25:11.420 It's a lot.

00:25:12.120 And it could be it could be torturous.

00:25:14.560 But, you know, when the when the when the volume finally arrives and it's a real thing that people can hold in their hand and you feel like you kind of collected all of these things you learned and explain them in a way that hopefully helps people to grasp what's going on in kind of our current our current time, our current year.

00:25:33.720 That's great.

00:25:35.020 And it's it feels worth it.

00:25:36.580 And so now now we're on the media tour scheduling.

00:25:40.940 You know, there's just a bunch of appearances every day, loads and loads of appearances.

00:25:45.080 So that's that's exciting working all of that in.

00:25:48.480 But of course, all worth it.

00:25:50.200 Very honored to be able to do it.

00:25:52.360 And very thankful to you guys who have made that.

00:25:56.100 That's something that that I get to do for a living.

00:25:58.100 It's just really amazing.

00:26:00.340 All right.

00:26:00.740 So I'm going to go ahead and take a look.

00:26:03.140 I'll go to the Super Chats first, guys, but you don't have to Super Chat.

00:26:06.060 I'll try to answer as many questions as I can before the hour is up here.

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00:26:40.800 I'm just going to start with the Super Chats for ease.

00:26:44.100 But if you can do me a favor, if you're asking a non-Super Chat question, can you put an at or in?

00:26:50.360 Can you can you tag me in it so I know it's a question to me because it's hard to pick out the questions from the things that people are just saying back and forth to each other.

00:26:58.540 So I do see some people asking questions, but it's hard to track down which ones are for me and which ones are just you guys talking back and forth to each other in chat unless you give me that at so I know what's going on there.

00:27:11.500 So I'll start with Super Chats and then I'll try to get through people who are directly sending questions that way.

00:27:19.540 All right.

00:27:21.260 Tuttle says, I struggle making time for my ballooning book backlog.

00:27:25.360 This one is going to be cutting in line.

00:27:27.420 Congrats on the publish.

00:27:28.680 Well, thank you very much, man.

00:27:29.780 I have that same struggle.

00:27:31.460 You know, the biggest problem I have right now is I have too many friends who are really good at making content.

00:27:38.300 And I'm just buried in all kinds of good content.

00:27:42.180 There are a lot of really thoughtful people who I get to talk to on a regular basis.

00:27:45.400 Many of them I have the privilege of calling friends and they put out just these fantastic books and essays and podcasts and I just can't get through all of it.

00:27:54.000 And I'm still trying to go back and read like I know I need to reread a bunch of stuff.

00:27:57.760 I need to reread Vilfredo Pareto to make sure I understand it better.

00:28:02.160 I need to reread Spangler.

00:28:04.000 So like there's just these giant tomes that I need to reread.

00:28:06.760 I'm trying to get through Heidegger right now.

00:28:08.480 I'm trying to get through being in time.

00:28:09.920 I had to put that one down because I need to go get, you know, think of some more.

00:28:14.460 I'm giving a speech on Machiavelli here soon.

00:28:16.860 I need to refresh myself and all that.

00:28:18.480 So getting through that book backlog is an absolute slog.

00:28:21.060 So I totally get it.

00:28:22.260 I respect it.

00:28:23.200 If you can't get to my book right away, I completely understand.

00:28:25.800 But I appreciate you making space for it because I know how precious time is.

00:28:30.640 And so very thankful that you were willing to pick it up.

00:28:34.220 Let's see here. 0.99

00:28:35.480 Tiny Stupid Demon says, 1.00

00:28:36.780 Well, thanks, man.

00:28:44.920 Yeah, I mean, the good news is that the book is not super long.

00:28:48.060 I do have a reputation for being concise.

00:28:51.360 And I tried to keep that in the book.

00:28:52.780 I tried not to be verbose just for the sake of it.

00:28:55.800 I tried not to fill the pages just to fill the pages.

00:28:58.760 And so it's not an overly long book.

00:29:01.800 But I feel like it does a good job of explaining what it attempts to.

00:29:05.580 And so you can probably get through a good chunk of the chapters in a few sittings.

00:29:11.260 And I'm glad you like it so far.

00:29:14.380 That was the biggest turning.

00:29:16.100 The quote he's talking about there is really from the beginning of the book.

00:29:18.960 It's the introduction.

00:29:19.660 When I kind of looked at what was happening with the lockdowns and everything and just saying,

00:29:24.840 Hey, you know, the Bill of Rights, the Constitution, all this stuff was supposed to save us when this happened.

00:29:31.180 And then nothing happened.

00:29:33.100 And that was the biggest shock.

00:29:34.280 That was kind of the lot of things could be my red pill moment, I guess.

00:29:38.360 You know, whether it's learning about Gamergate or learning about Curtis Yarvin or all these things.

00:29:43.200 But really, I would just say it's staring at the lockdowns and being like,

00:29:47.780 Oh, none of this worked.

00:29:50.060 And now I need to understand what's actually happening.

00:29:52.920 Because the things that I believed are not true.

00:29:55.600 And I need to understand what's true.

00:29:57.780 And that really was that turning point.

00:29:59.640 So thanks.

00:30:00.260 I'm glad you're enjoying it so far.

00:30:03.220 Limplar says, Congrats.

00:30:04.440 Well, thank you, man.

00:30:05.140 I really appreciate it.

00:30:06.020 It was good seeing you at the Skildings event last year.

00:30:09.080 And hopefully you'll be at the OGC event here in June.

00:30:13.600 Looking forward to seeing a lot of you there, just like I did last year.

00:30:20.460 Florida Henry says, Reading is for old people waiting for your audiobook. 0.99

00:30:24.000 Look, yeah, I don't blame you.

00:30:25.460 I read a lot of stuff through audiobooks.

00:30:27.780 So something I do very often is I will listen to something in an audiobook that even though I have the physical copy of it, and then I will go back and make notes through the physical copy.

00:30:38.240 So I'm doing a lot of listening.

00:30:41.600 In fact, believe it or not, I listened to the open letter for open-minded progressives twice.

00:30:47.320 I listened through the whole thing through one of those terrible computer-read automatic voices.

00:30:53.020 Before Skeptical Waves was doing much better versions of this, I was listening to older, much cruder versions of this.

00:31:01.020 And so I'm very familiar.

00:31:03.660 I do a lot of audiobooks because I was in the car or working out or mowing the lawn.

00:31:08.180 And that really helps me get through a large amount of things that I want to read.

00:31:12.560 But I always keep the physical book around if I can, if they exist, so that I'm able to reference things because, you know, you'll be going through it and you'll hear part of an idea.

00:31:20.880 Maybe you'll rewind back to that, but you still want to be able to read it and see it.

00:31:24.560 So maybe it's worth both of them to you.

00:31:26.020 But if not, you can wait for the audiobook.

00:31:27.520 A lot of people have asked me about it.

00:31:29.140 I do know that there will be an audiobook.

00:31:30.940 The way that it works is that they commission an audiobook, and the book has reached a level of sales already where it looks like that's going to happen.

00:31:38.380 So you don't have to worry.

00:31:39.420 It will come eventually.

00:31:40.660 But I just don't have any details on it.

00:31:42.700 Will I read it?

00:31:43.940 When will it come out?

00:31:45.140 I can't give you any definitive answers on that yet because it's still in the process.

00:31:49.160 So if you want to read it, if you want to get it for a while, the only way to be able to do that will be print.

00:31:54.920 At some point, there will be an audiobook, but I'm not sure when that happens.

00:31:57.740 Jerob Cowl says, audiobooks are for dinosaurs waiting for you on your hologram data sim projection.

00:32:06.780 Yeah, absolutely, man.

00:32:07.860 I'll be making the hologram tape very soon.

00:32:12.700 You can have the total state read to you pacing around like a professor or something very manically.

00:32:21.780 Let's see.

00:32:23.480 Alexandra says, thank you for all your big picture streams and killer one-liners.

00:32:27.740 You've inspired a lot of my intellectual exploration.

00:32:30.360 I hope you are the one to narrate the audiobook.

00:32:33.480 Well, thank you very much.

00:32:34.560 I appreciate that.

00:32:35.080 That's incredibly kind.

00:32:36.420 And yeah, like I said, I might be really, you actually end up having to audition for your own audiobook.

00:32:41.660 It's a very weird thing.

00:32:43.100 Most authors are not well-spoken, and that's fine.

00:32:46.540 That's not their job.

00:32:47.600 I do have a job where I speak for a living, obviously.

00:32:50.680 And so it is very likely that I will read my own audiobook.

00:32:54.020 But that's the reason they make you audition for your own audiobook, is a lot of authors are like, well, I'll just read the audiobook.

00:32:59.080 And then it turns out they can't read their own books at all.

00:33:02.280 So I understand how that process works.

00:33:04.520 But I'm not sure yet, like I said, what will happen that's up in the air at the moment.

00:33:08.100 There will be an audiobook.

00:33:09.020 But I don't know if I'll be reading it.

00:33:10.980 I don't know what the timeline will be on that.

00:33:13.260 But I'm very glad that the work was helpful.

00:33:15.660 Like I said, in many ways, I am also the product.

00:33:18.800 I listen to so many of these guys who are formative to my political journey.

00:33:25.100 And so I know what it's like to be trying to figure this all out.

00:33:28.040 And you're feeling your way against the wall.

00:33:30.400 You're in Plato's cave.

00:33:31.460 And all you can see is the images cast on the wall, the shadows.

00:33:36.520 So I get it.

00:33:37.860 And I've been there.

00:33:39.180 And I'm just glad that I could be helpful to you in the same way that so many people were helpful to me.

00:33:44.980 Let's see.

00:33:46.700 Jacob Zendel says, just got a notification for Amazon saying that my copy has shipped, should be delivered to Alaska tomorrow.

00:33:52.860 Fantastic, man.

00:33:53.580 I'm really glad to hear that.

00:33:55.240 Glad they were able to get it all the way up to Alaska at a reasonable time.

00:34:01.240 Like I said, it's had the pre-order for a while.

00:34:04.420 So there might be some lag if you're just ordering it now.

00:34:08.020 But many people are getting their copies today or tomorrow.

00:34:11.500 So I'm very glad that that's getting to you here.

00:34:15.340 Alexander says, was there something that surprised you the most during the bookmaking process, good and bad?

00:34:23.500 Yes.

00:34:24.420 Like I said, I was surprised at how much you have to reread and re-edit your own work.

00:34:29.040 I thought like, you know, two, three passes at most.

00:34:32.880 No, not even close.

00:34:34.620 It's a brutal slog of going over and over and over and over everything with a fine-toothed comb.

00:34:42.100 You always think that there's one.

00:34:43.880 Oh, this is the last cut.

00:34:45.260 No, this is the last, last edit.

00:34:46.880 No, this is the last, last, last, last, last, last edit.

00:34:49.620 I promise.

00:34:50.260 And then your publisher's like, by the way, maybe you should add a chapter here.

00:34:53.420 And by the way, that was great.

00:34:54.480 I'm glad they did.

00:34:55.240 I ended up adding a chapter to the book on Cthulhu and the total state, talking about conquest laws and the shift of organizations over time.

00:35:03.460 I think that was a really key chapter.

00:35:04.920 I'm glad they suggested adding to it so editors can be good.

00:35:07.820 They can help you.

00:35:08.700 It's not just them telling you how bad you are at writing.

00:35:11.720 But, you know, that, that is definitely a slog.

00:35:14.240 I was also surprised at how much I felt like the book wrote itself.

00:35:17.680 That was a big surprise for me.

00:35:19.740 I, I can say I wrote the book, obviously, like I typed the words on, on, on the page.

00:35:25.240 However, in many ways, I felt like the, the narrative was kind of being assembled by the thing I was reading and I just had to get it out.

00:35:32.880 Which I now understand as I talk to other people who've written books, they, that's a pretty common thing, but it's not something I understood at the time.

00:35:39.860 I started writing again as a reporter and I really only wrote, you know, 500 to a thousand words at any given time.

00:35:47.580 That's one of the reasons I'm good at tweeting is because I kind of perfected boiling things down, right?

00:35:53.220 That, that, that the essence of things, that's why journalists are good at Twitter.

00:35:56.320 That's why all journalists are, are Twitter junkies because it rewards their skill set with a large amount of dopamine.

00:36:03.140 Uh, but it doesn't lend itself to larger books.

00:36:06.200 And so I had to learn to expand things and do larger narratives, weave them together.

00:36:11.960 Uh, and that's still a skill in many ways that I'm learning, but it's something that allowed me to kind of, uh, see this book tape, take shape on its own.

00:36:20.180 I did the individual book reports, but then they kind of assembled themselves in a way, as I kind of realized the, the things that were connecting all of these different points in my journey.

00:36:31.820 And really then it was just a matter of me, you know, just typing the words that put it together rather than, than trying to assemble.

00:36:37.880 I didn't, my point being is like, I didn't sit down with an outline.

00:36:40.620 I'm like, here are the 10 things that I need to say in my book, the total state.

00:36:45.180 That's not really what happened.

00:36:46.700 It was a much more organic construction of kind of, uh, what came together for this book.

00:36:55.940 Uh, let's see.

00:36:56.820 Bolero, uh, 393 says, congrats on the release of the book.

00:37:03.740 Amazon says it's going to be here in a couple hours.

00:37:06.780 Will you autograph mine if you bring it to the OGC event?

00:37:09.240 Absolutely, man.

00:37:10.000 I was actually lucky enough to meet Bolero.

00:37:12.360 He came to the Oxford event, uh, that they had.

00:37:16.920 Uh, and so I got to meet him there, which was, uh, very cool or I'm sorry.

00:37:20.920 No, that was narco Republican.

00:37:22.400 I met Bolero at the last OGC event.

00:37:24.400 So he will, or sorry, the, the last skilled things event, uh, that was in Tennessee.

00:37:28.300 So if, if you, uh, come to the OGC event, and this is true, of course, for anybody, I've had a lot of people ask about, uh, signing books.

00:37:35.920 Uh, if you would like me to sign a copy, uh, I will be bringing copies to sell at the OGC event, and I will be signing any of the copies that I sell.

00:37:44.800 Or if you already have your copy, I'm happy to sign it there.

00:37:47.580 Uh, I've had people ask about, uh, like selling just individual signed copies.

00:37:52.180 I have talked about, uh, how to do that with a few different people.

00:37:56.920 I'm not sure if we're going to get that in place for this book, but I will keep people updated.

00:38:02.040 But I will most certainly, I'll be at the OGC event.

00:38:04.860 Uh, I will be at the ISI event in August, and I might be at NatCon as well in July.

00:38:12.960 Uh, so that'd be like Delaware, Washington, D.C., and, uh, and, uh, Tennessee.

00:38:18.640 Uh, so all East Coast, I guess, but if you're near any of those and you want to attend, I'm more than happy to, to sign there.

00:38:26.500 Uh, still wild that that's something anyone wants me to do, uh, but I'm happy to do it.

00:38:30.460 Uh, let's see.

00:38:31.480 Perspicacious Heretic says, looking forward to reading.

00:38:33.700 I've enjoyed your work.

00:38:34.860 Thank you, man.

00:38:35.420 I really appreciate it.

00:38:36.440 You're always in the chat.

00:38:37.500 Uh, you're always, uh, sending out super chats and absolutely appreciate you taking the time to read the book.

00:38:43.540 Uh, let's see.

00:38:44.940 Tiny Stupid Dean says, what a short, what a short, strange trip.

00:38:48.440 It's been amazing what can happen if you can just get a few people to read a few old books. 0.89

00:38:53.500 I mean, it really is the case, man.

00:38:55.260 I, again, I feel like in a lot of ways I'm, I'm cheating or speed running something.

00:39:00.020 All this knowledge was already there.

00:39:01.780 It's already before me in, in a lot of ways.

00:39:04.420 My book is just a summarization of a lot of these works that, you know, people knew existed out in the ether somewhere, but a lot, no one had really pulled together and, and kind of updated and formalized the connection between them.

00:39:17.620 And so I just got to read a lot of really interesting guys and understand the world around me better and, you know, what was happening in politics better and then tell people about it.

00:39:27.780 And so, uh, that, that really is, it, it feels fast because it was fast because in many ways, a lot of this groundwork was already late.

00:39:36.620 And so I'm, I'm very aware of the fact that I am, I'm very lucky to be in this position in this moment, uh, and, and just, you know, be the beneficiary of, uh, a lot of stuff, a lot smarter people have, have gone over, but I'm happy to take my part at least in, in being able to kind of carry that torch, pick that up and, and, you know, go that direction.

00:39:57.040 Uh, Costas 1983 says, just picked up a digital copy.

00:40:03.060 I'll start reading it after the stream.

00:40:04.840 Good luck.

00:40:05.280 Well, thank you very much, man.

00:40:06.400 I appreciate it.

00:40:07.240 It is out on Kindle as well.

00:40:09.000 So if you would prefer to read it in, uh, you know, in electronic form rather than in the, uh, hardback form, of course, you can go ahead and get it in the digital, the, the audio book, like I said, coming eventually, not out yet.

00:40:23.140 Uh, not, hasn't been done yet, but you can choose whether you want to do print or digital.

00:40:27.840 You do have that option at the moment.

00:40:30.880 Let's see.

00:40:31.540 Michael Warmer says, congratulations.

00:40:34.000 I ordered the Kindle version.

00:40:35.500 Can't wait to begin reading it tonight.

00:40:37.180 Do you think there's any value in Karl Marx critique of capitalism, commodication of everything, alienating labor?

00:40:44.500 So, uh, uh, first, thanks.

00:40:46.800 I really appreciate you picking, uh, picking up the book.

00:40:49.340 Of course, when it comes to whether there's value in Karl Marx's critique.

00:40:53.140 Uh, obviously, I think that Karl Marx is recognizing a real phenomenon.

00:40:58.960 Uh, I think that his understanding about the way that the world has shifted, the way that economic production had shifted and the impact that it would have on people, uh, has some validity to it.

00:41:13.840 In a lot of ways, though, he's really, and people don't think of it this way, but it is the case.

00:41:17.840 He's really just a disciple of Adam Smith.

00:41:20.180 If you look and read, uh, you know, a lot of people don't bother to read the wealth of nations or, you know, uh, his book on moral sentiments.

00:41:27.080 And, uh, in a lot of ways, they don't understand that really economics and the, the, the understanding of what was happening in the world.

00:41:33.800 That was Adam's, uh, that, that was really, um, that was really him just understanding a phenomenon that was already underway.

00:41:42.780 Right.

00:41:43.260 Um, that was already a shift in, in the industrial revolution or what would become, you know, the industrial revolution.

00:41:51.100 And Karl Marx is just going further along those lines.

00:41:54.420 Right.

00:41:54.780 And, and so, uh, Karl Marx is in, in many ways, uh, noticing some of the problems that were already talked about in the wealth of nations.

00:42:05.660 However, he obviously takes this into a very bad direction.

00:42:10.660 He makes this entirely material.

00:42:13.280 He understands this as the only force in the world.

00:42:16.200 He makes kind of material production and economics.

00:42:19.060 And it's, this is always the danger guys is trying to make it the grand unifying theory.

00:42:23.020 If you can just understand this, and this of course leads him to horrible conclusions about, you know, uh, the, the revolutions, the proletariat will engage in that actually don't work.

00:42:33.400 Uh, his theories end up being disastrous.

00:42:35.480 His, his theories of, you know, the labor theory of value and, and, uh, and all these things is not, is incorrect.

00:42:42.460 He has to rewrite it himself multiple times.

00:42:44.960 Uh, his understanding of how this will impact politics ends up being wrong.

00:42:48.800 Turns out late capitalism doesn't collapse into, uh, you know, kind of the socialist utopia that he was hoping for, the communism that he was hoping for.

00:42:57.760 In fact, the only states that end up adopting his theories are ones that don't even go through the capitalistic process.

00:43:04.560 So in many ways, Marxism is a disaster, uh, but he does have some critical insights and there have been Marxists who have taken those insights and expanded them in useful ways.

00:43:14.880 Uh, I think the fact that Nick land and others, uh, who eventually became important right-wing thinkers were Marxists beforehand, guys like James Burnham.

00:43:23.400 I don't think that's a mistake.

00:43:24.680 I think that there is some value in understanding some of the critical points made there.

00:43:29.580 Uh, but the difference is really understanding that the, the, the, the problem of dissolving traditional societies is one that Marx just says we should accelerate through instead of understanding that this is a fundamental or break from the kind of the organic life that, that people really should have.

00:43:46.620 And that's actually the biggest problem.

00:43:47.980 Um, let's see, uh, Matt Bell says, I'm a big AA fan for God's sake.

00:43:52.940 Don't let him know.

00:43:53.740 I gave you a fiver.

00:43:55.320 I will not let, uh, AA know that you contributed to the show, that you were supporting my show, man.

00:44:01.740 Don't worry.

00:44:02.440 I'll care though.

00:44:03.260 You know, maybe he can just pay me back with the cigar.

00:44:06.100 You know, that'll be really be the key.

00:44:08.620 Uh, Robert Whitefield says, congratulations.

00:44:11.120 Excited to read and buy the book, audio book when it comes out.

00:44:14.000 Well, thank you, man.

00:44:14.680 I really appreciate it.

00:44:15.640 Uh, you know, I, like I said, I usually get, you know, books in multiple formats, uh, you know, when I'm trying to listen and read as well.

00:44:23.240 So I totally understand that tactic.

00:44:25.500 Uh, Michael Robertson says you should have skeptical waves, be your audio book reader as a joke.

00:44:31.720 Congrats.

00:44:32.220 Or yeah, but I would make him do it in his own voice.

00:44:34.800 Like he can't do it with the computer voice.

00:44:36.580 See, I would make him, uh, actually do it.

00:44:38.820 And then just not, you know, not make it clear to be a deep inside joke only for people in the know, right.

00:44:43.960 That he was the one who was actually reading, uh, the book there.

00:44:47.760 Eric says, even though you describe the effects of, of, of negative things, the fact that you and many others can see it is hopeful.

00:44:54.680 Thanks, Orrin.

00:44:55.500 Yeah, guys.

00:44:56.060 A lot of times I, you know, people will call me a black pillar.

00:44:59.120 You know, I'm, I'm super negative on things.

00:45:01.700 And I always try to explain, uh, that's not the case.

00:45:04.820 Uh, I think that, um, you know, that God is good, uh, that Christ is King, that ultimately, uh, we have hope, uh, for tomorrow because of that.

00:45:14.800 I think that we can live good and productive and meaningful and happy lives, even as the world around us is having difficulty.

00:45:22.580 Uh, look, at least what, if, if you believe in the cyclical view of history, if you think that all people go through civilizational cycles and all civilizations eventually fall, then you have to recognize that like at least a fourth of humanity or maybe a half, if you want to include like the rise up at the beginning of civilizations live in like extremely difficult times.

00:45:45.820 Uh, and look, like people still have meaningful lives in half of history.

00:45:57.700 You can't just write off half of history and be like, well, things are materially difficult or, you know, we having to go through something that's, that's hard.

00:46:04.560 And so therefore no one can be happy and no one can be healthy and no one can enjoy life and no one can build anything meaningful.

00:46:11.300 I just don't think that's true.

00:46:12.480 And so, uh, you know, even though a lot of times I'm talking about why certain systems don't work or why we need to recognize that certain things are coming apart.

00:46:21.660 Ultimately, I hope you understand.

00:46:23.040 The only reason I'm doing that is that I'm looking for solutions.

00:46:25.740 I'm looking for understanding.

00:46:27.180 You can't fix the problem until you understand the problem, but the purpose of understanding the problem is not to sit at the bottom and be like, oh, this is terrible.

00:46:34.960 It's the end.

00:46:35.640 It's all over.

00:46:36.200 There's nothing to be done.

00:46:37.080 You're not trying to paralyze people.

00:46:39.160 You're trying to educate them with the knowledge they need to move forward.

00:46:43.360 And I hope that's what I'm doing.

00:46:44.480 Ultimately, you know, the total state ends on a hopeful note.

00:46:47.440 It ends with me, you know, talking about what I think has to be done and why there's still the possibility of a brighter future.

00:46:55.040 Why there's the ability of people to have good communities, to have faith, to have families.

00:47:00.640 And I hope ultimately that's what comes through when people are reading the book.

00:47:04.580 John Morton says, congratulations on the release of the book.

00:47:09.100 It's great to see.

00:47:11.360 Great to see.

00:47:12.140 And I definitely and I'll definitely be buying it.

00:47:14.460 Well, thank you very much, man.

00:47:15.460 I appreciate it.

00:47:16.460 Again, just lots of people who have supported throughout.

00:47:19.820 And it's it's fun to watch so many people win together.

00:47:23.420 Of course, I have a lot of friends in the content creating sphere.

00:47:26.860 Now, I see a lot of people who, you know, are getting big breaks, getting opportunities and not all of them in media and content creation.

00:47:34.740 Often, you know, they'll find other things that they always wanted to do that they get the opportunity to do because of, you know, a little bit of what they started doing.

00:47:43.040 But it's just that that winning together of community.

00:47:46.000 I see that one of the exciting things about the kind of get together last year in Tennessee was how many organizations have been started, how many groups have been started, how many how much on the ground change had already occurred in just a year.

00:48:02.760 And I hadn't even been at the first one.

00:48:04.320 So I was just seeing it all secondhand.

00:48:06.180 It'll be even more exciting to go to the Old Glory Club meeting this year and really observe that.

00:48:12.500 And so it's nice to see everyone winning together.

00:48:14.960 A lot of people being encouraged.

00:48:16.440 It's not all just happening in streams and books and content creation.

00:48:21.440 A lot of this is happening in the real world as well.

00:48:24.460 And that's incredibly encouraging.

00:48:27.680 Let's see.

00:48:28.460 Alexandra says, Oren begins his book rollout.

00:48:32.220 Christy Noem, most affected.

00:48:34.080 We need to beat Christy Noem.

00:48:35.440 I just want to be clear.

00:48:36.320 I have not killed any of my dogs.

00:48:39.520 If that's not enough for you to buy my book, then I don't know what is.

00:48:43.260 I have not shot any dogs because they disobeyed.

00:48:46.920 I do not think it makes it cool to shoot me cool if I shoot my dog.

00:48:50.600 And so hopefully that means I can I can overtake Christy Noem in book sales.

00:48:56.480 Cherubcow says, congrats.

00:48:57.960 Are you expecting to discuss the book on other podcasts?

00:49:00.480 Thanks.

00:49:00.780 Yes.

00:49:01.000 I have many, many, many appearances already lined up.

00:49:04.880 So I'm going to be I was just did with Benjamin Boyce.

00:49:07.600 I just did Jenna Ellis.

00:49:09.680 I'm going to be on Tipping Point on OAN here in a little bit.

00:49:15.260 I'm going to be doing Eric Metaxas and Dinesh D'Souza.

00:49:19.300 AA is having me on on his podcast.

00:49:22.800 I'm going to be on.

00:49:24.000 I've already been on several podcasts talking about the book that are in our circles.

00:49:28.880 I've been on the American Reformer podcast.

00:49:30.580 So there's I'm going to be all over the place.

00:49:33.300 Just you'll be sick of hearing me.

00:49:36.340 And soon you'll be like, I've already heard about the book 19 times.

00:49:39.380 I don't care about the total state at this point.

00:49:42.120 But, you know, you'll see plenty of me.

00:49:44.880 Don't worry.

00:49:46.620 George Hadouk says ordered at a local shop, which is run by leftists.

00:49:50.140 Even better, man.

00:49:51.260 Well done.

00:49:52.140 I'm glad people are ordering at local bookstores.

00:49:54.300 Look, Amazon numbers are great.

00:49:55.920 Obviously, it drives the algorithm, all this stuff.

00:49:58.280 But the whole point about the total state is we're being driven by algorithms.

00:50:02.480 You know, we're having our humanity stripped away and our ability to create organic communities

00:50:08.320 stripped away by these massive organizations.

00:50:10.500 So while it's great to sell on Amazon and you have to do it at the same time, if you buy

00:50:15.460 it at a local store, that's fantastic.

00:50:17.740 I'm glad.

00:50:18.540 I hope that that's the case.

00:50:19.780 And obviously, if you can order it from a leftist and make them have to like slide that

00:50:23.880 across the table to you, all the better.

00:50:26.340 Let's see.

00:50:26.960 Trey 50 Daniel says, congrats on the book release, Oren.

00:50:30.980 I may do a review of the book on the Trey's Think Tank channel once I've digested.

00:50:36.160 Fantastic, guys.

00:50:36.900 If you are doing a by the way, if you have your own podcast or you have your own sub stack

00:50:41.740 or something like that and you do a review of the book, please let me know, you know,

00:50:46.320 tag me on something on Twitter.

00:50:47.900 I'll be happy to share that out.

00:50:50.600 Same thing.

00:50:51.360 If you of course, if you read the book and you want to leave a review on Twitter, you

00:50:55.460 know, give it the stars, type something out, tell them that you liked it.

00:50:58.540 That makes a big difference as well.

00:51:00.360 So please feel free to do that.

00:51:02.040 And then Van Heer says, still waiting for another 40k or sci-fi stream with Dave, Morgoth, and

00:51:09.460 Last Things.

00:51:10.420 Congrats on the book.

00:51:11.260 I'll pick it up soon.

00:51:12.180 Thank you, man.

00:51:13.460 That does need to happen.

00:51:15.000 You're like the third person just like today to tell me that I need to do a 40k lore stream

00:51:20.120 with Dave and Morgoth.

00:51:21.800 We threatened that when I did my Dune stream with Dave and Morgoth and Last Things, and

00:51:28.320 that does need to happen.

00:51:29.880 Maybe we can get Sargon, Carl Benjamin for that one too, because he's, of course, a 40k

00:51:34.580 fanatic.

00:51:35.180 So I don't know.

00:51:36.340 I'll see what we can do.

00:51:37.860 You're right that I need to do that.

00:51:39.560 The people have demanded it, so I will try to do so.

00:51:43.780 Sorry, we took up so much time with the super chats.

00:51:46.460 I didn't expect there to be that many super chats, so I didn't get to any of the other ones

00:51:50.620 let, yeah, let me see if I can grab a question or two, at least, that people tagged me in.

00:51:58.280 I don't want to just do super chats here.

00:52:01.000 Oh, here we go.

00:52:04.180 Kaiser says, Oren McIntyre, I was politically awakened by Jordan Peterson, but he always made

00:52:10.840 a point of lambasting anyone who pointed to power as a goal.

00:52:15.420 Thank you for explaining to me how power works.

00:52:17.680 Well, thank you, man.

00:52:18.360 I appreciate that.

00:52:19.360 But I, you know, I also was influenced by Jordan Peterson quite a bit.

00:52:24.440 His work helped me out in a very difficult time.

00:52:27.340 And I know that he gets a lot of guff.

00:52:30.160 I know that, you know, people say, oh, well, you know, he doesn't, he doesn't talk about

00:52:34.020 this or he doesn't talk about that.

00:52:35.360 Or, you know, they have critiques of him and I get that.

00:52:38.340 But ultimately, I think Jordan Peterson is a force for good.

00:52:41.120 I think he is saying important things.

00:52:43.400 Maybe he isn't always answering all the questions you hope.

00:52:45.920 Maybe he's not focusing on power.

00:52:47.920 Maybe he's wrong about internet and anonymity.

00:52:50.260 He is wrong about those things, by the way.

00:52:52.380 However, I still think that his work is meaningful and important.

00:52:58.720 Turtle says, Oren McIntyre, recommend getting Wade Stotts for the audiobook narration.

00:53:02.520 That is good.

00:53:03.160 Audio Wade Stotts is great.

00:53:05.340 You should be watching The Wade Show, by the way, if you're not.

00:53:07.680 Also, he did, he did the Christian National book, Stephen Wolf's book.

00:53:12.920 I listened to that on Canon.

00:53:15.220 So I already know that he has the skills.

00:53:18.180 So that's a good recommendation.

00:53:22.720 Let's see.

00:53:23.440 Jackson King asks about Media Tour, if there's any big stops.

00:53:27.080 I already listed some of them.

00:53:28.500 I'm going to be on, like I said, Dinesh D'Souza's podcast, Eric Metaxas, already did a few in our own sphere.

00:53:37.820 Might be some bigger ones coming as soon as I hear about those guys.

00:53:41.540 If there's any of the really big ones, I will give you a heads up as soon as I know about them.

00:53:46.900 But at the moment, those are the ones that I have lined up.

00:53:51.800 The whole machine has just started to kick in gear.

00:53:54.200 These things kind of, you know, you do your first batch and then they kind of invite you to the next one and the next one and the next one.

00:54:01.780 So I imagine you'll have to deal with a couple months of me probably going on and on about this.

00:54:07.440 So have no fear.

00:54:09.600 I'm sure it will be showing up on a few podcasts that you're going to enjoy.

00:54:14.140 I'll be on Steve Dace as well.

00:54:17.060 So make sure that you check those out.

00:54:19.620 All right, guys.

00:54:20.640 So going to go ahead and wrap this one up.

00:54:23.340 Thank you once again, everybody, for coming by.

00:54:26.540 Thank you so much for supporting the channel, encouraging me through all of this.

00:54:31.080 I would not have the book.

00:54:32.380 I would not have the channel.

00:54:33.400 I would not have the show.

00:54:34.560 I would not have the platform without your continued and passionate support.

00:54:39.740 And it's been amazing to see.

00:54:41.560 I'm just incredibly grateful.

00:54:42.880 So thank you.

00:54:44.420 Of course, if it's your first time on the channel somehow on this one celebration stream, make sure that you go ahead and subscribe.

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00:55:15.940 That's the best place to catch anything that ends up getting censored.

00:55:19.420 I've had a few things that have been pulled off YouTube, whatnot.

00:55:22.120 So it's always good to have that Blaze TV subscription because you can read my columns when they come out.

00:55:26.420 And you can go ahead and watch any shows that YouTube doesn't want you to see.

00:55:31.660 And, you know, you never know when they're going to hit you with that stuff.

00:55:33.920 So always good to have that backup plan or always have that outlet so that you can see all of the content that I'm putting out.

00:55:41.040 All right, guys.

00:55:41.680 Thank you so much for watching.

00:55:43.540 And as always, I will talk to you next time.

00:55:46.080 Thank you.

The Auron MacIntyre Show - May 07, 2024

'The Total State' Release Celebration ｜ 5⧸7⧸2024

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