In this episode, Oran Mcintyre talks about the growing problem of teen takeovers in major cities across the U.S. and asks why the media won t talk about it, and why it needs to be talked about.
00:12:25.280uh or blacks in in those crowds they're they're who are making up those crowds so when we see the0.55
00:12:32.360teen take over discussion we're ignoring a pretty significant and important part of who is making up
00:12:40.080these crowds it's not just random teens it's not just the behavior of teens look of course
00:12:46.140teens uh are always angsty i think that's a pretty classic part of uh at least sadly the
00:12:54.200last 70 years but probably not all through history i think it's actually a relatively
00:12:58.360modern invention but classic in the you know i guess in the last 70 years or so
00:13:03.340since uh but teens are having you know rebellious uh they want to get out they need their own space
00:13:09.500They want to meet together. That's pretty common. Even, you know, young men causing trouble. That's always been a factor in many cultures, even, you know, including a white or European cultures.
00:13:21.880You know, there has always been some level of young men needing to prove themselves, often through violence or getting into mischief, these kind of things. That's a reality. Right.
00:13:32.540but we're talking about a different level here yeah these are uh basically race riots
00:13:39.620for lack of a better term it's a bunch of people of one race more or less getting together and just
00:13:47.240lighting things on fire often just beating each other up right like a big part of this is
00:13:52.480the the fights are usually between black teenagers so i mean i've i've been in scenarios you know i've0.67
00:14:00.340been in large crowds in even places like tampa where if you were white you needed to walk in a0.78
00:14:08.140big crowd and you needed to give all of the black crowds a wide berth because i have watched like0.67
00:14:13.520black crowds just pull white guys off the side of the street get picked off alone if they're by0.87
00:14:18.200themselves and just beaten down for no other reason than it was a white guy near a crowd of0.91
00:14:22.760black people in tampa like i have seen that personally uh but in many of these cases the0.71
00:14:27.400violence is mostly directed against other people showing up to the teen takeover so largely black0.95
00:14:33.900on black violence which to be fair if you look at all the statistics when it comes to violence in
00:14:38.480the united states most violence is intra-racial right it's it's between two people of the same0.95
00:14:43.840race uh but the the violence among you know blacks is much much higher even in the intra-racial0.78
00:14:49.360scenario so they are mostly doing violence to each other in this to be fair but still this is0.99
00:14:55.280not something that should be allowed in public like you should be able to go to downtown you
00:14:59.860should be able to go to a chipotle without having to worry that a bunch of teenagers who all
00:15:05.520coordinated on social media are going to run in and start beating each other even if they're not
00:15:10.200beating you even if they're not you know uh ultimately uh uh even if they're not ultimately
00:15:17.160harming you you should still be able to walk in public without expecting to see this and a large
00:15:23.460amount of this is of course the rise of social media you used to at least have to have people
00:15:28.620milling around in certain neighborhoods right that's why neighborhoods tended to be safe or
00:15:33.420unsafe you have a lot of unsupervised young people in an area especially if it's a unfortunately
00:15:38.900minority area you saw a lot more violence there but it was contained to that neighborhood now
00:15:44.180you're seeing a scenario where uh with social media you can get a large crowd of people together
00:15:50.640you can kind of say, hey, there's a takeover here. And, you know, in places where the authorities
00:15:55.960aren't looking or they can't block it, they can't control it. And ultimately, these people are able
00:16:00.860to run in and kind of attack, you know, an area take takeover in literal sense, put so many bodies
00:16:07.720on the street that no one can really do anything. The police don't know it's it's coming. And so
00:16:12.840they have to respond. And they're usually late to response. That usually means you have at least an
00:16:17.880hour maybe multiple hours of a large gathering of you know usually minority or black teens1.00
00:16:24.360all being in one area specifically because they want to do damage either to each other or to the0.60
00:16:30.460property again you saw a lot of fireworks being thrown a lot of cars being danced on you know
00:16:35.420there are people in those cars there are people who are being harassed there are people who are
00:16:39.280trapped there and this brings back those moments you think about those moments uh during blm where
00:16:45.760you had people you know uh white people trapped in their cars and you know blm protesters pulling
00:16:51.620them out and saying you're you're a white person so you're responsible for you know these people
00:16:57.280getting killed you know you have george floyd or whatever whoever they're rioting on behalf of0.94
00:17:03.900whoever whatever violent criminal and drug addict has been sainted uh by the community in that0.86
00:17:09.180moment they're running around and pulling people out of their cars and destroying their cars and
00:17:13.580beating those people, terrified people, calling 911 saying, you know, there's a bunch of rioters
00:17:19.500and they're about to rip us out of our car. What should we do? And 911 just won't respond. The
00:17:24.320cops won't do anything. They're just watching that violence. Now, in a lot of these scenarios,
00:17:28.000we saw the police did respond, right? We do see police tackling people. We do see police showing
00:17:32.420up at riot shields. So it doesn't have exactly the same dynamic. It does seem like there are
00:17:36.880law enforcement people showing up and doing something. It's not exactly like BLM where
00:17:42.940there's just this hands-off mentality just let these people burn it out let them do whatever you
00:17:47.520like uh but ultimately we are still seeing this and we're seeing on a regular basis again you're
00:17:53.620seeing it in states like florida which have good solid republican majorities you know have a
00:17:59.460governor like ron de santis has law enforcement that is generally kind of on the ball and still
00:18:05.320you're seeing these takeovers now again i think florida is taking action but if we're not going
00:18:09.880to talk about this, if we're just going to treat it like it's a teen problem, it's the presence of
00:18:14.100teens being in the area, then we're obviously not getting the whole story. Let me play,
00:18:19.640let's see, Janine Pirro here discussing why Washington, D.C. is not going to be tolerant0.98
00:18:24.460of teen takeovers. And as we grapple with this problem, there is one area that hasn't been
00:18:32.660discussed parental involvement has been a noted gap in any discussion and i am here to say as
00:18:41.460the united states attorney in the district of columbia that ends today starting today
00:18:48.020my office will aggressively prosecute parents under dc's curfew law and the specific statute
00:18:56.020that we will use is a violation of dc code 22-811 and it involves contributing to the delinquency
00:19:06.500of a minor this statute makes it unlawful for an adult to enable facilitate or permit a minor to
00:19:16.180engage in delinquent acts the penalty is up to six months imprisonment so if the evidence shows the
00:19:23.860parent knew or should have known or permitted or failed to prevent participation we're going to
00:19:32.380charge them so the you know the accusation here what we're going to do here is well we're going
00:19:37.720to go after the parents the parents are not supervising these kids and that's why we're
00:19:42.460getting it now again we're just talking about teen it's a problem of parent parental supervision
00:19:46.880uh well probably not actually most most of the teens who are here uh or you know not there
00:19:55.780is are they not there because of the parents i mean maybe maybe i'm sure that there are other
00:20:00.640parents who would be more careful about where their teens are going out and what they're doing
00:20:05.480but it's obviously not just teens in general being unsupervised it's a very specific group
00:20:10.600of teens coordinating online to do this stuff and while i appreciate the idea that they're
00:20:17.900going to go after parents i mean ultimately i support that but it seems pretty flimsy right
00:20:22.120like you're going to have a very difficult time you're going after individual parents proving that
00:20:27.060those parents somehow knew about the takeover and actively contributed uh you know unless unless you
00:20:33.400have like a text saying hey mom going to this teen takeover to beat people up and burn things down
00:20:39.660can you drop me off? I need a ride. Maybe you'll get a few people that way. Maybe they hope that1.00
00:20:46.640just making the threat of possible prosecution will drive this down. But the real problem is
00:20:54.300ultimately that those parents don't care in the first place. In many cases, those parents don't
00:21:00.140know where their kids are ever. So they don't know where their kids are in general. If their kids
00:21:04.820happen to be going to beat people up in a park or in a downtown or in a chipotle well i guess they
00:21:11.520also don't know that but there are people who don't really care like it's not part of their
00:21:16.460culture to have a high level of you know of supervision over your children and know where
00:21:21.220they're going and ensure that their behavior is ultimately something uh that that is good or that
00:21:26.340is you know at least not harmful to the people around them and so they're just not doing that
00:21:31.440Right. And so I hope that works. I'm glad they're trying to take some kind of action, but I'm kind of doubtful that ultimately this is going to solve the problem because you have this epidemic of people coordinating this again online.
00:21:46.980And so if you're going to address this, you have to address when you start to see large crowds of people, especially, let's be honest, of a specific race gathering together to do one of these things on a regular basis.
00:22:00.560And we're being very careful with our language to avoid the fact that all of these teen takers are dominated by really one ethnic group.0.73
00:22:10.720Again, you're seeing some Hispanics.0.63
00:22:12.580I'm sure there's some white kids or something else in there eventually.
00:22:15.040but probably i mean honestly white kid walks into some of those crowds probably getting you know
00:22:20.360messed up real bad so probably not actually probably not a lot of there voluntarily uh but
00:22:26.480but ultimately it's very clear that this is like gang or riot behavior and the again the overall
00:22:34.000crime numbers are down right the overall violent crime numbers are down the overall murder
00:22:39.720numbers are down now there's some question over whether we're still using those biden accounting
00:22:44.460numbers or if a lot of these states are not reporting minority crime like they used to
00:22:49.280because they want to avoid the implications of those statistics.
00:22:52.700But it ultimately is pushing us towards a kind of conclusion about where this crime
00:22:59.760is coming from, who is coordinating, who's involved.
00:23:03.000Now, this obviously reaches into other aspects of crime and culture in the United States.
00:23:07.500So here is Nathan Kofnus, not a guy I'm a huge fan of, but he is willing to talk about
00:23:13.620the realities of racial disparities when it comes to crime. And that's something that not a lot of
00:23:18.460people are willing to do. You know, I don't think I'm telling anybody who's watching the show
00:23:22.840anything new, but it turns out that actually violent crime is disproportionately done by0.97
00:23:29.720black Americans or minority Americans in general, but very specifically black Americans do a large0.98
00:23:36.920amount of the crime, a radically disproportionate per capita amount of crime in the United States.0.99
00:23:43.200If you remove Black-initiated crime in the United States from your crime statistics, the crime in America starts to look a lot more like the crime in Europe, right, which is something you wouldn't be shocked to find.
00:23:55.380But that's a really uncomfortable discussion to have for a lot of people because obviously there are some very serious implications tied to this.
00:25:19.480If you believe in differences between men and women, and we should all be reality enjoyers here, you know, we don't believe men and women are the same.1.00
00:25:27.120That's why we don't think the transgender stuff was real. Right.1.00
00:25:29.720That's why we don't think that that's a true explanation, that if you just rearrange, mutilate some body parts, or if you dress differently and try to raise your voice or take some hormones, that you become a woman, right?
00:25:41.660And so we understand that men are stronger than women.0.79
00:25:44.120They're also more violent than women.0.65
00:25:47.580The nature of men are protectors and they were out there to kill that which tried to kill the tribe.0.67
00:25:54.460They were out there to kill animals and bring them home, hunters.
00:25:58.780you know the men were built to do the violent role when it comes to the human species well if1.00
00:26:06.060you look at the crime numbers you'll see that for when it comes to violent crime black women are0.93
00:26:12.900either just as likely or just a little less likely it depends on what numbers you're looking some put0.96
00:26:17.700it a little higher some put a little lower some put it about the middle but generally they are
00:26:21.880around the same crime rate as white men so that that male female gap in violent crime which is
00:26:30.660very wide suddenly disappears when you compare white men to black women because the instances
00:26:38.360of violent crime even among black women are extremely high other people will blame it on
00:26:43.420poverty right they'll say oh well it's it's it's the the socioeconomic factors right like that's0.97
00:26:48.700what it is crime causes poverty but if you look at the numbers uh you know well well off black
00:26:55.780people or at least like middle class black people also have higher elevated numbers than many
00:27:02.500lower income white communities so even when we look at the economics when we look at the gender0.97
00:27:08.620gap uh you know it still matters right like black men do more crime than black women and rich black
00:27:15.640people do less crime than poor black people but when you start comparing you know middle income0.97
00:27:22.500blacks to poor whites or you start comparing men white men to black women you see that actually0.59
00:27:31.600those statistics kind of even out and all of a sudden that idea that it's just the gender or0.94
00:27:37.700it's just the money disappears right like we start to see a consistent pattern even when it's black0.74
00:27:44.120women even when it's you know black people who are earning a decent income we still see the higher0.54
00:27:50.060levels of violence now there are probably many compounding factors involved in there and culture
00:27:55.120is is definitely one of them but we see this result over and over again however you want to
00:28:00.040explain it it's not enough to simply say well uh you know it's just a generic problem with teens
00:28:06.340it's a generic problem with men it's a generic problem with poverty no it's not unfortunately
00:28:11.860That would be a lot easier for everybody if it was. But when we look at the statistics, when we start comparing about these, like, ultimately, we see this over and over again. Now, again, culture, you know, the family, absentee fatherhood, these are all huge factors, right? And maybe it's all contained in there.
00:28:30.320but ultimately i think you have to look at the cold hard facts and say there seems to be even
00:28:37.460when we rearrange economics even when we rearrange gender a consistent problem with violence when it
00:28:42.780comes to black americans and it doesn't do anyone any good to use these euphemisms it's not about
00:28:48.660the scholars it's not about you know changing consumer habits it's not about teens yeah and
00:28:54.960Kaufness is right to point this out. Just as an aside, just a personal experience to add an
00:29:02.120anecdote to the data. I remember distinctly, I had just gotten out of school at USF in Tampa.
00:29:09.120I graduated from the University of South Florida. And if you've ever been to USF, if you've ever
00:29:13.560been around there, it's famous. I posted about this on Twitter and it's a ton of people from
00:29:17.160Tampa being like, man, I know exactly what you're talking about. And everybody who's been there
00:29:20.780knows exactly what you're talking about but there's this mall that is right next to usf
00:29:25.880university square mall uh and that mall even has like deals with the university uh i don't know if
00:29:32.620they still do this but they used to like bus large classes in the move into the movie theater
00:29:37.600you know if you had these these huge you know biology 101 or early math classes or something
00:29:43.300where you need to put a large amount of people into any given class they would just rent a movie
00:29:48.220theater and take all of the people there and they would teach the class in the movie theater
00:29:51.360so this is right next to usf this is right next to the biggest uh college in that area uh one
00:29:58.100that's that's pretty important you know for the economics and that mall was uh obviously
00:30:04.640not doing well and i had a buddy actually a very nice progressive jewish guy uh funny enough and
00:30:12.020he had also just graduated and he was getting his first job and his job was in market research
00:30:18.020and so you know we both had gotten our first job we were still in the area and he is working for
00:30:24.540a company that's doing market research for university square mall and as he's doing that
00:30:30.080research uh you know he's kind of getting more and more distraught and one day uh when when we're
00:30:36.220hanging out he kind of turns to me and he says you know orrin i just don't know how to tell my1.00
00:30:42.260company that the mall is attracting too many black people and it's making it unsafe and the
00:30:47.800theft is going up and so people don't want to go there anymore and like he was having a true crisis0.56
00:30:53.960like this is this is a progressive guy right like this this is a very progressive jewish guy like he0.61
00:30:59.860he does not want to notice these things he doesn't want to say these things uh these this this goes
00:31:04.760against his beliefs uh but ultimately as a market researcher as a guy who has to look at the data
00:31:10.780and look at what's going on here there's no other thing he can conclude like this is the sad reality
00:31:17.660of what's happening to the mall but he probably doesn't need to tell the people who own the mall
00:31:24.480that they probably already know because they have eyeballs they can see what's happening in the mall
00:31:30.360they look at the arrest reports they look at uh you know the who's loitering they look at the stores
00:31:36.220that are going out of business and which ones are still thriving and they tend to be the ones that
00:31:40.660are catering to the tastes of black Americans like they could see that shifting inside the mall0.80
00:31:46.000so I'm sure they knew all this before they even hired this guy to do it but of course they don't0.97
00:31:51.400want to say it they don't want to acknowledge it they don't want to acknowledge what's going on
00:31:55.240why the mall is becoming unsafe why it's being you know its numbers are being driven down remember
00:32:01.240this is decades and decades ago this is before Amazon this is before you know the the retail
00:32:06.600great retail uh you know shutdown of covid and uh all this stuff this this is 20 years ago at this
00:32:14.200point so this is before the the huge retail crisis you can't blame this on online shopping and covid
00:32:21.240and all those things this is pre all that and still that that was the state of the mall right
00:32:28.240and so i'm sure they hired him knowing where you were at and why how you got here but they didn't
00:32:33.860want to say it so they're hoping if they paid someone else either they would say it or they'd
00:32:37.820get an alternative explanation they can blame and to be honest i never talked to him again uh about
00:32:43.240that so i don't know what he did i don't know if he was honest with them about his conclusions if
00:32:48.240he made up something else if if he was honest and they ultimately took uh you know that that to heart
00:32:53.640i'm sure they didn't because from what i've heard i haven't been to university mall in a long time
00:32:57.620when i go to tampa i'm not going to university mall but from what i've heard it's only gotten
00:33:01.320worse. It's actually just gotten much, much worse since I was there. And so you have a scenario
00:33:09.060where like everybody knows what's going on. Everybody knows the problem with the university
00:33:12.880mall, but the police don't want to deal with it because it makes them racist. And the mall doesn't
00:33:16.860want to deal with it because it makes them racist. And the media doesn't want to talk about it
00:33:20.160because it makes them racist. And so everyone is kind of playing hot potato with this reality,
00:33:25.980hoping that someone else gets caught having to say the quiet part out loud, hoping that someone
00:33:30.600else has to acknowledge reality. Everybody knows reality. It's not hidden. The market research
00:33:36.740shows it. The economics show it. The arrest records show it. Your eyeballs show it.
00:33:44.800But everyone needs someone else to say it. And even then, they kind of probably need to act
00:33:49.540as if they're shocked. Now, obviously, malls have had a much more serious problem.
00:33:55.580And I want to be clear here, before I get into the mall issue, I don't think it's the best that we needed malls to become a third space for predominantly teenagers, right?
00:34:10.020Like one of the reasons that malls became so popular when I was a kid is that there really weren't a lot of places that teenagers were allowed to spend time unsupervised.
00:34:21.200most of the third what we call third places not home not work or school in the case of a teenager
00:34:27.660but but another place that wasn't your house where you're being supervised your parents wasn't your
00:34:33.800work or school where you're being supervised by teachers or by employers but a third place where
00:34:38.800people can gather right and we used to have a lot more of these we used to have a lot of these shared
00:34:43.140spaces uh you know parks uh we used to have uh you know different organizations that would host
00:34:48.960gatherings. You had a lot more freedom for people to be out and them out in cafes and all these
00:34:54.700things. There was a culture being in coffee houses and meeting places. And you were able to go out
00:35:00.740and be a teenager. Now, sometimes in many cases, people did get into trouble, right? Like there
00:35:07.320are these things, you know, I don't know about you, but when I was a teen, kids would get together,
00:35:11.220go to these bonfires in the woods where they'd be unsupervised. And sometimes they would do stupid0.99
00:35:16.360stuff there uh you know again it's not like there's not there hasn't been even in in all you0.97
00:35:21.940know races and cultures some level of like teams need to get in some place to like you know be
00:35:27.140unsupervised and to get in trouble uh that that that has existed for a very long time uh but we're
00:35:32.800seeing like the constant concentration of that and the escalation of that behavior in these different0.85
00:35:39.120populations very specifically many of the black populations and so when i was a kid i don't think0.97
00:35:44.140it was good that malls became the third place because in many ways obviously like it's a0.89
00:35:50.280monument to consumerism the fact that the reason you were allowed to be in a mall is you were there
00:35:55.820to buy stuff you couldn't just stay in one store you basically you'd go and you would walk from
00:36:02.460store to store with your friends you get a group of your friends together and you would all just
00:36:06.400kind of drift in every out of every store and if you as long as you kept walking and as long as you
00:36:12.300were buying something every once in a while you know they weren't going to harass you they weren't
00:36:16.220the short stores weren't going to run you out they weren't going to get you for loitering that
00:36:20.180kind of thing and so it allowed you to kind of hang out with your friends spend some time together
00:36:24.420unfortunate like that going out and spending money you're just buying random stuff at a mall
00:36:31.320was the only way that you could bond together was the only time you had a lot of these spaces so i
00:36:37.760want to make that clear i'm not like worshiping the mall i'm not nostalgic for the mall as the
00:36:42.280ideal form of like social cohesion and place where you could find yourself as a team. Like
00:36:48.440that's not what I'm saying here. However, even a mall actually requires a certain level of trust
00:36:55.800in society. Even though the mall being a third place is kind of a, uh, is itself a marker of
00:37:02.080decline? Is itself already a signal that something is wrong with your society, that you have to make
00:37:07.920this uh you know the place that you gather even though that's the case it still required a certain
00:37:13.820level of trust shared expectation cultural expectation when we're in public there's a way
00:37:19.720we behave even as teenagers even as teenagers that want to you know have some fun and be goofy
00:37:25.220and maybe do some things we wouldn't do around our parents ultimately you're not crossing the
00:37:29.980line into like complete violence you're not crossing the line into stealing stuff burning
00:37:35.280things down, uh, you know, uh, fighting in the middle of the mall. Like once that stuff starts
00:37:40.360happening, you got bounced real quick. And so you knew you had to maintain a certain level of
00:37:45.660behavior to continue to be a teenager in the mall. There was a shared understanding of how you had
00:37:52.300to conduct yourself, even in a group of relatively unruly teenagers, there were still certain
00:37:57.340barriers you just did not cross if you wanted to be able to stay in that area.
00:38:01.540and so now you have this scenario where the teens the the specifically african-american teens
00:38:14.160are moving into these places because they really don't have any other third spaces to go
00:38:19.060and more and more you have other ethnicities that just don't want to be there especially
00:38:24.120white people they just don't they don't go to those malls anymore because they know that0.99
00:38:28.180they're not welcome, that the space is going to be unpleasant, that there's a fair amount of
00:38:34.780likelihood that they could be harassed just because of the color of their skin. And ultimately,
00:38:39.620they know that if there is bad behavior and they start pointing it out, that they're going to get
00:38:45.640in trouble. I'll never forget when I went to a movie theater one time with someone, and there
00:38:52.980was a whole bunch of black people in you know the first few rows and they were behaving really badly1.00
00:38:59.040like they weren't just uh you know a little loud or something they weren't just uh you know uh you0.99
00:39:06.100know on their phones or something like they were throwing things at each other uh they were sitting
00:39:10.220in people's seats and refusing to move because this was when they started giving people you know
00:39:14.480the the uh assigned seats in the movie theater and they wouldn't get up uh you know and it got
00:39:19.960to the point where the people i was with they said specifically we just can't go to that mall
00:39:24.840anymore because we can't tell those people to move like they're in our seats and we can't tell
00:39:29.620them to behave we can't complain to the attendance we can't tell those people to move and so they
00:39:35.040just decided never good to go back to this movie theater movie theater is perfectly nice it was
00:39:39.660modern it wasn't run down none of that at the time now not so much right but at the time like it was
00:39:45.640it was a movie theater in good standing but because you had enough of a concentration of
00:39:49.960a population that you felt like you couldn't interact with that if you if you brought up the
00:39:55.740issue that they were behaving badly you would be a racist if you ask them to be escorted out you
00:39:59.820would be a racist if you went up to them and asked them to stop behaving that way or to get out of
00:40:03.540your seat they might start a fight and if they started a fight you'd be the one in trouble right0.61
00:40:07.380if that goes on social media oh white guy goes up to a black guy and tells him he needs to move out0.83
00:40:11.620of his seat. You're going to be the evil guy telling Rosa Parks to get to the back of the bus0.94
00:40:16.400on social media 10 minutes later and probably catch a beating from a bunch of people who are
00:40:21.000very angry about you doing it. And so rather than correct this behavior, enforce those social
00:40:26.400standards, right? This is the key. This is what social fabric comes from. Social fabric comes from
00:40:31.960informal enforcement. And that's the problem with Janine Hero there, right? Again, I'm sure she's0.99
00:40:37.960doing her best. I'm like, I'm not trying to attack her in this specific case, but I'm just saying
00:40:42.000this is ultimately why this doesn't end up working because real social cohesion, real high trust
00:40:48.320societies come from that inherent enforcement. People don't sit in your seat because they know
00:40:54.160that it's bad manners, but also they know that the people around them are going to be very angry and
00:41:01.060perturbed if they start getting crappy with you over trying to take over that seat. If you show
00:41:07.840up and you say, hey, that's my seat. And the 15 people around them say, actually, it's our seat
00:41:12.640now. What are you going to do about it? And no one says anything. Well, they're in charge. But if you
00:41:17.700show up to that seat and everyone around them says, hey, man, yeah, that's his seat. You need to get
00:41:22.520out of it. And if they start trying to fight you, all those people say, what are you doing? Like,
00:41:26.180get out of here. Go get the people running this place. And in the meantime, we're going to protect1.00
00:41:32.760that person like if that's the response no the person with the ticket is in the right then you
00:41:38.500maintain that high trust right because if that's the default okay we are going to behave this way
00:41:45.320and everyone around us is going to notice that we need to behave this way and so if you violate that
00:41:51.660no matter what we're going to attack that violation and the people in charge are going to side with us
00:41:57.040the police are going to side with the high trust society the runners of the movie theater they're
00:42:02.500going to side with that expectation then you don't get that but when you flip it and you say actually
00:42:08.280there's a class of people who can go into a movie theater they can behave really badly they can
00:42:15.500ignore the rules and if you try to correct them you're going to be at fault and everyone's going
00:42:20.600to back them when they violate the rules and the people in charge they're going to be too scared
00:42:25.260to enforce the rules or they're going to blame you too well now we broke it down right now there
00:42:29.420is no trust. Now the society can no longer have these self-enforcing rules. And then there's only
00:42:35.160two options. Either you crack down on everybody, which is the Jeanine Pirro option, right? This is
00:42:41.120the anarcho-tyranny. We're going to make more rules. We're going to create more restrictions
00:42:46.060in order to, you know, by saying everybody needs to follow him, even though we know it's a specific
00:42:51.780group in a specific place causing this problem. It's more rules for everybody so that we can try
00:42:57.840to catch the people who are doing it wrong by creating more rules or you get the white flight
00:43:02.580people move away people say i'm not dealing with this like if i'm in this area and i'm going to be
00:43:08.960targeted i'm going to be a victim of these people with no back from you know anyone around me if
00:43:16.060that's going to be the case then i'm just moving out of this area i'm not going to that movie
00:43:18.860theater anymore i'm not living in that neighborhood i'm not sending my kids to that school because i
00:43:22.900know that there's two standards one for my kid one for my behavior the one we expect as people
00:43:28.800who want a high trust society and then there's another set of rules for the special class
00:43:33.140that can't be told no that can't be corrected that won't be arrested because of their behavior
00:43:38.600because it's going to be some kind of social sin for us to correct them when you have that
00:43:44.160double standard when you have that two-tier system then people are either gonna like i said
00:43:51.320have just these draconian attempts to like lock down everything or they're just going to give up
00:43:56.240and flee right and then it's your fault oh white flight you it's implying that you are somehow
00:44:00.840at fault for fleeing because you're like a racist or something not because your neighborhood suddenly0.91
00:44:06.220you know went sideways not because you can't live in the place that you live for generations not
00:44:12.380that your family who built up those areas and has been a part of contributing them for decades or
00:44:17.280centuries is suddenly now getting run out of town so that another class of people who don't have to
00:44:21.700live by those rules get to control them. No, no, no. It's your fault for fleeing, right? And we can
00:44:27.660see this yet again here. So this one is particularly insane. So if you're not familiar, this technology
00:44:34.820called gunshot detection, right? The shot placement. I've actually been in exactly these
00:44:42.560type of meetings when i was a local reporter i covered uh you know when these systems were being
00:44:47.480put in and they were being installed you guessed it right near our martin luther king jr boulevard
00:44:53.180right and when i you know went to these meetings it was you know it was not as woke back then when
00:44:58.960i was covering these meetings but it was same kind of concerns were brought up if we put these shot
00:45:03.940detection systems and what it is basically a series of microphones that can triangulate
00:45:07.860where a shot comes from right so if you're in a if you're in a uh dangerous community uh and a
00:45:15.280gunshot goes off then the microphones around the area pick up that loud sound and they can triangulate
00:45:22.000where the shot came from pretty accurately and the police can then narrow it down and investigate
00:45:26.980that area figure out who was in the area at the time where the crime might have taken place who
00:45:32.240might have been involved, right? And so these systems have become very popular because they
00:45:38.160really help to nail where these violent crimes are occurring and track them down. The problem,
00:45:43.000as you might expect, is that they tend to reveal that most of the people shooting people are0.98
00:45:49.420black, right? Or at least minority of some kind, but generally black, again, just looking at0.97
00:45:55.200statistics. And so you have the scenario where everyone knows why the gunshot system is in the
00:46:03.260neighborhood in the first place. Everybody knows why. And so the people at this council meeting
00:46:08.900are literally arguing, we can't have this system because it identifies more crime for minorities.0.99
00:46:14.980Like these are progressive activists. They know that's where the crime is. They know why the system1.00
00:46:19.560is being installed in this neighborhood, but they're actively saying we have to get rid of1.00
00:46:23.760system because it reveals too many people who are minorities are doing the crime i do not consent
00:46:31.600for my vulnerable neighbors in our welcome community sanctuary city to be at risk and0.58
00:46:37.920to make sure we hear from neighbors more directly impacted than i am i will also be sharing a
00:46:43.120recorded note from a putnam gardens resident he's unable to be here but feels that shot
00:46:49.040ShotSpotter's surveillance puts him and his family at risk.
00:46:56.480I love that she just recorded it in Spanish.
00:46:59.640Like, just, just, we're not even kidding, right?1.00
00:47:01.680Like, obviously, probably a legal immigrant, doesn't speak any English, can't even talk about it.0.96
00:47:05.780But it's very angry that, like, people in his neighborhood are being singled out for violent crime because they're doing violent crime.0.94
00:47:19.040And this puts black and brown communities in Cambridge in very real danger.
00:47:23.920The BIPOC members of the Cambridge community are more likely to be recorded by ShotSpotter.0.98
00:47:28.740Why? Why are minorities more likely to be recorded by ShotSpotter?
00:58:48.580But the unfortunate problem is they're a minority.0.99
00:58:51.940they're a minority of a minority of a minority and again god bless them for it it's it can't be
00:58:57.620easy to get up in front of people who have been told their whole lives that they have a free pass1.00
00:59:03.920for that kind of violence who you are part of in some way their community and tell them you need
00:59:09.120to do better and you know we we deserve to have a safe environment that means we need to crack down
00:59:14.700on bad behavior in our community that cannot be easy but again it's just not enough and that's
00:59:19.160not their fault you know god bless them you know absolute absolute pillars of their community if
00:59:24.820their community would allow it but unfortunately they are usually not in fact most cases they're
00:59:29.220called uncle toms they're called traitors and they have to fight against that every day and
00:59:33.600again can't be easy god bless them for having the courage uh but what we're seeing is is a larger0.99
00:59:38.480problem and we can't wait around for the larry elders or the jason whitlocks to convince people
00:59:43.620that this needs to be taken seriously again fantastic people but they can't do it alone
00:59:47.960Right. Like it's clearly not enough. We have to be able to speak more frankly about this. We need to adjust civil rights law so that we can actually address these issues. So it's not illegal to apply the law equally. I'm fine with equal treatment under the law. I support equal treatment under the law, but we don't have it. That's absolutely not what we have in our society. And until we fix that, teen takeovers are going to be the least of our problems.
01:00:13.000all right guys let's head to the questions of the people here we have quite a bit today
01:00:18.880let's see sean wyland says pub med on the two repeat a la over maoa covers this uh i'm sorry
01:00:35.440but i have no idea what that means there's a lot of there's a lot of abbreviations that i i don't
01:00:43.000Maybe I should know, but, uh, sorry, I don't quite understand that one. Sorry, man.
01:00:49.720All right. Um, the real Justin says, uh, my fatigue is fatigued. Yeah. I think everyone
01:00:57.940is pretty tired of this one. Uh, cherry Coke Nixon says teen takeovers in the U S teen
01:01:04.780grape gangs in the UK and Germany. Things are worse. No matter elections. I don't see any
01:01:10.420end in sight feels over well look man i look first you're right that unfortunately this phenomenon is
01:01:15.780not just in the united states right we have uh the same thing when it came to the uk they just
01:01:19.900ignored the fact that most of the people uh you know sexually assaulting women in that area were
01:01:26.560all of one ethnicity and one religion uh and so they you know lied about it they use euphemisms
01:01:32.340very very similar behavior um i will say i don't think you should black pill on this too much not
01:01:38.700because this isn't difficult not because this isn't something that has to get addressed but i
01:01:44.120think there are just more people willing to talk about this man like if you if you look at what's
01:01:49.100happening in the uk right now uh restore britain uh rupert lowe they are not pulling their punches
01:01:55.280on who is doing this right like they are being very very clear yes the government's cracking
01:01:59.660down as much as they can but they are being very clear now about the problem they're they're they're
01:02:04.120not holding back. The attempt to contain that discussion was so obvious that they actually just
01:02:11.080basically blew right past kind of restore or reform Britain. Sorry, I wish they hadn't named
01:02:17.760the party so similar. It's hard to keep them straight. But they blew right past Nigel Farage
01:02:22.380and his like fake opposition. And in the United States, while we're still having trouble discussing
01:02:27.820this, more and more people aren't, right? Like, you know, Jason Whitlock has done shows on why
01:02:33.260MLK was not actually some kind of a great, uh, Christian American black leader. I've done shows
01:02:40.460on that, uh, John Doyle. So just three people on the blaze have done series shows about, you know,
01:02:46.840I've talked about the civil rights movement and it's dangers, uh, you know, and now Matt Walsh
01:02:50.860has come out with like a series on this at the daily wire. So, I mean, can you imagine 10 years
01:02:56.280ago, uh, you know, the daily wire and the blaze running multiple episodes across multiple hosts0.51
01:03:02.180about black crime about civil rights movements martin luther king how much of this is fake
01:03:08.220how much of this is you know a smoke screen i don't think you could man so i think things have
01:03:13.740changed radically so i wouldn't black bill i think actually as as difficult as some of this is as
01:03:19.660annoying or not annoying but frankly dangerous as some of this is ultimately i think we are getting
01:03:26.460to the point where people are having these conversations and they are normalizing the
01:03:30.020ability to recognize what's going on. Nixon also says time for midnight basketball programs. Yeah.
01:03:37.700Give the kids something to do. Give the teams, the teens something to do. Nixon also says team
01:03:42.980issues were minor before Obama's awakening. Uh, that's just not true. I, I'm sorry. I like, this
01:03:49.380is, this is a little bit of false history and you know, I love, I love you cherry Coke Nixon. Uh,
01:03:53.540but, but I think that that's not exactly correct. I mean, I remember the Rodney King riot. I
01:03:59.780remember many many of these riots unfortunately you know this is something we tend to ignore uh
01:04:06.160you know oj all this stuff like race riots have been a pretty consistent part of american history
01:04:11.400specifically black race riots have been a pretty consistent part of american history especially
01:04:16.260since the 1950s and 60s um we tend to sweep them under the rug we tend to pretend that it hasn't
01:04:22.700uh but that they they they might have upticked after obama i'll give you that but i think they
01:04:28.920were always a problem he says teens don't fear jail time and want your bus seat uh unfortunately
01:04:35.620that is true there is a normalization of being a felon prison time often that culture sometimes
01:04:40.760glorified look i remember when i was teaching and i taught a minority majority minority school
01:04:45.700and i was teaching um civics so one of the things we discussed is you know what is the difference
01:04:51.940between a misdemeanor and a felony because they're learning about the criminal justice system
01:04:55.140and when i explained the difference i had multiple uh minorities in my class say oh
01:05:02.520my dad is a felon and so they started comparing the different felonies of their dads and what
01:05:10.980job they did in prison i promise i'm not making this up like there was a spontaneous oh yeah my
01:05:16.360dad's a felon my dad's a felon too cool man what's your dad in for oh yeah that's cool
01:05:20.740what what job what what job did you have when he was in prison oh he's still in prison he's doing
01:05:25.840this right now oh okay oh well how long is he and they're like they're like competing to see whose
01:05:30.560dad had the longest uh record in prison like who who was who who had the most days the most years
01:05:36.720served in prison that was like some kind of badge of honor like these are the classes i taught i am
01:05:41.680not making this up i promise you know i will swear on stacks of bibles that this is actually
01:05:46.820what happened so it's pretty wild out there uh nixon also says can't escape to the suburbs since
01:05:53.860obama era housing policy moved many teens to once to once safe towns in every major metro along with
01:06:00.380costco shoppers okay now this part is true right there has been and and this is like the history
01:06:06.440of white flight um you know people have talked about this uh jack sobek has talked about this
01:06:11.120again major figures are talking about this guys this is less and less of a secret uh jeremy carl
01:06:16.320guy who was up for a job in the administration, wrote a book that talked about this in part.
01:06:22.640Nick Land has explained this phenomenon in The Dark Enlightenment. The white flight, the moving
01:06:28.760away was an attempt to flee kind of the influx of this behavior and the double standards and0.83
01:06:33.900the violence and everything that came with it. And then Barack Obama said, oh, well, we can't have
01:06:38.960any of those white people in their towns being safe. We have to because they're being racist,0.93
01:06:44.080Like they moved away because they're racist and they rebuilt nice towns somewhere else in the suburbs or whatever.
01:06:49.380We need to start moving these people in.
01:06:52.060You'll notice that when they started dropping like these these communities of Haitians or Somalis or these people, they kept dropping them in these like predominantly white out of the way areas.0.99
01:07:03.340And when they start doing that, it's not a mistake.0.91
01:07:09.000And so, yeah, I think it's true that, you know, they change the housing laws, the zoning laws.
01:07:13.080so you can't restrict the types of homes that many lower people come into that attract many
01:07:17.660minorities and create much of the same chaos and so there's this constant attempt uh you know as
01:07:23.740nick land would say you know it's it's exit these people are choosing exit over voice because the
01:07:27.880voice isn't working anymore it's too dangerous to say hey if a bunch of people move in who are0.55
01:07:33.680low income they tend to be from certain minorities and the certain minorities tend to be more violent
01:07:38.200and then my area becomes more violent and i can't let my kids play outside and i can't send to the1.00
01:07:42.220school and now all of a sudden i need to start a private school and i need to move into a gated
01:07:47.060community to get away from the violence and actually it's just easier to move out of town
01:07:51.020and so there's just like this constant chasing of people who are trying to be in safe areas
01:07:56.700and unfortunately they recognize that when demographics shift the areas become less safe
01:08:02.500and so rather than discuss that issue they keep trying to flee and then the government just
01:08:07.040mandates that actually you have to have them there you have no other option you can't flee
01:08:12.160You're not allowed to build your own thing. You're not allowed to exclude any, you know, any type of housing or any social arrangement that might ultimately disproportionately exclude those people. And so we see this time and time again.
01:08:24.500uh jacob zindell says i worked at a retail as a retail clerk in anchorage uh in anchorage
01:08:32.820arkansas okay i didn't know there was an anchorage arkansas east anchorage high school is actually
01:08:37.020the number one most diverse in the u.s and we had dozens of teenagers hit us yep i mean again i
01:08:43.080worked at minority majority majority minority school and those were the dynamics man like
01:08:49.260you knew that if you were a white kid in that school you need to be very careful about where
01:08:54.080you were at all times who you were hanging with what groups uh there was there could be flash
01:08:59.520violence against you uh that a lot of these kids felt empowered to like just say really racist
01:09:04.260stuff to white kids on a regular basis i would go to the principal with it the principal wouldn't do
01:09:08.620anything i mean it's bad it's bad in those places and then it's oh well why aren't white kids in
01:09:14.480those schools i mean you don't have to be a rocket scientist everybody knows everybody knows the
01:09:19.760answer to this question and everybody pretends they don't because it's just really uncomfortable
01:09:24.500but we can't pretend anymore we have to talk about it i know it makes people uncomfortable
01:09:27.820people are going to call me mean names i don't care i don't care anymore we gotta we gotta keep
01:09:32.140people safe we it's the hour's too late we can't dance around this anymore nixon also says changing
01:09:38.160consumer habits from mcdonald's to costco yeah for people who don't know that catchphrase uh there
01:09:43.060was a story that all of these fast food places were removing kind of the soda fountain, the
01:09:50.560self-serve soda fountain out in the common area, right? And this is a similar trend we're seeing
01:09:55.460across the board. So for a while, what businesses were doing is that they were shifting the burden
01:10:02.020out of the consumer, right? So they said, oh, well, we could fill all these drinks or we can
01:10:07.820just put the soda fountain out there and make the customer do it. And in many cases, the customer
01:10:11.980prefers it because they don't have to explain it to uh the worker and they can decide if they want
01:10:16.500more you know they can go back and get free refills and they don't have to talk to the the
01:10:20.700guy every time and bother them so it's fine and we saw the same thing with like vending machines
01:10:25.540and uh self checkouts and all this stuff like people shifted their infrastructure to put
01:10:31.440basically to get the customer to do the work that employees used to do and it saved the company
01:10:37.020money. And because we were a relatively high trust society at the time, you could do that.
01:10:42.040Like you would expect most people to just swipe their own groceries and mostly pay for it and
01:10:46.440not try to steal. You could expect people to get a reasonable amount of soda or not go up and like
01:10:51.460say, oh, I want a cup of water and then go fill it with soda, you know, get the cup of water for
01:10:55.600free and then fill it with something that shouldn't be free. Like you didn't see people abusing those
01:11:00.520systems over and over again. But over time, we see the shifting demographics of people who maybe
01:11:06.960aren't so careful with that. Don't see that as a problem. Maybe some people see that as an
01:11:12.480advantage. And by the way, I'm not just talking about black Americans here. There are plenty of
01:11:17.120new Americans from other places where scamming is considered a bonus. I'm so smart for avoiding to0.71
01:11:22.920pay what I owe people. And there's nothing morally wrong with that. You're a sucker if you're not
01:11:27.820doing that and so there's been a large demographic change and from that we start to see headlines0.94
01:11:33.120about changing consumer habits and that's why we're pulling all this back it's because the
01:11:37.880habits of the consumer has changed they don't want the big soda anymore or something some some
01:11:42.900excuse right and again everyone can kind of see that cover-up Bruce Jinder says Oren you're all
01:11:52.360about not using your enemy's language yet I hear you unironically using the term conspiracy theories
01:11:57.500quite often what gives. So you have to be a lot more specific on that. So I think I've been very
01:12:05.260clear about conspiracy theories. There are theories about conspiracies. That should not
01:12:11.780be a derogatory term. It's just an accurate representation. Now, obviously, there has been
01:12:19.420an attempt to make that a pejorative. And in some cases, that's been successful. But kind of the
01:12:25.340point is that so many of these conspiracy theories that are true have come true that
01:12:31.140just it's just an accurate description of the world and not something that should be maligned
01:12:36.120so i guess it would be like slippery slope right like people have said oh that's that's noticing
01:12:41.460that is the slippery slope fallacy and in that case i don't deny that you're kind of using that
01:12:47.000causal chain to say if you allow x then y will happen i'm not saying uh you know to get rid of
01:12:53.860that language i'm saying we should just acknowledge that that is actually what happens like the slope
01:12:57.620is slippery when one thing happens the next thing does happen you can't actually logically deduce
01:13:02.440that i guess we could abandon the slippery slope but i think it's more powerful in that case to like
01:13:08.180just acknowledge not i'm not trying to flip the language on them i'm not like ha ha i've used my
01:13:14.040language against you and now that term is good i'm just acknowledging no this was always an
01:13:18.940accurate description of the world and you just demonized it right there there's one i mean there
01:13:24.660is a point at which abandoning a term is worthwhile uh but i think in this case actually it's one that
01:13:32.120kind of strengthens your case rather than abandon and and it also helps you to call out people so
01:13:37.400for instance when someone like ben shapiro or you know some of these other people who are now
01:13:42.580decrying conspiracy theories when they were talking about the conspiracies of anthony well
01:13:48.180I guess Ben Shapiro is not a good person on that because he told you to take the backs. But
01:13:52.840there are plenty of people who said, you know, Anthony Fauci is a bad person. The CDC is lying
01:14:00.240to you on COVID. You need to not do this. When they turn around and then attack people with
01:14:04.440conspiracy theories, they're kind of revealing their own hypocrisy. They're revealing their own0.87
01:14:10.240double standard, their own lie, right? So I think in that case, it's actually more useful. I mean,
01:14:14.400maybe I'm wrong, but in this case, I think that is the correct way to attack that particular frame.
01:14:19.460But I've been wrong before. I could be wrong. Maniude says, I know of a gas station near me
01:14:25.080that plays classical music, and they told me that nothing has been stolen since they started
01:14:30.120playing it. And coincidentally, the urban youth have also been oddly absent. I mean,
01:14:35.120I know that sounds like a meme, but I have heard this personally on many occasions. I've seen
01:14:40.340many people say you need to be careful about the type of music you play at your club or
01:14:44.240your bar or your gas station that kind of thing uh you need to be careful of what you sell uh you
01:14:49.300know if you're if you're uh selling a lot of like marijuana paraphernalia or you know certain types
01:14:55.420of drinks or that kind of thing uh in a gas station it's going to attract a certain crowd
01:15:00.080you'll see certain demographics start to show up um so again i don't i don't think there's any kind
01:15:05.280of magic spell there i think it's just you know certain people prefer different types of music i
01:15:10.080mean to be fair it's not like a lot of white people like classical music these days either
01:15:13.400but there is a certain demographic signaling that happens depending on what you provide again
01:15:20.240this was part of you know that story I told you about the mall one of the things the guy said
01:15:24.200you know my friend said who was doing the the analysis was like well they have more shops that
01:15:29.920are selling specifically kind of African-American appealing items and so more of them are showing up
01:15:36.500and that's what's been you know snowballing this thing so you know market research also shows this
01:15:41.500If you walk into a liquor store about 10 years ago, you'd notice that the Hennessy that costs $20, $25 has the anti-theft device on it, and the scotch that costs $120 doesn't.
01:15:54.660Not because people are less worried that $120 bottle of scotch would be stolen in theory, but in practice, those aren't what gets stolen, and the Hennessy is, and you don't have to be a genius to put that together.
01:16:05.760cherry coke nixon says uh cambridge mayor is from moss eisley so uh i don't know how to
01:16:13.680pronounce that at all but yeah star wars names understood understood uh jacob zendill says one
01:16:20.160busy night in the liquor store i look at the door and see a 16 year old spotter i walk over
01:16:25.820and ask to see id he hands me a student id and smirks
01:16:29.900yeah again i think you have to be uh i think you have to be around reality aligned when observing
01:16:37.920the situation around you uh let people call you whatever you want if you need to cross the street
01:16:42.540if you need to ask for an id if you need to ultimately uh recognize a dangerous situation
01:16:47.740don't be don't hesitate it's not worth their life it's not worth the safety of your kids
01:16:52.400or your wife or whatever like sorry it's not and and i i know i understand you have to be careful
01:16:58.640uh in a lot of scenarios you can have your life ruined uh by noticing bad behavior of people of
01:17:04.940certain races uh but ultimately you know if you can uh please you know keep stay safe don't don't
01:17:11.320hesitate to take care of yourself and those around you uh johan richardson says check your privilege
01:17:18.620some populations um had centuries of capital punishment to call troublemaking genes maybe
01:17:23.980think about, uh, spreading, uh, spreading advantages to all, uh, you know, I, again,
01:17:30.660equal treatment under the law, equal treatment under the law. Manahude says, if you are not
01:17:36.180prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarianism. Thomas
01:17:41.400Soule. And yeah, I mean, another great example of a, a black gentleman who knows exactly what's
01:17:46.560going on. And it was very honest about it. Um, in some ways, uh, they're, they're, they're
01:17:51.760interesting reading if you look at his uh i'm trying to remember the name but it was like
01:17:57.380black rednecks and white bugs or something i'm trying it was his study of like black and white
01:18:04.360in interactions of crime there there are some things i might take issue with thomas soul within
01:18:08.200that book but but in general soul very good on this uh bruce jenner jenner says you've knocked
01:18:14.600fuentes types for vote democrat haven't heard you address a possible accelerationist angle i agree
01:18:19.340with you by the way i have actually described it several times but uh just quickly um you know
01:18:24.860worse is worse uh unfortunately uh we're in the scenario where worse is worse i i totally
01:18:30.160understand the idea like with withhold your vote punish these people for a cycle i get it i like
01:18:34.720i understand the strategy in in principle unfortunately i think things have just gotten
01:18:38.980so bad that i think we've seen that the republicans are not going to be like oh well i guess we need
01:18:44.600to get our stuff together a and b uh obviously like in the meantime you're handing power to
01:18:50.160people who explicitly are anti-white explicitly want open borders explicitly celebrate when
01:18:55.220charlie kirk gets shot in the neck i'm not on those guys team i'm sorry i'm not going to support
01:18:58.840them if you sit out an election okay fine i get that i'm not calling for it but i understand that
01:19:04.360but actively voting for people who want me dead sorry no sorry that's that's never that's not a
01:19:10.280strategy it's not it's not a strategy um cherry coke nixon says uh probably existed in 90s
01:19:18.240accelerated after obama 2010s yeah i i'd agree with you and that's what i said when you said
01:19:23.260the first time so i think we agree on that uh he also says white flight is racist but also whites
01:19:28.440can't sit on stoops in brooklyn according to costco shoppers uh influencing making the rounds
01:19:33.940on X. Yep. Again, like just the two-tier behavior, the two-tier expectations are obvious and you
01:19:41.280can't have a cohesive society. You can't have a high trust society when there are two different
01:19:45.920sets of expectations, one for white Americans and one for everybody else. That's not equal0.85
01:19:51.260treatment under the law. And that's just, again, we don't have that, that, that, even if we want
01:19:55.840to get back to that, if that's all we want. And I think that was honestly all we would need,
01:19:59.100but right now it's literally uh and you know illegal to have everybody get equal treatment
01:20:04.480of the law and it's obviously socially impermissible and until we fix those two factors
01:20:08.720we aren't fixing this overall again violent crime is down the trump administration is
01:20:12.840making a difference that does matter but we have to we have to address those deeper issues
01:20:17.460if we're ever going to really solve this problem all right guys thank you once again everybody for
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