The Auron MacIntyre Show - The Unhinged Leftist Hatred of White Refugees ｜ Guest： Good Ol Boyz

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00:00:38.100 Amazing thing has happened in the last few days.

00:00:41.620 Donald Trump has managed to get the entire Democratic Party to go from being pro-refugee to anti-refugee

00:00:50.060 and being against large corporations to shilling for big pharma.

00:00:53.780 So I'm just going to say that Donald Trump is probably one of the greatest political actors of all time.

00:00:59.680 Maybe it's not 40 chests, but if it isn't, it's just God's blessing because the man is a force of nature.

00:01:05.820 So the amazing thing is that for obviously decades we've had to hear from the left that every refugee has to come to the United States.

00:01:14.060 The Statue of Liberty says, you know, give me your poor and your hungry and your tired, your huddled masses.

00:01:18.920 And this means we have to welcome every single human being from across the world who makes slightly less money than your average American.

00:01:27.280 And yet, in the last few days, they flipped this policy because it turns out that there are farmers in South Africa who have real physical danger,

00:01:39.160 threatened to them on a regular basis, and a large part of that is because their skin color is white.

00:01:44.140 And so Donald Trump, in what I think is a very brave move, went ahead and offered asylum to white South African farmers, Afrikaners specifically,

00:01:55.940 who have been threatened by the government there, who have been threatened with death.

00:02:00.320 And the first 60 or so of them arrived yesterday or the day before.

00:02:05.880 And this absolutely blew up the left.

00:02:08.220 They lost their minds.

00:02:09.440 They've become entirely unhinged.

00:02:10.840 It is so clear, it is so painfully clear, that these people just hate white people,

00:02:16.900 and they have made that as evident as possible in this maneuver.

00:02:20.920 Joining me today to talk about this is one of my favorite podcast duos, Bog Beef and Mark of the Goodo Boys.

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00:02:30.080 Happy to be here.

00:02:31.860 I mean, how, like, if anything at all is 4D chess,

00:02:36.940 there are, it is these groups, like the Episcopalian Church or whatever,

00:02:43.200 not just writing a statement, not just saying this or that,

00:02:47.800 but taking the keys to a machine that moves, that handles $5 million a year of government money,

00:02:59.080 that hands them that money, and chucks it out the window and says,

00:03:02.320 we don't want it anymore.

00:03:04.000 Donald Trump, thank you very much.

00:03:05.820 They're, you know, they're burning their own boats to the ground, like, because of, I mean,

00:03:10.760 he's done black magic voodoo on them.

00:03:13.700 It's, it's, it's, it's, it's 50 people.

00:03:16.860 It's 50 people.

00:03:18.340 Go to the, go to the, the Holiday Inn closest to your house.

00:03:21.460 There's 50 Guatemalans in there right now cleaning rooms.

00:03:24.420 It's 50 people.

00:03:25.640 It is truly amazing that he managed to, to get them to lose their mind over, yeah, you know, a, a, a moderately sized college class worth of people showing up into the United States.

00:03:40.040 And I want to dive into all everything because you guys are the authorities when it comes to patronage.

00:03:44.280 And I think it's fascinating that, as you point out, the Episcopalian church has decided to burn down their patronage network simply over this ideological issue.

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00:04:50.240 All right, guys.

00:04:51.220 So just to lay the groundwork here for a lot of people, I think those who have watched this channel are familiar,

00:04:57.080 more familiar than most with what's happening in South Africa.

00:05:01.180 I've spoken to several guys from South Africa about this, about what's going on there.

00:05:08.320 My friend Ernst Van Zell is a guy who is operating with the Solidarity Movement down there.

00:05:15.060 He is himself an Afrikaner and is very familiar with the situation and what they are facing.

00:05:20.100 But this is something in general that I think people just don't know about.

00:05:23.660 They know at some point South Africa has some white people in it, and they were in charge, and they didn't let the black people do stuff, and that was bad.

00:05:32.120 And then they stopped doing that, and it's probably fine now.

00:05:35.220 That's kind of the way that a lot of people understand that history.

00:05:39.880 And so they just don't have the context.

00:05:41.380 So you've seen people on MSNBC being like, oh, well, the refugee program, it's only for people who are being threatened.

00:05:49.020 It's only for people who are in dangerous situations, and I just want to play a quick clip to show people what's going on because they don't believe it.

00:05:57.140 I genuinely think a lot of these guys, like some of them know, and they're just lying, but a lot of them have just not educated themselves, even the slightest, on what's happening.

00:06:05.300 So here is one of the largest political parties.

00:06:08.080 I believe the second largest political party in South Africa.

00:06:11.160 Here's its leader leading a chant of a stadium full of people about killing white farmers.

00:06:31.360 So for those who didn't hear, he's chanting, kill the boar, kill the farmer.

00:06:36.300 And the boar is the Afrikaners, the Dutch Afrikaners who are in South Africa.

00:06:42.460 They often make up a disproportionate amount of farmers.

00:06:46.600 That's one of the reasons that there's so much tension there.

00:06:50.060 But yeah, I don't know about you guys, but if I ever have a stadium full of people this size chanting for my death,

00:06:57.860 I think it's reasonable for me to assume that I am probably not safe in the place where I live.

00:07:02.640 And by the way, this is not the first time in history that people have decided the way forward is to kill the Kulak.

00:07:13.520 And in the past, that's because, by the way, there's lots of very wealthy Anglo whites in Cape Town that got cars.

00:07:24.120 And by the way, if you're the ANC, you could just tax them.

00:07:27.000 You could just raise taxes.

00:07:28.720 You don't have to cause international history.

00:07:30.080 But you don't, but nobody, they don't want guys that own diamond mines and stuff.

00:07:34.720 No, no.

00:07:35.720 Kill the Kulak.

00:07:37.000 Go get these chuds.

00:07:38.460 You know, they'd say, we're going to, we're going to get that Aranya.

00:07:41.020 We're going to get in there.

00:07:41.900 Like, they have no money.

00:07:43.280 You go see this.

00:07:44.400 They're, they're, they're, you know, they're like, there's, that is that there's like real hate stuff that comes up with this.

00:07:52.340 And that, that is, I mean, you, I'm like, there is a specific extra just see when it comes to that population versus whites in general.

00:08:06.840 If you notice the Episcopalian church, who I guarantee you knows the difference, they could have said white South Africans.

00:08:13.340 No, they said white Afrikaner South Africans.

00:08:17.980 Like that, it's like four words now.

00:08:20.860 Like, why would you, why would you go that far?

00:08:22.660 There's this extra hate.

00:08:25.020 There's beyond that.

00:08:25.740 I've got a little, I've got a thing that will take like five seconds.

00:08:29.900 And I think this is the cliff notes that everyone needs to, that everyone needs to know because this, this, like there's, you can, can, and should, this is a great topic to discuss.

00:08:40.380 And we're going to do that here today, but here's the things that I think people should know.

00:08:43.720 Number one, this can be tough for people in America.

00:08:48.340 And that includes me, especially includes a libtard MSNBC anchors, uh, who to observe in South Africa is an, is a lot like America in a lot of ways.

00:09:01.640 You got Anglo population, you got the British sort of getting it going.

00:09:05.940 You got multi-ethnic and there's things, there's so many things that you could say, remind you of this or that, that we have a, like, it's like a distortion field.

00:09:16.380 And a lot of times you have, like, you have to really check yourself that, that you're really understanding what's going on there.

00:09:23.220 You're asking people that are there because even at our, even when we try hard, we, we have a really, we see domestic disputes over there.

00:09:33.540 And that's right.

00:09:34.180 We're, we're projecting our political situation onto a country that can have some, you know, some similarities, but is its own animal.

00:09:41.960 It has its own unique situation in history.

00:09:44.620 So we can't just one-to-one everything that's happening in the United States and be like, oh, that's what's happening in South Africa.

00:09:50.700 Yes.

00:09:51.120 And I mean, that's, that's not like, oh, you're saying this guy's the good guy.

00:09:54.520 No, I'm saying you, you're what I'm not talking about flipping support.

00:09:57.740 I'm just saying that.

00:09:58.360 Okay.

00:09:58.820 Number two.

00:09:59.820 Hey, just leave, bro.

00:10:01.240 Just leave, bro.

00:10:03.520 Please understand.

00:10:04.440 Like there is a just leave bro moment.

00:10:07.480 There is the last helicopter out of town.

00:10:10.260 You must understand that is the, the, if you leave a country with the shirt on your back, you're, you're, you have to generate, like, first off.

00:10:23.380 Yeah.

00:10:23.840 When you, if you were 19 or, or, you know, and you, you, you could live out your truck and get a job and stuff like that.

00:10:29.780 This is a population of three to 5 million people.

00:10:32.040 If you hand every, if you hand three to 5 million people tickets to Albuquerque, they're going to have two generations of having nothing.

00:10:39.480 It like one thing that you might, might not know is that there are heavy, heavy capital controls.

00:10:46.120 A lot of people maybe would have left.

00:10:48.620 I know that a lot of South Africans are very proud.

00:10:51.820 Many might not say that, but a lot of you would have left.

00:10:54.760 But like, if you, if you talk to people that do, that do tourism, you go to Europe, you see some South African guys at the bar, you hang out with South African guys.

00:11:03.980 You might have to help them with the bar tab because like, you can't leave the country with like more than like $500 on you because, uh, they, they thought like the government's thought about this.

00:11:15.460 They don't want, they have done everything in their power to make it very, very difficult to get out of there with anything.

00:11:22.280 Uh, okay.

00:11:23.560 So that's number two, number three.

00:11:25.300 Uh, this is just sort of addressing like a big propaganda point.

00:11:27.980 This is a stunt.

00:11:30.620 Okay.

00:11:31.500 Like, yes, first off it is, this is a political statement to the country of South Africa.

00:11:38.740 By the way, that is the only thing that like political refugee ism like the concept, this changed and got abused after the 1980 refugee act, uh, whatever.

00:11:48.700 Uh, uh, political refugee is a tool of statecraft.

00:11:53.380 Like if someone fails a coup somewhere or something, you let them stay at your place.

00:11:58.460 And maybe one day that'll be a chip.

00:12:00.640 You might want to cash in with something comes up or whatever.

00:12:03.660 Uh, you know, the, the, this is Taiwan, all this kind of stuff like that.

00:12:07.180 It's always been there.

00:12:08.200 It's not like people are like, well, who's got the better quality of life.

00:12:11.440 So that's not what political refuge, political refugee is a tool of statecraft.

00:12:16.260 And that's what, by the way, they're doing right now.

00:12:18.180 The UNESCO UNESCO government says we're getting these people out of here because you are teetering on the edge of failed state.

00:12:26.220 And that might include some sanctions.

00:12:29.160 And that would be very, very difficult for the ANC.

00:12:32.220 Now, so people say it's a stunt or whatever.

00:12:35.480 Well, like how do states communicate?

00:12:38.660 They don't go to couples therapy.

00:12:40.920 You, you, this is what you do.

00:12:43.380 This is, this is the only way for a state to communicate with a quote unquote stunt or whatever.

00:12:48.680 Uh, and lastly, uh, my favorite person to, to heat check.

00:12:53.000 Uh, I, I despise this guy, but he is the only, like, he is the only person I, that I think that is a lefty.

00:13:02.220 There's reliable instincts to tell other lefties, Hey, you guys are, are, um, you're getting played right now.

00:13:11.160 And if you go listen, go look at Matthew Iglesias.

00:13:14.560 I, I think he belongs in prison for the book he wrote, but he is saying, guys, guys, this is bait.

00:13:22.140 They are, they are cooking us on this.

00:13:25.160 Please stop talking, stop ranting and raving about the boar on everything you're saying is like, it's, it's not only making them look, I mean, insane.

00:13:37.780 Uh, maybe lethal weapon two was good.

00:13:40.900 I don't know, but I couldn't have been that good, but the, uh, it making them look insane.

00:13:45.620 And also, uh, it's kind of discrediting the, I don't want to know if you say it's the biggest hole.

00:13:53.420 And I mean, there's so many holes in us immigration policy, but it was a pretty big hole because, uh, you know, you got in legally with papers.

00:14:01.020 Now you can start, you can get the, get the train going, you know, you can start marrying siblings and, and, uh, getting a huge train of people here legally.

00:14:09.080 Right now you can change migrate the entire South African, uh, white population.

00:14:13.300 And at this point, right.

00:14:14.700 Yep.

00:14:15.060 That's it.

00:14:15.820 That's, that's everything that you, that, that you've got to know as an American.

00:14:21.100 So Mark, I want to ask you about this because, uh, the, the frame has just exploded on this.

00:14:27.360 Absolutely exploded.

00:14:28.280 So just a few weeks ago, if the president walked up to a microphone and said, there is a genocide of whites anywhere.

00:14:35.460 That would have been like, just like, that's, that's radical right wing, insane talking points.

00:14:42.460 That's conspiracy theory.

00:14:43.540 That's like alt-right that, you know, that's the kind of language that would have gotten you immediately banned from every social media platform, every polite society event.

00:14:51.480 And Donald Trump just said it straight up, right?

00:14:54.200 Like, like there is a genocide of white farmers in South Africa.

00:14:57.840 There is a genocide of white South Afrikaners in, uh, South Africa.

00:15:03.200 He said that multiple times, just blew, blew the frame wide open.

00:15:08.180 We see guys like Matt Walsh saying there is no clear, uh, uh, obvious truth than that.

00:15:14.800 The great, great replacement is real because the left allowed every single refugee demanded every single refugee.

00:15:21.360 You are a terrible Christian.

00:15:23.260 If you don't want the entire country of Haiti airlifted into your small Midwestern town previously and 60 guys and, or actually families.

00:15:34.240 That's another thing you notice about these refugees.

00:15:36.080 It's not all fighting age males.

00:15:37.740 Like there's actual families.

00:15:39.060 There's actually women and children in this group, but 60 refugees from South Africa who have less melanin in their skin.

00:15:47.220 All of a sudden the frame gets blown wide open.

00:15:50.500 And how much clearer can it be that this immigration policy was entirely designed to demographically shift intentionally the United States than looking at this?

00:16:00.520 I mean, what do you think about this just explosion of, of kind of the taboo and the words and the framing around this before the election?

00:16:09.220 We talked about this and we were kind of going over on a dream scenario is the right word, but just like, what do you think if Trump wins, he'll do and what he won't do.

00:16:18.260 And, you know, there was stuff about tariffs, but the thing, one thing I mentioned was, well, you know, if you had a, a really right wing administration, they would say something about what's happening in South Africa.

00:16:31.340 They do something about it.

00:16:32.380 But I, to me, that was a, uh, an insane fantasy idea because there's not really much benefit for the, for, for Donald Trump to do this, which is like, this is the most surprising thing about to me to, to go after, uh, the ANC,

00:16:47.120 to resettle some of these people.

00:16:49.920 I don't, I don't see like, there's no ulterior motive that I can make out.

00:16:54.180 Like the, the, the whole, the purpose of the refugee program in theory is what Bogby said earlier, you have, you have expats.

00:17:02.640 You like to keep around just in case you ever want to do a coup or whatever, but also sometimes you can pick up on the cheap people who are overqualified for, for the things that you'll have them doing.

00:17:14.060 And like, so those Afrikaners who are being brought over, they're probably, they're probably going to be a lot more useful than your average Haitian boat person.

00:17:24.780 I know that's like, that's like a mean thing to say, and we're not supposed to say it, but it's true.

00:17:29.400 Yeah.

00:17:30.520 That's the, the, the people in the chief, that's not political refugee.

00:17:34.140 I just want to say that.

00:17:34.980 Sure.

00:17:35.980 But my point here is if you're an actual refugee, if you're actually leaving because you're afraid that the government or people who are associated with them are going to kill you and you're not leaving because, well, I, I have nothing, I have nothing, nothing better to do.

00:17:51.440 I'm going to go to somebody else's country and ask for money.

00:17:54.380 Like if, if you're that former group, they are, they're, they are useful to the host country.

00:18:01.080 But if we're talking like, it's like what, 500 people total, right?

00:18:05.540 I think 400, something like that.

00:18:06.920 It was, it's a small number.

00:18:08.060 It's a handful of people.

00:18:09.300 It's less than 60.

00:18:10.520 Well, it's, it's 59 was the report I saw, or at least the initial, you know, it could be more approved.

00:18:15.540 Yeah, I think there were more approved.

00:18:17.280 Yeah.

00:18:17.460 Like that's, that's a drop in a bucket.

00:18:19.680 That's nothing.

00:18:20.220 Unless these people are a rocket scientist or something, it's, it's not going to make a difference.

00:18:25.480 So the reason he did this has to do with domestic politics.

00:18:30.540 He's sending a message to his base.

00:18:32.220 He's sending a message to his enemies.

00:18:33.840 He's changing the trajectory of us foreign policy and social policy, which is, I mean, this is something that the left has obviously no problem doing.

00:18:43.260 They've done it for 80 years.

00:18:45.540 And it was, it was a trap because there were, you know, there were libs there protesting the arrival of the Afrikaners, basically holding up signs saying these aren't real refugees, taking photos of them saying, look at these people.

00:18:59.160 Do they look like refugees to you?

00:19:02.760 What, what this did was cut through all the bullshit about like what, like the friend enemy distinction.

00:19:08.980 That's, that's real.

00:19:09.720 I mean, I hate the average political refugee, uh, is a, is like a literal member of the royalty.

00:19:15.900 Thank you.

00:19:16.740 Yeah.

00:19:17.120 Like Omar's parents, stuff, stuff like that.

00:19:19.980 Uh, or what we've had in the 21st century, young men coming here to work for, for low wages.

00:19:27.480 But this is a lot of older people, families, kids, they, the, the libs are right.

00:19:33.320 This didn't look like the kind of refugees that we usually get.

00:19:36.920 And, uh, yeah, it was bait.

00:19:39.780 You've managed to, you didn't even have to provoke them.

00:19:42.400 You just put this thing there and they announced to the world that they hate white people and that's it.

00:19:48.160 Uh, the, the news outlets have lost all, all semblance of discipline.

00:19:53.260 Sometimes they were straight up saying with, with, with regards to the Episcopalian church's decision that they weren't happy about white Afrikaners being admitted as refugees.

00:20:02.400 I don't think that like the big brain genius person at the New York times would, would like them to frame it that way.

00:20:10.360 Or if, if, if they would, that's, that's a very bad sign for, for the health of like, I guess the progressive hive mind or, or the cathedral or whatever the hell you want to call it.

00:20:22.820 The venom.

00:20:24.300 Sorry.

00:20:24.780 Once again, the, um, the, the, the greatest weapon that Trump wields is his unique ability to force the left to say what they mean.

00:20:34.700 Right.

00:20:35.080 Like that's like, and people will turn to me and say, well, surely all the masks have dropped at this point.

00:20:40.160 Like surely all the institutions have debased themselves.

00:20:43.320 Everyone has sacrificed their credibility.

00:20:45.300 And so obviously we don't need Trump anymore.

00:20:48.020 No, clearly we do actually, because first no GOP president would have ever even mentioned this and thought that they wouldn't have destroyed their career, but Trump doesn't just mention it.

00:20:57.940 He engages with it.

00:20:59.140 He uses the rhetoric that is forbidden.

00:21:00.960 And then he takes direct action in a way that just no Republican would ever do.

00:21:06.760 Now, Trump is not perfect and it doesn't mean you can't, uh, criticize him, but I do not want to hear anymore.

00:21:11.760 I don't want to hear anymore about how we'd be better off with someone else.

00:21:16.080 No, it is very clear that Trump is a singular individual willing to take action that no one else is.

00:21:22.560 And the fact that he can get all of the people on the left to just drop all of their careful language, any, any restraint, and just say everything directly out loud to just, because they can't hear themselves at all.

00:21:35.340 Cause they're so incensed and want to scream at Trump.

00:21:38.940 That is a blessing that just keeps going and going for us.

00:21:42.180 Yeah.

00:21:42.620 I mean, if you're, if your opponents do nothing but dissemble or just outright lie, you don't need to play 5d chess.

00:21:48.860 You can just make a move and it'll, what's the old expression?

00:21:53.540 Like you need to have a good memory if you're a liar, but if you tell the truth, you, you really don't, you just have to, you just have to be focused on the path ahead.

00:22:00.480 Well, they, like they drop kayfabe constantly because if, if anything that pops up.

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00:22:37.760 It gets that, like, like that bile coming out, that comes from our ear and they just spew it everywhere.

00:22:45.080 And this causes problems for their coalition because this is like this weird, disparate group of people who would probably naturally hate each other.

00:22:55.120 But they've all come together under the banner of, like, of this one cause.

00:23:00.840 And it's a, it's a lie.

00:23:03.200 It's not true.

00:23:04.280 So this is why they have, this is the problem for them, why they have so much confusion and chaos.

00:23:09.900 Like, this is why, like right now as we speak, in a time when you would think that they would be rallying behind somebody or something.

00:23:16.880 They're, the Democrat Party is, is like having little racial, little racial wars with each other.

00:23:24.180 I, you know, I'm not saying that this means that they're, they're going to lose because historically, if you're a betting man, usually just betting on the Democrats in the American elections for the last, like 60 years is, is a pretty good, is a pretty good bet.

00:23:38.440 But, but I think there's something about this feels different.

00:23:42.500 It feels like the, the coalition of the fringes is having trouble holding itself together.

00:23:48.980 So, uh, one thing about this, that, that kind of makes this easy to goad them on this kind of thing.

00:23:54.760 Um, uh, and, uh, I just want to highlight the, the venom, the venom is what makes people, uh, that's, that, that's sort of what you bring out.

00:24:03.640 Everyone lies all the time.

00:24:05.560 Um, you know, like if anyone read the, the statement by the ANC, the statement, the, the, the ANC put about this, like, it's so easy.

00:24:13.800 Like literally all you need is like one person there that, that's like, that, that isn't seething with hatred.

00:24:20.700 They just say, Hey, I don't know what you're talking about.

00:24:22.740 Everyone here is treated legally the same.

00:24:24.940 Um, this is ridiculous.

00:24:26.420 And, um, we don't accept this.

00:24:28.140 That's that, that's all you had to say.

00:24:29.660 And you start out in the first two or three sentences.

00:24:31.540 They say that.

00:24:32.160 And they say, these guys want to escape the, what the, they said, we're ever going to impose a, a transformation on them of justice.

00:24:42.120 And like, uh, on Twitter, there was like anyone who was, that's not like currently employed by the DNC was like, yeah, I started getting different feelings about the African.

00:24:52.400 Tanner, when I got to that section of the statement, because you like, it was, let me, let me read it.

00:24:56.740 What the instigators, this is talking about the refugees claiming persecution.

00:25:02.500 What the instinct, this is an official communique from the ANC, the ruling party of South Africa.

00:25:08.560 What the instigators of this falsehood seek is not safety, but impunity from transformation.

00:25:13.740 They flee not from persecution, but from justice, equality, and accountability for historic privilege.

00:25:20.120 That sounds like something Dr. Doom says in the comic book panel.

00:25:25.320 Yeah, they're fleeing our re-education camps.

00:25:27.620 Don't you know that they have to stay in the concentration camps?

00:25:30.180 That is their destiny.

00:25:31.180 They fear our transformation.

00:25:34.180 And when, you know, the, the, the request there is like, Hey, we, we don't, we're just want to go.

00:25:39.220 We don't, we, we, we're going like, like this, this is your state.

00:25:42.960 We, we, we, we, we leave.

00:25:44.380 No, no, you get your ass back here.

00:25:46.400 We ain't done with you yet.

00:25:47.940 There's no way to spend that.

00:25:49.320 Now, when you, when you go to the, um, the thing about the reflection stuff, it's so, uh, people, there's a lot of people.

00:25:57.840 But I mean, it's unmistakable.

00:25:59.920 People have a lot of very.

00:26:05.360 If you know, people that have gone to very liberal colleges.

00:26:08.100 I mean, so we had, I had a buddy in college and, uh, he went, he had transferred from, uh, a, what do you call it?

00:26:16.660 These historic HBCU.

00:26:19.580 Oh, okay.

00:26:20.140 Uh, historically black college.

00:26:21.800 Yeah.

00:26:22.200 And he was a chill guy.

00:26:23.360 He said, and he was like, man, when you go to school there, like they basically just teach you to hate white people.

00:26:29.520 That's that he told us that he would tell us stuff about their, their history class, whatever.

00:26:34.200 And then I'm going to tell you, it's not just that it's like HBCUs and stuff now, but in America, uh, you know, like if you go to the DNC conference, they have a hit guy there that loves AOC and transgender and all this stuff like that.

00:26:48.160 They, they have sort of legal stuff.

00:26:51.140 They had things in their life.

00:26:52.580 Maybe you would be, would be more common.

00:26:53.940 It's, it's not the same thing.

00:26:56.040 There's, there's always some kind of thing, but distance with, with distance.

00:27:01.220 So when you have things that like all those feelings, angry feelings you have about those people, but they're over there and that you don't, there's no nice guy, you know, that's, you know, there's not no one of those.

00:27:16.720 That's good or whatever.

00:27:18.060 Those people are just, that's when the venom comes out.

00:27:22.400 The great quote from the MSNBC host, because like, I mean, obviously this was nonsense, but it wasn't, it wasn't like, like she, she went to class wrong or whatever.

00:27:32.040 What she said was true through the vibes of like, uh, she, she basically, uh, and she didn't explain it because it was like, you know, it was the kind of thing you had to understand what she meant just by like picking it up.

00:27:44.500 But she said like, she was, she, it was obvious that she believed that the South African government was a, like a, a, uh, a government exile after World War II of, of the, of the German state of the Nazi state.

00:27:58.080 And you're like, like, Oh, that's a silly mistake to make.

00:28:01.900 But like, no, I mean, that would like, literally that just makes sense.

00:28:05.100 That that's what, what it would be.

00:28:06.640 You know what I mean?

00:28:07.620 It would be like, well, there's like, there's Nazis, you know, they have this, they'd have a moon base or whatever.

00:28:13.460 They're, they're, they're controlling their, uh, they're raising my interest rates, blah, blah, blah.

00:28:18.520 And of course they would be running South Africa and, uh, Russia, all these different things.

00:28:25.300 And also some of this, some of the issue with this is that Germans were the bad guys.

00:28:30.640 American movies is like our main thing.

00:28:32.740 Uh, and American movies, uh, we had the Germans, they were the bad guys.

00:28:36.620 And then, um, and then the cold war goes and the Russians, the bad guys, the wall falls in the eighties.

00:28:45.000 And so you had a short period in the eighties, like it would have been really weird to like have, have Sylvester Stallone mowing down Russians.

00:28:54.560 Like when, like, we're running the Russian state, like it's over, like, like that would have been kind of weird.

00:29:01.180 So we needed a new bad guy for like, like half of the eighties.

00:29:06.180 So we got these guys out here.

00:29:08.180 And like, I, I remember hearing, like people would tell me, uh, uh, like, uh, or we said this thing called urban myths where like rant, I don't know.

00:29:18.240 This is going to sound insane to a zoomer.

00:29:20.200 Some random person would just run up, run up on you on the club and be like, Hey, did you know there's chemicals in Mountain Dew?

00:29:27.360 They'll, that'll make your, make your genitals fall off.

00:29:30.960 I don't know what this, I don't know what to tell you, but we used to do, but that's yellow five.

00:29:35.040 Right.

00:29:35.220 Wasn't that the urban legend was like yellow five or something like that.

00:29:38.120 Yeah.

00:29:38.440 In other words, this wasn't printed in a book or on a television show.

00:29:41.600 It just, these people would come tell you this.

00:29:43.640 That's hilarious.

00:29:44.320 We grew up like five, 6,000 miles apart, but we both heard the same.

00:29:50.060 I heard it too.

00:29:52.040 Yeah.

00:29:52.580 It's a, it was definitely, it was the original conspiracy theory tweets.

00:29:55.460 You just have to deliver them, you know, in person.

00:29:57.780 You couldn't just throw them up online.

00:29:58.980 Like people would tell me there were urban myths about how vile the, the, the Boer was.

00:30:05.620 They, they, they would say like, there's like nobody in this.

00:30:09.540 I think it was like no one in the South African government.

00:30:13.020 They could never leave because if they stepped foot in another country, they would be, they

00:30:18.100 would all get the electric chair at the Hague because they had, you know, eaten so many

00:30:22.420 babies and stuff.

00:30:23.440 You're just thinking like, you know, I live in, I live in Hicktown.

00:30:26.640 How do these people even know what the hell a Boer is?

00:30:29.140 How did this story get here?

00:30:30.540 What's like, what's going on?

00:30:32.200 Well, I've got, I've got the clips that you're referencing, uh, queued up here.

00:30:35.940 So let's play those here in a second.

00:30:37.800 So people have some context about what we're talking about.

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00:31:40.420 So this is the CNN clip that Bog was referencing with this woman who doesn't know where the

00:31:46.940 Afrikaners came from.

00:31:48.000 And actually, that's that's been a theme throughout.

00:31:50.820 There's a lot of people like even guys on the right, like Joel Berry, like didn't they don't

00:31:54.700 know where the Afrikaners are from, which is OK.

00:31:58.220 Like we said, this is this is actually a complex issue.

00:32:01.040 So if I was not super familiar until a few years ago about kind of what was going on in

00:32:06.720 South Africa.

00:32:07.260 So it's OK if you don't know, but there's a lot of people who are trying to make like

00:32:10.800 really authoritative statements about, you know, the dynamics in South Africa or or where

00:32:16.420 people should go back to, which is a fun thing to hear left to say at this point.

00:32:21.820 But but they don't know anything about what's going on now.

00:32:24.620 They over on MSNBC, they said we had several anchors.

00:32:29.520 I didn't pull that clip, but they had several anchors talking about how like, well, the white

00:32:33.180 South Africans shouldn't be able to leave because they benefited from racism at some

00:32:37.980 point.

00:32:38.220 So they like have a the genetic sin of racism.

00:32:40.880 And so they can never they're trapped there forever because ultimately they can never leave

00:32:47.060 behind the legacy of racism that will taint them for the rest of the day.

00:32:50.440 They have tainted blood and they're not allowed to walk into any other country.

00:32:53.560 But here's what happened over at CNN.

00:32:55.240 Part of that is that the people who are native to that land deserve their rightful land back.

00:33:01.680 That is not what the Afrikaners actually want to have happen, which are the white Africans.

00:33:07.400 And so who are not originally from Africa, who colonize South Africa also.

00:33:14.420 And so that is what they are saying is discrimination.

00:33:17.280 Now, if the Constitution in South Africa is discriminatory, they have their checks and

00:33:22.240 balances in that land just like we do.

00:33:24.640 And that is for them to.

00:33:25.720 So if the Afrikaners don't actually like the land, they can leave that country.

00:33:30.100 They are.

00:33:30.480 They're leaving to come.

00:33:31.440 No, they can actually leave and go to where their native land is, which is probably Germany.

00:33:37.660 Are you against them coming here?

00:33:38.960 Holland.

00:33:39.580 Holland.

00:33:41.460 So so beyond the fact that she doesn't have it clearly doesn't have any clue what she's

00:33:45.960 talking about.

00:33:46.320 Remember, this is an advisor to Obama.

00:33:48.680 These are the people who were literally running the world.

00:33:51.980 Brain trust.

00:33:52.580 Yeah, just just just the the firepower.

00:33:57.140 So sorry.

00:33:57.920 But when Curtis Yarfin tells me I have to be governed by these people, I love Curtis.

00:34:01.480 But this is what this is always my problem with the dark elf theory that that the chuds

00:34:05.820 can never rule themselves and we have to be ruled by leftists.

00:34:08.840 We just need them to treat us better.

00:34:10.280 Sorry.

00:34:10.680 No, people are idiots and I'm not going to be ruled by them at all.

00:34:15.440 Second, though, and I think more amazingly in that clip beyond the insane ignorance, like

00:34:21.300 the thing that really blows me away.

00:34:23.480 This is she's like, well, they have their own constitution, their own checks and balances.

00:34:27.580 So if it's unequal.

00:34:28.780 So she's not even denying that these people are horribly racist to Afrikaners, that they

00:34:34.340 are horribly anti white.

00:34:35.640 She's not denying that.

00:34:36.600 And the slightest.

00:34:37.180 She's not denying that there are explicit racial laws in South Africa designed to harm

00:34:43.360 white people.

00:34:43.960 She's not denying that either.

00:34:45.300 She's just saying, of course, a country should be able to discriminate against white people.

00:34:50.120 That's their business.

00:34:51.440 And if they don't like it, they should just leave.

00:34:53.980 But don't leave here.

00:34:55.260 And that certainly doesn't count as oppression, even though I'm acknowledging the fact that

00:34:59.060 you have these racial laws and people are trying to murder you.

00:35:02.820 But, you know, maybe you can just go back to some country.

00:35:05.360 I don't know.

00:35:06.200 I don't know what it is, but, you know, that's what you should do.

00:35:08.980 And by the way, does she think she's native to the United States?

00:35:13.100 Like that's the real argument, right?

00:35:14.740 Is like the Afrikaners aren't native to Africa, so they can go back if they don't like it here.

00:35:20.160 Yeah.

00:35:20.640 By the way, it's a fascinating argument.

00:35:23.080 I wonder if that applies both ways.

00:35:24.940 If anybody, if you're Afrikaner cover your ears, this is again, back to the domestic stuff.

00:35:30.640 Uh, now that things are getting serious over there, like, you know, we, they have a dark

00:35:35.760 elf population and a, a wood elf population, right?

00:35:39.700 Uh, they have the Afrikaner and the Anglo.

00:35:42.740 Now things are getting intense.

00:35:45.600 Uh, is it the chud?

00:35:48.440 Is it, is it, is it the dark elf institutions?

00:35:51.060 Is it the dark elf, uh, uh, people that have set up the night watches and the neighborhood

00:35:55.580 watches and stuff?

00:35:56.620 Uh, and, and, and, and, uh, the work groups and the college clubs and all this stuff.

00:36:02.260 Uh, it's not, is it?

00:36:03.720 Oh, this guys, they were, they were making money.

00:36:06.060 They were worrying about the business, the business, business.

00:36:09.620 And they're like, they're one of the issues with this.

00:36:13.000 And I, I should know that I, I don't care what the left has.

00:36:17.600 I think they just say settler colonialism for everything now, but it's like, there is basically

00:36:23.760 two different models of colonialism.

00:36:26.220 Uh, there is, Hey, we're here and we're a pump to move money.

00:36:31.600 Or in this case, golden diamonds back to the, back to, in their case, London.

00:36:38.100 That's what the British were there for.

00:36:42.020 The, you have all these black guys showing up from Mozambique and stuff.

00:36:45.620 We want to work in the mines.

00:36:46.860 We can make way more money than we ever made back in Mozambique.

00:36:50.020 And you have the British guys saying, that's wonderful.

00:36:52.840 We don't want to work in the mines.

00:36:54.900 You do that.

00:36:55.900 We do that.

00:36:56.700 We send them, we send the gold back to London.

00:36:58.820 Everything's happy.

00:36:59.800 Everything's happy without the Afrikaner because the Afrikaner is like, uh, no, we'll, we'll,

00:37:06.260 we'll work in our own field.

00:37:07.380 That's fine.

00:37:08.140 This is not, we're not here to pump money back to London.

00:37:11.900 We're going to live here.

00:37:12.660 This is, this, this like is our extraction versus settlement.

00:37:16.120 And an extraction colony is a different creature than the settlement colony.

00:37:20.940 A settlement colony wants to eventually one day become its own, become its own thing,

00:37:24.460 become its own nation, whether or not, I mean, in the 19th century, and I guess the 18th

00:37:31.580 century, that wasn't really popular with the imperial nations, but that's just how it's

00:37:36.340 always worked.

00:37:37.000 You go back to like the Greeks and their colonies and the black sea and stuff.

00:37:40.680 That's just, that's what's going to happen.

00:37:42.400 And they're a totally different breed of people.

00:37:46.260 You, the guy, the colonial administrator trying to get rubber or whatever out of the Congo,

00:37:52.560 he's not there to make little England in the Congo.

00:37:56.800 He's just there to get stuff and leave.

00:37:58.560 That's all the Afrikaners were doing.

00:38:00.300 They were trying to make their own nation.

00:38:03.000 And I mean, they did.

00:38:04.480 Unfortunately, they were repeatedly, had repeatedly pillaged about it by Great Britain.

00:38:11.120 But I mean, that's neither here nor there.

00:38:13.200 Before, before we move on to something completely different, this is tangential to what we were

00:38:18.400 saying before that.

00:38:20.520 I want to just disagree with you, Bob Beef, about the, the origin of this, like the song,

00:38:26.220 you know, that protest song, Sun City, 1985, the famous spinning image, hate video, puppet

00:38:34.040 hate video about how South Africans were scum, 1986.

00:38:37.020 Lethal Weapon 2, I think that was like 87, 88, 89, something like that.

00:38:42.260 Lethal Weapon 1 came out in like 85 and it had stickers all over, but end apartheid.

00:38:48.000 When this really picked up was in the mid 80s, well before the wall fell.

00:38:53.300 And that's because that's when violence started really popping off in South Africa.

00:38:56.840 That's when the, when the, like the final stages of the revolution really kicked off.

00:39:00.600 And not coincidentally, at a time when the ANC were committing acts of terrorism and there

00:39:07.980 was, there was fighting in, in the streets and in the villages, all of a sudden the West

00:39:12.980 gets, this is a really important issue now.

00:39:15.560 We need to, we need to put economic and cultural, our economic and cultural influence to, to help

00:39:22.260 them win the civil war.

00:39:23.380 So it's not like, well, we, we don't, the, the Soviets are done.

00:39:26.640 We need a new bad guy.

00:39:27.800 It's, Hey, here's an opportunity for us to, I won't say export, but get involved in this

00:39:33.840 civil war because we want this particular side to win.

00:39:38.280 And I don't think some people, like if, if you asked James Lindsay or whatever, he might

00:39:44.120 say, well, so that, you know, that they were allied with the communists or whatever, but

00:39:48.700 that didn't matter.

00:39:49.720 All the political considerations of the cold war were like a distant second to like this

00:39:55.660 weird mirror image of our own civil rights movement, which, which is not, it's not, that's

00:40:01.040 not confusing at all.

00:40:02.200 If you understand American progressivism, like this is their, this is their, their beating

00:40:07.280 heart.

00:40:08.200 They have to have this issue that has to be the focus of everything.

00:40:12.480 If you take it away, the, it's the glue that binds their coalition.

00:40:16.540 Uh, the, the lady we just saw on CNN, she has no standing to, she's, I mean, she's obviously

00:40:22.760 not, uh, like the sharpest political mind.

00:40:25.420 She has no standing to talk about politics or for you to care about what she says, except

00:40:29.680 for one thing.

00:40:30.540 And that's why she was an advisor to Barack Obama.

00:40:33.180 That's why she's on CNN.

00:40:35.020 That's why you, we have to have these debates endlessly for 80 years.

00:40:40.000 This is, this is the central thing, whatever, if they, if it eventually dies and they have

00:40:46.440 to replace it with something else, the Democrat party as it exists now is just going to explode

00:40:51.500 and blow away.

00:40:52.660 And maybe there'll be something still called the Democrat party, but it's not going to

00:40:56.380 be the same creature at all because they'll have to have a totally new coalition, totally

00:41:00.680 new way of doing things.

00:41:02.640 Their urban political machines will be dead to them.

00:41:06.220 And this is life and death.

00:41:07.360 So they see something happening across the world involving people that have nothing to

00:41:12.860 do with us and say, we've got to get into this because this is a way to, to, for us

00:41:18.040 to, you know, hear, hear, uh, clients look at what we do for your people across the ocean.

00:41:23.660 We're going to, we're going to destroy South Africa for you and Danny, you know, and Danny

00:41:28.780 Glover can go on TV and gloat and we'll put up statues of Nelson Mandela, whatever.

00:41:33.240 It is all about domestic politics, but you know, that's not wrong.

00:41:38.360 That's how you, that's, that's, uh, I won't say admirable behavior, but it was savvy political

00:41:45.040 behavior.

00:41:46.080 That's right.

00:41:46.960 And this is what a lot of the rational centrist IDW types don't understand or don't want to

00:41:51.680 understand.

00:41:52.100 I think in many situations, yes, at one point the American left was about communism, but

00:41:58.180 ultimately communism was a, uh, was a vehicle for racial revolution for them.

00:42:04.420 And, and the, and the IDW guys get it backwards.

00:42:07.800 They get the causality backwards.

00:42:08.960 They think that the, the racial revolution is a cover for communism.

00:42:13.640 No, no.

00:42:15.100 The communism is an ideological backing for the racial revolution.

00:42:18.840 That's the actual goal.

00:42:20.240 That's the central goal, which is why the left is a coalition of people who hate Americans,

00:42:27.080 specifically white Americans, that, that is what actually binds their coalition together.

00:42:32.780 It has nothing to do with the communism.

00:42:35.200 The communism is nice.

00:42:36.740 They, they, they enjoy it.

00:42:38.140 They, they have it as a treat, but the real actual animus, the real animating factor is this

00:42:45.080 coalition to hate white people, specifically white Americans.

00:42:49.080 And that is what actually drives a large amount of what they're doing.

00:42:52.660 They, they, they will throw the communism away.

00:42:55.000 They'll, they'll happily join in with a large corporation.

00:42:57.980 They'll defend a big pharma.

00:43:00.080 They'll, they'll cry.

00:43:01.120 They'll cry about the fact that you're pulling away big pharma's monopoly on, on, uh, drug prices

00:43:06.440 inside the United States, as long as they still get to run the racial revolution.

00:43:10.860 Like they, they don't care about the communism at the end of the day.

00:43:13.800 It's, it's, I forget that tweet, but you know, there's like, uh, you know, we, you can, you

00:43:18.420 can be on the left and you can kind of reject the, the communist stuff as long as you still

00:43:23.080 hate like white, straight Christian males, but you can't not hate white, straight Christian

00:43:27.340 males.

00:43:27.540 That puts you on the right immediately, which is what happened to a lot of the IDW guys.

00:43:31.920 It, they, that that's the reason they got bumped off for real.

00:43:35.060 And so that, that's ultimately the, the real defining feature of the left, the, the thing

00:43:40.700 you cannot abandon that the orthodoxy that you cannot deny that is the actual binding

00:43:45.800 agent of your coalition.

00:43:47.200 And for the left in America today, it's race.

00:43:50.100 Yeah.

00:43:50.700 I mean, John Brown, if there is a John Brown is the, the guy for the American left, he's

00:43:58.960 the, he is the inspirational figure.

00:44:01.160 And for people that are like, well, this is all communists.

00:44:04.760 It's just like Solzhenitsyn said, I'll be honest.

00:44:08.360 I don't think that John Brown and, and like Tito or Stalin, I don't think these people can

00:44:15.160 hang out, man.

00:44:15.840 I don't really think that they would see that, uh, they're, they would see much at all in

00:44:21.020 each other.

00:44:21.660 I'll tell you right now that Nelson Mandela and John Brown would get right to work.

00:44:26.060 I mean, they, it, this, what's, what's any different?

00:44:30.940 I mean, I mean, by the way, even if you like them or you don't.

00:44:34.640 I mean, like just, just the day in day out of what they do, whatever it's the same thing.

00:44:39.840 So of, of course, well, you guys have mentioned the Episcopalian situation.

00:44:45.100 I want to dive a little more into that.

00:44:46.340 Cause again, that really hits and rubs up against, uh, some of your patronage, uh, discussion

00:44:51.080 that I think is central.

00:44:52.120 So let me play this clip real quick.

00:44:54.360 We can't be ourselves in the Episcopal church and take the step of resettling white Afrikaners

00:44:59.720 from South Africa.

00:45:00.620 Our, our church has a long commitment to racial justice and reconciliation.

00:45:05.320 And we have historic ties with the Anglican church of South Africa.

00:45:09.000 Desmond Tutu, um, is, is, is a part of, uh, I've got a partner in, as a partner in this

00:45:14.760 work for us.

00:45:15.580 So we're just not able to take this step.

00:45:18.120 It, it, it's not in line with, with anything that, that we're about.

00:45:23.460 So, uh, as you guys point out many times, you're famous.

00:45:27.140 White South Africans from white Afrikaners from South Africa.

00:45:31.820 Yeah.

00:45:32.340 Yeah.

00:45:33.020 Yeah.

00:45:33.300 Very, very particular.

00:45:34.520 And, and, and this is, you know, patronage, as you guys point out regularly is, is the

00:45:39.080 bedrock of politics.

00:45:40.220 Right.

00:45:41.080 And, uh, it's very clear that a number of American churches sadly have become completely, uh,

00:45:48.000 corrupted due to their relationship with our state.

00:45:51.020 Despite people on the left talking about separation of church and state, they're actually huge fans

00:45:55.620 when these churches are actually doing their bidding.

00:45:58.060 Uh, obviously we know several denominations, uh, from the Catholics to the Lutherans to

00:46:02.860 the Episcopalians have been involved in large scale resettlements of refugees in the United

00:46:07.400 States.

00:46:07.740 They were more than happy to do this when it was, you know, uh, half the population of

00:46:12.940 Haiti being moved into the Midwest, you know, even though that's a country where cannibalism

00:46:18.200 and voodoo are famously prevalent, you know, that, that, that human sacrifice is not beyond,

00:46:23.620 uh, the cultural norm in those scenarios.

00:46:26.100 But we're happy to bring in all of those people.

00:46:28.900 That's not a problem at all.

00:46:30.100 However, they draw the line, as you point out at specifically white South African Afrikaners

00:46:36.800 like that, that somehow we can, we, we cannot do this and we will burn down our own patronage

00:46:42.420 network just to avoid being asked to, you know, uh, to be a part of this operation.

00:46:48.800 Uh, yeah, you know, there's, uh, I, everybody, we all do this when each other's churches are

00:46:58.900 in the news and they're taking that dirty money.

00:47:01.440 We all say, yep, that's what, that's what you get.

00:47:04.800 But I mean, uh, they're all getting it.

00:47:08.320 Uh, I think Megan Basham basically has this, this big thesis that essentially George Soros

00:47:14.400 fought the churches tooth and nail or people were fighting them.

00:47:18.820 He's a little bit smarter than the average leftist.

00:47:20.680 And he's like, why are you fighting them?

00:47:23.620 Throw money at them.

00:47:24.620 And he just started throwing, spilling money around.

00:47:27.380 Uh, I mean, so I'm in the Southern Baptist church, this church exists.

00:47:33.600 Like the, it was founded a base because over like, uh, what we're going to go with the

00:47:41.320 slavery people.

00:47:42.380 Like, that's just a fact.

00:47:43.560 I'm not saying that they say slavery is good or whatever, but that's just kind of a fact,

00:47:48.480 by the way, you know, like the most powerful leader we had, uh, like in terms of pure

00:47:54.300 political, uh, uh, power would just be with, uh, the guy in the seventies, uh, Jerry Falwell,

00:48:00.980 whatever he was not, uh, you know, people don't like him where, regardless of what he

00:48:06.300 was, he wasn't John Brown.

00:48:07.840 Okay.

00:48:08.200 I mean, that wasn't the case, but do you start, you go to church in the past 10 years, you

00:48:12.900 start hearing these weird statements.

00:48:14.560 So like, well, as we all know, I mean, what, the reason why we're all here, the highest

00:48:19.200 thing that we're, that, that, that sort of joins us together is, is.

00:48:23.780 It's combating fascism and racism.

00:48:25.960 It's like, I mean, like, by the way, you could tell me that you think that you could

00:48:31.900 say that, well, you know, I got this inspiration, whatever, but like, no, I mean, like, do you

00:48:37.820 realize where you're at?

00:48:38.900 Like this, like, go look at the name on the sign.

00:48:42.080 I mean, like, are you crazy?

00:48:43.520 That's, uh, I mean, like you could even say we, we, we, we should, we made, but like,

00:48:49.320 wow, how did we get here?

00:48:50.220 Blah, blah, blah.

00:48:51.120 Yeah.

00:48:51.400 There's so much of this that's going on, man.

00:48:54.600 Well, this is because this is the direction that power has been going for our lives, our

00:48:59.980 parents' lives, our grandparents' lives.

00:49:01.500 People just go with the flow.

00:49:02.900 That's the, the permanent gray pill.

00:49:04.840 It's not black or white pill, because if you're in power, you can do the same thing.

00:49:08.720 Uh, the, the interesting thing about the letter they wrote, uh, is the, in light of our church's

00:49:16.140 steadfast commitment to racial justice and reconciliation and our historic ties with the

00:49:20.880 Anglican church of South Africa, we're not able to take this step.

00:49:24.460 Now their excuse was that, oh, we think they're cutting to the head of the line, which.

00:49:29.420 Yeah.

00:49:29.700 That's the problem, right?

00:49:31.120 Right.

00:49:31.380 But they, this, it wasn't an official, this next part wasn't official communique from the

00:49:37.160 Episcopalian church, but it was, uh, I can open letter by a lot of South African Anglicans.

00:49:42.720 And I think maybe some, uh, an Episcopalian the, that, uh, let's see the state of reason

00:49:48.660 for Trump's actions or claims of victimization, violence, and hateful rhetoric against white

00:49:53.020 people in South Africa, along with legislation for providing the expropriation of land without

00:49:57.880 compensation as white South Africans in active leadership with the commission, uh, with the,

00:50:03.000 within the Christian, Christian community representing diverse political and theological

00:50:07.520 perspectives.

00:50:08.180 We unanimously reject these claims.

00:50:10.660 So this is saying we're white people.

00:50:12.120 We live in South Africa.

00:50:13.840 The, this is a lie.

00:50:15.700 These things aren't either, either they're not happening or they are happening, but it's

00:50:21.240 not persecution.

00:50:22.100 And, and to nobody's surprise, this is their, this is their real position that all these things

00:50:27.700 that are happening, they're real, but that's justice.

00:50:31.080 This is social justice in action.

00:50:33.220 And, you know, if that's the Episcopalian church of America's official position on this,

00:50:40.920 um, I don't, I don't know what Lee, I'm not saying there's like legal remedies for this,

00:50:47.480 but I think people should, should look at that organization, organization a lot differently

00:50:52.580 than we do now.

00:50:53.300 I mean, it's kind of, dude, it's 20, it's 20, 25.

00:50:57.240 I mean, they've already any of the, the, any of the churches they had of people that

00:51:02.060 were actually Christians.

00:51:02.960 They've already, they've already had at least two, uh, uh, uh, schisms.

00:51:08.420 Yeah.

00:51:09.460 Unfortunately, the Episcopalian church gave up on Jesus Christ a long time ago.

00:51:13.280 Well, I mean, we all knew three places in Maine that this guy represents that no one

00:51:17.980 goes to, there are Episcopalian churches, I don't even know if they still use that name

00:51:22.520 in Texas, full of people that, that love Jesus and they believe in the Bible, but they

00:51:26.980 have, they have parted ways a long time ago.

00:51:31.400 Yeah.

00:51:32.100 Well, I mean, I wouldn't have thought they were like Unitarians 10 years ago, but at

00:51:37.980 this point, couldn't you, you could kind of lump that in together, right?

00:51:41.560 Not all of them.

00:51:42.640 I mean, every, so we haven't done a, like Southern Baptist hasn't done the big schism

00:51:50.800 over, it always, it's always, it starts with, um, well, to be exact, it always starts with,

00:51:58.460 Hey, we're going to use a female pastor to fill in on Tuesdays, or she's going to lead

00:52:03.840 one prayer or something like that.

00:52:05.560 That's how it always starts.

00:52:06.560 And then the next one is, is gay.

00:52:08.480 And then, then you schism, uh, and that, that exact pattern, every, like the Catholic

00:52:15.280 church and the Southern Baptist church hasn't done it yet, but every single other denomination

00:52:20.560 in America has.

00:52:21.900 And the, there's problems with that because the lives, the, the, that no one goes to church,

00:52:27.020 they get the, uh, the seminary.

00:52:29.500 And then, so like all these sort of Presbyterian and, and, and Anglican place, Episcopalian that

00:52:35.900 are left full of like actual Christians, they end up either the Catholic church or the

00:52:40.760 Southern Baptist church adopts them and says, Hey, we'll, we'll give you a room in our seminary.

00:52:45.440 You guys can do your stuff and, um, work out and, uh, we'll, we'll, you can borrow our

00:52:50.060 accountant and that's, that's kind of just sad, but I mean, that's what happened.

00:52:55.700 Yeah.

00:52:56.220 It's, it's been amazing to watch, uh, these people who have spoken endlessly about how Jesus

00:53:01.600 was a refugee and don't you have, you know, the, the kind of, uh, Christian compassion

00:53:06.600 necessary, uh, to, to welcome in a refugee like Jesus, uh, apparently, uh, South African

00:53:13.380 refugees don't count.

00:53:14.800 I guess Afrikaner refugees are not like Jesus in some way that every other refugee happens

00:53:19.720 to be.

00:53:20.140 I wonder if there's any kind of, you know, trait that one could observe, uh, that, that,

00:53:24.980 that could set them apart.

00:53:26.080 Uh, but ultimately, uh, I think it's really important that this happened.

00:53:29.960 Uh, like you said, uh, you know, I, I'd like to say this, I am not for turning the United

00:53:35.740 States into a refugee camp.

00:53:37.120 Uh, I don't think it's the United States duty to become a refugee camp or to take in refugees.

00:53:42.560 Uh, taking refugees is, uh, something that what a country may do if it feels like ultimately,

00:53:48.800 uh, that will benefit their nation.

00:53:50.540 But I do not think you have a duty to take in, uh, especially large scale, uh, migration

00:53:56.060 in any way, shape, or form.

00:53:57.520 And my general position is I want a, uh, a immigration moratorium.

00:54:02.400 Uh, you know, so I, I am not necessarily on a big fan of having more and more refugees.

00:54:07.640 Uh, that said, if we're going to have them, having them from countries that, uh, are culturally

00:54:14.120 compatible, that are going to contribute, uh, that, uh, you know, where the people are actually

00:54:18.520 about to die and they're not just like poor, uh, that matters.

00:54:21.840 Right.

00:54:22.060 And so I, again, I, I, I'd like to keep my stance consistent, uh, whether it's South,

00:54:26.640 uh, you know, Afrikaner or not, I don't think that we should have large scale immigration.

00:54:31.240 I don't think we should have a lot of refugees coming into the nation, but most Afrikaners

00:54:35.900 don't want to anyway.

00:54:37.000 Again, my friend Ernst, you know, he said this many times.

00:54:39.800 He knows, he says, like, we're good at assimilating.

00:54:42.200 The minute we leave South Africa, as I think Bogbeef was bringing up earlier in two generations,

00:54:46.900 that's going to be gone.

00:54:47.900 Like we're not going to be Afrikaners anymore.

00:54:49.560 We're not going to be able to keep our language.

00:54:51.260 We're not going to be able to keep our, our, our, uh, culture.

00:54:54.400 We're going to just become Americans.

00:54:56.220 And that's a good thing for those that actually come here because you want them to assimilate.

00:55:00.380 That's the whole point that they would be good at assimilating.

00:55:02.720 That's, that's what refugees are supposed to do.

00:55:04.840 But that is something that a lot of Afrikaners don't want to do because they don't want to

00:55:08.740 lose their culture.

00:55:09.380 They don't want to lose their sense of being a separate people.

00:55:13.280 And so in that case, you know, you're only taking in a few handful that actually are probably

00:55:18.120 going to want to assimilate.

00:55:19.160 And so, uh, again, while I would prefer not to have, uh, the United States become a refugee

00:55:23.700 camp, uh, you can understand while if you're going to have them, you know, that this would

00:55:27.520 be the case, I suppose.

00:55:28.780 Here's 500 years of your literature, language, uh, uh, religion, history, culture.

00:55:34.820 And, uh, here's, here's an apartment, Albuquerque gets you pouring up, get you a fan dual account.

00:55:41.780 And, um, it's all in the trash.

00:55:43.680 No, I mean, that sounds really grim, but I mean, I just don't like how flippant people

00:55:47.640 are like, yeah, just get, just, just, just, just leave, man.

00:55:50.940 Just, just leave, bro.

00:55:51.920 It's no problem.

00:55:52.600 Just, just leave.

00:55:53.900 I just don't like that.

00:55:56.700 That, that is not what America is, by the way.

00:55:59.540 There's entirely consistent.

00:56:01.020 I mean, they'll be poor.

00:56:02.300 Like they're, they're not, you know, like they're, it's going to be a millions of people

00:56:05.580 that'll be poor.

00:56:06.180 They'll have nothing.

00:56:07.300 They don't, they're not going to let them leave with anything.

00:56:09.580 Okay.

00:56:11.140 Uh, there is an entirely consistent view on this.

00:56:14.300 And so, yeah, if we want to get together and agree, we're not, we're going to close the

00:56:17.880 borders.

00:56:18.200 We're not bringing in anybody.

00:56:19.720 That's fine.

00:56:20.520 But if we're not doing that, and I don't want to hear this shit from leftists about you,

00:56:25.300 you can't bring in these people.

00:56:27.220 Uh, actually you can, if they want to come here, you can bring all 3 million Afrikaners

00:56:31.920 here and you can put it in the Loudoun County.

00:56:33.760 Cause that's what the Democrats do.

00:56:35.600 That benefits them.

00:56:36.840 Um, that's just how we're going to, that's how things roll.

00:56:40.120 That's how politics works.

00:56:41.340 So, you know, if they don't like that, then okay, we'll get together and we'll pass a bill

00:56:46.880 and we'll reform the refugee system.

00:56:49.020 But until that day, it's not going to be, you bring in every single person who like has

00:56:53.640 below the median, the median global wage to the United States, but people who are being

00:57:00.400 active, people who have their government doing chants about how let's kill whitey.

00:57:05.020 They, they're not refugees.

00:57:06.400 Full of people.

00:57:07.000 Yeah.

00:57:07.640 Yeah.

00:57:07.960 And I, yeah, I, I, I co-sign everything you say about the Boers.

00:57:12.400 Uh, stay there.

00:57:13.680 If, if you want to, if you, if you think that you can do that, I'm more power to you.

00:57:18.800 I'm as a conservative person.

00:57:21.040 I want everybody to be their essential selves and distinct or whatever.

00:57:25.100 But if you do want to leave, then yeah, bring them here and no, they're not going to, they're

00:57:30.340 not going to be living in an apartment in Albuquerque and they're not going to be Netflix

00:57:34.700 goblins.

00:57:35.420 That's, that's those people, those that's not going to happen with those people, man.

00:57:40.460 You know that.

00:57:41.080 Okay.

00:57:41.360 There's a nuance point here.

00:57:42.800 So if they leave under the conditions of, Hey, just get out, just get out, just leave,

00:57:48.220 just leave with the coat on your back now, or they're, or we're all going to die.

00:57:51.940 If they leave under those conditions, they're going to be, have a very, very large deck stacked

00:57:58.580 up against them.

00:57:59.440 It's going to be very, very difficult.

00:58:01.080 And by the way, they have the whole families to feed above what if, if by the way, under

00:58:07.200 the, if things are nicer for them, if they're not being threatened with having everything

00:58:12.420 stolen, they can leave with their stuff and they wouldn't be just running away with the

00:58:21.220 shirt on their back.

00:58:22.220 They would, if, if, if it, I'm sure they would know, like there's a, I don't know if you get

00:58:28.120 what I'm saying here.

00:58:31.040 You're saying if they, if they are just purely in refugee status, they have no roots, they

00:58:36.060 have no community, they have no money.

00:58:38.020 Uh, then the, the, you know, desire or the, the chance of them becoming, uh, dependent or,

00:58:46.220 you know, fading into, uh, you know, a more bug man existence is higher.

00:58:50.580 If they're able to stabilize themselves, have set families, then, then they're going to do

00:58:55.420 much better.

00:58:55.980 And, and I think ultimately, uh, the, the point is that these, if, if you have a population,

00:59:03.640 as you pointed out, Bog, that is the one, they are the ones who are putting, setting

00:59:08.440 up the night watches.

00:59:09.200 They are the ones that are organizing.

00:59:11.340 They are the ones who are, uh, defending their culture and, you know, educating their people

00:59:16.160 and building, uh, these different, uh, institutions to protect their language of these things.

00:59:21.360 It's, it's less likely, I think with that level of industriousness that they'll probably

00:59:26.060 just kind of disappear into the U S.

00:59:29.000 But again, that's something that, that Ernst is worried about.

00:59:31.560 So I, you know, I'm not going to completely dismiss that possibility either way.

00:59:35.960 The point is, as Merrick said, if you're going to, if we're going to close the border, let's

00:59:40.760 close the border.

00:59:41.520 Great.

00:59:42.140 Let's, let's have this consistent, uh, position.

00:59:45.220 However, if we're not closing the border and we are letting people in, then obviously

00:59:48.940 these are the kind of people you'd want in, as opposed to perhaps just importing every

00:59:53.940 poor person in every war torn place across, uh, the world.

00:59:58.160 But we have a number of questions of the audience stacking up guys.

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01:00:56.200 All right.

01:00:56.680 Let's switch over to the questions of the people here real quick.

01:00:59.940 Uh, Cooper Ruto says, so what you guys are saying is the left isn't putting the woke

01:01:04.900 away, but I thought they are going to class warfare any day now.

01:01:08.640 So interestingly enough, yes, this is in America, a, um, an observation that, uh, obviously

01:01:14.060 the woke has not been put away.

01:01:15.260 In fact, this is as woke as you can get, uh, and clearly on its face though, uh, at the

01:01:20.580 moment, Keir Starmer in Britain is trying to switch over to being a, uh, anti immigration,

01:01:26.520 uh, guy, uh, like he's talking about how he's going to crack down.

01:01:30.020 Now I don't think he's actually going to do it, but it is interesting that, uh, he is so

01:01:33.760 soulless that he, he can pivot on that.

01:01:35.640 So I don't know, maybe, maybe in the UK, they're going to make that effort, um, or

01:01:39.560 they're at least they're going to make noises about it here in the U S uh, yeah, not so

01:01:43.440 much.

01:01:43.720 We've, we've heard people on the left say that they need to switch over to class

01:01:47.360 struggle, but, uh, I don't think it's taken, I don't think it's taken in the U S I think

01:01:50.880 the, the gay race communism as the foundation of leftism in the U S has, has cemented itself

01:01:56.080 too deeply to pivot back to just kind of like, well, we support unions or something.

01:02:00.240 I don't think that's going to work.

01:02:01.740 So this is not, and I like, I should have said this, like, uh, you, you asked us about

01:02:07.740 this and I kind of ducked it because it's, it's, it's boring and technical and it's not,

01:02:14.600 this is not like the most pounded out parts of patron stuff, but I still believe it.

01:02:20.180 And I think it's, it's well-founded that if you are a smaller country in partnership with

01:02:29.240 a empire, big country, your politics are, can change on a dime.

01:02:36.520 This has to do with patron stuff.

01:02:38.360 Basically like why was the, why there's a, this is a, a model.

01:02:42.580 Now, if you're, if you're in England, this doesn't feel this way.

01:02:46.780 You just feel like, wow, everybody, all the, all my politicians, these psychotically devoted

01:02:51.060 people to, uh, the leftism and the voters tell them we don't like this, but they just

01:02:55.980 don't do what they say.

01:02:57.340 They're the patronage thing here is that, well, well, first off, like how does the U S how

01:03:03.740 does the empire influence these countries in today's day and age, they send people over

01:03:09.160 there with a suitcase of cash.

01:03:10.340 So like, uh, we saw this with USA, like, so the mermaid, the big trans organization

01:03:15.480 over there, that was paid for by USA now, but more specifically, like if a politician

01:03:20.360 in England is getting money, he's on, he's getting United States money and he is competing

01:03:28.600 with people that are playing with England money.

01:03:31.260 If you guys ever seen what, like a software engineer makes in England, they don't make

01:03:36.420 United States money.

01:03:37.460 They make England money.

01:03:38.540 And I know they're, they're the pound does well, but they have a lot less money than

01:03:43.420 Americans.

01:03:44.040 And so you can't beat a guy at politics unless he's, unless he, I don't know, eats a baby

01:03:53.280 on TV or something.

01:03:54.400 If, if he is, if he is buying favors and he's greasing palms with us money and you're doing

01:04:00.500 it with the local money, uh, this is kind of, this is a, uh, there's a big patron there.

01:04:06.140 And that's like, this is why the, uh, the little dictators in the hell countries never

01:04:10.660 go away once they get in with the thing.

01:04:12.760 But that, because of that, you can experience rapid changes.

01:04:19.320 If the money stops coming because it was all kind of fake.

01:04:24.340 Like, like remember the, the, the, the mermaids, like they got like a hundred million bucks

01:04:30.080 a year from, from Los Angeles that they don't get the money anymore.

01:04:34.460 And by the way, like you, you, it makes you like, do you turn down that money?

01:04:40.380 I mean, like you're turning down like, like so much money that it like warps your little

01:04:45.800 country.

01:04:46.140 Like you, you can't make that much money anywhere else other than the, the, the big state just

01:04:51.020 sort of throwing into your little place that's almost like a cargo cult thing.

01:04:55.080 Like you, this, this, it's, they're operating at a different scale.

01:04:59.480 Right.

01:05:00.100 Okay.

01:05:00.400 I mean, I want to address the actual comment for a second.

01:05:03.660 So the left putting woke away, like the lips kind of put the woke away after reconstruction

01:05:09.200 because it wasn't really getting the job done politically and it came back.

01:05:14.820 Not coincidentally, people were being kidnapped.

01:05:17.660 Yeah.

01:05:17.860 It was a real little, they were losing it.

01:05:24.940 That's it's all fake.

01:05:26.040 It didn't happen.

01:05:26.640 And also it was a good thing.

01:05:27.700 So, uh, yeah.

01:05:28.440 So in the middle of the 20th century, uh, it came back because there was a migration patterns

01:05:35.200 and suddenly you had these new built in blocks of voters and political machines.

01:05:40.580 And so it was a no brainer.

01:05:43.220 That's, we should, that's what we should focus on now.

01:05:45.900 But why is the class, why is the dream of these people always, ah, well, we'll do class

01:05:50.640 war instead because like the, the 19th century, early 20th century dream of, uh, workers revolution

01:05:59.060 exists for something for them to say.

01:06:02.500 That's not incredibly embarrassing because like to be, to be like David Hogg or whatever in

01:06:08.920 the Democrat party.

01:06:09.580 If you were, if you were speaking, honestly, it would, you would sound insane.

01:06:13.940 Like, yeah, uh, I'm the representative of the kill whitey party.

01:06:17.500 Uh, here, here's, here's a relevant example to the, to the region.

01:06:21.320 It's not South Africa, but it's Rhodesia.

01:06:23.080 The last, I think, uh, the last lib prime minister of Rhodesia, but I could be wrong

01:06:28.040 about this.

01:06:28.300 He was the lib lead, uh, the, the white lib leader in Rhodesia to the extent that he actually

01:06:33.860 helped organize a boycott against his own country to, to overthrow the government.

01:06:38.820 After, after, uh, Mugabe took power, he remained in government.

01:06:44.380 Eventually, by the end of his life, he was stripped of his citizenship by one of the guys

01:06:50.460 that he helped get into power.

01:06:51.900 And, uh, Mugabe had his daughter raped.

01:06:56.660 If those are the stakes for you supporting a party, a party, any kind of political group

01:07:01.980 explicitly designed to, to like kill your own race, you have to have some other excuse

01:07:08.400 that you can, you can say, oh, actually, this is all about, uh, way, uh, wage labor and theory

01:07:13.560 of value, shit like that.

01:07:14.700 You have to have some excuse because otherwise you sound like an insane person as for what

01:07:19.460 they really want.

01:07:20.260 I think their dream is to exist as like a tiny minority of, uh, puppet masters or whatever.

01:07:28.580 And they can live the high life as the elite and all their, all their political enemies of

01:07:34.140 their same race are dead or dispossessed.

01:07:37.040 And that's what they would like.

01:07:39.200 You can look at, look through history and see how that works out.

01:07:42.460 It doesn't, you're, you're always, they're always going to come for you in the end, but

01:07:46.600 that's why their rhetoric makes absolutely no sense.

01:07:49.440 Why it has no bearing on the 21st century and why you just can't, you can't fathom why

01:07:55.280 they would keep you chasing, chasing this dream over and over again.

01:07:59.500 Cause it's just an excuse.

01:08:00.540 It's some bullshit that they can say so they don't have to admit the truth.

01:08:04.300 I love that they, this one brings up the, the death of the board thing.

01:08:08.220 They have some answer.

01:08:09.300 Like we used to, uh, obviously people, there was a joke on Twitter whenever people would

01:08:14.500 say like, and we found a swastika here, you know, blah, blah, blah, uh, a right-wing

01:08:18.800 joke would be like, oh, you don't understand.

01:08:20.920 That's a, that's a Hindu symbol for peace or whatever.

01:08:24.660 It's not what that means.

01:08:25.680 They have, you know, they have an answer for this.

01:08:27.460 They're like, yeah, yeah.

01:08:28.160 They have their own way to mystify this chant as it's very complex.

01:08:32.000 It's talking about some kind of racial injustice and it was, it's the metaphor.

01:08:36.020 Kill the boar is a metaphor for something, the boar in your heart, you know, racism in

01:08:40.220 your heart, a jingle for a cereal in the, you know, in the eighties, I mean, so the thing

01:08:44.940 about like the, the, there's a big battle over what you should identify as to in politics.

01:08:54.040 I have a kind of alternative answer that is, uh, well, I think it's, it's at least

01:08:59.380 faithful to political science.

01:09:02.300 Uh, and it kind of, uh, cause what you get is that there's people on the right that say

01:09:07.780 like, you must, you can only, you could, you'd only, you should only rally around certain

01:09:14.980 identities.

01:09:15.500 And if you don't, you you're a sellout to blah, blah, blah.

01:09:18.620 And the guys in the, um, in, in these sort of center right critics say, well, let's, let's

01:09:23.020 not, let's not cheat all of our other, uh, super chatters by getting to their super chat

01:09:27.020 before you read them.

01:09:27.980 Okay.

01:09:29.060 Your, your, your comment is valid, but it'll be more valid in two, two super chats.

01:09:32.860 So let's, let's get there.

01:09:33.780 Okay.

01:09:34.420 Uh, Bram, uh, Zwingle says, I'm glad we're getting two of these families in Iowa.

01:09:40.240 And then Tim Miller says, is any non-white, not a refugee?

01:09:44.440 No, of course not.

01:09:45.260 Every, every, it doesn't matter how much money they make.

01:09:47.580 It doesn't matter.

01:09:48.800 Uh, you know, it's not actually got anything to do.

01:09:51.900 It's all just skin color.

01:09:52.800 It's all the family guy, you know, skin is so, you know, refugee or not holding up the color

01:09:57.300 palette scale.

01:09:58.200 They're temporarily embarrassed Americans.

01:10:00.560 That's right.

01:10:01.040 That's right.

01:10:01.940 All right.

01:10:02.220 So here's the, here's the one that you're trying to answer here about beef.

01:10:04.660 Uh, Matt Gritier says, did you see, uh, I'll, I'll see Joel Berry's tweet back and forth

01:10:09.060 with Matt Walsh about this.

01:10:10.400 He said, the left doesn't hate white people.

01:10:12.360 They hate American values.

01:10:13.780 Why is it so hard for conservatives to acknowledge, uh, uh, to acknowledge it is our skin color?

01:10:20.980 Uh, sorry.

01:10:21.720 Yeah.

01:10:21.900 I had read this and I just, no, I figured that's why I was like, hold on one second.

01:10:25.320 Let me, let me pull it up before we answer it.

01:10:27.520 So this is just a math problem.

01:10:30.840 When it comes to politics, you got a number that you need to hit.

01:10:33.700 And so like, by the way, if you go to prison, you might think it's, it's immoral to, to,

01:10:40.340 uh, rally around a racial identity, but you will in fact be rallying a racial, a racial

01:10:45.320 identity, or you can choose to live in the hole forever.

01:10:47.760 Uh, and you'll go insane.

01:10:50.060 Uh, but I mean, like, by the way, if you are doing city council politics in San Francisco,

01:10:57.220 they're identifying as like, they like, we're the NIMBYs and they hate the NIMBYs.

01:11:04.040 And that that's not in the Bible either.

01:11:06.780 That's not like, you know, they'll say like, you can't identify as white because it's not

01:11:11.000 in the beaker.

01:11:11.740 It's not in the Bible.

01:11:12.640 Well, the NIMBY is not in the Bible.

01:11:14.480 And because of the math there, they don't have, it's not like, uh, if everybody there

01:11:22.040 is a super lib, well, you're still are going to compete for power and stuff.

01:11:26.400 So I don't like people saying without the context, oh, you should identify as this or

01:11:33.400 that, like to, because, well, it depends.

01:11:36.580 Let's, let's, let's see what's going on in, in this particular, uh, voting thing, because

01:11:42.460 it might be super relevant.

01:11:44.020 Uh, but you know, identifying as a, as a German means is, is one thing in Germany.

01:11:51.380 Uh, that would be a whole lot of people.

01:11:53.640 If you identify as a German in Florida, uh, I'm not going to bet any money on your candidate.

01:11:59.220 I don't think, I don't think he's going to win too many.

01:12:00.880 There's not enough Germans to do that.

01:12:02.900 I don't think that'd be an effective way to, to advance politically, politically.

01:12:07.200 You might want to throw parties, brew beer and stuff, but in terms of politics, it's a

01:12:13.200 political question.

01:12:13.640 Joe, your, your, your abstract ideology doesn't always get to determine your shelling point.

01:12:19.440 Like you might not want race to be salient.

01:12:21.620 I might agree with you, but we don't get to take the terms that the other team is using.

01:12:27.000 Right.

01:12:27.340 Like, and you can't, you can't lie about their motivations and hope that that becomes their

01:12:31.300 motivation.

01:12:31.780 Like it's clear what it is.

01:12:33.580 And so let's be honest about it and then deal with the ramifications rather than being

01:12:37.480 like, well, I don't want to deal with this issue.

01:12:39.120 So I'm going to lie about what the other side believes so that I can have this debate on

01:12:43.620 my terms.

01:12:44.200 Like that's not actually how that works either in just basic rationality or realistic political

01:12:50.180 calculus.

01:12:50.720 Now just come out the gate saying that people are blasphemers and they don't believe the

01:12:56.940 Bible enough and just do that.

01:12:59.180 Just don't, you know, that's a better way than the easier than counting up the math for

01:13:03.220 how many votes you need.

01:13:04.000 Well, this is an easy one.

01:13:05.420 Joel's playing, Joel's playing word games.

01:13:07.680 Let's just reframe it and it's self-evident.

01:13:10.920 I say, oh, they don't hate Americans.

01:13:12.840 They just hate American values.

01:13:14.440 There's no difference.

01:13:15.440 You're saying we talk that we hate the, the thing, the person we just hate their

01:13:20.480 essential qualities.

01:13:21.600 Well, that's, that's a, that's a lie.

01:13:23.580 And if you're, if, why is Joel lying about that?

01:13:26.420 Well, that because Joel's not on your side.

01:13:30.200 And also it, the, this is a terrible idea.

01:13:33.500 This is a terrible thing that a lot of people in the right who are trying to avoid dealing

01:13:38.900 with power or reality or don't want to win at politics.

01:13:42.000 They, they love to pretend that like values are just this completely abstract thing that

01:13:48.260 has never been tied to an actual way of being right.

01:13:51.220 Like the, the statement you said that actually these are defining characteristics of who you

01:13:55.560 are.

01:13:55.940 Well, that's not what liberals believe.

01:13:58.280 And Joel is fundamentally liberal.

01:14:00.540 And I mean, like classically liberal in the sense that he thinks all commitments are

01:14:05.540 chosen.

01:14:06.100 Like that there, there's nothing, there's nothing inherent to people.

01:14:09.700 They don't, their values in no way actually emanate from the lives that they live.

01:14:13.980 They're all like in this veil of ignorance or original position.

01:14:16.840 And then they like cast their vote in, you know, and then we form society out of those

01:14:21.680 things, but actually no, the American values codified in the constitution and the declaration

01:14:27.880 of independence, they came from a way of life that had existed for hundreds of years before

01:14:32.700 they were written down.

01:14:33.640 Like the writing down isn't when America starts America begins far before that.

01:14:38.820 At some point they find it necessary to write down how they are separate and a people

01:14:43.060 apart from others, uh, but they are separate and a people apart from others before the

01:14:47.920 ideology is codified.

01:14:49.260 And again, this is the order of operations that don't, they don't want to acknowledge.

01:14:53.900 And so we ended up in this place over and over again.

01:14:56.380 Yeah.

01:14:56.900 Nick Flint has pinned the, uh, the Chinese exclusion act.

01:15:02.740 Most assuredly he, the 1790, uh, you know, some citizen act was, yeah, he was directly

01:15:08.620 pinned by droppers.

01:15:09.660 These guys, they always referenced like, well, we need to just go back to the, uh, the

01:15:13.040 old stuff.

01:15:13.680 And you know, back my mind, I'm thinking, okay, yeah.

01:15:15.760 Oh, they're like, you know, cause we don't want to be Nazis.

01:15:17.480 Okay.

01:15:17.740 Let's adopt the immigration policies we had when we were literally at war with Nazi Germany.

01:15:23.380 Why don't we do that?

01:15:24.520 No, you can't do that.

01:15:25.780 Cause you'll be a Nazi.

01:15:26.860 You will be a, you have sold your soul to Adolf Hitler.

01:15:30.420 People talking about returning to tradition or returning to American values are usually

01:15:34.660 talking about the values of the 1990s.

01:15:36.880 They do not care about actual American values or the history or tradition involved.

01:15:40.640 Uh, Broman Hank says, most white people I know here do not want to leave.

01:15:45.140 Personally, I would only take refugee status as an absolute last resort.

01:15:48.900 And yeah, obviously that's going to be different for every man, man.

01:15:51.680 And by the way, uh, you know, you know, safety for you, uh, hopefully, you know, stay safe,

01:15:56.540 be, you know, be wise.

01:15:57.980 But I think that's true, you know, as you, as I've said, uh, you know, obviously I've

01:16:01.600 not talked to the entire country, but to South Africa, uh, Afrikaners who have, I have had

01:16:06.560 discussions with, this is something I hear on a, on a regular basis.

01:16:09.400 There might be the point where they absolutely have to hit the eject button, uh, but they'd

01:16:13.420 like to stay as long as possible.

01:16:14.760 And, uh, I respect that.

01:16:16.160 Maybe that won't ultimately work out, but I mean, you know, this is the same reason people

01:16:21.060 tell me all the time, Hey, we should just bail out of America and go, you know, somewhere

01:16:24.880 else.

01:16:25.200 And my answer is no, I live here.

01:16:27.240 This is my home.

01:16:27.960 Like we will be fighting for it.

01:16:29.320 And I totally respect others who have the same outlook.

01:16:33.600 Uh, the ultra mega man says left us when they hear death to the board cheer, but when they

01:16:38.180 hear about ensuing famine, they ask, why didn't we do anything?

01:16:42.060 Yes.

01:16:42.380 Again, it's completely ignoring the obvious, uh, that's taking place, but then it's critical

01:16:47.620 that you have intervention when it's any other problem.

01:16:50.380 My question about, about that.

01:16:53.740 I mean, so someone, I, someone got that in, got into me with that on, on Twitter and they

01:16:59.140 said, well, no, we gotta, we're going to return this to, to the native blacks that, that own

01:17:03.360 the land, blah, blah.

01:17:04.560 And it sounded like they were saying we were, this land was going to be partitioned out of

01:17:10.980 this rainbow state and, and, and there was going to be chopped up into like, oh, we, we

01:17:17.020 need to give self-determination for a ethnic group.

01:17:21.540 And, and, and, but I don't believe that that's what you guys want at all.

01:17:25.200 You want to get cut out of the South Africa that's hooked in the global market with the,

01:17:30.600 with the, with the diamonds and gold stuff.

01:17:32.520 I don't really believe that.

01:17:34.020 Uh, I like, I would love to hear an answer for that, that how, that this is not going

01:17:41.080 to end up with DNC handing land to their friends for political favors.

01:17:46.620 I mean, but they, they, they talk like, well, look, we've got to get, they talk like, like

01:17:55.020 it's like a, like the Curtis question or something.

01:17:57.160 You know what I mean?

01:17:57.540 Like, like, well, we got to give them a place.

01:18:00.140 Like, is that what they want?

01:18:02.200 Are you going to, I don't believe they do.

01:18:05.500 I mean, that there's no answers for this stuff.

01:18:10.140 Uh, paladin YYZ says, uh, is, uh, is it too naive to expect Elon and the Dutch government

01:18:17.200 to use their power to rectify the situation?

01:18:19.440 Yeah.

01:18:19.640 Unfortunately, I think it is.

01:18:20.740 I mean, Elon has obviously spoken out on Twitter.

01:18:23.800 Um, you, you, he has explicitly talked about the evils of the ANC and the dangers to South

01:18:29.820 African, uh, farmers.

01:18:31.120 That said, um, I don't, I doubt you're going to see the Dutch government or any kind of

01:18:36.180 official action, though, to be fair, uh, Elon has obviously had a decent impact on the

01:18:41.360 American regime and it has taken direct action, uh, to, to at least some extent.

01:18:46.340 So, uh, there is some influence there.

01:18:48.500 Have you guys ever seen what the profit margins are on like a bushel of beans?

01:18:52.720 I cannot say that.

01:18:54.580 I have, I like you, you look at it and be like, yeah, we're going to get that farmland.

01:19:00.160 It's like, you really want to farm.

01:19:02.180 You really want to keep these tractors going and stuff and make like a, make like a nickel

01:19:06.780 off a bushel of beans.

01:19:07.940 You don't want to do that.

01:19:09.320 Well, I don't think, I don't think the doing of the job is the problem in South Africa,

01:19:13.580 but I, I hear you.

01:19:15.180 Um, uh, Mel Gibson says after, uh, or Mel Gibson after four beers says, if I had my way,

01:19:19.840 you would be our leader or it.

01:19:21.060 Well, thank you very much, man.

01:19:21.980 I appreciate that.

01:19:23.280 And, uh, uh, uh, K Max McDonald says, uh, the media's love for Haitian, Somalian, and,

01:19:29.680 uh, refugees from everywhere else, but hatred, uh, for these refugees.

01:19:33.040 What other reason is there other than they are white and speaking English?

01:19:36.860 Oh, but well, because they're racist, right?

01:19:39.000 Which probably is tied to their being white and speaking English, but that, that's, that's

01:19:42.740 the idea is they represent this apartheid regime.

01:19:45.420 Uh, they, they have this genetic guilt for existing as white people in South Africa.

01:19:50.460 And so they are forever tainted with this unforgivable sin.

01:19:53.280 And that's, that's the reason they can't.

01:19:56.320 And by the way, we're not allowed to, um, uh, uh, help out the, uh, uh, the Haitian government

01:20:02.880 with their, uh, uh, insurgency problems because, uh, they have, the people are both in fact

01:20:09.460 refugees from a failed state, but also we, we support the, uh, uh, the glorious leadership

01:20:15.200 and long live, uh, uh, uh, Colonel barbecue.

01:20:19.280 Yeah.

01:20:20.140 I mean, that, that would be the actual based option.

01:20:23.680 Like you need to support the flourishing and the, like the, the essential beauty of the regime

01:20:28.820 of general buck naked barbecue chicken.

01:20:31.460 I'm like, yeah, that, that is, would be our dream.

01:20:34.080 It's not to make the entire world look like America.

01:20:37.120 It would be like, everybody should be their own individual thing.

01:20:40.100 And sometimes that thing is terrible, but that's you doing you.

01:20:44.420 So we support you general barbecue.

01:20:46.520 Yeah.

01:20:47.000 I mean, you're not joking.

01:20:47.960 I mean, this, if everyone saw the speech Trump gave in Saudi Arabia, it was really good.

01:20:52.980 And this long road to, I mean, I was stunned by the speech.

01:20:56.920 I could not believe I've heard Americans saying that this long road started in Pyongyang.

01:21:03.980 You think Dennis Rodman with Dennis Rodman, the star of double impact.

01:21:10.720 Yes.

01:21:11.240 Is the, the key, the key to our, our, our, uh, uh, uh, uh, foreign affairs, uh, restoration.

01:21:18.320 Yeah.

01:21:18.560 Well, he wanted Michael Jordan.

01:21:20.240 We, and we said, well, we, we got a guy that played on the team with Michael, Michael Jordan

01:21:24.220 home.

01:21:25.280 I'll take it.

01:21:26.180 I'll take it.

01:21:26.700 If we get Jean-Claude Van Damme in the deal.

01:21:28.420 If we can, if we get both as our, uh, our key foreign ambassadors in the history books,

01:21:32.840 I'll, I'll allow it.

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The Auron MacIntyre Show - May 14, 2025

The Unhinged Leftist Hatred of White Refugees ｜ Guest： Good Ol Boyz ｜ 5⧸14⧸25

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