The Auron MacIntyre Show - August 12, 2024


The United Kingdom is the Total State| 8⧸12⧸24


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 10 minutes

Words per Minute

169.83054

Word Count

12,009

Sentence Count

836

Misogynist Sentences

6

Hate Speech Sentences

21


Summary

The UK is a perfect case study of what the total state looks like when it really emerges. The government in the United Kingdom is trying to take control of the citizens of the country, and it s doing so by cracking down on freedom and freedom-loving citizens.


Transcript

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00:00:30.620 Hey everybody, how's it going?
00:00:32.520 Thanks for joining me this afternoon.
00:00:34.240 I am Oren McIntyre.
00:00:36.980 So I already did one episode, one livestream conversation about what is happening in the UK.
00:00:42.920 But I wanted to go ahead and dig deeper into the crisis in England right now.
00:00:48.380 Because things are pretty wild.
00:00:51.480 And unfortunately, I'm not particularly happy about this, but it is the case.
00:00:56.540 The UK kind of provides a perfect case study of what the total state looks like when it really emerges.
00:01:03.820 The entire point of my book, The Total State, was that while we think of tyranny as something that comes with authoritarianism and all these higher passions,
00:01:14.000 it turns out that the liberal democracies around the West are more than happy to go ahead and use tyranny to control their subjects.
00:01:23.780 You don't need a strong man, a centralized power into one individual to rule your people through terror.
00:01:31.940 In fact, a distributed oligarchy posing itself as a democracy is more than capable of doing so.
00:01:40.300 And what's really interesting is the battle over information.
00:01:44.720 The UK recognizes that social media is actually the battlefield in a lot of ways and have implemented a massive crackdown.
00:01:53.260 You see people like Elon Musk challenging this sovereignty and that has resulted in reciprocal threats from multiple bodies,
00:02:02.280 including the European Union and some officials in the UK.
00:02:05.880 So why don't we dive into this case study of how the United Kingdom took on these aspects of the total state,
00:02:13.380 why the global liberal order is closing its eye, turning its eye away from the tyranny that is being visited upon the citizens of the United Kingdom
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00:03:55.180 So like I said, things have gotten out of control in the United Kingdom.
00:04:01.500 It's very interesting because the UK government has made this out to be some invention of the far right.
00:04:10.020 It's just something that these crazy far right people are doing.
00:04:13.640 Of course, much of the American media hasn't even bothered to comment on this, really.
00:04:18.560 They've made sure to keep radio silence on a lot of these issues.
00:04:22.420 And when they do mention it, they go ahead and go along with the narrative that the UK government and the UK media is putting out.
00:04:30.820 This is more or less what you would expect if there was a loose coordination between many of these governments,
00:04:37.400 an agreement and understanding about the way that they should rule their nations.
00:04:41.780 As long as there's an ideological adherence across not just the United Kingdom,
00:04:47.300 but multiple different countries inside what we tend to call the global American empire, the GAE.
00:04:53.680 And this is a very interesting thing to observe because I wrote this book, The Total State.
00:04:59.720 And unfortunately, a lot of what I wrote has played itself out.
00:05:04.620 It's something we can observe in the real world.
00:05:06.400 One of the things I've learned about political theory is it's nice for things to exist in this very theoretical bubble.
00:05:13.200 You can do a lot there.
00:05:14.980 I obviously enjoy political theory.
00:05:17.440 I find it fascinating.
00:05:18.660 I work on it myself.
00:05:20.140 But there's also a moment where the rubber needs to meet the road.
00:05:23.700 We need to actually assess, does our theory hold up?
00:05:27.000 Does it make sense?
00:05:28.060 And this is particularly important because a number of people have called whether or not so-called elite theory
00:05:35.020 is actually applicable here, whether it's been called into question,
00:05:40.000 because several people, including my friend, academic agent, have applied it in a particular way,
00:05:46.300 a way that I've kind of disagreed with from the beginning.
00:05:49.300 We have a cigar bet on this, and I haven't really rubbed it in his face because his country is kind of on fire at the moment.
00:05:56.220 But events have moved things pretty decisively in the favor of my understanding of how to apply this theory.
00:06:03.920 And I want to run through several of the issues, what's going on, how the total state is organizing itself,
00:06:11.180 why it's fighting back the way that it is, why we see compliance from other nations who normally would speak out about human rights violations and all these things.
00:06:19.220 I want to get into this because, like I said, I think it's very important to explain how the theory actually gets applied.
00:06:25.520 This is not just some free-floating thing up in the air.
00:06:29.080 This is a real understanding, a real model of how power works itself out in the world as we are observing it.
00:06:36.800 That's the only reason to even do this kind of theory because it's useful here.
00:06:41.220 So to dive in from the beginning, for those who are unfamiliar with the events that set this off,
00:06:47.760 there was a stabbing spree in the United Kingdom.
00:06:52.260 We didn't know a lot of information at the time that it happened.
00:06:56.440 That was not an accident for two reasons.
00:07:00.360 One, the suspect was a 17-year-old, which, as I understand under UK law,
00:07:06.180 means that you can't discuss certain details of the crime.
00:07:10.080 They have the protection of a minor under UK law.
00:07:13.300 The other reason is that the UK government was very aware of the touchy situation they have inside their country.
00:07:23.060 The people of the United Kingdom have had to deal with a large amount of migrant crime
00:07:29.400 that has largely gone unpunished or underpunished for basically a decade at this point.
00:07:36.000 The people of the United Kingdom have repeatedly voted through the democratic mechanism to reduce mass migration.
00:07:46.200 They left the European Union for this reason.
00:07:49.460 That was the whole reason for the Brexit vote.
00:07:51.080 That was the main driver.
00:07:52.800 And it has been the repeated call of the people of the United Kingdom for a very long time.
00:07:58.560 So just like in the United States, pretty much everyone wants less immigration,
00:08:03.320 specifically illegal immigration in the United States, but less immigration overall.
00:08:08.120 And despite this agreement on both the left and the right for a very long time,
00:08:13.080 again in the UK and in the US, despite the votes of the people in the democratic process,
00:08:19.560 neither party would actually do anything.
00:08:22.660 The Conservatives, the Tories in the UK and Labour government,
00:08:28.900 they both, you know, the Tories talked a little bit about reducing immigration,
00:08:35.300 but they had no interest in doing it.
00:08:37.200 In fact, they increased it while they were in power.
00:08:39.920 And this is really when the average person in the UK got very angry.
00:08:44.520 You had to deal with a large amount of sexual violence, especially towards women.
00:08:49.860 People do not want to have to deal with crime that comes from immigrant communities.
00:09:00.220 You don't have to have those people there.
00:09:02.100 And so every crime committed by people who don't have to be in your country
00:09:05.520 is a crime you didn't have to have there.
00:09:07.500 And people were very tired of it.
00:09:09.320 And it wasn't just the crime, of course.
00:09:11.500 There's a much larger issue of do the people of the country
00:09:14.680 have the ability to make a determination on where their country is going?
00:09:19.440 And that's supposed to be the whole point of democracy, right?
00:09:21.460 That's the voice of the people, the popular sovereignty
00:09:24.480 is supposed to inform what the government actually does.
00:09:28.040 So the entire argument for a democracy is if the people don't want mass immigration,
00:09:33.180 if they don't think that their language, their customs, their nation,
00:09:38.000 their heritage, their tradition is worth sacrificing for a wider variety of takeout food,
00:09:44.080 then they can voice that opinion and it will be followed.
00:09:47.840 And yet consistently across multiple governments, not just in the UK or the US,
00:09:53.460 but many governments across the West, the elites just refuse to pay attention.
00:09:59.020 They don't care.
00:10:00.560 And so the people of England were pretty fed up with this.
00:10:04.640 The British are pretty fed up with this constant denial
00:10:07.580 of what they want to see happening in their country.
00:10:11.240 And so you end up in this situation where you get one straw, one straw, one straw, one straw,
00:10:17.180 and eventually a final straw just breaks the camel's back.
00:10:20.160 And that's what happened here.
00:10:21.620 You had a guy who came in to this children's dance class.
00:10:26.820 I guess they were doing something with Taylor Swift to dances.
00:10:29.940 And he ended up killing three children and wounding another eight.
00:10:34.880 And so this is a horrible and violent crime.
00:10:38.320 Now, it turned out that the guy in question, we eventually got some details.
00:10:42.860 I believe he was a second generation immigrant.
00:10:45.420 So he did not come there himself.
00:10:47.320 He was born in England, but his parents were immigrants.
00:10:51.120 It seems like he was from Rwanda.
00:10:53.180 Now, a lot of what has happened so far has been based around the Islamic community.
00:10:58.060 A large amount of the immigration to the UK has been the,
00:11:02.320 a lot of the tension has been the culture clash between the Islamic community and the British community.
00:11:09.240 It's not that there aren't other immigrants coming in,
00:11:13.180 but that has been the particular point of tension because obviously you have a vast cultural difference there.
00:11:18.460 You have a radically different religion where,
00:11:21.580 whose people are very strict about its adherence and often force that understanding onto others.
00:11:26.460 They often treat those from outside of their community as not really subject to the same moral benefits.
00:11:33.140 And so, for instance, sexually harassing a native British woman is treated much differently than if you harass,
00:11:41.200 say, another Pakistani woman if you're Pakistani.
00:11:44.440 And so they often get away inside their communities with violating the taboos of the wider British community
00:11:53.300 because it doesn't violate the laws of the Islamic community.
00:11:58.160 And they've also seen a double standard when it comes to policing.
00:12:02.920 A lot of British citizens receive much harsher penalties for much smaller crimes
00:12:09.120 than the ones that are perpetrated by Muslim immigrants who often get months or,
00:12:15.480 you know, very, very short prison sentences if they get prison sentences at all.
00:12:21.760 And so this has been an ongoing problem that the people of the United Kingdom have faced.
00:12:28.340 And they're just sick of it.
00:12:29.660 They're tired of it.
00:12:30.480 They've seen so many people go to jail for things like praying outside of abortion clinics silently.
00:12:36.640 There is one guy who went to jail for passing out stickers saying it's OK to be white.
00:12:42.240 This is the kind of thing that will get you sent to jail.
00:12:44.380 Making a joke on social media is a serious offense often in the UK.
00:12:50.340 And so, again, people are just they're fed up.
00:12:53.160 They're tired with it.
00:12:54.420 And when this guy came in and went on the stabbing spree, killed multiple children,
00:12:58.580 that was enough for a lot of people.
00:13:00.860 The details of whether or not that person was Muslim,
00:13:03.520 whether they were not themselves a first generation immigrant,
00:13:07.320 that was really secondary because this was a larger conflagration that had been tipped over,
00:13:14.660 that had been started really by a long string of abuses that the British government had carried out on its citizens.
00:13:21.420 Yeah, I'm going to make a lot of revolutionary war jokes here.
00:13:23.700 So the UK government had been very harsh on its citizens, its native citizens,
00:13:31.580 while actively favoring immigrant communities, which were often involved in far more crime,
00:13:38.140 especially far more heinous crimes.
00:13:40.160 And the British people were done with it.
00:13:41.720 So when this happened, you saw a big backlash.
00:13:44.340 And there were well over 30 large protests across the nation.
00:13:49.340 This is not just in one area, but is across multiple areas.
00:13:54.260 And in some cases, it was just peaceful protests, you know.
00:13:58.760 But there were a number of instances where things got violent,
00:14:02.240 where there was conflict, there were riots.
00:14:05.700 In some cases, firebombs were thrown.
00:14:07.560 I saw one piece of footage in Derry where they were throwing a firebomb.
00:14:11.780 I went to Europe for the first time a few years ago, spent a few weeks in the UK.
00:14:18.260 I went back last year, I believe, to speak at the Skildings event in the Oxfordshire area.
00:14:30.320 And so I'm not completely familiar with England, but I've been to Derry.
00:14:35.120 And Derry is not a huge city.
00:14:37.520 I mean, you know, it's not the tiniest city.
00:14:39.540 But this is not a place where you'd probably expect, like, large-scale violence or anything.
00:14:45.320 And to watch, you know, these kind of Molotov cocktails get thrown at police cruisers there
00:14:52.400 was kind of a wild thing to observe.
00:14:54.680 You kind of think of this as a pretty calm area.
00:15:02.960 You look at it as a relatively rural area around there.
00:15:08.280 This is not London.
00:15:09.640 You know, this is not one of these major cities.
00:15:11.740 And yet you still see this kind of outpouring here.
00:15:15.160 Now, the UK government has been cracking down severely against these people.
00:15:21.120 You see guys like Keir Starmer, the new prime minister, saying that this is going to ruin your life.
00:15:27.480 If you show up to any of these protests, if you're involved in any of these protests, reminder, kids, the government tracks your phone.
00:15:35.180 If you are present around this stuff, then you're going to regret this.
00:15:40.080 You know, he's making direct threats.
00:15:41.560 We've seen multiple people going to the jail that the British government has been bragging about the hundreds of people that it has been arresting in connection with these protests and riots.
00:15:53.780 So a government is a liberal Western democratic government is openly bragging about how many of its citizens it can gulag for wrong think.
00:16:06.380 That's really what's happening in the UK right now, which is a pretty wild thing to observe.
00:16:12.400 And it hasn't just been attendance to of these rallies.
00:16:16.220 Of course, free speech has been a direct target for the UK government.
00:16:22.480 Now, there is a large argument over whether or not the actual instantiation of the freedom of speech in the First Amendment is what is holding the United States back from being completely like this.
00:16:36.880 Or whether it is the more spiritual commitment to free speech in the United States that didn't quite exist in the same way in the UK.
00:16:48.900 I'm not going to give that debate right now.
00:16:50.800 But the point is that the UK, of course, a lot of the tradition of the freedom of speech, the right of the Englishman, is what the American tradition came out of.
00:17:00.500 The American patriots, the revolutionaries, were trying to secure their rights as citizens of England.
00:17:09.700 They felt like those were what was under attack.
00:17:12.360 And initially, they weren't even sure if they wanted independence.
00:17:15.380 They just wanted the rights that they thought that they were owed as Englishmen.
00:17:19.240 So this tradition of the First Amendment doesn't just pop into existence in the United States.
00:17:25.500 This is something that came over from the Anglo heritage of the kind of the first American founding fathers.
00:17:32.720 And the fact that this has deteriorated so severely in the UK has been pretty clear for a while now.
00:17:41.180 The UK has very stringent laws when it comes to social media posting.
00:17:45.720 People can get in serious trouble.
00:17:47.460 Again, just praying outside an abortion clinic quietly.
00:17:50.960 Though, again, in the United States, it's not that different at this point.
00:17:53.820 And things like that are banned.
00:17:57.160 Even the TV presentation in the UK has kind of an American.
00:18:02.060 America had this for a little while called the Fairness Doctrine, where you had to show a certain amount of viewpoint differentiation on every news channel.
00:18:09.760 But, of course, as we know, it's that manipulation of procedural outcomes which gives the managerial class its real power.
00:18:20.440 So a law that is bringing equal opportunity, free speech equally, actually just continuously turns into censorship for one side.
00:18:28.760 So they never really care that much if a left-wing outlet has a properly right-wing representative.
00:18:37.680 But they will crack down immediately on any more right-leaning outlet that does not have a hard-left representative.
00:18:45.540 And so over time, what this really means is you're required to have left-wing opinions on your right-wing outlets.
00:18:50.840 But you don't really need to have any opposing opinions on your left-wing outlets.
00:18:55.200 And there's a lot of that in the UK.
00:18:57.380 So some of the things that have happened so far, there have been, like I said, several media, several people who have been jailed for their social media posts.
00:19:08.640 One guy got 20 months for a social media post.
00:19:13.700 Now, he was in some sense advocating for violence there.
00:19:17.880 But the real differentiation between that post and other applications of the law is that there are several immigrants who have sexually harassed women, who have sexually assaulted women, these kind of things, and done violence towards Native people in the UK.
00:19:35.160 And they have received very small prison sentences, a few months, if anything at all.
00:19:40.920 This guy makes a post on social media.
00:19:42.820 Whether he should have been making that or not, he ends up with a much harsher sentence.
00:19:48.420 So we're seeing a two-tier system.
00:19:50.680 That's what our narco-tyranny has kind of been named in England.
00:19:55.020 From Sam Francis, we get the phrase narco-tyranny, where a government is using this complete violation.
00:20:03.020 Any idea of the rule of law is gone.
00:20:05.640 And the law is really only something you apply to your political enemies, where you allow your political client classes to get away with pretty much anything you want.
00:20:13.060 So selective application of law to benefit your political allies is something that always happens to some extent in any government.
00:20:20.980 But now it has gotten so severe and so clear that there's a complete class divide.
00:20:26.760 And the Native people of England are getting far harsher sentences for relatively minor violations of the law, as where those who are illegal immigrants or immigrants who came in, but the population does not want them there.
00:20:43.600 They're receiving much shorter sentences if they get anything at all.
00:20:49.700 So that's happening over there.
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00:21:24.500 A lot of the elite turn on the people of the UK.
00:21:28.540 I mean, the Archbishop of Canterbury is a lib for sure.
00:21:31.140 It always has been.
00:21:31.960 This is not new from the Archbishop.
00:21:35.080 But talking about how it's unchristian for people to not want large-scale immigration and the violence and other cultural disruption that comes with it, saying that's unchristian.
00:21:45.420 Just a complete turn against the people of Britain.
00:21:50.820 We've also seen people talk about how you could be responsible for just posting wrong information.
00:21:58.920 I want to play you a video clip here from Sky News where they're talking about a 55-year-old who ends up going to prison or getting charged just because some of the information in their social media post may have been wrong.
00:22:10.960 A woman has been arrested by Cheshire police in relation to an inaccurate information on social media about the attacker in the Southport murders.
00:22:23.520 It says a 55-year-old woman from near Chester was arrested earlier today, Thursday the 8th, of course, on suspicion of publishing written material to stir up racial hatred and false communications.
00:22:37.340 She is currently being held in police custody.
00:22:41.480 A chief superintendent.
00:22:43.260 So charged with just distributing information.
00:22:47.860 So if you share a social media post and you don't get everything right and they decide that this is because of racial hatred, which, of course, they're going to decide that's the case because the whole point is to punish anyone who opposes mass immigration, then you can go to jail.
00:23:04.120 You can go to jail as a 55-year-old woman.
00:23:07.780 Boomers don't have to be fed posting on Facebook.
00:23:10.620 Just getting the information slightly wrong.
00:23:13.940 And, in fact, it extends far more than that.
00:23:16.980 They are saying the government is actually threatening people who are just reposting something.
00:23:23.620 So you don't even have to be the originator of the post.
00:23:25.800 If you see a post on social media and you think, hey, that's something other people should know about and something in there is deemed false by the government, you could go to jail.
00:23:34.960 Here's them talking about that.
00:23:36.360 Matthew Thompson now to talk through this.
00:23:39.420 So, Matthew, the last point there is crucial, isn't it?
00:23:42.380 Some people might be sharing simply to warn their friends, but it could be considered an offense because they're amplifying this.
00:23:48.800 Absolutely, and that's the key message is that however you think you're acting innocently on social media, whatever platform it is, you're just sharing something for whatever reason, that could potentially be a criminal offense.
00:24:01.240 So, it doesn't matter if you're acting innocently, it doesn't matter if you don't know the information is false, it doesn't matter if you're just sharing something that you find interesting, that could be a thought crime.
00:24:12.300 This is a real thing happening in the UK.
00:24:14.260 This is not some 1984.
00:24:16.440 This is not some brave new world.
00:24:18.920 This is not some dystopian future you're talking about.
00:24:22.220 This is what's supposed to be happening in free countries.
00:24:24.780 The kind of countries that lecture people like Vladimir Putin for being a dictator, an autocrat, a terrible, terrible tyrant.
00:24:34.160 This is what's happening in a country run by a government that wants to lecture China for being authoritarian because it might censor some social media posts, right?
00:24:45.300 Now, I'm not a fan of Putin or the government of China, but it's pretty thick irony to see these kind of leaders who are more than happy to go ahead and lecture all these other world leaders, but they themselves are imprisoning their own people for making social media posts that the government doesn't like.
00:25:06.160 And look, it's not an idle threat either, because the Crime Prosecution Service were keen to point out that they've made a number of charges in relation to stirring up of racial hatred online, one of which this morning was for distributing a recording that could, intending to stir up racial hatred.
00:25:23.640 And so this is not an idle threat, says the newscaster.
00:25:27.280 They're doing this.
00:25:29.200 There are multiple examples.
00:25:30.660 In fact, if you're distributing a recording, so it may not even be a public situation.
00:25:36.780 Maybe you're just distributing a recording amongst friends or something.
00:25:40.000 You might be violating the law.
00:25:42.400 You might be in breach of the law.
00:25:44.520 And so the government has the right in the in the name of avoiding stirring up racism.
00:25:49.180 The government has the right to reach into every one of your digital communications to make sure that they meet a certain standard that is arbitrarily defined by the government itself.
00:25:59.060 And if they don't, then you're you know, it's not even about shouting in the public squares and no arguments about fire in a crowded theater here, which, by the way, was a Supreme Court case that eventually the justice who even made that argument abandoned it.
00:26:12.820 But but even along those lines, you can't make that argument here.
00:26:16.820 Even if you're just sharing this, you're distributing this, you could be in a very serious situation.
00:26:23.200 They are actually already bringing charges in relation to this sort of thing.
00:26:26.680 So it's a very, very clear message based in the harsh reality, if you like, that if you do this kind of thing, you are potentially committing a criminal offense there.
00:26:34.920 He said it.
00:26:35.560 They've got teams of people scouring the Internet looking for this sort of thing.
00:26:39.360 And if you are in the business of sharing or retweeting whatever platform it might be, potentially criminal material, well, then you could find yourself prosecuted.
00:26:47.880 So you've been retweeting some of those some of some of that misinformation looks like you're going to jail, buddy.
00:26:53.900 And as wild as this is, this isn't even the limit of this, because, look, one of the reasons that the people in the UK are so furious is like this guy just said they've got teams of people scouring the Internet for this stuff.
00:27:07.060 Keir Starmer said the same thing about about the riots and the protests.
00:27:10.560 He says we've got a standing army of officers who are going to come after you if you involve yourself in any of this.
00:27:17.300 So just like the January 6th stuff, right, whether you think people should have been involved in that, whether you find that to be in violation of the law, whether you think that that got obviously got out of hand.
00:27:27.800 But, you know, but the the idea that those people are uniquely guilty in a way that the BLM rioters aren't is insane.
00:27:37.060 But the BLM rioters, some have gone to jail, the vast majority have not.
00:27:40.780 And those that have gone to jail have gone for very light sentences the majority of the time, as where the January 6 rioters are the ones that have been in jail sometimes for years.
00:27:52.680 And they have gotten in many cases, they had delayed trials.
00:27:55.900 They were treated very terribly.
00:27:57.320 When they finally got to their actual representative trial, they got very harsh sentences and many people who didn't even enter the Capitol have been facing prosecution.
00:28:10.300 And even if you didn't face the whole giant bit of jail time, the process of being charged and having to defend yourself and dealing with all this is itself a massive deterrent to make sure that you never see right wingers getting involved in any kind of protest.
00:28:26.420 And the left knows it can protest more or less with no problem.
00:28:30.000 I mean, the vice president who is now running for president, Kamala Harris, literally paid a fund, raised money to bail out criminals in the BLM riots.
00:28:40.540 She was bailing out the rioters.
00:28:41.940 So the person who is currently, for all intents and purposes, the acting president of the United States, in theory, at least, obviously, even she doesn't have any real power at this point.
00:28:53.160 She is as much a figurehead as Joe Biden.
00:28:55.120 But she is and she is running for president now.
00:28:59.260 And she was raising money to get these people out of jail.
00:29:02.820 Same thing happening in the UK here where you see large amounts of crime, often very heinous crime from certain immigrant communities.
00:29:12.080 Nothing is done.
00:29:13.240 There's no police for them.
00:29:14.740 There's no long sentences for them.
00:29:16.160 There's no army of officers ready to shut them down, though they easily could.
00:29:19.860 There's no vast network of social media monitors making sure that their communications are shut down.
00:29:27.100 None of that in the UK.
00:29:29.380 But it is there for native UK citizens who want to push back.
00:29:32.880 The one thing you're not allowed to believe is that the government should stop importing people from another country and that the people who are there don't have unlimited rights to get away with whatever they want.
00:29:46.040 Voicing that opinion is considered racist.
00:29:48.540 And therefore, you can shut anything down.
00:29:51.520 And this is the danger.
00:29:53.040 This is the incredible danger of the civil rights revolution in the United States going global.
00:29:58.380 Because I hate to say this, but it's true.
00:30:00.920 It's very clear that this obsession has ground zero somewhere inside the US.
00:30:08.340 Now, the US is also the most opposed to this.
00:30:10.680 Unfortunately, many places like the UK, like Australia, like Canada, folded us before the place where oftentimes it's considered to have originated.
00:30:21.140 But nevertheless, this has obviously been ported over.
00:30:24.460 The BLM narrative, the colonialization narrative, a large amount of this has been imported into the UK.
00:30:30.700 And they are going very hard in the paint to enforce this.
00:30:35.360 And so it is it is your mandate to let in as many people from outside your nation as possible.
00:30:41.960 They need to have their own justice system that treats them far more leniently for doing far more heinous crimes.
00:30:47.300 And if you have any disagreement with that, you're a racist.
00:30:50.340 And that makes you the far right.
00:30:52.060 And that means the government has carte blanche, all the power in the world they want to go ahead and investigate you, shut you down, imprison you.
00:31:01.360 This is the total state.
00:31:02.820 It is the control of not just the government.
00:31:06.580 Obviously, the government is a bad actor here.
00:31:09.260 But it's the media.
00:31:10.660 It's the social media companies all working in tandem to enforce this regime.
00:31:17.200 And it's not just in the United States and it's not just in the UK because all of these other nations who normally, again, would be preaching against these violations of human rights, you know, whenever they had the Arab Spring going, the fact that all of these revolutions were being done on social media was this amazing thing.
00:31:38.100 What freedom has grown up because and has swelled up and has sprung up because social media is there, right?
00:31:46.060 But the minute that it's the Western governments, it's these Western world democracies that are facing the pressure that social media can bring, the disruption of the narrative that social media can bring, that's the real problem.
00:31:57.080 And that's what you need to understand about this moment.
00:31:59.320 That's what's so important to grasp about what's happening right now.
00:32:02.640 The reason that the UK is backlashing this way, having this backlash, is the same reason you saw the United States government treat people horrendously during COVID.
00:32:13.680 And, of course, the UK government did that as well.
00:32:15.720 But it's this control of the narrative that is critical.
00:32:18.700 You see, the total state in its modern incarnation is one of managerial, fox-like, soft power.
00:32:26.440 It is based on its ability to manipulate systems and information.
00:32:31.980 When you have popular sovereignty, when you have mass democracy, this is the key.
00:32:38.880 I just had someone ask me in a group chat, what is the difference between, like, a regular democracy and mass democracy?
00:32:46.180 In the ancient conception of democracy, the reason democracies had any weight at all, the reason they were even considered a quasi-legitimate government, and even then, many, like Plato and Aristotle, were not big fans of democracy, did not think it was the best system of government.
00:33:02.140 But, even in those scenarios, the only reason it was considered to be a legitimate form of government was because the people of the city-state, really, that's really the maximum level of political organization that existed at the time.
00:33:19.900 So the people who lived in the city were the ones that voted.
00:33:24.080 And you couldn't just immigrate into the city and vote next year.
00:33:27.380 You had to have been basically born through several generations into a land-holding family, and, of course, you had to be male, right?
00:33:36.200 So it was not just, like, anyone could walk in and vote.
00:33:40.240 And it certainly wasn't that you could immigrate and, like, three or five years later, you could vote.
00:33:45.940 You had to be from the city, of the city.
00:33:48.520 It was your direct connection.
00:33:50.160 In fact, in Athenian democracy, it was literally the fact that you were connected to the soil and to the heritage that actually gave you the right to vote.
00:33:58.960 That's what made your vote matter at all.
00:34:03.560 So democracy was a principle that was based directly in your membership in the tribe, in the community, for an extended period of time.
00:34:12.060 You had heritage, you had tradition, you had it all tied directly in.
00:34:16.380 And even then, it was actually a relatively small percentage of those inside the community that were allowed to express their franchise.
00:34:25.780 The idea that every single person who walked in and had been there and said some kind of oath or believed in some kind of idea for 10 minutes would get to vote was deemed insane.
00:34:37.100 Mass democracy is the idea that you enfranchise everyone.
00:34:39.880 Everybody's involved, everybody, even oftentimes those from outside, right?
00:34:44.560 We're seeing that in the United States now.
00:34:46.220 Well, you really want immigrants to be able to have a voice.
00:34:48.660 Ultimately, you know, citizenship shouldn't really be a barrier to voting.
00:34:52.640 So when we're talking about mass democracy, that's what we're talking about.
00:34:55.700 And when you get to mass democracy, control is all about the narrative.
00:34:59.840 When I need to coordinate the votes of hundreds of millions of people, the way to do it is through constant propaganda.
00:35:07.980 And the reason that so many of these mass democracies were willing to turn the government over to the people, in theory, is that in practice, they knew they could control the beliefs of the people.
00:35:20.760 They had control of the narrative.
00:35:22.800 There are only so many television shows, only so many radio stations, only so many major newspapers with wide circulation.
00:35:29.760 And so a very small number of people, a very small number of nodes of power, could control a large amount of the information that got out to people.
00:35:38.920 Along with academia, the universities, and public education, they were able to manipulate the way in which people voted, the way in which they understood the events that were happening.
00:35:49.020 And so they could control the window in which allowable opinion was kept.
00:35:54.520 But what we've seen is that digital technology has actually disintermediated the news and the people.
00:36:02.220 You can actually get news directly.
00:36:03.940 You don't have to go to this intermediate source.
00:36:06.860 You don't have to go to CNN.
00:36:07.940 You don't have to go to MSNBC.
00:36:09.360 You don't have to go to the New York Times.
00:36:10.880 I get my news on Twitter, and I get it faster than all of those outlets.
00:36:14.740 I will regularly have people who watch the cable news channels or read these major papers, and I know things three, four hours ahead before they do.
00:36:25.340 And they're like, how do you do that?
00:36:26.120 It's like, I just follow the right people on Twitter.
00:36:28.180 That's all it takes.
00:36:29.000 And so that disruption, that digital disruption of the information monopoly is very, very dangerous to the total state, which is why they're cracking down so hard, because they know if people can consistently get their information from outside of that monopoly, things can get wild very quickly.
00:36:47.980 They saw what happened in the Arab Spring.
00:36:50.340 They know how they get color revolutions in Ukraine, and they want to make sure that technology can't come back to bite them.
00:36:56.460 They want to make sure that they don't get overthrown by the very same technology that they've used to cause revolutions in other places.
00:37:03.400 They are very aware of what this digital disruption can do to the total state's monopoly on what's happening.
00:37:12.500 And so the battle that has erupted now has actually been between Elon Musk and many members of the British government, because all these other social media platforms don't care.
00:37:24.660 They're on board.
00:37:25.460 They're part of the total state.
00:37:26.900 They're on board with the program.
00:37:28.640 They have signed on to be part of the state apparatus.
00:37:31.900 They understand their role.
00:37:33.580 Whatever they have about being some free speech platform, blah, blah, blah.
00:37:38.980 They really are on board with the plan.
00:37:42.340 Now, there are others, I should say, guys like Gab and Mines do have alternatives.
00:37:47.860 They're good, but they just don't have the reach.
00:37:49.480 They don't have the universal user base of Twitter, and while it's important for those alternatives to exist, ultimately the impact of a social media platform rests in the hands of its reach.
00:38:01.380 That is really what defines its impact.
00:38:03.880 And so the fact that Twitter has the format that it does that allows news to travel so quickly and in this very decentralized way means that it is a highly disruptive tool.
00:38:16.280 And that's why the UK government has been attacking social media so relentlessly, because they understand that.
00:38:23.040 They know that their control of the populace is really, really one of information.
00:38:28.820 Though we are seeing the use of hard power now, right?
00:38:31.240 We are seeing that shift.
00:38:32.480 It's not just the manipulation of information.
00:38:34.660 They are jailing people.
00:38:36.020 They are coming to your door.
00:38:37.420 They are knocking it in.
00:38:38.400 They are sending you to jail.
00:38:39.540 Like, that is a thing that is happening now.
00:38:41.260 So it's not just soft power.
00:38:42.520 They recognize that their soft power is failing.
00:38:44.980 That's why they're panicking, because they know they don't have this kind of control.
00:38:48.240 And that means they've actually gone after people like Elon Musk, who has stood up against them.
00:38:56.200 Elon Musk has been routinely criticizing the UK government from his platform.
00:39:02.500 He has been sharing posts, showing their violations, showing their human rights violations, showing their attacks on free speech, jailing dissidents, this kind of thing.
00:39:10.340 And so he's been a consistent thorn in their side, to the point where we've seen threats from multiple officials in the UK government directed at Elon Musk.
00:39:20.500 So the first thing that happened was we had the London Metro chief, the police chief there.
00:39:25.180 And someone asked him, well, what is your plan to deal with people like Elon Musk, who might be stirring up distress outside the UK?
00:39:36.180 So, yeah, we know you can get to UK citizens.
00:39:38.240 Yeah, we know you're fine with throwing UK citizens in jail.
00:39:41.920 That's no problem.
00:39:43.020 But what do you do if people from outside the UK start stirring up problems?
00:39:47.280 And he said, well, you know, the law applies to them, too.
00:39:50.880 And, you know, this could be a problem.
00:39:52.680 We'll apply the law equally.
00:39:54.460 And he didn't say explicitly we will extradite people.
00:39:57.620 But that was very obviously the implication is the idea that you could go out and extradite people who live in a different country like Elon Musk, who are U.S. citizens for the crime of saying something that the British government doesn't like.
00:40:11.460 And again, we heard nothing.
00:40:13.080 You know, if a if a if the Russian government said, well, we're just going to extradite anybody in the United States who disagrees with us, then the then the first they would need an extradition treaty.
00:40:25.720 But if if that was the case, the United States government would immediately be like, no, we're not going to honor that.
00:40:31.600 Obviously, that's hostile action.
00:40:33.780 The people of the United States have free speech, but they're not saying that they're not saying that in in for people in the UK.
00:40:40.380 Now, I don't think they're going to start extraditing people to the UK, but it's very clear that the United States wants to be aligned with what the UK is doing.
00:40:50.620 In fact, it has tried many of these things on its own.
00:40:53.360 Some of them have succeeded.
00:40:54.440 Some of them have failed.
00:40:55.440 But this is a wider program of the Western elite class.
00:40:59.920 They understand that their power is situated in in pretty much the same manner.
00:41:06.140 Right.
00:41:06.680 They've constructed their states in pretty much the same way, which is why you have this.
00:41:11.100 Everybody who's connected to this kind of global American empire, connected through these international organizations, many of which, you know, NATO is not quite as uniform.
00:41:20.180 But the EU, these things, they all have structured their states in a very similar way to be these these mass democracies supposed to be these mass Western liberal democracies based on popular sovereignty, but actually governed by the manipulation of information and soft power inside the total state.
00:41:39.800 So these total states are everywhere, but some of them are further along places like like Australia or the UK have allowed themselves to go much further down this road.
00:41:50.960 Same thing with Canada than than a place like the United States, even though many people could argue that the ideology at play is itself originating somewhere inside the United States.
00:42:01.360 So it not only has the the London police chief made this threat, but we also saw the former Scottish leader, whom's a Youssef.
00:42:11.200 I'm sure I said that wrong.
00:42:12.340 You know, it's a it's a classically Scottish name.
00:42:14.440 So you can forgive me for perhaps getting that pronunciation incorrectly.
00:42:19.000 But he has threatened to sue Elon Musk, because Elon Musk has said that he is basically anti white.
00:42:25.900 He said this guy is an anti white racist.
00:42:27.640 He hates white people.
00:42:28.860 And the funny thing is, when when when one news outlet, I think it was the Huffington Post, reported that he was interested in that the that Youssef was interested in bringing these charges against Musk, Musk actually responded saying, I'd love him to try.
00:42:43.920 Discovery will reveal how racist he has been to white people on a regular basis.
00:42:48.540 And that's really interesting.
00:42:50.180 Right.
00:42:50.700 That that is an interesting charge for Musk's to bring interesting language for him to engage in openly without any apology.
00:42:56.980 And he said, basically, I dare you.
00:43:00.700 I dare you because discovery and he has said this multiple times to people who have said they're going to sue him.
00:43:05.600 Bring it, bring it.
00:43:06.540 I will I will bury you.
00:43:08.080 The discovery will bury you because he knows what these people are saying behind closed doors.
00:43:13.200 He knows that they are coordinating.
00:43:15.140 He knows that they are attacking.
00:43:17.320 And he knows if he gets the opportunity to uncover those things, it will hurt them.
00:43:22.720 And so he comes back with this on a regular basis saying, go ahead, bring that lawsuit.
00:43:26.380 I'd love to see it.
00:43:27.540 I can't wait for the opportunity to show people who you really are.
00:43:30.860 Another person who has come out against Elon Musk has been I don't know.
00:43:37.320 I'm going to butcher another pronunciation here.
00:43:39.320 Theory Britain, apparently an EU commission official.
00:43:44.040 And they have basically said the EU commission has said, well, you are in violation of the Digital Services Act.
00:43:50.420 We've already attacked Twitter.
00:43:52.620 Sorry, guys, I'm just never calling it X.
00:43:54.140 We have already brought charges against Twitter because we think it's violating certain aspects of this.
00:44:01.020 And you guys probably already know this, but Donald Trump is supposed to be interviewed by Elon Musk on Twitter tonight.
00:44:10.220 And in anticipation of that, the EU has basically said Donald Trump is himself just this walking violation of our policies, right?
00:44:19.220 He he is a walking violation of our Internet protocols.
00:44:23.720 And so before you even put that on there, we would like to let you know that if you make this content available to anyone in the EU, you're probably breaking the law.
00:44:33.400 So just hearing Donald Trump speak at all is the is a violation of our laws.
00:44:41.280 And we would like to do to go ahead and warn you of that in advance, that you'll probably suffer severe penalties for this.
00:44:47.240 So I don't know if you remember this, but we got pretty angry, got got real worked up, had to hear endless speeches from liberals, especially Keith Oberman.
00:44:58.340 It's Russia.
00:44:59.040 It's Russia about a foreign country getting involved in our elections, right, getting involved in the United States and its elections.
00:45:05.740 And here we have an entire foreign body, right, this this supranational conglomeration of countries and their ruling body who is not democratically elected.
00:45:17.240 So it doesn't have any of this this kind of facade of popular sovereignty is directly threatening our own elections.
00:45:26.020 The ability of people to speak and talk about what is happening in the United States because they want to go ahead and try to shut it down by saying, if you involve yourself in this, basically we'll ban your product in our countries.
00:45:40.600 We'll go ahead or we'll censor it so severely, bring so many legal challenges that it'll bear you.
00:45:46.500 They're trying to intimidate the the owner of Twitter, Elon Musk, into not platforming Donald Trump because they'll be serious.
00:45:56.960 That's that's.
00:45:59.360 Interference, that's election interference in the most real way possible.
00:46:02.560 It's far more effective election interference than anything Russia did.
00:46:06.080 OK, so the idea that Russia had some kind of nefarious plan, but the EU is directly announcing that we will go ahead and censor you.
00:46:15.700 We will punish you for allowing Donald Trump to come on your platform.
00:46:19.800 That's a huge deal. Now, Trump has returned to the platform.
00:46:22.760 There have been several posts on Twitter by Trump here recently, though it seems like it's all his it's all his campaign team.
00:46:30.560 There doesn't seem like a lot of spontaneous stuff from Trump has himself.
00:46:35.020 It's been like campaign videos and such. We'll see if Trump starts using it the way he used to.
00:46:40.000 And he really has to because that is what his advantage was.
00:46:43.260 Look, so many people right now, especially on the right, it's so sad to see how about entirely into this Trump is doomed.
00:46:50.920 J.D. Vance is doomed scenario.
00:46:53.080 They are swallowing this media black pill that the mainstream media is just saying, oh, well, J.D. Vance is weird and Trump's poll numbers are bad.
00:47:02.240 And Kamala Harris is the most popular person in the world.
00:47:05.000 And somehow people who are Trump supporters are believing this.
00:47:09.080 And it's just so stupid.
00:47:10.700 Like these people told you Hillary Clinton had a 97 percent chance to win.
00:47:15.100 Are you serious?
00:47:16.300 These people told you that Joe Biden was this quick witted genius.
00:47:22.720 And now they're telling you that Kamala Harris is just the most charismatic human being to ever walk the earth.
00:47:28.780 And you just hear people on the right parroting it back.
00:47:31.840 You need Trump in the pocket.
00:47:33.560 You need him on Twitter.
00:47:34.740 You need him breaking that narrative stronghold.
00:47:36.840 You need him to be disrupting the media frame.
00:47:39.560 He needs to get on Twitter and he needs to do it now.
00:47:42.460 I know he's I know his campaign's posting stuff, but he needs to be posting personally.
00:47:47.280 And I know there's something going on with true social.
00:47:49.260 I've seen people speculate that maybe this is an announcement that truth social is going to be acquired by Elon Musk.
00:47:56.140 It's going to be folded in Twitter.
00:47:58.200 Hopefully that's the case.
00:47:59.560 I'm not sure what all is being involved here.
00:48:01.460 The important thing is this.
00:48:03.620 You need to be disrupting that narrative because, again, that is what they fear the most.
00:48:07.560 There's a reason that the total state is going after people on social media.
00:48:12.520 It fears the ability of social media to disrupt those narratives.
00:48:15.780 Very, very critical.
00:48:17.600 In fact, it's so critical that you now see the UK government trying to react to this by introducing new classes.
00:48:24.460 Right.
00:48:25.180 There's speculation that in addition to the social media censorship, Kira Starmer has already suggested they might just completely ban X.
00:48:35.080 Right.
00:48:35.300 They completely ban Twitter.
00:48:37.020 They might completely or censor it so heavily heavily that it's basically out of existence.
00:48:41.700 But they also have said that they're going to start teaching classes in their schools about how to identify misinformation.
00:48:48.260 Now, this is already going on in many places in the U.S. as well.
00:48:52.460 But this is the new way they're going to do this.
00:48:54.420 Right.
00:48:54.520 They're going to use another arm of the total state public education to try to shore themselves up against any breakthroughs from in their in their control through social media.
00:49:04.380 So the idea is if you can go ahead and code social media posts from the wrong sources as dangerous and immoral and especially low class, that's the most effective one.
00:49:17.260 You won't be cool if you pay attention to this stuff.
00:49:20.320 You're a loser if you do this.
00:49:23.000 That's what they're trying to do right now.
00:49:24.560 But that is a failing game, to be clear.
00:49:27.020 That is a desperate act.
00:49:28.260 That is not really an efficient form of pushing back.
00:49:31.220 Yes, for a little while, coding things that way can slow the bleeding.
00:49:35.940 But really, ultimately, this is like a tourniquet on a limb that is bleeding out.
00:49:40.980 Right.
00:49:41.260 You can sever it entirely.
00:49:43.900 But that's really the only way of solving the problem.
00:49:47.380 You can't just cut off all this information forever to a certain extent.
00:49:52.800 You eventually just have to come out and in the ability of people to communicate in this way.
00:49:57.260 And that's really what a lot of these places are looking at.
00:49:59.940 And look, this is not just the UK.
00:50:01.880 Right.
00:50:02.780 And this is not just the left.
00:50:04.520 A lot of conservatives said that they wanted to go ahead and censor something like TikTok in the United States.
00:50:11.340 Right.
00:50:11.580 They want to force TikTok to be sold so it's not part of China.
00:50:15.460 And this is something that all of these modern states are dealing with is digital sovereignty.
00:50:21.100 Right.
00:50:21.840 Sovereignty used to be a pretty obvious thing.
00:50:24.460 You control the area of your country.
00:50:27.260 Your government have the monopoly on violence inside your country.
00:50:31.600 And that's what gave you sovereignty over your nation.
00:50:35.120 However, at this point, people are realizing that actually narrative control is even more important than a hard power in our current system.
00:50:43.360 Now, that might not always be the case.
00:50:45.640 The total state might not always be ruled through soft power.
00:50:49.280 It's soft power might not forever be a tool that is wielded effectively.
00:50:55.000 But as it is now, the way that we have structured our societies now, information is key.
00:51:00.760 Narrative control is key.
00:51:02.540 That's what really matters.
00:51:03.600 And so digital sovereignty, the ability to control the information that comes in and out of your country through digital portals, ends up being just as important as securing your physical control, your physical sovereignty over the nation.
00:51:18.780 In fact, because our FOX style elites are so scared of often using a large amount of force, it's much more important to have that digital sovereignty.
00:51:31.120 And so the U.S. will ban something like TikTok.
00:51:33.460 England will say, you know, you better have these particular controls on Twitter or we're not allowing it here.
00:51:40.160 This is something that we're going to see more and more of.
00:51:43.100 And VPNs and these kind of things are cutouts, right?
00:51:45.320 They allow people to move around and violate this digital sovereignty even when it's established.
00:51:50.680 But we're probably going to see crackdowns across that kind of stuff, too.
00:51:54.080 And ultimately, this is this is a very dangerous overreaction because I have friends in the U.K. right now who say I can't even retweet you.
00:52:07.120 Like, I'm scared of retweeting your posts because it could I could be breaking the law.
00:52:11.600 I could go to jail because I retweeted something that you said on Twitter.
00:52:16.500 That's that's an amazing place to be, especially for countries that are pretending that they have some kind of advantage in freedom.
00:52:22.740 You know, we got rid of all those kings, man.
00:52:25.760 What if you get a bad king? Right.
00:52:27.220 While you're on your way to the gulag for for putting out a social media post.
00:52:31.360 That's kind of situation you're in.
00:52:32.920 And I want to wrap this up really quickly.
00:52:34.340 This has gone on much longer than I intended it to.
00:52:37.040 But I want to wrap this up really quickly because some people have asked me, why did you see this coming when academic agent and some of his friends didn't?
00:52:48.980 What is it about your application of elite theory that was different?
00:52:52.920 And the answer is pretty simple.
00:52:56.040 Ultimately.
00:52:58.180 Academic agent believes everything is reducible to power.
00:53:02.540 And that is a mistake.
00:53:04.200 He thinks everything is power and money, and that is all there is.
00:53:07.880 And everything is an excuse for power or money.
00:53:11.160 And because of that, he couldn't imagine a scenario where the government would create a situation that is very dangerous for themselves.
00:53:21.880 That is destroying their society because it's bringing in hostile actors.
00:53:27.400 That is making it impossible for a high trust society to function.
00:53:31.340 That is breaking down just their capacity to do routine tasks due to the competency decline that is happening under their governance.
00:53:41.040 They recognize that wokeness is in many ways a danger if it continues to accelerate to the ruling order, and yet they can't stop.
00:53:49.960 In fact, they double down.
00:53:51.100 This is part of the reason that NEMA, that academic agent, involved himself in this kind of zero seats movement is he thought that acceleration would ultimately stabilize the country.
00:54:04.340 Because it's not like the left is not going to keep pushing this that hard, right?
00:54:08.820 They're not going to go for even more massacre immigration.
00:54:11.020 They're not going to start jailing the native population in large swaths.
00:54:14.860 They're not going to gulag everybody who Facebook posts against them, right?
00:54:18.800 There's no way that's going to happen because even the left recognizes that they need to dial this stuff back.
00:54:23.560 Ultimately, the elites are after power.
00:54:25.760 They're not ideological.
00:54:27.120 Power isn't ideological.
00:54:28.060 Actually, it turns out it is.
00:54:30.460 It turns out that all purely material analysis fails because we are not purely material creatures.
00:54:39.220 Humans are narrative creatures.
00:54:41.480 We are spiritual creatures.
00:54:43.240 We recognize a metaphysical reality.
00:54:46.640 There's something beyond us that is greater than us.
00:54:49.800 And while power is an incredible motivator, and I'm someone who studies power.
00:54:55.100 I think elite theory is correct that power drives a large amount of decision making.
00:55:00.000 And by tracing power, we can unlock huge understudents and insights into these things.
00:55:05.840 However, if you treat it as the only variable and that this material analysis is all that matters, you will be wrong.
00:55:13.860 Because we are not ultimately creatures of pure material interest.
00:55:20.900 We need spiritual justifications.
00:55:25.300 We need narratives.
00:55:26.320 We need archetypes that we can plug ourselves into.
00:55:29.640 And the government of the UK is part of this larger global managerial network.
00:55:36.240 And the justification across this network is progressive secular humanism.
00:55:41.640 It is the civil rights revolution.
00:55:44.060 It is the sexual revolution.
00:55:46.200 These are the things that actually drive them.
00:55:48.620 They really believe these things.
00:55:51.160 They will destroy their country because of them.
00:55:53.960 They will sacrifice the people of their nation on the altar of these things.
00:55:59.540 They believe them.
00:56:00.760 It is not just power or money.
00:56:02.820 Though they get a lot of power and money out of it.
00:56:05.240 And sometimes they can curtail their actions.
00:56:07.280 And sometimes they can control their actions.
00:56:09.380 They can mold them around power or money.
00:56:11.780 I'm not saying those things don't matter.
00:56:13.280 I very much believe they matter.
00:56:14.480 I very much think that there are deep insights you can glean from following those sources.
00:56:18.580 But if you treat them as the be-all and the end-all, you will lose.
00:56:24.820 You will make a mistake.
00:56:26.120 You will fail in your analysis.
00:56:27.580 Because that is not all there is to the human experience.
00:56:30.760 Ultimately, every human needs a spiritual and narrative justification for their actions.
00:56:39.020 Even if they believe themselves to be materialistic atheists.
00:56:43.760 It's not real.
00:56:45.280 They still need those justifications.
00:56:47.460 And so if you factor out those justifications, if you factor out that aspect of human nature, if you don't factor in that most people are actually religious at their core, then even when they lie to you and tell you that they're atheists or whatever, then you will fail.
00:57:07.240 You won't understand the moment that you're looking at.
00:57:09.420 So I think that that's really important.
00:57:11.780 And that's why my understanding of the total state, I think, worked.
00:57:16.200 The argument I make in the total state is that ultimately progressive secular humanism is necessary to the managerial regime.
00:57:25.260 It's not some weird thing that they believed in for 10 minutes to get more power and they're going to discard.
00:57:30.740 It is actually a driving force behind the structure of these states.
00:57:36.720 And for them to continue to do what they want to do, they have to continue to advance this idea.
00:57:42.420 They can't back off the woke.
00:57:44.260 They can't put it away.
00:57:45.840 They have to keep it.
00:57:47.680 That's the thing, right?
00:57:49.000 That is the point.
00:57:50.880 And so I think the application of this model ends up being more accurate.
00:57:56.460 And so that's why I wanted to go through this today, because I wanted us to understand this practical application.
00:58:03.360 The total state is this soft narrative control used to manipulate populations, multiple different avenues.
00:58:11.880 It's not just the government.
00:58:13.340 It's the social media.
00:58:14.520 It's academia.
00:58:15.780 It is the news media.
00:58:17.460 It is all of these places together, forging one narrative, using the soft power of banks, using the soft power of technology, all of these things.
00:58:28.920 That is the total state, not just the deep state.
00:58:32.120 It's not just unelected bureaucrats of the government, though that's there.
00:58:35.360 It's not just the government's strong arm tactics itself.
00:58:39.320 It's all of these institutions working together, and not just inside the nation now, but a global network of these institutions, working simultaneously towards the same goal.
00:58:50.700 That is what we're up against, and we can see that directly.
00:58:53.840 We don't have to guess.
00:58:55.040 We can apply this model directly to what is happening, because the UK, very sadly, has become the total state.
00:59:01.980 It is probably the leading model to explain what is going on right now.
00:59:06.640 I think that's important for us to grasp.
00:59:08.080 All right, guys.
00:59:09.060 Let's go to the questions from the people over here.
00:59:16.420 Cooper Weirdo says,
00:59:17.960 So the authoritarian in charge of the UK thinks he can threaten America.
00:59:21.720 All I have to say is I'd like to see him try.
00:59:24.020 Yeah, I had the joke on Twitter.
00:59:26.680 I was saying, picture of the Boston D party.
00:59:29.760 Me and the boys getting the band back together.
00:59:33.600 I'm just saying, knock some tea in the harbor.
00:59:36.900 See how it goes, guys.
00:59:37.680 I'm not counseling anything, of course, YouTube, but, you know, there's a historical precedent.
00:59:44.060 That's all I'm saying.
00:59:45.940 Creeper Weirdo says, silly, Orin, don't you know that all of this is somehow Tommy Robinson's fault?
00:59:50.660 Your argument might make more sense, but we have what we have.
00:59:54.800 Yeah, you know, I don't follow a lot of Tommy Robinson.
01:00:00.860 I know some people feel like he is a plant because he puts the emphasis on kind of the battle between Islam.
01:00:08.140 He specifically focuses on Islam as opposed to the wider immigration issue.
01:00:13.820 I don't know how much of this is him being, you know, a British Fet.
01:00:19.240 I don't know.
01:00:19.880 A lot of people have made those accusations.
01:00:21.880 I'm just not aware enough of all of his actions to make those type of arguments.
01:00:28.000 I will say that, obviously, Islam is a point of contention for a reason, right?
01:00:33.920 Like, even guys like Richard Dawkins saying, hey, I'm going to be a cultural Christian because I oppose Islam.
01:00:39.580 That means something.
01:00:40.980 So I don't think – I think a lot of people who would – a lot of people who are themselves irreligious don't like the religious argument.
01:00:49.700 Though I don't think, ultimately, that Tommy Robinson is really, like, crusading for Christian nationalism or Britain or something.
01:00:55.600 But they just don't like that that's the focus.
01:00:58.600 And to be fair, that, you know, the Rwandan immigrant isn't a Muslim.
01:01:03.120 Rwanda is a Catholic country above most for the most part.
01:01:07.620 So it's not like it's just Islam that's the problem.
01:01:11.080 But I understand why Tommy Robinson would focus on that.
01:01:13.980 I understand why it's a shelling point for a lot of British people who oppose what's happening.
01:01:18.380 And if that shelling point is working, then maybe you should just go with the thing that's working largely and take as much as you can get.
01:01:25.180 And then apply your criticisms on top of that to the wider immigration problem.
01:01:29.760 But I don't know.
01:01:30.560 Maybe Tommy Robinson really is a bad actor.
01:01:32.800 I just don't have the information one way or the other.
01:01:36.820 Tiny Stupid Demon says, don't worry, Oren.
01:01:38.480 We have some ink stains on a piece of dusty parchment and glass box at the National Archives.
01:01:43.060 They'll magically keep this from happening here.
01:01:45.020 Yeah, that's really important, right?
01:01:46.460 Again, like I said, Britain obviously has the tradition of an unwritten constitution.
01:01:51.780 And I made the argument in my book, again, to be fair.
01:01:55.140 That the power is not the writing or lack of writing in the constitution.
01:01:59.520 In fact, Joseph de Maester, who I say in the book, specifically says that written constitutions are themselves a danger because they make people think that it's only what's written down that matters.
01:02:09.140 Ultimately, whether the constitution is written or unwritten, the thing that matters about the constitution is that the people believe in it.
01:02:17.240 The constitution is a reflection of the ways of the people, of the way of being of the people, the traditions, the folk ways, the history, the moral vision of the people.
01:02:28.160 Whether it's written or unwritten.
01:02:30.060 That's what matters.
01:02:31.460 Yeah, the first amendments in print in the United States, maybe that gives us an advantage.
01:02:36.940 Maybe it doesn't.
01:02:37.880 I'm certainly not crying about it at this moment.
01:02:39.800 But the point is, we're still losing those freedoms in the United States.
01:02:44.040 We're still seeing the censorship.
01:02:45.680 We're still seeing people go to jail for protesting.
01:02:48.300 We're still seeing people go to jail for memes.
01:02:50.960 Right?
01:02:51.360 So, this is happening in the United States.
01:02:53.280 Not to the same degree.
01:02:54.360 I'm certainly not comparing what's happening here in the U.S.
01:02:57.340 to what's happening in the U.K. right now.
01:02:58.560 I'm very glad the fact that I can make several statements on the show and on Twitter that other people can't.
01:03:04.560 That's a big deal.
01:03:05.200 And by the way, never know.
01:03:07.420 We're getting closer to the election.
01:03:09.300 YouTube is probably going to crack down on censorship.
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01:04:14.320 Creeper Weir says,
01:04:15.040 But Oren, Andrew Tate is bad.
01:04:17.000 That justifies this.
01:04:18.300 I'll be honest, man.
01:04:19.560 I have blocked Andrew Tate a long time ago because it seemed like everything he said was worthless.
01:04:24.440 The only thing I ever see people post is worthless stuff from that guy.
01:04:28.280 Maybe he's got some great takes hiding somewhere.
01:04:30.780 I don't know.
01:04:31.560 But I just don't know anything about what's happening with Andrew Tate.
01:04:34.260 I just don't think he's a particularly useful voice one way or another.
01:04:37.020 I know he helps some young guys kind of break out of kind of the current situation, I guess, to the extent that that is helpful, a good.
01:04:45.980 But from what I understand, he also, like, pimps out women and stuff.
01:04:49.540 I just don't know.
01:04:50.480 I would like I said, I don't really pay attention to what happens with him.
01:04:53.620 But let's see here.
01:04:56.380 Elijah Timons says,
01:04:58.000 What are the chances the UK government gets the parents of the three girls to be trotted out to say some variation of our daughters?
01:05:06.520 Our daughter was a blessing, but not as much as authentic Asian food.
01:05:10.060 Honestly, very high.
01:05:11.220 The chance of a public struggle session like that, where the parents have to come out and publicly deny their own daughters, renounce the violence against their own daughters and accept the violence against them, because ultimately the melting pot of the UK, the multiculturalism of the UK, is the most important thing.
01:05:31.160 Yeah, unfortunately, honestly, the chances of that are extremely high.
01:05:35.020 I'm very sad to say that, but that is probably not without a possibility in the future.
01:05:41.260 Glow in the Dark says,
01:05:42.520 You know why it's so hard for the populace to overthrow the managerial machine?
01:05:46.120 It's because it's not very heroic, sounding like fighting barbarian invasion or mercenaries compared to filling out paperwork.
01:05:54.960 That's exactly right, man.
01:05:56.280 That's a good insight.
01:05:58.060 That's a deep insight.
01:05:59.380 You know, there's a great quote from Julius Caesar, and I'll butcher it in the moment here, but to paraphrase it, he says something like,
01:06:06.640 You know, it's very easy to find a man who will die for a cause he believes in.
01:06:11.220 It's very difficult to find a man who will suffer every day for a cause he believes in.
01:06:16.060 And the problem with the battle against a lot of this managerial stuff is that ultimately the distributed network of soft power is very difficult to strike at, right?
01:06:28.200 Like, again, the people on January 6th, I don't think they were actually there to overthrow the government.
01:06:32.340 But assuming that they were, and they actually captured the Capitol building and started, I don't know, like passing legislation or something, would that have really taken over the United States?
01:06:44.700 No, of course not, right?
01:06:46.120 Curtis Yarvin made this point in one of his posts right after it happened.
01:06:50.040 That's not where sovereignty lies.
01:06:51.900 The government of the United States is not in the Capitol building.
01:06:54.820 It's not.
01:06:56.580 The elected legislators, it's not in the White House.
01:06:59.760 That's not the government of the United States.
01:07:01.400 If you went over the Pentagon, you might get slightly closer.
01:07:04.620 If you went to some of these bureaucracies across Washington, D.C., you might be closer still.
01:07:09.680 But you would also probably need to capture Harvard and Yale and CNN and MSNBC.
01:07:15.460 Like, that's where the real power is.
01:07:17.700 That's where the real power is.
01:07:19.240 And so you're right.
01:07:20.360 If there was some, you know, grand battle against a very particular force that you could fight off, it would be a lot easier, much more heroic.
01:07:29.160 But what we really have is a long battle that has many different fronts and may require very many incremental wins.
01:07:39.860 It requires a large amount of discipline and focus across a long period of time.
01:07:44.960 And let's be honest.
01:07:45.740 American people aren't up for this.
01:07:49.220 Not in their current incarnation.
01:07:51.220 They simply don't have the diligence and the virtue to push back.
01:07:54.940 And that's where our job lies.
01:07:57.280 You want to know what you can do?
01:07:58.920 A lot of people ask me all the time.
01:08:00.480 What can I do?
01:08:01.600 What's a real change I can make?
01:08:04.200 Build a network.
01:08:06.320 Build connections.
01:08:08.080 Change things at the local level.
01:08:09.980 Get your stuff together.
01:08:11.320 Get your family together.
01:08:12.340 Get your neighborhood together.
01:08:14.080 Get your church together.
01:08:15.620 So you can start organizing.
01:08:17.900 Open an old glory club chapter.
01:08:20.760 Find things that you can do in the community.
01:08:23.100 Build alternative institutions outside that people can rely on so they don't have to go to the state for these things.
01:08:30.320 So that you have a way to communicate with people.
01:08:32.980 And it isn't just across social media across a vast country.
01:08:36.560 But you know people in your community that you can get to in a pinch when you need to.
01:08:41.780 That sounds small ball.
01:08:43.380 It sounds boring.
01:08:45.000 It's not the grand victory.
01:08:46.480 It's not the big sweep.
01:08:48.680 But it's what's necessary.
01:08:50.300 It's what's required.
01:08:51.940 That's the kind of victories you can really win.
01:08:54.300 But the glow and dark makes a good point there that many people will ignore that.
01:08:58.720 Alright guys.
01:08:59.440 We're going to go ahead and wrap this up.
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