The Auron MacIntyre Show - The Woke Erasure of the Past ｜ Guest： The Prudentialist ｜ 3⧸15⧸23

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00:01:30.000 Hey everybody, how's it going?

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00:01:39.880 I've got a great stream this afternoon with a guest I think you're really going to enjoy.

00:01:44.200 We're going to be talking about the destruction of America's past.

00:01:48.220 We're going to be looking at why the left is so obsessed with revisionism, why it needs to go back and censor books, reconstruct classic child tales, why it needs to tear down statues, and why everything is year zero.

00:02:00.100 Joining me this afternoon is the Prudentialist.

00:02:02.100 Thanks for coming on, man.

00:02:04.100 Thanks again for having me on, Oren.

00:02:05.480 Greatly appreciate it.

00:02:07.420 Absolutely.

00:02:07.860 And we're going to be getting into all kinds of stuff about why this is happening, why progressives are so obsessed with this.

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00:03:57.260 So as many of you have probably heard, there's been a big ruckus about different authors having their work censored, specifically children's authors.

00:04:09.220 We've seen children's authors like Raul Dahl's work get censored.

00:04:14.120 Obviously, he is not with us anymore.

00:04:17.040 And so his works have been altered after his death.

00:04:20.560 But we even found out that the works of people like R.L.

00:04:23.740 Stein, someone I remember reading when I was a kid, the first person to introduce me to the idea of horror, kind of spooky stories as a kid, something that I really loved when I was young.

00:04:34.480 And, you know, his stuff got censored.

00:04:36.920 And the funny thing was, yeah, there was the story that came out and they said, we can't believe there's this rash of authors doing this.

00:04:43.260 Can you believe even, you know, living authors like R.L.

00:04:45.700 Stein are saying, oh, yes, let's go ahead and alter this.

00:04:48.420 And then R.L.

00:04:49.000 Stein comes out and says, I don't know what you guys are talking about.

00:04:51.400 I never authorized this.

00:04:52.700 And it turns out that his books were altered behind his back without any knowledge, you know, removing things like allusions to slavery.

00:05:02.600 You know, there's in Roald Dahl's books, they remove like people being fat that, you know, they're just just all the kinds of stuff that you would expect, all the politically correct censorship, all the woke censorship.

00:05:12.340 And as you can expect, just a lot of people are very outraged about this.

00:05:17.180 The funniest one to me was Nick Land.

00:05:18.920 Nick Land was particularly angry about Roald Dahl's books getting censored.

00:05:23.620 I'm not sure why that one triggered him particularly.

00:05:26.420 But let me ask you, Prudentialist, did you read any of these when you were wrong?

00:05:30.840 I read a lot of R.L.

00:05:31.980 Stein, but I only think I really watched the movies of things like, you know, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory or James and the Giant Peach.

00:05:38.420 Yeah, no, I read both a lot as a kid.

00:05:41.100 Goosebumps was quite enjoyable, as was the little television program that they had covering some of their stories.

00:05:46.460 And I've read a lot of Roald Dahl books.

00:05:49.760 And, you know, it's kind of funny to see that the witches are getting their revenge and editing his books long after he's gone.

00:05:55.540 And it's not surprising.

00:05:57.400 I mean, we've seen a lot of other things throughout 2020, throughout the French Revolution, where histories and records have been altered or changed to fit the history of this new ideology that takes place in our world.

00:06:12.000 Yeah, I think it's really interesting that, you know, the left, of course, warned about all of this stuff.

00:06:18.200 Oh, the censorship.

00:06:19.540 Oh, they're going to come back and they're going to remove everything.

00:06:22.200 And these totalitarians are going to completely control history and control the masses.

00:06:26.920 And, you know, we got books like 1984 that are taught in every high school warning us about what was going to come with this.

00:06:34.740 And now it's the left leading this charge.

00:06:38.340 They're fine with all of the, you know, all of the aspects of totalitarian, you know, kind of like techno capital that they warned about.

00:06:47.440 But now it's just on their side.

00:06:49.040 So it's fine.

00:06:49.760 Like, don't don't freak out.

00:06:50.880 Don't worry about it.

00:06:51.520 It's not a big deal.

00:06:53.520 Yeah, I think that this is primarily because the concerns of 1984, where Orwell is writing against the, you know, terrors and dangers of Stalinism.

00:07:03.460 Well, it kind of fits rather well with what the, you know, what we would consider liberal or progressives today won.

00:07:09.100 In fact, there was a great book I've been reading by a Polish gentleman who was in the resistance against the USSR called The Demon in Democracy, The Totalitarian Temptations in Free Societies.

00:07:20.380 And what he was writing was, is that, well, the reason why a lot of communist ideas or individuals never got punished after the Cold War is because a lot of their ideas and end goals for an end of history,

00:07:31.100 a progressive never-ending revolution, still fit very much in line with a lot of our liberal and progressive values in the West,

00:07:39.140 which gives us very easy to have certain ideas about censorship or having things change behind our back to fit a new political narrative,

00:07:48.580 a new national history, a new civic religion.

00:07:51.140 And because a lot of these two, you know, ideologies, liberalism and communism, share very distinct end respective goals,

00:08:00.300 whether that's to enlighten and elaborate to ensure that all of the masses are put equally on this egalitarian plane or that there is total liberation from hierarchy.

00:08:09.960 And so anything that we see with regards to allusions to fatness, intelligence, quality, character, the history of men that they would consider to be oppressive

00:08:18.960 happens time and time again throughout our, you know, politics right now.

00:08:24.600 It's not just these children's books.

00:08:26.120 This is just the latest wave of things.

00:08:28.280 Even in the UK, the Welsh government was talking about destroying and taking down statues of people like Wellington and countless others,

00:08:36.600 where they literally say statues of old white men may need to be destroyed according to their concerns about the British Empire.

00:08:44.060 So a lot of this stuff has also come here at home for the United States.

00:08:47.660 And it's a tale as old as time when it comes to revolutionary ideas.

00:08:52.520 I mean, during the French Revolution, you know, they destroyed the mainly a lot of peasants and farm workers had destroyed quite a bit of records

00:09:00.560 and written documents from government officials because they associated it with oppression, whether it would be tax documents or ledgers.

00:09:07.440 So changing children's books, just as we've seen with, say, Drag Queen Story Hour,

00:09:12.480 if they can indoctrinate you earlier and earlier to prevent any other worldview from existing,

00:09:18.120 then it makes it very easy to look at people and say, well, why would you deny, you know, this part of your history?

00:09:23.460 You know, whether that be some progressive narrative or saying that, you know, you can be healthy at every size.

00:09:28.960 This is the sort of madness that we're dealing with.

00:09:31.900 Yeah, it really is an erosion of kind of all understanding of what came before.

00:09:37.300 And Steve Fitch here has a great quote.

00:09:39.540 I'll just throw it up real quick. 0.92

00:09:40.420 The left porn books for kids, good, using the word fat, bad. 0.81

00:09:44.820 And that's really comical, but it's literally exactly what's happening, right? 0.96

00:09:48.000 We have to shove the sexual indoctrination of children into every school library in the United States. 1.00

00:09:55.260 You know, it's funny because at the same time that they're altering these books,

00:10:00.460 they're literally just showing, they're getting these staged photos and staged videos of school librarians purging the books that Ron DeSantis has banned from Florida libraries.

00:10:11.400 It's like, oh, so how many porn books did you have in your children's library, right?

00:10:16.520 But at the same time, you know, they're doing this and saying, how could you attack books?

00:10:21.600 How could you ban books?

00:10:22.880 They're literally going back and adjusting to these books without the knowledge of living authors.

00:10:27.640 It's not even dead authors.

00:10:28.720 It's not even, you know, the death of the author that enables the reconstruction of the work.

00:10:33.060 It's literally, you know, living authors without even letting them know, without obtaining, you know, their consent.

00:10:40.380 They're going back and completely removing anything that might rub people the wrong way.

00:10:44.820 Or here's the truth.

00:10:46.400 It doesn't rub people the wrong way.

00:10:48.040 It's things that they want to make sure to eliminate the concept of, right?

00:10:51.360 If you can get the concept out, if you can get that away from children and young, then you can go ahead and alter their reality going forward.

00:10:58.760 And so it's a really essential part of their project.

00:11:01.740 And I really think it's interesting that you have something like 1984 out there because, of course, 1984, it's in many ways written for the masses.

00:11:10.700 It's there to warn people about what's going to happen.

00:11:13.400 But the kind of omnipresent nature of that narrative, that warning, doesn't seem to have caused anyone hesitation when it comes to the actual implementation of the totalitarian ideology.

00:11:26.980 It really tells you that it doesn't matter, you know, telling, warning the masses about an inevitable outcome really has almost no impact on their actual behavior.

00:11:37.340 Yeah, and like you had said, if you can totally rewrite history and you can start them young, that's sort of the way to keep things socialized on this never-ending march of revolution and liberation.

00:11:48.620 I mean, a really good example of this, as we've talked about, are these sort of books that are pornographic in nature, as well as the Drag Queen Story Hour.

00:11:56.180 I mean, in a normal social studies environment, we would see things like cynophobia, right, like the fear of dogs.

00:12:02.740 And the way that you would get children to be less afraid of dogs is that you would expose them to dogs and other children engaged in sort of lively play or in a pleasant and calm environment that other people are encouraging you to participate in.

00:12:15.960 And eventually that breaks down the fear.

00:12:17.560 And the same way that you can do that with Drag Queen Story Hour, things that would naturally trigger the uncanny valley or a sense of disgust, if you get to them early, you can do so.

00:12:26.500 And the same thing with these sort of books, whether it's with children's books, the access to pornographic material is quote-unquote sex ed and public education.

00:12:34.580 All that this illustrates is that if you can change someone's opinion and get them conditioned and socialized, it makes it very easy for them to rat on their parents if they hold differing beliefs.

00:12:44.780 It's the, again, it goes back to, you know, that book, Demon and Democracy.

00:12:49.260 The problem is, is that, you know, very easily to transfer the idea of, you know, children in socialist republics of the Soviet Union reporting on their parents for, you know, counter-revolutionary thought.

00:13:00.580 The same thing can happen, I imagine, in the future.

00:13:02.860 And we've already seen it where some parents would be reported to the FBI by their, you know, progressive teenage kids because they went to the Capitol on January 6th.

00:13:11.460 Yeah, turning the child against the parent is kind of the final step of the total state, right?

00:13:18.260 Once you have completely destroyed that most fundamental bond and loyalty of literally the person who gave birth and cared for you, then there's nothing the government can't control.

00:13:28.900 And so that's why, you know, no matter what the totalitarian system, mastering the ability to break through and destroy that barrier between parent or that bond between parent and child really is one of the key functions of the state when they want to do that.

00:13:45.700 And I think you're also right to point out the important overlap between kind of the eternal revolution of the communist and the eternal revolution of the liberal.

00:13:55.820 You know, like you're saying, French Revolution, you know, what do they do?

00:13:58.960 They don't just, they don't just, you know, tear down Notre Dame.

00:14:02.240 They immediately install the goddess of reason in Notre Dame, right? 0.85

00:14:05.880 Because we need to, it's not enough to just desecrate.

00:14:09.120 You need to replace, you need to, you need to exalt something else in its place.

00:14:13.520 Because the left, even though they wouldn't admit this immediately out loud, definitely understands the need for a ruling ideology, for a ruling religion.

00:14:22.820 They understand that there needs to be a state religion and that you must replace, you know, that which was held sacred with something new. 0.58

00:14:32.820 And so you might, you know, D, you might take it away from the divine.

00:14:36.500 You might take it away from the realm of the supernatural.

00:14:39.880 But you can't just leave that void there.

00:14:41.900 You have to fill that.

00:14:42.920 And that's something that conservatives, ironically, don't seem to understand.

00:14:46.740 They think they can just strip wokeness, you know, remove CRT, whatever, out of a school system, out of society, and then just return to some kind of neutral state.

00:14:56.500 But the left understands that iconoclasm needs to be followed by the, you know, the creation of your own gods, your own statues, your own mythos, your own belief system that will fill that spiritual void, whether they're willing to turn it into, you know, or acknowledge it in spiritual terms or not.

00:15:14.140 Absolutely. And I think that the progressive side of our of our liberal state that we do live in, you know, there's a great Twitter account named Koveyfe Anon that has a really great phrase, the woke are more correct than the mainstream.

00:15:28.360 And so, like you had said, they know that you need to have a ruling ideology, a ruling religion, and you have to replace or subsume, or as you like to tweet, they'll take your religion and wear it as a skin suit in order to get their ideology across. 0.78

00:15:41.280 They're also more correct because they need to make sure that all essences of the past are totally destroyed, or better yet, are totally illustrated in a negative light so that people are going to be aware of the social consequences of being associated with it.

00:15:56.480 I mean, the Roman Empire had something known as damnatio memore, where they would totally erase your imagery, they would try and destroy you from any official records of your existence, if you were ever considered a traitor to the emperor, the nation, or the Roman ideal, to where you could have family portraits, and someone on that portrait's face is literally scrubbed out of existence.

00:16:15.920 I mean, the Soviets had done the same thing with their images being edited by Stalin, and now we're seeing the same thing here with this sort of stealth edits of television shows, certain episodes being removed, whether it be South Park or Seinfeld, and now with children's literature as well.

00:16:32.220 So yes, this form of iconoclasm has a long history throughout humanity when there's time for revolution or to maintain control of your own population if people get too rowdy.

00:16:43.380 Yeah, and I just wanted to play a little bit of footage. I mean, I'm sure we're all very familiar with this, but you know, a few, it's not even a few years ago at this point. When did the Statues Must Fall movement begin at this point? Four years ago, perhaps?

00:16:59.400 Yeah, probably 2020 is really when it kicked off, but it had started even earlier. I mean, our good friend Alexander Adams, who's an artist and also an author, he wrote a book literally called Iconoclasm, Identity Politics and the Erasure of History back in 2018, I think.

00:17:14.820 And, you know, this, it's been going on for quite some time that, you know, it'll start with, you know, Confederate statues, as Trump warned while he was in office, and now we're talking about trying to get rid of, you know, Jefferson, I think New York City just a couple of years back had taken down the statue of President Theodore Roosevelt from the Natural History Museum in New York City.

00:17:35.100 So, once you start, you know, you have to go the full way here. And right now, what we seem to be showing off is that, and this constantly egalitarian, anti-racist, liberal, progressive society that we want to use America to be the ultimate example of, that means sort of demonstrating the absolute destruction and erasure of its, you know, white, settler, frontiersman past. 0.54

00:17:58.500 And it's, it's interesting, because, of course, we see this all the time, right? We see this on every front when it comes to, unfortunately, many mainstream conservatives, but they started with the Confederate statues, and there were suddenly many, you know, conservative who came out and said, you know what, I'm fine with that. That's fine. You know, these people are traitors. These people, they lost, you know, that's good. You know, get rid of them, you know, put them in a museum somewhere.

00:18:26.780 They don't belong, they don't belong, you know, being, you know, they're never going to attack the bigger stuff. It's never going to be a problem. You know, they'll get rid of the Confederates, and they deserve it. And then slowly but surely, of course, the, you know, the statues of Teddy Roosevelt and Abraham Lincoln, you know, the arguments can be made there. 0.65

00:18:46.240 But, you know, the statues of, you know, George Washington and Thomas Jefferson, all of a sudden, they start disappearing. And it turns out all those conservative guys, in theory, the guys who are out there saying, it's fine if we take down the Confederates, and it'll stop there.

00:19:03.840 All of them just disappeared when these, their heroes were started getting torn down. And so this is how the left always does it. They go to some kind of quarter case, they think that's going to be possibly defensible. They pull it down there, their allies and the squishy conservative portion of the media start, you know, running cover for them, explaining how possibly there could be a reason why this needs to happen.

00:19:29.840 And by the time, you know, that the movement has moved beyond their own justifying logic, it's too late. And they don't, they don't come the defense of any of this stuff at the end. They don't, they certainly don't switch and say, Oh, wait, I was wrong. I have to go back and stop it. Because the goal has already been achieved, achieved, people have already normalized this action. The police know to stand down, they know to just, you know, stand back and watch this, let it happen. And that's also a very key part of this that people need to remember.

00:19:58.020 The state doesn't need to do this, right? We have private publishers, private companies, erasing the past in these books, altering them for political correctness. We have quasi legal mobs, these mobs that should be illegal, they should be doing something illegal, but basically have the blessing of the state because they're not being stopped.

00:20:22.160 And anytime the state is actively not stopping a crime guys like this, you need to understand the state is endorsing it. When the state doesn't stop a BLM rise it, a BLM protest, a BLM riot, they are endorsing that riot. When they don't stop the destruction of these statues, they're endorsing it.

00:20:39.940 When they don't stop the terrorizing of people, the massive theft. When they don't stop these things, they are actively endorsing it. And so we can see that the state doesn't have to take action.

00:20:51.940 They don't have to violate the Constitution. They don't have to, you know, actually do anything that formally crosses the line.

00:20:58.840 They can simply give a knowing nod to those that will do their work for them.

00:21:03.160 Yeah, I think that's the biggest aspect and takeaway of Sam Francis's description of anarcho tyranny is that your biggest, you know, state sponsor of domestic terrorism really is the government when it opts to just simply stand back and stand by and let these things happen to accomplish a very similar ideological goal.

00:21:22.260 Whether that be what we saw in 2020, when there was alleged lockdowns across the country, but somehow you were immune to a virus if you were protesting, you know, racism and police brutality, and these things tend to happen to secure an achieved goal.

00:21:37.480 And when you have similar ideologies in both the state and the private sector, that's when the public-private distinction gets incredibly murky and almost pointless because it really doesn't matter when, you know, say, Jen Psaki was when she was the, you know.

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00:22:07.480 Press secretary.

00:22:10.560 It wouldn't matter what she had to say, what the official position of the White House was, or what, you know, her position may be from the government, because it was also going to be shared by virtually everyone else inside Silicon Valley, the mainstream press, Democratic activists, and those that work at ActBlue in order to accomplish a very specific goal.

00:22:27.300 And they know that they can simply stand back and stand by when they know that there have been powerful progressive financiers that have funded, you know, district attorney campaigns to ensure that these people aren't going to be lenient.

00:22:38.720 You have an opportunity to take advantage of the fact that we're not going to be as tough on crime as we used to be.

00:22:43.500 And so, yeah, I mean, this is where the state can simply allow these things to take place, and not anyone's going to do about it.

00:22:50.460 Because when we see any instance of, you know, the right doing something, that's when the full brunt of the state will come down against them.

00:22:57.640 I mean, we saw that most clearly, I think, recently, when Tucker Carlson was covering the Douglas Mackey trial, when similar people were making very progressive memes about the 2016 election, and he was doing the same thing, but to support Trump.

00:23:11.780 You know, the regime came down on him, you know, years after that election, only when Biden got into office.

00:23:18.080 Yeah, people need to understand that, of course, you know, politics is about rewarding your friends and punishing your enemies.

00:23:24.600 And that's what is going on here.

00:23:26.960 They understand the goal, they understand what they want to do, they don't have any, going, this is the misconception by so many on the right.

00:23:35.420 They think that if you can just go back and rewrite the Constitution, or have some kind of, you know, some kind of convention of the states, go back and add a few extra, you know, amendments, and fix a clause loophole or two,

00:23:47.780 then all of a sudden, the government will be magically forced to follow the new language in the Constitution.

00:23:54.260 But the government doesn't follow the language in the Constitution now.

00:23:58.040 They don't follow the language in their own laws now.

00:24:01.060 The obvious truth is that there is no equal protection under the law in the United States.

00:24:06.140 There is a degree of this, of course, we should acknowledge.

00:24:09.140 Like, they're not just going out and rounding up, you know, hosts on the blaze or something like that, right?

00:24:14.000 So there is some level of neutrality they need to pretend, they need to kind of respect at some level.

00:24:22.100 But out of these edges, where they have the option of identifying things as a crime, they will, because it reliably lets them punish their enemies,

00:24:34.180 whether they're spying on Catholics at the Latin Mass, whether they're arresting pro-life protesters,

00:24:40.680 whether they are ignoring the murder of an unarmed woman at the nation's capital.

00:24:49.660 You know, these are decisions that they're making repeatedly to show who actually is favored, who's in charge,

00:24:56.760 who's going to win these competitions, and who's going to lose them.

00:25:00.000 And if you continue to think that you're just going to, you know, write a few laws,

00:25:03.700 you're going to rearrange things, then you're going to be able to kind of protect this stuff.

00:25:08.600 You don't understand what's going on.

00:25:10.320 And so I think it's just incredibly important for conservatives everywhere to grasp that while the Constitution,

00:25:16.380 for all of its many, you know, positives, may at some point have protected you and your liberties,

00:25:23.380 it does not do so now.

00:25:24.800 And it will not do so now.

00:25:26.000 Because the Constitution itself was never the guarantee, the guarantor of those liberties.

00:25:30.420 What was guaranteeing your liberties was the willingness of the people and the willingness of government officials

00:25:35.860 to back up the principles inside that Constitution.

00:25:39.380 And if you don't have a government that is actively carrying that out,

00:25:42.340 is actively animated by the principles of the document,

00:25:45.520 then the document itself has no binding power.

00:25:48.600 Absolutely.

00:25:49.540 And when you don't have a cultural formation where the nation is socialized on a set of predicated beliefs,

00:25:56.580 whether, you know, it didn't matter in, say, 1890 or 1925,

00:26:01.800 on too much on major political differences, there was still a vast degree of alignment

00:26:06.200 on what needed to be done for the good of the country.

00:26:08.460 That doesn't exist anymore.

00:26:10.300 And so appeals to the Constitution, or when the Speaker of the House, Kevin McCarthy,

00:26:13.880 you know, makes his promises and he reads the entire Constitution on the House floor,

00:26:18.160 it falls on deaf ears.

00:26:20.440 And the same way that, say, Sir Robert Filmer appealing to the divine right of kings

00:26:24.720 would not matter at all to someone like John Stuart Mill.

00:26:27.780 Time and time again, when you don't have a counter-prevailing ideology

00:26:33.020 or a civic religion that is better than, say, what you're currently fighting against,

00:26:37.460 you're going to lose.

00:26:38.640 And what seems to happen with a lot of mainstream conservatives,

00:26:41.500 especially with the Republican Party and its various apparatchiks,

00:26:44.760 is that they want to go back to this idea of value-free or neutral institutions,

00:26:50.580 which throughout the history of government, throughout the history of the world,

00:26:53.980 that has never existed.

00:26:55.940 Value-free institutions do not exist.

00:26:58.220 It is always going to have a select bias based upon the culture and where you've been educated.

00:27:02.520 And the right wants to go back to a time where somehow we could all watch my friend Martin

00:27:07.140 in the 1990s and seemingly get along.

00:27:09.660 I mean, that sort of cultural optimism of that decade is not coming back.

00:27:13.380 And I understand the powerful drive of nostalgia,

00:27:15.900 but what matters when we see these things is that they want to ensure

00:27:20.020 that anything prior to, say, 1990 or even 2014 or 2015 or something before 1939,

00:27:28.520 all that aspect of culture, all that aspect of an identity is erased.

00:27:33.280 And so not only are we seeing some sort of, you know,

00:27:35.800 damnatio memore when it comes to the past figures like George Washington or Thomas Jefferson,

00:27:40.740 but we're also seeing it now with all aspects of childhood culture.

00:27:45.340 We see this, of course, with various remakes instituting progressive ideas.

00:27:50.220 You know, they had a big hype for the bringing back of like the Proud family,

00:27:54.380 sort of a cartoon with an African-American family in the late 90s, early 2000s,

00:27:59.040 runs for one season.

00:28:00.540 And it's the most woke thing possible because we have to perpetually infantilize,

00:28:04.960 reprogram, and utilize nostalgia to ensure that there's a progressive message

00:28:08.760 to illustrate, hey, we've gotten older, we're more progressive, we're more enlightened,

00:28:13.080 we must be more egalitarian, we must be more anti-racist.

00:28:16.100 And in doing so, the constant revolution comes for all.

00:28:19.700 And if it hasn't come for you yet, it most likely will.

00:28:23.480 Yeah, I mean, Paul Godfrey's assertion that kind of the core,

00:28:27.520 almost the religion of America at this point is denazification feels very real, right?

00:28:33.220 It rings very true. 0.99

00:28:36.000 And you have to purge everything.

00:28:38.920 You have to purge all of America's history as if it was the mid-century Germans. 0.97

00:28:42.820 Like you have to get, you have to scrape every symbol.

00:28:45.600 You have to destroy every idea that links things together,

00:28:49.220 any kind of cultural, traditional association.

00:28:52.700 You have to destroy every aspect of prior American culture. 0.96

00:28:56.000 Because if you don't, like you said, then these evils of racism or xenophobia or whatever

00:29:02.440 could leak back into society.

00:29:04.400 You have to destroy all possible links to the contagion.

00:29:07.440 And so there's this scorched earth policy.

00:29:09.520 There's this carefully curated history.

00:29:11.980 And it's important for people to remember this has been going on for a very long time.

00:29:16.400 You know, this is not new.

00:29:18.660 Obviously, the changing of authors works.

00:29:21.320 I mean, Agatha Christie had a book called, you know, 12 Little Indians.

00:29:25.400 And before that, it was called 12 Little Gamer Words.

00:29:28.080 And now it has an entirely different title, of course, because that book is unmarketable.

00:29:33.820 But Agatha Christie is marketable.

00:29:36.120 And so they need to rename it so they can, you know, they can sell it to a generation that 0.84

00:29:40.520 would otherwise be offended by the language.

00:29:42.060 Nothing, everything, you know, one of the beauties of the market is it can justify the shaving

00:29:48.960 off of all this stuff, right?

00:29:50.640 Because if you can go back and sell it to people, then it's fine to repackage it and get

00:29:55.020 rid of the things that might offend the current audiences.

00:29:57.880 And so it becomes less of a political or cultural statement.

00:30:01.300 It becomes more of a financial bottom line, right?

00:30:03.960 I want to be able to acquire this comic book.

00:30:06.240 I want to be able to acquire this novel.

00:30:08.260 I want to be able to go ahead and remake the Shakespeare play.

00:30:11.160 But man, there's some words in there we don't use anymore.

00:30:13.940 And so each iteration of this thing just erases a lot of the cultural context, a lot of the

00:30:21.100 past, a lot of the things that you need to understand in order to really understand the

00:30:25.020 work and therefore transforms it into something entirely different.

00:30:28.000 Absolutely.

00:30:29.860 And I think that this is one of the bigger things that we have to see out of there.

00:30:34.000 I mean, Paul Gottfried, I think, in his description of like America's real founding

00:30:38.560 religion, it's year zero is the end of World War Two.

00:30:41.380 And so our global crusade throughout the world is to provide, you know, very similar to what

00:30:46.720 George F.

00:30:47.220 Kennan critiques about American diplomacy.

00:30:48.960 We have to sell a warm fuzzy to ourselves as we go abroad.

00:30:52.600 So while, you know, Secretary of State Blinken wants to put, quote unquote, progress flags

00:30:57.120 on, you know, part of every U.S.

00:30:58.760 embassy, you know, sort of replacing the original, you know, stars and stripes with a rainbow

00:31:04.180 colored flag.

00:31:05.200 And in the same time, you know, we're haunted.

00:31:07.940 There's a I know that postmodernism is not the most favored thing around in these circles.

00:31:12.280 But, you know, Jacques Derrida had written a book called The Specter of Marx, which had

00:31:17.160 been later fleshed out by others like Mark Fisher and co.

00:31:19.700 And Derrida's argument was, is that, you know, a lot of capitalist societies, they're

00:31:24.700 haunted by Marxism, that any sort of aspect of, you know, market regulation will be labeled

00:31:30.060 as Marxist.

00:31:30.900 And we have to suddenly push back against that.

00:31:33.080 I think that we're seeing that same thing happen now.

00:31:35.500 And I think Gottfried nails it very, very well.

00:31:38.020 The reason why we have this perpetual revolution that we can't look back on the past as fondly in

00:31:42.320 the progressive worldview is, is that a lot of those things would be associated with,

00:31:46.520 say, nationhood, a homogenous culture, things that instantly trigger a warning in the back

00:31:52.260 of their head as if there's a certain mustache gentleman still haunting their dreams every

00:31:56.440 night when they go to bed.

00:31:57.960 And so time and time again, we have to edit the culture.

00:32:00.560 We have to recast certain things.

00:32:02.660 We have to ensure a total erasure of what used to be the American culture, the American 1.00

00:32:07.460 brand in order to adjust to the new warm fuzzy that we have to sell ourselves.

00:32:11.800 And I'm glad that you mentioned like the sort of market incentive to it, because that's

00:32:15.080 again, where the public private distinction gets so murky.

00:32:17.980 We have to respond to incentives by the culture, even though, you know, we see this even more

00:32:22.560 blatantly, right?

00:32:23.160 In video games, it's been almost 10 years since GamerGate's taken place.

00:32:26.600 And you still have people talking about the need for, you know, progressive games and

00:32:31.200 representation.

00:32:31.680 But the people that are wanting these things are the people that wouldn't play those video

00:32:35.020 games in the first place.

00:32:36.160 It's the reason why even Dungeons and Dragons now has a near indestructible wheelchair that 1.00

00:32:40.840 you can use to lug around and have wheelchair accessible dungeons, for goodness sakes. 1.00

00:32:45.200 But the people that would buy that stuff aren't the people that would have played that game

00:32:48.640 in the first place.

00:32:49.440 But you have to make sure that all aspects of your ideology are taken over completely.

00:32:55.540 And like you said, that's why you have that perfectly apt term, the total state.

00:32:59.220 It is totalizing.

00:33:00.380 It will eat everything.

00:33:01.540 And it will erase anything that you find to have a semblance of tradition, culture, or

00:33:06.500 even things that look like you.

00:33:08.380 Yeah, I think that that concept of hauntology is so important, too.

00:33:11.960 I'm really glad that you brought that up, because it is so much of what animates us right now.

00:33:16.840 You know, someone tweeted out a couple days ago, you know, well, if we weren't, if World

00:33:22.960 War II wasn't fought for democracy and the rule of law and the rights of refugees, then what

00:33:30.980 was it fought over?

00:33:33.080 And that's just an amazing thing.

00:33:35.140 Like that tweet went wide.

00:33:36.240 It was very popular, you know, and it's just like, well, do you think a lot of GIs were

00:33:40.940 just running in there for the rights of trans kids?

00:33:43.640 Like, you know, that meme, what were they dying for?

00:33:45.720 And it's the guys landing in D-Day, and you just fill the bubble with the most insane

00:33:50.000 wokeness, right?

00:33:50.800 But yeah, this idea that everyone in 1945 on the American side or on the Soviet side,

00:33:59.680 which for some reason always seems to get lost, you know, was on board with, you know,

00:34:05.860 the current progressive zeitgeist is just absolutely insane.

00:34:08.800 Every one of these people who would have won this war during year zero would have been labeled

00:34:14.360 horrifically racist, sexist, homophobic, whatever, by those currently in charge.

00:34:19.700 In fact, many of the people who were fighting in that war have been canceled, you know, because

00:34:27.160 of opinions that they would have held at that time.

00:34:29.640 And so now, you know, we see, even though they're adjusting, you know, kind of the timeline

00:34:34.380 for America and its founding, the creation of the world order of post-1945 America, they

00:34:42.100 still have to reject even those values.

00:34:45.060 Even those values are insufficiently progressive.

00:34:48.580 And because they could always lead back somehow, even the people who defeated the mid-century

00:34:53.100 Germans could lead us back to the mid-century Germans if we actually followed any of their 0.97

00:34:57.780 values or were tied to any of their culture.

00:35:01.260 Yeah.

00:35:01.880 And I think that you see, again, like we said, hauntology is very apt here.

00:35:05.840 They are haunted by what came before 1945.

00:35:08.940 They're haunted by what came before, you know, 1865, a much more, you know, decentralized form

00:35:16.220 of government where the states had more importance, where our senators were representatives of their

00:35:20.520 respective states, not the popular will.

00:35:22.980 And like you said, there's always constant debate over what's the new year zero.

00:35:26.600 I think that's why you see so much debate over, well, is it, you know, post-2015?

00:35:31.700 Is it post, you know, are the, you know, we have our new year zero like, oh, America's not

00:35:36.060 really founded in 1776, it's founded in 1619.

00:35:39.840 You see this constant push of revolution, this bit of dialectical argumentation over and

00:35:44.960 over and over again about where is your zero and what is the original sin of this country?

00:35:49.660 Like we had said earlier at the beginning of this conversation, the progressive aspect of

00:35:53.640 the left knows that you need to have a totalizing civic religion to socialize everybody under, and

00:35:59.180 that you have to make sure that there are no incentives to be an apostate to it.

00:36:03.000 And so if that means canceling you, if that means throwing you in jail or making sure that

00:36:07.720 you get fired and that you're essentially punished for breaking the rules until you come

00:36:12.800 groveling back for an apology, it'll never be enough for them.

00:36:16.600 And again, this is probably why you shouldn't apologize for what you believe in.

00:36:19.700 And secondly, when it comes to things, whether it be children's books, the recasting of traditional,

00:36:25.280 say, European folk tales to meet some progressive monstrosity that we currently see come out

00:36:30.700 of Disney quite often these days, all of this is illustrative that, you know, this stuff's

00:36:34.860 marketed not just to you, but more importantly, it's your children.

00:36:37.920 They don't care that the Oscars are at the lowest bit ever in terms of viewership.

00:36:43.020 They don't care that, you know, the Super Bowl had the lowest ratings or whatever.

00:36:46.700 What matters to them is that these things are accessible to one, they're staunchest believers,

00:36:50.660 but two, the youth that are interested in it or have already bought into the religion.

00:36:55.020 And when you can do that, you not only strengthen the emotional zeal and zealotry of your foot

00:36:59.460 soldiers, but you also have the next generation bought into these beliefs.

00:37:03.920 And even when things have sort of a conservative tough guy veneer, it's even better for them

00:37:10.020 to sort of twist that progressive knife into your back to let them know that actually, no,

00:37:14.600 this is meant for our values, not yours.

00:37:16.960 That be the Black Rifle Coffee Company or more recently with the Yellowstone TV show, all

00:37:22.320 these things are meant to illustrate that it doesn't matter what kind of coat of, you know,

00:37:26.120 tough guy, true grit painting that we put on it.

00:37:29.000 At the end of the day, it's our values and nobody else's.

00:37:32.180 Yeah. And that's so difficult because I think conservatives are rightly just desperate to

00:37:36.140 see their values reflected in anything.

00:37:38.700 Right. And so they see some level of cultural coding, some level, some indication this might

00:37:44.400 be on my side. This might connect to my history.

00:37:46.640 This might venerate something that I think is worthy of it.

00:37:51.320 And they buy in. Right.

00:37:52.980 And then they don't realize that, you know, a couple episodes in, you know, the colors of

00:37:59.100 Benetton show up and then the trans disabled student.

00:38:02.100 And then we get the lecture on the importance of diversity against the Nazis.

00:38:06.460 And all of a sudden, this thing that was supposed to be coded as, you know, as conservative or,

00:38:12.880 you know, having the values of kind of the American heartland is completely subverted.

00:38:19.720 Right. And it's taken away from them.

00:38:21.820 And it's so difficult because at this point, I think it's hard.

00:38:25.920 I forget who I was talking about this with, but they made the really excellent point of it's

00:38:30.120 hard for conservatives to even even understand how a story resolves, how like a fictional story

00:38:36.820 would resolve in their favor. Right.

00:38:38.780 They don't even know the only story arcs they see anymore are, you know, a woman of color

00:38:45.800 overtakes something like, you know, they don't they don't even understand what it would mean

00:38:50.880 for their for their side to win and for someone who represents their tradition and represents

00:38:57.160 their heritage, represents their worldview, represents their culture to succeed in the

00:39:01.900 modern world. It's hard for them to envision that.

00:39:04.240 Of course, that's the point. Right. If you can rob people of that vision, if you can rob

00:39:07.640 people of that connection, if you can rob people of the language and the context necessary

00:39:14.000 to imagine a future in which they flourish, then their dream dies, their identity dies,

00:39:20.660 their culture dies, and it can be replaced with something else. 0.67

00:39:23.840 Well, this is why it's so important when we see these children's stories being edited or

00:39:28.840 recastings take place. It's to ensure that, you know, the progressive side, which throughout

00:39:34.340 history has always been associated with destruction, mass murder, and the capitalization of upending

00:39:41.940 all things that we respect, whether that be the divine, the natural importance of hierarchy,

00:39:47.400 landed gentry, things that had been the great cultural drivers of our society, has to change. 1.00

00:39:53.200 We see this all the time. Like you had said earlier, when it came to the discussion of the

00:39:56.380 Confederate flags, what does the only like, what does the modern left only seem to care about when

00:40:00.860 it comes to the issue of the Civil War? Well, they only really care about General Sherman's

00:40:05.240 march to the sea and making sure that Atlanta was burned down and the countless hundreds of

00:40:09.480 thousands of people were displaced, starved, or were murdered. They have to identify with evil.

00:40:16.280 And so they have to recast these stories. They have to go out of their way to ensure

00:40:20.200 that actually they can sell it to everybody that we're the good guys. We're not the evil ones.

00:40:25.220 It's again, we're haunted by the specter of the mid-century German. We're haunted by the specter 0.99

00:40:30.180 of the Klan hood. All these things that we have to illustrate that we are the good guy.

00:40:35.300 And so, you know, if they can paint even ordinary people like you and I as these disgusting fascists, 0.81

00:40:40.540 racists, whatever, anything that they can do to justify the extremist form of violence, 0.95

00:40:45.360 whether it be the state or themselves to go with it. Because at the end of the day,

00:40:50.020 the left will look at various characters or comics or whatever, and they'll always self-insert

00:40:54.120 themselves. It's so blatantly obvious. They can't write a good story to save their lives without it

00:40:59.060 becoming a confessional, that they're identifying with evil. And they have to change that in a way so

00:41:05.020 that the next generation realizes, no, no, no, we're not the bad guys. How could we be the bad guys?

00:41:11.500 Our neighbors were aware, you know, they had an American flag. Of course we had to burn their

00:41:15.800 house down. Those types of things happen all the time. Or someone stands up about their neighbors

00:41:20.880 and making sure that they're not abusing their children. Well, you know, now there's going to

00:41:25.120 be a mob outside their house and you're going to have to move and probably you're never going to get

00:41:29.240 a job again. And if you do get a job, well, good luck making the money that you used to be making.

00:41:34.360 And that tends to be the case time and time again with these sort of progressive narratives and

00:41:39.020 revisions is that you have to take down the old and bring up something new that illustrates that

00:41:43.660 you are the victor. And if that means that we have to totally revise history to where,

00:41:48.600 you know, Reese Witherspoon is prostrating and on her knees before, you know, a man in a dress,

00:41:55.460 then so be it. That's the way it has to go for them.

00:41:58.240 Yeah, no, it's absolutely true. And it's amazing. You know, you remember the, of course,

00:42:03.560 the punch of the Nazi meme, right? Which was the, you know, which is a lot of what you're talking

00:42:08.080 about justifying that violence. If I can, if, of course we can punch Nazis, Nazis are evil. Oh, 0.99

00:42:12.520 and it turns out anyone who disagrees with me is a Nazi. Therefore, I get to punch everyone I 0.99

00:42:16.500 disagree with. And that violence is not just acceptable, but righteous. Right. And it's funny 0.96

00:42:21.040 because, you know, first someone like Captain in America is a very difficult character for the left,

00:42:26.940 right? Because it's an embodiment of patriotism and this history that they hate. And, and it's very

00:42:32.580 difficult for them to process that character. That's somebody that they laughed at and scoffed at,

00:42:37.080 despised, deconstructed over and over again. And then, you know, you, they enter this phase where,

00:42:42.080 with something like camper and Captain America, where he's, he himself is dejected, right? He

00:42:46.720 himself is, he's deconstructing his own existence. He, uh, how can I follow America when it's like

00:42:52.440 this? How can everything I believed in is falling apart. And now they've come back around and now

00:42:57.960 Captain America beats up a bunch of, uh, villains who are talking like Jordan Peterson,

00:43:04.400 right. They, they, they literally took pieces of Jordan Peterson's like speeches and put them

00:43:09.100 into the mouth of red skull. And so now Captain America is re imagined, not as something to be

00:43:14.640 avoided, not something to be chided, not for something to be, uh, dejected or, or scorned or

00:43:19.620 laughed at or, and no longer like something that's a, uh, you know, deconstruction of America and is

00:43:25.340 disappointed and has lost his faith. But now he's fully restored in the same cartoonish,

00:43:30.260 1940s, uh, propaganda, uh, usage. It's just now he's pumping, punching the ideas of someone who

00:43:39.960 would have been in, you know, the, on the American side, 1945 would have been an American GI,

00:43:45.720 but he's, he's punching people who are espousing the views of people who otherwise probably would

00:43:50.260 have been fighting the Nazis in the first place. Right. And so it's just funny to see that come full 0.68

00:43:54.440 circle when we're talking about the way that they see themselves, the way they justify their use of

00:43:59.640 propaganda, their, their re, uh, tooling of characters. It's not just the alteration of

00:44:04.780 words and books. It's the complete repurposing of forms because they can't really create forms of

00:44:10.880 their own. They're not very good at, uh, really creating this kind of stuff anymore. Everyone can

00:44:16.640 feel that in Hollywood. Everyone can feel that in the cultures, how stale it's become, how impossible

00:44:20.980 it is for them to really breathe any kind of life into something and create a new form, a new way of

00:44:25.860 being. And the only thing they can do is go back and basically reconstruct the, the very propaganda

00:44:31.480 they used to make fun of and repurpose it for their own, you know, very shallow construction of,

00:44:38.820 uh, the, of kind of this woke religious mindset. Yeah. And this is why, again, they have to take

00:44:44.800 these, you know, heroes of old and sort of, uh, reconstruct them in a way that hasn't anything

00:44:51.460 to do with their original meaning, whether that be a few years back, they said, Superman wasn't

00:44:56.240 going to say truth, justice in the American way, or captain America punching Jordan Peterson as red

00:45:01.340 skull. Uh, these things are done because again, it's that identification with evil. They, they know

00:45:07.120 what they believe in is antithetical to civilization. I mean, uh, let's, I think I replied to your tweet

00:45:13.060 when we were talking about the definition of woke from that one character is just the wokeness

00:45:17.280 as we know it as anti-civilizational. We have to deconstruct everything and we have to rebuild it

00:45:22.320 so that the identification with evil is then the inversion of values. And now it's the identification

00:45:28.660 with all that is good. Um, you know, we see this often, most likely, like you said, with captain

00:45:33.380 America and other franchises, I think they were joking about making like Luke Skywalker gay now with 0.87

00:45:38.580 the sort of Disney properties. These things are meant to illustrate that there is an innate sort of

00:45:43.400 ugliness with what they want to advocate for a liberation of all things, you know, taken away

00:45:48.640 from any traditional moral order or civic, you know, orderliness that we see within societies.

00:45:55.020 You know, we have to say that, no, the, the things that made the country, what it is today and what

00:45:59.920 made it good, you know, are no longer applicable to us. And I think that these things are done primarily

00:46:05.960 so they don't have to look at the mirror in themselves, not just physically, but ideologically,

00:46:09.780 because, you know, if you can convince yourself and hype yourself up that, you know, it is okay

00:46:14.320 to punch a Nazi, even though the guy that you just punched was your neighbor that had, you know,

00:46:17.960 babysat your kids or, you know, invited you to their cookout on a Sunday afternoon to grill, 0.94

00:46:22.860 it doesn't matter now. You know, you can find any sort of justification under this sort of

00:46:27.040 progressiveness, uh, to ensure that, no, actually that guy is my existential enemy and to do it.

00:46:33.280 Um, you know, and in a lot of ways that sort of illustrates the point that, um, in city journal,

00:46:38.840 that NS Lyons wrote that, you know, actually it is the progressives that are sort of the true

00:46:43.540 inheritors of Carl Schmitt's friend enemy distinction is because any question that they ask are these

00:46:48.620 formulated, perfectly packaged wedge questions, uh, in order to, uh, determine is your way of belief,

00:46:55.740 is your way of life, um, one day down the line, an existential threat to my existence. And if so,

00:47:01.260 I better preemptively take care of you now, this is why we've seen everything from,

00:47:05.280 you know, uh, promoting openly Satanism inside church, uh, inside of, you know, schools for

00:47:10.740 afterschool clubs and groups, um, you know, giving carte blanche inside America, and also more

00:47:16.140 recently in Canada to destroy, um, traditional religious orders and churches. These things are

00:47:22.060 meant to ensure that from childhood, from cradle to grave, um, everything that you believe in is

00:47:28.080 considered right, progressive, you're heroic, but for many outsider like us would look at this and

00:47:33.580 see that, no, this is evil, destructive, and will inevitably bring down the civilization that once

00:47:37.920 existed here. Yeah. And like you said, it's, it's really important. If you're going to turn neighbor

00:47:42.360 against neighbor like that, if you're going to push the revolution to the point where you can,

00:47:46.840 you can have people look at the guy who, you know, they used to, you know, go to their pool party and

00:47:51.840 babysit each, you know, kids and stuff and look at that person as just existential, uh, evil, then

00:47:58.360 they, they have to alter the shared past that would allow you to bind together and see each other as

00:48:05.760 sharing something that, a value that, that, that kind of, uh, holds you together. And so that's why,

00:48:11.800 you know, again, none of this is new when you look at, you know, what history is being taught in the

00:48:17.640 last 30 years and 40 years in government schools. It's really essential for them to go back and

00:48:24.860 pretend, you know, slavery is just a construction of America. So, you know, I, I used to teach, uh,

00:48:29.940 you know, high school history and guess what? Uh, they focus a lot on the Spanish slave trade

00:48:34.420 because so many came to America. They focus of course on every slave that ever, uh, was held in

00:48:39.920 the United States. And funny enough, when you get to Islam, when you get to any of the, uh, you know, 0.97

00:48:44.680 Islamic civilizations, there's just almost no information on that. And I don't live in a 1.00

00:48:50.140 particularly liberal state. I wasn't teaching a particularly liberal area. This is everywhere

00:48:54.200 and has been for many, many decades. Right. And we see this with like the 1950s meme. I'm sure

00:48:59.220 everyone, uh, or a lot of people watching this have seen that 1950s meme where it's a, it's the happy,

00:49:04.060 uh, family grilling in the backyard. Uh, but, uh, you know, someone has gone in and, and, uh, you know,

00:49:10.380 erased all of the, the, or given thought bubbles to everyone. And, you know, one's like,

00:49:14.560 I'm gay. I think the woman's like, I'm depressed and trapped in my home. And the father's like,

00:49:18.420 I'm having an affair, you know? And of course the message here is the past was never good.

00:49:22.980 You know, no one ever owned homes. No one ever had intact families. There was never, uh, there

00:49:29.100 are never safe streets. So, you know, there was never a place where you could go, where you had,

00:49:32.660 didn't have to worry about shoplifting. And, you know, there, there was never a, uh, a scenario where

00:49:37.600 people were happy and worshiped God and, and, you know, were bound together in a community by,

00:49:42.980 uh, you know, this religious context. These are all just illusions and we have to 0.86

00:49:47.580 shatter them every moment because if there was that shared background, if there was that thing

00:49:51.280 to identify with, people might not be willing to turn on each other like this for the new cultural

00:49:56.400 gods. Absolutely. And I think this is the, another reason why you had seen so much of, of recasting

00:50:02.440 or even period pieces being illustrated for the, the sake of diversity. I think Bridgerton comes to

00:50:08.780 mind on, on Netflix, uh, which shouldn't give your money to, to begin with. Um, but you have to

00:50:14.560 recast it to where the, the past to this sort of, you know, uh, culturally and, um, ethnically

00:50:20.440 homogenous past of the 1950s, which again, they, they target the fifties and sixties so much

00:50:26.520 before all the sort of, uh, hippiedome and the progressive side of its revolution of the civil

00:50:31.160 rights era, because it's documented. There is plenty of historical footage of the 1920s,

00:50:36.600 thirties, forties, and fifties that illustrates a homogenous unified American culture that wasn't

00:50:44.140 advocating for the destruction of its own values of its own founders and principles. Even at the time

00:50:50.720 when a lot of these sort of, um, Confederate memorials that were being put up, a lot of this

00:50:56.220 is happening in the 1910s and twenties as a way to sort of bury the hatchet as America becomes a more

00:51:01.660 globalized power in the midst of the horrors of reconstruction. All of these things had taken place

00:51:07.040 where, you know, soldiers would shake hands left or right, the gray and the blue looking over photos

00:51:10.620 and meeting one another. Uh, that doesn't have to happen. That doesn't happen nowadays because,

00:51:15.160 you know, the past wasn't actually as, um, peaceful and as, you know, culturally nice as it was where I

00:51:21.480 could go out somewhere and leave my car unlocked, or I didn't have to worry about the, the trains

00:51:26.300 constantly derailing. But nowadays, no, we're now dealing with a, an institution of government,

00:51:32.200 but also of culture. And it's many facets that exist that want to tell you that, no, like this

00:51:37.520 is the way that it's going to be. And if you protest it, well, clearly you're a Nazi and we have to punch 0.99

00:51:42.040 you out. But secondly, no, the past was always like this. Your childhood was never actually as good as 0.99

00:51:47.580 it once was. It was always diverse. It was always going to have problems with, you know, crime or

00:51:52.020 inequality, or you were always the oppressor by birth. These are the aspects of progressivism.

00:51:58.620 And I know that sometimes it can be a difficult thing to, to walk on. It can sort of be a trip

00:52:03.720 mining conversation or even in politics. Lord knows we've seen that on the right more times than we

00:52:08.000 care to count, but that tends to be the nature of how this operates. And I think that it's very good

00:52:13.720 that these things are being addressed. I think Michael Anton's piece about the celebration parallax,

00:52:18.140 you know, it's not, it's not happening, but it's a good thing that it's happening with regards to

00:52:21.960 immigration, you know, thousands of people just crossed the U S Mexico border by force into El

00:52:26.700 Paso, Texas. And, you know, they're not going to do anything. They want this because this means later

00:52:31.520 down the line, um, it's easier to have lower civic engagement. It's less likely for you to organize

00:52:37.020 politically against the government or the system. And in doing so, um, it makes it easier to control

00:52:42.720 and rule you when nobody trusts one another. Nobody knows what the actual history of the past really

00:52:47.760 was. And it's constantly being erased and rewritten every day, both in public education,

00:52:53.680 movies, culture, media, television, et cetera. And to speak out against it. Well, I hope you're okay

00:52:59.680 with losing your job. Yeah. And before we, you know, we're getting to the end of our hour here,

00:53:06.020 before we go, I want to take some time to talk about the importance of decentralization and physical

00:53:12.820 media. I think this is probably obvious to a lot of people, given that they're just editing books,

00:53:17.640 uh, but it becomes incredibly important for the preservation of your culture and for the,

00:53:24.140 your connection to the past and for just your general sanity and ability to show that like,

00:53:29.280 there is a, uh, you know, there is a continuity to reality and you haven't lost your mind that you,

00:53:36.320 you get off the digital carousel in a lot of ways. You need to own physical copies of books,

00:53:42.720 especially books written before these different years, zeros that we, as we can see from the

00:53:46.820 alteration of like goosebumps, like nothing is safe, right. This is only written what 30 years

00:53:52.480 ago at most at this point. Um, and, and, and so those things, you know, even newer books aren't

00:53:57.680 necessarily safe, but you need to, you don't need to own your back catalog on Kindle guys. Okay. You

00:54:02.580 don't need to only view movies through your streaming services. Those things are going to get

00:54:07.460 disappeared. Those things are going to get edited. The, the digital books you have are going to get,

00:54:11.400 uh, edited and you're not even going to know that it was done. You know, the, all of this

00:54:16.000 will, will happen, you know, again, the market solution here, you know, the, the Roald Dahl books,

00:54:20.960 they're coming out and they're doing a classic edition without the edits. So the market can always

00:54:25.440 solve the problem, right? Don't worry. You know, there's, there's, there, the real books are still

00:54:29.080 there if you want them and we get to reissue them and, you know, fancy new, more expensive,

00:54:33.100 you know, bindings for collectors or whatever. So they're going to use these methods to try to

00:54:40.000 destroy history. And it's really important during this time, you know, there, there are many people

00:54:45.300 ask, what can we do? What can we do in the times like this? And one of the things you can do is

00:54:49.240 preserve, you know, you, you're, you can't always stop different parts of the cultural revolution,

00:54:54.740 but you can save things. You can preserve things from what's happening. Right. And so making sure that

00:55:00.160 you own physical copies of these things, not just books, of course, also, you know, movies,

00:55:04.320 movies, music, other media that everyone's gotten used to, to streaming, gotten used to having

00:55:11.840 digitally needs to be acquired in, in physical copies that are not connected to some central thing

00:55:17.820 where they can be altered, downloaded, you know, reconfigured and, and represented without you

00:55:23.580 knowing also decentralization. Okay. You cannot have regional particularities. You cannot, you cannot

00:55:31.320 respect regional sensibilities and cultures. These things cannot emerge until the cultural

00:55:37.880 distribution networks are broken, which means things like defunding public schools, you know,

00:55:43.300 or finding alternative avenues for education. The work of guys like Corey DeAngelis or Chris Rufo,

00:55:51.100 freeing the education money that parents are paying in taxes from the centralized system and allowing it to

00:55:56.980 go back to alternatives that might be able to differentiate instruction, create new, you know,

00:56:03.940 courses, that kind of stuff is really powerful. It doesn't seem like it's important in the moment.

00:56:10.100 It doesn't seem as central as like winning a big election or, you know, some sweeping legislation,

00:56:15.540 but all of that stuff, it gets manipulated and broken down anyway through the centralized system.

00:56:20.400 What you need to do is detach in every way possible, your cultural consumption, cultural camp rat or 0.71

00:56:27.360 your culture apparatus from the system. And that's why the things like alternative media, things like,

00:56:35.200 you know, social media, where we can break away and create fractures, alternatives like blaze TV and

00:56:40.640 others allow you to have some distribution outside of that censorship and that ability to constantly

00:56:46.980 alter what's going on. Yeah, I would only just urge your audience and those listening on every other

00:56:55.000 platform that in times where it seems like the barbarians at the door, you know, the preservation

00:57:01.420 of physical media is something that we have to do or we're called upon to do it. Oftentimes, you know,

00:57:07.360 there's that myth from new atheists and sort of people that read Gibbons, you know, declining fall of

00:57:12.500 the Roman Empire, that we fell into some kind of dark ages. Well, primarily what was preserved were

00:57:18.340 by Western Christian and Eastern Roman and, you know, Byzantine, you know, monasteries and officials

00:57:25.480 that preserved great works of literature. We have so many translations of the Iliad and the Odyssey

00:57:30.740 today and other great works by Plato, Aristotle and Homer, because those people took it upon them to

00:57:35.700 preserve that and carry it on for the next generation. So if that means preserving is something as simple

00:57:40.820 as a children's book like Ronald Dahl, or even Goosebumps, or greater important pieces of

00:57:46.180 documentation of historical importance to you, you have to do it. We're called upon to do it because

00:57:52.580 if this stuff is erased now, it's not coming back 50, 60, 2000 years later. It will be gone by these

00:58:00.180 people because their control over media, the digital network and systems are far greater than any time

00:58:06.900 of period of say, you know, the Visigoths or the Gauls are coming down to sack Rome.

00:58:12.420 It's a lot different now. And it's a lot more encompassing and totalizing. And so you're going

00:58:17.620 to have to be that, you know, monastic out in the middle of nowhere in Italy, or out in the middle of

00:58:22.740 nowhere in Greece or Turkey, that's going to preserve these great works. And if that means you have a giant

00:58:28.340 library that you get to pass on to your children, what a blessing for your kids. What a blessing for your

00:58:33.680 wife. What a blessing for your friends that realizes, oh, this guy actually has a translation

00:58:37.840 of, you know, Ronald Dahl about the witches, where they didn't take out everything that was bad. Or

00:58:42.000 you have an original copy of all the James Bond books by Ian Fleming that includes all sorts of

00:58:47.300 cultural insensitivities of today, but were perfectly fine back then. Those things are going to be all the 0.99

00:58:52.880 more important in the future. And I can't agree with Oren more than physical media and being able to not

00:58:58.400 be just hooked on the Netflix, you know, right into your veins. That stuff matters more than ever,

00:59:03.120 because, you know, even though the entertainment might be good, at the same time, what's being pumped into

00:59:07.840 your eye sockets, your brains and your blood system is only going to be the same progressive twisting of the

00:59:13.140 knife that they want you gone, and that the civilization that you and your forefathers built isn't worth the

00:59:18.160 time, and they got to make it something new.

00:59:20.200 Absolutely. You got to carry that stuff into the future, guys. Like, make home libraries great again, you know,

00:59:25.760 get back in there, start collecting this stuff, prepare to pass it on to the next generation, make sure that

00:59:32.060 this moves forward no matter what, right? Because this will continue, you won't have control of all

00:59:38.700 of it. It's going to take a long time before, you know, the right is in a position to be able to

00:59:45.200 preserve these things on the wider, you know, civilizational scale. And so you have to do the

00:59:49.980 work one family at a time, one community at a time. And like the Prudential said, you are called to do

00:59:56.700 this. It's a moral imperative. So, you know, buy old books, read them, carry them on, tell people

01:00:03.040 about them, you know, make sure that you are being part of that cultural continuity that you're

01:00:08.620 passing that on. Because if you don't do it, no one else will. It certainly won't be the television.

01:00:13.700 It certainly won't be the movie theater. It certainly won't be anything else. So you got to

01:00:17.400 make sure that you do that. All right, guys, well, we're going to go ahead and start wrapping this up.

01:00:21.420 But before we do, Prudentialist, please let us know where can we find all of your very excellent work?

01:00:26.700 Thank you, Oren, once again, for having me on. If you don't mind me plugging, say,

01:00:30.200 someone like Rogue Scholar Books, these people actually do publish older literature that you're

01:00:33.840 interested in, Mystery Grove, Imperium Press, those guys would be the place to go shop for.

01:00:38.020 But my work can be found on YouTube, Substack, everywhere. I have a great link down below in

01:00:42.360 the description called findmyfriends.net slash the Prudentialist. I cover American culture,

01:00:47.240 politics, religion, and international relations. And that's where you can primarily find me is

01:00:52.100 YouTube, Substack, Odyssey, Twitter, Telegram, all links where I might be found can be

01:00:56.520 down, down below. Absolutely, guys, make sure that you are doing that. Make sure that you're

01:01:01.220 checking out the Prudentialist work. And of course, if this is your first time here, you can go ahead

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01:01:20.860 Thanks again to the Prudentialist for coming on. Really appreciate it. Always a great discussion.

01:01:25.140 And as always, guys, I'll talk to you next time.

The Auron MacIntyre Show - March 15, 2023

The Woke Erasure of the Past ｜ Guest： The Prudentialist ｜ 3⧸15⧸23

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