The Prudentialist joins me this afternoon to talk about censorship, revisionism, and why we need to go back in time to the days of Roald Dahl and his classic children's stories. We also talk about why the left is so obsessed with revisionism and why it needs to return to censorship.
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00:01:44.200We're going to be talking about the destruction of America's past.
00:01:48.220We're going to be looking at why the left is so obsessed with revisionism, why it needs to go back and censor books, reconstruct classic child tales, why it needs to tear down statues, and why everything is year zero.
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00:03:53.920All right, guys, let's go ahead and jump right into it.
00:03:57.260So as many of you have probably heard, there's been a big ruckus about different authors having their work censored, specifically children's authors.
00:04:09.220We've seen children's authors like Raul Dahl's work get censored.
00:04:17.040And so his works have been altered after his death.
00:04:20.560But we even found out that the works of people like R.L.
00:04:23.740Stein, someone I remember reading when I was a kid, the first person to introduce me to the idea of horror, kind of spooky stories as a kid, something that I really loved when I was young.
00:04:34.480And, you know, his stuff got censored.
00:04:36.920And the funny thing was, yeah, there was the story that came out and they said, we can't believe there's this rash of authors doing this.
00:04:43.260Can you believe even, you know, living authors like R.L.
00:04:45.700Stein are saying, oh, yes, let's go ahead and alter this.
00:04:52.700And it turns out that his books were altered behind his back without any knowledge, you know, removing things like allusions to slavery.
00:05:02.600You know, there's in Roald Dahl's books, they remove like people being fat that, you know, they're just just all the kinds of stuff that you would expect, all the politically correct censorship, all the woke censorship.
00:05:12.340And as you can expect, just a lot of people are very outraged about this.
00:05:31.980Stein, but I only think I really watched the movies of things like, you know, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory or James and the Giant Peach.
00:05:57.400I mean, we've seen a lot of other things throughout 2020, throughout the French Revolution, where histories and records have been altered or changed to fit the history of this new ideology that takes place in our world.
00:06:12.000Yeah, I think it's really interesting that, you know, the left, of course, warned about all of this stuff.
00:06:53.520Yeah, I think that this is primarily because the concerns of 1984, where Orwell is writing against the, you know, terrors and dangers of Stalinism.
00:07:03.460Well, it kind of fits rather well with what the, you know, what we would consider liberal or progressives today won.
00:07:09.100In fact, there was a great book I've been reading by a Polish gentleman who was in the resistance against the USSR called The Demon in Democracy, The Totalitarian Temptations in Free Societies.
00:07:20.380And what he was writing was, is that, well, the reason why a lot of communist ideas or individuals never got punished after the Cold War is because a lot of their ideas and end goals for an end of history,
00:07:31.100a progressive never-ending revolution, still fit very much in line with a lot of our liberal and progressive values in the West,
00:07:39.140which gives us very easy to have certain ideas about censorship or having things change behind our back to fit a new political narrative,
00:07:48.580a new national history, a new civic religion.
00:07:51.140And because a lot of these two, you know, ideologies, liberalism and communism, share very distinct end respective goals,
00:08:00.300whether that's to enlighten and elaborate to ensure that all of the masses are put equally on this egalitarian plane or that there is total liberation from hierarchy.
00:08:09.960And so anything that we see with regards to allusions to fatness, intelligence, quality, character, the history of men that they would consider to be oppressive
00:08:18.960happens time and time again throughout our, you know, politics right now.
00:08:26.120This is just the latest wave of things.
00:08:28.280Even in the UK, the Welsh government was talking about destroying and taking down statues of people like Wellington and countless others,
00:08:36.600where they literally say statues of old white men may need to be destroyed according to their concerns about the British Empire.
00:08:44.060So a lot of this stuff has also come here at home for the United States.
00:08:47.660And it's a tale as old as time when it comes to revolutionary ideas.
00:08:52.520I mean, during the French Revolution, you know, they destroyed the mainly a lot of peasants and farm workers had destroyed quite a bit of records
00:09:00.560and written documents from government officials because they associated it with oppression, whether it would be tax documents or ledgers.
00:09:07.440So changing children's books, just as we've seen with, say, Drag Queen Story Hour,
00:09:12.480if they can indoctrinate you earlier and earlier to prevent any other worldview from existing,
00:09:18.120then it makes it very easy to look at people and say, well, why would you deny, you know, this part of your history?
00:09:23.460You know, whether that be some progressive narrative or saying that, you know, you can be healthy at every size.
00:09:28.960This is the sort of madness that we're dealing with.
00:09:31.900Yeah, it really is an erosion of kind of all understanding of what came before.
00:09:37.300And Steve Fitch here has a great quote.
00:09:48.000We have to shove the sexual indoctrination of children into every school library in the United States.
00:09:55.260You know, it's funny because at the same time that they're altering these books,
00:10:00.460they're literally just showing, they're getting these staged photos and staged videos of school librarians purging the books that Ron DeSantis has banned from Florida libraries.
00:10:11.400It's like, oh, so how many porn books did you have in your children's library, right?
00:10:16.520But at the same time, you know, they're doing this and saying, how could you attack books?
00:10:48.040It's things that they want to make sure to eliminate the concept of, right?
00:10:51.360If you can get the concept out, if you can get that away from children and young, then you can go ahead and alter their reality going forward.
00:10:58.760And so it's a really essential part of their project.
00:11:01.740And I really think it's interesting that you have something like 1984 out there because, of course, 1984, it's in many ways written for the masses.
00:11:10.700It's there to warn people about what's going to happen.
00:11:13.400But the kind of omnipresent nature of that narrative, that warning, doesn't seem to have caused anyone hesitation when it comes to the actual implementation of the totalitarian ideology.
00:11:26.980It really tells you that it doesn't matter, you know, telling, warning the masses about an inevitable outcome really has almost no impact on their actual behavior.
00:11:37.340Yeah, and like you had said, if you can totally rewrite history and you can start them young, that's sort of the way to keep things socialized on this never-ending march of revolution and liberation.
00:11:48.620I mean, a really good example of this, as we've talked about, are these sort of books that are pornographic in nature, as well as the Drag Queen Story Hour.
00:11:56.180I mean, in a normal social studies environment, we would see things like cynophobia, right, like the fear of dogs.
00:12:02.740And the way that you would get children to be less afraid of dogs is that you would expose them to dogs and other children engaged in sort of lively play or in a pleasant and calm environment that other people are encouraging you to participate in.
00:12:15.960And eventually that breaks down the fear.
00:12:17.560And the same way that you can do that with Drag Queen Story Hour, things that would naturally trigger the uncanny valley or a sense of disgust, if you get to them early, you can do so.
00:12:26.500And the same thing with these sort of books, whether it's with children's books, the access to pornographic material is quote-unquote sex ed and public education.
00:12:34.580All that this illustrates is that if you can change someone's opinion and get them conditioned and socialized, it makes it very easy for them to rat on their parents if they hold differing beliefs.
00:12:44.780It's the, again, it goes back to, you know, that book, Demon and Democracy.
00:12:49.260The problem is, is that, you know, very easily to transfer the idea of, you know, children in socialist republics of the Soviet Union reporting on their parents for, you know, counter-revolutionary thought.
00:13:00.580The same thing can happen, I imagine, in the future.
00:13:02.860And we've already seen it where some parents would be reported to the FBI by their, you know, progressive teenage kids because they went to the Capitol on January 6th.
00:13:11.460Yeah, turning the child against the parent is kind of the final step of the total state, right?
00:13:18.260Once you have completely destroyed that most fundamental bond and loyalty of literally the person who gave birth and cared for you, then there's nothing the government can't control.
00:13:28.900And so that's why, you know, no matter what the totalitarian system, mastering the ability to break through and destroy that barrier between parent or that bond between parent and child really is one of the key functions of the state when they want to do that.
00:13:45.700And I think you're also right to point out the important overlap between kind of the eternal revolution of the communist and the eternal revolution of the liberal.
00:13:55.820You know, like you're saying, French Revolution, you know, what do they do?
00:13:58.960They don't just, they don't just, you know, tear down Notre Dame.
00:14:02.240They immediately install the goddess of reason in Notre Dame, right?
00:14:05.880Because we need to, it's not enough to just desecrate.
00:14:09.120You need to replace, you need to, you need to exalt something else in its place.
00:14:13.520Because the left, even though they wouldn't admit this immediately out loud, definitely understands the need for a ruling ideology, for a ruling religion.
00:14:22.820They understand that there needs to be a state religion and that you must replace, you know, that which was held sacred with something new.
00:14:32.820And so you might, you know, D, you might take it away from the divine.
00:14:36.500You might take it away from the realm of the supernatural.
00:14:39.880But you can't just leave that void there.
00:14:42.920And that's something that conservatives, ironically, don't seem to understand.
00:14:46.740They think they can just strip wokeness, you know, remove CRT, whatever, out of a school system, out of society, and then just return to some kind of neutral state.
00:14:56.500But the left understands that iconoclasm needs to be followed by the, you know, the creation of your own gods, your own statues, your own mythos, your own belief system that will fill that spiritual void, whether they're willing to turn it into, you know, or acknowledge it in spiritual terms or not.
00:15:14.140Absolutely. And I think that the progressive side of our of our liberal state that we do live in, you know, there's a great Twitter account named Koveyfe Anon that has a really great phrase, the woke are more correct than the mainstream.
00:15:28.360And so, like you had said, they know that you need to have a ruling ideology, a ruling religion, and you have to replace or subsume, or as you like to tweet, they'll take your religion and wear it as a skin suit in order to get their ideology across.
00:15:41.280They're also more correct because they need to make sure that all essences of the past are totally destroyed, or better yet, are totally illustrated in a negative light so that people are going to be aware of the social consequences of being associated with it.
00:15:56.480I mean, the Roman Empire had something known as damnatio memore, where they would totally erase your imagery, they would try and destroy you from any official records of your existence, if you were ever considered a traitor to the emperor, the nation, or the Roman ideal, to where you could have family portraits, and someone on that portrait's face is literally scrubbed out of existence.
00:16:15.920I mean, the Soviets had done the same thing with their images being edited by Stalin, and now we're seeing the same thing here with this sort of stealth edits of television shows, certain episodes being removed, whether it be South Park or Seinfeld, and now with children's literature as well.
00:16:32.220So yes, this form of iconoclasm has a long history throughout humanity when there's time for revolution or to maintain control of your own population if people get too rowdy.
00:16:43.380Yeah, and I just wanted to play a little bit of footage. I mean, I'm sure we're all very familiar with this, but you know, a few, it's not even a few years ago at this point. When did the Statues Must Fall movement begin at this point? Four years ago, perhaps?
00:16:59.400Yeah, probably 2020 is really when it kicked off, but it had started even earlier. I mean, our good friend Alexander Adams, who's an artist and also an author, he wrote a book literally called Iconoclasm, Identity Politics and the Erasure of History back in 2018, I think.
00:17:14.820And, you know, this, it's been going on for quite some time that, you know, it'll start with, you know, Confederate statues, as Trump warned while he was in office, and now we're talking about trying to get rid of, you know, Jefferson, I think New York City just a couple of years back had taken down the statue of President Theodore Roosevelt from the Natural History Museum in New York City.
00:17:35.100So, once you start, you know, you have to go the full way here. And right now, what we seem to be showing off is that, and this constantly egalitarian, anti-racist, liberal, progressive society that we want to use America to be the ultimate example of, that means sort of demonstrating the absolute destruction and erasure of its, you know, white, settler, frontiersman past.
00:17:58.500And it's, it's interesting, because, of course, we see this all the time, right? We see this on every front when it comes to, unfortunately, many mainstream conservatives, but they started with the Confederate statues, and there were suddenly many, you know, conservative who came out and said, you know what, I'm fine with that. That's fine. You know, these people are traitors. These people, they lost, you know, that's good. You know, get rid of them, you know, put them in a museum somewhere.
00:18:26.780They don't belong, they don't belong, you know, being, you know, they're never going to attack the bigger stuff. It's never going to be a problem. You know, they'll get rid of the Confederates, and they deserve it. And then slowly but surely, of course, the, you know, the statues of Teddy Roosevelt and Abraham Lincoln, you know, the arguments can be made there.
00:18:46.240But, you know, the statues of, you know, George Washington and Thomas Jefferson, all of a sudden, they start disappearing. And it turns out all those conservative guys, in theory, the guys who are out there saying, it's fine if we take down the Confederates, and it'll stop there.
00:19:03.840All of them just disappeared when these, their heroes were started getting torn down. And so this is how the left always does it. They go to some kind of quarter case, they think that's going to be possibly defensible. They pull it down there, their allies and the squishy conservative portion of the media start, you know, running cover for them, explaining how possibly there could be a reason why this needs to happen.
00:19:29.840And by the time, you know, that the movement has moved beyond their own justifying logic, it's too late. And they don't, they don't come the defense of any of this stuff at the end. They don't, they certainly don't switch and say, Oh, wait, I was wrong. I have to go back and stop it. Because the goal has already been achieved, achieved, people have already normalized this action. The police know to stand down, they know to just, you know, stand back and watch this, let it happen. And that's also a very key part of this that people need to remember.
00:19:58.020The state doesn't need to do this, right? We have private publishers, private companies, erasing the past in these books, altering them for political correctness. We have quasi legal mobs, these mobs that should be illegal, they should be doing something illegal, but basically have the blessing of the state because they're not being stopped.
00:20:22.160And anytime the state is actively not stopping a crime guys like this, you need to understand the state is endorsing it. When the state doesn't stop a BLM rise it, a BLM protest, a BLM riot, they are endorsing that riot. When they don't stop the destruction of these statues, they're endorsing it.
00:20:39.940When they don't stop the terrorizing of people, the massive theft. When they don't stop these things, they are actively endorsing it. And so we can see that the state doesn't have to take action.
00:20:51.940They don't have to violate the Constitution. They don't have to, you know, actually do anything that formally crosses the line.
00:20:58.840They can simply give a knowing nod to those that will do their work for them.
00:21:03.160Yeah, I think that's the biggest aspect and takeaway of Sam Francis's description of anarcho tyranny is that your biggest, you know, state sponsor of domestic terrorism really is the government when it opts to just simply stand back and stand by and let these things happen to accomplish a very similar ideological goal.
00:21:22.260Whether that be what we saw in 2020, when there was alleged lockdowns across the country, but somehow you were immune to a virus if you were protesting, you know, racism and police brutality, and these things tend to happen to secure an achieved goal.
00:21:37.480And when you have similar ideologies in both the state and the private sector, that's when the public-private distinction gets incredibly murky and almost pointless because it really doesn't matter when, you know, say, Jen Psaki was when she was the, you know.
00:21:52.660So you've always been picky about your produce, but now you find yourself checking every label to make sure it's Canadian.
00:22:10.560It wouldn't matter what she had to say, what the official position of the White House was, or what, you know, her position may be from the government, because it was also going to be shared by virtually everyone else inside Silicon Valley, the mainstream press, Democratic activists, and those that work at ActBlue in order to accomplish a very specific goal.
00:22:27.300And they know that they can simply stand back and stand by when they know that there have been powerful progressive financiers that have funded, you know, district attorney campaigns to ensure that these people aren't going to be lenient.
00:22:38.720You have an opportunity to take advantage of the fact that we're not going to be as tough on crime as we used to be.
00:22:43.500And so, yeah, I mean, this is where the state can simply allow these things to take place, and not anyone's going to do about it.
00:22:50.460Because when we see any instance of, you know, the right doing something, that's when the full brunt of the state will come down against them.
00:22:57.640I mean, we saw that most clearly, I think, recently, when Tucker Carlson was covering the Douglas Mackey trial, when similar people were making very progressive memes about the 2016 election, and he was doing the same thing, but to support Trump.
00:23:11.780You know, the regime came down on him, you know, years after that election, only when Biden got into office.
00:23:18.080Yeah, people need to understand that, of course, you know, politics is about rewarding your friends and punishing your enemies.
00:23:26.960They understand the goal, they understand what they want to do, they don't have any, going, this is the misconception by so many on the right.
00:23:35.420They think that if you can just go back and rewrite the Constitution, or have some kind of, you know, some kind of convention of the states, go back and add a few extra, you know, amendments, and fix a clause loophole or two,
00:23:47.780then all of a sudden, the government will be magically forced to follow the new language in the Constitution.
00:23:54.260But the government doesn't follow the language in the Constitution now.
00:23:58.040They don't follow the language in their own laws now.
00:24:01.060The obvious truth is that there is no equal protection under the law in the United States.
00:24:06.140There is a degree of this, of course, we should acknowledge.
00:24:09.140Like, they're not just going out and rounding up, you know, hosts on the blaze or something like that, right?
00:24:14.000So there is some level of neutrality they need to pretend, they need to kind of respect at some level.
00:24:22.100But out of these edges, where they have the option of identifying things as a crime, they will, because it reliably lets them punish their enemies,
00:24:34.180whether they're spying on Catholics at the Latin Mass, whether they're arresting pro-life protesters,
00:24:40.680whether they are ignoring the murder of an unarmed woman at the nation's capital.
00:24:49.660You know, these are decisions that they're making repeatedly to show who actually is favored, who's in charge,
00:24:56.760who's going to win these competitions, and who's going to lose them.
00:25:00.000And if you continue to think that you're just going to, you know, write a few laws,
00:25:03.700you're going to rearrange things, then you're going to be able to kind of protect this stuff.