The Auron MacIntyre Show - Tim Walz Is DANGEROUS to Parental Rights and Free Speech ｜ Guest： Andrew Isker ｜ 8⧸26⧸24

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00:00:30.440 Hey everybody, how's it going? Thanks for joining me this afternoon.

00:00:34.160 I've got a great stream with a great guest that I think you're really going to enjoy.

00:00:39.120 So Tim Walls kind of came out of nowhere.

00:00:41.560 Obviously Kamala Sedley getting cooed into the run for the presidency was a surprise for a lot of people. 1.00

00:00:49.320 And you wonder who's going to be the vice president in that moment.

00:00:52.720 Tim Walls probably wasn't on most people's original list,

00:00:56.780 but he has now been catapulted into the limelight.

00:00:59.900 The media is trying to do kind of the same snow job they're doing with Kamala Harris. 0.85

00:01:04.480 But with Tim Walls, it's America's dad.

00:01:06.940 He's just a coach that everybody loves.

00:01:09.100 But those who have lived under Tim Walls' governorship recognize that that is not the case.

00:01:15.480 That actually the man is a disaster and more importantly,

00:01:18.920 very dangerous to both things like parental rights and free speech.

00:01:23.460 And somebody who has dealt with that and has chosen to move his family

00:01:26.980 because of the terrible policies enacted by Tim Walls is author and pastor Andrew Isker.

00:01:33.440 Thanks for joining me, man.

00:01:35.180 Yeah, thanks for having me.

00:01:37.040 Yeah, obviously, you know, I don't want to say I'm glad you have this background, this experience.

00:01:43.040 Obviously, it's terrible that you're kind of forced in this situation.

00:01:46.540 But I am glad we can at least use your experience and your knowledge, your firsthand knowledge,

00:01:51.520 kind of share with people what's going on.

00:01:53.620 Because I think a lot of this, so much of this media front game, this facade is put up.

00:01:59.720 People are not familiar with the background.

00:02:01.520 I know I wasn't completely familiar with all of this.

00:02:04.220 And so it's really important to recognize that someone like this is being elevated

00:02:07.740 because that's not a mistake.

00:02:09.100 That's not the Democratic Party just grabbing a random white guy and pasting him onto the ticket. 0.75

00:02:13.680 When you're picking somebody with these kind of ideological priors, you're making a statement.

00:02:20.680 You're making a shift inside the party.

00:02:22.440 So I want to get into all of that.

00:02:25.120 So we're going to talk about Andrew's background, where Waltz came from, everything that came

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00:04:00.860 All right, Andrew, so before we get into Governor Walz, let's begin with your backstory, because

00:04:09.320 like we were talking about before we came on air, so many people are moving all the time.

00:04:16.500 They're uprooted.

00:04:17.380 They're chasing a job or an education or something across the state.

00:04:21.160 They're very transient in that nature.

00:04:22.800 But there are people who are trying to dig down, trying to keep their roots, build community,

00:04:29.000 dedicate themselves to an area, build social capital.

00:04:32.400 And you're one of these people.

00:04:33.640 You're one of these people who believe in this, you know, my hometown.

00:04:36.240 So you're not making a decision to move like this lightly.

00:04:39.800 Can you tell people, you know, your family's history, how long you've been there?

00:04:43.020 Yeah, so I'm from Waseca, Minnesota, which is about an hour, hour and a half south of

00:04:48.900 the Twin Cities.

00:04:50.660 And my family has been here, including my children, for six generations.

00:04:55.880 So my great-great-grandfather emigrated from Germany, spent some time in Wisconsin, and

00:05:01.700 then finally settled here in Minnesota, in Southern Minnesota, in Waseca.

00:05:06.580 And, you know, after college, I went to seminary, I served different churches in a few different

00:05:14.500 parts of the country.

00:05:15.700 The entire time, my wife and I both wanted to be back here.

00:05:19.280 We wanted to be back in Minnesota because this is home for both of us.

00:05:22.420 This is where we grew up, where we know people.

00:05:26.440 And I felt all those things that you're describing, right, that everyone's very transient.

00:05:32.000 And I wanted to push against those things.

00:05:33.600 I wanted to replant my roots and be part of the community that I grew up and I loved.

00:05:42.480 And so we moved back in 2018, after several years away, and thought, well, we're just going

00:05:48.960 to be here forever again, right?

00:05:50.260 This is home.

00:05:51.960 This is where we want to be.

00:05:53.020 And ironically, the year that we moved back is the year that our congressman, Tim Walls,

00:06:00.720 right, he was the congressman in the first district of Minnesota, the Southern Minnesota,

00:06:04.980 ascended to the governor's mansion in Minnesota.

00:06:08.940 And that's when the destruction of the state really took off.

00:06:13.760 And I mean, we knew what Minnesota was like.

00:06:16.300 We knew it was a fairly liberal state, right?

00:06:18.760 This is where the Democratic Party during the progressive era merged with basically the

00:06:24.720 socialist parties, the farmer labor party to be the DFL, right?

00:06:28.860 There isn't a Democratic Party in Minnesota, it's the DFL.

00:06:31.320 So it's always been very progressive and very labor oriented and all of those kind of values

00:06:37.220 of the older progressive era and even a mid-century liberal ideology of the Democratic Party.

00:06:46.080 It's always been an embodiment of that.

00:06:47.620 So we've always had fairly high taxes.

00:06:50.520 We knew that going into it, like, yeah, I'm going to have to pay more in taxes to live

00:06:54.460 in my home.

00:06:57.700 But outstate Minnesota, still very, very conservative culturally.

00:07:02.640 And we love it here.

00:07:05.180 But with Walls taking over, especially after 2020 and everything that happened there, and

00:07:10.640 then when he is able to be reelected, the GOP, which had always for decades had retained

00:07:17.280 the state Senate, and it kind of been this bulwark against all the crazy stuff they've

00:07:22.300 always wanted to do.

00:07:23.040 Because many people in the state legislature had always, always wanted to do insane like

00:07:27.240 California or Oregon or Washington type liberal stuff, right?

00:07:32.740 They've wanted to do that for a long time.

00:07:33.960 We had Paul Wellstone as our senator, and he was the Bernie Sanders 1.0, right? 0.96

00:07:44.040 And this crazy liberal boomer hippie.

00:07:49.400 And so we've had that as part of our political culture here, but there still was enough of 0.93

00:07:55.080 a strong GOP to restrain it.

00:07:58.740 But then after the election in 2022, when the GOP lost the state Senate by a single seat,

00:08:07.280 then they just steamrolled over everything.

00:08:09.400 The very first bill that they passed was to take away every last single restriction on

00:08:16.900 abortion in the state of Minnesota after the Dobbs decision.

00:08:20.960 So they made it completely legal right up until birth, no restrictions on parental consent or

00:08:27.840 anything like that.

00:08:28.660 So anybody for any reason from anywhere could come to Minnesota and have an abortion, right? 0.99

00:08:34.220 As the baby's being born, even.

00:08:36.820 So that was agenda item number one.

00:08:39.020 That was their very first bill.

00:08:40.080 And one of the next bills was the trans refugee state bill, where they put the language in there.

00:08:48.560 And all of these things passed by a single vote in the state Senate, where children could be taken

00:08:56.980 away from their parents if their parents opposed a transitioning, right?

00:09:01.600 And so that happening, it was like, all right, we could deal with high taxes.

00:09:07.920 We could deal with the insanity of the Twin Cities.

00:09:11.120 All the, I mean, the summer of George started here, you know, started an hour plus.

00:09:16.680 We were watching all of that happen.

00:09:18.160 We can even deal with Walls' lockdowns and all the things he did during 2020, right?

00:09:24.840 Those are bad, but it was bad everywhere, pretty much.

00:09:28.380 I mean, your state.

00:09:28.980 Not Florida.

00:09:30.420 Your state is a little bit better.

00:09:33.340 But, you know, it was bad in many, many places.

00:09:36.720 So we're like, okay, we can, we can handle that.

00:09:38.700 We can stick out through a lot of things.

00:09:40.480 But then when they, when they say, all right, we're going to take your kids, right?

00:09:46.260 If, if, right, we're able to groom one of your kids into thinking that he's a girl, right?

00:09:51.740 We can just take them right out of your custody, right?

00:09:53.700 We, we saw that, that law passing and Walls, you know, celebrating it and his, right, lieutenant

00:09:59.720 governor.

00:10:00.300 I'm sure many of your, your listeners have seen the photos of, of Peggy Flanagan wearing like

00:10:06.320 the protect trans kids shirts.

00:10:08.060 And there's like this, like the graphic tee with a knife on it.

00:10:11.640 And it's like, what's that knife for?

00:10:13.380 Uh, right.

00:10:14.260 They just, and, and then surrounded by all of these like free murdering the parents all

00:10:19.460 around it for.

00:10:20.180 Yeah.

00:10:20.460 Yeah. 1.00

00:10:20.660 It's for murdering the parents and cutting off body parts of the kids. 1.00

00:10:23.460 Right. 1.00

00:10:23.900 Yeah.

00:10:24.600 Yeah.

00:10:25.020 And, and it's like, we can't, we can't live in an environment, right?

00:10:29.560 Where the, the legal apparatus exists for our children to be taken.

00:10:33.460 Like, I don't think that any of my kids are ever going to go down that road, but of course,

00:10:37.520 like nobody thinks that their kids are exactly road.

00:10:41.100 And, and so I don't want to be in a place where they can just take your kids, right?

00:10:45.060 They're gone.

00:10:45.660 Uh, because it, it, it, it, it's just utterly monstrous.

00:10:50.560 I mean, this is, this is the kind of stuff that you, you think of in the deepest, darkest

00:10:55.400 totalitarian systems, right?

00:10:57.080 I mean, I, I've read a lot about the Soviet union and, and Mao's China and North Korea

00:11:02.420 and, and, and things, things like that, places like that.

00:11:05.800 And it's like, I don't even know if they did stuff like that there where they just take

00:11:09.180 your kid.

00:11:09.640 Like they didn't, they didn't have transgenderism in those places where they take your kids and 1.00

00:11:13.520 trans them. 0.85

00:11:14.500 Right.

00:11:14.980 Uh, it's in many ways, even worse than those monstrosities.

00:11:18.160 And so we're like, we have to, we have to leave this place.

00:11:21.800 And we, and, and all of it is not like, I'm not somebody who's like, oh, well, let's pick

00:11:27.020 up a leave.

00:11:27.640 And, and this is what everybody does.

00:11:29.320 Let's get a job somewhere else, leave the state.

00:11:31.160 Right.

00:11:31.640 We have deep roots in this place.

00:11:33.680 It's not, um, a decision that, that we make lightly at all.

00:11:38.940 We, we wanted to stay here.

00:11:41.200 We wanted to stay, our children to stay here and our grandchildren to stay here and be part

00:11:44.600 of, be part of the community that, that our family has been part of.

00:11:48.160 For, for over a century.

00:11:50.180 And, and it's simply not possible for us to in, in good conscience or, uh, any, any reasonable

00:11:58.320 sense of prudence to ever think that we could do that.

00:12:02.520 So let's start in 2020, because this is something that was really critical for my political

00:12:09.400 awakening, along with so many other people, the combination of obviously the lockdowns

00:12:15.240 and then the riots and then the election and every, everything that was stacked on top

00:12:20.000 of each other was just too, it's too much all at once really showing you that the system

00:12:24.940 is fundamentally broken and that you're not protected and that the constitution is not

00:12:30.140 going to protect your rights.

00:12:31.700 These kinds of things.

00:12:33.020 What was it like in that moment of going from the lockdowns and then being at the ground zero

00:12:37.880 with the summer of Floyd, Hey, what, what was the feeling like being so close to the epicenter

00:12:42.580 as somebody who's not on the left?

00:12:45.220 Yeah, I, it was, it was surreal, honestly.

00:12:47.900 I mean, it was like, it was like living in a, in a nightmare or a bad dream or, or like

00:12:54.860 being in the, in a movie, right.

00:12:57.440 Where we couldn't, we couldn't really leave our house other than to go like grocery shopping.

00:13:04.140 Uh, you couldn't, you, if, and, and to leave your house, you had to wear a mask everywhere

00:13:08.500 and you had to, you couldn't, you couldn't meet with your friends.

00:13:12.300 Like you couldn't have a party in your backyard.

00:13:14.840 You couldn't do anything.

00:13:16.640 Um, but if you are, you know, protesting white supremacy and racial injustice, well, not only 0.87

00:13:24.840 can you go out without a mask and gather by the thousands, you could, uh, burn down a police 0.92

00:13:30.800 precinct and loot a target and burn down entire blocks of the city. 0.54

00:13:36.320 And, and we're watching it and it's like the, and the police are largely doing nothing.

00:13:41.120 Obviously they're outmanned, uh, and overpowered, uh, the governor.

00:13:45.440 I mean, the thing that really bothered a lot of people is at the very first night, you know,

00:13:50.500 we're watching on, on social media, like live streams of that, that first target being,

00:13:55.660 being looted and all of these people liberating TVs, uh, from racial injustice.

00:14:01.900 That's right.

00:14:03.020 And, uh, and then the things on fire and, and I'm thinking like, all right, any normal place

00:14:10.440 would have, the governor would immediately call up the national guard, like that minute

00:14:15.740 and say like, this is going to be bad.

00:14:17.340 We need to, we need to restore order in this place.

00:14:20.860 And he wouldn't do it.

00:14:23.100 And then he blamed the, uh, mayor of Minneapolis, Jacob Frey, who himself is very far left.

00:14:31.980 Right.

00:14:32.300 Like, I mean, people probably remember from that, that summer, right.

00:14:35.680 When they had Floyd's funeral and this guy is like histrionically weeping, right.

00:14:39.720 Just like walls, his son at the DNC, like in front of George Floyd's golden casket, just

00:14:44.200 like shaking a convulsing in front of it.

00:14:46.400 Right.

00:14:46.600 This is the performative theater kid thing.

00:14:49.800 Um, and, and even fry was, was begging the governor to mobilize the national guard.

00:14:57.760 He wouldn't do it.

00:14:58.360 And he blamed him and said, oh, you didn't feel the right paperwork.

00:15:00.380 And it took him days of writing before he finally called in the national guard.

00:15:05.400 And then when, um, a journalist, um, confronted Tim walls, which rarely happens in this state,

00:15:12.960 right.

00:15:13.220 The star tribune and all the WCCO and all the news stations and everything totally in

00:15:17.340 his pocket, right.

00:15:18.500 He, he could do no wrong.

00:15:20.080 He's the wonderful, he's don't, you know, he's the guy that gave all the school children

00:15:23.820 free lunch, right.

00:15:25.460 That's all they talked about with him, right.

00:15:27.400 A journalist actually confronted him and say, Hey, why don't you call up the national guard?

00:15:30.820 He's like, well, what are 19 year old cooks going to be able to do?

00:15:35.680 Right.

00:15:36.020 That's, that's what he said, like verbatim, right.

00:15:38.260 He didn't, he didn't care at all.

00:15:39.960 And, and again, this is the guy who like touts his national guard service and how he's,

00:15:44.600 how he's this, uh, this wonderful warrior and veteran, right.

00:15:48.760 Uh, which everyone's got deployed.

00:15:50.840 Right.

00:15:51.040 Yeah.

00:15:51.280 Yeah, yeah, exactly.

00:15:52.900 And, um, and he, he says, oh, what, what good are 19 year old cooks going to do?

00:15:57.520 Right.

00:15:57.860 And so he refused to send out the national guard.

00:16:00.740 His daughter, right.

00:16:02.340 Uh, hope, uh, was tweeting out, right.

00:16:05.680 The deployments of the national guard.

00:16:07.340 Once he did saying, all right, don't go, everybody who was out there writing, don't

00:16:11.260 go over here and don't go over there because you'll get arrested if you go here or there.

00:16:15.460 So do your writing and burning somewhere else, right.

00:16:19.100 She's from the governor's mansion coordinating with her dad, right.

00:16:22.760 The riots and walls, his wife was interviewed during this.

00:16:25.800 Like, yeah, we left the windows open.

00:16:27.080 Cause we wanted to smell, right.

00:16:29.340 This, the smell of burning, you know, burning buildings and everything else, because that's

00:16:33.080 what's, that smelled like justice.

00:16:34.840 Sorry.

00:16:35.440 Sorry to, sorry to stop you there.

00:16:36.880 But you, you said something that I think is important that not enough people will stop

00:16:42.300 and meditate on the implications of, uh, can you, can you say that again, he was, he was

00:16:47.100 functionally with his daughter on social media live coordinating the riots.

00:16:53.200 Yeah.

00:16:53.700 By letting them know where not to go.

00:16:56.020 Yeah.

00:16:56.620 Yeah.

00:16:56.800 She was, she was telling them about all, and this is stuff that it's like not public knowledge,

00:17:01.180 right?

00:17:02.040 She's, she is telling them where, where not to go, uh, during the right.

00:17:06.400 I mean, people have screenshots of all of it.

00:17:07.860 Cause they're long since been deleted.

00:17:09.600 Uh, but like almost certainly that's a criminal act.

00:17:13.420 So, so to be clear, that means that Kamala Harris actively bailed out the people responsible

00:17:22.960 for this riot.

00:17:23.760 She actually raised money and actively bailed out, uh, violent, uh, people who are capable

00:17:29.800 of killing, burning, looting during the whole of this.

00:17:33.040 And her vice president was basically working with his daughter live to coordinate these riots. 0.89

00:17:38.840 This is a ticket of riots.

00:17:41.160 The democratic party literally ordering its foot troops and bailing its foot troops out

00:17:46.100 of jail to burn your community, to loot your community, to endanger the lives of people 0.88

00:17:52.580 in your community.

00:17:53.900 This is who they're holding up for their presidential ticket.

00:17:57.300 Yeah.

00:17:58.260 Yeah.

00:17:58.580 And, and meanwhile, they, even though obviously, right.

00:18:02.780 Donald Trump didn't say, all right, everybody go inside the Capitol and go burn it down and

00:18:06.660 looted and attack congressmen, he never said anything like that whatsoever.

00:18:10.560 Uh, they, they project all of the things they actually did during the summer of 2020 onto

00:18:16.280 him.

00:18:17.160 Right.

00:18:17.660 Like when, when they literally are guilty of, of literal insurrection in our country.

00:18:23.360 Right.

00:18:24.180 And, and facilitating it, promoting it, bailing people out of jail for it.

00:18:28.380 Right.

00:18:29.380 Yet then they turned around and say like, no, actually that's what you guys do.

00:18:32.860 Right.

00:18:33.160 It's, it's, it's so sick. 0.80

00:18:35.160 It's so demented.

00:18:36.220 And, uh, yeah, like, um, uh, one of the guys in the chat, you know, gray duck, I just, I'm

00:18:41.140 looking at your chat here.

00:18:42.280 You know, he brings up a good point, um, about amending the human rights act in the state

00:18:47.260 of Minnesota.

00:18:47.500 This is something that I also did right away.

00:18:49.500 Adding gender identity is a protected category, right.

00:18:52.720 Without religious, religious exemption.

00:18:54.720 So like if you have a Christian school and you say, Hey, we're, we don't hire transgender 1.00

00:18:59.540 people, right.

00:19:00.380 We have a, uh, a moral code and so forth against that.

00:19:03.800 That's we, that's doesn't fit our values.

00:19:07.060 Uh, you can be sued and forced to hire, you know, gays, lesbians, transgender people at 1.00

00:19:14.200 your school.

00:19:15.400 And, and within that bill, this is the other thing, uh, uh, regarding that bill, they tried

00:19:19.620 to make pedophilia a protected class and it got squashed in committee, right.

00:19:24.780 They attempted to make it protected and, and walls was going to sign it like that.

00:19:29.000 This is, this is how these people think, right. 0.93

00:19:31.380 It's so sick. 0.96

00:19:32.900 Well, it's so twisted. 0.89

00:19:33.780 It's not rocket science.

00:19:34.900 Uh, yeah.

00:19:35.660 Yeah.

00:19:36.180 Yeah.

00:19:36.660 As they say, yeah, yeah.

00:19:38.380 Tap the sign.

00:19:39.160 Right.

00:19:39.560 Exactly.

00:19:40.140 Um, it is it, and, and walls himself, right.

00:19:44.420 I mean, I like personally have a fairly long history, uh, with him.

00:19:48.340 Uh, he was, he became our Congressman when I was in college.

00:19:52.260 I went to college in Minnesota state Mankato, where he is, where he is from, or he's from

00:19:58.780 Mankato as a teacher at Mankato West and was running for Congress while I was in college.

00:20:03.520 And I was involved in, in, you know, GOP politics and the college Republicans and things like

00:20:08.160 that.

00:20:08.380 And I remember, I remember encountering him, right.

00:20:11.300 Several times I would, once he was in office, I would go to his, you know, town halls that

00:20:16.120 he would have in, uh, in Mankato and especially when Obamacare was being trotted out, right.

00:20:25.080 He was, um, one of Obama's strongest soldiers for Obamacare, right.

00:20:30.400 A pun intended that he, um, he held a town hall meeting at the Mankato East high school

00:20:37.340 auditorium that fit maybe a few thousand people.

00:20:40.700 And the place was packed.

00:20:41.580 It was like going to a Trump rally, right.

00:20:43.520 It's what it felt like.

00:20:44.360 I mean, we stood in line to go to that town hall meeting, uh, for hours, right.

00:20:49.520 Three, four hours to get, just to get in.

00:20:52.060 And when we get in there, um, all the front seats and everything, like hundreds of seats

00:20:57.160 in the front are already taken by, by union employees, nurses, union employees, public union,

00:21:04.340 you know, SEIU employees, public union, uh, that they bust in from the twin cities out of our district

00:21:09.760 to come like fill, to make it look like there were two sides because every single person that went to

00:21:15.180 this was there because they're irate about Obamacare being passed.

00:21:19.500 So he was going to have, you know, 3000 people in that auditorium, you know, screaming at him

00:21:24.700 for wanting to pass this.

00:21:26.320 And he goes up there and he, he talks to us.

00:21:28.360 He brings, or he brings in the president of Blue Cross Blue Shield, Minnesota to try to sell

00:21:33.360 it to us saying like, Oh, see, I have a, I have an insurance guy here with me.

00:21:37.420 And he's, you know, you guys, you Republicans like guys like this, don't you?

00:21:41.220 And meanwhile, we all know, right.

00:21:43.740 He's going to benefit from this just as much as anybody else is.

00:21:47.160 Right.

00:21:47.740 And, and he, he lies through his teeth saying, no, your premiums aren't going to go up.

00:21:52.560 Right.

00:21:52.940 This is going to be revenue neutral.

00:21:54.580 So your tech, it's not going to be paid for with your taxes.

00:21:57.400 This is just providing insurance coverage for everybody.

00:21:59.900 And everything's, everything's going to be normal.

00:22:01.460 Everything's going to be fine. 1.00

00:22:02.320 You guys are crazy. 0.97

00:22:03.200 For wanting to, to oppose this. 0.99

00:22:05.560 And he's lying through his teeth.

00:22:07.380 We knew exactly what it was.

00:22:09.480 Everyone knew exactly what it was.

00:22:10.920 All of the, and all of the people that got to speak, most of them were already like preselected

00:22:16.360 among all these union people that, that he bust in from the twin cities out of our district.

00:22:21.600 And it was all sham.

00:22:23.080 And so, right.

00:22:23.980 We saw that.

00:22:24.700 And it was like, that, that was like his entire political career in, in a microcosm, right?

00:22:32.360 It's all fake.

00:22:33.480 It's not real.

00:22:34.880 It is, it is just this, um, astroturfed thing, all of it.

00:22:40.620 And, and the first district of Minnesota traditionally was always Republican and, uh, he barely got

00:22:46.620 in, in, in, in 2000, uh, 2006.

00:22:50.240 And, and from that point on, like he was an incumbent, he kept winning all the time and

00:22:54.680 was a solid vote for Obama.

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00:23:28.260 Right.

00:23:28.520 And he was very, very, very far left, right.

00:23:31.060 From, from the get go.

00:23:32.460 Right.

00:23:32.640 And he, he wanted to do all, all of this crazy stuff, always voted for all of it.

00:23:36.460 But then, then he does all these photo ops, right.

00:23:39.120 He goes hunting and things like that.

00:23:40.840 Like, see, I love guns.

00:23:42.680 That's why I'm going to try to take away all of your guns.

00:23:44.880 Right.

00:23:45.120 I'm a hunter too.

00:23:46.200 Let's talk about that for a second, because this has been the most cringe part of this.

00:23:50.100 Right.

00:23:50.380 So obviously you're running the first black female, or I guess kind of Jamaican and Indian

00:23:56.640 female, but whatever. 1.00

00:23:57.940 And I'll let, I'll let the black community argue over whether or not that counts.

00:24:01.640 Um, but, but you have her running. 1.00

00:24:03.960 And so obviously to, to, you don't want to spook all of the white guys in the democratic

00:24:09.040 party.

00:24:09.380 There's still a few of them left somehow.

00:24:10.980 Yeah.

00:24:11.480 Um, and, uh, so you gotta put, you gotta put somebody up there to kind of backstop that.

00:24:16.920 And so you're, you're going to put like Tim walls in there and the way they're trying

00:24:20.920 to portray this guy is, and there there's literally, I think it was, there was a commentator.

00:24:26.220 I believe it was on MSNBC who actually just said this out loud.

00:24:29.120 Tim walls is there to let everybody know that it's okay for a black woman to be your 0.88

00:24:33.260 boss. 0.90

00:24:33.960 Right.

00:24:34.400 Like specifically said, like the whole reason Tim walls is there is we want to watch you

00:24:40.680 and we want to watch a white man play second fiddle.

00:24:43.160 And that's the thing you need to be prepared for.

00:24:45.540 Like we're doing this so you can learn your place in the new order of things like, oh,

00:24:49.860 wow.

00:24:50.100 Okay.

00:24:50.340 Well that's, uh, on the nose.

00:24:52.200 Uh, but you know, you have, uh, the, the, the forced camo hat and, and, you know, literally

00:24:57.560 members of the Democrat party being like, see, he has a camo hat.

00:25:01.280 And so therefore we don't hate white people.

00:25:03.760 Right.

00:25:04.060 Like we don't hate the, we don't hate the rural pores because there's a camo hat somewhere 0.97

00:25:08.620 in our, I think there, there was an entire, I'm trying to remember if it's like a, a Vox

00:25:13.460 article or, you know, article being like, it's white people.

00:25:16.800 It's okay.

00:25:17.520 Tim walls owns a, owns a camo hat.

00:25:19.780 And so that's fine.

00:25:20.600 What do you think about this, this, this kind of, uh, astroturfing of him as a hunter

00:25:25.380 and outdoorsman, you know, he's a basketball coach.

00:25:28.860 He's, he's just one of the guys that would flip burgers in the backyard, but also would

00:25:32.960 castrate your child, you know?

00:25:34.660 Yeah. 0.93

00:25:35.000 Yeah.

00:25:35.260 Yeah, exactly.

00:25:35.960 Like it is, it is so disingenuous and so fake.

00:25:40.200 And of course, like anybody who actually hunts, right.

00:25:44.420 Like the pictures of him pheasant hunting, right.

00:25:46.760 I, I go pheasant hunting.

00:25:48.760 I know, I know what, like, it actually looks like for one, like he's carrying his, the

00:25:52.900 shotgun he's carrying is like $4,000 it's made for trap shooting.

00:25:57.460 It's, it's way too heavy to carry out in a field where you're going to go walk for like

00:26:00.740 10 miles through high grass, right?

00:26:02.700 That's heavy.

00:26:03.340 You don't want to do that.

00:26:04.100 You want the lightest thing possible.

00:26:05.900 Every part of his hunting gear looks like it was just bought off the shelf, right?

00:26:10.440 It's still got all the wrinkles and everything, the folds in it.

00:26:12.840 Uh, I mean, it looks like the, uh, or if you think of like the Charlottesville

00:26:16.680 fed Nazi with the folded flag, it looks right. 0.92

00:26:20.760 It looks just like that.

00:26:21.800 Right.

00:26:22.200 Or he's like a, he's like a, he's like a PX ranger, right?

00:26:25.780 Like shows up to the, to the, uh, the, the army unit with all the, uh, all the high speed

00:26:30.740 stuff he bought off the shelf, you know, he's the most well-equipped guy there.

00:26:35.300 Exactly.

00:26:35.860 Exactly.

00:26:36.300 So it's so, so fake.

00:26:38.500 And, and, and, and part of it too, it's like, so anyone, anyone in this world like gets

00:26:44.460 that this guy's not real at all.

00:26:46.700 Uh, what it does though, is it like reassures, especially like the, the liberal white woman,

00:26:51.980 right?

00:26:52.660 Who, um, who will post on Facebook or see, see, he's a hunter.

00:26:58.900 You guys should like it.

00:26:59.780 That gives them reassurance more than anything else.

00:27:02.440 Right.

00:27:02.900 The cat, that's what the camo hat does is see, he, he likes rural white people. 0.73

00:27:07.700 He's got a camo hat, right?

00:27:09.120 That, and it, but it doesn't really actually move the needle for anybody.

00:27:12.500 Like not a single, I don't think there's a single person in America that was like, you

00:27:17.160 know, I was going to vote for Trump.

00:27:18.380 I really liked that Trump guy, but man, have you seen this camo hat that Tim Walls has?

00:27:24.280 Like, he's just like me, man.

00:27:26.120 Yeah.

00:27:26.380 Yeah.

00:27:26.940 Yeah.

00:27:27.300 Yeah, exactly.

00:27:28.440 Forget that billionaire.

00:27:29.920 I want, I want the camo hat white, white dudes for Harris, right?

00:27:33.820 That whole, uh, that whole, uh, Skype call he's, he's just the physical embodiment of

00:27:38.000 that mentality, but yeah, I mean, it also like you, you do have a lot of these guys,

00:27:43.460 um, unfortunately who are like the Yellowstone meme, you know, Kevin Costner sitting in the

00:27:48.520 back of a truck, like it reinforces them as well.

00:27:51.260 See, he's one of us.

00:27:52.220 He's, he's a solid guy and, and I'm going to vote for him, but yeah, I don't care if 0.99

00:27:57.180 he's going to, you know, cut the genitals off of children or, or, you know, tax unrealized 0.99

00:28:03.920 capital gains, right? 0.99

00:28:05.340 He's got a camo hat, right?

00:28:07.500 I mean, you do have people that think that way, uh, but none of those people were going

00:28:10.940 to vote for Trump anyway, either.

00:28:12.900 Right.

00:28:13.060 So it, it's, it's, it's all just this, uh, totally fake thing.

00:28:17.020 I mean, just looking at like the DNC and all of it, it was, it, it would, I, I've never seen

00:28:22.700 anything so like palpably not real.

00:28:27.060 Right.

00:28:27.680 I mean, obviously just as cringy as all get out, but every part of it is just like this

00:28:33.100 carefully, carefully orchestrated cringe fest where they're not, they, they didn't say

00:28:38.680 anything of, of substance whatsoever the entire time about any of their policies.

00:28:44.800 He's any, it's just like Trump is really bad and we're the good guys.

00:28:48.680 Like that's, that's their entire campaign.

00:28:51.040 And, and to be fair, that's a good campaign that that's actually what politics is.

00:28:56.100 That's the only one they could run.

00:28:57.460 Right.

00:28:57.960 And it's the right one for them to run.

00:28:59.480 Yeah.

00:29:00.120 Yeah.

00:29:00.360 If I were them, I'd be doing the same thing.

00:29:01.880 And, and, and it's like, no.

00:29:04.600 And, and, and so part of it, like you look at the logic of why they select walls.

00:29:08.260 I mean, there's, I think there's a few factors.

00:29:10.100 One is he, it was a loyal, um, Obama guy, his entire tenure in Congress.

00:29:18.240 Uh, he's rewarded, uh, by the democratic party with, um, uh, the governor's mansion in Minnesota.

00:29:25.380 Um, and, and there, what does he do?

00:29:28.760 Right.

00:29:29.000 He dutifully imposes the lockdowns and everything else, uh, and helps to facilitate the riots.

00:29:36.860 Right.

00:29:37.360 I mean, these, we, when we think about the BLM riots, right.

00:29:40.400 I don't think anyone, you know, listening to, to your stream is like, yep, those are totally

00:29:46.240 organic and real.

00:29:47.580 Right.

00:29:48.060 Those are, we're fake too.

00:29:49.280 Like they're, they're facilitated people.

00:29:51.460 Right.

00:29:52.020 Helps make those happen.

00:29:53.360 Like there were all these NGOs that operate in Minnesota, right.

00:29:56.580 In Minnesota, we had, I believe it is in, in 2018, uh, around Christmas time, there was

00:30:02.280 a, there was a black guy who got shot by the cops and, uh, Flander Castile, I think his

00:30:07.780 name was, and he, uh, they, they had BLM chapters and community organizers and all this kind of

00:30:16.020 stuff, uh, blocking freeways, uh, going, going to the mall of America and disrupting like

00:30:22.420 Christmas stuff there and, and doing all these massive protests.

00:30:26.540 And, and that was like the first iteration of this, where it was like the dry run for

00:30:32.700 what they wanted to do eventually, uh, when they could really kick off the powder keg.

00:30:37.100 And, and so Minnesota has always had, it's always kind of been ground zero for a lot of

00:30:42.920 these things.

00:30:43.620 Right.

00:30:43.940 Uh, and like, if you're familiar with, uh, city bureaucrat on Twitter, right.

00:30:48.480 His, uh, or X now, right.

00:30:50.300 Uh, his thing, I think he says often is that Minnesota is America's Ukraine and he's, he's

00:30:58.760 absolutely right. 0.60

00:30:59.500 Like this is, uh, the, uh, the NGOs go to test their, uh, their crazy psyops.

00:31:05.600 Yeah.

00:31:06.080 A hundred percent true.

00:31:07.300 Like, and it, it dates back to like the early nineties when they started, uh, resettling

00:31:12.940 Somalis in, in Minnesota.

00:31:15.240 Uh, I remember being even in rural Minnesota, I remember being in like seventh grade and

00:31:19.380 all of a sudden there's this, uh, kid named Muhammad in my class and his sister wore a

00:31:25.020 scarf on her head.

00:31:25.840 And I thought that's kind of weird.

00:31:26.840 Whereas they're a little bit different.

00:31:28.880 And then the next year there's like dozens of them in my small rural town and, uh, they're

00:31:35.020 everywhere, right.

00:31:36.140 And this, this is what happened in Minnesota throughout the late nineties into the two

00:31:39.480 thousands.

00:31:39.900 This is where Ilhan Omar came from.

00:31:41.660 They've resettled all of the, all of the refugees from, from Somalia in, in Minnesota at first.

00:31:47.840 Now they're in many other States.

00:31:49.760 And they all just became Minnesotans, right? 0.79

00:31:51.620 Like they're out, they're just kind of, they, they, they love Lunefisk. 1.00

00:31:55.520 Yeah.

00:31:56.040 Yeah.

00:31:56.360 They're, they're going to the American Legion playing pole tabs, right. 1.00

00:31:59.600 You know, riding, riding their snowmobiles, right.

00:32:01.640 There's immediate integration.

00:32:03.140 No, no speed bump.

00:32:04.760 Yeah, exactly.

00:32:06.720 Exactly.

00:32:07.220 But within, yeah, within the twin cities, I mean, there's a tremendous amount of political

00:32:11.480 organizing and activism.

00:32:13.340 Uh, like, yeah, somebody in the chat, you know, brought up Will Stancil, right.

00:32:16.640 That's where this guy's from.

00:32:17.460 I mean, he's part and parcel of like what, what is going on in, in our state is a lot of

00:32:25.240 NGO money has been spent here.

00:32:26.520 Even, um, with the, uh, the Hennepin County prosecutor, Mary Moriarty, right.

00:32:32.240 Is, uh, is one of these Soros prosecutors where she's letting people out of, out of 1.00

00:32:37.180 jail or suspending their sentence sentences or plea, you know, giving plea bargains that

00:32:41.340 are insane, right.

00:32:42.640 For very serious crimes, just not, not prosecuting crime whatsoever.

00:32:47.200 And that's by design, it's purposeful. 0.95

00:32:49.540 It's not like, Oh, there was really dumb. 0.99

00:32:51.200 These liberals, right. 0.98

00:32:52.060 It's like, no, this is on purpose.

00:32:53.220 They want to do these things.

00:32:54.980 And, and so, yeah.

00:32:57.060 Well, and you, and you're, you, the, the demographic, the demographic transformation of your state

00:33:01.240 was so severe that they literally changed the flag to, to, to a flag that was more like

00:33:06.820 somebody's flag, right.

00:33:08.040 Yeah.

00:33:08.440 Yeah.

00:33:09.000 Yeah.

00:33:09.380 Right.

00:33:09.580 Like right in the back.

00:33:10.260 I mean, there's a reason I have it up in the office is, um, is because right.

00:33:15.500 They, they just ripped down the hair. 1.00

00:33:16.940 And that's part of, part of it too.

00:33:18.360 Like during the Floyd riots, they went to, um, our Capitol, obviously in Minnesota, you

00:33:23.620 don't have any Confederate monuments here.

00:33:26.520 Um, but what we, the next best thing was we had in front of the state Capitol, uh, a

00:33:34.520 statue of Christopher Columbus.

00:33:36.520 And so what did they do?

00:33:37.820 A bunch of BLM guys came and they tore that thing down and right.

00:33:42.380 The Capitol police and the St.

00:33:45.040 Paul police just stood there and watched them just watch me.

00:33:47.100 They could have cuffed every single one of them and stopped them.

00:33:50.140 Uh, and Tim walls basically said, no, this is good.

00:33:52.500 This is great.

00:33:53.260 Um, and you know, he's, he's posted on social media several times about how we need to change

00:34:02.020 Columbus day to indigenous people's day. 0.99

00:34:05.040 And he, uh, he talks about like in Mankato where I went to college, where he's, um, he's

00:34:10.560 adopted hometown where he's from.

00:34:12.020 This is the site of, uh, you know, the mass execution of 38, uh, Sioux warriors after the

00:34:18.820 Dakota uprising.

00:34:19.600 And, and every year Mankato is also very liberal town.

00:34:23.000 Uh, college town, like there's all this weeping and gnashing of teeth that they have this

00:34:27.240 great, uh, celebration of the horrible injustice that was done to these Dakota Indians.

00:34:32.000 And nobody has any idea that, well, actually those 38 Dakota, they're guilty of murdering 1.00

00:34:40.080 children and raping, you know, mass gang raping women. 1.00

00:34:43.460 And that's why they were executed. 0.99

00:34:44.740 They didn't write in the, in the liberal mind and Tim walls, his mind. 0.98

00:34:48.000 And, and it, they think that, oh, they, you know, these horrible white people just went 0.98

00:34:53.900 and rounded up a bunch of Indians and hung them for no reason at all. 0.99

00:34:57.200 Just, just picking some apples off a tree one day.

00:34:59.880 And then yeah.

00:35:00.880 Yeah.

00:35:01.880 And boom. 0.96

00:35:02.880 Yeah.

00:35:03.880 Yeah, exactly.

00:35:04.880 And, and, and so he, he celebrated right.

00:35:07.880 Columbus is statue of being torn down in Minnesota because well, don't you know, Columbus is responsible

00:35:12.880 for the mass genocide of the native Americans.

00:35:15.880 And, and all of it is they hate our history, our heritage.

00:35:19.880 The reason they, they got rid of this flag is because right on it is pictured, um, uh,

00:35:26.800 an American Indian riding horse going West.

00:35:30.120 And part of the symbolism is right.

00:35:32.460 When Minnesota was settled, right.

00:35:34.300 That's what happened.

00:35:35.080 They all went to Dakota and out of Minnesota.

00:35:37.860 That's where all the reservations, most of them ended up being.

00:35:41.300 And so this is this horrible, terrible injustice. 0.62

00:35:44.620 That white people came in and settled Minnesota and stole it from the American Indians. 0.99

00:35:51.460 And so what are we going to do?

00:35:53.080 We're going to replace that flag, which is representative of the history of Minnesota,

00:36:00.280 uh, with a flag that looks eerily similar to all of the regional and national flags of Somalia.

00:36:08.860 Right.

00:36:09.440 Just coincidental.

00:36:10.040 And no, oh, it would purely happenstance.

00:36:12.600 Totally coincidental.

00:36:14.040 At random.

00:36:14.620 Yeah.

00:36:14.980 Yeah, yeah, exactly.

00:36:16.620 And they, they, they deny it.

00:36:18.100 They constantly deny it.

00:36:19.360 It's like, it has nothing to do with Somalia.

00:36:20.500 What are you talking? 0.96

00:36:20.840 You're some crazy right-wing tinfoil hack conspiracy theorist. 0.98

00:36:23.940 And it's like, dude, it's, it's light blue with a star on it. 0.94

00:36:27.440 Just like the flag of Somalia.

00:36:29.240 The current project in Florida is to move all of Haiti here. 0.91

00:36:33.080 Um, so that's an exciting thing, uh, that we're, we're getting to enjoy as well.

00:36:36.840 So, uh, hopefully we don't, we don't change the flag, but, uh, but I, I, so let's, let's talk

00:36:43.520 a little bit more about, uh, Minnesota as, um, I, I guess we call it a sanctuary, uh, state

00:36:51.340 for, uh, for childhood transition, uh, because people hear this and they think it's overblown.

00:36:57.640 You know, they think, oh, no, one's really doing this.

00:37:00.540 No, one's really applying these laws, but there are already multiple, uh, instances.

00:37:05.900 You know, we just had a story out of Washington DC, uh, where, uh, and so many of these children,

00:37:10.840 as you pointed out in your post are, um, autistic or somewhere on the spectrum.

00:37:16.240 They're not fully capable.

00:37:18.220 They're, they're not completely comfortable in their skin in the first place.

00:37:21.540 And I've had a number of friends in my real life on this track.

00:37:25.620 You know, I knew a lot of, you know, people who are on the spectrum and a couple of them,

00:37:30.060 you know, they just couldn't handle it.

00:37:31.320 They didn't know how to handle social situations.

00:37:33.220 There's a lot of pressure, uh, and they, and they decided to go through this, this process,

00:37:37.720 you know, and, uh, it, you know, it's devastating to them, to their families.

00:37:42.100 You know, I know families that have been destroyed by this, uh, their children, you know, one,

00:37:46.660 one guy was a father of multiple boys, you know, and it's just, uh, it's a horrible thing.

00:37:51.120 It's, it's, it's a terrible thing.

00:37:52.660 And not only is, uh, obviously the democratic party encouraging this as a solution, uh, but

00:37:58.760 now you have a case in which, uh, the states are setting themselves up as basically just

00:38:04.340 mills for this, you know, come, come here and we'll make sure your parents can't come

00:38:08.140 get you. 0.91

00:38:08.480 We will steal your, you from your parents.

00:38:10.700 If you, you know, if your guidance counselor, when you're 12 decides, oh, I think you're 0.99

00:38:15.520 transgender, you can run here and we'll, we'll protect you from your parents. 1.00

00:38:19.840 And I've warned people about this, you know, this has been something I've told people over 0.99

00:38:23.120 again, civil rights law will be used to steal your children from you. 1.00

00:38:27.160 This will happen.

00:38:28.340 And, and, and now you have a state where this has been enabled.

00:38:31.900 And this is the reason that you find, you know, like you said, you dealt with the taxes

00:38:35.800 and you dealt with the crime and you dealt with all, all this other stuff.

00:38:39.660 But when you, this is the line, like this, you know, that you cannot live in a place

00:38:44.520 that is enabling this.

00:38:46.040 So can you explain kind of the constellation of legal, a couple of illegal procedures that

00:38:51.760 have been instantiated to make this a thing?

00:38:54.900 Yeah.

00:38:55.280 Yeah.

00:38:55.500 So, I mean, among them it is, they, they, I mean, the first law that they passed is, is

00:39:03.560 just in terms of like determining custody, right?

00:39:06.460 Having like initial custody proceedings.

00:39:08.560 And, and so they set it up for situations like there was the one in Texas and a few other

00:39:14.460 states where you have a one parent, a custody dispute between two parents being divorced.

00:39:21.880 And one of them takes the child and flees to Minnesota say to have them transitioned, right? 0.78

00:39:30.120 Even if the state where they had the original jurisdiction, if they're in Texas or Florida

00:39:35.540 or Tennessee or something like that, and that state says, all right, actually little Johnny

00:39:41.020 goes to dad, not to mom, right?

00:39:43.820 You need to bring him back, right?

00:39:45.380 This, this sets up the law essentially saying no, because, because they don't have access

00:39:51.820 to gender affirming care in the state that they're in, they can remain here in custody. 0.98

00:39:57.580 You'll either be granted to the parent or to the state.

00:40:00.320 And yeah, the, the, the scary phrase, the terrifying phrase in the, in the article you sent me to,

00:40:05.340 to, to kind of prep for this was temporary emergency jurisdiction, right?

00:40:10.640 Which is frightening phrases, anything, right?

00:40:13.640 Right.

00:40:13.920 Emergency.

00:40:14.580 Yeah.

00:40:14.900 What that means is we don't care what the law is.

00:40:18.300 If you're here, we have declared unilaterally that we have jurisdiction and there is nothing

00:40:24.360 you can do about it until all the important decisions have already been made.

00:40:28.600 So we're essentially just destroying any, any, uh, any, uh, process of law, any due process

00:40:35.120 is actually out the window or, or even like, like federal constitutional law, right?

00:40:41.240 Where, uh, things like this, where the original state had jurisdiction and right, if you flee

00:40:47.940 that state, right, they have to be extradited, right?

00:40:50.540 This is normally what has happened when there are custody disputes and a parent runs off with

00:40:54.060 one child is right.

00:40:55.700 That child's going to come back and the state, you know, a police or whatever, they'll, they'll

00:41:00.260 be the ones to facilitate that.

00:41:01.560 But in this case, right, they're just thumbing their nose at constitutional procedure.

00:41:05.980 I mean, it's something that, that should ultimately be resolved by the federal government, but right.

00:41:11.780 If Kamala Harris and Tim Walzwin, of course, it's not going to be, if anything, they'll, they'll

00:41:17.220 pass laws where they will make this the case throughout the entire country that, uh, then

00:41:23.460 they'll use, like you said earlier, like you use the civil rights act to do it right.

00:41:27.220 That, uh, transgenderism is a protected class, even in children. 0.51

00:41:31.220 And they have a right to gender affirming care.

00:41:33.340 They have a greater right than even what their parents wishes are.

00:41:35.740 Yeah.

00:41:36.160 Who are we, who are you protecting these rights against your parents?

00:41:39.960 Right?

00:41:40.220 Like that's the, the, the state has the right to enter your family at any time.

00:41:44.900 And this is, you know, there's a lot of reasons why they're pushing the transgender movement,

00:41:49.460 but this is the key one is it destroys the final barrier between state power and anyone.

00:41:56.020 Right?

00:41:56.260 Because if, if a parent doesn't have the right to protect their children from mutilation,

00:42:00.500 then the parent doesn't have rights at all.

00:42:02.420 It's over the state controls everything.

00:42:05.620 No, exactly.

00:42:07.060 And, and, and so it is, you know, it's a terrifying thing.

00:42:10.060 It's terrifying thing, you know, for, for our family, you know, personally, my, my eldest

00:42:14.340 son has autism.

00:42:16.500 And I I've known for several years now that, that the percentage of people who are transgender

00:42:24.420 and autistic is very, very high, right?

00:42:26.820 It's, it's extremely high and it, it, it makes you think, oh, I wonder if that particular category

00:42:33.460 of people is being targeted for grooming into this.

00:42:37.860 And, and it makes sense why, like, like you were saying earlier, right?

00:42:41.060 You have, you have, you know, children who are not comfortable socially.

00:42:44.660 They know that they, they don't fit in.

00:42:46.340 They know that they, um, are awkward and kind of weird.

00:42:50.180 And if they do this one little thing, then immediately they snap their fingers and now

00:42:54.900 everyone loves them, right?

00:42:56.500 Everyone loves them for, you know, implicitly.

00:42:59.060 And so it's a massive temptation.

00:43:01.620 Yeah.

00:43:02.180 Yeah.

00:43:02.500 As somebody who taught high school or, you know, taught public school, I saw this all

00:43:07.620 the time is, you know, kids who were very awkward, didn't know what to do.

00:43:11.380 We're getting picked on.

00:43:12.900 They know the minute that they declare themselves transgender, they have a magical bubble. 0.96

00:43:18.260 And that magical bubble stops all of the bullying, all of the picking, because I don't 0.90

00:43:22.340 care how nasty a kid is.

00:43:23.700 I don't care how mean they are.

00:43:24.980 I don't care how mean spirited they are. 0.81

00:43:26.740 They know that if they mess with a kid who's declared themselves trans, they're getting 0.95

00:43:32.260 completely thrown out. 0.51

00:43:33.620 They could beat someone to death in the parking lot and they would get in less trouble than 0.99

00:43:38.580 if they made fun of a trans person.

00:43:40.100 And I say that from direct experience, like I know kids who got in less trouble for literally

00:43:47.460 punching a vice principal than they would have for insulting a trans kid.

00:43:53.060 And so, so yeah, this is a, this is a magical shield that the awkward kid can place in front

00:43:58.820 of them.

00:43:59.060 And so the temptation is extremely high.

00:44:01.380 Like you said, if a kid is having a tough time, you know, and of course, you know, there

00:44:05.300 should be, the school should do a much better job of, you know, protecting those kids as they are.

00:44:11.060 But they know that this is the, this politically correct shield is the one that will actually

00:44:15.700 keep them from getting picked on.

00:44:17.300 And so they pick it up because it's the only thing that stops the harassment.

00:44:20.740 Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

00:44:22.820 And so, right, knowing that, and then knowing that, all right, if, if your child is tempted

00:44:29.380 in that way to, um, to have this, this magic bullet that they, they now are socially acceptable,

00:44:38.420 right?

00:44:38.740 If, if that's on the table, that's around, and then now the legal apparatus exists for

00:44:42.740 them to be taken out of your custody, right?

00:44:45.300 That, that is not any, anywhere that we could possibly live.

00:44:48.740 Like we can't do that.

00:44:50.020 We can't live in a, in a place like this where, where we're just rolling the dice every single

00:44:55.060 day, uh, that we live in this state that one day we'll get a knock on the door from CPS.

00:45:01.300 And, and they're, they're coming to get my kid.

00:45:04.020 Like, I, I don't, I don't want that.

00:45:05.780 My wife doesn't want that. 1.00

00:45:06.820 None of my, my son doesn't want that.

00:45:09.060 None of my family wants that, right?

00:45:10.900 We want to remain a family and, and, and I don't want to be put in a position where

00:45:16.260 then I would have to act in, in a way that a, that a father should.

00:45:20.180 And I was going to say as a father, yeah, yeah, I don't, I don't want to do that.

00:45:25.140 Right.

00:45:25.380 I don't want to go to prison, uh, defending my child, uh, if I can avoid it.

00:45:29.620 And the best way is to get out of this state.

00:45:33.300 Yeah, no, there's a higher law, um, obviously.

00:45:36.420 And, um, I, you know, that's all I'm going to say there.

00:45:38.820 Uh, but you know, the state does not own your child.

00:45:41.460 I don't care what's on a piece of paper, um, anywhere.

00:45:44.820 Um, and so, uh, that said, like you said, you, you've been forced into making a decision

00:45:50.020 that you didn't want to, but I think the decision that you have made is in the interest

00:45:54.340 of your family and importantly sets you up for, even though you have to, so, you know,

00:46:00.100 this community, uh, sets you up in a situation where in, in some ways it's a little bit of

00:46:06.020 a pioneering spirit, right?

00:46:07.300 Like we are, we are not going west anymore, but we have to reclaim territory.

00:46:12.340 In some ways, the frontier is internal.

00:46:14.900 Uh, once again, you know, America is a frontier nation.

00:46:17.780 It was defined by its, its, its movement west.

00:46:20.900 Uh, but, but now is a scenario in which we have the great sort, right?

00:46:25.780 And a lot of people like you have moved to states like mine or Texas or, you know, Tennessee

00:46:31.140 or others where they can, uh, build communities and concentrate with people of like, uh, mind.

00:46:38.660 And that is really critical because there was a massive shift for a long time.

00:46:43.060 Part of the deracinated, uh, you know, thing that, you know, everyone is, is, is transient

00:46:48.660 meant that people felt like they could live really in whatever state they wanted to.

00:46:51.860 And it didn't matter.

00:46:52.740 Ultimately they were all the same.

00:46:54.420 There wasn't a big difference.

00:46:55.700 It doesn't really matter if you live in Connecticut or Florida or California or Texas, it's all

00:47:00.580 just a liminal space.

00:47:01.940 You know, you're, you're, you, you teleport there through an airport and really outside

00:47:06.420 of a few cuisine changes and some climate, it's all, it's all pretty much the same.

00:47:10.500 But now we are recognizing that, uh, you have to be, uh, in a community that community manners

00:47:17.620 matters that moral vision matters that shared, uh, religion and, and, and, uh, tradition matter.

00:47:24.100 And that you have to concentrate physically.

00:47:26.500 It's not enough to just like, you know, fist bump each other online.

00:47:29.780 Every time you slam a good meme up on the, on the timeline, though, I appreciate those.

00:47:33.860 Uh, but, but that you really do have to be in a scenario where we are sorting back into

00:47:39.460 communities with shared values.

00:47:41.140 And that's why a lot of liberals are fleeing Florida because they said, they look at the,

00:47:46.100 the, the, the laws here and say, we can't live this way.

00:47:49.780 And you're looking at the laws in Minnesota and saying, we can't live this way.

00:47:53.300 And in, in, in a way without any declarations of, you know, secession or anything dramatic,

00:48:00.420 people are moving back into geographic blocks of social organization in a much more traditional

00:48:06.340 manner than they had before.

00:48:07.540 Yeah, yeah, exactly.

00:48:10.100 I mean, that, that is, that, that's another component to this too, is right.

00:48:14.580 We're not just fleeing, right.

00:48:16.180 As refugees to somewhere else that, that might be better. 1.00

00:48:19.700 Uh, we are going to somewhere where we can do, do the, the thing we wanted to do here,

00:48:26.580 quite frankly, where we can put down roots.

00:48:28.340 We can be part of a community.

00:48:29.540 We can be in a place where our children and grandchildren and great-grandchildren can also

00:48:36.420 live in close proximity to us as well.

00:48:40.180 Um, and, and to be around people that, that think the same way we do that, that have the

00:48:46.260 same patterns and habits of life that, that we do.

00:48:49.940 And so, yeah, that's what, that's what the plan is to, to have in, in Tennessee.

00:48:54.340 Um, I got, you know, connected to, uh, Ridge Runner and new founding to the guys there and

00:48:59.940 they're, they're building a town there.

00:49:02.420 Um, I, I wanted to be part of it, right.

00:49:06.100 I wanted to, uh, leave, uh, leave here and go, you know, plant a church in this town and,

00:49:13.220 and begin worshiping there and, and, and being part of, of life with, with all of my friends.

00:49:20.020 Like, I mean, many, many of my friends online, right.

00:49:22.500 The ones where we're in group chats and we, you know, share each other's memes and all

00:49:26.980 that kind of stuff.

00:49:27.620 We have like strong digital community.

00:49:30.580 Well, we want to have that in real life where instead of, you know, just laughing at each

00:49:36.180 other's jokes in a, in a group chat, right.

00:49:38.660 We, uh, we want to be able to laugh at each other's jokes, uh, on the, on our front porches.

00:49:43.540 Right.

00:49:43.860 And, uh, and the ability of, of these guys of, of Ridge Runner and new founding to, to facilitate

00:49:50.420 that, to, to make that kind of thing happen where now, now you can be with all of your friends

00:49:54.580 in real life and, and do life together, have, you know, all your kids grow up together and, and

00:50:00.180 they can be friends and, and, you know, build businesses in these places where, you know,

00:50:05.940 we can hire each other's kids and, and have, you know, provided income for their families

00:50:11.220 when they get older and they can all, we can all live in the same place.

00:50:14.260 They don't have to go off to some other part of the country either.

00:50:18.260 They could stay in, in the same environment.

00:50:20.420 We can have the kind of life that right.

00:50:23.700 A hundred years ago, everyone just had, that was the default position, right?

00:50:26.340 You grow up, you live in the same town as your parents, your grandparents, all your

00:50:29.380 cousins, and you have all the same friends you've always had.

00:50:33.780 And then your kids grow up in the same place and, and all of these things, all the traditions,

00:50:38.180 all these tiny little parts of life get passed down from generation to generation.

00:50:42.740 And it's, and it's beautiful, right?

00:50:45.140 It's a, it's, it's a wonderful way to live.

00:50:47.780 And unfortunately it takes a tremendous amount of effort, right?

00:50:52.260 To have, to have that once again, right?

00:50:54.420 The thing that everyone just took for granted, it just was the way everything was.

00:50:59.540 Even less than a hundred years ago.

00:51:01.540 Now you have to fight for it.

00:51:02.580 Now you have to, now you have to move across the country.

00:51:05.860 You have to go through great expense, right?

00:51:08.340 You might have to not take a job where you get a big promotion in order to stay in a particular

00:51:13.220 place, right?

00:51:14.180 All of those things, it takes sacrifice to do.

00:51:16.260 And, and yet, right.

00:51:18.580 I, I think those things are, are not only important for our own personal wellbeing, our family safety,

00:51:24.020 um, all, all of those things, but, but also, um, like for political purposes as well.

00:51:32.100 Like if you were able to take, you know, even a few hundred people that all think the same

00:51:36.340 way and have all the same, uh, ideas about, uh, right.

00:51:40.740 The common good and politics and so forth.

00:51:43.380 And right.

00:51:44.420 You, you, you could consolidate them in the same place, right?

00:51:47.460 You can exercise far, far more political power, even with a few hundred or a few thousand people

00:51:52.660 than you can on your own, widely dispersed across the entire country.

00:51:58.980 And, and so to be able to do that, like that, that it might be, I mean, maybe it sounds extreme

00:52:04.580 to say this, but it might be the difference between life and death for a lot of people in

00:52:07.860 the next 20, 30, 40 years.

00:52:10.260 Oh, absolutely.

00:52:11.060 And look, I get this all the time.

00:52:13.140 I hear this all the time from people, right?

00:52:14.820 What do we do?

00:52:16.340 Okay.

00:52:16.740 We've talked about everything online.

00:52:18.340 We've done all the theory, blah, blah, blah.

00:52:20.340 By the way, we have not done all the theory, but, uh, you know, we, you have to hear this

00:52:24.660 all the time.

00:52:25.620 You know what?

00:52:26.420 Okay.

00:52:26.660 But what are we going to do in real life?

00:52:28.020 What are we going to do in real life?

00:52:29.380 And what they want to hear is, well, you just elect Trump and that fixes everything.

00:52:33.620 Or maybe, oh, well, you know, dress up as a storm trooper, hang out with some feds,

00:52:37.700 you know, get it, give MSNBC some ammunition, right?

00:52:40.900 Like that's what they want to hear.

00:52:42.660 Here's the real answer to that question is what you are talking about is creating the

00:52:48.500 communities building and organizing, right?

00:52:51.860 In every sense of the word, like you said, the politics comes, but the politics comes

00:52:57.540 not because you started with, oh, well, we're, we're making a politics club.

00:53:02.580 You're doing life together.

00:53:03.860 You're creating a shared community with shared values, moral vision, traditions,

00:53:09.060 heritages, these things build on top of each other.

00:53:11.540 And then the politics emerges from that way of being from that love.

00:53:16.180 And because it's concentrated, because it is organic, because it has deep ties to a place

00:53:22.660 and a people, it is far more effective.

00:53:25.460 And then if something goes sideways, if things get real, you're still organized.

00:53:31.220 You still built those connections.

00:53:32.660 You still built those bonds.

00:53:33.860 You still built that level of autonomy.

00:53:36.180 And I think the, the, the thing that's going to matter in the future is going to be the

00:53:41.460 willingness of people to build outside of the system.

00:53:45.220 You know, I say this all the time, but I'm going to give the speech one more time,

00:53:48.340 just because I think it's important for people to hear.

00:53:50.180 You know, my buddy Ernst is in conscious caracal on Twitter.

00:53:54.500 He's in South Africa.

00:53:55.860 Obviously he's part of the solidarity movement there, the Afrikaners.

00:54:00.580 And they have to do everything themselves because the government hates them because they,

00:54:05.220 you know, they're, they're trying to destroy their culture. 0.99

00:54:07.620 They're trying to trying to destroy their way of life.

00:54:09.460 So they have to do everything.

00:54:10.580 They have to build the town.

00:54:11.860 They have to do neighborhood watches.

00:54:13.460 They have to fill the potholes. 0.99

00:54:14.900 They have to take care of, you know, the sanitation. 0.99

00:54:17.220 They have to make sure that they have educational opportunities, job opportunities.

00:54:21.540 And you know what?

00:54:22.580 They build every bit of it.

00:54:24.180 They make sure that everyone can move there, live there, sustain their life there,

00:54:28.420 work as close as possible, be educated there, marry there and be buried there.

00:54:33.460 Right?

00:54:33.940 Like the, the, if you, if you really know, you know, uh, where my dad's from,

00:54:38.900 there are generations and generations and generations of my family in the same cemetery,

00:54:43.540 because that is where our people are from.

00:54:45.620 And it's one of those scenarios where when you build that kind of community that is not

00:54:50.580 relying on the system that is not relying on everything else, then whatever comes, whatever

00:54:55.860 happens, whether Trump transforms the country makes America great again.

00:54:59.540 Well, guess what you're at the spearhead because you have already founded a community

00:55:02.980 that is ready to ride that.

00:55:04.100 And if things fall apart and things go Mad Max, well, guess what you've already got

00:55:08.260 a community that is ready to figure out how to work together, protect each other, to be off

00:55:11.940 the grid, whatever it is, whatever the scenario is, you have the social capital, you have those bonds.

00:55:17.380 And so that's why I think what you're doing is so important.

00:55:20.020 And what new founding and other, you know, other, uh, groups that are looking to build

00:55:24.660 that kind of infrastructure are doing is so important exit and the old glory club.

00:55:28.900 There are, there are many options for people who want to get involved.

00:55:32.260 You don't have to sit around online and complain about how, oh, there's just nothing to do.

00:55:36.660 There's no hope.

00:55:37.460 You don't have the black bill.

00:55:38.980 You can make things happen in the real world, but you're going to have to work.

00:55:42.020 It's not just throwing a switch on a, you know, on a voting machine somewhere.

00:55:46.660 You still got to put the work in.

00:55:48.020 Absolutely.

00:55:51.460 All right.

00:55:51.860 Well, is there anything else before we transition to the questions of the people,

00:55:55.140 make sure you tell everybody about the book and where they can find you all that.

00:55:58.980 Oh yeah.

00:55:59.540 Well, I, I wrote a book last year, uh, called the Boniface option.

00:56:03.460 And I mean, I talk about some of these things in there, like building, building parallel institutions

00:56:08.020 and society and things of that nature, right.

00:56:10.580 To be, to build community, right.

00:56:12.500 Having, having friends, like that's, that's part of, that's part of all of this is

00:56:18.020 right.

00:56:18.340 It, it's way more important to have lots of friends and people you trust all around

00:56:24.740 you in real life.

00:56:26.180 Right.

00:56:26.420 Than it is to have.

00:56:29.300 Right.

00:56:29.620 A big Twitter account with thousands of people following you or, or to have like

00:56:35.620 the rights, um, the right politics or the right theory or anything like that.

00:56:39.620 Like the thing we need more than anything else is just people, right.

00:56:42.580 Numbers in, in the same area altogether, uh, that have the same goals.

00:56:48.100 And, and so, right.

00:56:49.780 Building these things, being part of this is, is part and parcel with, with that book.

00:56:54.820 And so that, that book, yeah, it's done really well.

00:56:57.140 I, I'm sure, you know, uh, at least some of, uh, some of your listeners have read it and,

00:57:01.220 and, uh, um, and others, you know, I would, I would encourage them to read it.

00:57:05.540 Cause it's, it's about, um, a lot of the kinds of things you talk about on your show all the time,

00:57:09.940 right.

00:57:10.260 About how dysfunctional and destructive are our entire social makeup is right.

00:57:17.060 That, that actually, right.

00:57:19.220 Instead of read the crazy wild kind of boomer tier conspiracy theories, right.

00:57:24.740 Oh, the world, the world economic forum is going to take over.

00:57:27.860 They're going to put us all in a pod and make us eat bugs. 1.00

00:57:30.420 And we're going to live in this horrid dystopia.

00:57:33.540 It's like, well, dude, if you, if you went back a hundred years in time and described every

00:57:38.500 part of our way of life today, everything that's mainstream and normal.

00:57:42.420 You're already in the pod.

00:57:43.380 You're already eating the bugs.

00:57:44.420 Yeah.

00:57:44.820 Yeah.

00:57:45.460 Yeah.

00:57:45.700 They would look at you.

00:57:46.340 They'd be like, did we lose some kind of major war to some, are we enslaved to some?

00:57:51.940 Yeah.

00:57:52.180 Yeah.

00:57:52.420 Right.

00:57:52.900 Yeah.

00:57:53.460 Yeah.

00:57:53.860 Like they would be the, what happened?

00:57:55.700 Right.

00:57:56.020 I mean, if you tell them that, yeah, you know, like 30% of American kids will be born to married

00:58:01.780 mother and father.

00:58:02.660 Right.

00:58:02.820 It might be higher than might be 40, but like not the overwhelming majority of that, which is, was normal.

00:58:08.260 Right.

00:58:08.580 You, you have, um, you know, transgenderism is a thing.

00:58:12.500 Right.

00:58:12.820 Uh, homosexuality is totally acceptable throughout the entire country. 0.99

00:58:16.180 We, we killed millions of babies a year. 0.97

00:58:18.260 Like every part of our society that's completely messed up.

00:58:21.860 They would be like, what?

00:58:24.820 Right.

00:58:25.300 Every part of the things that we think are, are mostly normal.

00:58:28.260 Right.

00:58:28.500 We don't like them.

00:58:29.300 We think they're bad, but we've kind of, kind of accepted this as part of our life.

00:58:33.300 Now they would look at and think this is, you're like living in the matrix.

00:58:36.900 You're like living in, um, in like children of men, some kind of this horrible, horrible, 0.99

00:58:42.020 dystopian movie, something like Blade Runner, right?

00:58:44.180 We're already living in that.

00:58:45.140 So the question then is, right, since we live in that, right, what can one man do, right?

00:58:50.420 What can you as an individual do to combat these things, right?

00:58:54.900 That's, that's the question that was on my mind that I devoted a lot of time to writing

00:58:59.220 about thinking about.

00:59:00.180 And so, you know, if you're interested in those things, yeah, check that book out,

00:59:03.300 the Boniface option, right?

00:59:04.740 It's bonifaceoption.com.

00:59:06.260 And, and as far as finding me, I'm on Twitter at Boniface option.

00:59:09.860 And I, I do a show with another guy with a CJ angle.

00:59:12.980 I think he's been on your show before too, or, uh, uh, we do a, we do a podcast contramundum

00:59:19.380 every week, usually on Fridays, uh, do live stream and, and talk about political things.

00:59:24.100 We, we also like to talk about theory, uh, even though we are not theory cells, uh, we,

00:59:29.060 I mean, CJ is definitely a theory cell, but yeah, okay.

00:59:32.500 I balance, I balance him out a little bit, but, uh, he, he's also a man of action.

00:59:36.820 Don't, don't tell him short, uh, cause he's moving to Tennessee as well.

00:59:40.260 Uh, there you go.

00:59:41.140 There you go.

00:59:41.460 So I'm not ripping on the theory cell.

00:59:43.460 I am, I am obviously a theory cell, but yeah, I know, I know.

00:59:46.980 But at any rate, like we, we, we get into theory a little bit, but we also like to talk

00:59:51.140 about like real practical things as well.

00:59:53.380 So, uh, yeah, you can check us out there usually, you know, Thursdays at, or Fridays

00:59:57.620 rather at four central, um, at, uh, contramundum.

01:00:01.540 Excellent.

01:00:01.860 Yeah.

01:00:02.020 My, my favorite maneuver is to bring on, uh, podcast do is one at a time, you know,

01:00:06.260 make sure, make, make sure, you know, half of geo improved, you know, then half of your

01:00:12.420 podcast, you know, just mix it up.

01:00:14.340 You usually get the whole good old boys.

01:00:15.940 Cause you can't, you can't just let bog go by yourself.

01:00:18.500 You need, you know, you gotta have, um, you gotta have Merrick to yell at him, uh,

01:00:22.420 every once in a while.

01:00:23.300 That's right.

01:00:23.620 Things.

01:00:23.940 Right.

01:00:24.260 That's right.

01:00:25.140 All right, guys, let's head over to the questions of people real quick here.

01:00:28.820 Uh, creeper weirdo says the embodiment of the boomer truth regime is a bad guy.

01:00:32.820 No way.

01:00:33.380 He survived the war in Italy in 2003.

01:00:37.140 Yeah.

01:00:37.540 Stunning and brave.

01:00:38.660 Yeah.

01:00:39.220 Most assuredly.

01:00:40.180 Uh, gray duck here says in 2023, Minnesota legislature amended the human, uh, Minnesota

01:00:45.300 human rights act to add gender identity as a protected category without expanding the

01:00:50.180 religious exemption.

01:00:51.220 Yes.

01:00:51.620 Uh, Andrew mentioned that, uh, again, just terrible, um, obviously bigoted, obviously

01:00:57.220 targeted to destroy, uh, religious communities and institutions.

01:01:01.700 Um, and yeah, that, like I said, that, that would be enough for me right there.

01:01:05.460 It's like, Oh, can't, can't have a religious institution in this state.

01:01:09.380 Okay.

01:01:09.700 Well then we can't be here, but, uh, so that they are, they're definitely making themselves

01:01:14.180 in his spot inhospitable, uh, to anybody, uh, right of, of Mao over, over there.

01:01:19.300 And that's why the great sword is, is occurring.

01:01:21.380 That's why guys like elite human capital, like Andrew Isker is, uh, relocating itself,

01:01:26.740 uh, to, to more worthy states, uh, creeper weirdo says again, I find your guys attacking

01:01:32.660 left dad, uh, deeply offensive.

01:01:34.500 I mean, wow.

01:01:35.380 Do better.

01:01:38.420 Uh, forging anvil here says, Andrew has housework to do.

01:01:41.700 Pick up your Zen can.

01:01:44.020 Yeah.

01:01:44.420 I have not.

01:01:46.900 I have, uh, despite the peer pressure, I have not succumbed to the right wing, uh, addiction

01:01:51.540 to Zen yet.

01:01:52.740 Uh, you know, maybe one day, but I'm, I'm holding out so far.

01:01:57.220 Uh, Chris says PX ranger, AKA, uh, Gerardo.

01:02:01.220 Okay.

01:02:01.620 I don't know.

01:02:02.020 I didn't know that one.

01:02:02.740 I do know the PX ranger.

01:02:03.540 It's, it's, it's, it's Girdo.

01:02:05.220 Oh, Girdo.

01:02:06.100 Okay. 0.96

01:02:07.380 Apartmental of weirdo.

01:02:08.340 That makes far more sense.

01:02:09.060 Yeah.

01:02:09.300 Okay.

01:02:09.540 Yeah.

01:02:09.860 Yeah.

01:02:11.360 Well, then you really know.

01:02:12.380 I didn't know.

01:02:12.840 Okay.

01:02:13.500 Uh, let's see.

01:02:14.300 Cooper weirdo says, uh, that's a good, uh, uh, champion.

01:02:18.660 Is it though?

01:02:19.580 Is it really?

01:02:20.360 I know how, uh, no democracy is fake and non heterosexual, but Oren, come the con. 0.99

01:02:26.060 Uh, yes.

01:02:26.920 It's a very strange.

01:02:28.600 Uh, well, I mean, they were, they were gunning for Shapiro, right?

01:02:31.500 Like that was, that was the rumor originally.

01:02:34.000 Uh, and then I guess he turned out to be too Jewish for the left at this point, which is 1.00

01:02:38.700 hilarious.

01:02:39.080 I don't know.

01:02:39.660 Or maybe he just saw that there was a sinking ship.

01:02:42.080 Uh, bailed himself out.

01:02:43.060 I mean, it might've been the, yeah, it might've been the Israel thing.

01:02:45.380 I had heard that he himself is the one that pulled out and didn't want to.

01:02:48.960 I also heard part of that as well.

01:02:50.480 He got vetted for it.

01:02:51.460 And then it was just like, nah, no.

01:02:53.700 Yeah.

01:02:54.060 It's like, oh, we don't know what a guy that volunteered for the IDF.

01:02:57.040 Maybe.

01:02:57.480 I don't, I don't know.

01:02:58.260 But, and, and there's, there's some creepy stuff too.

01:03:00.440 Like he, uh, helped to exonerate somebody that almost, that was a family friend that,

01:03:06.300 uh, uh, this guy who had like apparently allegedly had murdered his girlfriend.

01:03:12.320 Right.

01:03:12.760 And it was ruled a suicide because she got stabbed like 22 times.

01:03:16.540 Oh yeah.

01:03:16.760 I saw that.

01:03:17.320 Yeah.

01:03:17.400 Twice in the head.

01:03:18.400 Right.

01:03:18.880 And, and like Shapiro was involved in labeling it a suicide.

01:03:21.980 Right.

01:03:22.400 Whoops.

01:03:22.840 I'm sure it just tripped, you know, but I mean, even, even, yeah, even like, I remember

01:03:28.740 after the, the horrific, you know, uh, Biden Trump debate horrific for, for Biden, uh,

01:03:36.700 my, my, I, I was thinking about something my wife had said a few days earlier.

01:03:40.060 Cause she was like, Andrew, I just noticed that, that Tim Walls has been on like meet

01:03:44.140 the press and good morning America and the today's show and done the whole circuit.

01:03:49.740 And it's like, that's kind of bizarre.

01:03:51.080 Like he's, he's kind of this backbencher.

01:03:53.080 He's not that big of a deal.

01:03:54.060 And he's going, doing this tour about how he signed this bill to give every child in

01:03:59.220 Minnesota, free chocolate milk or whatever.

01:04:01.880 And, uh, so they were touting what a wonderful guy he is.

01:04:05.420 And she's like, there's something going on here.

01:04:07.920 Right.

01:04:08.260 So my wife, uh, I think she's probably watching right now.

01:04:11.360 Uh, right.

01:04:12.320 She's got great instincts.

01:04:13.480 Cause she said that's going on.

01:04:15.460 Yeah.

01:04:15.760 Yeah.

01:04:16.000 And, and so like, after the debate, like CJ and I were doing a live stream and I said,

01:04:20.400 Hey, like if they dump Biden and it's not going to be Kamala, right.

01:04:24.620 A dark horse in this is my governor, Tim Walls.

01:04:28.560 And like all these people are like, no way, not a chance.

01:04:31.740 No, no, no.

01:04:32.720 And I'm like, I don't know guys.

01:04:34.340 And the worst part is like, I was looking on predicted and all the betting sites, uh,

01:04:38.840 once she was announced as the fill in for Biden, right. 0.94

01:04:41.400 To see like, when's he going to appear on the boards to be vice president.

01:04:45.420 Cause I was going to put maybe a hundred bucks down, you know, uh, better, you know,

01:04:48.980 better than sports gambling.

01:04:49.920 I'm not, I don't ever gamble.

01:04:51.000 Right.

01:04:51.320 So I don't even know how to do it or log into any of these things.

01:04:54.240 And I'd been checking it periodically.

01:04:56.180 And then, uh, he never appeared on the board except for like maybe a day beforehand for

01:05:01.260 just a couple cents apparently.

01:05:03.260 And if I'd been on my game, I would have found that I could have turned that a hundred

01:05:07.300 bucks into like 10,000, you know, could have retired off of a waltz.

01:05:11.320 Off of 10 walls.

01:05:12.260 Yeah.

01:05:12.720 But, uh, it, it never showed up.

01:05:14.320 I mean, it was, it was pretty tightly kept secret.

01:05:16.920 I mean, it wasn't until like, yeah, two or three days beforehand that the media started

01:05:20.460 circulating his name as a, as a possible candidate only once.

01:05:23.900 Like it, it made it seem like Shapiro was the guy, like there was the, the Philadelphia

01:05:28.360 mayor, mayor who like leaked out this, uh, congratulations video, which I think was also

01:05:34.560 purposeful because then all the oppo got dumped on Shapiro and they were able to be like,

01:05:39.460 nevermind.

01:05:40.540 Um, and so anyway, like, uh, I, I was, I was kind of expecting it a little bit.

01:05:47.400 Like I knew that, that walls was very well thought of at least internally in the, in the

01:05:52.860 democratic party.

01:05:53.620 I mean, as far as like, I mean, obviously I'm not involved in those kinds of conversations

01:05:57.360 or anything, but, but like, you know, you hear these things that they really, really

01:06:01.200 like him and they don't like him because he's such a wonderful guy and he's really a statesman

01:06:07.180 like, and normal and things like that.

01:06:09.220 He's not, he's not Gavin Newsom.

01:06:11.260 Like he's not a pretty face and well-spoken or anything like that.

01:06:15.360 Right.

01:06:15.920 He's very loyal, right.

01:06:17.380 He does their bidding and he doesn't ask questions.

01:06:20.200 He does exactly what he is told.

01:06:22.660 And, um, and so I, I knew that and, and he was, he was great for them, uh, in 2020,

01:06:30.920 right.

01:06:31.580 And he helped, I mean, the fortification that took place in Minnesota, uh, he played

01:06:37.100 a, a significant role in that in, you know, having mail on, like there, there are a bunch

01:06:42.560 of precincts in Minnesota where there is no in-person balloting whatsoever.

01:06:46.840 Right.

01:06:47.280 And it's not, it used to be, they would do that in like the iron range.

01:06:50.660 That's really sparsely populated where you only have like maybe, you know, a few dozen

01:06:56.720 people in a precinct where it's like, rather than keeping a polling place open all day, we'll

01:07:00.380 just have you mail it to the courthouse.

01:07:02.460 Right.

01:07:02.920 Well, they adopted that for large cities like Blue Earth County, Mankato, where Wolves is

01:07:06.400 from.

01:07:07.060 There is no polling place anywhere for a person to, to cast a paper ballot.

01:07:11.400 Right.

01:07:11.840 You have to vote by mail in, in these places.

01:07:14.340 So, right.

01:07:15.620 He has made Minnesota this very fortified state where Trump comes here to campaign.

01:07:22.640 And I mean, Trump nearly won Minnesota back in 2016.

01:07:26.120 Like that's, that was kind of like my claim to fame about like, oh, I've got really good

01:07:30.080 political instincts because I, I was telling all of these, you know, Politico guys, right.

01:07:35.560 These not, not the magazine, but guys connected to the state legislature and involved in, in

01:07:40.560 lobbying and things like that.

01:07:42.060 And in like October of 2016, I'm like, Hey, I think Trump might win Minnesota.

01:07:46.240 Right.

01:07:46.600 If he doesn't win, he's at least going to come close.

01:07:48.580 And they're like, have you seen the polls?

01:07:49.720 He's down like 10% to Hillary.

01:07:51.640 Like, there's no way you don't know anything, Andrew.

01:07:53.900 And I'm like, yeah, but like, I got an entire Facebook feed of guys I went to high school

01:07:59.060 with that are just, you know, blue collar dudes that did not care at all about politics

01:08:03.960 for the last 20 years.

01:08:05.620 And all they do all day long is share Trump memes.

01:08:08.740 Right.

01:08:09.340 And, and I knew like something was up, like all these guys are going to come out and vote

01:08:12.880 for him.

01:08:13.420 That don't ever get pulled.

01:08:15.540 That have never been involved in politics.

01:08:17.780 They've never voted in a primary election or a general election.

01:08:21.800 And they all showed up to vote for him.

01:08:23.660 And he, he lost Minnesota by like 20,000 votes in 2016.

01:08:27.920 So it was very close.

01:08:28.860 Like he almost won this state, but since then they've, they very well fortified it in 2020

01:08:34.860 and, and right now.

01:08:36.220 And, and I, I, I, I'd love it if he wins.

01:08:39.340 It'd be awesome.

01:08:39.840 But, uh, you know, hopefully my wife's and my two votes will be the ones that when I hope

01:08:45.920 he wins by two votes here in Minnesota.

01:08:47.600 Exactly.

01:08:47.900 We're going to, yeah, a nice, a nice parting gift.

01:08:50.360 Uh, Robert Weinsfeld says, uh, the running cat lady and cuckold it's auto fortified in

01:08:56.540 2024.

01:08:57.060 Are we officially retiring, uh, voting harder?

01:09:00.420 Well, like I said, no matter what happens, the answer is the same.

01:09:05.860 Organize, build, organize, build, be prepared.

01:09:09.900 They don't, don't cast the vote.

01:09:11.980 Great.

01:09:12.620 But we all know democracy is fake.

01:09:14.600 So then go build something, go do, go do something, do real politics in the, in the

01:09:20.660 most visceral way possible.

01:09:21.800 Build a community, you know, build its values, let the politics flow from it.

01:09:26.440 You know, that, that's what you need to be prepared for no matter how things go.

01:09:31.420 And then Norwegian cross here says, uh, Norwegian here.

01:09:34.840 I put that together.

01:09:36.020 Thank you.

01:09:36.380 Uh, how, how do you describe, uh, Minnesotans political, uh, politics and faith compared

01:09:42.840 to Norway, Europe and rest of America?

01:09:45.060 Any chance for a red or purple future?

01:09:47.420 Yeah.

01:09:47.560 Is Minnesota cooked or is, is there a chance one day if, you know, it's, it hasn't driven

01:09:52.500 every conservative person out with, uh, their blue laws that they could eventually, uh,

01:09:57.980 return.

01:09:58.240 Yeah.

01:09:59.060 Yeah.

01:09:59.260 I've never been to Norway.

01:10:00.340 I have been to, to Germany, uh, 20 years ago.

01:10:03.720 So I'm a little bit familiar with like the lay of the land in Europe and, and, and you

01:10:08.100 can kind of like, I, I pay attention to European politics a little bit and I've seen, you know,

01:10:12.860 like the AFD, uh, grow and many of the right-wing parties in Europe, uh, start to gain some

01:10:17.920 steam.

01:10:19.140 Um, but, uh, you know, Minnesota, I mean, temperamentally is very, very similar, I think.

01:10:25.860 Right.

01:10:26.340 Um, the, I mean, somebody was saying in the chat that, that Minnesota nice is very, very

01:10:32.280 real and it absolutely is.

01:10:34.300 Right.

01:10:34.940 Um, one of the difficulties that we've had here is that we, you could never have like

01:10:41.280 a Trumpian sort of figure in Minnesota.

01:10:44.440 Right.

01:10:44.980 Because that, that's like the antidote to somebody like walls, right. 0.99

01:10:48.160 Cause he's just this comically, this comical buffoon, this liar, right. 0.98

01:10:51.880 All he ever does is lie about everything and you could eviscerate a guy like that. 1.00

01:10:56.040 If you had like the cojones to do it, if you just said, Tim walls, you're a liar. 1.00

01:10:59.900 You'd never went to Afghanistan. 0.99

01:11:01.100 You say you did, right.

01:11:02.420 You, you say you're a command Sergeant major, you got demoted, right.

01:11:06.200 You're, you're not this war hero.

01:11:07.800 What are you talking about?

01:11:08.740 You've locked everybody in their homes for months on end while you let people burn down

01:11:13.080 the city.

01:11:13.520 Like if, if you went right at him and attacked him in this sort of Trumpian manner, uh, it

01:11:19.780 would be over, right.

01:11:20.900 He would, he would wilt and he would get really angry, right.

01:11:24.560 That's what I think is going to happen.

01:11:25.740 If there is a debate between him and JD Vance, JD Vance would be a cool, cool collected customer,

01:11:30.640 right.

01:11:31.740 Have his talking points down.

01:11:33.000 He's very good communicator and he'll get under walls, his skin and walls is going to 1.00

01:11:37.860 lose his mind, right.

01:11:39.640 That's, what's going to happen.

01:11:40.380 You'll start foaming at the mouth and screaming, right.

01:11:43.180 And you do that and you win.

01:11:45.260 And in Minnesota, no one was ever able to do that because the temperament of our people

01:11:50.400 here is like, well, we're good people.

01:11:52.100 We're nice.

01:11:53.040 You got to be respectful and respectable, right.

01:11:56.300 You just, you just got to talk about policy.

01:11:58.220 You don't want to get into the weeds.

01:11:59.880 And it's like, no, the weeds is where everything is.

01:12:01.960 Like, like mass democracy is pro wrestling.

01:12:05.000 Right.

01:12:05.400 Uh, and, and, and, and Tim walls is the heel, right.

01:12:10.100 You got to be able to attack him and, and nobody does.

01:12:13.380 Nobody does.

01:12:14.200 And now he's entered an environment where he is being attacked.

01:12:17.340 That's, that's the thing where it's like, all these people are seeing all the lies.

01:12:20.140 Like, I mean, there was one today where he just takes pictures of random dogs and calls

01:12:25.160 them all scout.

01:12:26.000 Like it's his dog.

01:12:27.560 And like, he lies literally about everything.

01:12:29.460 He lies and says that his children were conceived by IVF when actually they were not.

01:12:34.660 His wife said it was IUI, right.

01:12:37.120 A totally different procedure that doesn't fertilize embryos.

01:12:40.720 And he just lies about that.

01:12:42.300 He lies about his military service.

01:12:44.400 He lies about literally everything.

01:12:46.320 I mean, and, and they're, they're the kind of lies where it's only like a pathological 0.87

01:12:50.240 liar could do, right. 0.98

01:12:52.520 Where a pathological liar is somebody that lies knowing the lie is just easily disprovable. 0.91

01:12:57.960 Like it'd be like me saying, no, there isn't a microphone in front of my face right now

01:13:01.440 when everybody in the whole world could see that there is one right in front of my face.

01:13:05.420 And he just constantly does that.

01:13:07.340 And in Minnesota, he can get, he can get away with it because no one is confrontational

01:13:13.700 here at all, except for maybe me and I'm leaving.

01:13:16.500 And like, no one, no one wants to confront him whatsoever.

01:13:22.260 And, and now he's in an environment where he is being confronted, where the gloves have

01:13:27.280 come off and all his lies get exposed, right.

01:13:30.240 The, the media always covered for him here in Minnesota.

01:13:34.260 Um, and the media is still doing the same thing for him, you know, at large nationally,

01:13:39.000 but it doesn't matter as much anymore because right.

01:13:42.240 You have Trump, you have Vance, you have, right.

01:13:44.920 The, you, you have on, you have the online rights that does really good job of, of sussing

01:13:50.180 out all of his lies, uh, all the time.

01:13:52.820 And, and he's now having his feet held to the fire, right.

01:13:56.120 I think part of it is like, why, why didn't they vet him?

01:13:58.860 Well, they didn't really have to, right.

01:14:00.860 Because none of these things that would have been an issue became an issue during his congressional

01:14:05.800 career and his career as governor, uh, because they could just sweep them all under the rug.

01:14:10.880 So they didn't even think about any of these lies, right.

01:14:13.180 They didn't have to, uh, none of it was an issue.

01:14:15.420 And, and now it is, and it's a, it's a huge vulnerability for him.

01:14:19.480 Um, and so it's, it's exciting to see.

01:14:23.260 So yeah, like the temperament of Minnesotans, right.

01:14:25.440 And, and a question other people have had is like, can Minnesota be saved?

01:14:28.920 Um, you know, I don't know because right.

01:14:32.520 Nobody here really wants to fight, right.

01:14:35.680 The, the problem with the GOP in Minnesota, I mean, I've said this many times before is

01:14:40.620 I'm familiar with a lot of the different state of lived in different States and seen how the, 0.65

01:14:45.280 the, you know, GOP in like Missouri and Idaho and other places operates.

01:14:50.100 And it's way more effective, way more organized.

01:14:52.480 They have things put together here in Minnesota.

01:14:54.400 It's incredibly corrupt, right?

01:14:56.900 The guy who replaced Tim Walz, uh, who's since passed away, uh, in Congress, uh, his wife,

01:15:03.980 uh, who he married late in life.

01:15:06.120 Uh, it was, she became the, the head of the, uh, Minnesota GOP and was involved in all sorts

01:15:14.140 of financial crimes, things like that. 0.94

01:15:16.540 It's incredibly corrupt.

01:15:18.400 And, and there, there's zero desire to do anything.

01:15:21.600 It's, it's very much like Congress in general, where all, all of our representatives, um, the

01:15:27.980 GOP ones, all they care about is their committee assignments and bringing back grants to their

01:15:32.440 districts.

01:15:33.800 And, and that's what the caucus cares about is all right, but yeah, you're going to, you 0.99

01:15:39.380 know, chop the genitals up at your children. 1.00

01:15:40.900 That's whatever, but are we going to get our committee assignments so I can bring back some 0.99

01:15:45.220 pork for, for my town, right?

01:15:47.400 That's, that's all they care about, right?

01:15:49.080 Nobody wants to fight.

01:15:50.180 There's, there's a handful of really good senators and, and, uh, representatives in Minnesota, but

01:15:56.040 not enough to be able to stem the tide.

01:15:59.560 And I don't, I don't foresee that changing at all because of the temperament of the people.

01:16:03.540 Like even, even conservative people, like in my town, all over my town, there are Trump

01:16:07.900 signs everywhere there.

01:16:09.680 I haven't even seen a single Harris sign in the entire town.

01:16:14.560 And, and yet, right.

01:16:16.260 The people that we elect to send to St.

01:16:18.760 Paul, they do nothing.

01:16:20.880 They do less than nothing, right?

01:16:23.060 Oh, they, we got it.

01:16:24.320 We, we got some money for a new highway.

01:16:26.380 That's cool.

01:16:27.300 Right.

01:16:27.560 But that's, that's like the basic function of government.

01:16:30.340 Right.

01:16:31.000 We expect you to do those things, but we also want you to like protect our children.

01:16:34.620 Like, Hey, why do we have, uh, tampons in the boys' bathroom in our high school?

01:16:40.500 Right.

01:16:40.920 Why, why, why is that?

01:16:42.200 Right.

01:16:42.480 Why don't you just tell the state?

01:16:43.600 No, we're not going to do those things.

01:16:45.740 Now that's Trump's official nickname for him.

01:16:47.740 So I know.

01:16:49.740 Yeah.

01:16:50.100 Great.

01:16:50.640 Yeah.

01:16:50.920 Well, I'm glad.

01:16:52.200 Yeah.

01:16:52.420 Yeah.

01:16:52.720 Well, I'm glad that you are making that change.

01:16:55.420 I know that's rough and it's unfortunate that circumstances have forced you, but I think

01:17:00.620 part of the great sort is putting people in communities where they belong.

01:17:04.500 And it sounds like you are going to be in there and you're going to be in a place where

01:17:07.900 you can build that generational, you know, social capital that you were hoping that tradition

01:17:12.860 that home.

01:17:13.620 Um, and it's never fun to be the first one to have to strike out and do that, but I think

01:17:18.420 it's going to meet your goals.

01:17:19.320 So I'm, I'm glad that that's, that's an option for you.

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The Auron MacIntyre Show - August 26, 2024

Tim Walz Is DANGEROUS to Parental Rights and Free Speech ｜ Guest： Andrew Isker ｜ 8⧸26⧸24

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