Tim Walz Is DANGEROUS to Parental Rights and Free Speech ｜ Guest： Andrew Isker ｜ 8⧸26⧸24
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In this episode, I sit down with Andrew Isker, an author, pastor, and former governor of Wisconsin, to discuss why Tim Walz is the worst governor Wisconsin has ever had, why he s a disaster, and why he should go home.
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Hey everybody, how's it going? Thanks for joining me this afternoon.
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I've got a great stream with a great guest that I think you're really going to enjoy.
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Obviously Kamala Sedley getting cooed into the run for the presidency was a surprise for a lot of people.
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And you wonder who's going to be the vice president in that moment.
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Tim Walls probably wasn't on most people's original list,
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but he has now been catapulted into the limelight.
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The media is trying to do kind of the same snow job they're doing with Kamala Harris.
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But those who have lived under Tim Walls' governorship recognize that that is not the case.
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That actually the man is a disaster and more importantly,
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very dangerous to both things like parental rights and free speech.
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And somebody who has dealt with that and has chosen to move his family
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because of the terrible policies enacted by Tim Walls is author and pastor Andrew Isker.
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Yeah, obviously, you know, I don't want to say I'm glad you have this background, this experience.
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Obviously, it's terrible that you're kind of forced in this situation.
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But I am glad we can at least use your experience and your knowledge, your firsthand knowledge,
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Because I think a lot of this, so much of this media front game, this facade is put up.
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I know I wasn't completely familiar with all of this.
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And so it's really important to recognize that someone like this is being elevated
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That's not the Democratic Party just grabbing a random white guy and pasting him onto the ticket.
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When you're picking somebody with these kind of ideological priors, you're making a statement.
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So we're going to talk about Andrew's background, where Waltz came from, everything that came
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All right, Andrew, so before we get into Governor Walz, let's begin with your backstory, because
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like we were talking about before we came on air, so many people are moving all the time.
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They're chasing a job or an education or something across the state.
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But there are people who are trying to dig down, trying to keep their roots, build community,
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dedicate themselves to an area, build social capital.
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You're one of these people who believe in this, you know, my hometown.
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So you're not making a decision to move like this lightly.
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Can you tell people, you know, your family's history, how long you've been there?
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Yeah, so I'm from Waseca, Minnesota, which is about an hour, hour and a half south of
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And my family has been here, including my children, for six generations.
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So my great-great-grandfather emigrated from Germany, spent some time in Wisconsin, and
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then finally settled here in Minnesota, in Southern Minnesota, in Waseca.
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And, you know, after college, I went to seminary, I served different churches in a few different
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The entire time, my wife and I both wanted to be back here.
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We wanted to be back in Minnesota because this is home for both of us.
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This is where we grew up, where we know people.
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And I felt all those things that you're describing, right, that everyone's very transient.
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I wanted to replant my roots and be part of the community that I grew up and I loved.
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And so we moved back in 2018, after several years away, and thought, well, we're just going
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And ironically, the year that we moved back is the year that our congressman, Tim Walls,
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right, he was the congressman in the first district of Minnesota, the Southern Minnesota,
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ascended to the governor's mansion in Minnesota.
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And that's when the destruction of the state really took off.
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This is where the Democratic Party during the progressive era merged with basically the
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socialist parties, the farmer labor party to be the DFL, right?
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There isn't a Democratic Party in Minnesota, it's the DFL.
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So it's always been very progressive and very labor oriented and all of those kind of values
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of the older progressive era and even a mid-century liberal ideology of the Democratic Party.
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We knew that going into it, like, yeah, I'm going to have to pay more in taxes to live
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But outstate Minnesota, still very, very conservative culturally.
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But with Walls taking over, especially after 2020 and everything that happened there, and
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then when he is able to be reelected, the GOP, which had always for decades had retained
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the state Senate, and it kind of been this bulwark against all the crazy stuff they've
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Because many people in the state legislature had always, always wanted to do insane like
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California or Oregon or Washington type liberal stuff, right?
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We had Paul Wellstone as our senator, and he was the Bernie Sanders 1.0, right?
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And so we've had that as part of our political culture here, but there still was enough of
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But then after the election in 2022, when the GOP lost the state Senate by a single seat,
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The very first bill that they passed was to take away every last single restriction on
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abortion in the state of Minnesota after the Dobbs decision.
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So they made it completely legal right up until birth, no restrictions on parental consent or
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So anybody for any reason from anywhere could come to Minnesota and have an abortion, right?
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And one of the next bills was the trans refugee state bill, where they put the language in there.
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And all of these things passed by a single vote in the state Senate, where children could be taken
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away from their parents if their parents opposed a transitioning, right?
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And so that happening, it was like, all right, we could deal with high taxes.
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We could deal with the insanity of the Twin Cities.
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All the, I mean, the summer of George started here, you know, started an hour plus.
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We can even deal with Walls' lockdowns and all the things he did during 2020, right?
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Those are bad, but it was bad everywhere, pretty much.
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But, you know, it was bad in many, many places.
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So we're like, okay, we can, we can handle that.
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But then when they, when they say, all right, we're going to take your kids, right?
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If, if, right, we're able to groom one of your kids into thinking that he's a girl, right?
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We can just take them right out of your custody, right?
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We, we saw that, that law passing and Walls, you know, celebrating it and his, right, lieutenant
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I'm sure many of your, your listeners have seen the photos of, of Peggy Flanagan wearing like
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And there's like this, like the graphic tee with a knife on it.
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They just, and, and then surrounded by all of these like free murdering the parents all
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It's for murdering the parents and cutting off body parts of the kids.
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And, and it's like, we can't, we can't live in an environment, right?
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Where the, the legal apparatus exists for our children to be taken.
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Like, I don't think that any of my kids are ever going to go down that road, but of course,
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like nobody thinks that their kids are exactly road.
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And, and so I don't want to be in a place where they can just take your kids, right?
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Uh, because it, it, it, it, it's just utterly monstrous.
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I mean, this is, this is the kind of stuff that you, you think of in the deepest, darkest
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I mean, I, I've read a lot about the Soviet union and, and Mao's China and North Korea
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and, and, and things, things like that, places like that.
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And it's like, I don't even know if they did stuff like that there where they just take
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Like they didn't, they didn't have transgenderism in those places where they take your kids and
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Uh, it's in many ways, even worse than those monstrosities.
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And so we're like, we have to, we have to leave this place.
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And we, and, and all of it is not like, I'm not somebody who's like, oh, well, let's pick
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Let's get a job somewhere else, leave the state.
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It's not, um, a decision that, that we make lightly at all.
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We wanted to stay, our children to stay here and our grandchildren to stay here and be part
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of, be part of the community that, that our family has been part of.
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And, and it's simply not possible for us to in, in good conscience or, uh, any, any reasonable
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sense of prudence to ever think that we could do that.
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So let's start in 2020, because this is something that was really critical for my political
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awakening, along with so many other people, the combination of obviously the lockdowns
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and then the riots and then the election and every, everything that was stacked on top
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of each other was just too, it's too much all at once really showing you that the system
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is fundamentally broken and that you're not protected and that the constitution is not
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What was it like in that moment of going from the lockdowns and then being at the ground zero
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with the summer of Floyd, Hey, what, what was the feeling like being so close to the epicenter
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I mean, it was like, it was like living in a, in a nightmare or a bad dream or, or like
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Where we couldn't, we couldn't really leave our house other than to go like grocery shopping.
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Uh, you couldn't, you, if, and, and to leave your house, you had to wear a mask everywhere
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and you had to, you couldn't, you couldn't meet with your friends.
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Like you couldn't have a party in your backyard.
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Um, but if you are, you know, protesting white supremacy and racial injustice, well, not only
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can you go out without a mask and gather by the thousands, you could, uh, burn down a police
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precinct and loot a target and burn down entire blocks of the city.
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And, and we're watching it and it's like the, and the police are largely doing nothing.
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Obviously they're outmanned, uh, and overpowered, uh, the governor.
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I mean, the thing that really bothered a lot of people is at the very first night, you know,
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we're watching on, on social media, like live streams of that, that first target being,
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being looted and all of these people liberating TVs, uh, from racial injustice.
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And, uh, and then the things on fire and, and I'm thinking like, all right, any normal place
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would have, the governor would immediately call up the national guard, like that minute
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We need to, we need to restore order in this place.
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And then he blamed the, uh, mayor of Minneapolis, Jacob Frey, who himself is very far left.
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Like, I mean, people probably remember from that, that summer, right.
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When they had Floyd's funeral and this guy is like histrionically weeping, right.
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Just like walls, his son at the DNC, like in front of George Floyd's golden casket, just
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Um, and, and even fry was, was begging the governor to mobilize the national guard.
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And he blamed him and said, oh, you didn't feel the right paperwork.
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And it took him days of writing before he finally called in the national guard.
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And then when, um, a journalist, um, confronted Tim walls, which rarely happens in this state,
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The star tribune and all the WCCO and all the news stations and everything totally in
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He's the wonderful, he's don't, you know, he's the guy that gave all the school children
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A journalist actually confronted him and say, Hey, why don't you call up the national guard?
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He's like, well, what are 19 year old cooks going to be able to do?
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That's, that's what he said, like verbatim, right.
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And, and again, this is the guy who like touts his national guard service and how he's,
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how he's this, uh, this wonderful warrior and veteran, right.
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And, um, and he, he says, oh, what, what good are 19 year old cooks going to do?
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And so he refused to send out the national guard.
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Once he did saying, all right, don't go, everybody who was out there writing, don't
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go over here and don't go over there because you'll get arrested if you go here or there.
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So do your writing and burning somewhere else, right.
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She's from the governor's mansion coordinating with her dad, right.
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The riots and walls, his wife was interviewed during this.
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This, the smell of burning, you know, burning buildings and everything else, because that's
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But you, you said something that I think is important that not enough people will stop
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and meditate on the implications of, uh, can you, can you say that again, he was, he was
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functionally with his daughter on social media live coordinating the riots.
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She was, she was telling them about all, and this is stuff that it's like not public knowledge,
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She's, she is telling them where, where not to go, uh, during the right.
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Uh, but like almost certainly that's a criminal act.
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So, so to be clear, that means that Kamala Harris actively bailed out the people responsible
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She actually raised money and actively bailed out, uh, violent, uh, people who are capable
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of killing, burning, looting during the whole of this.
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And her vice president was basically working with his daughter live to coordinate these riots.
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The democratic party literally ordering its foot troops and bailing its foot troops out
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of jail to burn your community, to loot your community, to endanger the lives of people
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This is who they're holding up for their presidential ticket.
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And, and meanwhile, they, even though obviously, right.
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Donald Trump didn't say, all right, everybody go inside the Capitol and go burn it down and
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looted and attack congressmen, he never said anything like that whatsoever.
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Uh, they, they project all of the things they actually did during the summer of 2020 onto
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Like when, when they literally are guilty of, of literal insurrection in our country.
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And, and facilitating it, promoting it, bailing people out of jail for it.
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Yet then they turned around and say like, no, actually that's what you guys do.
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And, uh, yeah, like, um, uh, one of the guys in the chat, you know, gray duck, I just, I'm
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You know, he brings up a good point, um, about amending the human rights act in the state
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Adding gender identity is a protected category, right.
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So like if you have a Christian school and you say, Hey, we're, we don't hire transgender
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We have a, uh, a moral code and so forth against that.
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Uh, you can be sued and forced to hire, you know, gays, lesbians, transgender people at
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And, and within that bill, this is the other thing, uh, uh, regarding that bill, they tried
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to make pedophilia a protected class and it got squashed in committee, right.
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They attempted to make it protected and, and walls was going to sign it like that.
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This is, this is how these people think, right.
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I mean, I like personally have a fairly long history, uh, with him.
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Uh, he was, he became our Congressman when I was in college.
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I went to college in Minnesota state Mankato, where he is, where he is from, or he's from
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Mankato as a teacher at Mankato West and was running for Congress while I was in college.
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And I was involved in, in, you know, GOP politics and the college Republicans and things like
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And I remember, I remember encountering him, right.
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Several times I would, once he was in office, I would go to his, you know, town halls that
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he would have in, uh, in Mankato and especially when Obamacare was being trotted out, right.
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He was, um, one of Obama's strongest soldiers for Obamacare, right.
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A pun intended that he, um, he held a town hall meeting at the Mankato East high school
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auditorium that fit maybe a few thousand people.
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I mean, we stood in line to go to that town hall meeting, uh, for hours, right.
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And when we get in there, um, all the front seats and everything, like hundreds of seats
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in the front are already taken by, by union employees, nurses, union employees, public union,
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you know, SEIU employees, public union, uh, that they bust in from the twin cities out of our district
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to come like fill, to make it look like there were two sides because every single person that went to
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this was there because they're irate about Obamacare being passed.
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So he was going to have, you know, 3000 people in that auditorium, you know, screaming at him
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He brings, or he brings in the president of Blue Cross Blue Shield, Minnesota to try to sell
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it to us saying like, Oh, see, I have a, I have an insurance guy here with me.
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And he's, you know, you guys, you Republicans like guys like this, don't you?
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He's going to benefit from this just as much as anybody else is.
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And, and he, he lies through his teeth saying, no, your premiums aren't going to go up.
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So your tech, it's not going to be paid for with your taxes.
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This is just providing insurance coverage for everybody.
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And everything's, everything's going to be normal.
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All of the, and all of the people that got to speak, most of them were already like preselected
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among all these union people that, that he bust in from the twin cities out of our district.
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And it was like, that, that was like his entire political career in, in a microcosm, right?
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It is, it is just this, um, astroturfed thing, all of it.
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And, and the first district of Minnesota traditionally was always Republican and, uh, he barely got
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And, and from that point on, like he was an incumbent, he kept winning all the time and
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And he, he wanted to do all, all of this crazy stuff, always voted for all of it.
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But then, then he does all these photo ops, right.
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That's why I'm going to try to take away all of your guns.
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Let's talk about that for a second, because this has been the most cringe part of this.
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So obviously you're running the first black female, or I guess kind of Jamaican and Indian
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And I'll let, I'll let the black community argue over whether or not that counts.
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And so obviously to, to, you don't want to spook all of the white guys in the democratic
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Um, and, uh, so you gotta put, you gotta put somebody up there to kind of backstop that.
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And so you're, you're going to put like Tim walls in there and the way they're trying
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to portray this guy is, and there there's literally, I think it was, there was a commentator.
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I believe it was on MSNBC who actually just said this out loud.
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Tim walls is there to let everybody know that it's okay for a black woman to be your
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Like specifically said, like the whole reason Tim walls is there is we want to watch you
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and we want to watch a white man play second fiddle.
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And that's the thing you need to be prepared for.
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Like we're doing this so you can learn your place in the new order of things like, oh,
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Uh, but you know, you have, uh, the, the, the forced camo hat and, and, you know, literally
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members of the Democrat party being like, see, he has a camo hat.
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Like we don't hate the, we don't hate the rural pores because there's a camo hat somewhere
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in our, I think there, there was an entire, I'm trying to remember if it's like a, a Vox
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article or, you know, article being like, it's white people.
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What do you think about this, this, this kind of, uh, astroturfing of him as a hunter
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and outdoorsman, you know, he's a basketball coach.
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He's, he's just one of the guys that would flip burgers in the backyard, but also would
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And of course, like anybody who actually hunts, right.
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Like the pictures of him pheasant hunting, right.
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I know, I know what, like, it actually looks like for one, like he's carrying his, the
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shotgun he's carrying is like $4,000 it's made for trap shooting.
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It's, it's way too heavy to carry out in a field where you're going to go walk for like
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Every part of his hunting gear looks like it was just bought off the shelf, right?
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It's still got all the wrinkles and everything, the folds in it.
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Uh, I mean, it looks like the, uh, or if you think of like the Charlottesville
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Or he's like a, he's like a, he's like a PX ranger, right?
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Like shows up to the, to the, uh, the, the army unit with all the, uh, all the high speed
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stuff he bought off the shelf, you know, he's the most well-equipped guy there.
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And, and, and, and part of it too, it's like, so anyone, anyone in this world like gets
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Uh, what it does though, is it like reassures, especially like the, the liberal white woman,
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Who, um, who will post on Facebook or see, see, he's a hunter.
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That gives them reassurance more than anything else.
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The cat, that's what the camo hat does is see, he, he likes rural white people.
00:27:09.120
That, and it, but it doesn't really actually move the needle for anybody.
00:27:12.500
Like not a single, I don't think there's a single person in America that was like, you
00:27:18.380
I really liked that Trump guy, but man, have you seen this camo hat that Tim Walls has?
00:27:29.920
I want, I want the camo hat white, white dudes for Harris, right?
00:27:33.820
That whole, uh, that whole, uh, Skype call he's, he's just the physical embodiment of
00:27:38.000
that mentality, but yeah, I mean, it also like you, you do have a lot of these guys,
00:27:43.460
um, unfortunately who are like the Yellowstone meme, you know, Kevin Costner sitting in the
00:27:48.520
back of a truck, like it reinforces them as well.
00:27:52.220
He's, he's a solid guy and, and I'm going to vote for him, but yeah, I don't care if
00:27:57.180
he's going to, you know, cut the genitals off of children or, or, you know, tax unrealized
00:28:07.500
I mean, you do have people that think that way, uh, but none of those people were going
00:28:13.060
So it, it's, it's, it's all just this, uh, totally fake thing.
00:28:17.020
I mean, just looking at like the DNC and all of it, it was, it, it would, I, I've never seen
00:28:27.680
I mean, obviously just as cringy as all get out, but every part of it is just like this
00:28:33.100
carefully, carefully orchestrated cringe fest where they're not, they, they didn't say
00:28:38.680
anything of, of substance whatsoever the entire time about any of their policies.
00:28:44.800
He's any, it's just like Trump is really bad and we're the good guys.
00:28:51.040
And, and to be fair, that's a good campaign that that's actually what politics is.
00:29:04.600
And, and, and so part of it, like you look at the logic of why they select walls.
00:29:08.260
I mean, there's, I think there's a few factors.
00:29:10.100
One is he, it was a loyal, um, Obama guy, his entire tenure in Congress.
00:29:18.240
Uh, he's rewarded, uh, by the democratic party with, um, uh, the governor's mansion in Minnesota.
00:29:29.000
He dutifully imposes the lockdowns and everything else, uh, and helps to facilitate the riots.
00:29:37.360
I mean, these, we, when we think about the BLM riots, right.
00:29:40.400
I don't think anyone, you know, listening to, to your stream is like, yep, those are totally
00:29:53.360
Like there were all these NGOs that operate in Minnesota, right.
00:29:56.580
In Minnesota, we had, I believe it is in, in 2018, uh, around Christmas time, there was
00:30:02.280
a, there was a black guy who got shot by the cops and, uh, Flander Castile, I think his
00:30:07.780
name was, and he, uh, they, they had BLM chapters and community organizers and all this kind of
00:30:16.020
stuff, uh, blocking freeways, uh, going, going to the mall of America and disrupting like
00:30:22.420
Christmas stuff there and, and doing all these massive protests.
00:30:26.540
And, and that was like the first iteration of this, where it was like the dry run for
00:30:32.700
what they wanted to do eventually, uh, when they could really kick off the powder keg.
00:30:37.100
And, and so Minnesota has always had, it's always kind of been ground zero for a lot of
00:30:43.940
Uh, and like, if you're familiar with, uh, city bureaucrat on Twitter, right.
00:30:50.300
Uh, his thing, I think he says often is that Minnesota is America's Ukraine and he's, he's
00:30:59.500
Like this is, uh, the, uh, the NGOs go to test their, uh, their crazy psyops.
00:31:07.300
Like, and it, it dates back to like the early nineties when they started, uh, resettling
00:31:15.240
Uh, I remember being even in rural Minnesota, I remember being in like seventh grade and
00:31:19.380
all of a sudden there's this, uh, kid named Muhammad in my class and his sister wore a
00:31:28.880
And then the next year there's like dozens of them in my small rural town and, uh, they're
00:31:36.140
And this, this is what happened in Minnesota throughout the late nineties into the two
00:31:41.660
They've resettled all of the, all of the refugees from, from Somalia in, in Minnesota at first.
00:31:51.620
Like they're out, they're just kind of, they, they, they love Lunefisk.
00:31:56.360
They're, they're going to the American Legion playing pole tabs, right.
00:31:59.600
You know, riding, riding their snowmobiles, right.
00:32:07.220
But within, yeah, within the twin cities, I mean, there's a tremendous amount of political
00:32:13.340
Uh, like, yeah, somebody in the chat, you know, brought up Will Stancil, right.
00:32:17.460
I mean, he's part and parcel of like what, what is going on in, in our state is a lot of
00:32:26.520
Even, um, with the, uh, the Hennepin County prosecutor, Mary Moriarty, right.
00:32:32.240
Is, uh, is one of these Soros prosecutors where she's letting people out of, out of
00:32:37.180
jail or suspending their sentence sentences or plea, you know, giving plea bargains that
00:32:42.640
For very serious crimes, just not, not prosecuting crime whatsoever.
00:32:57.060
Well, and you, and you're, you, the, the demographic, the demographic transformation of your state
00:33:01.240
was so severe that they literally changed the flag to, to, to a flag that was more like
00:33:10.260
I mean, there's a reason I have it up in the office is, um, is because right.
00:33:18.360
Like during the Floyd riots, they went to, um, our Capitol, obviously in Minnesota, you
00:33:26.520
Um, but what we, the next best thing was we had in front of the state Capitol, uh, a
00:33:37.820
A bunch of BLM guys came and they tore that thing down and right.
00:33:45.040
Paul police just stood there and watched them just watch me.
00:33:47.100
They could have cuffed every single one of them and stopped them.
00:33:50.140
Uh, and Tim walls basically said, no, this is good.
00:33:53.260
Um, and you know, he's, he's posted on social media several times about how we need to change
00:34:05.040
And he, uh, he talks about like in Mankato where I went to college, where he's, um, he's
00:34:12.020
This is the site of, uh, you know, the mass execution of 38, uh, Sioux warriors after the
00:34:19.600
And, and every year Mankato is also very liberal town.
00:34:23.000
Uh, college town, like there's all this weeping and gnashing of teeth that they have this
00:34:27.240
great, uh, celebration of the horrible injustice that was done to these Dakota Indians.
00:34:32.000
And nobody has any idea that, well, actually those 38 Dakota, they're guilty of murdering
00:34:40.080
children and raping, you know, mass gang raping women.
00:34:44.740
They didn't write in the, in the liberal mind and Tim walls, his mind.
00:34:48.000
And, and it, they think that, oh, they, you know, these horrible white people just went
00:34:53.900
and rounded up a bunch of Indians and hung them for no reason at all.
00:34:57.200
Just, just picking some apples off a tree one day.
00:35:07.880
Columbus is statue of being torn down in Minnesota because well, don't you know, Columbus is responsible
00:35:15.880
And, and all of it is they hate our history, our heritage.
00:35:19.880
The reason they, they got rid of this flag is because right on it is pictured, um, uh,
00:35:37.860
That's where all the reservations, most of them ended up being.
00:35:41.300
And so this is this horrible, terrible injustice.
00:35:44.620
That white people came in and settled Minnesota and stole it from the American Indians.
00:35:53.080
We're going to replace that flag, which is representative of the history of Minnesota,
00:36:00.280
uh, with a flag that looks eerily similar to all of the regional and national flags of Somalia.
00:36:20.840
You're some crazy right-wing tinfoil hack conspiracy theorist.
00:36:23.940
And it's like, dude, it's, it's light blue with a star on it.
00:36:29.240
The current project in Florida is to move all of Haiti here.
00:36:33.080
Um, so that's an exciting thing, uh, that we're, we're getting to enjoy as well.
00:36:36.840
So, uh, hopefully we don't, we don't change the flag, but, uh, but I, I, so let's, let's talk
00:36:43.520
a little bit more about, uh, Minnesota as, um, I, I guess we call it a sanctuary, uh, state
00:36:51.340
for, uh, for childhood transition, uh, because people hear this and they think it's overblown.
00:36:57.640
You know, they think, oh, no, one's really doing this.
00:37:00.540
No, one's really applying these laws, but there are already multiple, uh, instances.
00:37:05.900
You know, we just had a story out of Washington DC, uh, where, uh, and so many of these children,
00:37:10.840
as you pointed out in your post are, um, autistic or somewhere on the spectrum.
00:37:18.220
They're, they're not completely comfortable in their skin in the first place.
00:37:21.540
And I've had a number of friends in my real life on this track.
00:37:25.620
You know, I knew a lot of, you know, people who are on the spectrum and a couple of them,
00:37:31.320
They didn't know how to handle social situations.
00:37:33.220
There's a lot of pressure, uh, and they, and they decided to go through this, this process,
00:37:37.720
you know, and, uh, it, you know, it's devastating to them, to their families.
00:37:42.100
You know, I know families that have been destroyed by this, uh, their children, you know, one,
00:37:46.660
one guy was a father of multiple boys, you know, and it's just, uh, it's a horrible thing.
00:37:52.660
And not only is, uh, obviously the democratic party encouraging this as a solution, uh, but
00:37:58.760
now you have a case in which, uh, the states are setting themselves up as basically just
00:38:04.340
mills for this, you know, come, come here and we'll make sure your parents can't come
00:38:10.700
If you, you know, if your guidance counselor, when you're 12 decides, oh, I think you're
00:38:15.520
transgender, you can run here and we'll, we'll protect you from your parents.
00:38:19.840
And I've warned people about this, you know, this has been something I've told people over
00:38:23.120
again, civil rights law will be used to steal your children from you.
00:38:28.340
And, and, and now you have a state where this has been enabled.
00:38:31.900
And this is the reason that you find, you know, like you said, you dealt with the taxes
00:38:35.800
and you dealt with the crime and you dealt with all, all this other stuff.
00:38:39.660
But when you, this is the line, like this, you know, that you cannot live in a place
00:38:46.040
So can you explain kind of the constellation of legal, a couple of illegal procedures that
00:38:55.500
So, I mean, among them it is, they, they, I mean, the first law that they passed is, is
00:39:03.560
just in terms of like determining custody, right?
00:39:08.560
And, and so they set it up for situations like there was the one in Texas and a few other
00:39:14.460
states where you have a one parent, a custody dispute between two parents being divorced.
00:39:21.880
And one of them takes the child and flees to Minnesota say to have them transitioned, right?
00:39:30.120
Even if the state where they had the original jurisdiction, if they're in Texas or Florida
00:39:35.540
or Tennessee or something like that, and that state says, all right, actually little Johnny
00:39:45.380
This, this sets up the law essentially saying no, because, because they don't have access
00:39:51.820
to gender affirming care in the state that they're in, they can remain here in custody.
00:39:57.580
You'll either be granted to the parent or to the state.
00:40:00.320
And yeah, the, the, the scary phrase, the terrifying phrase in the, in the article you sent me to,
00:40:05.340
to, to kind of prep for this was temporary emergency jurisdiction, right?
00:40:14.900
What that means is we don't care what the law is.
00:40:18.300
If you're here, we have declared unilaterally that we have jurisdiction and there is nothing
00:40:24.360
you can do about it until all the important decisions have already been made.
00:40:28.600
So we're essentially just destroying any, any, uh, any, uh, process of law, any due process
00:40:35.120
is actually out the window or, or even like, like federal constitutional law, right?
00:40:41.240
Where, uh, things like this, where the original state had jurisdiction and right, if you flee
00:40:47.940
that state, right, they have to be extradited, right?
00:40:50.540
This is normally what has happened when there are custody disputes and a parent runs off with
00:40:55.700
That child's going to come back and the state, you know, a police or whatever, they'll, they'll
00:41:01.560
But in this case, right, they're just thumbing their nose at constitutional procedure.
00:41:05.980
I mean, it's something that, that should ultimately be resolved by the federal government, but right.
00:41:11.780
If Kamala Harris and Tim Walzwin, of course, it's not going to be, if anything, they'll, they'll
00:41:17.220
pass laws where they will make this the case throughout the entire country that, uh, then
00:41:23.460
they'll use, like you said earlier, like you use the civil rights act to do it right.
00:41:27.220
That, uh, transgenderism is a protected class, even in children.
00:41:31.220
And they have a right to gender affirming care.
00:41:33.340
They have a greater right than even what their parents wishes are.
00:41:36.160
Who are we, who are you protecting these rights against your parents?
00:41:40.220
Like that's the, the, the state has the right to enter your family at any time.
00:41:44.900
And this is, you know, there's a lot of reasons why they're pushing the transgender movement,
00:41:49.460
but this is the key one is it destroys the final barrier between state power and anyone.
00:41:56.260
Because if, if a parent doesn't have the right to protect their children from mutilation,
00:42:07.060
And, and, and so it is, you know, it's a terrifying thing.
00:42:10.060
It's terrifying thing, you know, for, for our family, you know, personally, my, my eldest
00:42:16.500
And I I've known for several years now that, that the percentage of people who are transgender
00:42:26.820
It's, it's extremely high and it, it, it makes you think, oh, I wonder if that particular category
00:42:33.460
of people is being targeted for grooming into this.
00:42:37.860
And, and it makes sense why, like, like you were saying earlier, right?
00:42:41.060
You have, you have, you know, children who are not comfortable socially.
00:42:46.340
They know that they, um, are awkward and kind of weird.
00:42:50.180
And if they do this one little thing, then immediately they snap their fingers and now
00:43:02.500
As somebody who taught high school or, you know, taught public school, I saw this all
00:43:07.620
the time is, you know, kids who were very awkward, didn't know what to do.
00:43:12.900
They know the minute that they declare themselves transgender, they have a magical bubble.
00:43:18.260
And that magical bubble stops all of the bullying, all of the picking, because I don't
00:43:26.740
They know that if they mess with a kid who's declared themselves trans, they're getting
00:43:33.620
They could beat someone to death in the parking lot and they would get in less trouble than
00:43:40.100
And I say that from direct experience, like I know kids who got in less trouble for literally
00:43:47.460
punching a vice principal than they would have for insulting a trans kid.
00:43:53.060
And so, so yeah, this is a, this is a magical shield that the awkward kid can place in front
00:44:01.380
Like you said, if a kid is having a tough time, you know, and of course, you know, there
00:44:05.300
should be, the school should do a much better job of, you know, protecting those kids as they are.
00:44:11.060
But they know that this is the, this politically correct shield is the one that will actually
00:44:17.300
And so they pick it up because it's the only thing that stops the harassment.
00:44:22.820
And so, right, knowing that, and then knowing that, all right, if, if your child is tempted
00:44:29.380
in that way to, um, to have this, this magic bullet that they, they now are socially acceptable,
00:44:38.740
If, if that's on the table, that's around, and then now the legal apparatus exists for
00:44:45.300
That, that is not any, anywhere that we could possibly live.
00:44:50.020
We can't live in a, in a place like this where, where we're just rolling the dice every single
00:44:55.060
day, uh, that we live in this state that one day we'll get a knock on the door from CPS.
00:45:01.300
And, and they're, they're coming to get my kid.
00:45:10.900
We want to remain a family and, and, and I don't want to be put in a position where
00:45:16.260
then I would have to act in, in a way that a, that a father should.
00:45:20.180
And I was going to say as a father, yeah, yeah, I don't, I don't want to do that.
00:45:25.380
I don't want to go to prison, uh, defending my child, uh, if I can avoid it.
00:45:36.420
And, um, I, you know, that's all I'm going to say there.
00:45:38.820
Uh, but you know, the state does not own your child.
00:45:41.460
I don't care what's on a piece of paper, um, anywhere.
00:45:44.820
Um, and so, uh, that said, like you said, you, you've been forced into making a decision
00:45:50.020
that you didn't want to, but I think the decision that you have made is in the interest
00:45:54.340
of your family and importantly sets you up for, even though you have to, so, you know,
00:46:00.100
this community, uh, sets you up in a situation where in, in some ways it's a little bit of
00:46:07.300
Like we are, we are not going west anymore, but we have to reclaim territory.
00:46:14.900
Uh, once again, you know, America is a frontier nation.
00:46:20.900
Uh, but, but now is a scenario in which we have the great sort, right?
00:46:25.780
And a lot of people like you have moved to states like mine or Texas or, you know, Tennessee
00:46:31.140
or others where they can, uh, build communities and concentrate with people of like, uh, mind.
00:46:38.660
And that is really critical because there was a massive shift for a long time.
00:46:43.060
Part of the deracinated, uh, you know, thing that, you know, everyone is, is, is transient
00:46:48.660
meant that people felt like they could live really in whatever state they wanted to.
00:46:55.700
It doesn't really matter if you live in Connecticut or Florida or California or Texas, it's all
00:47:01.940
You know, you're, you're, you, you teleport there through an airport and really outside
00:47:06.420
of a few cuisine changes and some climate, it's all, it's all pretty much the same.
00:47:10.500
But now we are recognizing that, uh, you have to be, uh, in a community that community manners
00:47:17.620
matters that moral vision matters that shared, uh, religion and, and, and, uh, tradition matter.
00:47:26.500
It's not enough to just like, you know, fist bump each other online.
00:47:29.780
Every time you slam a good meme up on the, on the timeline, though, I appreciate those.
00:47:33.860
Uh, but, but that you really do have to be in a scenario where we are sorting back into
00:47:41.140
And that's why a lot of liberals are fleeing Florida because they said, they look at the,
00:47:46.100
the, the, the laws here and say, we can't live this way.
00:47:49.780
And you're looking at the laws in Minnesota and saying, we can't live this way.
00:47:53.300
And in, in, in a way without any declarations of, you know, secession or anything dramatic,
00:48:00.420
people are moving back into geographic blocks of social organization in a much more traditional
00:48:10.100
I mean, that, that is, that, that's another component to this too, is right.
00:48:16.180
As refugees to somewhere else that, that might be better.
00:48:19.700
Uh, we are going to somewhere where we can do, do the, the thing we wanted to do here,
00:48:29.540
We can be in a place where our children and grandchildren and great-grandchildren can also
00:48:40.180
Um, and, and to be around people that, that think the same way we do that, that have the
00:48:46.260
same patterns and habits of life that, that we do.
00:48:49.940
And so, yeah, that's what, that's what the plan is to, to have in, in Tennessee.
00:48:54.340
Um, I got, you know, connected to, uh, Ridge Runner and new founding to the guys there and
00:49:06.100
I wanted to, uh, leave, uh, leave here and go, you know, plant a church in this town and,
00:49:13.220
and begin worshiping there and, and, and being part of, of life with, with all of my friends.
00:49:20.020
Like, I mean, many, many of my friends online, right.
00:49:22.500
The ones where we're in group chats and we, you know, share each other's memes and all
00:49:30.580
Well, we want to have that in real life where instead of, you know, just laughing at each
00:49:38.660
We, uh, we want to be able to laugh at each other's jokes, uh, on the, on our front porches.
00:49:43.860
And, uh, and the ability of, of these guys of, of Ridge Runner and new founding to, to facilitate
00:49:50.420
that, to, to make that kind of thing happen where now, now you can be with all of your friends
00:49:54.580
in real life and, and do life together, have, you know, all your kids grow up together and, and
00:50:00.180
they can be friends and, and, you know, build businesses in these places where, you know,
00:50:05.940
we can hire each other's kids and, and have, you know, provided income for their families
00:50:11.220
when they get older and they can all, we can all live in the same place.
00:50:14.260
They don't have to go off to some other part of the country either.
00:50:23.700
A hundred years ago, everyone just had, that was the default position, right?
00:50:26.340
You grow up, you live in the same town as your parents, your grandparents, all your
00:50:29.380
cousins, and you have all the same friends you've always had.
00:50:33.780
And then your kids grow up in the same place and, and all of these things, all the traditions,
00:50:38.180
all these tiny little parts of life get passed down from generation to generation.
00:50:47.780
And unfortunately it takes a tremendous amount of effort, right?
00:50:54.420
The thing that everyone just took for granted, it just was the way everything was.
00:51:02.580
Now you have to, now you have to move across the country.
00:51:08.340
You might have to not take a job where you get a big promotion in order to stay in a particular
00:51:18.580
I, I think those things are, are not only important for our own personal wellbeing, our family safety,
00:51:24.020
um, all, all of those things, but, but also, um, like for political purposes as well.
00:51:32.100
Like if you were able to take, you know, even a few hundred people that all think the same
00:51:36.340
way and have all the same, uh, ideas about, uh, right.
00:51:44.420
You, you, you could consolidate them in the same place, right?
00:51:47.460
You can exercise far, far more political power, even with a few hundred or a few thousand people
00:51:52.660
than you can on your own, widely dispersed across the entire country.
00:51:58.980
And, and so to be able to do that, like that, that it might be, I mean, maybe it sounds extreme
00:52:04.580
to say this, but it might be the difference between life and death for a lot of people in
00:52:20.340
By the way, we have not done all the theory, but, uh, you know, we, you have to hear this
00:52:29.380
And what they want to hear is, well, you just elect Trump and that fixes everything.
00:52:33.620
Or maybe, oh, well, you know, dress up as a storm trooper, hang out with some feds,
00:52:37.700
you know, get it, give MSNBC some ammunition, right?
00:52:42.660
Here's the real answer to that question is what you are talking about is creating the
00:52:51.860
In every sense of the word, like you said, the politics comes, but the politics comes
00:52:57.540
not because you started with, oh, well, we're, we're making a politics club.
00:53:03.860
You're creating a shared community with shared values, moral vision, traditions,
00:53:09.060
heritages, these things build on top of each other.
00:53:11.540
And then the politics emerges from that way of being from that love.
00:53:16.180
And because it's concentrated, because it is organic, because it has deep ties to a place
00:53:25.460
And then if something goes sideways, if things get real, you're still organized.
00:53:36.180
And I think the, the, the thing that's going to matter in the future is going to be the
00:53:41.460
willingness of people to build outside of the system.
00:53:45.220
You know, I say this all the time, but I'm going to give the speech one more time,
00:53:48.340
just because I think it's important for people to hear.
00:53:50.180
You know, my buddy Ernst is in conscious caracal on Twitter.
00:53:55.860
Obviously he's part of the solidarity movement there, the Afrikaners.
00:54:00.580
And they have to do everything themselves because the government hates them because they,
00:54:05.220
you know, they're, they're trying to destroy their culture.
00:54:07.620
They're trying to trying to destroy their way of life.
00:54:14.900
They have to take care of, you know, the sanitation.
00:54:17.220
They have to make sure that they have educational opportunities, job opportunities.
00:54:24.180
They make sure that everyone can move there, live there, sustain their life there,
00:54:28.420
work as close as possible, be educated there, marry there and be buried there.
00:54:33.940
Like the, the, if you, if you really know, you know, uh, where my dad's from,
00:54:38.900
there are generations and generations and generations of my family in the same cemetery,
00:54:45.620
And it's one of those scenarios where when you build that kind of community that is not
00:54:50.580
relying on the system that is not relying on everything else, then whatever comes, whatever
00:54:55.860
happens, whether Trump transforms the country makes America great again.
00:54:59.540
Well, guess what you're at the spearhead because you have already founded a community
00:55:04.100
And if things fall apart and things go Mad Max, well, guess what you've already got
00:55:08.260
a community that is ready to figure out how to work together, protect each other, to be off
00:55:11.940
the grid, whatever it is, whatever the scenario is, you have the social capital, you have those bonds.
00:55:17.380
And so that's why I think what you're doing is so important.
00:55:20.020
And what new founding and other, you know, other, uh, groups that are looking to build
00:55:24.660
that kind of infrastructure are doing is so important exit and the old glory club.
00:55:28.900
There are, there are many options for people who want to get involved.
00:55:32.260
You don't have to sit around online and complain about how, oh, there's just nothing to do.
00:55:38.980
You can make things happen in the real world, but you're going to have to work.
00:55:42.020
It's not just throwing a switch on a, you know, on a voting machine somewhere.
00:55:51.860
Well, is there anything else before we transition to the questions of the people,
00:55:55.140
make sure you tell everybody about the book and where they can find you all that.
00:55:59.540
Well, I, I wrote a book last year, uh, called the Boniface option.
00:56:03.460
And I mean, I talk about some of these things in there, like building, building parallel institutions
00:56:12.500
Having, having friends, like that's, that's part of, that's part of all of this is
00:56:18.340
It, it's way more important to have lots of friends and people you trust all around
00:56:29.620
A big Twitter account with thousands of people following you or, or to have like
00:56:35.620
the rights, um, the right politics or the right theory or anything like that.
00:56:39.620
Like the thing we need more than anything else is just people, right.
00:56:42.580
Numbers in, in the same area altogether, uh, that have the same goals.
00:56:49.780
Building these things, being part of this is, is part and parcel with, with that book.
00:56:54.820
And so that, that book, yeah, it's done really well.
00:56:57.140
I, I'm sure, you know, uh, at least some of, uh, some of your listeners have read it and,
00:57:01.220
and, uh, um, and others, you know, I would, I would encourage them to read it.
00:57:05.540
Cause it's, it's about, um, a lot of the kinds of things you talk about on your show all the time,
00:57:10.260
About how dysfunctional and destructive are our entire social makeup is right.
00:57:19.220
Instead of read the crazy wild kind of boomer tier conspiracy theories, right.
00:57:24.740
Oh, the world, the world economic forum is going to take over.
00:57:27.860
They're going to put us all in a pod and make us eat bugs.
00:57:30.420
And we're going to live in this horrid dystopia.
00:57:33.540
It's like, well, dude, if you, if you went back a hundred years in time and described every
00:57:38.500
part of our way of life today, everything that's mainstream and normal.
00:57:46.340
They'd be like, did we lose some kind of major war to some, are we enslaved to some?
00:57:56.020
I mean, if you tell them that, yeah, you know, like 30% of American kids will be born to married
00:58:02.820
It might be higher than might be 40, but like not the overwhelming majority of that, which is, was normal.
00:58:08.580
You, you have, um, you know, transgenderism is a thing.
00:58:12.820
Uh, homosexuality is totally acceptable throughout the entire country.
00:58:18.260
Like every part of our society that's completely messed up.
00:58:25.300
Every part of the things that we think are, are mostly normal.
00:58:29.300
We think they're bad, but we've kind of, kind of accepted this as part of our life.
00:58:33.300
Now they would look at and think this is, you're like living in the matrix.
00:58:36.900
You're like living in, um, in like children of men, some kind of this horrible, horrible,
00:58:42.020
dystopian movie, something like Blade Runner, right?
00:58:45.140
So the question then is, right, since we live in that, right, what can one man do, right?
00:58:50.420
What can you as an individual do to combat these things, right?
00:58:54.900
That's, that's the question that was on my mind that I devoted a lot of time to writing
00:59:00.180
And so, you know, if you're interested in those things, yeah, check that book out,
00:59:06.260
And, and as far as finding me, I'm on Twitter at Boniface option.
00:59:09.860
And I, I do a show with another guy with a CJ angle.
00:59:12.980
I think he's been on your show before too, or, uh, uh, we do a, we do a podcast contramundum
00:59:19.380
every week, usually on Fridays, uh, do live stream and, and talk about political things.
00:59:24.100
We, we also like to talk about theory, uh, even though we are not theory cells, uh, we,
00:59:29.060
I mean, CJ is definitely a theory cell, but yeah, okay.
00:59:32.500
I balance, I balance him out a little bit, but, uh, he, he's also a man of action.
00:59:36.820
Don't, don't tell him short, uh, cause he's moving to Tennessee as well.
00:59:43.460
I am, I am obviously a theory cell, but yeah, I know, I know.
00:59:46.980
But at any rate, like we, we, we get into theory a little bit, but we also like to talk
00:59:53.380
So, uh, yeah, you can check us out there usually, you know, Thursdays at, or Fridays
00:59:57.620
rather at four central, um, at, uh, contramundum.
01:00:02.020
My, my favorite maneuver is to bring on, uh, podcast do is one at a time, you know,
01:00:06.260
make sure, make, make sure, you know, half of geo improved, you know, then half of your
01:00:15.940
Cause you can't, you can't just let bog go by yourself.
01:00:18.500
You need, you know, you gotta have, um, you gotta have Merrick to yell at him, uh,
01:00:25.140
All right, guys, let's head over to the questions of people real quick here.
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Uh, creeper weirdo says the embodiment of the boomer truth regime is a bad guy.
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Uh, gray duck here says in 2023, Minnesota legislature amended the human, uh, Minnesota
01:00:45.300
human rights act to add gender identity as a protected category without expanding the
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Uh, Andrew mentioned that, uh, again, just terrible, um, obviously bigoted, obviously
01:00:57.220
targeted to destroy, uh, religious communities and institutions.
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Um, and yeah, that, like I said, that, that would be enough for me right there.
01:01:05.460
It's like, Oh, can't, can't have a religious institution in this state.
01:01:09.700
Well then we can't be here, but, uh, so that they are, they're definitely making themselves
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in his spot inhospitable, uh, to anybody, uh, right of, of Mao over, over there.
01:01:19.300
And that's why the great sword is, is occurring.
01:01:21.380
That's why guys like elite human capital, like Andrew Isker is, uh, relocating itself,
01:01:26.740
uh, to, to more worthy states, uh, creeper weirdo says again, I find your guys attacking
01:01:38.420
Uh, forging anvil here says, Andrew has housework to do.
01:01:46.900
I have, uh, despite the peer pressure, I have not succumbed to the right wing, uh, addiction
01:01:52.740
Uh, you know, maybe one day, but I'm, I'm holding out so far.
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Cooper weirdo says, uh, that's a good, uh, uh, champion.
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I know how, uh, no democracy is fake and non heterosexual, but Oren, come the con.
01:02:28.600
Uh, well, I mean, they were, they were gunning for Shapiro, right?
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Uh, and then I guess he turned out to be too Jewish for the left at this point, which is
01:02:39.660
Or maybe he just saw that there was a sinking ship.
01:02:43.060
I mean, it might've been the, yeah, it might've been the Israel thing.
01:02:45.380
I had heard that he himself is the one that pulled out and didn't want to.
01:02:54.060
It's like, oh, we don't know what a guy that volunteered for the IDF.
01:02:58.260
But, and, and there's, there's some creepy stuff too.
01:03:00.440
Like he, uh, helped to exonerate somebody that almost, that was a family friend that,
01:03:06.300
uh, uh, this guy who had like apparently allegedly had murdered his girlfriend.
01:03:12.760
And it was ruled a suicide because she got stabbed like 22 times.
01:03:18.880
And, and like Shapiro was involved in labeling it a suicide.
01:03:22.840
I'm sure it just tripped, you know, but I mean, even, even, yeah, even like, I remember
01:03:28.740
after the, the horrific, you know, uh, Biden Trump debate horrific for, for Biden, uh,
01:03:36.700
my, my, I, I was thinking about something my wife had said a few days earlier.
01:03:40.060
Cause she was like, Andrew, I just noticed that, that Tim Walls has been on like meet
01:03:44.140
the press and good morning America and the today's show and done the whole circuit.
01:03:54.060
And he's going, doing this tour about how he signed this bill to give every child in
01:04:01.880
And, uh, so they were touting what a wonderful guy he is.
01:04:05.420
And she's like, there's something going on here.
01:04:08.260
So my wife, uh, I think she's probably watching right now.
01:04:16.000
And, and so like, after the debate, like CJ and I were doing a live stream and I said,
01:04:20.400
Hey, like if they dump Biden and it's not going to be Kamala, right.
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A dark horse in this is my governor, Tim Walls.
01:04:28.560
And like all these people are like, no way, not a chance.
01:04:34.340
And the worst part is like, I was looking on predicted and all the betting sites, uh,
01:04:38.840
once she was announced as the fill in for Biden, right.
01:04:41.400
To see like, when's he going to appear on the boards to be vice president.
01:04:45.420
Cause I was going to put maybe a hundred bucks down, you know, uh, better, you know,
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So I don't even know how to do it or log into any of these things.
01:04:56.180
And then, uh, he never appeared on the board except for like maybe a day beforehand for
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And if I'd been on my game, I would have found that I could have turned that a hundred
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bucks into like 10,000, you know, could have retired off of a waltz.
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I mean, it was, it was pretty tightly kept secret.
01:05:16.920
I mean, it wasn't until like, yeah, two or three days beforehand that the media started
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circulating his name as a, as a possible candidate only once.
01:05:23.900
Like it, it made it seem like Shapiro was the guy, like there was the, the Philadelphia
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mayor, mayor who like leaked out this, uh, congratulations video, which I think was also
01:05:34.560
purposeful because then all the oppo got dumped on Shapiro and they were able to be like,
01:05:40.540
Um, and so anyway, like, uh, I, I was, I was kind of expecting it a little bit.
01:05:47.400
Like I knew that, that walls was very well thought of at least internally in the, in the
01:05:53.620
I mean, as far as like, I mean, obviously I'm not involved in those kinds of conversations
01:05:57.360
or anything, but, but like, you know, you hear these things that they really, really
01:06:01.200
like him and they don't like him because he's such a wonderful guy and he's really a statesman
01:06:11.260
Like he's not a pretty face and well-spoken or anything like that.
01:06:17.380
He does their bidding and he doesn't ask questions.
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And, um, and so I, I knew that and, and he was, he was great for them, uh, in 2020,
01:06:31.580
And he helped, I mean, the fortification that took place in Minnesota, uh, he played
01:06:37.100
a, a significant role in that in, you know, having mail on, like there, there are a bunch
01:06:42.560
of precincts in Minnesota where there is no in-person balloting whatsoever.
01:06:47.280
And it's not, it used to be, they would do that in like the iron range.
01:06:50.660
That's really sparsely populated where you only have like maybe, you know, a few dozen
01:06:56.720
people in a precinct where it's like, rather than keeping a polling place open all day, we'll
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Well, they adopted that for large cities like Blue Earth County, Mankato, where Wolves is
01:07:07.060
There is no polling place anywhere for a person to, to cast a paper ballot.
01:07:15.620
He has made Minnesota this very fortified state where Trump comes here to campaign.
01:07:22.640
And I mean, Trump nearly won Minnesota back in 2016.
01:07:26.120
Like that's, that was kind of like my claim to fame about like, oh, I've got really good
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political instincts because I, I was telling all of these, you know, Politico guys, right.
01:07:35.560
These not, not the magazine, but guys connected to the state legislature and involved in, in
01:07:42.060
And in like October of 2016, I'm like, Hey, I think Trump might win Minnesota.
01:07:46.600
If he doesn't win, he's at least going to come close.
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Like, there's no way you don't know anything, Andrew.
01:07:53.900
And I'm like, yeah, but like, I got an entire Facebook feed of guys I went to high school
01:07:59.060
with that are just, you know, blue collar dudes that did not care at all about politics
01:08:05.620
And all they do all day long is share Trump memes.
01:08:09.340
And, and I knew like something was up, like all these guys are going to come out and vote
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They've never voted in a primary election or a general election.
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And he, he lost Minnesota by like 20,000 votes in 2016.
01:08:28.860
Like he almost won this state, but since then they've, they very well fortified it in 2020
01:08:39.840
But, uh, you know, hopefully my wife's and my two votes will be the ones that when I hope
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We're going to, yeah, a nice, a nice parting gift.
01:08:50.360
Uh, Robert Weinsfeld says, uh, the running cat lady and cuckold it's auto fortified in
01:09:00.420
Well, like I said, no matter what happens, the answer is the same.
01:09:14.600
So then go build something, go do, go do something, do real politics in the, in the
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Build a community, you know, build its values, let the politics flow from it.
01:09:26.440
You know, that, that's what you need to be prepared for no matter how things go.
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And then Norwegian cross here says, uh, Norwegian here.
01:09:36.380
Uh, how, how do you describe, uh, Minnesotans political, uh, politics and faith compared
01:09:47.560
Is Minnesota cooked or is, is there a chance one day if, you know, it's, it hasn't driven
01:09:52.500
every conservative person out with, uh, their blue laws that they could eventually, uh,
01:10:03.720
So I'm a little bit familiar with like the lay of the land in Europe and, and, and you
01:10:08.100
can kind of like, I, I pay attention to European politics a little bit and I've seen, you know,
01:10:12.860
like the AFD, uh, grow and many of the right-wing parties in Europe, uh, start to gain some
01:10:19.140
Um, but, uh, you know, Minnesota, I mean, temperamentally is very, very similar, I think.
01:10:26.340
Um, the, I mean, somebody was saying in the chat that, that Minnesota nice is very, very
01:10:34.940
Um, one of the difficulties that we've had here is that we, you could never have like
01:10:44.980
Because that, that's like the antidote to somebody like walls, right.
01:10:48.160
Cause he's just this comically, this comical buffoon, this liar, right.
01:10:51.880
All he ever does is lie about everything and you could eviscerate a guy like that.
01:10:56.040
If you had like the cojones to do it, if you just said, Tim walls, you're a liar.
01:11:02.420
You, you say you're a command Sergeant major, you got demoted, right.
01:11:08.740
You've locked everybody in their homes for months on end while you let people burn down
01:11:13.520
Like if, if you went right at him and attacked him in this sort of Trumpian manner, uh, it
01:11:20.900
He would, he would wilt and he would get really angry, right.
01:11:25.740
If there is a debate between him and JD Vance, JD Vance would be a cool, cool collected customer,
01:11:33.000
He's very good communicator and he'll get under walls, his skin and walls is going to
01:11:40.380
You'll start foaming at the mouth and screaming, right.
01:11:45.260
And in Minnesota, no one was ever able to do that because the temperament of our people
01:11:53.040
You got to be respectful and respectable, right.
01:11:59.880
And it's like, no, the weeds is where everything is.
01:12:05.400
Uh, and, and, and, and Tim walls is the heel, right.
01:12:10.100
You got to be able to attack him and, and nobody does.
01:12:14.200
And now he's entered an environment where he is being attacked.
01:12:17.340
That's, that's the thing where it's like, all these people are seeing all the lies.
01:12:20.140
Like, I mean, there was one today where he just takes pictures of random dogs and calls
01:12:29.460
He lies and says that his children were conceived by IVF when actually they were not.
01:12:37.120
A totally different procedure that doesn't fertilize embryos.
01:12:46.320
I mean, and, and they're, they're the kind of lies where it's only like a pathological
01:12:52.520
Where a pathological liar is somebody that lies knowing the lie is just easily disprovable.
01:12:57.960
Like it'd be like me saying, no, there isn't a microphone in front of my face right now
01:13:01.440
when everybody in the whole world could see that there is one right in front of my face.
01:13:07.340
And in Minnesota, he can get, he can get away with it because no one is confrontational
01:13:13.700
here at all, except for maybe me and I'm leaving.
01:13:16.500
And like, no one, no one wants to confront him whatsoever.
01:13:22.260
And, and now he's in an environment where he is being confronted, where the gloves have
01:13:30.240
The, the media always covered for him here in Minnesota.
01:13:34.260
Um, and the media is still doing the same thing for him, you know, at large nationally,
01:13:39.000
but it doesn't matter as much anymore because right.
01:13:42.240
You have Trump, you have Vance, you have, right.
01:13:44.920
The, you, you have on, you have the online rights that does really good job of, of sussing
01:13:52.820
And, and he's now having his feet held to the fire, right.
01:13:56.120
I think part of it is like, why, why didn't they vet him?
01:14:00.860
Because none of these things that would have been an issue became an issue during his congressional
01:14:05.800
career and his career as governor, uh, because they could just sweep them all under the rug.
01:14:10.880
So they didn't even think about any of these lies, right.
01:14:13.180
They didn't have to, uh, none of it was an issue.
01:14:15.420
And, and now it is, and it's a, it's a huge vulnerability for him.
01:14:23.260
So yeah, like the temperament of Minnesotans, right.
01:14:25.440
And, and a question other people have had is like, can Minnesota be saved?
01:14:35.680
The, the problem with the GOP in Minnesota, I mean, I've said this many times before is
01:14:40.620
I'm familiar with a lot of the different state of lived in different States and seen how the,
01:14:45.280
the, you know, GOP in like Missouri and Idaho and other places operates.
01:14:50.100
And it's way more effective, way more organized.
01:14:52.480
They have things put together here in Minnesota.
01:14:56.900
The guy who replaced Tim Walz, uh, who's since passed away, uh, in Congress, uh, his wife,
01:15:06.120
Uh, it was, she became the, the head of the, uh, Minnesota GOP and was involved in all sorts
01:15:18.400
And, and there, there's zero desire to do anything.
01:15:21.600
It's, it's very much like Congress in general, where all, all of our representatives, um, the
01:15:27.980
GOP ones, all they care about is their committee assignments and bringing back grants to their
01:15:33.800
And, and that's what the caucus cares about is all right, but yeah, you're going to, you
01:15:40.900
That's whatever, but are we going to get our committee assignments so I can bring back some
01:15:50.180
There's, there's a handful of really good senators and, and, uh, representatives in Minnesota, but
01:15:59.560
And I don't, I don't foresee that changing at all because of the temperament of the people.
01:16:03.540
Like even, even conservative people, like in my town, all over my town, there are Trump
01:16:09.680
I haven't even seen a single Harris sign in the entire town.
01:16:27.560
But that's, that's like the basic function of government.
01:16:31.000
We expect you to do those things, but we also want you to like protect our children.
01:16:34.620
Like, Hey, why do we have, uh, tampons in the boys' bathroom in our high school?
01:16:52.720
Well, I'm glad that you are making that change.
01:16:55.420
I know that's rough and it's unfortunate that circumstances have forced you, but I think
01:17:00.620
part of the great sort is putting people in communities where they belong.
01:17:04.500
And it sounds like you are going to be in there and you're going to be in a place where
01:17:07.900
you can build that generational, you know, social capital that you were hoping that tradition
01:17:13.620
Um, and it's never fun to be the first one to have to strike out and do that, but I think
01:17:19.320
So I'm, I'm glad that that's, that's an option for you.
01:17:22.440
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