The Auron MacIntyre Show - Trump Admin Blocks Disaster Aid to Americans Over Israel

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00:00:47.880 All right, guys. So today we're going to be talking about a few different stories.

00:00:53.300 You may have heard, but there was, for a few hours at least, yesterday, the Trump administration decided that they were going to try to slip in something with their new emergency funding guidelines.

00:01:08.260 FEMA funds and these different disaster relief funds were going to get additional restrictions on how they were going to work.

00:01:16.120 And they tended to focus on two things. One of them is ending DEI, which is fantastic.

00:01:21.540 Of course, we want to end DEI. We want to end this undue discrimination towards Americans, especially white Americans.

00:01:29.120 But also in these new guidelines were restrictions on how you could feel about Israel, the way that different cities could interact, if they could boycott, if they could choose to do business or not,

00:01:41.100 with not just the state of Israel, but also businesses from Israel.

00:01:44.740 So we're going to be diving into the language about that. The Trump administration did eventually roll that back.

00:01:49.700 Maybe we're going to dive into the discussion there a little more.

00:01:53.880 Also, Jim Acosta has this terrible thing on where he was trying to use the dead child of a set of parents to try to do some digital necromancy

00:02:04.880 and extort people about over kind of gun rights and their feelings on the ability for someone to own a firearm.

00:02:12.160 That was, of course, ghoulish itself.

00:02:14.140 But it opens up a whole deep, dark pool of kind of what can happen with AI right now.

00:02:20.320 The technology is not good enough, I think, to fool most people, at least when it comes to their loved ones.

00:02:25.120 But one day it will be, and the implications of that are rather dark.

00:02:29.200 So we're going to dive into both of those stories.

00:02:31.700 But let's begin with the disaster relief efforts.

00:02:35.780 So let me bring this up real quick.

00:02:40.000 All right.

00:02:40.740 So as you can see here, these are some of the new guidelines that the Trump administration has issued.

00:02:46.220 Now, if you're not paying attention to every one of these back and forth that occur in different policy and the way that the Trump administration has rolled things out,

00:02:55.900 we've seen this a few times, especially when it came to the Trump administration's attempt to create carve-outs with deportations a little bit ago.

00:03:06.280 Obviously, we are looking for large-scale deportations.

00:03:09.540 And one of the critical ways to do that in order to bring safety and order and just law and order into the United States is to end the ability of employers to shelter illegal immigrants, hire illegal immigrants.

00:03:24.140 And the Trump administration had been doing some raids on a few employers, which was a big step.

00:03:29.820 It's one thing.

00:03:30.600 Don't get me wrong.

00:03:31.540 Go after the gang members first.

00:03:33.260 Get the worst criminals first.

00:03:35.220 Absolutely.

00:03:36.180 That's a winning strategy.

00:03:37.200 It's good optically.

00:03:38.200 It makes sense to ramp up the situation.

00:03:40.800 Obviously, you don't have all the officers you need and all the detention facilities you need.

00:03:45.060 So you have to be more particular early on when you're trying to do this.

00:03:48.980 But over time, if you're going to get serious, if you're really going to move people in large droves, you have to go after the employers.

00:03:56.800 Because, of course, there are a number of illegal immigrants who are criminals.

00:04:01.460 I mean, they're all criminals by definition.

00:04:03.080 That's what a legal immigrant means.

00:04:04.480 But there are those who have committed additional violent crimes, drug trafficking, sex trafficking, gang violence and activity, all these things.

00:04:13.200 You can go after them first.

00:04:14.460 But if you want to move the vast majority of immigrants out of the country, what you need to do is get rid of the infrastructure that basically incentivizes them to be here.

00:04:23.020 A lot of people laughed at the idea of self-deportations from Republicans in the past.

00:04:28.200 But this is a very real thing.

00:04:29.380 And we're already starting to see it to some extent.

00:04:32.580 The almost complete stop of illegal immigration into the country by the Trump administration at the border at this point is huge.

00:04:41.180 Again, I do not want to undersell this.

00:04:42.620 Please understand we're going to be criticizing the Trump administration at a decent amount in this stream.

00:04:47.980 But I want to tell you they are doing good things.

00:04:50.020 We have seen a huge drop in the number of people who are crossing the border in the United States.

00:04:56.640 I think it's one of the lowest numbers we've seen since like the 1960s.

00:05:00.900 It's amazing compared to the Biden administration that was letting in eight plus million people during their administration.

00:05:07.180 Obviously, this is a drastic change.

00:05:09.320 And it can't be undersold how important that is.

00:05:11.500 It's a very serious effort to stop the bleeding, one for which I am grateful.

00:05:16.460 However, we saw that the Trump administration attempted to then work in this thing after employers started to get a little angry about this.

00:05:24.080 Maybe some people started whispering in Trump's ear.

00:05:26.820 We started to see the Trump administration change its guidelines to say, well, actually, we might be protecting farmers and hospitality workers.

00:05:36.340 We'll be selective with how we're doing these deportations.

00:05:38.940 There was a large outcry from the community.

00:05:42.260 And these guidelines were ultimately changed.

00:05:45.080 So we've seen this a number of times where the Trump administration will kind of come out with a policy.

00:05:50.140 It doesn't jive with what people feel like is a true definition of America first, is really serving our interests, is ultimately supporting the people of the United States as it should.

00:06:01.160 And so instead, there's a large outcry.

00:06:04.620 And the Trump administration kind of rolls it back quietly.

00:06:08.220 A lot of people will get angry about that to say, oh, well, they should just do the right thing from the beginning.

00:06:12.160 I understand what you're saying, but ultimately, you know, this is this is for better or worse, kind of the ultimate populism.

00:06:19.220 Right. They put if they step out of line, they put out some kind of policy that ultimately is going to hurt America or is out of line with the American first ideology.

00:06:28.040 You have a large blowback. I always make this joke on Twitter.

00:06:33.100 Always chimp. Right. Like always get out there and make your voice known.

00:06:37.080 The loud people administration are listening.

00:06:39.720 There are a lot of people who are tuned into what's going on, what the public wants.

00:06:43.940 They're very sensitive to the base and what they're trying to say in certain areas.

00:06:48.360 And so if you get out there ahead of these things and make a lot of noise, they will often change.

00:06:53.380 Now, the question is always, did they really change or did they paperwork change?

00:06:57.860 Right. And that's what we're going to be investigating today because they can say, oh, well, we got rid of the guideline and it's fantastic that they got rid of the guideline.

00:07:04.820 But ultimately, are you still following it somewhere?

00:07:07.600 Like is someone saying, OK, yeah, technically we don't have it written down, but like wink, wink, nod, nod, you know, we obviously should be avoiding these.

00:07:16.920 We're not going to put a lot of pressure on farmers.

00:07:18.520 We're not going to put a lot of pressure on hotels.

00:07:20.800 And this is always the concern. Right.

00:07:22.460 Just because you said you rolled back the policy, does that mean it's actually happening?

00:07:27.920 So let's take a look at what they were trying to put into the guidelines when it comes to disaster relief.

00:07:33.840 Now, I want to make this clear. This this one's a little personal for me.

00:07:37.780 OK, and this one's personal for me because I live in South Florida.

00:07:41.480 I live in a community that has been hit by several hurricanes over the last five to eight years.

00:07:47.180 And it's been devastating. A lot of people have lost their homes.

00:07:50.920 A lot of people have lost loved ones.

00:07:53.560 A lot of people have had their lives ruined by these natural disasters.

00:07:56.900 You know, I have been in situations where I have had to, you know, basically go through chest high water to my house.

00:08:05.420 You know, don't have a roof for six months.

00:08:08.220 You know, very serious situations.

00:08:10.060 No power for a month.

00:08:11.780 You know, you're in pretty bad straits.

00:08:16.000 Right. Like civilization falls away really quickly when natural disasters strike.

00:08:20.980 And I know North Carolina also experienced this and famously did not receive the type of response that a lot of people felt was due to it.

00:08:28.560 So disaster relief relief is something I have experienced very directly.

00:08:32.500 I know what it's like to desperately be looking for the guy who can, you know, get your dog some food or, you know, get you some gasoline.

00:08:40.360 Make sure that you could get a generator to the house and, you know, run run a refrigerator for a few days.

00:08:46.840 This kind of thing, you know, I have experienced this firsthand and have done so several times.

00:08:53.380 I have been on the ground reporting, interviewing FEMA workers, you know, talking to people who have lost their homes as a journalist in my area.

00:09:01.480 So, again, I've seen all of this upfront firsthand.

00:09:04.340 And so it really matters.

00:09:05.980 Now, a lot of people might say, well, maybe that's not the government's job.

00:09:08.860 Maybe that's not the federal government.

00:09:10.000 Whatever.

00:09:10.440 You know, we'll have that debate later.

00:09:11.560 The point is, if there's a few things that the government is really expected to do by most people, it's handle things like a giant natural disaster to be involved at that time.

00:09:22.680 So let's take a look at the restrictions that they were trying to put on disaster relief funding.

00:09:28.740 All right.

00:09:28.940 It says recipients must comply with all applicable federal anti-discrimination laws material to the government's payments decisions for purposes of 31 USC, you know, subsection, whatever.

00:09:40.140 So what they're saying, if you want to get the funding, you need to subscribe to anti-discrimination laws.

00:09:46.140 Now, this is the same mechanism that is, of course, used for, like, civil rights restrictions, right?

00:09:51.780 We can't technically force you to do some of this stuff.

00:09:56.620 However, we're going to hold funding hostage until you do.

00:09:59.920 The left has done this for many, many decades when it comes to all kinds of civil rights law.

00:10:05.000 The Trump administration is trying to, in theory, use it the other way.

00:10:08.020 Now, I have pretty serious problems with the Civil Rights Act in its current incarnation and everything that has come after the 1965 or 64 Civil Rights Act.

00:10:18.780 Whatever you feel, however you feel ultimately about the original intent of the law, I think a lot of people have positive understandings of what the law was supposed to do

00:10:28.020 and don't like the problem that the law was intended to solve.

00:10:30.980 But ultimately, whatever it was has become this giant Leviathan that reaches into a lot of people's everyday life.

00:10:38.920 And so I ultimately think that we're better off dismantling big parts of it rather than we are trying to use it for our own purposes.

00:10:46.860 However, this is the way that Trump administration is going with it, and at least it's going the direction of trying to use it for our own purposes in theory, right?

00:10:55.620 So I'm not initially 100% against this, even though I don't like the overall architecture of what's going on here.

00:11:04.120 So what is it defining these anti-discrimination laws as?

00:11:08.140 What does that look like?

00:11:08.960 Number one, definitions as used in this clause.

00:11:11.800 A, DEI means diversity, equity, and inclusion.

00:11:16.100 B, DEIA means diversity, equity, inclusion, and accessibility.

00:11:21.220 So these are kind of the basic things that they're looking out for.

00:11:25.720 They recognize that this DEI framework is being used to discriminate against Americans, usually white Americans, though sometimes others like Asians.

00:11:37.240 But those are the main group being discriminated.

00:11:41.800 All right, guys, hopefully we're back there.

00:11:46.420 Can everyone hear me chat?

00:11:47.840 Let me know if you can hear me if I am back for you here.

00:11:53.120 Unfortunately, we have a pretty bad storm in the area, and so Internet was down.

00:12:01.520 But we are back.

00:12:03.240 Looks like we're back.

00:12:04.320 Okay, so people are saying they can hear me.

00:12:06.380 The excitement of live streaming, guys.

00:12:08.360 You never know what's going to happen.

00:12:10.520 Really bad thunderstorms in Florida on the afternoon is nothing new.

00:12:15.220 So not surprising.

00:12:17.740 Kind of amazing.

00:12:18.520 It's the first time that ever has happened like that.

00:12:22.340 But glad we're back.

00:12:23.320 All right.

00:12:23.760 So like I was saying, glad to see the anti-DEI allowance in here, right?

00:12:32.060 We want to make sure that DEI is not used to discriminate against white Americans or other Americans in the United States.

00:12:37.960 And we're saying you cannot discriminate against these groups if you do in this manner.

00:12:43.820 You can't use this DEI framework.

00:12:45.340 They're not going to name the group, obviously.

00:12:46.740 We all kind of know, but we're not allowed to say, I guess.

00:12:49.360 You know, so we have this framework, and we make sure that you cannot discriminate against these groups in this manner.

00:12:56.700 Okay, fine.

00:12:57.640 You know, again, I am totally okay.

00:13:00.640 I totally understand why we're doing this this way, right?

00:13:04.720 I don't like withholding disaster funding.

00:13:07.760 I think it's really critical in these important situations.

00:13:11.040 However, I do understand, you know, that these are pain points, and the pain points allow you to change what's going on in these situations.

00:13:22.320 They allow you to bring pressure against those that otherwise would be discriminated against your allies.

00:13:26.660 And so sometimes you've got to play hardball, and that's just how it is with the disaster funding here.

00:13:32.180 Then we get to DEI here, and it says discriminatory prohibited boycott means refusing to deal, cutting commercial relations or otherwise limiting commercial relations to specifically with Israeli companies or with companies doing business in or with Israel or authorized or licensed by or organized under the laws of Israel to do business.

00:13:57.160 So there's this, you know, BDS movement, as it's often called, the boycott, divest, and sanction movement against Israel.

00:14:05.440 A lot of people, especially on the left for a long time, have opposed Israel.

00:14:08.960 They don't like the way that they're doing things.

00:14:11.020 They've had an organized movement to try to stop people from ultimately putting their money in, that kind of thing, to Israel.

00:14:18.780 And so the whole movement is basically like this protest against Israel through a lot of these blue cities or even states.

00:14:27.880 They'll draft these large policies.

00:14:30.920 Now, conversely, there are a lot of states across the United States, mostly red states, who have anti-BDS decisions that they make.

00:14:41.220 They have these requirements at the state level that everyone who's going to do business with the state has to basically be willing to also do business with Israel.

00:14:50.800 This is unfortunately also something that my governor, Ron DeSantis, put into legislation here in Florida.

00:14:57.700 So this is the law in Florida as well.

00:15:00.400 Now, the way that this is worded is very concerning, right?

00:15:05.400 You might say, but Oren, I thought we were just using, we're fine using, you know, this law to push back against bad things that the left is doing, right?

00:15:16.040 And the BDS movement, this is a bunch of radical leftists.

00:15:19.280 They hate you.

00:15:20.160 They hate your guts.

00:15:21.060 They hate Christians.

00:15:22.120 They hate the right.

00:15:23.480 They hate conservatives.

00:15:24.620 So who cares, right?

00:15:25.760 You know, put it in there, do some damage to them.

00:15:27.920 I hear you.

00:15:28.440 So I want a few things first.

00:15:30.120 A lot of people will, of course, say, well, if you don't want the United States making regulations against, you know, what citizens can do in relation to a foreign government, specifically Israel here, then you're, like, supporting the people who ultimately, you know, push that stuff.

00:15:48.940 You're supporting, like, terrorists.

00:15:50.540 You're supporting Hamas.

00:15:52.040 You're pro-Palestinian.

00:15:54.200 You're pro-leftist.

00:15:55.520 All this kind of stuff.

00:15:56.480 And I understand what they're saying because the BDS guys, for the most part, hate my guts, right?

00:16:03.300 Like, these are not people who ultimately are going to be on my side.

00:16:07.080 They don't like me politically.

00:16:08.360 They don't like me personally.

00:16:09.740 They don't like where I come from.

00:16:11.640 They don't like my people.

00:16:13.020 They don't like my religion.

00:16:14.700 They don't like conservatives.

00:16:16.500 So I get it.

00:16:17.540 Like, right, by all measures, these are political enemies for the most part, right?

00:16:23.440 So I understand the point of, oh, well, you know, why wouldn't you want to hurt these people?

00:16:28.960 It's another win against the left.

00:16:30.280 Just, you know, just get in there and do it.

00:16:32.140 However, I do think it matters, right?

00:16:34.340 There are lots of ways that we can hurt the left.

00:16:36.980 And I'm on board with hurting the left, right?

00:16:39.640 Like, I am the guy, whereas politics is about rewarding your friends and punishing your enemies, right?

00:16:44.960 Like, this is one of the phrases I repeat over and over and over again.

00:16:49.260 So, you know, I got into this with Will Chamberlain on Twitter.

00:16:53.900 He's a guy who is a very prominent political commentator.

00:16:57.600 He's on the NatCon podcast.

00:16:59.680 He does a lot of shows up on, like, Tim Pool and stuff a lot.

00:17:02.440 He's been on the show multiple times.

00:17:04.180 I like Will.

00:17:04.800 However, you know, he's saying, oh, well, you just have to do business this way.

00:17:08.880 This is just coalitional politics.

00:17:10.640 And if you want to punish the left, if you want to get on board with, like, stopping DEI,

00:17:16.220 you just also have to be on board with stopping the BDS stuff.

00:17:19.760 You have to be on board with regulating whether or not Americans can choose to boycott a foreign government or not.

00:17:28.480 And I'm sorry, I just don't buy this argument.

00:17:31.320 And I don't buy it for several reasons, okay?

00:17:33.760 The reason that I'm okay with using the DEI stuff as a wedge,

00:17:39.140 the reason I'm willing to say I will punish leftist cities for implementing DEI,

00:17:43.980 is it directly discriminates against American citizens.

00:17:47.520 It is active discrimination against Americans in the United States by governments in the United States.

00:17:56.480 We cannot allow this.

00:17:57.760 We cannot allow a large, sprawling, anti-white structure to attack Americans.

00:18:04.000 Again, often other races as well, like Asians.

00:18:07.620 But you cannot allow this tool of basic, primarily anti-white hate to be something that is regularly deployed by blue cities across the nation, right?

00:18:17.300 Totally on board with this.

00:18:18.740 I am totally fine with using this.

00:18:20.980 You know, Will said, oh, well, we can't unilaterally disarm.

00:18:23.900 The left uses funding like this all the time to cut off funding to right-wing organizations and demand that they do certain things.

00:18:31.680 And we can't write that off.

00:18:33.160 And I agree 100%.

00:18:34.580 I am not for unilateral disarmament.

00:18:37.180 I am on board with telling people, no, you cannot implement this DEI framework and continue to receive funding from the federal government.

00:18:45.240 That makes perfect sense.

00:18:46.400 And I'm on board with that tactic.

00:18:48.360 However, that is not what's happening here, right?

00:18:51.880 What's happening here is we are also packaging in, with the anti-DEI stuff, the idea that also you can't make a choice as to whether or not you want to support a foreign government.

00:19:06.680 Because that's what the government of Israel is.

00:19:09.400 It's a foreign government, right?

00:19:10.880 And you have the right as an American citizen to choose whether or not you support a foreign government.

00:19:18.660 Now, again, I don't like the people who are running a lot of these BDS movements.

00:19:22.580 I know they don't care about me.

00:19:23.900 I know they hate me.

00:19:25.160 So this is not me, like, you know, solidarity with these guys.

00:19:27.940 They're on my side.

00:19:28.940 You know, a lot of people make this mistake.

00:19:30.420 They don't like something Israel's doing.

00:19:32.240 They're like, oh, well, that means we have to back the base Muslims, right?

00:19:35.220 Like, they're our friends now.

00:19:37.260 Or we have to try to team up with all the leftists who have been screaming about Israel.

00:19:41.380 No, no, we don't actually at all.

00:19:43.580 I don't have to pick sides between awful people.

00:19:46.540 I actually don't have to do that, right?

00:19:48.640 I'm sorry.

00:19:49.220 Like, I can oppose backing Ukraine and funding Ukraine without being pro-Russia or pro-Putin, right?

00:19:56.920 I know the classic dynamic is if two sides are fighting, you've got to choose one side.

00:20:02.380 But I don't have to choose Israel and Palestine.

00:20:05.460 I don't have to choose Ukraine or Russia.

00:20:08.360 I don't have to do that because I'm an American.

00:20:11.060 And so what I'm going to do each and every time is put America first.

00:20:15.100 That's going to be the guiding light.

00:20:18.080 My nation, my people, what is good for us as a community, as a nation?

00:20:23.600 What is good for the people next to me, my neighbor, my family, my community, my state, my country?

00:20:30.340 That's what's going to guide me.

00:20:32.160 Not, oh, well, one side says this, so I have to be on the other side.

00:20:36.240 No, I'm on America's side.

00:20:38.380 But I'm on America's side every time.

00:20:42.000 And I hope, you know, I hope that that seems consistent to everybody.

00:20:45.660 I hope if there's one thing you can see from my repeated positions that I take, I do my best.

00:20:51.840 Nobody's perfect.

00:20:52.620 I'll make mistakes.

00:20:53.440 But the positions I take repeatedly, I put all of my effort forward in trying to create a scenario in which it's clear that I am trying to choose the good of America first.

00:21:04.260 I might be wrong.

00:21:05.280 Maybe I'm wrong about an economic policy.

00:21:06.920 Maybe I'm wrong about some government policy.

00:21:08.860 But my motivation, I hope, always is clearly putting America first.

00:21:13.420 And so I do not have to choose between, like, leftists who hate me or Palestinians that probably hate me or jihadis somewhere in the Middle East, you know, and Israel.

00:21:25.640 I don't have to choose between those.

00:21:27.220 I don't have to choose because none of these people are on my side.

00:21:30.500 I'm on America's side, right?

00:21:32.200 Period.

00:21:32.560 That's it, right?

00:21:33.740 And so when I look at this legislation, I am very worried.

00:21:37.040 And when I'm told that I have to, I have to package support for a foreign government with opposition to anti-white policies, I have to do that.

00:21:49.160 Sorry, we just can't advance anti-DEI stuff unless we also advance this, like, you have to support Israel, you have to do business with Israel stuff.

00:21:59.860 No, I don't have to do that.

00:22:01.060 And again, this is not because I want people to run around and ban doing business with Israel.

00:22:04.720 Well, I mean, I don't think that's useful for the most part, but that's not the question here.

00:22:10.740 The question here is, should we be binding disaster aid for people in need in the middle of a hurricane to whether or not they back the government of Bibi Netanyahu?

00:22:23.620 Like, is that really what we're doing here?

00:22:25.760 Are you trying to tell me that this is an America first policy?

00:22:30.500 How?

00:22:31.400 In what way?

00:22:32.160 And this is what a lot of people said, a lot of prominent commentators, very popular right-wing commentators noticed this problem.

00:22:39.280 Matt Walsh of the Daily Wire came in and said, this is clearly not America first, right?

00:22:43.860 And many people, myself included, were saying, I don't want to see this, right?

00:22:48.340 This is not how we should be doing business.

00:22:50.680 Again, I am fine with punishing the left on DEI stuff.

00:22:53.720 That's for America.

00:22:55.260 That is pro-American.

00:22:56.660 That is protecting the American people.

00:22:58.460 But this last part, this is not protecting the American people.

00:23:02.180 This is protecting Israel.

00:23:03.820 Like, very clearly.

00:23:05.300 Okay?

00:23:06.000 If you want to do business with Israel, by all means.

00:23:08.300 I'm not going to stop you.

00:23:09.220 I don't want to create some kind of thing where you can't do business or we all have to boycott.

00:23:14.560 No.

00:23:15.080 Like, you have an individual conscience.

00:23:17.100 And this is a foreign country.

00:23:18.880 Honestly, I hope you don't think about foreign countries all that much.

00:23:21.480 It would be nice if I never had to think about Israel again.

00:23:24.340 That would be the best day in the world.

00:23:25.660 Just don't ever have to talk about it.

00:23:27.400 Don't have to hear about it.

00:23:28.440 Go through an entire political cycle without hearing about pro or against Israel.

00:23:32.880 What a beautiful day that would be.

00:23:34.540 Where Israel is like Madagascar.

00:23:37.720 Most Americans can't find it on a map.

00:23:39.940 They can't spell it.

00:23:41.000 They can't pronounce it.

00:23:42.180 They don't care.

00:23:43.220 They don't know anything about it.

00:23:44.300 That would be so amazing.

00:23:45.880 That is the future I am hoping for when it comes to American-Israeli relations.

00:23:49.460 That I just don't have to worry about them at all, ever, again.

00:23:51.960 But here we are, and they're being injected directly into my domestic politics.

00:23:57.940 This isn't even like some kind of foreign policy issue.

00:24:01.420 This is how aid should be distributed in the United States of America where I live, based

00:24:06.960 on whether or not I support some foreign nation.

00:24:10.300 Again, if you were writing legislation saying you got to support Ukraine or we're going to

00:24:14.980 cut disaster funding, everyone would lose their minds and they'd be right.

00:24:19.400 But why is this different?

00:24:22.640 How is this different?

00:24:24.220 In what way is this different other than you like Israel?

00:24:27.040 Like this, I'm just asking for equal weights and measures.

00:24:29.600 I'm asking for what George Washington said in his farewell address.

00:24:33.420 Don't hate a country so much that it destroys your own country and drives you to make bad

00:24:39.000 decisions, but don't love another country so much that it drives you to make bad decisions.

00:24:44.340 And he said this specifically, he said, if you favor one nation over others, then what

00:24:49.720 will happen is you will make all these other nations jealous and you will confuse the interests

00:24:54.700 of your own nation with that nation.

00:24:56.760 And so you'll create bad relationships with other nations while also ensuring that you

00:25:01.240 create factions and division inside your own nation, depending on whether or not people

00:25:05.100 back the favored nation under discussion.

00:25:08.660 And so this is just action that is very clearly in the violation of like what our founders thought

00:25:15.880 about foreign policy, how we should treat foreign nations.

00:25:18.860 This in every way is a violation of how we should be doing business.

00:25:23.420 Again, our own domestic policy now being dictated about how you feel about a foreign nation.

00:25:29.660 It's gross.

00:25:30.620 It's ugly.

00:25:31.200 It's stupid.

00:25:31.840 And there's just no reason that this should be going on.

00:25:35.600 So with all of this backlash, the Trump administration did kind of make it make a change here.

00:25:41.940 So let me share the new updated version of this real quick.

00:25:52.100 So this is the updated version.

00:25:53.800 You'll see the changes here.

00:25:54.800 So the DEI language is still in here.

00:25:57.880 We still have very similar language at the beginning here, but instead they've changed

00:26:01.980 the last we get.

00:26:02.840 We get D and E here instead.

00:26:04.420 Federal anti-discrimination laws mean federal civil rights law that protects individual

00:26:09.500 Americans from discrimination on the basis of sex, race, color, religion, national origin.

00:26:15.640 So we're getting the civil rights laws, you know, kind of codified here.

00:26:20.600 Illegal immigrants mean any alien is defined in the statute, right?

00:26:25.520 So, uh, you're, so you're not allowed to, uh, you know, you're not allowed to discriminate

00:26:30.900 on DEI, uh, basic civil rights law still matters.

00:26:34.180 So great, right?

00:26:35.280 It's, it's been changed.

00:26:36.460 The specific language of Israel has been removed.

00:26:39.400 Fantastic.

00:26:40.040 Right.

00:26:40.260 Makes sense.

00:26:40.980 And, and that's really important because remember, uh, we have leftists who boycott Americans all

00:26:48.140 the time.

00:26:48.540 You guys remember, uh, when they had the trans bathroom stuff and like, uh, uh, the, you know,

00:26:54.120 they started passing, I think it was North Carolina was the first one to pass, uh, the,

00:26:58.300 the anti-trans in your bathroom bill, you know, protecting women and children, uh, from

00:27:03.900 having like men cross-dressers in their, uh, in their, uh, dressing rooms and they're

00:27:09.560 changing rooms and in their bathrooms.

00:27:11.640 And, you know, we had, uh, major American corporations refuse to go to, uh, North Carolina.

00:27:18.300 I, I believe it was, uh, an NBA game, like some kind of, uh, NBA championship.

00:27:23.640 Like they, they canceled what was supposed to be in North Carolina because they had a

00:27:28.240 law they didn't like.

00:27:29.020 So it was legal in the United States still is by the way, to, uh, to boycott other American

00:27:35.440 states.

00:27:36.400 And of course we see this all the time.

00:27:38.220 Um, we, you know, we have, uh, when Florida passed the quote unquote, don't say gay bill,

00:27:43.160 um, we had a number of, uh, different, uh, states, including, I think California issue

00:27:48.660 don't travel orders for their, uh, government officials and don't do business, blah, blah,

00:27:53.740 blah, all this stuff.

00:27:54.680 And so the direct boycott state to state.

00:27:57.440 So we're talking about domestic boycotts, boycotts between states, between corporations

00:28:03.200 and states based purely on their attempts to protect, uh, children, right?

00:28:09.160 Like leftists were boycotting, uh, entire American states, uh, corporations were boycotting

00:28:14.540 entire American states just because they wanted to protect children.

00:28:18.160 And guess what we did about that?

00:28:20.860 Nothing, nothing.

00:28:22.240 You can boycott them all day long.

00:28:23.980 You can boycott conservatives.

00:28:25.340 You can boycott people for protecting children.

00:28:27.960 It does not matter.

00:28:29.120 You will not get in trouble, right?

00:28:30.820 You'll be fine.

00:28:31.660 You will still be able to do business, all that stuff.

00:28:34.380 No problem.

00:28:35.320 However, however, if you boycott Israel.

00:28:39.420 You're going to get in big trouble, a foreign nation.

00:28:42.320 You can boycott Florida.

00:28:44.040 You can boycott North Carolina.

00:28:45.880 You can boycott people for protecting children.

00:28:49.880 But if someone doesn't like what's going on in Israel and they decide to take action,

00:28:53.500 that's when the federal government is going to cut your disaster funding.

00:28:57.500 Not because you ban, you, you boycotted Florida.

00:29:00.120 Not because you boycotted North Carolina.

00:29:02.260 Not because you were, uh, attacking states that were protecting children because they wanted

00:29:06.920 to protect Israel.

00:29:08.580 That's wild.

00:29:09.460 That's wild.

00:29:10.060 People see that guys.

00:29:11.780 Like they see that and they notice that.

00:29:14.520 Okay.

00:29:15.000 It becomes too obvious.

00:29:17.100 You're showing too much of your hand when you do this.

00:29:20.460 Okay.

00:29:20.960 We won't protect American states.

00:29:23.040 We're not going to protect conservatives.

00:29:24.540 We're not going to protect Christians.

00:29:25.920 We're not going to protect American communities.

00:29:27.940 We're not going to protect, uh, children, but we will protect Israel.

00:29:33.660 Like, come on.

00:29:35.080 What are you doing?

00:29:36.300 Like, even if you're pro Israel, you have to know this looks terrible.

00:29:41.440 This looks terrible.

00:29:42.700 And it's impossible not to notice that this has become a giant priority, right?

00:29:47.520 It's impossible not to notice because we didn't get any of these legal regulations.

00:29:52.400 They were threatening, you know, they've been threatening colleges and their funding.

00:29:56.040 Great.

00:29:56.420 But only when it comes to Israel, they've been, they're, they're, they're threatening leftist,

00:30:00.960 uh, states and their funding.

00:30:02.540 Okay.

00:30:03.080 But they're pairing all of the anti-DEI stuff with support for a foreign nation.

00:30:08.500 They did.

00:30:09.200 They could have put in there and you can't, uh, you can't boycott other states because

00:30:13.160 of their stance on, uh, you know, child mutilation or their stance on, uh, allowing,

00:30:18.140 uh, you know, uh, uh, uh, uh, troons inside, uh, you know, women's bathrooms.

00:30:22.740 You could have put all of that in there, but you didn't instead, you put Israel in there.

00:30:27.800 People notice people notice guys.

00:30:30.120 And you can't, you can't tell me, you can't tell me that you're just doing that.

00:30:34.840 Cause we got to get that done to get the like anti-DEI stuff done because the Trump administration

00:30:39.840 dropped the language immediately.

00:30:41.660 Like just a few hours later after the public backlash, they dropped it immediately.

00:30:45.220 So the, the theory that this is necessary to push this, like, uh, the, the idea that you

00:30:52.580 have to, uh, push this or otherwise you just can't stop the DEI stuff is complete bunk.

00:30:58.400 It's obviously a lie because the Trump administration dropped it immediately.

00:31:02.440 Well, maybe, right?

00:31:03.960 Okay.

00:31:04.200 So here's the, here's the next problem here.

00:31:06.600 Here's our next, uh, share.

00:31:07.780 Uh, so this post came out after the new language was released from the Department of Homeland Security.

00:31:22.320 I know.

00:31:22.720 Sorry.

00:31:22.940 That one's a little small.

00:31:23.840 Um, the power went out and all of my stuff that was preset is now long, no longer preset.

00:31:31.880 So stay with me here.

00:31:33.260 Uh, so from the Department of Homeland Security, we get this tweet after kind of this like stealth

00:31:38.220 edit to the policy.

00:31:39.240 Right.

00:31:39.940 And it says, there is no FEMA requirement tied to Israel in the current NOFO.

00:31:44.600 Well, there was, so that's a problem.

00:31:47.700 You can't just be like, well, uh, I don't know what you guys are talking about.

00:31:50.480 It's not there.

00:31:51.260 I mean, it was there 10 minutes ago, but it's not there now.

00:31:53.720 Right.

00:31:54.100 So we're all good.

00:31:54.920 Right.

00:31:55.100 Like, no, you kind of have to, you got to explain that one.

00:31:57.780 You can't just walk that one out and walk it back and then be like, it's gone.

00:32:02.780 Everybody's cool.

00:32:03.300 We're cool.

00:32:03.680 Right.

00:32:04.200 Like, don't get me wrong.

00:32:05.300 I want to, I want to be clear.

00:32:06.860 I want to reward the Trump administration for listening to people.

00:32:10.120 Okay.

00:32:10.680 I know there's a lot of voices.

00:32:12.340 I know there's a lot of influence flying around in DC, especially in the white house.

00:32:16.740 I know there are factions who are fighting over who and what to believe in back.

00:32:20.540 Okay.

00:32:23.300 So I'm not here to like chide the administration.

00:32:27.340 Uh, how could you ever, you know, you responded.

00:32:29.840 No, good.

00:32:30.640 You responded.

00:32:31.400 You changed.

00:32:32.380 Fantastic.

00:32:32.920 Right.

00:32:33.300 But like that one is a little blatant and you got to explain it.

00:32:37.860 Okay.

00:32:38.040 You can't, you can't tell me, um, you know, that we just put that out there, but it's not

00:32:42.780 there now.

00:32:43.180 And it's fine.

00:32:43.660 Like, no, why was there in the first place?

00:32:45.740 Anyway, it says no States have lost funding and no new conditions have been imposed.

00:32:50.360 Well, they were gonna.

00:32:53.300 Yeah.

00:32:53.780 I understand that this was like, suppose this, this didn't happen, but it was supposed to,

00:32:59.200 that was the plan.

00:33:00.440 So like having a conversation about why that happened would be great.

00:33:04.720 And I just want to say, I would like to talk to a Trump administration official about

00:33:09.100 this.

00:33:09.540 Okay.

00:33:09.940 I would, I would genuinely, I'm, it's not going to be hostile.

00:33:12.960 I promise.

00:33:13.960 Okay.

00:33:14.400 I'm not going to be here screaming at you, but I genuinely want to have a real conversation.

00:33:18.800 I think MAGA voters deserve to have a conversation about this.

00:33:22.940 They deserve to hear why they thought this was okay.

00:33:26.480 Why this was meant was, did an intern draft this one?

00:33:29.940 Right.

00:33:30.720 Uh, was, was, was, uh, this handed over to a lobbyist somewhere, uh, or like, where is

00:33:37.240 this the plan from the beginning?

00:33:38.600 Did nobody hear that?

00:33:39.740 I mean, you, you have to know what this sounds like when you draft it.

00:33:42.280 Right.

00:33:42.460 Like, so somebody should have done some proofreading here and said, I don't know if this one's

00:33:45.640 going to fly boss.

00:33:46.660 Uh, so I would just like to have a conversation.

00:33:48.820 What does that process look like?

00:33:50.520 Why was this chosen?

00:33:51.900 Why did we think that was necessary?

00:33:53.700 Why was it rolled back?

00:33:54.920 Why was it okay to roll it back?

00:33:56.420 Was it necessary before?

00:33:57.440 Is it necessary?

00:33:58.140 And what's going on?

00:33:58.960 I just would like to sit down.

00:34:00.560 So please Trump administration, if you would like to put an official, uh, on the show to

00:34:05.480 have this discussion with me, I would love to do that.

00:34:08.000 I think the American people deserve to know what's going on here.

00:34:10.560 Again, I'm not trying to do a struggle session.

00:34:12.400 I'm not trying to beat anybody up.

00:34:14.060 I want genuine answers because I just don't think this is acceptable.

00:34:17.820 We, we didn't, we didn't protect, uh, conservative States this way.

00:34:21.780 We didn't protect Christians this way.

00:34:23.660 We're only protecting Israel this way.

00:34:26.640 And again, very difficult not to notice that that's the case.

00:34:30.260 A lot of people screamed at me for, you know, disliking, uh, the war in Ukraine, right?

00:34:35.520 But for the most part, conservatives were on board.

00:34:37.620 They came around on this only bringing exactly the same criticism.

00:34:41.780 I didn't want my money to go to Zelensky and I don't want it to go to Netanyahu.

00:34:46.080 I don't want my weapons to go to Ukraine and I don't want them to go to Israel.

00:34:50.120 I don't want my military deployed to protect the Ukrainian border.

00:34:53.560 And I don't want it protecting the Israeli border.

00:34:56.440 I want America and its armed forces and its money and its people to protect the United

00:35:01.760 States.

00:35:02.460 And I want them to do that across the board in every conflict, in every situation.

00:35:08.240 And so I just want to know why were we doing this?

00:35:11.320 What's going on?

00:35:12.440 Please break it down for me.

00:35:13.760 I would like to understand it.

00:35:15.840 However, here's the post that says, okay, we didn't, you know, put any of these conditions

00:35:19.500 down.

00:35:19.780 However, FEMA grants remain governed by existing law and policy and not political litmus tests.

00:35:27.560 Well, but there was a political litmus test very clearly that was happening.

00:35:32.060 DHS will enforce all and unless you're telling me, of course, and here's where we get it.

00:35:38.600 And I'll just read it.

00:35:39.200 DHS will enforce all anti-discrimination laws and policies, including as it relates to the

00:35:44.700 BDS movement.

00:35:46.420 So actually, it sounds like we are possibly withholding funding for people who want to

00:35:54.660 oppose Israel.

00:35:55.400 So, okay, why are there American anti-discrimination laws for foreign nations?

00:36:02.200 If tomorrow Florida decided that it was not going to do business with any Chinese company

00:36:08.860 or any other, which I think it should, by the way, and I think that's what we should be

00:36:12.080 doing.

00:36:12.540 We should be cutting China off.

00:36:14.340 But if Florida said we are no longer selling land to China, you can't, if you're a Chinese

00:36:19.520 company or you're a Chinese national, you cannot own land in Florida.

00:36:23.080 And we don't care what any other state says, that's what we're doing.

00:36:27.360 Would it lose disaster funding?

00:36:29.800 Is that discriminatory against China?

00:36:33.940 And if it's not discriminatory against China, why is it discriminatory against Israel?

00:36:38.500 Claudia was leaving for her pickleball tournament.

00:36:40.860 I've been visualizing my match all week.

00:36:43.380 She was so focused on visualizing that she didn't see the column behind her car on her

00:36:47.540 backhand side.

00:36:49.340 Good thing Claudia's with Intact.

00:36:51.140 The insurer with the largest network of auto service centers in the country.

00:36:55.100 Everything was taken care of under one roof and she was on her way in a rental car in

00:36:58.920 no time.

00:36:59.580 I made it to my tournament and lost in the first round.

00:37:03.020 But you got there on time.

00:37:04.900 Intact Insurance, your auto service ace.

00:37:07.500 Certain conditions apply.

00:37:09.420 Why is there no protection for China in our anti-discrimination laws, but there is for

00:37:14.180 Israel?

00:37:14.860 You can say, oh, well, China's an enemy and Israel's an ally.

00:37:17.080 Well, I mean, we do a lot of business with China, so if they're an enemy, we're going

00:37:22.320 about this wrong.

00:37:22.920 But let's just use another example.

00:37:25.360 I don't like what's happening to the British in the UK right now.

00:37:29.160 The UK government is tyrannical.

00:37:31.080 It is destroying the native people of Britain and replacing them on purpose.

00:37:36.940 It's allowing the rape of young girls by migrants that it continues to bring in and refuses to

00:37:43.480 prosecute.

00:37:44.280 And it punishes any English person who speaks out against that or tries to stop it.

00:37:49.820 If I got all the people in Florida together and I said, okay, let's boycott the UK.

00:37:57.020 We're not going to do business with the UK anymore because the UK is hurting its people.

00:38:03.320 It's a tyrannical government.

00:38:04.380 It doesn't have our values.

00:38:06.120 We don't want to support it in any way.

00:38:08.440 Would that violate the anti-discrimination laws of the United States?

00:38:14.200 Like, why do our anti-discrimination laws protect foreign governments?

00:38:18.960 Well, actually, just one foreign government, because I don't think we'd have this problem

00:38:22.400 with any other foreign government.

00:38:24.300 This needs to be addressed.

00:38:25.900 Like, you can't just throw this out here and pretend like this isn't happening.

00:38:29.480 Like, you're saying it out loud.

00:38:31.600 You're not hiding the ball.

00:38:34.160 So, like, we need an answer.

00:38:36.100 Why is this one government immune to any kind of criticism or any kind of boycott when I could

00:38:45.800 boycott any other country in the world tomorrow and not have to worry about it?

00:38:49.460 Right?

00:38:50.220 I am consistent.

00:38:51.180 I just want the same rules for Israel as we have for every other country.

00:38:55.820 That's all.

00:38:56.820 I want to be able to say I disagree with what's going on in Ukraine and I don't want to support

00:39:00.540 Zelensky and I don't want to send money there and not be called a traitor or a liar or a

00:39:06.020 Putin supporter or an anti-Ukrainian hater or something like that.

00:39:10.000 And I'd like to be able to have people do the same thing for Israel if they choose without

00:39:13.440 facing this kind of penalty.

00:39:15.180 But it seems like the Department of Homeland Security is directly saying, actually, our

00:39:20.460 anti-discrimination laws protect the government of a foreign country from American citizens.

00:39:28.920 Doesn't seem good.

00:39:30.800 Which is expressly grounded in anti-Semitism.

00:39:33.640 Those who engage in radical discrimination should not receive a single dollar of federal

00:39:37.620 funding.

00:39:38.000 Again, very confusing, very concerning.

00:39:42.680 Do not like what's going on here.

00:39:44.660 Again, glad it got rolled back in theory.

00:39:47.480 But then when we see a post like this, the question is, did it ever get rolled back at

00:39:51.520 all?

00:39:52.320 Or did you just change the name on the guideline and then intend to go ahead and continue to

00:39:56.380 do it anyway?

00:39:57.440 Because that's very concerning.

00:39:59.740 I should be able to oppose DEI in the United States without having to also agree to having

00:40:07.660 a commissar comb through the political beliefs of different cities and decide whether their

00:40:13.340 foreign policy thoughts are violating the discrimination laws of the United States of

00:40:19.960 America.

00:40:20.860 It's a really weird thing, guys.

00:40:23.560 Very weird for you to come out and frame it this way.

00:40:26.020 Very strange.

00:40:27.620 We need to stop doing this.

00:40:29.180 OK, this is stupid.

00:40:31.420 This is stupid.

00:40:32.460 It's ugly.

00:40:33.220 It's gross.

00:40:34.360 And it's not America first.

00:40:36.160 I thought we were America first.

00:40:37.080 I thought that was the whole thing, right?

00:40:39.260 This is clearly not America first.

00:40:40.980 So please, for the love of God, stop doing this.

00:40:45.420 Stop doing this.

00:40:46.440 It looks ridiculous.

00:40:47.940 People ask very good and serious questions because they deserve to ask them when you're

00:40:53.120 doing stuff like this.

00:40:54.100 And you can't just shout them down.

00:40:55.820 OK, you can't just yell names at them when you do this kind of stuff because people are

00:41:00.800 eventually going to stop caring.

00:41:02.740 OK, we all got over the being racist thing.

00:41:06.220 Oh, it's if you if you ask about crime, it's racist.

00:41:10.080 If you ask about poor educational performance, it's racist.

00:41:13.940 We got past that.

00:41:15.240 We can talk about that stuff now.

00:41:17.200 Yelling racist at people doesn't work anymore when it comes to discussing this stuff.

00:41:21.620 And that's going to happen with people's relationship with Israel at this point.

00:41:26.060 You can scream anti-Semite all you want, but it's very clear a lot of people who don't

00:41:30.820 hate Israel are asking legitimate questions about what's going on.

00:41:34.020 Now, don't get me wrong.

00:41:34.640 There are people who hate Jews and hate Israel and they're screaming from the top of their

00:41:38.720 lungs.

00:41:39.040 And obviously, the easiest thing in the world is just mix everyone together and be like,

00:41:42.300 oh, everyone's an anti-Semite.

00:41:43.600 Get out of here.

00:41:44.140 But that's exactly what you did with crime and education and everything else, too, right?

00:41:49.840 Oh, OK.

00:41:50.540 There's like five guys over there who really hate black people, so we can't talk about

00:41:54.320 crime statistics.

00:41:55.760 Oh, there's like 10 guys over there who really hate Mexicans, so we can't talk about immigration.

00:41:59.880 No, no, I'm sorry, because the majority of people had real legitimate concerns about

00:42:04.820 crime, about immigration, about education.

00:42:07.700 And the fact that it made some people of some races uncomfortable didn't stop us from having

00:42:13.180 those discussions, or at least they used to, but it doesn't now.

00:42:16.540 And the same thing's going to happen here, OK?

00:42:19.260 You can scream all you want.

00:42:20.860 You can call people all the names you want.

00:42:23.140 At some point, people are going to keep looking at what you're doing, and they're going to

00:42:26.720 have legitimate questions about whether or not it's in the interest of their country.

00:42:29.820 And it's OK to ask those questions.

00:42:32.700 And telling people it's not OK to ask that question is only going to make them more and

00:42:36.760 more certain that something sinister is happening and with good reason.

00:42:40.460 So if you want to dispel these rumors, if you're really worried about people having the wrong

00:42:44.760 opinions and wrong thoughts about what's happening here, maybe, just maybe, you should think

00:42:49.960 about the rules you're imposing and why you're imposing them and why people seem to be so

00:42:54.580 outraged by them.

00:42:55.720 Because I think there's some legitimate pushback here.

00:42:58.000 And you can tell because the pushback came from across the spectrum.

00:43:01.660 It wasn't just a bunch of crazy leftists.

00:43:03.940 It wasn't just a bunch of pro-Muslim people who hate America.

00:43:07.980 It was good, rock-ribbed, solid conservatives saying, wait, why am I removing disaster funding

00:43:15.180 from my neighbor because of their position on a foreign government?

00:43:19.200 I'm willing to push that edge when it comes to them discriminating against my kids and

00:43:24.060 my family.

00:43:25.020 I'm not willing to do that for a foreign nation.

00:43:27.280 Sorry.

00:43:28.440 America first, every time.

00:43:30.760 All right.

00:43:31.160 So let's take a look at our other topic real quick.

00:43:33.140 Obviously, with the power outage, our time is a little weird here, but I don't know how

00:43:37.860 long I was out, but we'll just dive into the story.

00:43:40.240 We won't worry about the length of the show then.

00:43:43.640 So the next one is this move here.

00:43:46.700 Now, Jim Acosta is obviously like, you know, terrible.

00:43:50.060 However, he did do this recently, which is also terrible, but brings up some interesting

00:43:55.920 issues.

00:43:56.880 So Acosta here puts on, I don't even know where Jim Acosta is anymore.

00:44:01.900 All these like mainstream media figures now just have like random podcasts that he watches.

00:44:07.540 So he says, a show that you don't want to miss, blah, blah, blah.

00:44:10.920 So an interview with Joaquin Oliver.

00:44:15.560 He died in the Parkland school shooting in 2018, but his parents have created an AI version

00:44:19.820 of their son to deliver a powerful message on gun violence.

00:44:23.660 All right.

00:44:24.960 So let's, let's watch this real quick.

00:44:27.940 Would be for gun violence.

00:44:30.260 Get the volume up.

00:44:31.520 Joaquin, I would like to know what your solution would be.

00:44:38.560 Joaquin, I would like to know what your solution would be for gun violence.

00:44:44.260 For whatever reason, I'm not.

00:44:45.280 Great question.

00:44:46.220 I believe in a mix of stronger gun control laws.

00:44:48.520 We need more gun control and community engagement.

00:44:50.800 I need to create safe spaces for conversations and connections, making sure everyone feels

00:44:55.880 seen and heard.

00:44:57.100 It's about building a culture of kindness and understanding.

00:44:59.860 What do you think about that?

00:45:00.900 From what's, I think that's a great idea.

00:45:02.320 And I'm there, you can tell that the AI is still very bad.

00:45:04.900 The technology is still not great.

00:45:06.820 If you, if my, if the sound was working, if the power hadn't gone out, you would hear,

00:45:11.340 actually, hold on.

00:45:12.060 Maybe I can change this real.

00:45:14.480 All right.

00:45:14.660 This one more time.

00:45:15.400 Sorry about all this, guys.

00:45:18.560 No, it does have always share tab audio on.

00:45:20.740 Okay.

00:45:20.900 I thought maybe that had gotten tripped.

00:45:24.460 Great question.

00:45:25.480 Still no good.

00:45:26.160 Okay.

00:45:26.420 Sorry about that, guys.

00:45:27.240 Again, only so much I can do when the power goes out.

00:45:29.680 But the, you know, trust me, the sound is really bad.

00:45:33.440 It's as bad as you think, along with the mouth movements.

00:45:35.380 So, obviously, AI is still very far off from mimicking, you know, a late loved one's persona,

00:45:43.960 accurately portraying their speech, all these kind of things.

00:45:46.720 However, a couple things.

00:45:47.920 First, obviously, this is, like, insanely ghoulish.

00:45:50.660 You know, this is, this is shameless.

00:45:52.160 The fact that Jim Acosta would use this dead kid for the promotion of, like, his political

00:45:58.260 position and, like, have his parents, like, digitally resurrect this kid.

00:46:02.120 Do, like, digital necromancy to bring back their son to push his political agenda is

00:46:07.800 horrible.

00:46:08.560 The way that he talks to the AI is really insanely stilted and insulting as well.

00:46:14.980 Obviously, very, just morally gross, reprehensible behavior and corny and stupid all at the same

00:46:21.560 time.

00:46:21.880 So, like, you're not even getting, like, some kind of convincing or compelling content.

00:46:25.320 It's basically, like, I don't know.

00:46:27.160 I'm going to show my age here for kids who didn't grow up with some of the 80s in their

00:46:31.380 life.

00:46:31.880 But Max Headroom, you know, like, the really cheesy 3D computer-generated guy, like, one

00:46:39.180 of these first, like, computer-generated personalities.

00:46:42.540 It's a lot like that, where it's, like, insanely cheesy the way that they're talking.

00:46:46.220 So, like, the, you know, the mouth movement is terrible.

00:46:50.480 The sound is terrible.

00:46:52.160 And then Jim Acosta attempting to, like, pretend like this is normal is, it's all incredibly

00:46:57.260 embarrassing and horrible and morally reprehensible.

00:47:00.240 The parents, I try not to be judgmental of people who've lost people in this way.

00:47:05.520 So, I'm not going to rip on the parents too much, even though they never should have done

00:47:08.800 this and never should have agreed to it.

00:47:10.660 But I mainly blame Acosta for, you know, ultimately preying on their grief for the loss of their

00:47:16.540 son.

00:47:16.820 However, this does open up a deeper issue, right?

00:47:20.160 Because as bad as the AI is here, as unconvincing as the voice and everything is, this is going

00:47:27.660 to change.

00:47:28.640 I know, you know, you guys have probably already seen there are already better versions of this

00:47:33.920 out there.

00:47:34.880 There's already AI that already puts out better videos, completely fictional people created,

00:47:40.180 and they seem very realistic.

00:47:41.360 They speak in far more smooth tones, more natural speech, still in the uncanny valley,

00:47:47.800 still clearly AI for most people who are looking for it, but much more convincing than this one.

00:47:54.060 However, they're only going to get better, right?

00:47:55.700 Like, they're going to get the speech patterns down.

00:47:58.980 They're going to get the facial patterns down.

00:48:00.760 They're already pretty good, and they're going to keep getting better.

00:48:03.980 They will become unrecognizable as AIs unless you really, really know what you're looking for.

00:48:09.140 But far more concerning is the idea that we're going to bring back dead relatives through this

00:48:15.500 technology, because ultimately, it's not just going to be the facial stuff, right?

00:48:19.740 Like, okay, I can see my dead loved one.

00:48:21.540 They're walking around.

00:48:22.460 They're talking.

00:48:23.000 I can hear their voice.

00:48:24.600 But it's also going to be the ability of AI to scrape the internet, right?

00:48:29.700 It's going to start scraping your social media and pulling in the different identities

00:48:34.840 that are out there online.

00:48:37.580 They're going to pull in your Facebook posts.

00:48:39.440 They're going to pull in your Twitter and your Instagram reels and your Snapchats.

00:48:43.380 They're going to pull in any content that you've made, any videos that are out there on YouTube

00:48:48.580 with you.

00:48:49.400 And these digital profiles are going to get created, because more and more people are

00:48:53.500 cataloging a large amount of their life online.

00:48:56.280 It would be hard to do with kind of the average 40 or 50-year-old, probably.

00:49:02.500 But for kids who have had a cell phone, and not a great idea, but for kids who have had

00:49:06.640 the cell phone since they were young, and they've been making videos, and they've been

00:49:10.500 posting things across the internet, and then they've been doing this for decades, that information

00:49:16.760 is going to accumulate, right?

00:49:17.980 And AI is going to be able to pull from those live videos, from the opinions, and the mannerisms,

00:49:23.920 and all these things that are existing out on the internet.

00:49:26.720 And once that happens, they're going to put together pretty convincing people.

00:49:29.440 A lot of people will say, oh, AI is just not that big of a deal.

00:49:32.520 It's not smart.

00:49:33.140 It's not about AI being smart.

00:49:34.620 This is always the mistake people make.

00:49:36.440 Yes, it's possible we could get Skynet, okay?

00:49:38.920 That is a concern, but that's not the concern.

00:49:41.760 The concern is that AI gets good enough at mimicking human behavior to where humans will

00:49:46.480 take it as a substitute for human behavior.

00:49:49.060 And when they do that, you're in a really bad place.

00:49:52.200 Because LLMs, the people say, oh, well, they just tell you back what you want to hear.

00:49:56.580 They don't think of anything new.

00:49:57.800 They don't come up with anything new.

00:49:59.360 They just tell you what you want to hear.

00:50:00.720 But guess what every person with a dead loved one wants?

00:50:04.540 They just want to hear what their loved one had said before, right?

00:50:08.680 They're not going to be super discerning when it comes to like, oh, are you having original

00:50:13.160 thoughts?

00:50:13.800 Am I having a truly original conversation?

00:50:15.780 No, they're just happy to see their dead loved one again.

00:50:19.420 And let me tell you how dangerous that is.

00:50:21.160 Because I lost a wife young, right?

00:50:23.760 And if I, you know, if I had been, if I had had access to a technology like this, you know,

00:50:31.500 not, not this, this is garbage at this point still, but what's coming and what will certainly

00:50:36.220 come.

00:50:36.560 If I had had access to something like that, I don't think I ever would have moved on.

00:50:40.780 I don't think I ever would have recovered because you have that crutch that's there for you on a

00:50:45.420 regular basis.

00:50:46.120 They, you know, that, that person is always there in a sense.

00:50:50.420 There's always something to go back to.

00:50:51.860 There's always something to pine for.

00:50:53.300 There's always something that's right there in front of you replicating that experience.

00:50:56.360 And that is going to one-shot people, man.

00:50:58.660 That is going to destroy people who are at intense amounts of grief.

00:51:01.880 You can't move past that when you have something like that talking to you, when you've resurrected

00:51:08.460 a loved one in that way.

00:51:10.240 It's impossible to grieve and move on in the human experience, whether we like it or not.

00:51:14.660 I know it's a terrible thing to say, you know, you're like, oh, I'll never forget this

00:51:19.320 person.

00:51:19.600 But to some extent, you, you, it's not so much forgetting the person in their totality, but

00:51:23.940 their common, their, their, their constant presence is no longer there.

00:51:28.100 And so at some point you learn how to live life without it.

00:51:30.720 But if you have an AI that will just mimic that for, you know, however long, then you

00:51:37.100 never have that grieving period and that natural distance and space to move beyond that experience.

00:51:43.440 And that is just horrible.

00:51:45.140 It's horrible.

00:51:45.840 And it's going to destroy people's lives because, you know, parents are going to lose

00:51:49.040 children.

00:51:49.720 You know, people are going to lose spouses, parents, and they are going to lose.

00:51:53.940 They live in a world where that virtual person is with them all the time.

00:51:57.920 And there's, there's plenty of sci-fi about this.

00:52:00.360 I think a black mirror had an episode like this.

00:52:02.880 And, uh, there's a, there's a great, um, like podcast.

00:52:06.520 That's kind of like a radio drama.

00:52:07.700 One of those, uh, I think it was called afterlife, uh, where like basically this company uses an

00:52:13.280 AI version of this guy's dead girlfriend to blackmail him into doing all this bad stuff.

00:52:18.320 Uh, there's, there's a few other examples.

00:52:20.480 I believe, uh, the, actually the Galactica, the, the, um, uh, or no Caprica, uh, the, the

00:52:25.900 sequel to Battlestar Galactica, the TV show, it didn't do very well, but it also kind of

00:52:29.780 had this premise where this guy's daughter died, but he could find a, a, a simulacrum

00:52:34.200 of her in these programs.

00:52:36.540 And I've talked about this a number of times when it comes to AI, it's the battle between

00:52:40.220 the simulacrum, you know, will, will you take the fake?

00:52:44.320 Will you take the easy, uh, you know, um, simulation or will you only stay around for

00:52:50.520 the real?

00:52:51.000 Well, with stuff like this, especially desperate people who have lost someone incredibly dear

00:52:55.520 to them, they're going to chase that stuff.

00:52:57.380 Right.

00:52:57.780 And, and, and there's not going to be much that stops them.

00:53:00.140 Trust me from experience.

00:53:01.720 Uh, you know, when you have this option, uh, and you are that devastated, you are going to

00:53:06.240 avail yourself of it.

00:53:07.200 Uh, and so there's a situation that I think is just terrible for society.

00:53:11.060 And the fact that we already, the very first thing that's being done with it is like not

00:53:14.960 actually comforting parents or anything.

00:53:16.680 It's pushing a political agenda just shows you how bad this is going to get.

00:53:20.320 Cause wait till it's every kid from Sandy hook or every kid from Parkland or every kid from,

00:53:25.500 you know, whatever thing you're thinking of, you know, hundreds, thousands of parents,

00:53:30.480 all living with simulations of the children they've lost.

00:53:33.460 And, you know, the, the spouses and these things, this is going to be terrible for

00:53:37.120 society.

00:53:37.600 It's going to make people completely unable to move on and go through the natural grieving

00:53:42.060 process, uh, that unfortunately is, is a terrible, but real and essential part of life.

00:53:47.620 Uh, and so, so I think we, I, unfortunately, I don't think we're going to stop this.

00:53:51.920 I don't think that we're going to be wise enough to put our foot down and, uh, and, and

00:53:55.820 keep people from doing this.

00:53:57.080 Uh, but I do think it's going to keep getting worse.

00:53:59.200 And that is a terrible future, especially again, when guys like Jim Acosta are just soullessly

00:54:04.140 using this to push their political agenda.

00:54:06.820 All right, guys, let's go to the questions of the people real quick.

00:54:10.280 Looks like we've got a decent amount.

00:54:12.940 Uh, principled uncertainty says in the UK have money.

00:54:17.200 Well, thank you very much, man.

00:54:18.180 Really appreciate that.

00:54:19.340 And again, sorry so much about what is going on in your country.

00:54:22.920 Uh, he also says, uh, get a raspberry, uh, I, and watch mental outlaws video on how to

00:54:30.600 set up an unbreakable VPN.

00:54:33.220 It's still legal for now.

00:54:34.880 Forgive my spelling.

00:54:35.720 My eyesight is crap.

00:54:36.600 Okay.

00:54:36.820 Well, if, yeah, if there's a, I know that VPNs have become a little bit of a hot topic

00:54:41.020 topic in the UK because they are censoring, uh, you know, they're, they're using digital

00:54:46.180 ID and stuff to block a lot of what people can say online in the UK.

00:54:49.100 The internet is in no way a place for free speech.

00:54:51.620 They were already arresting people for specific types of posts, but now they're, uh, you know,

00:54:56.400 blocking people in general.

00:54:57.700 I I'm actually going to have someone on here.

00:55:00.260 I believe it's next week, uh, to discuss a part of this from the UK.

00:55:04.220 So you can get the UK perspective.

00:55:06.200 Uh, but it looks like there's still options for VPN in, in the UK.

00:55:10.040 And if you can do that, uh, of course, uh, you know, avail yourself of that, but stay

00:55:14.360 safe.

00:55:15.040 Uh, I know it's the, the laws in the UK are shifting constantly.

00:55:18.300 Uh, and they are not hesitating to throw people in jail for violating them.

00:55:21.880 So, uh, you know, stay, stay safe out there.

00:55:24.840 Uh, he also says, I have no bias.

00:55:26.740 You're all terrible.

00:55:27.620 Now back to my family's problems.

00:55:29.560 Yeah, that is exactly my, my, my response to a lot of this.

00:55:33.420 You have to care about Israel.

00:55:34.600 You have to care about Palestine.

00:55:35.920 You have to care about Ukraine.

00:55:37.960 You have to care about Russia.

00:55:39.040 You have, no, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't care.

00:55:41.700 I don't want to care.

00:55:43.680 The only sense in which I care is you are invading my domestic politics.

00:55:47.480 You are domestic.

00:55:48.460 You are dictating to American citizens, what they can believe and how they can act based

00:55:52.600 on, uh, your relationship with a foreign power.

00:55:55.400 Again, exactly what George Washington warned us would happen.

00:55:58.920 If we entered into this type of relationship, I would just like us equal treatment of all

00:56:03.960 countries, which is to say, we can hate them all if we want or love them all if we want.

00:56:08.120 And really you shouldn't be doing either.

00:56:09.760 I would like to not think about foreign countries as much as possible.

00:56:12.500 Uh, however, to the extent that we have to, we have to talk about this.

00:56:15.320 I don't want to talk about this as real stuff.

00:56:17.000 People get insane about it.

00:56:18.560 They get angry.

00:56:19.240 They get fly off the handle.

00:56:20.260 They scream all kinds of damage to you.

00:56:21.420 They try to cancel whatever at this point.

00:56:23.900 If you're, if you're, if you're directly, you know, threatening disaster relief in the United

00:56:28.760 States for citizens of the United States over this, I'm out of options, guys.

00:56:32.540 You've left me no option.

00:56:33.740 Okay.

00:56:34.960 Like, what am I going to do?

00:56:36.280 Like, am I going to sit here and pretend I don't see this?

00:56:39.100 No, no one can.

00:56:40.200 You, you got to stop doing it.

00:56:41.440 You have to stop.

00:56:43.100 Uh, let's see here.

00:56:44.520 Uh, Joe McDermott says, uh, our far right MAGA DHS is super concerned about radical discrimination.

00:56:50.440 So how about caring about what happened to Cincinnati again?

00:56:54.960 So many different, so many different.

00:56:58.760 Um, examples where we could be using the power of the federal government to punish the left

00:57:04.180 for hurting Americans.

00:57:06.320 And right now he's, you know, he's talking about the, the beat down, uh, several, uh,

00:57:11.220 people received, uh, during the jazz festival, I believe.

00:57:14.440 Uh, I'm pretty sure that was Cincinnati.

00:57:16.260 Uh, I did talk about it here recently, uh, where, where was, uh, several white people who

00:57:21.060 were beaten in that scenario, but we're not using that leverage, right?

00:57:25.140 Maybe they will, maybe they will.

00:57:26.440 But you know, the point is, uh, there's a lot of leverage that could be brought against

00:57:30.400 people who are hurting American Americans.

00:57:32.640 And instead we're caring about discrimination against a foreign country.

00:57:36.740 Uh, not a great look, not what you were elected to do at all.

00:57:40.720 Uh, so stop.

00:57:43.020 Uh, Matt Greer says, how much longer can Israel, uh, interests dictate our foreign, uh, and even

00:57:48.420 now domestic policy seems like this issue is coming to a head and the young conservative

00:57:52.280 base.

00:57:52.680 It's unavoidable at this point.

00:57:54.060 Yeah.

00:57:54.220 And that's, that's the thing, right?

00:57:55.140 This is a generational thing.

00:57:56.600 A lot of people were raised on the idea, you know, dispensationalism in evangelical Christianity

00:58:01.620 was very powerful.

00:58:03.480 Uh, obviously we all saw Ted Cruz talking about how he ran for Senate to be the most powerful

00:58:08.340 protector of Israel.

00:58:09.540 Like, obviously this is deeply baked into a certain generation in the United States, but

00:58:13.900 up and coming conservatives just don't want to deal with this anymore.

00:58:18.080 We want to serve America.

00:58:19.920 We want to put America first.

00:58:21.120 Okay.

00:58:21.900 And, and I think people are just fed up with it.

00:58:24.180 That doesn't mean people want to hate another country or a people, but they're tired of

00:58:28.240 having, obviously our policies wrapped around this country.

00:58:31.240 You can't, you can't issue a directive like that and tell me that you're not wrapping our

00:58:34.980 domestic policy around a foreign government.

00:58:37.760 It's not even a foreign nation.

00:58:39.100 It's specifically a government, right?

00:58:41.520 I'm not, I'm not sworn to protect the government of Vladimir Zelensky.

00:58:45.320 I'm not sworn to protect the government of, you know, Keir Starmer.

00:58:49.440 I'm not sworn to protect the government of Benjamin Netanyahu.

00:58:52.900 I'm sorry.

00:58:53.360 Like, that's just not how this should work.

00:58:55.340 And that's certainly not how a party, one that has especially been talking about how

00:58:58.640 it's a nationalist focused party.

00:59:00.680 Now, if we are nationalists, then we should be caring about our nation and other nations

00:59:05.840 only interact with us to the extent that it's beneficial for us.

00:59:08.880 But it's obviously not beneficial if we're cutting off aid, disaster aid.

00:59:13.340 How does that benefit Americans?

00:59:14.840 It doesn't.

00:59:15.640 And everyone notices.

00:59:19.400 Weird E-curb says, wait, I don't have to support Islamic extremisms just because I'm

00:59:23.580 not a fan of Israel influence in our foreign policy.

00:59:25.900 I'm confused.

00:59:26.480 How's that work?

00:59:26.940 Yeah, it's amazing.

00:59:28.060 And the dumbest thing is not only is this a charge leveled at people who are like,

00:59:32.860 oh, maybe I don't want Israel dictating, you know, domestic policy as to who gets

00:59:36.780 disaster aid.

00:59:37.540 And it's also obviously leveled at people who truly believe this stuff.

00:59:41.060 There are, unfortunately, people who are on, quote unquote, the right, who actually make

00:59:45.600 this argument.

00:59:47.020 Like, sorry, I'll just say, I've heard groopers make this argument.

00:59:49.580 So we got to back Palestine.

00:59:51.080 We got to, you know, the Fuentes crowd.

00:59:53.360 We got to, we got to, we got to back Palestine because they're against Israel.

00:59:56.300 No, actually, you don't.

00:59:57.860 You don't have to support like any foreign people who hate you.

01:00:02.300 And they do, they do hate you.

01:00:04.660 Like, you don't actually have to back either of these parties.

01:00:07.820 There is no way.

01:00:09.300 Like, I'm sorry.

01:00:10.160 Islam is the enemy of Christianity.

01:00:12.400 I don't want it in my country.

01:00:13.940 I don't want Islamic politicians running for office here.

01:00:16.600 I don't want us importing more Muslims.

01:00:18.900 And I don't want the Muslims who are here to have any level of cultural dominance at all.

01:00:24.260 You can call that whatever you want.

01:00:26.140 I don't want it.

01:00:27.420 It's not my country.

01:00:29.040 It's not my culture.

01:00:30.340 It's not my religion.

01:00:31.700 I don't have to support these people.

01:00:33.380 I don't have to put up with it.

01:00:35.180 So no, I don't have to back, you know, people in Saudi Arabia or, you know, Qatar or whatever,

01:00:41.640 Palestine.

01:00:42.520 I don't have to back any of these people.

01:00:44.340 I don't have to believe they're my friends.

01:00:45.800 I don't have to believe they're my allies.

01:00:47.320 I don't have to do any of it.

01:00:49.260 You don't have to choose between foreign powers.

01:00:52.060 This is the United States.

01:00:53.800 In theory, we run the world.

01:00:55.300 We should be able to choose us every time.

01:00:58.980 We didn't have to choose foreign peoples.

01:01:01.080 We shouldn't.

01:01:01.800 Either way.

01:01:04.480 Principled Uncertainty says, again, the AI and foreigners will destroy us.

01:01:09.340 Good luck.

01:01:10.140 Well, I'm certainly hoping that neither of those things is true.

01:01:13.020 And working hard to make sure that neither of those things are true.

01:01:16.000 But it is certainly going to be an uphill battle.

01:01:19.000 I'm not quite that blackpilled yet.

01:01:20.600 And Thimpler says, put libs in digital utopia lockers where their policies magically work far away from us.

01:01:27.560 Not the worst idea, actually.

01:01:28.920 I can kind of get on board with this.

01:01:30.780 Like, all right, you want to be in the pod.

01:01:32.980 You want to eat the bugs.

01:01:34.020 Put on the AI headset.

01:01:35.420 Waste away over there.

01:01:36.560 Look.

01:01:36.900 Oh, socialism works over here.

01:01:39.280 Great.

01:01:39.580 Fantastic.

01:01:40.340 The Christian Muslim Alliance.

01:01:41.820 That works over here.

01:01:42.440 Good for you.

01:01:43.280 Yeah.

01:01:43.440 Yeah.

01:01:43.560 That works in your little digital realm.

01:01:45.320 Good for you.

01:01:46.080 Here in the real world, we're going to implement policies that actually work.

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01:01:52.540 We're going to prioritize Christianity.

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01:01:56.840 So here in the real world, we'll put our policies into place.

01:02:00.120 And then you can take your socialism and your, like, hatred of America and all that stuff.

01:02:04.840 And you can just live in your little realm where all that actually works out for you.

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The Auron MacIntyre Show - August 06, 2025

Trump Admin Blocks Disaster Aid to Americans Over Israel ｜ 8⧸6⧸25

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