The Auron MacIntyre Show - Trump Angers the Big Clown Lobby ｜ 7⧸11⧸25

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00:00:14.860 Hey everybody, how's it going? Thanks for joining me this afternoon. I am Oren McIntyre.

00:00:21.380 Today, we've got a really interesting slate of stories. Donald Trump has angered the big

00:00:28.760 clown lobby. That's right, big clown is coming after Donald Trump. We also found out that Elon 0.99

00:00:35.640 Musk has been meeting with Curtis Yarvin, so that NRX pipeline is moving even faster than perhaps I

00:00:44.220 had originally anticipated. And finally, Sam Harris has finally found a faith that he can truly believe

00:00:53.240 in, something he can completely embrace. And yes, it does basically violate every principle that he

00:01:00.180 has fought for his entire life, but I bet you can't guess what he was willing to throw all those

00:01:06.300 principles away for. Well, you probably can, but we'll get to it in just a second. Sorry,

00:01:12.520 I know I'm still off camera. I'm mostly over this cold now. Knock me down for a few days there. I

00:01:18.900 thought it was going to be over it faster. I'm almost through it, but I'm still coughing,

00:01:23.560 blowing my nose a little bit. So I don't want to be doing that on camera. So we're still off camera

00:01:27.720 here, but I should be back on Monday or dead. One of the two, but we'll find out, I guess.

00:01:33.080 But let's start with the easiest story first. So New York Times came out with a piece. Oh no,

00:01:41.960 oh no. Curtis Yarvin is meeting with Donald or sorry, with Elon Musk. Now I've talked about this

00:01:49.600 a few times. Elon Musk is trying to start this new America party. He got into this big knockdown drag

00:01:56.100 out with Donald Trump after getting in a knockdown drag out with Donald Trump's supporters. This was

00:02:02.040 always a tenuous relationship. I hope eventually they do patch this up, but he does seem to be moving

00:02:07.940 forward with at some level, uh, the, the actual, uh, creation of this party. And so we decided to

00:02:15.320 consult somebody who is widely known as a very insightful political, uh, theorist in our current

00:02:21.680 day, which is Curtis Yarvin. Uh, and of course, New York times freaked out. They wrote a piece about

00:02:27.000 how racist Curtis Yarvin is, and he's a monarchist. And can you believe Elon Musk is talking to this guy?

00:02:33.140 And well, yeah, of course he's talking to this guy. Curtis is if known, if for anything being

00:02:38.920 big in Silicon Valley, right? These Peter Thiel and these kinds of guys well-connected in a lot of

00:02:44.940 those, uh, circles. And so of course, Elon Musk tech doc tech guy says, I'm going to look at politics.

00:02:52.200 He's probably going to run into Curtis Yarvin at some point. Now, the very funny thing about the

00:02:57.420 Elon Musk, Curtis Yarvin meeting is we don't know exactly what took place inside of it. I have no

00:03:02.940 insider knowledge here other than being very familiar with Curtis's work, but, uh, immediately

00:03:09.800 after the meeting, Elon Musk unfollowed Curtis Yarvin on Twitter. Uh, so it probably didn't

00:03:16.760 go super well, which is exactly what you would expect. Again, I have no insider knowledge, uh, but,

00:03:23.100 but knowing Curtis and knowing, uh, kind of what he would probably talk to Elon about, he probably

00:03:28.540 walked in there and, you know, just hit him right away with, look, democracy is a joke. Uh, it's an

00:03:33.540 absolute clown show. And the third party is just the saddest clown in the troop, right? Uh, not, not 0.99

00:03:39.680 to play too heavily off of our next story here, but just, just probably went in there and gave them

00:03:44.560 the very political realist understanding that ultimately you're not going to get anything done.

00:03:50.400 This is a waste of your time. If you wanted to take over something, just take over the Republican

00:03:55.760 party, use Donald Trump as a vehicle to the extent that you can. Uh, I think that's what Elon Musk

00:04:00.880 ultimately was trying to do and maybe found out that he did not, uh, purchase a politician as

00:04:06.180 thoroughly as he had expected with Donald Trump, uh, and was disappointed in those results. And the

00:04:11.920 fact that the MAGA base also very clearly opposes Elon Musk's, what seems to be more or less open

00:04:17.820 borders policy. I mean, don't get me wrong. He, sorry, the legal open borders policy. Elon Musk

00:04:23.200 wants a billion Americans. Uh, most of them flown in from India, but like legally though. Uh, and so

00:04:29.740 that, that was a big problem for Elon Musk. He obviously got a big pushback during Christmas when

00:04:34.680 he attempted to say, we need all of these H1Bs and H1Bs and immigrants. They build everything here.

00:04:39.580 And, and, uh, you know, I can't use the language he used on Twitter, but a lot of F you in the face.

00:04:44.540 If you don't want every illegal or you don't want every, uh, immigrant here, uh, through some H1B 1.00

00:04:50.540 program. And so I imagine that basically Curtis just sat him down and said, this whole idea is

00:04:55.580 ridiculous. And that's not what Elon Musk wanted to hear. Uh, so he immediately kind of threw, 0.51

00:05:00.160 threw Yarvin out of the boat. Now I got a feeling that eventually Elon's going to come around on this

00:05:06.520 issue. If he actually continues to involve himself in politics. Remember guys, people can be extremely

00:05:12.080 intelligent inside of, uh, their discipline and not understand the general world. There are lots of

00:05:21.580 really, really smart people who have no clue about politics as we see time and time again. Uh, and so

00:05:27.720 just because Elon Musk is very smart and very capable in other areas, uh, even if he has a decent

00:05:33.340 operating knowledge of dealing with government because of his contracts and everything else he has

00:05:37.920 to work with, that doesn't mean he has an accurate understanding of political dynamics. And Curtis

00:05:42.980 Yarvin is somebody who tells people basically the politics, as you understand, it doesn't work.

00:05:48.500 And since Elon Musk is basically running like the oldest of, uh, you know, kind of bad strategies and

00:05:56.000 trying to do this third party thing, uh, that that's clearly not what he wanted to hear, uh, when he was

00:06:01.120 talking to Curtis Yarvin, but that's probably exactly what he got, uh, when, when they were discussing

00:06:06.280 this. So he was not super happy probably to hear that from Curtis, but it's the kind of thing that

00:06:11.780 you'd get. So maybe Elon will continue down this road. Maybe, you know, the, the, the disillusionment

00:06:17.740 is part of embracing the NRX understanding of, uh, democracy. So you, you have to kind of break

00:06:23.800 yourselves on the rocks of democracy first, before you are willing to kind of take on many of those

00:06:29.560 truths. Uh, so it'll be interesting to see how that develops, but it was just very funny because the

00:06:34.640 New York times ran this, like, ah, you know, the evil bizarre fascism, Curtis Yarvin is showing up

00:06:41.140 to Elon's thing. And, uh, you know, it turns out that actually like they, they just, you know,

00:06:46.880 he didn't like him at all and kind of immediately dropped him. So that was pretty funny. All right.

00:06:51.860 So, uh, that said, let's get into our actual, uh, first story here, uh, which is this article

00:06:59.300 from the New York times. I promise I did not make this up. This is not fake. Uh, it is hilarious.

00:07:04.320 It is stupid. Um, but it is not, it is not fake. This did appear in the New York times 1.00

00:07:09.700 and the, uh, article is entitled Donald Trump is not a clown. I should know real crown clowns 0.97

00:07:16.360 bring joy to the world, not chaos to Washington. So yes, this is an anti-Trump op-ed appearing 0.58

00:07:23.320 in the New York times pinned by a literal clown. Like it, I know we call this clown world. Uh, 0.98

00:07:32.320 but, but here we are like, this is actual political commentary from a literal clown, not just a clown 0.97

00:07:40.260 to be clear. This is the clown. Okay. He is a professional clown and runs, uh, the, the, uh, 0.99

00:07:48.040 clowns without borders. So he's a globalist clown even better. 1.00

00:07:51.420 So yeah, so we have this globalist clown. He's the, he's the head of big clown is running 0.99

00:08:00.520 the clown unions. He's got the clown clout. This is the, you know, this, this is the true 1.00

00:08:05.340 king of comedy here. Uh, and so, uh, he is very offended obviously that Donald Trump is

00:08:11.560 being called a clown because being clown is not an insult. Uh, which is really funny because 0.88

00:08:16.140 I think the first aspect of being a clown is probably not taking yourself seriously. Uh, 0.62

00:08:21.640 but you know, uh, it's politics and it, you know, he can opine. So he gets to go in the

00:08:27.160 New York times. That's, that's the level of seriousness with which the New York times

00:08:31.940 vets its op-ed contributors. Uh, so let's get into the piece here. Uh, 10 Cunningham, our,

00:08:38.060 our author is the board president of clowns without borders, a nonprofit that performs clown

00:08:43.320 shows for communities facing hardship. Because if I am without water somewhere in sub-Saharan

00:08:50.720 Africa, the first thing I want to see is a pasty dude, uh, making balloon animals. Uh, 1.00

00:08:57.620 but here we go. Allegations that president Donald Trump is a clownish figure are not hard to come 0.96

00:09:04.060 by. Political strategist, James Carville referred to Trump's administration as the clown show after 0.98

00:09:09.400 Homeland security secretary, Kristi Noem gave an incorrect definition of habeas corpus during a

00:09:15.680 Senate hearing in response to the president. I mean, Joe Biden couldn't anyway. Well, why,

00:09:22.200 why, why even bother? Uh, in response to the president retreating, uh, from both his, uh,

00:09:27.760 heavy tariff plan and his nomination of Ed Martin to be U S attorney for the district of Columbia, 0.94

00:09:33.800 MSNBC commentator, Lawrence O'Donnell called the president a humiliating clown.

00:09:37.900 And when the president made himself the focal, uh, point of laughter in June by hosting a military, 0.82

00:09:42.900 uh, birthday military celebration to a lackluster crowd in DC, uh, hundreds of demonstrators across

00:09:49.920 the country participated in kick out the clown, a protest, which, uh, they describe as a nationwide

00:09:55.240 counter circus to the president's tacky parade. Uh, so just wondering here, uh, if you're making fun

00:10:03.160 of a lack of attendance at the military parade, which I thought was pretty cool. Most people I know,

00:10:07.900 that was pretty cool. Um, you're hundreds of demonstrators across the country. So you got

00:10:14.360 a couple of hundred people across 50 States. So a few, a few demonstrators per state, if we're

00:10:22.020 equally distributing this and you're knocking Donald Trump's attendance when you can't get anyone

00:10:28.560 to show up to your own protests, but none of this qualifies Trump for such a title. I am a clown 0.98

00:10:34.580 and a board president of the nonprofit clowns without borders. And I'm here to set the record 0.99

00:10:39.780 straight. Yeah. We can't be besmirching, uh, the good name of clowns with Donald Trump, right? Yeah.

00:10:45.720 It's the, the creepy carny workers, uh, you know, usually assumed to, uh, you know, be completely

00:10:52.420 drunk and possibly involving themselves, uh, in, in, uh, inappropriate activity. Yeah. We, we,

00:10:58.700 we wouldn't want to besmirch their, their, their well, well, uh, uh, regarded character, right?

00:11:07.000 He says, I have performed as a professional clown for 24 years. Uh, I mean, I don't know, man, if

00:11:13.440 you do you right. I guess somewhere somebody has to make money doing this, but if you have dedicated

00:11:19.980 24 years of your life to wearing makeup and, uh, you know, uh, making a balloon animal for children,

00:11:28.660 maybe, maybe don't be so self-righteous. Don't, don't think that you're, uh, somebody who should

00:11:34.540 be opining on the character of the president. Maybe just stick to being a drunk that wanders from town

00:11:41.760 to town, uh, to perform, uh, you know, uh, at children's birthday parties, uh, clown with a capital

00:11:48.240 sea is a valuable and varied art form, uh, pantomimes, acrobats, uh, magicians, dancers,

00:11:56.260 standup comedians, vaudeville artists, and jugglers are all examples of artists who incorporate clown

00:12:01.300 into their work. Is this a real thing where they just, like, it's clown, like they don't call it

00:12:06.800 clowning or anything. It's this really self-important. I, I practice the art of clown. Is that, is that

00:12:13.980 really the verbiage that we're using? I mean, I guess if you formed a professional

00:12:18.180 society around it, then yeah, you are that pretentious, but again, just as a guy in

00:12:22.880 grease paint, who's juggling in front of children, maybe, maybe try to back off a bit, a little 0.90

00:12:27.020 with it there, uh, whether you know it or, uh, know it as clown or not, you've likely seen it

00:12:32.960 from stage clowns, such as Bill Irwin to the care characters of Cirque, uh, Cirque de Soleil,

00:12:40.600 uh, why can't I, Cirque Soleil, right? Isn't that how you say it? I don't know. I'm, I'm not good at

00:12:44.740 this, uh, created by masters such as, uh, Michelle Matlock and, uh, Mookie Cornish

00:12:51.340 from, uh, pedagogical ensembles such as Pig Iron or Spy Monkey, uh, to healthcare clown organizations

00:12:59.320 such as the, uh, the Laughter League and Healthy Humor. Clown is huge. Yes, uh, it, clown is huge, 0.95

00:13:08.520 I suppose. Uh, clown demands years, if not a lifetime of study. Okay, buddy. 0.93

00:13:17.500 Clown requires a lifetime of study? 0.98

00:13:23.760 I'm sorry, but what the heck? Like, what, what are, what are you doing? What are you doing 0.97

00:13:28.600 with your life, man? It's already embarrassing that this is something you've dedicated your

00:13:31.620 life, too. Uh, but, but the insane amount of pretension and the need to feel to lecture,

00:13:37.060 uh, everyone, like, I know this is the New York Times and this is what it does, right? Like,

00:13:41.360 it runs overly pretentious people attacking middle America somewhere, uh, but you, you have literally 1.00

00:13:48.060 dedicated yourself to the art of being an idiot in front of children, which, fine, if you make some 0.99

00:13:54.720 people happy than good, I guess, ultimately. But just, really, I mean, I don't know, man. I, I've, 1.00

00:14:01.060 I've done, I, I would never even talk about my own profession this way. Like, I, I have to dedicate

00:14:06.240 my life to the reading and commentation of, of, on books. Like, it's just something, it's something I

00:14:12.020 do, I do for work. I don't consider it, like, a sacred art. Uh, but, you know, I, I guess I'm no clown,

00:14:17.980 so there's that. Consider the physical curiosity of Charlie Chaplin and Buster Keaton or the

00:14:26.000 impeccable, uh, comedic timing of Mr. Bean. What's more, clown is not an, an invention of the modern

00:14:32.640 era. Several ancient indigenous cultures, uh, uh, revere a sacred clown figure. For example, the, 0.72

00:14:40.380 I'm not even going to attempt to pronounce that word. I guess it's from the Sioux Indians. Uh, people 1.00

00:14:46.260 celebrate, uh, the, hey, Yoka, an honorable, uh, community member who uses, uh, humor to shed light

00:14:53.320 on societal problems. Yeah. It's called a jester, right? Like, yes, this is, it's true that this is

00:14:58.780 a recurring figure, right? There is, uh, a good bit of truth that the archetype itself is important,

00:15:04.720 right? Like, uh, that, that there is someone who can be ridiculous. Uh, but one of the things that a 0.95

00:15:10.460 ridiculous, you know, the jester does is reveal, uh, you know, the hilarious things the leaders do, 0.83

00:15:17.420 right? They shame them by like, kind of being able to speak the truth because they are the idiot. 1.00

00:15:22.320 That's the archetype. That's the idiot, the, the jester, they, they, because they are in this position 1.00

00:15:28.480 of being a joke, they can say things to people in power, uh, that are, uh, somehow revealing. 1.00

00:15:35.440 They, they speak a truth that no one else can speak because you can't really hold the clown

00:15:39.200 accountable, right? This is always, this is kind of what the John Stewart or the Babylon Bee guys do.

00:15:43.780 It's like the clown knows on clown knows off thing, right? That's kind of always been the problem.

00:15:48.080 They, they, they play the role of the clown. Hey, I'm just a clown. I'm a, I'm a comedian. I'm a joker, 0.96

00:15:53.200 right? I'm, I'm, I'm this archetype of, of mixing it up. And so you can't really, you can't really

00:15:57.960 attack me because of whatever I'm saying is a joke. But then the minute that they want to make a serious

00:16:02.360 statement, the clown knows comes off and it's a, well, actually I'm a self-righteous crusader and I,

00:16:07.040 I have very serious opinions and I should be able to debate and discuss and be taken very seriously 0.58

00:16:12.680 in the public square. Unless you point out, I said something stupid and then I'm a clown again and 0.99

00:16:17.560 Hong Kong, look at me, right? Like that, like you can't really argue anything I'm saying because at 0.99

00:16:22.440 the end of the day, I'm wearing the clown makeup. If you're, if you're trying to take on this archetype,

00:16:27.540 you're supposed to remain funny. You're supposed to remain the fool, right? That that's what cloaks 1.00

00:16:33.180 you in this ability to speak these truths. The minute you take the clown nose off, the minute

00:16:37.980 you try to be serious, the minute you write an article for the New York times about the serious

00:16:42.180 nature of clown, uh, you've kind of broken that whole facade. You've broken out of that archetype

00:16:47.660 and opened yourself back up to kind of standard criticism about what you're doing. And so now we're

00:16:54.400 in the scenario where this guy is trying to act as if the, you know, very, uh, profession he's

00:16:59.820 talking about that goes back for, you know, pre, uh, presenting these humorous situations is actually

00:17:06.280 the most serious thing in the world. You can also see here that there's a, you know, I've always

00:17:16.900 wondered this, this is a very fascinating problem. So do, do black clowns wearing traditional clown 1.00

00:17:24.260 makeup. Are they in white face? Is that offensive? If a, if you're a black guy, I imagine there's 0.99

00:17:31.120 not a lot of black clowns. I don't think that's probably a profession that a lot of, uh, black 1.00

00:17:35.660 gentlemen get into, but if you, if you follow, find yourself in the scenario and you put on the

00:17:40.900 white grease paint, is that a hate crime of some time like type or are you, are you racially 0.55

00:17:47.240 insensitive or are you culturally appropriating, uh, the skin color of the white man? 0.98

00:17:54.260 Obviously we see here that this, uh, this black clown is himself, uh, still without the grease 1.00

00:17:59.760 paint, but it seems like the woman behind him also is not. I understand that that's not always 0.94

00:18:03.800 something that clowns do. So, uh, maybe he did. Yeah. At first I was like, well, maybe he chose not 0.95

00:18:08.640 to wear it because of the crowd, the, uh, crowd of Zimbabwean, uh, children, uh, that he is performing

00:18:15.140 for, but perhaps that is simply a part of the, uh, of the decision there. Uh, let's see back to our

00:18:22.580 article. All clown shares the same common values of healing, empathy, and reflection. So this is, uh,

00:18:30.540 there's always this attempt to unify, uh, and globalize these things. If you, so, so you notice

00:18:36.660 what he did here, he goes down like, oh, it's an indigenous, you know, here's the tie to this 1.00

00:18:40.460 indigenous art form and you can see it manifested across these different, uh, cultures. Uh, but

00:18:46.800 then he's like, well, there's this, this, uh, unified, uh, value. How do you have a unified value

00:18:52.460 of this deep, uh, deeply particular and cultural, uh, tradition? Like what, what is that? Did you get

00:19:00.140 together? Was there a clown council? Did you drop the, the clown Magna Carta? Uh, what, what, 0.97

00:19:05.940 when did we arrive at these common values? Uh, where the, where the tribal ancestors who were

00:19:12.940 being jesters, did they know about, uh, your, your shared, uh, clown values? I've witnessed the 0.91

00:19:19.120 smiles that clowns bring to the faces of people in hospitals, war zones, and refugee camps and 0.54

00:19:23.700 homeless shelters. I got to say, man, I get the hospital thing. Look, I, I find clowns to be a

00:19:29.260 little off-putting, but I'm not afraid of them, but I, it's not something I'm going to enjoy. I'm like,

00:19:33.880 oh boy, a clown. But you know, if you're making a kid in a hospital smile, then fine. Good. Right. 0.95

00:19:39.380 Uh, but if I'm in a war zone or a refugee, especially a refugee camp and someone shows up

00:19:44.860 with a clown, um, no, no, poor, some poor refugees sitting there, like watch, watch his family get 0.96

00:19:54.200 blown away. Right. Like watch, watch the, you know, his, his, his children starve, uh, waste away in 0.99

00:20:01.240 front of him. Uh, but now some dude in, in like a rubber nose is, is juggling and, uh, like, uh,

00:20:07.480 pulling, uh, you know, uh, uh, handkerchiefs out of someone's ear. Uh, no, please, please don't do

00:20:12.920 that. In May, I traveled to Beirut. See, yeah, no, no traveled to Beirut, uh, and work with local

00:20:19.100 clowns. Is there like a local, like an on the ground clown deployment? It's, uh, like, like the, you 0.86

00:20:25.960 know, the, the league of Beirut clowns, is there, can you check in with a local, uh, clown 0.68

00:20:30.640 constabulary? Like, how does that, how does that even work to share levity and playfulness

00:20:34.920 with children living under the constant threat of bombardment? Um, what happens if you're bombed

00:20:40.140 while you're there? Like, is it, is it a clown? Uh, is there a clown shelter? Uh, what if you do 0.94

00:20:45.300 your shoes fit when you have to like get into the clown shop? Is that like a real concern?

00:20:49.920 I don't, I don't know. Uh, can you run from, from the bombing in the clown shoes?

00:20:54.780 What if you're just, you know, you're like, that would be funny, funny, but tragic, right?

00:20:59.360 Like they're like bombing a hospital where this clown is performing for children. He's 0.89

00:21:03.160 like running in the hallway and just like trips and falls and like his seltzer bottle

00:21:08.160 goes spraying down, down the hallway. After our shows, uh, their teachers told us that they

00:21:15.480 saw a life in their student's eyes, which they have not seen, uh, since before.

00:21:20.340 October 23rd. Look, if ultimately they're helping children out, I hope that's the case. I,

00:21:24.840 again, your kid in Beirut and clown shows up. I don't know, man. Is there anything else you 0.96

00:21:29.900 could have shown up with any, anything else? But I guess you got to take what you can get

00:21:33.900 at that point. Uh, this area of clown is called humiliate humanitarian clowning, uh, which clowns 0.97

00:21:44.760 without borders has specialized in for more than 30 years. Uh, really that sounds like a 0.89

00:21:49.900 threat clowns without borders. Sounds like a sinister organization, right? Like that's, 0.90

00:21:53.620 uh, that could be a villainous organization. Uh, we are clowns without borders. Uh, we are 0.99

00:21:58.240 coming to your town. Uh, we, we are taken over, uh, clowns without borders. We are the CWB 0.99

00:22:04.520 as it's known, I suppose. Has 13 operational chapters around the world. Our budgets are

00:22:09.900 small. You know, you know, I thought it was big clown. What is this? Small budgets? Is 0.95

00:22:14.560 there a, is there a, a shortage? Well, is it cause they cut USAID? Is that what this

00:22:19.420 is? Is that why we got this article? USAID is no longer funding big clown. They've had

00:22:24.380 to, they had to trim down their globalist clown budgets. The, the clown bureaus around the 0.96

00:22:28.520 world are starved of funds, uh, because USAID is no longer doling out, uh, this globalist 0.90

00:22:35.240 cloud funding, clown funding. Uh, but our reach is broad. We perform for thousands of people

00:22:41.700 living in refugee camps, but we also craft an act, uh, for an odd, for an audience of one.

00:22:47.640 In rural Haiti, I watched a child receive medical care without pain medication to clean second

00:22:54.840 degree burns on his back, laughed through the procedure because he was distracted by a clown.

00:23:00.240 I was going to make a, a, uh, a balloon animal joke here, but I will not because a child was

00:23:05.600 burned. I've seen hundreds of, uh, I'm not sure how to pronounce that. Uh, children dance with an 0.99

00:23:11.240 ensemble of clowns while their homes in Myanmar smoldered in the background.

00:23:17.640 Uh, why not put out the homes? Like you guys, like you have a, like a seltzer bottle, right? 0.95

00:23:26.040 Can you spray the homes? Can you, can you put out the fire? I mean, I'm sure the clown performance

00:23:30.920 is nice, but, but if their homes are burning, can, can you help put them out? I seems like the first,

00:23:37.840 the first priority there. Uh, clowns are more than children's birthday party performers. Uh, 0.97

00:23:43.400 they are not sorry. Sorry. I know you've dedicated your life to this, but no, that is,

00:23:48.840 that is what they are. Um, uh, we help people relax, heal and prompt others to think differently

00:23:55.540 about the world. Uh, first, um, uh, no one is looking for a clown to relax. Uh, clowns are famously

00:24:03.300 creepy, famously off-putting. Uh, very few people actually like them in many ways. They are a relic of 0.63

00:24:09.500 the past. Uh, no one is like, Oh, this clown is really helping me to unwind, man. I'm finally, 0.95

00:24:15.360 I was so stressed out, but then this really terrifying looking guy showed up and creeped me

00:24:20.400 out. Uh, smelled a lot of, of cheap booze. I, yeah, that, that really helped me unwind after,

00:24:26.400 you know, my house burned out or whatever. Uh, also, uh, think differently about the world.

00:24:31.640 This is, so this is the most amazing and annoying thing about progressives. They are all so self

00:24:37.820 important, right? It's my profession changes the world. My profession changes the world,

00:24:43.300 everything. I'm always about changing people's minds and changing the way they know you are a

00:24:48.920 cartoon. You are a jester. You are a joke. Literally. You are a joke, a professional joke. 0.88

00:24:56.020 You do not help people see the world differently. You're a guy in a creepy outfit doing a handstand. 0.99

00:25:03.220 No one is changing their worldview here. You are not changing lives. Maybe you give someone some

00:25:08.820 laughs. Maybe you alleviate a difficult moment. And in that moment, good on you, man, but I'm sorry.

00:25:14.440 No, you are not changing the way people see the world. Get over yourself.

00:25:26.020 Just before the 2010 Haitian earthquake, uh, the clowns without borders was invited to perform in 0.92

00:25:32.460 a communal section of Port-au-Prince called Mardiscent. Uh, two warring gangs controlled the 0.75

00:25:37.760 area, but both groups, one of their children to see the clowns, uh, we were granted access to safely

00:25:44.100 perform for both gangs and their children, a collective recognition that no matter who you are,

00:25:49.620 you want your children to experience joy. So this is like the Christmas truce, right? Like both

00:25:54.620 Haitian gangs stop like eating the, uh, flesh of their opponents, uh, to like watch the clowns 0.99

00:26:03.300 perform. Uh, is there, does the clown have to worry that he may become a snack? Like what is the, 0.92

00:26:10.340 what is the protocol for performing for Haitian gangs, which are often celebrating their victories

00:26:15.380 with cannibalism? Like, do you have to worry about that? Are you just so gross that they would

00:26:19.540 never touch you? I don't know. Um, yet our joyful work has been diminished into an insult. Yes, 0.99

00:26:27.260 yes, it is a joke. That's the whole point. Don't take yourself seriously. That's the point.

00:26:35.320 Every election season, the word clown resurfaces to compare tumultuous Washington politics to a

00:26:42.020 circus. Political commentators and social media users are not the only ones who wrongfully

00:26:47.040 sling this jibe. Clown is the most used by almost everyone to belittle those seen as foolish or 0.96

00:26:53.580 incompetent. The more we mistreat the word, the more we lose understanding of the sacred art form. No, 0.98

00:27:00.820 first, it's not a sacred art form. You're not a shaman. You're not a priest. You're not someone

00:27:07.760 who's changing the world. You're a grown man who dedicated yourself to being a joke. Now,

00:27:13.820 the whole reason that there is even a sacred nature to this, I will, I will say there is a,

00:27:18.760 there's a sacred nature to the archetype. Again, the, the fool, the jester, these are real things 0.97

00:27:25.120 that manifest themselves across time and space. There is a real truth to them having some sacred 0.99

00:27:30.440 significance. However, the whole point, again, the whole point, the only reason the clown has any 0.83

00:27:36.540 role to play in society is that he is the joke. The clown can say things no one else can say. 0.74

00:27:43.480 The clown can point out things that no one else can point out. The clown can even make fun of and 0.95

00:27:49.860 bring to earth the most powerful people in the world because he's not serious because he has no 0.99

00:27:57.200 social standing because he is a joke. He is the lowest of the low. He is the, he had, and when it 0.93

00:28:03.240 comes to pecking order, when it comes to honor, when it comes to social standing, he is the very bottom.

00:28:08.960 And because of that, because there's no lower for him to go, he can make fun of the king because the 0.97

00:28:16.260 king is going to look silly. The king is going to look like an idiot. The clinic, the king is going 1.00

00:28:21.000 to look foolish himself. If he gets mad at the clown, because everyone looks at the clown and knows that 0.99

00:28:27.380 the clown cannot get any lower. There's nothing that king can do to the clown to make him less 0.93

00:28:33.340 important, less serious, less, uh, you know, um, reduces standing anywhere in society. I mean, 0.89

00:28:40.940 he can kill him, I guess, but that just makes them look petty, right? The whole reason the clown 0.99

00:28:45.300 has a sacred archetype, the jester, the fool, the reason they exist in their, that space and are given 0.97

00:28:51.960 the power they have is that they have no other power, no other standing. This guy wants to have it 0.95

00:28:58.260 both ways, right? He wants to elevate himself. I don't insult my profession by tying us to these

00:29:03.820 bad people. Uh, you know, don't, don't use our names as an insult, but also I should be able to

00:29:09.660 inhabit the sacred archetype. No, you have to choose one or the other. The sacredness of the archetype,

00:29:14.840 ironically, is defined by its low status.

00:29:17.880 So let's find a metaphor to despise. And so let's find a better metaphor to despise and dispose

00:29:26.620 fascism. Because of course, Trump is a fascist. You see, even though this guy is a professional loser, 1.00

00:29:32.300 like even though he's a professional joke, it's important for him as a progressive to take on 1.00

00:29:39.500 the battle against fascism, because that's what every one of these idiots talks about constantly, 1.00

00:29:45.580 right? Now, of course, if Trump was a fascist at all, guys like this wouldn't exist. The paper 1.00

00:29:50.920 wouldn't exist, but whatever, right? Facts are irrelevant. Anything that is not radical leftism

00:29:55.960 is fascism. Um, and so that, that's just going to be the way that they address anything that

00:30:01.380 opposes them. Keep clown out of Trumpian comparisons. And for that matter, all politics

00:30:08.480 offer clown the respect it deserves and invoke us for good in alliance with other artists,

00:30:15.780 activists, and humans who believe in a better, happier world. So again, he's an activist, right?

00:30:21.680 That's, that's what he's getting to at the end of the day is a political activist who happens to have

00:30:26.740 a clown nose on, uh, which is what all of these activists should have. Uh, but ultimately, you know,

00:30:32.620 he wants, he wants to inhabit this, uh, this, uh, sacred form of being a joke while having, uh, a

00:30:39.640 level of respect. That's not how it works for centuries. Clowns have been uniting people in

00:30:44.440 laughter, levity, and creativity. And, uh, that's what real clowns have to offer. If you're still 0.94

00:30:49.960 stuck on the broken comparison ingrained in our national dialogue, here's an alternative. Try

00:30:54.920 buffoon. Uh, you know, uh, obviously this is a stupid article, but you know, we've, we've had a heavy 1.00

00:31:00.580 week. We've had, uh, Jeffrey Epstein and we've had, uh, you know, possible amnesty and all this other 0.98

00:31:06.560 stuff. Uh, so I thought it would be good to, to go through the joke, uh, here and read this instead.

00:31:12.640 All right. So our other, uh, topic for today is Sam Harris. So, uh, we can transition to another clown.

00:31:21.020 See what I did there. Okay. Uh, so Sam Harris obviously is extremely self-important, right? Uh, this guy is, 0.97

00:31:29.220 uh, known as this, uh, you know, meditation group guru and the scientist and this like extreme new

00:31:37.720 atheist, uh, you know, uh, guy hates religion, uh, thinks it's all a joke, uh, you know, once, wants to

00:31:44.580 attack it at every step. And Sam Harris spent a lot of time being a part of, uh, what many people call

00:31:50.440 the IDW, uh, or the, you know, these like center left guys who were very progressive, uh, but decided the

00:31:58.980 left had gone too far and started to make inroads with the rights and the right. It's the, I didn't

00:32:03.860 leave the left, the left left me types. Now, Sam Harris was always like, all of these guys are bad,

00:32:08.540 but Sam Harris was always one of the worst of these guys. Yes. He would technically attack Islam. And

00:32:13.700 yes, from time to time, he would talk about the need to have free speech and at least let these

00:32:18.860 conservatives talk at universities and don't attack them because we need the life of the mind and all

00:32:23.920 this stuff. But ultimately he always kept his really, really embarrassing new atheism and hatred

00:32:29.920 for Christianity. And the fact that he truly despised, uh, Christians and conservatives was

00:32:36.020 always there under the service, even though he started attending some of these events and stuff

00:32:41.140 like that. You could always tell he just despised these people. He had to be in the room when

00:32:45.800 conservatives and he hated it. Um, you know, it's very clear. This is a guy who, you know, expected to

00:32:53.080 live his entire life in the New York times bubble. Uh, and the fact that he had to step out of it for

00:32:57.740 a few minutes to schlub it with the, you know, some of these conservative guys really bothered him.

00:33:03.080 And that was very honest and very obvious. And so, you know, Trump just broke Sam Harris, any,

00:33:09.200 anything that Sam Harris had said about free speech and his own, uh, you know, his own principles when it

00:33:15.260 comes to truth and all these things, he threw it in the trash immediately because of Trump.

00:33:19.340 Harris had this famous, uh, appearance on trigonometry, uh, where he, well, basically said,

00:33:29.500 look, I, I, we had to, we had to lie to the public to get rid of Donald Trump. Donald Trump could not

00:33:34.980 be allowed to be in office. He's too dangerous to, uh, the, the, the class that I belong to. I'm an

00:33:41.660 expert, uh, and the expert class should be the ones ruling. He just basically came out and said exactly

00:33:47.080 what I said in the total state, but thought it was a good thing, right? Like he explained exactly

00:33:51.640 the process. I explained in my book that look, it's, it's the experts that have become in control.

00:33:55.880 It's this deep state, this network of kind of oligarchic actors. They're the ones who

00:34:00.120 really, this managerial elite, they're the ones who really end up, uh, controlling everything,

00:34:04.980 not the politicians, all that. And basically Sam Harris came out and said, yes, that's exactly true.

00:34:09.420 And guys like me, uh, this managerial class, the experts, we're the runs that should be running

00:34:14.220 the country. We're the runs that should be running the institutions. We're the ones that should

00:34:18.200 ultimately wield all the power, make all the decisions. And, uh, you're, you, you plebs, 0.99

00:34:22.560 you're voting for stuff that shouldn't matter. Uh, whoever's in charge, technically got voted into

00:34:27.080 office. They should listen to us instead. We're the ones that tell them what to do. Uh, and Donald

00:34:32.000 Trump is not doing that. He's breaking the system that we rely on, but the class of people like me who

00:34:37.840 ultimately should be in power, uh, we're, we're being pushed out by Donald Trump. And so he openly

00:34:42.140 said on trigonometry, uh, we should be in charge. And that means Donald Trump needs to get, uh,

00:34:48.540 thrown out and it doesn't matter if we have to lie. You know, he was asked about the, you know,

00:34:52.880 when we found out that the Hunter Biden laptop was very real and that there had been a conspiracy

00:34:57.240 at the highest levels between intelligence agencies and the FBI and social media and all,

00:35:03.140 you know, all working together to basically cover this up so that Trump would not get reelected.

00:35:07.740 And he said, good. I, he said, you know, his famous line was like, I don't care if Joe Biden

00:35:12.460 is burying the bodies of dead children in his basement. Uh, he needs to be president instead

00:35:17.320 of Trump. Right. I don't care about my principles. I don't care about dead children. I don't care

00:35:22.640 about, uh, truth. I, I don't, the, all that free speech stuff, all of those marketplace of ideas

00:35:27.980 stuff. I don't believe any of it because at the end of the day, uh, I, what I really believe in

00:35:33.720 is my privilege, my class, uh, my people, we should be the ones in charge. We should be the

00:35:38.760 ones running things. Uh, and so all of that stuff I said with the IDW, all those debates on what truth

00:35:44.460 is all of my junk that I feed to my followers about rationality and the search for science and

00:35:51.600 understanding it's all lie. It's all garbage. I'll sacrifice it all in a minute because at the end 1.00

00:35:56.680 of the day, friend, enemy politics is all that matters. Sam Harris just said that out loud.

00:36:03.720 Which is particularly funny because guys like James Lindsay, uh, who also were a part of,

00:36:08.800 you know, this like IDW, uh, I didn't leave the left, left me crowd, but guys like James Lindsay

00:36:14.280 will flip out when you talk about the friend enemy distinction. Uh, but guys like Sam Harris just

00:36:18.860 prove it immediately. Right. Sam Harris operates entirely on the friend enemy distinction. He has

00:36:23.320 no rationality. He has no principles. Everything that he does is, is my team winning or is my team

00:36:29.180 losing. Right. That that's it. That's all. So, uh, all that to say, right, we're, we're rehashing

00:36:34.360 history here with Sam Harris, but he recently had an interview where he revealed something very

00:36:39.600 interesting because it turns out Sam Harris has found religion. All this attack on religion. Sam

00:36:45.820 Harris has finally found something that he can identify with full, you know, uh, you know, full

00:36:51.360 throttle. Uh, he's going to, he's going to embrace it 100% despite having been a new atheist, uh,

00:36:56.540 basically, uh, professionally like his whole life. Uh, he has found, uh, what will finally forge him

00:37:02.760 into, uh, a true believer. I see some people are already guessing in chat, uh, what it will be. Uh,

00:37:09.420 but let's play some of this interview here.

00:37:11.360 A little bit of a personal question, but I mean, you are an atheist and Jewish. Can you tell us how

00:37:17.320 that balance changed or shifted for you after October 7th, if it did shift?

00:37:21.560 Well, I think it would have been true to say, um, before October 7th, that I was, I'm, I'm still an

00:37:29.480 atheist. I'm still a secularist. I'm still, um, I still think that we're paying an intolerable price

00:37:34.560 for, for the religious balkanization of our world. So I'm not, I'm not a fan of, of, of sectarianism in any form.

00:37:41.360 It's great. It's, it's such a great opening here. I'm not a fan of sectarianism of any form. You can

00:37:49.720 hear it, right? You know, it's coming, but, but except in one case it's coming. I'm not a, I don't

00:38:00.560 like this religious balkanization. I don't like this, this sectarianism. I, I, I don't believe any

00:38:07.000 of this. I can't believe, but here it comes. Here we go. Um, and I think before October 7th,

00:38:13.880 you could have said that I was not a Zionist, right? Or I, I was certainly would, would be 1.00

00:38:19.220 willing to, to call into question the legitimacy of organizing a state, a, around a, a, a religion

00:38:27.820 or a, or a, a religiously identified ethnicity, right? You know, Judaism in this case. 0.52

00:38:34.100 So yeah, I, I would be against ethno-nationalism, but it's, so this is great. Cause a lot of times,

00:38:42.940 you know, people work really hard to avoid describing this as like ethno-nationalism,

00:38:47.940 but it obviously is, it has to be by definition, right? If you make a Jewish state, you're making 0.93

00:38:52.920 an ethno-nationalist state that that's what that means. Um, because Judaism is both a religion

00:38:57.840 and an ethnos, uh, which is what Sam is laying out here. It's, you know, it's a religious state,

00:39:02.040 uh, and, and it's a, a, a, a, a, a ethnicity defined by a religion. It's a, so it's ethno-religious

00:39:09.600 identity. And, you know, I would have been against ethno-states before, except now it turns out,

00:39:17.720 even though I'm an atheist who doesn't believe any of this and I believe, and I'm against

00:39:21.700 tribalism and sectarianism and all of this stuff. Now I've discovered perhaps, um, I mean, I think

00:39:30.560 I want to, I released a podcast some years ago titled, you know, you, why don't I criticize Israel 1.00

00:39:35.980 question mark? Yeah. And there I gave a, you know, a fairly equivocal and frustrating defense of Israel,

00:39:43.640 but I mean, I was, I was, um, troubled by, you know, as someone who is, who believes that we are

00:39:50.360 paying this intolerable price for, for sectarianism, I was troubled by the, the seeming contradiction in

00:39:56.520 defending the Jewish state. And, and for me, it just nets out to the only real defense is

00:40:02.840 the ambient level of genocidal intolerance that's directed at Jews, right? I mean, just the.

00:40:10.000 So Sam Harris was, you know, the, he had his principles. He's a, he's an atheist. He didn't

00:40:15.860 believe, he didn't identify with any of this Jewish identity, right? He didn't have the religion. 0.91

00:40:21.700 He didn't believe in the, you know, in the ethnicity as like a collective because he doesn't

00:40:26.660 believe in collectives, doesn't believe in tribalism, thinks that religion is, is driving

00:40:31.320 these factional wars and they're the ones creating all of this issue and we're just going to get rid 0.80

00:40:36.180 of it. Right. And then, then, then everything will be fine. Except what Sam discovers is that

00:40:41.460 his world is never coming around and actually people are going to continue to be religious and

00:40:46.260 they're going to continue to live in tribes. And so Sam's not going to admit that, you know,

00:40:51.800 he's wrong about any of the religious stuff or that his attacks on sectarianism for everyone else

00:40:57.860 are a problem, right? It's that he's, he's, he's not going to acknowledge that there was a,

00:41:02.860 a wider epistemological failure to, to, you know, understand the forces he was trying to

00:41:09.380 navigate. He's not going to acknowledge all that, but because he just noticed that some people are

00:41:15.580 mean to Jewish people. However, now he's going to support this. Now, again, there are, of course, 0.98

00:41:24.540 people who say awful things about Jewish people who do have vitriol in their hearts towards that.

00:41:29.460 And I decry all ethnic hatred as a Christian. You should not hate people because of their ethnicity.

00:41:34.860 Um, but, but Sam Harris didn't notice all the other hatred for other ethnicities,

00:41:40.140 which is pretty interesting. We'll get to that in just a second here.

00:41:43.460 And, and yet before October 7th, even there, I was, I felt like I was, I was paying lip service

00:41:50.160 to the legacy of the Holocaust, uh, without really having my, my heart was really not quite in it

00:41:57.580 because I, it was, it still seemed kind of hypothetical to me. I mean, cause in, in my life,

00:42:02.360 anti-Semitism has not seemed like a real variable at all. Uh, and apart from the Islamist version of 0.97

00:42:09.340 it, it, it seemed to have been, you know, more or less fully defanged, you know, the world over.

00:42:16.480 So Sam here admits that actually he has experienced little to no anti-Semitism in his life. He's lived

00:42:22.900 in the West, specifically in the United States, I think his entire life. And so here in the United

00:42:28.200 States, anti-Semitism has had no negative impact to him. He hasn't really experienced it. He hasn't

00:42:33.420 got a lot of violence or attacks. He hasn't been driven from employment or anything else. And so he's

00:42:39.200 lived in this, uh, you know, majority Christian nation his entire life and been tolerated and in no way

00:42:46.360 felt any kind of attack. He knew out there somewhere Islam was hating on, you know, uh, uh, on, uh,

00:42:55.200 Judaism, but you know, in, in the United States, he just didn't experience it. And so this isn't an

00:43:00.500 issue. So, you know, you have to ask yourself, did Sam ever ask himself why it wasn't an issue here?

00:43:08.340 Is there something about the character of America? Is there some aspect of America that delivered this?

00:43:14.720 No, he just kind of, he just kind of took it on and, and didn't, didn't see the need to bother

00:43:20.400 with it. Right. It wasn't really an issue. But given October 7th, given the response to it

00:43:26.080 in the West, both on the left and on the right politically, um, but even most, especially on

00:43:33.080 the left, I mean, that was the most surprising. Um, yeah, I'm, I'm really, you know, just kind of

00:43:39.280 an unapologetic Zionist at this point. I mean, just like who, so now Sam, and, and again, I want to 0.93

00:43:46.720 make this clear. Sam has already described Zionism as ethno-nationalism. That's what Sam has said it 0.69

00:43:53.420 is. Okay. This is not, this is not the, uh, you know, the Gentile saying this, this is what Sam has 0.82

00:43:59.940 described Zionism as, that, that is his understanding as he just laid it out of Zionism. He says it is

00:44:08.280 ethno-nationalism. And I am now a proud ethno-nationalist.

00:44:14.820 This is a guy who's called Trump fascist. Oh, we've got to watch out. Fascism is coming.

00:44:20.000 Oh, and yet now Sam has openly declared himself a proud ethno-nationalist. And the really interesting

00:44:26.940 thing about this is again, whether I, I don't think I've missed anything here. Sam has been in America

00:44:33.200 his whole life. He was here for nine 11. He's watched. Yeah. I'm nine 11 when thousands and

00:44:42.220 thousands and thousands of Americans were murdered, right? Did I miss this? Sam Harris was here for

00:44:48.600 this. He wrote entire books in the wake of it about the dangers of religion in general and Islam 1.00

00:44:53.400 in particular after nine 11. And yet Sam being an American and living in the United States and

00:45:03.700 watching nine 11 when thousands of thousands of people died did not feel the need to become some

00:45:10.460 kind of strong ethno-nationalist for America, or even just an American nationalist in general.

00:45:16.140 I don't think Sam would in any way describe himself as a nationalist or an American nationalist,

00:45:21.920 right? But having watched people die, and I would like to be clear here, it is a tragedy that people

00:45:30.560 were killed in those terrorist attacks. Every one of those deaths is horrific. Okay. But much fewer

00:45:38.640 people died in the terrorist attacks on October 7th, as opposed to nine 11, just, just magnitude wise

00:45:49.260 is very clear that far more people died in nine 11. Nine 11 was objectively worse as a slaughter

00:45:57.900 of countrymen for Sam Harris. So just by the magnitude of the people killed, nine 11 should have had the

00:46:07.800 greater impact. It's his country. It's his country. In theory, right? It's his country. His countrymen

00:46:17.120 died. Thousands of them. Far more Americans died. And yet he becomes an ethno-nationalist for another

00:46:27.840 nation that is not the one he lives in when fewer people were killed there. Again, I am not trying

00:46:33.840 to say that the terrorist attacks on October 7th were not horrific. They were. And Sam is right to be

00:46:41.280 worried about them. It's right to feel angry about them. But if you are more angry about those attacks

00:46:48.340 than you were about 9 11, which happened in your country, the country you were born and raised in,

00:46:55.220 the one you have lived in your whole life, and the attacks in which way more people were killed.

00:47:01.440 If that did not drive you towards some form of American nationalism,

00:47:05.300 but the attacks across the world, in the Middle East, in a country you do not live in,

00:47:13.000 in a religion you do not believe in, if those attacks turn you into an ethno-nationalist,

00:47:18.720 I have questions. Sorry, I have questions. What is going on here? Okay? What is happening?

00:47:26.240 Why is this new atheist who hates the right, who hates the idea of nationalism, who calls everyone 0.91

00:47:33.440 a fascist, why is he suddenly an ethno-nationalist for this state? Again, if it was just a terrorist

00:47:42.320 attack, I get it. Terrorist attack by Muslims against your people? That would make me angry too. 0.75

00:47:49.400 It did, on 9 11, when I saw it in my own country. And you can bet it definitely riled up my nationalism.

00:47:57.940 So I understand becoming a nationalist over this, but why didn't you do it for this country?

00:48:04.580 Why are you so opposed to nationalism for this country? Why are you attacking Donald Trump for

00:48:10.200 being a nationalist? Why are you calling the right fascist for wanting to have an American nation

00:48:15.360 with an American identity? Why are you so against the identity of Americans, but you are pro

00:48:21.680 what you admit to be an ethno-religious identity for a nation state in the Middle East that you don't

00:48:28.800 live in? I think there is our fair questions with a guy like Sam Harris, who has had this record

00:48:35.100 throughout his whole life. Who can be counted upon to defend the Jews but the Jews? I think that's a

00:48:42.600 question for which you have to err on the side of the most cynical and depressing answer, which is

00:48:52.040 only the Jews can, at the end of the day, be counted upon to defend themselves. And I think they

00:48:59.200 should have the right to do that. And having a Jewish state seems like, certainly at the moment, 0.91

00:49:05.080 the only rational backstop to that project. A little bit of a personal question.

00:49:10.720 And I'd like to be clear here. I agree with Sam. The Jews should have a right to have their own

00:49:16.180 nation. And they should have a right to defend that nation. Many people will be angry about the way

00:49:21.080 that they have defended that nation. Many people will say they've gone too far in what they see as

00:49:25.180 the defense of their nation. I'll let people argue about that fact. I was actually just on Scott

00:49:29.860 Horton's podcast recently. You can check that out. He's a guy who makes that case if you want to hear

00:49:34.160 that side of the argument. But ultimately, I agree with Sam. They should have a nation and be able to

00:49:42.080 defend it. And if you believe the only people who will defend Jews are Jews, then you can go and be 0.79

00:49:47.700 there and be defended, right? That seems reasonable. But Sam does not believe this about any other

00:49:53.520 people. He does not believe this about Americans, even though he lives in the United States, even though

00:50:00.420 he has spent his entire life here, even though he's undergone periods where we have had terrorist

00:50:06.180 attacks and thousands and thousands of people died from Muslims the same way they did in the attacks on

00:50:13.820 October 7th. But he did not feel these feelings then. He still attacks people who have these positions

00:50:19.880 in the United States now. He has one standard for Israel and for Jewish people and another standard

00:50:26.520 for America and its people, even though he lives in America. And this is insane. And if you want to

00:50:33.580 understand why people have an issue with some of these positions, looking at Sam Harris is a pretty

00:50:39.480 good example because Sam has literally betrayed everything he believed in and everything he stood

00:50:44.740 for. He's an atheist. He's a leftist. He's against nationalism. He's constantly attacking people,

00:50:51.020 calling them fascist. He's and you know, he he said he wanted free speech and he betrayed every one of

00:50:57.120 these principles, right? He's willing to embrace an ethno-religious identity as long as it's the one he

00:51:02.340 belongs in. He's for ethno states as long as it's the one he wants to defend. He's okay with censorship

00:51:09.080 as long as it gets rid of the candidate he doesn't like. He's okay with anything as long as it serves

00:51:14.880 his identity. Because at the end of the day, Sam Harris may have become an atheist. He may have

00:51:22.220 lived in America's entire life. But his identity as he sees it is somehow tied up here. And that's

00:51:30.660 crazy. Like if Sam felt the same way about the United States, he would be saying we should have

00:51:36.860 American nationalism. America should be able to defend itself. The only people who are going to defend

00:51:41.980 America are Americans. And so America should be able to be constituted as a state, as a nation.

00:51:48.200 It should have an identity. It's allowed to defend. If Sam felt the same way about the place he lived in,

00:51:54.480 he would just say that. Instead, he attacks everybody who even comes close. Anyone who says

00:51:59.180 they're a nationalist, Sam hates. Anyone who says they're a nationalist, Sam calls a fascist. But he will 0.96

00:52:04.260 embrace ethno-nationalism he has explicitly, despite everything else he believes in. He's willing to throw

00:52:10.520 away his entire life's work, his entire reputation, everything, to say, yeah, I think Israel should 1.00

00:52:16.980 be able to operate in this way. And again, he's fine to say that. Ultimately, it's fine for him

00:52:22.140 to understand that he thinks Israel should exist in that way. I'm just asking why the double standard?

00:52:28.380 Why does the double standard exist? Why does he see this for Israel, but he can't see it for the place

00:52:33.120 he lives in? What is going on here? I think that if you continue to behave in this way,

00:52:39.360 people are going to continue to ask these questions because it's very mysterious that a guy like this

00:52:44.000 is willing to throw every little bit of his reputation and all of his principles that he's

00:52:49.320 written books about. And he's done endless hours of podcast interviews and all these things.

00:52:54.580 He's appeared on major television shows to defend these positions. He's willing to throw it all in

00:52:59.420 the garbage over Trump and over Israel. And that just seems the same to me because also like Trump 0.92

00:53:05.760 is the biggest Israel booster in the world. Trump loves Israel and Sam hates him because it's all 0.74

00:53:10.960 friend enemy, right? It's all friend enemy. He knows what side he's supposed to be on. He knows what

00:53:16.180 side his identity is supposed to put him on. And so he just goes to it. He doesn't principle means

00:53:20.700 nothing to Sam. He will throw it all the way in a second. If he thinks if his instincts tell him

00:53:25.240 he's supposed to be on a specific side with certain friends and that's it. That's all there is

00:53:29.400 to it. There's nothing else behind it. All right, guys, let's head to the question of the day real

00:53:36.880 or sorry, we've got looks like at least a super chat over here. So let's take a look at the questions

00:53:41.940 of the people. And let me get rid of this video so you can actually read it. Tiny Stupid Demon says 0.59

00:53:50.060 this reminds me why nobody actually likes clowns and they are mostly fodder for horror movies, right? 0.98

00:53:55.820 Yeah, at this point, famously, you see more clowns in horror movies than you see in children's

00:54:01.300 movies because nobody likes them. And yet here we have a clown. You know, I bring all this

00:54:07.600 joy to the children and it's a sacred profession. And don't besmirch my name by comparing me to

00:54:14.300 Donald Trump because I practice the clown. And that is the sacred art that should not be 0.88

00:54:20.180 besmirched by the the presence of this fascist Donald Trump. All right, guys, we're going to go 0.97

00:54:27.260 ahead and wrap this up. Like I said, just taking it nice and easy on Friday. Hopefully finally over

00:54:32.980 this being sick by next week and just just needed to take a break from all the seriousness. So glad

00:54:40.080 we could dive into a couple of clowns here on the show today. If it's your first time on YouTube, 0.52

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The Auron MacIntyre Show - July 11, 2025

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