The Auron MacIntyre Show - Trump Crushes Iowa ｜ Guest： The Prudentialist ｜ 1⧸16⧸24

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00:00:37.380 So to the surprise of no one who wasn't on the payroll over certain campaigns,

00:00:43.760 Trump crushed the Iowa caucuses.

00:00:45.780 I think this was going to be an obvious result,

00:00:48.400 but it still seemed to be very confusing for a number of people on the internet,

00:00:53.420 a number of kind of professional political actors.

00:00:57.420 And so I wanted to dive into what this overwhelming win in the caucuses means for Trump,

00:01:03.560 what it means for the other candidates who have been in the race.

00:01:06.820 We already have one, Vivek Ramaswamy, who has stepped away and endorsed Trump.

00:01:11.000 What this is going to mean for the rest of the primary season.

00:01:13.540 And then of course, of course, most importantly, what should we expect in the 2024 election?

00:01:19.700 And coming to break down all of this with me is everyone's favorite frog, the Prudentialist.

00:01:25.340 Thanks for coming on, man.

00:01:26.480 Thanks for having me on, Oren.

00:01:27.600 Always a pleasure.

00:01:28.180 Absolutely.

00:01:29.440 I know we don't do a lot of rank punditry on the show.

00:01:32.540 We don't do a lot of horse race politics,

00:01:34.320 but I figured today was a good time to put our toe in the water

00:01:37.920 because I do think there are a lot of larger lessons

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00:03:22.800 All right.

00:03:23.300 So, Prudentialist.

00:03:24.920 Again, I've been predicting this for a while.

00:03:28.340 I don't think this was a big surprise to you, but Trump didn't just win the caucuses here.

00:03:35.200 He blew them away.

00:03:36.580 He came in with 51% of the vote.

00:03:39.660 The closest person was Ron DeSantis with 21%.

00:03:44.340 He's the next closest candidate.

00:03:46.860 Nikki Haley comes in at 19, just barely losing to DeSantis.

00:03:51.220 And then Vivek comes in at 7%.

00:03:53.340 Why do you think so many people were convinced that Trump was going to lose Iowa in this situation?

00:04:01.180 Yeah, but before we do that, I just want to give a shout out to the 191 people that decided to show up

00:04:07.200 and sit their butts down in the freezing cold to vote for Asa Hutchinson.

00:04:10.700 I don't know who you are or what you believe in, but, you know, you're a man of your word.

00:04:15.220 And if that's what you believe in, sir, there's a helicopter ride waiting for you,

00:04:19.360 and I got a bridge to sell you in Alaska.

00:04:20.680 But I think people were really deciding to say that Iowa was anyone's game.

00:04:26.760 I think everyone was sort of getting high on their own supply,

00:04:29.160 but primarily I think it is because there has been zero to no media coverage over Trump whatsoever.

00:04:34.660 And so no one was paying attention to the ground game for Trump.

00:04:37.640 I know he's been on a few town halls on the cable news networks.

00:04:42.060 But outside of that, because Trump is not on Twitter, because Trump is sort of playing really a media silence game,

00:04:48.600 where the only time you really talk about him is in the context of is he losing to, you know, Joe Biden in these polls?

00:04:54.420 Is he losing to his primary contenders?

00:04:57.040 And it's always in opposition to what he actually stands for.

00:05:00.780 And so no one's talking about the fact that Trump wants to have people on his Project 2025 plan to, you know, curtail and gut the civil service.

00:05:10.180 You know, he wants to deport millions of people on day one of taking executive action.

00:05:14.420 The whole scaremongering over him being a dictator for a day, which, you know, isn't that bad.

00:05:19.080 But I think it really does only a day, only a day.

00:05:22.900 I know you get so disappointed.

00:05:24.080 You're like, really, only a day like I could I could I could live with a Cheeto for a few more years than that.

00:05:27.820 But anyways, I think it is a lot of people just living within their own bubbles, more or less,

00:05:33.880 is that you have a media apparatus that isn't even conservative media, just regular media in general, doesn't want Trump to win.

00:05:39.960 They want him in prison or defenestrated or whatever.

00:05:42.700 And of course, the DeSantis, the Haley crowd, everyone's looking for the magical Trumpism without Trump formula.

00:05:49.660 And as we saw in Iowa, that was not what the people wanted.

00:05:53.440 And I mean, it's been very clear since the get go when Trump announced.

00:05:56.920 Yeah, there was some sort of, you know, there was some contentious battles between him and DeSantis very early on in the polls.

00:06:03.700 But then DeSantis opened his mouth and the spaghetti flew out of his pockets and his online parasocial sort of paid network of people happened to be the most annoying people on Earth.

00:06:14.420 And I don't think that bode particularly well for him.

00:06:16.800 And so now the race isn't between anybody.

00:06:20.340 I mean, it is still Trump's primary nomination to lose, whether the RNC decides to stab him in the back or he goes to jail or whatever.

00:06:26.780 However, this race is really between the neoconservative faction of the party, which is the Nikki Haley's of the world.

00:06:34.380 Ron, I like Ron, but Ron isn't isn't the threat here.

00:06:37.680 It's between Nikki Haley and Donald Trump.

00:06:40.240 But Trump has the commanding lead of these voters and the vitriol we've seen both from other Republican Party affiliates, but more importantly, the mainstream media.

00:06:49.180 I mean, the Joy Reid from MSNBC made it abundantly clear that her her blood libel against, you know, white evangelical Christians that voted for Trump was finally some really honest moments of television where she's like they're overrepresented. 0.99

00:07:02.420 These people are a threat to America.

00:07:03.980 They want these people to bow down to them.

00:07:05.860 They just want their country back.

00:07:07.740 And because these people share the sentiment that the country is off track, millions of people have been pouring into this country.

00:07:13.180 The Border Patrol is facilitating an invasion of the United States, and we've been wasting billions of dollars on wars that have gotten us nowhere.

00:07:20.140 I'm voting for the guy that says America first, whether he's for America or not.

00:07:24.800 And yeah, Trump Trump blew it out of the water.

00:07:26.740 And that should surprise no one except the people high on their own supply.

00:07:31.600 Yeah.

00:07:31.840 Joy Reid discovering that there are white people in Iowa was a fascinating piece of television.

00:07:38.700 Or there are billions of us.

00:07:40.340 Yeah, yeah, it was it was it was hilarious.

00:07:43.280 But yeah, there there seems to be look, like I said, I like Ron DeSantis.

00:07:48.560 He is my governor.

00:07:49.480 I think he does a great job as governor.

00:07:52.080 I have expressed many.

00:07:53.640 I know people with alligators in their names on Twitter.

00:07:56.240 Don't, you know, you know, don't listen to this.

00:07:59.320 But as I said many times, he's incredibly capable.

00:08:01.880 I think that he probably was the heir apparent of the Republican Party in four years if he had just kind of understood the political situation.

00:08:11.020 And I'm glad I'll say this.

00:08:12.980 I'm very glad that it seems like, you know, he'd still be out Nikki Haley, who I understand a lot of people are like, oh, DeSantis is part of the machine.

00:08:21.760 Not in the way Haley is.

00:08:23.100 I'm sorry.

00:08:23.660 That's a different animal.

00:08:24.600 And I think the fact that she came in third is good.

00:08:27.540 I think that's a positive thing that that shows that hopefully this is a dead or dying version of the party that's hanging on kind of by the skin of its teeth.

00:08:37.080 And hopefully she she can just kind of be removed from the standings here with the next couple of of primaries. 1.00

00:08:45.380 But but it did seem very strange.

00:08:47.980 Like, I understand, as you said, when there's no when when Trump is not there in the debates and he received a lot of criticism for not being part of the debates, everyone felt like he owed them to be in the debates.

00:09:00.740 This was the this is the line that he's owed to be in the debates.

00:09:03.280 Of course, anyone who knows anything about politics knew that it was wise for him not to appear on the debate stage.

00:09:10.640 He's functionally incumbent.

00:09:12.380 He's lapping the competition.

00:09:13.740 The only thing he can do by putting himself in that room is is, you know, lose something.

00:09:20.800 There's nothing to gain when you're already more than double, you know, the any of the next opponent's totals when it comes to polling.

00:09:28.680 And so there's no reason for him to be in there other than people just kind of calling him mean names.

00:09:33.580 But his his lack of presence did change the dynamic.

00:09:38.600 It did seem to give people some hope where there wasn't hope.

00:09:41.640 Oh, well, what if we have a really strong Iowa ground game?

00:09:44.800 A lot of people, you know, I know it's particularly DeSantis invested a lot in the strategy up front of making sure if you can just take the momentum out of Trump sales, you can get in there and land a punch early.

00:09:57.180 You know, hit him on the nose and make him look weak early on.

00:10:00.200 And then you can gain momentum.

00:10:02.080 I mean, what do you think about the fact that he did not step down after this loss?

00:10:06.280 A lot of people expected that losing, you know, it's not like he lost by five points.

00:10:11.680 He he he he got destroyed in the in the caucus.

00:10:16.060 What do you think about the fact that he has not stepped down yet?

00:10:18.380 When many people expected that without this kind of momentum, it's going to be very difficult for him to win going forward.

00:10:24.900 Well, traditionally, you would stay on, especially if you if the the front runner hasn't decided who's going to be in his cabinet or who his vice president is going to be.

00:10:34.060 But a recent Fox News interview had stated that he's already had his vice presidential pick more or less already selected.

00:10:41.740 And so that that does throw sort of the traditional knowledge out there.

00:10:44.740 But I mean, people are still have a lot of money invested in both Nikki Haley and Ron DeSantis is looking for alternatives to Trump and what they can do and how they can flex on their policies and ideas and get them out there into sort of the Republican ether.

00:10:59.920 I mean, you know, Asa Hutchinson has also dropped out. Vivek Ramaswamy dropped out and hasn't immediately endorsed Donald Trump right afterwards.

00:11:08.580 I mean, Vivek's seven percent support, I guess, is going over to him.

00:11:12.780 But it does illustrate, I think, that this is they still want him gone.

00:11:17.000 And I think that a lot of the strategy that both Nikki Haley and Ron DeSantis are fighting over is, is that, listen, Biden and all these people within the regime, within these various district attorneys in New York,

00:11:29.920 the attorney generals, you know, people in the Justice Department or in Georgia, they want Trump in prison, right?

00:11:36.800 They want him out of the race. They want him barred.

00:11:39.300 And we still have to remember that there are ongoing Supreme Court cases, or at least they're going to hear the cases about Trump being banned from the primary ballots and just, you know, in states that participate in Super Tuesday in March.

00:11:51.500 And that's, you know, that's, that's less than two months away from now.

00:11:54.840 So you have things moving very quickly where people are really trying to make sure that Donald Trump is not even on the ballot for, you know, the Republican nomination for president of the United States. 0.88

00:12:04.900 And so as it is and has been with the Republican Party for as long as I've been alive and longer than I've been alive, it is a party apparatus that are a bunch of beautiful losers that hate what the voters want.

00:12:17.940 And so, yeah, we would like the voters have made it very clear in Iowa and has been resoundingly clear for party loyalty, at least when it comes to Trump, that they want to see jobs come back to the United States, that they want their border actually secured and for the border to even exist.

00:12:33.100 And for millions of illegal immigrants to be deported and sent back to their countries at home while withdrawing from disastrous foreign conflicts abroad.

00:12:40.620 And for that reason, and the people that are voting for it, predominantly white Americans, the party hates them.

00:12:46.680 And they have no problem working with Democrats like Oklahoma Senator, Senator Lankford about, you know, having pathways to citizenship and not doing anything about the border at all, except what the Democrats want.

00:12:56.700 So, yeah, it's going to be the usual party apparatus versus the will of the people.

00:13:02.220 And that shouldn't surprise anyone as to why a disastrous Indian version of Hillary Clinton is running for the Republican nomination and why Ron DeSantis is still in the race despite the blowouts that they both received. 0.99

00:13:15.800 This this is something that I've tried to communicate, and I think it's just people who are married to the system.

00:13:22.280 They just and they're I think they're honest.

00:13:25.120 I think they want a change.

00:13:27.160 I don't think they want the same old thing.

00:13:29.600 And they look at what Trump did in office, especially when it comes to things like covid, and they say he failed.

00:13:35.680 And I get it.

00:13:36.660 Like he was awful on that stuff.

00:13:38.580 You know, they're right that this is a guy who did not deliver on many of his promises.

00:13:44.380 And they're saying, well, what we need is somebody who can just be more, you know, more professional, who won't have the personal baggage, who won't have this stuff.

00:13:53.760 And they'll execute the policy because it's really about properly executing policy.

00:13:58.660 If we can just get someone into the executive office and he just knows which levers to pull and which, you know, which things to manipulate, then all of the pieces will snap into place.

00:14:11.300 And then a slight modification of the standard GOP slate will suddenly be implemented and that will save the country.

00:14:19.640 And they don't understand the level of complete rejection the voters are issuing to the Republican Party.

00:14:28.420 They don't get that.

00:14:29.500 It's not just Trump.

00:14:30.900 It's not just DeSantis.

00:14:32.380 It is the entire system that is on trial.

00:14:36.160 It is the entire thing.

00:14:37.580 Top to bottom is the Republican Party as an entity.

00:14:40.560 It is the American government as an entity is the priorities of the ruling class in their entirety and the way that they have treated the core of America that is actually up for a vote.

00:14:53.020 They don't get that.

00:14:54.140 They don't understand that Trump is deeply flawed.

00:14:57.580 Yes.

00:14:57.940 Yes.

00:14:58.280 He's a mess in many areas.

00:15:00.060 But the people who voted for Trump voted for American identity.

00:15:05.720 That was what was in the election in 2016.

00:15:08.760 That's what created the momentum for the first time in a long time.

00:15:12.980 A voter base that was deeply suppressed suddenly recognized that perhaps their interests could be listened to.

00:15:19.800 And Trump, they deserve better than Trump.

00:15:21.940 They absolutely deserve better than Trump.

00:15:24.640 But it's very clear to them that he's the only guy who's going to speak to these things.

00:15:29.620 That he understands a problem that the others don't.

00:15:33.600 And that doesn't make him a good guy.

00:15:34.880 And that doesn't make him an effective guy.

00:15:36.360 And that doesn't make him a savior or anything.

00:15:38.760 But people just did not grasp this.

00:15:41.380 And so when they look at the results, they just want to lecture the voter base.

00:15:45.060 Oh, why can't you just pick someone responsible?

00:15:47.800 Why can't you just pick somebody who's got the right clean cut look?

00:15:51.720 Who's got the professional execution?

00:15:54.320 And the answer is that they've elected a million of those people.

00:15:58.040 And none of them have made good on their word because Trump might be undisciplined.

00:16:03.020 But what that does, that unhinged nature of Trump allows him to say things and touch something about America that none of these other guys do.

00:16:12.860 And that's what I think is so hard for people who are holding on to this idea that if we just get a more effective guy into office, that's the key.

00:16:21.700 They don't grasp.

00:16:22.900 They're just desperately waiting for a moment when politics is going to go back to normal.

00:16:27.220 And politics is not going back to normal, guys.

00:16:30.320 It's not going back.

00:16:31.740 And you need to grasp that if you need to understand what's going on.

00:16:36.100 Absolutely.

00:16:36.900 I mean, there is a there's the webcomic where like, hey, what's underneath that mask?

00:16:41.100 And then they're like, well, let's keep the mask back on.

00:16:42.900 Well, we can't put the mask back on, especially when we've seen from for years and especially since Trump ran and was president and how the reaction, everything that happened in 2020 that took place.

00:16:54.520 That mask can't go back on.

00:16:56.200 There is an unfettered ethnic hatred for the people that voted for Trump by the Democratic Party.

00:17:02.280 You can't put the mask back on after that.

00:17:04.480 You can't look at the op ed section after the 2020 election and see them raging about interracial or multiracial whiteness for Hispanics in the Rio Grande Valley that voted for Trump or for people like Michelle Goldberg in The New York Times saying we can replace them when it comes to voters in Georgia.

00:17:22.740 The you can't put that mask back on and say we're going to go back to politics as normal and the same way to see, you know, the actual energy, the electoral victory and the money.

00:17:32.580 There are a lot of people that are happily who are married to the system that would like to grift off of that, realize, well, if we can just say these things, if we can say that we're America first, if we can say that we want to make America great again, we can we can be like that, too.

00:17:44.140 And no, because people can see through obvious lies because anyone that has witnessed the last several decades of American politics every election year, it's about, you know, defending America, peace through strength, you know, close the border, cut the taxes and nothing of that happens.

00:17:59.160 Now, there are plenty of things to criticize about Trump, and there are plenty of right criticisms to levy against him, the over reliance on executive orders and instead placating the Republican Party with a tax cut rather than something on the border that was more definitive than just, you know, a pen and a paper and a phone call.

00:18:15.160 But at the end of the day, I also know that the people that are behind the Trump campaign and the Project 2025 people and the people that you and I have both had conversations with about how you would seriously gut the civil service and even do more than that gives me extreme, you know, I want to go for the guys.

00:18:31.700 And Trump's a nice figurehead. He's a great fire starter. He's a great M-80 in the anthill, right? And that's a good thing. That anthill needs to go away. And unfortunately, an M-80 is better than letting that anthill stay there.

00:18:45.400 So this is this is the way that it's going to be. You can't go back to normal, not when so many people have made it abundantly clear that they hate you and that they want America to get worse and that they want things to progressively turn into Brazil or South Africa or China.

00:19:00.580 And people are saying no to that, whether they get their will accomplished. I mean, you and I are not are not real big fans of democracy and its process for obvious reasons, as we've discussed on the show.

00:19:11.440 And you've got a book coming out on how that all works. But it does indicate to the people that, listen, you're playing a game against a system that has been systematically targeting you for at least 60 years, if not more.

00:19:22.440 And, you know, if this is your one shot and it's one giant middle finger to the regime and it's going to be like a firecracker or a bull in the China shop, why not take it? 0.85

00:19:32.400 Well, and I think people don't understand that the most important thing about Trump is not what Trump will do.

00:19:39.480 Like, Trump is going to fail. Like, I hope he takes good steps. I hope that he makes big moves. I hope that he holds to his word.

00:19:47.440 But I think fundamentally, Trump does not have the competency or follow through to get some of these things done.

00:19:54.220 I know a lot of people say, oh, then Ron DeSantis, Ron DeSantis. I get it.

00:19:57.200 But here is the most important thing about Trump. It's what the system is going to do to react to him.

00:20:03.320 We already see NBC just ran a story about how lobbying groups are trying to get the military to ignore Trump, which they don't even need to do.

00:20:11.620 He already did. Right. They already did. Right. But that's the kind of stuff we're talking about here.

00:20:16.700 The Trump drives the leftist establishment absolutely insane in a way that no one else does.

00:20:23.880 Yes, they're going to talk about the terrors of Ron DeSantis or whoever else.

00:20:28.560 They love Nikki Haley, actually. They're not even going to bother with that.

00:20:31.200 They haven't even bothered to pretend that Nikki Haley isn't their candidate in the Republican election.

00:20:38.380 But, you know, they'll talk a game about other people and how scary they are.

00:20:42.360 But with Trump, they make incredibly bad decisions that destroy themselves.

00:20:47.280 And the system is going to destroy itself before Trump's going to destroy the system.

00:20:51.420 That's just true. These people are going to tear themselves apart in public, try to destroy Trump before he ends up tearing the system apart.

00:20:59.600 But that's kind of part of the of the of the battle is somebody who will get these people kind of accelerate their insane desires so much and rip the mask so far off that they end up kind of destroying fundamental pillars of their power in order to do it.

00:21:16.140 We saw just a little bit of this. I know we have varying opinions on this, but we saw just a little bit of this with the actions at Harvard, right, where they were willing to undermine the credibility of Harvard to say that Harvard degrees don't matter just so they could insult Chris Rufo.

00:21:29.820 That's just a taste of the way that the left reacts to Trump.

00:21:33.740 They're willing to completely strip away all of their credibility, destroy all of the kind of the myth around why they should be in charge, their their political formula, why they should be the ruling elite.

00:21:44.860 They will become completely unhinged, mask completely off to put away somebody like Trump.

00:21:50.180 And so while he may not be the guy who's going to effectively manage every aspect of the dismantling of the federal bureaucracy, I think there are people, like you said, behind him who do understand the nature of the problem, who are working on many of these things, who will make more steps than there than there were in his previous administration, even though I still think not not sufficiently.

00:22:12.920 But I think that they do understand the problem better than they did before and that they have a better plan for implementing this stuff.

00:22:19.080 But ultimately, it's the way that the left is going to react to Trump that's going to make him the most valuable asset when we're working against, you know, kind of kind of the regime as it is.

00:22:28.820 I mean, this sort of does lend some credibility to the analysis put out by a certain shampoo magnate about the fragility of the regime that you listen to.

00:22:39.000 We witnessed during the Trump administration, the complete treason by the civil service.

00:22:46.260 We saw the military commit treason by, you know, not telling Trump about the military presence in Syria and was doing everything that they can to undermine him, both in the civil service, the courts and in the public press and media.

00:22:59.360 And again, you know, Richard Nixon was right.

00:23:00.800 The press is your enemy.

00:23:01.720 The press is your enemy.

00:23:02.680 Never forget that.

00:23:03.860 But it does illustrate that, you know, he's a bull in the China shop.

00:23:07.540 And if that means that Trump is either the acceleration at stake or it's just the middle finger to the system as to why I voted for him in 2016 and did it again happily in 2020, then so be it.

00:23:18.700 But again, as we talk about it, like the mask is off and you can't put it back on.

00:23:23.740 Things cannot go back to normal.

00:23:25.680 What is normal, right?

00:23:26.800 More offshoring of jobs, more illegal immigrants coming in that you want to replace, you know, the people that have been here since the founding to go away and to dilute their vote. 1.00

00:23:36.880 It's like money printing.

00:23:38.020 It's the quantitative easing of democracy.

00:23:40.080 Just print more votes.

00:23:41.520 Just bring in more voters.

00:23:43.100 People are tired of it.

00:23:44.280 And there's a reason why Trump has said what he said about immigration.

00:23:47.140 There's a reason why people are working like Stephen Miller and the rest of them.

00:23:51.000 Listen, like these are civilizational problems.

00:23:53.640 The United States of America cannot survive if this continues.

00:23:56.660 And the more people come together, whether it's on the Internet or in real life, like importing people and shipping them off to red state America in small towns, or we're going to take them to happy old New England and slap them in Maine, the least diverse state in the Union, according to the unfortunate travel labels and disadvantages of the USA today. 0.83

00:24:17.200 But it does illustrate, right, that that is fundamentally untenable.

00:24:21.720 It cannot last.

00:24:23.360 And the more we come together, the more we realize that we're very different and that the sort of egalitarian utopianism of modern liberalism fails right before our eyes.

00:24:32.160 And Trump has the opinions of a 90s Democrat.

00:24:35.560 I mean, no one would ever – he would be somewhere – he probably voted for Bill Clinton, for all I know.

00:24:40.440 But, you know, it does illustrate that a 90s Democrat makes you a fascist in the echoes of the Third Reich in 2024 America.

00:24:48.880 And that's how radically off course we've gotten.

00:24:52.860 But it should be no surprise to anybody.

00:24:55.200 This is where you're at, and this is how it's going to be.

00:24:57.580 And the average voter doesn't have to be reading Bertrand de Juvenile or Carl Schmitt to know that the people in Washington and the people on the cable news headlines really hate my existence.

00:25:08.540 And if there's one guy out there that remotely speaks to my existence and my needs and the people that, you know, vote for the Republican Party, then, yeah, I'm going to vote for him.

00:25:17.260 And for some reason, this is some magical, elusive, holy grail formula that a lot of pundits can't seem to grasp.

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00:25:39.980 Yeah, a couple things there.

00:25:42.860 First, like you're saying, a lot of people have a hard time understanding this shift.

00:25:46.700 I hear things all the time like, oh, well, this is, you know, the Republican Party moving to a model of victimhood or, you know, this is, you know, people being unable to choose the more competent candidate.

00:25:57.960 Guys, if you are lecturing the electorate, you are doing it wrong, okay?

00:26:02.020 I may not like democracy, but at least I understand how it works.

00:26:06.240 You're in complete denial about how it works.

00:26:08.180 You don't even understand the mechanisms at play.

00:26:11.000 But I think really importantly, like you're saying, immigration has to be an insane hair on fire issue for the right.

00:26:19.660 They have to understand, you are very close to no longer having any Democratic power inside the United States.

00:26:27.600 The Democrats understand all they have to do is run out the clock.

00:26:31.220 All they have to do is run out the clock.

00:26:32.740 They're importing entire states' worth of future left voters.

00:26:37.340 And another thing I hear from people all the time that is so brain dead, they're like, oh, well, you know, these people can't vote right away.

00:26:42.960 They're illegal immigrants. 0.99

00:26:43.800 Do you not understand what's happening in your country?

00:26:46.100 Do you not understand that many states have already made it entirely easy for these people to vote without, you know, without needing proper documentation?

00:26:55.020 And even if they can't, the fact that their children are immediately American citizens upon birth in the United States means that there's a permanent demographic shift in the United States that changes the electoral map for generations.

00:27:08.100 But this is just so hard, I guess, for a lot of Republicans to grasp.

00:27:11.240 Like you said, we still get these basically pathway to citizenship, you know, mass what effectively is mass amnesty bills from the Republican side of the aisle.

00:27:21.800 We still see people.

00:27:22.700 And yeah, I believe that guys like DeSantis want to change immigration in at some level that they do want to enforce the border at a higher level.

00:27:30.640 I don't think that's something that they're blowing smoke about.

00:27:34.260 But I don't think they understand the level, the desperate nature of what's happening.

00:27:39.660 We're talking about permanent shifts that will make sure that democracy never goes your way ever again.

00:27:45.360 The left understands exactly what they're doing.

00:27:47.060 And all they have to do is keep you from taking action.

00:27:49.740 That's why I'm hoping that Greg Abbott's actions are real and permanent and going to be expanded.

00:27:57.120 I'm hoping to see guys like Ron DeSantis take leadership roles at the state level to shut down illegal immigration because it's not happening at a federal level.

00:28:06.400 I'm sorry.

00:28:06.740 It's just not happening at a federal level.

00:28:08.900 Hopefully, Trump gets into office and he can do a lot more.

00:28:12.620 But you really need to see states who say, no, we're going to step up and we're going to fill the gaps where the federal government is falling down.

00:28:18.220 And until you have that kind of urgency that understanding this is an existential threat to any form of a political voice in the United States for the right, then you just don't understand what's happening.

00:28:30.940 You're on the edge of this thing.

00:28:33.520 You can't really afford to continue to just twiddle your thumbs while the other side makes sure to just dilute your vote to the point where it's never going to matter again.

00:28:42.040 Yeah, I mean, that's the fundamental fact of this election and of the times that we are in.

00:28:51.500 And I know it sounds like a broken record for some people who are already tuned in to these things.

00:28:56.580 But I mean, you know, it's not just about illegal immigration.

00:29:00.480 It also is about birthright citizenship.

00:29:02.160 It is about the fact that there are members of Congress right now, like Representative Ted Lieu, who happily rejoices and joyously smirks and says it with a sneer and an uplifted nose about the fact that, you know, your demographics in this country are limited and your days are numbered in terms of electoral relevance.

00:29:22.980 Because they're, you know, and I'm not the world's biggest fan of this guy, but, you know, who is the he's the commentator that you had an interview with a while back.

00:29:34.200 But he had said, like, listen, Democrats like you dead, but they'll settle for your submission.

00:29:38.200 It's a very good point.

00:29:40.000 And Michael Malice.

00:29:40.940 Yeah, Michael Malice's point.

00:29:42.280 Yeah, his name escaped me.

00:29:43.080 Thank you.

00:29:43.700 Yeah, he's absolutely right there.

00:29:44.820 Like, you know, they're OK if you're like a white Republican in California where your voice doesn't matter and you have to suffer because, you know, you can vote.

00:29:51.640 But we both know that that vote really doesn't matter all that much outside of a few districts in the House of Representatives where, you know, California still has Republicans.

00:30:01.140 And so, you know, again, this is that that that statement is true.

00:30:04.820 They want your they want you dead, but they'll settle for your submission and they'll get that submission by permanently changing the demographics of this country. 0.64

00:30:12.040 And it's insane to think about because this was something that despite her sort of positions on politics now, it's something that Ann Coulter was right about, you know, over 15 years ago.

00:30:21.640 And they got her banned from ever speaking at CPAC again.

00:30:24.840 But this is the fundamental reality of how our electoral system is.

00:30:29.020 And so if one guy is willing to say, listen, you've got to send people back and you actually have to have a border that exists, then so be it.

00:30:36.140 And I think Greg Abbott should be the example that Governor Ron DeSantis and others do when it comes to illegal immigration and migration in general.

00:30:43.880 It's just that, listen, the United States Border Patrol is facilitating, you know, the invasion of the United States.

00:30:50.200 Tell them to pound sand. 0.71

00:30:51.660 And again, all these things facilitate the same fundamental point about regime fragility.

00:30:56.420 And, you know, if they're doing all of this out and open and in the public, that kind of hubris usually means that you're desperate or you have a lot of power.

00:31:06.180 And as we can see between trying to manage three different areas of conflict at once, the fragility of our supply chain systems and the inability to have, you know, competent airlines or even competent, you know, military recruitment numbers.

00:31:20.480 It illustrates that things are not as strong as they may be.

00:31:23.960 And the more you can do to put stressors on the regime, the better, because this is fundamentally unsustainable.

00:31:30.920 And I'm not an advocate for, you know, anything illegal, but it does illustrate that the position we're in right now is tenuous at best, but outright on the brink of disaster much sooner than we think.

00:31:45.020 What do you think about Vivek's immediate withdrawal after this?

00:31:48.120 I mean, obviously, it came in last, so you understand that part.

00:31:51.620 But many people, myself included, kind of pointed out that it didn't feel like Vivek was really running for president so much as playing the Trump proxy.

00:32:00.960 Trump couldn't be there in the debates, or rather, he shouldn't be there in the debates due to political strategy.

00:32:06.160 And so you needed someone who was going to voice something that was very close to the vision that he had, to the policies that he had,

00:32:13.400 but wasn't going to be sticking in for the long term, didn't really have delusions that he was going to win that election.

00:32:20.860 What do you think?

00:32:21.600 Was Vivek always a Trump proxy?

00:32:23.620 Was that just a happy accident?

00:32:25.200 Is it actually his position in the results that he withdrew?

00:32:29.120 What do you think is going on there?

00:32:30.500 Well, up until very recently, just a few days before the caucuses, I mean, Trump had been more or less mum on Vivek Ramaswamy,

00:32:37.400 which makes me think that perhaps those two had some communication.

00:32:41.280 It wasn't until leading up, like a week before the caucuses, did Trump just unleash on Truth Social that Vivek Ramaswamy is not MACA or Make America Great Again or whatever.

00:32:51.600 And so to me, I feel like that was a signal of saying, listen, Vivek, we've probably got some deals going on.

00:32:55.720 Drop out after Iowa, give me your endorsement, and serve as my proxy.

00:32:59.480 Again, I don't work for any of these campaigns.

00:33:02.000 I'm not getting any checks from anybody.

00:33:03.420 If I were, I'd be driving a much better car than I am now, but neither here nor there.

00:33:08.600 It does illustrate to me, I think, that that sudden heel turn, right, you know, like about face, like, all right, Vivek is the threat now,

00:33:15.700 really does illustrate that he's served his purpose, which has been platforming the ideas of what a Trump administration would look like.

00:33:23.500 He has diverted all of this energy away from Nikki Haley, Ron DeSantis, from attacking Trump.

00:33:29.680 They were all focused on Vivek Ramaswamy, the only person who didn't take that bait, which is funny, considering he loves to eat everything, was Chris Christie.

00:33:38.100 He was the only one attacking Trump directly, whereas everyone in the debate stage focused on Vivek.

00:33:43.820 I think Vivek will probably have some sort of cabinet position if Trump wins or if Trump announces some sort of ticket lineup for what his government will look like.

00:33:51.680 But he has served a very good job at platforming ideas like, you know, the Great Replacement and so on, even if they were worded slightly differently.

00:34:00.760 You know, he's done a lot of good at making himself sound interesting.

00:34:03.680 And in a lot of ways, you know, he sounded a lot like Curtis Yarvin about, like, the administrative state and what to do with the regime.

00:34:09.080 And so, I mean, it's a shame, you know, press F in chat for H1B mold bug.

00:34:14.000 But it is good that a sign for potentiality that maybe Trump will now be more active in the primary, because I think he knows who his threats are.

00:34:22.140 And his threats, of course, are the Biden administration openly coordinating with these officials, you know, trying to prosecute him and put him in jail.

00:34:28.380 But also the Republican Party that wants someone like Nikki Haley or Ron DeSantis to be on the ballot instead of him.

00:34:34.540 And Vivek has some pull, and it does illustrate, I think, some of the background inner workings of the RNC.

00:34:40.900 You know, this isn't the first time that we've seen a push to change the RNC in general.

00:34:46.180 On the debate stage, Vivek called out Ronna McDaniel to resign.

00:34:50.860 I mean, this wasn't the first challenge that she had either.

00:34:53.000 I mean, Kamit Dillon also tried to seize the RNC chairmanship away from her.

00:34:58.860 And so, you know, there's sort of this background balance between sort of maybe like a more Mormon waspish contingent of the Republican Party versus the sort of up and coming multi-ethnic aspect that the GOP wants between Hispanic voters and those from the Indian subcontinent.

00:35:14.560 So we're seeing a lot of interesting things play out with the RNC.

00:35:17.580 But him endorsing Trump is a good thing, and him and Tucker Carlson, who I have my gripes with, sure.

00:35:23.940 But both of those two have served very good jobs of being Trump proxies and speaking for Trump and Trumpism.

00:35:30.620 So may they continue to do so.

00:35:33.840 What do you think about the shift of kind of the hatred of the neocon core?

00:35:38.300 I mean, I think one thing we could all agree on is that the kind of the hatred for the policies of Nikki Haley.

00:35:45.140 I mean, DeSantis is a little closer, I think, than the rest to that.

00:35:49.740 But even he seemed to be pretty hostile to a number of the kind of neocon assertions of Haley.

00:35:55.100 If nothing, whether DeSantis legitimately opposes those or not, he certainly knows he has to.

00:36:02.040 And isn't that a great sign that in the Republican primary, the position people need to take unless they're trying to cash donor checks, if they actually want to connect with the base, is that kind of the neocon attitude is dead.

00:36:16.440 We don't want endless war.

00:36:17.940 We don't want to be a proxy for funneling money to weapons contractors.

00:36:21.940 There's kind of that shift away from what would have been a standard-bearing portion of the party just an election cycle or two ago, I think, is a pretty good sign going forward about what the Republican Party is, or at least what the base is, if not the party.

00:36:38.560 Yeah, well, I mean, the base is, you know, in full agreement with Trump's positions on immigration.

00:36:43.440 They could really care less about trying to go to war again in the Middle East or trying to send billions of dollars to someone that is actively, you know, depopulated to the nation of Ukraine and has persecuted Christians in that area.

00:36:56.760 So I think it really does indicate that, you know, the neoconservatives, however, are rearing their ugly head again.

00:37:02.560 And we have to understand that neoconservatism did not start out as the way that we know it from the early 2000s.

00:37:09.740 You know, when you look up that famous article, What the Heck is a Neoconservative?, Max Boot will tell you that it's primarily based on foreign policy and it's based on America's relationship to Israel in the Middle East.

00:37:18.480 It didn't start that way.

00:37:20.180 It started much earlier in the 60s and 70s as a reaction to the Civil Rights Act and racial quotas that were being challenged in the court.

00:37:26.740 You know, you see this with Norman Potterets and his son, John, who would later work in H.W. Bush and with Ronald Reagan as a speechwriter.

00:37:34.220 And you're seeing that happen now.

00:37:35.840 And I know that you and I have we don't see completely eye to eye on it.

00:37:39.400 But I mean, that's part of the Harvard stuff.

00:37:41.520 I mean, Bill Ackman, right?

00:37:43.240 He was interested in having a Democrat that could challenge Trump.

00:37:46.480 I mean, so like, let's go listen to Dean Phillips on a Twitter space, not, you know, how do we work with, you know, the Republicans on anything or anything like that.

00:37:53.680 So neoconservatism is making it's it's rearing its ugly head again.

00:37:57.980 Nikki Haley is the ultimate representation of that.

00:38:00.900 And again, she is just an Indian version of Hillary Clinton running as a Republican. 1.00

00:38:05.620 And that has to be voted out and it has to be institutionally crushed and destroyed.

00:38:10.520 The problem is, is that there is a lot of moneyed interests that want that to stay as part and parcel for it.

00:38:16.860 And there are a lot of people that still buy into that, as we saw by her third place results in the Iowa caucuses.

00:38:23.600 I mean, she actually won one county out of ninety nine. 0.99

00:38:27.040 I mean, it could have been a complete Trump sweep, but she literally won by one vote in the university town. 1.00

00:38:33.960 So in that county in Iowa.

00:38:35.460 So, I mean, it does illustrate that that's the real challenge.

00:38:38.440 And neoconservatism has to die. 0.96

00:38:40.700 If America wants to live, neoconservatism has to go, because if not, the GOP is going to be the same party it has always been, where it is a beautiful loser loses with honor.

00:38:51.860 You know, always rah-rahs about the military taxes and the border, but always, always submits itself, as it should, as the outer party, as a loser to the powers that be. 0.98

00:39:04.780 And if the base knows that that's a bunch of, you know, a crock of crap, the base wants something completely different. 0.98

00:39:11.280 I mean, this is why there's people willing to vote for Trump over and over and over again. 0.99

00:39:14.680 And so be it, right?

00:39:16.640 But unfortunately, neoconservatism is resurging, and it's going to resurge, especially during an election year.

00:39:22.940 And I mean, it feels a lot like 1968 in some ways.

00:39:25.680 You've got a war going on in the Middle East.

00:39:27.520 You've got open ethnic resentment happening in the streets, as well as within the news cycle.

00:39:32.240 And you've got the Republican Party fighting over differing factions and what to do.

00:39:36.520 And the left is fractured between its old-style guard of Biden and more radical progressive elements inside the party as well in the Congress.

00:39:44.840 So clearly where we're at right now is an echo of the past.

00:39:48.360 And just like in the 1960s, we saw neoconservatism be born, we're seeing it reemerge its ugly head again as well.

00:39:54.640 So it's important for us to study our electoral history as much as we look at our day-to-day politics.

00:40:01.700 Do you think these people really want a war with Iran?

00:40:04.200 I mean, I know that they're stirring the pot, but doesn't that seem insane?

00:40:08.740 Like, they still haven't technically wound down Ukraine yet.

00:40:13.280 And, of course, Israel is having everything that's going on. 0.82

00:40:16.680 I mean, is the United States government really foolish enough to start a full-scale conflict with a country that can actually fight back? 0.96

00:40:26.700 Because that seems insane. 0.99

00:40:28.420 Like, I've written articles about why these people are wild-eyed, insane people, and they'll take us right off the cliff.

00:40:36.180 And I believe that.

00:40:37.080 But even for me, who's incredibly cynical about the kind of level of competence and restraint of our elites, that does seem crazy, right?

00:40:45.360 Like, if they go into that, there's a full-scale civilizational collapse scenario, it feels like, if they get the wrong bounce out of a war with Iran. 0.62

00:40:55.660 Well, I think that the U.S. government's in a really complicated position, like, regardless of how you feel about Israel or going to war with Iran, right?

00:41:04.780 Like, I know that John McCain is looking up at us right now and is just begging that, you know, even in hell he can get that war with Iran happening.

00:41:12.740 A cool drink of water.

00:41:13.620 Yeah, it would be, yeah.

00:41:15.280 But even, I won't go too far into scriptural references there.

00:41:19.660 But yes, not even a drop of water to cool his tongue would be a war in Iran.

00:41:23.880 But the thing is, is that, you know, the shipping attacks that have happened in the Red Sea, in the Gulf of Aden, I mean, historically speaking, you know, attacks on American maritime shipping is, like, the oldest casus belli in American history.

00:41:40.820 Like, are the war with the Barbary states and our other piracy cleanup efforts throughout the 20th and 21st century.

00:41:47.700 I mean, it's a very straight, open and shut case, like, attacking American shipping.

00:41:52.300 This affects American national security interests. 0.96

00:41:54.420 We're going to go bomb the people that are doing this.

00:41:56.700 The problem, however, is that, you know, despite Biden's efforts to try and tell the Israelis to maybe cool it a little bit, 0.78

00:42:04.820 there seems to be no ceasefire in Gaza anytime soon.

00:42:08.460 And the Israelis have said that the war is going to continue for the foreseeable future in the months ahead.

00:42:13.660 Major maritime shipping insurance companies have said that most maritime shipping will continue to go around Africa for the time being,

00:42:20.400 or at least those that are aligned with Western and American shipping.

00:42:23.740 And so just avoid the area lest you get caught in the crossfire.

00:42:26.540 And despite the American and British efforts to bomb them, there are still attacks happening.

00:42:32.280 And Iran has the capability of striking its own domestic munitions and arms and whatnot.

00:42:37.400 It can produce those things.

00:42:38.640 And we've already seen even prior to the war in Gaza from October 7th that there were strikes against Iranian munitions facilities.

00:42:46.660 You could say that even without a declaration of war from the Iranians or the American Congress, like, we are at war with Iran, at least by a proxy. 0.79

00:42:53.540 We have been for years in Yemen between the Israelis, the Saudis, and the Americans, you know, helping fight the Houthis as well.

00:43:01.360 The Russians, the Chinese, and the Iranians have been supporting the Houthis as well.

00:43:05.280 This war has the very likely ability to escalate.

00:43:09.920 And all it takes is for that security dilemma to trigger either miscommunication or, you know,

00:43:16.700 someone doesn't get orders clear enough and directly and things get hot very fast.

00:43:20.900 The problem is, is that America doesn't have the positions it had in Iraq or in Afghanistan, as it once did.

00:43:28.600 And, you know, there's the very real likelihood that it could happen.

00:43:33.580 I think that the United States government, whatever is left of old guard State Department officials,

00:43:39.760 knows that that's not a tenable position for us to do.

00:43:42.680 And we're not in a position to do it.

00:43:44.800 I mean, whether because we don't have the capacity to build, our ammunition stores desperately need to be refilled and restored.

00:43:52.700 And plus, we still have a major recruiting crisis going on.

00:43:55.260 And it's hard to convince the average American, because most combat deaths in the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan were predominantly white males who tended to vote Republican.

00:44:05.680 And those guys aren't signing up to fight for Uncle Sam anymore.

00:44:08.780 That, you know, this leads to severe questions about America's military readiness.

00:44:12.800 And this is something that our regional allies in Europe and in the Middle East are concerned about.

00:44:18.480 So it does put America in a very tenuous position.

00:44:21.760 Is war with Iran likely?

00:44:23.320 There's always potential.

00:44:24.340 You can't rule it out.

00:44:25.280 But I think that the U.S. government, alongside the Iranians and the Chinese and the Russians, are like,

00:44:30.760 well, maybe let's not go into traditional, like, state versus state power conflict, because we already know what that looks like.

00:44:38.880 And it looks like Ukraine.

00:44:40.520 And, you know, despite our efforts in Afghanistan and Iraq, the war in Ukraine is vastly different.

00:44:46.260 Very trench based, less open movement.

00:44:49.700 And we've seen the power of drones far greater than any of the stuff that we did in Iraq and Afghanistan.

00:44:54.580 And so I just to sort of make a long story short, I don't it's not impossible that there could be war with Iran.

00:45:00.320 But I think even the people who are trying to keep this weekend at Bernie's administration afloat know that we're not in a position to do it, at least just yet.

00:45:11.100 So we've got, obviously, New Hampshire near the end of the month, and then we've got Nevada.

00:45:19.180 South Carolina is going to be interesting because, of course, that's Haley's home state.

00:45:23.420 If Trump crushes her there, then you have to wonder.

00:45:25.700 I mean, I guess she just sticks in no matter what, because she's got the funding of of kind of the institutions and she can just hang out to see if Trump gets removed.

00:45:34.740 But a loss inside her own home state would would be pretty devastating.

00:45:39.960 And then, you know, you've got Michigan, a few more, and then you get to Super Tuesday at the beginning of March.

00:45:45.840 What are what are your predictions for for kind of candidates hanging in?

00:45:51.220 I know predictions are always the most exciting part of any of these.

00:45:54.860 But do you think that all of these, you know, we're now down to three, really, do you think that all three of these candidates will will be able to hang in until Super Tuesday?

00:46:04.600 Do you think I think I think Haley's going to have the donations no matter what.

00:46:08.040 But I do wonder if Ron DeSantis can continue to fund himself to Super Tuesday if he doesn't pick up a pretty big win in a place like New Hampshire.

00:46:15.320 I think that Ron will between Nikki and Ron, I think Ron will drop out first.

00:46:21.420 And the question is really going to be, who does Ron endorse?

00:46:24.560 And again, like it's this procedural bit over over delegates.

00:46:28.260 And we saw what happened to Ron Paul in 2012.

00:46:30.500 We saw what happened with sort of people telling the delegates to vote with their conscience in the 2016 Republican National Convention when it comes to making Trump the nominee and so many efforts to stop him.

00:46:41.800 But I'm not a betting man.

00:46:43.820 I'm not manned to make predictions.

00:46:45.660 I try and look at how things are and go from there.

00:46:49.140 I would say that Nikki will stay in probably up until the convention.

00:46:53.840 I mean, it reminds me of the 2008 election where like Mike Huckabee stayed on way longer than he should have against John McCain.

00:47:01.280 But I see DeSantis dropping out first between the three of them.

00:47:05.260 But I mean, if Trump wants to, you know, I don't think Trump should rest on his laurels.

00:47:09.220 I mean, he's already fighting against the regime in terms of those those all those legal cases and the federal courts, the primary ballot situation alongside Georgia, New York.

00:47:20.220 He needs to be seen more because, I mean, again, I think the reason why so many people thought that DeSantis or Nikki would do so much better in Iowa than they did is because there's been zero media focus on Trump.

00:47:31.280 He's this looming elephant in the room, you know, this bright orange elephant that no one wants to really talk about.

00:47:36.740 But, you know, Trump needs to make his face seen.

00:47:39.140 It was cool when he tweeted out the mugshot on Twitter.com after he got his account reinstated.

00:47:43.240 You need to go back to Twitter.

00:47:44.860 You need to go back to being more of a media blitz.

00:47:48.880 You need to be doing more interviews.

00:47:50.040 You need to say yes to the camera more often.

00:47:51.920 People need to see you.

00:47:52.980 I know some people would say the less that we see of Trump, the more people like him and compared to what people are saying.

00:47:58.760 And there's some valid arguments for that.

00:48:00.680 But Trump needs to start fighting more, you know, and I mean, it's good when people like Vivek or J.D. Vance or Rand Paul are doing the whole never Nikki stuff.

00:48:12.120 That's a good thing.

00:48:12.880 But if Trump wants to coast into the RNC victory, I think he needs to seriously put the effort in the ground game.

00:48:19.860 And that's what's really going to matter going forward.

00:48:21.660 But DeSantis will probably drop out first before Nikki Haley.

00:48:25.360 Don't hold me to that.

00:48:26.760 But that's just my gut check that people want the warmonger.

00:48:30.380 The Indian Hillary will stay in much longer than the governor of Florida will in this race. 1.00

00:48:34.780 Yeah, if due to funding, if nothing else, the institutional level of funding.

00:48:38.900 Funding in spite.

00:48:40.060 Yeah, powerful weapons.

00:48:42.120 All right, man.

00:48:42.640 Well, we're going to go ahead and pivot over to the questions of the people.

00:48:45.440 But before we do that, please tell them where to find your excellent content.

00:48:49.000 Yes, as always, Oren, thank you so much for having me on.

00:48:51.100 It's always a pleasure to speak with you and your wonderful audience over here at The Blaze.

00:48:55.240 You can find me over on YouTube, Twitter, Substack, Libsyn.

00:48:59.400 All of my links can be found at findmyfriends.net slash theprudentialist.

00:49:04.300 Just look for the frog and you'll find me there.

00:49:06.340 I just put out a brand new episode of our Stalin's War series.

00:49:10.160 I've been reading through it chapter by chapter with guests, breaking down Sean McMeekin's fantastic history of World War II and just how evil Stalin was and how you really don't hate FDR as much as you think that you should.

00:49:22.440 And alongside that, later this week, I will have an essay out on how to re-enchant the world.

00:49:27.360 So if you're interested in all that sort of stuff, go ahead and look for me.

00:49:30.800 You can't miss the frog.

00:49:31.920 And as always, Oren, thank you for having me on.

00:49:34.440 Absolutely, man.

00:49:35.200 All right.

00:49:35.460 Let's go over to our super chats here.

00:49:39.640 Mr. McGee says, if only Trump was as bad as they say he is.

00:49:43.800 Yes, we all deserve the Trump the media is afraid of.

00:49:47.080 Yeah, I wish I wish we lived the world of the liberal nightmare, because every time they like, do you see that advertisement they put out where it was like January 2025 and you live in quadrants and you have your mandatory patriotism day?

00:49:58.600 It's like, where's that world?

00:50:00.560 You know, like give me the right wing hunger games, man.

00:50:04.160 Like this is, you know, instead I got like lame tweets about how like, you know, he's not MAGA.

00:50:09.860 And I'm like, yeah, but we could we could be cooler.

00:50:12.520 We could be cooler.

00:50:13.200 Fewer trading cards, more dystopian.

00:50:16.180 Yeah, less NFTs, more, more, more based world, you know.

00:50:20.980 Let's see.

00:50:22.060 Tamid Hassan Arat, maybe, hopefully.

00:50:24.820 No enemies on the right is a good principle.

00:50:27.080 How about the corollary?

00:50:28.980 No friends on the left.

00:50:30.200 Are alliances with non-right groups possible?

00:50:34.700 This is a good question.

00:50:35.900 A lot of people are reaching out to the left.

00:50:37.580 I think you do have to reach out to the left.

00:50:39.040 I don't think there's anything wrong with having some level of dialogue there.

00:50:44.040 I think that's kind of still part of what's going on.

00:50:47.800 I think the mistake people make is when they attempt to incorporate.

00:50:52.760 They think that if they can shift the party just a little to the left, if they could just shift the ideas a little to the left, then they'll go ahead and secure victory.

00:50:59.160 They'll get that middle ground.

00:51:00.600 They'll bring all these kind of moderates over, and then they'll kind of have that electoral victory.

00:51:05.940 My attempt to avoid the neocon cycle is always the same.

00:51:11.320 Don't welcome anyone in until they've told you they're completely wrong.

00:51:14.640 They were completely wrong, and they plan to change their ways.

00:51:17.340 No, oh, I didn't leave the left, left, left me.

00:51:20.000 No, that's not useful.

00:51:21.160 You want people who have truly seen the right, said, I've made a mistake, not people who said, oh, I was betrayed, and I was right the whole time.

00:51:28.540 Those people are of no use of you.

00:51:30.080 Yeah, absolutely.

00:51:31.340 Some of my favorite people I like to talk to are leftists. 0.99

00:51:34.180 I think sometimes they're morons, but they're fun people to talk to, right? 0.98

00:51:37.360 And they can give you a perspective of what the other side thinks. 0.99

00:51:40.600 But if you are craving, and this is the problem, whether you call it the neocon cycle or not, if you're craving the approval and attention of leftists, you're a leftist at heart.

00:51:51.940 You're not a rightist, and you should go back to that camp and just stop trying to play the act.

00:51:56.820 I mean, this is the problem James Lindsay has, right?

00:51:58.640 Like, he is a leftist spiritually, and unfortunately, he hasn't decided to go back to his camp.

00:52:05.340 He's still doing the left-left-me thing, and he's going to be isolated and alone and cringe for the rest of his days.

00:52:12.420 People don't understand that your identification here is not your ideology.

00:52:16.880 It's the status hierarchy you're looking at.

00:52:19.240 If your status hierarchy you're trying to evaluate yourself in is the leftist one, you're a leftist.

00:52:25.840 Like, that's where you come from.

00:52:27.140 If you are looking towards a more right-wing hierarchy, then that's the direction.

00:52:31.340 Whether or not you, like, are espousing free market capitalism at the time, that's not the critical thing.

00:52:37.980 If you are, kind of sociologically, if that's the way you're, the direction you're looking, that's the way you're lining up, that's how you're going to orient yourself in every other aspect.

00:52:49.560 It's not just the current checklist of ideology that makes you right-wing or left-wing.

00:52:53.480 Trey says, everyone just needs to watch the Michael Moore speech about Trump being a Molotov cocktail for average Americans over and over until they understand the moment we're in.

00:53:04.620 Absolutely.

00:53:05.300 Michael Moore understands the current moment much better than many political commentators on the right.

00:53:11.520 He just does.

00:53:12.620 He is wrong about all kinds of other things, but he was right about that. 0.98

00:53:18.060 He understood that particular moment in time, and that is still true.

00:53:22.320 And if you don't keep that in the forefront of your analysis, people always make this mistake.

00:53:28.980 They're like, oh, you're pro this, you're pro that.

00:53:31.520 I'm really not.

00:53:32.580 Like, I don't think democracy works at all.

00:53:34.820 That's not the point.

00:53:35.680 The point is, I'm trying to make accurate political assessments.

00:53:39.400 And when I do that, mainly because I'm kind of disconnected from, oh, I need to, you know, my vote is the most important thing in the world, and I need to emotionally support the right candidate.

00:53:49.200 But because, like, I can kind of disassociate myself from that, I can just look at the facts and say, this is what's happening.

00:53:56.160 This is the way that people are approaching this election.

00:53:58.860 And it's not about perfect policy positions, and it's not about perfect execution.

00:54:03.400 It's I want to throw a Molotov cocktail at the edifice of my enemy.

00:54:08.200 Like that.

00:54:08.380 Yeah, I mean, that's why I voted for him, and I'll happily vote for him again.

00:54:12.840 And, yeah, that's the woke or more correct than the mainstream sometimes.

00:54:15.900 And that was one of those instances.

00:54:17.100 Michael Moore was 100% right.

00:54:18.980 He really was.

00:54:20.780 Creeper Weirdo says, people are calling it the Monoparty for a reason.

00:54:23.620 Absolutely.

00:54:25.020 And he also follows up with, reminder, the right could elect Jesus Christ with Mr. Rogers as VP.

00:54:30.340 And tomorrow, and you still be getting interviews with Judas, they think you're the bad guy.

00:54:35.280 Yeah, that's exactly right.

00:54:36.920 I mean, again, we nominated Mitt Romney, right?

00:54:41.160 Like, we nominated Mitt Romney, the cleanest cut guy.

00:54:44.700 Like, it's the most polite guy.

00:54:46.800 He's doing all the things that the left says they care about.

00:54:50.140 They don't care.

00:54:51.120 They're still going to call him the worst things.

00:54:53.660 They're still going to portray him as evil.

00:54:56.300 So don't pretend like that matters.

00:54:58.740 That's not going to make a difference.

00:55:00.660 Yeah, that's a very good super chat, Creeper Weirdo. 0.97

00:55:03.140 It's so true. 0.84

00:55:03.860 You know, Jesus Christ could be running for president, and Judas and Barbarus would be 0.74

00:55:08.480 on the opposing ticket, and they'd be voting and fortifying it for him.

00:55:11.600 They'd say, give me Bar...

00:55:12.540 Yeah.

00:55:13.080 Yeah.

00:55:13.520 Give me Barabbas.

00:55:14.380 All right.

00:55:14.640 Ronald McNuggets says, what could convince you, AA is right, that the regime will normalize

00:55:19.900 Trump, woke, goes away, and he prolongs the lifespan of the regime?

00:55:24.240 So what would convince me of this would be a leftist acceptance of the legitimacy of Trump.

00:55:34.340 And I don't think that's coming because it didn't happen last time, and they've already

00:55:39.300 made it very clear that they won't allow it.

00:55:43.500 Again, we're getting articles from NBC about why military officers should commit treason.

00:55:50.620 Like, why flag officers should commit treason.

00:55:54.400 That's the starting position of the elites right now.

00:55:59.540 I don't see them getting a hold of themselves and legitimizing Trump.

00:56:04.000 But if they do, AA will have been right.

00:56:06.980 I think that the way you would see AA be right is the neocons win.

00:56:12.640 That's that straightforward.

00:56:14.180 Neoconservatism has always served as the containment for the radical fringes of the

00:56:17.220 American right, whether they've destroyed the John Birch Society, which was right about 1.00

00:56:20.900 most things, or even more of the new right elements that emerged in the 1980s with people

00:56:26.940 like Sam Francis and Bob Whitaker and others that were seriously campaigning for Ronald Reagan

00:56:31.880 and the Reagan Revolution and watched that be contained, as Pat Buchanan wrote about,

00:56:36.180 where the right went wrong.

00:56:38.260 If the neocons manage to successfully contain any of this energy and they give you these

00:56:43.700 milquetoast compromises as they have years and years and years and years before throughout

00:56:48.140 the last 60 years, then that's the woke getting put away.

00:56:51.120 And if the neocons win, then I think AA is right. 0.53

00:56:54.360 Denise B says, the whole MAGA slogan implies going back to normal.

00:57:02.240 I don't see Trump or his supporters having a coherent future vision.

00:57:06.740 Do you see one?

00:57:07.600 No, no, of course not.

00:57:09.220 No, there's no coherent ideological or more importantly, kind of moral vision set forward

00:57:18.680 for the country.

00:57:19.260 I don't think anyone at the moment really has the ability to bind these 50 states together

00:57:25.760 behind kind of one vision of where we're going, one identity of who we could be.

00:57:31.380 I don't think that exists right now.

00:57:33.080 However, while I don't think that we could go back to normal, I do think that there is

00:57:40.360 at least a understanding that there is a connection to the past, a connection to a legacy that is

00:57:45.700 honorable, that is valuable, that matters and should be carried in the future that does

00:57:50.600 exist in MAGA.

00:57:51.580 And that's more of the stuff that's valuable about it rather than getting things back to

00:57:57.000 normal.

00:57:57.300 I don't think that's happening.

00:57:59.320 Yeah.

00:57:59.900 And that's why we said the Michael Moore thing was correct, was it?

00:58:03.460 It's a Molotov cocktail.

00:58:04.900 And I mean, that's why people want to vote for him, because people don't see a coherent

00:58:09.700 vision for the future outside of gay race communism that we see from the left. 0.99

00:58:14.080 So if me wanting to destroy or having a schizophrenic view of politics means that that doesn't happen,

00:58:21.120 I think people are more than happy to vote for the guy who may not have any idea what

00:58:25.700 to do next.

00:58:26.880 But the nice thing is, is that there are the Project 2025 people, the Center for American

00:58:30.700 Renewal.

00:58:31.160 While they're not 100% on board with some of the things maybe I agree with, right, or

00:58:35.400 that I would want for America, they at least have a vision.

00:58:38.540 And Trump is the entry vehicle for that vision to happen.

00:58:41.780 So, I mean, you're going to get a bull in a China shop, but there are some people in

00:58:45.820 the background that are casually like buying the bill of sale and the deeds for certain

00:58:50.340 properties and lenses and things like that.

00:58:52.300 So there's a vision, but it's not Trump's, but there are people working with Trump that

00:58:56.740 have a vision.

00:58:57.360 So there's some hope, I guess.

00:59:00.140 Life of Brian says,

00:59:01.860 Re-Harvard, given Gay's background in the Haitian construction and how aggressively she was 1.00

00:59:07.940 promoted, protected, has anyone found a Clinton link?

00:59:11.920 Good question.

00:59:12.800 I have not looked into that.

00:59:14.240 I'm not aware of that currently.

00:59:17.220 However, at this point, I think that Gay has been removed from view, and that will probably 1.00

00:59:23.160 be the last you'll ever hear about her.

00:59:25.840 I think she'll simply be replaced with someone who is as progressive, maybe more friendly

00:59:32.960 to Israel than she was, or the cause of censorship on behalf of Israel, but otherwise will be

00:59:40.240 as leftist.

00:59:41.280 I don't think that that's why I think Moldbug had some good points.

00:59:46.640 While I still think it's a victory for Rufo, I think that you do have to understand that

00:59:51.460 kind of once she's out of the limelight, that that institution remains more or less.

00:59:58.220 According to Gay's little background on an article from 2018, I just looked it up, her

01:00:04.740 parents came to the United States over 50 years ago, so I doubt that there is a Bill Clinton

01:00:09.340 link from the 90s.

01:00:10.480 That must have been in the 1970s or so.

01:00:13.140 So probably not, but I'm more on the side that Claudine's, the quote unquote scalping

01:00:19.380 is not as big of a victory as people are making it out to be.

01:00:22.720 Yes, targeting the regime for its credibility is always good, but again, I think this is

01:00:27.080 just the re-emersgence of the neocons into the main public political stream.

01:00:32.380 Logo here says, find Trump's rhetoric about Latinas as not their best poison is irrelevant

01:00:39.620 to immigration and only serves to throw away votes.

01:00:42.880 How do you explain?

01:00:44.480 Again, I would think you just have to look at the numbers for those that voted for Trump.

01:00:50.540 I don't think that, you know, kind of the Hispanic community necessarily agrees with you.

01:00:56.000 I think many people in the Hispanic community who might be tempted to vote Republican already

01:01:03.380 understand that they came here for a reason and they were looking to get away from much

01:01:08.440 of kind of where they were at and they would like to make sure that America stays America 0.92

01:01:12.360 so that they and their children can enjoy the benefits of an American lifestyle.

01:01:17.780 So I don't see a whole lot of evidence that Trump has scared away Hispanic voters with

01:01:25.020 that particular rhetoric.

01:01:27.620 And I think it is important for him to emphasize the importance of ending immigration. 1.00

01:01:32.440 So I don't really see a lot of downside of that.

01:01:35.200 And either way, I don't think pandering to that demographic is the way to win either way.

01:01:41.160 So that would be my response.

01:01:43.500 Additionally, most of the most Republicans agree with it.

01:01:47.060 And the people that voted in the primaries agree with it more than the average polling,

01:01:50.740 according to CBS, on those remarks.

01:01:52.720 And also, immigration is a huge reason. 0.97

01:01:56.080 Immigration and economics are the two main reasons why the traditionally Democratic Rio Grande 0.98

01:02:01.560 Valley in South Texas that borders the United States and Mexico went for Trump in 2020.

01:02:06.920 This is why you saw multiracial whiteness. 1.00

01:02:08.640 And so far, that seems to be the winning strategy is that you can either try and pursue this quote

01:02:14.840 unquote, like white understanding of how like politics work in America.

01:02:17.980 And like, yeah, you're going to be called, you know, multiracial whiteness and bigots or 0.93

01:02:21.460 Nazis by the left.

01:02:22.460 But hey, we're the ones that want to make sure your job isn't cut or offshored.

01:02:27.040 And so, yeah, I mean, people are going to go for it.

01:02:30.220 And the Republicans definitely see that their base knows what times it is.

01:02:34.680 I mean, if it throws away votes to some people, odds are that person wasn't going to vote for

01:02:38.020 Trump to begin with.

01:02:39.340 Yep, I agree.

01:02:40.800 Men20 says, I feel like I'm going crazy when I talk to normicons and they think everything 1.00

01:02:44.360 is fine.

01:02:45.020 The hour is later than you think.

01:02:46.580 We have maybe five years to do with immigration.

01:02:48.620 That's if I'm optimistic.

01:02:50.240 Yeah, I think that I think that a lot of I wouldn't say that this is something that normicons

01:02:56.080 in general maybe don't understand, because I think the base does understand this kind

01:03:00.060 of kind of deeply.

01:03:00.840 Maybe they don't understand the timeline, but they understand this is an incredibly urgent

01:03:04.780 issue.

01:03:05.360 That's the reason that Trump has the level of support among the base that he has.

01:03:09.020 So I understand, you know, a lot of people who probably conventionally listen to a lot of

01:03:13.260 talk radio and things maybe are parroting back certain.

01:03:16.980 Oh, well, it's not as big a deal.

01:03:18.600 But I don't think that's the case.

01:03:19.580 I think I think the base does understand this.

01:03:22.300 I think really the party structure, the kind of establishment is really the only ones that

01:03:28.960 don't act as if this is an existential crisis.

01:03:31.800 And they're a little frustrated that the base keeps forcing this issue onto them, especially

01:03:36.100 in kind of the the person of Donald Trump.

01:03:40.280 Yeah, I mean, even people on the left like Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

01:03:43.600 and even Dean Phillips are like, listen, this is unsustainable and we need to do something

01:03:47.380 about it.

01:03:47.880 I mean, everyone but the regime that doesn't have anyone really waspy at all in that cabinet

01:03:52.980 are more than happy to continue to facilitate what they are.

01:03:55.880 I mean, Mayorkas comes from the board of numerous, you know, immigrant rights groups that facilitate

01:04:01.380 immigration into America legal and illegal.

01:04:03.840 So, I mean, I think people know how how late it is.

01:04:07.480 Unfortunately, the average pundit doesn't like touching issues that make them sound like they

01:04:11.420 are extreme, even though addressing the blatantly obvious isn't extreme at all.

01:04:17.120 I mean, even Fetterman said that the border is a crisis, right? 0.94

01:04:19.960 And he has brain damage. 0.96

01:04:21.300 So maybe we just need more brain damaged politicians or maybe that's this. 0.96

01:04:27.200 That's the way America's democracy can survive. 0.72

01:04:29.200 Just, you know, more more Fetterman's.

01:04:31.480 The only way out is through.

01:04:33.180 The only way out is through.

01:04:34.300 All right.

01:04:34.680 Tiny Rick says, win or lose in 2024.

01:04:37.620 What do you guys think the Democratic primary looks and sounds like in 2028?

01:04:43.300 Jeez.

01:04:43.760 I don't even know, man.

01:04:45.660 I mean, what's what is the Democratic bench even look like at this point?

01:04:48.860 Gavin Newsom, right?

01:04:50.860 Governor Pritzker, I guess.

01:04:52.620 Anyone who may maybe Pete Buttigieg runs again, although I don't know how you convince black 1.00

01:04:58.280 voters to vote for a gay white male.

01:05:01.100 So I I don't know what the 2028 thing looks like for the Democratic primary. 0.98

01:05:05.500 I just know that regardless of who runs in the 2028 Democratic primary, they're all evil

01:05:10.420 and they hate me and they hate you. 0.51

01:05:13.100 So it's still going to be bad no matter who.

01:05:16.660 Absolutely.

01:05:17.820 Norwegian Cross says, do you think that there's a difference between America first and America

01:05:21.800 only?

01:05:23.300 Yeah, I have heard I've heard people.

01:05:26.580 How do I say this?

01:05:27.860 People with neocon leanings like to turn this phrase.

01:05:31.340 They say, oh, well, there's a difference between America first and America only.

01:05:35.380 You don't have to be an isolationist to put America first.

01:05:37.680 In fact, being an isolationist is not prioritizing America.

01:05:42.380 You have to protect your allies.

01:05:44.780 And that sounds a lot like we need to maintain our empire and we need to involve ourselves in

01:05:49.860 foreign conflicts whenever, you know, the military and industrial complex needs an infusion of

01:05:56.620 revenue.

01:05:57.240 I am very skeptical of this.

01:05:59.840 I agree.

01:06:00.640 You know, a prudentialist is going to be the first guy, I think, to tell you as kind of the

01:06:03.960 the the the international relations guy that you need to have a sphere of influence, that geopolitics is real and that you do have to have some level of military intervention or military interest in in foreign conflicts or foreign areas.

01:06:18.900 But but but I am I am worried about that phrasing because it does seem to pop up only when people

01:06:24.840 are trying to convince me that I need to go to war in the Middle East.

01:06:28.060 Yeah, I mean, this also the the isolationist thing has been a slur against Americans that

01:06:33.100 wanted a more realistic or were skeptical about our adventurism abroad.

01:06:37.340 We saw this most especially during the interwar years and our lead up to World War Two, where there was a lot of distaste in people's mouths for wanting to give money to the Soviets, you know, avowed communists that we had barely normalized relationships with just a few years prior.

01:06:52.980 So, yeah, that'll happen again.

01:06:54.780 I mean, the unfortunate reality, and this is why it's called a tragedy of great power politics, that America is a great power and, you know, maintaining hegemony and an empire is part and parcel.

01:07:04.260 And even leftists, even turned reactionaries like Bill Williams will tell you that, like, empire is a way of life for the United States.

01:07:11.920 And it has been since the beginning. The question becomes, like, how do you manage that?

01:07:15.860 Do you manage that in a way that benefits the American people or do you do it that manages to benefit everyone but America?

01:07:22.400 And unfortunately, the American regime has done everything to hurt America. 0.91

01:07:26.760 And that's the problem is that the neoconservatives will take advantage of that.

01:07:30.180 People on the left will take advantage of that.

01:07:31.740 And I get it, right? Like, some people are like, yeah, I work for Raytheon because morality doesn't pay the bills.

01:07:36.540 But, you know, I'm also against Raytheon to some extent because, yeah, morality doesn't have to pay the bills.

01:07:41.820 But it sure as hell doesn't mean I have to watch my country be turned into an economic zone for your benefit.

01:07:49.020 Balthazar for $5 says, I think a major lesson the right needs to learn is that we are both rural and urban, the trade workers and the university bros.

01:07:57.700 Yeah, so here's the thing, right?

01:08:00.680 There's a – as someone from the South, I'm constantly told that, no, we have to be in the more urban centers.

01:08:10.920 We have to fight for these areas.

01:08:13.180 And I hear that.

01:08:14.060 But I don't really see people who say that ever having a path forward or understanding a way forward that secures them a continuity of culture in those areas.

01:08:24.860 It seems like they almost exclusively exist to eventually meld their children into that way of life.

01:08:32.580 I don't understand how they plan to actually, like, revive a conservative kind of way of life in those environments.

01:08:42.280 I'm not against what you're saying.

01:08:44.440 I just think it's usually code for a lot of urbanites to tell me that actually they have the right to rule the rural folk.

01:08:56.000 And the rural folk need to sit down and shut up and let Shake Shack Americans reign supreme. 1.00

01:09:02.080 And I just – I'm not unsympathetic to the fact that the cities are important, but every time I hear this, it seems it comes from people who don't really have a plan going forward as to kind of how they're going to turn that two-family conservative beachhead in their kind of urban environment into something that actually builds a vision that is more right-wing.

01:09:28.040 Yeah, and I mean, the thing, too, about, like, the urban-rural divide is – as much as people like the debate about, like, Shake Shack nationalism or whatever, thanks, Mystery Grove, for that idea.

01:09:39.000 But it really does illustrate that it's not – the geographic divide matters, yes, because it talks about economic opportunity, education, trades, etc.

01:09:47.080 But also, it's like folding a map and punching a pen right through the paper.

01:09:50.780 The internet has destroyed a lot of the cultural differences between this.

01:09:54.940 And I've said this before, and I'll say it again.

01:09:56.680 I live in a place where people ride their horses to, like, the park or to school.

01:10:00.840 But as soon as they get off that horse and tie it to the Hitchin Post or whatever, it doesn't matter.

01:10:04.700 They're still going to sound like every other Zoomer that you see in, you know, a major urban area.

01:10:09.540 The culture has been radicalized because of the internet.

01:10:13.420 The economic opportunities are vastly different.

01:10:15.640 You do need both.

01:10:16.480 You need a coalition of both.

01:10:18.100 And a lot of places – this goes, especially if you're a Christian – a lot of places where people converted early were the cities.

01:10:24.960 The word pagan doesn't mean that there's some strange religion.

01:10:27.720 It goes back to the root word for not from the city, an outsider, a ruralite.

01:10:32.920 And that's an important thing to consider.

01:10:34.420 Like, yes, our cities are a place of culture and change.

01:10:36.660 This is why you have that conversation about dark elves, right? 0.66

01:10:40.320 Like, you know, Yarvin is basically saying, like, the coastal people have the cultural and financial capital to affect change.

01:10:46.080 Like, you can either sit back and let them do their job, which is what he wants, but people righteously, and especially for Southerners who have witnessed outsiders try to continue Reconstruction forever, the left likes to treat Reconstruction like it never happened, and it did happen, and it was a good thing, and we should do it more.

01:11:01.340 They're, like, the opposite of certain parts of the far right.

01:11:04.060 But it does illustrate that I want people who are good rulers, but I also want them to, you know, either have my values or to leave me alone.

01:11:13.960 And I know that they won't leave me alone, so they better have my values or have some lists of agreements where we can agree to work together on things.

01:11:22.380 And, unfortunately, we see this with the Republican Party, we see this in the dissident right, that there's oftentimes not a lot of agreement and just a lot of people flinging turds at each other across the hallway of the zoo.

01:11:34.160 And Cooper Weirdo says, when Hassan goes soft on Trump, then we know AA gets the win. Until then, The Rock will never be president.

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The Auron MacIntyre Show - January 16, 2024

Trump Crushes Iowa ｜ Guest： The Prudentialist ｜ 1⧸16⧸24

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