The Auron MacIntyre Show - Trump Messaging Disaster Puts MAGA on Shaky Ground ｜ Guest： The Good Ol Boyz

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00:00:30.000 Hey, everybody.

00:00:31.300 How's it going?

00:00:31.920 Thanks for joining me this afternoon.

00:00:33.480 I've got a great stream with some great guests that I think you're really going to enjoy.

00:00:37.480 If you've been paying any attention to the Trump administration and the wider conservative

00:00:41.700 movement this week, you can tell there's been a bit of a messaging problem.

00:00:45.900 After some important losses, though, ones that you ultimately could have predicted,

00:00:50.620 given where they took place, a lot of people were asking, where is the Trump administration

00:00:54.900 at?

00:00:55.500 How is the Republican Party doing?

00:00:57.280 Can it compete really in midterms?

00:01:00.020 Does it look like it's going to have enough momentum to get things done?

00:01:03.120 Obviously, we want to see the Trump administration succeed.

00:01:06.580 But the way that they've been speaking to their base in the wake of these losses has a lot of

00:01:10.860 people very worried.

00:01:12.060 We've heard from President Trump.

00:01:13.640 We've heard from people like Christine Noem.

00:01:16.100 And we've seen non-administration officials like Ben Shapiro out there really giving the

00:01:21.700 wrong message to young people, things that are going to ultimately drive a lot of these young

00:01:26.600 MAGA voters away.

00:01:28.420 And I think there needs to be a serious course correction inside the shop.

00:01:32.100 Joining me today to talk about this is two of our favorite returning guests, Bog and Mark,

00:01:37.560 the good old boys.

00:01:38.220 Thank you so much for coming on, guys.

00:01:40.080 Hey, we're good old boys.

00:01:41.880 Bog beef.

00:01:42.380 I'm Mark.

00:01:44.580 Thanks for having us on, Oren.

00:01:46.680 Of course, we're going to play a bunch of these clips.

00:01:49.520 There's a lot of, like I said, different statements that we need to parse to figure out what is

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00:02:58.520 All right, guys.

00:03:01.020 Well, let's start from the beginning.

00:03:02.900 I've already touched a little bit on Trump's being on this topic.

00:03:06.700 I did a short video on it yesterday, but I want to get your reaction to his statement

00:03:11.240 about bringing in, I believe it's Chinese college students in this clip.

00:03:16.260 I'm thrilled about this idea of hundreds of thousands of foreign students in the United

00:03:20.000 States.

00:03:20.680 We have about 350,000 Chinese.

00:03:23.420 One point during COVID you were going to, you know, push to, you know, get them out,

00:03:27.180 but that was pulled back.

00:03:29.040 You've said as many as 600,000 Chinese students could come to the United States.

00:03:32.780 Why, sir, is that a pro-MAGA position when so many American kids want to go to school

00:03:38.800 and there are places not for them, and these universities are getting rich off Chinese money?

00:03:43.980 Sure.

00:03:44.780 Never said about China, but we do have a lot of people coming in from China.

00:03:48.720 We always have China and other countries.

00:03:51.940 We also have a massive system of colleges and universities.

00:03:55.560 And if we were to cut that in half, which perhaps makes some people happy, you would have half

00:04:01.180 the colleges in the United States go out of business.

00:04:03.880 So what?

00:04:04.440 Well, I think that's a big deal.

00:04:05.860 Are they fans of the United States?

00:04:08.620 Yeah, but you would have, as you know, historically black colleges and universities would all be out

00:04:14.180 of business.

00:04:15.180 You would have a system of colleges and universities.

00:04:20.060 So we're dependent on China to keep our university system going?

00:04:22.920 But I think it's good to have, I actually think it's good.

00:04:25.960 So since you guys are, you know, the kings of patronage, right?

00:04:30.640 Like this is your hobby horse.

00:04:32.420 Can you explain for the people with the cheap seats why you might not want to use foreign

00:04:39.020 Chinese money to fund historically black colleges and keep them open?

00:04:44.880 How many Trump votes do you think there are at the average historically black college?

00:04:49.540 You know, this is really interesting because you just did.

00:04:51.820 You just released a video where you were talking to someone about Japan in the 19th century

00:04:56.740 and how the defining moment in their history and a big part of ours was Commodore Perry,

00:05:04.860 where we forcibly went in at gunpoint and said, you are now open for business to American

00:05:10.920 corporate companies, military.

00:05:14.240 We want calling bases.

00:05:15.320 You have to let us come in here.

00:05:17.000 We are demanding it.

00:05:18.100 So when that happens, if you think that that is some way beneficial to the party being invaded,

00:05:26.040 you are either being paid to lie about it or you're certifiably insane.

00:05:32.720 If the Chinese are able to just send in, is it like 300,000 students a year to come here

00:05:41.120 and be trained to become, look, the way college education works in America today, you're getting

00:05:49.940 certifications.

00:05:52.020 How much of an education you actually get is up for debate, but you are getting accredited.

00:05:56.580 You, you become a certifiable elite that you can get access to the best jobs, to public

00:06:03.940 offices, to everything.

00:06:05.240 So like when you bring in foreign people and train them up to replace your, your own as

00:06:10.180 the elite, what do you think will happen to your, to your country?

00:06:15.180 Right here, here we go again.

00:06:17.260 I mean, um, so, you know, with patrons, just really simple.

00:06:20.420 I mean, here's, here's a reflection of this that doesn't even get into the money.

00:06:23.340 So we're on what we're watching here.

00:06:26.220 We're watching Fox news.

00:06:27.420 We're watching, uh, Republican president.

00:06:30.640 We're watching Laura Ingram.

00:06:32.300 Laura Ingram's show is, is not presented to a general audience.

00:06:35.680 This, this is, I mean, uh, this, this, this is not CBS nightly news.

00:06:39.900 This is a right-wing network with a right-wing host and right-wing president.

00:06:45.120 And, uh, when we, like the, what the whole question this week is about messaging, messaging,

00:06:51.480 messaging is very simple.

00:06:53.320 We go take a class, a one-on-one class in college.

00:06:56.220 If you can get in one, because you're going to be competing with a billion Chinese people.

00:07:00.980 But, uh, what's the, the, the question number one is when you're crafting a message begins,

00:07:06.780 who is my audience?

00:07:08.640 Who is my audience?

00:07:10.720 How many, how many, uh, no, this isn't running in the lobby at, at, at, uh, the historically

00:07:17.620 black college.

00:07:18.460 This isn't, uh, and this goes for all these statements, this, this we've heard this week.

00:07:25.760 Uh, why, why, why is this message presented to me that this is not, this is obviously,

00:07:32.120 uh, uh, I am, I am in the, in this audience who, who this is for.

00:07:36.740 And I don't know what the, what this brain disease is.

00:07:40.380 I mean, this is, uh, this is crazy.

00:07:41.980 I know, by the way, I am a Trump loyalist and, uh, he's going to be in office for another

00:07:47.080 three years.

00:07:47.680 I'm not saying, so it doesn't matter regardless of like, he's not going anywhere.

00:07:53.180 Uh, that said, we're seeing something happen here.

00:07:57.440 There's this, obviously there's a tremendous desire.

00:08:00.100 There's a zillion, all these billionaires, all these tech guys, they want more than anything

00:08:05.080 to dump H1Bs here.

00:08:07.500 They, they, they're really, really into this, but I mean, by the way, like, like, well, you

00:08:12.080 know, we don't have that.

00:08:12.880 Well, you know, we don't have the skills there.

00:08:14.760 Okay.

00:08:15.060 I'm going to go to the school.

00:08:16.080 Now you can't go to school.

00:08:17.000 Cause you got to compete with a billion Chinese people.

00:08:19.220 And we, we need to train these people up cause we don't have the workers that can do the

00:08:24.240 job.

00:08:24.760 Oh, by the way, you can't go to school to learn how to do the job.

00:08:28.060 So yeah.

00:08:28.700 And all these, these major state schools are getting, I just looked up the closest college

00:08:34.680 to me gets $200 million of tax funds dumped at their doorstep, uh, a treasure chest of gold

00:08:42.340 or gold doubloons from, from, from my tax money, uh, to do this.

00:08:46.380 I mean, what this is, I don't know a whole lot about China because it's, they, the language

00:08:51.920 is so different.

00:08:52.720 It's hard for, for stuff to translate there.

00:08:55.020 I would love for people that, you know, if you're an expert, well, what I've heard from

00:08:58.460 a lot of people is that the big dream for lots and lots of Chinese grandparents is for

00:09:04.240 their grandchildren to get citizenship in the United States.

00:09:08.780 And the second that your feet touch the ground here, that is a much, much, much easier game,

00:09:14.860 uh, to play.

00:09:16.040 There's, there's so many ways to do that.

00:09:19.340 Yeah.

00:09:19.860 And, and, you know, I, when I talked about this in the piece, I laid out the fact that

00:09:24.040 we just had a bunch of Chinese students or researchers at a university arrested for smuggling

00:09:30.300 technology, right?

00:09:31.760 Like they were, they were smuggling information at technology and this is not uncommon.

00:09:35.680 There's just three of them caught literally in the last few weeks, but this happens all

00:09:39.800 the time.

00:09:40.180 And we also, uh, just discovered that a Chinese couple that's been buying up real estate,

00:09:44.380 including, including an RV park, uh, bought it up next to an air force base that contains

00:09:49.160 all of the B2 bombers for the United States military.

00:09:53.320 So like we're told over and over again, that these people are an existential threat.

00:09:57.580 This is our greatest geopolitical rival.

00:09:59.180 We have to defeat China.

00:10:00.800 China is going to be the future.

00:10:01.940 If we don't keep up with China.

00:10:03.060 In fact, we're often told we have to import a bunch of H1Bs so we can keep up with China,

00:10:07.220 but we're also importing the Chinese elite class.

00:10:10.020 As you say, to one replace our own elite class, because that's how that gets done.

00:10:15.160 And that's, that's, we credential, as you said, uh, you know, people through universities,

00:10:19.280 as Mark said, but we also, of course, are bringing a bunch of people in here who are

00:10:23.660 spies and also push out American students.

00:10:27.120 Oh, and by the way, the main reason we're talking about doing all of this is because

00:10:31.880 it props up a university system specifically designed to hate us and to teach Americans

00:10:37.400 to hate themselves and teach foreigners to hate Americans.

00:10:40.720 Uh, so it's just an incredible loss on, on every level.

00:10:43.560 Now, I think this would be my guess.

00:10:47.700 And, and first I should say, as you pointed out, uh, bog beef, uh, Trump is going to be

00:10:53.820 in office for three or more years.

00:10:55.620 He is the leader of MAGA, whatever issues you might have with any given, uh, uh, messaging

00:11:02.720 problem.

00:11:03.260 He has been better than literally every Republican president in our lifetime.

00:11:08.020 So this is not the, I'm jumping off the Trump train.

00:11:11.460 I'm done with Trump.

00:11:12.480 But I, that's not what's happening here.

00:11:14.840 Uh, even if you disagree with what Trump is doing, uh, at the moment, he's been better

00:11:19.200 than any president in your lifetime.

00:11:20.740 He ended more or less, uh, border crossings almost immediately upon taking office, which

00:11:26.540 is by itself, uh, something that could save the country in a way, uh, that is critical.

00:11:31.200 So this is not just the, uh, Trump is terrible and weird and that, that's not what we're doing

00:11:35.440 here.

00:11:35.740 But as we have learned, the administration is very responsive to people pushing back.

00:11:41.980 So we're here, we're here to push back on, on the stuff that's bad and praise the thing

00:11:45.880 that good.

00:11:46.280 Cause we will praise one of the very good things that the Trump administration did this week

00:11:50.440 later on.

00:11:51.080 However, uh, this messaging is an absolute disaster.

00:11:54.520 And my guess, just looking, knowing Trump, knowing the way that Trump acts and thinks,

00:11:58.700 my guess is he just looks at this as assets on the book, right?

00:12:03.880 Like he's a business guy.

00:12:05.240 These are locations.

00:12:06.440 It's better to make money and keep locations open than it is to have them close, right?

00:12:11.920 He's not thinking about the, the power relationship.

00:12:14.560 He's not thinking about the flow of patronage.

00:12:17.200 He's just thinking, if I cut off, uh, you know, the, this flow of students, then some

00:12:23.020 of the things that my country is famous for will shut down.

00:12:26.120 And that would be bad.

00:12:27.220 And people wouldn't like that about me.

00:12:29.100 That would be my guess as to how he got here in the logic.

00:12:33.320 But obviously, ultimately, this is just a bad statement overall.

00:12:36.900 Well, I, I have a theory about, well, it's not just my theory.

00:12:40.660 Actually, somebody in the super chat just beat me to it.

00:12:43.120 So I guess we'll wait till we read that off to discuss it.

00:12:45.500 But I will add, it does seem if you go by what happened in 2020 and what happens a lot

00:12:54.780 when Trump's taken some hits politically and in the media is that I think that he kind

00:13:00.280 of his default, uh, defensive position is to try to appeal to people who hate him.

00:13:06.880 Like, why, why are you bringing up HBCUs?

00:13:10.740 Why do you have, uh, the secretary of Homeland security going on TV, brag, uh, bragging about

00:13:17.380 how much money that she's giving to TSA?

00:13:19.780 Oh, don't worry.

00:13:20.400 We'll get to that.

00:13:21.020 Yeah.

00:13:21.340 Okay.

00:13:21.740 Good.

00:13:21.920 Yeah.

00:13:22.060 It's like you're, that you're appealing to people who, who hate you and hate your supporters

00:13:26.180 and you love giving them money.

00:13:28.600 That's, uh, unfortunately for somebody, his age, that's just a very, like the, the, the

00:13:33.700 neutral state that they go into.

00:13:35.940 Well, and these are the groups that you're allowed to give money to, right?

00:13:38.520 So that they're just going, they're just moving along the greased skits.

00:13:43.020 You know, the tracks already laid out for them.

00:13:44.880 This is the path of least resistance.

00:13:46.300 Um, the idea of giving patronage to people who would vote right wing is in many ways illegal

00:13:52.800 in the United States.

00:13:54.640 Um, so, so there's that problem as well, but there is also just this like boomer mindset

00:13:59.120 that you're absolutely right.

00:14:00.120 That like, well, if I defend a historically black college, then it'll be clear that I

00:14:03.540 like black people.

00:14:04.220 And if I like black people, I can't be a bad person.

00:14:06.100 Right?

00:14:06.700 Like that, that, that kind of, uh, instinct is still there, but I want to play the next,

00:14:11.760 uh, clip from this interview.

00:14:13.500 That was also, uh, a disaster about the H1Bs we've been talking about here.

00:14:17.880 A priority for your administration is if you want to raise wages for American workers,

00:14:22.380 you can't flood the country with, with tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of

00:14:26.500 foreign workers.

00:14:26.860 Well, I agree, but you also do have to bring in talent when a country.

00:14:30.020 Well, we have plenty of talented people here.

00:14:31.000 No, you don't.

00:14:31.500 No, you don't.

00:14:31.960 We don't have talented people here.

00:14:33.380 No, you don't have, you don't have certain talents and you have to, people have to learn.

00:14:37.260 You can't take people off an unemployment, like an unemployment line and say, I'm going

00:14:42.020 to put you into a factory or we're going to make missiles or I'm going to put you into.

00:14:44.820 How did we ever do it before?

00:14:46.300 Well, let me just, I'll give you an example.

00:14:48.080 In Georgia, they raided because they wanted illegal immigrants, uh, they had people from,

00:14:55.360 from South Korea that made batteries all their lives, you know, making batteries are

00:14:59.520 very complicated.

00:15:00.520 It's not an easy thing and very dangerous.

00:15:02.380 A lot of explosions, a lot of problems.

00:15:05.020 They had like five or 600 people early stages to make batteries and to teach people how to

00:15:11.140 do it.

00:15:12.140 Well, they wanted them to get out of the country.

00:15:14.120 You're going to need that Laura.

00:15:15.080 I mean, I know you and I, so this is bad on so many levels.

00:15:19.100 I can't even begin.

00:15:20.460 So first we can't train people to make things in the U S we're just too dumb.

00:15:25.880 Like, of course we have to bring in H1B workers because they just have this amazing knowledge

00:15:31.720 that no one else has.

00:15:33.700 Uh, of course, you know, I guess we can't use field manuals.

00:15:37.980 Like we're incapable of reading instructions.

00:15:40.480 We can't give them the same training that they get in Korea through video.

00:15:43.680 Like we know that like zoom and Skype are a thing, right?

00:15:47.360 Like people can just explain to you.

00:15:49.820 They can walk you through what's happening here.

00:15:52.800 So like the idea that it's just, it's just impossible.

00:15:56.240 Like the, the country that got to the moon cannot possibly make a battery with the people

00:16:02.320 in the country.

00:16:03.060 We have to import them.

00:16:04.100 Also on top of that, his explanation, like the example he gives first, he says, uh, they

00:16:11.600 went, they went and, and got rid of these people in, in the hind eye plant.

00:16:16.640 That's your administration.

00:16:18.260 That's you.

00:16:19.220 You did that.

00:16:20.400 Like that's, that's your guys.

00:16:22.480 Like that, that's not some people.

00:16:24.860 That's not like the previous Biden administration.

00:16:26.700 It's you also, also on top of that, these people had been overstaying their visas for five years

00:16:34.540 or more.

00:16:35.400 So it's not like they just came in and, you know, we're hanging around for a few years

00:16:40.680 to, to train people and left.

00:16:42.240 No, they, they were in the country under the auspices that they would be, you know, teaching

00:16:47.000 people how to do exactly what Trump is saying that they're doing.

00:16:49.420 And then they just kept them on because it was easier to keep the people who were training

00:16:54.240 as employees and just not hire Americans than it was to bring in Americans.

00:16:59.780 So the very people who were training Americans to do the jobs they couldn't do otherwise were

00:17:05.360 just taking those jobs.

00:17:06.580 Like they weren't giving them to Americans because all of these people's were, people

00:17:10.100 were overstaying their visa.

00:17:11.200 So he's complaining about his own administration's raid on illegal aliens who were overstaying the

00:17:16.800 visas that they were obviously no longer doing their job of training people five years plus

00:17:21.380 after they arrived.

00:17:23.600 Like every level of this is just absolutely nuts.

00:17:27.120 I really don't know what he was thinking here.

00:17:29.360 I just want to say, first off, it is in terms of like, Hey, this is not like a, Hey, I'm

00:17:35.900 off the bandwagon.

00:17:37.240 I'm dead.

00:17:37.940 I'm far away.

00:17:38.920 You know, Maga's over right wing is dead.

00:17:42.320 No, no.

00:17:43.120 This is my pleasure to, to yell about this topic.

00:17:46.800 I am the, I am the happiest warrior alive.

00:17:50.620 There's nothing better than getting into the blood and guts of this issue because you, every

00:17:56.420 step you take, you step into a new gigantic dog turd.

00:18:01.080 Every, every person, every one of these, a business guys that shows up to, to finger wag

00:18:07.800 you, you, you do one Google search away and every nickel they ever made what was, was somehow

00:18:13.480 getting from the federal government.

00:18:16.160 This example of which, which I, you know, this, this isn't something that Trump found

00:18:22.020 at 11, you know, at 2 AM Googling around that one of his advisors is, is going to, he's

00:18:28.700 going to find out this person is not giving him great information.

00:18:31.600 Uh, this, any, this is, I would, any time you can talk about this topic, it's a win for

00:18:38.700 us.

00:18:38.900 So with this Korean plant, uh, how did this Korean plant get rated?

00:18:43.020 Um, there were three on the three different Koreans got fell into the, the, the, the iron

00:18:50.300 press and got squashed on the third one.

00:18:53.180 OSHA had to show up and OSHA could not miss that these, the, the OSHA somehow said, Hey,

00:19:00.700 we might want to let La Migra know here.

00:19:03.340 Uh, all these people are here on tourist, on tourist visas and they're getting paid $5 an

00:19:09.320 hour.

00:19:09.980 Uh, and so that all this was automatically spawned in.

00:19:13.180 This didn't actually, uh, because of, uh, like, okay, we have to go there.

00:19:17.060 There's been three different people squashed and died at this, this battery plant.

00:19:20.940 We have to go there.

00:19:22.160 And then the, the, the inspector said, okay, I guess I should call a La Migra.

00:19:25.900 I can't say I didn't see this.

00:19:27.480 So, uh, let's talk about it.

00:19:31.320 Let's talk about it.

00:19:32.240 This is, this is absurd.

00:19:34.180 This is absurd.

00:19:34.840 People have been hunting and finding the, the, the ideal H1B candidate and they don't exist.

00:19:40.780 They're not out there.

00:19:42.140 This is just a nonstop winning when we talk about this issue.

00:19:45.320 Cause this issue sucks.

00:19:47.220 People are tired of it, man.

00:19:48.600 Look, I'm, uh, I don't like saying this, but he's, he's either misinformed or he's lying

00:19:56.520 during his interview because I read about what actually happened there.

00:20:00.120 Like the, like half of the people were working at the plant where the, the people he's talking

00:20:06.160 about, and they weren't there to train people they were doing, they were doing the work.

00:20:09.620 And, and that is obvious because you wouldn't be paying super high skilled, uh, technicians

00:20:15.720 who have to teach dumb Americans how to make a battery like, uh, the same, the, the price

00:20:21.140 that you made at McDonald's like 10 years ago, that just wouldn't happen.

00:20:24.520 So I don't know if he didn't know what was going on or if he's just blowing smoke up her

00:20:29.620 ass, but yeah, that's not what happened.

00:20:31.140 They, and I think the genesis of this is probably, uh, he's having diplomatic talks with, with

00:20:38.320 Korea and they're not happy that they, that we raided their plant and kicked out some of

00:20:45.380 their foreign workers.

00:20:46.280 And yeah, this is, uh, pawns on the chessboard.

00:20:50.060 It's like, yeah, well, we had to do this because Americans are just too stupid to do this work

00:20:53.980 themselves, uh, which I, I, I don't think Trump nine years ago would have said something

00:21:00.480 like this.

00:21:01.140 Uh, I think this is like, he's lost a step in his, in his PR, you know what I mean?

00:21:06.120 Like we know he wouldn't have said this because we have the video.

00:21:09.420 I should have pulled that video clip too, but I didn't, but we have the video clip where

00:21:12.920 he was originally running and he said, yeah, H1B is cancer for American workers.

00:21:17.800 I use them because I'm in this, you know, hotel business and we can't, we have to compete

00:21:22.740 with everyone else who's also using illegal labor, but it should just be banned.

00:21:26.100 I shouldn't be able to do it.

00:21:27.060 You shouldn't be able to do it because H1B isn't being used for, uh, you know, training,

00:21:31.660 uh, really complicated positions.

00:21:33.420 It's being used to sub in cheap factory work, cheap, uh, you know, uh, maids and hairdressers

00:21:39.220 and nannies and lawn care guys.

00:21:41.400 This is, this is, we're not being bringing in the best and bright.

00:21:43.840 It's not like we're going to miss out on Einstein or Von Braun.

00:21:46.960 If we don't have H1Bs, like we're just bringing in cheap work to fill this.

00:21:52.140 Those were his words.

00:21:53.280 Like he was excoriating the H1B program in exactly the way that you're talking about.

00:21:59.460 And now not only do we have to have it, his example is the worst possible example.

00:22:04.320 There had to be a thousand, there had to be a thousand situations where some guy was

00:22:10.160 brought in to train someone legitimate, right?

00:22:12.480 Like I'm sure the vast majority of HBs are not, but there had to be at least several different

00:22:16.900 ones.

00:22:17.720 He could have cited there of like legitimate guys, they're training someone.

00:22:21.040 And the only example he could come up with, as you pointed out was the one that was the

00:22:25.280 most disastrous.

00:22:26.140 That was the most discrediting, which is like the most abusive.

00:22:29.420 And he held up as this is like the reason we need to keep H1Bs around.

00:22:34.540 Uh, and especially when Ingram is just like, well, we have talented people here.

00:22:38.200 No, you don't.

00:22:38.820 I mean, what are we doing here, man?

00:22:40.900 Like, what, what are we doing here?

00:22:42.500 Like, they just, just a disastrous message all around, but it's not just Trump.

00:22:47.060 Uh, uh, you know, they sent out, uh, other representatives to kind of back up what he

00:22:51.200 was saying here.

00:22:51.900 So here is, uh, Scott Bissett, uh, you know, trying, trying to explain what Trump really

00:22:56.280 meant here.

00:22:56.780 Years.

00:22:57.300 We have offshore precision manufacturing jobs.

00:23:00.220 And the president's point here is we, again, we can't snap our fingers and say, you're going

00:23:05.340 to learn how to build ships overnight.

00:23:06.940 We want to bring semiconductor industry back to the U S there are going to be big facilities

00:23:13.060 in Arizona.

00:23:14.440 So I think the president's vision here is to bring in overseas workers where these jobs

00:23:21.220 went, who have skills, who have the skills, three, five, seven years to train the U S workers.

00:23:27.280 Then they can go home.

00:23:29.620 Seven years, seven years.

00:23:32.460 They're going to train for seven years.

00:23:35.060 The majority of a decade, and then they're just going to go home.

00:23:38.820 Uh, Bog, you had a great tweet about this.

00:23:40.860 Can, can, can you spout off a bit about how guys who've been here for seven years are definitely

00:23:45.500 going home after the end of that visa?

00:23:48.320 America has sanctuary cities, birthright citizenship, chain migration, a zillion ways to stay.

00:23:55.340 Once you are here, we do not have the legal capacity for temporary workers.

00:24:00.340 Like we just don't have that.

00:24:01.900 That's not a thing.

00:24:02.980 Uh, and any particulars, if you want, if you were like, well, maybe we could do it.

00:24:08.300 If you, if you pay attention to this, you can't do that because the civil rights act happens

00:24:13.500 to include national origin.

00:24:15.180 And if you, and the, the, the primary thing that if you want to find people in suits and

00:24:20.500 broad daylight, people in office that said, what, what was like, what was the smoking gun?

00:24:25.240 Why it was okay for us to kill Charlie Kirk.

00:24:27.740 It was because he had questions about disparate impact, AKA the civil, the civil rights act,

00:24:33.680 whatever you think about that.

00:24:35.620 You cannot, you will, you, if you have a professional class job, you cannot question the trip, the civil

00:24:41.740 rights act.

00:24:42.260 This is part of it.

00:24:43.140 And like, should it be that way?

00:24:44.620 No, it shouldn't.

00:24:45.660 Should we be able to have temporary workers?

00:24:47.620 Uh, I don't know.

00:24:48.460 Maybe like obviously middle, uh, middle Eastern country in the middle East that they can do

00:24:53.440 that.

00:24:53.780 We can't, we can, you cannot have, well, in the Middle East, you can also like lock, you

00:24:58.760 can like pour cement on them when they're done.

00:25:01.940 So yeah.

00:25:03.280 Or the Korean or obviously the Koreans are paying these workers $5 an hour.

00:25:07.640 The going rate for Mexicans outside, uh, uh, a home Depot is 15.

00:25:12.520 I mean, that's crazy.

00:25:13.900 You're talking about.

00:25:15.600 Yeah.

00:25:16.860 So, uh, we looking at this interview with Scott percent, where he tries to do the janitorial

00:25:22.920 work, uh, just, we should take this step back and, and congratulate Laura Ingraham on doing

00:25:29.140 actual, Hey man, I hate to use the J word, but she's doing, she's doing insult her, but

00:25:35.600 yeah, she's doing her job.

00:25:37.200 She like, she, she puts his feet to the fire and she comes off as being more maga than the

00:25:43.440 president does in that clip.

00:25:44.580 And that is what you're supposed to do.

00:25:46.800 If she, if she lobbed him a softball interview, we're not talking about this.

00:25:51.520 People aren't chimping out.

00:25:52.940 It, it just falls into the, into the cracks of stuff that no one pays attention to.

00:25:58.340 So, you know, uh, I never say anything nice about people on Fox, but Hey, good job because

00:26:04.700 you can look at the, this, I can't think of a non, a non disgusting analogy for this conversation

00:26:12.140 that Bessent is having with, uh, with this other gentleman.

00:26:14.720 But when you put the two side by side, you can see who's actually doing their job.

00:26:18.980 Yeah.

00:26:19.480 I would say Ingraham is surprisingly good on a lot of this stuff.

00:26:22.620 You know, of course we're right ultimately to, uh, to question Fox, but you also go look

00:26:28.400 at, um, uh, what's his name?

00:26:30.960 Will, um, I remember his last name.

00:26:35.340 Uh, it'll come to me in a second.

00:26:37.360 Uh, but he, but, uh, he's another guy on Fox who's been going on and on about, uh, about,

00:26:42.760 uh, H one B's and he correctly, uh, pointed out, uh, Will Kane.

00:26:47.660 Thank you guys.

00:26:48.200 Will Kane, uh, Will Kane correctly pointed out that 70% of H one B's are coming from India,

00:26:53.820 right?

00:26:54.720 Like 70%.

00:26:56.520 So it's very clear that unless India has all of the most intelligent people in the world

00:27:04.020 and having seen India and how it's going, I can guess that maybe that's not true, but

00:27:11.220 unless that's the case, obviously it's just an, a reason for ethnic nepotism to funnel people

00:27:17.760 into the United States, which is crazy because I'm sure you guys probably saw this, but you

00:27:24.500 know, Dinesh D'Souza has been just, just blowing up.

00:27:29.560 Right.

00:27:29.740 Like we thought Vivek went off the rails and I've been on Dinesh's show several times.

00:27:36.200 Like we've been friendly, but like he, he has just like this week he was talking about

00:27:42.620 how the H one B Indians are going to dominate whitey and the future is the H one B Indians.

00:27:48.500 And they're the ones who are outperforming and they're, they're going to teach whitey

00:27:52.260 how to be, you know, really good.

00:27:53.920 Like the language.

00:27:55.180 And that just, just has been insane.

00:27:58.020 Like just absolutely insane.

00:28:00.080 Like it just, we've had, we've heard about MLK colorblind conservatism nonstop.

00:28:06.000 Right.

00:28:06.260 Like this is a guy who wrote the end of racism.

00:28:08.180 And then, you know, 10 seconds in it's like, well, take that whitey.

00:28:13.560 The H one B Indians are going to win you over.

00:28:15.340 Like, all right, man, I wanted to believe in assimilation, but holy crap.

00:28:19.400 Like, what are we doing here?

00:28:20.820 I guess, I mean, his excuse was that wasn't what he meant.

00:28:23.960 And I, I guess that's possible because it, it doesn't make any sense for him to behave

00:28:29.320 that way.

00:28:29.840 His wife is a white lady.

00:28:31.720 His, his kids married to a white person.

00:28:34.080 Like his grandkids are going to, are going to look at Italian.

00:28:37.120 Right.

00:28:37.500 It's like, it would be weird for him to behave this way.

00:28:40.140 However, as we've learned, if we learned anything from 21st century American politics, it doesn't

00:28:45.620 matter if it's like suicidal for you genetically to, to have these kinds of beliefs.

00:28:50.700 Some people would just, just have them.

00:28:52.300 It just, they just, that's what they do.

00:28:55.320 Uh, you know, he's so irrelevant.

00:28:58.180 He's not even a, um, like, uh, the, the, the, the assimilation started like 800 years

00:29:05.580 ago.

00:29:05.820 He's a, he's a go, uh, Catholic, like Vasco da Gama started the, the assimilation process.

00:29:12.320 Still hasn't taken hold yet.

00:29:13.920 Still working on it.

00:29:15.100 But, um, I mean, he's a bum.

00:29:16.760 He's a senior citizen.

00:29:17.880 Why don't you just enjoy your retirement?

00:29:19.580 What are you doing?

00:29:20.860 Go home and be a family man.

00:29:22.460 He's a bum.

00:29:23.740 I mean, like, look, man, you, you, I, we just see this from all these commentators.

00:29:28.940 They're, they're all so old.

00:29:31.140 They're so out of touch.

00:29:32.300 And, uh, I mean, I don't plan to be doing this when I'm 65.

00:29:36.860 Uh, I'm going to, I'm going to be in Florida on the golf course.

00:29:39.480 I mean, you, you, I don't, I don't, I don't know what, what these guys are.

00:29:42.500 The problem is I'm already in Florida on the golf course.

00:29:44.320 So what do I do?

00:29:44.940 I, I, I moved to back to my house and keep all of my current hobbies.

00:29:50.040 I'm more of a shotgun man than a golf.

00:29:52.000 How dare you bog beef.

00:29:53.620 This is why the Chinese are killing us.

00:29:55.700 You just entitled millennial attitude.

00:29:57.980 You're going to retire from podcasting at 59.

00:30:02.160 Have you, have you tried shotgun golf?

00:30:05.000 I cannot say that I have.

00:30:06.560 No.

00:30:06.640 Oh, it's so, it's so much fun at the end, at the end of my tweet.

00:30:09.720 I mean, like, like the, like when they, the clay is coming from the different, uh, scenes

00:30:14.660 and stuff like that.

00:30:15.420 Yeah.

00:30:16.080 Yeah.

00:30:16.400 Yeah.

00:30:16.520 Yeah.

00:30:16.760 You get a little golf court, you go to the different holes and stuff.

00:30:19.660 Sure.

00:30:20.080 Sure.

00:30:20.280 Okay.

00:30:20.500 Yes.

00:30:20.860 Yeah.

00:30:21.240 Yeah.

00:30:21.680 But, uh, so the end of my tweet, I put, well, you know, if, if they have, obviously

00:30:25.180 all this is coming from India, we could, we could have a program.

00:30:29.080 We could fly out Americans to India and we could learn how to operate CNC machines and

00:30:33.800 weld, uh, you know, for the shipyards and these things.

00:30:36.640 And I, you know, I, I, I didn't, I didn't say I was joking.

00:30:39.560 Obviously the million people replied to like, uh, this, this country barely doesn't

00:30:43.500 have sanitation.

00:30:44.740 They don't have, this is, they don't have any people know how to run a fucking CNC machine.

00:30:49.000 Of course.

00:30:49.620 I know that, uh, it's a joke.

00:30:51.920 This is absurd.

00:30:53.220 Uh, this is, we, we have to, we have to put our foot down.

00:30:58.520 We have to say, we don't want this.

00:31:00.040 We don't want this.

00:31:00.760 We're tired of this.

00:31:01.580 We've had, we've had an entire generation of men who were pushed, pushed out of the

00:31:05.500 workforce, uh, with this bullshit.

00:31:07.780 Uh, you know, being a welder is, is hard work.

00:31:10.160 It's skilled work, uh, on Trump's desk.

00:31:13.000 I don't know if it's still there, but he had this beautiful, beautiful 1911 pistol.

00:31:19.500 It was made for him by, by Jesse James, the, from, um, what was his motorcycle company?

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00:31:41.400 I don't know.

00:31:42.180 No idea.

00:31:43.220 He used to have a TV show.

00:31:45.380 He's a popular guy.

00:31:46.940 Uh, he, he, he made custom motorcycles and now, now he's got into making guns at the gun

00:31:52.800 he made for Donald Trump.

00:31:54.160 It's absolutely gorgeous, but, uh, he isn't, he has no other training other than he went

00:31:59.260 to a technical high school, it, it, it, it, it, it, one of these technical schools and

00:32:04.020 learned to weld and his entire career has been welding and he's, he's an artist.

00:32:09.560 He's, and we have plenty of this.

00:32:12.460 If you go in the South, I mean, that's what I tried to do.

00:32:14.700 I tried to get on a rig, rig, rig welding.

00:32:16.960 Cause that's the only place they'll pay you because you know why you have to be an American

00:32:19.720 citizen to get on a rig.

00:32:20.920 You gotta have, you gotta have your Twink card and all that stuff.

00:32:23.620 Cause that's the only paywall we have.

00:32:25.580 We have no union where all we have is any kind of, when people say, oh, all these conservatives

00:32:31.040 will tell you to become a plumber or do this.

00:32:33.120 Why?

00:32:33.480 Well, because you have to be a citizen, be a plumber.

00:32:35.420 Why is the only place to, why is the only place to make money welding on an old rig?

00:32:39.240 Well, cause you have to be a citizen step on an old rig.

00:32:41.440 This is all we got, man.

00:32:43.160 It's all we got.

00:32:44.480 Used to be the case with trucking, right?

00:32:46.200 And now we're seeing obviously the, the impact of changing that, but yeah, a bug.

00:32:51.060 I remember like I went to the kind of high school where people showed up with,

00:32:55.580 rangers and F one fifties and old firebirds.

00:32:59.320 And you know, the, the school had a robust work skills program.

00:33:03.820 I went because it got us out of school and they fed us lunch and we learned to

00:33:10.080 well, and we learned about CNC milling machines.

00:33:14.080 Like this is when I was in high school.

00:33:15.660 Like obviously I didn't pursue it as a career, but like that was available at that

00:33:19.020 time.

00:33:19.500 It's not like we don't have the, you know, the training architecture.

00:33:22.940 It existed when I was in high school.

00:33:25.580 This is not, not some lost art from, from thousands of years ago.

00:33:29.840 We can never replicate the Amish use CNC machines today.

00:33:34.140 The Amish they're not even the cars yet.

00:33:37.040 And they, they, they run CNC machines.

00:33:39.280 I mean, this, this is ludicrous.

00:33:40.960 This is in the two examples where he's talking about is the factory work, the basic programming

00:33:46.040 CNC machines and, and, and shipyards welding, the white guys put you, put you guys in office.

00:33:54.280 This is our thing.

00:33:55.660 That's what, that's all we were, that this is like half of what we're good for, man.

00:33:59.200 And the other thing is driving trucks.

00:34:00.960 And I don't know, man, what's the game plan here?

00:34:04.780 Well, speaking of, uh, you know, stepping all over yourself and not, not being in line

00:34:10.800 with the base, uh, you know, we've got other, uh, functionaries.

00:34:14.240 Here's Kristi Noem and what she said on Fox.

00:34:18.460 Now we're going to keep using our visa programs.

00:34:20.940 We're just going to make sure that they have integrity, that we're actually doing the vetting

00:34:24.600 of the individuals who come into this country, that they want to be here for the right reasons,

00:34:28.480 that they're not supporters of terrorists and organizations that hate America.

00:34:32.580 Uh, and that's what I think is so we, we all just mean anti-Israel people, right?

00:34:38.140 Like we all understand what she's saying here.

00:34:39.820 We're not, we're not going to stop using the visa.

00:34:42.120 We're just going to make sure that people who, you know, hate Israel can't come into

00:34:45.960 the country.

00:34:46.280 Yeah, we're going to run it by IPAC first.

00:34:48.140 Yeah.

00:34:49.360 Make sure APAC gets to check all of the, all of the entries.

00:34:52.840 Remarkable is under the Trump administration, we've sped up our process and added integrity

00:34:57.080 to the visa programs, to green cards, to all of that.

00:35:00.420 But also more people are becoming naturalized under this administration than ever before.

00:35:05.420 More people are becoming citizens because we're not just streamlined.

00:35:10.360 So don't worry guys.

00:35:11.760 It's fine.

00:35:12.540 We fixed the problem.

00:35:13.560 We're just going to make all the illegal immigrants legal.

00:35:17.200 Ta-da!

00:35:18.140 Is there a name for that?

00:35:19.420 Is there a name for that where you just make all the illegal immigrants legal and then that

00:35:22.760 solves the problem?

00:35:23.520 I feel like I've heard that before somewhere.

00:35:25.180 Um, but yeah, just, just amazing.

00:35:28.220 Just completely tone deaf.

00:35:30.080 Don't, don't worry.

00:35:31.060 Don't worry.

00:35:31.960 Yes.

00:35:32.220 We're going to keep bringing people in on these visas.

00:35:34.320 They're going to keep taking your job, but we're going to get them green cards.

00:35:37.920 They're going to get naturalized.

00:35:39.100 Have no fear.

00:35:39.920 It's going to be fine.

00:35:40.620 I'm drawn to the, the little, the Chiron with the little Rob Schneider coming up next thing.

00:35:46.800 I want, I want Deuce Bigelow to weigh in on this.

00:35:49.780 What does he think about amnesty and mass immigration?

00:35:52.280 Honestly, he's probably way more based than the administration.

00:35:54.800 Deuce has, uh, has shared my tweets multiple times.

00:35:57.960 Uh, yeah.

00:35:58.600 Yeah.

00:35:59.040 Yeah.

00:35:59.320 Yeah.

00:35:59.560 So there's this boomer delusion where they say, well, well, well, sure.

00:36:06.400 We're going to bring them in, but we're going to make them sign a paper and a pledge and

00:36:11.300 to, uh, uh, uh, sign in blood, a piece of paper that says they love George Washington

00:36:16.560 and the constitution and capitalism and that they'll, they'll, uh, and all this bullshit.

00:36:23.460 Uh, and this means nothing.

00:36:27.160 These people, they have, they have attorneys, they have people over there in the, in, in

00:36:32.660 far away over in their home country that say here, here, paper, paper, you say what's

00:36:37.600 on paper.

00:36:38.280 When you get off the boat, you, you say what's on the paper.

00:36:41.800 Okay.

00:36:42.320 You say this, tell the guy this, uh, it's just another thing.

00:36:46.520 It's just a, a, a stupid password.

00:36:48.980 And these look, man, the, the, the password gets out people, the word gets out.

00:36:53.800 I don't get out with us.

00:36:55.100 Cause I don't know.

00:36:56.180 We're just not good at this.

00:36:57.340 It's like, no one told me to, I could get a free hell cat with the PPP loans, but let

00:37:01.720 me tell you, the word does get out.

00:37:03.880 It gets out.

00:37:05.220 And these people use these stupid passwords and stuff.

00:37:08.440 This is a delusion.

00:37:09.540 And by the way, Oh, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, uh, uh, extremist Muslim.

00:37:14.920 Oh, what am I going to say?

00:37:15.960 Well, no, I'm not, I'm not going to, I'm not going to say that the, the, that I love

00:37:19.780 Israel.

00:37:20.100 I'm an extremist Muslim.

00:37:21.580 Send my ass back to Saudi Arabia.

00:37:23.940 Who are we kidding?

00:37:24.860 This is absurd.

00:37:28.880 Yeah.

00:37:29.420 And of course she also goes on, uh, I don't have a clip, but you guys mentioned it already.

00:37:33.180 She also was on Fox news bragging about handing out $10,000 bonus checks to TSA workers because

00:37:39.500 these are the ones that didn't call in sick during, uh, during the government shutdown.

00:37:43.700 Uh, of course, you know, all of us, if you've ever been in an airport and you have two eyes

00:37:48.500 in your head can recognize the TSA is nothing but a jobs program for the democratic party.

00:37:54.020 Like every single demographically, you, you might catch three people who don't vote Democrat

00:38:00.260 in any given TSA squad.

00:38:02.120 And that's probably stretching it.

00:38:03.320 Uh, so it's very clear that, uh, you know, we're, we're not just, um, completely tone

00:38:09.220 deaf on the immigration issue.

00:38:11.000 Again, when it comes to patronage, we're, we're boasting about handing money to our enemies.

00:38:16.500 Uh, well, well, we could have used this situation to scale down the TSA.

00:38:20.400 You know, I'm old enough to remember when the TSA didn't exist.

00:38:24.160 It wasn't that long ago.

00:38:25.380 It was, it was a little over 20 years ago and it just didn't exist.

00:38:28.640 And now not only are the Republicans not interested in getting rid of it, they're very proud about

00:38:33.320 funding it.

00:38:33.900 They boast about giving money to this jobs program for democratic voters.

00:38:38.180 So not only were you not using the government shutdown as a opportunity to shrink the size

00:38:43.140 of government, we're actively bribing the people who vote Democrat because they stayed

00:38:48.960 on as part of the program.

00:38:50.640 We should have been shutting down in the first place.

00:38:52.860 Yeah.

00:38:52.960 There were what?

00:38:53.620 4,000 government workers who got the reduction in force notices.

00:38:57.600 And, uh, part of the deal to, to bring the government back was every one of those people

00:39:01.840 was rehired and given back pay.

00:39:04.660 Now, uh, I don't, are we going to talk later about the shutdown or do we have something?

00:39:10.640 Uh, I don't have anything specific.

00:39:11.880 So if you want to jump on it, go ahead and do it now.

00:39:13.920 Well, this is a perfect, this is a great example.

00:39:16.160 I, and by the way, do you sort of a favor and look up the video of her bragging about

00:39:20.100 the TSA bonus.

00:39:21.220 She's got like a group of people behind her and, and they look like they hate being in

00:39:26.080 her presence and she's bragging about how she's going to, she's going to give them

00:39:29.340 money.

00:39:30.480 Uh, but this is a larger problem with, uh, with the Republican party.

00:39:34.900 Uh, we had a shutdown that lasted for what?

00:39:37.240 45 days, something like that.

00:39:39.160 Why didn't he use that opportunity to just mass fire government employees who are as a

00:39:47.000 group, incredibly opposed to, to him personally and Republican party in general, the, during

00:39:54.220 the shutdown, my state had an election, which to be fair, we were going to lose that election.

00:40:00.320 Uh, she was going to be the governor no matter what, but it didn't have to be the bloodbath

00:40:04.540 that it did, but beyond that, you could have probably didn't have to be the, the AG.

00:40:09.700 Yeah.

00:40:10.160 Uh, but beyond that, you had an opportunity during the shutdown to just punish fair, just

00:40:14.740 beat the crap out of Fairfax County for what they did.

00:40:18.160 You could have, you could have, you could have set like a 10% of the county to the unemployment

00:40:23.160 line with the stroke of the pen and they couldn't have done anything.

00:40:26.420 Well, I'm sure a judge could have said you weren't allowed to do that, but you know,

00:40:31.560 as we learned when Biden was president, uh, uh, you know, age is just a number and of court

00:40:37.840 rulings are just words on a piece of paper.

00:40:40.020 You don't necessarily have to do what the judge tells you to do, but they didn't even try to

00:40:44.020 do that.

00:40:44.500 In fact, they rehired everyone that was fired.

00:40:47.060 And I'm not sure what we got out of the, of the shutdown at all, other than getting blamed

00:40:53.660 for the failures of Obamacare.

00:40:56.000 So yeah, it does seem strange that they're extremely unwilling to, to eat, to remotely

00:41:02.560 harm the clients of their enemies who tried to put him in jail previously and will put

00:41:10.400 other people who are working for him now in prison after they get back in the power.

00:41:15.440 Uh, why are you so hesitant to fire these people?

00:41:18.320 Are you worried about an economic downturn?

00:41:20.540 Where are you going to get that anyway?

00:41:21.740 And the only people who are going to have secure employment are going to be the people

00:41:25.760 who despise you and your, your supporters are going to be ones who actually suffer from

00:41:30.760 it.

00:41:31.420 Uh, the Democrats don't worry about stuff like this.

00:41:34.980 Uh, this, this policy could crash the economy, uh, F it.

00:41:38.380 We're going to, we're going to shut down every state.

00:41:41.020 We're going to print money.

00:41:42.860 Like it's like, there's no tomorrow.

00:41:44.080 We don't care.

00:41:44.800 As long as there is money going to our clients, we're happy.

00:41:48.700 The Republican party does not want to do a damn thing for the people who, who vote for

00:41:53.740 them.

00:41:54.120 They kind of openly despise their most loyal base.

00:41:59.060 This is this in no other reason is why they continue to fail.

00:42:03.720 And unfortunately it doesn't seem like they learned any of the lessons from, from 2017.

00:42:08.780 And we're maybe going right back to what we got a nice taste of in 2020.

00:42:17.680 Well, speaking of, uh, conservative commentators who don't seem particularly fond of the base

00:42:23.040 that they're talking to, uh, Ben Shapiro had a banner week.

00:42:26.400 Um, so here is him discussing the H1B issue.

00:42:30.400 This is the, the less egregious of the two, uh, statements he had today, but it, it dovetails

00:42:35.980 in with obviously the rest of the debate we're discussing so far.

00:42:39.300 States that require a level of expertise that may not be reachable in the numbers that are

00:42:44.360 currently being churned out by American universities.

00:42:46.140 That is a shortcoming of our educational system.

00:42:48.180 And it is a problem.

00:42:49.900 And so you can say we should up our game education.

00:42:52.120 I agree.

00:42:52.500 We should absolutely up our game educationally.

00:42:54.480 But in the meantime, if you do not bring in the labor supply, particularly to tech,

00:43:00.100 tech will go find the labor supply.

00:43:02.080 And so what you will end up with is an office that was employing 30 Americans and three H1B

00:43:06.140 visa people.

00:43:08.000 If the costs grow too high, simply moving to another country where they hire 30 Indians

00:43:13.300 and zero Americans, right?

00:43:16.460 This is the problem with all the reason companies offshore is not because it's easy or fun to

00:43:20.540 simply move your company somewhere else.

00:43:22.040 It's because the labor costs become so prohibitive in the United States that companies move away.

00:43:28.640 How are we still doing this?

00:43:30.800 How, how, how is anyone still making this argument?

00:43:35.380 If it was only him and people like him who got punished by this, it would be, it would

00:43:40.700 be like almost, uh, uh, car, I can't, uh, funny enough to use the term karma because like

00:43:46.500 this, this, this is for him, a suicidal idea.

00:43:50.480 And, and, uh, he's on, he's on his little program, uh, bitching every week about how so

00:43:56.940 many people in this country now, uh, despise him and his, his ethnic and religious group.

00:44:02.060 Guess what?

00:44:02.460 Do you know why that is brother?

00:44:03.800 Because you fucking brought them here to undercut American labor.

00:44:07.980 That this is your fault.

00:44:09.700 And if it was only you that would be punished by this, it would be funny.

00:44:14.160 But unfortunately this is, you know, this is actually our country.

00:44:17.540 We've, I've, my family has been here since, since Jamestown.

00:44:21.420 It's like, uh, we're getting caught in the crossfire of your behavior.

00:44:24.580 Just to deport.

00:44:25.820 We should just deport this guy today.

00:44:28.040 Who, who, who is, is this Abby's brother?

00:44:30.460 I think that might be the case.

00:44:33.720 Yes.

00:44:34.380 What, what, what, what is this mob boss tone or whatever?

00:44:38.340 Once again, my only question is who the hell is this for?

00:44:42.440 Who is watching this and pumping their fists and like, hell yeah, Ben, you tell them.

00:44:47.420 Uh, is this, is this, is this kicking ass in, in the, uh, the Silicon Valley break room?

00:44:52.880 How do these people stay on the air?

00:44:55.000 I don't understand this at all.

00:44:56.720 This is just, to, to be fair, this is just the Koch brothers, libertarian ideology that

00:45:03.160 was pumped through the entire Republican party for decades.

00:45:05.900 Like I, I heard this logic.

00:45:08.040 I believed this logic until like five years ago at free trade, man, but border, you know,

00:45:14.200 whatever, like if we don't bring these people in, if we are not the most competitive, then

00:45:18.420 everything will just leave.

00:45:19.380 So we've gotta, we've gotta destroy the country.

00:45:21.580 We have to destroy social fabric.

00:45:22.920 We'll, we'll play his discussion about that here in a second as well, but we, we've got

00:45:28.060 to, you know, deracinate our population.

00:45:31.040 We have to become multi-cultural.

00:45:33.420 We have to open up the borders because ultimately if we don't compete on the global stage, if

00:45:38.240 we're not number one in every area, and this is always how it works, rather it, whether

00:45:41.940 it's the, you know, we have to be global empire.

00:45:45.480 We have to be the hegemon.

00:45:46.820 We have to invade every country.

00:45:48.140 We have to, you know, uh, send missiles and troops everywhere.

00:45:51.780 We have to open our borders.

00:45:53.180 We have to allow all these people in.

00:45:54.780 And the answer is always the same.

00:45:56.180 If we don't do it, China will, right?

00:45:59.240 Some other country will do it except China is not doing it.

00:46:02.100 And apparently they're beating us.

00:46:03.400 And not only are they beating us, they're shipping their own people into our country to

00:46:07.220 steal our secrets and to flood our elite class to take over control.

00:46:11.860 Like none of this makes sense.

00:46:13.860 So the argument was always dumb, but at least it was like the only argument for a while.

00:46:19.560 And you could see how people got tricked by it.

00:46:21.660 Now we have seen the fruits of this.

00:46:23.600 Like this is no longer some kind of, uh, you know, uh, hypothetical.

00:46:28.220 We know what happens when Ben Shapiro economics hits America.

00:46:32.500 It gets devastated.

00:46:33.900 It looks like it does.

00:46:34.780 Now we ship all of our jobs out.

00:46:36.940 We destroy our neighborhoods.

00:46:38.160 We destroy our social fabric.

00:46:39.540 We destroy our civic and religious identity.

00:46:43.460 All of these things are the down effects of what Ben is explaining.

00:46:47.200 And what's the upside?

00:46:49.160 We're losing the jobs anyway, because they have to go to foreign workers.

00:46:53.520 So now they just get to do the job in our country and we get to what train them how to

00:46:58.600 replace those workers.

00:47:00.420 That's it.

00:47:01.320 There's no difference that if the job goes to a foreigner in India, instead of the job

00:47:06.000 going to a foreigner in America who came from India, there is no difference.

00:47:10.340 It's the same picture.

00:47:12.340 These guys are so full of S, uh, you know, all this stuff about, um, we heard, you know,

00:47:18.100 all the, oh, Reagan, this blah, blah, blah.

00:47:20.860 Uh, and you know, Reagan had all these, these amazing quotes about reducing the size of the

00:47:25.340 federal government.

00:47:26.520 Was that ever done at all whatsoever?

00:47:29.400 No.

00:47:29.900 You know why?

00:47:30.480 Cause it's hard.

00:47:31.220 Uh, the second you, and you were talking about, um, reducing the size of the government.

00:47:36.860 Now, Trump did try to fire people during the shutdown.

00:47:40.880 That was, that was, uh, an injunction by a star Wars named judge.

00:47:45.500 Now, of course we already had these, we already had a, um, uh, a ruling from the Supreme court

00:47:52.120 that said no more injunctions on this kind of stuff from lower court judges.

00:47:56.080 I don't know what happened with that.

00:47:57.540 And I don't think anyone will until we get, uh, a Republican Eric Holder.

00:48:02.620 Um, yeah, but, but, but that doesn't, that doesn't matter because obviously it wasn't

00:48:07.100 that the injunction stopped them because with the deal, they rehired the people that they

00:48:11.560 were able to fire.

00:48:12.520 They didn't want to fire them in the first place.

00:48:14.640 They didn't want, they didn't want to go through the shutdown.

00:48:17.440 They didn't want to cut off the, uh, direct payments to, to the clients of their enemy.

00:48:22.620 They didn't want to do any of that stuff.

00:48:24.020 And yeah, you're right.

00:48:24.860 It is because it's hard.

00:48:26.700 And Orrin, uh, asked, you know, rhetorically, like, what's the upside to this?

00:48:31.680 Well, I guess if like, you're looking at, if you're going to go back to, to his, like

00:48:36.240 Roman history, I'm sure it felt great for some of those later emperors when they were,

00:48:41.580 you know, winning these wars and like invading Parthia or whatever.

00:48:45.440 And they're using all these mer, these basically mercenary foreign, foreign soldiers that they

00:48:52.060 allowed in through the gates to, to, to do the fighting for them, because I'm sure I

00:48:57.780 felt good because you've temporarily, you're, you're on top.

00:49:00.260 Hey, we staved off defeat for, for another, you know, not defeat.

00:49:04.680 We staved off contraction for another generation.

00:49:07.880 But in the longterm, if it is a zero sum war, which is what these people are always saying

00:49:13.880 and Hey, they're, they are right.

00:49:16.280 Politics is a zero sum game, but you don't win a war by opening the gates and letting,

00:49:21.400 letting the enemy in, you know, that doesn't, doesn't work that way.

00:49:24.720 It never has worked that way.

00:49:26.020 And the, the, the reality is it's very hard for an empire to, to step, to step back and

00:49:34.340 say, okay, we need to consolidate.

00:49:35.740 We need to give up some of what we got to keep, to keep what is important.

00:49:40.000 And that generally only happens when you have a leader who has an iron grip on, on political

00:49:47.600 power, like Augustus did it because he was, he was like, for all intents and purposes, a

00:49:52.540 guide to his people.

00:49:53.920 Later emperors did not have that power.

00:49:56.480 They would get, they were getting murked by their own bodyguards.

00:49:59.420 Uh, Trump doesn't have that authority.

00:50:02.180 Uh, his, I also rhetorically asked, who's this shit for?

00:50:07.240 What Ben Shapiro saying that's for like, if you're being generous, a third of the Republican

00:50:13.280 caucus in, in the legislature.

00:50:15.100 And if you're being realistic, probably more like half, that's who that's for.

00:50:20.120 They're never going to, they're never going to support doing the right thing, which

00:50:23.740 is why, by the way, if you've been, if you were listening to our show for the last, for

00:50:27.560 the last year, we were saying, you have to use executive authority.

00:50:31.400 You have to not be afraid to just tell the judges no, because the only way you're going

00:50:36.400 to do any of the stuff that you promise that you need to do is through executive power.

00:50:40.560 You have to force people to go along with it.

00:50:43.780 And it's, I'm sorry, it's obvious they are still afraid to do that.

00:50:49.440 Yeah.

00:50:50.340 So, uh, someone, someone in the comments says that, uh, I will, I will stick up for being

00:50:56.460 here.

00:50:56.740 Uh, and I don't, I don't normally respond, but someone said that, uh, Ben's being paid

00:51:01.280 by Israel.

00:51:01.880 So I'll just say if Israel needs to pay Ben Shapiro, they're in really deep trouble.

00:51:08.800 There's a good chance that he does not require funds for the state of Israel.

00:51:12.480 Not, not, not checking the, uh, the, the, the mailbox for cash before he issues that opinion,

00:51:17.560 I'm guessing.

00:51:18.080 Yeah, that's, that's not necessary.

00:51:21.000 Uh, if we want to go with, with, with China in particular, uh, there's a, uh, a pertinent

00:51:26.940 story today.

00:51:27.700 So the Linda son trial, if anyone remembers this, this was a, uh, little story.

00:51:32.220 Uh, Linda son was a active agent of the CCP and she was the, um, whatever you call like

00:51:39.620 the, the prime assistant to, uh, the governor of New York state.

00:51:43.920 That is a large state of the United States.

00:51:47.300 And the person who controlled all access to this governor was an active agent of the CCP.

00:51:52.140 This person had a, uh, prestigious degree from Barnard college.

00:51:57.120 One of the most difficult colleges to get into the United States.

00:51:59.860 It's, it's, uh, uh, in New York city, it's where the children, the rich and famous go

00:52:03.720 and the daughters, and maybe it's co-ed now, uh, when the New York times article about this

00:52:11.780 story, a byline of this said that just in Brooklyn, not in New York state, but just in Brooklyn

00:52:20.120 in the previous year, 100 CCP spies had been caught, which blew me away.

00:52:27.800 But, uh, so Linda's son's going, going to court today.

00:52:31.260 I, I, I think she'll, she could, she could probably win, but what's amazing is, you know,

00:52:35.960 what she was doing for a living.

00:52:37.660 She was a diversity instructor.

00:52:39.640 She was sitting here policing Americans.

00:52:41.720 And this is, this is someone, an active agent.

00:52:44.600 She drove, uh, her and her husband only drew, drove Ferraris and Lamborghinis.

00:52:49.320 They had mansions.

00:52:50.580 They have mansions everywhere.

00:52:51.900 I think she'll probably beat the charges, you know, probably will.

00:52:54.980 Uh, you know, China doesn't have a problem with spies at all.

00:52:57.840 And, uh, you know, they used to, they used to, and they killed all of them.

00:53:01.400 And now people like don't want to do that.

00:53:04.180 You know, I'll sit in the office and try to hack the computer.

00:53:06.700 I don't want to go over there.

00:53:07.720 Well, they're not going to do that.

00:53:08.960 But furthermore, if you look at the Honeywell case in particular, but you don't need to

00:53:13.880 take my word for it, just go on Wikipedia or go look up, play a video game.

00:53:18.440 That's got Chinese jets in them.

00:53:20.200 Go look at the fighter jets.

00:53:21.640 You're going to notice they look awfully effing familiar.

00:53:25.180 You know why?

00:53:25.840 Because, uh, Honeywell was full of Chinese spies and all the plans that we spent on the amount

00:53:33.900 of money we spent on, on, on the F-22 and, and, and, and, uh, and the 35 F-35, just ungodly

00:53:43.700 amounts of money.

00:53:44.300 They just took it.

00:53:45.060 Yeah.

00:53:45.280 Thanks.

00:53:45.860 Thanks.

00:53:46.180 Yeah.

00:53:46.300 We'll just build those now too.

00:53:48.040 Gee, thanks.

00:53:49.060 Uh, this is totally crazy.

00:53:50.940 And once again, you can't say anything, you know why?

00:53:53.900 Cause the civil rights act says, says you're going to, you know, you're going to get a,

00:53:57.460 a professional death penalty.

00:53:59.260 If you, if you, cause you, what would, what would you do about this?

00:54:02.460 You, you, you'd have to screen.

00:54:04.480 You'd say, well, this guy's Chinese.

00:54:05.960 I'm not sure if he should, I'm not sure if he should have this job.

00:54:08.740 You can't do that.

00:54:09.840 You can't do that.

00:54:10.580 And by the way, it doesn't matter if it like, oh, well, this person's born here.

00:54:14.720 If they got family back, back in the old country that the government can squeeze, it doesn't

00:54:20.000 matter how much they love you or how much they love George Washington, all this BS.

00:54:24.880 This.

00:54:26.440 Yeah.

00:54:27.500 Vivek Ramachwamy was born in the United States.

00:54:30.860 So yeah, that doesn't, that doesn't matter.

00:54:33.240 Obviously that does not make you American in the 21st century at all.

00:54:37.960 Ultimately what's important.

00:54:40.340 Look, the H1B stuff is important.

00:54:43.000 These jobs are important.

00:54:44.860 It's not going to, it sucks to have, you can look at, at, at the, the, the, the rust belt

00:54:51.300 that, that put, that put this man in office who had, they were just the most recent victims.

00:54:55.600 Us in the South, we'd already got our clocks cleaned before, but you can look at the job

00:55:00.420 situation.

00:55:00.960 It's bad.

00:55:01.560 All this stuff is bad.

00:55:02.820 However, ultimately why all these people support this.

00:55:06.040 And by the way, Ben, Ben fought Trump every step of the way.

00:55:08.980 He did everything.

00:55:09.480 He could keep him out of office.

00:55:11.340 Never Trump hated Trump, never voting for him, all that stuff.

00:55:14.840 He speaks for, he speaks for no one on this, on this topic.

00:55:18.740 You, you're, you're not, you're not a mouthpiece, piece for Trump, Ben.

00:55:22.100 Get out of here.

00:55:22.740 But ultimately there's a point and all these people want it.

00:55:26.660 What they hate is they hate it.

00:55:28.200 They hate this.

00:55:29.100 We're Americans.

00:55:30.340 We, we speak up and we, we have, we have desires and we'll elect a lunatic and put him

00:55:37.020 in office and say, do something about this.

00:55:39.640 There becomes a breaking point with, with, with ethnic groups and demography where we, at

00:55:45.320 a certain point, we'll just be just another group fighting for, fighting for, for, for,

00:55:50.560 for anything we could get.

00:55:51.800 And at that point, they won't have to worry about us anymore.

00:55:54.680 At that point, all this stuff, all this politics, are you a Jacksonian or a Hamiltonian?

00:56:00.460 All that shit is out the window.

00:56:02.380 All it's all out the window.

00:56:03.860 You could take a look at what the, how things are going in the United Kingdom.

00:56:07.960 They're already having to like question.

00:56:09.440 Like, like, honestly, if you, if you share, like, you know, we have the, the eight eyes agreement

00:56:14.180 or whatever, if you share like, like secret stuff with, with, with UK about like, you

00:56:19.260 know, these, these Muslim countries.

00:56:20.660 Whatever.

00:56:21.400 I mean, just take a look.

00:56:23.580 I mean, you, you, you know, that stuff is going to end up in their hands.

00:56:26.220 Why wouldn't it?

00:56:27.280 Uh, so there's, there is, there's look, we're not there yet.

00:56:30.940 It's not time to freak out, but there's, there becomes a point where just so many, the numbers,

00:56:35.600 the raw numbers, it's going to get to a level where we're just going to be, we're just going

00:56:39.740 to be another random group.

00:56:41.220 We'll be like the Koreans or this or that, and we'll have no say in anything.

00:56:44.660 Well, it only gets better.

00:56:47.220 Here was, uh, Ben Drew's, uh, appearance on the trigonometry podcast, uh, where not

00:56:52.880 only will you be replaced with H1B workers and that's fine, but also, uh, you probably

00:56:58.940 shouldn't live in your hometown anymore.

00:57:00.980 Maybe you should not live here.

00:57:02.340 I mean, that is a real young person and you can't afford to live here.

00:57:05.360 Then maybe you should not live here.

00:57:07.120 I mean, that is a real thing.

00:57:09.120 Yeah.

00:57:09.280 I know that we've, we've now grown up in a society that says that you deserve to live

00:57:13.000 where you grew up.

00:57:14.140 But the reality is that the history of America is almost literally the opposite of that.

00:57:18.120 The history of America is you go to a place where there is opportunity.

00:57:21.500 And if the opportunities are limited here and they're not changing, then you really should

00:57:25.180 try to think about other places where you have better opportunities.

00:57:30.300 Now, excuse me, is this guy's whole, uh, routine and like political beliefs and most deeply

00:57:35.240 held ideas that I, that that specific group of people deserve to live in a specific location

00:57:41.420 because they were there 2000 years ago, literally just full on blood and soil nationalism.

00:57:46.980 Like this is where my ancestors lived thousands of years ago.

00:57:51.900 And so because of that, we have the eternal right to this piece of land because we lived

00:57:57.740 here and my, my ancestors own this.

00:58:01.540 Like that is 95% of what he goes on about constantly, but you American, you do not have a right to live

00:58:10.480 where you grew up.

00:58:11.960 In fact, I'm going to ensure that you can't live where you grew up because I'm going to

00:58:15.840 bring in an H-1B student, uh, or H-1B guy to take your job, even though you barely made

00:58:21.300 it into university because you were competing with hundreds of thousands of Chinese students

00:58:25.540 and paying the inflated tuition to get there.

00:58:27.760 And once you lose that job to the HB1 worker that I made sure was going to come into your town

00:58:34.020 and take your job and buy your house and price you out of the market, I'm going to tell

00:58:38.140 you just move somewhere else because don't worry, that same process won't occur there.

00:58:44.160 It's not like there's some noticeable gradient to the policies that I am supporting that will

00:58:49.600 ensure that you become a rootless, rootless cosmopolitan who has no homeland, but don't

00:58:54.720 worry, don't worry.

00:58:56.160 I care deeply about other people's homelands, just not Americans' homelands.

00:59:00.340 Yeah, the, uh, uh, the, uh, Roman pro-consul of East Asia, tap him on the shoulder and, uh,

00:59:08.160 giving him the same speech back.

00:59:17.700 The speech bubble coming from Ben Shapiro and Emperor Titus.

00:59:21.180 Right.

00:59:21.460 There's the same things.

00:59:22.320 Yeah, just, I mean, like I said, this, this has just been, and, and of course, obviously

00:59:29.300 Ben is not part of the Trump administration, but it is just showing all of these are like

00:59:34.460 legacy conservative donor class talking points, right?

00:59:40.440 Like these, this is the stuff that like would have got pushed out consistently 20 years ago

00:59:45.820 and just fed through the talk radio network and assumed, uh, that, that, that's just would

00:59:50.720 be gobbled up by, well, frankly, guys like me who are listening all the time to that kind

00:59:55.320 of stuff.

00:59:55.900 And they've just acted like nothing has changed.

00:59:59.180 Nothing has changed.

01:00:00.420 And it's all lecturing down, especially like this particularly felt by young men who are

01:00:06.980 trying to start families who are told you can't get into college.

01:00:10.480 If you do, it's going to cost you an insane amount.

01:00:12.600 If you do get that, then even if you manage to get the degree, even though there's a express

01:00:18.180 bias against you to even get you into college and you have to spend all this money once

01:00:22.460 you get out, you're not going to be able to get a job because we're replacing those jobs

01:00:26.200 with H one B's.

01:00:27.080 And even if you manage to get a job, you won't be able to afford a house because we don't

01:00:30.820 care about housing prices.

01:00:31.900 We didn't even touch on the 50 year mortgage, uh, that Trump floated, uh, this week.

01:00:37.000 And so, and then Ben Shapiro, you shouldn't, you shouldn't live, you know, where you grew

01:00:41.640 up, uh, we're conservative, but we don't care about social fabric or neighborhoods or

01:00:45.980 communities or tradition.

01:00:48.080 Uh, none of that stuff matters.

01:00:49.820 Like it's just a big F you to every young man out in the United States.

01:00:55.920 And then they're like, but I don't get it.

01:00:57.940 Why are, why, why are guys listening to like Nick Fuentes?

01:01:01.020 I don't know, man.

01:01:02.140 Like if you're a young man hearing every single person in the GOP in these positions, tell

01:01:08.280 you that you don't deserve a job and you don't deserve a house and you don't deserve a homeland.

01:01:13.620 I don't know, man.

01:01:14.580 Do you think I would push you in any particular direction?

01:01:17.560 Don't worry.

01:01:18.240 You're not going to have a house.

01:01:19.360 You're never going to have a family.

01:01:20.360 You're never going to have kids.

01:01:21.920 Uh, you know, just move wherever.

01:01:23.520 If you have some, if we, if we send in, uh, you know, uh, a hundred thousand Indians to take

01:01:28.180 your jobs, don't worry.

01:01:29.580 It's fine.

01:01:30.440 You can just go, you know, you can go weld.

01:01:32.700 Oh no, actually you can't learn to weld.

01:01:34.380 We said you're too stupid to do that.

01:01:36.160 Uh, like they told us to code, learn to code.

01:01:39.840 And then they gave the coding jobs to immigrants and it's like, okay, we'll go back to the

01:01:44.000 trades.

01:01:44.520 Well, now actually we're going to give the trades jobs to the Indians too.

01:01:47.800 Like just all of your jobs are going to go to foreigners.

01:01:51.660 Um, and, and, and you, you know, but, but don't worry, don't become radical.

01:01:56.080 Don't look elsewhere.

01:01:57.100 Like if these guys wanted to gift wrap young men for the most radical voices on the right,

01:02:04.080 they could not do a better job.

01:02:06.520 Yeah.

01:02:07.320 Um, let's go back to Hyundai.

01:02:10.440 Hyundai is a great case example.

01:02:12.280 So Hyundai spends about $3 million a year on lobbying and they, they, they give money to

01:02:18.800 both parties.

01:02:19.800 Um, they gave, uh, just like Kamala in particular got like 10 grand.

01:02:24.800 They probably gave something similar.

01:02:26.200 They just give money to everybody, you know, they're four and they don't really know the

01:02:30.300 ins and outs or whatever.

01:02:32.120 Uh, so, you know, we got, uh, uh, you saw Trump, you know, sweeping for Hyundai, give

01:02:38.460 Hyundai a chance, blah, blah, blah.

01:02:40.100 Just went over there.

01:02:40.940 By the way, you know, um, my understanding Korea, just South Korea, just, uh, I like to

01:02:44.460 be very, very, like, uh, uh, very, uh, you know, Valerie Salonis, uh, uh, uh, sympathizing

01:02:52.120 government, uh, uh, scum manifesto level government.

01:02:55.780 Okay.

01:02:57.120 So we, we, we saw that from that situation.

01:02:59.680 Okay.

01:03:00.080 Let's, let's look at how the Democrat party who actually understands how to, how to rock

01:03:04.160 and roll with politics, uh, how they, how they handle Hyundai.

01:03:07.440 So, uh, a bunch of their supporters in Washington, DC were stealing Hyundai and Kia cars like crazy.

01:03:15.260 Um, if you, they, they, they couldn't sell anymore of them in, you know, the fleet sales

01:03:20.220 and stuff, they couldn't sell anymore because if you had one, they were all getting stolen

01:03:24.040 because there was a Tik TOK account called the, the Kia boys that had a, a, a, uh, a video

01:03:29.940 tutorial on how to steal any Hyundai and Kia.

01:03:32.960 So these are, uh, uh, criminals and gangs are stealing the cars.

01:03:38.500 They're stealing the cars.

01:03:39.840 Now the, so the, the, the, they're stealing the cars, they're stealing the cats.

01:03:43.800 Yeah.

01:03:45.140 And so the, the Washington DC government who's in charge of the police there, you know, there's

01:03:50.500 cameras on every corner.

01:03:51.800 This is Washington DC.

01:03:52.880 There's, there's a, you know, a militarized town.

01:03:55.440 Um, how did they approach this problem?

01:03:57.660 Uh, they took, they took Hyundai to court.

01:04:01.960 They said, you pay us because we, because too many, uh, too many of our guys are stealing

01:04:08.460 your cars.

01:04:09.280 You pay us F you.

01:04:11.660 And you know why they're right?

01:04:12.960 Because that money that's given to them, they don't need the money.

01:04:16.820 The money is like, please listen to, you know, it, they're, they're begging, whatever

01:04:21.700 those voters in Washington DC that, that put, uh, that put, uh, uh, Bowser in office or

01:04:27.740 whatever, uh, they, they don't have money, but they got votes and votes is all you need

01:04:31.400 to get office.

01:04:32.420 I mean, you're in charge of huge, huge budgets where they said, you pay us for the, because

01:04:37.460 that's, that's the difference.

01:04:39.360 And it's about the audience Hyundai ain't voting for you, man.

01:04:43.980 Well, we have a stack of, uh, super chats coming in.

01:04:48.100 We need to get to the questions of the people, so we'll move on to those here, but before

01:04:52.160 we do guys, can you tell everybody where to find your show?

01:04:56.840 Yes.

01:04:57.580 Good.

01:04:58.580 Well, tonight you can find us on kick.com, uh, G O O D O L B O Y Z.

01:05:04.540 You can also find us on Patreon with the same name, but tonight at what?

01:05:08.480 Nine o'clock we will be streaming on kick.

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01:05:18.100 All right, guys, make sure that you are of course, listening to the good old boys, as

01:05:22.020 you always should be.

01:05:23.340 Let's head over to the questions real quick.

01:05:25.180 We're getting YouTube going, by the way.

01:05:27.100 Sorry.

01:05:27.400 I'm sorry.

01:05:27.700 We're getting YouTube going.

01:05:28.960 We're on Patreon and, um, but you can find all our stuff from, from, from our, our Twitter

01:05:34.520 accounts, but I did.

01:05:35.220 I did.

01:05:35.500 I had to plug the YouTube because we're, we're getting on and on the YouTube griff or on.

01:05:39.800 Got to show your backs.

01:05:41.520 Yep.

01:05:41.700 Yep.

01:05:41.880 Getting on, getting on all the different, uh, platforms.

01:05:44.400 Absolutely.

01:05:45.480 All right.

01:05:45.800 SM 2049 says, I can't listen to Trump in interviews without first taking Advil because I might throw

01:05:51.800 out my back from the cringe about Israel, H one B's, et cetera.

01:05:57.860 Uh, philosophical thirst worm says, uh, Trump got the duck whipped by, uh, G in the trade

01:06:03.980 standoff.

01:06:04.620 This is what losing a trade war looks like.

01:06:06.840 Our demographics are a bargaining chip.

01:06:09.380 Yeah.

01:06:09.520 Ultimately, I hope that's not the case, but I fear, like I said, that ultimately he does

01:06:14.320 see the economic output as the general good, right?

01:06:17.800 It's the, he is America first.

01:06:19.900 If America is kind of a, a GDP.

01:06:22.560 Um, and, and so that, uh, is, is having a pretty negative impact on, I think a lot of

01:06:27.300 these discussions here.

01:06:28.800 Yeah.

01:06:29.300 I alluded to this earlier, uh, that, that is a very strong possibility that the, that he,

01:06:34.900 part of the trade war, which you have to take in these, uh, 600,000 Chinese students and

01:06:41.540 which is funny for two reasons.

01:06:43.460 One, if you're China, why do you want that?

01:06:46.140 And the reasons are obvious.

01:06:47.260 We talked about it earlier, but everybody has to pretend like they don't understand it.

01:06:51.180 And two, what was the point of the trade war?

01:06:53.840 What's the point of the tariffs?

01:06:54.840 Tariffs if it wasn't to reshore American industry.

01:06:58.580 So all of these things that he's saying, uh, about H1Bs, it makes no sense in the context

01:07:04.640 of, of what he's trying to do, unless, and this has been really, a really vant to black

01:07:10.940 pill.

01:07:11.280 And I hope this is not accurate.

01:07:12.940 Like the tar, the point of the tariffs is just a revenue stream.

01:07:15.800 That's the worst reason to do tariffs that you could possibly, that you could possibly

01:07:19.340 come up with.

01:07:20.100 I don't think it is.

01:07:20.960 I think that he's got, he's squeezed and he, like you said, he's more afraid of hurting

01:07:25.780 the GDP than ultimately sabotaging some of the, to the things that he's trying to accomplish.

01:07:31.860 Oh my God.

01:07:32.780 You just brought up the worst thing in the world.

01:07:34.680 And this, this, this, uh, uh, uh, Scotty fellow, um, I don't know if you heard him in

01:07:40.460 the last week.

01:07:41.380 He's, he's, uh, uh, trying to flip on our $2,000, uh, tariff checks.

01:07:46.760 Yeah.

01:07:47.220 So, so really, I mean, that, that would be, that would be really,

01:07:50.840 really, uh, man, I wouldn't enjoy that.

01:07:53.300 And, um, if I was, if I was JD Vance, uh, I would really, really like him to make good

01:07:59.820 on that, on that two grand.

01:08:01.140 I'm just saying people who are not running for office, they're like, ah, they don't need

01:08:06.080 the two grand, the two grand is not, not, not super important.

01:08:09.900 Um, if you think back, think, uh, think back to 2020, man, look that two grand people remember

01:08:16.340 that when they got cash money from, from you or, or, or the guy who you're going to endorse,

01:08:22.800 that is super important.

01:08:24.480 Most people, they're not tuning in.

01:08:25.980 They're not catching every episode of everything.

01:08:27.720 They remember that cash money in their pocket, man.

01:08:30.480 They remember that check with, with big old Donald, uh, J Trump signature on it.

01:08:35.700 That's yeah, that's absolutely true.

01:08:37.620 Uh, let's see.

01:08:39.800 Warville says, uh, will gamers ever have a real champion or are we doomed to be courted

01:08:45.120 and dismissed as, as convenience?

01:08:47.340 Will the gamers ever truly be free?

01:08:49.840 Bog beef speak for the gamers.

01:08:51.860 Yes, you have a champion.

01:08:53.400 He's, he's standing here before you.

01:08:55.000 And, uh, and I will never, ever, ever turn my back on the gamers.

01:09:00.400 Regardless, I meet death threats and rape threats that I get daily for, for, for representing

01:09:05.100 the gamers daily, daily.

01:09:07.740 The things you have to endure, Bog, the things you have to endure.

01:09:11.580 Thirstworm says, even Trump can't shake off the cuck-servative loser mentality that you

01:09:15.620 must always try to get the people who hate you to like you, your voters.

01:09:19.800 Yeah.

01:09:20.340 Unfortunately, it's been very clear for a long time, especially when it comes to the black

01:09:24.580 community that Trump really has that classic boomer.

01:09:28.120 I'm only valid if the, if, if black community likes me, uh, that's why he was big on the,

01:09:33.620 uh, you know, uh, the, the, uh, criminal reform.

01:09:36.920 It's why he talks endlessly about winning their vote over.

01:09:40.140 It's why it's all about historical black colleges, uh, for, for all of his other frame breaking

01:09:45.180 that he does from time to time.

01:09:46.760 Uh, that, that one boomer, uh, like religious belief is just deeply embedded in Trump's psyche.

01:09:52.040 It's very clear.

01:09:52.980 It shows itself over and over again.

01:09:54.960 Yeah.

01:09:55.160 Let's bring back the platinum plan.

01:09:56.960 That's right.

01:09:57.620 That works so well the first time.

01:09:59.100 This is what happens when your politics are not based on patronage.

01:10:02.640 There were how, how many, how many, how many Democrats working in DC that weren't able to

01:10:08.300 pay their mortgage payment.

01:10:09.860 If they're not able, not able to, to, to, to, to do anything, you'd have had no money,

01:10:14.580 no checks coming in from their job.

01:10:16.680 How many of them said a word about, about, about the, about the shutdown?

01:10:21.400 Why weren't, why didn't, why didn't they say, Hey, look guys, come on, just let, just get

01:10:24.920 the Republicans where they want, man.

01:10:26.420 I just need, I just need my job back.

01:10:28.920 I'm not, I don't have money.

01:10:30.480 My paycheck it's done.

01:10:31.900 Not, not, it's not for a second.

01:10:34.060 Not for a second because it's a different relationship, man.

01:10:37.360 They don't, it's not like, Oh, those voters in the hood where they love, uh, uh, these,

01:10:42.880 these stupid politicians.

01:10:43.760 It's not the relationship, man.

01:10:46.240 Politicians don't love you.

01:10:47.620 And we're stupid for being the ones that are wanting to, to, to operate like that.

01:10:51.520 It's ridiculous.

01:10:54.360 Joe McDermott says 600 foreign, uh, 600,000 foreign students can get into the opt program

01:11:00.720 expanded under Obama and they're prefer, preferably hired because they're exempt from

01:11:05.800 FICA, et cetera.

01:11:07.500 His advisors seem to be content with Gen Z hating them.

01:11:12.720 Yes.

01:11:13.200 As, as, uh, have been pointed out multiple times here, uh, the structure for foreign workers,

01:11:19.620 once they're here to be hired and maintain their jobs is often built directly into law.

01:11:24.480 There's tax exemptions.

01:11:26.060 There's advantages.

01:11:26.700 There's just the civil rights act, which makes it very difficult, uh, you know, to, to hire

01:11:31.260 Americans over these people in many scenarios.

01:11:33.660 Uh, so it is one of those things that, uh, once they're in the system, uh, it's almost

01:11:39.080 impossible.

01:11:39.620 They have almost every advantage from the government, uh, legally, financially all across the board.

01:11:46.300 Elijah Tymon says, uh, you did a show before regarding the Trump admin, possibly stopping

01:11:50.440 ice raids at farms, hotels.

01:11:51.900 We need to keep an eye on it.

01:11:53.860 Uh, is there any updates?

01:11:55.000 Well, yeah, we haven't really seen a lot of these raids, right?

01:11:58.200 Like the Hyundai plant was a big deal because they actually seem to go after illegals in

01:12:03.200 the workplace though.

01:12:03.900 As we saw, as, as Bob, we've pointed out, there's a lot more going on that basically

01:12:07.480 triggered that it had to happen, but those were the kinds of raids we're ultimately hoping

01:12:11.480 because look at the end of the day, everyone knows that the actual answer to this is employment.

01:12:17.440 If we go after the employers who are hiring the illegals, they'll go away.

01:12:21.280 Yes, you can forcibly deport them.

01:12:24.040 I'm for that.

01:12:24.920 But ultimately, if we really want to send millions of these people home on their own accord, you

01:12:30.040 just make it impossible for them to get a job in the United States, to get an ER visit, to

01:12:34.700 put their kids in school.

01:12:36.160 They will go home.

01:12:37.540 This is at the end of the day.

01:12:39.720 Mechanically, this is a very easy problem to solve.

01:12:42.360 Everyone knows what the solutions are.

01:12:44.120 But we're actively choosing not to pursue the most effective solutions because we don't

01:12:48.840 want to make the big businesses, donors angry.

01:12:52.020 We don't want to see the GDP go down.

01:12:54.020 That's the reason.

01:12:55.220 Otherwise, we'd be raiding farms.

01:12:56.840 We'd be raiding hotels.

01:12:58.100 We'd be raiding these plants.

01:12:59.780 We'd be taking these guys out.

01:13:01.580 We would be pressing charges against the employers.

01:13:05.040 Again, none of this is hard.

01:13:06.560 Everyone knows how to do it.

01:13:08.360 They just don't want to.

01:13:09.540 It's like stopping crime.

01:13:10.560 We all know how to do it, but the optics are bad, so we don't do it.

01:13:15.660 And they know this to some extent because they brag about the deportation numbers and

01:13:19.760 how many people have left voluntarily.

01:13:22.060 And that is due to the full court prep.

01:13:25.120 Well, the aggressive work of ICE in the early part of the first few months of the administration.

01:13:31.820 If you let off the gas, that'll slow down and people will start to come back.

01:13:36.400 I mean, I know firsthand, you know, I live in an agricultural region.

01:13:40.960 There are people who left who said, yeah, we're bucking out because La Migra might come

01:13:46.360 and arrest us and we don't want that.

01:13:49.220 That only works if they think that you're a madman who's going to, you know, sick ice

01:13:54.640 on you and it's the 7-Eleven or whatever.

01:13:57.720 If you signal to them, we're not serious, we're not going to mess around with the employees,

01:14:03.000 we're not going to go to the farms, we're not going to interfere with the work that you're

01:14:06.480 doing, then they're just going to stay here because why wouldn't they?

01:14:10.560 Yeah, it puts an incentive and word gets back in the old country because, you know, they

01:14:14.620 have like everybody in the whole family saves up to get one person sent over here so they

01:14:18.400 can start the chain migration.

01:14:20.400 Three people I want to shout out here.

01:14:22.660 Number one, Tom Homan.

01:14:23.840 He's the only person in the administration I've ever, I've seen who understands the whole

01:14:27.600 audience thing.

01:14:28.320 And that comes from, there was a, there was a press statement or something and someone

01:14:34.060 said they were trying to, they were trying to glaze him and they said, oh, I've heard

01:14:38.880 you, you, you arrested so many people in the LA, LA raids and, and, and they were, and they

01:14:44.140 were all criminals and stuff.

01:14:45.480 And he said, no, no, no, no, no, stop.

01:14:47.560 Most of them did had no criminal record and he wanted to, to, to, to emphasize that.

01:14:52.780 And for people who aren't in the model coalition, like, well, that's weird.

01:14:56.240 Wouldn't you want to arrest the criminals?

01:14:57.880 No, no, no, no.

01:14:58.580 If you're model coalition, you're like that, we already got that stuff.

01:15:02.860 That, that kind of stuff kicks in when they go to the, to the, no, no, no.

01:15:06.020 We want to know you're grabbing people off the street and doing that.

01:15:09.340 Okay.

01:15:09.620 Number two, second person.

01:15:11.060 You can hear us a shill moment live tonight on kick nine.

01:15:14.940 We'll, we'll, we'll be joined by Fredo.

01:15:17.320 He told, he said to us, and he's the smartest guy I know this e-verify.

01:15:22.680 It's very simple.

01:15:23.460 E-verify.

01:15:24.140 It's already here.

01:15:24.860 It already works.

01:15:25.600 All you have to do is enforce it.

01:15:27.140 Boom.

01:15:28.220 And, um, number three, Curtis Sharvin, he said, easiest thing to do is, uh, they could do this

01:15:35.680 overnight right now, right now, IRS will, will hand you, if you're an illegal alien, a social

01:15:43.060 security number, they call it something else, but you just send off piece of paper and they

01:15:46.760 will give you a social security number, which now you can buy a house, buy a car, et cetera.

01:15:51.200 And we can just stop doing that.

01:15:53.160 That's crazy.

01:15:54.060 Why aren't we doing that?

01:15:55.040 That's really stupid.

01:15:56.120 And they could do it overnight.

01:15:57.920 And well, you know, if we keep pushing, maybe we'll get to those questions.

01:16:01.360 We're not at the real question, but it's beautiful.

01:16:03.980 And every day we have this conversation.

01:16:06.080 It's great.

01:16:06.620 It's, it's like listening to Democrats talk about crime.

01:16:09.560 Well, you want that conversation is always great.

01:16:12.340 They can't ever say anything good.

01:16:14.560 It's wonderful.

01:16:15.380 Just let them say anything they want.

01:16:17.380 So thank you.

01:16:18.480 You want, yeah, you definitely want the conversation centered on that.

01:16:21.460 We've got a lot of questions here.

01:16:22.840 So let's jump back in.

01:16:24.700 Sean Wineland says the manager of class somehow brainwashed us into late stage capitalism

01:16:28.800 belief that innovation and R and D are no longer possible.

01:16:31.900 Only cutting labor costs.

01:16:34.320 Yeah.

01:16:34.440 I mean, you certainly have this scenario and if you are making any kind of innovations,

01:16:39.760 it really is just in removing workers, right?

01:16:42.100 It's in the automation, it's in the robotics, which only makes this whole thing insane, even

01:16:46.960 more insane because we're importing more and more people into jobs where basically instead

01:16:51.780 of training their replacement, they're building their replacement as fast as possible.

01:16:55.500 And why, why are we bringing all of these people in from foreign countries to fill jobs?

01:16:59.540 We fully intend to automate, but here we are.

01:17:02.720 It's late stage empire, not late stage capitalism.

01:17:05.480 But unfortunately they are correct that this is the, the time period when you behave this

01:17:11.280 way.

01:17:11.820 Yeah.

01:17:13.060 Florida Henry says, uh, we may be trapped if deportations are a hundred percent successful.

01:17:18.020 Uh, uh, I Miami would immediately collapse.

01:17:21.700 I mean, Miami would be fine.

01:17:23.360 We just actually be able to drive on the roads.

01:17:25.020 I mean, I, I live in Florida.

01:17:26.600 I live in, in, in the, you know, the Southern half of Florida and yeah, there's, there's a lot

01:17:31.140 of, uh, Hispanics here, but I promise we'd figure it out.

01:17:34.220 Like it would be okay.

01:17:35.620 We'll, we'll make it through.

01:17:37.400 There's a, uh, a lot of redneck white boys in Homestead, which, uh, is real close.

01:17:42.880 Uh, we'll, we'll take over.

01:17:44.220 We call it the reconquista.

01:17:46.340 Um, so Joe McDermott says, uh, one thing illegal and foreign workers provide that Americans do

01:17:52.180 not is that they don't need to work under the workplace regulations that impede our workers

01:17:56.180 and businesses.

01:17:57.020 Yes.

01:17:57.380 Again, many such cases where, because Americans have to follow the law, uh, it is much easier

01:18:03.120 to bring in people who can work long hours, often under the table.

01:18:07.000 They'll work for less.

01:18:08.120 They don't need the same insurances.

01:18:09.520 They don't have to meet the same regulations.

01:18:11.560 Uh, you know, as, as, you know, we just talked about with the factory plant people dying in

01:18:16.020 these OSHA incidents and getting paid nickels, uh, all while pretending that, you know, they

01:18:20.940 have some kind of incredible knowledge that we couldn't have attained otherwise.

01:18:24.280 Uh, Chibi Wubbie says, what exactly is the disaster?

01:18:30.320 They're just being, they're being too honest.

01:18:32.740 Trump's been pro illegal immigration H1B from day one.

01:18:35.400 This guy was never your ally.

01:18:37.360 So again, actually, that's not what Trump said.

01:18:39.680 Uh, you can say he never meant it or whatever, but you can go back and play, uh, the, these,

01:18:43.800 he's talked about the H1B program and why it was a scam and why it needed to go and why

01:18:48.320 it was terrible and easily abused.

01:18:50.220 Um, yes, there, there has always been a streak of, they like legal immigration, but obviously

01:18:55.840 this has been, uh, something that's developed.

01:18:58.180 Obviously remember that, you know, this movement has, it's believe it or not, guys, it's been

01:19:02.700 10 years since Trump really, uh, started in the American political scene.

01:19:07.160 Uh, things have evolved over time, uh, believe it or not in a decade, people will notice problems

01:19:12.460 or inconsistencies and there has been a consistent push against not just illegal, but legal immigration.

01:19:17.800 Uh, the guys like JD Vance have echoed that concern.

01:19:21.880 Uh, so it's not just this idea that while they've always been for basically like open

01:19:26.460 borders and this is just, uh, you know, reinforcing all of that.

01:19:29.760 I don't think that's actually the case.

01:19:31.400 Yeah.

01:19:31.880 And by the way, uh, ally is like in this context is kind of a made up term that the left uses

01:19:37.760 to describe people who were in their coalition who aren't really getting anything.

01:19:41.860 Like you need to be an ally to the actual clients of, of the party.

01:19:45.620 Like Donald Trump's not my ally.

01:19:47.560 He's my patron.

01:19:48.940 He's, I gave him a vote and he's supposed to give me and people I care about things in

01:19:53.540 exchange for that.

01:19:54.340 And like, that's the, that's the, the complaint.

01:19:56.880 Well, I get you to say you should have never expected him to do that in the first place.

01:20:00.080 Well, but yeah, he did do that the first time around.

01:20:03.100 He didn't, he didn't do it enough and he's doing it now.

01:20:05.340 The, the, the complaint is you could be, you could be doing this a lot better.

01:20:09.120 You could be going a lot further.

01:20:10.260 We need more from you.

01:20:11.420 So, you know, I don't, we're not supposed to be buddies.

01:20:13.860 It's, this is a relationship that we have.

01:20:16.020 Well, and there's this thing and I don't want to take too long cause we've still got a lot

01:20:19.520 of questions left, but I will go on the mini rant here.

01:20:22.020 A lot of people are like, ha ha, you fell for it.

01:20:24.800 Trump was lying to you.

01:20:26.140 And that, and we were very smart cause we didn't support Trump.

01:20:29.500 And now, you know, we're, we're looking so smart cause like guys, I'm sorry, but half

01:20:34.740 of you were pushing this idea that Kamala Harris would somehow be a better choice.

01:20:38.020 So go pound sand also like I get it again, as someone who is a proponent of elite theory,

01:20:44.660 I understand that most of democracy sucks and most of politics is performative and theater.

01:20:49.840 And I want to, and we want to get down to the brass tacks.

01:20:52.920 That's why you guys talk about patronage.

01:20:54.860 That's why I'm talking about it.

01:20:56.460 Cause we want to get down to real politics.

01:20:58.940 So we're trying to drill down past all of the ideology and all the rhetoric and be like,

01:21:03.460 okay, no, people should do things for the people that vote for them.

01:21:07.320 The Republicans, the GOP conservatives, red America, they should have the same expectation

01:21:11.900 of politicians that someone shipping off the boat from India should have, you know, when

01:21:17.320 they cast their vote, you know, and you have this scenario where if you just want to stay

01:21:22.220 politically clean and never be wrong, then you can just say, well, I didn't support a

01:21:26.260 politician.

01:21:27.060 So, so if they do something wrong, I can just go, ha ha, I got you.

01:21:31.020 It's like, yeah, I guess you stay pure, but also you're just going to lose because you

01:21:35.700 have no representation and you're not pushing for any representation.

01:21:40.160 You're not trying to get anything done.

01:21:42.240 You're just saying, well, as long as I wash my hands of everything, then I'm just superior

01:21:46.460 and I'm smarter, I guess.

01:21:48.520 But like, do you, so just, you're, you're saying that you don't ever want things to change

01:21:53.340 as long as you can be right.

01:21:55.620 Okay.

01:21:55.980 You know, there's the old saying, uh, you know, uh, uh, uh, uh, cynics, uh, are correct

01:22:01.660 and optimists make money.

01:22:03.240 Right.

01:22:03.720 So, so yeah, you can be cynical and you can be correct because Trump has failed and he

01:22:08.220 will fail.

01:22:09.140 That's that's going to happen.

01:22:10.760 Right.

01:22:11.440 But he's done more than other politicians have during your lifetime.

01:22:14.780 So do you want to see if you can get the guy who's done more to do more, or do you just

01:22:19.800 want to throw your hands up and be right for the next three years and get nothing up to

01:22:24.260 you?

01:22:24.500 I guess when I was, uh, 14, oh, it was, uh, you know, on Friday, you get to wear your,

01:22:31.480 uh, your football Jersey to school.

01:22:33.780 I'm a football Jersey on.

01:22:35.600 I had my hair greased up.

01:22:36.840 I was ready to go.

01:22:38.100 And I asked out this cheerleader in the lunchroom, in the cafeteria in front of everybody.

01:22:43.540 I asked her out to the dance.

01:22:46.060 I was like, this is, this is, and, um, got turned down front of the whole school.

01:22:51.520 No, thanks.

01:22:53.380 Uh, I looked really stupid.

01:22:56.040 Uh, I put my hand on the hot stove and it burned me, but, uh, unbelievably I've kept doing

01:23:03.580 it over and over my whole life because I don't have another choice.

01:23:08.280 I can't do anything else.

01:23:10.200 This is the only way to go, man.

01:23:11.600 We, we, we have to make a deal here.

01:23:15.340 Uh, so yeah.

01:23:17.940 Sean Weiland says in education collect, uh, constructivism pushed out direct instruction

01:23:23.660 in the same way, the whole, uh, the, the same way whole word pushed out phonics, making most

01:23:29.800 students illiterate and unskilled.

01:23:31.200 Yes.

01:23:31.380 Unfortunately, I am very familiar with the fact that directed instruction was entirely banished

01:23:36.180 from most, uh, schooling, which is why it's as dumb as possible, but you can't sell training

01:23:41.340 books and, and, and the demographic advantages of direct instruction, uh, to woke, uh, administrators.

01:23:48.960 So here we are.

01:23:49.880 John Dewey, press S to spit.

01:23:52.120 Yeah.

01:23:52.400 Uh, man, you, uh, says, uh, call me crazy, but I thought the whole thing about America

01:23:57.460 first was putting Americans first.

01:23:59.180 It's also tiresome.

01:24:00.420 Yeah.

01:24:00.540 I mean, a lot of people have said, okay, apparently we just needed to put it from America first

01:24:04.140 to Americans first, because apparently America first was unclear.

01:24:07.680 So, so we'll just add the Americans and hopefully that will, we'll, we, now we don't have to

01:24:13.640 wonder if, if we're talking about the GDP or like the actual residents of the United States,

01:24:18.440 the actual people who live here and deserve it.

01:24:22.000 This philosophical thirst worm says they give a 10 K check to Democrat voters, but don't

01:24:26.060 give a 10 K check to Solon eighth for every libtard scalp he got.

01:24:29.900 Yeah.

01:24:30.020 For those who don't know, that was one of the guys on Twitter who was just tearing it up

01:24:33.420 after Charlie Kirk's assassination, getting all the different liberals who were, uh, celebrating

01:24:38.600 fired.

01:24:39.400 And yeah, sadly there will be no check in the mail for that guy who is doing far more than

01:24:44.320 any conservative in any think tank.

01:24:46.540 Uh, but they will hand out all those checks to, uh, leftists.

01:24:50.300 So he also says neocons, uh, say, say, I mean, I'm not sure what that means, uh, through

01:24:58.580 glass to import H one B's that eventually vote for she've mom, Donnie.

01:25:03.420 Donnie from Dan Tooney, uh, living down the golem fable.

01:25:08.580 Yeah.

01:25:08.660 Well, you end up in this scenario where, right.

01:25:11.280 We talked, uh, and I've talked about this many times, you know, it's all, it's the, the

01:25:14.800 young people are embracing socialism.

01:25:16.240 They're embracing socialism.

01:25:17.340 No, you, you moved a bunch of third worlders into New York and now the New York is made up

01:25:23.000 of third world as then they voted for a third world.

01:25:25.260 So this is, this is like cockney rhyming slang or, and this is, it's intentionally obscured.

01:25:31.440 You're, you're, you're what the kids call onk.

01:25:33.720 I figured it out near the end.

01:25:35.440 Thanks though.

01:25:37.000 I put it, I put the pieces together near the end.

01:25:40.180 Uh, Elijah time.

01:25:41.160 It's actually Dan to ween.

01:25:44.220 Thank you.

01:25:45.160 Thank you.

01:25:46.200 Um, uh, Chile, uh, Elijah time and says, uh, in Ben's ethnic culture, rootlessness and

01:25:52.360 ability to easily move has historically been strongly selected for most people.

01:25:56.580 Aren't like this.

01:25:57.700 It makes you us miserable.

01:25:59.020 Ben sees this as a flaw with us.

01:26:01.180 You know, I get that reading, but then also he doesn't believe that about Israel.

01:26:05.580 So yeah, I do hear you what you're saying.

01:26:07.520 I understand like historically European history, all these things, the implications there, but

01:26:12.220 actually I'm not sure that's even the case anymore.

01:26:17.040 Uh, Chibbly Wobbly says thoughts on Megadeth and Mustaine's retirement next year.

01:26:21.580 I mean, I'm a huge, uh, Megadeth fan.

01:26:24.100 I was lucky enough to see them, uh, last year, uh, always been a huge, uh, fan, uh, rest

01:26:29.800 in peace is one of the, if not the best, uh, metal album of all time.

01:26:34.840 Uh, so, uh, it is what it is, man.

01:26:39.000 Um, you, you can, you can say that other bands are more consistent than Megadeth and you'll

01:26:44.380 be right.

01:26:44.860 But rust is, is just, it's from another planet.

01:26:48.020 Like you don't even know how they wrote it.

01:26:51.500 Like, it doesn't like, again, I like all, a lot of Megadeth music, but that, the album

01:26:55.580 in particular is just, it's out of this world.

01:26:57.520 It's, it's, it's like, uh, divinely inspired at some point.

01:27:01.260 Uh, so, uh, big fan of them.

01:27:03.020 And of course, uh, you know, sad to see anyone have to hang it up.

01:27:06.000 But honestly, at this point, uh, it's getting a little sad to watch all of these rock stars

01:27:09.660 going around at seven years old.

01:27:11.760 Uh, you know, someone said this and I've been doing it, the reverse bucket list, you know,

01:27:15.800 recently I've seen, uh, Megadeth and, uh, Iron Maiden and Judas Priest and, um, Alice

01:27:22.680 Cooper.

01:27:23.380 Uh, well, I didn't get to see Ozzy sadly.

01:27:25.640 Uh, but like all these, I've, I've been trying to get to these bands before they go, uh, at

01:27:30.660 this point, because they're, you know, that, that generation of metal stars is passing away

01:27:34.600 faster, uh, than we can, uh, go see them in concert.

01:27:37.880 So, uh, honestly, kind of glad to see Mustaine ultimately say, actually, probably for the best

01:27:43.560 that I don't push my health.

01:27:44.780 I mean, man's already had cancer and everything else.

01:27:46.600 So probably for the best that he's not pushing himself too hard.

01:27:50.880 I heard a good, I heard a good Ozzy story lately that, um, uh, basically just, there

01:27:55.900 was, there was a second coming of the, all the, these, uh, um, reality TV shows.

01:28:00.800 And it was all these people.

01:28:01.640 They thought that the Ozzy show was scripted.

01:28:04.380 It was like, this guy is acts totally nuts and it's super entertaining.

01:28:07.960 It was like, it was killed in the ratings and stuff.

01:28:11.120 And, um, lots of people tried it and they found out, well, no, he actually, he's just

01:28:14.480 like that.

01:28:15.000 You can't script this.

01:28:16.300 Right.

01:28:18.280 Not grim says Trump's pardon of Netanyahu was depressing.

01:28:21.440 Well, to be clear, Trump didn't pardon Netanyahu.

01:28:23.480 Can't do that.

01:28:24.100 But he did basically ask the judge in Israel for a pardon on his behalf, uh, which is super

01:28:29.760 weird.

01:28:30.420 Uh, and actually I think America and Israel should just be sovereign countries and, uh, the internal

01:28:35.580 workings of Israel should be Israel's business.

01:28:38.120 And, uh, you know, the same should be the case in our, uh, business.

01:28:42.440 So, uh, yeah, not, not a fan of that particular action.

01:28:47.940 Midlife crisis.

01:28:48.860 Joe says they should import the Chinese students only to HBC.

01:28:53.660 Yeah.

01:28:54.180 The great replacement, but for historical black universities, like just send them all to

01:28:58.480 Howard.

01:28:58.980 Yeah.

01:28:59.320 Okay.

01:28:59.960 I'm on board with that.

01:29:01.480 Yeah.

01:29:02.280 Test scores going to be out of this world.

01:29:03.960 Uh, Sergeant Hodel says, uh, money power wants in, uh, uh, infinity third world Panda express

01:29:11.540 workers, maybe because first worlders refuse to work at Panda express because it has zero

01:29:16.400 social status, not because of low talent and more logical to be a neat versus a low status

01:29:23.120 Panda express employee.

01:29:24.740 Yeah.

01:29:24.940 I mean, that is obviously true as well, right?

01:29:27.580 There are, when you have a domestic population, unless you radically increase, uh, the income,

01:29:32.880 uh, those low status jobs are going to stay unfilled.

01:29:36.100 Uh, and so it's, yeah, it's not just about the money, uh, but the status is also a critical

01:29:41.640 aspect, uh, which has, you know, it's advantages.

01:29:44.380 A lot of people say, Oh, well, those jobs need to be filled.

01:29:46.160 Maybe they don't actually, maybe, maybe it's better.

01:29:48.140 Ultimately, if you have a culture where they say, maybe if we didn't have infinite fast food

01:29:53.240 restaurants and people stayed home and cooked because it was, you know, prohibitively expensive

01:29:57.960 to go out and eat at, you know, uh, slot places, uh, maybe, maybe that would be better,

01:30:02.760 uh, actually.

01:30:03.480 But of course we can't have those natural ebbs and flows in our economy that respond to

01:30:08.120 our culture, uh, because we want our markets to be globalized instead of nationalized.

01:30:12.900 So that's, that's such a great point.

01:30:14.920 And, uh, boomers don't get it because like, Oh, well I worked at the tasty freeze after

01:30:20.960 high school to make money for college.

01:30:23.100 And it's like, yeah, that's true.

01:30:24.600 And, and I also am old enough to remember I worked at a department store part time in

01:30:29.440 high school when it was like the people around me were other high school and college students

01:30:33.860 instead of people from, from the star, the star Wars planets.

01:30:37.760 And these weren't low status jobs to have because like almost everybody did it.

01:30:42.660 Now they are low status because you're surrounded by people, by people who don't speak your own

01:30:48.520 language, people who have a criminal records.

01:30:50.620 This is a cycle that reinforces itself and you could break that immediately by purging

01:30:56.280 a good chunk of the people who are there, who are here illegally.

01:31:00.400 Absolutely.

01:31:01.060 Correct.

01:31:02.660 Thogo says, why did Trump call immigration raids in the Bay area after, uh, talking, uh,

01:31:08.320 to been off and, uh, Jensen hung.

01:31:11.060 Uh, I don't know.

01:31:12.560 Uh, to be honest, uh, it seems like we're just kind of all over the place right now.

01:31:18.180 Uh, like I said, I didn't even get to this point, but like the Trump administration has

01:31:23.140 in a number of ways made H one B's hard, harder to get.

01:31:26.800 They've also done, you know, recently they just had, uh, Trump declare Antifa a foreign

01:31:32.460 terrorist organization, which is actually huge.

01:31:34.440 That's the right way to go about this.

01:31:35.960 It took them, uh, you know, a few months to get this done properly, but now they can

01:31:40.520 go after all the financials and everything.

01:31:42.200 So the Trump administration, parts of it are operating.

01:31:45.760 That's why today was about the messaging.

01:31:48.060 The messaging was so bad in many ways.

01:31:50.860 You know, Trump is talking about his own administration and it's raids as if they're

01:31:54.420 like someone else who's operating the government, which kind of probably is at this point.

01:32:00.400 Like, I don't even know if Trump knows what's going on in some of these scenarios.

01:32:03.580 So, you know, it's very disjointed about the conversations he's having, the messages

01:32:07.920 he's putting out.

01:32:08.580 And then what the administration is actually doing, of course, I prefer the administration

01:32:12.380 to do things correctly and win over, I guess, have the right messaging, but the messaging

01:32:18.060 is often how people know you're winning.

01:32:19.800 So your base doesn't know if you're winning the wider population doesn't know immediately

01:32:24.820 that you're winning because you're burying all of your wins inside this terrible rhetoric.

01:32:28.720 So that's kind of the purpose of, of this show.

01:32:31.440 Not that the, the, the admin can't do anything right, but that the messaging has just been

01:32:37.080 disastrous, especially to particular demographics inside the United States in the last few

01:32:41.860 weeks.

01:32:42.980 Two words, Rens Priebus.

01:32:47.200 Wow.

01:32:48.560 Joe McDermott says ending H-1Bs is a winning issue with bipartisan support.

01:32:53.140 We should be selecting an anti-H-1B hardline in every primary from here on out.

01:32:57.660 I hope this has already started.

01:32:59.020 I've never been as ready, ready to chimp harder.

01:33:01.380 Yeah.

01:33:01.540 And that's really the thing, right?

01:33:03.080 Much like immigration itself, this is a winning issue across the board.

01:33:07.340 Even Democrats don't really like this.

01:33:09.440 This is a pro-labor argument.

01:33:11.580 It's a pro-working class argument.

01:33:13.320 It's a, you know, it just, on every level, it improves the price, the lives of Americans.

01:33:17.660 The only people who don't like it are rich people who benefit from it and like super woke

01:33:22.560 people who have fallen for all the arguments.

01:33:25.020 Otherwise, yeah, no, this is, it's a winning issue and you should be pushing it a hundred percent.

01:33:29.680 And finally, Mr. Biofan says, I saw a clip of Will Ferrell movie, The Campaign.

01:33:36.140 A central plot point is the bad guys importing cheap foreign labor workers for manufacturing.

01:33:40.880 Yeah, it's amazing if you go back, like, that's not quite 20 years ago, but even if you look

01:33:47.180 at like news reports from 20 years ago, the mainstream media is talking about how H-1Bs

01:33:52.560 are used to replace American workers as if it's a bad thing, as if this is a horrible thing

01:33:56.800 that's happened to people in the United States. Now they can't get enough of it, right?

01:33:59.840 So it is amazing if you just go back 10 years or 15 years, how desperately different the

01:34:04.500 messaging is, even from far left liberals on this issue.

01:34:07.420 Yeah, it's not like they changed, like they actually changed what they wanted since 2012,

01:34:11.000 but Trump came along and like you said, the message became something that was tied to

01:34:15.500 people like us. So they had to say, actually, this is good. And that was a, that, I know people

01:34:21.260 don't believe it, but that was a bad thing for the Democrats. Like it's bad for them to

01:34:25.720 have to try to defend this stuff. So when you do their job for them by going on Fox and saying

01:34:30.940 dumb things, it's, it's bad. That's a bad thing to do. And we don't like our patrons behaving

01:34:35.760 that way. That's what this is about. It's not about, oh, MAGA is dead or whatever. No,

01:34:40.480 it's about what do we want from this guy? And then we're telling you, we don't want to hear

01:34:46.460 more shit about H1Bs. Right. And remember that also, obviously there is, you know,

01:34:52.560 the Trump era will end and he will hand this off to someone. And that's what's so much about all

01:34:57.580 this conservative symbol war and infighting and running around trying to cancel everyone at the

01:35:02.260 Heritage Foundation or ISI or all of these places. Like so much of that is the current battle for the,

01:35:09.720 for the future of the Republican party. So we need to make it clear that the only acceptable future

01:35:14.740 for the Republican party is immigration restrictionism. Full stop. Like we have to

01:35:20.480 make it clear that whoever takes over and it's probably JD Vance, but whoever takes over, they

01:35:25.600 must have this hard line. Like JD Vance needs to be three times more radical on this than Trump was

01:35:31.560 when Trump was being labeled a radical on this in 2015. Like that's what we want to see. That's

01:35:37.260 the winning direction. We have to make sure that that is clear. All right, guys, we're going to go

01:35:41.980 ahead. Oh, sorry. Go ahead. I just will say someone in chat, someone in chat said, you know,

01:35:45.700 like, are you saying trust the plan? But you know, if, if we were thinking back to when trust the plan

01:35:50.780 became a meme, that was in 2020 when, when Q people were saying, I don't worry about what you're

01:35:55.800 seeing in front of you just to secretly, you know, there's a plan and we're going to, we're going to

01:36:00.460 win everything through that. And like people say, trust the plan ironically now as a joke, but it never

01:36:06.460 was something that was genuine. No, you don't trust, never trust the plan that never do that.

01:36:11.400 That's not how politics work. You can, you can trust somebody to execute things that you want

01:36:17.260 out of them, but you don't ever just trust the plan from, from a person who is paid to lie to people

01:36:24.040 for their entire life. Well, we've come up with our own version of trust, but verify, right? It's

01:36:29.060 trust the plan, right? That's that, that, that's the, you know, we, we don't trust, but verify we

01:36:34.080 verify by chimping. So we, we have, you know, we, we have both. You can both maintain your support

01:36:39.440 for Trump and, and, and, uh, his movement and his MAGA movement while also saying, we're not going

01:36:44.040 to sit quietly when things get messed up, when they're doing the wrong thing. You, you can do

01:36:49.020 both. You, the options are not blindly support Trump and never ask any questions or completely

01:36:55.460 denounce him. And then like jump on the Kamala Harris train, like people acting like those are the

01:37:00.600 only two options. It's dumb. It's stupid. It's divisive. Uh, it's, and it's suicidal. So no,

01:37:05.840 we're, we're not going that way. We, we will trust the plan, but we will chimp accordingly when

01:37:10.280 necessary. All right, guys, we're going to wrap this up as always love talking to the good old

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The Auron MacIntyre Show - November 14, 2025

Trump Messaging Disaster Puts MAGA on Shaky Ground ｜ Guest： The Good Ol Boyz ｜ 11⧸14⧸25

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