The Auron MacIntyre Show - Trump-Proofing the Deep State ｜ 9⧸20⧸23

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00:00:37.280 So a lot has happened in the last few days,

00:00:39.800 and this one is going to be a little more of a catch-up.

00:00:42.620 Usually I kind of spend an entire episode on one topic,

00:00:46.640 but today there is so much going on,

00:00:48.560 so many stories that I wanted to comment on,

00:00:50.980 that I figured I'd go through a couple different ones here.

00:00:53.880 So the first one I want to talk about real quick

00:00:56.380 is of course everything that's happening with Russell Brand.

00:00:59.340 And for anyone who happened to miss it,

00:01:01.520 Russell Brand has been out there talking a lot about kind of what's going on with the pandemic,

00:01:08.000 what might be going on with large pharmaceutical companies,

00:01:12.120 what might be happening with the war in Ukraine.

00:01:14.040 A lot of things that really you're not supposed to talk about.

00:01:18.060 Many times he's had to move over, I think, from YouTube to Rumble due to the amount of censorship

00:01:22.820 that's been happening around the things that he's been talking about.

00:01:26.440 Now, Brand's kind of an interesting character because he's obviously very left.

00:01:30.320 Like he's obviously pretty progressive in a lot of areas,

00:01:34.240 but he has had some very interesting conversations.

00:01:36.700 I've found his podcast with people like Jordan Peterson to be interesting.

00:01:42.160 And so it's been really odd to watch his journey here,

00:01:47.020 to kind of watch the way that he has moved from one position to another.

00:01:50.940 Because again, he was somebody who was very Hollywood comedian,

00:01:54.040 incredibly progressive left wing.

00:01:56.440 And I wouldn't say he's on the right at all yet or at all,

00:02:00.420 but I would say that he is definitely asking questions that are making people uncomfortable.

00:02:04.940 So it's been very interesting here that recently Brand has been accused of sexual harassment

00:02:11.540 and even possibly rape.

00:02:13.340 There have been four, I believe, accusations that have come out.

00:02:17.000 One from a girl who was as young as even 16 during the time of the alleged incident.

00:02:22.360 And they're all claiming that Russell Brand had very inappropriate behavior.

00:02:27.100 This has prompted others to kind of come up with their stories about Brand

00:02:31.320 and kind of how he interacts.

00:02:33.260 And the really interesting thing is that YouTube has preemptively demonetized Brand.

00:02:39.860 So even though we have nothing but these accusations, which are anonymous, by the way,

00:02:44.440 and we don't have any evidence, there's been no due process,

00:02:47.100 there's been no charges, no kind of legal action filed at all,

00:02:52.840 YouTube has decided to go ahead and kind of basically take all of the monetization options

00:02:58.960 away from Brand, make sure he can't make money on his YouTube channel.

00:03:02.440 So there's a bunch of different things that I think that we should consider

00:03:04.920 when we kind of look at this situation.

00:03:07.020 The very first thing is the likelihood of Brand being involved in these things in the first place.

00:03:13.760 I've seen a lot of conservatives jump to defend Brand.

00:03:17.900 A lot of people saying, oh, we got to stand up for Brand now.

00:03:21.240 I hear what they're saying.

00:03:22.420 And in the free speech arena, I'm going to agree with them.

00:03:25.520 But a lot of them are stepping up and saying, oh, well, he is only,

00:03:28.900 these are all false accusations because of the things that he has now said,

00:03:33.200 the positions he has now taken.

00:03:34.440 He's now taking edgy positions.

00:03:36.180 He's now taking more right-wing positions.

00:03:37.820 He's now taking more dangerous positions.

00:03:40.480 And this is why he's being hit with all these allegations.

00:03:42.840 Now, I'm sure that that's true, that that's why these allegations have surfaced now.

00:03:48.540 But I think it's dangerous to assume that these just aren't true.

00:03:51.800 I mean, look, Russell Brand is, let's be honest, he doesn't seem like a great guy.

00:03:56.420 He seems like somebody who's had a past.

00:03:58.560 Look, we've all had a past.

00:03:59.800 None of us are perfect.

00:04:01.060 We're all sinners, you know.

00:04:02.500 But it feels like Brand is the kind of guy who could definitely have done some of these things.

00:04:07.680 He's somebody who used drugs a lot.

00:04:09.220 He's somebody who has put himself in a lot of very, you know, questionable situations.

00:04:14.840 Now, I don't know.

00:04:15.640 I have no clue.

00:04:16.900 I am saving my judgment entirely, you know, for kind of what information comes out.

00:04:22.920 But I'm just saying this is not maybe the guy to cartwheel in front of,

00:04:26.040 to kind of put your personal credibility on the line for.

00:04:30.180 Brand doesn't even really agree with you.

00:04:32.300 That's kind of the next thing.

00:04:33.320 You know, I did this whole stream about Bill Maher and how conservatives love to dive in front of Bill Maher,

00:04:39.060 even though Bill Maher hates their guts.

00:04:41.280 And then they just can't stop, you know, praising Bill Maher for keeping it real and telling the truth against the wacky left

00:04:48.160 while he goes around and hates Christians and slanders everybody.

00:04:53.320 And it feels like kind of a similar thing is happening here with Russell Brand.

00:04:56.660 Conservatives are so desperate for somebody to cool to like them, right?

00:05:00.700 Like they're just so desperate for somebody cool to really like be on their side.

00:05:05.820 But I think it's pretty obvious that, you know, Brand, while he might share some current concerns about, again,

00:05:12.680 you know, the war in Ukraine or kind of what's going on with Big Pharma,

00:05:18.180 while he might be speaking some of those truths, and I support him to the level that he's doing it,

00:05:23.040 I think he's valuable to the level that he's doing that.

00:05:25.400 I don't think that in general, Brand is on your side.

00:05:28.280 And so you don't need to dive in front of this guy.

00:05:30.720 People, especially mainstream conservatives, they love to cancel people to their right,

00:05:35.620 but they love to defend and embrace people to their left, right?

00:05:38.960 And the same, which is also true of the left.

00:05:40.840 So we're always open to the left.

00:05:42.860 We're always have dialogue with the left.

00:05:44.700 We're always, you know, defending the left,

00:05:47.580 but we're always canceling to our right.

00:05:49.660 And this is just a perfect example.

00:05:51.700 You know, Brand is not on your team for most of these things.

00:05:54.940 Again, when he says things that you like, when he says things that are edgy,

00:05:58.520 that are pushing back, that are dangerous, you know,

00:06:01.100 because they challenge the preferred narrative, by all means, you know,

00:06:04.820 that you can go ahead and work with that.

00:06:06.640 That's good that he's opening people's minds up to this.

00:06:08.920 But let's not confuse this with an ally.

00:06:11.080 And let's not put our kind of personal reputations,

00:06:14.940 our credibility on the line, defending somebody who very well might have done that.

00:06:19.440 And that's kind of the next thing I want to talk about is,

00:06:21.440 you know, if these things did occur, and again, I have no clue one way or the other.

00:06:25.460 I really don't.

00:06:26.520 But if these things did occur, that knowledge has been out there for a long time, right?

00:06:31.140 That these incidents have been known, they've been circulating.

00:06:35.120 There's no way that they're current, you know,

00:06:37.720 that they've currently just arisen due to a complete, you know, accident.

00:06:41.860 They didn't just come out of nowhere.

00:06:43.500 People have known in these circles.

00:06:45.140 People have talked about them.

00:06:46.520 Journalists have looked into them.

00:06:48.280 You know, the rumors have been around Hollywood.

00:06:50.440 This stuff has been known.

00:06:52.440 So yes, it's absolutely coming up for a reason.

00:06:56.020 But that's a really interesting dynamic to think about.

00:06:58.480 If these things are true, then for many, many years,

00:07:01.840 because these allegations are made over the space of like seven years, I believe.

00:07:05.580 For many, many years, that means that a lot of people who are in the know about this stuff

00:07:10.000 covered it up.

00:07:11.540 They actively kept it under wraps.

00:07:13.680 And that's a thing that obviously the regime can do for you, right?

00:07:16.940 We only have to look at Jeffrey Epstein.

00:07:18.940 Like, I understand how this works, right?

00:07:20.980 If you stay on the right side of things, then they'll probably disappear a guy like Epstein

00:07:25.840 to make sure that the things that you have done stay hidden.

00:07:29.340 But if you go off the reservation, all of these, you know, forbidden fruits that you've sampled,

00:07:35.220 all of these extremely transgressive actions that you've taken, all of a sudden, you know,

00:07:40.360 they can be revealed.

00:07:41.860 That's how the blackmail game works, right?

00:07:44.020 You get people to buy in.

00:07:45.920 It's one of the most classic, you know, kind of intelligence things to do.

00:07:50.180 Get people to buy into really risky, morally questionable, just degenerate behavior,

00:07:55.720 and then hold that evidence over their head, right?

00:07:58.680 If any moment they say something that's wrong, they do something that's wrong,

00:08:02.600 that can be revealed.

00:08:03.700 That very well could have been the case with Brandt here.

00:08:06.160 That very well could have been what happened, that these things were known in Hollywood.

00:08:10.720 These are things that are accepted in Hollywood.

00:08:12.280 And let's be honest, we know these things go on in Hollywood all the time.

00:08:15.800 That's part of kind of what happened with this whole Me Too thing, right?

00:08:18.640 Was that some of that leaked out, but nothing near what was there actually leaked out.

00:08:24.140 None of that stuff has stopped, to be really clear.

00:08:26.640 Hollywood is still allowing this stuff.

00:08:28.580 They're still protecting this stuff.

00:08:29.840 They're still promoting this stuff.

00:08:31.180 And so the fact that, you know, that this went on and that this was protected

00:08:35.640 while Brandt was on the reservation, I think is pretty obvious,

00:08:39.880 which means that when he steps off of it, all of a sudden there's this blackmail material

00:08:44.400 that can be presented to the people.

00:08:47.060 So again, when he is speaking out against really bad things,

00:08:51.040 when he's speaking out against the corruption and the lies that surround many of the things

00:08:55.580 like big pharma, kind of the current efforts of pushing us into war with Russia,

00:09:01.840 that's fine.

00:09:02.500 It's okay to speak out and to agree and to amplify those things.

00:09:06.700 But just, again, don't blind yourself to the fact of like who this guy is

00:09:11.640 and what team he's really on.

00:09:12.820 I mean, he was on Bill Maher a couple months ago, I think.

00:09:15.900 And, you know, he was talking about all this stuff.

00:09:17.940 He's talking about how the left has gone crazy.

00:09:20.160 He's kind of doing the routine.

00:09:21.880 And then what's his answer to all this?

00:09:23.380 He says, well, everyone should just vote for Bernie Sanders because Bernie Sanders

00:09:26.400 was on the panel, right?

00:09:27.840 So this is a guy who's not thinking very deeply about kind of the implications

00:09:33.260 of the threads he's pulling.

00:09:34.440 He's pulling threads, which is good.

00:09:35.960 It's good to have those guys out there pulling the threads, you know,

00:09:38.580 getting people kind of figuring out what's going on.

00:09:41.420 Hey, who's this famous guy that he used to like?

00:09:43.420 What's he talking about?

00:09:45.120 Like, that's a valuable thing.

00:09:46.540 But understand that his solution is just to hand things over to Bernie Sanders,

00:09:50.380 who's obviously just controlled opposition for the Democratic Party ever since,

00:09:54.900 you know, they stole an election from him.

00:09:57.260 He just completely, you know, made himself the submissive of the Democratic Party.

00:10:01.860 And now they just use him as this like boogeyman of the far left.

00:10:06.820 Oh, yeah.

00:10:07.600 Bernie Sanders out there.

00:10:08.840 He's got real radical reform, you know, as he acquires the next lake house from campaign donations.

00:10:14.500 So just, you know, just keep that in mind.

00:10:16.760 Now, the last thing to talk about here is, of course, probably the most important part,

00:10:19.880 which is the YouTube aspect of this.

00:10:22.900 It is the fact that YouTube has preemptively canceled brand.

00:10:27.480 They have preemptively demonetized brand.

00:10:29.700 Now, of course, we know that demonetization is not the same as being banned,

00:10:33.460 but it is very close, right?

00:10:35.580 Because demonetization wrecks you in the algorithm.

00:10:38.460 So it makes your reach much less, you're far less likely to get reach, far less likely to have a larger audience,

00:10:44.060 to get suggested in the algorithm, that kind of thing.

00:10:47.720 And, of course, most importantly, it keeps you from making money.

00:10:50.520 Now, Brand's a wealthy individual, you know, so who knows how dependent he was on the stream of that.

00:10:55.460 But, of course, remember, these things trickle down.

00:10:58.100 So, you know, this was, remember, the original thing that this kind of happened with is somebody like Alex Jones,

00:11:02.780 where they just nuke him off all these platforms,

00:11:05.040 and he becomes kind of the canary in the coal mine for what can happen.

00:11:08.800 Where Brand is a far more high-profile target, right?

00:11:11.460 This is a major movie star, major comedian, a major celebrity,

00:11:15.360 well-liked by the talk show circuits, you know, all that stuff.

00:11:18.400 This is a guy who's a very public persona.

00:11:21.360 You know, he dated starlets.

00:11:22.700 He went out with people like Katy Perry.

00:11:24.140 This is somebody who's in the public conversation,

00:11:26.820 not just some crazy thing that your, you know, boomer uncle, you know, would send in emails to people.

00:11:32.020 Like, this is somebody who people know very well.

00:11:35.520 And so when a guy like that gets demonetized off YouTube, that means something.

00:11:40.120 That means that there's not really a whole lot of barriers left, social barriers.

00:11:44.500 Of course, there were no legal barriers.

00:11:45.960 YouTube could always do this if they wanted to, unfortunately.

00:11:50.100 But these social barriers of like, okay, we still have,

00:11:52.920 we might have the technical ability, we might have the legal ability,

00:11:56.160 but we have to be careful about who we pull off of the screen

00:11:59.400 because people might notice the way that we are expressing our power.

00:12:03.200 That is kind of gone.

00:12:04.360 And that's very scary because that means that YouTube

00:12:06.220 now feels like they can demonetize anyone for virtually any reason.

00:12:10.340 Again, that was always true due to the way they crafted the terms of service.

00:12:13.880 The terms of service are specifically designed

00:12:15.980 to make political cancellation very easy,

00:12:19.540 effortless without any real substantive kind of process.

00:12:23.580 It's supposed to look managerial from the outside.

00:12:26.340 It's supposed to look like there's a process supposed to look like there are concrete rules,

00:12:29.720 but there are no real concrete rules.

00:12:31.340 There's nothing that said like, if someone somewhere makes an anonymous accusation,

00:12:36.520 we are required to remove your monetization.

00:12:38.900 They just did it because brands hope high profile.

00:12:41.600 He's saying things they don't like, and they could,

00:12:43.680 they could, they felt like they could get away with it.

00:12:45.640 And so with this new development, you kind of have this constant ability.

00:12:50.320 You know, we assume in many ways that our ability to make money is a natural right, right?

00:12:57.160 It's something that we have as a person functioning in society

00:13:00.820 that the government should not be able to interfere with

00:13:04.220 unless there's an actual criminal action, right?

00:13:07.380 There's an actual criminal charge.

00:13:09.360 But the thing is with this new melding of kind of the private and the public sector,

00:13:14.800 the way that these things work,

00:13:16.060 if you speak out against the regime, if you speak out against the government program,

00:13:20.520 then the private company who is completely on board with everything that the government is doing

00:13:25.880 and wants to reinforce that message can go ahead and punish you for that.

00:13:29.780 And technically, no amendments have been violated.

00:13:33.540 No constitutional protections have been violated.

00:13:36.100 And the, you know, the, the private corporation has the benefit of not having to go through due process,

00:13:40.620 not having to forge any legal counsel,

00:13:42.540 not having to do any of the things that otherwise would be part of your rights and protections

00:13:47.280 as a citizen of the United States or resident of the United States or whatever.

00:13:51.280 And so that means that people like Brandon can just be canceled,

00:13:54.040 can just be, you know, removed from platforms or significantly hit,

00:13:58.100 you know, knock down the algorithm, demonetized,

00:14:00.900 make it so they can't make money, you know, on these platforms.

00:14:03.760 And that kind of, you know, can, can censor them without any real,

00:14:08.500 no real accusation has been made.

00:14:11.080 No, no police report.

00:14:12.900 No one has to put their reputation on the line.

00:14:15.180 Someone just makes an anonymous accusation in a magazine somewhere.

00:14:18.460 And this implies it.

00:14:19.580 Now, again, with brand,

00:14:21.000 I'm kind of inclined to believe that this probably did happen somewhere along the line,

00:14:24.700 but I don't know that.

00:14:26.500 They don't know that.

00:14:27.240 And they totally should not have the right to go ahead and apply this to somebody who has

00:14:32.360 and had no real evidence brought against him.

00:14:35.120 But of course, he's saying the wrong things.

00:14:36.860 He's pissing off the wrong people.

00:14:38.580 And because YouTube works hand in hand,

00:14:41.240 like all these large social media companies with the government,

00:14:44.200 we know this from the Twitter files,

00:14:46.040 they are more than happy to oblige.

00:14:47.820 Now, that speaks to the need for alternatives.

00:14:50.500 You need places like Rumble.

00:14:51.900 You need places like Odyssey.

00:14:53.620 You need to have things like Blaze TV where people can still have that.

00:14:56.540 But remember, these are not the biggest megaphones, right?

00:14:58.920 As long as as much as all of those platforms are essential

00:15:01.680 and you should follow content creators there

00:15:04.200 and you should, you know, be plugged into news and have alternatives there.

00:15:08.800 Those things are not the biggest megaphones, right?

00:15:10.660 And while they're essential,

00:15:12.760 they're never going to have the reach that something like YouTube has.

00:15:15.340 They're never going to have the reach of, you know, of a Twitter, a Facebook,

00:15:18.180 like these mainstream, large scale platforms

00:15:21.760 that continue to be able to just have massive reach everywhere.

00:15:25.620 And so even though you should have those things,

00:15:28.500 you should have that option.

00:15:29.520 It's good that they exist.

00:15:30.820 You can't just assume that those are sufficient

00:15:34.080 because they're not reaching everybody.

00:15:35.800 You're always going to have some aspect of preaching to the choir in those scenarios.

00:15:39.240 And so you really have to make sure that there's still the ability

00:15:41.800 of people to have presence on these mainstream platforms.

00:15:45.300 All right, guys, we're going to talk about a couple different things,

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00:17:21.080 All right, so the next story that I wanted to talk about is the idea that the Chicago mayor

00:17:26.680 has decided that the best way to solve the problems that they have in Chicago

00:17:31.780 is to start having government-owned, city-owned grocery stores inside Chicago.

00:17:38.040 Now, of course, Chicago, like so many of these urban areas,

00:17:42.020 so many of these areas with high crime,

00:17:44.480 is experiencing what is unfortunately a very regular phenomenon,

00:17:48.360 which is that these companies are just fleeing.

00:17:51.080 They're just leaving, right?

00:17:52.400 They're getting out of there.

00:17:53.780 Why?

00:17:54.140 Well, because they can't operate.

00:17:55.960 The areas around them are dangerous.

00:17:59.040 They're dirty.

00:18:00.500 They see a high degree of shoplifting.

00:18:03.240 They see a high degree of vagrancy outside, drug usage,

00:18:06.840 other crimes that scare away clientele that otherwise would be,

00:18:09.680 you know, patronizing the store.

00:18:12.340 And they have a huge problem with trying to consistently stay opium and stay profitable in the area.

00:18:18.720 Now, despite the fact that many of these companies continue to operate in Chicago,

00:18:25.200 you know, without any real profit,

00:18:28.120 they've just had to slowly close their stores.

00:18:30.800 For instance, there was one Whole Foods that was operating in Chicago,

00:18:35.180 but apparently they were having trouble, you know, getting customers in.

00:18:39.020 They tried to keep their prices low, but they couldn't do the amount of theft and that kind of thing,

00:18:42.940 which meant that people in the community who were not wealthy, you know,

00:18:46.360 Whole Foods is expensive for me to shop at.

00:18:48.500 So if you're somebody who has, you know, an economically depressed part of Chicago,

00:18:51.820 you're probably not going to be able to regularly shop at Whole Foods.

00:18:55.320 And it just became less and less tenable of that on top of all of the loss from shoplifting,

00:19:02.120 the possibility of violence in the area.

00:19:04.540 That just means that they eventually had to vacate the area.

00:19:07.740 But of course, this creates community outrage.

00:19:10.200 Now, is the community outrage over the fact that crime is extremely high?

00:19:14.240 No, of course not.

00:19:15.040 Are they outraged that the police are not enforcing shoplifting law and, you know,

00:19:20.600 that they're not making the area safe for people to come in and spend their money

00:19:24.120 and kind of increase the quality of the area?

00:19:26.880 No, they're not angry at any of that.

00:19:28.560 They're angry at the store for leaving because what was coming in was like a save a lot, right?

00:19:33.060 Which is a discount store.

00:19:35.340 It's one that doesn't really have the same quality of food.

00:19:38.460 You're going to get a lot more Funyuns and a lot less kind of fresh produce in a store like that.

00:19:43.480 Now, you can still make healthy choices in a save a lot.

00:19:45.980 You know, that's, I think, something that's overplayed very often by the left.

00:19:50.520 The idea that you don't have any healthy food in these places because they're angling for a lower socioeconomic status. 0.80

00:19:59.440 But I think you can still make healthy choices inside that.

00:20:01.860 You can still buy chicken breasts.

00:20:02.920 You can still buy white rice.

00:20:04.040 You can still buy vegetables.

00:20:05.080 But it is true that there will be fewer healthy options, fresh food options in that area.

00:20:10.660 And so there are a lot of people who are very angry about this.

00:20:13.780 And this is where we get the leftist notion of the food desert, right?

00:20:17.040 They're creating a food desert.

00:20:18.760 They're fleeing it.

00:20:19.400 Now, of course, the left says, oh, they're fleeing it because they're poor and there's minorities and they just don't want to be there.

00:20:26.020 But, of course, they're fleeing it because of the real world implications of the policies being applied here.

00:20:32.400 Look, if there's consistently crime in an area, if there's consistently high levels of shoplifting and the liberal progressive politicians have decided that they cannot police that specifically because of the minority percentage inside a given neighborhood and because that'll look bad on the news, because that'll look bad on their statistics, because they're worried about the implications of policing that particular community.

00:20:56.720 Well, that is a situation that is manufactured by the city, by the politics, by the decisions around what they see as demographics in that area has nothing to do with the choices of the grocery store itself.

00:21:10.120 And so the only solution, of course, is not to increase policing.

00:21:15.200 It's not to get honest about the kind of situation inside the community.

00:21:20.640 It's not about enforcing kind of that broken windows policing of small things like shoplifting that seem small, but eventually grow into much more dangerous and difficult things.

00:21:31.440 No, we're not going to address any of that.

00:21:33.020 Instead, what are we going to do?

00:21:34.380 We're going to create government stores, right?

00:21:36.000 We're just going to do communism, basically.

00:21:37.640 We're going to create bread lines, but let's be honest, like, who knows if even if these stores will work?

00:21:42.600 OK, so the government goes in, they open up these stores.

00:21:45.320 But if these areas were already high in crime, if they are already having shoplifting problems, are these government stores, are they going to be, what, protected by the police, by the National Guard?

00:21:55.380 Why are these going to be any more resilient to those issues?

00:21:58.780 OK, maybe they could have fresher food, a lower price.

00:22:01.700 You're hoping to subsidize all of that.

00:22:03.380 I guess that could work for a while.

00:22:04.860 But again, if you have a persistent problem of crime in the area that you refuse to address, then this is eventually just doomed to failure.

00:22:12.180 And that's kind of where we are as a society right now.

00:22:15.160 We would rather embrace the known failed solutions of previous communist regime than we would actually like to look at the real understandable issues that are happening inside these communities.

00:22:27.580 There is a crime problem.

00:22:29.000 There's a crime problem for many different reasons.

00:22:31.680 But if you're not willing to address it because you're worried about how it will look, if you're worried about how what demographics might be reflected inside and arrest inside that community, then you are just dooming yourself to continued failed policies.

00:22:44.180 And all you have left to do is continue to blame the government or to continue to blame corporations instead of getting honest about what's really going on.

00:22:53.900 All right. I wanted to go ahead and take a look at another celebrity here. 1.00

00:22:57.520 Let me go ahead and bring up the video of Louis C.K.

00:23:01.760 So Louis C.K. was on the Joe Rogan show here recently.

00:23:06.220 I'm going to make this a little larger so you can actually see what's going on here.

00:23:09.960 Louis C.K. was on the Joe Rogan show here recently.

00:23:13.240 And he had this to say about how America should be interacting with immigrants.

00:23:18.880 But my feeling is they should open it.

00:23:22.100 The border is let them pour it, let everybody pour in. 0.95

00:23:25.120 And and then the answer, which is, well, then there will be all these problems.

00:23:28.900 Yes, there should be.

00:23:30.180 It shouldn't be so great here is what I'm saying in America.

00:23:34.200 It shouldn't be. It's a weird thing to sequester a certain group of people and try to keep upping their lifespan and their lifestyle.

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00:23:46.940 When your famous grainy mustard potato salad isn't so famous without the grainy mustard.

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00:24:13.480 So what Lucy Kaye here has is a problem with the idea of a nation, right?

00:24:20.200 That's literally what he's arguing against.

00:24:22.040 It's weird that we would separate some portion of, you know, the entire population of the world

00:24:29.120 and work for their betterment and not just the betterment of every human being who ever wanted to be here.

00:24:34.840 And so his only solution is open borders, right?

00:24:37.940 The only solution is open borders.

00:24:40.160 Why?

00:24:40.460 Well, because we deserve it.

00:24:42.280 We deserve open borders.

00:24:43.800 We should be punished.

00:24:44.720 We should not have this level of prosperity.

00:24:47.960 We should not be having higher lifespans.

00:24:49.740 We need to bring everything in and we need to equalize everything.

00:24:53.680 And this is just kind of the sinister nature of progressivism in a nutshell, right?

00:25:00.340 Because everyone, everything must be equal.

00:25:02.980 We talk, oh, it's about equality.

00:25:04.880 It's never about equality.

00:25:06.120 It's always about equity.

00:25:07.940 You'll always end up here because there is no justification in liberalism at the end of the day for inequality.

00:25:15.540 There is no explanation for inequality.

00:25:17.920 Therefore, there is no justification for inequality.

00:25:20.960 And so the logical conclusion of liberalism is always this version of, you know, radical progressivism, you know, neo-Marxism, kind of whatever you want to call this, communism, whatever you want to call this.

00:25:32.340 It's always this in-state where we are not allowed to have borders.

00:25:37.580 We are not allowed to have a division of kind of how, you know, our world is ordered because it will prefer some groups and it will always be, you know, deleterious to other groups.

00:25:50.800 And so that's what he's saying, right?

00:25:51.780 We should just be allowing this.

00:25:53.220 I'll play a little more.

00:25:54.740 And just keep trying to increase that for this group of people.

00:25:57.340 And then everyone's and then this pressure of people trying to come in so they can enjoy it.

00:26:01.620 And then it gets worse and worse down here.

00:26:03.780 I mean, I'm not in Canada.

00:26:05.400 It's really just from down here.

00:26:07.940 There's something wrong with that.

00:26:09.120 That's not a system that's working.

00:26:11.120 And it forces people to do cruel things to other people.

00:26:14.740 There's a lot of people that die so Americans can be safe.

00:26:17.940 They're just dying, you know, weddings that are drone bombed in Yemen because the guy said something that might have resulted in American insecurity.

00:26:30.880 Not even like definite American deaths, but like just so we can breathe a little easier.

00:26:35.760 Folks die and folks do labor in unsafe places. 0.73

00:26:40.060 So, Louis C.K. here is having a problem with the idea that you would have any national defense at all.

00:26:47.220 Now, look, there's plenty to say about the errors, the egregious nature of overreach, the expansion of mission of the U.S. empire when it came to the war on terror.

00:26:58.760 There are very fair points to be made about kind of the unnecessarity of many, many actions that have been taken by the U.S. when it comes to that.

00:27:08.700 So, I'm not defending that here.

00:27:10.580 But it's very clear that for Louis C.K., the idea that you would prefer your country and its safety over anyone anywhere in the world is a problem.

00:27:20.020 And this is a really big issue for all kinds of people, even people on the right in general.

00:27:25.820 Because, again, many people on the right who see themselves as classically liberal or even many Christians have a hard time explaining why it's legitimate for a nation or a people to prefer its own well-being over the well-being of others.

00:27:42.580 And that's what Louis C.K. can't do here, right?

00:27:45.400 James Burnham called liberalism the suicide – he said it would be the suicidal ideology of the West, right?

00:27:53.800 And the reason he said that was that liberalism strips out any allowance for particularity, any allowance that something might not be universal, any allowance for why you might prefer one thing over another, which makes it impossible for you to defend anything.

00:28:10.400 Because everything's up for debate, everything's up for discussion, everything is always vulnerable to critique and being broken down.

00:28:21.040 And so there's never a hard limit.

00:28:23.960 There's never these axioms of, like, this is who we are and this is who we protect and this is who we defend no matter what.

00:28:30.240 And it doesn't matter kind of what you bring against it.

00:28:33.380 We will always kind of draw a line here, right?

00:28:37.440 That can't exist in liberalism.

00:28:39.520 And because it has no ability to do that, it has no ability to defend itself because there's no reason why you should prefer the liberal principles of openness and discussion and universality over any other principles.

00:28:51.680 It all just becomes relative.

00:28:53.360 Nothing is rooted in anything.

00:28:55.300 There's no tradition it's tied to.

00:28:56.940 There's no specific people it's tied to.

00:28:59.080 There's no specific land it's tied to.

00:29:00.760 It's all just, it could just, you know, it's this universal acid that destroys all bonds, all preferences, all moral, you know, kind of connection.

00:29:11.240 And so because of that, there's no reason for Louis C.K. to understand, like, why you would be able to prefer your own nation over someone else.

00:29:19.040 Why you would prefer that the quality of life for people in America would be better and you would prioritize that over just letting anyone from India or China or Mexico or Venezuela or Haiti or wherever into your nation and bringing down that. 0.99

00:29:36.160 Because that's what he's going to say here in a second.

00:29:37.680 He's going to realize the end point of this.

00:29:39.480 Here, I'll play the last little bit.

00:29:40.600 He's going to, he knows where this is going.

00:29:42.200 He understands the implications of what he's saying.

00:29:44.080 He's just okay with it.

00:29:45.040 Places so that we can keep the prices where we like them.

00:29:48.120 There's so much about American life that other people pay for.

00:29:51.760 That's part of it.

00:29:52.840 But also, it's not good for us either.

00:29:54.660 It's not a good way to live in a gated community, you know.

00:29:58.220 If you let folks pour in like any other way.

00:30:01.400 I want to be clear.

00:30:02.880 I'm the first one who's willing to relocate Louis C.K. to his favela of choice.

00:30:09.280 Since he is against gated communities, he is against protecting communities.

00:30:13.100 I think that it is essential.

00:30:15.700 Whenever neighborhood just lost its Whole Foods in Chicago, Louis C.K. should be required to live there for the remainder of his life.

00:30:23.920 Because he just doesn't believe in, you know, in gated communities.

00:30:27.700 He doesn't believe in, you know, in preferring, you know, kind of one area and, you know, differentiations between areas.

00:30:36.240 He doesn't think that should exist.

00:30:37.620 Ava, it'll kind of slosh.

00:30:39.540 And then y'all just, things will be different.

00:30:41.460 But I don't know, like, what'll really happen?

00:30:45.020 A bunch of people, like, will they just come with knives and start killing everybody?

00:30:48.680 I don't think so.

00:30:51.340 Well, so two things there.

00:30:53.600 First, like, of course, yeah, he's like, oh, well, you know, what are people going to just come over and be violent?

00:30:58.980 Well, yes.

00:30:59.820 Like, if you have a open border, you have no clue who's coming over it, obviously.

00:31:04.740 Like, that's the whole thing of what an open border means.

00:31:07.460 Now, will most of the people who come over not be violent?

00:31:11.300 Yeah, because, like, most people aren't deeply criminal.

00:31:14.680 But you will have no control over whether you have gang members coming over, whether you will have drug traffickers coming over, whether you'll have human traffickers coming over.

00:31:23.820 And, you know, there's all these terrible things that, you know, happen on the border right now.

00:31:28.580 You've been with all this restriction and policing or whatever level we have, but we don't have that much, to be honest.

00:31:34.380 When it comes to bringing people in here, you know, so all that will still occur, but it will happen at an even higher level.

00:31:41.320 So will that happen?

00:31:42.160 Yes, of course it will, Louis.

00:31:43.500 But very specifically, if nothing else, the very terrorists, you know, that came over on something like 9-11, I mean, they came over with passports, right?

00:31:51.100 They came over with visas in many ways.

00:31:53.260 That's how they were able to circumvent this thing.

00:31:55.040 But that kind of thing obviously will be more common.

00:31:57.640 It will be more open because there'll be no barrier.

00:32:00.060 So, yes, the very thing you're talking about will happen.

00:32:02.700 But on top of that, he kind of talks about how everything will just, you know, the tide will come in and then it'll go out and then everything will just kind of level off.

00:32:09.700 And this is the idea, right?

00:32:10.860 That is everything will eventually level.

00:32:12.700 And at some point, we'll reach this equilibrium where everything will be level and everything will be fine.

00:32:18.440 We'll reach this much desired equality, liberal equality.

00:32:22.920 And that will be the point at which everything will be great.

00:32:25.760 But, of course, that is not what is going to happen.

00:32:28.740 That's not what's going to happen.

00:32:30.120 Hierarchies will always exist. 0.95

00:32:33.000 They are part of nature, okay?

00:32:35.280 As soon as people have any level of ability to interact, one person acquires more than another.

00:32:41.820 One person holds down another.

00:32:44.080 One person is raised up.

00:32:45.840 Another person falls behind.

00:32:47.420 Sometimes through direct action by someone.

00:32:50.600 Sometimes by just the natural fact that some people are smarter.

00:32:54.180 They're more prudent.

00:32:55.600 They're more careful.

00:32:56.620 They're more thrifty.

00:32:57.480 They're more organized.

00:32:58.760 They're stronger.

00:32:59.440 Like, the truth is that people are not physically or mentally equal.

00:33:06.120 They might be equal before God.

00:33:08.160 We might all be equal in the sight of God.

00:33:10.720 But when it comes to the way that humans compete in the real world, they are never equal.

00:33:16.500 And so we will never have this eternal equilibrium where everyone is just equal.

00:33:21.600 And so what determines the quality of life of people is, like, how they organize.

00:33:26.700 And when people organize effectively, they create advantages for themselves and those who are part of the organization.

00:33:33.820 And when you do that with a nation, everything else goes up, right?

00:33:38.220 The whole nation can succeed.

00:33:40.300 But if you just let anyone into the nation, then you can't organize anymore because you're adding more than the organization can bear. 1.00

00:33:49.160 You're adding people who are unfamiliar with the organization, who don't share the same goals as the organization, who are unwilling to work towards, you know, don't have the capacity to do the things required by the organization.

00:33:58.900 You are adding all kinds of variables that will eventually destroy what the organization has built.

00:34:04.420 But, of course, Louis Suquet, again, he's just temporarily embarrassed liberal, right?

00:34:09.260 He's just, you know, I have these massive advantages.

00:34:12.460 I'm rich.

00:34:13.340 I live in these places.

00:34:14.800 And at the end of the day, I know I'm never going to lose enough to really get, like, kicked out of that stuff.

00:34:19.400 So, yeah, sure, open the borders.

00:34:20.860 Let everybody have whatever they want.

00:34:22.100 That's fine, right?

00:34:22.960 We deserve it at the end of the day.

00:34:24.280 Not me, personally.

00:34:25.260 Like, I'll still be safe.

00:34:26.320 I'll still be rich.

00:34:27.360 He's not giving away all of his money.

00:34:28.580 He's not letting all his kids be in, you know, dangerous situations or whatever.

00:34:32.100 But, you know, in theory, us in general, right, this abstract, we, the abstract, deserve it.

00:34:38.180 Not him specifically.

00:34:39.380 Never, of course.

00:34:40.180 But somewhere out in the red states, you deserve it.

00:34:42.340 And that's really what he's saying.

00:34:44.320 That's how all these border situations work, right?

00:34:46.720 That's why the New York mayor is now, you know, trying to rescind his sanctuary city statements.

00:34:52.420 Because it became clear that actually once the consequences of that stuff showed up, you know, it was fine when they were all sitting at the red states.

00:34:59.800 When they're sitting in, you know, Texas or Florida, it was fine to let as many immigrants come in as you want.

00:35:04.460 Because who cares?

00:35:05.100 They're not affecting you.

00:35:05.960 But now that they're showing up in, you know, your hometown, they're filling up your schools.

00:35:10.220 They're demanding things from your hospitals.

00:35:12.420 They're making your roads unnavigable.

00:35:15.220 Oh, all of a sudden, it's a problem, right?

00:35:16.740 All right.

00:35:17.740 One more here, guys.

00:35:19.260 Let's get to our main story, of course, which was Trump and the deep state.

00:35:25.020 So, up here real quick.

00:35:31.220 So, Donald Trump, obviously, was stifled by many of his attempts to kind of get policy enacted.

00:35:41.580 He had a large amount of problems trying to bring in personnel, trying to change the way that the government worked, trying to make policies happen.

00:35:50.040 This is something he ran to over and over and over again.

00:35:52.460 Now, I think a lot of people who have been looking at the government always knew that this was an issue, right?

00:35:58.260 That the federal bureaucracy, that the deeply entrenched kind of apparatchiks all throughout these different parts of the executive branch, the civil service, these things, they were not interested in just following the direction of whatever president happened to get elected.

00:36:15.460 Instead, they had a very specific agenda of what they wanted to do and how they thought the government should run.

00:36:20.460 That agenda was largely leftist.

00:36:23.060 It was largely progressive.

00:36:24.520 These are people who all went to the same colleges.

00:36:26.920 They all graduated from the same programs.

00:36:29.480 They all kind of watch the same TV shows, go to the same, you know, plays, concerts, those kind of things.

00:36:36.040 They all had the same culture.

00:36:37.260 And so, they all had an idea of how the country should be run.

00:36:39.640 So, whether a Republican or a Democrat was in power, at the end of the day, we were always moving towards this progressive direction.

00:36:46.840 Now, a lot of people today call this the deep state, right?

00:36:49.880 This idea of the deep state.

00:36:51.800 Curtis Yarvin called this the cathedral.

00:36:54.620 Whatever terminology you want to use for it, the left has been kind of doing this thing where it denies the existence of this but also celebrates the existence of this.

00:37:05.780 So, they're constantly saying, oh, the deep state, that's a conspiracy theory.

00:37:09.540 You're crazy.

00:37:10.180 How could you say that?

00:37:11.040 Of course not.

00:37:11.840 Of course, that's not how the government works.

00:37:13.220 Don't be ridiculous.

00:37:14.080 But at the same time, they constantly write stories like this where they basically acknowledge the existence of the deep state and its importance and its power.

00:37:22.440 And so, I want to read a little bit of this New York Times piece because it kind of reveals the way that two sides can look at the same issue.

00:37:31.500 The right looks at the deep state and says, this is terrible.

00:37:33.980 This is a disaster.

00:37:34.880 We have to figure out how to change this.

00:37:37.420 The left sees the right, recognize this advantage that it's had for decades, and it says, oh, no, they figured out the game.

00:37:43.980 We better lock it down, right?

00:37:45.540 And so, they're denying the existence of this bureaucratic monopoly.

00:37:50.040 They're denying the existence of this deep state while actively taking steps to protect it and kind of, you know, boasting about it in the New York Times.

00:37:58.860 So, let's go ahead and take a look at this piece real quick.

00:38:01.280 Quick, it's called, Biden administration aims to Trump-proof the federal workforce.

00:38:07.380 If Donald Trump wins a second term, he and his allies want to revive a plan to allow the president to fire civil service workers who are supposed to be hired on merit.

00:38:17.200 The Biden administration is trying to thwart it.

00:38:19.900 So, this piece took three people to write, which is kind of a joke, but journalism.

00:38:24.200 All right.

00:38:24.460 So, when President Biden took office, he swiftly canceled an executive order his predecessor, Donald Trump, had issued that could have enabled Trump to fire tens of thousands of federal workers and replace them with loyalists.

00:38:38.980 But Democrats never succeeded in enacting legislation to strengthen protections for the civil service system as a matter of law.

00:38:46.320 So, if you've been listening to my channel for a while, you know that I've talked about this a lot.

00:38:50.540 I've actually had Andrew Kloster on, who is somebody who is part of the Trump administration.

00:38:54.720 He was involved in staffing of the Trump administration.

00:38:57.940 They've been looking at this for a long time.

00:38:59.880 They started to understand, you know, as they went through, you wish they would have figured this out beforehand, but I understand no one thought Trump was going to win.

00:39:07.100 Trump didn't think Trump was going to win, let's be honest.

00:39:09.500 And so, they didn't have a plan in place.

00:39:11.520 But as kind of the administration wore on, they realized that it's not just policy, but personnel is policy, right?

00:39:17.720 In these positions, you can write all the white papers you want.

00:39:20.980 You can give all the instructions you can want.

00:39:24.500 You can set up all these standard operating procedures that you want.

00:39:27.740 But at the end of the day, if you don't have personnel that are interested in implementing the policy that you want to enact, then it simply won't happen.

00:39:36.300 And so, near the end of the administration, they start to figure out, okay, we need to figure out how to get rid of these entrenched people who are constantly blocking our ability to advance our policy goals.

00:39:47.100 And so, they came up with this idea called the Schedule F.

00:39:49.580 And the Schedule F was this executive order that was going to make it way, way more easy to fire a large swath of the government bureaucracy and put your own people in.

00:40:01.740 So, they're exactly right about, like, what the Trump administration wanted to do, right?

00:40:06.600 They want to take out the people who are loyal to the Democrats, and they want to replace them with the people that are loyal to the Republicans.

00:40:13.340 Now, the trick that they're going to keep trying to pull here is pretending that actually there's this thing called the civil service.

00:40:19.340 Now, I know the civil service exists, but my point is they're going to pretend that the civil service is inherently neutral.

00:40:24.360 And the people who are there are completely there based on merit, and not because they are, you know, diehard leftists who are loyal to the progressive ideology.

00:40:33.500 And so, removing them is removing all of these really well-qualified, meritoriously hired experts, and you're just taking them out and putting in a bunch of Trump flunkies.

00:40:44.120 But actually, what you're doing is you're just replacing one set of flunkies with another, because the truth is that anyone in these positions has an ideology, they're loyal to that ideology, and their willingness to do their job is going to be, you know, proportionate to kind of how loyal they are to their ideology and what, you know, kind of the ruling people, the people in charge are trying to push down.

00:41:05.620 And so, if you want to get anything done, you have to have the ability to replace personnel who are not going to do their jobs.

00:41:12.100 But, of course, they're going to portray that as some kind of sinister thing and something that has to be stopped, even though they would deny the existence of the deep state.

00:41:20.200 So now, with Mr. Trump seemingly poised to win the GOP nomination again, the Biden administration is instead trying to effectively Trump-proof civil service with a new regulation.

00:41:30.920 On Friday, the White House proposed a new rule that would make it more onerous to reinstate Trump's old executive order if Mr. Trump or a like-minded Republican wins in 2024.

00:41:41.960 So, interesting here, they're still worried about Trump, right, which is kind of interesting.

00:41:47.460 They've got him in this position where they're bringing all these charges against him.

00:41:52.400 He's going to be going through all these legal issues.

00:41:55.020 They're doing everything they can to make it as impossible as they can for Trump to actually become president of the United States again.

00:42:01.640 And yet, still, they are worried about what could happen.

00:42:05.500 Now, Ron DeSantis fans might say, oh, well, they're really worried about Ron DeSantis coming in.

00:42:09.460 He's a far more effective policy guy.

00:42:12.700 He's much better with the bureaucracy, making things happen.

00:42:15.240 He's much more willing to kind of make this happen.

00:42:18.020 Maybe that's the case.

00:42:18.820 I don't know.

00:42:19.280 I think they're naming it Trump for a reason.

00:42:21.160 I think they are more worried about Trump.

00:42:22.320 But either way, maybe they are worried about DeSantis, and DeSantis would be more effective in this way.

00:42:26.920 But that makes it all the more important for them to be able to lock this down.

00:42:30.840 But, of course, the problem is that this is all just executive orders, right?

00:42:34.560 Like I said, they were not able to secure in legislation the ability to basically protect these progressive jobs inside the deep state, inside the federal bureaucracy.

00:42:46.540 And so because of that, all they really have is just layers of executive orders and regulations.

00:42:51.180 But if anything can be done with the executive pin, then it can be undone with the executive pin as well, which means like the shifting possession of that pin is really all that matters.

00:43:01.340 And they're going to kind of realize that as we go on this article.

00:43:04.380 But Trump allies, who would most likely have senior roles in any second Trump administration, shrugged off the proposed Biden rule, saying that they could simply use the same rulemaking process, roll back the new regulation, and then proceed.

00:43:19.800 Legal experts agreed.

00:43:21.720 So, yeah, I mean, the whole point of the executive branch is that it's supposed to be run by the executive.

00:43:27.940 But that's the thing, right?

00:43:29.640 They are worried about managerial power has to reign supreme.

00:43:33.520 The oligarchy has to reign supreme. 0.98

00:43:35.820 You cannot have anything that is quasi-monarchical.

00:43:39.420 You cannot have anything that smells of one man who's able to cut the Gordian knot, even if it's only inside the constitutional purview that was specifically laid out by Article 1 for the executive.

00:43:52.600 You're still not allowed to have it even there.

00:43:55.380 And so what they want to do is wrap the executive in layers of bureaucracy.

00:43:59.280 They want to put the same restraints of, you know, kind of standard operating procedures and best practices and distributed power and managerialism around the president itself, even though the role is specifically designed to avoid that.

00:44:13.340 Look, the framers knew that you didn't want everything to be democratic.

00:44:16.860 You needed certain things like the military to be directly wielded by a single person, someone to cut through and have that executive power.

00:44:26.380 But as the country has grown, the executive branch has gone from one person wielding most of the power to a large, large, large mass of all these different departments or organizations and bureaucracies, each operating different parts of what has become basically the largest employer in the United States.

00:44:44.500 And because of that fact, the president has been more or less constrained in his executive power, even though technically under the Constitution, he should be able to wield it because we're really supposed to be run by experts, not people, right?

00:44:59.720 Not elected representatives.

00:45:01.300 That's the shift that we're really undergoing is that elected elected elected representatives are really a vestigial organ of our managerial state where where the where the experts are supposed to rule.

00:45:13.820 And so Congress cedes all of its real power over to these experts.

00:45:18.840 You know, the judicial branch more and more is conceding its power over to these experts.

00:45:22.580 The executive branch is doing that inside these organizations.

00:45:26.260 And so, you know, that's why they actually fear the judicial branch the most is it's the ones that is least captured by kind of all this distributed network.

00:45:34.220 It's harder to do that way.

00:45:35.440 But the point is that all of these branches eventually have to work the same way, which is they just wait for the experts to come down from on high and tell them the way they're actually supposed to do their jobs.

00:45:47.280 And so they want to find a way to constrain the power of the executive.

00:45:50.040 But they are having a problem because, well, the executive branch was specifically designed to not allow people to do that.

00:45:55.960 It was specifically designed for someone to have that prerogative and make those decisions.

00:46:01.180 That was literally how it was built in the Constitution.

00:46:04.300 And so that's really an issue for them.

00:46:06.600 The proposed rule addresses the move that Mr. Trump tried to make late in his presidency by issuing an executive order known as for shorthand as Schedule F, which I already told you about.

00:46:16.860 It would have empowered his administration to effectively transform any effectively transform many career federal employees who are supposed to be hired based on merit and cannot be arbitrarily fired into political appointees who can be hired and fired at will.

00:46:30.880 So, again, they're pretending that all these people in the civil service were just hired on merit.

00:46:36.560 You know, they're experts in their field.

00:46:39.640 They're neutral.

00:46:40.760 They're just trying to do their job.

00:46:42.200 But actually, all of their jobs have political implications.

00:46:45.100 That's why they're there.

00:46:46.220 They're government jobs.

00:46:48.340 They have a government official, an elected government official who is highly political in charge, in theory at least, the president.

00:46:55.440 And so they are politically charged jobs from the very beginning.

00:46:58.440 What the left is hoping for is basically that the progressivism becomes the null hypothesis, right?

00:47:06.640 The thing that you have to disprove.

00:47:08.760 So basically, everyone is inherently progressive.

00:47:12.800 That's what it means to be qualified, right?

00:47:14.820 That's how they do this because the colleges are all very left-leaning.

00:47:19.200 They're all very left-wing.

00:47:20.660 And so to become an expert, you must become a leftist.

00:47:27.220 And so that's the same thing.

00:47:28.940 And so in order to remove somebody, you must prove that they are unqualified.

00:47:33.740 But their qualification is their leftism, right?

00:47:36.640 And so they're saying, oh, all these people are qualified.

00:47:39.260 They're meritorious in their hiring.

00:47:41.560 And so they're not political appointees.

00:47:43.540 But of course, they're political appointees.

00:47:44.840 You've just made that political appointment the norm.

00:47:48.420 Career civil servants include professional staff across the government who stay on when the presidency changes hands.

00:47:53.800 This is what they mean when they talk about the deep state, right?

00:47:55.980 The president might come or go, but the guys deep in the bowels of the bureaucracy, they're going to be there for 30 years waiting for that pension check.

00:48:03.600 And they're the ones who are going to drive the government forward.

00:48:06.020 They vary widely, including law enforcement officers and technical experts at agencies that Congress created to make rules aimed at ensuring the air and water are clean, food, drugs, and consumer products are safe.

00:48:22.140 So again, that authority that was vested in Congress is handed over to these agents.

00:48:27.060 And so it's no longer elected officials making that, but all of that power that once used to exist inside the Congress and elected officials is now handed over to these experts who are unaccountable, who are not elected, who have no connection to the people, who can't get fired, you know, because, again, they're meritoriously hired, right?

00:48:47.120 That's the whole point, civil service protection.

00:48:50.100 And so they are safe to make their progressive policies with no real feedback or consequence from the voters.

00:48:58.120 Mr. Trump and senior advisors on his team came to believe the career officials who raised objections to their policies on legal or practical grounds, including some of their disputed immigration plans, were deliberately sabotaging their agenda, which, of course, they were, right? 0.98

00:49:10.680 These people were not just, oh, we'll just have practical concerns.

00:49:13.920 Yeah, but your practical concerns are that this disagrees with your own personal political preference.

00:49:20.140 So this happened all the time.

00:49:21.980 Portraying federal employees as unaccountable bureaucrats, which they were.

00:49:25.360 The Trump team has argued that removing job protections for those who have any influence over policymaking is justified because it's too difficult to fire them.

00:49:35.200 Yes, if you have a employee who specifically won't do the job you ask them to because it goes against their political leanings,

00:49:42.140 the only option is to fire them.

00:49:44.380 That's it.

00:49:45.180 Like, you can't just give them eternal jobs and expect them to be accountable.

00:49:48.900 If they can't get, if they're not hired or fired and they're not elected or removed, then there's no accountability at all.

00:49:55.000 And unaccountable people will do whatever they want, by definition.

00:49:58.020 That's how people work.

00:49:59.420 Critics saw the move as a throwback to the corrupt 19th century patronage system.

00:50:03.620 Shout out to the good old boys.

00:50:04.560 It's that patronage they're worried about when all federal jobs were partisan spoils rather than based on merit.

00:50:10.640 Now, again, this is a beautiful sentence because there's so much packed into this sentence, right?

00:50:15.940 In this sentence, there's the assumption that this is not already a spoil system,

00:50:21.000 that the left has not already handed out these positions based on a spoil system,

00:50:25.600 that these people are not already part of the progressive patronage machine because, of course, they are.

00:50:31.760 They went to schools that were progressive.

00:50:34.300 They got degrees that were progressive.

00:50:36.820 They majored in areas and became specialists in areas that were informed by progressive ideology.

00:50:44.100 And that ensured that they would get progressive jobs that they would hold in perpetuity.

00:50:48.540 So these people are already part of the patronage system.

00:50:51.280 They're already part of the spoil system.

00:50:53.060 What they're saying is we don't want you to have a spoil system.

00:50:56.140 Patronage is for us.

00:50:57.860 It's for our guys, not for your guys.

00:50:59.880 And so we want to cut off your ability to do this.

00:51:02.980 So I'm not going to read this whole thing because it just kind of goes more and more on to kind of what we've been talking here.

00:51:09.700 But basically, it's this just them saying, yeah, everything that Republicans are worried about,

00:51:14.540 all this deep state stuff, all this, you know, patronage network stuff, all this stuff they worry about.

00:51:19.520 Yeah, sure, it's all true, but it should only be for us.

00:51:22.680 Yeah, of course, it's real, but it's logical because our guys do it.

00:51:26.140 And so that's why it should continue to exist.

00:51:28.800 And so they realize the problem, right?

00:51:31.280 They realize what's going on here.

00:51:33.540 They understand that there's a little bit of danger in the fact that the right has finally recognized where the power really sits.

00:51:40.540 And so because the right's no longer playing this game where they just get into power and say,

00:51:44.240 oopsie daisy, we're here.

00:51:45.840 I guess we'll try to press some legislation.

00:51:47.300 Oh, nobody in the federal government did anything.

00:51:49.140 Yes, we've been voted out.

00:51:50.360 Okay.

00:51:50.580 Oh, now the left comes back in.

00:51:51.820 You guys just go back to making everything super progressive.

00:51:53.700 Now that the right has figured out that it's about personnel, that it's about the deep state, that it's about these patronage networks.

00:51:59.680 Now that the right is willing to play ball the same way that the left is, or at least some of the right is.

00:52:04.120 Most of the right, unfortunately, still does not recognize this.

00:52:06.560 We still have people fighting against this, National Review type folks.

00:52:09.480 But there is more of the right that understand this.

00:52:11.780 Certainly the Trump administration and people who are on it understand this.

00:52:14.700 And because of that, they want to get rid of this because that's a danger to their power.

00:52:18.540 That's a danger to their monopoly on what is politically effective.

00:52:22.520 And that's really the battle that people like me and others are fighting inside the conservative movement.

00:52:28.560 We're trying to explain to conservatives, sorry, but you have to be politically effective.

00:52:32.320 This game you play where you're like, oh, we're all our principles.

00:52:35.200 Don't let us do the things the left do.

00:52:36.860 That's not going to work.

00:52:37.860 Okay.

00:52:38.320 The left is winning because they have a patronage network.

00:52:41.120 The left is winning because they're willing to give people jobs and benefits.

00:52:44.400 The left is winning because they were willing to look at a specific group of people and say,

00:52:47.640 our existence, our winning benefits you.

00:52:51.540 And so you should be loyal to us because they're willing to do that.

00:52:54.280 They win in the long term, right?

00:52:55.880 Because they're willing to capture institutions to push things in their direction, even when

00:52:59.840 they're out of power, even when they're not elected.

00:53:02.820 That is why they continue to win.

00:53:05.420 And so people like me are trying to explain to many of these conservatives who are like,

00:53:09.460 oh, that's not our principles, man.

00:53:10.840 You know, elections and, you know, you never promise anyone anything and it's all about

00:53:14.880 marketplace of ideas.

00:53:16.240 And then, you know, you just keep winning elections and that's how the whole thing works.

00:53:20.020 No, it's not.

00:53:21.000 And so, and the Democrats know it's not, which is why they're worried and they're writing

00:53:24.880 articles like this because they're trying to keep, you know, the Trump administration

00:53:28.680 and those who might come after from actually understanding how the game is played.

00:53:33.000 All right, guys, got a couple of super chats here real quick.

00:53:35.220 So let's go over here.

00:53:36.260 In, uh, in hock, signo, Vince says, sorry, I need to, uh, up my Latin pronunciation game.

00:53:43.800 Hello, sir.

00:53:44.700 Uh, for 10, uh, pounds.

00:53:46.080 Thank you very much.

00:53:46.840 Uh, hello, sir.

00:53:47.540 Always miss your live streams.

00:53:48.860 Finally caught one.

00:53:49.820 Great as always.

00:53:50.880 Well, thank you very much, man.

00:53:51.920 I appreciate that.

00:53:52.720 Like, I know you're over in the UK there probably.

00:53:54.860 So, uh, you know, I was just over there a month ago or, uh, or so.

00:53:59.100 So it was very nice, but I understand time difference, everything.

00:54:01.940 It's hard to catch these guys.

00:54:02.940 Of course, I love the live streams.

00:54:04.480 I know a lot of you guys come here just to, to, to do the live streams, but of course,

00:54:09.120 a lot of people also, uh, watch on YouTube later.

00:54:12.100 They watch a rumble odyssey.

00:54:13.480 Uh, they listen on the podcast.

00:54:14.940 They watch on blaze TV.

00:54:16.020 And that's a really important part of the experience too.

00:54:18.520 Uh, I really appreciate you guys who are showing up there.

00:54:20.700 The podcast has, has grown to the size of YouTube channel or beyond it at this point.

00:54:24.980 So, so people are listening in all kinds of different ways, but of course, it's always great

00:54:28.420 to have you here live talking, interacting with the chat and everything like that.

00:54:32.240 So really appreciate it, man.

00:54:33.220 Uh, Bolero, uh, three, nine, three, uh, for $10.

00:54:36.840 Great to meet you and your buddy at the conference.

00:54:38.960 Yeah, man.

00:54:39.440 Speaking of, you know, getting to meet people over the UK, Bolero was over there.

00:54:42.580 So it was really awesome to get to talk to him.

00:54:44.640 Keep guiding the boomers to the realities that the constitution is not a sacred text and 1.00

00:54:48.480 that the GOP and the nineties libs like brand are not going to save us.

00:54:52.940 Yeah, man.

00:54:53.260 Again, really appreciate that.

00:54:54.300 It was great meeting you and, uh, yeah, doing my best to, to help people understand, uh, you

00:54:58.920 know, we're, we're on your side.

00:55:00.140 We're fighting for the same thing, but we just need to understand these things are,

00:55:03.380 you know, essential constitution, very important to, to our identity, to our way of life.

00:55:07.640 Uh, but it is not in and of itself.

00:55:09.420 What, what makes America, what it is.

00:55:11.580 Um, and people, you know, who, who are, who have recently fallen off the liberal train,

00:55:15.960 maybe not your best leaders.

00:55:17.480 Fine to have them on there, but, uh, but, but not your best leaders in the long run.

00:55:21.540 Don't, don't, don't jump in front of bullets for them.

00:55:23.800 Okay.

00:55:24.540 Um, deuce boogaloo for $10.

00:55:27.360 Uh, look at Dave Smith's comment under Louis CK calling him a brilliant mind.

00:55:31.020 There's an odd common notion that being witty means that you're smart, smart, but really

00:55:35.020 most comics are idiots savants at best.

00:55:37.640 Uh, yeah, I mean, I've talked to Dave.

00:55:38.960 I've been on Dave's show.

00:55:40.000 I like Dave.

00:55:40.700 Uh, he's a cool guy.

00:55:42.140 Uh, look, looking forward to talking to him again at some point.

00:55:44.720 Cause we, we, uh, we made some good progress, but I think there's more to discuss there.

00:55:48.420 Uh, I think Dave's probably just being kind of professionally courteous.

00:55:52.720 You know, he, he's a high profile comedian.

00:55:55.540 He's familiar, probably friends with people like Louis CK, uh, higher respects his ability.

00:56:00.360 Look, Louis CK is smart in a way, as you're saying, maybe an idiot savant is the right

00:56:05.000 way to say it, but Louis CK is smart in a way, but that's a problem with our society right

00:56:09.260 now, right?

00:56:09.720 We confuse intel intelligence with wisdom, right?

00:56:14.160 So Louis CK might be a linguistically clever, might understand the nuances of society and

00:56:19.760 humor, social relations in a way that allows them to craft the joke and become very successful.

00:56:24.520 That is of course a kind of intelligent.

00:56:27.100 He is brilliant in that way, but that is not the same as understanding kind of like how

00:56:31.500 society works.

00:56:32.240 In fact, I've found in many ways, uh, that, that the, the, in the smarter people get,

00:56:38.120 sometimes the harder it is for them to relate to like how common people build and form civilizations,

00:56:44.840 societies work to more mutual goods for those kinds of things.

00:56:49.220 It seems like there is a certain level of intelligence you need to operate a society,

00:56:53.760 but there is, and I'm going to make Ed Dutton somewhere.

00:56:56.080 I've done this screaming at me, but there is a certain level of intelligence where, uh,

00:57:00.200 people seem to have a hard time kind of grasping why you have to work together.

00:57:05.860 Why, you know, people need each other, why we have certain norms and safety systems built

00:57:12.000 into society and how that kind of allows us to flourish.

00:57:15.280 So I don't think Louis CK is an idiot in that sense, but obviously, uh, he has allowed,

00:57:21.440 you know, his, his, his box-like mind to break down all of the things that kind of bind a society

00:57:29.440 together.

00:57:29.820 And because he's done that, he is unable to understand some basic things about like how

00:57:34.860 societies actually work and how he, you know, they got to the point where he can enjoy the

00:57:39.180 abundance that he's looking at now.

00:57:41.240 It's just the truth that look, there, there, there's different types of intelligence and

00:57:45.380 Louis CK has one and not another.

00:57:47.180 And, uh, that's pretty much, uh, very much on display in that clip there.

00:57:51.140 All right, guys.

00:57:51.860 Well, thank you so much for coming by.

00:57:53.440 I really appreciate it.

00:57:54.740 It was great seeing everybody.

00:57:56.500 Hope you enjoyed the show today.

00:57:57.800 Like I said, a little different where we're jumping around a little more.

00:58:00.280 Uh, but I want to be able to do that.

00:58:02.120 You know, sometimes I, I, I often try to go for the deep dive because there's so many

00:58:05.840 people doing the news of the day stuff.

00:58:07.520 Uh, but today I wanted to hit on a bunch of different topics.

00:58:10.820 And so it was good to be able to work with you guys and do that.

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00:58:30.520 Uh, I have a piece that just came out on the blaze on why the United States is a people

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00:58:40.200 Thanks for coming by.

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The Auron MacIntyre Show - September 20, 2023

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