The Auron MacIntyre Show - US Intelligence Operated a Secret Trans Sex Chat ｜ Guest： J. Burden ｜ 2⧸26⧸25

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00:00:30.000 Hey everybody, how's it going?

00:00:31.560 Thanks for joining me this afternoon.

00:00:33.240 I've got a great stream with a great guest that I think you're really going to enjoy.

00:00:37.780 You know, you make some memes, some jokes about how corrupt and degenerate the deep state is,

00:00:43.680 the people who are renting this country, 0.95

00:00:45.540 the people who are operating the eternal bureaucracy that is watching over us at every turn.

00:00:50.520 How could there be any more evil than you think they already are?

00:00:53.840 And then a story like this breaks.

00:00:56.240 Chris Ruffo dropped a bomb yesterday that he and a few other investigative journalists had obtained leaked information that the American intelligence community was operating a secret trans sex chat across several different agencies,

00:01:15.480 including the NSA and the CIA, in which they discussed all kinds of things like who they hated, who they were looking to undermine, what kind of sex acts they were going to perform on each other,

00:01:26.760 and probably the grossest of all, the children that they could ultimately groom to fall into the lifestyle that they were perpetuating.

00:01:36.440 Interesting. Tulsi Gabbard has already taken action with this information.

00:01:41.180 We're going to dive into all of that.

00:01:42.960 Joining me today to discuss this absolutely Jerry Springer-esque situation is Jay Burden.

00:01:51.340 Thanks for coming on, man.

00:01:52.740 Yeah, thank you so much for having me on again, Arn. I enjoy it.

00:01:55.860 Yeah, absolutely.

00:01:56.500 Quite a strange topic to be discussing today, but sadly, nothing that I think ultimately surprises us, though perhaps the dark depths were even worse than we suggested.

00:02:10.680 Well, definitely, right?

00:02:11.920 Like if you've been on the Internet for any amount of time, there's a certain amount of degeneracy you almost get used to, right?

00:02:18.980 You know, furries were the most shocking thing in the world once you found out about them, but 10 years later, you know, it barely even, you know, registers a response.

00:02:27.860 And then this, well, this is, you know, well above and beyond, I think, what any of us would have expected.

00:02:34.200 I mean, I think all of us, particularly on the right wing, have made derogatory comments about federal agents from time to time, you know, the idea of the feds.

00:02:43.180 And then you see what they're actually up to.

00:02:45.980 And it's not quite Jason Bourne.

00:02:48.020 I'll put it that way.

00:02:49.180 Yeah, that's quite the understatement.

00:02:51.920 Well, we're going to dive into all of the horrific details on this.

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00:04:32.360 All right, guys.

00:04:33.460 Well, I'm sure you've heard that all of this is just a right-wing conspiracy theory.

00:04:37.620 That certainly there aren't a bunch of perverts at the top levels of government operation.

00:04:43.720 They're not riddling the entire infrastructure of American government.

00:04:48.600 They're not in charge and coordinating together to go ahead and defile young children.

00:04:54.120 None of that can be real.

00:04:55.460 It's all in your head.

00:04:56.840 It's all crazy internet conspiracy theory.

00:04:58.760 Oh, wait.

00:04:59.240 I guess it's been a few months, so obviously that right-wing conspiracy theory is now just a mainstream media headline.

00:05:06.400 It's just a provable reality that everyone could have intuited from the behavior of our elite class,

00:05:13.800 but now is something we can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt.

00:05:18.180 So let's dive in a little bit to Chris Rufo's thread here, and we'll react as we go.

00:05:24.220 It says,

00:05:24.680 This exclusive, he and Hannah Grossman have obtained the logs from an NSA secret transgender sex chat room 0.97

00:05:32.880 in which NSA, CIA, and DIA employees discuss genital castration, artificial vaginas, piss fetishes, 0.89

00:05:41.460 sex polycules, gangbangs, and all on government time. 0.92

00:05:45.040 YouTube, I just want to make it clear.

00:05:46.680 I am just reading the news, okay?

00:05:49.260 I'm not responsible for the content of this news.

00:05:54.740 Could you imagine explaining, just reading out that sentence to yourself 10 years ago and saying,

00:06:01.960 This will be a piece of news.

00:06:04.420 Just that exact literal sentence.

00:06:06.940 I am a journalistic professional just doing my job, right?

00:06:10.720 Like that's, yeah, no, this is insane.

00:06:13.760 Again, it's everything we suspected.

00:06:16.480 It's everything we joked about.

00:06:17.580 It's everything that we could have intuited from the kind of people who are operating our government.

00:06:23.140 But yeah, it is still a little surreal to be like, in the course of being a straight news program,

00:06:28.600 like not comedy, we're not doing the Daily Show here.

00:06:32.400 We still have to read these sentences.

00:06:34.460 It's just absolutely insane.

00:06:38.200 So Rufo says,

00:06:39.200 How could these two channels, of all channels, be the ones that were hijacked in this scenario?

00:07:01.620 To discuss fetishes, kinks, sex, and all legitimized as DEI. 0.87

00:07:08.940 Here is the little snippet from his own work.

00:07:11.900 He says,

00:07:12.100 According to our sources, sex chats were legitimized as part of the NSA's commitment to diversity, equity, and inclusion.

00:07:19.020 Activities within the agency used, or activists within the agency used LGBTQ plus employee resource groups

00:07:26.140 to turn their kinks and pathologies into official work duty. 0.99

00:07:30.240 According to the current NSA employees, these groups spent all day recruiting activists and holding meetings with titles such as

00:07:37.560 Privilege, Ally, Awareness, Pride, Transgender, Community, Inclusion.

00:07:41.860 And they did so with the full support of NSA leadership, which declared that DEI was not only mission critical, but mission imperative.

00:07:50.340 So to be clear, we already know, right?

00:07:54.400 The original story about kind of wokeness, DEI, all this stuff, was that it was only going to touch the soft sciences, right?

00:08:01.880 It would be in sociology or psychology would take over these departments and colleges, 0.98

00:08:07.800 but it would never make its way into, say, the military or into medicine, any of these critical aspects of our society.

00:08:16.500 It certainly wouldn't alter the way that doctors address their patients in a scenario in which biology is critical, that kind of stuff.

00:08:24.960 But knowing that now it, pardon the term, penetrated beyond that and into the intelligence community where literally lives are on the line, right?

00:08:36.140 We are told that these people are doing absolutely critical work to keep the nation safe from terroristic threats.

00:08:42.540 That's why it's so dangerous for Donald Trump or someone else to mess with the employees there,

00:08:47.480 because clearly all these people are just super dedicated civil servants who are only interested in the safety of the United States and the people of the United States.

00:08:57.580 And in reality, they're all just spending all day like they're not doing their jobs.

00:09:02.680 Instead, they're recruiting, they're recruiting for more people to join their transgender chat so they can talk about their sexual fetishes all day online. 0.91

00:09:13.780 This is how they're spending their day at work.

00:09:16.120 Yeah, you're sending pictures of cats on Instagram, but it's much, much worse when it comes to national security.

00:09:23.480 Well, and this is something that, you know, many thinkers in the kind of same general area as we have discussed, right?

00:09:31.260 Whether you want to look at the concept of bio-Leninism or the rather crudely named Trannessary meme, you know, there is something to this, right?

00:09:39.720 That the people who have most fully swallowed left-wing ideology are literal pawns of power, right?

00:09:46.800 They get, as part of their deal, right, they get privileges you and I don't get, right?

00:09:53.540 If you and I in the private sector spent all day talking about similar things, we would not have jobs for very long, right?

00:10:01.840 And for a very long time, up until recently, that was something government employees did not have to face, right?

00:10:08.760 They seemingly could sit around all day and talk about their genital preferences, you know, talk about these kind of like weird, perverse things.

00:10:16.800 And, you know, not only would that get you and I a meeting with HR, but we wouldn't have a job, right?

00:10:23.160 So, sorry to interrupt, but we should be really clear here.

00:10:26.020 You probably could get away with talking about exactly these things.

00:10:30.540 You just couldn't get away if you were doing it while heterosexual, right?

00:10:33.880 Yes, yes.

00:10:34.700 Like, it's literally the heterosexuality of the discussion of these topics that would get you in trouble.

00:10:42.260 If you were discussing these topics, then, much like these agents, you would be part of the DEI coalition.

00:10:48.660 This would be mission-critical discussions.

00:10:50.260 So, it's, in a way, really is straight up, you know, state-mandated homosexuality in the Sam Hyde joke, because if you were discussing that version of sexual preference and what you would do to each other and how you would do it, that's all just work time. 0.52

00:11:09.420 That's, you know, that's critical to the job of the National Security Agency or the Central Intelligence Agency.

00:11:16.240 But if you were a heterosexual man discussing any of this, yeah, you would absolutely be nuked from orbit. 0.64

00:11:23.240 Well, and there's a, you know, there's another layer to this, right?

00:11:25.760 That these are not simply ostensibly useless make-work jobs, right?

00:11:31.380 In every movie and every television show, we are assured that these agencies are on the bleeding edge, right, of the fight against terrorism and organized crime.

00:11:40.720 And yet, you know, anytime there's some sort of mass casualty event, we learn that, well, he was on our radar, but there's nothing we can do, which has prompted many to ask the question, well, what are you doing?

00:11:52.640 And it turns out the answer is basically just holding, like, weird roleplay on, like, a knockoff Discord server.

00:12:01.240 Well, and the reason that all these trans shooters were probably on their radar is they were probably inviting them to the chat rooms. 0.83

00:12:07.360 Like, I was about to say, that's the reason that they know who these people are, because they're probably networking directly with the very, like, insane degenerates that are murdering people.

00:12:20.280 And they don't want to, like, rat out their buddy because they're hoping at some point they can put a move on them or something, right?

00:12:25.620 So, like, we're joking, but, like, people have been murdered in relation to this kind of stuff.

00:12:32.740 And sadly, like, we don't know how much of our jokes are actually applicable in this scenario.

00:12:39.880 As you just pointed out, we're constantly told that it's incredibly dangerous for Trump to get in there and overturn the bureaucracy.

00:12:47.920 And how could you mess with all of these objective civil servants who are just working for the good of the people?

00:12:53.960 This is, you know, this is what a dictatorship looks like.

00:12:56.820 This is the end of democracy.

00:12:58.060 When they say that Trump is a threat to our democracy, they literally mean the trans chat rooms in which they're grooming children. 0.98

00:13:07.980 That is the democracy that Donald Trump is a threat to.

00:13:12.560 And that's not speculation or a meme that I made up that went viral.

00:13:17.120 That is literally what the reporting reveals about our intelligence community.

00:13:21.660 Right, exactly.

00:13:25.640 And it's sort of an interesting thing, right?

00:13:28.640 If you, you know, you look into that term democracy, you know, like many things in modern discourse, it has a literal dictionary definition and then the kind of working definition.

00:13:38.480 And the working definition basically seems to be how much homosexual activity your organization pays for and endorses, right? 0.79

00:13:51.160 So you have countries where someone is, you know, dofully elected, right?

00:13:56.260 To the, you know, a relatively acceptable degree of security.

00:13:59.520 But if they, you know, if they don't approve of, and I'm speaking very delicately here, they don't approve of non-traditional sexual relationships.

00:14:08.980 Well, that's a dangerous dictator, right?

00:14:10.820 That's not real democracy.

00:14:12.640 And it's kind of convenient when someone just says it so quickly, you know, says it so easily.

00:14:17.700 It's like, why do we have to analyze this?

00:14:19.420 You're just saying this, right? 0.99

00:14:21.280 But this, again, this story is patently ridiculous. 0.95

00:14:25.260 Yeah, it is, well, I mean, we'll just go through some of the degeneracy. 0.91

00:14:31.000 I apologize in advance.

00:14:33.320 Normally, I don't dwell on this stuff, but I feel like it's kind of critical at this juncture to, like, explain how completely insane and unhinged the people who are literally in, you know, whose job it is to decide if you're just going to get disappeared to a black site in the United States.

00:14:50.340 Like, how mentally unstable and evil these people are, you know, the joke is it's the global American empire, right? 0.97

00:14:58.020 The gay. 0.99

00:14:58.720 And, like, we literally find out that, yes, like, that's not just a joke from the flags they're putting up. 0.72

00:15:05.560 That is literally what is required to operate inside the system at this point.

00:15:10.580 Like, these guys are, you know, it's like, you know, the old joke is you had to start taking up smoking so you could get the smoke breaks because they were institutionalized.

00:15:18.760 People were incentivized.

00:15:19.760 Well, the only way you can get a joke, a break on the job is to take up smoking.

00:15:24.080 Well, if you want to spend all day not doing your job in, you know, any of America's intelligence agencies, you were incentivized to become trans. 0.92

00:15:32.580 Like, that's actually the way to avoid doing any of the work. 0.91

00:15:37.240 So, you know, Rufo here with some of the documentation, one popular chat topic was male to female transgender surgery, which involves surgically removing the penis and turning it into an artificial vagina. 0.99

00:15:46.880 And the male intelligence agents love the feeling of being penetrated and peeing on others with their pseudo vaginas. 1.00

00:15:53.000 And in case you think he was making that up, you can see the redacted discussions here with the different intelligence agencies marked who are participating. 0.99

00:16:03.080 And you can see, you know, them talking about wearing leggings, peeing on each other here, penetration, just like he discussed.

00:16:11.260 Just the absolute, you know, this is not like, oh, I mean, I'm feeling kind of self-aware about trying to slide into this new identity.

00:16:20.680 This is the most hardcore, and again, you know, this is like really key.

00:16:26.380 This is at the center of a lot of people choosing to engage in this type of behavior.

00:16:30.740 But just the fact that this is what the intelligence agencies are discussing on work time and are encouraged to do so because this is mission critical.

00:16:41.760 Well, right, exactly.

00:16:43.020 And, you know, again, when we talk about, you know, erasing wokeness from the military or the government, you know, it's easy to look at that as just, you know, part of the culture war, right?

00:16:54.620 You know, saying these are things that we don't like, and there's certainly some validity to that. 1.00

00:16:58.720 But what's very clear, right, is that this sort of ideology will overtake the entire institution, right? 0.98

00:17:06.720 This is no longer an institution for spying, it's an institution for gay sex, right? 1.00

00:17:11.820 That takes over the whole thing. 0.98

00:17:14.340 And you see that, like you said earlier, right, that, you know, it creates a set of incentives, right?

00:17:19.880 Well, you can't fire me.

00:17:21.120 I'm a blank activist.

00:17:22.860 Well, all of a sudden, right, you've created a get out of jail free card.

00:17:27.160 And sure, while I'm certain there are some people there who have legitimate gender confusion, what you've also done is you've created an unaccountable class, right?

00:17:37.280 And when you add on top, you know, the categories that require less commitment than, you know, being trans, like, you know, non-binary or the other kind of like weird neo-pronouns, well, guess what?

00:17:47.220 You don't even need to do anything.

00:17:49.700 You know, you don't need to do the part that, you know, you and I might consider a little bit uncomfortable.

00:17:53.740 You can just say, I'm special and you can't do anything about it.

00:17:57.860 And that's your new job now.

00:18:00.060 Yeah, that level of protection, of course, again, as you point out, I've seen this everywhere.

00:18:04.980 This is, you know, why kids will embrace this ideology in school because it actually makes them, like, bully proof.

00:18:12.320 They know that no one can attack them or can in any way criticize them once they kind of have the shield.

00:18:19.660 You see this in universities, you see this in workplaces, but now, again, you see this in intelligence agencies, things that are life or death.

00:18:29.720 These people are deciding, you know, where do spies go?

00:18:32.980 What information decides whether or not a train, you know, we're going to catch somebody trying to blow up a train or shoot up a school?

00:18:39.320 Are we going to try to apprehend this guy moving through some kind of international area where we can, you know, grab him up and take him for questioning?

00:18:50.060 Like, these are all decisions that are made in these arenas.

00:18:53.680 And instead of focusing on that, like, incredibly important work, you know, as we can see here, you know, we got individuals discussing whether or not they're going to get their butthole lasered. 0.99

00:19:06.720 They're going to get their fake, you know, trans boobs grabbed. 1.00

00:19:10.920 You know, how much is it going to cost them to get these different, you know, experimental surgeries done? 0.99

00:19:17.200 And this is how they spend their time.

00:19:20.480 And very importantly here, let me see.

00:19:23.340 Oh, we have some polycule talk, of course.

00:19:26.500 What would it be without that?

00:19:28.560 But what we also will see is that a lot of these people were explicitly discussing their intentions of undermining the Trump administration.

00:19:37.120 How they hate Tulsi Gabbard.

00:19:38.640 They hate Donald Trump.

00:19:39.400 They hate all these different actors who are supposed to come in and clean this up. 0.99

00:19:43.060 So this isn't just a, like, you know, a hive of scum and villainy, a place for degenerates to gather. 0.81

00:19:53.340 It's also specifically a fifth column inside the intelligence agencies who are rallying around this identity in particular as a place in which they will then strike out and push back against the duly elected government of the United States. 0.89

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00:20:38.480 Well, exactly, right?

00:20:40.260 And it just goes to show, right, that these are not isolated trends, right?

00:20:46.420 That the kind of, like, extreme gender ideology is, in and of its core, political, right?

00:20:52.720 That is how they view things.

00:20:54.020 That is a political identity.

00:20:56.060 And, you know, you see that in, you know, how often these things are correlated with, you know, extreme far-left ideology, right?

00:21:03.600 It's the same root idea of, basically, I get to decide, right?

00:21:07.940 I get to decide what happens to my body.

00:21:10.020 I get to decide, you know, what it is appropriate for me to do in a sexual context, right?

00:21:16.140 It's this kind of, like, extreme, you know, liberationist view of the world, right?

00:21:21.300 And so when you look at, you know, and these clips kind of go around on social media, right, of some kind of, like, you know, religious figure who's got every, you know, left-wing symbol under the sun all at once.

00:21:30.600 And in some ways, they're mutually contradictory.

00:21:33.320 But, you know, this really is, it's a religion, right?

00:21:37.720 It's a comprehensive ideology that gives you this kind of, like, guiding principle to go towards.

00:21:43.960 And again, right, if we're talking about democracy, right, democracy doesn't mean, you know, who's actually elected because Donald Trump was elected.

00:21:52.360 It means this kind of, like, nebulous group of, you know, special identities and privileges that must be preserved above all else.

00:21:59.940 And so you can have someone out of one side of their mouth talking about respecting democracy and out of the other say, and we have to resist Donald Trump at every turn.

00:22:10.180 You know, again, right, it's very clearly completely, you know, incoherent from one perspective.

00:22:15.060 But, you know, really, these people are religious zealots, right?

00:22:19.280 It's why that term Tranniserys has caught, you know, gained so much ground.

00:22:24.140 These people are the ideological foot soldiers of the regime.

00:22:27.520 They have taken it to the, you know, the most extreme case you can, which is, you know, self-mutilation.

00:22:33.760 Yeah, that's exactly right.

00:22:35.280 They've shown, that's the final measure of devotion, basically, until the true final measure of devotion.

00:22:41.680 They've gone as far as you possibly can without that one.

00:22:44.720 And ultimately, you see that these guys, because they have created this scenario in which they truly believe that their entire identity, the one that they mutilated their body for radically, is only defensible in a scenario in which progressives have hegemonic power.

00:23:03.020 They rightly treat the entrance of Trump and his duly elected cabinet and other officers as a existential threat to their lifestyle.

00:23:12.680 Because, of course, it is.

00:23:13.860 Like, no one is going to let them sit around all day and chat about this kind of stuff if you don't have a wildly dedicated ideological, you know, system built into the entire civilization.

00:23:26.540 Not just the government, but media, business, religion, every aspect of this.

00:23:31.480 And it's really interesting, you know, you mentioned the religious aspect of this, comparing it to the Janissaries.

00:23:37.480 But the fact that every bureaucratic civilization inevitably ends up being run by eunuchs can't be a coincidence, right? 0.74

00:23:51.460 There's a very Spanglerian cycle to the fact that, like, late-stage empires inevitably end up being run by people who, you know, either through their own choice or through the choice of others, end up without their genitalia.

00:24:07.220 Like, that's not a mistake.

00:24:09.420 There's no way that that happens over and over again.

00:24:13.760 And, you know, obviously there's incentives when you're in a monarchical situation.

00:24:18.800 The eunuchs can't have children with the queen or, you know, the royal daughters or anything, so they're safe to be around women, that kind of stuff.

00:24:26.360 That's why they tend to be placed in these positions of power initially, because they're not a threat to the dynastic succession.

00:24:32.340 But there's also a spiritual gelding that obviously kind of presents itself over and over again inside these civilizational cycles.

00:24:42.340 Again, it just cannot be a coincidence that reliably, when you have specifically a bureaucracy, it's the form in which these eunuchs inhabit, you constantly have them rise to power.

00:24:57.140 And we just see that manifested once again.

00:25:00.820 Hopefully that's something we're breaking out of, but I'm just fascinated by the fact that this is a reoccurring theme throughout every civilization that kind of goes through this era.

00:25:10.720 Yeah. Well, definitely. Right. And there's, it's no secret, right, that even, and this is going to be something difficult to say delicately, right, that same-sex attracted men do quite well in politics, right?

00:25:28.280 And, you know, this is something that's been identified for quite some time, right? You see it in the English political system as well as ours.

00:25:34.320 And there's a level to this, which is basically these people have no project, right? They do not have their own dynasty.

00:25:42.800 And so, one, they're incredibly power motivated, right? Their entire area of effect is limited to their life.

00:25:49.360 But also, right, they can place their highest loyalty to an institution, right? They're not having to take time off to go to kids' soccer games. They're not worried about something other than that institution, right?

00:26:02.120 And so, if you're on the other end of this, right, if you're creating your ideal soldiers, you're looking for someone who doesn't have other loyalties, right?

00:26:09.920 You are their primary purpose in life. And so, really, you know, it's no shock that particularly, you know, people without children for any number of reasons, right, are strongly associated with the ideological left for exactly that reason, right?

00:26:23.760 There's nothing else for them outside of, you know, their life frame. And obviously, that isn't universal, right? There are plenty of people without children who are conservative, but it is a trend, right?

00:26:34.160 It's an exploitable trend. And, you know, again, this is the most extreme case, but, you know, we see it in action here.

00:26:41.660 No, that's a great point. We've spoken so many times on this channel about how the key to opposing the dominance of an ideology or state power is opposing spheres of influence, right?

00:26:56.120 The church, the family, the community. These are the things that ultimately limit the amount of demands that the state can make on an individual because the individual in a proper society is not an individual.

00:27:08.960 They have a large network of obligations that they have to meet on a regular basis.

00:27:14.180 And so, there's only so much that the state can demand because there's all these other networks that the individual has to constantly be plugged into in order to survive and find meaning and fulfill their role in society.

00:27:26.980 And so, they simply can't devote their entire life, their entire fortune, their entire being to an ideology, to an organization, to an operation.

00:27:36.200 But the more and more that the state is able to isolate the individual, the more they're able to draw them out of those networks, the more that they're able to make them entirely dependent on the state itself and not any of these other activities inside society like raising children or providing for parents or seeing to the needs of a church or community,

00:27:55.000 the more they can completely devote themselves over the stronger that the central government can become, the more total the state's demands can ultimately be.

00:28:03.160 And what could be more total of a demand, what could be more complete of a political soldier for a cause, a complete devotion of life to one aspect of an ideology than the trans ideology?

00:28:16.640 It not only, of course, fundamentally changes you for life, removes the ability to have children, moves the ability often to just reach climax, like all kinds of horrible things that it does over a person's life to them,

00:28:28.960 but it also usually makes the person an infinite patron or a client, rather, of the medical system.

00:28:36.500 They're completely dependent on the flow of drugs and treatments that come in.

00:28:40.220 And, of course, you have to find a justification for this.

00:28:43.440 Once you've made this the center of your life, you can't go back for most sweet cases.

00:28:49.400 You see all the people who tried to detransition and just the terrible difficulties that they face.

00:28:54.280 And how do you explain that to parents, spouses, kids, everything else that's connected that you already kind of sold on this change?

00:29:02.500 And so, yeah, you're exactly right.

00:29:04.820 You don't have the kids.

00:29:05.840 You don't have the community.

00:29:07.040 You don't have the church. 0.98

00:29:07.560 You can become this full-on ideological soldier who does nothing but, well, spend your whole day sitting in a chat room talking to other people who are supposed to be safeguarding the intelligence interests of the entire United States about whether or not you're going to get your butt lasered so you can be more attractive to other trans dudes. 0.97

00:29:28.720 Well, definitely, right?

00:29:29.720 And if we look at the kind of long-term arc of liberalism, modernity, however you want to look at it, right, the way that those states have increased their power is basically by breaking social bonds, right?

00:29:44.640 If you look all the way back from the Reformation through the French Revolution to now, right, what you see is a series of bonds broken.

00:29:54.380 Now, look, right, I happen to think that at least some of those were probably a good thing, but nonetheless, right, that is how the state's power grows, right, by getting rid of those sort of intermediary institutions.

00:30:07.940 And so when we look at, well, how far can you take that, right, how far can you, you know, how many barriers can you break?

00:30:15.380 Well, to be honest, there really aren't many left, right?

00:30:18.940 The barrier of, you know, what category of human you are, male or female, that's pretty basic, right?

00:30:25.180 That's pretty far down the list.

00:30:27.420 Similarly, right, one of the reasons that, you know, we see so many of these trans advocates going after children, right, as they did in these chat logs, right?

00:30:36.520 Well, certainly there's just a level of base sexual perversion there, right?

00:30:40.180 I don't want to, you know, overly intellectualize this, but also that is one of the very few sacred bonds left, right?

00:30:47.380 That is one of the very few bonds that you can't really, at least in some circles, touch, right?

00:30:52.320 It's still sacred, but there's that desire to keep going and keep going and keep going.

00:30:58.100 And while there certainly is, you know, an ideological backing, you know, I doubt any, you know, radical trans activist would say, you know, I want to break down the parent-child barrier to increase the power of the state, right?

00:31:11.240 But that is, in effect, what they are doing, right?

00:31:13.900 That is the effect of their actions and beliefs.

00:31:16.740 And again, right, when our nation's ideology is this kind of woke nonsense, it's no surprise that the people, you know, closest to the center of power, right, or at least one center of power, right, the intelligence community, well, they're rotten to the core with it, right?

00:31:33.800 It is the, that is kind of the currency of power.

00:31:37.100 Yeah, absolutely.

00:31:40.480 And I mean, let's, let's just take a look here.

00:31:42.700 I mean, as you say, it's, it's both, you know, it's, it's not rocket science.

00:31:46.720 These people do indeed have a specific proclivity, even though they deny it.

00:31:52.660 But at the same time, it also creates this structure in which they're breaking down those final barriers, those final bonds, as you were talking about, the few things that stand between the average person and the total state.

00:32:06.520 Uh, and so, you know, they, like you said, they probably wouldn't announce that that's their purpose, but obviously that's a consequence of what they're doing here.

00:32:13.920 And, uh, Rufo in this tweet, uh, you know, lays out that part of the chat.

00:32:17.680 He says, NSA and CIA officials express their desire to have hermaphrodite babies in order to advance trans ideology and intersex birth would be a great opportunity to raise a kid as non-binary and let them choose.

00:32:30.000 These are the people who run the surveillance state. 0.99

00:32:32.540 They are insane.

00:32:33.680 You can see here in the chat, what he's talking about, uh, how are you raised?

00:32:37.760 He goes, how you will be, uh, that's not what I'm saying.

00:32:40.700 I'm saying that you're a hundred percent, the results of your experiences.

00:32:43.760 That does not mean the way that you're raised will, uh, be the way that you turned out.

00:32:47.640 So they're talking about nature versus nurture in the context of their own, uh, you know, trans sexuality. 0.56

00:32:53.960 Uh, and then they talk about how an intersex birth would be a great opportunity to raise a kid as non-binary, uh, you know, just have them not choose at all ever. 0.99

00:33:02.160 Uh, and so, you know, we're already talking about, you know, how can we get children and raise them in this ideological understanding, uh, you know, then they're trying to discuss the difference between hermaphrodite and intersex here.

00:33:17.160 Uh, so you can see that, you know, this, this is the level that the chats went to, uh, as they're discussing this.

00:33:23.240 Now, this has ultimately resulted in action by Tulsi Gabbard, who was recently confirmed as the director of national intelligence.

00:33:32.460 Uh, and, uh, she has said, uh, that they are already, uh, firing more than a hundred intelligence officers across 15 different agencies for being involved in this chat.

00:33:44.800 Now, uh, hopefully this goes further.

00:33:47.660 Honestly, uh, these guys probably were involved in criminal behavior.

00:33:52.180 If they were doing this on, uh, on agency time, uh, this isn't the UCMJ.

00:33:58.440 I don't think that applies to intelligence officers, the, uh, uniform code of military conduct.

00:34:03.620 Uh, so I'm not sure that dereliction of duty is itself a criminal offense.

00:34:07.960 However, if these guys were, uh, recruiting, uh, other activists and, uh, pulling people away from, again, mission critical operations to have these kinds of discussions and, uh, you know, encourage this kind of grooming and others in these chat rooms.

00:34:21.540 I've got a feeling that, uh, somewhere someone committed a very serious crime, not just, uh, slacking off at work.

00:34:29.060 I mean, maybe this is, maybe this is wrong to say, I don't really care which law this technically breaks.

00:34:37.640 I want it to go away.

00:34:39.160 I don't think that our intelligence officers should be doing this.

00:34:43.880 My politics is whatever makes this stop.

00:34:45.780 Yeah, exactly.

00:34:46.820 Like that's, maybe that's a low IQ take, but at a certain point, right.

00:34:50.760 If, if we're constantly assured, you know, that, that anytime something bad happens, there's nothing that could be done, right.

00:34:58.420 We have the best intelligence service in the world.

00:35:00.560 And then when we get one very small view into what's going on and we see this nonsense, right.

00:35:07.280 I think it's a very understandable reaction to say, well, I'm sorry, you don't get to do that.

00:35:11.280 Like that, that's not appropriate.

00:35:13.500 That wouldn't be appropriate if you had some, you know, relatively unimportant job, you know, pick your poison of, you know, jobs where you probably could sit around and talk about this all day.

00:35:23.080 I don't think that I, as a taxpayer should be forced to pay for this under the auspices of keeping me safe because it very clearly has nothing to do with that.

00:35:33.940 And also this is not really a minor point, but it's gross and weird.

00:35:38.660 Like, I feel like that doesn't need to be said, but I don't want to support this.

00:35:42.560 It should be actually more emphasized.

00:35:45.020 I'm with you on this.

00:35:46.040 Like we're, we're definitely going with the, I don't care, Margaret.

00:35:48.900 I don't want these people in my government, right?

00:35:51.400 I don't care if there's a specific law.

00:35:54.460 I don't care if there's a specific regulation.

00:35:57.180 Obviously these people should not be anywhere near like anyone, like they shouldn't be near other human beings.

00:36:04.160 But they certainly should not be near any kind of power.

00:36:08.520 And so it's okay to acknowledge that.

00:36:10.580 Like you actually don't need to be ashamed or find some kind of, you know, third rationale for which you can justify what are entirely reasonable expectations for human behavior.

00:36:22.280 That said, I wanted to pivot a little bit and discuss how revelations like this work.

00:36:29.520 Because, so obviously this is important.

00:36:32.520 This should come out no matter what, right?

00:36:34.540 Obviously like this is horrible.

00:36:36.040 This would be big news no matter what from Rufo here.

00:36:39.600 However, it's not a mistake that these stories are coming out in tandem with attempts to dismantle the deep state, right?

00:36:47.440 A large amount of what Trump has to do in order to be successful for conservatives, Republicans, the right wing to ultimately win real victory, as we've discussed over and over again, is the dismantling of the administrative state.

00:37:02.600 It is so central.

00:37:04.520 I've written books about this.

00:37:05.720 I've done videos about this.

00:37:06.960 Everybody who's in our circles has talked about this ad ad nauseum.

00:37:10.960 It's now broken through into the mainstream that this is important.

00:37:17.460 And so everyone understands, to some extent or another, that this is the critical thing if you actually want to make change.

00:37:25.240 It's not just winning the election.

00:37:26.780 It's breaking down these institutions and organizations.

00:37:30.560 And, of course, the left is screaming bloody murder as you do so.

00:37:34.820 Oh, this is the end of democracy.

00:37:37.340 This is totalitarianism.

00:37:38.900 This is Orange Hitler, blah, blah, blah. 0.82

00:37:40.440 But if you are revealing simultaneously, just like they did with the U.S. aid stuff, right?

00:37:47.100 Oh, you can't take down foreign aid?

00:37:50.260 Starving children in Africa aren't getting their AIDS medication.

00:37:54.420 And then you point out, like, actually, no, this money is going to, like, fund atheism in Nepal or trans comic books in Colombia or Peru or whatever.

00:38:03.560 Same thing here, right?

00:38:04.620 Oh, how can you attack the intelligence agency?

00:38:06.760 How can you be firing bureaucrats?

00:38:08.580 These are hardworking individuals, right?

00:38:10.640 And then you drop information like this, and it becomes very clear to the American people that what you're dismantling is not this objective, neutral civil service that only has the interest of the American people in mind.

00:38:23.100 But what you're doing is basically fumigating a just absolute rat's nest of degeneracy court unix, complete and utter just scum that should not be anywhere near power, should not be, you know, nobody should be subjected to, like, what they are doing here in these chat rooms.

00:38:43.740 But certainly it's not something that they should be paid to do as mission-critical DEI work in the middle of the federal intelligence agency. 0.94

00:38:51.900 Well, that's certainly true, right?

00:38:54.300 And, you know, one of the things that, you know, we need to realize in this is that this is very likely not unique, right?

00:39:01.360 That this seems to be the way government agencies work, right?

00:39:07.660 This does not seem to be, you know, an isolated case.

00:39:10.940 Now, obviously, you know, it's particularly severe because this is, you know, allegedly the very serious part of government, right?

00:39:17.160 But if we're looking for, you know, action items on how can we grade Trump, right?

00:39:21.500 Well, how is he actually doing, you know, basically it is determined by how much he can actually carve out of the deep state because this stuff matters, right?

00:39:30.960 Politics is a serious game. 0.66

00:39:32.780 Power politics is, you know, it's not easy and you can't waste time on, you know, random garbage like this, right?

00:39:40.620 This is not something that a serious country does, let alone allegedly the most powerful, prosperous nation in the world, right?

00:39:47.860 You know, our ancestors did not waste time on stuff like this.

00:39:51.520 And again, right, if we want to actually, you know, make America great again, well, this is something that we'll have to go.

00:39:57.640 And to give Trump credit, right, he's done yeoman's work.

00:40:01.340 He's been going in there with a hatchet and, you know, smashing it.

00:40:04.620 And I will say one more thing.

00:40:07.220 You know, I was reading a little bit of, you know, liberal coverage of this.

00:40:10.120 And one of the things that I thought was particularly funny is people complaining about violating these agents' privacy.

00:40:16.760 And forgive me if I'm not particularly sympathetic to the NSA complaining about their privacy.

00:40:23.980 The guy's using the, you know, the Patriot Act to, you know, figure every one of the things in your browsing history.

00:40:31.600 I'm not particularly worried about the fact that their sex chat got blown open.

00:40:35.780 Especially when it was on work time and it was affiliated with the DEI efforts of the intelligence community.

00:40:43.740 In fact, the phrase, the DEI efforts of the intelligence community is itself the most insane thing you should probably ever utter.

00:40:51.240 But here we are.

00:40:51.780 Well, definitely.

00:40:53.320 And I don't want to keep going back to, you know, your feud with our, you know, our mutual friend, academic agent.

00:41:01.880 But, you know, one of the things that, you know, has been an open question is, well, to what degree do the allegedly serious parts of government, right, the hard power, to what degree do they buy into this ideology?

00:41:13.740 And it seems like the answer is a lot.

00:41:16.760 Like, they really buy into it to the point where they are getting, should we say, somewhat uncomfortable elective surgeries and lasering their buttholes.

00:41:24.300 There's a certain amount of commitment there.

00:41:26.040 Yeah.

00:41:26.220 If that doesn't prove religious commitment, then we're out of ways to do that.

00:41:30.980 Exactly.

00:41:31.640 Right.

00:41:31.980 Just an aside.

00:41:33.460 Yeah.

00:41:33.680 No.

00:41:33.860 And to be clear, it's not a feud.

00:41:35.640 It was a bet.

00:41:36.860 And it is over.

00:41:38.740 That said, it is very clear that there's a mix of things happening.

00:41:42.720 Like, Joy Reid is, you know, getting fired from MSNBC. 0.95

00:41:46.100 You've got, you know, Jeff Bezos talking about how he's going to trim the opinion columns at the Washington Post to not be quite so radically liberal.

00:41:56.680 We'll see how much that actually gets done.

00:41:58.880 But simultaneously, we get stuff like this uncovered.

00:42:01.040 So it's clear that some aspects of the ruling elite are attempting to put the woke away.

00:42:05.940 But I feel pretty safe in my analysis that this is a core doctrine that infiltrated deeply into the more serious aspects of the ruling elite.

00:42:14.800 We're often told that the intelligence agencies were basically the ultimate boss of our elite class.

00:42:21.540 They were the final word in kind of academic agents construction, like banks and intelligence agencies were basically like the two big bosses.

00:42:30.380 And the fact that they were operating a DEI trans chat for grooming children is like, well, I think they might have believed some of this then.

00:42:37.880 But that said, we have quite a stack of super chats there in front of us.

00:42:44.780 So we should probably get to the questions of the people.

00:42:46.780 Before we do, is there anything you want people to check out, Mr. Burden?

00:42:50.500 Yeah.

00:42:50.960 So my primary output is the Jay Burden Show, which is an interview show I put out roughly twice a week.

00:42:56.540 I've had Aron on a couple times.

00:42:58.200 So if you want to check out the Jay Burden Show on Apple, Spotify, YouTube, anywhere you listen to podcasts, I'd appreciate it.

00:43:05.160 Absolutely.

00:43:05.960 Great interviews over at the Jay Burden Show.

00:43:08.460 You should most definitely partake.

00:43:10.700 All right.

00:43:11.060 Let's see our questions here.

00:43:12.900 Simplar says, today we all learn democracy is orgies.

00:43:16.140 The more orgies, the more democracy. 0.64

00:43:19.180 I mean, to be fair, there's a certain level of internal coherence to that argument, as disgusting as it might be.

00:43:26.040 Let's see here.

00:43:28.600 Philosophical Thirstworm says, well, this explains all the mysterious deaths and suicides at Fort Bragg.

00:43:34.280 Need a renaming again to Fort Bragg.

00:43:38.840 You know, one thing we didn't mention that I meant to was that the fact that these kind of radical sexual escapades used to be key flags,

00:43:52.140 like red flags for being screened out of intelligence work, right?

00:43:56.140 Because one of the key things when it came to intelligence work is you can't be blackmailed.

00:44:01.320 You can't be blackmailable. 0.98

00:44:02.900 So having a high degree of debt, you know, like a gambling habit, you know, a wild sexual perversion.

00:44:11.280 Like, these are all things that basically barred you from working in the intelligence community because it made you very vulnerable to human intelligence actions.

00:44:21.720 People could pressure you.

00:44:23.100 They could get photos, this kind of thing.

00:44:25.440 And it seems like the way that the American intelligence agency basically decided to get over this hurdle was just to make sure everybody was doing it.

00:44:33.980 Like, you couldn't be blackmailed with it because it was actually something to be proud of, something to be celebrated, something to be preferred.

00:44:40.040 If you were doing that, that actually seems to be the way that they kind of more or less averted what was the problem of the blackmail based on these kind of sexual activities.

00:44:51.200 Well, and I think that there's a, you know, another contributing factor, which is how often are these type of sexual perversions the only thing going on, right?

00:45:03.060 Like, how long is that the, how often is that simply, you know, that's where it stops.

00:45:08.540 And, you know, obviously I know nothing about, you know, certain events at Fort Bragg, but I'll put it this way.

00:45:14.020 I have a feeling that if you dug into these hundred people, you'd find a lot more.

00:45:18.080 You know, if this is what they're saying at work, who knows what they're doing.

00:45:21.580 When they're in the privacy of their own home.

00:45:24.260 I've got a, I've got a sign that I tap about this on a pretty regular basis that I think would apply.

00:45:31.240 I think as educated guests, like you said, no, no hard proof immediately, but I think that's a pretty safe assumption.

00:45:38.460 John Carter here says, I always appreciate when you have a subject matter expert on, for the topic at hand.

00:45:44.940 Jay, do you feel like you're, you're particularly qualified on the intelligence community or the other stuff in this one?

00:45:50.960 Well, as a, as a longstanding policy of mine is to confirm all rumors.

00:45:56.120 My only answer is yes.

00:45:58.040 Yeah.

00:46:00.160 Lion Drinker says, keep up the great work, gents.

00:46:02.240 Thank you, man.

00:46:02.720 It's been a long time.

00:46:03.280 Actually, Lion Drinker has been around since the very beginning of the channel when I had like maybe, you know, 500 subscribers or less.

00:46:10.140 So good to see you, man.

00:46:11.040 Appreciate you stopping by.

00:46:12.060 Michael Robertson says, in cultural revolutions, people swap their old uniforms for an ascendant uniform.

00:46:20.140 These people make permanent changes to their identity as woke forever.

00:46:23.640 What happens after the woke and what do they do?

00:46:26.620 Yeah, that is actually a really critical thing, right?

00:46:29.200 This is, this is a burn the ships, uh, burn the bridge type scenario, right?

00:46:34.260 You know, the reason that you have people, uh, buy into an identity like this, it is very hard, if not impossible, to completely reverse.

00:46:43.020 So when you make this kind of commitment, you know, you're not just getting a tattoo, even, you know, you're doing something that is, uh, irrevocably changing your body.

00:46:52.400 And even with the best efforts of surgeons and such is going to leave very serious side effects, uh, probably make you dependent on chemicals and, and, and, and, uh, care for life.

00:47:02.420 Uh, so if you just pivot away, you know, this is again, one of those reasons I was always, uh, pretty skeptical that we could just easily discard all this stuff.

00:47:12.360 Once you've encouraged so many of these people to buy in, you know, what do they do after?

00:47:17.180 Are they, are they just the walking wounded or, you know, are they, uh, basically like the victims of out of control, uh, you know, psychological experiments from years gone by, you know, what, what happens to these people if we truly move on from this insane moment?

00:47:32.720 Well, I think that.

00:47:34.300 It's similarly to my point about, you know, how we can grade Trump.

00:47:38.120 I think that this will be kind of a leading indicator that, you know, the train, the changes Trump have brought are permanent and lasting, right.

00:47:46.420 That, that we will start to see defections.

00:47:49.040 Now, obviously we'll probably start to see them from kind of, you know, the right word edge of, you know, the liberal coalition that seems to make sense.

00:47:57.200 But, you know, these people, like you've said, I don't know if there is any going back for them because they have permanently and irrevocably bought in, right.

00:48:07.060 There's, there's no way to go back.

00:48:08.600 And while certainly there are people who dream de-transition, there's a vanishingly small minority, even of, you know, a minority.

00:48:15.220 Right.

00:48:16.000 And while it certainly is possible, right.

00:48:18.580 It happens.

00:48:19.100 And I wish it would happen more.

00:48:20.940 I think that these people are likely they're lifers, right.

00:48:25.920 They're, they are fully and totally ideologically committed soldiers.

00:48:30.880 Yep.

00:48:31.480 I think unfortunately that's exactly true, which is why they put this purity test in there in the first place.

00:48:37.540 Uh, Robert Weinsfeld, bring in the Beaver Gang, uh, representing them here for Mr. Burden. 0.99

00:48:43.340 Appreciate that, sir.

00:48:44.120 Uh, Tiny Rick, how do you guys suggest I go about exposing my left-wing family members and friends to the story and others like them?

00:48:50.960 Should I even bother?

00:48:52.580 Um, you know, uh, this is something I try, uh, to stress.

00:48:56.760 Like, you're going to, they're going to be in a scenario now where preference cascades are going to start working on these people, right?

00:49:06.360 Like the elite signaling, I think, is changing.

00:49:08.940 Um, even the focus of the media is changing.

00:49:11.600 Obviously the people in power are changing.

00:49:14.120 And so a lot of these people who are kind of fair weather, well, this is, this is where power lies.

00:49:19.400 This is what makes my life easier.

00:49:20.900 I'll go along with this.

00:49:22.260 They're going to be naturally kind of, uh, predisposition to follow down the path of kind of changing their ideology here.

00:49:31.040 Uh, and so to some extent you, you don't have to push extremely hard.

00:49:35.080 You can have stories like this in your back pocket.

00:49:37.400 You should, so that if they challenge you on an issue, you can say, Hey, here's this, here's what's going on.

00:49:42.900 Obviously we should be able to disagree with this.

00:49:45.540 Right.

00:49:45.760 However, I wouldn't, I wouldn't go hard in the paint, right?

00:49:48.820 You're, you're kind of in the last few miles of this in a lot of ways.

00:49:53.320 And so pushing too hard on this stuff ultimately probably doesn't do a whole lot.

00:49:57.940 If they're so dedicated that even after kind of the ideological shift, uh, the shift in kind of cultural momentum, all the stories coming out, if they're still deeply bought into that ideology, then you're probably not going to just argue them out of it.

00:50:12.020 Like more has to change in their life.

00:50:13.860 The incentive structures have to change before they're going to probably flip.

00:50:17.580 So again, that doesn't mean you shouldn't have the arguments chambered.

00:50:20.500 You should know where this stuff is so you can present it if they need it.

00:50:24.000 But ultimately I wouldn't burn friendships or family, uh, connections over this, especially at this point.

00:50:31.160 Uh, because you know, if, if they were going to like not spend near, if they're like, Oh, you're conserved.

00:50:35.640 I can't be associated with you.

00:50:37.260 Well, no loss on your part.

00:50:38.640 Right.

00:50:38.880 But if they were someone who is still hanging around, still being part of your life, and now they're seeing kind of the, the weight of all these changes fall on top of them, they might be closer to flipping on their own than you think.

00:50:49.980 Well, and my perspective on this, right, is we've been using religious language to talk about this.

00:50:55.640 And I think that that's very apt in this circumstance. 0.95

00:50:58.660 Are there people who are converted by a crazy guy on the street street corner yelling at them, you know, repent or you'll go to hell.

00:51:06.320 Yes, that does happen.

00:51:08.060 But also, uh, the vast majority of people find that kind of unsettling because the problem is when you're changing allegiances, whether it is religiously or politically, there's a certain amount of that.

00:51:17.920 That's kind of embarrassing, right?

00:51:19.460 You were, that person is basically admitting they're wrong.

00:51:22.480 And so oftentimes, uh, a lighter touch is warranted and particularly like a story like this, like this is outrageous, right?

00:51:29.580 It's a punch in the face.

00:51:30.960 And, you know, oftentimes those are the issues that can, you know, cause people to put up their defenses.

00:51:35.980 And so in general, there certainly is a place for rhetoric.

00:51:41.660 This might be one of those stories you send to your buddies and not to your liberal law.

00:51:45.640 Yeah.

00:51:46.580 Uh, global limb, uh, Limburg says, uh, Rufo answers Elon and reveals five bullet points on what government workers did last week.

00:51:53.940 Yeah.

00:51:54.120 In case you didn't know, uh, Elon Musk kind of did this, uh, basically pulse check on the federal bureaucracy saying, send me an email with the five things, five bullet points that you have, uh, accomplished.

00:52:05.600 This week, what do you do, right?

00:52:07.220 They're, they're the bobs from office space.

00:52:09.720 What would you say you do here?

00:52:11.520 Uh, this is a question that basically every average person has to answer on a regular basis in their work, uh, and asking it of government employees is entirely reasonable.

00:52:21.600 Uh, unfortunately, as you point out, Rufo kind of brings us light on what they are actually doing.

00:52:26.420 And it is, uh, every bit as horrible, if not more than we thought.

00:52:31.620 Uh, creeper weirdo says, or, and did you see AA's video on the woke getting put away?

00:52:36.880 It's pretty good.

00:52:37.660 Actually.

00:52:37.980 It has an interesting critique of the war on faith meme possible conversation.

00:52:41.640 Perhaps.

00:52:42.140 Yeah.

00:52:42.280 I'll have to check that out.

00:52:43.160 I haven't seen that video yet.

00:52:45.140 Um, but, uh, I'll, I'll see what he has to say about that.

00:52:48.400 Maybe we can get into it a little deeper.

00:52:50.220 Again, I would like to remember, remind people that academic agent and I are friends.

00:52:54.200 Uh, we agree, uh, on a good bit about how politics works.

00:52:58.080 Uh, we just had a, you know, simple disagreement on one mechanical aspect of, uh, political operation.

00:53:04.580 It's significant one, but you know, we're, we're, we're not in some kind of death struggle ideologically here.

00:53:09.740 It's we're, we're pretty much on side here.

00:53:12.040 Uh, Elijah Tymon says, uh, you don't understand.

00:53:14.820 There aren't real gay people, not like the ones on TV in the nineties played by straight actors. 0.98

00:53:19.200 I know how the real world is.

00:53:21.660 Yeah, it is once again, interesting how many people will ignore.

00:53:25.500 And unfortunately, probably quite a number of Republicans, conservatives will ignore the, uh, kind of inevitability, uh, that this kind of thing was produced.

00:53:34.540 You know, the, the actions and allowances that got us here are pretty obvious, but the slippery slope remains undefeated.

00:53:42.040 Uh, right.

00:53:42.760 And this is unfortunately something that even, uh, the right at this point is often ignoring.

00:53:47.880 Yeah.

00:53:49.200 Uh, tiny Rick says, allow me to play devil's advocate for a moment and suggest that the lasering of the troops butthole is in fact a matter of national security.

00:53:57.960 JK to be right-wing is not to be insane and great show and guests.

00:54:02.000 Thank you very much, man.

00:54:03.540 I don't know what kind of lasers are they deploying?

00:54:05.300 Is it, is it, you know, very sensitive intelligence?

00:54:08.340 It's certainly a sensitive area.

00:54:09.800 I don't, I mean, who knows?

00:54:11.060 Maybe this is what, uh, maybe this is what Reagan's star Wars program was, right?

00:54:15.880 It was not building space lasers to fight the Russians.

00:54:18.140 It was for, uh, you know, a perfectly smooth finish.

00:54:21.100 Yeah.

00:54:21.740 The most important technological development of our lifetime.

00:54:25.900 Yeah.

00:54:26.140 The, the real star Wars, uh, Zang Yi says, uh, Jay Burden is a notorious polygamist tread lightly.

00:54:33.400 Uh, we, we still confirming all accusations.

00:54:36.260 I think I gotta do it.

00:54:38.360 That's me.

00:54:39.100 That's the deal.

00:54:40.620 All right.

00:54:41.780 Continuing forward.

00:54:43.400 Uh, glorified gardens says Jay Dyer talks about how the deep state preferred degenerates, uh, for spies and operatives as they're easy to blackmail or compromise.

00:54:53.520 At least used to be a, yeah, we, uh, you probably submitted this after we already discussed that, but yeah, absolutely.

00:54:58.740 That was a basic standard in the intelligence community.

00:55:01.920 One of the reasons you didn't put, uh, people with these proclivities in important positions is that they were easy to be.

00:55:07.860 It was easy to flip them.

00:55:09.520 You get a couple of compromising photos for a guy who's got, you know, the passwords to a specific satellite.

00:55:15.580 You, you show up, uh, and, and, and, you know, or email it to him or whatever.

00:55:19.560 And he ends up becoming a double agent.

00:55:21.700 Uh, this is a classic trap that was used by intelligence services all the time.

00:55:25.720 So yeah, maybe the, the, uh, technological update, or I guess the, the social technology that you're, you're using here, uh, to try to get around that is, uh, you just make everyone a degenerate and make it normal or make it even laudable.

00:55:38.420 And then you don't have to worry about the blackmail aspects.

00:55:41.120 Well, and this is, I cannot remember his name, but one of the longest running, uh, Russian moles in the U S government who, you know, sent just. 0.92

00:55:50.920 Droves of information to the Soviets, uh, he was compromised because he was a closeted homosexual. 0.99

00:55:55.720 Uh, again, you know, this was during the seventies and eighties when that was majorly taboo and that's how he flipped.

00:56:03.780 Right.

00:56:04.340 And obviously, uh, should we say social attitudes have changed, but you know, the, the very basic piece of wisdom that, you know, people in charge of secrets shouldn't have compromising hobbies.

00:56:15.720 Uh, it seems to have been lost.

00:56:18.180 Yeah.

00:56:19.200 It was a pretty obvious thing, uh, pretty standard practice for a very long time.

00:56:23.300 And yet here we are.

00:56:24.740 All right, guys, we're going to go ahead and wrap this up.

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The Auron MacIntyre Show - February 26, 2025

US Intelligence Operated a Secret Trans Sex Chat ｜ Guest： J. Burden ｜ 2⧸26⧸25

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