The Auron MacIntyre Show - Vivek Calls Out Replacement Migration ｜ 12⧸7⧸23

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00:00:30.280 Hey everybody, how's it going?

00:00:32.220 Thanks for joining me this afternoon.

00:00:33.940 I am Oren McIntyre.

00:00:35.860 So, yet another GOP primary debate without the relevant candidate, of course, Donald Trump.

00:00:43.200 But we did have Chris Christie, Nikki Haley, Vivek Ramaswamy, and of course, Ron DeSantis.

00:00:49.740 This was an interesting one, despite the fact that, of course, the major player wasn't here.

00:00:54.500 While it is often like we are listening to the kids' table,

00:00:57.920 it is interesting to see what ideas come up, what is percolating in kind of the consciousness

00:01:03.800 while these debates are going on.

00:01:06.300 Because it does have some interesting moments that kind of indicate where the party is going

00:01:11.460 or where the discussion is going.

00:01:12.860 And that's what I'm always interested in.

00:01:14.980 Where is the debate moving?

00:01:16.420 Where is the zeitgeist?

00:01:17.600 What's being memed into reality?

00:01:19.260 These are the things that I think really matter in this situation,

00:01:22.300 since the, again, most relevant candidate isn't on stage.

00:01:26.380 So, I wanted to go through the debate today and play a few of the clips for you,

00:01:30.760 listen in to what these guys had to say,

00:01:32.800 because I do think some really important things were discussed.

00:01:35.580 And, of course, I think the most important one

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00:03:21.720 All right, guys, so let's go ahead and take a look at the debate last night.

00:03:27.680 Like I said, it's the kids' table in a lot of ways.

00:03:31.500 All of these people here that are running are really just hoping something happens to Donald Trump,

00:03:37.800 something bad happens to Donald Trump.

00:03:39.200 I know that's a terrible thing to say, but it's just the truth.

00:03:41.820 Obviously, he's ahead by a lot.

00:03:43.780 Trump is crushing in the polls everywhere.

00:03:46.940 That's something that was brought up during the debate.

00:03:50.780 Actually, I'll give credit where it's due.

00:03:52.760 Megyn Kelly was kind of the main moderator for this, 0.93

00:03:56.020 and this was a better debate than what we've seen from a lot of other situations.

00:04:00.200 I still think that the best one was the summit where Tucker Carlson got to do 30 minutes with kind of each candidate.

00:04:06.580 However, this was, as debates go, this was better.

00:04:09.260 It's a much smaller, of course, only four people on the stage,

00:04:11.640 and the questions that were asked were pretty pointed.

00:04:14.520 And Megyn Kelly pointed out that the entire field was being lapped by Donald Trump by a good bit.

00:04:21.220 Even Ron DeSantis, who was supposed to be the frontrunner, was supposed to be the other guy,

00:04:26.800 the non-Trump candidate, was supposed to coalesce all of the support that was not for Trump behind himself.

00:04:32.460 He was supposed to be the most relevant guy on the stage.

00:04:34.920 He has really failed the launch here.

00:04:37.720 And again, I like Ron DeSantis.

00:04:39.680 He's my governor.

00:04:40.440 He did an amazing job, especially during the pandemic, and he has my support as Florida governor, and my thanks.

00:04:47.720 I think he's a very good policy guy, and I think that he has a very valuable future when it comes to administration and politics.

00:04:56.240 However, this was just not his time, and I think that's become very clear at this point.

00:05:01.200 He's down, I think, by like 30 points, even in Florida, his home state, where he is well-loved,

00:05:08.160 which just kind of shows you how it was not a good idea for him to get into the race at this time

00:05:14.340 to kind of waste his political capital and his moment when he would have been the heir apparent to Trump after this.

00:05:22.280 I think a lot of people just didn't understand the dynamics going on, or they just didn't care.

00:05:27.380 A lot of the GOP base feels like Trump was robbed.

00:05:31.180 They feel like he's an incumbent, and they feel like he deserves the next chance.

00:05:36.300 And yeah, there's a lot of things you can level Trump.

00:05:39.320 There's plenty of criticisms about Trump that are 100% valid.

00:05:42.780 I have them myself.

00:05:43.880 Trump is not a perfect candidate.

00:05:45.340 He's not even close.

00:05:46.160 He's deeply flawed as both a human being and as a politician for what he did in office, the promises that he failed to keep.

00:05:52.980 I'm not trying to defend any of that, but there's just a political reality on the ground

00:05:57.600 that I think DeSantis should have recognized, his advisors should have recognized.

00:06:03.000 But of course, they're not incentivized to do that because then they don't make money, right?

00:06:06.820 So the best advice to give a candidate is to keep you employed.

00:06:11.500 And so to keep you employed, you have to keep telling them that they can win

00:06:14.560 so you can raise money and make commercials and give advice and set up all these plans.

00:06:19.560 And so the incentive structure is just not there for anyone to be honest with Ron DeSantis

00:06:24.480 and say, this is not your time.

00:06:27.000 And so I think that he ended up in a bad situation there.

00:06:29.440 However, it is interesting what came up on stage because while the brutal reality is that

00:06:35.600 none of these people are going to be running for president as the nominee, as the candidate

00:06:41.380 for the Republicans, unless something happens to Donald Trump, he's somehow legally barred

00:06:45.640 or something physically happens to Donald Trump, God forbid.

00:06:48.280 And that's the only way these people are ever going to end up being the GOP nominee.

00:06:53.200 And so what they're saying here is more interesting because they're kind of running for vice president

00:06:57.960 or cabinet positions or maybe corporate board memberships.

00:07:03.960 They're running for something else.

00:07:05.600 Every one of these people is really using, maybe not Ron DeSantis, but everybody else,

00:07:10.560 he thought he was actually going to be president, I think.

00:07:13.480 But everybody else on this stage is running for something else.

00:07:16.420 They're on stage to further their careers as pundits or as think tank members, as policy

00:07:23.300 members, something.

00:07:24.080 They're not there to run for president.

00:07:26.080 So it's interesting what they're saying and the issues they're pursuing and bringing to

00:07:29.800 the forefront.

00:07:30.860 Now, obviously, I think the most important thing that happened last night, I think there

00:07:35.560 are a number of things that are important.

00:07:37.060 But I think the most important thing that happened last night was Vivek Ramaswamy bringing the issue

00:07:43.000 of replacement level migration, or as it's often called, the great replacement onto the

00:07:49.480 stage.

00:07:49.820 He mentioned it during a kind of list of things that he was willing to talk about that no

00:07:54.100 one else was willing to talk about.

00:07:55.560 Let's play that real quick.

00:07:56.380 I think the real enemy is not Donald Trump.

00:07:58.460 It's not even Joe Biden.

00:07:59.880 It is the deep state that at least Donald Trump attempted to take on.

00:08:03.760 And if you want somebody who's going to speak truth to power, then vote for somebody who's

00:08:07.800 going to speak the truth to you.

00:08:09.700 Why am I the only person on the stage, at least, who can say that January 6th now does look like

00:08:14.840 it was an inside job?

00:08:16.080 That the government lied to us for 20 years about Saudi Arabia's involvement in 9-11?

00:08:21.460 That the great replacement theory is not some grand right-wing conspiracy theory, but

00:08:26.040 a basic statement of the Democratic Party's platform?

00:08:29.100 That the 2020 election was indeed stolen by big tech?

00:08:34.120 That the 2016 election, the one that Trump won for sure, was also one that was stolen

00:08:40.100 from him by the national security establishment that actually put up the Trump-Russia collusion

00:08:44.840 hoax that they knew was false?

00:08:45.960 There's a reason why I'm the only person on the stage who can say these things.

00:08:50.160 All right.

00:08:50.840 So he lists a number of things there that he's right most of the people on that stage are

00:08:55.060 not willing to touch because they fear the lack, the loss of mainstream credibility that

00:09:01.400 liberals give.

00:09:02.720 I just did a show with Jay Burden.

00:09:04.980 You might want to go back and watch that one episode if you didn't catch it, where we talked

00:09:08.480 about the importance of the prestige that is sought by many conservatives or many establishment

00:09:14.760 GOP members that is granted by mainstream institutions, particularly ones, of course, controlled

00:09:20.380 by the left, as almost all of them are at this point.

00:09:22.500 And he's right that many of the people on that stage that are besides himself are not

00:09:27.080 willing to address those issues, use those words, touch those third rails issues because

00:09:32.360 they still want to be seen as legitimate in the eyes of someone like the New York Times

00:09:38.420 or more importantly, probably the donor class, right?

00:09:41.720 They want to be able to continue to cash those checks from big donors and big donors don't want

00:09:46.800 you to talk about any of the issues he just listed, but particularly replacement level

00:09:51.500 migrations.

00:09:52.500 This is, of course, been treated as a conspiracy theory, and I think he tweeted out a very good

00:09:58.480 follow-up tweet after he mentioned this.

00:10:00.820 I'll just read it out real quick.

00:10:02.260 He said, the conspiratization of the Great Replacement Theory is the standard left-wing

00:10:08.480 playbook.

00:10:10.180 Transparently advance a toxic policy, then label it a conspiracy theory when the other side

00:10:15.820 contests the merits of it.

00:10:17.560 We need a real debate over whether intentionally facilitating mass illegal immigration to change

00:10:22.960 this country is good for America or not, because that's exactly what's happening.

00:10:26.640 I think it's bad, but the left believes it's a good thing.

00:10:29.200 We should be able to make the case for this.

00:10:30.820 And he's exactly right.

00:10:32.500 What the left does so often is implement a malicious policy and then stigmatize any discussion

00:10:38.940 or debate on it by branding it with some kind of radical right-wing or conspiracy theory label.

00:10:45.480 And we've seen this so often.

00:10:47.000 Again, you can just look at the very many instances of this during the pandemic, whether it came

00:10:52.080 to certain shots, certain requirements, certain medical treatments, the different aspects of

00:10:58.200 masks, the facts of spread when it came to the disease itself.

00:11:02.980 These are all things, if you had any alternative explanation that did not fit into directly

00:11:08.780 the mouthpieces of the regime, then you were labeled a conspiracy theorist.

00:11:13.240 Even people with decades of high-level experience and incredible credentials who had long strings

00:11:21.140 of very reliable publishing of papers and working in this field, they were labeled as conspiracy

00:11:30.120 theorists for just stating anything that happened to be factual, but outside of the mainstream

00:11:36.780 narrative.

00:11:37.800 And of course, we see this all over the place, and it's definitely included in migration.

00:11:42.380 It is undeniable.

00:11:44.000 There's just simply no way that any sane person looking at the facts can deny that the left

00:11:49.920 is specifically looking to replace the current population of the United States, slowly but

00:11:56.420 surely, not through any radical, crazy, like marching anyone to concentration camps or anything,

00:12:03.100 but they are looking to slowly but surely allow a stream of immigration into the United

00:12:08.800 States that fundamentally changes the population, the demographic realities, and political realities

00:12:14.320 that are attached to those demographic realities inside the United States to secure a left-wing

00:12:19.700 majority in the democratic process.

00:12:22.300 And if you don't think that's the case, all you have to do is listen to the left for 10

00:12:26.260 seconds when they think that you're not paying attention, because they will loudly and proudly

00:12:30.880 on a regular basis announce their intention to do exactly that.

00:12:35.180 They will speak triumphantly about the fact that the demographics in the United States are

00:12:41.180 shifting, that they are inevitable, and that the demographics that are replacing what were

00:12:46.180 a legacy mixture of Americans in the United States are going to perpetually vote for the left.

00:12:53.160 Now, that doesn't necessarily have to be the case.

00:12:56.080 We've already seen, for instance, in places like Florida, that Hispanics can move in the direction,

00:13:02.080 for instance, of the Republican Party when it came to DeSantis' very large victory,

00:13:06.320 even in places like Miami-Dade.

00:13:08.580 So competent governance inside of certain areas may indeed shift those.

00:13:13.140 Those voting blocks may not be as monolithic as the left hopes, but they are, of course,

00:13:18.700 right, and they're fully aware of the fact that new immigrants, because they are not connected 0.98

00:13:23.600 to the culture and to the established order inside the United States, tend to look to the

00:13:29.440 left because they're the ones offering them handouts.

00:13:32.480 They are the ones offering them programs that will give them a leg up.

00:13:36.560 And again, if I was living outside the United States, if I was one of these people who wanted

00:13:41.900 to have a better life and saw the economic opportunity and the opportunity for my children,

00:13:46.940 I would probably move.

00:13:48.140 I would probably come in.

00:13:49.180 I would probably do the things that they are doing.

00:13:51.100 I'm not surprised.

00:13:52.700 We have put our...

00:13:53.640 These aren't bad people in the sense that they are malicious in many ways.

00:13:57.400 Some of them are, but many of them are just looking for a better life.

00:14:00.740 But they are following the incentive structure that has been set up by a political party that

00:14:05.100 is looking to move them into the United States for the explicit purpose of changing the voting

00:14:11.600 patterns in the United States to perpetually keep the left in power.

00:14:16.200 I think it's something like 8 million new illegal immigrants have been brought in during

00:14:21.760 Biden's term.

00:14:23.120 That's more than multiple red states.

00:14:25.340 That's at least one or more blue states that have basically been added to the mixture of the

00:14:32.240 United States just during Biden's term.

00:14:35.020 That's not even counting everything that happened before that.

00:14:37.840 That has to permanently change the way that votes occur in the United States. 0.86

00:14:42.220 And of course, again, the left knows this.

00:14:44.680 They specifically do things like fly these immigrants into red states, these illegal immigrants 1.00

00:14:51.480 into red states.

00:14:52.420 Once they've arrived, they do the same thing that DeSantis has been doing, you know, bussing 0.58

00:14:57.840 these immigrants in to places like New York.

00:15:00.300 They've been doing that to red states for a very long time, and their intentions are very 0.96

00:15:04.320 clear.

00:15:04.740 They're looking to change the voting patterns in those states to secure themselves power.

00:15:10.220 This is the problem and the flaw that exists when you have mass enfranchisement democracy.

00:15:17.300 This is the incentive structure that will always exist.

00:15:20.820 There's nothing new to be clear about the Democrats' strategy.

00:15:25.320 You can look at the work of someone like Bertrand Juvenal in his book On Power.

00:15:30.580 He explains how every time the high-low versus middle dynamic that I've talked about many

00:15:37.380 times, that power, the total state, wants to bring in client classes that are not connected

00:15:45.640 to the current ruling order.

00:15:47.260 So if you want to look at kind of the right, the conservatives, as kind of a classic ruling

00:15:52.920 order inside the United States, they are, the left wants to undermine that by bringing

00:15:58.620 in people who are not connected to those communities, those traditions, those ways of life.

00:16:04.900 They want to bring them in because they are less likely to be loyal to those things, less

00:16:08.940 likely to buy in those things, more likely to instead be loyal to a regime that can hand

00:16:13.300 out status and benefits and economic opportunity to them, they are more likely to do that.

00:16:19.520 And then they use those tools as a wedge against the existing power structures of the existing

00:16:24.400 population.

00:16:25.240 Again, this is not some new or novel strategy that the left has developed.

00:16:29.820 This is not something that's particularly, I mean, it's malicious, but it's not particularly

00:16:34.260 new to the way they're doing business.

00:16:37.480 This is a tried and true power formula used by those that wish to get rid of the middle 1.00

00:16:45.700 class, get rid of the established power inside a political body so that they can gain power

00:16:53.480 by destroying their opponents, their competition.

00:16:58.700 Time tested over and over again.

00:17:01.480 This is done.

00:17:02.100 You can look throughout history, nothing new.

00:17:04.280 And the Democrats are simply recognizing that and they are deploying that.

00:17:08.320 And if Ramaswamy is exactly right to call this out because it is the issue, it is the

00:17:14.140 only issue that matters because this is an existential threat to the political process inside the

00:17:20.860 United States.

00:17:21.840 If you're going to have a popular sovereignty mechanism, if you're going to have especially

00:17:26.760 mass enfranchisement across the entire body of people inside the United States, you have

00:17:33.760 to control who's here because if you don't, your leadership will.

00:17:38.180 And when the leaders can simply move in a population to change the voting reality on the

00:17:43.480 ground, they will do so.

00:17:45.260 If they don't like the fact that you're opposing certain aspects of their agenda, they will

00:17:50.800 simply move in people who will dilute your vote and then make sure that you don't have

00:17:56.360 a voice.

00:17:57.040 This is just, again, a very classic strategy.

00:17:59.880 And so if you don't have a tight control on the border, if you don't have a tight control

00:18:03.780 on the makeup of the country, then you will lose.

00:18:07.820 That's just going to be true.

00:18:10.280 The political beliefs of people are largely tied to the way that they were brought up,

00:18:15.120 to their culture, to their way of being.

00:18:18.920 The values of the United States are not magically handed down to us from the Constitution.

00:18:25.260 The Constitution was a reflection of the natural values that had arisen from the people who

00:18:31.420 were part of the United States.

00:18:32.840 The United States is not just an idea.

00:18:35.760 The United States is a set of values and a culture that came from the people who lived

00:18:41.640 here.

00:18:42.200 And if you change the people in the United States, you will change the values of the

00:18:47.440 people in the United States.

00:18:49.020 That's just true.

00:18:50.100 And the left obviously believe that because they want to fundamentally transform the United

00:18:54.580 States.

00:18:54.980 Barack Obama said so explicitly.

00:18:57.180 That is their goal.

00:18:58.480 And they know that the key to doing that is changing the makeup of the United States.

00:19:02.840 This is not some crazy idea.

00:19:04.960 This is what the left knows to be true.

00:19:07.100 It is the strategy they are directly implementing and will brag about if they are allowed to.

00:19:11.600 It's Michael Anton's celebration parallax, right?

00:19:14.840 If you notice it and you're in favor of it, then you're allowed to celebrate it and the

00:19:19.320 noticing is fine.

00:19:20.400 If you notice it and you think it's a problem or you're against it, well, now you're noticing

00:19:24.440 is some kind of racist conspiracy, right?

00:19:27.100 Same set of facts.

00:19:28.640 You're allowed to acknowledge them if you're in favor of them.

00:19:30.960 But if you acknowledge them and you're against them, all of a sudden, you're a very dangerous

00:19:35.280 person.

00:19:36.620 Vivek points this out.

00:19:37.800 He's exactly right to do so.

00:19:39.480 And you can tell this terrifies people because of the way they react to it.

00:19:43.440 Let me play Van Jo's over at CNN talking about how he does not like the fact that

00:19:49.100 Vivek called this out.

00:19:50.280 The smug, condescending way that he just spews this poison out is very, very dangerous because

00:19:57.540 he won't stop Trump, but he's going to outlive Trump by about 50 years. 0.98

00:20:03.040 And you're watching the rise of an American demagogue that is a very, very despicable person.

00:20:09.080 And I literally, I was shaking listening to him talk because a lot of people don't know 0.90

00:20:14.580 that is one step away from Nazi propaganda coming out of his mouth.

00:20:18.520 Oh, he's literally shaking, guys.

00:20:20.660 He did a literally shaking meme.

00:20:22.440 It's terrible propaganda.

00:20:23.880 It's mid-century German propaganda, right?

00:20:26.660 That's what it is.

00:20:28.120 No, it's simply acknowledging what the left has directly announced, right?

00:20:33.220 In fact, so to explain how deeply the left's own ideology validates what Vivek is saying,

00:20:41.360 the left regularly tells you that all of the things about America that they don't like are

00:20:47.420 whiteness, right? 0.95

00:20:48.520 That they are white. 0.92

00:20:49.580 So it is their own ideology that declares these aspects of America to be linked to whiteness. 0.65

00:20:57.320 That is what the left says.

00:20:59.020 That is their woke ideology and the way they explain and relate to those behaviors.

00:21:05.280 So by the left's own understanding of the causal relationship between race and approach to

00:21:13.740 things, they would need to change the people in charge.

00:21:19.140 They would need to change the people who hold power in order to get rid of the aspects they

00:21:23.620 don't like.

00:21:24.220 So in their own ideology, this is what they seek.

00:21:27.420 And yet when Vivek simply states the obvious fact that this is what they are actively pursuing

00:21:32.800 and have acknowledged in their own ideology is what they are pursuing.

00:21:36.840 Oh, that's a problem.

00:21:37.900 That's dangerous propaganda.

00:21:39.440 I'm literally shaking.

00:21:40.720 No, it's just the acknowledgement of what your own ideological assumptions lead you to

00:21:45.460 and what you have explicitly said is your agenda.

00:21:49.480 That's it.

00:21:50.840 And Vivek is calling that out.

00:21:52.520 Now, I want to get into a little more about the importance of him calling that out and

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00:23:11.000 All right, so we look at the way that Vivek approached this issue, and I think it stirs

00:23:18.340 the pot for a lot of reasons.

00:23:20.260 First, like I said, this is the key issue.

00:23:22.360 Now, of course, I care a lot about many other issues.

00:23:25.480 In fact, I defend the fact that people focus on, for instance, the, you know, they'll talk

00:23:31.320 about how, oh, well, we don't need to be worried about things like the left's attack on children

00:23:35.500 and their innocence because, you know, immigration is more important.

00:23:38.900 Look, I think they're both incredibly important, but people who, and I think we need to be able

00:23:44.260 to focus on that aspect of the left.

00:23:46.480 However, it is true that if you cannot control your borders, if the left are able to bring

00:23:53.960 in people who will vote their way no matter what, then the rest of the issues you focus

00:23:57.800 on don't really matter because that means that your voting system is incredibly corrupt. 0.77

00:24:02.440 This is a national security issue.

00:24:06.300 This is an issue of a lot of different things, but it's also a voting security issue.

00:24:12.200 It's an elections issue.

00:24:13.180 If you do not seal your border, then you are allowing infinite malleability when it comes

00:24:17.380 to the way that the regime can manipulate elections, which means they can always turn them into their

00:24:22.840 favor.

00:24:23.120 This should be an issue that's an existential crisis for a real political opposition.

00:24:28.380 That's how you know the GOP isn't a real political opposition because they don't really care.

00:24:32.580 They make a lot of nice noises about closing the border.

00:24:35.240 Even Trump did not sufficiently take this seriously, though, to be fair to him, he was hampered

00:24:40.460 in many ways, both by the interjections of the deep state and by sabotage inside his own

00:24:47.580 party.

00:24:47.920 But it's very clear that the GOP does not treat this as an actual existential crisis, which

00:24:53.120 is a problem because they're the only people who have the opportunity to take any action

00:24:58.600 on this.

00:24:59.420 Now, it was nice to hear some important things from people like Ron DeSantis talking about

00:25:04.580 the need to tax remittances went to foreign countries so that they can go ahead and use

00:25:10.360 that money on the border.

00:25:11.960 Okay, great.

00:25:13.100 I mean, you should just be, you know, taxing those wildly anyway, just to disincentivize

00:25:19.440 immigration into the United States by foreign nationals who simply want to pump money out 0.99

00:25:24.180 of the United States and send it to their families.

00:25:27.520 But you should you also had Vivek talking about the importance of allowing states to enforce

00:25:34.100 to actually deputize state law enforcement to go ahead and enforce the immigration laws.

00:25:41.000 That's critical.

00:25:42.080 Again, this should be an all of the above strategy.

00:25:44.220 Both talked about the importance of deportation, which I think is really great, too. 1.00

00:25:48.720 That's nice that that is being normalized, that the importance of talking about deportation

00:25:52.860 is on the table.

00:25:54.540 I think that's something that was basically untouched by a lot of Republicans.

00:25:57.760 Oh, we can't possibly send people back once they're here.

00:26:00.180 As soon as they cross the border, they're just here eternally.

00:26:02.640 It's a free pass.

00:26:03.540 No, you're actually having people talking about the importance of large scale deportation, which

00:26:08.500 I think is good that that's being normalized by Trump and other candidates like Vivek.

00:26:12.960 And I think Santis is also on board to some degree with that.

00:26:15.940 So that's important.

00:26:17.160 Now, that said, I don't 100% support Vivek for a number of reasons, one being that I think

00:26:24.300 while he's good on illegal immigration, he's still bad on legal immigration.

00:26:28.620 And people need to understand that that's a critical part of the issue, too.

00:26:31.980 It's not just illegal immigration that's a problem.

00:26:34.340 That's the main problem.

00:26:35.200 That's the first thing that should be solved.

00:26:36.780 Obviously, if you don't solve illegal immigration, then legal immigration doesn't matter because

00:26:40.840 your borders are open.

00:26:41.820 So until the borders closed, that's all that matters.

00:26:44.380 However, legal immigration is itself also a problem.

00:26:47.680 We have too much pressure on the average American worker, the average American home buyer, the average

00:26:54.600 American business needs to learn how to hire people who are in this country, invest and train

00:27:00.880 people in this country.

00:27:02.020 We need homes, the home market to cool down and reducing the number of people fighting

00:27:07.560 for those homes is critical.

00:27:09.300 These are all things that are really important to the future of the country.

00:27:12.960 You cannot have family formation.

00:27:14.480 You cannot have stable communities.

00:27:16.460 You cannot have the kind of vision that the GOP claims that they want for the United States

00:27:22.380 unless you go ahead and shut down not just illegal immigration, but legal immigration as well.

00:27:29.100 You need to seriously curtail legal immigration. 1.00

00:27:32.560 And I think Vivek, unfortunately, is not good on that.

00:27:34.960 He's still kind of of this mindset that we can just bring HB1 visas in and have them fill all these

00:27:40.940 opportunities.

00:27:42.040 You kind of get that.

00:27:43.200 Obviously, you know, that's how a lot of Indians, people of Indian descent move into the United States

00:27:49.340 at the moment.

00:27:50.020 Very competent class moving in and taking over many of those areas.

00:27:54.060 However, that is not OK.

00:27:55.960 You should be training people in the United States.

00:27:58.120 You should be advancing people who are already here.

00:28:00.740 You should be having having corporations invest in the workforce in the United States, not moving

00:28:05.860 foreign workforces even legally into the United States so that they can have those people in 1.00

00:28:12.140 those positions competing with Americans for those jobs, for those wages, for that housing.

00:28:17.620 So while it's nice to see Vivek say a lot of important things, I still think that he is not

00:28:23.880 great on some of these issues.

00:28:25.480 Now, obviously, I don't think any of these people are going to be president.

00:28:29.100 I don't think any of these people are going to be the candidate for the Republicans.

00:28:32.220 So it's more about what they're saying.

00:28:34.260 I'm not excited about any one of these guys running for president of the United States or

00:28:39.680 being the Republican nominee because I don't think they're going to be.

00:28:44.120 But it is important to look at what they're saying because I think that the conversation they're

00:28:47.860 having is important.

00:28:49.100 And that's interesting because while Vivek comes in there, he's kind of doing his best Trump

00:28:52.580 impression, right, he's kind of blowing through people, he's running over people, he's throwing

00:28:56.480 out insults.

00:28:57.560 He doesn't really have the casual nature about it.

00:29:01.780 I don't know how to properly encapsulate it.

00:29:04.800 But Trump had a playfulness to his banter that while it could be harsh, somehow always made

00:29:10.680 it feel like he wasn't going too far in a lot of areas.

00:29:14.460 And that's what allowed him to kind of get away with some of the things he did.

00:29:17.840 Now, Vivek is trying the same thing, but he doesn't quite have the flair.

00:29:22.040 He doesn't quite have the touch needed to do that.

00:29:25.580 And sometimes that creates situations where people feel like he's too hostile.

00:29:29.880 Chris Christie went after him on stage.

00:29:32.100 There was a back and forth on this where he got very angry.

00:29:35.000 I'll play that real quick.

00:29:36.260 You do this at every debate.

00:29:39.560 You go out on the stump and you say something.

00:29:42.100 All of us see it on video.

00:29:43.880 We confront you on the debate stage.

00:29:45.640 You say you didn't say it, and then you back away.

00:29:48.360 And I want to say exactly what I said, Chris.

00:29:50.040 I'm not done yet.

00:29:51.240 Well, this is...

00:29:51.840 Now, look.

00:29:52.140 Hold on.

00:29:52.660 Hold on.

00:29:53.320 This is not a spirit.

00:29:54.500 This is not a spirit of nonsense.

00:29:56.360 Let me tell you something.

00:29:57.200 This is the fourth debate.

00:29:58.960 The fourth debate that you would be voted in the first 20 minutes as the most obnoxious 0.96

00:30:03.700 blowhard in America. 1.00

00:30:05.040 So shut up for a little while. 1.00

00:30:06.660 I'm going to listen to that. 0.99

00:30:08.440 Chris, you're version of...

00:30:09.600 We're going to let you respond to that.

00:30:10.820 We're going to let you respond to that.

00:30:12.040 I'll take that.

00:30:12.440 I'll take that.

00:30:13.140 I want to say something else.

00:30:14.180 We're now 25 minutes into...

00:30:16.980 All right.

00:30:17.880 So Christine calls him blowhard and everything.

00:30:20.980 They get very angry at him.

00:30:23.180 They also have a big spat with Nikki Haley.

00:30:28.220 He's very aggressive with her.

00:30:30.320 And so, again, I think that it kind of rubs people a little bit.

00:30:33.960 Again, Trump did this.

00:30:35.980 It also had some certain parts of the base were not comfortable with that.

00:30:40.840 But I think he did have a little more finesse with this.

00:30:43.300 And that's why he got away with it a little more often.

00:30:46.720 All right.

00:30:47.000 So some of the other things that got brought up during the debate that I think was very

00:30:50.860 important.

00:30:51.740 First, I would say that while Chris Christie...

00:30:54.640 Someone just said Chris Christie looks like a Batman villain.

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00:31:12.700 Not wrong.

00:31:14.260 So while Chris Christie obviously has no chance and is basically just comic relief for much

00:31:20.540 of this debate, he did bring up some good points.

00:31:23.240 He did do a good job of actually holding DeSantis' feet to the fire on multiple occasions

00:31:29.200 where DeSantis kind of dodged different answers.

00:31:33.920 DeSantis has this thing he does, and it's a practiced political move.

00:31:37.280 It's good.

00:31:38.660 I'm not really hitting him on this because this is just what politicians do.

00:31:43.240 But Christie did a good job of kind of nailing him down on this.

00:31:45.560 He will be asked a question that would maybe run him afoul of the base if he answers it

00:31:51.920 to deciding with the establishment, or will run him afoul of his donor establishment types

00:32:00.880 if he answers in the affirmative with the base.

00:32:04.100 And DeSantis will kind of split the difference by kind of saying something that is vague about

00:32:10.220 the issue and then pivoting to an experience, some actions he took, something he did.

00:32:15.560 That is tangentially related to the question, but does not actually deal with the substance

00:32:20.580 of the question.

00:32:21.220 They did this when it came to, would you send troops into Israel?

00:32:24.620 He kind of went with a, no, but maybe I don't really, but I was in the military.

00:32:30.140 And so I know what it is to have, you know, there was those kinds of responses.

00:32:33.660 And Christie really went after him a couple of times effectively on that.

00:32:37.520 Christie also correctly pointed out the fact that nobody on the stage was really willing to

00:32:44.080 go after Donald Trump.

00:32:45.620 And that's because Christie is the only guy who knows he, or who's really not running for

00:32:50.000 a Republican nomination at all.

00:32:51.860 Christie is running for like, I don't know, MSNBC spots or something.

00:32:55.440 He is obviously, he hates Donald Trump.

00:32:57.760 He does not like the Republican base.

00:32:59.900 He's not interested in his position in the party really anymore.

00:33:03.800 He's really only interested in ingratiating himself with power.

00:33:06.980 Otherwise he's looking for that strange new respect that is handed out by the left.

00:33:11.000 So often once you kind of stab the right in the back, and so he's willing to go after

00:33:15.760 Donald Trump and he's right that this does give him an air of credibility on that stage

00:33:20.260 because everyone else on that stage is running against Donald Trump in theory, but all of

00:33:25.660 them know that Donald Trump is so popular with the base that taking hits against Trump will

00:33:30.540 actually play badly for them.

00:33:32.020 So for instance, again, Ron DeSantis, when asked, did he think that Trump was incompetent

00:33:37.640 or like Joe Biden, mentally unable to do the job, which he had kind of indicated in his

00:33:43.940 prior remarks?

00:33:46.640 It's very clear that that was what DeSantis was saying.

00:33:49.100 He should have just owned it, but he didn't.

00:33:51.680 And because he didn't, he looked bad on stage as Christie just said, you know, look, you are

00:33:55.780 insinuating that he can't do the job, that he's too old, but you won't just say it.

00:34:00.200 And that makes you look dishonest.

00:34:01.640 And he's got a point there.

00:34:02.780 Same thing with Vivek.

00:34:04.380 Vivek though does do a good thing.

00:34:06.120 He kind of pivots away and says, well, I don't think Trump is the real problem, right?

00:34:10.720 I'm just running because I don't think that Trump is going to be able to run or he's not,

00:34:15.400 he's going to have an issue.

00:34:16.920 And so I, but I don't think he's the big issue.

00:34:19.320 I think there's other, other issues that are more important.

00:34:21.840 And then Haley, obviously she just, again, they know that they can't really hit Trump

00:34:26.020 because he's way more popular than them.

00:34:28.060 He's so far ahead.

00:34:29.480 They have to hedge their bets constantly.

00:34:31.060 So, so Christie, while, you know, obviously he's not going to win anything.

00:34:35.280 He did, he did have some value in that.

00:34:37.840 He did help hold people's feet to the fire in these areas.

00:34:41.100 And that's kind of important.

00:34:42.380 The other thing I want to talk about, or one of the other things I want to talk about is

00:34:46.580 the defense of internet anonymity.

00:34:49.440 That was a very interesting thing that came up, up both Vivek and DeSantis went after Nikki

00:34:56.320 Haley on the issue of internet anonymity.

00:34:59.560 They both held her feet to the fire.

00:35:00.700 She tried to back away from her position, which was very clearly stated.

00:35:04.680 She said that she thought that the social media companies, the tech companies should

00:35:08.940 have to show their algorithm to the United States government.

00:35:11.660 And also that everyone on the internet should have the real name attached to their, uh, their

00:35:17.900 internet identity.

00:35:18.840 So no more synonymous posting, no more anonymous posting.

00:35:22.360 Instead, everyone should have to show their name on the internet.

00:35:25.780 No, Brian DeSantis could not, uh, pronounce Publius, but he correctly pointed out that

00:35:31.480 the founders themselves, uh, published the Federalist Papers under anonymous names.

00:35:36.960 It was very common practice for the people to write letters to the editor under an anonymous

00:35:41.380 name at that time.

00:35:43.200 This is how many of the debates during the founding of the United States and in its critical

00:35:47.440 years after its founding happened.

00:35:49.480 And so this is something that is part of the United States tradition.

00:35:53.240 It's very clear that the United States government wants to destroy internet, internet anonymity.

00:35:59.780 That's why they're going after people like, uh, Ricky Vaughn, Douglas Mackey, who is currently

00:36:06.000 sentenced to seven months in jail for making fun of Hillary Clinton by making a meme, you

00:36:11.800 know, make up all these, all these bogus charges about how he was deceiving people, uh, when

00:36:16.640 it came to election time, just so that they can punish him.

00:36:18.820 Uh, they are trying to put people on notice.

00:36:20.920 They're trying to scare people about this.

00:36:23.020 This is a critical part of, uh, the ability of people to speak freely in the United States.

00:36:27.720 The United States is incredibly censorious.

00:36:29.860 Uh, free speech is functionally done in the United States, uh, due to the ability, uh, and

00:36:35.260 cooperation of intelligence agencies, corporations, and political parties to smother speech inside

00:36:42.280 the borders of this country.

00:36:43.880 And anonymity is a critical way to avoid that.

00:36:47.280 It allows people to continue to say important things.

00:36:50.280 Does that mean that some mean, nasty things get said?

00:36:53.040 So untrue things get said?

00:36:54.280 Yes, it does.

00:36:54.840 Absolutely.

00:36:55.740 However, it is far more important for people to be able to air their opinions than it is

00:37:00.160 for Nikki Haley's feelings to not get hurt.

00:37:02.760 And so it was really nice to see both DeSantis and Vivek go after her for this.

00:37:08.180 I think that it's really critical that this is becoming a, uh, kind of a good consensus inside

00:37:14.100 the Republican party, that this is the way to approach this.

00:37:17.040 It was nice to hear DeSantis, who sometimes can be a little establishment-y in some of

00:37:21.300 his takes.

00:37:21.720 It was nice to hear him take this tack.

00:37:23.880 Uh, I think it's really important.

00:37:25.420 Uh, and it was very interesting the way he said this, he specifically used the, uh, the

00:37:29.940 verbiage of the regime during this.

00:37:32.380 He said, he said, it's going to let the regime, uh, you know, kind of listen in on people

00:37:36.840 or put pressure on people, social pressure on people.

00:37:39.260 That's really important guys.

00:37:40.700 That that's a shift in language, um, that is almost entirely from kind of the, the,

00:37:46.420 uh, the online, right.

00:37:47.720 Uh, that, that is something that got memed into the language of a major political candidate

00:37:53.220 that appeared in the debate because it has been brought forward.

00:37:58.220 And that is now in common usage.

00:38:00.060 It is really, it's a really important mentality shift that somebody like Ron DeSantis would now

00:38:06.780 refer to the United States government as if it is a threat to its citizens, because of

00:38:12.120 course it is.

00:38:12.840 The United States government is the most important threat to its citizens is more of a threat

00:38:17.480 than Russia or China or whatever else is out there.

00:38:20.900 And the fact that he is using language that acknowledges that is a huge shift in kind of

00:38:26.880 the Overton window.

00:38:27.860 So that was really nice to see.

00:38:30.200 Uh, there's also something important that, uh, DeSantis said that he mentioned, uh, was a,

00:38:36.160 uh, the, his interest in making universities back college loans.

00:38:41.180 That's something that I have talked about, uh, repeatedly.

00:38:45.260 Uh, I think that it's, it's really critical, uh, that we shift that when we look, especially

00:38:51.140 when the GOP looks at the issue of, of student debt, even though, yes, I, you know, we shouldn't

00:38:56.520 be just paying off all of these student loans.

00:38:58.520 I agree with that, that we should look at addressing this issue.

00:39:01.620 The fact that there is predatory lending, lending, that there is usury happening and

00:39:06.060 that entire generations of people have been made basically debt slaves to the government

00:39:12.140 and to these universities because these universities wanted to enrich themselves.

00:39:16.140 They've made themselves basically the only option for class mobility for many people who

00:39:21.220 want to enter in to certain jobs.

00:39:24.740 They are the only way for people to get the necessary credentials.

00:39:27.600 And so I think the fact that, and as Stepman and other people have suggested that we should

00:39:32.200 tie, uh, the payment of these loans to the universities themselves, make them liable in

00:39:39.420 some way is critical.

00:39:40.780 If we want to pay back the loans, we should use it by seizing the endowments that already

00:39:44.080 exist in these universities.

00:39:45.620 And if we're going to continue to offer these loans in any way, shape, form, or fashion, we

00:39:50.100 should tie them directly to those institutions, make them partially or, or mostly liable for

00:39:56.880 those for the, or defaults on those.

00:39:58.800 I think that is a really important issue.

00:40:00.680 I'm glad that he brought that up.

00:40:02.100 I think that's, that's really key.

00:40:04.700 All right.

00:40:05.840 So, uh, what else did we have here?

00:40:09.180 Uh, oh, Vivek and the administrative state.

00:40:12.000 So Vivek, uh, repeatedly, uh, brought up the administrative state, which I think is critical.

00:40:17.920 Uh, he acknowledged the fact that elected politicians are not running the government.

00:40:22.340 He's just saying that out loud that the, he's acknowledging that the managerial regime is

00:40:26.800 the one that actually runs the United States government, that the deep state, and more

00:40:30.640 importantly, cause the term, so the term deep state is good.

00:40:33.140 It acknowledges that for instance, the FBI, the CIA, all of these other government agencies,

00:40:39.220 the established bureaucracies inside of them wield power.

00:40:42.180 But I think it's critical for people to understand that the managerial regime moves.

00:40:46.080 It's not just like spooky smoking man, government agencies, X-files stuff.

00:40:51.800 It's also your corporations.

00:40:53.260 It's your media.

00:40:54.500 It's your academia.

00:40:55.860 The, the, the, the entire managerial class working across these different disciplines

00:40:59.700 is what's actually running the government.

00:41:01.720 The fact that he's bringing that to the forefront, the fact that he's talking about that as the

00:41:06.560 thing to address, Hey, it's not Joe Biden that actually runs the government.

00:41:09.980 Hey, it's not the Congress that's actually making the decision.

00:41:12.720 And it's these agencies to which the power has been delegated that are actually running

00:41:17.460 the show.

00:41:18.040 I think that that's key.

00:41:19.440 I'm really glad that he's bringing that up because I think that's a mentality shift that

00:41:22.680 has to occur inside the Republican party, inside the opposition, if there's going to

00:41:27.080 be any real, uh, addressing of the issues at hand.

00:41:31.680 So I think that this was a good debate.

00:41:38.040 Oh, I wanted to play one, one more clip for you here real quick.

00:41:40.300 This is my favorite conspiracy theory of the night.

00:41:42.520 Here's Nikki Haley, uh, talking about, uh, Vladimir Putin's birthday present from Hamas. 0.81

00:41:48.540 Hold on.

00:41:49.260 Was losing that war with Ukraine.

00:41:51.760 Putin had hit rock bottom.

00:41:53.080 They had raised the draft age to 65.

00:41:55.220 He was getting drones and missiles, drones from Iran, missiles from North Korea.

00:41:59.680 And so what happened when he hit rock bottom, all of a sudden his other friend, Iran, Hamas 1.00

00:42:06.320 goes and invades Israel and butchers those people on Putin's birthday.

00:42:11.220 There is no one happier right now than Putin because all of the attention America had on

00:42:16.700 Ukraine suddenly went to Israel.

00:42:18.780 And that's what they were hoping is going to happen.

00:42:20.980 So, uh, very, very fun conspiracy theory from Nikki Haley there that, uh, that Hamas launched 0.88

00:42:26.820 their attack into, into, uh, Israel on Israeli civilians only to draw attention away from Ukraine.

00:42:34.340 So the United States would stop supporting Ukraine or would stop giving its full attention

00:42:38.400 to Ukraine and instead would focus on, uh, uh, the events there.

00:42:43.180 Uh, again, just the, it was nice that the, unlike the last debate, the first 45 minutes of this one

00:42:52.800 were not anything but America.

00:42:54.520 It was nice that, that many of the questions asked during this debate were actually about America and

00:42:59.320 his interest and was not uniquely about whether, you know, we're sending money to Ukraine or Israel

00:43:04.240 and who can send the most. It was nice to see that shift. Uh, but, but, but it was definitely

00:43:08.500 funny to watch, uh, kind of Haley, uh, come up with this conspiracy theory. Now, I mean, there,

00:43:14.200 there's very interesting that a lot of these people, unfortunately invested themselves in the idea

00:43:18.960 that Ukraine was going to defeat Putin, that this was going to be kind of the, the Russian, uh, well,

00:43:24.720 I guess another Russian Afghanistan, cause they already did that once. Uh, but then in actual

00:43:29.560 Afghanistan, but this, this was going to be there, another Vietnam for them. This is where they were 0.71

00:43:33.580 going to drag out and they were going to pleat all of his resources. Uh, they thought that that was

00:43:38.440 going to be a key part of kind of their strategy going forward. Uh, and that just did not end up being

00:43:44.880 the case. And that hurt a lot of people, uh, I think who invested in that narrative. However, uh,

00:43:51.180 it's very clear that's not going to be the case. Um, and that overall that the United States paid a,

00:43:58.300 paid a decent, uh, price, uh, well, uh, rather large price in, in funding, uh, for this, of course,

00:44:04.880 that seems to have been, uh, incentivized by politicians who are possibly going to profit from

00:44:09.920 that fact that Nikki Haley happens to be someone who profited quite a bit from sitting on the boards

00:44:15.460 of, of, uh, defense contractors, you know, probably not a total coincidence there. Uh, but

00:44:21.160 this is a big loss for them that this happened. Of course, uh, you know, that's a huge loss for the

00:44:27.580 people of Ukraine. Uh, many of which were, were kind of thrown into the grinder, uh, as the, as 0.84

00:44:32.780 NATO decided that it was going to fight, uh, Russia to the very last Ukrainian. Uh, and you heard

00:44:38.320 people like Mitch McConnell say this, that they're more than happy to just throw waves of Ukrainian 1.00

00:44:42.400 men into, uh, Russian bullets until, uh, you know, Vladimir Putin goes bankrupt. That strategy has not

00:44:49.280 worked out for them. Uh, and I think that, uh, it's, it's horrific that they engaged in it in

00:44:53.820 the first place. Uh, and now that we're coming up with conspiracy theories as to why, uh, that

00:44:58.500 strategy didn't work, uh, it just kind of shows you, uh, kind of, kind of the desperation that many

00:45:03.960 neoconservatives are kind of in as they kind of go to this free fall of, uh, the, of what looks like

00:45:09.600 a loss by Ukraine, uh, on the battlefield. All right, guys, we're going to pivot over to,

00:45:15.300 uh, the questions of the people real quick. So we have perspicacious heretic here for $5. 1.00

00:45:24.980 Thank you to CNN. The term Nazi propaganda doesn't mean anything anyway, literally shaking right now.

00:45:31.100 Yeah. I just, I love that they did the literally shaking meme. And of course, yes, this doesn't

00:45:35.320 mean anything anymore, which is interesting, uh, in and of itself. Uh, that's, that's something that

00:45:41.320 the left has managed to do. Uh, they've gotten so extreme in their rhetoric that even their most,

00:45:46.500 their most vile slander doesn't really affect people anymore. Uh, and so that, that, uh, creates

00:45:52.800 an interesting scenario where a lot of people are willing to speak up about things that they would

00:45:57.300 not otherwise speak up about because the left has just cartooned themselves, uh, when it,

00:46:02.160 the clown themselves, when it comes to, uh, the way that they try to censor people. And it's just not

00:46:06.940 effective anymore. Uh, creeper weirdo here. Why are the MSM trying to make Nikki a thing? Yeah, 1.00

00:46:13.020 it is very interesting how hard they're trying to do that. She's every liberal outlets, favorite

00:46:18.060 Republican candidate. Remember she was a tea party candidate by the way. Uh, so that kind of shows 0.81

00:46:23.580 you how easily those moments, those movements get co-opted. Um, and now she's, she's every, uh,

00:46:30.040 left wing, uh, rags, favorite neocon. I think that's why they're trying to make her a thing. I think

00:46:35.720 that kind of answers your question. Uh, she is containment. I mean, look at the way she runs her 1.00

00:46:39.920 campaigns. She, she brings her kind of DEI, uh, credentials. She talks about how I'm the only

00:46:46.600 woman or I'm the only child of immigrants that could do this. Uh, you know, she talks like a 1.00

00:46:51.560 Democrat. She uses the language of the less to justify her position. Uh, she's just a nightmare 1.00

00:46:56.700 in pretty much every way when it comes to a Republican candidate. Uh, the fact that she is

00:47:02.000 more or less in second place right now, you know, very cringe. However, Donald Trump is, uh, destroying

00:47:09.480 her in the polls. So hopefully we don't have to worry about that. Uh, mint 20 says, and an Indian 1.00

00:47:16.140 calling out replacement migration. Yeah. I mean that, that is what it takes. I mean there, you know,

00:47:21.660 whether, whether we like it or not, unfortunately there is a certain shielding that comes from racial

00:47:27.860 identity in the United States to talk about these things. It's ugly. Uh, I think it shouldn't be the

00:47:32.840 case. I think that that's a, a Overton window that needs to be shattered, but it is just true

00:47:38.200 that unfortunately that a lot of people will use kind of their minority status to shield themselves to

00:47:44.540 then be able to talk about things that otherwise don't get talked about. And that is something that

00:47:48.940 Vivek is probably willing to do due to the fact that he kind of gets some defense there. Now, obviously

00:47:54.560 it's not a lot because Van Jones is still going to call him a Nazi either way. Right. So, you know,

00:47:58.980 what are you going to do? However, I am glad that that is being brought into discussion. I understand

00:48:04.500 a lot of people say, you know, look at again, Vivek's approach to things like, uh, bringing in,

00:48:10.160 uh, skilled labor to replace, uh, American labor in certain sectors as, as a problem. I agree with 0.61

00:48:16.280 that. However, it is just nice that he's bringing those, that issue to the forefront that just because

00:48:21.080 he brings, he's the one who brings to the forefront. It doesn't mean you have to agree with

00:48:24.000 him. It doesn't mean that you have to suddenly support him. It doesn't mean you have to align

00:48:27.580 with him, but people have to be able to take the W. And I think people need to recognize that when an

00:48:32.800 issue like this gets introduced to the zeitgeist, when the language like this is brought to the

00:48:38.120 forefront, you know, Tucker Carlson has been talking about this for a long time. He's been using this

00:48:42.960 language. So it's not just Vivek bringing it, but it is important. So, so, you know, don't shoot the

00:48:47.580 messenger on this one or don't, don't shoot the issue just because of the messenger. It's important

00:48:52.300 that it's getting mentioned. That doesn't mean you have to swear allegiance to the sky. Just

00:48:55.280 appreciate the fact that it's being brought forward. Uh, Cooper weirdo again, Christie cream

00:49:01.180 represented people of calories, not doing much else. It was really sad. Uh, well done. Excellent 1.00

00:49:08.100 wordplay. Uh, mint 20 here says also Christie calling anyone else a blowhard makes me want 0.90

00:49:13.120 to self delete. Yeah, that's, that's an excellent point. Uh, Chris Christie with very little room

00:49:18.520 to talk there. Uh, this very, very obviously, uh, the case. So, yeah, I mean, again, I think that the

00:49:26.520 way that Vivek delivers things sometimes push people the wrong way. Uh, you know, I think that he does

00:49:31.880 have a certain harshness that puts people off because he doesn't have that kind of, uh, playful

00:49:36.460 banter, uh, style that Trump had. I think Christie was addressing that he did get, I think some applause

00:49:42.120 for that. I did, he did get some acknowledgement for that. Uh, that could just be the crowd he was in at

00:49:46.320 that moment. But I think that that does play with a certain percentage of the base that still doesn't

00:49:51.920 want to see, you know, they want a certain level of the quorum, even though what we're watching is

00:49:55.220 obviously kind of a sideshow. Uh, Winston hashtag anime, right? Uh, says funny how the stream went down

00:50:04.020 when they asked Vivek about operation warp speed, surely GP donor class don't want to keep, uh, don't

00:50:10.520 want to keep watch and have taken it down. Uh, yeah, I, again, I think that, um, a lot of people

00:50:18.120 don't want to acknowledge, of course, what was done, uh, including people, you know, inside the Trump

00:50:23.120 administration, uh, during that time, uh, it's very clear that Trump turned over, uh, governance

00:50:30.080 basically to, uh, unelected bureaucrats to the managerial, uh, state, uh, that, that was basically

00:50:36.580 how his presidency was, uh, wrestled away from him, uh, in what should have been the last kind of

00:50:41.300 strong year or two. Uh, and, uh, I, I think that he has paid severe costs for that. Again, there's a

00:50:47.700 lot to criticize Trump about. I think that people who do so are absolutely legitimate in their

00:50:55.300 criticism of Trump. I think he deserves everything he gets, especially when it comes to the way he

00:50:59.520 handled the pandemic. Trump was not perfect. He wasn't even good in a lot of ways. Uh, but I do think

00:51:05.000 there's just certain truths that we have to understand about, uh, kind of the political

00:51:09.300 reality in the ground. And one of them is that for better or for worse, Trump is going to be the

00:51:13.260 nominee. And so the question is, what do you do with that? I think that Trump is better than a

00:51:18.060 number of these people, not because he himself has like, uh, qualities that I think compel him to be

00:51:24.600 the best leader, but that he does have a certain affinity to the base, a certain loyalty to the base

00:51:30.960 that many of these other people don't have and a willingness to break out of a lot

00:51:34.860 of the ideological boxes that are kind of set for people when they are beholden to donor money,

00:51:41.440 when they're beholden to a lot of these people, these consultants and others who are managing

00:51:46.260 what they do. Uh, ML whiz for $10. Thanks for the stream. Well, thank you very much, man. I

00:51:52.360 appreciate it. Thanks for coming by again, guys. Always great to have you live. Got a big live

00:51:56.240 audience today. Always nice to see everybody. Great to have you guys participating in the conversation,

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00:52:13.920 you can't make the live broadcast and come by for the stream, of course you can catch the reruns as

00:52:19.860 well. Uh, life of Brian here says what would be better a Trump nomination or the party cheats in

00:52:25.920 Haley. So that's an interesting question. So if the party cheats in Haley, that feels like it would

00:52:32.900 blow up the party, right? That would just destroy the Republican party because she's so not wanted 1.00

00:52:37.560 by the base. Uh, so that, that would have an interesting effect. Obviously like Trump having a

00:52:44.460 shot at the presidency, however, I think brings a whole shot at the system. And in a lot of ways,

00:52:50.600 that's who Trump is. Look, Trump is the rock you throw at the windows of the system. And this is

00:52:56.340 the argument I've made many times over. I understand people who backed DeSantis thinking he's a much more

00:53:01.020 competent guy in policy. They're, they're right about that. There's just no denying that truth.

00:53:05.880 However, the question is, do you think competency and policy is the key? Or do you think that someone

00:53:11.000 who is more likely to send the system into like anaphylactic shock is more important? I think that

00:53:17.340 that Trump is kind of the guy who does that. I think that's the more important thing. That's why I've

00:53:20.620 said, you know, he, he probably should get the nod and DeSantis should have waited, but I totally

00:53:25.340 understand people who have the other argument, but I think that's what Trump is. He's a shock to the

00:53:29.220 system for better, for worse. Um, John Morton here. Thank you for another great stream. You're on fire at

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The Auron MacIntyre Show - December 07, 2023

Vivek Calls Out Replacement Migration ｜ 12⧸7⧸23

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