The Auron MacIntyre Show - What Is the Woke Right？

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00:00:30.000 Hey everybody, how's it going?

00:00:32.260 Thanks for joining me this afternoon.

00:00:34.160 I am Oren McIntyre.

00:00:37.220 A new term has arisen from kind of the rational centrists.

00:00:43.500 It has come from many mainstream conservatives as well.

00:00:47.500 Many establishment conservatives are also using this phrase.

00:00:51.600 You see it especially used to attack the new Christian right,

00:00:56.360 or what many people would call Christian nationalists.

00:00:59.060 The new term is called the woke right.

00:01:02.220 And obviously this comes from the classic strategy of saying,

00:01:06.020 oh, something my enemy does, I don't like it,

00:01:08.660 and so I will apply it to other people I don't like,

00:01:11.880 and therefore, boom, I have a new term.

00:01:14.500 Right?

00:01:14.660 This is the new term of containment.

00:01:16.720 The left is woke, and the people on the right I don't like are also woke.

00:01:21.400 Everything I don't like is woke.

00:01:23.380 It's like communism or fascism, right?

00:01:25.580 Everything I don't like is this thing,

00:01:27.900 and therefore, I win the debate,

00:01:29.400 because I've attached the term that I don't like to this.

00:01:31.840 It's a little bit of the new version of horseshoe theory,

00:01:34.940 but I want to dive into this term,

00:01:36.580 because I think the people trying to establishment,

00:01:39.700 while they're failing quite miserably,

00:01:42.140 they are revealing a couple of different issues

00:01:45.240 that the old, or I should say the established right,

00:01:48.580 has with the current right, the emerging right.

00:01:52.180 It's a little weird to call what's happening right now the new right,

00:01:55.260 because really, it's a resurgence in many ways

00:01:58.100 of what used to be the old right

00:01:59.720 before kind of the William F. Buckley National Review crowd

00:02:03.520 purged out much of real right-wing thought in the United States.

00:02:08.220 So new and old can be pretty confusing terms

00:02:10.740 when we talk about the right wing,

00:02:12.820 but I want to talk about the term the new right,

00:02:14.720 why people are deciding to use it,

00:02:17.120 what issues they're taking with kind of the emerging opposition

00:02:20.580 to the status quo,

00:02:22.000 and how we should probably think about political opposition going forward,

00:02:26.520 what's effective, what should be discarded,

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00:05:00.060 All right, so the woke right.

00:05:02.440 What is it?

00:05:02.900 Where did this come from?

00:05:04.060 Why do we suddenly have to hear this all of a sudden?

00:05:06.560 If you paid any attention to what is happening,

00:05:09.480 particularly with the Christian nationalist bloc,

00:05:13.000 there are a lot of people pushing back

00:05:14.480 on this new emergent right wing,

00:05:18.600 one that is not interested in neocon foreign policy

00:05:21.900 or economics, is not primarily interested

00:05:24.320 in playing the loyal opposition to a regime

00:05:26.960 that is destroying the United States,

00:05:29.300 is not interested in playing the game of neutrality

00:05:31.720 when it's very clear that our country

00:05:34.020 is pushing a particular agenda,

00:05:35.840 a particular moral vision.

00:05:37.680 This is a group of people on the right

00:05:39.920 who actually want to go ahead and make a difference.

00:05:42.780 They see what is happening.

00:05:44.480 They see that the strategy that has been implemented

00:05:46.820 by the conservative movement for decades

00:05:49.580 is a failure.

00:05:50.580 It has failed to conserve everything

00:05:52.540 and it's pretended to care about.

00:05:54.720 It is prioritized following the rules

00:05:57.480 of some kind of rigged game

00:05:59.160 instead of prioritizing the well-being

00:06:01.960 of the people of the United States

00:06:04.320 and the moral vision shared by so many

00:06:06.880 in the United States,

00:06:08.120 one that was set forward in many ways

00:06:09.940 by the founding fathers.

00:06:11.400 They are very tired of this controlled opposition

00:06:14.480 and they want to try something new.

00:06:16.120 Now, like I said, a lot of this is centered

00:06:18.140 on the Christian nationalists,

00:06:21.280 but it's not exclusive to them.

00:06:22.620 I myself, like I've said many times,

00:06:24.880 have a few issues with Christian nationalism,

00:06:28.120 its terminology and its application.

00:06:30.760 But ultimately, I agree with them

00:06:32.860 that the current situation we have is untenable,

00:06:35.740 that this is something that needs to be pushed back

00:06:37.740 against in a real and meaningful way,

00:06:40.120 and that we need to shift the way

00:06:42.560 that we understand political power

00:06:44.940 and political neutrality

00:06:46.900 if we're going to have any impact

00:06:48.540 on the wider culture

00:06:50.120 and the wider political framework

00:06:52.180 inside the United States.

00:06:54.660 So for those who go ahead and criticize

00:06:57.460 people who want to do this unorthodox opposition

00:07:01.940 to the regime as the woke right,

00:07:05.040 what are some of the things

00:07:06.300 that they think makes this woke?

00:07:08.460 What about this approach to right-wing

00:07:10.720 or conservative ideas,

00:07:13.020 however you want to frame this,

00:07:14.760 this traditional idea?

00:07:16.240 What approach about this makes this woke?

00:07:19.040 Why is this the woke right?

00:07:20.640 Well, there are three main pillars,

00:07:22.780 I think, that they attack

00:07:24.660 when they try to criticize opposition

00:07:27.780 to the current status quo

00:07:29.520 as the woke right.

00:07:31.560 And I want to make it very clear

00:07:32.540 that ultimately this is opposition

00:07:33.920 to the status quo.

00:07:35.140 Most of the people throwing this language out

00:07:36.720 are like, oh, well,

00:07:37.580 I oppose the transitioning of children,

00:07:39.700 and so therefore I'm a conservative.

00:07:42.280 Well, that's great.

00:07:43.000 I think you should do that.

00:07:44.100 It's horrific.

00:07:44.960 It's the bare minimum

00:07:45.900 of being a socially acceptable human

00:07:48.300 to oppose the physical mutilation of children.

00:07:51.960 Good for you, I guess.

00:07:53.680 Congratulations.

00:07:54.520 This does not make you a conservative.

00:07:56.500 This is the bare minimum for being a human.

00:07:59.340 And so coming in here and telling me that,

00:08:01.280 oh, well, this is what makes me

00:08:03.040 the establishment conservative.

00:08:04.380 It's conservative, okay, I guess.

00:08:06.500 But no, that is insufficient

00:08:08.140 to what we are looking at here.

00:08:10.420 I think there are three things

00:08:13.100 that they tend to attack

00:08:14.500 about the right that is actually

00:08:16.320 trying to be effective,

00:08:17.520 the real right, consistently.

00:08:19.840 And so I want to run through those real quick.

00:08:22.260 The first one is the use of power.

00:08:26.500 So many people who are in this kind of containment,

00:08:30.180 rational centrist,

00:08:31.680 establishment conservative scenario,

00:08:33.780 they fear the application of power, right?

00:08:36.680 The old idea is that the conservatives,

00:08:40.580 they worry about government power.

00:08:42.320 We should never use government power,

00:08:43.940 no matter what.

00:08:45.140 That's our first principle.

00:08:46.320 Small government, no use of power.

00:08:48.820 And so it's really important

00:08:49.820 that when you win an election,

00:08:51.560 the only thing you do is maybe reduce,

00:08:53.820 cut back on the things that the left has done,

00:08:55.800 but you don't actually do anything.

00:08:57.540 You don't take any substantive action.

00:08:59.900 Your job is really just to roll back,

00:09:02.160 to kind of play, to tap the brake on the left, right?

00:09:05.820 That you're the regulator

00:09:07.480 that keeps the reaction

00:09:09.820 from going completely out of control.

00:09:11.840 That's your only purpose.

00:09:13.360 Of course, what a lot of people are recognizing

00:09:15.680 is that by playing this game for so long,

00:09:18.240 conservatives, the right,

00:09:19.360 have boxed themselves into this scenario

00:09:21.860 in which the constitution,

00:09:24.820 you know, even if you just believe

00:09:26.480 in the basics of the constitution,

00:09:28.640 they made it clear,

00:09:29.480 the founders made it clear

00:09:30.340 that it was ambition checking ambition

00:09:32.340 that would control the power

00:09:34.380 of opposing political parties.

00:09:36.100 If you have one side that says,

00:09:38.340 okay, well, we're going to use power

00:09:40.000 and one side that says,

00:09:41.280 well, we're never going to use power.

00:09:42.780 That's our main goal.

00:09:44.640 That's our main ideology

00:09:46.200 is we just never use power.

00:09:47.980 That's what we see as our principles.

00:09:49.900 Well, the side that's going to use power

00:09:51.400 is going to win

00:09:52.100 because the founding fathers

00:09:53.940 did not set up a system

00:09:54.860 where one side uses power

00:09:56.620 and the other side doesn't.

00:09:57.980 And that's what fixes things.

00:09:59.420 They specifically said,

00:10:00.780 look, no, it's the ambition of each side

00:10:02.940 pushing against each other

00:10:04.260 that will ultimately check each other

00:10:05.960 and the mutually assured destruction strategy.

00:10:08.120 The idea that you don't use this power,

00:10:10.800 this weapon only works

00:10:13.180 if the other guys know that if they do,

00:10:15.780 you will fight back,

00:10:16.980 that you will create a significant blowback,

00:10:19.600 a significant cost for what they do.

00:10:21.640 But if you've stated that your principle

00:10:23.400 is we never fight back,

00:10:24.760 we never take power,

00:10:26.020 then you're a fool

00:10:27.240 and your opponents are going to run all over you.

00:10:29.200 And they have in every situation.

00:10:31.320 We see this.

00:10:31.920 The left gets into office.

00:10:33.280 They make radical changes.

00:10:34.700 They use the power of the office

00:10:36.540 and they use coordinated powers

00:10:38.420 with other portions

00:10:40.160 of what I call the total state,

00:10:42.060 the academia,

00:10:43.620 the unelected bureaucracy,

00:10:46.220 the media,

00:10:47.160 all of these things,

00:10:48.040 corporations,

00:10:48.480 corporations.

00:10:49.500 They act simultaneously

00:10:51.020 to grab as much power as possible.

00:10:53.640 And when the right gets in power,

00:10:54.820 all they do is say,

00:10:56.400 OK, well,

00:10:56.880 we're going to slow that down a little bit.

00:10:58.840 Maybe we'll even undo one or two things.

00:11:00.800 But usually that's too much.

00:11:02.100 You know,

00:11:02.320 don't let's not get crazy.

00:11:03.820 You know,

00:11:04.580 Ronald Reagan ran on

00:11:05.900 on getting rid of the Department of Education.

00:11:08.560 And in 2024,

00:11:10.160 the Department of Education is still here.

00:11:11.800 So conservatives have just failed

00:11:13.600 to get rid of the vast majority

00:11:15.220 of even brand new.

00:11:17.180 That's it was brand new at the time.

00:11:18.460 The Department of Education

00:11:19.340 conservatives have failed

00:11:20.460 to get rid of even brand new

00:11:22.120 leftist policies

00:11:23.600 on a very regular basis.

00:11:25.180 But maybe,

00:11:26.180 you know,

00:11:26.460 in these big moments

00:11:27.880 when they have their big victories,

00:11:29.760 they'll roll back something significant.

00:11:31.780 You know,

00:11:32.300 we saw

00:11:32.980 that's recently

00:11:35.580 with the Supreme Court

00:11:36.560 after many,

00:11:37.640 many decades

00:11:38.120 of things like affirmative action

00:11:39.680 and Roe v. Wade.

00:11:40.600 Those rulings have

00:11:41.920 finally been slightly rolled back

00:11:44.040 by the Supreme Court.

00:11:45.260 But, you know,

00:11:45.680 they became the law of the land

00:11:47.200 for many decades

00:11:48.340 and shaped policy,

00:11:49.820 shaped the thinking of Americans.

00:11:52.280 And ultimately,

00:11:53.080 conservatives are starting to realize this.

00:11:55.100 Look,

00:11:55.260 every time our opponents are in power,

00:11:57.640 they make massive moves

00:11:58.980 and we get in power

00:11:59.840 and our first principle is,

00:12:01.480 oh, no,

00:12:01.800 we don't do anything.

00:12:02.720 We never take power.

00:12:04.620 And, you know,

00:12:05.400 we can get completely destroyed

00:12:07.680 in the meantime.

00:12:08.600 Yeah, okay,

00:12:09.060 you can close the border

00:12:10.140 a little bit

00:12:10.660 while Trump is in power,

00:12:12.100 but if Biden leaves

00:12:13.140 the border open

00:12:14.240 for his entire presidency,

00:12:15.860 then it doesn't really matter

00:12:18.080 because he has brought in

00:12:19.140 so many new voters

00:12:20.520 and so many generations

00:12:21.660 of new voters

00:12:22.800 that will be more likely

00:12:24.200 to be loyal to the left

00:12:25.460 that he permanently changes

00:12:26.860 both the demographics

00:12:27.640 and the democracy

00:12:28.620 of the United States

00:12:29.900 for many, many years,

00:12:32.120 many, many decades,

00:12:33.060 possibly beyond that.

00:12:34.700 And so, yeah,

00:12:35.380 you have to win

00:12:36.220 basically every time

00:12:37.400 and they have to only win once

00:12:39.120 to go ahead and shift things

00:12:40.540 in a permanent basis

00:12:41.280 because they're willing

00:12:41.980 to use power

00:12:42.660 and you're not.

00:12:44.480 This also means

00:12:45.260 that a lot of people

00:12:46.320 are recognizing on the right

00:12:47.880 that you need to

00:12:49.140 you need to understand

00:12:50.840 that things are not neutral.

00:12:52.620 Our institutions

00:12:53.240 are not neutral.

00:12:54.180 They were never neutral.

00:12:55.740 The neutrality

00:12:56.240 of our institutions

00:12:56.900 is a lie.

00:12:58.340 Sorry,

00:12:58.820 but it turns out

00:12:59.840 that every one

00:13:00.680 of these institutions

00:13:01.480 is run by people

00:13:02.560 and people have politics.

00:13:04.080 And so you don't solve

00:13:05.480 the questions of politics

00:13:06.780 by just handing power

00:13:08.680 over to these institutions

00:13:10.040 and saying,

00:13:10.860 oh, we're getting

00:13:11.460 the politics out of this, right?

00:13:12.800 We hear this all the time.

00:13:13.760 We need to get politics

00:13:14.880 out of our medicine.

00:13:15.900 We need to get politics

00:13:16.920 out of our social policies

00:13:18.920 or whatever.

00:13:19.720 But that never works

00:13:21.020 because actually

00:13:21.900 every one of these decisions

00:13:23.120 is informed by a worldview.

00:13:25.300 You never actually have

00:13:26.660 this political neutrality.

00:13:28.280 But all of these

00:13:29.180 establishment conservatives

00:13:30.900 and many of these

00:13:32.180 kind of radical centrist types

00:13:34.020 built their entire brand

00:13:35.780 on this, right?

00:13:36.820 It's all about low government,

00:13:38.220 small government.

00:13:39.180 It's all about,

00:13:39.800 you know,

00:13:40.660 individual liberty.

00:13:42.200 We have to let the experts

00:13:44.620 do their thing.

00:13:45.580 That's what matters.

00:13:47.160 It's about letting

00:13:47.640 these institutions operate

00:13:49.180 in this apolitical way

00:13:50.780 that organizing the world

00:13:52.460 in that way

00:13:53.020 allows us to avoid

00:13:54.100 any of the big questions.

00:13:55.620 And that's really what matters.

00:13:56.900 When we're in power,

00:13:58.100 we should be trying

00:13:59.160 to shrink the size of government

00:14:00.520 or something like that,

00:14:01.540 even though it seems

00:14:02.620 that we reliably fail

00:14:03.700 on this at every opportunity.

00:14:05.180 And we need to trust

00:14:05.880 the neutrality

00:14:06.540 of every one of these,

00:14:07.540 you know,

00:14:07.940 these operations

00:14:08.640 and institutions.

00:14:10.120 And so they see conservatives

00:14:11.420 finally saying things like,

00:14:13.580 OK, I mean, sure,

00:14:15.680 you keep saying

00:14:16.720 that we have these

00:14:17.340 neutral institutions,

00:14:18.600 but we lose every time.

00:14:20.140 Maybe we should be

00:14:21.240 applying power.

00:14:22.200 Maybe when we get into power,

00:14:23.560 we should go ahead

00:14:24.600 and set things up

00:14:25.440 in a way that benefits us,

00:14:26.860 benefits the people

00:14:27.500 that we care about,

00:14:28.840 that we think

00:14:29.520 are going to continue

00:14:30.280 to vote for us,

00:14:31.440 that we are serving them first.

00:14:33.300 When the left votes

00:14:34.620 for someone,

00:14:35.580 they have a very basic

00:14:36.800 political interaction

00:14:37.980 with that person.

00:14:39.120 They say, OK,

00:14:40.520 you vote for me

00:14:41.600 and I will give you stuff

00:14:42.920 or I will achieve

00:14:43.820 a goal for you.

00:14:44.980 I will look for these things,

00:14:46.140 right?

00:14:46.560 The libertarians

00:14:47.420 had the shock

00:14:48.300 with Trump recently.

00:14:50.300 Trump shows up

00:14:50.900 to the libertarian

00:14:51.860 convention famously,

00:14:54.400 right?

00:14:54.960 It's a big coup

00:14:55.840 for the libertarians

00:14:56.500 to have somebody

00:14:57.340 like Trump

00:14:57.920 get in front of them.

00:14:58.780 I believe they had RFK

00:14:59.600 as well.

00:15:00.520 And Trump promises

00:15:01.320 them something.

00:15:02.020 He says, look,

00:15:02.500 I'm going to put somebody

00:15:03.540 in office.

00:15:06.320 I'm going to put somebody

00:15:06.840 in my cabinet

00:15:07.460 who's a libertarian.

00:15:08.780 I will give you

00:15:09.500 a seat at the table

00:15:10.940 and let people know

00:15:12.080 that you are relevant.

00:15:12.960 I'll also go ahead

00:15:13.680 and pardon some people

00:15:15.340 that you think

00:15:16.300 it's a high priority.

00:15:17.120 Go ahead and pardon.

00:15:17.740 It's the founder

00:15:18.220 of the Silk Road.

00:15:18.980 I forget his name.

00:15:20.200 But I'm going to do

00:15:21.640 things for you.

00:15:22.640 Like you vote for me

00:15:23.740 and I will deliver

00:15:24.640 you wins on issues

00:15:26.220 and things, right?

00:15:27.100 And this is a very

00:15:27.680 confusing thing.

00:15:28.440 Like a lot of libertarians

00:15:29.940 booed him.

00:15:31.240 You know,

00:15:31.420 some people are saying,

00:15:32.280 well, this is a very odd,

00:15:33.260 odd way of doing politics.

00:15:34.920 No, this is the most basic

00:15:35.920 way of doing politics.

00:15:37.100 This is what politics is.

00:15:38.660 It's patronage.

00:15:39.860 You go in front of people.

00:15:41.460 You say,

00:15:41.780 I'm going to do something

00:15:42.880 for you.

00:15:43.360 I'm going to secure

00:15:44.300 something for you

00:15:45.140 that you will appreciate

00:15:46.220 and you will vote for me.

00:15:47.700 That reciprocal relationship

00:15:48.940 is not crazy.

00:15:50.220 It's just what basically

00:15:51.480 every non-ideological

00:15:53.220 politician did

00:15:55.220 before kind of our current era

00:15:56.840 in which everything

00:15:57.660 has to be hyper-ideological.

00:15:59.900 And the left still gets to play

00:16:00.700 this kind of politics

00:16:01.480 all the time, right?

00:16:02.300 They get to demand

00:16:03.180 particular gimmies.

00:16:04.560 They get to demand

00:16:05.620 particular programs.

00:16:07.120 They get to demand

00:16:08.060 a seat at the table

00:16:09.700 in different power structures.

00:16:11.320 They get to fight

00:16:12.360 for control

00:16:13.000 of different institutions.

00:16:14.100 And they get to do this

00:16:15.200 without any kind of shame

00:16:16.480 because that's the type

00:16:17.940 of politics

00:16:18.400 that they're allowed to do.

00:16:20.240 And this is something

00:16:20.860 that worries

00:16:21.680 establishment conservatives

00:16:23.000 very much

00:16:23.780 because this is not

00:16:24.480 the type of politics

00:16:25.280 we do, right?

00:16:26.520 We don't deliver anything.

00:16:28.320 GOP voters

00:16:28.940 are just supposed to vote

00:16:29.900 for the GOP

00:16:30.980 because like lower taxes

00:16:32.560 or something.

00:16:33.260 And they're never supposed

00:16:34.120 to actually expect

00:16:35.060 anything of substance

00:16:36.140 from their government.

00:16:37.180 They're never supposed

00:16:37.720 to expect any real

00:16:39.140 tangible benefit

00:16:40.280 other than maybe

00:16:41.240 getting to keep

00:16:42.160 a little bit of extra money

00:16:43.220 in their pocket

00:16:43.860 from the people

00:16:44.940 that they elect.

00:16:46.280 And so this bizarre

00:16:47.120 form of politics

00:16:48.340 Trump is doing

00:16:50.760 really shook people

00:16:52.160 like libertarians

00:16:53.020 who are used to

00:16:53.980 this hyper-ideological

00:16:55.700 understanding of politics.

00:16:57.520 Everything needs

00:16:57.980 to be neutral.

00:17:00.200 Everything needs

00:17:00.640 to be about small government.

00:17:01.980 We don't do things

00:17:03.100 for people

00:17:03.640 when we do politics.

00:17:04.800 That would be crazy, right?

00:17:06.620 And that's another thing

00:17:07.640 about Trump, right?

00:17:08.520 And this is the second thing

00:17:09.620 that the people

00:17:10.500 who are trying to criticize

00:17:11.780 the quote-unquote

00:17:12.940 woke right will do

00:17:14.360 is they don't like

00:17:15.560 the fact

00:17:15.980 that people like Trump

00:17:17.540 care more about

00:17:18.480 the people

00:17:19.140 of the United States

00:17:20.960 than they care

00:17:21.700 about the ideology

00:17:22.840 that's supposed

00:17:23.760 to undergird

00:17:24.500 the United States.

00:17:25.880 This is often

00:17:26.740 the people who say

00:17:27.540 America is a dream

00:17:29.280 or, you know,

00:17:29.980 it's the Martin Luther King thing.

00:17:31.140 America is essentially

00:17:31.880 a dream

00:17:32.460 or America

00:17:33.100 is a set of ideals

00:17:34.620 or principles.

00:17:36.000 And no,

00:17:37.060 America is not

00:17:37.960 those things.

00:17:38.720 America is a nation.

00:17:40.360 It is a people.

00:17:41.600 And we have confused this.

00:17:43.200 We've conflated this.

00:17:44.800 The modern understanding

00:17:45.960 of the nation-state

00:17:47.220 is relatively new.

00:17:49.380 It's not the way

00:17:50.120 that most people

00:17:50.720 have existed

00:17:51.400 throughout history.

00:17:52.820 They understood

00:17:53.480 that peoples

00:17:54.140 and nations

00:17:54.720 were one thing

00:17:55.660 and that states

00:17:56.940 or governments

00:17:57.880 are another.

00:17:59.360 And that gets conflated

00:18:00.400 very often,

00:18:01.000 especially because

00:18:01.500 in the United States

00:18:02.460 we were a collection

00:18:03.520 of states,

00:18:04.700 a collection of governments

00:18:06.120 that became

00:18:06.760 one government.

00:18:07.880 And so people use

00:18:08.680 the word state

00:18:09.300 in a very confused manner.

00:18:11.240 And so the thing

00:18:12.380 that we need to remember

00:18:13.280 when we're talking

00:18:14.040 about this

00:18:14.660 is that the United States

00:18:15.960 for this new

00:18:17.260 emergent right

00:18:18.000 is not just a loose

00:18:19.700 set of principles,

00:18:20.560 but it's a specific

00:18:21.960 set of traditions,

00:18:23.680 people,

00:18:24.380 language,

00:18:25.100 heritage,

00:18:25.800 history.

00:18:26.720 It's a connection

00:18:27.420 that is far more serious

00:18:29.340 and far more sacred,

00:18:30.960 right?

00:18:31.300 And that is really critical

00:18:32.940 because if you want,

00:18:34.800 if Donald Trump

00:18:35.220 is going to make promises,

00:18:36.520 he has to make them

00:18:37.760 to people.

00:18:38.820 He has to go

00:18:39.700 and say,

00:18:40.160 there are people

00:18:41.220 that I am looking after

00:18:43.060 whose well-being

00:18:44.120 I am prioritizing

00:18:45.460 and I will make them

00:18:46.640 promises as a politician

00:18:48.760 and that is something

00:18:49.680 that really worries.

00:18:50.680 You know,

00:18:50.860 when Donald Trump

00:18:51.600 got in there

00:18:52.240 and his opposition

00:18:53.560 to the neocon base

00:18:54.820 was just,

00:18:55.740 okay,

00:18:56.420 what does the average

00:18:57.500 middle class

00:18:58.320 or working class

00:18:59.260 GOP voter want to hear?

00:19:01.080 They want to hear

00:19:01.720 that they're going

00:19:02.120 to keep their job.

00:19:03.340 Okay,

00:19:03.640 well,

00:19:03.800 that turns out

00:19:04.440 that then I'm against

00:19:05.800 maybe this free trade mantra.

00:19:08.660 Maybe I do think

00:19:09.400 a certain level

00:19:10.080 of protectionism

00:19:10.820 or tariff

00:19:11.280 or whatever

00:19:11.600 is worth

00:19:12.380 getting involved in.

00:19:14.120 Maybe I need to look

00:19:14.860 at my trade policy.

00:19:16.120 Oh,

00:19:16.320 well,

00:19:16.480 let's see.

00:19:16.840 They also want to make sure

00:19:17.800 that their neighborhoods

00:19:18.660 are secure.

00:19:19.440 They're against crime.

00:19:20.940 Okay,

00:19:21.240 well,

00:19:21.560 then I'm for law and order.

00:19:23.260 They want to make sure

00:19:24.040 that the border is closed

00:19:25.040 because they're worried

00:19:25.720 about the demographic

00:19:26.920 and cultural transformation

00:19:29.620 of their country

00:19:31.860 along with the high amount

00:19:34.180 of crime and drugs

00:19:35.340 and other things

00:19:36.020 that can come in

00:19:36.840 with illegal immigration,

00:19:38.500 unchecked,

00:19:39.040 unfettered immigration.

00:19:40.320 And so Trump says,

00:19:41.040 okay,

00:19:41.240 well,

00:19:41.360 I'm against that as well.

00:19:42.860 What do they not want to do?

00:19:44.120 They're tired of their sons

00:19:45.200 dying in wars

00:19:46.200 that they don't understand

00:19:47.200 and have no benefit to them.

00:19:48.700 Okay,

00:19:48.880 well,

00:19:49.080 my foreign policy then

00:19:50.240 is that I am against

00:19:52.560 this adventurism,

00:19:54.620 this foreign policy adventurism.

00:19:57.220 I'm still for our strong military.

00:19:59.080 I still honor the military,

00:20:01.540 but I honor it

00:20:02.480 by not just misusing it

00:20:03.980 and throwing it out there

00:20:04.880 and securing contracts

00:20:06.800 for defense contractors

00:20:08.080 or bolstering the budget of NATO

00:20:11.540 or something like that.

00:20:12.600 So Trump's policies

00:20:14.340 were aimed at a specific group of people.

00:20:18.460 Those promises were made

00:20:19.720 to a specific group of people.

00:20:20.960 Well,

00:20:21.220 it was not ideological.

00:20:22.380 He didn't line up

00:20:23.100 all of these things

00:20:23.820 and say,

00:20:24.180 oh,

00:20:24.340 well,

00:20:24.760 this is what,

00:20:25.500 you know,

00:20:25.680 some think tank

00:20:26.560 or some economic system

00:20:28.640 demands of me.

00:20:29.600 He said,

00:20:30.060 there's a group of people

00:20:31.020 specifically that I want to serve

00:20:32.720 and I'm going to go ahead

00:20:33.720 and serve them.

00:20:34.640 And that is a very dangerous thing,

00:20:36.420 again,

00:20:36.760 for a lot of these

00:20:37.980 containment people on the right,

00:20:40.080 a lot of these established conservatives

00:20:41.820 because they've spent

00:20:42.860 a lot of time telling,

00:20:44.100 you know,

00:20:45.340 conservatives

00:20:45.720 that they don't have an identity,

00:20:47.260 that the worst thing

00:20:47.720 in the world is identity,

00:20:49.040 that everything is about individualism

00:20:51.240 and we need to abhor identity

00:20:53.760 at all moments.

00:20:55.100 Now,

00:20:55.220 don't get me wrong.

00:20:55.980 The left version

00:20:56.760 of identity politics

00:20:57.820 is ugly and gross.

00:20:59.140 It's cheap.

00:20:59.820 Their identities are plastic

00:21:01.340 and they don't mean anything.

00:21:04.860 They have no real grounding

00:21:06.120 and the way that they're used

00:21:07.940 in particular

00:21:08.500 is always driving us towards hate.

00:21:10.220 It's a bunch of Radio Rwanda

00:21:11.820 playing in the background

00:21:13.020 for their benefit.

00:21:14.360 And so I'm not here

00:21:15.300 to advocate for their,

00:21:17.680 you know,

00:21:18.100 just identity politics

00:21:19.280 for the right.

00:21:19.840 That's not what I'm saying here.

00:21:21.120 What I'm saying is that

00:21:22.140 the right does need to answer

00:21:23.520 the questions of identity.

00:21:24.900 One of the big problems

00:21:26.000 that we've had,

00:21:26.900 one of the reasons

00:21:27.400 that the left have won

00:21:28.380 so many of these battles

00:21:29.660 is that they have

00:21:30.940 been allowed to explore issues

00:21:32.680 that the right has simply

00:21:33.440 not been allowed to explore.

00:21:35.500 This is something

00:21:36.020 that has come up

00:21:36.640 over and over again

00:21:37.620 as I've been reading

00:21:38.280 through these really

00:21:39.220 important books recently,

00:21:40.960 things like Samuel Huntington's

00:21:42.460 Clash of Civilizations

00:21:43.640 where he talks about

00:21:44.680 the end of the kind of

00:21:46.980 just the United States

00:21:48.900 Soviet Union bipolar world

00:21:52.080 and the fact that

00:21:52.920 once those two economic

00:21:54.280 ideological systems

00:21:55.460 stop being kind of the way

00:21:57.720 that the thing that bifurcated

00:21:58.960 the entire globe,

00:22:00.500 instead these different regions

00:22:02.700 were realigning

00:22:03.680 under civilizational blocks

00:22:05.160 and more classical understanding

00:22:06.500 that was meant to answer

00:22:08.360 a very simple question.

00:22:09.580 Who are we?

00:22:11.020 We're not just capitalists

00:22:12.600 or just communists.

00:22:14.840 That's an insufficient level

00:22:16.700 of meaning and identity

00:22:17.860 for the average person.

00:22:19.440 They need something

00:22:20.120 that is more organic,

00:22:21.520 more holistic,

00:22:22.340 something that ties them

00:22:23.360 to their ancestors,

00:22:24.980 ties them to their religion,

00:22:26.560 ties them to their language,

00:22:28.220 ties them to the place

00:22:30.180 that they stand.

00:22:31.180 They need something more.

00:22:32.680 Okay?

00:22:33.180 And so they said,

00:22:34.840 you know,

00:22:35.220 these different civilizations,

00:22:36.480 Huntington says,

00:22:37.160 all of them are trying

00:22:37.900 to answer the question,

00:22:38.920 who are we?

00:22:40.020 And in many ways,

00:22:40.760 that means that

00:22:41.460 they were trying to modernize,

00:22:43.700 they're trying to bring themselves

00:22:44.380 into the modern world,

00:22:45.600 but in a way that was not defined

00:22:46.920 by either the United States

00:22:48.220 or the Soviet Union.

00:22:49.780 They were looking for alternatives

00:22:50.980 that allowed them to flourish

00:22:52.620 in the modern world,

00:22:53.520 but keep the character,

00:22:55.020 the identity that made them

00:22:57.080 who they are.

00:22:58.240 R. R. Reno also talks about this

00:22:59.860 in his book,

00:23:00.580 Return of the Strong Gods,

00:23:02.100 how after the World War II,

00:23:04.740 the post-war liberal consensus

00:23:06.680 worked very hard

00:23:07.740 to get rid of all the strong gods.

00:23:09.540 We need to get rid

00:23:10.100 of national identity.

00:23:11.300 We need to get rid

00:23:11.880 of all of these things,

00:23:13.320 religion,

00:23:13.800 all of these things

00:23:14.420 that have caused war

00:23:15.300 in previous eras,

00:23:16.860 and we need to get everybody

00:23:18.100 hooked on basically

00:23:19.520 these low-level,

00:23:20.940 these small gods, right?

00:23:22.360 These economic identities,

00:23:24.580 these kind of things

00:23:25.320 that no one's going to really

00:23:27.360 go to war over, right?

00:23:28.480 That's the idea.

00:23:29.440 Now, even then,

00:23:30.560 that hasn't really been successful.

00:23:32.020 People have still gone to war

00:23:33.100 over those things,

00:23:34.200 but the point is

00:23:35.060 that they wanted to put away

00:23:36.200 all of those classical

00:23:37.220 existential questions

00:23:38.360 about humanity

00:23:39.560 and say,

00:23:40.200 oh, well, no,

00:23:40.940 we're going to operate

00:23:42.140 only on these small,

00:23:43.880 dispassionate identities,

00:23:45.200 and what we've seen

00:23:46.500 is really that leaves us open

00:23:48.040 to ideological possession, right?

00:23:50.760 We've seen that

00:23:51.840 what happens

00:23:52.720 when you strip away

00:23:53.460 these more meaningful,

00:23:54.640 grounded, organic identities

00:23:56.340 is not that people

00:23:57.220 have no identity.

00:23:59.380 What's better than

00:24:00.340 a well-marbled ribeye

00:24:01.500 sizzling on the barbecue?

00:24:03.140 A well-marbled ribeye

00:24:04.460 sizzling on the barbecue

00:24:05.540 that was carefully selected

00:24:06.920 by an Instacart shopper

00:24:08.300 and delivered to your door.

00:24:09.880 A well-marbled ribeye

00:24:11.180 you ordered

00:24:11.700 without even leaving

00:24:12.840 the kiddie pool.

00:24:14.340 Whatever groceries

00:24:15.220 your summer calls for,

00:24:16.700 Instacart has you covered.

00:24:18.500 Download the Instacart app

00:24:19.720 and enjoy $0 delivery fees

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00:24:24.040 exclusions,

00:24:24.620 and terms apply.

00:24:26.160 Instacart,

00:24:27.000 groceries that over-deliver.

00:24:29.100 But what they do

00:24:29.600 is they start adopting

00:24:30.680 these gross,

00:24:32.020 plastic,

00:24:32.740 generalized identities

00:24:33.980 offered by people

00:24:35.900 like the left, right?

00:24:37.140 And when you can

00:24:38.080 consume these identities

00:24:39.780 and discard them

00:24:40.800 as if they were

00:24:41.380 some kind of boutique

00:24:43.060 you were walking through

00:24:44.000 and just grabbing

00:24:44.640 whatever you want

00:24:45.220 off the shelf

00:24:45.800 but wearing it for a moment

00:24:46.820 and then replacing it

00:24:47.960 with something else,

00:24:48.700 then people become

00:24:49.740 utterly deracinated.

00:24:51.160 There's nothing

00:24:51.700 to stop them

00:24:52.480 from being eaten up

00:24:53.760 by the next wave,

00:24:55.140 the next round of propaganda,

00:24:57.600 the next thing

00:24:58.280 that's going to flood

00:24:58.980 into their social media feeds

00:25:00.400 and dominate the conversation

00:25:02.300 and decide whether or not

00:25:03.840 they can get hired

00:25:04.740 at a job, right?

00:25:05.880 If you don't have

00:25:06.920 something like a religion,

00:25:08.520 if you don't have

00:25:09.080 something like a community,

00:25:10.400 if you don't have

00:25:11.180 a tie to your heritage

00:25:12.100 and your history,

00:25:12.980 then all these things

00:25:13.800 can simply be blown away

00:25:15.640 and the next thing

00:25:16.820 can come in to replace it

00:25:17.780 and that's why

00:25:18.300 all of these identities

00:25:19.380 that have been imposed

00:25:20.460 to us on the left

00:25:21.400 are more and more radical.

00:25:23.020 They're more and more insane

00:25:24.080 because each one of them

00:25:25.760 is completely preying on us

00:25:28.440 because we are unrooted.

00:25:29.940 We have no way to understand.

00:25:31.520 We have no firm ground,

00:25:32.780 no axioms

00:25:33.660 that define us

00:25:35.040 as a people,

00:25:36.360 as a civilization.

00:25:38.100 And much of the woke right

00:25:40.800 as it's called

00:25:41.600 are people who are simply

00:25:42.880 willing to say

00:25:44.220 we need to talk

00:25:44.980 about these issues.

00:25:46.080 Christian nationalism,

00:25:47.000 I think, right now

00:25:47.560 is the most popular

00:25:48.340 version of this.

00:25:49.340 They say we need to ground

00:25:50.280 our identity in Christianity

00:25:52.060 and I think certainly

00:25:53.500 that's critical

00:25:54.220 that that has to be

00:25:55.280 a part of the equation.

00:25:56.240 I don't think

00:25:56.720 that that's sufficient

00:25:57.440 and to be fair,

00:25:58.560 the guys like Stephen Wolf,

00:25:59.620 I've read his book

00:26:00.380 on Christian nationalism,

00:26:01.600 he does attempt

00:26:02.220 to tackle this

00:26:02.960 so this is not me

00:26:03.980 trying to go ahead

00:26:05.540 and throw some shade

00:26:07.640 at him.

00:26:08.820 He does tackle this

00:26:10.300 in his book

00:26:11.600 in a way that many

00:26:12.220 other people

00:26:12.680 would have been

00:26:13.180 unwilling to.

00:26:14.240 But ultimately,

00:26:15.100 this is the current front

00:26:17.280 of this saying

00:26:18.000 we need some kind

00:26:19.080 of identity

00:26:19.560 that is shared

00:26:20.300 and it needs to be

00:26:21.820 grounded in Christianity.

00:26:22.980 Of course,

00:26:23.300 this is true.

00:26:23.860 We know there are

00:26:24.940 no neutral institutions.

00:26:26.800 Institutions will have

00:26:27.780 a shared moral vision.

00:26:29.240 They will use their power

00:26:30.460 to go ahead

00:26:31.080 and push forward

00:26:32.060 an idea of who we are

00:26:33.640 and what we should be

00:26:34.560 and how we should be

00:26:35.300 ordering our civilization.

00:26:36.940 And if it's not

00:26:37.420 going to be Christianity,

00:26:38.420 then it's going to be

00:26:39.680 one of these,

00:26:40.620 again,

00:26:40.940 cheap plastic identities

00:26:43.080 is going to be

00:26:43.720 this increasingly gross

00:26:45.100 cosmopolitan hedonistic

00:26:47.280 identities.

00:26:48.280 And those things

00:26:48.740 have to be defeated.

00:26:50.120 And so that's another thing

00:26:51.260 that the,

00:26:51.940 you know,

00:26:52.260 that the kind of

00:26:53.320 establishment conservatives

00:26:54.180 are very worried about.

00:26:55.200 We're not supposed

00:26:55.860 to talk about this.

00:26:56.900 The one thing the left

00:26:57.540 has told us about

00:26:58.260 is that they're the only ones

00:26:59.640 that get to talk

00:27:00.280 about identity.

00:27:01.380 They're the only ones

00:27:02.060 that get to have

00:27:02.480 that conversation.

00:27:03.400 When they say,

00:27:04.080 let's have an honest

00:27:04.920 conversation about race

00:27:06.000 or something like that,

00:27:06.860 they never mean it.

00:27:07.760 They mean,

00:27:08.160 you're going to listen

00:27:08.880 to me berate you

00:27:09.740 about your identity,

00:27:10.920 your race,

00:27:11.760 your religion,

00:27:12.940 your sex,

00:27:14.460 whatever it is.

00:27:15.280 Like,

00:27:15.440 when we have

00:27:16.580 an honest conversation,

00:27:17.500 that means I get

00:27:18.520 to berate you

00:27:19.680 without you saying

00:27:20.900 anything or having

00:27:21.560 any defense.

00:27:22.560 And to be fair,

00:27:23.960 you know,

00:27:24.380 the right has mainly

00:27:25.440 said,

00:27:26.080 okay,

00:27:26.340 fine,

00:27:26.900 right?

00:27:27.100 Because they feel

00:27:28.020 like they lost

00:27:28.560 on that issue somewhere.

00:27:29.800 It's a third rail.

00:27:31.580 You're not allowed

00:27:32.180 to touch it.

00:27:32.920 It's toxic.

00:27:33.940 But we're not doing

00:27:34.560 anybody any favors

00:27:35.660 by avoiding this.

00:27:37.220 Yeah,

00:27:37.380 it's dangerous.

00:27:38.500 And yeah,

00:27:38.840 there are bad things

00:27:39.840 that can happen,

00:27:40.520 right,

00:27:40.760 when we talk about this

00:27:41.800 for sure.

00:27:42.700 But there are bad

00:27:43.220 things happening now.

00:27:44.240 And so we need

00:27:44.860 to be adults.

00:27:45.820 We need to be willing

00:27:46.480 to step into this.

00:27:47.660 And the woke right,

00:27:48.880 as many people

00:27:50.240 who are trying

00:27:50.580 to do containment

00:27:51.180 like to call it,

00:27:52.120 are some of the people

00:27:52.780 recognizing this truth

00:27:54.060 that we have to be

00:27:55.360 involved in this discussion.

00:27:56.960 If we seat it

00:27:57.480 entirely to the left,

00:27:58.760 then we are going

00:27:59.520 to lose this.

00:28:00.620 That's all there is to it.

00:28:02.080 The last pillar

00:28:02.900 of the woke,

00:28:04.720 of the criticism

00:28:06.920 of the quote-unquote

00:28:08.380 woke right

00:28:09.200 that a lot of people

00:28:10.660 put out there,

00:28:11.300 I think is a,

00:28:12.200 is a distinction

00:28:14.340 of reasoning.

00:28:15.120 They worry,

00:28:15.960 they worry about the way

00:28:16.820 that the right

00:28:17.280 is approaching

00:28:17.760 certain issues.

00:28:18.680 They,

00:28:19.220 they think that

00:28:19.860 this new insurgent right

00:28:21.000 is adopting too many

00:28:22.220 continental philosophies.

00:28:24.180 They're,

00:28:24.640 they're,

00:28:24.940 they'll often call this

00:28:25.920 the postmodern

00:28:26.620 traditionalists,

00:28:27.440 right?

00:28:27.580 I get called this

00:28:28.460 by people like

00:28:29.000 James Lindsay.

00:28:30.020 Watch out.

00:28:30.420 It's a postmodern

00:28:31.000 traditionalist.

00:28:31.640 They're coming for you guys.

00:28:32.980 They're,

00:28:33.400 they're just the

00:28:33.860 Frankfurt school,

00:28:34.600 but they've got,

00:28:35.380 you know,

00:28:35.700 trad calves.

00:28:36.540 I'm not Catholic

00:28:37.300 by the way,

00:28:38.100 but they're,

00:28:38.900 you know,

00:28:39.200 they're,

00:28:39.680 they've got crucifixes

00:28:40.740 or something

00:28:41.180 and you've got to be

00:28:41.780 very,

00:28:42.480 very worried about that.

00:28:43.760 And this is just

00:28:44.540 ridiculous.

00:28:45.300 The,

00:28:46.240 so what,

00:28:46.960 what they're identifying

00:28:47.660 here is a longstanding

00:28:50.440 kind of false economy

00:28:52.140 between being

00:28:53.220 and becoming,

00:28:54.220 right?

00:28:54.340 A lot of the

00:28:55.140 understanding

00:28:56.380 on the right,

00:28:58.100 or I should say

00:28:58.960 a lot of the standing,

00:28:59.740 understanding in the West,

00:29:02.600 especially the post

00:29:03.820 enlightenment tradition

00:29:04.540 of the West

00:29:05.040 has been built

00:29:05.960 on this idea

00:29:06.600 that we need to create

00:29:07.720 a large amount

00:29:09.100 of objectivity,

00:29:10.280 right?

00:29:10.520 Everything has to be

00:29:11.900 hyper rational.

00:29:13.160 It needs to be,

00:29:13.880 everything needs to be

00:29:14.600 plucked out of its context,

00:29:16.580 examined,

00:29:18.160 quantified,

00:29:20.160 categorized,

00:29:21.360 and then,

00:29:22.520 and then put back down

00:29:23.880 and it's,

00:29:24.220 it's kind of lifeless

00:29:25.360 suspended animation

00:29:26.660 so we can understand it.

00:29:28.060 I,

00:29:28.260 I understand everything

00:29:29.160 about this

00:29:29.820 as it is right now.

00:29:31.560 I'm the most objective person

00:29:33.020 because I've zoomed out

00:29:33.880 as fully as possible

00:29:34.820 and this allows me

00:29:36.000 to better grasp

00:29:37.360 everything about this object

00:29:39.020 in a very real way.

00:29:41.220 Now,

00:29:41.440 to be fair,

00:29:42.460 this is true,

00:29:43.600 right?

00:29:43.800 Like there is a power

00:29:45.060 to this technique

00:29:46.480 where we look into

00:29:47.440 these things

00:29:48.040 in these hyper rationalistic,

00:29:49.620 unconnected objective ways.

00:29:51.540 We pull it out

00:29:52.140 of its surrounding.

00:29:53.220 We say,

00:29:53.620 this is the thing.

00:29:54.580 I'm going to understand

00:29:55.380 this thing

00:29:56.000 in this particular way

00:29:57.240 that does produce

00:29:59.240 a certain type

00:30:00.860 of understanding

00:30:01.460 to the extreme

00:30:02.780 and it can be very useful.

00:30:04.140 I'm not here saying

00:30:04.720 that there's no value

00:30:06.080 to that analysis.

00:30:07.680 However,

00:30:08.460 this is often in the,

00:30:09.900 this is often like

00:30:10.940 grabbing a butterfly

00:30:12.380 and,

00:30:13.340 you know,

00:30:13.700 put it in under glass.

00:30:14.780 Like you can study

00:30:15.980 that butterfly

00:30:16.580 in great detail.

00:30:18.060 You can understand

00:30:19.600 you can turn it around.

00:30:20.840 You can get a great look at it.

00:30:22.120 You can label everything

00:30:23.360 about it,

00:30:23.860 right?

00:30:24.300 But you've also killed

00:30:25.300 the butterfly,

00:30:26.120 right?

00:30:26.800 You've also separated it

00:30:29.160 from makes it,

00:30:30.140 from what makes it alive.

00:30:32.460 You don't see it in nature.

00:30:34.000 You don't see what

00:30:34.760 it's feeding off of.

00:30:36.040 You don't see the way

00:30:36.880 that it's interacting

00:30:38.080 with the world around it.

00:30:39.360 You don't see the plants

00:30:40.200 that it lands on,

00:30:41.560 where it lays its,

00:30:42.640 its eggs.

00:30:43.440 You don't see all these

00:30:45.000 critical parts

00:30:45.920 of the lifestyle

00:30:46.760 of the butterfly

00:30:47.880 when you just try

00:30:48.800 to trap it under glass

00:30:50.120 and analyze it

00:30:51.640 in this particular way.

00:30:53.520 Now,

00:30:53.620 you have to do that

00:30:54.780 to some extent

00:30:55.420 if you understand

00:30:55.920 certain things,

00:30:56.980 but you also have

00:30:57.640 to contextualize

00:30:58.920 the butterfly

00:30:59.380 if you want to grasp it.

00:31:01.200 It's a living thing.

00:31:02.000 It's something

00:31:02.280 that is involved in being.

00:31:03.620 It is not just

00:31:04.560 a disconnected object

00:31:07.020 for you to go ahead

00:31:08.400 and analyze

00:31:08.900 and categorize

00:31:09.740 in a dispassionate way.

00:31:11.440 And so much

00:31:12.380 of what we've tried

00:31:13.160 to do

00:31:13.700 in our current tradition

00:31:14.940 is to maximize

00:31:16.260 that to the fullest.

00:31:18.600 And that has left

00:31:19.660 a lot of

00:31:21.620 kind of Western

00:31:22.300 post-enlightenment

00:31:23.620 ideology

00:31:24.440 vulnerable

00:31:25.480 to this

00:31:27.820 postmodern analysis,

00:31:29.220 right?

00:31:29.420 This is why

00:31:30.060 the postmoderns

00:31:31.000 have been so powerful

00:31:32.680 at deconstructing

00:31:33.940 the modern world

00:31:35.380 is they said,

00:31:36.400 oh, no,

00:31:36.720 you left

00:31:37.320 this entire half

00:31:38.960 of existence

00:31:41.140 out of the equation.

00:31:43.280 You looked entirely,

00:31:44.840 you closed your eye

00:31:45.760 and looked through

00:31:46.880 one eye,

00:31:47.560 through one lens,

00:31:48.680 and that lens

00:31:49.420 allowed you to magnify

00:31:50.380 and get closer

00:31:51.160 and understand things

00:31:52.080 in a way

00:31:52.400 you couldn't

00:31:53.080 understand them before.

00:31:53.980 You're staring

00:31:54.420 in the microscope

00:31:55.040 looking at the butterfly,

00:31:56.320 and that's a powerful tool,

00:31:57.880 yes.

00:31:58.880 But the fact that you

00:31:59.660 thought you did that

00:32:00.880 for so long

00:32:01.480 that you forgot

00:32:02.240 that you have another eye

00:32:03.900 and actually the world

00:32:05.300 under the microscope

00:32:05.980 is not the real world

00:32:07.340 and that there's

00:32:08.320 a whole other world

00:32:09.440 outside of the microscope

00:32:10.700 that is important

00:32:12.280 and valuable

00:32:12.940 to understand,

00:32:14.020 because you have done that,

00:32:15.440 you have created

00:32:16.380 a scenario

00:32:16.980 that makes you

00:32:17.560 very easy to critique.

00:32:19.540 And that is what happened

00:32:20.380 is that a lot of these guys

00:32:21.780 stepped into this moment,

00:32:23.480 this postmodern moment,

00:32:24.500 and said,

00:32:24.940 we have answers

00:32:26.460 that you don't

00:32:27.640 because you have ignored

00:32:28.760 this critical aspect

00:32:30.320 that reality

00:32:31.380 is actually grounded

00:32:32.560 in something,

00:32:33.680 that it's not just objective

00:32:34.880 and pulled back,

00:32:36.080 but there is an actual

00:32:37.200 lived experience,

00:32:38.460 there's a becoming,

00:32:40.180 there's a connection

00:32:41.580 to what is happening

00:32:43.100 around you

00:32:43.980 that contextualizes

00:32:45.640 who you are,

00:32:46.660 the actions,

00:32:47.680 the processes,

00:32:48.860 the experience

00:32:49.660 around something

00:32:51.000 defines it,

00:32:52.040 it is not simply

00:32:52.760 pulled out,

00:32:53.960 alone,

00:32:55.460 killed,

00:32:56.180 and then looked at

00:32:56.820 objectively

00:32:57.920 from this really

00:32:59.780 artificial angle.

00:33:01.200 And that has allowed

00:33:01.840 them to go in and say,

00:33:02.740 oh, well,

00:33:03.120 no,

00:33:03.640 language and culture

00:33:05.040 and all these things

00:33:06.120 form all of the things

00:33:07.260 that you're holding on

00:33:08.100 to as objective truth.

00:33:10.100 Now, to be fair

00:33:10.820 to people who are

00:33:12.680 rightfully worried

00:33:13.560 about postmodernism,

00:33:15.040 in many,

00:33:15.460 in a lot of cases,

00:33:16.260 they took this way too far.

00:33:17.860 They used this radically

00:33:19.420 to deconstruct

00:33:20.280 what was left

00:33:21.120 of traditional cultures

00:33:23.000 instead of recognizing

00:33:24.280 that this actually

00:33:25.120 explained so much

00:33:26.820 of what was valuable

00:33:27.560 about traditional cultures.

00:33:29.340 And they used that

00:33:30.140 to go ahead

00:33:30.920 and disassemble

00:33:31.720 not just tradition,

00:33:32.780 but the modern world,

00:33:34.260 and they wanted

00:33:34.860 to replace it

00:33:35.520 with all the horrible things

00:33:36.600 that we associate

00:33:37.340 with many postmodern thinkers

00:33:39.120 and were right to do.

00:33:40.520 This is not me

00:33:41.300 making some kind

00:33:42.300 of defense

00:33:42.980 in general

00:33:43.900 of postmodernism

00:33:44.840 or its tenets.

00:33:46.100 But what I'm saying

00:33:46.840 is the reason

00:33:47.840 that the right

00:33:48.940 was so easy

00:33:49.900 to deconstruct,

00:33:50.880 the reason that conservatism,

00:33:52.680 that even the moderate left,

00:33:55.120 the classical liberals,

00:33:56.800 were easy to deconstruct

00:33:58.440 is that they completely

00:33:59.460 closed themselves

00:34:00.620 to this understanding

00:34:02.060 of the world,

00:34:02.640 this analysis

00:34:03.180 of the world.

00:34:04.140 And this creates

00:34:04.820 a huge problem

00:34:05.600 because we are

00:34:06.460 actually connected

00:34:09.080 to these things.

00:34:10.540 We are not just objectively,

00:34:12.560 we're not just an idea,

00:34:14.140 right?

00:34:14.440 We're not just this

00:34:15.360 set of principles.

00:34:17.020 We are people

00:34:17.980 with a shared identity,

00:34:19.660 a shared way of being,

00:34:21.500 living our lives

00:34:22.400 inside of several connections,

00:34:24.640 inside language,

00:34:25.760 inside families,

00:34:27.000 inside so many things

00:34:28.460 that contextualize

00:34:29.360 who we are as people.

00:34:30.960 And if we're going

00:34:32.180 to look at the real world

00:34:33.740 and understand

00:34:34.340 and understand

00:34:34.360 what makes us

00:34:35.360 organically healthy,

00:34:38.460 makes us happy,

00:34:39.820 increases our flourishing,

00:34:41.060 we have to understand

00:34:41.960 it in that context.

00:34:43.540 It's good to be virtuous,

00:34:44.940 but we can only be virtuous

00:34:46.340 inside of specific community.

00:34:48.960 It's good to have liberty,

00:34:50.480 but liberty has to be ordered

00:34:51.980 inside of a community.

00:34:53.960 You can only truly be virtuous

00:34:56.320 if you are exercising

00:34:57.820 that virtue in a community.

00:34:59.140 This is what Aristotle told us.

00:35:00.540 This is not some radical,

00:35:02.140 crazy,

00:35:02.520 postmodern understanding

00:35:03.820 of reality.

00:35:05.580 I wanted to read you something.

00:35:07.280 It's a passage

00:35:08.540 from John Jay.

00:35:10.140 This is in Federalist number two.

00:35:11.880 He says,

00:35:12.240 With equal pleasure,

00:35:13.580 I have as often taken notice

00:35:16.020 that Providence has been pleased

00:35:17.880 to give this one connected country

00:35:20.060 to one united people,

00:35:22.200 a people descended

00:35:22.840 from the same ancestors,

00:35:24.200 speaking the same language,

00:35:25.680 professing the same religion,

00:35:27.360 attached to the same principles

00:35:28.520 of government,

00:35:29.700 very similar in their manners

00:35:31.300 and customs,

00:35:32.140 and who,

00:35:32.840 by their joint councils,

00:35:34.920 arms and efforts,

00:35:37.160 fighting side by side

00:35:38.240 throughout a long

00:35:39.020 and bloody war,

00:35:40.200 have nobly established

00:35:41.300 their general liberty

00:35:43.000 and independence.

00:35:44.300 This country and this people

00:35:45.480 seem to have been made

00:35:46.600 for each other

00:35:47.820 and appears as if

00:35:49.320 it was designed,

00:35:50.780 a design of Providence,

00:35:52.740 that inheritance so proper

00:35:54.460 and convenient

00:35:55.480 for a band of brethren

00:35:56.800 united to each other

00:35:58.140 by the strongest ties

00:35:59.720 should never split

00:36:00.800 into a number of

00:36:01.700 unsocial,

00:36:02.800 jealous,

00:36:03.200 and alien sovereignty.

00:36:04.740 The entire point here

00:36:06.320 from John Jay

00:36:07.160 is that America

00:36:08.100 is not just a set of principles.

00:36:10.060 He does list a governing,

00:36:11.900 a set of governing principles,

00:36:13.020 but he says

00:36:13.760 those governing principles

00:36:14.740 flow from a shared ancestry,

00:36:16.640 a shared language,

00:36:17.660 a shared religion,

00:36:19.440 similar matters

00:36:20.420 and customs,

00:36:21.480 right?

00:36:21.780 That all of these things

00:36:22.780 are contextualized,

00:36:24.100 that these things matter

00:36:25.620 as we move forward together.

00:36:28.500 And the biggest criticism

00:36:29.360 of people who call this

00:36:30.700 the woke right

00:36:31.560 is that they understand

00:36:33.540 that actually these contexts

00:36:35.120 matter in the same way

00:36:36.380 that people on the woke left

00:36:38.260 understand these contexts matter.

00:36:40.060 But they still do matter.

00:36:41.580 Just the fact,

00:36:42.140 just because the left

00:36:42.920 have understood

00:36:43.540 one piece of something

00:36:44.940 that is true

00:36:45.640 and that has allowed them

00:36:47.000 to deconstruct so much

00:36:48.620 of what the,

00:36:50.140 you know,

00:36:50.480 the kind of controlled right,

00:36:52.000 the centrists

00:36:52.580 and all these people

00:36:53.200 have established

00:36:54.260 doesn't mean it's not true.

00:36:55.960 It means you need

00:36:56.480 to understand it better.

00:36:57.520 You need to understand

00:36:58.200 why you were so weak to this.

00:37:00.100 You need to understand,

00:37:00.880 you know,

00:37:01.040 James Burnham said

00:37:02.560 that liberalism

00:37:03.460 is the ideology

00:37:04.840 of Western suicide

00:37:06.380 because it removes

00:37:07.560 the ability

00:37:08.280 of the nation

00:37:09.840 to prefer itself

00:37:11.020 to any other.

00:37:12.580 And you must,

00:37:13.540 if you are going to defend anything,

00:37:14.920 prefer it to something else.

00:37:16.680 I cannot defend my family

00:37:18.260 if I do not prefer them

00:37:19.640 over a stranger.

00:37:21.420 I cannot defend,

00:37:22.620 you know,

00:37:23.540 my country

00:37:24.360 if I do not prefer it

00:37:25.500 over the alien.

00:37:27.500 You cannot love your wife

00:37:29.060 if you do not prefer her

00:37:30.420 over other women.

00:37:32.080 It is that particularity

00:37:33.180 and that preference

00:37:33.980 for what is familiar,

00:37:35.180 what you are connected to,

00:37:36.600 what you are grounded in

00:37:37.900 that allows you

00:37:39.420 to protect it.

00:37:40.920 And the founders

00:37:41.800 understood this.

00:37:42.720 This is, again,

00:37:43.620 oh boy,

00:37:44.080 it's the woke right.

00:37:44.980 Oh, you mean

00:37:45.540 the guy who wrote

00:37:46.440 the Federalist Papers?

00:37:48.300 That woke right?

00:37:49.520 John Jay,

00:37:50.220 the radical?

00:37:51.400 I mean,

00:37:51.920 he was radical

00:37:52.560 for his time,

00:37:53.260 of course.

00:37:53.780 Radical in the sense

00:37:54.540 that he just had

00:37:55.740 an American revolution.

00:37:57.420 But he should not be radical

00:37:58.500 now for people

00:37:59.080 who are pretending

00:37:59.600 to protect

00:38:00.320 the American tradition.

00:38:01.960 The American tradition

00:38:02.840 is founded

00:38:03.480 in many things

00:38:04.220 including a shared people,

00:38:06.100 heritage,

00:38:06.560 identity,

00:38:07.120 language,

00:38:08.020 set of customs,

00:38:08.980 religion.

00:38:09.880 Now,

00:38:10.100 that doesn't mean

00:38:10.860 that the United States

00:38:12.420 cannot and has not

00:38:14.000 assimilated people

00:38:15.200 to that way of life.

00:38:16.920 But that process

00:38:17.960 is very slow,

00:38:19.680 very,

00:38:20.100 it takes a lot of time,

00:38:21.860 it's multi-generational,

00:38:23.420 and it can only be done

00:38:24.540 for a certain number

00:38:25.820 of people.

00:38:26.520 Often,

00:38:26.900 it's easier for people

00:38:27.740 who are already closer

00:38:28.560 to that tradition.

00:38:30.500 You can't just take people

00:38:31.920 and pluck them

00:38:32.560 out of nowhere,

00:38:33.360 drop them into the United States,

00:38:34.940 and expect the magic dirt

00:38:35.940 in the Constitution

00:38:36.560 to turn them into Americans.

00:38:38.420 That's not how it works.

00:38:39.920 No one believed that,

00:38:41.060 not the Founding Fathers,

00:38:42.860 not Aristotle.

00:38:43.940 Nobody believed this

00:38:45.040 about people.

00:38:46.120 That is not how people work.

00:38:47.420 We are not interchangeable

00:38:48.660 widgets.

00:38:50.020 We are not fungible.

00:38:51.700 We have particularities,

00:38:52.880 and those particularities

00:38:54.020 make us more likely

00:38:55.220 to group with other people,

00:38:56.440 to get along with other people,

00:38:57.780 to combine together

00:38:59.200 in a way that allows us

00:39:00.420 to have a shared political tradition

00:39:02.260 as long as we share

00:39:03.300 some of these key aspects.

00:39:04.920 Again,

00:39:05.300 that doesn't mean

00:39:05.880 that this form of assimilation

00:39:08.980 cannot occur.

00:39:10.320 But first and foremost,

00:39:11.340 it should be the decision

00:39:12.480 of the people

00:39:13.140 whether or not

00:39:13.860 they should be allowing people in.

00:39:15.560 I think right now,

00:39:16.380 we should be closing

00:39:17.180 our borders entirely.

00:39:18.300 We can't assimilate

00:39:19.020 the people who are already here.

00:39:20.420 We certainly don't need

00:39:21.160 any more here.

00:39:22.260 And then we have to ask

00:39:23.060 serious questions

00:39:23.980 once we close the borders

00:39:24.980 and deport people

00:39:25.840 who are here illegally,

00:39:26.820 how we would assimilate

00:39:28.160 into one shared identity

00:39:30.160 if that's even possible.

00:39:31.460 But you can't even

00:39:31.940 have that conversation

00:39:32.960 if you don't have

00:39:34.620 closed borders

00:39:35.580 and removal of people

00:39:36.840 who should not be here

00:39:37.460 in the first place.

00:39:38.320 And we don't have

00:39:39.080 any of those things

00:39:39.720 at the moment.

00:39:40.500 So people who are on

00:39:41.900 the quote-unquote

00:39:42.540 woke right

00:39:43.320 simply recognize

00:39:44.520 that actually human beings

00:39:45.900 have a specific context

00:39:47.240 in which they exist

00:39:48.760 and that it's important

00:39:49.840 to understand that,

00:39:50.780 how it influences things,

00:39:52.200 that people can't actually

00:39:53.640 just adopt a bunch

00:39:54.660 of a priori principles

00:39:56.380 and suddenly become Americans.

00:39:58.260 But there's actually

00:39:59.200 a particular way

00:40:00.800 of being a tradition,

00:40:01.840 a faith that is all

00:40:03.300 tied to these things.

00:40:04.800 And while you may be able

00:40:05.500 to assimilate

00:40:06.040 a certain number of people,

00:40:07.540 especially if they're closer

00:40:08.420 to that tradition,

00:40:10.060 then you could do that.

00:40:12.660 But that, again,

00:40:13.220 should be something

00:40:13.680 that you decide

00:40:14.280 as a people together.

00:40:15.540 And these are all things

00:40:16.320 that the mainstream,

00:40:17.880 you know,

00:40:18.180 kind of controlled right

00:40:19.040 does not like

00:40:19.860 because they are just

00:40:22.060 bought into this

00:40:23.220 wildly liberal idea

00:40:24.820 that anyone can come in

00:40:26.800 and remember things like,

00:40:28.040 you know,

00:40:28.200 Bernie Sanders accused

00:40:29.220 the Koch brothers

00:40:30.480 of supporting open borders.

00:40:32.120 He said that's a right wing

00:40:33.140 Koch brothers conspiracy

00:40:34.840 that you can have open borders.

00:40:36.640 Now, Bernie Sanders

00:40:37.580 has changed that tune

00:40:38.500 because he wanted to get paid

00:40:39.960 and he wanted to have

00:40:40.680 certain positions in his party.

00:40:42.120 But he was being true there.

00:40:43.420 Even as a socialist,

00:40:44.420 he recognized that

00:40:46.140 he said open borders

00:40:47.200 is a right wing issue

00:40:48.640 because that's going

00:40:49.320 to destroy your country.

00:40:50.300 That's going to destroy

00:40:51.040 the neighborhoods.

00:40:53.100 That's going to keep people

00:40:54.060 from being able to get jobs.

00:40:55.080 That's going to depress labor.

00:40:56.480 When he was caring

00:40:57.020 about the people for a moment

00:40:58.120 instead of, you know,

00:40:59.100 playing the game of politics,

00:41:00.300 he spoke the truth

00:41:01.220 about the dangers of this.

00:41:02.600 And so much of this

00:41:03.360 has been pushed

00:41:04.100 by like the Cato Institute

00:41:06.660 and these other

00:41:07.340 libertarian think tanks.

00:41:08.980 I know libertarians

00:41:09.900 are going to hate that.

00:41:10.640 They're going to be like,

00:41:11.000 ah, that's regime libertarians

00:41:12.520 if it helps you, whatever.

00:41:13.700 They're pushed by these people

00:41:14.660 who are pushing

00:41:15.080 these extreme liberal policies

00:41:18.140 saying it doesn't matter.

00:41:19.640 We don't have to worry

00:41:20.300 about these things.

00:41:21.140 We can adopt any

00:41:21.900 in every person we want.

00:41:23.460 Everyone who flows

00:41:24.040 across the border

00:41:24.700 comes into America

00:41:25.920 and they're just fine.

00:41:26.640 It's just an economic zone, bro.

00:41:28.400 It doesn't have, you know,

00:41:29.060 we're not a real country.

00:41:30.120 It's not a nation, right?

00:41:31.960 It's just a state.

00:41:33.200 It's just a government

00:41:34.500 operating an economic zone.

00:41:36.100 It's not actually a people.

00:41:37.680 You could just,

00:41:38.320 as long as you come in

00:41:39.140 and you say a couple

00:41:40.120 magic words,

00:41:40.920 then you're an American, right?

00:41:42.620 These are things

00:41:43.200 that are unacceptable

00:41:43.940 to a lot of people

00:41:45.480 on the new right.

00:41:46.660 Now, I've used the term

00:41:48.100 woke right a couple times here.

00:41:49.520 And you might say,

00:41:50.460 if you're familiar

00:41:50.900 with my work,

00:41:51.560 Oren, why would you do that?

00:41:52.380 Because you tell people

00:41:53.140 all the time

00:41:53.600 not to use new speak,

00:41:55.140 not to adopt

00:41:56.300 the language of your enemies.

00:41:58.080 And that's true.

00:41:58.720 You're absolutely right.

00:41:59.780 If you called me out for that,

00:42:01.240 if you recognize

00:42:01.860 that the reason I'm doing it

00:42:03.940 is because it's such a joke.

00:42:05.720 The only reason

00:42:06.240 I'm using this term

00:42:07.120 is because of the people

00:42:08.140 who are pushing it

00:42:09.580 have already failed.

00:42:10.760 It's so embarrassing

00:42:11.720 to watch them do this.

00:42:13.520 It's so clear

00:42:14.560 how ham-fisted

00:42:15.680 their attempt to force

00:42:17.040 this term is

00:42:17.780 that I'm not even worried about it.

00:42:19.400 Like, I'm really not.

00:42:20.920 I don't think

00:42:21.560 they have any chance

00:42:22.380 of advancing this.

00:42:23.460 These people are

00:42:24.100 so desperately unpopular.

00:42:26.000 It's so clear

00:42:26.780 that they're losing.

00:42:27.980 It's so clear

00:42:28.540 that their attempts

00:42:29.200 to containment

00:42:29.780 are so pathetic

00:42:30.580 that I don't even fear

00:42:32.540 this piece of news speak.

00:42:34.040 Again, don't adopt it.

00:42:35.680 Don't call yourselves

00:42:36.500 the woke right or whatever.

00:42:37.960 But I'm not worried

00:42:39.180 about talking about it

00:42:40.160 because this is such a

00:42:41.860 failed attempt

00:42:43.800 from the beginning

00:42:44.400 that I don't think

00:42:45.460 we need to worry about that.

00:42:46.620 So that said, guys,

00:42:48.200 I wanted to explain

00:42:49.900 why people are suddenly

00:42:51.620 using this term,

00:42:52.320 what the motivation was,

00:42:53.900 what the three key things

00:42:55.160 that they were attacking were,

00:42:56.740 and why I think

00:42:57.300 that those are failures

00:42:59.260 to understand

00:42:59.940 the political situation

00:43:01.380 we're in.

00:43:02.380 Because ultimately,

00:43:03.060 we need all of those tools

00:43:04.420 that they're attacking

00:43:05.200 to go ahead and address

00:43:06.460 our current political reality.

00:43:08.100 And so anybody coming at you

00:43:09.240 and saying,

00:43:09.660 we can't address these things,

00:43:10.840 we can't use these things,

00:43:11.800 we can't understand these things,

00:43:13.160 or that makes us woke,

00:43:14.500 those people are just asking

00:43:15.620 to fail.

00:43:16.360 They're just people

00:43:17.060 who are looking to lose.

00:43:18.420 And we need to reject that.

00:43:19.480 We need to reject that

00:43:20.240 loser ideology.

00:43:21.540 It's been destroying

00:43:22.240 the right for a long time.

00:43:23.360 It's destroying

00:43:23.840 the conservative movement

00:43:24.800 for a long time.

00:43:25.900 It's made it completely

00:43:26.740 ineffectual.

00:43:27.460 It hasn't conserved anything.

00:43:28.940 And if we're going to have

00:43:29.660 any chance

00:43:30.340 at understanding

00:43:31.480 what we want to preserve,

00:43:33.380 right,

00:43:33.660 what we want to be able

00:43:34.680 to prefer,

00:43:35.880 then we have to understand

00:43:36.820 where that comes from.

00:43:38.100 And that means

00:43:38.940 that we have to go ahead

00:43:39.740 and engage

00:43:40.300 with a lot of things

00:43:41.000 that many people

00:43:42.160 in the rational centrists

00:43:43.980 or the control

00:43:45.420 containment right

00:43:46.240 don't want to get involved in.

00:43:47.900 All right, guys,

00:43:48.520 let's go ahead

00:43:48.960 and look over

00:43:49.720 at our super chats here.

00:43:53.200 The questions of the people.

00:43:55.220 We've got

00:43:55.800 Oxwagon saying,

00:43:58.520 the woke right started

00:43:59.500 as a way for the

00:44:00.680 left UG pundits

00:44:01.860 to gate,

00:44:02.320 that's a good term there,

00:44:03.940 to gatekeep actual

00:44:05.020 conservatives

00:44:05.600 out of conservatism.

00:44:07.180 These,

00:44:07.640 the left left me types

00:44:08.800 aren't content

00:44:09.400 to join your big tent

00:44:10.640 and they expect

00:44:11.720 to rule it.

00:44:12.640 Yeah,

00:44:12.800 I'm going to steal

00:44:13.500 that term from you.

00:44:14.300 I like that left UG

00:44:16.240 pundits.

00:44:17.640 That's a good one.

00:44:18.400 Yeah,

00:44:18.600 so many,

00:44:19.140 so much of this

00:44:19.720 is being pushed

00:44:20.320 by people

00:44:20.740 who were just

00:44:21.300 on the left

00:44:21.960 five,

00:44:22.900 10 years ago.

00:44:23.820 They came to the right

00:44:24.780 because they thought

00:44:25.360 the right was basically

00:44:26.320 the new Obama

00:44:27.960 Democrat party

00:44:28.900 and they found out

00:44:30.540 that actually

00:44:30.960 maybe there's some people

00:44:31.720 here who are actually

00:44:32.520 interested in winning.

00:44:33.400 They actually want

00:44:34.100 to conserve things.

00:44:35.160 They're not just interested

00:44:35.880 in becoming the new neocons.

00:44:37.640 They have a real opposition

00:44:38.880 to what's happening right now.

00:44:40.800 And so many of the people

00:44:41.920 pushing this woke right stuff

00:44:43.560 are just these

00:44:44.740 classical liberal types

00:44:45.920 who,

00:44:46.340 you know,

00:44:46.480 these IDW types

00:44:47.600 who got fed up

00:44:48.860 with the left

00:44:49.600 because it went

00:44:50.580 a little too far,

00:44:51.460 but they don't think

00:44:52.120 they did anything wrong

00:44:53.000 and they think

00:44:53.400 they have the right to rule.

00:44:54.800 And so they should be able

00:44:56.260 to walk into conservatives

00:44:57.360 and say,

00:44:57.960 no,

00:44:58.400 I dictate what you believe now.

00:44:59.900 And you're absolutely right

00:45:00.900 to say that that needs

00:45:01.760 to be rejected.

00:45:03.680 Let's see.

00:45:06.080 Trettle says,

00:45:06.840 nice argument,

00:45:07.560 Oren,

00:45:07.880 but have you considered

00:45:08.820 all power is one ring

00:45:10.480 and you are Boromir.

00:45:12.760 Yeah,

00:45:12.980 again,

00:45:13.240 we have to worry about,

00:45:14.800 you know,

00:45:14.980 if we ever use any power

00:45:16.680 then it immediately corrupts us

00:45:18.060 and there's no way

00:45:19.100 that we can go ahead

00:45:20.040 and be the virtuous,

00:45:21.120 clean,

00:45:21.840 you know,

00:45:22.820 small government conservatives

00:45:24.000 because we'll have attempted

00:45:25.080 to wield the ring.

00:45:27.140 This is a mistake.

00:45:28.660 Power will always exist.

00:45:30.540 That doesn't mean I'm not,

00:45:31.560 by the way,

00:45:32.060 for a certain level

00:45:33.340 of small government.

00:45:34.160 I am actually in favor

00:45:36.180 of small government

00:45:37.060 but not because

00:45:38.100 small government

00:45:39.180 is itself an end good

00:45:40.520 but because small government

00:45:41.620 allows for virtuous communities

00:45:43.860 to take care of themselves

00:45:45.240 but in order to do that

00:45:46.920 you must actually have

00:45:47.720 virtuous communities

00:45:48.740 and so without those,

00:45:50.420 without those regional

00:45:52.100 power structures,

00:45:54.100 those intermediate power structures

00:45:55.220 that stand against

00:45:56.060 the centralized state,

00:45:57.420 then you,

00:45:58.320 you know,

00:45:58.540 whining about the use of power

00:45:59.880 doesn't matter

00:46:00.640 because you don't have the things

00:46:01.760 that would allow you

00:46:02.360 to actually stand against power.

00:46:03.940 Power will exist.

00:46:04.960 It will be wielded by someone

00:46:06.180 if it isn't you,

00:46:07.420 someone else will use it

00:46:08.260 to remake the country

00:46:10.820 in their image.

00:46:12.240 Cooper Weirdo says,

00:46:13.220 smells like right-wing SJWs

00:46:15.320 to me.

00:46:15.980 A desperate attempt

00:46:16.720 of memeing normies

00:46:17.640 trying hard.

00:46:18.780 Am I right, guys?

00:46:19.900 Yeah, that's, you know,

00:46:21.040 again, a number.

00:46:21.700 They're one of these people

00:46:22.320 who are like,

00:46:22.600 oh, the right-wing SJWs,

00:46:24.900 they just want to push

00:46:26.380 their ideas.

00:46:27.440 They want to push

00:46:27.900 their beliefs down on you.

00:46:29.040 They're the same thing

00:46:29.860 as the woke left.

00:46:30.700 This, and of course,

00:46:32.500 this is what they would say,

00:46:33.440 right, because so many

00:46:34.280 of these guys,

00:46:35.400 again, those left UGs

00:46:37.220 that he just talked about,

00:46:38.660 came over because they said,

00:46:39.760 oh, well, now the left

00:46:40.700 is acting like the religious right,

00:46:42.200 right?

00:46:42.400 They actually bought

00:46:43.240 into this idea

00:46:44.100 that the religious right

00:46:45.220 were their real enemies

00:46:46.120 in the 80s and 90s

00:46:47.580 and that there's this

00:46:48.220 beautiful moment

00:46:49.260 of centrism that occurred

00:46:50.580 in like the late 90s,

00:46:52.440 2000s,

00:46:53.220 and if only they could

00:46:54.080 get back to that,

00:46:54.800 everything would be fine,

00:46:55.680 but ultimately,

00:46:56.500 we understand that

00:46:57.740 that is just not the case.

00:46:59.060 Jay Burden says,

00:47:02.500 sorry, I couldn't make it,

00:47:03.920 but it's been a great episode.

00:47:05.280 Well, thank you very much, man.

00:47:06.260 Yes, I had initially

00:47:08.140 invited Jay Burden

00:47:09.860 to talk on this subject

00:47:11.320 because I know this is something

00:47:12.780 he's very good on as well,

00:47:14.140 but I know he had to work.

00:47:15.480 Glad you're watching, though, man.

00:47:16.660 Definitely looking forward

00:47:17.480 to speaking with you

00:47:19.260 next time here.

00:47:21.740 Paladin YYZ says,

00:47:23.320 Ted Cruz called out

00:47:24.600 how ridiculous Biden looked

00:47:26.680 when he froze up on the stage.

00:47:27.900 Boom, take that, Globetrotters.

00:47:30.180 The generals are going

00:47:31.020 to sweep the finals.

00:47:33.040 Yeah, exactly.

00:47:34.180 We've pointed out once again

00:47:35.980 that Joe Biden is inept,

00:47:38.740 that he's not cognitively functional,

00:47:41.240 so therefore, it's all over, right?

00:47:42.980 The left is just about

00:47:43.720 to be defeated

00:47:44.280 because the thing

00:47:45.360 that has been very obvious

00:47:46.300 from the beginning

00:47:47.380 of the Biden presidency

00:47:48.480 is still obvious now.

00:47:50.920 Sorry, guys,

00:47:51.680 but we're going to need

00:47:52.220 more than this.

00:47:52.840 There's a structural change necessary.

00:47:54.860 There's a real change

00:47:56.480 in both tactics

00:47:57.960 and strategies

00:47:58.680 that needs to occur.

00:48:00.300 Pretending that you can

00:48:01.200 just keep pointing out

00:48:02.060 the hypocrisy

00:48:02.820 and the incompetence

00:48:04.820 of the left

00:48:05.260 that's going to eventually

00:48:06.180 secure permanent change

00:48:07.900 is ridiculous.

00:48:09.860 Creeper Weirdo says,

00:48:11.140 I'm eating tindies

00:48:12.140 while watching now.

00:48:13.160 DW Mog.

00:48:14.480 Oh, I'm sure they're doing

00:48:15.480 just fine over there, guys.

00:48:17.200 Don't Mog them

00:48:17.880 with the tindies.

00:48:18.640 Or maybe you do.

00:48:19.480 I'll leave that to you.

00:48:20.980 Let's see.

00:48:22.300 We've got a tiny stupid demon

00:48:24.100 who says, wait,

00:48:24.960 so let me get this straight

00:48:25.900 and correct me

00:48:26.860 if I'm wrong here.

00:48:27.860 But if I understand

00:48:28.580 you're saying

00:48:29.260 what you're trying to say

00:48:30.180 is that the square peg

00:48:31.780 does go into the square hole.

00:48:34.800 Yeah, I mean,

00:48:35.560 ultimately, like I said,

00:48:36.560 we really have to understand

00:48:37.700 that there are discussions

00:48:38.980 that are unpleasant

00:48:40.060 for a lot of people

00:48:40.940 that the left has put off

00:48:42.780 off limits

00:48:43.960 for a lot of people

00:48:45.100 that we need to have.

00:48:46.860 Yes, you need to use power.

00:48:48.460 Yes, it matters

00:48:49.240 whose morals are governing

00:48:50.560 the United States.

00:48:51.920 Yes, we need to understand

00:48:53.020 the way that we are connected

00:48:54.120 to all kinds of things

00:48:55.640 in our society,

00:48:56.420 how those things shape us

00:48:57.620 and why that makes us

00:48:58.840 the country that we are.

00:49:00.040 Like, and if you sit around

00:49:01.020 and pretend that's not true,

00:49:02.460 then people will be able

00:49:03.320 to tell you're a liar.

00:49:04.560 And if there's one thing

00:49:05.800 that is always going to lose you

00:49:07.740 in kind of in public debate,

00:49:10.560 it's everyone recognizing

00:49:11.840 that you are trying to run from

00:49:13.560 and hide from something

00:49:15.060 that is powerful and true.

00:49:16.780 Now, the left obviously

00:49:17.740 is doing this.

00:49:18.540 And it's, I think,

00:49:19.700 while they are wielding power

00:49:21.280 effectively now,

00:49:22.360 ultimately it is hurting

00:49:23.420 their ruling formula.

00:49:24.440 It is really making them weaker.

00:49:25.780 They're having to exercise

00:49:26.740 a lot of raw power

00:49:28.220 to avoid talking about

00:49:29.560 the things that they are destroying

00:49:31.440 in their pursuit

00:49:32.960 of totalitarian control.

00:49:34.980 But that will eventually

00:49:35.980 come for them.

00:49:36.700 There's no way

00:49:37.200 that they can continue

00:49:38.060 this forever.

00:49:38.660 And the right shouldn't

00:49:39.200 fall into the trap

00:49:39.940 of believing that they can exist

00:49:41.440 inside the rules

00:49:42.280 that the left has set for them.

00:49:43.420 The right cannot be

00:49:45.080 a set of things

00:49:46.540 that the left lets us do.

00:49:48.020 I'll say that again

00:49:48.920 because I think it's

00:49:49.580 really important for people.

00:49:52.020 Conservatives, the right,

00:49:53.260 whatever, the new right,

00:49:55.340 whatever you want to call it,

00:49:56.300 the resurrection of the old right,

00:49:57.540 you cannot be a collection

00:49:59.380 of things that the left

00:50:00.260 lets you do.

00:50:01.560 If that's actually the way

00:50:02.900 the political discourse unfolds,

00:50:05.440 then you've already lost.

00:50:06.540 Why bother?

00:50:07.040 Why bother showing up?

00:50:07.940 Um536vids says,

00:50:13.060 I'm sorry, sir,

00:50:13.700 don't you know that

00:50:14.540 if we are re-normalizing

00:50:16.600 around Christian principles,

00:50:18.360 this is an army's,

00:50:20.660 can I take your order?

00:50:23.900 I don't know, man.

00:50:25.000 I think that we have to do that.

00:50:26.500 This is probably a joke here.

00:50:27.960 But yeah, I think that we,

00:50:28.940 of course, do have to do that.

00:50:30.960 Pretending that that's not

00:50:32.120 what is going to allow people

00:50:34.620 to create a healthy community

00:50:36.880 and society is ridiculous.

00:50:38.900 We are going to have

00:50:39.940 to be informed by something.

00:50:41.540 Those principles will be connected

00:50:43.500 to some kind of religious vision,

00:50:45.340 some moral vision of the world.

00:50:47.580 If it's not going to be

00:50:48.760 Christian principles,

00:50:49.540 then it will continue to be

00:50:50.820 the woke principles

00:50:51.720 that we have now,

00:50:52.660 which is a very cheap,

00:50:53.940 ugly religion.

00:50:55.060 It is not a real religion.

00:50:56.100 It is standing in for religion.

00:50:57.680 But everyone will have to have one.

00:50:59.360 There is no such thing

00:51:00.180 as a secular society.

00:51:02.580 Let's see here.

00:51:03.540 Life of Brian says,

00:51:04.400 I once saw a local distance

00:51:06.300 post a lucid thread

00:51:07.440 on how woke's bypass rationality

00:51:10.060 and only manipulate

00:51:10.900 and manipulate and concludes

00:51:13.580 that we have to debate harder.

00:51:15.800 Yeah, that is a very interesting thing

00:51:18.520 that they often point out.

00:51:20.660 Look, vocal is, of course,

00:51:21.720 correct that very often

00:51:22.840 woke ideology does

00:51:24.740 get around rationality.

00:51:27.160 It does bypass rationality

00:51:29.080 and manipulates people

00:51:31.260 on an emotional level,

00:51:32.340 on an identity level,

00:51:33.700 on a level of faith.

00:51:37.220 And that's why they win,

00:51:38.500 because they are manipulating

00:51:39.560 fundamental forces

00:51:40.440 that are far more powerful

00:51:41.720 than that of rationality.

00:51:43.400 But the answer,

00:51:44.200 so many people who rail

00:51:46.000 against the quote unquote

00:51:46.980 woke right,

00:51:48.220 the thing that they say is,

00:51:49.400 well, we'll just need

00:51:49.960 to return to rationality.

00:51:51.100 Well, how?

00:51:52.260 If you've pointed out

00:51:53.160 that these people

00:51:53.680 are very effective

00:51:54.880 at getting around rationality,

00:51:57.480 the rationality

00:51:58.300 is not the end all,

00:51:59.660 be all,

00:52:00.560 that that epistemology

00:52:01.720 is broken,

00:52:03.300 that this like scientism

00:52:04.460 or this hyper-rational

00:52:05.560 understanding of the world

00:52:06.540 is broken,

00:52:07.460 and that is not the only way

00:52:09.040 that we can understand truth.

00:52:10.480 If you don't understand that

00:52:12.220 and you're going to continue

00:52:13.020 to let these people

00:52:13.820 take advantage of that,

00:52:15.560 then you can never

00:52:16.220 really fight back.

00:52:17.200 You're always going to lose

00:52:18.240 to these people

00:52:18.860 who are connecting

00:52:19.840 to other ways,

00:52:21.120 other modes

00:52:21.620 of understanding things

00:52:22.380 that people really do

00:52:23.900 understand and connect with.

00:52:25.480 Like if you're ignoring them,

00:52:27.340 if you're not appealing

00:52:28.880 to them on these levels

00:52:30.140 as well,

00:52:30.900 that doesn't mean

00:52:31.580 you just abandon rationality.

00:52:33.680 Rationality is,

00:52:34.280 of course,

00:52:34.500 still extremely important.

00:52:36.180 We use it all the time.

00:52:38.160 But pretending that

00:52:38.860 this is the only thing

00:52:39.580 that moves men

00:52:40.520 is just to completely ignore

00:52:42.560 what has happened

00:52:43.300 in politics,

00:52:44.060 well, forever,

00:52:45.300 but very much so

00:52:46.300 in the last couple decades.

00:52:47.940 If you really believe that,

00:52:49.380 then you have a very hard time

00:52:50.680 explaining the world

00:52:52.840 we're in now.

00:52:53.620 And I think if you continue

00:52:54.520 to do what you've been doing,

00:52:56.140 you're going to continue

00:52:57.060 to get what you've been getting.

00:52:59.880 Jonathan Pejot,

00:53:00.980 sorry,

00:53:01.380 Creeper Weirdo again here,

00:53:02.380 says,

00:53:02.720 Jonathan Pejot is on our side,

00:53:04.520 so I feel pretty good

00:53:05.380 about our side.

00:53:06.560 Bring him back on the show,

00:53:07.480 Oren.

00:53:07.620 It would be very cool.

00:53:08.360 Yeah,

00:53:08.500 I had a great time

00:53:09.160 talking to Jonathan Pejot.

00:53:11.600 He's a very interesting guy.

00:53:12.920 You're correct

00:53:13.540 that he understands this

00:53:16.340 in a way that many people

00:53:17.920 in the IDW do not

00:53:19.080 and that he is doing

00:53:20.760 a lot of great work

00:53:21.860 explaining that.

00:53:22.820 I had him on

00:53:23.460 and we had a great discussion.

00:53:24.780 He enjoyed it.

00:53:25.380 He wanted to come back,

00:53:26.320 so I definitely need

00:53:27.000 to schedule another one of those

00:53:28.200 because it was definitely

00:53:30.560 a favorite for a lot of people

00:53:31.700 and I really enjoyed it

00:53:33.040 and he really enjoyed it.

00:53:36.020 Just Lodash here says,

00:53:37.540 we hit the wall hard.

00:53:38.800 The wall Jordan Peterson

00:53:39.660 didn't want us to touch.

00:53:41.100 The right goes too far

00:53:42.060 when we're for our people

00:53:44.180 and not abstract ideas.

00:53:46.080 You know,

00:53:46.800 I think that ultimately

00:53:48.420 Jordan Peterson,

00:53:49.520 if you were able to

00:53:51.440 have a discussion

00:53:52.360 with him on this,

00:53:53.740 would understand

00:53:54.520 that people

00:53:56.380 are a shared

00:53:57.360 set of these ideas

00:53:59.840 in many ways,

00:54:00.660 right?

00:54:00.900 That it's not just those things,

00:54:02.320 but he understands

00:54:03.280 the importance of the canon

00:54:04.400 of grounding things

00:54:05.520 in a biblical tradition,

00:54:07.000 that that's the only way

00:54:08.820 you can have

00:54:09.280 a shared language

00:54:10.660 to understand

00:54:11.460 and model the world

00:54:12.400 around us.

00:54:13.660 I can't say

00:54:14.720 that I've listened

00:54:15.480 to a lot of Jordan Peterson

00:54:16.620 lately,

00:54:17.120 but he would have

00:54:18.040 the foundations

00:54:18.760 for those things.

00:54:20.260 Ultimately,

00:54:20.740 I think it is important

00:54:21.800 to go ahead

00:54:22.460 and understand

00:54:23.060 that those contexts

00:54:24.660 from which we arise,

00:54:26.160 that kind of

00:54:26.940 substrate layer

00:54:27.980 of reality

00:54:29.400 from which we kind

00:54:30.080 of build ourselves

00:54:31.140 is definitional.

00:54:33.960 It does create us,

00:54:35.180 you know,

00:54:35.380 it does define

00:54:36.360 large parts of us.

00:54:37.580 It doesn't mean

00:54:37.960 that we don't have agency.

00:54:39.140 It doesn't mean

00:54:39.540 that other people can't.

00:54:40.860 Again,

00:54:41.240 you know,

00:54:41.460 there's a certain level

00:54:42.400 of cultural assimilation

00:54:43.660 that can occur

00:54:44.340 over generations

00:54:45.240 and these kind of things,

00:54:46.480 but you have to understand

00:54:47.580 that there will be

00:54:48.220 a dominant culture.

00:54:49.380 You know,

00:54:49.540 America was predominantly

00:54:51.180 an Anglo

00:54:52.940 and Protestant

00:54:53.520 nation

00:54:54.960 for most of its history.

00:54:56.540 Those folkways,

00:54:57.700 those traditions,

00:54:58.780 those ideas,

00:54:59.480 those principles,

00:55:00.280 those religious bonds

00:55:01.680 are what tied

00:55:02.640 America together.

00:55:03.700 If someone moved here

00:55:04.800 and they were Catholic

00:55:05.600 or Jewish

00:55:06.220 or they were of

00:55:07.400 an ethnicity

00:55:08.480 that was outside

00:55:09.260 of those traditions,

00:55:10.380 it didn't mean

00:55:11.140 that there wasn't

00:55:11.720 an ability for them

00:55:12.880 to exist necessarily

00:55:15.100 alongside

00:55:15.780 the United States

00:55:17.560 or as a part

00:55:18.100 of the United States,

00:55:18.860 but they had to understand

00:55:19.920 that that was the water

00:55:20.700 in which they were

00:55:21.200 going to swim,

00:55:21.700 that this would be

00:55:22.280 the dominant culture

00:55:23.160 and would remain

00:55:23.800 the dominant culture

00:55:24.760 and that that was

00:55:26.240 going to continue

00:55:26.720 to define almost

00:55:27.700 all of their social

00:55:28.420 interaction.

00:55:29.720 And a lot of people

00:55:30.240 did do that.

00:55:30.800 A lot of people

00:55:31.160 did make that,

00:55:32.040 you know,

00:55:32.240 that journey

00:55:32.760 and with that assumption.

00:55:34.140 But over time,

00:55:35.100 we've moved

00:55:35.820 too many people

00:55:36.700 in here

00:55:37.120 who did not believe

00:55:38.060 that,

00:55:38.320 did not understand

00:55:38.940 that.

00:55:39.600 We did it too rapidly

00:55:40.480 so it was impossible

00:55:41.340 to make any kind

00:55:42.380 of assimilation,

00:55:43.120 did it with people

00:55:43.680 who were increasingly

00:55:44.600 far outside

00:55:45.640 of the tradition

00:55:46.240 to the point

00:55:46.700 of becoming

00:55:47.460 very difficult

00:55:48.160 to in any way

00:55:49.360 go ahead and assimilate

00:55:50.320 to any part

00:55:50.760 of that tradition.

00:55:51.820 And ultimately,

00:55:52.220 we lost a sense

00:55:54.020 of a majority culture.

00:55:55.460 And if you lose

00:55:55.860 a sense of a majority culture,

00:55:57.060 you will lose

00:55:57.840 the definition

00:55:58.440 of your people.

00:55:59.560 And I think

00:55:59.920 that that has

00:56:00.520 to be something

00:56:01.020 that you are

00:56:01.800 willing to touch

00:56:03.480 as an effective

00:56:05.200 person who is

00:56:05.960 talking about

00:56:06.640 what the future

00:56:07.140 is going to look

00:56:07.500 for the right.

00:56:08.320 If you just don't

00:56:08.920 have the ability

00:56:09.420 to do that,

00:56:10.120 then you're just

00:56:11.000 going to lose.

00:56:11.600 The left is going

00:56:12.120 to win,

00:56:12.400 as they should,

00:56:13.360 because you cannot

00:56:14.200 discuss the most

00:56:15.440 critical issue

00:56:16.520 of our time.

00:56:17.420 The one that

00:56:17.940 Samuel Huntington,

00:56:18.860 who is not a radical,

00:56:20.320 is a centrist,

00:56:21.780 you know,

00:56:22.660 he taught at

00:56:23.320 major universities,

00:56:24.840 but his question

00:56:25.600 is,

00:56:25.880 who are we?

00:56:26.840 And if you cannot

00:56:27.420 answer that question,

00:56:28.420 that is the question

00:56:29.160 of our age.

00:56:29.860 If you cannot answer

00:56:30.380 that question,

00:56:31.160 you will lose

00:56:31.720 to the people

00:56:32.080 who will.

00:56:34.160 Robert Weinsfeld

00:56:34.940 says,

00:56:35.400 a republic,

00:56:36.200 if you can keep it.

00:56:37.400 And by keep it,

00:56:38.060 we mean two plus hours

00:56:39.420 of combat sports training

00:56:40.580 and two plus hours

00:56:41.500 of Bible studies

00:56:42.240 per week.

00:56:43.480 I mean,

00:56:43.780 it's really true.

00:56:44.560 It's amazing how much

00:56:45.860 people love to quote

00:56:46.960 that quote

00:56:50.480 from Benjamin Franklin

00:56:51.940 saying,

00:56:52.400 you know,

00:56:52.500 it's a republic

00:56:52.980 if you can keep it.

00:56:53.740 But then we don't

00:56:54.180 bother about doing

00:56:55.040 any of the things

00:56:55.860 that will allow us

00:56:56.400 to keep it.

00:56:56.900 We don't recognize

00:56:57.720 what it means to keep it.

00:56:59.240 What allowed us

00:57:00.300 to have this type

00:57:00.940 of government?

00:57:01.680 Well,

00:57:01.800 we just read

00:57:02.240 John Jay,

00:57:02.940 founding father.

00:57:04.220 You know,

00:57:04.340 Supreme Court justice

00:57:05.100 tells us,

00:57:05.900 you know,

00:57:06.620 what it would take,

00:57:08.200 what forms that,

00:57:09.120 what allows that.

00:57:09.860 And then we just

00:57:10.380 ignore it.

00:57:10.900 The people who tell me,

00:57:11.640 I want to go back

00:57:12.240 to the founding.

00:57:13.300 You mean,

00:57:13.860 but not the one

00:57:14.940 that the Federalist

00:57:15.600 Papers talks about?

00:57:16.520 What founding

00:57:17.120 are you wanting

00:57:17.660 to go back to?

00:57:18.500 Oh,

00:57:18.840 you mean the 1990s?

00:57:20.720 And that's my problem

00:57:21.400 with people who tell me,

00:57:22.140 oh,

00:57:22.240 I want to go back

00:57:22.760 to the principles

00:57:23.200 of the founding fathers.

00:57:24.000 You probably don't.

00:57:26.040 You probably don't.

00:57:27.060 Whenever I hear

00:57:27.700 that from people

00:57:28.740 who are talking

00:57:29.320 about going back

00:57:29.760 to the principles

00:57:30.100 of the founding fathers,

00:57:31.000 I don't believe them

00:57:32.060 because they almost

00:57:33.200 never actually understand

00:57:34.700 the principles

00:57:35.460 that they're talking about.

00:57:37.200 Even if you think

00:57:38.080 that the founding

00:57:38.780 is perfect,

00:57:39.560 then you would need

00:57:40.820 to go back to it.

00:57:41.960 And none of them

00:57:43.080 are interested in that.

00:57:44.560 And that's my problem

00:57:45.580 with people who,

00:57:46.320 they claim the founding fathers,

00:57:47.900 they claim America,

00:57:49.860 the authority

00:57:51.040 of the American founding,

00:57:52.320 but they have no interest

00:57:53.300 in what the founding fathers

00:57:54.180 actually said.

00:57:55.600 Are you looking

00:57:56.620 to reduce the franchise?

00:57:58.040 Are you looking

00:57:58.540 to get rid

00:57:59.160 of the standing army?

00:58:00.620 Are you interested

00:58:01.540 in becoming one people

00:58:02.860 with a shared language,

00:58:05.300 a shared religion?

00:58:07.640 No?

00:58:08.160 Oh, okay.

00:58:08.680 Because that's what

00:58:09.620 the founders talked about.

00:58:11.340 You believe that

00:58:12.800 the constitution

00:58:13.260 is only for moral

00:58:14.200 and religious people

00:58:15.000 and that if you aren't

00:58:16.220 those people,

00:58:16.720 the constitution

00:58:17.160 can't govern you

00:58:17.880 because that's what

00:58:18.720 the founders believe.

00:58:20.020 With so many people

00:58:20.620 talking about going back

00:58:21.560 to the founding,

00:58:22.320 they don't care.

00:58:23.420 They don't know

00:58:23.780 anything about it.

00:58:24.480 For them,

00:58:24.920 the founding is

00:58:26.020 Ronald Reagan

00:58:27.380 or William F. Buckley

00:58:28.660 or Bill Clinton.

00:58:30.460 That's what they want

00:58:31.180 to go back to.

00:58:31.840 They have no interest

00:58:32.520 in actually going back

00:58:33.520 to the principles

00:58:33.980 of the founders.

00:58:36.120 Let's see here.

00:58:37.040 Glow in the Dark says,

00:58:38.740 no matter how great

00:58:39.560 the system is

00:58:40.280 without the proper people

00:58:41.180 in place,

00:58:41.820 it won't function properly.

00:58:43.720 New phrase,

00:58:44.480 a system is only

00:58:45.500 as functional

00:58:46.140 as its corrupt manager

00:58:47.380 or weakest leaders.

00:58:49.540 Look, it's true

00:58:50.340 that ultimately

00:58:51.000 it is the people

00:58:51.920 that make the country.

00:58:52.720 It is not the system.

00:58:54.080 We cannot rely

00:58:55.000 on institutions

00:58:56.180 or systems

00:58:56.960 or documents

00:58:58.140 to go ahead

00:58:59.320 and keep us

00:59:00.220 who we are

00:59:00.920 to protect

00:59:01.560 our principles

00:59:02.480 to validate

00:59:03.580 our country.

00:59:04.580 That simply

00:59:05.200 will not work.

00:59:06.300 If you don't have

00:59:07.100 the right people,

00:59:07.680 if you don't have

00:59:08.140 people who love

00:59:08.800 this country,

00:59:09.340 who love these people,

00:59:10.700 who love who we are

00:59:12.000 and what we were

00:59:12.840 and what we're

00:59:13.380 going to become together,

00:59:14.300 then you simply

00:59:15.560 cannot operate.

00:59:16.740 You simply are

00:59:17.920 focused on the wrong things

00:59:19.320 and that has been

00:59:20.140 a disaster for the right.

00:59:21.280 They've continued

00:59:21.820 to do this.

00:59:22.720 It's been a complete failure.

00:59:23.960 It's why they don't

00:59:24.580 preserve anything

00:59:25.420 because they don't

00:59:26.120 love anything.

00:59:27.460 They don't actually

00:59:28.120 love anything.

00:59:28.960 They just have ideology.

00:59:30.460 You can't survive

00:59:31.740 on ideology.

00:59:33.380 It's not enough.

00:59:34.980 All right, guys.

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The Auron MacIntyre Show - June 17, 2024

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