The Auron MacIntyre Show - February 17, 2023


Why The Right Won't Fight ｜ Guest： Jesse Kelly ｜ 2⧸17⧸23


Episode Stats

Length

32 minutes

Words per Minute

198.1419

Word Count

6,384

Sentence Count

505

Misogynist Sentences

9

Hate Speech Sentences

17


Summary

Jesse Kelly is the host of Radio and TV show "First Take" and host of the show "The Tucker Carlson Show" on Fox News. He is also the author of the new book, "Why the Right Doesn't Fight," which is out now. In this episode, Jesse talks about how he got started in radio and politics and how he became a radio and TV host.


Transcript

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00:00:30.000 Hey everybody, how's it going?
00:00:33.740 Thanks for joining me today.
00:00:35.540 I've got a great guest.
00:00:37.140 I think you're really going to enjoy.
00:00:39.860 Jesse Kelly is the host of Radio and TV.
00:00:43.420 He's over on the first.
00:00:44.580 Jesse, thanks for joining me.
00:00:46.500 Shoot, I'm a fan, man.
00:00:47.980 Thanks for having me.
00:00:49.160 Oh no, absolutely.
00:00:50.420 So we're going to get into all kinds of stuff with Jesse.
00:00:53.320 He's going to tell us why the right doesn't fight.
00:00:55.540 He's going to tell us about a new book that he has coming out.
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00:01:59.760 So, Jesse, you know, I've seen you everywhere, you know, everyone's seen you on Tucker Carlson.
00:02:06.720 You are blowing up because I think you speak to an important aspect of the right, something about the right that a lot of people are super frustrated with, that they simply will not fight.
00:02:17.440 They don't know how to address issues.
00:02:19.200 I want to get into that.
00:02:20.840 But before we start, I want to know how you got started.
00:02:23.320 How did you end up talking about, you know, politics, all of that?
00:02:27.440 I think you were an Army guy or, sorry, a Marine, right?
00:02:29.960 I wouldn't want to insult you.
00:02:32.040 Well, you just didn't know.
00:02:33.320 It was – I kind of lucked into this whole thing, man.
00:02:36.600 I was born in Ohio, moved to Montana when I was 10 years old, and then just grew up in a construction family.
00:02:43.460 My dad did it.
00:02:44.340 His dad did it beforehand.
00:02:45.600 That's what we did, normal life.
00:02:47.900 I was a bit of a wild kid, kind of a dirt ball, and I got a 0.0 grade point average my first semester of college out of high school.
00:02:56.700 That's a true story.
00:02:58.040 And decided I didn't want to be a turd anymore, so I joined the Marines, wanted to serve my country.
00:03:02.640 I went to Iraq, got out of Iraq, and we weren't political, by the way.
00:03:05.680 We were never political.
00:03:06.660 I knew we were Republican, but that's all I knew.
00:03:08.500 We didn't – it's just not something to discuss in the House.
00:03:11.400 Went back to doing construction after I got out of the Marines.
00:03:14.480 Obama started running.
00:03:16.200 I got really mad about it because I knew – I wasn't super political, more historical, but I knew this is a bad thing.
00:03:23.040 This is a bad person.
00:03:24.300 This guy wants something bad.
00:03:25.640 So I ran for Congress twice, lost twice, got out of politics, started selling RVs, a job I found on Craigslist.
00:03:32.660 That's another true story.
00:03:34.260 And eventually I got to know this radio host, Michael Berry, my mentor down here in Houston, who said,
00:03:40.500 I think you could be really special at a media career if you ever wanted to give it a shot.
00:03:44.480 So I once again quit my job with no job and threw myself into it.
00:03:48.180 That was about four and a half years ago, and here I am today talking to the great Arden.
00:03:53.140 So it worked out all right, but I kind of lucked into the whole thing, to be honest.
00:03:57.360 Yeah, I know what you mean.
00:03:58.580 I had a similar story.
00:04:00.880 No background in this kind of thing.
00:04:02.360 So it's always wild how these things will turn out.
00:04:06.040 But like I said, I think your voice has been heard pretty strongly because you're addressing the issue of fighting back.
00:04:12.180 So many people are incredibly frustrated with the way that the establishment GOP addresses things.
00:04:18.600 We hear about these crises.
00:04:21.060 You have to donate now.
00:04:22.280 We got to take action, blah, blah, blah.
00:04:24.040 And then these people are sitting around laughing, talking to each other, joking with the left, acting like their best buddies.
00:04:30.880 George W. Bush is sharing candy with Michelle Obama at the end of the day after he's been called a war criminal time and time again.
00:04:38.900 What is up with this?
00:04:39.880 Why is the right so bad at fighting back?
00:04:42.820 Why is the GOP so hesitant to really bring it to the left?
00:04:46.800 They don't understand what we're facing.
00:04:48.900 Well, that's how it began.
00:04:50.320 The GOP, if we're talking about the Washington, D.C., Mitch McConnell, George Bush types, they know that they're in.
00:04:56.140 They're in the in club.
00:04:57.400 They're always going to be rich.
00:04:58.620 They're always going to be taken care of.
00:05:00.020 There's never going to be any serious moves made against them.
00:05:02.800 So they're fine.
00:05:04.520 They actually like if we're talking about the Washington elite, they actually feel worse about the GOP base.
00:05:11.020 They look down on the GOP base more than the communists actually do.
00:05:14.580 Mitch McConnell and those types, the Lindsey Grahams.
00:05:17.320 These people, the way they speak about people like you, Aaron, and your audience and me behind doors, it would make you'd march on Washington with pitchforks the way they speak about us.
00:05:25.800 They really genuinely just think you're a bunch of ignorant rubes.
00:05:29.660 You want to you want you want to secure your own border.
00:05:32.440 Just like that's how they look at us.
00:05:34.660 But for the GOP in general, they don't they haven't understood that there has been a massive sea change on the other side.
00:05:44.160 And they're acting like that's not the case.
00:05:46.540 They act like we are just in some kind of a I mean, heated, of course, but it's a political game.
00:05:52.520 Look, we'll give a little and they'll give a little and that's just kind of how we're going to do things here.
00:05:57.180 They act like we live in a world that everyone actually wants to live in instead of the world we actually live in, where every single major entity has been taken over by a cultural Marxist trying to burn America to ash.
00:06:09.260 And they don't act like that.
00:06:10.360 They act like I ought to be fine.
00:06:12.220 Oh, well, let's get together on an omnibus bill.
00:06:14.800 And they act as if we're just in a friendly game of politics and not against people who are trying to burn the house down.
00:06:21.260 And that's a big deal.
00:06:22.040 So if you can't if you can't decipher whether or not the person you live with is just has different ideas on how to improve the house or is actively trying to burn it down, you're in a bit of trouble.
00:06:34.080 Yeah, I think that's a really important distinction, that GOP establishment versus maybe the average conservative understanding, because I think you're right that that GOP establishment, they know they're safe.
00:06:42.900 They're OK with that.
00:06:44.200 It's more or less controlled opposition.
00:06:46.560 They're here to manage the right.
00:06:48.600 They're not here to lead the right somewhere.
00:06:50.260 Right.
00:06:50.840 These are people that they kind of have to keep in line so they can keep things flowing the correct way.
00:06:55.540 But there's there's no real interest in any kind of leadership towards a new goal.
00:06:59.940 And then you have conservatives in general who I think do want to see real change.
00:07:04.700 Do you want to see something happen?
00:07:05.560 But they're still under this impression that they're having some kind of battle in the marketplace of ideas.
00:07:10.640 And we're all going to work it out by by talking about it.
00:07:13.860 And they'll they'll they'll eventually convince the left that they were wrong and they're all shake hands.
00:07:18.440 And then we'll kind of go back to the 1950s or whatever.
00:07:20.940 And that just that just never seems to happen.
00:07:24.640 So one thing that I think is really interesting is you've got this new book that's going to be coming out.
00:07:31.040 It's the anti-communist manifesto.
00:07:33.800 A lot of people get kind of worked up when people talk about the opposition as communist.
00:07:39.380 Right. Because they say very specifically, I think there's some some fairness to this.
00:07:42.960 Marxism is a very is a particular economic ideology.
00:07:46.480 Right. And so how can these people be Marxists when Apple and Google and BlackRock and, you know, Goldman Sachs are on their side?
00:07:56.620 But I think I've heard you talk about this.
00:07:59.240 And I think it's a good frame for people to understand because I've heard it echoed by others that really communism is kind of when the when the when the spiteful mutants, the resentful,
00:08:09.160 the people who want to destroy what is happening, try to bend and twist things so that they can dismantle kind of America as we see it now.
00:08:19.800 And the kind of the economics part was just kind of a useful thing at the moment for people who have a general interest in attacking America as it stands.
00:08:28.720 Yeah, that's because people don't understand history.
00:08:31.200 Those are the people who get upset about using the word communist.
00:08:34.540 One, I just want to say this before I go into my explanation.
00:08:37.140 And this is another reason the right loses and another reason that I admire the communists somewhat.
00:08:42.400 And I do in many different ways.
00:08:43.980 I do. I admire the communists clarity of purpose and clarity of who his enemy is.
00:08:49.740 He never looks at the right and says, well, no, that's not a neo-Nazi.
00:08:54.760 It's not a white supremacist.
00:08:56.060 No, he's a look. He's on the right, kind of a conservative.
00:08:59.020 We disagree about some things.
00:09:00.540 Let's not be extreme.
00:09:02.240 You never hear the communists say that at all.
00:09:04.080 It's no, that's a Nazi white supremacist.
00:09:06.780 Burn him to the ground.
00:09:08.200 The clarity of who his enemy is and what should be done to his enemy.
00:09:13.160 But the right will immediately, well, hey, let's not overheat the rhetoric.
00:09:17.300 They're just well-meaning liberals, a little bit biased.
00:09:20.200 This is another reason we fail.
00:09:21.800 We won't speak with clarity and we don't see things with clarity.
00:09:25.420 And the people don't understand communism at all.
00:09:28.060 They think it's some stupid dictionary definition about the workers.
00:09:32.060 Communism took a totally different form everywhere it's ever been tried.
00:09:35.440 In the Soviet Union, it was about the urban poor.
00:09:37.640 Why?
00:09:38.080 Because as Aran just pointed out, that's where the malcontents were.
00:09:41.100 They were the urban poor.
00:09:42.780 The Soviets tried to get China to do the exact same thing when they were working with Mao.
00:09:47.060 Hey, focus on the urban poor.
00:09:48.660 And Mao said, you're an idiot.
00:09:49.840 That won't work here.
00:09:50.540 We don't have malcontents as urban poor.
00:09:52.400 We have malcontents as rural poor.
00:09:54.380 So that's why Mao started in the hinterlands.
00:09:56.520 And in Cambodia, it looked different.
00:09:59.160 In Germany, East Germany, it looked different.
00:10:01.200 It looks different everywhere because all communism is is the search for society's malcontents
00:10:06.600 so you can grab them, use their angst to enrich yourself and gain political power.
00:10:11.720 I mean, people talk about Apple and Google.
00:10:13.420 They couldn't possibly be communists because they're too rich.
00:10:16.640 Do you know how rich the Kim family is in North Korea?
00:10:20.340 Who was the largest purchaser of Hennessy in the history of the planet?
00:10:24.020 The current fat guy?
00:10:24.940 His father, I forget the uns or the ills or whichever, which one it is.
00:10:28.560 There always is this cabal or sometimes one guy of rich people on top enriching themselves
00:10:34.880 and a bunch of idiot malcontents at the bottom who think that they're just about to take the seat of power
00:10:40.100 as soon as they continue the revolution for the boss.
00:10:42.860 And it never seems to work out that way.
00:10:44.480 It's the same year.
00:10:45.300 Yeah, I think it's really key for people to grasp that that friend-enemy distinction is something that the right is just terrible at.
00:10:53.920 Like you said, the left totally gets this.
00:10:58.240 They understand that they cannot rule without victory, right?
00:11:01.540 And so they are willing to go ahead and they don't need to minutiae.
00:11:05.980 They don't need to slice the onion super thin.
00:11:08.540 They just need to win.
00:11:09.600 They just need victory so that they can impose their will on others.
00:11:12.460 And I think there's a lot of people in conservatives who are super uncomfortable with understanding that that's how it works both ways.
00:11:20.400 Like there is no freedom without victory.
00:11:23.100 These people are not going to leave you alone.
00:11:25.020 They're not going to let you section off and run things your own way.
00:11:29.720 Either you take these institutions back from these people or build alternative institutions that completely discredit and undermine their power,
00:11:37.240 or they're going to rule you.
00:11:38.740 But this just seems something that completely escapes many on the conservative side.
00:11:42.840 They can't do it.
00:11:43.800 Well, that's probably shortchanging people on the right.
00:11:47.380 They haven't been able to do it thus far, and it takes a long time to change one's mentality.
00:11:52.700 The right doesn't understand.
00:11:54.560 You won't ever see victory unless some of those people go to prison.
00:11:57.620 Like the right doesn't understand that.
00:11:59.040 You know people have to go to prison, right?
00:12:00.400 You have to take people, arrest them, have public trials, and throw people, including journalists, into prison if you want to save this country.
00:12:06.880 Like if you said that to the right, they would instantly recoil in horror.
00:12:11.400 But the left understands, the communist understands, that we're only talking about power.
00:12:16.320 This is a game of power.
00:12:17.620 The right wants to imagine.
00:12:18.920 We're the founding fathers.
00:12:20.080 And you're Thomas Jefferson, and I'm John Adams, and we're just having an argument about the Constitution.
00:12:24.920 We've all seen the painting.
00:12:26.040 And if we just cite the Tenth Amendment enough times, then everyone will come around.
00:12:30.380 They're never interested in popularity.
00:12:32.780 Has anybody picked up on that yet?
00:12:34.260 All the huge things they passed.
00:12:36.520 The omnibus bill passed on a Friday night when no one's paying attention.
00:12:40.240 Obamacare passed on Christmas Eve, if memory serves me.
00:12:43.180 All these huge, unpopular things, yet they passed them anyway.
00:12:46.780 Why?
00:12:47.340 Because they're smart.
00:12:48.360 And they understand that the silent majority has got to be the lamest freaking rally cry I've ever heard in my entire life.
00:12:54.940 That's why you're losing, because you're silent.
00:12:57.280 Numbers don't matter.
00:12:58.520 Popularity doesn't matter.
00:12:59.820 All that matters is power.
00:13:01.040 And they have understood this forever.
00:13:02.560 That's why we are busy raising kids, going to church on Sunday, eating steak dinners.
00:13:07.240 They're going to take over the local library?
00:13:10.520 Who wants to work as a librarian?
00:13:12.520 That sounds lame.
00:13:13.620 You know who wants to work as the local librarian?
00:13:15.780 The one who wants to bring a drag queen in to wave his penis in front of your child.
00:13:19.500 That's who does.
00:13:20.480 The communist.
00:13:20.980 Yeah, that's exactly right.
00:13:23.180 It's funny.
00:13:23.820 You know, Walter Littman, a good liberal back in the 1920s, wrote a book about public opinion saying, look, as liberals, as good progressives, it's our job to manufacture the truth.
00:13:35.100 So democracy chooses correctly, right?
00:13:37.700 This is old.
00:13:38.640 This is not new.
00:13:39.480 This is not something that just got cooked up in the 1990s or with critical race theory or something.
00:13:45.540 This is at the foundation of American progressivism.
00:13:48.460 This is the core of what it's about.
00:13:49.780 They understood that manufacturing public consent was the key to victory.
00:13:53.940 So you're right.
00:13:54.560 They don't worry about what's popular.
00:13:57.040 They worry about making it popular once they have control of institutions.
00:14:00.620 They understand that delivering the narrative and coding their understanding as kind of the null hypothesis of law gives them power over everyone below them and will eventually make things popular.
00:14:12.800 You look at stuff like, you know, the redefinition of marriage.
00:14:16.640 This is something that Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton came out against in 2008.
00:14:21.180 Now it's something that Republicans are pushing in the Senate, right?
00:14:24.920 They signed a bill for it.
00:14:26.660 I mean, come on.
00:14:27.440 Who are we kidding?
00:14:28.080 We think this.
00:14:28.620 Do you think this was popular when California rejected it in Proposition 8?
00:14:33.640 No, but it's popular now.
00:14:35.300 Why?
00:14:35.900 Did they convince everybody with the force of argument?
00:14:37.820 No, they changed the law.
00:14:39.120 They won the Supreme Court rulings.
00:14:41.300 Yeah, they seized.
00:14:42.160 Well, they're the great gatekeepers is what they are.
00:14:44.340 They're so good at this.
00:14:45.580 Today, like all this stuff isn't popular.
00:14:47.680 People look at some rainbow flag uniforms in the NHL or something like that, and they scream and they yell.
00:14:54.580 That's what?
00:14:54.980 No one wants this.
00:14:55.840 No one.
00:14:56.160 Who asked for this?
00:14:57.080 This should just be the regular uniforms.
00:14:58.960 What are we doing?
00:15:00.060 And then they'll say, of course, well, we are the silent majority.
00:15:02.740 We don't want this.
00:15:04.020 None of that matters at all.
00:15:05.400 They realized I need to seize the education system.
00:15:08.400 By the way, I write about this in the Anti-Communist Manifesto, the history of a lot of this stuff.
00:15:12.100 As soon as they took over the education system, they wrote down, we can't let them know what we're doing.
00:15:17.040 They're always saying that.
00:15:18.320 We can't let them know what we're doing.
00:15:19.440 They seize the education system.
00:15:21.140 That will eventually give you the corporate world as you work your way up through the university system.
00:15:25.560 They make your movies.
00:15:26.640 They make your music.
00:15:27.840 They play your sports for you now.
00:15:30.420 They own the military in this country now, all the leadership of the United States military.
00:15:36.140 They control everything that goes into your eyes and ears.
00:15:38.440 So I couldn't care less about some big silent majority underneath when everything on top pushes the same message.
00:15:45.020 That's what matters.
00:15:46.160 And we allow them to happen.
00:15:47.720 And then we say lame things like, but we're the majority as if that matters at all.
00:15:52.060 We are 500 people with slingshots surrounding 50 people with 50 cows telling them, we're the majority.
00:15:59.340 You have to listen to us.
00:16:00.600 No, they don't.
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00:16:32.420 So I wonder what you think about this.
00:16:34.400 I think one of the big things that keeps conservatives from being able to fight back effectively is kind of this worship of the public-private distinction, right?
00:16:42.820 A lot of conservatives look at corporations and they say, oh, well, that's a private company.
00:16:48.820 They can do whatever they want, right?
00:16:50.720 Or they look at a university and they say, well, that should be independent.
00:16:55.100 It shouldn't have any kind of political influence.
00:16:57.780 And then you even see guys like Chris Ruffo who push back against this political indoctrination in these university departments.
00:17:05.200 And all of a sudden, you know, guys like Jordan Peterson even are saying, whoa, whoa, we can't go, you know, stopping the teaching of radical ideas.
00:17:12.120 And in college, what will happen?
00:17:13.960 It's like there's this barrier that conservatives believe that they have to always honor and that will always safeguard them from this.
00:17:22.780 Even though it's very clear that these ideas, like you said, filter up through education, through entertainment.
00:17:27.740 They move in from public and private organizations and they completely take over your society.
00:17:33.960 How are conservatives ever going to fight back if they don't understand that this ideology moves very easily between these public and private spheres?
00:17:41.540 Yeah, they won't.
00:17:42.360 They won't.
00:17:42.780 And it's almost childlike the naivete of the conservatives sometimes where he has this world that he wants.
00:17:49.980 And look, it's a world I want, too.
00:17:51.480 He wants, you know, he'll say things like, let's get the, we don't need politics and education.
00:17:57.440 People on the right love to say that.
00:17:58.820 Just get the politics out of education as if that's in any way something that's possible at all.
00:18:04.300 Your child is not taught by a robot.
00:18:06.140 Your child is taught by a flesh and blood human being.
00:18:09.280 They will have biases.
00:18:10.540 Those biases will come through.
00:18:12.280 Your child will pick up on their biases and values.
00:18:15.500 You can choose whether you want those biases to be your values or your enemy's values.
00:18:20.140 But I promise you the enemy is not going to have any hesitation with what he wants out of that whole thing.
00:18:25.320 But we do this lameness all day.
00:18:27.060 And then when we talk about banning, like you were just talking about banning in public and private, again, we go back to this world we want to live in.
00:18:33.500 No, corporations should be apolitical.
00:18:37.020 OK, yeah, they should be, but they're not.
00:18:39.960 All right?
00:18:40.260 The sky should rain sour patch kids today.
00:18:42.280 They should be, but they're not.
00:18:43.380 Instead, these corporations take their massive, massive monetary power, oftentimes in conjunction with the government, using taxpayer money because they almost all get bailed out now.
00:18:54.660 And they use all that money and power and influence to make billboards and TV commercials and everything else, pushing this cultural Marxist filth all over everything.
00:19:03.520 They shouldn't, but they do.
00:19:05.440 So either you can make them pay for that or they'll never stop because the only thing the communist understands is fear and pain.
00:19:11.600 That's all we understand.
00:19:13.040 You're not going to reason with him.
00:19:14.500 You're not going to appeal to his good nature.
00:19:16.640 But we do this because we assign our values to the communist.
00:19:22.300 That is, it's a human thing to do.
00:19:24.120 The guy walking across the street shares, of course, some values with me.
00:19:28.120 That's something that I would assume, but I would be wrong.
00:19:31.460 I would be wrong.
00:19:32.300 He has a totally different outlook on life, a different way to view things.
00:19:36.500 This is why the right, sorry, Aaron, I'm going off for a second.
00:19:38.740 This is why the right, this is why the right loves to point out the hypocrisy.
00:19:43.180 That's all conservatism has really been in my entire life.
00:19:45.960 Can you imagine if a Republican did that?
00:19:47.960 Or I can't believe John Kerry's flying private again.
00:19:51.240 We pointed out his hypocrisy the last hundred times, but he's still flying private.
00:19:55.140 Why is he doing that?
00:19:56.820 John Kerry doesn't share your values.
00:19:59.240 If you were called a hypocrite, it would bother you.
00:20:01.400 You don't want to be a hypocrite.
00:20:02.400 Hypocrites are bad people, even though we're all kind of hypocrites.
00:20:04.880 Hypocrites are bad people.
00:20:05.740 You don't want to be, if someone called you one, you'd look at yourself and think, man,
00:20:08.920 am I a hypocrite?
00:20:10.260 John Kerry doesn't care if he's a hypocrite.
00:20:12.140 It doesn't move him at all.
00:20:13.820 He knows.
00:20:14.380 He doesn't care about that.
00:20:15.360 He thinks he's a king and you're a peasant and he's going to fly private and you're going
00:20:18.280 to eat bugs and you can go screw yourself if you don't like it.
00:20:21.300 Yeah, it's not hypocrisy.
00:20:22.700 It's hierarchy, right?
00:20:23.680 These people, they're letting you know that they are in charge.
00:20:27.860 They're your betters.
00:20:28.620 They're the ones that dictate how you should live.
00:20:30.760 And you don't get to, they don't need to look at you and get advice on you and how to live
00:20:35.880 their lives.
00:20:36.440 They're the ones that tell you how to live your life.
00:20:39.320 And they want you to know, Aron.
00:20:40.780 They want you to know.
00:20:41.360 I'm sorry.
00:20:42.080 They want you to know.
00:20:43.460 I want people to understand this.
00:20:45.360 These politicians, they understand full well that we live in the cell phone era.
00:20:49.580 That every time you're out in public, everybody and their brother has their phone up.
00:20:52.860 I'm on Instagram with the governor.
00:20:55.060 These guys know this.
00:20:56.240 Yet how many people, how many of these politicians were caught violating their own COVID rules
00:21:01.320 during COVID lockdown?
00:21:02.460 It didn't happen once.
00:21:03.540 It was like all of them.
00:21:05.260 And nobody on the right seemed to pick up.
00:21:07.560 They're doing this on purpose.
00:21:09.420 They want you to know.
00:21:10.820 No, no, you wear a mask.
00:21:12.220 You go home.
00:21:13.120 You don't get to go to your job.
00:21:14.500 No, your child stays home.
00:21:16.040 But keep in mind, King Jesse will do whatever he pleases.
00:21:19.980 They want you to know.
00:21:21.360 They're doing it on purpose.
00:21:22.580 Yeah, so getting back to this idea of kind of communism as an attack on the establishment,
00:21:30.340 just a collection of people who want to dismantle the hierarchy of the United States.
00:21:36.020 I think as we see this, right, we see a lot of Leninism involved in this, right?
00:21:40.180 A lot of people have to be installed who are sufficiently loyal to the party.
00:21:44.860 Clown world becomes a uniform.
00:21:46.660 Your allegiance to the ridiculousness shows how loyal you all are to the party and how
00:21:54.180 much you can be trusted.
00:21:55.280 Your actual ability doesn't really matter.
00:21:57.900 What really matters is how much you can show people that you're willing to believe and swallow
00:22:02.460 anything that's pushed down by these people.
00:22:05.360 But obviously, we're seeing some trade-offs, right?
00:22:07.920 If you keep replacing competent people with people who are only loyal to the party, eventually
00:22:13.160 things break down, right?
00:22:15.200 And I think we're starting to see that.
00:22:16.900 We see what's happening in East Palatine right now.
00:22:19.960 We see, you know, train derailments.
00:22:22.320 Planes can't take off.
00:22:23.640 We don't know how to manufacture antibiotics in this country.
00:22:26.320 We're still relying on China who created, you know, the very disaster that we wanted them
00:22:32.440 to solve with drugs.
00:22:33.640 Like, we're still doing this stuff.
00:22:36.040 And it's only getting worse.
00:22:38.400 Eventually, this has to have a break point, right?
00:22:40.820 Eventually, the consequences of this Leninism have to be overbearing for the regime, and
00:22:46.740 they take a hit on this, right?
00:22:50.380 Well, that's the bad news.
00:22:53.200 Eventually.
00:22:54.440 But there's, it's going to take so long.
00:22:57.000 This is what you just referenced is what I've been calling lately the death of everything.
00:23:00.840 And it sounds a little, you know, hyperbole, but it really is that.
00:23:04.840 And I use, I use this example.
00:23:06.820 If I start a construction company, you know, I'm going to build houses.
00:23:10.560 Only I decide every applicant, all that matters, you have to have red hair.
00:23:14.480 Like, I don't care if you have any experience or whatever you got, just Jesse's Ginger Construction
00:23:18.740 Company.
00:23:19.160 Just bring me all the gingers, right?
00:23:21.320 Well, what does that do to my construction company over time?
00:23:23.880 How many homes are crumbling?
00:23:25.420 How many, because they don't know what to do.
00:23:26.600 It's just a bunch of sunburnt gingers out there building bad homes, because I've chosen
00:23:30.200 to focus on something that doesn't matter at all, the color of someone's hair.
00:23:34.200 We are doing that as an entire nation right now.
00:23:37.040 Not only are we doing it, it's public.
00:23:39.700 They are publicly saying right now, we are not choosing the best pilot to fly you and
00:23:45.240 the other 300 people on the plane around anymore.
00:23:47.560 This is public.
00:23:48.240 It's not private.
00:23:48.940 They're saying this publicly.
00:23:50.200 We're not picking the best pilot.
00:23:52.040 We need some black women in here.
00:23:53.500 This is a stance that companies are taking publicly.
00:23:57.620 Companies who can be sued, they're taking that stance publicly.
00:24:01.040 Apply that to the medical field.
00:24:02.560 That next surgery you have, that's your doctor, went through the medical school.
00:24:06.300 Apply that to the cops, the judges, the lawyers.
00:24:09.620 Apply it to the private sector.
00:24:11.140 Everything will die slowly as we as a nation focus on diversity and equity and everything
00:24:17.940 that doesn't matter at all.
00:24:19.420 So help me out here, because this is something that I hear from some people in the GOP, and
00:24:25.900 it really confuses me.
00:24:27.860 So we have civil rights law, right?
00:24:30.480 And civil rights law has done so much for the left.
00:24:33.140 It's still achieving all kinds of things that they want.
00:24:36.060 It's allowing them to separate children from their parents as long as the children think
00:24:40.000 they've received some kind of identity from their kindergarten teacher, right?
00:24:44.360 Like, it's enabling the government to do all this stuff.
00:24:48.240 And I'm told by conservatives that you can't talk about this, because civil rights law is
00:24:53.420 basically sacred, and there's no way to address this.
00:24:56.480 But civil rights law doesn't seem to stop the actual government of the United States from
00:25:01.360 discriminating against certain people, right?
00:25:03.560 As long as they're the right color of skin.
00:25:05.920 Like you said, we have private companies like airplane companies, and we also have public
00:25:10.740 entities specifically choosing not to hire people because they don't meet some kind of
00:25:15.080 diversity quota.
00:25:16.500 If civil rights law is supposed to solve this problem, why does it only seem to work one
00:25:20.840 way?
00:25:21.200 Why does it only seem to work for some groups and others?
00:25:24.040 Is this just because they favor the left?
00:25:25.880 Is that all civil rights law is at this point?
00:25:28.320 Of course it's all it is at this point.
00:25:29.980 All laws are at this point in time, once all the communists have taken over the administrative
00:25:34.500 state and every other thing, all laws are simply a cudgel used to beat the right.
00:25:38.700 But the right is so pathetic when it comes to things like this, because they're like
00:25:44.240 that dog that's been abused and hit too many times.
00:25:47.320 Now all you got to do is raise your hand and the dog will go screw you to the corner.
00:25:50.480 That's how Republicans operate whenever any issue comes up that might have to do with
00:25:54.360 black people at all.
00:25:55.860 They have been so beaten over the face with, you're a racist, America's racist, you're a
00:26:01.000 racist, America's racist, we have to win the black vote, let's get the black vote.
00:26:04.340 Hey, did we spring enough people out of prison to get the black vote?
00:26:06.620 Let's get the black vote that now the second you can bring up anything that has to do with
00:26:11.340 rights, or if you bring up the fact that the United States government has declared open
00:26:15.760 war on the American church, because that's the last major voting bloc of their political
00:26:20.060 opponents.
00:26:20.900 If you bring any of these things up, they will immediately go run and hide in the corner and
00:26:25.380 tell you, well, I mean, you don't understand.
00:26:27.320 I mean, look, I have black friends that you get these lame arguments that aren't even what
00:26:32.200 you're talking about at all.
00:26:33.880 We're not talking about skin color here.
00:26:35.560 We're talking about a war being waged on you, a political war, a cultural war, using
00:26:40.800 things like the Civil Rights Act against the political opponents of the left.
00:26:45.240 It has nothing to do with skin color anymore.
00:26:47.080 Those days are gone.
00:26:48.100 Wake up and grow up.
00:26:49.240 JFK's dead.
00:26:50.440 We have a brand new Democrat party now.
00:26:52.780 Well, and like you said, we know that the FBI just rescinded a memo, whatever that means,
00:26:58.420 about them targeting Catholic services if they happen to be more traditional and use the
00:27:03.800 Latin mass. It's wild how, again, I see so many Republicans just like, we need to worry
00:27:09.420 about candidate equality. We've got to figure out, you know, while the FBI is literally just
00:27:15.880 going around and persecuting Christians, attacking parents who want to protest a school
00:27:21.920 board meeting because their child was raped in a bathroom by a transgender student. Like,
00:27:27.160 we just see this over and over again. The FBI specifically going out of its way to target
00:27:31.840 pro-life people. They are actively attacking the GOP coalition, or at least what's supposed
00:27:38.420 to be the GOP coalition in theory. And all the GOP can talk about is like, well, we've got to get rid
00:27:43.160 of any of those Trump guys so we can get more Mitt Romney's elected. They'll solve this problem.
00:27:47.400 What is going on? Yeah, no, it's definitely Hershel Walker's fault. And look, this is exactly what
00:27:53.360 I'm talking about, Aaron. And the right is, maybe things are so far gone that I can make an excuse
00:27:58.180 for them. But I want people to really sit and think about this for a moment. The Supreme Court
00:28:03.040 overturned Roe versus Wade because abortion is a sacrament to the communists and they're all
00:28:07.840 anti-humans anyway. Well, Solzhenitsyn called them the enemies of humanity. That's probably a better
00:28:11.740 way to put it. They love abortion, right? So they were really mad that Roe versus Wade got overturned
00:28:15.800 and there were states where it got banned. In response to the Supreme Court overturning a law,
00:28:21.920 the Department of Justice worked in conjunction with the FBI to go have pastors arrested for
00:28:28.480 reading Bible verses at abortion clinics. That is such a shocking abuse of power. In a nation that
00:28:35.320 was interested in surviving, the entire Federal Bureau of Investigation would have been shut down
00:28:40.220 immediately, closed the doors, nobody allowed in the office. We will have public hearings and decide
00:28:45.200 whether the place can ever be open. That's the kind of reaction you have to that kind of abuse
00:28:50.400 of power. Merrick Garland goes to prison and never sees the light of day again. I'm talking 23 hours a
00:28:55.980 day, complete confinement. That's how a sane country would respond to that kind of abuse of political
00:29:02.720 power. Instead, I think we talked about it for 15 minutes and it's, oh, well, hey man, that's
00:29:07.720 Hershel Walker's an idiot, huh? That's who we are.
00:29:11.020 Yeah, absolutely. You just look at what's happening with Fetterman right now and he can't speak. He's
00:29:18.640 going to the hospital for depression, but yeah, we're still talking about candidate quality on
00:29:22.640 the right. If the left can elect Joe Biden, but really, yeah, it's Marjorie Taylor Greene that's
00:29:27.700 the issue. So before we wrap things up, do you see any bright spots? We've talked a lot about the
00:29:35.420 problems here, but do you see any encouraging movement, any people or any areas where you think
00:29:41.140 the right's getting it? They're starting to understand what's going on. You're seeing a
00:29:44.100 positive change in the way their mentality and how they're going to approach this stuff?
00:29:48.640 Oh, of course. I see tons of it. The problem is people who don't see it are looking in the wrong
00:29:53.820 places. If you're looking in the federal government, you're not going to find it there. The federal
00:29:57.300 government's lost. It's gone. You're stressing about 2024 and you shouldn't. Put that out of
00:30:02.200 your mind. People are waking up and they're running for local office, school board. There are still
00:30:07.880 huge pockets in this country, millions and millions and millions of people, huge pockets where you can
00:30:13.760 preserve a great bit of your way of life for your kids and their kids and their kids after them
00:30:19.500 if you turn into an activist locally. Yes, you should be protesting in front of your city hall
00:30:24.700 with signs and screaming until the local drag show is stopped. You should be running for school board.
00:30:29.600 You should be running for DA, for sheriff. And people are. I have email after email,
00:30:35.120 stacks of them of people telling me, Jesse, I'm running. I'm on. Jesse, I'm in the school board now.
00:30:39.240 I don't know what I'm doing. It's so exciting. Jesse, over and over and over again, people are waking up
00:30:43.880 to how bad it is. And that's really what we need, Aaron, because as much as I make fun of them for the
00:30:48.400 silent majority thing, we are a majority. Like what you want is what people want. We just haven't
00:30:53.920 had any idea how to fight for it yet. If we could just slap that majority awake, we can do a lot of
00:30:58.920 good. And they're waking up slowly. I hope that's true. I think it's going to take some more, a little
00:31:04.380 more top-down capture. I think it's going to take some more institutions and some people who can shake
00:31:09.200 those things up. But yeah, but you're right. Local does matter. If you were looking to make a
00:31:14.640 difference, running for sheriff, running for school board, controlling those local offices can
00:31:20.320 do way more. As somebody who is a subject of King DeSantis at the moment, let me tell you,
00:31:26.900 it's a much better life down in Florida than it was in most places during COVID. So those regional
00:31:32.800 leadership matters in a way that unfortunately sometimes that federal leadership cannot. So
00:31:37.920 that's definitely, I think, a good message for people to understand.
00:31:41.320 All right, Jesse. So where, or I guess the book is coming out, but it's going to be a little bit,
00:31:46.380 right? It's not out yet. Yeah, it's not out yet. It's not out till June. Now you can buy them
00:31:51.000 pre-order right now. jessikellybook.com has all the different websites on it if people want it.
00:31:56.960 They're shipping them on June 6th, but you can buy them now.
00:32:00.220 Excellent. So make sure you're checking out Jesse's radio show and of course his program
00:32:03.580 on the 1st. Jesse, thank you so much for joining me. I think it was great talking with you, man.
00:32:07.980 Thank you, my man. I enjoyed it.
00:32:09.100 All right. Thanks for watching, guys. And as always, I'll talk to you next time.