The Auron MacIntyre Show - Will Javier Milei Save Argentina？｜ Guest： Lady Astor ｜ 11⧸30⧸23

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00:00:30.300 Hey everybody, how's it going?

00:00:32.100 Thanks for joining me this afternoon.

00:00:33.660 I've got a great stream with a great guest that I think you're really going to enjoy.

00:00:37.820 So, there's been a run of these different populist politicians.

00:00:42.940 They come out of nowhere.

00:00:44.060 The media screams bloody murder.

00:00:46.460 Oh, the far right is on the march and they're going to win everything.

00:00:49.440 The populists are taking over.

00:00:51.440 And then they get elected and it's been a mixed bag.

00:00:54.320 You have some people who seem like big successes.

00:00:57.340 Some people who are very disappointing.

00:00:59.420 And it's hard to know because the media just blows this stuff out of proportion how real these people are.

00:01:05.520 How much of an effect they're going to have if they're going to be a positive force for their countries and for kind of the wider movement against the globalists.

00:01:14.500 And so, one of those people who's obviously been a big deal has been Javier Mele.

00:01:20.220 He has won.

00:01:21.360 He's a libertarian.

00:01:22.940 And he's running around with chainsaws.

00:01:25.500 And he's got a superhero costume.

00:01:27.620 A lot of people have questions.

00:01:28.800 Is this guy for real?

00:01:30.200 Is he really going to change things?

00:01:32.060 But I think what's most important is understanding the state that Argentina was in before that election.

00:01:38.100 And so, to do that, I wanted to bring in somebody who could tell us a little more about the on-the-ground politics, the history, and what this victory means.

00:01:46.900 Joining me today is the constant presence in the online right Twittersphere and a sub-stack writer, Lady Astor.

00:01:54.340 Thank you for joining me.

00:01:55.960 Thank you so much for having me.

00:01:58.060 Hi.

00:01:59.140 Hi.

00:01:59.480 No, it's great because, like I said, I saw you posting.

00:02:03.460 And I was a little hesitant when I originally saw the win because, again, at this point, I've had so many times the press has hyped up these candidates.

00:02:11.580 And so, I was like, I want to see some action before I get too excited.

00:02:16.340 But you were letting people know that you felt this was a big win for the people of Argentina.

00:02:21.640 And because, of course, you have far more knowledge when it comes to kind of the reality of this, I wanted to bring you on so you could let people know kind of the background and what this victory means.

00:02:32.400 Well, thank you so much again.

00:02:34.660 And first off, this was absolutely unexpected.

00:02:38.800 I was rooting for the win and thought that he had a real shot.

00:02:43.660 But never could imagine he'd win by such a high margin.

00:02:49.100 We're talking 11, almost 12 points difference.

00:02:54.260 Millet won by 56 percent easy, super comfortable.

00:02:59.660 And I bet that if you take all the foul play that we're used to in this country, because, of course, there's destruction of ballots, miscounting,

00:03:10.480 and especially in certain provinces, which are basically feudal, you know, enclaves in which the governor is lord.

00:03:20.760 Some of them have been for decades in power.

00:03:23.760 So they are able to even control, you know, the IDs of the people and you can fill out free ballots, you know, in those places.

00:03:34.460 Of course, not in the cities that are controlled by other parties.

00:03:39.500 But if you take that into consideration, I'd tell you that he won by 60 percent.

00:03:44.280 So what does this mean? 0.94

00:03:46.720 This means that people were completely fed up and they wanted radical change and they were not turned off by all this talk about, like, he's a madman.

00:03:56.880 Oh, my God, what is he going to do?

00:04:00.420 Just think about this in these terms.

00:04:03.160 What we had was the devil, you know, or an opportunity for something different that perhaps you don't really know what's going to happen.

00:04:15.980 But the uncertainty is preferred to the certainty of doom.

00:04:22.400 And after the past four years, which were excruciating to live through, I think people said no more.

00:04:31.400 And no matter what, like, the ruling party did to stay in power, it was not enough because people truly wanted to change and were fed up.

00:04:44.040 And this was the answer.

00:04:46.300 Yeah, I think that's a pattern we've seen happen so often.

00:04:50.240 Of course, a lot of people want to call him, you know, the Argentinian Trump.

00:04:53.740 And it seems like everybody's, you know, every every the U.S. always wants to tie everybody to their latest election.

00:04:59.640 But but a lot of people have seen that phenomenon of throwing off the establishment and being willing to take a chance with the unknown because the establishment is so frustrating.

00:05:08.620 I want to dive into that history you've been taught you were talking about so that we have a frame of reference as to what this win means before we talk about Melee himself.

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00:06:57.300 All right, so Lady Astor, like I said, I want to set that frame so we understand what happened with this election.

00:07:04.460 So for people who are unfamiliar with Argentina and kind of the political dynamic there,

00:07:09.900 I know there's probably way more that we can get into right now,

00:07:14.260 but could you give a basic outline of the situation?

00:07:17.600 I know Argentina, for instance, has defaulted on its debt multiple times.

00:07:21.420 That's had a serious economic impact and an impact on, obviously, the way people are living their lives there.

00:07:27.300 Could you talk a little bit about how things have been in the last 20 or so years in Argentina?

00:07:33.960 Yes.

00:07:34.620 Well, first off, it's perhaps there's two ways to go at this.

00:07:39.620 We can start 20 years ago or we can start in 1983.

00:07:45.220 So 1983 is the return of, quote-unquote, democracy to Argentina.

00:07:53.780 You have to notice that this is a country that's been through 14 coup de tats, okay?

00:08:00.160 So that democracy is something that has always been considered kind of flimsy,

00:08:06.220 flimsy, and right now it's been 40 years of democracy and it's been crowned by this election,

00:08:12.840 which, you know, could signal to things either that it's working really well

00:08:18.020 or that it's about to, you know, be challenged.

00:08:22.140 You could, you know, think of both situations.

00:08:24.760 So from 1976 until 1983, you had the military junta in charge of the country.

00:08:33.360 Before that, you have Perón.

00:08:36.680 Why am I mentioning this date so far into the past?

00:08:41.800 It's because the seed of everything that's been going on started there and then.

00:08:50.340 Of course, you know, Perón is a very divisive figure in politics.

00:08:54.700 And, of course, in Argentina, you are either a Peronist or an anti-Peronist,

00:09:00.580 which are colloquially called gorillas.

00:09:04.260 I'm not indeed a gorilla.

00:09:07.460 I am pretty much sympathizing of certain things regarding Peronism,

00:09:14.560 not the things that have been happening in the past 20 years, for sure,

00:09:21.480 because I don't consider that real Peronism, but that's a super long and very complicated chat.

00:09:27.940 I cannot delve into that because there's not enough time in the world to debate this.

00:09:36.160 But basically, when Perón was not in Argentina,

00:09:42.460 he courted both the left and the right wings within his supporters

00:09:48.120 in order to make force to bring.

00:09:51.200 But some of them, Montoneros, Irv, they were like Marxist guerrillas,

00:09:58.020 many of them who were trained in Cuba, inspired by the Cuban Revolution.

00:10:04.140 So they began doing a series of terrorist attacks on the population

00:10:11.280 and to certain military enclaves, you know, and all that.

00:10:18.360 So this is very complicated because this is what sets the grounds for this.

00:10:25.920 They hate it when we call it war, but for me, it was a war.

00:10:29.940 A lot of people are going to eviscerate me on Twitter.

00:10:33.500 I know this, but I was not alive then.

00:10:37.800 And from the knowledge that I have, there were two factions within Peronism

00:10:42.920 and they took the country by storm.

00:10:47.780 Peron created the AAA right wing death squads in order to deal with the Marxist guerrillas.

00:10:56.020 They took over entire provinces back in the day.

00:11:00.580 So the problem is that at one point, Peron dies and his wife, Isabel,

00:11:08.380 is left in charge of the government.

00:11:11.500 And she has, you know, an advisor called López Regas, called the Dark Monk.

00:11:17.380 They are certainly completely anti-communist.

00:11:21.440 Actually, there's a backstory in which late Mr. Kissinger was trying to have meetings

00:11:29.980 in which Nixon would partner with Peron and have a complete anti-communist alliance

00:11:36.940 of the entire Americas, thereby destroying what communism would become,

00:11:44.040 was becoming, would become.

00:11:45.440 And I'm very sorry that that did not happen.

00:11:49.480 And I know that I'm going to be eviscerated by saying this as well.

00:11:53.340 But this is the scene. 0.94

00:11:54.760 So at one point, stupidly, the Junta decides to go to war against Britain. 0.97

00:12:03.260 It was a very noble cause. 0.95

00:12:05.480 It still is a noble cause.

00:12:07.520 Sadly, Argentina loses.

00:12:11.080 And I believe that the true cost of losing that war was never revealed to the Argentine population.

00:12:21.580 But the win by Alfonsín, a social democrat who was very much close to communists and socialists,

00:12:34.000 became president and he's been considered the father of democracy.

00:12:40.480 But to be honest, you know, that began a process of humiliation of Argentina 0.58

00:12:46.920 and submission towards the so-called world order, you know.

00:12:53.640 And from that moment on, if you take out the 1986 World Cup soccer win,

00:13:02.520 then you have year upon year of humiliation and dismantling of everything

00:13:08.660 from the armed forces to things that are intrinsically part of the Argentine culture.

00:13:14.880 You know, basically every single part of the agenda to, you know, change the fabric of Western countries

00:13:28.880 has been enacted here because Argentina is the testing ground for the rest of Latin America.

00:13:36.320 So we always get everything first, like divorce laws first, then everyone else,

00:13:41.640 abortion laws first, then everyone else, the civil union of homosexuals the same,

00:13:52.400 you know, things like that.

00:13:53.820 Because, of course, and I believe that in huge part, this were like the costs of losing this war.

00:14:01.140 But from then, we had a moment, hyperinflation at the end of the Alfonsín presidency,

00:14:12.680 talking about 1986 to 1989.

00:14:16.840 This was truly terrible.

00:14:19.280 I was a child and we also had attempted coup d'etats,

00:14:23.780 seen things like tanks in the streets and mortar fire from my balcony,

00:14:28.800 something that never happened in January 6th, 2021.

00:14:35.480 Okay, so like...

00:14:37.260 What real insurrection looks like.

00:14:38.840 Yes, exactly.

00:14:40.560 Like, your country has not seen this in the last century, I believe.

00:14:47.200 Well, if we don't count the weather underground and Susan Rosenberg-sponsored attacks to the Capitol,

00:14:53.880 am I right?

00:14:54.900 Sure, no, leftists are allowed to do terrorism.

00:14:57.320 They're fine.

00:14:57.780 They get university stations after they do that.

00:15:01.780 Ah, yes, of course.

00:15:02.940 They don't go to jail.

00:15:04.200 Well, but it's similar here.

00:15:05.960 So, you know, all the terrorists from the 70s that were supposedly eradicated and forced into exile

00:15:13.280 and persecuted by the military, but they all went into government.

00:15:19.020 They all went into NGOs.

00:15:21.000 They got lots of government subsidies for all their terrible and gruesome stories,

00:15:28.420 some of which were true.

00:15:30.960 And actually, that was the greatest mistake because I do not support whatsoever the military junta. 0.97

00:15:39.820 I think that they were foolish and they did not do what they were tasked to do correctly. 0.93

00:15:47.520 And actually, they were, you know, remnants from Perón, you know, 0.99

00:15:52.600 because they were not named into the positions just by, you know, a magical genie.

00:15:58.420 You know, someone placed them in their positions and nobody's asking these questions.

00:16:04.700 But after Alfonsín and extreme poverty, I'm telling you, Argentina in the 1980s looked like Eastern Europe.

00:16:15.160 People dressed with like track suits and like cheap imitations of American trainers.

00:16:24.460 And suddenly in 1989 comes a Peronist, this Menem. 0.99

00:16:32.880 And Menem was kind of like under the table partner of Bush Sr.

00:16:42.320 This is what we call here in Argentina a testaferro.

00:16:46.960 I don't know if you're familiar with that word, but it's basically a nominee of someone, you know,

00:16:55.240 it's like a person who's empowered to take certain decisions.

00:17:00.880 So this made Argentina become a part of the G20s.

00:17:05.960 And the first, the first years, the first presidency of Menem was a moment of economic bonanza.

00:17:16.840 But at the same time, he privatized a lot of public utilities and companies.

00:17:23.920 And eventually, much of that money was dilapidated via corruption.

00:17:32.100 And the second menem presidency was a complete debacle.

00:17:35.820 And then came briefly, De La Rua, in 2000.

00:17:44.180 He's a radical.

00:17:45.500 Radicals have nothing to do with like being a radical.

00:17:48.940 That's the name of the radical party.

00:17:51.260 They're milquetoast social democrats.

00:17:55.200 Okay.

00:17:55.540 And very progressive, really like a bane in this country.

00:18:02.380 They manage bureaucracy and they will never go away.

00:18:06.780 So then we have De La Rua, who is a complete disaster and has to leave the presidency in just two years.

00:18:17.260 And that's the famous 2001 default that everyone talks about, in which Argentina has five presidents in a week.

00:18:25.540 So I lived through it.

00:18:29.760 That's the moment I leave the country and go on a like a world tour of living in seven different countries, lots of cities.

00:18:39.420 I was actually working.

00:18:41.340 I was an academic back in the day.

00:18:45.220 I studied philosophy, journalism and English.

00:18:49.440 And I was working for a university at the time and as an interpreter for the Ministry of Education and the National Senate.

00:19:01.280 And I left all that, first off, because it was boring.

00:19:04.580 But secondly, because the economy was in the tank and I was not going to stay like waiting because I was too young.

00:19:15.420 I didn't want to stay for it, you know, to just put my life on hold because of that.

00:19:21.680 So in 2003, there's a new election.

00:19:27.840 Menem presents himself again and he actually won, but he went to Balotage against someone nobody knew who he was.

00:19:38.080 This weird looking guy from Santa Cruz, it's a province in Patagonia with, you know, little population and a complete unknown comes with the right godfather, which is Dualde. 0.79

00:19:58.560 Dualde, he's a kingmaker and he was a VP for President Menem and he's behind some shady stuff, but I'm not going to talk ill about him, you know.

00:20:12.640 Sounds wise.

00:20:13.540 So some things happened and somehow Nestor Kirchner becomes president and he begins a turn completely left to the point that there's this anchor lady.

00:20:33.960 She is very famous as Mirta Legrand.

00:20:37.280 She has a talk show since the 60s.

00:20:40.040 So she's like eternal.

00:20:41.760 She's outlived the Queen of England now. 1.00

00:20:45.840 And so when she hosts them in her show, the lunches of Mirta Legrand, she says,

00:20:53.120 Is the left wing coming?

00:20:57.280 Like with imagine that with like an elderly lady voice. 1.00

00:21:00.780 She was actually smartly, you know, her kind of senses were wise to the fact that something had changed.

00:21:11.760 And then comes complete alignment to Cuba and Chavez at the time.

00:21:19.640 But what many people don't know is that there was also a philosopher, an Argentine married to a French lady that was operating from Britain, Essex University.

00:21:34.680 His name was Ernesto Laclau, and his wife, Chantal Mouffeux.

00:21:42.200 And they are the ideologues, the true godfathers of left wing populism.

00:21:50.120 And I have no idea why nobody's talking about this, that basically all the left wing populism of Latin America in that decade, the 2000s, actually stems from Essex University in the UK.

00:22:09.200 I think that's hilariously funny.

00:22:12.960 Because, as you know, well, we were in a war with Britain, but Britain tried to invade Argentina several times.

00:22:21.520 You know, we fought two British invasions and we won.

00:22:27.520 And then Roses was able to stop them in the river when the French and the British joint forces at the famed Vuelta de Obligado battle, in which eventually they're lost.

00:22:42.080 But, you know, the embargo of the river was successful enough that they basically decided that it was too costly to pursue because of the blockade.

00:22:53.680 So in the end, it ended up being successful.

00:22:57.500 But Argentina is a mysterious country and there's a lot that is said and much of it is not true.

00:23:04.640 And much of it, it's like propaganda being more successful than factual reality.

00:23:12.160 For example, that notion that there's many Germans living in Argentina, which is not real.

00:23:21.020 There's less than 8% of the Argentine population are descended from Germans.

00:23:27.080 And more than half of those are Bulga Germans that came in the 19th century and have nothing to do with the others.

00:23:34.640 But, you know, it's like the power of Hollywood and, you know, there's nothing we can do about that.

00:23:41.960 So you were telling me that the last four years have been particularly brutal, especially on young people with the COVID lockdown.

00:23:49.880 I was not aware of the severity that lockdown measures had gone to in Argentina during that time.

00:23:56.760 Can you tell me a little bit about how that set the stage for Mele's win?

00:24:01.140 Yes.

00:24:01.580 Well, first, as I said, the Kirchner, you know, the Kirchner decades become too long.

00:24:11.460 Then in 2015, there was an unlikely win by Mauricio Macri, a contender.

00:24:18.860 But he ended up not being able to fulfill his promises of a better economy.

00:24:26.560 And especially he kind of betrayed his voting base because he became a lot like Barry Agenda 2030.

00:24:37.160 He's been seen in a political act waving a global citizen flag.

00:24:43.800 People were horrified.

00:24:45.320 OK, so for a while, there was two factions and there was called the crack, La Grieta.

00:24:53.320 So you had Kirchneristas and anti-Kirchneristas.

00:24:56.880 But that was untenable.

00:24:59.520 And the Macri government was very underwhelming and could be considered a failure.

00:25:06.760 Actually, there's a great article by BAP on this.

00:25:10.100 I think everybody should read it.

00:25:12.980 So then the Kirchneristas, because of the bad economy, they are able to win again. 0.99

00:25:20.700 And they bring Alberto Fernandez, who used to be mostly a political operator that was close to the Kirchners. 0.92

00:25:27.800 And of course, Cristina as VP, because she's, of course, a big figure in Argentine politics.

00:25:36.000 And I have to say, she's been smart and she had great charisma during her presidency.

00:25:43.680 Now she's lost her shine, you know, and she's beleaguered. 0.99

00:25:50.160 And I think that the attempted murder that she had, where people basically did not believe that someone truly wanted to kill her, I think that hit her in a big way.

00:26:03.100 But, well, 2019, there's a very tough election, but this is still the election of the crack, in which the perception is that there's two sides in Argentinian politics.

00:26:16.360 But that was already not so.

00:26:19.460 So there's a big part of the population that's completely forgotten by both factions that dispute power.

00:26:27.840 Then, well, Alberto Fernandez wins, and then when he's about to begin his term, COVID hits, and somehow they become, I don't know if they were reading from the Chinese playbook or what, but the pandemic restrictions here were very, very tough.

00:26:54.000 There was 155 days of full lockdown, we had curfews, you could only get out of your house to buy basic groceries, every restaurant, everything closed, everything that you could do outside, you could not even go to a park.

00:27:13.740 I've had my sister come to pick up some food to my house.

00:27:18.020 She lived only four blocks away, and she was chased by a police car, you know, because they wanted to see if she was going home, to where she was going, when it was my father's anniversary of his passing.

00:27:32.880 Because his resting place is not in the city where I live, but in the outskirts of the city, and I could not take any vehicle or public transportation, not even an own car, because I had not a pass.

00:27:51.380 I was not an essential worker or anything.

00:27:53.760 So I was confined to my house, I would take a, like a, just a bag, like a shopper bag, and pretend I was shopping, and would walk many, many, many streets in order to cross the bridge and visit my father.

00:28:11.340 That, you know, that for me was especially heavy, but for the children, and for young people, teenagers and children, they suffered the most, because soon it was evident that this illness, it was not hard for them.

00:28:31.500 And they were forced to take years of their life for something that did not affect them, in order to safeguard who, obviously, the government considered more important.

00:28:46.720 And you, you would see that they also had, like special privileges for people within the party, then when the vaccines became available, there was like a VIP vaccine list, so only people who were part of the party, you know, the nomenclatura of kirchnerismo, were able to get those shots.

00:29:15.020 And, you know, people were, you know, people were allowed to visit their loved ones in hospital.

00:29:21.860 Many people died alone.

00:29:24.060 So this was terrible.

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00:29:57.620 My husband and I, we both work in entertainment, so our jobs were completely destroyed.

00:30:04.800 And fortunately, I'm a writer, and I was able to get by writing and doing translations.

00:30:12.060 But many people lost everything, and the government felt completely tone-deaf.

00:30:17.380 They did not care, and it seemed that they actually were relishing this punishment visited upon the middle class, specifically.

00:30:25.780 And also, everyone who works outside of the home.

00:30:30.580 So this was a precious gift for the laptop class and for government bureaucrats.

00:30:37.120 But it was hell for everyone else.

00:30:40.080 And these Versailles wannabes, they were completely oblivious to the suffering of the rest of the population.

00:30:47.760 Incoming with the downward spiral of inflation that's now reached 150%, then you can imagine the despair of the people.

00:31:01.880 But there were some canaries in the coal mine.

00:31:04.620 I remember at one point, a friend of mine who's a photographer, because they started to, at one point, they started to open up certain venues.

00:31:15.620 But it was almost solely visited by people who were very young, the only ones who dared and were hungry to go out.

00:31:24.900 So this photographer of mine tells me, okay, so I went to this party in Seaside Resort Town of Mar del Plata.

00:31:31.920 And this, and I went inside with one of these, like, muscles for the face, right?

00:31:39.460 Like this face masks.

00:31:41.320 And he says that the kids began to curse at him and attack him, even went so far to remove his mask and throw it in the ground. 1.00

00:31:52.480 And they were, like, literally screaming at him, fuck you, boomer, fuck you, boomers, things like that. 1.00

00:31:58.620 Like, I'm sorry, please excuse my French for dropping the F-bomb, but it was like that. 1.00

00:32:05.820 So I'm just trying to convey the level of aggression.

00:32:10.360 And when I was told this, I told my husband, listen, I think that something else is going on.

00:32:16.640 Something is brewing.

00:32:17.780 And it's not going to be pretty because you have a situation of people who are getting lavish payments through government contacts and positions and make-believe jobs.

00:32:30.780 But all these kids, these abandoned kids that are treated like they are the devil, because specifically, the administration of Alberto Fernandos was very pandering to all the woke pieties.

00:32:46.900 Literally, it seemed that they had, I don't know, they were taking a script from someone in Williamsburg.

00:32:53.360 It was like something that had no, you couldn't understand it.

00:33:01.040 In the middle of the pandemic, when everybody was in lockdown, they presented an ID specifically for non-binary people.

00:33:11.260 Imagine the tone deafness.

00:33:14.080 Yeah.

00:33:14.180 And then they have the census through the pandemic.

00:33:20.320 And in the census, they put like a little section where people had to say if their gender did not fit the one that they were given at birth, whatever.

00:33:34.260 So they wanted to see, okay, so how many people in this country are truly, you know, gender challenged?

00:33:42.200 Like, this was the question.

00:33:43.900 I'm using gender challenged from here on out.

00:33:46.020 That's a great, that's a great, great.

00:33:47.740 You're welcome.

00:33:49.920 And the accounting was 0.002%.

00:33:56.920 Basically, we're talking about 5,000 people in the entire country.

00:34:01.960 And the truth of the matter is that very quickly, people like the mayor of the city of Buenos Aires, Rodriguez Larreta, who basically governed, he lost his election, but he governed by focus groups.

00:34:20.660 He was like, okay, everybody just drop everything regarding inclusive language now, yesterday, drop it, ban it, get it out of here. 1.00

00:34:33.840 We're not, like, we're not pissing people off because of 5,000 fanatics in the entire country.

00:34:41.040 We're just not.

00:34:42.960 But this tells you about what was the priority for the Fernandez administration.

00:34:48.960 They literally were pandering to every woke collective, but not to people who were hungry.

00:34:56.360 And then we reached 2023, and you have 60% of children living under the line of poverty.

00:35:05.380 Wow.

00:35:06.520 60% of children who cannot eat a square meal a day.

00:35:10.460 And you have government-funded investigations at Conicet, where they are paying almost a million pesos a month to someone who's doing research on Batman's anus.

00:35:28.160 No, I'm not joking.

00:35:29.580 I wish I was.

00:35:30.480 So, unfortunately, while it's both sad and hilarious at the same time, this story sounds very familiar.

00:35:41.000 It's, of course, got its own Argentinian flair, but, you know, the need of these people, the obsession with, you know, these leftist policies that feel, you know, imported from other places,

00:35:53.680 just ignoring the devastation of the average person, their way of life, their well-being, so many people in poverty damaged by these leftist policies beforehand,

00:36:04.540 and then, obviously, the lockdown and the focus on this stuff.

00:36:08.160 It sounds, again, very familiar, and I think that's why we're seeing this pattern repeat over and over again.

00:36:14.340 I'm really glad that you gave us that background, because I think that's going to help people understand more than about kind of what happened with Melee here.

00:36:21.980 And I want to get into, then, you know, how this brings him, but maybe get a little more of his backstory,

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00:37:44.560 All right, so like I said, understand now that everyone there is in a – you're seeing that backlash after these lockdowns,

00:37:53.980 after the callous way that the government is treating the average person, after this focus on wokeness.

00:37:59.380 I have a lot of people asking – I thought I heard it too – did you say that they spent money on Batman's anus?

00:38:04.760 I'm sorry, I don't want to get too deep into that, but I'm fascinated now.

00:38:08.380 Well, yes, actually, this was a talking point during the campaign, and I have to shine a light on a now newly minted BP.

00:38:21.560 She's going to – she's the running mate of Millet, Victoria Bichadruel. 1.00

00:38:26.280 Fortunately, she's a friend of mine, and I love her very much.

00:38:30.240 I'm very proud.

00:38:31.740 But yes, there is – this investigation was conducted by sociologists whose name is Facundo Saxe,

00:38:40.260 and I can – people can Google it.

00:38:44.940 I'm going to share this, like they can Google that this was a real investigation in which he was talking about the machismo,

00:38:56.120 like it's like from a feminist point of view and how like the anti-gay, you know, investigation,

00:39:03.180 like just something completely out of any coherence, but money was spent on this.

00:39:10.060 But did it involve Batman?

00:39:11.700 It did. It did. It did.

00:39:14.400 That's amazing.

00:39:16.300 I'm actually now searching.

00:39:18.960 Yes, there's – I'm sharing with you.

00:39:22.200 People can, of course, you know, look it for themselves.

00:39:29.900 Yes, there's a whole article about the report.

00:39:35.180 It's called – the report is called Anal Comics.

00:39:40.500 When the comic book opens our bats, and we like it, published by educator Facundo Saxe.

00:39:51.000 Amazing.

00:39:51.560 Yes, so it is true.

00:39:53.820 I'm going to share with you the link so you can share it with interested people who might not believe this is true,

00:40:01.460 but sadly, it was and is true.

00:40:04.980 And while children were hungry, the nation was spending money on this.

00:40:12.460 There you go.

00:40:13.520 Yep, okay.

00:40:14.340 Amazing.

00:40:15.200 Wow.

00:40:16.300 All right.

00:40:17.220 Like I said, I just wanted to make sure we heard you right because that was too –

00:40:20.680 No, no, no.

00:40:21.440 No, you didn't hear me right.

00:40:23.560 All right.

00:40:24.080 So this is the –

00:40:24.820 Actually, no, I wanted to notice something.

00:40:27.820 Actually, it was the feminists and their gruesome displays when they passed and celebrated the abortion laws 0.99

00:40:37.200 that opened up the country to, like, the pandemic being over because their street celebrations gave us all the knowledge that, of course, the virus was not dangerous.

00:40:52.060 Oh, so this is like your BLM where all of a sudden you're supposed to be locked down.

00:40:57.780 Everything is incredibly dangerous.

00:40:59.160 That is correct.

00:40:59.760 Yes.

00:40:59.900 And then these people are celebrating in the streets and they're showing you actually this is not a problem at all.

00:41:04.020 Yeah, they were the end.

00:41:07.060 They brought forth the end.

00:41:09.320 And there's another thing that people don't talk about.

00:41:12.180 I wrote about it in my sub stack.

00:41:14.020 After the passage of a law that was passed at 4 a.m. in the morning, people have to understand that Argentina is a country very much infected by radical feminism

00:41:27.020 because Argentina has 53% females and only 47% men.

00:41:36.180 So this creates a situation of imbalance and the movement that was funded lavishly by foreign NGOs has appended the country.

00:41:49.040 Basically, there's been like a vicious deployment of lawfare upon men.

00:41:55.120 So this law that I'm talking about is called Ley Olimpia.

00:42:00.620 The law Olimpia basically punishes any man who dares to disrespect or in any way direct violence against a woman online.

00:42:16.360 And this also includes WhatsApp or Signal or Telegram.

00:42:21.420 And it's so vague, this law is so vague that it says that it's by action or omission.

00:42:27.940 So maybe you ghost someone and they denounce you.

00:42:33.180 You know, they create all this, you know, these laws that are very broad in spectrum.

00:42:40.920 So they can basically throw a net to everyone that might be problematic for their mantras and dogmas.

00:42:52.060 You know, so this bashing reached a fever pitch when two radical feminists murdered a child, a five-year-old, whose name was Lucio Dupuy. 1.00

00:43:06.200 I spoke about him very much.

00:43:10.120 Actually, I pray for him daily.

00:43:13.760 He's always in my thoughts.

00:43:16.120 But I believe, and many of my friends and even my husband believe, that the gruesome torture and murder of Lucio by the hands of these individuals,

00:43:29.720 let's not say more monsters, let's not say more monsters, that kind of opened something up.

00:43:37.160 People were already suspecting that there was a lot of hypocrisy in this movement and it was getting out of hand.

00:43:45.600 There was true hatred against men and any woman who has brothers, boys as children, you know, uncles, fathers, any man in their family, home, friends, you know,

00:44:02.220 they kind of allow this craziness to go on.

00:44:04.840 So basically you have a whole class of boys and young men who've not only been maligned by press constantly,

00:44:14.820 they go to school and there's literal classes that were inserted by leftist politicians that only get like 1% of the votes,

00:44:26.240 but they are in Congress, they get into the Education Commission and they are able to, you know, write policy that then every children has to endure.

00:44:38.100 So they went to school and they were told basically that if you are born male, you are a monster. 0.99

00:44:46.840 You are a potential rapist. 1.00

00:44:49.000 You're a potential murderer. 1.00

00:44:50.900 So at one point, things begin to happen online. 0.97

00:44:57.920 Podcasts begin to emerge, groups, annons, and this starts fermenting because some of us, I completely include myself,

00:45:11.540 we began getting close to the American and the European rights and their talking points.

00:45:19.580 So we begin to see with Brexit in 2015 and with Trump in 2016, that there is an international thing going on that somehow the international left that's always been international,

00:45:39.320 it's their anthem.

00:45:41.660 So it's their anthem.

00:45:43.480 They've always been, you know, connected, but we haven't.

00:45:47.320 And suddenly, for some reason, we start to coalesce and we start to interact and we start to tell each other, hey, look, this is happening.

00:45:56.340 Oh, look at this.

00:45:57.120 This is happening.

00:45:58.320 And people start to, you know, make sense of things.

00:46:02.160 So the online sphere is very coalescent with this young boys, mostly, that start to ask themselves, what's going on?

00:46:15.040 What's going on here?

00:46:16.460 Something's wrong, but it seems that it's worldwide.

00:46:21.200 It's concerted.

00:46:22.260 And I think that this starts, you know, to begin a fertile ground.

00:46:29.000 And Millet emerges from that because he starts talking about economy online and he starts to bring theory to the fore.

00:46:38.240 He literally made kids with Rothbard.

00:46:41.260 I'm not joking.

00:46:43.280 I'm not joking.

00:46:44.220 He is a libertarian, true blue libertarian, in the bane of Ron Paul.

00:46:55.500 Millet is what would have happened if a more bombastic Ron Paul won the election in the U.S.

00:47:03.440 Interesting.

00:47:03.920 Yeah, a lot of people have been worried about the libertarian title because, you know, he's running around with, you know, the ANCAP, you know, comic book suit and things.

00:47:13.500 And, you know, well, that is because that is because Lilia Lemoyne, who is part of one of the founding members of the La Libertad Avanza, his political party, she's a cosplayer.

00:47:26.560 And it was her behind some of these actions that, despite this, this happened years ago.

00:47:35.460 But despite of how funny this seems now, it was actually a way of bringing younger people into it.

00:47:44.420 You know, that was the draw.

00:47:45.780 Well, actually, Lilia, despite the fact that every time she opens her mouth, well, not every time, sometimes she says things that I agree with, but she has a way of getting enmeshed in scandals. 0.99

00:47:59.280 And sometimes she says things that she couldn't say, she shouldn't say, but she is attractive and interesting.

00:48:07.100 And, you know, she's, she was very successful in making the party noticed.

00:48:15.460 And this, you know, is, you know, sometimes things that seem funny are also attractive, you know, and it was positive propaganda at the time.

00:48:27.400 It served its purpose.

00:48:29.220 Nobody would have imagined at the moment when Milet was, you know, cosplaying as Captain Ancap, that he would become actually the president of the country.

00:48:40.880 Right, right.

00:48:41.220 Yeah, you probably didn't see that coming.

00:48:43.020 But there's something that I have spoken about on my TL several times.

00:48:48.540 And I go back to this, like you have the devil, you know, like in the tarot cards, you know, you have the devil, of course. 0.99

00:48:57.520 And you have the fool, you know, the fool sometimes is the joker, but the fool is always, you know, innocence. 0.99

00:49:08.520 You know, this crazy person, this oddball, many of us thought, okay, all the serious people were not able to fix this problem we're enmeshed in and that we've been trying to get out for so many years. 1.00

00:49:22.620 So maybe the madman is the right choice for us. 0.79

00:49:26.660 Because in the land of the mad, who else but the mad hatter himself to lead you out?

00:49:33.220 No, yeah, again, I think that's, again, echoes a lot of how people felt about Trump.

00:49:40.880 You know, is he this practiced politician?

00:49:44.300 Is he this polished guy?

00:49:45.620 Is he going to, you know, bring you all of the finest points of policy from, you know, all these think tanks?

00:49:52.440 No, but that's led you to ruin.

00:49:54.860 So why would you want more of that?

00:49:56.300 Try something different.

00:49:57.140 Yes, absolutely.

00:49:58.780 And he can do things that are weird, like the weirdness of, like, trying to convert to Judaism or the weirdness of talking to his dead dog or, like, many other things, you know.

00:50:13.820 But he's a goofball and people maybe don't understand this, like, that scene from the perspective of Argentina, these are not things that set in stone.

00:50:27.360 Like, he, or, for example, like, I was the other day surprised and, like, he met Clinton. 0.97

00:50:33.640 And I'm like, why the hell are they bringing him to meet Clinton, of all people, you know, who have nothing to do with him?

00:50:41.400 But then it was explained that a businessman named Bertain, who was traveling with him, brokered that meeting.

00:50:50.860 And probably Millet just didn't want to, you know, lose face because Millet actually loves the United States of America, loves them.

00:51:04.160 Like, and in a bit of a boomerish way, I don't know if you understand what I'm meaning by this, like, he's a bit naive to what the U.S. is now.

00:51:16.820 Because he's idealist about you and perhaps has a notion closer to what the U.S. was 20 years ago and not what it is right now at the moment or the internal conflicts.

00:51:33.320 But at the same time, you know, he has people with him.

00:51:37.140 And I'm going to mention again, Victoria Vicharroel, who's the VP, but she will have a big, you know, she's going to have a big say in everything related to security and defense, because that's where her expertise lays. 0.92

00:51:54.740 So she's going to bring much more balance and a more traditionally right wing, you know, side to the government. 1.00

00:52:03.980 So in the last, oh, sorry, we're running up against our time here.

00:52:08.620 So I just wanted to get in the last, in the last few minutes, I just want to get, what are some of the things that you're optimistic about with Millet?

00:52:16.820 Like, what do you think that you expect him to do or that you would hope that he would do changes you think that he'll make that are going to be positive?

00:52:24.220 He already has promised to cut the ministries from 18 back to the traditional eight that existed in my childhood.

00:52:33.380 He's already going to cut most of the bureaucracy.

00:52:37.940 Diana Mondino, the chancellor, said today that it's very likely that over 500 laws that are BS laws will be cut.

00:52:48.840 But the ministry of gender and women is going to be gone.

00:52:54.740 And I'm very happy about that because I'm throwing that one off the board there.

00:52:59.100 Yeah, that was one off the board.

00:53:01.440 And yeah, I do want that.

00:53:03.320 I want the bureaucrats and the people who have been basically leeches to the general population to pay for the party before they leave.

00:53:16.260 And yes, that's basically all, all we want.

00:53:21.860 And I don't want 60% of children suffering.

00:53:27.220 I want all those children eating and the bureaucrats writing about Batman's anuses paying the bill. 1.00

00:53:35.160 Absolutely.

00:53:36.140 I think that's very hard to argue with.

00:53:38.700 Well, we've got a couple of questions from the audience here.

00:53:42.180 Before we pivot over to answer those, can you tell people where they can find you online?

00:53:47.480 Yes.

00:53:47.860 At lady underscore Astor.

00:53:50.340 And of course, in my sub stack, that's ladyastor.substack.com.

00:53:56.400 Excellent.

00:53:57.000 Yes.

00:53:57.180 Like I said, long time fixture in that Twitter sphere.

00:54:00.620 So people should check that out so they can keep tabs on how things are going in Argentina from somebody who knows what's going on.

00:54:08.380 All right.

00:54:09.000 So life of Brian here for 499.

00:54:12.000 Thank you very much.

00:54:12.700 Sure.

00:54:12.880 How many Argentine presidents had to escape in helicopters?

00:54:18.240 Only one de la Rua in 2001.

00:54:22.880 Well, you said you had five in one year, right?

00:54:25.600 No, five in a week.

00:54:27.600 But they did not escape in helicopter.

00:54:29.980 It's because nobody wanted to catch the hot potato.

00:54:32.860 Yeah, it's like the Rome and the year of the four emperors in Rome.

00:54:37.360 But you did it even faster.

00:54:39.800 Yeah.

00:54:41.000 Bolero 393 here for $5.

00:54:43.600 Will Mele make Argentina vote with Israel in the UN?

00:54:48.140 So that the resolution tallies are 188-11 instead of 189-10.

00:54:53.420 Will Argentina invade Iran?

00:54:57.000 I don't know if he's going to switch your entire foreign policy around.

00:55:00.200 I don't know if you have anything to invade Iran with.

00:55:03.660 Mele will probably side with Israel in world affairs because he's a philo-Semite. 0.73

00:55:12.120 And we're certainly not invading Iran because Argentina has no armed forces whatsoever because they were dismantled by the left.

00:55:23.620 Right.

00:55:24.360 All right.

00:55:25.080 And then we have Deuce Boogaloo for $20.

00:55:27.680 Thank you very much, sir.

00:55:28.580 If Javier Mele truly is Argentina's Ron Paul, then the country will flourish at an unprecedented scale.

00:55:35.140 America wouldn't have most of its problems today if the GOP was based enough to choose Ron Paul over McCain and Romney.

00:55:43.360 I bless you, Deuce.

00:55:45.460 I really hope for the same.

00:55:47.340 I pray for the same.

00:55:49.480 And I believe the same.

00:55:51.260 I supported Ron Paul and fell in love with his ideas back in the day.

00:55:55.080 And this is like a dream come true for me.

00:55:57.180 I hope that he truly does what he's promised.

00:56:00.420 Ron Paul and Pat Buchanan, age like fine wine.

00:56:05.840 Yes, absolutely.

00:56:06.980 Loved them both.

00:56:08.820 And that was the sort of inspiration that made me get so involved in American politics because American politics are geopolitical, world-making, king-making politics.

00:56:22.700 You know, it's like that's the game of all games, the true great game.

00:56:28.460 You know, so if you don't pay attention to that, it's like it's imperial politics.

00:56:32.660 Like if you live in Pontus, how can you not look at Rome?

00:56:37.260 I'm always in despair, praying that the emperor allows him to become a part of the Roman society again.

00:56:46.340 Yeah, for better or for worse, we are the global hegemon.

00:56:50.720 Hopefully one day we'll be exporting something that's far more worthy of that.

00:56:55.720 But for now, I'm glad that things have seemed to be turning in a good direction for you guys.

00:57:00.840 I'm glad you're excited about your future.

00:57:03.220 Of course, congratulations on that.

00:57:06.060 And I really hope that things develop, as you say, because obviously it sounds like Argentina definitely could use somebody who can reform what is going on.

00:57:16.220 Yes, we need a break.

00:57:18.300 Yeah, absolutely.

00:57:19.420 Well, thank you again for coming on, everyone.

00:57:21.600 Please make sure that you're checking out Lady Astor's work.

00:57:24.820 And of course, if this is your first time on my channel, make sure that you go ahead and subscribe to the YouTube channel.

00:57:30.340 And if you'd like to get these broadcasts as podcasts, you can go ahead and subscribe to our McIntyre show on your favorite podcast platform.

00:57:37.960 Thank you, everybody, once again for coming by.

00:57:39.860 And as always, I'll talk to you next time.

The Auron MacIntyre Show - November 30, 2023

Will Javier Milei Save Argentina？｜ Guest： Lady Astor ｜ 11⧸30⧸23

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The Auron MacIntyre Show - November 30, 2023

Will Javier Milei Save Argentina？ ｜ Guest： Lady Astor ｜ 11⧸30⧸23

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Will Javier Milei Save Argentina？｜ Guest： Lady Astor ｜ 11⧸30⧸23