You're the Boomer Now | 2⧸12⧸24
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Oren McInnes talks about the Super Bowl and the problem of blaming the Boomers for everything that s going on in the world and how they destroyed America and all of our futures. He also talks about how we need to take some accountability for the problems we find ourselves in.
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I want to talk a little bit about some of the things that came out of the Super Bowl.
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And second, we had kind of the obsession with Taylor Swift.
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And more interestingly, kind of the obsession with politicizing Taylor Swift.
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I also want to talk a little bit about the Boomers.
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Very popular for all of us to blame the Boomers for everything that's going on in the world.
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How they destroyed America and all of our futures.
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And whether or not it's a bit much, I think more importantly, we need to talk about our
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So like I said, I want to talk to you a little bit about the problem of blaming boomers for
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It's, of course, fun to blame this particular generation for a lot of the things that are
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There are some real problems tied to the boomer question that I think do need to be answered.
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That's probably the thing that frustrates people the most from younger generations about the
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boomer generation is the lack of accountability, the way that they hold themselves responsible
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However, I do think it's very easy to overdo it.
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I think that it's very easy to throw everything onto the boomer generation to say all of our
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I hate to break it to people, but when the boomers are gone, all of your problems will
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In fact, as I'm going to point out during this, I think that they're probably going to
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accelerate, which is not to excuse boomers from some of the mistakes they made.
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But again, also, this isn't like a total thing for the whole generation.
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There are a lot of very good baby boomers out there.
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I myself am the child of baby boomers and my parents are excellent people.
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They didn't do any of the things that people tend to kind of attack boomers for.
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They made a focus on sacrificing for, you know, for me and my sibling and whatnot.
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And they understood the importance of passing on their faith in these kind of things.
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This was always something that was first and foremost in their minds.
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And so I'm just somebody who, you know, I maybe got lucky.
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Maybe I'm not the average person when it comes to having parents who are like this in my generation.
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But I do think it's unfair sometimes to kind of blast everybody under this umbrella.
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You know, I'm not going to be that not all guy.
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Obviously, we do have to talk about generalizations if we're going to be able to understand certain phenomena.
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And so I want to get into some things that define boomers, why people get angry at them, why some of that might be justified.
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And most importantly, what we can do to kind of break the cycle.
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Because if we focus, again, I think on just the mistakes of the generations before us, it's very easy to then offload our own responsibility for what comes next.
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And that would be the biggest mistake we could possibly make.
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So first, I want to go ahead and outline the generational split here, because this is the big question for a lot of people.
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For reference, the dates I'm working from here are 46 to 64 would make you a baby boomer.
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And then from 81 to 97 would make you a millennial.
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And a lot of people think of Gen Z as the young people, but that's not actually true.
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And the phrase, the young people, dates me already.
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But a lot of people think of Gen Z as the youngest relevant generation, but that's not true.
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They're already out of college and this kind of thing.
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They're already full adults living their lives.
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The up and coming generations, I guess, are alphas is what they're trying to call them now.
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The point is, I'll be focusing mainly on the boomer X and millennial split.
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That's the one that people look at, though, we'll look at the Zoomers a little bit, too, as we focus on this.
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Because the thing I want a lot of millennials, who are more my age, to remember is, you're the boomer for the Gen Z.
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If you talk to Gen Z or many of these, even younger, kind of the alpha, they are looking at you as the boomer.
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It's a term that has now come to just mean everyone older than me in some sense.
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But there's a relevant point to be made, I think, attached to that.
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So first, the thing you need to understand about the baby boom generation is the power of demography.
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The massive population increase that occurred post-World War II.
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And really importantly, you need to understand the way that they interact with the massification of society.
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And I talk about this in many different places.
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The managerial elite series is probably a good place if you want to understand the idea of the massification of society post-multiple industrial revolutions.
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And the way that bureaucratic organizations have scaled up our social kind of structure.
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That's critical to understand how these generations interact.
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Because the baby boom comes basically right after the United States conquers the world.
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A lot of people don't look at World War II that way, but it kind of is.
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And a lot of people will say, well, we conquered it to defeat bad people.
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And we clearly did defeat bad people during World War II.
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But to be clear, we more or less took over the world at that point.
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The United States took over the role of the British Empire, which had already been kind of the global hegemon prior to that.
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The British Empire was waning in its will to govern its own empire.
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And also, it was devastated by its battle with the Axis powers.
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And really, the United States ends up taking over many of these kind of critical island bases and ports and things around the world.
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We take over custody of many of these critical pieces of infrastructure that secure global trade.
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I mean, global trade has been important ever as long as it's existed.
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You know, the explosion of the spice trade and whatnot.
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And everything that comes with the age of exploration.
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But really, with the key of mass production, mass consumption, and the ability to transport these goods en masse on a regular basis.
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This becomes really critical to the global economy.
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The fact that there is truly, for the first time, an integrated global economy in the way that there hadn't been.
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Communications also makes this critically possible in ways that just did not exist prior.
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But if it's just carrying a letter, then that's not usually often useful.
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The fact that we could constantly be in contact with each other through, you know, underwater lines.
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And then eventually, satellites and everything else.
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This becomes a really critical part of the way that kind of the global infrastructure works.
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And so the fact that the greatest generation is linked to this massification of society and this American empire all kind of emerging simultaneously is really important.
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Because in many ways, the baby boomers always had an advantage over other generations just due to their vast size and the way that transformation occurred when they were young.
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In many ways, the empire that now exists, all these institutions, all these social organizations, the things that the government does, they all exist more or less for the benefit of baby boomers.
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And the baby boomers were the driving force between many things that are economic and culturally relevant throughout their entire lives.
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Things did not shift between generations the way they usually did because the baby boomers commanded so much economic and demographic power due to their size that you never really had that transfer of power naturally.
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Whether or not the baby boomers also made decisions that made sure that that power wouldn't be transferred, and we'll talk about how they did in a second.
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The key is that a lot of this stuff was built for them as the baby boomers, and things that existed for young baby boomers then followed them up.
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And then the next thing, and the next thing, more and more stuff was created always specifically for the baby boom generation.
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It didn't move to a young adult thing, and it just followed them throughout their life cycles.
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And so the story of the United States and its empire, in many ways, is the story of the baby boom generation.
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And while they often get the rap for being self-centered and the idea that they drove everything and created everything that was America and they contributed everything that exists,
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in ways it's easy to understand how they feel that way because the culture was almost always made for them.
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When the baby boomers wanted to rebel, that was the key in the 60s.
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And when the baby boomers wanted to settle down and get serious and have families and have material abundance in the suburbs, that was the 80s.
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You can kind of see how in each one of these generational shifts and attitude in popular culture, that baby boom demographic was driving kind of a large part of it.
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And so it's very easy to understand what happened.
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Because, again, probably the number one criticism of the boomer generation is that they had this idea that they did not need to do what previous generations had done.
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They could keep all the kind of opportunity for themselves.
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And the other generations would simply get theirs.
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And, again, it's easy to understand where that mentality comes from when you look at the way that things developed for the boomers.
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Again, opportunities followed them because they were setting the pace for the expansion of the United States Empire, for the development of the culture, for the development of the economic system.
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College became critical when they went to college.
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These things are always in the rhythm of the baby boomers.
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And so it's understandable why they would think that this opportunity always would exist.
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And they legitimately felt like they had worked hard for it.
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But, right, so if you're someone who's a baby boomer and you look at your parents who are part of, you know, the greatest generation or, you know, something like that, and you look at them and you say, okay, well, they were poor because many of them were poor.
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Many of them are coming out of a depression, obviously, when the baby boomers are born by definition.
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And so they look at their parents, who many of them were stuck in very low socioeconomic situations, and they say, well, I worked hard and I did better than them.
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And they did do better than them financially because, you know, obviously a lot of these people were stuck in depression.
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They also attained education, which is its own issue.
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We could kind of spend an entire episode or a couple breaking down the way that college was integrated into this.
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In fact, I do that in a chapter of my book, The Total State, if you want to preorder that.
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But you can understand how they could look at their journey through life and say, well, I improved.
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And they didn't understand that this was not always the same, that this was a very particular fruit of generational investment and also being born in the right time, a time in which America was exploding an opportunity in a way that maybe had not existed before.
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And the fact that we mortgaged that opportunity into the future would have effects on the subsequent generations.
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That's also something that boomers often don't realize, something that they're often chided for not understanding.
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They kind of thought that there are no systemic problems because there's always going to be a certain amount of institutional advantage for us.
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Like, Americans are always going to have this abundance.
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They can all kind of pull themselves up by their bootstraps just like we did because our parents were poor and we went through this kind of ritual and a cycle of growth.
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And then we, you know, went crazy during the 60s and then we settled down and had families and, you know, that everything got better for us.
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There's also this simultaneous convergence with that boomer narrative of, you know, the opportunity is always there for you.
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It was also the fact that there, many of the things that we now think of as kind of important to passing that stuff on,
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passing on that to your posterity, those opportunities, was kind of chided by the wider culture
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because that was considered nepotism or it was ingraining these different disparate impacts,
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these different, the gulf, the word I'm searching for here is eluding me,
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the different outcomes that were occurring between different groups.
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The fact that you would go ahead and pass on your advantages was seen as you passing on some kind of systemic bias for your children,
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a group that you were a part of, rather than allowing everyone to kind of have the same level of equality.
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And so people were encouraged to kind of throw off this idea.
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Well, what if we just kept it all for ourselves and we made our kids earn it because we had to earn it?
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When actually like the key to generational wealth is the nepotism.
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Like nepotism is only bad in the sense where you're consistently choosing people who are very bad at what they do.
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In general, it's something that helps people grow.
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And so that's something that we used to just call being a good parent, right?
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Like there is something to be said for handing too many advantages to a kid
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and having them expect to have everything handed to them.
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However, there's also a difference between that and just saying,
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oh, well, I'm just going to go on another vacation.
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I'm going to have another cruise because I don't want to create the disparity.
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That was the word I was so desperately searching for.
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I don't want to exacerbate the disparities between my children or my group and another group.
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And so therefore, it's really important for me to go ahead and basically just consume everything
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or keep it for myself and not pass those things down.
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And so you have to understand that while you might look at this as someone who didn't get
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the benefit of that and think, oh, it's absurd.
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These are things that were deeply ingrained in the mindset of a lot of baby boomers.
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And so they really did have this mentality of, well, look, I went to college and you can go to college
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and I bought a house young and you can buy a house young.
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And I eventually ended my wild, crazy days and got married and everything was fine.
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It'll be all that will be there for you, not realizing how much society mortgaged the
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future to make sure that those things existed for them in many ways.
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You know, the fact that they don't realize that, you know, college has exploded in price.
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The cost of having children has exploded in price.
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It is well outpaced the rest of inflation, those kind of things, and made those things very
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difficult to obtain, those things are often denied.
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And then I think that's, again, where a lot of kind of the animus comes from.
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So I want to talk a little bit more about the transition of power, because the next thing
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I think a lot of people have as a criticism of the boomer generation is their unwillingness
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I think you can tell that by the fact that we have two guys who are, you know, 80-ish
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A lot of people bring this as a big criticism of the boomers.
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So like I said, another big criticism of the boomers that we see is the fact that they
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are unwilling to transfer power, political power in particular.
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I think this one is actually probably the most legitimate of the criticisms that we see here.
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Again, we look at guys like Donald Trump and Joe Biden.
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I mean, Joe Biden literally just was assessed as too much of an invalid.
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He's too mentally compromised to stand trial for the crimes he has committed, which is kind
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The fact that either of our presidents in any other time would have been considered outrageously
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old, just incapable of figuring out where they are.
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Donald Trump is more mentally there than Joe Biden.
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It's very clear that I think while Trump might have lost a step or two from his last
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presidency, he's still much sharper than Biden is.
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He could probably do the job as well as he did last time, whatever you may think that
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However, it's very clear that we have people who are holding on.
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We see so many of these congressmen serve their entire lives.
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They're in the Congress or the Senate for 30 years and they die in office at like 89 or
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Same with the Supreme Court justices just holding on forever.
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Obviously, it's a lifetime appointment, but you can step down.
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These people are holding on to power desperately.
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And in some ways, that's because they just can't understand what it would be to have younger
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And it's time to transition over to another generation.
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And this is where a lot of the Gen X mentality is.
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So I am just over the line into being a millennial.
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I feel much closer to someone who, say, was born in 1979 than someone who was born in 1996.
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And I imagine that's true of all people who are close to the bumper of any given generation.
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I'm closer to Gen X than I am to most other millennials.
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However, you can see the way that this was reflected in most Gen Xers.
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They usually have a kind of an abandonment themselves as responsibility, not because they
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probably wouldn't have picked up responsibility when they were younger, if they could have.
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But it was very clear that their parents were never going to pass on the family business,
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that the politicians were never going to get out of office, that the guy in the C-suite
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was never going to pass things on to the next guy, you know, to train up the protege.
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They thought of everyone below them as just churning constantly while they stood at the
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wheel and made sure that the ship never ran aground.
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And that's very frustrating for a lot of Gen Xers who felt like they were robbed, and they're
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probably right to believe this, of their natural opportunities to take power.
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Sorry, but you shouldn't have to wait until everyone is 85 and dying of, you know, random
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diseases of old age before you can go ahead and exercise some degree of leadership.
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And unfortunately, many of the boomers, because they were very interested in extending not only
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their power, but their material advantage as long as possible, didn't really care that
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Most of them probably got some level of family and housing, but a lot of millennials found themselves
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And obviously, the Zoomers are really in this scenario where, you know, many of them don't
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And they think they don't want it because, you know, it's all really bad or, you know,
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it was, it's all too much of a burden to them or, you know, oh, I'm not like that.
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But really, I think a lot of them don't want it only because they've, it's very clear they're
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Very clear that they're never going to have the, you know, the big job.
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They're never going to have the family and they're never going to have the house.
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And it's just easier to tell yourself, oh, well, it's because I chose not to have it.
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I'm really being free to this stuff than it is to say, oh, well, actually,
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I missed out of this because my family robbed me of this, because my community robbed me
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of this, because the ethos that would have encouraged this generational passing of the
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And ultimately, I think that that's the biggest problem with our, that's the biggest generational
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You know, in a healthy society, there is no generational interest because you understand
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that you exist as part of the whole and that you exist to pass this down to the next set of
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And it's not about you just accumulating the most toys or the most power, the most money or getting
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the most hedonistic experiences that you can have before you die.
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But instead, you understand that one of the key parts of life, in fact, the key part of life is
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connecting yourself to that great chain of being to sit amongst your ancestors, as Cicero would have
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said, and to connect yourself to that history and that that is where purpose and meaning are found
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is to weave yourself into the tapestry of the history of your society.
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And so living for just yourself and your aggrandizement, that's something that only comes
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when a society has lost the idea of their posterity, the idea that they have anything
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to pass this to. I'll be honest, I think a big part of this is the idea that America is just
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everybody, that anybody can come and be an American and that America is just an idea and
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you can spread America everywhere. You can just spread America and democracy and freedom and
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liberty. And you just need to sell people blue jeans and Coca-Cola and McDonald's. And now they're
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just as American as you are. And, you know, that that's all there is. You know, if someone walks in
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to the United States and legally and, you know, they raise their hand and they say, I want to be
00:28:36.160
one of you guys, then that's all there is to it. And they should just be an American now. And there
00:28:40.180
should be no other understanding of what America is. That breaks all continuity of civilization that
00:28:46.500
breaks all ideas about what it means to pass things from one generation to another. And if you're
00:28:52.280
trained in an ideology as a baby boomer or a Gen X or a millennial, that you're no more American and
00:28:59.020
your children are no more American than anyone else. Well, then why would you sacrifice? Right?
00:29:04.780
Why would you, why would you put forward anything in the interest of these people? You really have
00:29:09.860
to have a certain level of investment in the game. And if you don't have that level of investment,
00:29:14.640
if you don't understand why, you know, you're, you're going to be passing these things on and who
00:29:20.080
you're going to pass them on to, then you're just going to have these divides. I, you know,
00:29:24.720
these are the generational divides are luxury beliefs in the same way that the war between men
00:29:30.420
and women in our culture is a luxury belief. It's things that people who are way too affluent
00:29:36.840
and have expanded their culture way too widely and haven't had to have any real existential crisis in
00:29:42.300
a very long time. It's things that they believe because anybody who's a close knit society, anybody
00:29:48.480
who has a society that is in danger on a consistent basis, doesn't need to be reminded about what it
00:29:54.340
means to come together and protect each other and pass things down, pass down their values,
00:29:59.560
pass down their traditions, pass down their identities, pass down their moral visions.
00:30:03.240
You don't need to get people together and remind them of that when they're constantly under threat.
00:30:08.380
It's something that only becomes an issue when your society scales too far, when it becomes too
00:30:14.740
wealthy, when it becomes, when it doesn't know what it's like to struggle against an outside enemy.
00:30:21.580
And I think that's really the core of the problem. I don't think that baby boomers are themselves a
00:30:28.460
problem or Gen X is a problem or millennials is a problem unto themselves. I think what we have is a
00:30:33.580
kind of broken understanding of generational connection, connection and culture that, that keeps
00:30:40.500
us from being able to pass these things down one to another. And so the thing I want to warn you
00:30:46.580
about the reason that the name of this stream is you're the boomer now is I want to warn some of
00:30:52.500
my millennial coho reports. Again, I'm an older millennial, so this may be less true for a number
00:30:57.440
of you who are millennials. You may be much younger than me while still technically being part of my
00:31:01.760
generation, but we are now the age that many boomers were when they started making the decisions
00:31:09.200
that we hate now, right? A lot of the decisions on how society would be structured, how entitlements
00:31:15.960
would be structured, how tax systems and financial systems would be structured, you know, how we would
00:31:22.240
have families, how families would be structured, how inheritance would be passed down, how culture
00:31:28.340
would be transmitted. A lot of the things that we hate about kind of what happened to society
00:31:34.880
occurred around the time or started around the time that boomers were in our position.
00:31:40.740
And so we need to be very careful because if we sit around, it's easy to sit around and just blame
00:31:47.100
prior generations, right? Say, oh, well, it's because, you know, my parents didn't hand this to me.
00:31:53.220
They didn't give this thing to me. They didn't love me in this way, you know, but again, this is the
00:31:58.400
classic boomer mentality in some ways, right? Well, my, my, my dad from the forties didn't hug me enough.
00:32:04.880
And that's why I was emotionally maladjusted as a kid in the sixties. And that's why I lived my
00:32:11.020
seventies acting sixties and seventies acting out and had to wait till my eighties before I actually
00:32:15.800
started to, uh, kind of get it together and have family and build the things that I wanted. And then
00:32:21.860
I didn't feel like I needed to transfer any of that. Cause I had to build it. My dad, I didn't feel
00:32:25.980
like he gave it to me. Like if we get stuck in that cycle of blaming the previous generation,
00:32:30.720
then no one ever escapes, right? If we adopt that mentality of being the final generation,
00:32:38.900
oh, well, it's, it's all going to end with me. America is me or the, you know, the future was
00:32:45.520
me. And the, now I'm, when I'm gone, that none of it matters. And so I'm just going to get mine
00:32:51.120
because the, the, the generations before me betrayed me. If we adopt that mentality,
00:32:56.900
then we're only going to continue this degradation. Now, obviously that doesn't steal any of the truth
00:33:04.960
out of criticisms that are leveled at many in the boomer generation or Gen X or millennials.
00:33:11.840
But again, if you talk to a Gen Z kid or you, or even, you know, a few of the old, you know,
00:33:17.140
the oldest, uh, alpha generation kids, they look at you the same way because they say,
00:33:23.060
you don't understand how good you have it. And that sounds insane. And this, so this is what
00:33:26.900
happens when you're on the backend of kind of the, the apex of an empire. So the boomers existed when
00:33:35.140
you, when the United States conquered the world and created unimaginable material wealth and created
00:33:41.340
insane things like, you know, super long life expectancy and, and, you know, vacation homes and
00:33:49.060
a million vacations and, and, and taking all the cruises and everything like all these things that
00:33:54.560
did not exist before any generation, they had the most opulent wealth. And yes, they, they expected
00:34:01.260
that. And much of the kind of venom that is directed towards the boomers is because they, they thought
00:34:07.460
that was just the normal and they were fine to burn and kind of every piece of social fabric to make
00:34:12.640
that happen. However, let's be really honest. This is painful for a lot of people, but we'll be really
00:34:17.420
honest for a second for the Gen Xers and the millennials out there. Most of our anger towards
00:34:23.100
the baby boomer generation is not really that they did that. It's that we don't get to do it.
00:34:29.680
Right. That that's the real problem for a lot of us is we don't get to live that life. We don't get
00:34:36.320
to have the insane abundance. We don't get to live with the reckless excess and then, you know, pull all
00:34:42.540
together and still have, you know, great family and still be able to afford just everything we ever
00:34:47.900
wanted and retire and live, you know, till, till we're 107 with, you know, with a constant attendant
00:34:54.920
care, like a lot of the directed anger is jealousy and understandable, right? You watch these people who
00:35:04.060
were born on second base in many cases, feeling like they hit a home run. Uh, and you say, wow, I wish I
00:35:10.600
would just be able to get a single, you know, and it's very difficult for a lot of people to watch
00:35:15.820
that. However, that's not going to change anything. It's not going to get any better. We're not going
00:35:22.960
to live the same lives they did because the lives they lived were unsustainable. And that's really
00:35:29.040
difficult. It's very difficult to be on the backside of an empire, an empire in some level of decline.
00:35:35.940
Maybe America pulls out of it. I'm a little doubtful, but let's hope, right? I'm still,
00:35:40.740
I would like to see that happen. Even if my predictive, you know, powers are, or my, rather
00:35:46.620
my, the, my, in the interest of being an accurate predictor, I don't think that's going to happen.
00:35:51.440
Uh, I still would like to see it happen. That would still be the best possible outcome, but I just don't
00:35:56.380
think that's going to happen. However, we're probably not going to live that lifestyle, right? Because it
00:36:02.360
was just unsustainable and, and kind of the boomer generation had to do a lot of rearranging and
00:36:08.280
stealing from the future to make it even accessible to them at the time it happened. And now we're
00:36:12.820
going to pay the piper and it sucks to be the people who pay the piper that that's never where anybody
00:36:17.600
wants to be. But if we don't do it now, if we don't figure this stuff out now, then it will be just
00:36:24.840
another cycle, another generation of people who look at us, who, you know, watch us live lives of what
00:36:31.400
they see as excess. You know, they, they look at us and say, Oh, well, look at you. You, you had some
00:36:36.720
semblance of family. We don't even know what that looks like anymore. Oh, you had some semblance of
00:36:40.640
a shared culture. We don't even know what that looks like anymore. You had some hope of owning a
00:36:45.280
home or some hope of having your own business or, you know, having a nice promotion. We don't even
00:36:51.000
know what that looks like anymore. They're going to look at us and say, Oh, you know, these, these people
00:36:55.780
were spoiled rotten and they didn't even know it. And all they did was blame it on their, on their
00:36:59.720
parents. So we need to avoid being the boomers. And the way to do that is to build. We have to
00:37:06.020
invest in our families. We have to invest in our churches. We have to invest in our communities.
00:37:11.300
And there's going to be a lot of people to say, there's nothing to save. It's all gone. It's all,
00:37:15.580
you know, it's all done. It's a waste of time. You know, you can't do it. Throw those people behind
00:37:20.800
you, you know, ignore them because they'll never solve anything. Okay. If your plan is to go out and get
00:37:27.360
yours and live your life only for your benefit and not care about others, because that's what
00:37:33.280
your parents did, or you think that's the only game in town and there's no reason investing with
00:37:37.760
those people. Fine. I mean, there's nothing I'm going to do to talk you out of that if that's
00:37:42.080
really, truly your mindset. But I think for most people, that's not actually what they want. They
00:37:46.320
were just told that was the only option available. And so if we're going to change things, we have to
00:37:51.780
look because we're in that position. Now you're the boomer now, and you've got to make the decision.
00:37:56.840
Am I going to make the same mistakes that were made by this generation? Am I going to sit around
00:38:02.740
blaming them for everything that goes wrong? Even if it's legitimate, even if the points are true,
00:38:07.860
even if it would sure be nice, if there was a certain level of ownership and admission,
00:38:12.880
that things aren't the way that they see it, that maybe the idea that, that everybody is just going to
00:38:18.300
be able to pull themselves up from their bootstraps, just like they did because they, you know,
00:38:22.540
they didn't have any special opportunity, but we're just really hard workers. Yeah. It would
00:38:26.960
be nice if there was an admission of the truth of that. I understand that. I understand that
00:38:31.080
frustration, but if we sit here and we blame them for forever on that, then we're the problem
00:38:37.200
because at some point we have to be the generation that takes ownership, that takes investment and
00:38:43.400
creates the future for people to benefit from. There was a lot of borrowing against our futures.
00:38:50.080
And that's super frustrating, but if we don't make investments into the futures of the next
00:38:56.620
generation, it'll be done. The, you know, the, the quote from GK Chesterton was, you know,
00:39:02.420
Rome wasn't, uh, men didn't love Rome because it was great. Uh, Rome was great because men loved her.
00:39:09.460
And the question is, are we going to be the people who love our communities, our country, our families,
00:39:16.000
our churches, our traditions enough to make them great. There is a way to make them great again,
00:39:21.260
but they've been making them great again around a lot or rather demands that we take ownership.
00:39:26.600
And that while there are real and true grievances with previous generations, all we can do at this
00:39:33.440
point is learn from them because those mistakes are already made and they won't be here. Let's,
00:39:39.020
let's be honest. You know, the baby boomers will be gone and not, not too distant future.
00:39:44.280
And we will have to leave. We will have to pick up that mantle. Gen X has been waiting a long time.
00:39:49.920
Will they pick it up? Will it fall to millennials instead? Answers probably both, but we have to be
00:39:55.240
ready. And that means making those investments now, because if we sit in the positions that the
00:40:00.880
boomer sat in and we make the same choices that they did, we'll get exactly the same outcome.
00:40:06.080
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All right, guys. So I wanted to touch on the Super Bowl real quick. Nothing too big here. I find it a
00:41:46.240
little exhausting to go into these things too long, but I think there are two things worth
00:41:49.860
talking about very quickly. First, this is just a general statement. I know it's really popular to
00:41:57.040
scream about sports ball and, you know, people, I'm too good. I don't care. It doesn't matter to
00:42:01.860
me. That's fine. You don't have to like this stuff if you genuinely don't like it. I get that. I came
00:42:07.820
from a sports household and I did play some sports, though not that much. I really got more into
00:42:12.780
things like jujitsu and judo later on, but I didn't play a lot of team sports, but I played some.
00:42:19.280
I always followed them, though, because it was something my dad was very into. And, you know,
00:42:23.440
I just want to say real quick, it's okay that there's always going to be something like this.
00:42:28.180
Again, it's better that you spend your time working on your family. It's better that you
00:42:32.260
spend your time on your community. If you're spending all of your time watching NFL games,
00:42:37.020
that's a problem. If you spend a large amount of your time playing fantasy football and obsessing
00:42:42.560
about this stuff, all you listen to is sports radio. All you do is follow this stuff. Okay. Yeah,
00:42:46.700
that is a real issue and that it's worthy to tell people that that should not be how they spend
00:42:51.540
their time. However, there's always some level of this. There's always a Colosseum in Rome. There's
00:42:57.420
always the Hippodrome for the Byzantines and the chariot races. There's always going to be some
00:43:04.040
kind of collective thing that happens once you get to a certain level of civilization. Again,
00:43:09.960
maybe that's just decadence. You could say that it's always engaging in the decadence of the empire.
00:43:15.320
Fair enough, I guess. But I just say, I'm just going to say there's a value to, if you don't want
00:43:21.680
to watch it, don't, but there is a, there is an exhaustive element where it's just like
00:43:26.540
constantly counter signaling this. It's just kind of, it's again, it doesn't help you. It just kind
00:43:32.860
of gives people an aversion to the cultural message that you're trying to talk about.
00:43:37.280
So two things during the Superbowl. Uh, first it was, it was entertaining. Superbowl is actually a
00:43:42.040
really good game. If you like football, uh, I haven't watched football actually in quite a few
00:43:46.120
years. I just had a lot else going on. I used to watch, you know, uh, Tampa Bay Buccaneers. That
00:43:50.920
was my team. Uh, I used to watch most of their games throughout the season. I didn't really watch
00:43:54.660
any other games. Uh, this year I kind of finally got back and watched a handful of games, uh, throughout
00:43:59.760
the season, but I usually watched the Superbowl at the end either way, just again, because it's kind
00:44:04.240
of a wide scale cultural event either way. And, uh, this year they played the black national anthem.
00:44:10.180
A lot of people yelling about the black national anthem. Uh, rightly so. This is stupid. Uh, this
00:44:15.480
shouldn't exist. Obviously, if you're a nation with two anthems, then you're not a nation. You're
00:44:21.260
the whole point of the anthem is to unite your people. If you've carved out a special, uh, special
00:44:26.260
and specific national anthem for another group of people, then it's very clear you're not a unified
00:44:31.360
people anymore. The question of course, is, is this more of a Latinx thing? I mean, if you talk to any
00:44:37.300
actual, uh, Hispanic people, they don't like Latinx pretty much no one without a master's degree in
00:44:43.880
some kind of gender studies cares about the label Latinx, but they keep trying to foist this on
00:44:48.900
people. Is that the same thing with black national anthem? Do most black people not like the black
00:44:53.920
national anthem? Would they decry it for the most part? Or is this different? Is this something that
00:44:58.540
people generally see, uh, that, that will, um, they, they think will ameliorate some kind of
00:45:03.620
issue. It's making up for some kind of exclusion in a sport that is at this point, vastly dominated
00:45:09.780
by, by black athletes. It seems like a very strange idea. Uh, the point is of course that
00:45:15.700
this only exists to create the separation and it's only going to continue to exist because that's who
00:45:21.380
the NFL is catering to. The NFL is completely woke. Uh, again, I understand if you just don't
00:45:26.220
want to support that, that was a large reason I stopped watching football in the first place.
00:45:29.500
I was just tired of watching people kneel during my national anthem. I don't want to see people
00:45:33.400
involved in that. Um, and it's still something that makes me not want to get super invested.
00:45:37.940
I'll still watch, like I said, games from time to time. I'll watch the super bowl, but it is something
00:45:42.040
that rubs me the wrong way. And when you lead off with something like that, you're just going to keep
00:45:45.740
driving people like me away. Maybe the good thing is that that ends up driving everyone away.
00:45:50.000
Right. And this just becomes less significant. That would be nice. Uh, you know, if that,
00:45:53.800
if that really is what, what happens, uh, and people focus on something of more substance,
00:45:58.160
but I kind of doubt it, uh, either way that that's not going away. I think anytime soon,
00:46:03.240
the second thing, the, a lot of people were talking about was Taylor Swift. Obviously Taylor
00:46:09.180
Swift is dating, uh, one of the biggest players, uh, on the, uh, on the, uh, Kansas city chiefs also
00:46:17.020
kind of fun that the chiefs keep winning. Uh, and the only reason they still have their name is that
00:46:21.940
the owner told the NFL to go pound sand when they tried to threaten him to change it. Cause they
00:46:26.040
were, Oh, it's racist or whatever. And he just didn't. So that's kind of fun or, uh, kind of
00:46:30.560
fun, but, uh, Taylor Swift is dating Travis Kelsey and be honest at this point, I probably just going
00:46:35.660
to mute Taylor Swift off of my Twitter timeline entirely. Cause I just don't care. I'm so tired
00:46:41.660
of hearing about this. Uh, she, she makes some good pop music. She's very popular for a reason,
00:46:46.940
but I don't care about her, uh, in any kind of other sense. I, you know, don't, don't really want to
00:46:52.320
know anything about her personal life or what is going on, but you can't avoid it at this point.
00:46:56.220
It's everywhere. And one of the things that's really happened, and this is probably primarily
00:47:00.000
a Twitter phenomenon. I know that I'm talking about something that is very online at the moment.
00:47:04.360
So bear with me for a second, but there was this desperate attempt to kind of politicize
00:47:08.960
Taylor Swift. And a lot of people on the left say it's the right. A lot of people on the right
00:47:13.540
say it's the left. Uh, I think it's very clear that the left is trying to do that. I mean,
00:47:18.040
Taylor Swift has political opinions. She's expressed some of them, but she has the same
00:47:22.360
level of political opinion that pretty much every famous person does. Right. Which is just like,
00:47:27.620
okay, who cares? Just move on. Uh, so she's politicized herself at some level. I'm not saying
00:47:32.280
that she hasn't, but that doesn't mean you have to focus on it. And I want conservatives to understand
00:47:36.760
this is a losing issue for them. Like looking at two good looking and famous people and saying,
00:47:42.320
uh, we, you know, we're against this. Uh, that's not helping you out. Uh, not that that doesn't
00:47:48.280
mean you can't criticize people like this, but the, the attempt to kind of culturally identify
00:47:52.980
this as the left wing isn't helping you out here. Uh, the, the left is obviously looking to use Taylor
00:47:59.260
Swift as some kind of political wedge and the right is correct to identify this. But really what we have
00:48:04.380
is a phenomenon of the total state, the total state. The whole point of the total state is that
00:48:08.920
everything comes, becomes political. Every aspect of life becomes political. You know,
00:48:13.900
we've told the, the, the story about, uh, the, the German cat with Curtis Yarvin story of the
00:48:19.260
German cat, right? Where you're reading the cat magazine in, in the 1930s. And at first it's just
00:48:24.540
about a normal cats. And then all of a sudden it's about the German cat. And then all of a sudden,
00:48:28.480
every article is only about superiority of character of the German cat and that kind of thing.
00:48:33.820
And this is, this is how, you know, you're in total state when every single aspect of life
00:48:38.580
has to be about the political. And the truth is we shouldn't be in a system where anyone cares
00:48:44.420
about Taylor Swift's political opinion or what, what some football player thinks about black lives
00:48:49.860
matter or anything. But the fact is that every single person feels compelled constantly to share
00:48:56.300
their opinion. You really shouldn't be surprised when popular famous people have popular political
00:49:02.260
opinions, acceptable political opinions. It's exactly what you should expect. In fact, and you can get
00:49:07.520
angry at those people and you can criticize those people and you'll be right to do so because
00:49:11.140
they're stupid, but that doesn't really help you with the problem. The problem is that that famous
00:49:15.700
people have safe political opinions. Like, of course they do. And if you think they didn't,
00:49:19.720
you just need to look at where power is pointing. All the people who you think were rebellious in the
00:49:24.520
sixties or seventies or whatever, with their outrageous political opinions, they were always an only ever
00:49:29.580
pointing to the emergent powers inside the U S they were, they felt safe with those opinions
00:49:35.680
because those opinions were already confirming what would become the new consensus in the United
00:49:40.640
States. It's not that the famous people used to have radical opinions and now they're all group
00:49:45.860
thinkers. They were always all group thinkers and they were just the tip of the sphere of subversion
00:49:50.780
back then. And now they're the people slamming the door at the end of the transformation process.
00:49:56.760
That's the only thing that's happened is the position of the celebrities and the role they play in the
00:50:01.100
process, not the process themselves itself. Okay. And so, yeah, you're sorry, but you're, you know,
00:50:06.580
pop singers and your football stars, they were never independent thinkers and they were never
00:50:11.520
really voicing their own deep thoughts on the, on the events of the day and screaming about them.
00:50:17.560
You know, that's fine. Shut up and sing. Right. But what has that done for us really at the end of
00:50:22.020
the day? How has that actually changed anything? If anything, these people are already grading enough
00:50:27.080
themselves. The more that celebrities go on and on about this garbage, the less cool they become,
00:50:32.280
the less interesting they become, the more they become, uh, you know, the, the afterschool special
00:50:36.860
1980s version of celebrity rather than anything that actually wants to set trends. And so I guess
00:50:43.660
what I'm saying is you can be angry at Taylor Swift if you want, or you can talk about, you know,
00:50:48.900
the politicization of either side if you want, and that's fine. But what I'm wanting to say is really
00:50:53.440
that this is just a function of the total state. The truth is that as long as democracy is the
00:50:58.800
driving force of political legitimization inside the United States, this will be what, this is what's
00:51:05.020
going to happen because let's be honest, people care more about what Taylor Swift thinks about
00:51:10.360
politics than the fact that Joe Biden is too senile to actually run the country. Taylor Swift tells them
00:51:16.220
to care about Joe Biden and vote for Joe Biden. They won't care whether he is brain dead. They'll just do it
00:51:22.980
because she said so. Right. And you could say that's a problem with Taylor Swift. And yeah,
00:51:27.920
at some individual level it is, but what it really is, is a problem with our whole system.
00:51:32.500
It's an indictment of our whole system. And you're not going to get individual starlets or pop singers
00:51:36.860
or football players to change the fact that they're just going to acquiesce to power. That's just not
00:51:41.760
going to happen. So what you really want to change is the system or what's cool, right? If we,
00:51:49.040
if we, if we're going to need, you know, pop popularity, you need to, you need to change.
00:51:53.660
You need to shift the idea of what is actually avant-garde. And that happens when these people
00:51:59.220
do what they're doing now, which is really pushing this ugly and brittle version of cultural
00:52:03.860
manipulation and homogenization on the entire population that will eventually happen. They'll
00:52:10.220
eventually break. It won't be pretty on the way there, but it will eventually happen. And people will
00:52:14.980
look for ascendant ideas. I think that's why there are a number of voices that are trending up that,
00:52:21.220
that have alternative ideas. And I think that you'll continue to see that, but it's only going
00:52:25.580
to be on the outside edges for a long time. And that should be expected because that's kind of
00:52:29.120
how Vanguard movements work. In the meantime, just try not to have your head explode over the fact that
00:52:35.140
a random pop star or random football player has pretty safe opinions on politics. It's pretty much
00:52:41.340
exactly what you should expect. All right, guys, let's go ahead and transition over to the questions
00:52:46.840
of the people here. We've got quite a bit of them today. Uh, Michael Robertson says, uh, victory will
00:52:52.280
be achieved when the gamer national anthem echoes throughout the Superbowl and across this great
00:52:57.260
nation. Uh, yeah. What would that be like the, the halo, uh, you know, chance? Yeah. As soon as once,
00:53:02.620
or maybe Creed, maybe I'm pushing, I think we need to meme Creed back guys. I think we need to return.
00:53:08.280
I think many of us can agree that they have the greatest Superbowl performance of all time. Uh,
00:53:13.080
perhaps once Creed once again plays, uh, the, the Superbowl halftime show or the national anthem,
00:53:18.920
we will once again be a truly great nation. That's a vision I can see of the future.
00:53:24.020
Cooper Weir says, but Orrin, I'm not a boomer. I've taken the red pill. I'm one of the kids who
00:53:28.320
read. I can blame them forever for my problems. My life is way harder. Yeah. Good reference by the
00:53:33.940
way to Dave, the distributors is Dave, the distributors, uh, latest stream on the kit,
00:53:39.760
the kid who read a very good, uh, stream by him explaining kind of the idea of this counterculture
00:53:45.300
movement. Uh, it is important as you point out, Cooper weirdo to, at some point, uh, take ownership
00:53:50.900
over, uh, kind of who we are and where we're going. Um, and that doesn't mean we're wrong to
00:53:56.160
criticize the system. It doesn't mean we should stop criticizing the system and trying to get people
00:54:00.920
to hold themselves accountable, but you know, you can sit there until you're red in the face
00:54:04.500
and change nothing. So probably best to also think about how you can make the world a better place,
00:54:10.900
or more importantly, forget the world, your community, uh, something far more local and far
00:54:15.180
more important and far more likely for you to change. Uh, Trevor 50 Daniel says, you think you
00:54:20.240
hate the boomers enough, but you don't. It's a mindset that encompasses the generations of current
00:54:24.080
world for your own game, uh, gen X, millennial, whatever you're a boomer. If you don't care,
00:54:28.620
fair enough. Again, if you want to exchange, if you want to expand that definition to really just
00:54:33.060
be a mindset, you can do that. And you'll be right that that exists, uh, on many levels.
00:54:37.400
I would say, honestly, that just means that pretty much everyone is a boomer. Like everyone is a
00:54:42.000
spiritual boomer. Almost no one cares. Like if you look at gen X and you look at millennials,
00:54:47.120
almost none of them care. And again, some of them have every reason not to every, you know,
00:54:51.740
they have every reason to be spurned. They have every reason to feel like they were cheated. They have
00:54:55.680
every reason to say to themselves, well, I, I didn't get mine and I'm never going to get mine.
00:55:00.420
And I, everything that I had was mortgaged and stolen. Uh, and so I just can't get there. And so
00:55:05.500
I might as well just get my own and okay, you can take that. There's nothing that's going to stop
00:55:10.380
you. It's very popular mentality and it will continue to be. However, if you don't make that
00:55:15.140
shift, then your kids will have, or if you even have kids, you know, they'll have the same,
00:55:19.600
uh, mindset, the generational mindset will continue and nothing will get better. And that's really
00:55:25.100
the point I was trying to make is just at some point we have to be the generation that takes
00:55:29.120
ownership and makes the change because if we don't do it, it just doesn't happen. Uh, perspicacious
00:55:35.100
heretic says, does the greatest generation have any blame in this? It seems like a lot of moral decay
00:55:39.120
from their boomer children was just allowed unabated. And yes, of course, right? Like that's a good
00:55:44.240
point. And one that many people have made is a, you know, this generation didn't come from nowhere
00:55:48.420
at just as many people pointed out the gen X or the millennials didn't come from nowhere.
00:55:52.520
So if your problem with those, you should probably look to previous generations. And of course you're
00:55:55.700
right that the greatest generation does have a certain level of ownership that they have to take
00:56:00.760
over the route that their children, uh, kind of traced. And again, I think a lot of that comes from
00:56:06.540
not knowing how to deal with the massification and affluence of society post baby boom. They just
00:56:13.100
didn't know what to restrict. We didn't know what a lot of this stuff would do to people.
00:56:18.240
We didn't know, uh, how much of a civilizational asset it would be. And you can, you know, we,
00:56:24.060
and yeah, so we can just blame it all on ignorance and maybe they, maybe they're not, uh, liable
00:56:28.860
because of the kind of the, the ignorance that they had. However, uh, they certainly have to have
00:56:33.440
some level of blame, right? Because they, those kids did not arrive at this understanding without
00:56:38.080
it. Uh, and maybe they should have instilled more thoroughly into their own children that there's
00:56:43.440
a generational duty, uh, to each other, uh, that had to be passed down. And if you don't do it,
00:56:48.900
uh, serious portions of your society will start coming apart. Cooper weirdo again. Thank you very
00:56:54.340
much, sir. Okay. Honest question. Do millennials even want power? It's so much easier to blame the
00:56:59.080
boomers and make no effort. Zoomers can do great things, but they're too depressed. Irony is always,
00:57:03.820
is always way easier. Yeah. I agree with you that that is a real issue, right? There's, um,
00:57:08.600
something that blows people away repeatedly, but isn't too shocking to me mainly because
00:57:12.900
I was a teacher. So I had to regularly interface that that's kind of one advantage I've had
00:57:18.000
is I've, I've, I've had to regularly interface with multiple generations of people when they're
00:57:23.020
younger and older. I taught when I first came out of college, I was teaching up until just a few years
00:57:27.780
ago. I took some breaks in between to do journalism and politics and things, but I have taught multiple
00:57:32.940
generations of students. And so I've seen this effect over the years and it really is true. A lot of
00:57:37.380
people get surprised that the fact that, uh, that, uh, for instance, zoomers or gen alpha kids,
00:57:42.860
we're not interested in getting their driver's license. And that kind of blows people's minds
00:57:46.780
because they're like, of course I went independent. Of course I, of course I want control. That was the
00:57:50.600
thing I wanted the most when I was a kid. And it didn't really exist with younger millennials and
00:57:55.920
then, or sorry, uh, younger, uh, uh, zoomers and, uh, kind of the current generation coming up
00:58:02.520
and it blows a lot of people's mind away. But, uh, but I think that there, there is a real truth
00:58:09.940
that people who there's a learned helplessness, right? When you don't think that you're going to
00:58:14.360
have a future, when you, when you look at the future and say, okay, I can't get the rates.
00:58:18.880
I can't get the job. I can't get the girl. I can't get the house. I can't get the family.
00:58:24.000
When you look at that, then at some point you just say, okay, well, I don't want to be any part
00:58:27.540
of the system. And again, like, it's just easier to dive into the hedonism. It's easier to, to heap
00:58:33.520
on the irony. There's a very real reason that you can sell people this kind of Netflix, uh, you know,
00:58:40.280
Grubhub, uh, you know, uh, uh, virtual reality type, uh, existence because the real world they've
00:58:48.820
always looked at just never had an opportunity for them. And the answer is going to be really,
00:58:53.160
uh, most millennials won't want power and most zoomers won't either, but the ones who will
00:58:57.980
take action, the ones who do take action and accountability will be the ones that leave.
00:59:03.220
Because again, the boomers won't be here forever, guys. They just won't.
00:59:06.820
And in many Gen Xers felt like they were already passed over and their time has already come and gone.
00:59:11.880
And so, you know, there will be a real moment of transition. Uh, and the people who are willing to,
00:59:16.880
to kind of step up, uh, will be the ones who shape the future. Uh, creeper weirdo here,
00:59:22.600
read that in a green text. Uh, okay. Thank you. Uh, tiny Rick says the number one thing
00:59:27.960
millennials can do is reestablish IRL organization and zoomers who want to be a part of it. If nothing
00:59:33.220
else, we have each other. That's exactly right. That's exactly the mentality that you should have.
00:59:37.820
One thing you need to remember guys is that the institutions around you are failing. Sorry. I know
00:59:43.020
that's a black pill, but there's a white pill wrapped inside that black pill. The institutions
00:59:47.580
inside you are failing as much as you might feel, Oh, the boomers, Oh, the boomers. Once the boomers
00:59:52.300
and you know, and some of the older Gen X people phase out of what is left of the workplace and
00:59:57.320
other social organizations, we're in serious trouble. What's left of social fabric. Those,
01:00:02.440
those churches that are still standing, those civic organizations that are still standing,
01:00:07.480
those kinds of, uh, cultural institutions that are still standing. The families, the intergenerational
01:00:13.600
families are held together by the boomers. They're the only ones left that care. Not because maybe
01:00:20.440
they did their best to cultivate it when they were young, but they're the only ones that remember
01:00:23.980
what was like to even have that stuff. They're the ones who are, you know, retired and putting
01:00:28.780
their time in. They're the ones volunteering at the rotary club and the Kiwanis. They're the ones
01:00:33.920
who are making your church's food pantry run and that kind of stuff. They're the ones who still
01:00:38.360
remember how to repair all those critical systems that we need. And they're going to be gone at some
01:00:43.540
point. Okay. And so that means that we're going to need people to take up that slack, which means
01:00:49.220
you can be these people. You can reestablish those IRL connections. Think of all the fraternal orders
01:00:54.900
that are dying right now. Think of the moose lodges that are dying right now. Think of all of the
01:01:00.400
rotary clubs, all of the Kiwanises, all the places that used to be the pillars of the community that held
01:01:06.360
things up. Think of all of those things that are going to go away when the boomers are gone. Okay.
01:01:12.020
You can step into those roles now. They're desperate. They're looking for young people
01:01:16.420
to pick up those clubs and run with them. You can be those people. You can do this. You can take the
01:01:21.360
action. But I think Tiny Rick's exactly right that you have to reinvest in this.
01:01:27.600
Matt Grenier says, did you see Buckele's victory speech last week? I showed it to my whole family
01:01:34.960
now and they love the president of El Salvador. You see him as a white pill or mostly relevant
01:01:39.360
to us in the US. Yeah. For those who didn't know, it was a very powerful speech. He was reelected by
01:01:44.580
a massive landslide, understandably so. He has transformed El Salvador from the most dangerous
01:01:50.400
country in the world to one of the safest in the Western Hemisphere. El Salvador is frankly safer than
01:01:56.560
large parts of America. So here's the thing. I'm always careful about praising foreign leaders who I
01:02:04.780
don't know well enough. I've learned about Buckele. John Slaughter, I believe, was the guy
01:02:11.380
who actually just did a great piece on his sub stack. So shout out to him if you want to look at
01:02:16.600
some of Buckele. I think also over at maybe it was IM1776. Ben Braddock also did a piece on him recently
01:02:27.640
so you can learn some more about him. But as somebody who has only known, I only know what's
01:02:32.100
in those pieces. I really don't know enough. I try not to give unqualified support to people because,
01:02:38.460
you know, who knows? They turn on something, something terrible happens. Now you've been
01:02:42.600
cheering on some crazy thing. But as far as I can tell, it looks like this is a guy who has
01:02:48.020
transformed El Salvador, done so for the better. I think it is a white pill because it shows people
01:02:53.720
that the decline we're in is a choice. If El Salvador can clean up its streets, America can
01:02:59.580
do the same if it has the political will. But it needs to have the political will. If you look at
01:03:04.300
Buckele, the speech he gave specifically was people told us that our population had to die.
01:03:10.200
Our people had to die, had to be murdered by these massive narcotics gangs for human rights.
01:03:15.980
That was the argument. We can't we can't lock up the gangs because of human rights. And he said,
01:03:20.820
whatever, go pound sand. I'm going to value my people first. I don't care about your international
01:03:26.320
community. I don't care about your reputation. I don't care about your human rights ratings.
01:03:31.160
I'm going to save the lives of my people. And he did. And now it's a better place to live.
01:03:35.460
And that's a white pill. Now, the bad part is that most of that pressure comes from America and
01:03:41.120
its satellites and that we're the main reason that people don't make the choice to do this. And so it
01:03:46.720
makes it hard to do it in the United States. However, the more I think, again, the more we
01:03:52.740
see from red state governors driving this kind of stuff, the better. I don't think we're going to
01:03:56.900
see a nationwide transformation anytime soon. I mean, let's hope, man, let's hope that Donald
01:04:00.840
Trump just comes in and he really does come in. Day one dictator changes everything, you know,
01:04:05.040
fixes everything. That would be great. Right. That one day where he comes in and fixes everything
01:04:10.920
like he said he would. That'd be great. Right. But I'm kind of I'm kind of doubtful. Right.
01:04:16.340
Instead, I think what you're probably going to get is a lot more hamstring of the agenda from a lot
01:04:22.580
more of this bureaucracy. Hopefully they have to learn some less lessons. The 2025 team has some
01:04:28.820
ideas about how to clean out the bureaucracy, but it's probably going to take them a lot longer
01:04:32.260
than it did. That said, I really do hope that that is a wide scale change for the United States,
01:04:39.300
but I think it's more likely to be something that occurs on the individual state level where
01:04:45.200
you're more likely to win those victories. Again, I think guys like Ron DeSantis and Greg Abbott
01:04:49.420
are great examples, but they themselves need to go further and other governors then need to follow
01:04:55.560
the example. I am excited that Ron DeSantis is back doing what he does best, which is being an
01:05:00.720
incredible governor of the state. I live in Florida. I hope he triples down on what he was doing before
01:05:06.540
when it comes to bettering the state. And I hope that he drives other people to do exactly that.
01:05:12.020
Creeper Weirder said, I hear that they put the woke away at the game. Is that true? Yes.
01:05:17.180
Again, I think that I am going to ultimately win my bet against academic agents. I don't think the
01:05:22.840
woke is being put away. I think the Black National Anthem is just one of many examples why this is here to
01:05:27.820
stay and will continue to be forced on people on a regular basis. I don't know. I don't watch a lot
01:05:34.640
network TV. However, the fact that or really, you know, in general, however, a little bit of
01:05:43.320
watching the football has reconnected me to how bad this trash is and how much is being pumped into
01:05:48.680
people. I'm not saying that because I'm saying, oh, it's great to watch trash. I'm just saying there
01:05:52.580
was some value. I was kind of isolated. I had forgotten how bad this had become. And now I'm like,
01:05:58.340
oh, wow. No, this is just a constant fire hose of propaganda. I don't think it's going anywhere,
01:06:02.520
guys. Sean Cosgrove says, last February, I went to a University of Minnesota hockey game. The Black
01:06:08.740
National Anthem was played out of AK fans in the arena before the game. Couldn't find a black person
01:06:13.020
outside of the student section. Yeah. I mean, that's kind of exactly what you would expect at a
01:06:18.340
hockey game, but that doesn't matter. The key is the division. The key is inserting this, breaking down
01:06:23.540
every ritual that used to bind people together, whether it's relevant or not, whether anyone in the
01:06:27.720
crowd would actually be the people who care. That doesn't really matter. Again, maybe most of this
01:06:33.400
is being pushed by radical leftists, you know, whites in many places. That's probably the case
01:06:37.940
and certainly is in a hockey game. So I think you're probably going to unfortunately expect to see that
01:06:43.860
continue even in places where there's no one who would even narratively at least expect or
01:06:49.900
appreciate the playing of that particular national anthem. Creepy Reader says, don't look at me. I used to
01:06:56.240
watch WrestleMania. Yeah, I was into wrestling when I was a kid. It's always a little weird for me
01:07:01.940
when adults are into it, but at the same time, you know, I like some things that maybe I should
01:07:08.240
have grown out of too. All of us probably have some level hang up of that, but you know, the wrestling
01:07:13.780
memes are fun. I have had fun doing the wrestling memes with academic agent that has been entertaining
01:07:18.920
if nothing else. House of Osborne says, democracy is the Athens-Greece battle of Argonus. Sorry,
01:07:26.980
I probably should be able to pronounce that, but I cannot at the moment. Thank you, sir.
01:07:31.600
Thuggo says, we've taken so many legislative L's at a federal level over the last 60 years.
01:07:37.680
Is there any overcoming this? Again, I think it's possible, but I think it probably does start
01:07:42.640
at the state level. It really is a federal government that fears that it's losing legitimacy
01:07:50.020
among the states because the states are being run better, might turn things around, might make changes,
01:07:55.880
might look for better legislative remedies. However, I think that that's probably a road that is long
01:08:04.100
in the building and starts at the state level. You have to make the federal government feel
01:08:09.240
like they actually have to do something of value. At the moment, both parties are desperately fighting
01:08:15.300
over what nation's borders they have to protect first. For the left, it's Ukraine and the Palestinians.
01:08:23.780
For the Republicans, it's Israel. But for neither party, is it America? And until you have politicians
01:08:31.080
who feel compelled to protect, say, I don't know, the borders of their own nation before stealing money
01:08:36.200
from the American people and sending it to nations that should never receive it, uh, until you have
01:08:42.380
that kind of shift, then I don't think you're probably going to get a lot of W's at the federal
01:08:47.000
level. And the fact that both parties are more than willing to do this, and it's really just a
01:08:51.820
question of what foreign country, not if, uh, really, really is a huge issue. And I don't think we're
01:08:57.360
going to see a lot of change until we see that change. All right, guys, I'm going to go ahead and wrap
01:09:03.040
this up, but I want to say thank you to everybody for stopping by. Lots of questions from the people
01:09:06.940
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01:09:39.420
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01:09:45.120
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01:09:49.520
but it was great to see you. And as always, I will talk to you next time.