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A Covid Bill Crap Sandwich | Ep. 1162


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Ben Shapiro talks about the $1 Trillion Government Shutdown Relief Package, and why the government should not have been shut down in the first place. He also talks about why the shutdown is a good thing and why California should get more money from the federal government to bail out their own people who are in need of it. Links From This Episode: All Previous Podcast Episodes Free Training From Drop Ship Lifestyle Leave Us a Review On Apple Podcasts Subscribe To Our YouTube Channel Learn more about your ad choices. What's your favorite kind of coffee? What s your favorite type of cappuccino? What kind of soda do you like to drink most often and why does it taste good? Which one is your favorite and why is it good to drink it the most? And what s the worst thing you can do to support your favorite coffee shop or coffee shop? Subscribe to our new podcast, to get 10% off your first purchase when you shop at Caff in-store or online. Stop putting your online data at risk at Express VPN. Get protected at ExpressVpn. Get protected, get protected at Viptipto.co Stop that! Slash Slash on all the latest news and stuff on the internet on The Ben Shapiro Show This show is sponsored by ExpressVPN. Ben Shapiro's new show is a show all about privacy and personal safety and personal data protection and personal cybersecurity - watch it on the ExpressVPN Watch it here on the Anchor app on the latest weekdays on the Charts on Charts and Charts Protect your online privacy and viptips The Charts is all about that and much more! on the Viptips and vibes and vpns and vcs and vc . on Chads on The Chads Podcasts on The Hill and Chads and Chats on Chats and Chaps on Chaps and Chops on Chops and Chopes on Chopes and Chots and Chokes and Chicks on Chutes and Chucks and Chions on Chions and Chogs and Chigs and Choggans and Chans on Chains and Chins and Ch Cans and Cokes and Cans & Chions On The Chicks and Censys and Cots & Cokes on Chins


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00:00:00.000 A massive COVID relief bill includes billions in waste and nonsense.
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00:00:07.000 And Anthony Fauci says we should keep everything shut down, but also keep importing people from the UK, despite a possible new virus strain.
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00:01:38.000 Okay, so last night, the Congress passed overwhelmingly a $1 trillion COVID relief package.
00:01:44.000 It actually passed by in the Senate a 92 to six vote.
00:01:48.000 The six Republicans who voted against, and this should give you an idea of exactly what's wrong with the bill, are Marsha Blackburn, Rick Scott of Florida, Ron Johnson of Wisconsin, Mike Lee of Utah, Rand Paul of Kentucky, and Ted Cruz of Texas, which is to say the most conservative members of the Senate voted against the bill, mainly because the bill is, as all giant bills are, a crap sandwich.
00:02:06.000 And naturally, the media celebrate the crap sandwich.
00:02:08.000 So first of all, a couple of things are worthy of note.
00:02:10.000 A lot of the stuff that you're hearing about what the bill is for and how it doesn't provide enough relief to people, it's not actually true.
00:02:17.000 Okay, so you're hearing right now, for example, that people only got $600 in relief.
00:02:21.000 That is not correct.
00:02:23.000 Okay, stimulus checks.
00:02:24.000 Ernie Tedeschi, who's a former U.S.
00:02:25.000 Treasury economist, There's a good thread on Twitter pointing out that people are just getting this wrong.
00:02:30.000 They're saying, oh, well, you know, it's only $600 in relief.
00:02:32.000 That's all we get after all these.
00:02:34.000 OK, first of all, before we even get to the problem with that argument, let us point out that there is a solid case to be made that the federal government should not even be providing relief at this point, considering how widely disparate various states are in their lockdown regiments.
00:02:47.000 At the beginning, when everybody was locked down, When the federal government was encouraging all states to shut down, there was a good case to be made that maybe the federal government needed to bail everybody out.
00:02:55.000 We are now nine months into this thing.
00:02:57.000 Florida is wide open, okay?
00:02:59.000 Places like North Dakota are wide open.
00:03:02.000 There are lots of places that have said, you can still do business, like North Dakota right now.
00:03:06.000 Still has an unemployment rate of, I believe, well under 4%.
00:03:09.000 Meanwhile, places like New York have like a 15% unemployment rate because they shut down and they never started not shutting down.
00:03:15.000 The same thing happened in California.
00:03:17.000 So having North Dakota bail out California and New York based on their different shutdown regimens doesn't make a whole hell of a lot of sense.
00:03:24.000 The counter argument would be that the federal government is still encouraging place-by-place shutdowns, that this is based mostly on data, which I kind of don't believe, as opposed to politics.
00:03:33.000 But there's a solid case to be made that really, if California wants to increase its unemployment benefits and take out more debt in order to do that, it should go ahead and do that, and New York should do the same.
00:03:41.000 And that's a New York and a California problem that is not really like a Kansas problem.
00:03:45.000 Okay, but putting that Complaints aside, which I think there's some truth to that, and also putting aside the fact that what you actually want to do is encourage people to get back to work if they are young and they are healthy, and it has been insipid from the very start to suggest that the work rules should be the same for a 65-year-old person with diabetes as they are for a 21-year-old fresh out of college.
00:04:04.000 Putting all of those policies aside and talking about just what is in the relief bill and with the understanding that there are a ton of people who are out of work who should not be out of work and who do need the relief at least in this moment and this is sort of emergency spending.
00:04:15.000 A lot of the lies that are being told about this bill are in fact lies.
00:04:18.000 So for example, Again, people suggesting there's only $600 in COVID relief in this bill.
00:04:23.000 That is not correct.
00:04:24.000 Ernie Tedeschi says stimulus checks are only around one-fifth of the total bill.
00:04:28.000 Unemployment insurance in America typically pays around 50% of pre-layoff wages, though it does vary state by state.
00:04:33.000 With this extra $300 a week, that'll be about 85%.
00:04:35.000 There's unemployment insurance in the bill as well.
00:04:38.000 Okay, so you're mostly being filled in via your state unemployment as well as now the federal unemployment.
00:04:44.000 If you're unemployed, you get an extra $1,300 per month through mid-March.
00:04:48.000 If you're a gig worker or you've been out of work since early 2020, that's on top of having your unemployment insurance benefits extended.
00:04:54.000 The bill includes another $300 billion in In paycheck protection program loans, the PPP loans, which are essentially payroll support for small business, right?
00:05:03.000 In order for those loans to be forgiven, you have to just pass that money right through to employees, even if your business is not currently open.
00:05:09.000 I've actually thought that that was a bad idea from the start because you're basically using these various businesses as pass-throughs for direct aid.
00:05:16.000 Instead of just signing people checks, you're now telling a business that they have to keep on paying all of the expenses of employees who, when the economy recovers, may not be coming back at all.
00:05:25.000 But that isn't the bill.
00:05:26.000 If a business wants all of these loans fully forgiven, they essentially have to maintain their employment and wages, which is effectively the equivalent 100% payroll support.
00:05:34.000 So if you work at one of these places and you are getting money through PPP and you are also getting a check, then you're in many cases making more than you were when you were actually working at these places, according to Ernie Tedeschi.
00:05:45.000 He points out the problem with the U.S.
00:05:46.000 response originally was not its initial generosity.
00:05:49.000 We actually did a hell of a lot more than just $1,200 checks back in March.
00:05:52.000 Again, this is a very Twitter talking point, is the idea that over the course of the year, you only got $1,800 from the government since March.
00:05:57.000 That is not true in any way, shape, or form.
00:06:00.000 Unemployment insurance has been going for literally tens of millions of people in the United States since the beginning of the pandemic.
00:06:06.000 He points out we probably did more than any other advanced economy besides Canada, even adjusting for the preexisting safety net.
00:06:12.000 The problem instead is that the U.S.
00:06:13.000 leaned heavily on that unemployment insurance system to deliver aid, and that it was inconsistent, it was cranky, some people didn't get the checks when they needed to, right?
00:06:19.000 That is a problem with the general government aid system, but that is not a problem with what Congress did.
00:06:23.000 Okay, so, this was an awful lot of aid, right?
00:06:26.000 I mean, there was a lot of money in this particular bill.
00:06:29.000 And so, people who are complaining that there was not very much money in the particular bill are just wrong about this.
00:06:33.000 Senator John Kennedy from Louisiana points out correctly, he says, you know, you guys are complaining there wasn't enough money.
00:06:38.000 We're spending a trillion dollars, for goodness sake, and we spent like seven trillion dollars earlier this year.
00:06:42.000 Here's Kennedy on Fox News.
00:06:44.000 Is this real help, or is this just optics for senators in Washington to make it look like they're bringing real help to the American people?
00:06:52.000 Which is it?
00:06:54.000 Oh, it's real help.
00:06:56.000 It's a trillion dollars, for God's sakes.
00:07:00.000 What is that, $1,000 million?
00:07:04.000 And there is no money, Ferry.
00:07:07.000 We don't have this money.
00:07:09.000 We don't have 5% of it, Sandra.
00:07:11.000 It's real help.
00:07:11.000 We had to borrow it.
00:07:13.000 Will it be enough?
00:07:14.000 I think it will be, but we're just going to have to wait and see.
00:07:17.000 OK, so there are a couple of other things that were passed at the same time.
00:07:21.000 The continuing resolution to fund the government was passed at the same time.
00:07:24.000 There were also some defense bills that were passed at the same time as this giant bill.
00:07:28.000 Basically, in a last minute of legislation, Congress just passed through.
00:07:33.000 Thousands of pages of legislation, which is really the bigger issue with this particular passage.
00:07:39.000 There are problems with the bill for sure, and we're going to go through all of them.
00:07:41.000 The bigger problem is that there are problems now with every bill, because the only way legislation gets done is it basically gets done through a Congress that is generally constipated until there's a blowout.
00:07:52.000 That's basically the way it works.
00:07:53.000 You reach a deadline, and then Congress just, bleh, out, like a 5,000-page bill, and then everybody is forced to vote on it within about 30 seconds.
00:08:01.000 So they do nothing for six months, and then just, they have spastic colon, then bleh, out comes a giant, horrible bill that is filled with some good things, but a lot of crap, and then you are supposed to be like, oh, well, I'm so glad that Congress is here to save all of us.
00:08:15.000 One, by the way, quick notion, When I say that they passed a bunch of bills, including the continuing resolution to fund the government, as well as this giant trillion dollar relief package.
00:08:25.000 They also passed this defense bill, right?
00:08:27.000 That defense bill is the one that actually includes the foreign aid for Israel.
00:08:30.000 So you're seeing on Twitter this trending idea that $500 million in aid were contained in the COVID relief bill.
00:08:35.000 That is not true.
00:08:36.000 Congress passed a suite of bills, including COVID relief and the bill funding the Defense Department for 2021, which also includes foreign aid, as Yair Rosenberg of Tablet Magazine points out.
00:08:45.000 It doesn't matter.
00:08:47.000 A lot of the people who aren't super friendly to Israel on Twitter started passing that around so naturally it trended on Twitter last night.
00:08:51.000 It is worth debunking that notion thoroughly.
00:08:54.000 We'll get to more of the debunking in just a second.
00:08:56.000 We'll talk about what is in here and whether Republicans should vote for it.
00:08:59.000 There are people who are urging Trump to veto it.
00:09:00.000 He's not going to veto this bill.
00:09:01.000 I mean, that's just not going to happen.
00:09:03.000 Not when there are this many people who are hurting.
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00:10:41.000 What exactly is in this COVID relief bill?
00:10:44.000 According to Emily Zanotti writing for the Daily Wire, Congress is set to pass two major spending bills on Monday, a nearly $1 trillion coronavirus relief bill and a $1.4 trillion omnibus bill in a record-setting vote that will fund hundreds of government programs.
00:10:57.000 And according to Lawmakers Assist, individual Americans struggling to make ends meet because of COVID-19 related restrictions.
00:11:04.000 The bill does, in fact, contain some help for those facing economic struggles.
00:11:07.000 In addition to providing a second round of direct stimulus checks to individual taxpayers, this time $600, the bill extends federal supplemental unemployment benefits, right?
00:11:14.000 That is the really big check.
00:11:15.000 It's not the $600 check.
00:11:16.000 It is the extension of federal supplemental unemployment benefits.
00:11:19.000 The jobless, as well as gig employees experiencing a slowdown in business, can now get an extra $300 per week through March, through mid-March.
00:11:26.000 So if you are on unemployment insurance, You're really talking about like an $1,800 check every month.
00:11:31.000 You're not talking about $600.
00:11:32.000 You're talking about $1,800.
00:11:33.000 And that is on top of whatever state aid you are getting as well.
00:11:37.000 The coronavirus relief package expands paycheck protection as well, opening up $248 billion in funding for loans to struggling businesses, even as evidence emerges that millions from the first round of PPP loans went to connected corporations.
00:11:48.000 This is, of course, the great risk of all of these bills.
00:11:51.000 I'm not sure it is worthwhile bailing out movie theaters, to be perfectly frank with you.
00:11:54.000 And this comes from somebody who loves movie theaters.
00:11:56.000 This time around, the COVID-19 bill contains special grants for specific industries, $20 billion for businesses in low-income communities, $15 billion for struggling live venues, movie theaters, and museums.
00:11:56.000 I love movie theaters.
00:12:07.000 I'm not sure it is worthwhile bailing out movie theaters, to be perfectly frank with you.
00:12:10.000 And this comes from somebody who loves movie theaters.
00:12:13.000 I love movie theaters.
00:12:14.000 My wife and I used to go on lots of dates to movie theaters before the COVID shutdown happened.
00:12:20.000 I love seeing movies in the theater.
00:12:22.000 I think it's a great tragedy that this may be a communal experience that goes the way of the dodo bird, but I don't know why we're spending $15 billion to bail out movie theaters.
00:12:30.000 Not given the fact that you've got places like HBO Max that have already explained that they are going to simultaneously release things in theaters and at home, which means that people are just not going to go to theaters.
00:12:38.000 I think that movie theaters are going to be the last thing to come back, and it's going to become more of a specialty thing.
00:12:42.000 I don't think you're going to see movie theaters There are a number of breaks for businesses, according to Emily, some of which haven't gone over well on social media.
00:12:51.000 The relief bill includes a two-year tax break for business meals.
00:12:54.000 This is a priority for President Trump, apparently, and rolls over a variety of temporary tax breaks known as extenders, some for multiple years.
00:13:01.000 The business meal deduction has been labeled the three-martini lunch deduction that very few people, aside from key Democratic legislators in major cities, are having many dine-in luncheons, as Emily Zanotti suggests.
00:13:10.000 The bill also helps renters.
00:13:12.000 There's a $25 billion assistance program and a continued eviction moratorium.
00:13:16.000 Under the COVID-19 relief deal, $13 billion will go to food benefits, $15 billion to a program for direct payments to farmers to assist in keeping American food production afloat.
00:13:25.000 Well, I wasn't aware that we had a problem in keeping American food production afloat, considering that demand is still kind of the same in the American food markets.
00:13:33.000 It's just going through different channels, just not going through restaurants.
00:13:35.000 There are big handouts in the bill.
00:13:36.000 Airlines get $15 billion.
00:13:37.000 Again, I'm not sure that that is worthwhile.
00:13:39.000 I'm not sure that the taxpayer should be paying out airlines who have experienced this shock And setback.
00:13:45.000 You don't want them going bankrupt.
00:13:46.000 You want them still existing, obviously.
00:13:48.000 But it seems to me that airlines, it's going to be a while before people are traveling in quite the way they used to.
00:13:53.000 People are not going to travel casually quite as easily for probably a couple of years, particularly if you're elderly.
00:13:57.000 Airports are going to get $2 billion.
00:13:59.000 Amtrak is going to get $1 billion.
00:14:01.000 So I guess that leaves Joe Biden and Pete Buttigieg particularly happy.
00:14:04.000 Very, very romantic Amtrak.
00:14:05.000 Higher education.
00:14:07.000 Higher education is wildly overpriced.
00:14:16.000 It's been pushed up in the marketplace by federal loans in the first place.
00:14:20.000 There's a good case to be made that huge swaths of higher education should be left on the cutting room floor, including...
00:14:26.000 Many of the what we would call North Campus majors at UCLA, the liberal arts majors, should be left on the cutting room floor.
00:14:31.000 I do not know why we are dumping out $82 billion to higher education, particularly at a time when you are looking at places like Harvard that have billion-dollar endowments.
00:14:39.000 That makes no sense to me.
00:14:40.000 The U.S.
00:14:41.000 Postal Service also wins big.
00:14:43.000 Congress used the bill to forgive a $10 billion loan to the U.S.
00:14:46.000 Postal Service, a loan they gave to the service in an earlier coronavirus relief bill.
00:14:49.000 The USPS has no hope of ever paying back.
00:14:53.000 States will get $20 billion to help purchase vaccines and distribute them.
00:14:55.000 They also get $20 billion to help with expanding COVID-19 testing.
00:14:58.000 They don't get a bailout for the economic damage they've incurred during the extended virus lockdown.
00:15:02.000 Democrats pushed for that.
00:15:03.000 Republicans said no.
00:15:04.000 On the other hand, Republicans were pushing for a limit to legal liability for corporations based on COVID, right?
00:15:10.000 If they said you need to come to work if you're not sick, and then people came to work and they were sick, people were going to sue these corporations.
00:15:15.000 Apparently, they still can, theoretically.
00:15:17.000 There are further expenditures that are now coming to light.
00:15:20.000 Apparently, the final draft of the bill contains a number of handouts for Congress, including a provision paying for the additional pandemic expenditures incurred by the Congressional Day Care Center.
00:15:28.000 Ooh, sounds great.
00:15:29.000 And $5 million to protect members from the coronavirus by expanding testing and increasing the budget of the congressional physician.
00:15:35.000 Also, the Washington, D.C.
00:15:36.000 government got $38 million in reimbursements for its work controlling protests and providing security.
00:15:42.000 I just, why?
00:15:44.000 Did they do a good job with that?
00:15:45.000 Did I miss the part where the Washington, D.C.
00:15:47.000 government did a fantastic job controlling protests and providing security when people were literally running through downtown Washington, D.C., just breaking store windows?
00:15:55.000 That seems like a waste of money as well.
00:15:58.000 We'll get to more of what is in the bill and Why it is that Congress, again, has spastic colon when it comes to these bills.
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00:17:16.000 Okay, so a couple of things to note here.
00:17:19.000 Nancy Pelosi was considered the master negotiator throughout this entire process.
00:17:22.000 She turned down a deal that was literally twice this size just a couple of months ago before the election.
00:17:27.000 Steve Mnuchin went to her and he's like, I will give you $1.8 trillion.
00:17:29.000 And she was like, no, there's an election.
00:17:34.000 And now she's out there championing the bill.
00:17:36.000 Because she's actually terrible at her job.
00:17:38.000 I mean, truly awful at her job.
00:17:40.000 Which is probably why only a bare majority of Democratic voters actually want to see her continue as Speaker of the House.
00:17:44.000 Here she was saying $600 in relief is significant.
00:17:47.000 So she's trying to gloss over the fact that she completely blew this negotiation.
00:17:52.000 We also have in the legislation direct payments, which were not in the Republican bill, to America's working families.
00:18:02.000 I would like them to be bigger, but they are significant, and they will be going out soon.
00:18:08.000 By the way, she was asked directly by the media this morning why exactly she didn't just go along with Mnuchin's $1.8 trillion bill, and she couldn't give a good answer.
00:18:15.000 We all know the answer.
00:18:16.000 She was trying to hold up COVID relief until after the election.
00:18:19.000 We all know why this bill got done now.
00:18:20.000 The reason the bill got done now is because Democrats believed from election night on that they could now pass the COVID relief bill without doing any damage to Joe Biden or helping Donald Trump.
00:18:29.000 They were afraid of passing the COVID relief bill before the election because it might alleviate people's financial fears and lead to more votes for Donald Trump.
00:18:36.000 So instead, they held up the aid that you needed for political purposes.
00:18:39.000 This is perfectly obvious.
00:18:40.000 Steve Mnuchin, for his part, the Treasury Secretary, he says the $600 payments are gonna arrive after Christmas.
00:18:46.000 As you know, we've been working on for months additional money for those parts of the economy.
00:18:51.000 And we couldn't be more pleased that we got this done in time before the end of the year.
00:18:57.000 The president wanted direct payments, so we will be sending out next week direct deposit.
00:19:03.000 I expect we'll get the money out by the beginning of next week.
00:19:07.000 Okay, so that is getting done.
00:19:14.000 Now, there's a bunch of crap in here, right?
00:19:16.000 And for the only time, this is where you have the online meme.
00:19:20.000 The worst person you know just made an excellent point.
00:19:22.000 Heartbreaking.
00:19:23.000 Alexander Ocasio-Cortez actually tweeted out something correct.
00:19:26.000 I know, it's shocking to me too.
00:19:27.000 Yesterday, she tweeted out, this is why Congress needs time to actually read this package before voting on it.
00:19:32.000 Members of Congress have not read this bill.
00:19:33.000 It's over 5,000 pages, arrived at 2 p.m.
00:19:35.000 today.
00:19:36.000 We were told to expect a vote on it in two hours.
00:19:38.000 This isn't governance, it's hostage taking.
00:19:40.000 She happens to be exactly correct about this.
00:19:42.000 Okay, this is right.
00:19:43.000 And you know who agrees with this?
00:19:46.000 She continued, she said, by the way, it's not just members who need to see the bill ahead of time, you do.
00:19:49.000 The public needs to see these bills with enough time to contact the representative to let them know how they feel.
00:19:53.000 Members are reeling right now because they don't have time to consult with their communities.
00:19:57.000 She, again, this is right.
00:19:59.000 This is correct.
00:20:00.000 You know who agrees with this?
00:20:01.000 Probably one of the most conservative members of the United States Senate, Mike Lee from Utah.
00:20:05.000 of the United States Senate, Mike Lee from Utah.
00:20:07.000 He tweeted out, this is the spending bill under consideration in Congress today.
00:20:10.000 I received it just moments ago and will likely be asked to vote on it late tonight.
00:20:13.000 It is 5,593 pages long.
00:20:15.000 I know there's some good things in it.
00:20:16.000 I'm equally confident that there are bad things in it.
00:20:19.000 Here's the really sad thing.
00:20:21.000 We're being told there will be no opportunity to amend or improve it.
00:20:23.000 As a result, nearly every member of Congress, House and Senate, Democrat or Republican, will have been excluded from the process of developing this bill, which will cost American taxpayers trillions of dollars.
00:20:32.000 This process, by which members of Congress are asked to defer blindly to legislation negotiated entirely in secret by four of their colleagues, must come to an end.
00:20:40.000 It won't come to an end until it no longer works for those empowered by it.
00:20:42.000 That can happen.
00:20:43.000 But only when most members of both houses and both political parties stop voting for bills they haven't read and, by design, cannot read until after it's too late.
00:20:50.000 He happens to be right.
00:20:51.000 Also, this is not going to change.
00:20:53.000 It's not.
00:20:53.000 This is the way governance is done now.
00:20:54.000 And the reason that governance is done this way now, there are a couple reasons for this.
00:20:57.000 So, the more cynical have suggested that one of the reasons that you end up with these giant omnibus packages that nobody ever reads is because we got rid of what are called earmarks.
00:21:07.000 So, earmarks were the Atrocious congressional behavior whereby a bill would basically be put forward and then a bunch of members would say, okay, you know what?
00:21:15.000 I'm not voting for that bill unless you give me a little giveaway for my district, right?
00:21:18.000 The Robert Byrd Memorial Bridge in West Virginia, right?
00:21:23.000 This is how you get highways named after senators, right?
00:21:25.000 The senator would say, I'm not going to pass this Defense Authorization Act unless we put in this $100,000 grant for my local post office with my name on it.
00:21:33.000 Okay, that was not great, right?
00:21:35.000 It was a bad practice.
00:21:36.000 The problem is you get rid of that practice, and what you end up with is those earmarks back in the bill, but not as earmarks.
00:21:41.000 They used to be done as amendments, and the nice thing about doing it as amendments is that it would then be exposed to the light of day, is that you would have people offer an amendment saying, I want my $100,000 post office, and people are like, that's stupid.
00:21:51.000 You need to vote for it anyway.
00:21:52.000 But now, it just gets done behind closed doors.
00:21:54.000 So now, it's like they roll out a 6,000 page bill, And it has all the same pork, it's just not exposed to the light of day in quite the same way.
00:22:01.000 So you're getting the same amount of pork, it's just not being done as quote-unquote earmarks.
00:22:06.000 And so you don't get to see how the sausage is made.
00:22:09.000 And one of the nice things about Congress is you're supposed to see how the sausage is made.
00:22:13.000 It also happens to be the case that it's a long-standing congressional practice to now wrap everything up into a giant ball so that nobody is answerable for any specific piece of legislation.
00:22:21.000 People have asked me what sort of constitutional amendment would I favor.
00:22:24.000 I'm generally not in favor of giant wide-scale changes to the Constitution.
00:22:27.000 One constitutional amendment that I would favor is that every bill has to be five pages and it has to come with a codicil in plain language.
00:22:34.000 There actually has to be some sort of explanation of what exactly is going on.
00:22:37.000 You cannot have 5,600 page bills where nobody knows what's in it because it creates a perverse incentive.
00:22:43.000 On both sides.
00:22:43.000 So here is the perverse incentive number one.
00:22:45.000 Perverse incentive number one is if you don't vote for this relief package, then you are labeled, as Twitter is currently doing, somebody awful.
00:22:51.000 This is why AOC, you can tell the difference between those who are principled and those who are not on this particular issue.
00:22:56.000 AOC said, I don't like that they presented this bill to me.
00:23:00.000 Two hours before the vote, she then voted for the bill.
00:23:02.000 Mike Lee said, I don't like how they presented this bill to me.
00:23:05.000 And then he voted against the bill.
00:23:06.000 So on the one hand, what you get, and I understand both positions on that, by the way.
00:23:10.000 I do.
00:23:11.000 Like, I can't believe I'm turning into a bit of an AOC defender here, but it actually is kind of true.
00:23:15.000 The fact is, if you don't vote for the bill and the bill, quote unquote, does good things, they then use this in your future election as a way to browbeat you.
00:23:23.000 So unless you are in a deep blue district or a deep red state, You have to vote for stuff that you think is going to overall be a good deal.
00:23:30.000 So every sandwich is a crap sandwich.
00:23:32.000 Every single sandwich.
00:23:33.000 There has never been and will never be again just a plain good bill.
00:23:36.000 It's not going to exist.
00:23:37.000 Instead, you're just going to get these crap sandwich...
00:23:40.000 And you can see why.
00:23:47.000 Again, there's a long political history in the United States of people saying, you know what?
00:23:50.000 I think there's more crap than sandwich in this particular bill, so I'm gonna vote against it.
00:23:53.000 And then being ripped for voting against the bill.
00:23:56.000 The most obvious example being Barry Goldwater.
00:23:59.000 In 1964, he voted against the Civil Rights Act, and then he was ripped up and down.
00:24:05.000 And people suggested that he voted against the Civil Rights Act because he was a racist.
00:24:07.000 Barry Goldwater was not a racist.
00:24:09.000 Barry Goldwater was very much anti-racism.
00:24:11.000 Barry Goldwater objected to the titles of the Civil Rights Act that specifically applied to private accommodations and to private businesses.
00:24:18.000 And he said, overall, I have to vote against the bill because I don't like this provision.
00:24:21.000 Instead, people say, oh, well, that means he doesn't like civil rights.
00:24:23.000 That's the way the game is played in Congress.
00:24:25.000 You pass these giant bills that are called COVID relief.
00:24:27.000 And then if it includes a bunch of crap, then you are castigated.
00:24:31.000 If you don't vote for it.
00:24:32.000 So on the one hand, you're castigated if you don't vote for it.
00:24:34.000 On the other hand, if these bills earn widespread support, you also get to be the congressional free rider.
00:24:39.000 So to be perfectly cynical about this, I like all of this.
00:24:42.000 I know personally all of the senators who voted against this bill.
00:24:45.000 I totally understand why other senators voted for the bill, and it did provide them the leeway to actually vote against the bill.
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00:26:22.000 Okay, so as I say, because this is the way that bills get done.
00:26:26.000 There is a sort of doubly edged bad incentive.
00:26:28.000 One is to vote for bad bills because you don't want to be castigated for not voting for it.
00:26:32.000 The other is to allow free riders to vote against the bill in order to uphold their purity of purpose to the rest of the Senate.
00:26:40.000 Right now, the way the bills normally were supposed to work, and always did, historically, at least for the first hundred years of the country, is that there would be a single-issue bill, the single-issue bill would come up, people would vote on the single-issue bill, it would either go up or it would go down, and that would be it.
00:26:52.000 And there was none of this, we're gonna package together 87,000 different topics, because, first of all, the executive branch was not capable of handling this stuff.
00:26:58.000 The bigger the government gets, the bigger the executive branch gets, the more Congress is going to be incentivized to blow out the spending.
00:27:04.000 And until the American people stand up and say, we don't like this, It's not going to happen.
00:27:07.000 And here's the problem.
00:27:08.000 The American people, they kind of do like this, okay?
00:27:10.000 The reality is, as much as Americans complain about Congress, as much as Americans bitch about how the sausage gets made, the reality is that when you ask Americans, would you like to see the American government spend less, they say yes.
00:27:21.000 And then when you ask them, would you like to see them spend less on X, people say, no, no, no, I like X.
00:27:26.000 Every single time.
00:27:27.000 Every single time.
00:27:28.000 Every poll shows this.
00:27:29.000 If you ever ask Americans, generally, should the American government be spending less?
00:27:34.000 And the American people are like, yeah, absolutely.
00:27:36.000 I mean, look at the taxes.
00:27:38.000 This is crazy.
00:27:38.000 We're spending $4 trillion a year on what?
00:27:40.000 On what?
00:27:41.000 And they're like, well, yeah, but do you want to see the federal government spend more on education?
00:27:44.000 People are like, yeah, that sounds good.
00:27:45.000 I like education.
00:27:45.000 Books are good.
00:27:47.000 I mean, nobody ever actually examines where all of this money goes in the end.
00:27:51.000 There are a few members of Congress who like to point this sort of stuff out, but typically it sort of gets ignored.
00:27:55.000 And the media, of course, cheer on all of this stuff.
00:27:58.000 The New York Times has this sycophantic piece today titled, A Dinner, A Deal, and Moonshine, How the Stimulus Came Together.
00:28:06.000 Top party leaders cinched a $900 billion relief deal after laying down their swords, but it took an empowered, bipartisan group of moderates to help bridge the divide.
00:28:14.000 No, what actually happened here is the election ended, and then Joe Biden told the Democrats, I don't want to come into office without a COVID relief bill in place, so please just surrender.
00:28:23.000 That's basically what happened here.
00:28:24.000 Okay, so in the end, for Republicans, this is a better deal for Republicans than it was for Democrats.
00:28:29.000 Okay, let's just put that out there.
00:28:30.000 This is a win by Mitch McConnell.
00:28:31.000 It is a negotiating win by Mitch McConnell.
00:28:33.000 As much crap as in there, Again, I'm just being realistic.
00:28:36.000 There is going to be an enormous amount of manure in every congressional bill from now until the end of time because the administrative state is too large, because the size of a government is too large, because the American people do not demand that their representatives only pass bills that they can understand.
00:28:50.000 And so this is just going to be the new normal, and it's going to be the new normal until the end of time.
00:28:55.000 Nonetheless, this thing gets passed.
00:28:57.000 The Democrats really don't get everything they are looking for here.
00:29:01.000 Senator Bernie Sanders, the progressive independent, according to the New York Times, had preemptively panned the emerging framework, in part because checks were not included.
00:29:07.000 He locked arms in the Senate with Josh Howley of Missouri, a conservative Republican in the House.
00:29:11.000 Representative Pramila Jayapal, Democrat of Washington, made a similar stand.
00:29:14.000 She had texted Pelosi in early December, threatening her group would oppose the stimulus package if it didn't contain some form of direct payment.
00:29:21.000 Senator Pat Toomey had other ideas with less than 48 hours until the government was set to shut down.
00:29:25.000 Toomey stood firm on one demand.
00:29:27.000 The stimulus measure must not only end an array of programs the Fed had created to help businesses and municipalities during the pandemic, it must also bar the central bank from creating anything like them in the future.
00:29:37.000 But Republicans rallied around Toomey.
00:29:38.000 Congressional leaders agreed they would need to extend government spending another day to buy time to resolve the impasse.
00:29:43.000 They ultimately struck an agreement before midnight, haggling on the floor, and in Chuck Schumer's suite, it took 18 hours before McConnell walked down to the Senate floor and announced the deal.
00:29:51.000 Okay, but, you know, everybody goes home happy because they can spend everybody else's money and money that has not yet been created.
00:29:58.000 Now, I've talked about some of the good stuff that is in here and some of the stuff that, you know, sort of needed to happen, but I've also talked about the fact that there's an enormous amount of money that is just going to sort of random crap.
00:30:10.000 So, again, it was drafted behind closed doors.
00:30:14.000 Fraud and waste have not been meaningfully addressed, as Brad Palumbo writes at the Free Enterprise Institute.
00:30:19.000 He has an entire piece about this.
00:30:20.000 This is the first COVID-19 stimulus bill.
00:30:22.000 The $2 trillion CARES Act was corrupted by waste, fraud, and abuse.
00:30:25.000 The federal government sent more than a million stimulus checks to dead people and many more to random European citizens.
00:30:30.000 The expanded unemployment system it created lost more to fraud alone than the entire system paid out in 2019.
00:30:35.000 The Paycheck Protection Program was swamped with potential fraud as tens of thousands of ineligible companies received money and thousands more were overpaid.
00:30:44.000 None of these problems have been meaningfully addressed by Congress, and the latest stimulus effort pours hundreds of billions of taxpayer money into fraud-rife programs without addressing the problem.
00:30:53.000 And then there is the question as to whether any of this is going to actually be effective.
00:30:58.000 The fact is that, unfortunately, the only thing that is going to solve this is getting out of lockdown in the end.
00:31:06.000 And the Paycheck Protection Program, as I say, is not really directed at preserving businesses.
00:31:09.000 It's more being done as a pass-through.
00:31:11.000 But when we talk about just the pure amount of garbage in here, there are certain things that I think should be legislated on.
00:31:17.000 I just don't know why they aren't in a COVID relief bill.
00:31:19.000 So, for example, there's an entire section in this COVID relief bill detailing the reincarnation of the Dalai Lama.
00:31:25.000 That's not a joke.
00:31:28.000 Now, I actually agree with the policy here, because the policy here basically says that China should have no role in picking the next Dalai Lama, and also suggests that we should set up an embassy in Tibet.
00:31:45.000 I kind of like all of those anti-Chinese measures, anti-Chinese government measures.
00:31:48.000 I'm not sure what they have to do with COVID relief.
00:31:50.000 Also, according to Reason Magazine, The bill also instructs the Smithsonian Institution to create two new identity-based museums, one for women and one for Latinos.
00:32:01.000 The bill also takes a position on the reincarnation of the Dalai Lama.
00:32:04.000 By the way, I don't know why we need a women museum and a Latino museum.
00:32:07.000 I understand we have a National African American History Museum, which was rife with critical race theory to the point where they actually released An exhibit a little earlier this year that was full of gems like the suggestion that merit-based systems and individualism and coming to work on time were white systems of privilege and power.
00:32:28.000 I'm not sure why we need more racially segregated museums.
00:32:31.000 I'm not sure why that's an important thing to be done at the federal level.
00:32:33.000 Also, it attempts to normalize U.S.
00:32:35.000 relations with Sudan, criminalizes illegal streaming, and creates a plan for building a Teddy Roosevelt presidential library in North Dakota, all of which I think is vital for people who are out of a job.
00:32:45.000 The bill actually needed to be brought into the chamber on wheels because, again, it is some 6,000 pages long.
00:32:51.000 Other wonders.
00:32:52.000 The COVID relief bill lays the groundwork for a quote-unquote climate security advisory council, which is exciting stuff.
00:32:58.000 It also includes $10 million for gender programs in Pakistan.
00:33:02.000 It also makes it illegal to give racehorses painkillers before training or racing, which is exciting stuff.
00:33:08.000 It provides $40 million to the Kennedy Center.
00:33:11.000 Tom Elliott from Grabian Media has compiled this list.
00:33:13.000 The COVID relief bill creates a commission tasked with educating consumers about the dangers associated with using or storing portable fuel containers for flammable liquids near an open flame.
00:33:22.000 I mean, I wasn't aware that this was a problem that required a government solution.
00:33:27.000 It seems like if you don't know not to put, you know, like an open gas canister next to an open flame, then kind of you deserve what you get a little bit.
00:33:34.000 I'm not sure that an awareness program is going to be all that helpful, but I suppose you could put that in a COVID.
00:33:38.000 I mean, what does it have to do with?
00:33:40.000 Sure, I guess as.
00:33:41.000 No, it has nothing to do with COVID.
00:33:42.000 I got nothing for you.
00:33:43.000 Also, the COVID relief bill includes $1.5 million for the Appropriation Committee's Office of Diversity and Inclusion, as well as a bunch of money for reception.
00:33:51.000 So very, very important stuff.
00:33:53.000 Also, the COVID relief bill mandates hiring measures to ensure diversity in the intelligence community, because I deeply care whether an analyst is gay, bisexual, transgender, little person.
00:34:04.000 When they are analyzing incoming Arabic threats.
00:34:07.000 I definitely need to know the identity of the person who's actually doing all of that.
00:34:11.000 By the way, the COVID relief package also includes $8 million to support the Biden presidential transition as well.
00:34:16.000 So lots and lots of stuff in that COVID relief bill and in the COVID package.
00:34:21.000 Generally, the media are cheering this.
00:34:23.000 They wouldn't have been cheering if it had been passed under Trump because that is the rule.
00:34:26.000 We'll get to more of that in just one second.
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00:35:45.000 into the COVID relief bill, the media's celebration of it, and then we'll get into everything COVID-related.
00:35:52.000 Anthony Fauci making some weird comments about keeping flights from the UK open.
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00:37:06.000 Meanwhile, obviously, the New York Times is chalking up the deal to, wait for it, wait for it, wait for it, Joe Biden.
00:37:17.000 Now, you gotta be asking yourself, what the hell does Joe Biden have to do with anything?
00:37:20.000 Trump's the president.
00:37:21.000 Mitch McConnell is running in the Senate.
00:37:23.000 Nancy Pelosi has been the Speaker of the House for a few years here.
00:37:26.000 What in the world are you even talking about?
00:37:28.000 Joe Biden is asleep in his basement.
00:37:30.000 He's been asleep in his basement for two years.
00:37:32.000 I mean, you talk about a Rip Van Winkle transformation.
00:37:35.000 Basically, Joe Biden went to sleep in 2018 and woke up president.
00:37:38.000 Or president-elect, supposedly, right?
00:37:40.000 I mean, that's where things stand.
00:37:42.000 The man pretty much was comatose, and then the Electoral College elected him, and he won the popular vote by 7 million votes, and he's gonna...
00:37:50.000 I guess, wake up in the Oval Office on January 21st, and he'll already have been given massive credit for everything that went on.
00:37:57.000 The media's desire to give credit to Joe Biden for things he has not done, it is matched only by their desire to give Barack Obama credit for a bunch of things that he never did either.
00:38:05.000 It must be wonderful to be a Democrat.
00:38:07.000 It's like, what did you do today, random Democrat?
00:38:09.000 Well, I breathed.
00:38:10.000 Oh, unbelievable breathing.
00:38:11.000 You did a great job breathing.
00:38:13.000 Joe Biden's main task throughout this campaign was to basically remain alive.
00:38:17.000 Right?
00:38:17.000 And we're not talking about, like, remain alive in the sense that he was, like, in the movie Die Hard.
00:38:20.000 We mean just remain physically alive.
00:38:22.000 That was his entire task during the campaign.
00:38:24.000 He accomplished this magnificent feat, and the media walked him.
00:38:27.000 Into election.
00:38:28.000 And now they're immediately attributing to him godlike powers to get done a COVID relief bill, even though he literally has nothing to do with it because he has no power because there's only one president at a time in the United States.
00:38:38.000 But according to the New York Times, Carl Pulse reporting, What do you mean, validated his belief?
00:38:58.000 He didn't do anything.
00:39:00.000 The hell are you talking about?
00:39:01.000 He's not even president yet.
00:39:02.000 What are you- what?
00:39:04.000 Like, huh?
00:39:06.000 Along with struggling Americans and businesses, the new president was a major beneficiary of the $900 billion pandemic stimulus measure that Congress haltingly but finally produced on Sunday and was on track to approve late Monday, which will give him some breathing room when he enters the White House next month.
00:39:19.000 Rather than face an immediate and dire need to act on an emergency economic aid package, Biden and his team can instead take a moment to try to fashion a more far-reaching recovery program and begin to tackle other issues.
00:39:28.000 I do love how every... Here's the way it works.
00:39:30.000 Whenever Congress passes a bill, And Mitch McConnell is the driving force behind the bill.
00:39:36.000 McConnell doesn't get the credit.
00:39:37.000 The Democrat gets the credit.
00:39:38.000 And then when it turns out that this bill was a wildly scaled down version from what Democrats were actually proposing, the media immediately say, well, this will provide a model for Democrats going forward because it's just the beginning of the ambition.
00:39:49.000 No, no, no, no.
00:39:50.000 You understand.
00:39:51.000 The bill went from large to smaller.
00:39:53.000 And now you are saying that in the future, these bills will go from small to larger.
00:39:57.000 Wrongo!
00:39:58.000 That is not how this is going to go.
00:39:59.000 If Republicans hold the Senate, if they win those two Georgia Senate seats, they will be stifling Joe Biden's agenda as well they should.
00:40:05.000 And yet the media are like, oh my God, look, they made a deal.
00:40:07.000 That means that they're going to be able to pass climate change legislation.
00:40:12.000 In media land, in the land of the New York Times, it is always heads, Democrats win, tails, Republicans lose.
00:40:18.000 According to the New York Times, the group of moderates was essential to the outcome, pushing Senate and House leaders of both parties into direct personal negotiations they'd avoided for months, demonstrating how crucial they are likely to be to Biden.
00:40:28.000 Again, this has nothing to do with Biden.
00:40:30.000 And Mitch McConnell all the way through was like, I'll negotiate with Pelosi.
00:40:32.000 And Pelosi was like, I'm eating ice cream.
00:40:34.000 I'll talk to you in six months.
00:40:36.000 I'm glad we forced the issue, said Senator Susan Collins, the Maine Republican who, along with Senator Joe Manchin, Democrat of West Virginia, were leaders of a months-long effort to break the impasse over pandemic aid, even as the virus exacted a growing economic and health toll on the country.
00:40:49.000 Given the slender partisan divides that will exist in both the Senate and House next year, the approach could provide a roadmap for the Biden administration.
00:40:55.000 If it hopes to break through congressional paralysis, especially in the Senate, and pass additional legislation, Biden has said another economic relief plan will be an early priority.
00:41:03.000 No.
00:41:04.000 No, no, no.
00:41:05.000 This is supposed to take us through March, right?
00:41:07.000 So, we don't need another economic relief plan.
00:41:09.000 We don't.
00:41:10.000 And Republicans would do well to note this now.
00:41:13.000 This was the last gasp.
00:41:13.000 No more.
00:41:14.000 There will be no more support from the conservative base for any more of these relief plans.
00:41:18.000 We understand a relief plan is necessary right now in many ways because of the COVID shutdown and because of the federal government's Unwillingness to actually open up particular areas because it is a state-based issue.
00:41:29.000 And we get that there are times and emergencies when people just need the support and this is sort of last-ditch effort.
00:41:35.000 Although again, I would have preferred if Congress had simply said to the states, this is on you guys.
00:41:38.000 You need to handle your own business here.
00:41:40.000 You're handling all of the rollout.
00:41:41.000 We're handling the vaccines because that's a national-level issue.
00:41:43.000 When it comes to unemployment insurance, really that should be a state-level issue.
00:41:46.000 Like, I wish that Congress had said that.
00:41:47.000 They didn't and they were never going to.
00:41:50.000 Which means that they were going to pass something here.
00:41:51.000 But if we get to March, right, and we have had hundreds of millions of people who have been vaccinated, and that has really started with the most vulnerable in our population, and we're still talking about COVID relief, that is not correct.
00:42:02.000 OK, so if The New York Times thinks the Republican Senate is going to go along with that, I think they have another thing coming.
00:42:08.000 Nonetheless, the New York Times using this as a basis to push further and further and further.
00:42:12.000 Mr. Biden on Sunday applauded the willingness of lawmakers to quote, reach across the aisle and call the effort a model for the challenging work ahead for our nation. He was also not an idle bystander in the negotiations. Yeah, he kind of was.
00:42:24.000 Mr. Biden on December 2nd threw his support behind the $900 billion plan being pushed by the centrist group.
00:42:30.000 The total was less than half of the $2 trillion that Pelosi and Schumer had been insisting on.
00:42:35.000 Yeah, I'm sure that Biden did throw his support behind that group, but what difference did that make?
00:42:39.000 I mean, as soon as the election was over, they were going to pass something, and Republicans had all the leverage because Republicans basically have nothing to lose at this point.
00:42:46.000 It wasn't like Republicans were going to lose the presidential election.
00:42:49.000 It's over at that point.
00:42:51.000 I love the New York Times.
00:42:52.000 But Biden's brave, guys.
00:42:53.000 Mr. Biden's move was not without risks.
00:42:55.000 If it had failed to affect the discussions, the president-elect risked looking powerless to move Congress before he had taken the oath of office.
00:43:00.000 But members of both parties said his intervention was constructive and gave Democrats the confidence to pull back on their demands.
00:43:07.000 So in other words, they're now suggesting that Joe Biden stepped in.
00:43:11.000 He said, I want something passed.
00:43:12.000 And so some of the more radical Democrats backed off.
00:43:14.000 And that was always going to happen.
00:43:16.000 Biden is not in control of his caucus.
00:43:18.000 OK, all that has happened here is that Biden recognized the reality and so did Democrats.
00:43:22.000 That is all that it doesn't matter.
00:43:23.000 Biden is the hero of the hour, even though he doesn't have any power.
00:43:27.000 It's amazing.
00:43:27.000 The New York Times is like, wow, what an amazing guy.
00:43:30.000 Michael Flynn should go to jail because he had an incoming conversation as incoming NSA with the Russians.
00:43:35.000 He should go to jail for that.
00:43:35.000 But Joe Biden is already impacting legislation, even though we are a solid month away from the inauguration in January.
00:43:42.000 Well done, everybody.
00:43:43.000 Okay, meanwhile, when it comes to COVID policy, Anthony Fauci is just saying things that I do not understand.
00:43:49.000 I seriously don't get it.
00:43:51.000 So Fauci has been suggesting that it's shutdown time.
00:43:54.000 Like across the country, we need lots more shutdowns.
00:43:56.000 We need to make sure that nobody travels during Christmas.
00:43:58.000 We need to make sure that if you get on a plane to be with your family, that's a really, really bad and dangerous thing.
00:44:02.000 Now, he is not calling for flights between the U.S.
00:44:05.000 and the U.K.
00:44:06.000 to close.
00:44:07.000 Now, the reason that people have been talking about this is because apparently a new COVID-19 mutation has been spreading in the U.K.
00:44:13.000 It is apparently up to 70% more transmissible than the original version.
00:44:18.000 Which is, I mean, this thing is pretty damn transmissible.
00:44:21.000 Right, so if you're talking 70% more transmissible, that basically means that you walk into a room with somebody, they breathe, and you get it.
00:44:27.000 And we know that it's broken out in the UK.
00:44:29.000 And already Fauci's like, we don't want internal Americans flying, like, from New York to LA or something.
00:44:35.000 And now he's like, you know what?
00:44:36.000 Maybe we shouldn't halt the travel from the UK.
00:44:38.000 How is he the expert?
00:44:42.000 Why?
00:44:43.000 I've talked to many people in the private sector, epidemiologists in the private sector, and many of them have said they do not get the worship for Fauci.
00:44:52.000 In fact, some of them were rather dismissive in the sense they said, well, he works for the public sector, which automatically means he's not as good as somebody who works in the private sector.
00:44:58.000 Like, if he were really good, he would be working for Pfizer.
00:45:00.000 He wouldn't be working for the NIH.
00:45:02.000 In any case, Fauci said yesterday that he would not shut down travel from the UK.
00:45:07.000 Which is like, what?
00:45:09.000 I don't understand.
00:45:10.000 He was saying that maybe it's because this strain is not more deadly than the strain that is currently in existence, or that the vaccinations are already rolling out.
00:45:18.000 Yes, but if everybody gets infected too fast for the vaccines, that's sort of the problem, right?
00:45:22.000 I thought that was the whole purpose of pushing these sort of time and place lockdowns.
00:45:25.000 In any case, here's Fauci saying something that is completely incoherent.
00:45:30.000 As researchers across the globe scramble to study the new variant, a growing number of countries have halted travel from the UK.
00:45:35.000 San Francisco and Santa Clara counties now require a 10-day quarantine upon arrival.
00:45:42.000 U.S.
00:45:42.000 officials still debating similar restrictions.
00:45:45.000 I think everything needs to be on the table.
00:45:47.000 Dr. Anthony Fauci advising against travel restrictions, telling CNN, the U.S.
00:45:52.000 must keep an eye on it, but don't overreact to it.
00:45:55.000 Um, what?
00:45:57.000 This is Captain Overreaction right here.
00:45:59.000 Like, he overreacts in every direction.
00:46:00.000 First it's like, no one should wear a mask.
00:46:02.000 Then it's like, everyone should wear a mask until the end of time.
00:46:04.000 First it's, you know, we should shut down everything.
00:46:06.000 Then it's like, well, we probably should open the schools.
00:46:08.000 And now it's like, well, we shouldn't shut down travel from China.
00:46:10.000 Well, I'm certainly glad we shut down travel from China, but we definitely shouldn't do it from the UK.
00:46:13.000 Like, what in the world?
00:46:15.000 What the hell is going on?
00:46:16.000 I am extremely, extremely confused by Anthony Fauci's view on this thing.
00:46:22.000 Meanwhile, to his credit, Joe Biden got the vaccine and he at least gave some credit to the Trump administration, which it seems like he should, considering that Operation Warp Speed is a Trump administration development.
00:46:32.000 I wish we had time to take you through the whole hospital when you see how busy and incredible you all are.
00:46:46.000 And, uh, we owe you big.
00:46:48.000 We really do.
00:46:50.000 And, uh, one of the things is that I think that, uh, the administration deserves some credit getting us off the ground with Operation Warp Speed.
00:47:00.000 Okay, so, you know, at least he's doing that.
00:47:01.000 Like, seriously, you give credit where credit is due.
00:47:03.000 I will give credit to Joe Biden for giving credit to Trump.
00:47:05.000 That is correct.
00:47:06.000 That is something that he should do.
00:47:07.000 Mitch McConnell also was vaccinated yesterday, and he said that the leaders of Congress should take the vaccine.
00:47:12.000 I mean, number one, they should take the vaccine because they're all 97 years old.
00:47:15.000 Like, Mitch McConnell is a rather elderly gentleman.
00:47:17.000 Nancy Pelosi is an old lady.
00:47:19.000 Like, yes, we should.
00:47:20.000 Yes, those people should be taking the vaccine.
00:47:21.000 I'm far more skeptical that people like Alexander Ocasio-Cortez should be taking the vaccine.
00:47:26.000 Here's McConnell talking about receiving the COVID vaccine yesterday.
00:47:30.000 I think it's important for the leaders in the country to step up, take the vaccine and help reassure the American public because polls indicate about half the public is either skeptical about taking the vaccine or doesn't want to take it at all.
00:47:44.000 That has to change because we can't solve this problem until large numbers of Americans are vaccinated.
00:47:51.000 As a polio victim myself, I fully understand the significance of vaccines.
00:47:57.000 It took decades to develop the polio vaccine.
00:48:01.000 This vaccine was developed in under a year.
00:48:04.000 A modern medical miracle.
00:48:07.000 And we need to take the vaccine.
00:48:10.000 Okay, McConnell should take the vaccine.
00:48:11.000 I'll tell you who should not be taking the vaccine is the young and healthy in Congress.
00:48:13.000 They're not more special than you.
00:48:14.000 They're not more special than I am.
00:48:15.000 They're not more special than anybody.
00:48:17.000 I don't understand what just because they're elected officials does not mean they should receive the vaccine first.
00:48:22.000 I don't know what's up with today's show, but this is the, like, agree-with-people-who-I-absolutely-despise show.
00:48:26.000 Ilhan Omar actually said something correct, right?
00:48:29.000 She actually went after other members of the squad.
00:48:31.000 She said it would make sense if it was age.
00:48:34.000 She's talking about members of Congress getting the vaccine.
00:48:37.000 She said it would make sense if it was age.
00:48:38.000 Unfortunately, it's of importance and it's shameful.
00:48:41.000 We are not more important than frontline workers, teachers, etc., who are making sacrifices every day, which is why I won't take it.
00:48:46.000 People who need it most should get it.
00:48:47.000 Full stop.
00:48:49.000 Wow, again, one of the worst people I know making an excellent point.
00:48:53.000 This actually happens to be correct.
00:48:55.000 Tulsi Gabbard said the same thing, by the way.
00:48:57.000 She said, I'm not going to take the COVID vaccine before the feds let the elderly take it.
00:48:59.000 That's just ridiculous.
00:49:00.000 Here's Tulsi Gabbard yesterday.
00:49:02.000 Members of Congress like me, we can get the vaccine before at-risk seniors can.
00:49:08.000 People like my aunt, who is imprisoned in her own home because of the danger that if she catches the disease, she could die.
00:49:17.000 This is immoral and bad health policy.
00:49:22.000 I had planned to take the vaccine but will now stand in solidarity with our seniors by not doing so until they can.
00:49:31.000 Okay, points to Tulsi Gabbard.
00:49:33.000 She happens to be absolutely correct about all this.
00:49:36.000 Okay, final piece of news before we break for the day.
00:49:38.000 So, Bill Barr, the Attorney General, he did say yesterday that he's not going to appoint an election special counsel to investigate voter fraud because he's not seen any credible allegations of widespread voter fraud.
00:49:47.000 Now, for all the crap that Bill Barr has taken from the left, this guy has at least tried to be honest.
00:49:51.000 I mean, this is right.
00:49:53.000 This happens to be correct.
00:49:54.000 If there had been widespread allegations of voter fraud in these states, it all would have been adjudicated in the court.
00:49:59.000 You know, again, there were cases brought.
00:50:01.000 The only one that I'm aware of that made serious allegations of voter fraud, it's still being adjudicated right now, are the ones in Georgia.
00:50:06.000 In many of these states, the Trump campaign did not even claim there was massive voter fraud.
00:50:10.000 That's, for example, Wisconsin.
00:50:11.000 The Pennsylvania cases did not allege massive voter fraud.
00:50:13.000 Here's Bill Barr saying there won't be a special counsel to investigate the election.
00:50:17.000 In other words, we're done here legally.
00:50:20.000 I think to the extent that there's an investigation, I think that it's being handled responsibly and professionally currently within the department.
00:50:31.000 And to this point, I have not seen a reason to appoint a special counsel, and I have no plan to do so before I leave.
00:50:39.000 OK, and not only that, this, I think, is worthy of note.
00:50:42.000 So Newsmax, which had really been pushing very hard a lot of these allegations of voter fraud and voter irregularities, Sidney Powell unleashed the Kraken on Newsmax when she was talking.
00:50:49.000 The former Trump lawyer and maybe future Trump lawyer had been talking about releasing the Kraken and all of this kind of stuff.
00:50:55.000 Well, now she said all that on Newsmax.
00:50:58.000 Newsmax kind of went along with it, particularly when it came to Dominion, because her Kraken was the Dominion, these voting machines that were hackable and all of this.
00:51:05.000 Well, Dominion sent a legal notice to Newsmax, and they said, we are going to sue you out of existence.
00:51:09.000 We were not hacked.
00:51:11.000 There are no serious allegations we were hacked.
00:51:13.000 Smartmatic software is not even on our machines.
00:51:15.000 We don't know what the hell you're talking about.
00:51:16.000 So you're going to have to retract that.
00:51:18.000 This led to this huge walkback by Newsmax yesterday.
00:51:22.000 Newsmax has found no evidence that either Dominion or Smartmatic owns the other or has any business association with each other.
00:51:31.000 We have no evidence that Dominion uses Smartmatic software or vice versa.
00:51:36.000 No evidence has been offered that Dominion or Smartmatic use software or reprogram software that manipulated votes in the 2020 election.
00:51:45.000 Smartmatic has stated that its software was only used in the 2020 election in Los Angeles, was not used in any battleground state contested by the Trump campaign.
00:51:54.000 Newsmax has no evidence to the contrary.
00:51:57.000 Okay, so just, that's a quick note.
00:51:59.000 Even Newsmax is saying that at this point, which means that Bill Barr...
00:52:02.000 That's Newsmax.
00:52:03.000 And again, Newsmax ain't in the business of prosecutions.
00:52:06.000 Then, you know, take Bill Barr and his comments somewhat seriously.
00:52:10.000 All righty, right after the show today, head on over to Michael Knowles.
00:52:12.000 He'll be discussing the COVID relief bill in more detail as well as actor George Takei suggesting that Republicans shouldn't receive the vaccine.
00:52:19.000 Later today, Matt Walsh, host of The Matt Walsh Show, he will be guest hosting this show's two additional hours of content.
00:52:23.000 Make sure to come tune in for that as well.
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