The Ben Shapiro Show - A Failed Rebellion In Russia?!

00:00:00.000 So no one knows what the hell is going on in Russia.

00:00:02.000 Like, really, no one knows what the hell is going on.

00:00:04.000 So, there is a group, it is called the Wagner Group, and the Wagner Group is run by a former Putin ally named Yevgeny Prigozhin.

00:00:12.000 They're a group of mercenaries, like 50,000 strong at minimum, and they have embedded themselves with the Russian military all over the place, and they have sort of an independent mercenary body all over the continent of Africa.

00:00:24.000 Well, over the weekend, there was a move that was made by the head of the Wagner group, Prigozhin.

00:00:29.000 He claimed originally that the Russian military had attacked the Wagner group, and then he said, we are going to march on Moscow.

00:00:37.000 Which is wild stuff, and everyone freaked out.

00:00:40.000 For a brief moment in time, there was this very weird moment where the entire media, which recognized that the Wagner Group is indeed a human rights violating, essentially, terror group sponsored by Russia, They suddenly flipped because Purgosian was marching against Putin and suddenly these became the good guys for a hot second, which is really absurd on its face because Purgosian is one of the worst people in the world. 0.53

00:01:00.000 Vladimir Putin also one of the worst people in the world.

00:01:02.000 None of these people are wonderful people. 1.00

00:01:03.000 They're all murderers. 1.00

00:01:04.000 They're all thugs. 0.99

00:01:05.000 Purgosian is a person who began his career being convicted of a wide variety of crimes up to and including the trafficking of minor women. 0.82

00:01:16.000 And then he worked his way up from being a person who ran a hot dog stand to being the chief caterer to the Russian government, which is basically just a crony job from Putin to Prigozhin.

00:01:27.000 And Putin was very happy to have the Wagner group doing a lot of the dirty work that even the Russian military was not willing to do.

00:01:32.000 Well, suddenly Prigozhin turned on him and it looked for a minute as though there was going to be a full-on civil war in Russia over the weekend.

00:01:38.000 According to the Washington Post, for the moment, things now appear to be calming down as the forces answering to Prigozhin, the Wagner group chief, have halted their march toward Moscow and turned around.

00:01:46.000 The development came after an agreement between Prigozhin and Putin was brokered by Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko, according to Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov.

00:01:54.000 Criminal charges had previously been brought, like almost immediately, started against Prigozhin. 0.96

00:01:58.000 They had suggested that treason was in the offing.

00:02:01.000 So according to the Washington Post, Prigozhin had been a fervent supporter of Russia's war in Ukraine, which makes sense since he was making a lot of money off of it.

00:02:07.000 He was in charge of the Russian private military contractor known as the Wagner Group.

00:02:11.000 Prigozhin had played a central role in the war, first by deploying his mercenaries on the front lines and later by recruiting heavily from prisons to bolster Moscow's depleted forces.

00:02:18.000 He led the onslaught in Bakhmut, which culminated in Putin declaring the city under Russian control.

00:02:22.000 That was the first significant territorial gain since last summer.

00:02:25.000 He also was the financier of the so-called Internet Research Agency, which was the Russian troll farm that Democrats blamed for overturning the supposed Hillary pro-result of the 2016 election.

00:02:36.000 So there's a lot of question over how all of this began. 0.94

00:02:39.000 Apparently, Purgoshin was very angry because Viktor Shoigu, who is the military defense chief over in the Kremlin, was doing a really crappy job, as evidenced by the fact that Russia was getting its ass kicked all around Ukraine by a much smaller country with more advanced military weaponry, it should be said.

00:02:54.000 Ukraine, because it is funded by NATO and because its weapons are from NATO, their military was actually significantly more technologically advanced than the Russian military, which in some cases was apparently using World War II-era weaponry.

00:03:05.000 Prokhorin accused Russian generals of stonewalling ammunition requests and as a result blamed them for his fighters dying in heaps in Ukraine.

00:03:12.000 Now, it turns out that may not be in fact the case.

00:03:14.000 It may be that he was getting the ammo and then he was just stockpiling it in case he decided to actually march on Moscow.

00:03:19.000 Again, Shoigu is in direct conflict with Prokhorin.

00:03:22.000 Shoygu recently decreed that he wanted the Wagner Group to be formally admitted into the Russian military and absorbed by the Russian military, and Prigozhin said that the Wagner Group would not sign.

00:03:32.000 Meanwhile, there was a call by Prigozhin to actually use the firing squad on Valery Gerasimov, who is the chief of the Russian General Staff.

00:03:41.000 Prigozhin was angry because Gerasimov was made overall commander of the war in Ukraine.

00:03:46.000 So, he said he took control of the main Russian military command base in the southern region of Rostov and then told two Russian military commanders he would blockade Rostov and send his forces to Moscow unless he could directly confront Shoiguru and Gerasimov.

00:03:58.000 And then he called for Russians to join Wagner against Shoigu and Gerasimov.

00:04:01.000 He accused the pair of lying about the war in Ukraine and undercounting the casualties.

00:04:04.000 He said, it's not a military coup, it is a march of justice.

00:04:07.000 This was his original claim.

00:04:09.000 and a video started emerging of Wagner mercenaries taking over a Russian city as

00:04:15.000 essentially Pugosian declared that he was in open rebellion against Putin.

00:04:18.000 You can see the Wagner group, which is military, armed military uniforms, taking over this Russian city.

00:04:31.000 The original kind of take was that Putin was going to put this thing down with force, that this was going to be knocked to the ground with prejudice.

00:04:38.000 But instead, Putin cut a deal.

00:04:40.000 Apparently, he wanted to avoid outright bloodshed between the Russian military and the Wagner group.

00:04:44.000 In fact, there was talk that he actually called in another sort of mercenary group, this time from Chechnya, in order to put down the Wagner group, which would have been a real problem for Putin.

00:04:52.000 If he had to call in the Chechenians in order to fight this thing, that makes him look unbelievably weak.

00:04:56.000 The agreement from Prigoshin's forces to turn around was brokered by the Belarusian president, who was trying to keep, presumably, the entire country from falling into a complete civil war and chaos.

00:05:06.000 Meanwhile, the Ukrainians are in a sort of celebration mode.

00:05:10.000 Vladimir Zelensky said in an evening address on Saturday, the events in Russia show, quote, the bosses of Russia do not control anything.

00:05:15.000 And that has been sort of the general take, is that this is just a demonstration of how weak Putin is internally.

00:05:20.000 Now, that may very well be true, is that Putin is weaker internally than he has been any time during his 23 year rule.

00:05:26.000 of the Kremlin.

00:05:27.000 With that said, what comes next is anybody's guess, because chaos in a nuclear-armed nation with something like 2,500 nuclear warheads, and with a lot of weapons floating around, and lying right next to Europe, that could be a disaster all on its own.

00:05:42.000 We'll get to more on this in just one second.

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00:06:46.000 Okay, so.

00:06:47.000 All of this is somewhat reminiscent of a failed coup attempt back in 1991.

00:06:51.000 And it's important to sort of know your Russian history because very often things that start off as coup attempts actually turn out to be counter-coups.

00:06:57.000 So that's essentially what happened in 1991.

00:07:00.000 Basically, you will remember if you know your history, Mikhail Gorbachev declared that the Soviet Union was essentially going to break up.

00:07:06.000 And in 1991, Gorbachev was actually placed under house arrest in his home in Crimea.

00:07:11.000 And the heads of the KGB, Interior Ministry, and the Armed Forces, together with his Vice President, Prime Minister, and a bunch of other Communist Party officials, tried to roll back the political and economic reforms and to stop the signing of the so-called Union Treaty, which would have essentially dissolved the Soviet Union by handing a bunch of authority back to the republics.

00:07:27.000 They declared themselves the State Committee on the State of Emergency.

00:07:30.000 This is according, of course, to the Center for European Reform.

00:07:35.000 And then as soon as this happened, there was a second coup, because while Gorbachev was being held incommunicado, that's when Boris Yeltsin, who was a very wild and drunken character, but he was the president of the Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic, which was the biggest Soviet republic, He coordinated a resistance to the first coup.

00:07:52.000 This is when he rode in on the tanks and essentially put down the coup.

00:07:56.000 But in putting down the coup, he also essentially deposed Gorbachev and became leader of the country.

00:08:00.000 So you just never know what's going to happen when situations like this arise.

00:08:03.000 And chaos inside Russia is not anything that I think anyone should be rooting for simply because you don't know the outcome.

00:08:08.000 People say, well, it's got to be better than Putin.

00:08:10.000 Well, let me introduce you to Russian history where whatever was supposed to be better is generally worse. 0.92

00:08:15.000 According to the Wall Street Journal, Fighters from the Wagner paramilitary group led by Prigozhin seized on Saturday two Russian cities they were rolling toward Moscow for that confrontation, but the agreement and tentative truce staved off the possibility that anger over the handling of the war in Ukraine could spark an actual civil war.

00:08:31.000 According to the Wall Street Journal, the very sight of armed men in Russian cities calling for the removal of Moscow's military command shows how a war that was meant to achieve regime change in Ukraine could actually threaten the regime in Russia by harnessing deep anger over the failures of the country's political and military leadership.

00:08:45.000 Constantine Sonin, a professor at the University of Chicago said, quote, Putin's biggest miscalculation is he started a war based on a completely inadequate understanding about the world, about his army, about Ukraine.

00:08:53.000 He kept making miscalculations every day by not stopping the war.

00:08:57.000 All the fighters who took part in the uprising are supposed to be amnestied, but it's unclear what's actually going to happen with the Wagner group more broadly at this point.

00:09:05.000 I mean, number one, this could be the first of many plots.

00:09:08.000 If it turns out that you can lead a plot against Putin and your basic punishment is everybody who was with you gets pardoned and you get sent to Belarus, I assume with a very large check.

00:09:16.000 I would assume that Pugosian didn't just go away because he decided to be a nice guy that day.

00:09:22.000 As the Wall Street Journal points out, it is absolutely unclear what happens next.

00:09:27.000 Putin and his top generals would have had time to prepare.

00:09:30.000 If the march had continued all the way into Moscow, and presumably, Purgosian would have lost.

00:09:36.000 But this does lead to the question of what happens if somebody from inside the Kremlin, not somebody from outside the Kremlin, somebody from inside the Kremlin attempts to topple Putin and he has the help of somebody like Purgosian from the outside.

00:09:49.000 Colin Clarke writing for the Sufan Group, an intelligence and security consulting group in New York City, writing for Politico.

00:09:54.000 He points out that this doesn't just have ramifications for Russia.

00:09:57.000 Internally, it also has some pretty significant ramifications for the Wagner Group.

00:10:01.000 Before the Wagner offensive was called off, he says Putin turned to Chechen strongman Ramshan Kadyrov for assistance, with the latter dispatching his own mercenaries to help quell the rebellion.

00:10:09.000 That Chechen forces had to come to the rescue of the Kremlin is ironic in its own right, but it also signals something more troubling for the longer-term prospects of Putin's rule.

00:10:16.000 Even with the Wagner uprising temporarily quelled, the brazen nature of the assault will probably lead to problems elsewhere, both at home in Russia, but also for its sphere of influence around the world.

00:10:25.000 So what exactly is going to happen with the Wagner Group?

00:10:26.000 Well now, the Wagner Group has been, in some cases, integrated into the Russian military.

00:10:30.000 And Prigozhin himself has been exiled to Belarus.

00:10:33.000 So what exactly is going to happen in Africa?

00:10:35.000 Now that could be a net positive for the West.

00:10:36.000 It's a real opportunity for the West.

00:10:37.000 The Wagner Group has been Putin's arm in Syria, for example.

00:10:40.000 It's been Putin's arm in Africa. 0.57

00:10:43.000 As this columnist for Politico points out, Wagner's presence in Africa and the Middle East is supposed to catch 22 for the countries where it operates.

00:10:49.000 Although its forces are invited into stabilized, fragile states, its actions usually invite further instability.

00:10:54.000 If Wagner withdraws, there's a serious threat to some of the regimes that depend on it for security and protection.

00:10:58.000 So theoretically, this could broaden the Western sphere of influence and it could end up being of net benefit, even though the Wagner group, which was supposed to be Putin's opposition, is going to end up essentially being crushed in its attempts here.

00:11:09.000 But it's almost impossible to read what is happening here from the outside.

00:11:15.000 By the way, there's heavy Russian sentiment on behalf of Prigozhin.

00:11:17.000 In fact, Prigozhin was being fist-bumped on his way out of Moscow.

00:11:21.000 Civilians were fist-bumping him because they were happy that he was at least fighting against the continuation of the Ukraine war.

00:11:26.000 Here's some of that footage.

00:11:28.000 I mean, he's like literally fist-bumping people on his way out of Moscow.

00:11:40.000 Woooo! 1.00

00:11:42.000 So a lot of proponents of the Ukraine war are pointing out that this sort of pressure is what is causing the chaos inside of Russia.

00:11:48.000 It's this sort of pressure that is causing the chaos inside of Russia and therefore the war in Ukraine should continue.

00:11:53.000 That is one way to read it.

00:11:55.000 That is a perfectly logical way to read this.

00:11:57.000 Another way to read this that is also perfectly logical is you don't know what's happening in a nuclear-armed state and that's not great.

00:12:04.000 The best available situation would be an off-ramp so that the war stops, Ukraine maintains the vast majority of its gains, and maybe even more than that, and things go back to status quo ante. 0.81

00:12:14.000 Because is Purgosian... If he had won, let's put it this way, if Purgosian had won and taken over, would things have gotten wildly better?

00:12:20.000 Again, Purgosian himself is one of the scariest people alive.

00:12:25.000 I mean, he is a lifelong criminal, an oligarch, who is now loaded thanks to Vladimir Putin.

00:12:34.000 According to CBS News, his work running a catering company with Kremlin contacts earned him the name Putin Chef, but he long denied any connection to the Wagner Group, then he admitted to being its founder last year.

00:12:44.000 Progozhin is currently wanted by the FBI for conspiracy to defraud the United States.

00:12:49.000 There's a $250,000 reward for information leading to his arrest.

00:12:53.000 So, it's a mess over there and we're going to have to see what comes next over there as well, obviously.

00:12:58.000 Okay, meanwhile, there's a mess on the home front with regards to the Biden administration.

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00:14:06.000 Okay, closer to home, chaos has now broken out inside the White House over the whistleblower allegations that not only was Hunter working with Joe, but that he literally sent a text to a Chinese magnate telling him to send him money now because Joe was sitting next to him.

00:14:22.000 This is a July 30th, 2017 WhatsApp message from Hunter Biden to Henry Hsiao.

00:14:27.000 And, um, the text, as we talked about last week, is insane.

00:14:30.000 The text says, quote, I am sitting here with my father.

00:14:32.000 We would like to understand why the commitment made has not been fulfilled.

00:14:35.000 Tell the director I would like to resolve this now before it gets out of hand, and now means tonight.

00:14:39.000 And Z, if I get a call or text from anyone involved in this other than you, Zhang, or the chairman, I will make certain that between the man sitting next to me and every person he knows, and my ability to forever hold a grudge, that you will regret not following my direction.

00:14:51.000 I am sitting here waiting for the call with my father.

00:14:55.000 Well, that's not good because again, you'll recall that Joe Biden has spent years denying that he knew anything whatsoever about Hunter Biden's business arrangements, which of course was obviously false.

00:15:04.000 I mean, he was squaring Hunter around on Air Force Two.

00:15:06.000 Hunter was flying to China with Joe Biden in order to cut these deals in China.

00:15:10.000 So obviously that was untrue.

00:15:12.000 Hunter's attorney attempting to cover for Joe says that this has nothing to do with Joe Biden.

00:15:17.000 Chris Clark, released a statement in which he said that the text was, well, Hunter was addicted to hard drugs.

00:15:24.000 And so all of the words were solely his own and not connected to President Joe Biden.

00:15:28.000 Quote, after an extensive five long year investigation conducted by the DOJ concluded this week, it resulted in my client taking responsibility for two instances of misdemeanor failure to file tax payments, as well as a firearm charge, which would be subject to a pretrial diversion agreement.

00:15:42.000 As an attorney, throughout this entire matter, I can say any suggestion the investigation was not thorough or cut corners or cut my client any slack is preposterous and deeply irresponsible.

00:15:49.000 What would you imagine Hunter Biden's lawyer is going to say?

00:15:52.000 So the DOJ investigation covered a period which was a time of turmoil and addiction

00:15:55.000 for my client.

00:15:56.000 I do love the fact that there is this beautiful situation for Hunter Biden where he gets to

00:16:02.000 One, he fills out a form that says he's able to own a gun because he is not addicted to drugs.

00:16:08.000 This is a gun felony.

00:16:09.000 He's essentially let off the hook for this because he was on drugs.

00:16:12.000 Then the drugs are now an excuse for a text that is obviously perfectly legible, makes perfect sense, in which he is invoking his father, the former vice president of the United States, sitting next to him to create a pressure campaign to have $5.1 million wired to him.

00:16:28.000 But it's all the drugs.

00:16:29.000 It's all the drugs are a hell of an excuse.

00:16:32.000 According to his lawyer, however, any verifiable words or actions of my clients in the midst of a horrible addiction are solely his own and have no connection to anyone in his family, which is weird because Joe Biden, we know, was in Delaware at the time in the house with Hunter when all of this was happening.

00:16:45.000 There are literally pictures contemporaneously of both of them at the house the same day.

00:16:50.000 Biased and politically motivated selective elites have plagued this matter for years.

00:16:53.000 They're not only irresponsible, they are illegal.

00:16:55.000 A close examination of the document released yet publicly yesterday by a very biased individual raises serious questions over whether it is what he claims it to be.

00:17:02.000 It is dangerously misleading to make any conclusions or inferences based on this document, says Hunter Biden's attorney.

00:17:07.000 Then the White House put out a statement as well.

00:17:09.000 Quote, as we have said many times before, the president was not in business with his son.

00:17:13.000 Wow, that is a shift in language, is it not?

00:17:16.000 Notice how careful that language is.

00:17:18.000 The president was not in business with his son.

00:17:19.000 Wait, hold up.

00:17:21.000 First you said he knew literally nothing about anything that Hunter was doing with his business.

00:17:25.000 That's a pretty dramatic shift, is it not?

00:17:27.000 If I say I know nothing about what goes on at this company, and then I go to, well, I'm not running the company.

00:17:34.000 That's a fairly dramatic shift.

00:17:36.000 I mean, that basically says that you were lying before.

00:17:39.000 You perfectly knew what Hunter was doing.

00:17:41.000 Now you're just saying that you were not in business.

00:17:43.000 But even that is vague.

00:17:44.000 What does it mean to be in business with his son?

00:17:45.000 Does that mean that they had a formal business arrangement worked out?

00:17:48.000 Or does it mean that he was just sitting there informally while Hunter was picking up bags of cash?

00:17:53.000 That is really lawyerly language.

00:17:55.000 As we have said many times before, the president was not in business with his son.

00:17:58.000 That's really technical, right?

00:17:59.000 Like, I'm in business with my business partners.

00:18:01.000 I'm in business with our advertisers, their contracts.

00:18:04.000 Am I, like, in business with various friends and family members that I see, like, every single day?

00:18:12.000 And where we will occasionally, you know, go out and buy dinner?

00:18:16.000 Or even where we have, like, small business arrangements.

00:18:19.000 Is that in business with people?

00:18:21.000 Technically, we would inform an LLC, for example.

00:18:24.000 If I pay somebody for something on Zelle, are we in business together?

00:18:29.000 Not clear that that's the case.

00:18:30.000 As we've also said many times before, the Justice Department makes decisions in its criminal investigations independently.

00:18:35.000 In this case, the White House has not been involved, says the White House.

00:18:38.000 As the president has said, he loves his son and is proud of him, accepting responsibility for his actions and is proud of what he is doing to rebuild his life.

00:18:45.000 Well, originally he said he was proud of him because he's just an amazing person.

00:18:48.000 Now it's that he's proud that he's rebuilding his life and all of that.

00:18:51.000 So this broke out into the open when reporters actually shockingly started doing their job on Friday.

00:18:56.000 So Corinne Jean-Pierre was asked repeatedly over Hunter Biden's text message, and she gets very, very, very angry about it.

00:19:06.000 Curly wouldn't answer James's question, though.

00:19:08.000 Are you going to answer the question?

00:19:10.000 Not a reasonable question to ask when the President of the United States was involved, as this message seems to suggest, in some sort of coercive conversation for business dealings by his son.

00:19:20.000 Is that something, if he wasn't, then maybe you should tell us.

00:19:23.000 So here's the thing, and I appreciate the question.

00:19:25.000 I believe my colleague at the White House Counsel has answered this question already, has dealt with this, has made it very clear.

00:19:33.000 I just don't have anything to share outside of what my colleagues have shared, and so I would refer you to him and the DOJ.

00:19:40.000 Just not going to comment from here.

00:19:44.000 What I can tell you is I know that my colleague has dealt with this.

00:19:47.000 He addressed this at the White House Council.

00:19:50.000 I just don't have anything else to share.

00:19:53.000 I just answered the question.

00:19:54.000 I just answered the question.

00:19:59.000 Stephen, Stephen, I just answered the question.

00:20:01.000 I just said, I just, this isn't, it's not up to you how I answer the question.

00:20:06.000 Wow.

00:20:07.000 Wow.

00:20:07.000 It's a very simple question, and she is avoiding it.

00:20:09.000 She avoided it, by the way, for solidly four minutes.

00:20:11.000 And she's not the only one who avoided it, and so did John Kirby, the national security spokesperson.

00:20:15.000 We'll get to that momentarily.

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00:21:30.000 Okay, so it wasn't just Karine Jean-Pierre trying to avoid questions about Hunter Biden's Amazingly dispositive texts.

00:21:38.000 I mean, if those texts are in any way legitimate, that means that not only is Joe Biden lying when he says he didn't know what was going on with the business, he's lying now when he says they weren't in business together.

00:21:48.000 In any case, James Rosen of Newsmax, a recent guest on the program, he asked John Kirby of the National Security Spokesperson's Office about Hunter's texts, and Kirby gets very, very upset.

00:21:59.000 A July 2017 WhatsApp message sent by Hunter Biden to Henry Zhao, a Chinese Communist Party official.

00:22:09.000 Which stated, in its entirety, and I quote, I am sitting here with my father, and we would like to understand why the commitment made has not been fulfilled.

00:22:18.000 Tell the director that I would like to resolve this now, before it gets out of hand, and now means tonight.

00:22:23.000 And Z, if I get a call or a text from anyone involved in this other than you, Zhang, or the chairman, I will make certain that between the man sitting next to me, and every person he knows, and my ability to forever hold a grudge, that you will regret not following my direction. I am

00:22:39.000 sitting here waiting for the call with my father." So just a couple of questions about this. First,

00:22:45.000 does this not undermine the president's claim during the 2020 campaign and the reaffirmations

00:22:52.000 of that claim by his two press secretaries since then that he never once discussed

00:22:57.000 his son's overseas business dealings with him? No, and I'm not going to comment further on this.

00:23:01.000 James, James, let me just, let me save you some, let me save, let me save, let me save

00:23:08.000 you some breath if you're going to ask about this. I'm,

00:23:11.000 I am not addressing, I don't, I know you do, more than I'd like you to have.

00:23:16.000 I am not going to address this issue from this podium.

00:23:18.000 I'm just not going to do it.

00:23:20.000 He says there that James Rosen has more breath than he would like him to have, so I don't even know what that's supposed to mean.

00:23:25.000 Exactly.

00:23:26.000 Meanwhile, you're apparently not even supposed to ask questions about Hunter Biden, given that Hunter Biden is a routine guest with the president all around the world.

00:23:33.000 He's literally flying with him on a routine basis at this point.

00:23:35.000 He showed up at a state dinner the other night with the Indian delegation, and a reporter asked about it, and Kareem Jean-Pierre got very, very mad.

00:23:43.000 The President invited his son, Hunter, to the state dinner last night.

00:23:46.000 I'm wondering if you could take us into the thinking and decision-making of why the President decided to invite him.

00:23:52.000 I'm just not going to get into family discussion, personal family discussion.

00:23:55.000 As you know, Hunter is his son.

00:23:57.000 I'm just not going to get into it.

00:23:58.000 Let me ask you this.

00:23:59.000 If Hunter Biden wasn't the President's son, would he have invited someone who had just reached a plea agreement with federal prosecutors two days earlier?

00:24:05.000 Well, a couple of things.

00:24:07.000 Again, that's his son.

00:24:08.000 He's a family member.

00:24:10.000 It is not uncommon for family members to attend.

00:24:13.000 This is gaslighting in the highest order.

00:24:25.000 It is not natural for the President of the United States, in the midst of suspicions of corruption, to invite not only Hunter but also his brother James, both of whom are involved in this shakedown routine with foreign sources pouring money into them because they are associated with Joe.

00:24:38.000 It is not normal to have those people to the White House.

00:24:40.000 I mean, Hunter, this week, pled guilty to misdemeanor charges and had to take a diversion program to gun charge.

00:24:47.000 And Joe's got him right there.

00:24:47.000 So there are only a couple of things that could be going on there.

00:24:49.000 One is, Joe really does not care what you think.

00:24:52.000 He does not care. 1.00

00:24:53.000 He is willing to be as overt about all of this, as blatant as possible, because like most politicians, he's stupid enough to believe he'll never get caught. 0.99

00:25:00.000 That's possibility number one. 0.91

00:25:01.000 The other possibility, and again, these are not mutually exclusive, is that Joe is physically dependent on Hunter at this point, which may very well be the case.

00:25:07.000 I mean, we know that just a few months ago, when Joe was in Ireland, this is back in May, Hunter was sleeping in a cot in Joe's room.

00:25:16.000 Which suggests that essentially, Hunter is now responsible for his father's physical care.

00:25:20.000 So you have a situation in which one of the most corrupt, disgusting people in American politics, Hunter Biden, is not only at his father's side, he's providing him direct physical care while there are corruption allegations that are a-brewing about Hunter and Joe.

00:25:34.000 Is that a good thing?

00:25:36.000 It's amazing to watch the media immediately shift into defense mode here, by the way.

00:25:39.000 Here, for example, is MSNBC legal analyst Barbara McQuaid dismissing this text as absolutely meaningless.

00:25:44.000 Who cares?

00:25:45.000 Barbara, the whistleblower testimony, though, is from two IRS agents who say that the DOJ and other government officials improperly interfered in their Hunter Biden investigation, giving Hunter Biden preferential treatment.

00:25:58.000 There's been a lot of pushback against that.

00:26:00.000 It was a Trump appointee.

00:26:02.000 A U.S. 0.66

00:26:02.000 attorney was held over. 0.66

00:26:04.000 It was kept outside of DOJ.

00:26:06.000 But what do you think about that?

00:26:07.000 And we have not verified it.

00:26:09.000 It's based on a WhatsApp.

00:26:11.000 We don't know the verification of that.

00:26:13.000 We don't know whether Hunter was exaggerating when he talked to someone, if it was he, if it's authentic, when he said, my father's here with me.

00:26:20.000 And it was when Joe Biden was not in office, in between the vice presidency and the presidency.

00:26:27.000 Yes, I read that statement and I find it to be awfully flimsy on which to build any sort of an investigation.

00:26:33.000 It just simply is some sort of puffery by Barbara Biden.

00:26:37.000 Okay, can we point out here that an entire Trump-Russia investigation was initiated on the basis of George Papadopoulos, a low-level Trump campaign official, saying a rumored thing to an Australian official abroad?

00:26:48.000 An entire campaign, a four year long campaign to destroy Donald Trump and his presidency.

00:26:53.000 That campaign was launched by a single stray comment from George Papadopoulos, not a text from Donald Trump Jr.

00:27:00.000 Not a text from Donald Trump Jr.

00:27:02.000 mentioning his father and corruption.

00:27:03.000 I mean, if you're talking about the pretext for an investigation, this is not flimsy in the way that, say, the Steele dossier was flimsy.

00:27:09.000 It's a direct text from Hunter Biden implicating his father in corruption.

00:27:13.000 I don't know how else to put it.

00:27:15.000 That's what this is.

00:27:16.000 And yet, they're out in force defending it.

00:27:17.000 It's amazing.

00:27:18.000 Nick Kristof has an entire piece of the New York Times titled, The Real Lesson from the Hunter Biden Saga.

00:27:22.000 What do you think the real lesson is?

00:27:24.000 I would think the real lesson is, don't let your son trot around the earth as a kept boy, essentially, picking up bags of cash from some of the most nefarious people on the planet while you are still politically involved.

00:27:34.000 Don't do that.

00:27:35.000 That would be the good lesson here.

00:27:36.000 But that's actually not the lesson Nick Kristof is going to put forward.

00:27:39.000 The lesson he's going to put forward is that Joe Biden is an amazing person.

00:27:44.000 While the federal investigation appears to be ongoing, for now I see no clear evidence of wrongdoing by President Biden himself.

00:27:49.000 But the president does offer the country a fine model of the love and support that people with

00:27:53.000 addictions need. Oh, Joe, oh, just can you see the amazing thing here? I mean, sure. Weird amounts of

00:28:00.000 money were making their way into the pockets of the entire Biden family, including Joe, like

00:28:04.000 unexplained sums of cash.

00:28:05.000 But the real thing here is that Joe just, he demonstrates love for Hunter.

00:28:09.000 He loves Hunter so much.

00:28:11.000 By the way, Hunter's illegitimate child, he doesn't love so much.

00:28:13.000 Hunter actually cut a deal with the stripper that he impregnated with his illegitimate child to never use the Biden last name for the child.

00:28:22.000 Which, by the way, can you imagine the cruelty of that?

00:28:25.000 You sire a child and then you say the one thing that would actually create a linkage and maybe the thing you've lived off of your entire life.

00:28:33.000 Hunter Biden has lived off his daddy's name the entire life.

00:28:35.000 The Biden family name is the cash in the Biden family.

00:28:38.000 So what is Hunter Biden's first move after he knocks up a stripper?

00:28:41.000 His first move is, when that baby is born, I want to strip that baby of the Biden name.

00:28:46.000 So the Biden name can't be on the birth certificate.

00:28:47.000 It's like an amazing, amazing thing.

00:28:49.000 That was cut last week, by the way.

00:28:51.000 But according to Nick Kristof, it's all because they're just wonderful people.

00:28:54.000 When Biden was vice president and trailed by Secret Service agents, he once tracked Hunter down when he was on a bender and refused to leave until his son committed to entering treatment.

00:29:00.000 Biden then gave his son a tight hug and promised to return to make sure he followed through.

00:29:05.000 Dad saved me, Hunter wrote in his memoir, Beautiful Things, adding, left on my own.

00:29:08.000 I'm certain I would not have survived.

00:29:10.000 On another occasion, the Biden family staged an intervention.

00:29:12.000 Hunter stormed out of the house.

00:29:13.000 Biden ran down the driveway after his son.

00:29:15.000 He grabbed me, swung me around, hugged me, Hunter wrote.

00:29:17.000 He held me tight in the dark and cried for the longest time.

00:29:20.000 Now, all of that may very well be true, but it's also true that your way of apparently helping your son is to enable him to the tune of millions of dollars using your name.

00:29:28.000 And apparently, if you believe any of Hunter Biden's text messages, I mean, there's stuff that was found on that laptop in which he openly suggests that he has been providing for the entire Biden family via these payoffs for years.

00:29:38.000 That should be the takeaway for the American people. 0.96

00:29:40.000 The takeaway for the American people isn't what a nice dad Joe is.

00:29:43.000 That may very well be true.

00:29:45.000 But the takeaway for the American people is, Daddy may very well be involved in a serious high-level corruption snafu, completely of his own making, like picking up bags of cash and Hunter using his name overtly with his knowledge.

00:29:58.000 That's wild.

00:29:58.000 That, by the way, is not the only allegation that exploded over the weekend.

00:30:02.000 Attorney General Merrick Garland said on Friday, That the Hunter Biden prosecutor was not stymied in any way.

00:30:07.000 The whistleblower, a guy named Gary Shapley of the IRS, had suggested that over and over again, the attorneys were interested in indicting Hunter Biden in a wide variety of cases, including felony cases, and that the AG's offices stepped in and basically stopped it.

00:30:21.000 Here's Merrick Garland denying.

00:30:42.000 As I said at the outset, Mr. Weiss, who was appointed by President Trump as the U.S.

00:30:48.000 Attorney in Delaware and assigned this matter during the previous administration, would be permitted to continue his investigation and to make a decision to prosecute Any way in which he wanted to and in any district in which he wanted to.

00:31:03.000 Mr. Weiss has since sent a letter to the House Judiciary Committee confirming that he had that authority.

00:31:10.000 I don't know how it would be possible for anybody to block him from bringing a prosecution given that he has this authority.

00:31:16.000 And he was never told no?

00:31:18.000 I'm saying he was given complete authority to make all decisions on his own.

00:31:23.000 Well, this was responded to by Gary Shapley.

00:31:25.000 His attorney put out a letter saying, quote, in October 7th, 2022 meeting at the Delaware US Attorney's Office, US

00:31:30.000 Attorney David Weiss told six witnesses he did not have authority to

00:31:33.000 charge in other districts and had thus requested special counsel status.

00:31:36.000 Those six witnesses include Baltimore FBI Special Agent in Charge Tom Sabacinski, Assistant Special Agent in Charge

00:31:41.000 Raisha Hawley, IRS Assistant Special Agent in Charge Gary Shapley, Special Agent in Charge Darrell Weldon, who also

00:31:47.000 independently and contemporaneously corroborated Mr. Shapley's account in an email, now public as Exhibit 10,

00:31:52.000 following page 148 of his testimony transcript.

00:31:54.000 Mr. Shapley would have no insight into why Mr. Weiss would make these statements at the October 7, 2022 meeting if they were false.

00:32:00.000 That Mr. White made these statements is easily corroborated.

00:32:02.000 It is up to him and the DOJ to reconcile the evidence of his October 7, 2022 statements with contrary statements by Weiss and the AG to Congress.

00:32:09.000 So in other words, either Garland lied or Weiss was lying to his own people when he said he sought special counsel status and then was rejected by the AG.

00:32:15.000 This is not going away.

00:32:16.000 And Corinne Jean-Pierre yelling at reporters is not going to make any of it go away.

00:32:21.000 What will be fascinating to see is if reporters demonstrate an ounce of the curiosity they did for just a moment in time on Friday.

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00:34:23.000 So the Democrats have won some pretty heady victories in the abortion arena since the overthrow of Roe v. Wade. 0.73

00:34:29.000 Republicans have won some victories in very red states, but there have been states like Kansas that enshrined abortion into the Constitution.

00:34:35.000 Michigan enshrined abortion in their Constitution as a reaction to the snapback law that took place in Kansas or in Michigan.

00:34:41.000 These snapback laws, as a matter of public policy, were a bad political move.

00:34:45.000 Not because they don't achieve something that I think is totally worthwhile, which is the protection of all human life from conception onward, but because they are not calibrated to actually achieve long-standing victory.

00:34:55.000 Instead, what you end up with is a snapback law that goes into place and bans all the abortion in, say, Kansas, and then the left immediately jumps into the fray and passes a constitutional amendment In reaction to that, when what would have been better off is steadily and slowly pushing back the deadline for abortion from 12 weeks to 10 weeks to eight weeks to six weeks.

00:35:15.000 Because there have been plenty of states that have done that successfully, including Georgia and now Florida as well.

00:35:19.000 Well, Democrats are very excited about talking Roe versus Wade because they think it means they don't have to talk about generally mutilating kids.

00:35:25.000 So in the one year anniversary, they trotted out Kamala Harris, the world's least charming and talented politician, in order to explain what's so important about the overthrow of Roe versus Wade.

00:35:35.000 So that day, the day that the Supreme Court took a constitutional right from the women of America, I was outraged.

00:35:42.000 In fact, the first person I called was my husband, because I could just let it all out with him.

00:35:48.000 And my first thoughts really were about our daughter, my niece, my baby nieces, my goddaughters, and what this all might mean.

00:35:58.000 And for our daughter, she is going to know fewer constitutional rights than my mother-in-law. 0.99

00:36:04.000 And so I think we all, at that moment, understood how dire it would be.

00:36:09.000 One year later, the majority of Americans are with us.

00:36:13.000 From so-called red states to blue states, from Kentucky to California, when this issue was on the ballot in the midterms, the people voted in favor of allowing Women to have the choice about what happens to their body. 1.00

00:36:29.000 So going forward, let's not throw up our hands.

00:36:33.000 Let's roll up our sleeves.

00:36:34.000 President Biden and I will not stop fighting.

00:36:38.000 Okay, so this is what they're going to try to run on come 2024.

00:36:40.000 Now, the Republican response has been to set forth what appeared to be pretty popular abortion restrictions.

00:36:47.000 So Mike Pence, who's the most pro-life of the candidates running, at least in terms of his rhetoric, he's called for a federal 15-week abortion ban.

00:36:54.000 That is going to be fairly plausible.

00:36:56.000 Most Americans are perfectly fine with banning abortion at 15 weeks, including in blue states, by the way.

00:37:01.000 So, the actual sort of, if you took the average American view of abortion, the average American view of abortion is something like, everything beyond 12 weeks should be banned, everything before 12 weeks, conditioned.

00:37:12.000 Right?

00:37:12.000 That really is sort of the average American view now.

00:37:14.000 The average doesn't make any sense because you have wildly disparate views ranging from mine saying that abortion is a form of killing from the point of conception all the way up to the far left view that abortion should be allowed all the way through point of birth and maybe beyond.

00:37:31.000 So that spectrum of opinion, you can't really average it because people have discrete opinions within that entire broad spectrum.

00:37:36.000 However, Democrats are going to run on the idea that Republicans want to ban all abortions nationally.

00:37:42.000 There's not a single Republican candidate who has posited that abortion on a national level can be banned.

00:37:48.000 Even Mike Pence, again, very pro-life.

00:37:49.000 He is proposing what I think is a smart policy, a 15-week abortion ban on the national, federal level. 0.71

00:37:54.000 And he's doing that because he knows that's acceptable to the broad range of the American public.

00:37:58.000 And when asked about it, what he'll say is, I'm in favor of protecting life from the very outset, but the American people can agree on 15 weeks.

00:38:05.000 And at the state level, there are going to be states that go way beyond that.

00:38:08.000 That is a perfectly appropriate position for Republicans.

00:38:10.000 State Republicans are going to have to figure out what line they take on the national level on this, because Democrats are going to run hard into the teeth of the abortion debate.

00:38:17.000 It's something they love.

00:38:18.000 That is when they're not attempting to undermine the Supreme Court entirely.

00:38:21.000 This is their latest big mission.

00:38:23.000 They've been trying to undermine the Supreme Court by first going after Clarence Thomas with false charges that he was essentially being bribed by a guy named Harlan Crow because he was friends with him to change his opinion in case it was a lie.

00:38:34.000 Then they tried to claim that Samuel Alito was being bribed by Paul Singer or something and that is a bunch of nonsense.

00:38:40.000 Now they're attempting to claim That actually Amy Coney Barrett is corrupt because she sold her house after she won her spot on the Supreme Court. 1.00

00:38:49.000 She sold her home to a recently hired Notre Dame professor who's assuming a leadership role at the Religious Liberty Initiative.

00:38:57.000 She, a Notre Dame professor, sold her house to another Notre Dame professor.

00:39:01.000 And this apparently was considered super, super bad by the left.

00:39:04.000 They're attempting to undermine the credibility of the Supreme Court as a whole as an electoral tool.

00:39:08.000 Whenever you hear the left talk about how it's the right that's undermining institutions, understand the left does not care about institutions unless it can weaponize those institutions for its own game.

00:39:16.000 They have no actual interest in preserving the credibility of institutions at all.

00:39:20.000 These are just tools they can wield at their disposal or destroy if need be.

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00:40:34.000 So things that I like today.

00:40:35.000 What's really funny right now is watching as Prince Harry and Meghan Markle just flame out.

00:40:41.000 It's really, really entertaining.

00:40:43.000 So they've been basically booted from Spotify because it turns out that they were a hoax and they had nothing to provide to the audience whatsoever other than sort of woke grievance mongering.

00:40:51.000 Well, now people are speaking out about how useless they were.

00:40:53.000 The Wall Street Journal has a long piece titled, Harry and Meghan produce a Hollywood flop themselves.

00:40:59.000 Prince Harry and Meghan Markle had been out of the UK for nearly two years when they began work on a project they believed could transform them from former royals to Hollywood power players.

00:41:08.000 The subject of endless rumors and gossip, the couple felt qualified to tackle the thorny topic of misinformation. 1.00

00:41:14.000 Oh, these woke idiots. 1.00

00:41:16.000 Misinformation. 1.00

00:41:17.000 Misinformation from Meghan Markle and Prince Harry.

00:41:21.000 Meghan Markle claimed she'd never heard of Prince Harry when she started dating him.

00:41:25.000 Mm-hmm.

00:41:26.000 Mm-hmm.

00:41:26.000 A documentary would cement Harry and Meghan as serious creative types and help shed their reputation as exiles from the House of Windsor trading family dirt for eyeballs.

00:41:34.000 A team assembled to the job at the pair's LA-based production company, Archwell, had questions for H&M as the Sussexes are known to their employees.

00:41:42.000 Would the misinformation project be a feature film or a series?

00:41:44.000 Who would host it?

00:41:45.000 Would it be historical or contemporary?

00:41:46.000 Would Harry or Meghan appear in it?

00:41:48.000 Would Meghan discuss her bitter history with the British tabloids?

00:41:50.000 And if not, who would want to watch?

00:41:52.000 The couple had few answers.

00:41:53.000 According to people familiar with the inner workings of Arshwell and Harry and Meghan's deal with streamers, the misinformation documentary soon met the fate of other Arshwell projects and faded away.

00:42:01.000 Well, yeah, because their basic idea was what if we just say slogans, right?

00:42:06.000 What if we just go to the In This House We lawn sign and just read the slogans but do it on film?

00:42:12.000 After all, this is what they've been rewarded for their entire life.

00:42:15.000 So why the hell not?

00:42:16.000 If you just nailed the woke nostrums, why couldn't that be a 90-minute documentary?

00:42:19.000 And they're like, well, guys, there's no market for that.

00:42:21.000 Like, well, we don't really have anything else.

00:42:23.000 Prince Harry and Meghan's Hollywood foray is looking like a flop.

00:42:26.000 They arrived in SoCal three years ago with Duke and Duchess titles and plans to capitalize on a cash-rich streaming business desperate for star power to lure subscribers.

00:42:34.000 They got a $100 million deal at Netflix.

00:42:36.000 They got a $20 million deal at Spotify.

00:42:37.000 They have led to more cancellations and rejections than actual produced shows.

00:42:42.000 So Prince Harry's memoir Spare became a bestseller, and then they had their garbage six-part documentary talking about how terrible their life is, and that was at least somewhat popular.

00:42:50.000 But then, they had a graveyard of projects, including an animated children's show called Pearl, canceled by Netflix, as well as at least two TV ideas that the streaming service rejected within the past year, people familiar with their project said.

00:43:01.000 Netflix is unlikely to renew the couple's deal, which runs through 2025.

00:43:06.000 The Spotify pact, meanwhile, produced a podcast, Archetypes, about these stereotypes that hold women back. 0.85

00:43:11.000 A second season was discussed, but eventually nixed.

00:43:14.000 And Bill Simmons points out that, like, behind closed doors, it was even more of a bleep show than it was publicly.

00:43:21.000 People who have worked with the pair say their Sussex-upon-sunset outpost was undermined by their inexperience as producer and trouble finding material consistent with their brand.

00:43:29.000 Well, I mean, that shouldn't be too hard.

00:43:31.000 Finding woke winers to create material? 0.95

00:43:34.000 That's like all of Hollywood.

00:43:36.000 But they say that the real problem is that they have no talent.

00:43:39.000 That would be the real problem.

00:43:41.000 When they struck deals with Netflix and Spotify in 2020, streaming services were booming.

00:43:45.000 Executives were rushing to secure content and feed consumer demand at any cost.

00:43:49.000 The Sussexes joined Barack Obama, Nobel Peace Prize laureate Malala Yousafzai, and others who fielded offers in Hollywood with few guidelines on what would come next.

00:43:58.000 And then it turns out that nope, it just completely fell apart.

00:44:03.000 The article goes on and on about their failures of projects, but basically, they had no plans.

00:44:10.000 Now, the Obamas have a similar deal.

00:44:12.000 The American form of royalty, Barack and Michelle Obama, they also have deals at Netflix and Spotify.

00:44:18.000 They have made movies like Leave the World Behind starring Julia Roberts, which I know you know, I know you saw it.

00:44:23.000 Oh wait, you didn't see it?

00:44:24.000 Because no one's heard of it.

00:44:26.000 Also, Kevin Hart's Fatherhood and a child-oriented show, Waffles and Mokie, and documentaries including American Factory.

00:44:32.000 Has anyone watched any of these things?

00:44:34.000 Like, are these things even out yet?

00:44:36.000 No one knows.

00:44:38.000 But the Obamas are not allowed to fail.

00:44:40.000 We don't care if Harry and Meghan fail.

00:44:42.000 So we will allow them to fail.

00:44:45.000 So what happens next for them? 0.99

00:44:47.000 Well, they're pretty screwed. 0.95

00:44:48.000 Because they've basically exiled themselves from their family. 0.99

00:44:51.000 They no longer have any dirt to spill.

00:44:54.000 And their first animated show was supposed to be about powerful women of history called Pearl.

00:44:59.000 It was created with the help of David Furnish, who knew the royal family through his husband, Elton John.

00:45:03.000 When the couple left the palace and signed the Netflix deal, Pearl was the first show announced, and then Netflix canceled it.

00:45:10.000 Executives decided no one would care if the show they were watching had been produced by a duchess.

00:45:13.000 So Harry and Meghan have burned it out, so not to be cynical, but look for the divorce proceeding sometime in the fairly near future.

00:45:20.000 Okay, time for a quick thing that I hate.

00:45:26.000 Hey, so we spoke about President Obama a little bit earlier, and he's having a lot of fun being a celebrity and making tens of millions of dollars for hanging out with his friends over at Netflix.

00:45:35.000 We did a sit-down interview with CNN's Christiane Amanpour in Greece.

00:45:39.000 Where he said he doesn't like the obscene inequality in the coverage of the missing Titanic sub, as opposed to the sinking of a migrant ship off the coast of Greece last week.

00:45:47.000 Now, I also pointed out, obviously, that there has been a discrepancy in coverage.

00:45:52.000 But I do not think that it is because of the so-called wealth gap that this is happening.

00:45:57.000 I think it's generally because we tend to follow whatever is sort of the shiny object of the day.

00:46:02.000 And it turns out that there's something fascinating about the horror story that happened last week.

00:46:06.000 But Barack Obama says, no, this is about income inequality.

00:46:09.000 It's about the poor.

00:46:10.000 It's about us ignoring the poor, he said from his palatial estate in Martha's Vineyard.

00:46:14.000 Now we have 24 hour coverage.

00:46:18.000 And I understand it, of this submarine, this submersible, that tragically is right now lost at the bottom of the sea.

00:46:31.000 At the same time, right here, just off the coast of Greece, we had 700 people dead, 700 migrants who were apparently being smuggled into here.

00:46:44.000 It's made news, but it's not dominating in the same way.

00:46:48.000 And in some ways it's indicative of the degree to which people's life chances have grown so disparate.

00:46:58.000 It's very hard to sustain a democracy when you have such massive concentrations of wealth.

00:47:04.000 Oh, communism is the answer to this. 0.56

00:47:06.000 If only we were communists and we distributed all the income, he said, from, um, from his, atop his giant pile of cash earned from making crap movies for Netflix that nobody has ever watched. 0.92

00:47:14.000 Barack Obama complaining about the gap between the elites and everybody else is really, really rich. 0.95

00:47:20.000 It's really rich.

00:47:20.000 I mean, literally rich.

00:47:21.000 That dude is wealthy.

00:47:22.000 And that dude is way wealthier than he was when he went into the White House.

00:47:27.000 There's something deeply perverse about becoming rich by becoming a politician.

00:47:30.000 Like, really perverse about it.

00:47:31.000 Barack Obama's net worth right now is, uh, what?

00:47:34.000 Let's check it out.

00:47:35.000 His net worth is, according to best estimates including Business Insider, $70 million.

00:47:40.000 Barack Obama.

00:47:41.000 Barack Obama's net worth in 2006, which is just about before he started his presidential run, was $799,000.

00:47:49.000 So just to be clear, he went from a net worth of $800,000 in 2006 to a net worth of $70 million in 2023, based solely on his access to political power and the media making him a star, and now he's complaining about income inequality.

00:48:04.000 Oh, it's so tiresome.

00:48:05.000 You know, he could give that money to charity right now.

00:48:07.000 He could.

00:48:08.000 He could go back to living the lifestyle of the less rich and less famous than he lived before, but he's kind of enjoying it, isn't he?

00:48:14.000 Alrighty, folks.

00:48:14.000 Coming up, we're going to get into the vaunted Ben Shapiro show at Mailbag, so stick around for that.

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The Ben Shapiro Show - June 26, 2023

A Failed Rebellion In Russia?!

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