The Ben Shapiro Show - A Society Without Men Is A Dying Society | Ep. 1382

00:00:00.000 The leftist culture war against traditional masculinity continues to gain steam as China takes a different path, and NBC News recommends you skip the turkey this Thanksgiving.

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00:01:36.000 Okay, so.

00:01:37.000 Very often on this show, we spend a lot of time on sort of the day-to-day political insanity that is breaking out across the nation.

00:01:44.000 But there are underlying trends in American politics that are really disturbing for the future of the country.

00:01:48.000 And maybe the most disturbing underlying trend in America right now is the substitution of radical subjectivity for basic objective truth.

00:01:55.000 What I mean by that is people tend to think that their truth matters more than the truth.

00:02:00.000 My truth matters more than the truth.

00:02:02.000 And once you make that stark division, Basically, your society is at an end because reality has certain dictates.

00:02:08.000 Reality requires that you live within its boundaries.

00:02:11.000 Reality means that you have to understand how the world works, how nature works, and then you have to adapt yourself to those realities.

00:02:19.000 Instead, as a society, we have decided to use every means at our disposal in order to reshape the reality around us, or at least what reality can do to us, in order to prevent that reality from intruding.

00:02:30.000 So when it comes to Everyday life we have set up systems whereby no one is allowed to criticize us if we are if we are criticized we get very Very upset and then we try to rig the system So no one can ever criticize us again if fact patterns emerge that threaten our view of the world we simply use the the bottlenecking Technologies at our disposal to prevent that sort of feedback loop from harming our interests and our narrative

00:02:54.000 So if a case, if a criminal case goes the way we don't want it to go, we simply have people on the TV repeat back to us what we want to hear as opposed to the reality of the situation.

00:03:03.000 When it comes to how we wish to live our lives, how we feel on the inside, this is supposed to matter an awful lot more than how reality matters.

00:03:09.000 And we are now using technology as sort of the all-purpose wonder drug.

00:03:13.000 So we're creating entire artificial realities where we can live completely free of reality itself.

00:03:19.000 There is a philosopher named Robert Nozick.

00:03:21.000 Robert Nozick is a libertarian philosopher and he once posited what he called the experience machine.

00:03:26.000 He said that most human beings are interested in freedom in the real world.

00:03:29.000 He said if you could be plugged into a machine, Where you spent all day experiencing the feeling that what you were doing was real, but where all of your activities simply resulted in success.

00:03:42.000 Would you do it?

00:03:43.000 And he posited no, because most people still want to live in the real world.

00:03:46.000 Most people want to feel like their work has real impact on other people.

00:03:50.000 I'm not so sure anymore.

00:03:51.000 I think that we have now created, if Karl Marx suggested that religion was the opiate of the mass, I think that we have created actual opiates in the form of online addiction, in the form of virtual realities, in the form of a media-created reality.

00:04:07.000 And we feed ourselves this drug that separates us off from the reality.

00:04:11.000 And we just have people reflect back at us what we want to hear.

00:04:14.000 I think a lot of people would plug into that experience machine now, that Robert Nozick experience machine.

00:04:18.000 They would give up their ability to affect real change in the real world in favor of a sort of solipsistic, drug-induced SOMA, virtual SOMA from Brave New World.

00:04:30.000 And that's really disturbing.

00:04:32.000 And I think that we have entire institutions that are built up around this.

00:04:35.000 We have institutions that cater to our every whim.

00:04:37.000 We have algorithms that tell us the stuff that we need.

00:04:40.000 And at no point are we ever confronted with the realities of the actual real world.

00:04:44.000 And when we are, we get insulted by those realities.

00:04:46.000 We get angry with those realities.

00:04:47.000 There's only one problem with this.

00:04:49.000 And that is reality wins anyway.

00:04:50.000 We can fight reality.

00:04:51.000 We can construct artificial realities.

00:04:53.000 We can create worlds in our own imagination.

00:04:56.000 And we can occupy those worlds with others who also wish to live in their own imagination.

00:04:59.000 We can all live inside Facebook's meta.

00:05:02.000 But that is not going to change the reality that for billions of people around the world, most people throughout human history and most people right now, those virtual realities not only don't exist, they are seen as spiritually enervating, as spiritually emptying, as counterproductive.

00:05:15.000 Civilizations that drug themselves into enervation lose.

00:05:18.000 And that is what we are watching right now.

00:05:20.000 According to the Washington Post, more U.S.

00:05:22.000 adults who do not already have kids say they are unlikely to ever have them.

00:05:26.000 This is according to a new Pew Research Study survey.

00:05:30.000 Findings that could draw renewed attention to the risks of declining birth rates for industrialized nations.

00:05:34.000 There's not a single industrialized nation in the West, I think the only exceptions are Georgia and Israel, that has a replacement-level birth rate, meaning at least two kids.

00:05:41.000 In order for your population to maintain, every two-parent household has to have two kids.

00:05:46.000 But in the United States, that number is more like 1-7.

00:05:48.000 In Italy, that number is like 1-2.

00:05:49.000 That means these populations are going to be dropping dramatically.

00:05:54.000 According to the Washington Post, experts are concerned that the U.S.

00:05:57.000 birth rate, which has declined for the sixth straight year, may not fuel enough population growth on its own to keep the future economy afloat and to fund social programs.

00:06:04.000 Women between the ages of 18 to 49 and men between 18 and 59, who said they are not parents, were asked the question, thinking about the future, how likely is it that you will have children someday?

00:06:13.000 In October, 26% of them said it is very likely, a six point drop from 2018, when 32% answered, very likely.

00:06:21.000 Meanwhile, the share of Americans who answered not too likely in 2021 grew to 21% compared to 16% in 2018.

00:06:28.000 So we now have near parity between the number of Americans who say that it is very likely that they will have kids and not too likely that they will have kids.

00:06:37.000 When asked why they don't want to have kids, 56% of childless adults who said it is not at all or not too likely they will ever have kids said it's because they just don't want them.

00:06:46.000 That's a change from 2018, when 63% of childless adults in those categories said it was because they had no desire for children.

00:06:52.000 This time around, 43% cited other reasons, including medical issues, economic or financial reasons, lack of partner.

00:06:59.000 The bottom line is that this is part of a broad-scale trend in the West.

00:07:02.000 People just don't want kids.

00:07:03.000 And the reason people don't want kids is because they don't live in the real world.

00:07:07.000 They live in a world in which the government takes care of all their future problems.

00:07:10.000 All of the incentives, why you used to have kids, are basically gone in the West.

00:07:14.000 So the reasons you used to have kids, for example, or you needed child labor to work your farm.

00:07:19.000 Okay.

00:07:19.000 Thank God that is no longer an issue.

00:07:21.000 Then it was, well, you want the spiritual connection that you get from your kids.

00:07:25.000 And then we decided to kill spirituality.

00:07:28.000 And then the idea was you had a moral obligation to have kids.

00:07:30.000 And then we said, no, no, no.

00:07:31.000 You have a moral obligation not to have kids because your kids are going to ruin the earth.

00:07:35.000 And then we said, well, you know, at the very least we need to have kids because who's going to pay for us in our old age.

00:07:40.000 And the idea is, well, the government will pay for us in our old age.

00:07:42.000 The government has endless reams of cash.

00:07:43.000 So it doesn't matter.

00:07:45.000 So what is the incentive structure outside of the religious communities to have kids?

00:07:49.000 And the answer is there is none.

00:07:50.000 Which means the only people who are going to be having kids are the people who are not engaged in this sort of solipsistic, self-obsessed, navel-gazing, you know, where do I vacation with my small dog this week?

00:08:01.000 The only people who are going to be having kids in the United States, and in the West generally, are religious people. 0.79

00:08:05.000 And this is what the stats show.

00:08:07.000 Every religious community in the United States is reproducing at above replacement rates.

00:08:10.000 Every secular, atheistic, agnostic community is having kids at below replacement rates. 0.63

00:08:16.000 So if you're a fan of secular liberalism, I gotta ask you, what do you think your future is?

00:08:20.000 Really, how do you think that that's going to reflect?

00:08:22.000 Could it be that the secular liberalism, disconnected from the root values that created the space for liberalism to arise in the first place, has been self-defeating?

00:08:31.000 Is it possible that when you cut off the roots of the tree, the tree just dies?

00:08:35.000 When you get rid of the moral precepts that allowed for a sphere of freedom to emerge in the West, that the freedom itself kills the tree?

00:08:43.000 Is that possible?

00:08:43.000 Because that seems to be what we're watching in real time.

00:08:47.000 That freedom, unbound from morality, unbound from reality, because morality and reality are related in this sort of teleological old philosophical sense.

00:08:55.000 If you get rid of that, if you say that there's just fact patterns and freedom, all you end up with is libertinism.

00:09:01.000 And that's where we are in a society.

00:09:02.000 I define myself how I want.

00:09:04.000 You have to, you have to confirm how I define myself if reality hits me in the face.

00:09:09.000 That's not reality hitting me in the face.

00:09:10.000 We have to construct systems to insulate me from reality, so I don't have to make good decisions anymore.

00:09:14.000 I don't have to make the decisions that lead to success.

00:09:17.000 I don't have to make the decisions that lead to a future for my country or for my family.

00:09:21.000 In April, the Census Bureau reported that in the last decade, the U.S.

00:09:24.000 population grew at the second slowest rate for any 10-year period since the nation's founding.

00:09:29.000 Pew surveyed 3,800 parents and non-parents online in late October as part of a broader study of nearly 10,000 U.S.

00:09:34.000 adults known as the American Trends Panel Survey.

00:09:37.000 Those who said they have no kids were asked to rate their desire to have them in the future.

00:09:40.000 Adults who said they already have kids were asked to rate their likelihood of having more.

00:09:44.000 There is no difference based on gender in the responses among parents and non-parents.

00:09:47.000 According to Pew, men and women are equally likely to say they will probably not have kids or more kids in the future.

00:09:53.000 There was a difference based on age.

00:09:54.000 Adults in their 40s were far more likely than younger adults to say they're unlikely to have any or more kids in the future, which of course makes sense. 1.00

00:09:59.000 The older you get, the harder it is to have kids.

00:10:01.000 What's striking there is the lack of difference between men and women in their view of having kids.

00:10:06.000 Typically speaking, you would imagine that women would be more interested in having kids than men. 0.85

00:10:11.000 Just because, historically speaking, this has been the case.

00:10:14.000 And by the way, when it comes to poll data, I'm still not sure that that is reflective of how normal people act.

00:10:20.000 What I mean by that is there are a lot of people who say they don't want to have kids, and then women have kids, and then they want to take time out from the workforce to spend with their kids.

00:10:26.000 How people act is very different than what they are asked in polls.

00:10:29.000 However, what the demographic rates show is that we are a society in decline.

00:10:34.000 In massive decline.

00:10:36.000 And we are also a society that is in decline because we have decided to make our people genderless widgets. 0.99

00:10:40.000 Men and women are exactly the same. 0.96

00:10:42.000 In fact, they are so the same that men can become women and women can become men.

00:10:46.000 Gender makes no difference at all. 0.97

00:10:47.000 Sex makes no difference at all. 0.79

00:10:48.000 And to point out that sex makes a rather large difference in how the world works is to be labeled some sort of bigot.

00:10:55.000 Even though the fundamental basis of a civilization that is growing is a recognition of the difference between men and women. 0.99

00:11:01.000 Because literally all human growth, all human reproductive capacity is based on sexual dichotomy between men and women. 0.51

00:11:08.000 And recognizing that the differences between men and women are not only important but very beautiful and very wonderful.

00:11:12.000 But we're a society that has decided that the apex of being a man is not to be a protector and guardian and provider for your family.

00:11:20.000 It is to basically sit home, play video games, and tweet out the latest hashtag.

00:11:25.000 And the apotheosis of femininity is not to have kids and to raise them in conjunction with your husband. 1.00

00:11:30.000 Instead, the apotheosis is to work 2200 billable hours as a paralegal at the local law firm.

00:11:35.000 I'm sorry, that is not a civilization that has a future.

00:11:38.000 It is not.

00:11:39.000 That is not to say that women can't do those things and have kids. 1.00

00:11:41.000 They can.

00:11:42.000 My dad stayed home.

00:11:42.000 My mom worked.

00:11:44.000 My wife is a doctor.

00:11:45.000 Okay, it is to say that the fundamental root of civilization has to recognize the massive and important differences between men and women, or men will not be men, and civilization will fall, and women will not be women, and people will not reproduce.

00:11:58.000 And that is what we are seeing right now.

00:12:00.000 And the media are pushing this.

00:12:01.000 Okay, let's just face this.

00:12:03.000 I know that we're not supposed to talk about these things.

00:12:03.000 Serious fact.

00:12:05.000 There are major differences between men and women.

00:12:07.000 These differences range from the biological, everything from height to muscle capacity, to how the brain works.

00:12:15.000 These are very different between men and women, and they were meant to be. 1.00

00:12:18.000 This is a good thing.

00:12:20.000 It's not just true for humans, true for all mammals.

00:12:23.000 All mammals are rooted in sexual dichotomy.

00:12:25.000 To pretend that that doesn't exist, and to, as a culture, attempt to fight that is an attempt to fight reality.

00:12:30.000 Reality's gonna win.

00:12:32.000 When I say reality's gonna win, I mean there are other civilizations that are not delusional United States is delusional.

00:12:36.000 The way the Western civilization has decided to buy into the mass delusion of a sort of Cartesian duality between the genderless spirit and the sexed body.

00:12:46.000 That is not reality.

00:12:47.000 That is not how the world works.

00:12:49.000 You are an integrated being.

00:12:51.000 Your spirit and your body are one.

00:12:53.000 They work together.

00:12:55.000 This belief that you are sort of a floating ghost in the machine has not been true forever.

00:13:01.000 And it wasn't true when Descartes wrote about it.

00:13:04.000 But we have convinced ourselves of this phantasmic chimera, and it is not going to end well for us.

00:13:11.000 In a second, we'll get to some of the differences between men and women that are quite important, and then we'll talk about why it is that we are, as a society, failing.

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00:14:21.000 Okay, so there are these vast differences between men and women.

00:14:23.000 These are very durable.

00:14:24.000 We've known about them forever.

00:14:26.000 A good paper by Yana Weisberg from the Department of Psychology in Linfield College and Collins Young, University of Minnesota Department of Psychology, Jacob Hirsch, University of Toronto.

00:14:37.000 This is from a few years back, 2011, from Frontline Psychology, talking about the differences between men and women.

00:14:43.000 There are these personality traits called the Big Five personality traits, and these are very durable psychological findings.

00:14:48.000 There are major differences between men and women in many of the personality traits that are expected to be present in human beings.

00:14:55.000 So, for example, neuroticism.

00:14:57.000 Neuroticism describes the tendency to experience negative emotion and related processes in response to perceived threat and punishment.

00:15:03.000 These include anxiety, depression, anger, self-consciousness, and emotional ability.

00:15:07.000 Women generally score higher than men on neuroticism, as measured at the Big Five trait level.

00:15:12.000 Additionally, women also score higher than men on related measures not specifically designed to measure the Big Five, like indices of anxiety and low self-esteem.

00:15:19.000 Men tend to get more angry.

00:15:21.000 And so, women tend to be more neurotic in the Big Five, and men tend to get more angry within this category, which makes sense. 0.79

00:15:28.000 Men are more aggressive.

00:15:29.000 Women tend to worry more about the details. 1.00

00:15:31.000 Again, this is not true for every woman or every man.

00:15:32.000 We are talking about on average.

00:15:34.000 These on average differences make a very large difference in how we as a society treat maleness and femaleness.

00:15:40.000 When it comes to agreeableness, women consistently score higher than men on agreeableness and related measures, such as tender-mindedness, which of course makes sense.

00:15:49.000 This would be altruism, empathy, kindness.

00:15:51.000 By the way, you can see this in job selection.

00:15:52.000 Women tend to select jobs where they have interpersonal contact reliant on empathy. 1.00

00:15:56.000 Men tend to like machines.

00:15:59.000 There's a reason for this.

00:16:00.000 Because biologically speaking, women tend to be maternal in instinct, and men tend to be protective or aggressive in instinct.

00:16:09.000 When it comes to conscientiousness, there's no marked difference between men and women, or at least not a durable one, across cultures.

00:16:15.000 When it comes to extroversion, assertiveness, sociability, positive emotionality, gender differences are small on the overall domain level of extroversion.

00:16:24.000 Women typically score a little bit higher, but that's because women score higher on warmth, gregariousness, and positive emotions. 0.99

00:16:31.000 Men score higher on assertiveness and excitement-seeking, right?

00:16:33.000 Men are more risk-taking. 0.55

00:16:35.000 This has been proved by pretty much every psychological study.

00:16:38.000 Men, again, tend to be more aggressive.

00:16:40.000 And when it comes to openness and intellect, which reflects imagination, creativity, intellectual curiosity, and appreciation of aesthetic experiences, there are no significant gender differences typically found on openness or intellect.

00:16:52.000 Women typically score higher on aesthetics and feelings. 0.95

00:16:55.000 Men tend to score higher on the ideas facet.

00:16:58.000 Again, a lot of this seems stereotypical, but it is also rooted in biological difference between genders.

00:17:05.000 Hey, why is all of this important?

00:17:06.000 The reason that all of this is important is because when we as a society sublimate reality in favor of a peculiar vision that all men and all women are genderless, what we end up with is a society that does not reproduce, that does not see responsibility in a serious way.

00:17:21.000 We are not paving the way for true human flourishing.

00:17:24.000 There's a lot of talk in philosophy about human flourishing, what that constitutes.

00:17:28.000 What does it mean to flourish as a human being?

00:17:30.000 So from the Marxist perspective, human flourishing, basically the predicate to it is material well-being.

00:17:35.000 You have to make sure that you have enough stuff, you have to make sure that you're taken care of, and then we will all flourish.

00:17:40.000 It is the notion that a Marxist society will breed a society of artists and innovators This is what Nancy Pelosi says when it comes to job lock, right?

00:17:50.000 Get rid of job lock, create a better welfare state, and society will flourish forth.

00:17:53.000 Then there's a vision of human flourishing that suggests that human flourishing is about the cultivation of particular individual goods, meaning you cultivate friendship or you cultivate virtue.

00:18:06.000 That's sort of a more ancient idea.

00:18:08.000 I think.

00:18:08.000 And when it comes to human flourishing, I think this is the Judeo-Christian worldview as well.

00:18:12.000 I also think that it tends to be backed by evolutionary biology.

00:18:14.000 Human beings are essentially tools. 0.99

00:18:16.000 We are the Swiss army knife of the creatures.

00:18:18.000 There's something that Brett and Heather Weinstein, Brett Weinstein and Heather Hying talk about in their book on evolutionary biology.

00:18:25.000 Both of them are evolutionary biologists.

00:18:27.000 The basic idea is that human beings are really good at adaptation.

00:18:29.000 That's what we are good for.

00:18:30.000 And what that means is that because we are a Swiss army knife, we fulfill particular roles.

00:18:34.000 Some of those roles include learners, Creative forces in the world, right?

00:18:38.000 We as human beings have an instinct to create.

00:18:41.000 Protectors, which typically tends to fall more on men.

00:18:45.000 Guardians and parents.

00:18:48.000 Maternal influences tends to fall more on women. 0.99

00:18:52.000 And there are sexed roles. 0.92

00:18:53.000 There are some that are less sexed, and then there are some that are more sexed.

00:18:57.000 To ignore gender differences in roles is to, as a society, defeat yourself.

00:19:01.000 To pretend, for example, that men and women have an equal duty to serve in armed forces cuts against virtually all of human history and also basic biology.

00:19:10.000 Not to suggest that female soldiers can't do an amazing job. 1.00

00:19:14.000 Many of them do.

00:19:15.000 But, if you are on a battlefield and you're about to fight a battle, what you would like is an army of- if you have to pick between an army entirely of men and an army entirely of women, you're gonna pick an army entirely of men.

00:19:24.000 They have greater physical capacity, they tend to follow orders a little bit better according to sociological studies, and they tend to be more aggressive.

00:19:31.000 Again, that's not to demean women in any way.

00:19:32.000 There are things that women are much better at than men.

00:19:35.000 But all of society rests on these foundational principles.

00:19:38.000 And failing to recognize the true beauty and difference between men and women leads to a society where men are told that they don't need to be men, which, by the way, makes room for actual toxic masculinity, and women are told that they shouldn't be women in any way, which leads to a sort of genderless apathy about the future of the human race.

00:19:58.000 This is a problem.

00:19:59.000 When women don't want to have kids, and when men don't want to defend their families or feel an obligation to do so, societies end. 0.99

00:20:05.000 And other societies that actually recognize realities don't end.

00:20:09.000 They just continue on.

00:20:10.000 They reproduce.

00:20:11.000 They have kids.

00:20:12.000 They bring up those kids in healthier ways.

00:20:15.000 And when I say healthier, I don't mean ways that we would approve of.

00:20:17.000 I mean ways that propagate their societies, their civilizations.

00:20:21.000 Healthier on almost an objective metric level.

00:20:24.000 And when that happens, societies begin to crumble.

00:20:27.000 That's what we're watching here in the West.

00:20:30.000 I bring this up because there's an article in Politico today that's quite fascinating, all about why Republicans can't stop talking about masculinity.

00:20:37.000 And the answer is, maybe when you tell men, young men particularly, they have no role in our society.

00:20:42.000 When you tell a society that risk taking is bad, aggressiveness is bad, the meritocracy is bad, you end up undermining the society.

00:20:49.000 And when you tell women, That women ought not have kids. 1.00

00:20:52.000 That abortion is the highest good. 0.98

00:20:54.000 You end up with a society that is completely crazy.

00:20:57.000 A society removed from reality.

00:20:58.000 Well, here's the thing.

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00:21:01.000 Reality's gonna come for all of us.

00:21:02.000 We'll get to more of this in just one second.

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00:22:22.000 Okay, so, if my theory, and I think the theory of evolutionary biology is correct, that human flourishing rests in fulfillment of particular roles that human beings are good at fulfilling and that are durable across cultures.

00:22:32.000 Roles like father, roles like protector, roles like mother, roles like empathizer.

00:22:37.000 Roles like community member, right?

00:22:39.000 If you are designed to fulfill a bunch of roles over the course of your life, right?

00:22:43.000 And like many roles, you're not one role.

00:22:45.000 You're not just a dad.

00:22:46.000 You're not just a brother, right?

00:22:48.000 You're not just a protector.

00:22:49.000 You're not just a creative force.

00:22:50.000 You're all of these things.

00:22:51.000 You're not just a mom. 0.68

00:22:52.000 You're not just a sister.

00:22:53.000 You're not just somebody who's involved in your community.

00:22:55.000 You're all of these things.

00:22:56.000 If we as a society boil ourselves, our identities down to one thing, We flatten out human existence and human flourishing becomes impossible.

00:23:03.000 So if we boil ourselves down to, for example, just creators of economic product, that is one aspect of human flourishing.

00:23:09.000 It is not the only aspect of human flourishing.

00:23:11.000 And if that comes at the expense of us making the decisions that allow us to flourish in all these other ways, society falls apart.

00:23:16.000 You can have really high GDP and also a crumbling society.

00:23:19.000 Similarly, if we flatten ourselves out to only our sexual instinct, which used to be sublimated to role fulfillment, right?

00:23:26.000 The sexual instinct used to be sublimated to a broader role.

00:23:29.000 It wasn't just you had a sexual instinct.

00:23:31.000 It was that sexual instinct was supposed to come in the context of a marriage that produced children and healthy upbringing and provided the impetus for you to become a protector for your family and to become a maternal influence with your mom.

00:23:44.000 These things were very important.

00:23:45.000 When you separate that off and you basically say your genitals are you, Or your genital pleasure is you? 0.52

00:23:51.000 If you say that, you have flattened out humanity to its thinnest veneer.

00:23:57.000 And as a society, human flourishing becomes nearly impossible.

00:24:00.000 This is why masculinity and femininity matters. 1.00

00:24:03.000 This is why it matters when you are told the lie, and when your kids are indoctrinated in the lie, that gender is entirely malleable, and that it's not important, and that if you mention that it's important, it's really bad.

00:24:13.000 Hey, so there's an article in Politico today trying to take this on, okay?

00:24:17.000 It's an article, a Q&A with historian Kristin Cobes-Dumez on Josh Hawley, JD Vance, and why manhood seems to be such a big topic on the right today.

00:24:25.000 The answer is, of course, because you have millions of dispossessed young men who have been told they have no role in society.

00:24:30.000 You want a healthy society?

00:24:31.000 You want healthy young men? 0.66

00:24:32.000 Give them responsibility.

00:24:34.000 Give them duty.

00:24:35.000 Tell them they have a role in the world.

00:24:37.000 As a society, we've told men they don't have a role in the world. 0.67

00:24:40.000 In fact, we've told women that their roles and male roles are exactly the same. 0.99

00:24:45.000 And we have told men that if they insist on roles as father and protector, this is somehow degrading to women, which of course is idiotic. 1.00

00:24:54.000 Idiotic. 1.00

00:24:56.000 According to Politico, Republican lawmakers and hopefuls seem particularly interested in the idea of masculinity lately. 1.00

00:25:01.000 In a TV interview earlier this month, Missouri Senator Josh Hawley claimed the left was telling men their masculinity is inherently problematic.

00:25:07.000 That's true.

00:25:08.000 He also told interviewer Mike Allen he would make masculinity a signature political issue.

00:25:12.000 Because the pre-political basis of all human society is the family.

00:25:12.000 Why?

00:25:16.000 You know what's really important in families?

00:25:19.000 A dad who's a provider and a protector.

00:25:19.000 Masculinity.

00:25:22.000 That is very, very important.

00:25:23.000 It is true in all human societies of which I am aware.

00:25:27.000 Holly's comments sounded similar to those of Representative Madison Cawthorn of North Carolina, who went viral last month in a video calling on mothers to raise their sons to be monsters.

00:25:34.000 What he meant by that, of course, was the sort of Jordan Peterson notion that men are monsters and you have to use that aggression in positive ways.

00:25:41.000 Not that women should raise men or... 1.00

00:25:45.000 In order to be aggressively evil, but that men are aggressive.

00:25:49.000 That aggression can be channeled in defense of self and others, or it can be channeled in horrifying directions, which is what you've largely seen in American society.

00:25:56.000 Men channeling their aggression toward violence, or channeling their aggression toward drug use, or channeling, or just being enervated completely because their mission has been taken away from them.

00:26:06.000 Vance tweeted that the Rittenhouse trial filled him with indescribable rage, said we leave our boys without fathers, we let the wolves set fire to their communities, and when human nature tells them to go and defend what no one else is defending, we bring the full weight of the state and the global monopolist against them.

00:26:19.000 Okay, so here's Politico's objection.

00:26:21.000 According to historian, Cristian Cobes Dumez, this way of talking about masculinity has its roots in conservative evangelical spaces, but it's going mainstream.

00:26:30.000 Dumez wrote a book last year called Jesus and John Wayne, how white evangelicals corrupted a faith and fractured a nation.

00:26:35.000 About how the model of masculinity in evangelicalism went from emulating the qualities of Jesus to emulating those of the actor John Wayne, and how that has shaped culture and politics ever since.

00:26:44.000 Well, who's to say that the values of Jesus and the values of John Wayne are in direct conflict?

00:26:48.000 Why?

00:26:49.000 The whole idea of John Wayne as a character is that he was an honorable man who was out defending hearth, home, and society.

00:26:56.000 And sometimes on the edge of the law in order to do so.

00:27:00.000 Dumetz says, within conservative evangelical spaces, first of all, there's the idea that masculinity is a God-given thing.

00:27:05.000 Okay, that's not just the idea of conservative evangelicals, by the way.

00:27:09.000 That masculinity is a God-given thing.

00:27:10.000 It's a biology-given thing.

00:27:12.000 I'm sorry to break it to secular liberals, but masculinity is baked into the cake. 0.94

00:27:17.000 That is not just a question of God making it that way.

00:27:21.000 Although, as a religious person, I believe he did.

00:27:22.000 I believe male and female, he created them.

00:27:24.000 But I think that's a reflection of basic human biology.

00:27:27.000 And by the way, all mammalian biology.

00:27:30.000 But, says Cristian Cobes Dumez, when Hawley is talking about an attack on men and saying the left is attacking manhood and that they hate this country and don't believe in gender, all of that sounds very familiar.

00:27:38.000 In white evangelicalism, this has been a refrain for decades now.

00:27:41.000 By the way, try again.

00:27:42.000 This has not been a refrain for decades now.

00:27:43.000 This has been a refrain since the Bible.

00:27:46.000 The Bible has explicit bans.

00:27:48.000 I mean, I'm rather familiar with the first five books.

00:27:50.000 The Bible has explicit bans on men dressing as women and women dressing as men, for example.

00:27:56.000 says this quote-unquote scholar, in evangelical spaces, Christian manhood has long been equated, particularly in conservative circles, with a kind of rugged, militant quality.

00:28:04.000 It's not just about rugged and militant.

00:28:06.000 That's not what it's about.

00:28:08.000 It's about, what is your role?

00:28:09.000 What roles are you fulfilling?

00:28:10.000 When you remove roles from men, and tell them the roles are bad.

00:28:13.000 When you say marriage is bad, and fatherhood is bad, and you don't need a dad, and you don't need a, and you don't need protectors, and you don't need, soldiers are bad, cops are, when you say this sort of stuff, you remove all place for male aggression to go.

00:28:23.000 By the way, male aggression is gonna go exactly those places in other societies.

00:28:27.000 It just ain't gonna go there here.

00:28:29.000 You can remove the masculinity from the West, but you can't remove the masculinity from the world.

00:28:33.000 And if you remove the masculinity from the West, the West will crumble.

00:28:36.000 There are other forces out there that do not give a bleep.

00:28:39.000 They don't care.

00:28:40.000 But says this scholar, this is a kind of reactionary masculinity that emerges in the 1960s and 70s in conservative evangelical spaces, and more broadly, in American conservatism.

00:28:50.000 The context here is important.

00:28:51.000 Coming out of the post-war era, there was a baby boom.

00:28:54.000 Traditional family values were all the rage, at least among the white middle class.

00:28:57.000 Well, no, they were all the rage among everybody.

00:28:59.000 During the baby boom, the black single motherhood rate was below 20%.

00:29:03.000 Today, it's above 70%.

00:29:04.000 Then you have this disruptive moment in the 1960s, says this writer.

00:29:07.000 You have the civil rights movement, which is particularly disruptive in the American South to the status quo.

00:29:11.000 You have the early feminist wave and second wave feminism of the 60s, and very importantly, the Vietnam War and the anti-war movement.

00:29:17.000 All of these are seen to destabilize the social order.

00:29:19.000 Conservatives are particularly concerned.

00:29:21.000 In all three of these cases, it's the assertion of white patriarchal authority or power that can restore order.

00:29:26.000 And to understand, the revolutionary forces that want to tear down gender, what she's saying, the implicit understanding of what she's saying, the revolutionary forces that wish to destroy the institutions of the United States, are focused on tearing down masculinity as a pathway to doing so.

00:29:43.000 That is part and parcel of this.

00:29:44.000 Because if you have men who are willing to defend those institutions, then the institutions won't fall.

00:29:51.000 So she says that the assertion of traditional masculinity would have been against, for example, the Civil Rights Movement.

00:29:56.000 That's weird, because it seems to me that there are plenty of good, powerful, strong men who are standing up in favor of the Civil Rights Movement.

00:30:03.000 I was unaware that it was enervated hippies who were leading the Civil Rights Movement, as opposed to strong, powerful men and strong, powerful women, all of whom were gendered at the time, because we're talking about the 60s, not the 1990s and not the 2010s, who were leading that movement.

00:30:17.000 The inherent Feminization of powerful civil rights movement is pretty astonishing. 0.75

00:30:22.000 I mean, I think you'd be very hard pressed to make the case that either Martin Luther King Jr.

00:30:26.000 or Malcolm X were effeminate men.

00:30:28.000 That's a very difficult case to make.

00:30:31.000 But says Dumas, I think that this language is becoming more useful in the wake of the Trump years.

00:30:36.000 There's a lot of history, particularly of Republicans unfavorably comparing Democratic men and masculinity against a stronger, more rugged American manhood.

00:30:42.000 It kind of had a resurgence during the Obama presidency.

00:30:44.000 It was very popular for Republicans to impugn his masculinity and to question his manhood and his strength.

00:30:50.000 Okay, well, I never questioned Barack Obama's manhood.

00:30:52.000 He's a father with kids, which to me is the mark of a true man.

00:30:57.000 I questioned his assertiveness in foreign policy.

00:30:59.000 I questioned his policy priorities, which seemed to me not to foment the kind of aggressiveness and masculinity and risk-taking that you need as a natural society, which brings us to where we are in terms of policy today.

00:31:11.000 Because it's not just a question of degrading men to the level of the genderless.

00:31:16.000 It's also a question of, as a society, do you get rid of masculine values like risk-taking?

00:31:19.000 Risk-taking tends to be a more masculine value.

00:31:22.000 Do you get rid of those values in favor of a broader value of empathy as a society?

00:31:28.000 And if you do, what does that do to society?

00:31:31.000 And the answer is, it destroys your society.

00:31:33.000 Because when you get rid of the risk-taking, when you get rid of the innovation, when you get rid of the harsh realities that both provide the incentive for risk-taking but also punish stupid risk-taking, then you end up with a society that is completely stagnant.

00:31:46.000 Which is why, for example, the University of California is now deciding that in favor of empathy, they're going to get rid of standards, and innovation, and risk-taking, and reality.

00:31:56.000 Reality must be shielded.

00:31:58.000 You have to shield yourself from reality.

00:31:59.000 So for the foreseeable future, there's no standardized testing for the University of California.

00:32:04.000 Because minorities weren't getting in at the rates that the UC wanted them to get in.

00:32:04.000 Why?

00:32:08.000 So they just got rid of the standardized test.

00:32:11.000 Which, by the way, is kind of racist. 0.63

00:32:12.000 Because the idea is that black people apparently can't do well enough on tests in order to be admitted. 0.75

00:32:16.000 So you have to set up a different metric where they will do well. 0.99

00:32:19.000 Which seems rather both paternalistic and sneering at black Americans. 0.69

00:32:24.000 It is not true, by the way. 0.87

00:32:24.000 Black Americans are fully capable of doing well on tests. 0.87

00:32:28.000 But the notion is that if we get rid of the metric, then everything gets all better.

00:32:34.000 Get rid of the standards.

00:32:35.000 Get rid of the requirements.

00:32:36.000 Get rid of the metrics.

00:32:38.000 Get rid of the requirement that you work hard and that you take the risk, and society somehow improves.

00:32:43.000 That's a lie.

00:32:44.000 We'll get to that in a second.

00:32:45.000 As I say, there are other societies that are waiting with bated breath for us to do exactly this sort of stuff.

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00:33:52.000 Okay, so as a society, if we embrace empathy to the exclusion of aggressiveness and merit and risk-taking and standards, we will die.

00:34:02.000 A society needs both empathy and aggressiveness.

00:34:05.000 It needs male and female. 0.98

00:34:07.000 These are characteristics that, by the way, again, have been seen in every society since the beginning of time.

00:34:11.000 And this is not to deny that there are women who can be more masculine and men who can be more effeminate. 0.60

00:34:16.000 It is to say that, on average, there are differences in quality between male and female, as everyone understands, and that these qualities are very important in a society and should be pressed forward, fomented, and fostered by a society that remains healthy.

00:34:30.000 In other countries, by the way, they're not doing this.

00:34:32.000 In other countries, opposing civilizations, they're not playing games with any of this stuff.

00:34:38.000 They've decided that they are going to prevent people from living in a sort of miasmatic genderless space where all of their desires are reflected back at them. 0.94

00:34:48.000 There's a good piece by a person named Hobby Zhang in the Wall Street Journal today, a doctoral student in political science, talking about the coddling of American children.

00:34:56.000 Quote, as a Chinese doctoral student raising a young son in the United States, I'm mystified by how American elementary schools coddle students.

00:35:03.000 In China, schools are run like boot camps.

00:35:04.000 What do the therapeutic comforts America showers on its youth portend for a growing competition with China? 0.98

00:35:10.000 I recently registered my son in the third grade at a New Jersey public school.

00:35:13.000 Hattie had recently finished two years of elementary school in Chengdu, China, where he trotted off to school each day with a backpack stuffed with thick textbooks and materials for practices and quizzes.

00:35:21.000 Here, he leaves for school with little in his backpack other than a required healthy snack.

00:35:25.000 The first day, he came home with a sheet of math homework.

00:35:27.000 35 addition problems.

00:35:28.000 He finished in about a minute.

00:35:29.000 On the second day, he was asked to write 328 in different configurations.

00:35:32.000 He first wrote down 300 plus 20 plus 8 following the prompt, and then 164 times 2, 82 times 4, and 656 divided by 2. My son is not a genius, but he started studying math at an early age.

00:35:46.000 It is a core belief in Chinese society that talent can be trained, so schools should be tough on children. 1.00

00:35:51.000 Chinese students score at the top of international math and science tests.

00:35:53.000 We've got the UCs removing the SATs and ACTs because, God forbid, too many Asian students get in. 1.00

00:36:00.000 And at the same time, you've got Chinese schools that are basically saying, no, no, no, you guys are going to be forced to learn, you're going to be provided the opportunity to learn, and you're going to be expected to learn.

00:36:08.000 This is not a philosophy shared by American schools, says this writer.

00:36:11.000 On Friday night, my son came home announcing in bewilderment he didn't have any homework.

00:36:15.000 In China, students tend to receive twice as much homework on the weekend, given the two days to complete it.

00:36:19.000 How will America compete with a China determined to train the best mathematicians, scientists, and engineers? 0.99

00:36:23.000 Unfolding now are two Maoist cultural revolutions, one in the East and the other in the West.

00:36:29.000 The former is a jingoistic nationalism enforced by party loyalties and ubiquitous secret police.

00:36:34.000 The latter is an anti-Americanism enforced by progressive mobs seeking to defund the police.

00:36:39.000 Both are about limiting expression, controlling thought, and regulating behavior.

00:36:42.000 Xi Jinping has been cracking down on everything from finance to entertainment to whip his country through a national rejuvenation.

00:36:48.000 America, China's nationalism is explicitly anchored in Maoism, with Mr. Xi representing a new cult of personality.

00:36:54.000 Meanwhile, woke America, which consciously or not deploys Maoist tactics, is destroying the core traditions of Western civilization with identity politics.

00:37:02.000 In both countries, control must extend to the very young to mold them in the image of the official ideology.

00:37:08.000 In fall 2020, Chinese pupils returned to school with a new requirement to study Xi Jinping Thought.

00:37:13.000 Across the ocean, American pupils are taught that white America is inherently racist regardless of individual intention or action.

00:37:19.000 Chinese education pushes the young in directions that serve the party and the state.

00:37:23.000 Youths are trained to be skilled laborers ready to endure hard work and brutal competition.

00:37:27.000 American education is supposed to be about opening minds but appears not to fill them with much.

00:37:31.000 Worse, young Americans are not prepared for the demands of being an adult.

00:37:34.000 It's much worse than that.

00:37:35.000 American education right now is geared toward teaching people that the things that matter about you are your mutable racial characteristics and your sexual proclivities.

00:37:43.000 And those sexual proclivities can span the entire gamut of human existence.

00:37:47.000 And this is the most important thing about you.

00:37:49.000 Who do you think is going to win? 1.00

00:37:51.000 Really, the only thing holding China back from winning is the fact that they're tied down to idiotic communism. 1.00

00:37:55.000 If they were not, they would be eating our lunch much worse than they are right now. 1.00

00:37:59.000 As a society, when we abandon our own central values, when we abandon basic truths about life, reality comes to bite you in the ass. 0.99

00:38:07.000 Alright, we'll get to more in just one second. 0.99

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00:39:51.000 Societies that have confidence in themselves stand up for their centralized values and for their heroes.

00:40:01.000 Well, meanwhile, societies like the United States, we removed Thomas Jefferson statues according to the New York Post.

00:40:06.000 Thomas Jefferson is no longer in the room where it happens.

00:40:08.000 Art handlers packed up an 884-pound statue of Jefferson in a wooden crate on Monday.

00:40:12.000 After a mayoral commission voted to banish the likeness of the nation's third president from City Hall, where it resided for nearly two centuries, because he owned slaves.

00:40:20.000 About a dozen workers with martial fine arts spent several hours carefully removing the painted plaster monument from its pedestal inside the city council chambers and surrounding it with sections of foam and wooden boards.

00:40:30.000 They then lowered that massive structure down the stairs, leading to the building's first floor rotunda with a pulley system ushered the founding father out the back door.

00:40:37.000 It's going to be on long-term loans to the New York Historical Society, which plans to have Jefferson's model survive in its lobby and reading room.

00:40:44.000 Kerry Butler, executive director of the Public Design Commission that voted to banish the statue, at first tried to block the press from witnessing the removal.

00:40:50.000 Butler relented after members of the mayor's office and city council intervened.

00:40:54.000 So, there are now pictures of Thomas Jefferson's statue being removed.

00:40:57.000 Very important to get rid of the guy who wrote the Declaration of Independence because history is filled with people doing bad things.

00:41:03.000 And so we have to make sure that's gone.

00:41:04.000 We need a George Floyd statue in there because truly what signifies America is the victimization of black Americans, not the great and good founding principles that allowed for the end of slavery in the United States, the end of Jim Crow in the United States, and the vast thriving of vast numbers of black Americans in the United States, particularly in the post-civil rights era.

00:41:23.000 Hey, this is all of that is irrelevant.

00:41:26.000 The really relevant thing is that human beings suffer in the United States because we are a system that has decided that we are bad and we are very, very bad.

00:41:35.000 Meanwhile, the Teddy Roosevelt statue at the Museum of Natural History is going to be moved to North Dakota.

00:41:40.000 The Teddy Roosevelt Presidential Library Foundation, set to open in 2026, said in a statement it had entered into an agreement with the City of New York for the long-term loan and reconsideration of the equestrian statue designed by James Earl Frazier, this is according to the New York Post.

00:41:52.000 That announcement came five months after the New York City Public Design Commission voted unanimously to relocate the brand's effigy of the nation's 26th president amid claims it symbolizes colonial subjugation and racial discrimination.

00:42:05.000 It was vandalized with paint in 2017.

00:42:08.000 Well, the idea, I love this, the library agreed, the statue is problematic in its composition.

00:42:13.000 Moreover, its current location denies passerby's consent and context.

00:42:18.000 Yes, if you are faced with the reality of a statue, you have not given your consent to be faced with the reality of the statue.

00:42:23.000 By the way, that naked man peeing on the street in New York City, you didn't give your consent for that either, but that's freedom.

00:42:29.000 Freedom is a man peeing on the street or prostitutes walking the lanes and you living in that society. 0.89

00:42:35.000 That's true freedom.

00:42:36.000 That's the true blessing of liberty right there.

00:42:38.000 But if you have to walk by a statue of Teddy Roosevelt, you did not give your consent for that.

00:42:41.000 For you to walk by that inanimate object that's not bothering you in any way.

00:42:45.000 That one you didn't give your consent to.

00:42:47.000 But we don't need your consent for the homeless man crapping on the sidewalk to do that in front of your children.

00:42:53.000 This is the society that we are creating for ourselves.

00:42:56.000 And this is what happens when what you value is your own sense of self Pity over the realities of the world.

00:43:05.000 History is filled with bad things.

00:43:07.000 History is also filled with institutions built before you were about.

00:43:10.000 And the belief that the world will end spinning when you are here and thus you are the great moral arbiter of the universe and get to reshape the universe in line with all of your thinking is destroying the country.

00:43:20.000 It's throwing everything from history to race to sex in the United States.

00:43:24.000 And it's really, really ugly.

00:43:27.000 If we wish to survive against the forces of nature that exist outside of us, we're going to have to come to terms with the fact that reality does exist.

00:43:34.000 Biological reality exists. 0.99

00:43:35.000 Historical reality exists.

00:43:37.000 The reality that your singular choices in life make a very large-scale difference in how your life turns out, that's a reality that exists.

00:43:45.000 And if we just decide that we're going to blind ourselves to that reality, well, we can wander around blindly until we stumble directly into the fire of reality, and it is going to burn.

00:43:53.000 It's going to burn an awful, awful lot.

00:43:56.000 Speaking of the fire of reality, so this situation in Waukesha, Wisconsin continues to percolate.

00:44:05.000 We still do not know why the person, the 39-year-old black male who decided to drive a car into a crowd of children, why he did that, we don't know.

00:44:15.000 And we probably will never find out, because we are not allowed to ask such questions.

00:44:19.000 Because to ask such questions might reveal that certain ideologies are not, in fact, good.

00:44:24.000 According to the U.S. 0.98

00:44:25.000 Sun, the suspect in the Christmas parade rampage that killed five revelers wrote an anti-Donald Trump rap and declared, F the pigs, according to songs posted online. 0.96

00:44:33.000 One of his songs includes the lyrics, they're gonna need a cleaner for the bleep we did. 0.97

00:44:36.000 All my killers at Gacy wear them bodies hid.

00:44:39.000 Here's a little bit of his, uh, of his brilliant rap. 0.96

00:44:44.000 This that Malcolm X s**t, revolutionary. 0.98

00:44:48.000 This for my n****s in the can, eatin' convosary. 0.99

00:44:51.000 For every ghetto in America, I know they waitin'. 1.00

00:44:55.000 This that f**k Donald Trump flow, and whoever had s**t. 1.00

00:45:01.000 So, both untalented, incoherent, and has a terrible philosophy. 0.99

00:45:05.000 Well, we're not supposed to investigate any of that, though.

00:45:07.000 If Andy Ngo posts anything about his philosophy, the journalists among us will shield us from the vicious reality that maybe this guy believes a lot of really bad stuff. 0.95

00:45:16.000 By the way, you know that if there had been a white guy who drove a car into a crowd filled with children, and they had found on his Facebook page a bunch of white supremacist garbage, that would immediately be the leading motive that was suspected. 0.95

00:45:30.000 We know this for a fact. 0.99

00:45:33.000 So, again, blinding ourselves to reality.

00:45:35.000 Okay, so, this brings us to the most obvious issue with what is happening in Waukesha.

00:45:40.000 So, one thing that we clearly know at this point is that this person should have been in prison.

00:45:43.000 There's no question that this guy should have been in jail at this point.

00:45:47.000 We know that he was out on bail, $1,000 bail, from apparently using his car to hit somebody, like a few days before.

00:45:54.000 And then he was just set free.

00:45:56.000 Joe Biden finally reacted to Waukesha, by the way.

00:45:59.000 It took him like 48 hours to react to Waukesha.

00:46:03.000 Suffice to say that if the races had been reversed, it would have taken less than a second and a half, right? 0.95

00:46:07.000 If it had been a black guy, if it had been a white guy driving a car into a crowd of black kids.

00:46:11.000 Biden would have been to the microphone before the car stopped moving. 1.00

00:46:15.000 But this was a black guy using a car to hit a bunch of white kids. 0.98

00:46:18.000 And so apparently that is that's a different thing. 0.93

00:46:20.000 You got you got to be considered about it, by the way, should be considered in both situations.

00:46:24.000 Here is here is Joe Biden finally sounding off about Waukesha.

00:46:28.000 We know this morning that five families in Waukesha are facing fresh grief of a life without a loved one.

00:46:38.000 At least 40 Americans are suffering from injuries, some of them in critical condition.

00:46:43.000 Bye.

00:46:45.000 And an entire community is struggling, struggling to cope with the horrific act of violence.

00:46:51.000 Last night, the people of Waukesha were gathered to celebrate the start of a season of hope and togetherness and Thanksgiving.

00:47:00.000 This morning, Jill and I and the entire Biden family, and I'm sure all of us pray, That that same spirit is going to embrace and lift up all the victims of this tragedy.

00:47:13.000 Okay, so glad that Joe Biden could be bothered to emerge and say these things.

00:47:17.000 It is also true that we know, at least from a policy perspective, why this happened.

00:47:22.000 According to CBS 58 in Wisconsin, the Waukesha Police Department is referring five counts of intentional homicide for the man accused of ramming his SUV into the Waukesha Christmas Parade.

00:47:32.000 Those charges carry possible life sentences.

00:47:34.000 There's the possibility more charges will be filed as the investigation progresses.

00:47:39.000 This was not the first time that this suspect, and again, I don't use names for people who do this sort of stuff because I don't like people being glorified for this.

00:47:46.000 I don't think they should become famous because of this.

00:47:48.000 I think that they should be thrown in jail to rot and then forgotten because that's what they deserve.

00:47:52.000 This was not the first time this suspect allegedly ran someone over with his car.

00:47:56.000 Just three weeks ago, he ran over a woman he had a child with.

00:48:00.000 But at the time, his bail was set at just $1,000.

00:48:01.000 He paid it and was released.

00:48:04.000 Now, the Milwaukee County District Attorney's Office is conducting an internal review into why the bail was set inappropriately low.

00:48:12.000 Justice Jeanine Gieske, who is on the Wisconsin Supreme Court from 93 to 98, explained, quote, there are hundreds and hundreds of cases in Milwaukee County.

00:48:18.000 Even the backlog of full homicides is tremendous at this point.

00:48:21.000 Judge Justice Gieske said the district attorney's office recommends the bail amount to a court commissioner before it's approved by a judge.

00:48:28.000 It's not unusual for a court commissioner to be setting 30, 40, 50 cases of bail on a day.

00:48:32.000 The bail amount is supposed to consider a person's prior record, character, whether they might flee, whether they might commit a crime while out on bail.

00:48:39.000 But there are plenty of red flags.

00:48:40.000 Because, um, this guy had a bail-jumping felony.

00:48:43.000 He had second-degree recklessly endangering safety felonies.

00:48:47.000 He paid the $1,000 bail.

00:48:48.000 It was released November 11th, 10 days before the Waukesha parade.

00:48:52.000 The DA's office now says in a statement, quote, the bail recommendation in this case is not consistent with the approach of the Milwaukee County District Attorney's Office toward matters involving violent crime, nor was it consistent with the risk assessment of the defendant prior to the setting of bail.

00:49:04.000 Well, there's only one problem.

00:49:06.000 It's very consistent with the with the Milwaukee County D.A.

00:49:09.000 John Chisholm's approach.

00:49:11.000 Yesterday, we talked at length on the show about the fact that Chisholm was made nationally famous for his approach to low bail.

00:49:17.000 He put out a statement saying, quote, the state's bail recommendation in this case was inappropriately low, and they're conducting an internal review.

00:49:24.000 Yeah, no bleep, you're conducting an internal review.

00:49:27.000 I mean, it's totally crazy.

00:49:27.000 Insane.

00:49:30.000 Okay, but again, we are now going to obscure the real facts here.

00:49:34.000 We're going to pretend that it was an SUV, right?

00:49:36.000 The SUV was the problem.

00:49:37.000 It's funny how this works, by the way. 0.99

00:49:38.000 If it's white guy in SUV runs down black kids, it's white guy in SUV runs down black kids. 0.99

00:49:43.000 If it is, in fact, a black guy in an SUV running down white kids, then the SUV is the problem. 0.99

00:49:50.000 Look at the way that the media report these headlines, right?

00:49:52.000 There's a headline today From CNN breaking news, quote, five people have died and more than 40 are injured after an SUV plowed through a holiday parade in Waukesha.

00:50:02.000 Well, you know, that's unfortunate when the SUVs just sort of run out of control all by themselves this way.

00:50:06.000 Meanwhile, the left continues to foment the exact same garbage policy that led to this in the first place.

00:50:11.000 So, Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez literally put out a message to legislators today, asking for bail reform. 0.56

00:50:22.000 She put out a tweet that was sent out within 24 hours of Waukesha, quote, chairman of the committee on oversight and reform, and representative Jamie Raskin, two New York City's five district attorneys requesting information on excessive bail in the New York City court system.

00:50:38.000 When prosecutors seek excessive cash bail, it results in increased rates of incarceration, particularly for low-income defense.

00:50:44.000 Well, we wouldn't want criminals in the prisons.

00:50:48.000 We need them out on the streets, obviously.

00:50:50.000 You know the level of blindness, and honestly, self-confidence you have to have to make a statement like this in the immediate aftermath of Waukesha?

00:50:58.000 So this criminal is out on bail.

00:51:00.000 Inappropriately low bail.

00:51:01.000 And like within 24 hours, she and the rest of the Democratic Party, apparently are releasing a statement calling for low bail.

00:51:08.000 Condemning thousands of individuals to languish in an environment plagued by persistence overcrowding and mounting violence as they wait trial is not acceptable and risks violating their federal civil rights. If these conditions are not addressed, federal intervention may be necessary to protect detainees from additional harm.

00:51:23.000 We have grave concerns.

00:51:24.000 Excessive bail amounts are leading to unnecessary pretrial detention. Oh, do you?

00:51:29.000 And by the way, if you think these people are in any way tethered to reality, they are not.

00:51:34.000 Perhaps the funniest clip of the day, Jonathan Swan of Axios, who is basically like Jon Stewart now.

00:51:40.000 He just interviews people, and he asks them really obvious questions, and they have no idea how to answer them.

00:51:46.000 I can't tell you how many of these almost parodic videos Jonathan Swan has put out at this point, where he asks someone a very obvious and clear question, and they have no idea what to say about it.

00:51:55.000 So he was interviewing the execrable Rashida Tlaib, one of the worst members of Congress, She's just terrible. 1.00

00:52:00.000 Vicious anti-Semite. 0.98

00:52:02.000 Terrible person. 0.96

00:52:03.000 So he asked Rashida Tlaib about her plans to basically unleash criminals across the United States. 1.00

00:52:09.000 It goes poorly for Rashida Tlaib.

00:52:12.000 To what extent have you wrestled with any potential downsides of releasing into society every single person who's currently in a federal prison?

00:52:21.000 Yeah, again, I think that everyone's like, oh my God, we're going to just release everybody.

00:52:26.000 That's not what I'm... That's what the facts is!

00:52:27.000 Yeah, but did you see how many people are mentally ill that are in prison right now?

00:52:31.000 No, I know, but the act that you endorsed actually says release everyone in ten years.

00:52:35.000 But in ten years, but think about it, who will release you?

00:52:38.000 But there are like, human traffickers... Oh, I know! 0.99

00:52:40.000 Child sex... So, but you're saying, do you mean that you don't actually support that? 0.60

00:52:48.000 And she's like, it's amazing.

00:52:50.000 So she signed an act, right?

00:52:53.000 She sponsored an act that says release everyone. 0.94

00:52:55.000 And then he asked her, you mean everyone?

00:52:57.000 And she's like, no, not everyone.

00:52:58.000 He's like, so why did you sign the act?

00:52:59.000 She's like, well, I mean everyone.

00:53:00.000 Okay, politics is veep, but it has very serious consequences.

00:53:05.000 Everybody thinks politics is house of cards.

00:53:07.000 Understand something.

00:53:08.000 If you ever spend any time with legislators, the vast majority of them have below room temperature IQ. 1.00

00:53:13.000 Our politicians are morons. 1.00

00:53:15.000 Because most of the people you know are morons, and politicians are no different. 1.00

00:53:18.000 But what they do has vast national ramifications. 1.00

00:53:22.000 But if you just shield people from reality and pretend that what they are saying makes a lot of sense, then you're fine.

00:53:27.000 You can pursue whatever delusional policy you want without any sort of eye on the ramifications.

00:53:32.000 This is why DC has now recorded its 200th homicide of the year.

00:53:35.000 That's a mark they haven't seen since 2004, according to the Washington Post.

00:53:40.000 Homicides rose in 29 major U.S.

00:53:42.000 cities through September compared with the same period last year.

00:53:45.000 And they were up last year, too.

00:53:47.000 Killings across the country spiked nearly 30% in 2020, according to the FBI.

00:53:51.000 Baltimore has now passed 300 murders.

00:53:53.000 For the seventh consecutive year, homicides in Philadelphia reached 496 on Sunday.

00:53:57.000 That's 14% higher than this time last year.

00:54:03.000 Officials in the district and across the country say there's no simple explanation for the increase in deadly violence.

00:54:08.000 District leaders have offered many possible reasons, including the proliferation of illegal firearms, their use in seemingly minor disputes, and pandemic-induced disruptions.

00:54:16.000 Um, well, it's... I have an answer for you.

00:54:18.000 It's really, really easy.

00:54:19.000 Not enough cops, too many criminals on the streets.

00:54:21.000 End.

00:54:22.000 That's the whole thing.

00:54:23.000 Done.

00:54:24.000 Was that super hard?

00:54:25.000 I feel like it was really easy, because I said it inside of 10 seconds.

00:54:28.000 We all have to pretend again.

00:54:29.000 Shield people from the realities of their own bad policies.

00:54:32.000 That is the important thing. 1.00

00:54:33.000 Make sure that nobody has to face the consequences of their own stupid notions of how the world ought to work. 0.99

00:54:40.000 The consequences are just born by everybody else. 0.99

00:54:43.000 The consequences are just born By the most vulnerable and the weakest and by the society at large.

00:54:49.000 Again, shield yourself from reality, but reality ain't going to shield itself from you.

00:54:52.000 Reality is coming for you one way or another.

00:54:55.000 Speaking of reality coming for you one way or another, Joe Biden apparently wants to run for re-election.

00:55:00.000 Yeah, good luck with that, Joe.

00:55:01.000 Forget about running for re-election.

00:55:02.000 The guy can't even hobble for re-election.

00:55:05.000 So, Jen Psaki There were reports that President Biden was telling allies that he's going to run for re-election in 2024.

00:55:10.000 Can you confirm, is he going to run in 2024?

00:55:11.000 Is he telling staff that?

00:55:13.000 He is. 0.99

00:55:13.000 brain dead human being has run for president of the United States. 0.99

00:55:15.000 You have some people who are pretty close, but but I'm not sure that we've ever had a person whose mind has has actually turned to mush running for president of the United States again.

00:55:24.000 That's exciting stuff.

00:55:25.000 There were reports that President Biden was telling allies that he's going to run for reelection in 2024.

00:55:30.000 Can you confirm?

00:55:31.000 Is he going to run in 2024?

00:55:32.000 Is he telling staff that?

00:55:33.000 Yes, that's his intention.

00:55:39.000 By the way, Joe Biden says that he's going to run in 2024 and he brags that he has a jobs presidency and a small business presidency.

00:55:46.000 Let me remind you that right now he's attempting to force every small business with more than 100 employees in the United States to vax their employees.

00:55:54.000 that he wants all of these employees apparently out of a job or to obey him.

00:55:57.000 Those are the only two possibilities.

00:55:59.000 Also, he's created massive inflation, supply chain bottlenecks, and he wants to raise taxes, corporate taxes on everyone with an LLC.

00:56:06.000 But don't worry, this is a jobs presidency and a small business presidency, says this delusional old man.

00:56:11.000 America's small businesses are the primary job creators, innovators and drivers that power our economic progress.

00:56:20.000 That's why it's a powerful statement about, of the faith about, that we have in our country, where our country and our economy is heading.

00:56:29.000 And small business creation is surging, surging in America today.

00:56:34.000 Which is why I'm proud to say, if you look at my presidency so far, it's a jobs presidency.

00:56:41.000 And it's a small business presidency.

00:56:45.000 No one believes this, which is why he's at 36% in the approval ratings.

00:56:48.000 Also, Joe Biden is just lying about things.

00:56:50.000 He says more people have more money in their pockets even after inflation.

00:56:53.000 Statistically speaking, this is not true.

00:56:54.000 Wages are actually down compared to inflation now.

00:56:58.000 Things are getting better for American workers. 0.81

00:57:01.000 Higher wages.

00:57:02.000 Better benefits.

00:57:03.000 More flexible schedules.

00:57:06.000 Balance sheets for American families are better as well.

00:57:10.000 Savings are up.

00:57:11.000 Home equity is up.

00:57:13.000 Credit card balances are down.

00:57:15.000 And if you continue and combine the wage increases we've seen with the direct relief my administration has provided to middle class families, the typical middle class family's disposable income has actually gone up 2% this year, even after accounting for higher prices.

00:57:37.000 Is he kidding?

00:57:38.000 Real wages are down.

00:57:39.000 Everyone knows real wages are down.

00:57:42.000 I mean, even Janet Yellen is concerned about it.

00:57:43.000 She says, yeah, we're on a strong growth spurt at the moment.

00:57:45.000 They're just going to try and talk their way through this one.

00:57:47.000 Here is Janet Yellen, who is just terrible at her job. 1.00

00:57:51.000 If the Fed acts quicker to taper, pare back its stimulus and acts quicker to raise interest rates, does that risk a recession or choking off the growth?

00:58:01.000 Well, I see the U.S.

00:58:02.000 economy being on a strong growth spurt at the moment.

00:58:06.000 Unemployment has been falling fast.

00:58:08.000 We have seen over 500,000 jobs a month since President Biden was elected, and I think that's going to continue into next year, driving down unemployment.

00:58:23.000 So, yeah, good luck with that.

00:58:26.000 Meanwhile, NBC News is saying maybe you should skip the turkey.

00:58:29.000 Inflation isn't real, but you should skip the turkey, says a correspondent for The Today Show.

00:58:34.000 While we are on the topic of something that could be controversial, perhaps forego the turkey.

00:58:40.000 Bear with me.

00:58:41.000 I know that is the staple of the Thanksgiving meal.

00:58:44.000 However, some people think turkey is overrated and so it tends to be the most expensive thing on the table.

00:58:50.000 Maybe you do an Italian feast instead.

00:58:52.000 And I will say this, if you tell everyone you're having a Thanksgiving without turkey, some guests may drop off the list and that's a way to cut costs too.

00:59:02.000 Oh, sounds great.

00:59:03.000 Just lower your expectations, guys.

00:59:04.000 Wear a sweater, like Jimmy Carter.

00:59:06.000 Lower your expectations.

00:59:08.000 Here's the nice thing.

00:59:08.000 Okay, so, there's some people out there who, you know, try to fight reality.

00:59:12.000 I root for it.

00:59:13.000 I root for reality.

00:59:14.000 Because in the end, reality wins anyway.

00:59:16.000 And we can either adapt ourselves to reality with systems that make sense.

00:59:21.000 The notion of natural law, where we adapt How we behave to the realities of both what humanity is and to how the world works.

00:59:29.000 That is a better system.

00:59:30.000 Reality is going to win in the end.

00:59:31.000 That is the comforting thought I always have.

00:59:32.000 I get a lot of questions from people about the future of the country, the future of civilization.

00:59:37.000 You know, are you pessimistic or optimistic?

00:59:39.000 Well, always in the short term I'm pessimistic and always in the long term I'm optimistic because here's the thing.

00:59:43.000 Either we learn or we get clocked.

00:59:45.000 We might get clocked first, but we are going to learn.

00:59:48.000 Alrighty, we'll be back here later today with an additional hour of content.

00:59:50.000 In the meantime, go check out The Michael Molls Show that's available right now.

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The Ben Shapiro Show - November 23, 2021

A Society Without Men Is A Dying Society | Ep. 1382

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