In this episode of Sunday Special, Adam Carolla sits down with the founder and creator of the pirate community, Adam Peele, to talk about how he built a community of likeminded podcasters, how he got started in comedy, and how he went from working a 9-5 job to starting a podcast that reaches millions of people around the world. Adam also talks about his upbringing in a very poor family, growing up on food stamps and welfare, and what it's like growing up in a bar rag in the late 80s and early 90s in North Hollywood, California. Adam also discusses how he was able to get his start as a podcaster, and why he decided to leave the corporate world to pursue his dream of becoming a stand-up comedian and start his own podcast. He also discusses his new documentary about bias on college campuses, "College Uncivilized," and why it s better than most people s idea of what college is supposed to be like. Adam is also the host of the podcast "Pirate" and co-host of the new show "The Daily Show with Rachel Maddow, and hosts a new show on HBO's Hard Knocks with Alex Blumberg, which premieres this fall. If you haven t checked out the show yet, you should definitely do so. It s a must-listen to find out what's going on in the world of podcasters and podcasters. And if you don t know who Peele is, you won t want to miss this one. Subscribe to the show! Subscribe on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe on iTunes or wherever else you re listening to podcasts on the podcasters get access to the latest episodes of the podcast, including the latest news and everything else going on around the internet, including The Daily Show and social media, including TikTok, Podchaser, and much more! Subscribe and subscribe to the podchaser. Learn more about your ad choices! Subscribe to become a supporter of the show, and get 20% off your first ad-free version of the PodChilling with Adam's Podchanger, and a chance to win tickets to future episodes of his new show coming in the future episodes, coming soon! Enjoyed this week's new show, "The PodChaser Podcasts With Adam's next episode? Subscribe to The PodChiller Podcast? Subscribe & Subscribe to his new podcast, "House vs. The Pod Chiller?"
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00:01:42.000It is a pleasure to see the founder and creator of the pirate community.
00:01:47.000I mean, so Adam Carolla, for those who don't know, created essentially the podcast medium.
00:01:51.000I mean, it was really Adam who, well, you did.
00:01:53.000I mean, there are other podcasts out there, but Adam's the guy who actually made podcasts a thing where people could support themselves and have a living doing it.
00:02:02.000Yeah, there were others, but yeah, I was probably the first one sort of independently to figure out a way to do it without maybe a parent company like NPR or ESPN or something like that.
00:02:11.000I want to talk about exactly how you came to do that.
00:02:13.000I want to start by talking a little bit about your upbringing because you're a really eclectic dude.
00:02:17.000I mean, you have the podcast, you're making a documentary now with Dennis Prager about bias on college campuses.
00:03:52.000Nobody had a job and nobody had any money.
00:03:55.000We lived in a house versus an apartment because my grandparents sort of took pity on their daughter and let us squat in this house.
00:04:04.000Now, like, the first thing I figured out is the reason the house was always a mess and the reason it was always falling apart and disheveled and everything else is because there was no ownership.
00:04:12.000Like, and she shouldn't have been living in a house.
00:04:15.000We should have been in an apartment somewhere or in a van.
00:04:19.000So, we lived in this house and the house just kind of came undone.
00:04:23.000Because, again, you hand somebody something for free and it just starts coming undone.
00:04:29.000And then it was like food stamps and welfare and whatever free, like literally spaghetti night at the church, go to the church, like whatever we could get free lunch programs at the school with the tickets and the breakfast programs, like all the programs, all the freebies, all the whatever.
00:04:47.000And I just kind of remember thinking like,
00:04:51.000I felt like my family was sort of hobbled because they got just enough to get by and not be really motivated.
00:05:05.000Because I'm still, they keep saying, they still, look, it's insane, because what's insane with me is I do think there is a kind of a weird, there is a kind of a prejudice, or like an assumed prejudice, when people go, well, Adam, come on, you're well spoken, you're a white guy, you drive a nice car, you went to college.
00:05:27.000Like, I would say, like I will say to people,
00:05:31.000I went to North Hollywood High, I graduated North Hollywood High, I started cleaning carpets up the street, literally A and B carpet cleaning, and then I got into construction.
00:05:41.000When I say got into construction, I showed up on a job site and pulled ivy off the side of a house in Silver Lake and dragged it up to the dumpster.
00:06:37.000Then I just got pushed out into the world and just sort of had to make do.
00:06:41.000And in terms of the white privilege, I worked this notion of like, hey, these are jobs Americans won't do.
00:06:52.000When I did carpet cleaning, which is the lowest form of manual labor, like literally get into a van, drive to a Colony Kitchen or Tony Roma's or whatever in the middle of the night and just get the steamer out and steam the entire wand and clean the entire restaurant and then go back at four in the morning, drop the van off and go home and get paid six bucks an hour.
00:08:24.000You know, like I learned, football will teach you discomfort and how to kind of tolerate discomfort because when you're in the San Fernando Valley and you're running, you're doing two-a-days in early September and it's brutal outside and they think water's bad for you, like, just rinse, don't, you don't, literally, like, spit it out, you'll cramp up, like, I'm depleted.
00:09:07.000There was no path intellectually to get paid.
00:09:11.000So if I was gonna get paid, it was gonna be because there was a stack of drywall over there, and you needed that stack of drywall moved over there, and that's how I got paid.
00:09:22.000And literally digging ditches and just demoing out stucco and hauling garbage.
00:09:42.000And there's just a huge pile of dirt, like size of two minivans, and they gave me a shovel and a wheelbarrow, and they're like, the dumpster's over there.
00:09:52.000And they're like, however long it takes you to get that into that, then you can leave.
00:09:57.000And I was just alone, just like all day, just scoop, you know, one load at a time, like counting my steps and trying not to go insane.
00:10:08.000I could definitely, this would not be in the Shapiro wheelhouse.
00:10:10.000In 1996, Ben Shapiro picked up a feather duster and handed it to one of his squires, but that's still counted.
00:10:19.000Yeah, they have some manual labor in the Jewish community right there.
00:10:22.000Oh yeah, yeah, it was funny because there are no Jews on the construction site ever, which always is something that is funny because when I did construction,
00:10:37.000All throughout the San Fernando Valley.
00:10:39.000I'd be in Chatsworth, Canoga Park, Simi Valley, blah, blah, blah.
00:10:43.000No one ever said to me, you're Jewish, right?
00:11:25.000Zero, you know, Goyim with this hair in a writer's room.
00:11:31.000It's like they're trying to save time.
00:11:34.000I learned how to work hard, like work in construction.
00:11:37.000And it was like, but I also learned, like, I don't want to get paid by the hour because
00:11:45.000I remember having these fantasies where I was going, well, you're getting $8 an hour now.
00:11:52.000And your job, your plan is to see if you can work 50, maybe 60 hours a week and pay your bills with your roommates and your apartments and stuff like that.
00:11:59.000But I was like, even if you got paid, I'd probably think of some princely sum like $18 an hour or $22 an hour.
00:12:06.000Even if you got paid, let's just say $25 an hour,
00:12:24.000Maybe the by the hour way isn't the way to go.
00:12:29.000And so how did you get from doing that to comedy?
00:12:32.000I mean, that's a pretty radical shift from, as you say, being the person who is schlepping wheelbarrows full of dirt places to being in writer's rooms on comedy.
00:12:45.000I sat down in my apartment when I was like 22
00:12:51.000And I'd been doing labor for, you know, like labor and carpentry for maybe three years and I was driving like a beat up old mini pickup truck with like no headrests and stuff and like I didn't have insurance and I wasn't, construction is very like day labor kind of stuff.
00:13:55.000And I was just like, it's gonna be a long, uncomfortable life.
00:14:00.000And your family's not in the equation in terms of like, no one's gonna leave you a business, or your grandfather's collection of Duesenbergs will be all yours.
00:14:09.000You'll be able to sell them at auction and live comfortably.
00:14:13.000No one had anything, no one's gonna help.
00:14:15.000So I was like 22, 23, I was in my apartment with no air conditioning in North Hollywood, my three roommates in a one bedroom, and I was like,
00:14:29.000And one plan was like, well, get your contractor's license and get a better truck and maybe get a crew or something like that.
00:14:37.000I was just like, yeah, but that's still tough and it's a lot of work and you get your tools ripped off and it's just, it's a tough life and you don't get paid that much.
00:14:49.000And so I was like, all right, so what else do you do?
00:16:27.000You have like eight years to figure out this thing called comedy, and don't even put the pressure on yourself, which is when you're, you know, 30, you gotta be on TV, you have to have your own show, or you have to be syndicated radio host, or, I didn't have any of that.
00:16:45.000I just had, right now you're making money off your back.
00:16:51.000Could you make money off of your ideas or something that involves some air conditioning?
00:16:57.000Like, I just wanted some air conditioning.
00:16:59.000When it gets hot and you just eat, you sit on a pile of drywall and it's like, it gets brutal.
00:17:08.000I was just like, I would be happy working for a greeting card company if we were in a room and there were three people pitching funny Father's Day cards and I could come up with some funny ideas.
00:17:25.000I didn't have the bar too high, but I needed to be doing something that had dental insurance or something.
00:17:31.000And so I just said, well, what do you got to do?
00:17:34.000And somebody said, well, take a groundlings class and you could go to the groundlings and like learn how to do improvisational comedy and get up on stage and do group comedy and sketches and like write stuff down and stuff like that.
00:17:55.000Like literally with no car insurance and no medical or dental insurance or anything, just living hand to mouth.
00:18:05.000But I paid like $275 for a groundlings class, you know, and I was like going out on Sunday nights and just doing open mics and waiting in line and stuff like that.
00:18:16.000And everyone in my world was kind of like, are you nuts?
00:19:28.000If you are doing something and you shouldn't be doing it, you're possibly preventing other people who should be doing it from doing it.
00:19:37.000So it's like, I didn't get up on stage that night because the guy who's managing the coffee bean did get up on stage.
00:19:44.000I was plugging around for like eight years and I was doing stand-up and I was doing sketch and I was doing little acting and I was doing little writing and I was having little bits and pieces of miniature success.
00:20:02.000I'd also at that time got into teaching boxing for a living because, not for a living, I taught morning classes at a place called Bodies in Motion.
00:20:30.000As you get to 30 and as the comedy dream isn't really coming to fruition, doing something where you're on your feet, where you're interacting with people, where you're talking to people, construction would be lonely.
00:20:46.000You'd just go there and you'd work alone a lot of times, just be sitting in some half-finished house in Simi Valley just putting in molding.
00:22:06.000She has a job writing for Seinfeld and she heard about me and she just bought her first house on the west side and putting in, I'm going to build her an entertainment unit, blah, blah, blah.
00:22:17.000And so I literally called from her house as I'm driving over the hill.
00:22:22.000I'm listening to KROQ Radio, I'm listening to Kevin and Bean, I'm listening to Jimmy the Sports Guy, who's now Jimmy Kimmel, back then like Third Banana on The Morning Show, getting into an argument with Michael the Maintenance Man, and next thing you know we're going to have a boxing match between Michael the Maintenance Man and Jimmy the Sports Guy.
00:22:46.000I didn't know either one of them, obviously.
00:22:48.000I'm like a person just listening to the radio, you know?
00:22:52.000And I get to Marjorie Grossman's house, and I'm like, could I use your phone?
00:22:56.000And I'm calling KROQ going, hey, I'm a boxing trainer, because they put it out.
00:26:03.000Like KROQ didn't open until 9 for business.
00:26:07.000So now I'm just standing in the halls of the 9th floor of a commercial building in Burbank by the elevators and I'm like,
00:26:14.000That they don't show up till nine the morning shows on but they're like tucked away in the corner and it'd be like you and I sitting here and someone just standing out in the lobby who couldn't get up here so I just stood there like I was like where should I go what should I do and I stood there and some guy came up the elevator
00:26:35.000And he clearly like had like a hand truck or something.
00:26:38.000He had business, like he was dropping off some stuff and he was walking around this back hall to like go in what is now I know is the back door of KROQ with the keypad or whatever.
00:26:48.000And I was like following him, like, are you going into KROQ?
00:26:51.000And he's like, yeah, you know, I'm filling the vending machine or something.
00:26:55.000And I was like, could you tell him there's a boxing coach waiting by the elevators?
00:27:57.000My Zuzu Trooper's nicer than this guy's RX-7.
00:28:00.000I remember thinking, hmm, what if I want in on this?
00:28:04.000But I was like, I got three weeks to train this guy, and all I want to do is pick his brain about how he got into radio and how he got into comedy.
00:28:20.000So he kind of does some writing, does some producing, does some editing, and does his sports bit, but he's not Kevin Irvine or Frank Murphy, the producer.
00:28:30.000So he's not going to be able to march in there and go, hey fellas,
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00:32:42.000that he was injured in the shop over the weekend.
00:32:46.000He wasn't coming in Monday morning to school, because I'd call it like 7.15.
00:32:51.000And I'd say, I know all these kids listen to your crappy music, like they love smashing dumplings and nervosa and all your crappy hippie music.
00:33:04.000And they're listening now on their clock radios, like their alarm clock radios.
00:34:05.000Okay, Brad, take the dado set up and put it on.
00:34:08.000Move the Biesemeyer fence, set up the dado on the table saw, and I just start getting into this crazy nailing schedule on sheer wall and stuff like that.
00:34:40.000Treated bottom plate, two by four, 16 on center, that's your layout.
00:34:44.000Double top plate, you know, use a 16 penny sinker, but don't use sinkers when you're cheer walling, use like a 10 penny ring shank, because a sinker's vinyl code's gonna come out.
00:34:56.000Or you could nail it off with eight penny sinkers, make sure it's struck one, you know, CDX, half inch, good one side, put the label out if you're getting inspected.
00:35:04.000And I, and then they go like, how does he know
00:35:11.000And so people were sort of intrigued that this guy was like funny, but he also, every time someone called in, they'd go like, a roofer came to the house and he said that some of the metal on it, drip edge?
00:35:44.000I became this sort of local celebrity.
00:35:47.000I immediately got offers and stuff like that.
00:35:51.000I got a manager and just the bittersweet, weird circle this is then about two years into it, maybe even a year and a half into it, stuff happened immediately.
00:36:03.000Once I got on KROQ, it just happened fast.
00:36:06.000I get this call from my manager and he's like, hey, I got a call from Marjorie Grossman's
00:36:28.000And her brother is going through all her stuff and her brother wants to know why there's a check for $1,200 to Adam Parola.
00:36:36.000Because her brother knew who Adam Carolla was.
00:36:39.000She wrote me a check for Adam Carolla, the comedian, but she wrote a check to Adam Carolla, the carpenter, and I remember it was like, literally yesterday, I was envying her life.
00:36:51.000I was like, oh God, you got a new house, you got entertainment, you're working, and then she just died like that, and now I've got my manager, and Willie Morris, and blah, blah, blah, and I was like,
00:37:19.000How did you decide, you know, I'm done with radio, I'm not doing terrestrial anymore, now I want to do this podcasting thing that nobody had really tried successfully to that point, but you spotted a market before there even was a market, and now the rest of us get to make a living in it.
00:38:29.000In radio, that I would get thrown off of radio for saying something stupid and then I'd go get another job somewhere else.
00:38:40.000It was like, well, I'll get cut for this team for getting into it with the coach, but I'm a good ball player and I'll just get picked up by this other team.
00:38:48.000But I didn't know the league was going to collapse.
00:40:31.000I never want to look at talking as a job.
00:40:35.000I also have built this audience over the years and I don't want to have my tether come unmoored and float out somewhere and then come back and see if I can get them gathered up and into the tent again.
00:40:53.000Well, I knew we had many millions of minutes of streaming every month, but the radio station and their sort of infinite wisdom was like, they'd come in and they'd go, you guys are number five in Los Angeles.
00:41:31.000I mean, everybody, I had Joe Rogan in here a few weeks ago and we were talking about you and he was crediting you as the guy who kind of realized that there was another continent out there that nobody else knew was out there.
00:41:42.000It's also created an enormous amount of liberty in the space because being on radio, you did radio a lot longer than I did, but I did radio too.
00:41:50.000There's always this fear that you're going to say the one thing and then the one thing will get you fired and it will finish your career.
00:41:55.000And for you it's a lot harder because you're in comedy.
00:41:58.000And now, I mean, I was going to ask you this from the beginning.
00:42:01.000How do you do comedy in an era of political correctness?
00:42:03.000Because it seems like everybody is getting slaughtered right now.
00:44:42.000And I'm also just, at a certain point, you will be who you are.
00:44:48.000Like, no, Howard Stern can say whatever he wants whenever he wants, and no one ever demands that Howard Stern apologize, because Howard Stern is Howard Stern.
00:44:56.000Or it's my Snoop Dogg can smoke weed wherever he wants.
00:45:00.000So if I went into like an AIDS hospice, I couldn't spark up.
00:45:06.000Snoop Dogg could fire up a hookah pipe in the middle of an AIDS hospice and they'd be like, that's no, that's fine.
00:45:25.000You, we've said, I've said a couple times on the show, you're not ostensibly political.
00:45:29.000You found yourself in this sort of circle where you have friends on the left, obviously, like you're still good friends with Jimmy Kimmel, but then you're also very good friends with Dennis Prager.
00:45:38.000So why is it, do you think, that you've been embraced by the right when you're really sort of, you consider yourself sort of an apolitical dude?
00:45:47.000People say, oh, you're conservative, you're right-wing, or whatever.
00:45:49.000I said, well, go back and listen to Loveline, the non-political radio show from 1997, where I'd go, look, family, education, people shouldn't be having kids who can't afford kids.
00:46:39.000All the stuff I learned through, quite frankly, this little microcosm called North Hollywood High is a very interesting combination of different
00:47:17.000And they're like their family stayed together and they were in student council and they did well in their schoolwork and stuff like that.
00:47:23.000And then there was like white trash dudes like me from literally right next to the high school in North Hollywood, my buddy Ray and Chris and stuff like that.
00:47:32.000And then we had some Mexican guys who were like from a little deeper from the valley and some black guys who were like bust in from South Central because I played football with all those guys.
00:47:43.000When North Harvard High was done, I say done because like my friends, some of them didn't graduate or they just moved on or they wandered off and had jobs.
00:47:52.000The Jewish kids like went off to UCLA and Stanford and Cal.
00:47:58.000The black kids just went back to the hood and the white trash and the Mexican guys hung out and got jobs digging ditches.
00:48:06.000And so I was like, hmm, what's the through line here?
00:48:10.000And it's like, well, all my friends, their parents were divorced.
00:48:22.000Nobody was doing homework or whatever.
00:48:24.000So I put together this composite very quickly of what works and what doesn't work just based on this Petri dish called North Hollywood High and how these folks went off to be successful and we went off to toil in the sun.
00:48:41.000So I understood that and I always preached it.
00:48:45.000And no one ever accused me of being political for many of the notions I had about just sort of self-reliance, you know?
00:48:54.000My mom got welfare and food stamps, and she was a mess, and the house was a mess, and we barely got by, and it was a bad life, and she was like hobbled by it, and she doesn't know, she's not...
00:49:05.000You know, she doesn't have spina bifida, and she's not a moron.
00:49:08.000She just never knew what she could do.
00:49:11.000Just like I never knew what I could do until the radio station fired me.
00:49:14.000Like, I needed to be pushed out, and if the radio station... I would have worked there for a thousand years.
00:49:19.000So, all of a sudden, these things have become political stances, which is... it's kind of confusing to me, and I'm not really into arguing about, you know, who does a better job.
00:49:34.000It's also a weird world where you can't speak logically to people.
00:49:38.000I've had a million... Some of the stuff I get thrown back in my face is like, look, if something happens to me and my wife, I'd like a mom and a dad, a male and a female, to raise my kids, because we both offer very different things.
00:49:53.000But, that being said, I will take the lesbian couple or the gay couple who's doing a little better, who has a better minivan that's a little newer and a little safer, who lives in a better part of town with a better school system, I will take them over the heterosexual couple if they're marginally better.
00:52:08.000All things are the same, I would take this.
00:52:10.000But if the other couple, then they go, well, that's a flawed premise because you can't make everything the same.
00:52:15.000And I'm like, just make them have the same job, live in the same neighborhood.
00:52:21.000I don't know, some may think one guy likes Jeopardy, the other likes Desperate Housewives or something, but just make everything the same, would you?
00:52:33.000When they say to me, so you would take this couple that raises rabies-infested raccoons in their camper, in their double wide, over David Gama.
00:53:01.000I do think that they're looking for a world in which- they need an answer.
00:53:06.000And the answer is always going to be that it's their political viewpoint or you have a character flaw.
00:53:11.000And so if you do not repeat their political viewpoint, then it must be that you have a character flaw.
00:53:16.000And that character flaw means that secretly, even though you've already said this stuff, secretly you do believe that the rabies-infested double-eyed with the heterosexual couple is better than David Geffen because your secret motivation is that you like gay people worse than you like straight people.
00:53:29.000You like straight people more than you like gay people.
00:53:31.000And so even if you say all things being equal, deep down in your heart, you know secretly that what this is really coming from is animus for gay people.
00:53:39.000Because having spoken with more people on the left than anybody that I know in my lifetime, it seems to me that when people are being intellectually dishonest that way, and you see it with Cathy Newman and Jordan Peterson, for example, where Jordan Peterson is talking about earnings and Cathy Newman is suddenly just recasting everything that he's saying, she knows what he's saying.
00:53:58.000It's just that she doesn't believe that that's really his motivation in saying it.
00:54:01.000It's them attempting to read your heart, I think.
00:54:06.000It goes back to what you were saying earlier.
00:54:07.000If you're comfortable in who you are, it's hard for them to come back at you because they want to say that you're homophobic or you're racist or something.
00:55:05.000And he's very loyal and he's very honest.
00:55:09.000He has all the qualities that you would want, that the grandparents would want their kids to date.
00:55:15.000No, the only point that I'm making is that he's politically different than you are, but he's not attributing these bad motivations to you, so I would say that typically, and the same thing is true, you know, for people who I deal with.
00:55:23.000I have friends who are on the political left, and if they don't spend their days misaligning, you know, misattributing character to me, then I know that they're a decent person.
00:55:31.000Like, it seems to me that it's always been about decency.
00:55:34.000Yeah, well, it's also, I think part of the, I mean, part of the problem, I mean, I have this, I've always had this sort of theory, which is like, all roads lead to narcissism.
00:55:45.000And if you can hop on the line on Twitter and say, what happened to Cecil the Lion is a tragedy and it should never happen again and it's not going to happen on my watch or something, then you get to just send out to the heavens that you're a virtuous person.
00:56:24.000Push you down from 50 to 25 and thus I just got a raise in my mind.
00:56:29.000Now it's a horrible math and it's not a way to get yourself any further down the road.
00:56:36.000But if my personality, if my virtue is a seven and yours is a seven, if I can knock you down to a three or minus two, then guess who gets to be at the top of virtue mountain?
00:57:13.000It's fine to be upset about kids on the border, but then go down to the border or write a check to one of the many charitable institutions that are helping those kids on the border.
00:57:25.000I don't need to know how you feel about what's going on at the border or Cecil Line or anything else.
00:57:30.000And I was like, my last tweet, I think my wife got mad about this, but my last tweet was, I told everyone, don't do it in your kid's sink, but you can whiz in your sink if you're tall enough.
00:57:46.000One of the great time savers of life is like brushing your teeth and whizzing in your sink.
00:57:50.000And somebody tweeted me, it turns out you can save millions of gallons of water and they're showing this thing where it's like there's a sink where it's like you pee into it and you wash your hands and it washes the whatever.
00:58:13.000So my tweet, now I'm coming across like a hero on Ben Shapiro's show, but I mean, my tweet was a self-deprecating, not here's what we should do at the border and things need to change.
00:58:51.000Well, it's always a pleasure to have Adam Carolla here again, the godfather of podcasting and also a man with a great many tips about where you should whiz.
00:58:59.000So you get the information and the company from Adam Carolla.
00:59:02.000We'll get you an Apple box and you can join the crowd.
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