The Ben Shapiro Show - All The World's A Stage, And The Play Sucks | Ep. 322

A man drove into a group of Muslims near a mosque in London on Sunday, shouting, "It's Islamophobia! It's anti-Islamic terrorism!" But is there a link between the rise in anti-Muslim hate crimes and the growing threat of radical Islamic terrorism? Ben Shapiro argues that there's no evidence that Islamophobic attacks against Muslims are on the rise across the West, and that it's a deliberate misreading of the situation by people who are politically motivated to wave away the continuing threat of Radical Islamic terrorism. He also talks about Megyn Kelly and Alex Jones, and the situation with alt-right protesters storming the stage of Julius Caesar at Shakespeare in the Park, and how that points to something else that's happening in the modern right-wing movement that is troubling, to say the least. Ben Shapiro is the host of The Ben Shapiro Show on Fox News Radio and host of the Daily Show with Bill Maher. He's also a regular contributor to the New York Times and CNN and hosts the conservative radio show "The Weekly Standard" and hosts a podcast called "The View From The Top" on SiriusXM's The View from the Cheap Seats, where he's a regular guest on conservative radio and radio host on conservative talk radio stations across the country, and hosts his own show on the radio show, "The Right Turn" and radio show on NPR's "The FiveThirtyEight" on the airwaves. Subscribe to his new show on Sirius XM Radio and the FiveThirtysomething. Click here to get 15% off your first purchase of a new Vaynerdcast valued at $150 or more! . Subscribe today using the promo code: CROWN15% discount code CROWN10 at checkout at checkout. at checkout and receive 15% of your first month free shipping and free shipping all year-round shipping and returns, plus a free shipping discount of $5 off your entire order of $50 or $50 off your second month. CROWN 15% OFF your next purchase, plus an additional 15% discount when you use the discount code, CROWNER15% off the middleman Manhattans at checkout? Get 15% all year long when you buy a VMSRP at checkout, use discount code SHIPPING starts at $99 or $95 or $150 at $95, $150, and get $5 or $99, $50, and they'll give you 5% off a maximum of $150.

00:00:00.000 In a horrific act of anti-Muslim terrorism, a 48-year-old man drove a van into a group of Muslims near a mosque in Finsbury Park in London on Sunday.

00:00:07.000 He shouted,

00:00:30.000 The incident's horrific.

00:00:31.000 The perpetrator should spend the rest of his life in prison, because the UK has no death penalty.

00:00:35.000 The left isn't wrong to connect it with an upsurge in anti-Muslim crime.

00:00:38.000 According to London Mayor Sadiq Khan, who has been far too permissive with regard to Islamic radicalism on his own soil, he released police figures that showed, according to Newsweek, quote, Islamophobic attacks had risen fivefold since the ramming and knife assault, a 40% increase in racist attacks.

00:00:52.000 The numbers from London's Metropolitan Police show that anti-Muslim motivated incidents

00:00:57.000 had risen to a daily 2017 average of 4 to as many as 20.

00:01:02.000 But it is wrong to use the anti-Muslim attack as justification for the equivalency between the dangers of the rise of radical Islam and the rise of anti-Muslim xenophobia.

00:01:11.000 That is absurd.

00:01:12.000 Yes, attacks on Muslims have risen, and that is unjustifiable and awful.

00:01:16.000 Major attacks on Muslims by anti-Muslim terrorists are far less common, however, than major radical Muslim attacks on non-Muslims across Europe, and they are supported by no major terrorist group, let alone state actors. 0.97

00:01:27.000 Radical Muslims run states. 0.94

00:01:29.000 Anti-Muslim countries do not exist in the same way. 0.50

00:01:31.000 Even the most extreme anti-Muslim countries have Muslim populations, for example.

00:01:35.000 This London attack marks the first major terror attack in Great Britain against Muslims since 2013, when a Ukrainian student attempted to bomb a mosque in Birmingham and stabbed a young Muslim man to death.

00:01:46.000 If I missed one, I apologize in advance.

00:01:48.000 In the last four months, however, we have seen the Westminster terror attack, the Manchester Arena bombing, and the London Bridge attack. 0.95

00:01:53.000 This is not to suggest that violent anti-Muslim terror attacks are somehow better or less disgusting than violent radical Muslim terror attacks on others.

00:02:01.000 But they are far less statistically frequent, have nearly no global support, and earn the round condemnation of the entire Western world.

00:02:09.000 The left has attempted to broaden the conversation to include individual hate crimes, for example, harassing a woman in a hijab.

00:02:15.000 But if we do that, we also have to include the rate of hate crimes by Muslims against others, e.g.

00:02:19.000 Jews across Europe.

00:02:20.000 We have a moral obligation to fight against terrorism wherever we see it, but to pretend that a widespread anti-Muslim terror network is spreading across the West, organized or disorganized, is a deliberate misreading of the situation by people who are politically motivated to wave away the continuing threat of radical Muslim terrorism.

00:02:38.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

00:02:38.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.

00:02:42.000 All right, so we have a lot to talk about today.

00:02:45.000 I want to talk about what looks like it could be looming war over Syria.

00:02:48.000 President Trump seems to be in a position where the Russians are now trying to push him around in Syria, so we'll talk about that momentarily.

00:02:56.000 We'll also talk about Megyn Kelly and Alex Jones, and I want to talk a fair bit today

00:03:00.000 About the situation with these alt-right protesters storming the stage of Julius Caesar at Shakespeare in the Park, because I think it's indicative of something else that's happening in the modern right-wing movement that is troubling, to say the least.

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00:04:34.000 Okay, so lots and lots of breaking news happening in the news today.

00:04:39.000 So we talked about this terror attack in London.

00:04:40.000 I wanted to lead off with that specifically because I think it's important for those of us who are on the right to point out when these sorts of attacks occur because terror is terror is terror.

00:04:48.000 That doesn't mean the terror movements are all the same.

00:04:51.000 It doesn't mean the terror

00:04:52.000 Other big news today is that the Russian government is basically now threatening war with the United States over Syria, which is

00:05:12.000 You know, I think that they're bluffing.

00:05:13.000 I think there's a pretty solid shot that they are bluffing, but it's dangerous anyway, obviously.

00:05:19.000 Right now, if you look at the situation, basically in Syria, you've got the Kurds all the way up in the north, and then in the west, you have ISIS, which is this big block of territory in the east.

00:05:31.000 And then the rest of the country, sort of everywhere from the southeast to the northwest, is split between the Free Syrian Army, that would be the Syrian rebels, and Bashar Assad's government.

00:05:40.000 Bashar Assad's government is being propped up right now by Vladimir Putin.

00:05:44.000 So, here's the situation.

00:05:45.000 According to CNN,

00:05:47.000 On Sunday, an American jet shot down a Syrian jet.

00:05:51.000 The shoot-down came a little more than two hours after forces allied with the Syrian regime of Bashar al-Assad attacked the north-central Syria town of Jeddin, which was controlled by the Syrian Defense Forces.

00:06:02.000 In accordance with rules of engagement and in collective self-defense of coalition-partnered forces, the Syrian jet was immediately shot down by a U.S.

00:06:10.000 F-A-18E Super Hornet.

00:06:12.000 So I hope that I'm reading that correctly.

00:06:14.000 In any case, we shot down a Syrian jet and the Russians immediately threatened retaliation.

00:06:18.000 The Russian Defense Ministry announced, quote, all kinds of airborne vehicles, including aircraft and UAVs of the international coalition detected west of the Euphrates River, which includes part of Iraq, will be tracked by the Russian SAM systems as air targets.

00:06:31.000 So they're threatening to start shooting down American planes.

00:06:33.000 Once they start threatening to shoot down American planes, then we are on the brink of war.

00:06:39.000 Which is obviously a frightening scenario.

00:06:41.000 This was created by Barack Obama.

00:06:43.000 This has nothing to do with President Trump.

00:06:45.000 President Trump did say during the campaign to Hillary Clinton that her attempt to—her suggestion that we set up a no-fly zone over Syria could lead to World War III.

00:06:54.000 Now it appears that we are engaging in an air war with the Syrians.

00:06:58.000 Is, I think, a not bad move, actually, by President Trump, but I think we have to acknowledge the risks that are entailed here.

00:07:04.000 David French has suggested partition of the country.

00:07:06.000 We support the Kurds up north to create their own independent state, and that we guarantee air coverage over that area, and that we guarantee air coverage over various other areas, but we're playing a dangerous game of chicken with the Russians, and this is all because Barack Obama never had a Syrian strategy and didn't do anything back in 2013 when he could have and should have.

00:07:27.000 Again, I can't blame President Trump for this, and I won't blame President Trump for a situation he was handed by his unbelievably incompetent predecessor.

00:07:34.000 Again, I don't think there's any long-lasting great solution here, but the only solution here is going to be something that nobody really likes very much.

00:07:41.000 Okay, so the big news over the weekend, at least in the domestic political area,

00:07:46.000 We're good to go.

00:08:05.000 ...concept of the play is that Julius Caesar has overweening ambition, but is assassinated by a bunch of senators who want to restore the Republic, and then the entire thing breaks down.

00:08:15.000 The assassination of Caesar is not seen in a particularly good light in the play.

00:08:18.000 The assassination of Caesar is seen as a big mistake by Brutus Cassius and all the conspirators, and the Roman mob is basically whipped into a frenzy by Marc Antony to permanently end democracy and Republicanism in Rome.

00:08:31.000 So, at the very least,

00:08:33.000 You know, if you read the play, it is not clear that the play is in favor of Trump, you know, Trump-Caesar being assassinated, but the imagery is disturbing, obviously.

00:08:40.000 We played it last week, and it, I think, is an obvious and silly representation by the people who decided to do the play.

00:08:48.000 It is not, however, linked, and this is...

00:08:50.000 This annoys me.

00:08:51.000 It is not advocacy or defense of violence, and it is not linked, it is not linked to the assassination attempts on congressional members by this far-left anti-Trump guy.

00:09:00.000 There is no evidence whatsoever that he went and saw the play and then was inspired to do this, even if there had been.

00:09:05.000 I'm deeply uncomfortable with this notion that if you listen to Sean Hannity or Rush Limbaugh and then you go shoot somebody, that it's Sean Hannity or Rush Limbaugh's fault.

00:09:12.000 If they are not advocating violence, it is not their fault. 1.00

00:09:14.000 Okay, this is a game that we can play all day long, but it's a stupid game and it's a counterproductive game. 0.92

00:09:19.000 So, nonetheless, there are a bunch of people who want to get their name in the paper, so they've decided they're gonna rush up on stage at these events. 0.98

00:09:26.000 Now, I am against, as a general rule, snowflakery of all forms.

00:09:31.000 I don't like when people rush on stage when I am speaking.

00:09:35.000 I would be a hypocrite if I said it was okay for people to rush on stage when someone else is speaking.

00:09:39.000 The justification people use when they rush up on stage and try to shut down my speeches, or Ann Coulter's speeches, or Milo's, or Charles Murray's, or Ayaan Hirsi Ali's, or Heather MacDonald's, whenever they do this, what they say is they are trying to prevent hate speech because that hate speech will generate violence. 0.82

00:09:53.000 This is always their excuse.

00:09:55.000 Always.

00:09:56.000 And here is what it looks like when they do these things.

00:09:58.000 And it is bad, okay?

00:09:59.000 This is what happened at Cal State LA back in February 2015.

00:10:03.000 Here is what happened.

00:10:05.000 And this is how it's written.

00:10:09.000 And there it is, gang.

00:10:14.000 Guess what?

00:10:16.000 You know what?

00:10:17.000 They're not going to stop us.

00:10:22.000 They pulled the fire alarm in the middle of the speech.

00:10:24.000 We had footage, but there was a big riot outside.

00:10:26.000 Basically, people were assaulting people in the crowd.

00:10:28.000 It was disgusting then.

00:10:30.000 It is disgusting now.

00:10:31.000 Okay, here is protesters blocking the stage at University of Wisconsin.

00:10:34.000 This is very similar to what just happened at Shakespeare in the Park.

00:10:37.000 I was speaking at University of Wisconsin.

00:10:38.000 A bunch of protesters decided to get up and shout at me and disrupt the proceedings.

00:10:42.000 The police wouldn't do anything about it.

00:10:43.000 And then they all stood in front of the stage and they started blocking the proceedings.

00:10:47.000 Here's what that looked like. 0.89

00:10:53.000 Okay, so again, you know, this notion that I'm unfamiliar with people doing this sort of thing is ridiculous. 0.60

00:11:00.000 Or the notion that I am somehow against this sort of stuff because of cowardice.

00:11:05.000 I go on college campuses all the time and I speak to crowds in which this kind of stuff occurs. 1.00

00:11:11.000 It is always stupid. 1.00

00:11:12.000 It is always gross. 1.00

00:11:13.000 It is always counterproductive.

00:11:15.000 It is always anti-free speech.

00:11:16.000 Over at DePaul University, I risked arrest to walk onto campus.

00:11:19.000 Here is what it looked like when the administration there decided that they would not let me even enter the campus to speak.

00:11:24.000 Now I want to point something out.

00:11:26.000 After they informed me that they would arrest me because it would be trespass, it's a private university.

00:11:30.000 I don't have a right to be there.

00:11:31.000 So I left.

00:11:32.000 Here is what that looked like.

00:11:35.000 Just to be clear, if I attempt to enter that hall right there and sit down just to listen to somebody speak, or if I attempt to ask a question or to engage in free speech, you will have me arrested.

00:11:44.000 At this point, yes, sir.

00:11:46.000 Okay, and so I took all of the people from DePaul and we went to a place off-campus where we then proceeded to engage in our free speech event anyway.

00:11:54.000 So, all of that is prelude to what happened at Shakespeare and Parker. 0.95

00:11:57.000 The reason I put that out there is, number one, because I have lived this experience many times, and number two, because it is wrong when the left does it, and it is similarly stupid and wrong when the right does it, okay? 0.92

00:12:06.000 Here is what happened. 0.94

00:12:07.000 This is on Friday evening.

00:12:11.000 Ladies and gentlemen, we're going to pause.

00:12:12.000 We're going to pause.

00:12:13.000 Security.

00:12:13.000 Security, please.

00:12:52.000 Okay, so they're shouting, liberal hate kills, and this is violence, and then Pasabajabadoo, he gets up and he starts shouting how everybody is, uh, gebbles, and, uh, everyone here is a Nazi, everyone here is gebbles, because they've come to watch a production of Julius Caesar, in which the current leader of the country is portrayed as Julius Caesar, which, by the way, happened in 2011, when a Minneapolis theater portrayed President Obama as this.

00:13:12.000 Now, 0.99

00:13:13.000 I thought it was ridiculous and stupid when the left went insane after a rodeo clown in Missouri dressed up as President Obama. 1.00

00:13:20.000 The left went nuts. 1.00

00:13:21.000 It was ridiculous then. 0.94

00:13:22.000 It is ridiculous now for people to go crazy over a piece of art that they don't like. 1.00

00:13:27.000 It's really, really stupid. 0.99

00:13:29.000 But, that's not stopping the right from now engaging in the same sort of snowflakery. 1.00

00:13:33.000 And make, let me make something clear, okay?

00:13:34.000 People have been acting like this is, oh well, you know, we're just using their tactics against them.

00:13:39.000 No, that's not what this is.

00:13:40.000 Okay, that's not what this is.

00:13:41.000 Because even if the left stopped shutting down my speeches, or Anne's speeches, or Milo's speeches, or any of the rest of these, presumably these alt-right protesters would still go and do this stuff.

00:13:50.000 They would still go and do it.

00:13:51.000 Why?

00:13:52.000 Not because they're trying to demonstrate that the tactic is wrong.

00:13:55.000 They're doing it because they are offended by the content, which makes them right-wing snowflakes.

00:13:59.000 Although they're not even really right-wing, because I have yet to identify their right-wing principles, other than that they don't like the left.

00:14:05.000 It's just insane.

00:14:07.000 Here's Laura Ingraham tweeting about this.

00:14:09.000 She tweeted, quote, First of all, in Minneapolis, none of them stormed the stage. 1.00

00:14:12.000 But second of all, if they did, I would say that was bad and stupid. 0.99

00:14:21.000 I would say that is a dumb thing to do, because you don't have a right to destroy people's place of business. 0.99

00:14:28.000 You don't have a right to interfere with someone else's freedom of speech. 0.90

00:14:32.000 Now this is not the same thing as establishing a mutually assured destruction with regard to boycotts, for example.

00:14:37.000 I have a right to do with my money what I want.

00:14:38.000 You have the right to do with your money what you want.

00:14:40.000 If you want to boycott Chick-fil-A and I want to boycott MSNBC, that is perfectly within our purview.

00:14:45.000 What I cannot do, and what you cannot do, you can't walk down to Chick-fil-A, occupy the place, okay? 1.00

00:14:49.000 When Black Lives Matter did that to a bunch of brunches in New York City, it was stupid, it was counterproductive, and it was gross. 0.99

00:14:55.000 And by the way, it led people to react by electing Donald Trump. 0.99

00:14:58.000 Trump's response to this kind of behavior, by the way, was not to go and shut down leftist events.

00:15:03.000 It was to point out that the left was shutting down his events, which was eminently correct. 1.00

00:15:06.000 So for all the people who keep saying, well, we have to use their strategies because they're winning.

00:15:10.000 No, they are not.

00:15:11.000 They've lost over a thousand seats all across the country.

00:15:14.000 Trump is the president and Republicans control the Congress as well as the Senate. 1.00

00:15:18.000 The notion that the left is winning because of Antifa snowflakes or because of the people at University of Wisconsin shutting things down, it's just idiocy. 1.00

00:15:26.000 It's just idiocy. 1.00

00:15:27.000 So no, that's not even strategically, it's not some sort of strategic genius. 1.00

00:15:31.000 So they do it again on Sunday night.

00:15:33.000 And of course, again, because so much of the right has become tribal instead of smart or conservative, there are a lot of people who have defended this activity, which I'll show you in a second.

00:15:43.000 So here's the second protester jumping on stage on Sunday night.

00:15:46.000 Ladies and gentlemen, we'll pause here briefly. 0.96

00:16:00.000 Liberal hate kills, liberal hate kills. 0.98

00:16:01.000 I've been on the receiving end of this routine from the left, okay? 0.77

00:16:06.000 Verbiage does not kill.

00:16:07.000 Words are not violence.

00:16:08.000 I've preached against this for years, okay?

00:16:11.000 The minute you start suggesting that words are violence, we grow ever closer to violence.

00:16:16.000 The minute you start suggesting that simple political discourse, discourse you don't like, is equivalent to violence, then you are justifying violence in the name of shutting down that discourse. 0.66

00:16:25.000 It's disgusting and it's wrong.

00:16:27.000 Okay, it's wrong and it's just as wrong as when the left does it.

00:16:30.000 I don't understand why I have to explain this to people who are conservative and are supposed to be grounded in a Judeo-Christian value system that suggests the value of other human beings and the value of free speech.

00:16:39.000 It's really quite disgusting and horrifying.

00:16:41.000 Okay, and then a guy gets up and he starts yelling that CNN is ISIS at this situation.

00:16:44.000 Again, very helpful.

00:16:48.000 Hold! 1.00

00:16:49.000 Hold! 1.00

00:16:50.000 Hold! 1.00

00:16:54.000 I just want to point something out.

00:16:55.000 Everybody keeps shouting about Goebbels, okay?

00:16:57.000 Let me point something out about Goebbels and the Nazis.

00:16:59.000 What they actually used to do is shut down Marxist events, okay?

00:17:03.000 If there was a Marxist political event, they would send stormtroopers to shut it down.

00:17:07.000 And not when they were elected, okay?

00:17:10.000 Like independent little Antifa-type groups. 0.99

00:17:13.000 This is just, it's just dumb. 0.97

00:17:14.000 But... 0.98

00:17:15.000 Sean Hannity, who, again, I love Sean Hannity as a person, but Sean is, I think, I think he's pandering to the worst group of people on the right.

00:17:25.000 Sean Hannity tweets this, right?

00:17:27.000 So Sean is tweeting about this last night.

00:17:30.000 I tweeted that this has to stay.

00:17:31.000 He tweeted, wild night.

00:17:32.000 Liberal hate kills, chants protester.

00:17:35.000 Okay, now, Sean gives opinions for a living.

00:17:37.000 He is an opinion host.

00:17:38.000 He is not an objective journalist.

00:17:40.000 When I called him on this, and I said, this is, this is, I said, the left chants conservative hate, conservative hate kills, and you call them snowflakes, which is right. 1.00

00:17:47.000 Stop with this stupidity. 1.00

00:17:48.000 And then Sean tweeted back, Ben, the only person being stupid here is you. 1.00

00:17:52.000 I was tweeting exactly what was said with video. 0.99

00:17:54.000 I'm mature enough to let people decide.

00:17:57.000 But do you have an opinion?

00:17:58.000 Do you have an opinion on this, Sean?

00:18:00.000 I mean, and then later, Sean did express his opinion, which is that he thinks it's perfectly fine that they shut this thing down because it was disrespectful to the President of the United States, and in his opinion, it was forwarding violence.

00:18:09.000 Again, I'm gonna be...

00:18:12.000 God forbid somebody should shoot a person on the left, and the shooter happens to be somebody who once listened to Sean Hannity's show.

00:18:20.000 I was somebody who, two weeks ago, two freaking weeks ago, two weeks ago, folks, I was sitting here defending Sean Hannity from boycott over the Seth Rich stuff.

00:18:30.000 Okay, but the entire left was going after him, and what did Sean say?

00:18:34.000 He said, just because I was covering a story in a particular way doesn't mean that the left should target me for destruction.

00:18:41.000 Okay, so all of this is highly irritating, and I want to talk about a few more points I have to make on this before I get to how the left has reacted to the shooting, because the left is reacting just as abysmally as you would expect them to.

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00:20:19.000 For free and you can go check it out right now and remember use that promo code Okay, so a couple of more points on this because I think that this is important I think it goes deep to the heart of what the conservative movement wants to be Do we want to be a movement that?

00:20:31.000 Suggests that we are going to shut down the left when we don't like what they say Or are we gonna be a movement that actually has some principles now?

00:20:37.000 There are a lot of people on the right who have been started using this this phrase my principles muh principles my print like as opposed to my principles and the idea is that you're a baby because you're whining about my principles Oh

00:20:50.000 You have principles, too.

00:20:51.000 If you're one of these people, you have principles, too.

00:20:53.000 But you need to name them for me.

00:20:54.000 Because those principles obviously don't include the idea that you don't get to destroy somebody's establishment just because you don't like what they're saying.

00:21:01.000 I assume, and now you say your principle is winning.

00:21:03.000 That's not a principle.

00:21:04.000 That is a goal.

00:21:05.000 Okay?

00:21:06.000 A principle is something that you are willing to lose to uphold.

00:21:08.000 Okay?

00:21:09.000 What are you willing to sacrifice in order to uphold the principle?

00:21:13.000 I am willing to sacrifice the notion that a play offends me based on the principle that you shouldn't shut down free speech even for people I don't like.

00:21:22.000 I'm willing to sacrifice that.

00:21:23.000 By the way, I don't think they're winning because of that.

00:21:26.000 Freedom of speech is a principle.

00:21:29.000 Storming my speeches.

00:21:30.000 Storming plays.

00:21:31.000 It is wrong.

00:21:31.000 It's wrong whether we do it.

00:21:33.000 It is wrong whether they do it.

00:21:34.000 Not the same thing as an economic boycott.

00:21:36.000 And there's that other principle that I mentioned too.

00:21:38.000 That words are not violence.

00:21:40.000 I've spent my entire career saying words are not violence.

00:21:42.000 The left says they are violence.

00:21:43.000 And now we've got half the right saying that words are violence.

00:21:45.000 This is the predicate to legislation to tamp down on speech in order... This is how you get to Canada.

00:21:50.000 You wanna know how you get to Canadian version of free speech?

00:21:52.000 Where people get sued for things that they don't like?

00:21:55.000 The reason is because there are a bunch of people who say that it causes violence.

00:21:58.000 And then there's the tactical argument.

00:21:59.000 So my friend John Nolte, who I love, I love John, okay, but John wrote this piece today, Attacking Me By Name, and because at Daily Wire I want to have a site where we have a multiplicity of viewpoints, I printed it.

00:22:09.000 He used the My Principles line, I printed it.

00:22:11.000 I disagreed with every word of it, including and, and the.

00:22:14.000 He talks about how these people storming Julius Caesar, it was like Lincoln suspending habeas corpus. 0.75

00:22:19.000 Okay, this is just ridiculous to me for a couple of reasons.

00:22:22.000 One, Lincoln suspended habeas corpus during an actual civil war.

00:22:26.000 Like, there was a war on.

00:22:28.000 If we're gonna use wartime morality in peacetime, we're pretty soon gonna be in a war.

00:22:32.000 Like, there will be an actual war if we use wartime morality in peacetime.

00:22:35.000 Okay, don't quote Sherman unless you're willing to burn Atlanta.

00:22:39.000 Furthermore, if we're going to pretend that the left is winning because they, as John says, break windows, hurl eggs, shoot us, shout us down, they're not.

00:22:46.000 They're losing because of all of this.

00:22:48.000 The more extreme the left becomes, the more they lose.

00:22:51.000 The left's insanity drove the right to victory across the country.

00:22:53.000 Let's not pretend that Donald Trump came along and suddenly the right won.

00:22:56.000 The right had won a thousand seats across the country.

00:22:59.000 The right had won back the House and the Senate before Donald Trump was even mentioned as a presidential candidate.

00:23:04.000 Okay?

00:23:05.000 Trump did a lot of good things.

00:23:06.000 One of the things he did was he called out the left when he did this stuff.

00:23:08.000 One of the things he did not do was attempt to shut down leftist speech.

00:23:12.000 John asked for a plan.

00:23:13.000 He said, so what's your plan if you're not storming stages?

00:23:15.000 Here's my plan.

00:23:16.000 Speak on college campuses, point out to the press as loudly and as often as possible when they refuse to allow us to speak.

00:23:23.000 And by the way, it works.

00:23:24.000 Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, Barack Obama, all have come out against the college snowflakery that is now being evidenced from the right.

00:23:31.000 And finally, there's a morality of the tactics question.

00:23:33.000 Okay?

00:23:34.000 Some of these tactics are just not moral.

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The Ben Shapiro Show - June 19, 2017

All The World's A Stage, And The Play Sucks | Ep. 322

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