The Ben Shapiro Show - July 01, 2026


Americans Don't Like Open Borders, Here's Why

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sanctuary policies deportation popularity balance of nature
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Ben Shapiro
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Sheridan Gorman Renee Good Representative Raskin Jessica Gorman Alex Freddie Trump Pramila Jayapal Craig Melvin Laura Coates Mike Lawler Alex Preddy Chris Ruffo Ezra Klein
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In the wake of the shooting of a Loyola University of Chicago student by an illegal immigrant, the mother of the victim, Jessica Gorman, called on Democrats in Congress to join her in her outrage. But they refused.

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00:00:00 So, yesterday, the mother of a Loyola student from Chicago was murdered by an illegal immigrant thanks to sanctuary city policies.
00:00:14 It was Jessica Gorman.
00:00:16 Her daughter was Sheridan Gorman.
00:00:17 You remember, this is a very fraught issue in the middle of the election cycle.
00:00:22 Democrats were having none of it because Democrats do not want to talk about the cost of illegal immigration.
00:00:26 Representative Pramila Jayapal, head of the House Congressional Progressive Caucus, here's what she had to say.
00:00:33 Unfortunately, this hearing is the fourth time in this committee that we've had a hearing on sanctuary cities.
00:00:41 The fourth time.
00:00:43 And there are many other things that we could be doing other than this.
00:00:49 Oh, many, many other things.
00:00:51 Many other things.
00:00:52 Well, Sheridan Gorman's mother, Jessica, said, You know, I've noticed that you seem to not really care about what happened to my daughter.
00:00:59 I don't understand why it's only the Republican side that cares about our American children.
00:01:04 And I know that you're a mother.
00:01:06 I know that you're a father.
00:01:07 I deeply value that.
00:01:08 But basically, what you just did, what you said was, I'm so sorry for your loss.
00:01:13 I have a daughter too.
00:01:14 I have a son.
00:01:15 I feel your pain.
00:01:16 You don't.
00:01:17 You don't feel my pain.
00:01:18 Because the next words out of your mouth were, but.
00:01:22 There's no but.
00:01:23 When your child is in a coffin, there's no but.
00:01:27 And I need you to understand that.
00:01:28 And if you ever want to talk about it, I'm here.
00:01:30 I'm going to buy you a bench.
00:01:31 I'm going to buy, you can put that on the record.
00:01:33 I'm going to buy Congress a bench. 0.93
00:01:35 And they can come and sit and hold my hand and look me in the eye and explain to me why illegal immigrants are more important than my daughter.
00:01:46 Okay, well, Democrats then reiterated that they kind of believe that illegal immigrants are more important than her daughter.
00:01:54 Representative Mike Lawler and Representative Jamie Raskin got into it because Raskin was basically giving short shrift to the mother.
00:02:01 The same outrage you feel about Renee Good and Alex Pretty, you should feel about Sheridan Gorman and Lincoln Riley.
00:02:08 And every angel family in this country.
00:02:11 I do feel that outrage.
00:02:12 But you do not.
00:02:13 Because if you did, you would not support sanctuary policies.
00:02:16 You feel the outrage about Alex Freddie and Renee yourself.
00:02:19 You should be ashamed of yourself.
00:02:20 You don't belong in this committee. 1.00
00:02:21 You should get the hell out of here. 0.99
00:02:22 You don't understand the rules of the committee. 0.97
00:02:25 You don't understand the Constitution. 1.00
00:02:26 You're a disgrace. 1.00
00:02:26 You're full of it. 1.00
00:02:27 You're actually full of disgrace supporting sanctuary policies.
00:02:30 Say one word about it.
00:02:31 Say one word about Alex Freddie and Renee.
00:02:34 I did.
00:02:34 I wrote a whole New York Times op ed about it.
00:02:37 You should be absolutely ashamed of yourself, Mr. President, in opposing sanctuary policies.
00:02:42 That resulted in their daughter's death.
00:02:46 Again, not a winning issue for Democrats here.
00:02:47 Not a winning issue.
00:02:48 Ezra Klein over at the New York Times full on concedes to Chris Ruffo that, you know, all of the concerns about rapid demographic change through mass migration are not unfair, not wrong, not racist.
00:03:02 There are people who just don't like the way their community is changing, and there's the KKK, right?
00:03:07 Everything exists on a spectrum.
00:03:09 But would you say someone who is, like, for example, hesitant about rapid large scale demographic change?
00:03:16 Is just a kind of 1% white nationalist?
00:03:19 Yeah, because that would be like the majority of the country.
00:03:21 Yes, I don't think it is a problem or unfair or even wrong to worry about large scale rapid demographic change.
00:03:30 Democrats open border policies, they're not a winning issue.
00:03:33 And now that the Supreme Court has granted birthright citizenship, everybody's eyes are on Congress and rightly so. 0.71
00:03:38 But what did Democrats in Congress do yesterday? 1.00
00:03:41 Well, they dismissed outright the mother of Sheridan Gorman, the Loyola University student who was shot in the head by an illegal immigrant just a few months back.
00:03:48 Americans aren't fond of this.
00:03:49 There's a very good reason why there is still broad support for President Trump's general immigration agenda.
00:03:54 Maybe not the enforcement, but definitely the actual agenda.
00:03:58 So let's go through some of the polling data about how Americans feel on illegal immigration because the attitudes are relatively stable.
00:04:05 Pew Research did some polling on this back in March of 2025.
00:04:09 And what it showed is that 97% of people who say that they favor some immigrants being deported.
00:04:19 So let's go to the Pew polling.
00:04:22 You can start the clock again.
00:04:23 So let's look at some Pew polling data about what Americans believe on immigration.
00:04:27 This is from March 2025.
00:04:29 Total, only 16% of Americans believe nobody should be deported.
00:04:33 16%.
00:04:35 So, if that is the kind of general overall Democratic position, it's crazy.
00:04:39 32% say all.
00:04:40 So, again, the kind of full scale deport every single human position is a minority position in the United States.
00:04:47 51%, a vast plurality and a sheer majority say some.
00:04:51 So, when you break it down, 97% of people in that 51% say, that if you've committed a violent crime, you should be deported.
00:05:02 So obviously the Trump administration ought to focus on that and they have and they ought to keep focusing on that.
00:05:08 Half of those people still say that if you've committed a nonviolent crime, you should be deported.
00:05:13 So that means total, a majority of the American population believes that you should be deported for committing a nonviolent crime. 0.81
00:05:18 Well, it turns out that illegal immigrants are constantly committing nonviolent crimes using a fake social security number, using a fake ID. 0.83
00:05:25 That's fraud. 0.97
00:05:26 These are nonviolent crimes.
00:05:28 Obviously being in the country illegally is what's called a civil offense. 0.67
00:05:32 The reason it's called a civil offense Is not because it's not bad.
00:05:35 People tend to think civil means not that bad, criminal means really, really bad.
00:05:37 That's not how it works.
00:05:39 A civil offense means it's adjudicated by a civil court, meaning you don't need a full trial with a jury.
00:05:44 It's done in front of a judge, and you don't have a right to counsel in quite the same way and all the rest of it.
00:05:49 Why?
00:05:50 Well, because the punishment is deportation, not jail time.
00:05:52 Okay, but what does that mean?
00:05:55 It means that, again, a majority of Americans believe that illegal immigrants who have committed nonviolent crimes should be deported.
00:06:03 Some 44% of the 51% who say that some people should be deported.
00:06:07 Say that if you've arrived in the country in the last four years, you should be deported.
00:06:13 Again, that right there, 44% of 51%. 0.96
00:06:19 And again, I'm going to do some quick typing in of the math.
00:06:23 You put that together with the number of people who believe that everyone should be deported.
00:06:26 And you are, again, talking about a majority of the American population that believes that if you've arrived in the last four years, you should be sent away if you came illegally.
00:06:33 Now, where the support starts to fall off a cliff for Republicans is when you get to have a job.
00:06:40 Only 15% of people who believe that some should be deported believe that if you have a job, you should be deported.
00:06:49 If you are parents of a child born in the United States, only 14% of that 51% believe that you should be deported, which means that total, you're only talking about 39% of Americans who believe that if you are parents of children born in the U.S., you should be deported.
00:07:04 So it's a minority political position to just deport people who are the parents of American born children.
00:07:13 If you're married to a U.S. citizen, the numbers are even lower.
00:07:15 So, who are the people Americans want to see go?
00:07:17 They want to see people who have committed crimes or who have come very recently go. 0.50
00:07:22 Well, good news for those who are in favor of large scale deportations that encompasses a gigantic swath of illegal immigration in the country.
00:07:31 Because, again, a lot of people committing crimes.
00:07:33 And again, we're not talking about shooting somebody or rape or burglary or something.
00:07:37 We are talking here about any sort of crime work fraud, misuse of visa, right?
00:07:43 All these things are crimes.
00:07:45 And so the idea of deporting those people is not a terrible idea.
00:07:49 But here is what is clearly unpopular on the other side of the ledger.
00:07:53 The Democratic position, which is that pretty much nobody should be deported and that we don't care about illegal immigration, that it's not a major issue for Americans, that is a vast minority position.
00:08:04 A vast minority position, clearly.
00:08:08 And again, when you look at people who suggest, for example, that immigrations and deportations should be carried out regularly, American independence.
00:08:21 Are mostly on the side of Republicans on this sort of stuff.
00:08:25 A majority of US adults across demographic groups say immigrants in the country illegally should be deported.
00:08:31 Again, virtually no one believes that none should be deported.
00:08:36 That is only even a large scale position among young people, 24% of whom believe no one should be deported.
00:08:43 But among young people, by the way, 25% say everyone should be deported.
00:08:46 So it's pretty evenly split there.
00:08:50 So, sort of fascinating to see that breakdown, but a good reminder that this is a winning issue for Republicans.
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00:10:02 So, there was one good Supreme Court decision yesterday, which basically said that it turns out you don't have to have boys compete against girls in sports.
00:10:10 The media couldn't handle it because the legacy media are, of course, the left.
00:10:13 They are identical.
00:10:14 NBC's Craig Melvin basically refused to use the term male and female, biological male and female, because we all have to pretend along with the legacy media that sometimes girls are boys.
00:10:27 Just a quick note here the terms that we're using here during our reporting.
00:10:32 Biological male, biological female.
00:10:35 The high court put those terms in quotations in their decision and their dissent.
00:10:41 But just so you know, we're using those terms from the decision itself biological male, biological female.
00:10:50 Okay.
00:10:51 Again, it's just amazing.
00:10:53 The media will continue with this.
00:10:54 They will never let go of it. 0.97
00:10:55 CNN's Laura Coates called women's sports so called girl sports. 0.74
00:10:59 What else would you call them? 1.00
00:11:02 Weak people's sports?
00:11:03 What are we supposed to call them? 0.95
00:11:04 Like, give me a substitute name for it that makes any sense here.
00:11:09 This is a monumental decision, not unexpected, however, given how the oral arguments went.
00:11:12 Here was the crux of the issue it was whether or not somebody who was assigned the male gender at birth would be allowed to play in a traditionally so called girls' sports in a public, a high school, or of course in the college setting. 0.90
00:11:29 Man, their lack of ability to actually make basic linguistic distinctions is insane. 0.97
00:11:34 So called girls' sports, what is it? 0.99
00:11:37 What are we even talking about? 1.00
00:11:38 Here's the problem for the Democrats.
00:11:38 Okay, so.
00:11:39 The radicals are in charge of the party.
00:11:41 So the radicals are going to take the 20% position on some pretty obvious issues.
00:11:46 And they have the upper hand in the Democratic Party, without a doubt.
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