The Ben Shapiro Show - July 01, 2026


Americans Don't Like Open Borders, Here's Why

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sanctuary policies deportation popularity balance of nature
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Ben Shapiro
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Sheridan Gorman Renee Good Representative Raskin Jessica Gorman Alex Freddie Trump Pramila Jayapal Craig Melvin Laura Coates Mike Lawler Alex Preddy Chris Ruffo Ezra Klein
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In the wake of the shooting of a Loyola University of Chicago student by an illegal immigrant, the mother of the victim, Jessica Gorman, called on Democrats in Congress to join her in her outrage. But they refused.

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00:00:00.000 So, yesterday, the mother of a Loyola student from Chicago was murdered by an illegal immigrant thanks to sanctuary city policies.
00:00:14.000 It was Jessica Gorman.
00:00:16.000 Her daughter was Sheridan Gorman.
00:00:17.000 You remember, this is a very fraught issue in the middle of the election cycle.
00:00:22.000 Democrats were having none of it because Democrats do not want to talk about the cost of illegal immigration.
00:00:26.000 Representative Pramila Jayapal, head of the House Congressional Progressive Caucus, here's what she had to say.
00:00:33.000 Unfortunately, this hearing is the fourth time in this committee that we've had a hearing on sanctuary cities.
00:00:41.000 The fourth time.
00:00:43.000 And there are many other things that we could be doing other than this.
00:00:49.000 Oh, many, many other things.
00:00:51.000 Many other things.
00:00:52.000 Well, Sheridan Gorman's mother, Jessica, said, You know, I've noticed that you seem to not really care about what happened to my daughter.
00:00:59.000 I don't understand why it's only the Republican side that cares about our American children.
00:01:04.000 And I know that you're a mother.
00:01:06.000 I know that you're a father.
00:01:07.000 I deeply value that.
00:01:08.000 But basically, what you just did, what you said was, I'm so sorry for your loss.
00:01:13.000 I have a daughter too.
00:01:14.000 I have a son.
00:01:15.000 I feel your pain.
00:01:16.000 You don't.
00:01:17.000 You don't feel my pain.
00:01:18.000 Because the next words out of your mouth were, but.
00:01:22.000 There's no but.
00:01:23.000 When your child is in a coffin, there's no but.
00:01:27.000 And I need you to understand that.
00:01:28.000 And if you ever want to talk about it, I'm here.
00:01:30.000 I'm going to buy you a bench.
00:01:31.000 I'm going to buy, you can put that on the record.
00:01:33.000 I'm going to buy Congress a bench. 0.93
00:01:35.000 And they can come and sit and hold my hand and look me in the eye and explain to me why illegal immigrants are more important than my daughter.
00:01:46.000 Okay, well, Democrats then reiterated that they kind of believe that illegal immigrants are more important than her daughter.
00:01:54.000 Representative Mike Lawler and Representative Jamie Raskin got into it because Raskin was basically giving short shrift to the mother.
00:02:01.000 The same outrage you feel about Renee Good and Alex Pretty, you should feel about Sheridan Gorman and Lincoln Riley.
00:02:08.000 And every angel family in this country.
00:02:11.000 I do feel that outrage.
00:02:12.000 But you do not.
00:02:13.000 Because if you did, you would not support sanctuary policies.
00:02:16.000 You feel the outrage about Alex Freddie and Renee yourself.
00:02:19.000 You should be ashamed of yourself.
00:02:20.000 You don't belong in this committee. 1.00
00:02:21.000 You should get the hell out of here. 0.99
00:02:22.000 You don't understand the rules of the committee. 0.97
00:02:25.000 You don't understand the Constitution. 1.00
00:02:26.000 You're a disgrace. 1.00
00:02:26.000 You're full of it. 1.00
00:02:27.000 You're actually full of disgrace supporting sanctuary policies.
00:02:30.000 Say one word about it.
00:02:31.000 Say one word about Alex Freddie and Renee.
00:02:34.000 I did.
00:02:34.000 I wrote a whole New York Times op ed about it.
00:02:37.000 You should be absolutely ashamed of yourself, Mr. President, in opposing sanctuary policies.
00:02:42.000 That resulted in their daughter's death.
00:02:46.000 Again, not a winning issue for Democrats here.
00:02:47.000 Not a winning issue.
00:02:48.000 Ezra Klein over at the New York Times full on concedes to Chris Ruffo that, you know, all of the concerns about rapid demographic change through mass migration are not unfair, not wrong, not racist.
00:03:02.000 There are people who just don't like the way their community is changing, and there's the KKK, right?
00:03:07.000 Everything exists on a spectrum.
00:03:09.000 But would you say someone who is, like, for example, hesitant about rapid large scale demographic change?
00:03:16.000 Is just a kind of 1% white nationalist?
00:03:19.000 Yeah, because that would be like the majority of the country.
00:03:21.000 Yes, I don't think it is a problem or unfair or even wrong to worry about large scale rapid demographic change.
00:03:30.000 Democrats open border policies, they're not a winning issue.
00:03:33.000 And now that the Supreme Court has granted birthright citizenship, everybody's eyes are on Congress and rightly so. 0.71
00:03:38.000 But what did Democrats in Congress do yesterday? 1.00
00:03:41.000 Well, they dismissed outright the mother of Sheridan Gorman, the Loyola University student who was shot in the head by an illegal immigrant just a few months back.
00:03:48.000 Americans aren't fond of this.
00:03:49.000 There's a very good reason why there is still broad support for President Trump's general immigration agenda.
00:03:54.000 Maybe not the enforcement, but definitely the actual agenda.
00:03:58.000 So let's go through some of the polling data about how Americans feel on illegal immigration because the attitudes are relatively stable.
00:04:05.000 Pew Research did some polling on this back in March of 2025.
00:04:09.000 And what it showed is that 97% of people who say that they favor some immigrants being deported.
00:04:19.000 So let's go to the Pew polling.
00:04:22.000 You can start the clock again.
00:04:23.000 So let's look at some Pew polling data about what Americans believe on immigration.
00:04:27.000 This is from March 2025.
00:04:29.000 Total, only 16% of Americans believe nobody should be deported.
00:04:33.000 16%.
00:04:35.000 So, if that is the kind of general overall Democratic position, it's crazy.
00:04:39.000 32% say all.
00:04:40.000 So, again, the kind of full scale deport every single human position is a minority position in the United States.
00:04:47.000 51%, a vast plurality and a sheer majority say some.
00:04:51.000 So, when you break it down, 97% of people in that 51% say, that if you've committed a violent crime, you should be deported.
00:05:02.000 So obviously the Trump administration ought to focus on that and they have and they ought to keep focusing on that.
00:05:08.000 Half of those people still say that if you've committed a nonviolent crime, you should be deported.
00:05:13.000 So that means total, a majority of the American population believes that you should be deported for committing a nonviolent crime. 0.81
00:05:18.000 Well, it turns out that illegal immigrants are constantly committing nonviolent crimes using a fake social security number, using a fake ID. 0.83
00:05:25.000 That's fraud. 0.97
00:05:26.000 These are nonviolent crimes.
00:05:28.000 Obviously being in the country illegally is what's called a civil offense. 0.67
00:05:32.000 The reason it's called a civil offense Is not because it's not bad.
00:05:35.000 People tend to think civil means not that bad, criminal means really, really bad.
00:05:37.000 That's not how it works.
00:05:39.000 A civil offense means it's adjudicated by a civil court, meaning you don't need a full trial with a jury.
00:05:44.000 It's done in front of a judge, and you don't have a right to counsel in quite the same way and all the rest of it.
00:05:49.000 Why?
00:05:50.000 Well, because the punishment is deportation, not jail time.
00:05:52.000 Okay, but what does that mean?
00:05:55.000 It means that, again, a majority of Americans believe that illegal immigrants who have committed nonviolent crimes should be deported.
00:06:03.000 Some 44% of the 51% who say that some people should be deported.
00:06:07.000 Say that if you've arrived in the country in the last four years, you should be deported.
00:06:13.000 Again, that right there, 44% of 51%. 0.96
00:06:19.000 And again, I'm going to do some quick typing in of the math.
00:06:23.000 You put that together with the number of people who believe that everyone should be deported.
00:06:26.000 And you are, again, talking about a majority of the American population that believes that if you've arrived in the last four years, you should be sent away if you came illegally.
00:06:33.000 Now, where the support starts to fall off a cliff for Republicans is when you get to have a job.
00:06:40.000 Only 15% of people who believe that some should be deported believe that if you have a job, you should be deported.
00:06:49.000 If you are parents of a child born in the United States, only 14% of that 51% believe that you should be deported, which means that total, you're only talking about 39% of Americans who believe that if you are parents of children born in the U.S., you should be deported.
00:07:04.000 So it's a minority political position to just deport people who are the parents of American born children.
00:07:13.000 If you're married to a U.S. citizen, the numbers are even lower.
00:07:15.000 So, who are the people Americans want to see go?
00:07:17.000 They want to see people who have committed crimes or who have come very recently go. 0.50
00:07:22.000 Well, good news for those who are in favor of large scale deportations that encompasses a gigantic swath of illegal immigration in the country.
00:07:31.000 Because, again, a lot of people committing crimes.
00:07:33.000 And again, we're not talking about shooting somebody or rape or burglary or something.
00:07:37.000 We are talking here about any sort of crime work fraud, misuse of visa, right?
00:07:43.000 All these things are crimes.
00:07:45.000 And so the idea of deporting those people is not a terrible idea.
00:07:49.000 But here is what is clearly unpopular on the other side of the ledger.
00:07:53.000 The Democratic position, which is that pretty much nobody should be deported and that we don't care about illegal immigration, that it's not a major issue for Americans, that is a vast minority position.
00:08:04.000 A vast minority position, clearly.
00:08:08.000 And again, when you look at people who suggest, for example, that immigrations and deportations should be carried out regularly, American independence.
00:08:21.000 Are mostly on the side of Republicans on this sort of stuff.
00:08:25.000 A majority of US adults across demographic groups say immigrants in the country illegally should be deported.
00:08:31.000 Again, virtually no one believes that none should be deported.
00:08:36.000 That is only even a large scale position among young people, 24% of whom believe no one should be deported.
00:08:43.000 But among young people, by the way, 25% say everyone should be deported.
00:08:46.000 So it's pretty evenly split there.
00:08:50.000 So, sort of fascinating to see that breakdown, but a good reminder that this is a winning issue for Republicans.
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00:10:02.000 So, there was one good Supreme Court decision yesterday, which basically said that it turns out you don't have to have boys compete against girls in sports.
00:10:10.000 The media couldn't handle it because the legacy media are, of course, the left.
00:10:13.000 They are identical.
00:10:14.000 NBC's Craig Melvin basically refused to use the term male and female, biological male and female, because we all have to pretend along with the legacy media that sometimes girls are boys.
00:10:27.000 Just a quick note here the terms that we're using here during our reporting.
00:10:32.000 Biological male, biological female.
00:10:35.000 The high court put those terms in quotations in their decision and their dissent.
00:10:41.000 But just so you know, we're using those terms from the decision itself biological male, biological female.
00:10:50.000 Okay.
00:10:51.000 Again, it's just amazing.
00:10:53.000 The media will continue with this.
00:10:54.000 They will never let go of it. 0.97
00:10:55.000 CNN's Laura Coates called women's sports so called girl sports. 0.74
00:10:59.000 What else would you call them? 1.00
00:11:02.000 Weak people's sports?
00:11:03.000 What are we supposed to call them? 0.95
00:11:04.000 Like, give me a substitute name for it that makes any sense here.
00:11:09.000 This is a monumental decision, not unexpected, however, given how the oral arguments went.
00:11:12.000 Here was the crux of the issue it was whether or not somebody who was assigned the male gender at birth would be allowed to play in a traditionally so called girls' sports in a public, a high school, or of course in the college setting. 0.90
00:11:29.000 Man, their lack of ability to actually make basic linguistic distinctions is insane. 0.97
00:11:34.000 So called girls' sports, what is it? 0.99
00:11:37.000 What are we even talking about? 1.00
00:11:38.000 Here's the problem for the Democrats.
00:11:38.000 Okay, so.
00:11:39.000 The radicals are in charge of the party.
00:11:41.000 So the radicals are going to take the 20% position on some pretty obvious issues.
00:11:46.000 And they have the upper hand in the Democratic Party, without a doubt.
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