The Ben Shapiro Show - August 21, 2026


An ISIS Supporter Just Tried to Bomb the New York Capitol


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00:00:00.000 So, if you say that Islam is incompatible with Western values, you are called an Islamophobe now. 0.91
00:00:06.000 Is that true? 0.99
00:00:07.000 Is that true?
00:00:08.000 You may have heard of the Red Green Alliance, or maybe you've seen a clip of Charlie Kirk saying Islam is at odds with Western civilization.
00:00:13.000 But I think we actually need to delve deeper into that.
00:00:16.000 What are we talking about?
00:00:17.000 We're going to break it all down for you today. 0.98
00:00:18.000 Plus, we look at an insane story out of New York where an apparently normal left wing chick turned into a full fledged ISIS supporter with a plan to blow up state senators.
00:00:26.000 And Sarah Adams, a CIA targeting officer, joins us to talk about fighting Islamic terrorists on American soil. 0.90
00:00:32.000 So it turns out that when you have toxic females, sometimes they can even turn terrorists. 0.64
00:00:37.000 According to the New York Post, Jessica Bowie, 35 from Albany, allegedly began strategizing an attack in July to bomb the state capital of New York. 1.00
00:00:47.000 Her goal was to place a bomb in a DoorDash food delivery bag.
00:00:50.000 She purchased bomb materials from a Home Depot on August 5th and planned the attack with the help of FBI informants for two weeks, according to the feds.
00:00:57.000 She sent one of the informants pictures of downtown Albany with the capital circled, indicating that was the building she wanted to target.
00:01:04.000 She said that she wanted to do it on a day when, quote, we know senators will be meeting.
00:01:08.000 I want them to lose a lot of important documents as well.
00:01:10.000 And, quote, I want it to have effect on the American system and destroy some of the Tagut. 0.98
00:01:16.000 That is anything worshiped instead of Allah.
00:01:18.000 In a message, she said she wanted to target my state capital, ideally, in a way I could get away with and hop on a plane to ISIS controlled territory in Syria afterward.
00:01:26.000 So the DOJ has now charged her with attempting to provide material support or resources to designated foreign terrorist organizations.
00:01:33.000 So, what the hell happened here?
00:01:34.000 Well, here is Jessica Bowie in 2014. 0.98
00:01:37.000 Is this like a radical ISIS terrorist to you, or does this look like a radical blue hair? 1.00
00:01:42.000 She's got the septum ring, she's got the whole thing going on. 1.00
00:01:46.000 She looks like a normal goth chick who's overweight at a local university. 1.00
00:01:53.000 That's what she looks like. 1.00
00:01:54.000 And then she ended up in the arms of radical Islam. 0.88
00:01:56.000 Here is tape of her purchasing nails at the hardware store. 0.93
00:02:01.000 You can see her there, dressed up in like the full regalia.
00:02:04.000 And she's got like the full burqa on. 0.99
00:02:08.000 Again, like the fact that people are dressing that way in America, I tend to be pretty loose about what I think people should wear in America. 0.99
00:02:15.000 It seems to me that there is not a really great argument that people in America should be wearing around full beekeeper outfits. 0.94
00:02:24.000 It's hard for me to imagine there is no compulsion whatsoever in the ideology of women wearing full on Doc Brown radioactivity uniforms to the Home Depot. 0.81
00:02:39.000 In any case, she converted to Islam five years ago.
00:02:42.000 She began by going by the Islamic honorific name of Aisha Saif.
00:02:46.000 She's a frequent social media user who created 12 plus profiles on different platforms to espouse anti American messages. 0.90
00:02:53.000 On May 8th, she said, When I can migrate to ISIS held territory, I will poison these infidels.
00:02:58.000 On May 28th, she posted, Praise be to Allah for September 11th. 0.98
00:03:02.000 So I guess she's a Hatton Piker fan.
00:03:04.000 She also discussed her belief that jihad is an obligation until the day of judgment to establish God's laws and enjoin good and forbid evil and fight until there is no fitna, that is temptation.
00:03:12.000 And then she recorded herself reciting a pledge of allegiance to ISIS, according to the FBI. 0.55
00:03:19.000 And she wanted to encourage others to take the bayah, that's the oath to ISIS.
00:03:23.000 She said she wanted to send authentic information to Muslims in my community to try to guide them to pure Tawid, that is ISIS's definition of Islam, speak about jihad as openly as I can without getting arrested, and encourage secular Muslims online to join the Islamic State and send them authentic materials. 0.53
00:03:39.000 She had also picked up some anarchist literature at the Social Justice Center, which she thought might have some good tips. 0.86
00:03:44.000 Inshallah.
00:03:47.000 So she seems like a full scale delight, by the way.
00:03:53.000 They have the entire timeline in the complaint.
00:03:57.000 She was arrested and she said, There's no helping me.
00:03:59.000 You guys know enough.
00:04:00.000 There's no helping me.
00:04:01.000 I'm going to prison for the rest of my life.
00:04:03.000 She told an informant she went from a little girl waving an American flag after 9 11 to now having stickers of the falling towers.
00:04:10.000 Again, much of what she says has become commonplace, except for the actual terrorist act.
00:04:17.000 And Democrats are running with a guy who says the same exact things about 9 11.
00:04:21.000 Hassan Piker says, well, he walked it back.
00:04:23.000 I'm not sure how you walk back exactly.
00:04:25.000 America deserved 9 11. 0.56
00:04:26.000 What changed in his ideology about America deserving 9 11?
00:04:30.000 And when you walk something back, you should be able to explain why you walked it back other than just political convenience.
00:04:35.000 Here's Hassan Piker saying stuff that presumably this would be terrorist agrees with.
00:04:41.000 This is so insane.
00:04:45.000 America deserved 9 11, dude.
00:04:47.000 I'm saying it. 0.99
00:04:50.000 I mean, like a couple of weeks ago, he literally put up the newspaper of 9 11 on his wall in his office.
00:04:56.000 Now, Kathy Hochul, because she wishes to draw from this crowd for her political movement, She put out a statement that literally does not mention ISIS or radical Islam or terrorism at all.
00:05:06.000 She said, Today, the U.S. Department of Justice and FBI announced the arrest of an individual who allegedly plotted an attack on the New York State Capitol.
00:05:13.000 Well, I mean, who could it have been?
00:05:15.000 Maybe it was an animal rights protester.
00:05:16.000 Who knows?
00:05:18.000 Zorhan Mamdani put out his own tweet in which he acknowledged that there was an ISIS inspired plot, but that was pretty much it.
00:05:26.000 Now, if this had been a white supremacist inspired plot, you would have gotten seven paragraphs about American white supremacy.
00:05:31.000 But if it was an ISIS inspired plot, Then that's pretty much all you got to say.
00:05:35.000 There is no place for terrorism or political violence in our city, our state, or anywhere in our country.
00:05:39.000 And one of the things that really annoys me about politics is when you draw a message that is so broad as to be totally meaningless.
00:05:45.000 There is no place in our politics for bad things. 0.85
00:05:49.000 I mean, here we're kind of talking about radical Islam and the relationship of Islam to the West. 0.80
00:05:54.000 That's kind of the big issue.
00:05:56.000 So you say, well, you know what?
00:05:57.000 I oppose all bad things.
00:05:59.000 Bad things are bad.
00:06:02.000 Great job.
00:06:03.000 Okay, so the defense against even discussing these issues.
00:06:08.000 Is Islamophobia, right? 0.94
00:06:10.000 We're not supposed to talk about Islam in the United States and radical Muslims trying to commit terrorism or recruitment of people like this woman because that might be Islamophobic.
00:06:22.000 So let's start with some definitions for a second.
00:06:24.000 It is not Islamophobic or anti Semitic or Christophobic to disagree with somebody's religion.
00:06:29.000 That's called free speech.
00:06:31.000 Anyone who believes in their religion thinks their religion is the best.
00:06:34.000 That is definitional.
00:06:35.000 The only relevant question is how do your religion's values as practiced by humans Interact with the values that we hold dear here in the West.
00:06:45.000 So, that discussion requires us to actually name some categories of various Muslims if we're going to talk about Islamophobia.
00:06:52.000 So, category one Muslims who are not committing terrorism globally.
00:06:57.000 And that's pretty much everybody, it turns out, because there are 2 billion Muslims on planet Earth, and a very small percentage are actually committing terrorism.
00:07:05.000 According to Pew Research, you can see the data here.
00:07:09.000 The percentage of Muslims in various countries who say that suicide bombing in defense of Islam is justified.
00:07:14.000 I mean, there are some places, like, say, the Palestinian territories, where the answer is 40%, which is kind of wild. 0.75
00:07:21.000 So, can you say that that is a terror supporting population, broadly speaking? 0.93
00:07:25.000 I mean, you probably can.
00:07:26.000 Egypt is 29%. 0.98
00:07:27.000 Afghanistan is 39%.
00:07:29.000 When you get to the West, the numbers are pretty low. 0.67
00:07:31.000 That's category one people who overtly support terrorism. 0.99
00:07:34.000 Then there are Muslims who don't believe in principles that are at odds with those of Western civilization, right? 0.84
00:07:40.000 For whom there is no conflict at all. 0.96
00:07:43.000 That is a limited number.
00:07:45.000 That is a limited number, globally speaking.
00:07:47.000 Pretty limited.
00:07:50.000 Here is some Pew Research showing what Muslims across the world believe about making Islamic law the official law in their country, which again would be kind of anti Western.
00:07:59.000 Malaysia, 86%, Indonesia, 72%, Pakistan, 84%, Iraq, 91%, Niger, 86%, Palestinian territories, 89%, Egypt, 74%.
00:08:07.000 And again, we're talking about global Islam here.
00:08:10.000 And then there's category three Muslims who are trying to outspokenly fight the more fundamentalist conceptions of Islam and make Islam more compatible with Western civilization.
00:08:18.000 Here you are talking about a vanishingly small number of people.
00:08:22.000 So, again, here's the thing.
00:08:24.000 Just because most Muslims aren't committing terrorism, which of course is true, does not mean that Islam as a broad religious ideology is highly compatible with Western civilized values as currently practiced.
00:08:34.000 Now, again, that can change over time.
00:08:36.000 The practice of religion by practitioners of any religion can change radically over time.
00:08:41.000 I mean, one would be a fool not to acknowledge that, for example, the practice of Christianity in its interaction with the state has changed pretty massively since, say, the year 1300. 0.75
00:08:52.000 That is not true for Islam, it is not. 0.74
00:08:55.000 Islam, as currently practiced by the vast majority of Muslims globally, would not be considered moderate by most members of the West.
00:09:02.000 And it's hard to say that Islam, as currently practiced across the globe, is generally a moderating influence. 0.79
00:09:08.000 Wherever Islam grows in a society, liberty tends to backslide. 0.99
00:09:12.000 This is as true in Turkey as it is in the UK. 1.00
00:09:15.000 When Turkey was more secularist, liberty was better in Turkey, and now it's more Islamist, and it's gotten worse. 0.95
00:09:22.000 There are at least 50 Muslim majority countries on planet Earth. 1.00
00:09:25.000 Precisely zero are liberal democracies. 1.00
00:09:28.000 Zero count them zero. 0.85
00:09:30.000 By contrast, over 90% of all liberal, meaning individual rights guaranteed by government, democracies are countries with a Christian majority. 0.73
00:09:39.000 The world's only Jewish state is a liberal democracy. 0.73
00:09:42.000 Separation of church and state is a uniquely Western and Judeo Christian phenomenon. 0.82
00:09:46.000 It does not exist in Islam as practiced in Muslim majority countries.
00:09:52.000 To call those facts Islamophobic is to just pretend that facts don't exist. 0.95
00:09:55.000 And that, of course, is kind of the point.
00:09:56.000 So, what happens when you mix?
00:09:58.000 Political Islam with political leftism, that's where you end up with Jesse Bowie.
00:10:02.000 So, right hand salam over at Manhattan Institute, he was raised Muslim. 0.90
00:10:05.000 He writes in the journal Sapir Third worldism's capacity to recruit across racial, religious, and ethnic lines is precisely what makes it a more expansive and durable ideological challenge than Islamism. 0.98
00:10:17.000 It is also what makes it so dangerous as a permission structure for Islamist violence.
00:10:21.000 By celebrating anti imperialist resistance movements as inherently righteous and insisting real violence is always structural, always Western, and always Zionist, third worldism provides the moral vocabulary according to which attacks. 0.87
00:10:31.000 Become for some, not atrocities, but acts of liberation.
00:10:34.000 And again, that's what happened here with Bowie.
00:10:38.000 That is what happened with Jesse Bowie.
00:10:40.000 She went from far leftist to radical Islam because that line wasn't that thick, actually, because she had a third worldist ideology about America, presumably, and shifted right over into the religious ideology of Islam and a particularly radical form of it.
00:10:57.000 But the West is going to leave itself wide open to this sort of stuff.
00:10:59.000 They are.
00:11:00.000 We here in the West are going to leave ourselves wide open to this because we refuse to acknowledge the threat. 0.83
00:11:06.000 We treat people like Mahmoud Khalil, imported to the United States to protest against the West and say that the West is responsible for all problems all over the world. 0.53
00:11:13.000 We're going to pretend that guy's a victim of the West when we say, get the hell out. 0.92
00:11:17.000 Entire article in the New Yorker comparing his son, his six month old son, to infant Jesus if the Flemish had been more realistic about a Nazarene's complexion. 0.66
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00:12:39.000 Now, when you are a civilization that refuses to acknowledge the threat, you end up with actual terrorist attacks at scale, at greater scale.
00:12:46.000 Joining us online to discuss is Sarah Adams.
00:12:48.000 Sarah was a targeting officer for the CIA, which is about as cool as it sounds.
00:12:52.000 Her job.
00:12:53.000 Was to disrupt terrorist attacks by identifying the people and organizations that pose a threat to the United States.
00:12:58.000 So she was on the ground in the Middle East.
00:13:00.000 And she helped lead the investigation into the deadly terror attack on our diplomats in Benghazi, Libya.
00:13:05.000 She wrote a book about it.
00:13:06.000 And now she's warning in a piece for the Daily Wire that we have people who are walking around on our campuses, the campuses don't even know about who have actual terrorist beliefs and backgrounds.
00:13:15.000 Really appreciate it.
00:13:15.000 Sarah, thanks so much for the time.
00:13:17.000 Yeah, thanks for having me.
00:13:20.000 So, Sarah, first of all, why don't you explain what it is that you did for the CIA and how that's trained you to do kind of the investigations you've been doing now?
00:13:29.000 Yeah, I was simply what was called a targeter.
00:13:31.000 It was a profession that came out of 9 11, right?
00:13:34.000 We had analysts, we had case officers, we kind of had no one in the middle who could really get the ops moving forward.
00:13:40.000 And so we found and located terrorists as our main job.
00:13:43.000 And so that's what I did for about a decade at the CIA.
00:13:47.000 So when you look at the case, there's a case that you've been following and you wrote about it for Daily Wire, which is totally insane.
00:13:54.000 It is about a person named Mohammed Baylor Jala.
00:13:58.000 Who went to prison for working with ISIS?
00:14:00.000 But there's some backstory here that is truly crazy.
00:14:03.000 Truly, truly crazy.
00:14:04.000 Why didn't you give the backstory here?
00:14:06.000 The campus knew nothing about this guy's backstory.
00:14:10.000 So the crazy thing is, he went to jail in 2016, not just for supporting ISIS, he wanted to plan an attack against the US military, right?
00:14:10.000 Yeah.
00:14:20.000 So this isn't just like some financing or something.
00:14:23.000 So he gets out early, which is already another issue.
00:14:25.000 He was supposed to serve 11 years.
00:14:27.000 And right before getting out, he actually Reapply to Old Dominion.
00:14:32.000 He'd been there previously.
00:14:33.000 He got accepted.
00:14:34.000 A month later, he joins.
00:14:36.000 And yeah, they didn't receive anything from the FBI.
00:14:39.000 And he was also on like a supervised release, right?
00:14:43.000 The Bureau of Prisons didn't give anything to ODU saying, hey, you know, he was a member of ISIS.
00:14:49.000 So yeah, the campus had no clue that they had a member of ISIS on the campus.
00:14:55.000 And this ended in tragedy because in March 2026, he actually entered a classroom for the ROTC program and opened fire and he killed Lieutenant Colonel Brandon Shaw.
00:15:04.000 And wounded another couple of cadets.
00:15:06.000 Now, this is totally insane, obviously.
00:15:09.000 The fact that this person was ever out in the first place is crazy.
00:15:12.000 What are the systems that are failing here?
00:15:14.000 Is it just an informational system?
00:15:16.000 Or is this really just a blind spot for the American governmental system that they treat allegiance to ISIS or devotion to the most radical forms of Islam as just another thing that you kind of get over and then we let you out of prison and now you're a normie?
00:15:31.000 Oh, there's so many things to unpack here.
00:15:33.000 So, one is.
00:15:35.000 Just how the state of Virginia works, you don't actually do any sort of background check when someone's in the admission process.
00:15:42.000 So once you get admitted to school, then you get a voluntary form.
00:15:46.000 You fill it out and say if you were involved in any sort of criminal activity.
00:15:50.000 Readmitted students at the time, though, didn't get that.
00:15:53.000 So he never got the form, but it's voluntary.
00:15:56.000 You don't have to fill it out anyway.
00:15:58.000 Then we have no sort of reporting system in this country where it's mandatory to say someone's a terrorist, you know, like we have with the, you know, sex offenders registry.
00:16:07.000 That doesn't exist for terrorism, which is crazy.
00:16:10.000 So there is no one that has to tell you.
00:16:14.000 Now, of course, the person who was monitoring him had the ability to inform like employers and the school and those type of things that he was a member of ISIS and they did not do that.
00:16:27.000 As you can imagine, people who haven't really been overseas and fought against these terrorists, at the end of your question, you brought this up.
00:16:34.000 They really do think a terrorist can reintegrate back into society and that just usually never happens.
00:16:40.000 And unfortunately, we have a long road ahead.
00:16:42.000 There's a lot of terrorists that are going to be released and have been released on U.S. soil.
00:16:49.000 So, I want to get into that a little bit for a second because what you're constantly hearing is that when you discuss problems like this, you're Islamophobic.
00:16:54.000 This is a term that gets thrown around a lot.
00:16:55.000 It's been thrown around, obviously, by the mayor of New York.
00:16:57.000 You get this from Abdullah Syed in Michigan.
00:16:59.000 So, how should Americans feel?
00:17:01.000 I know this is a broad question.
00:17:02.000 How should Americans feel about Islam more broadly?
00:17:05.000 Because a lot of questions have been asked about whether, if you are concerned about Islam as a broad religious ideology, this makes you Islamophobic, whether we should be talking about things in terms of radical Islam versus Islam or Islam versus reform Islam.
00:17:18.000 Where do you come down on this question, having spent a lot of time in the Middle East?
00:17:22.000 Well, you know, I'm anti terrorist. 1.00
00:17:24.000 And so, of course, I care about terrorists, Islamists, right? 0.99
00:17:27.000 Because that's kind of can be a little more of the political side of it, too. 0.95
00:17:30.000 At the end of the day, there are individuals and entities who want to cause us harm.
00:17:36.000 Is it harm in our checkbooks?
00:17:38.000 Is it harm, you know, on a school campus?
00:17:41.000 That doesn't really matter to me, right?
00:17:42.000 We have to fight them as kind of this unified front.
00:17:45.000 And we don't really do a good job of that.
00:17:48.000 And it's because people are afraid to be called Islamophobic.
00:17:51.000 I obviously, as you know, run investigations in four different countries.
00:17:55.000 My entire team, you know, is Muslim, right? 0.57
00:17:58.000 These people in their own countries have to fight these terrorists because these terrorists want to also destroy their way of life, right?
00:18:06.000 They aren't moderates in any way.
00:18:08.000 They are really extreme.
00:18:11.000 I mean, the Taliban being the greatest example and they want to build this concept of the caliphate and do all these type of things.
00:18:17.000 And if you just say, oh, well, that, that's cute or you downplay it, uh, they're working on this every day, right?
00:18:26.000 They are taking this serious, and I think we need to as well. 0.80
00:18:32.000 This does have obvious implications for things like immigration policy because one of the things that people like to say is, well, why can't we just vet people coming into the country?
00:18:39.000 And it really is not as simple as that.
00:18:40.000 How the hell do you vet hundreds of thousands of people coming from systems where they don't have shared intelligence with you, where they're probably not keeping track of this, and where the broad feelings about the West are, shall we say, not pleasant?
00:18:51.000 I mean, the reality is that even in the countries that we consider allies, the broad population of those countries is not particularly pro America, pro West.
00:18:58.000 If you go to Saudi Arabia, The regime may be pro America, generally oriented toward America.
00:19:03.000 That doesn't mean the population of Saudi Arabia. 0.84
00:19:04.000 If you just imported a couple of million Saudis into the United States, that population would be free of risk.
00:19:12.000 Yeah, and you have to remember let's just talk terrorists aside.
00:19:15.000 When they're moving around, they're changing their identity documents. 0.97
00:19:19.000 So I know a Saudi, for example, okay?
00:19:22.000 You know, he went to North Africa, he was in the Somalia area, he's now come to the United States. 0.62
00:19:26.000 He threw his passport away there, kind of like people do at our southern border.
00:19:30.000 So he is in the United States, right? 0.75
00:19:32.000 He's a Saudi. 1.00
00:19:33.000 Who knows what nationalities he's living under? 0.98
00:19:36.000 Who knows what name he's living under?
00:19:38.000 So think about that.
00:19:39.000 It's not just vetting, also known individuals.
00:19:42.000 We're now vetting people.
00:19:43.000 We don't even have the correct information on them.
00:19:45.000 So we have all these people who came over the border.
00:19:47.000 We have 70,000 Afghans who didn't work for the US government. 0.62
00:19:52.000 There's fraudulent documents all over the place.
00:19:55.000 Like you said, there's countries that aren't going to do vetting for us.
00:19:57.000 Can you imagine going asking the Syrian government to give us a background check on an Al Qaeda terrorist?
00:20:02.000 So it's a very frustrating thing, but I don't think a lot of people understand this because when you say, let's not take anyone in from a certain country, then, oh, you're, you know, Islamophobic again, right?
00:20:12.000 Like the whole Muslim ban controversy years ago.
00:20:15.000 And that's not the case. 0.98
00:20:16.000 Like you said, they don't share useful information for us to vet anybody.
00:20:22.000 Now, Sarah, how big a problem is it networks inside the United States that are fostering this sort of radicalism?
00:20:26.000 I mean, there's tape that comes out pretty much every day from groups like Memory that is looking at public broadcasts, actually, like things that are on tape and are available, a broadcast from American mosques in places like Dearborn where they're spouting exactly the same kind of radicalism that you would hear from ISIS.
00:20:41.000 I mean, there's legitimately no ideological difference.
00:20:44.000 How big are these networks in the United States?
00:20:46.000 And what is the soft support network?
00:20:47.000 Because it's not always just support via material support for terrorism.
00:20:52.000 It's also ideological rootedness in a particular way of thinking.
00:20:55.000 How broad and deep is that?
00:20:59.000 Well, we have all that protected under free speech here, right?
00:21:03.000 That's the one difficult thing.
00:21:04.000 If I went to UAE and I went to a mosque, you're not going to hear what you're hearing on U.S. soil, right?
00:21:10.000 Because it's forbidden to talk jihad and those type of things.
00:21:13.000 So we're first allowing this to kind of get out of control.
00:21:18.000 And it's Protected.
00:21:19.000 So that's a very, very frustrating thing.
00:21:21.000 And as you've seen in those videos, they do have a freedom to say all those things and they're using our laws against us, right?
00:21:28.000 It's actually very, very smart of them. 1.00
00:21:29.000 And again, it's banned in multiple countries from speaking like this in Muslim countries who know, hey, there's a pathway, right? 0.98
00:21:38.000 You indoctrinate, you radicalize, and you do that usually in your place of worship. 0.98
00:21:43.000 Doesn't even really matter your religion.
00:21:45.000 Now, then there's a whole other network that Is the best way to put it is, okay, when 9-11 happened, right?
00:21:53.000 Of course, we knew who the hijackers were, but we actually never really went after who actually funded them, who housed them, who drove them around the country.
00:22:02.000 That network still exists from 25 years ago.
00:22:05.000 And then there's similar networks like that who, let's just say you're extreme, they're getting you jobs, right?
00:22:10.000 You're coming into Texas, they put you into jobs.
00:22:13.000 It's something so simple.
00:22:14.000 That person sure isn't a terrorist.
00:22:16.000 They're not holding a gun, but they're making sure terrorists have employment.
00:22:19.000 For cover.
00:22:21.000 So we have to remember all that's existing like in our own backyards, and we actually don't have any real concept of it.
00:22:30.000 It is pretty incredible how deep rooted it is, considering that you literally have a member of Congress, Ilhan Omar, who wrote a letter to a judge asking for mercy on a person who was trying to join ISIS on the basis that he'd had a rough family life.
00:22:40.000 I mean, this is really a serious problem in the United States.
00:22:43.000 Now, one of the things that you talk about in this piece is the unique kind of vulnerability on college campuses, which, again, have been.
00:22:51.000 They've been targeted sometimes, but they've not been targeted large scale.
00:22:53.000 We have a movie coming out, Run Height Fight Infidels, in which that is sort of the premise of the film that radical members of ISIS take over a college campus and basically commit almost an October 7th style massacre.
00:23:04.000 But our campuses are uniquely vulnerable to this sort of stuff.
00:23:08.000 Yeah, in two ways.
00:23:09.000 First off, just from the recruitment.
00:23:11.000 So ISIS very famously has recruited on campuses for years, right?
00:23:16.000 Especially in engineering programs.
00:23:18.000 So, first off, if you put a terrorist on a campus, they can influence, right?
00:23:22.000 They can build a network, they can get access.
00:23:24.000 You know, to young minds who really haven't determined who they are yet.
00:23:28.000 And then, of course, we have the fact these are soft targets, right?
00:23:31.000 These are kind of literal, little insular cities.
00:23:35.000 I go to campuses all the time and do briefings.
00:23:37.000 And most of the time, they don't even know I'm on campus, right? 0.92
00:23:40.000 That's an issue since I'm an Al Qaeda threat. 0.81
00:23:42.000 You could park anywhere. 0.99
00:23:43.000 You can walk in any building.
00:23:45.000 Nothing's locked.
00:23:46.000 So it's almost like another mentality.
00:23:49.000 It's like you feel safe there, even when parents send their kids.
00:23:51.000 They're like, oh, they're safe on campus.
00:23:54.000 And it's just this idea that it's this bubble that you can't penetrate.
00:23:58.000 And of course, we know that's not true because the terrorists will always hit us where it's easiest and where you can gain impact.
00:24:06.000 And what gains impact?
00:24:07.000 Harming people's children. 0.98
00:24:10.000 Well, that is Sarah Adams.
00:24:11.000 She was a targeting officer at the CIA.
00:24:13.000 Go check out her bombshell piece over at Daily Wire today.
00:24:16.000 It is titled The Terrorist on Campus.
00:24:18.000 Sarah, thanks so much for the time.
00:24:19.000 Really appreciate the insight.
00:24:21.000 Thank you.
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