The Ben Shapiro Show - And Jussie For All | Ep. 718

00:00:00.000 Jussie Smollett's hate crime story begins to utterly collapse, President Trump prepares to declare a national emergency, and the 2020 Democrats move even further to the left.

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00:01:35.000 Alrighty, so we begin with the shocking but not so shocking news that Jussie Smollett's story seems to be falling apart.

00:01:42.000 You will recall Jussie Smollett's story, Mean Streets of Chicago.

00:01:46.000 Two AM, goes down for a Subway sandwich, and he leaves his apartment, goes to the Subway, picks up his sandwich, and on the way back, suddenly out of nowhere, he is accosted by two presumably white MAGA fans, who come up to him, somehow identify him from the show Empire, which is weird, and then start yelling the F-word and the N-word at him, at which point they string a noose around his neck, begin kicking him in the ribs, pour bleach on him, And he's only missing from the cameras for like 60 seconds because Chicago has lots of cameras.

00:02:15.000 There's a 60-second period where he's missing from the camera.

00:02:17.000 When he re-emerges on camera, he's got a clothesline around his neck.

00:02:20.000 He's still carrying his Subway sandwich because, as we have discussed before, this is always what you do.

00:02:26.000 I mean, if you get in a fight, if somebody is beating the living hell out of you, threatening your life, threatening to noose you, shouting, this is MAGA country while doing so, your first priority Keep the sandwich.

00:02:35.000 I mean, honestly, they should hire this guy at Subway.

00:02:38.000 That's how much this guy loves Subway.

00:02:40.000 I mean, he can take a lickin' and keep on tickin' and carry that Subway sandwich at the same time.

00:02:45.000 So, 60 seconds later, he walks back on camera.

00:02:48.000 Now he's got clothesline around his neck, and he's carrying his Subway sandwich.

00:02:51.000 He strolls right through the lobby of his building, past the doorman, goes upstairs, waits 40 minutes, and then calls the cops.

00:02:56.000 At which point, the cops show up, and they say, what happened?

00:02:59.000 He's still got the clothesline around his neck at this point, and he says, well, All this stuff happened, and they said, OK, well, can we see your phone?

00:03:05.000 Because you claim you were on the phone with your manager at the time.

00:03:08.000 And he says, no.

00:03:09.000 Why would you want to see my phone?

00:03:12.000 At this point, if you are not suspicious of the story, it's because you believe what you want to believe.

00:03:17.000 And there were a lot of politicians who, as it turns out, believed what they wanted to believe about this story.

00:03:22.000 We're talking everybody from Nancy Pelosi to Maxine Waters to Kamala Harris.

00:03:25.000 Nancy Pelosi said, the racist homophobic attack on Jussie Smollett is an affront to our humanity.

00:03:30.000 Maxine Waters said, it's coming from the president of the United States.

00:03:33.000 He's dog whistling every day.

00:03:35.000 Kamala Harris said, this was an attempting, an attempted modern day lynching.

00:03:40.000 Politicians all over the left-wing spectrum decided to weigh in.

00:03:43.000 AOC said there is no such thing as racially charged.

00:03:46.000 This attack was not possibly homophobic.

00:03:48.000 It was a racist and homophobic attack.

00:03:50.000 If you don't like what is happening to our country, then work to change it.

00:03:53.000 It is no one's job to water down or sugarcoat the rise of hate crimes.

00:03:56.000 And the reason that she tweeted that is because Entertainment Tonight had originally run with the headline.

00:04:01.000 Jussie Smollett has been hospitalized in Chicago after a possible homophobic and racially charged attack.

00:04:07.000 OK, the reason they said possible is because it might not have happened.

00:04:10.000 It's because it might not have happened.

00:04:13.000 Right?

00:04:13.000 Which makes it awkward that it might not have happened.

00:04:15.000 And anyone who heard the story, your first thought had to be, Was this real?

00:04:21.000 Every element of it seemed like too much.

00:04:23.000 Every element.

00:04:24.000 Whenever there's a story where every element seems like it's too much, you gotta think to yourself, maybe this is a hoax.

00:04:30.000 Unfortunately, there have been lots of racial hoaxes in the past where people claim to have been victimized in a hate crime and it turns out not to be true.

00:04:36.000 This one smelled like a hoax from the very beginning.

00:04:38.000 Nonetheless, Jussie Smollett was treated with all of the sensitivity due to his claim.

00:04:44.000 And specifically, because the media loves to run with the narrative that America is a racist, homophobic place, this became top news across the country, even though the claims didn't make any sense.

00:04:54.000 Again, two guys in the dead of night in Chicago, in 10 degree below weather, who watch Empire but also are MAGA fans.

00:05:02.000 And we're screaming at Jussie Smollett that night, this is MAGA country in the middle of Chicago, which apparently went 193% against Donald Trump in the last election cycle.

00:05:14.000 So it was a very weird story from the beginning.

00:05:16.000 That didn't stop the media from jumping all in with both feet.

00:05:18.000 Good Morning America featured Jussie Smollett on their show yesterday, where he cried and he acted.

00:05:24.000 It's like he's an actor or something.

00:05:25.000 He said, I am not weak.

00:05:27.000 I'm not weak.

00:05:29.000 Why did you hesitate to call the police?

00:05:31.000 There's a level of pride there. 0.63

00:05:32.000 We live in a society where, as a gay man, you are considered, somehow, to be weak.

00:05:40.000 And I'm not weak. 0.56

00:05:42.000 I'm not weak.

00:05:43.000 And we, as a people, are not weak. 0.63

00:05:46.000 Um, well, no one was suggesting that gay people are weak.

00:05:50.000 That doesn't answer why you wouldn't call the police when a hate crime takes place against you. 0.88

00:05:53.000 Like, that's a weird answer.

00:05:55.000 And then he says he just couldn't believe that people were doubting him.

00:05:58.000 How?

00:05:58.000 How could people doubt him?

00:05:59.000 It's just terrible.

00:06:00.000 Just, just terrible.

00:06:01.000 I'm pissed off.

00:06:03.000 What is it that has you so angry?

00:06:07.000 Is it the attackers?

00:06:08.000 It's the attackers, but it's also the attacks.

00:06:12.000 It's like, you know, at first it was a thing of like, listen, if I tell the truth, then that's it, because it's the truth.

00:06:23.000 Then it became a thing of like, oh, how can you doubt that?

00:06:27.000 Like, how do you not believe that?

00:06:29.000 It's the truth.

00:06:31.000 And then it became a thing of like, oh, it's not necessarily that you don't believe that this is the truth.

00:06:37.000 You don't even want to see the truth.

00:06:41.000 No, it turns out that we sort of believe that it might not be the truth.

00:06:45.000 Because ABC Chicago reported yesterday in a shocking blow, mainstream media hardest hit, that Jussie Smollett was probably not telling the truth about this.

00:06:53.000 Here's ABC 7 Chicago report last night.

00:06:58.000 Police are now questioning the two people seen in this surveillance photo.

00:07:02.000 One, an actor on Empire.

00:07:04.000 Chicago police say there is no evidence the persons of interest were involved in that physical attack described by Smollett.

00:07:10.000 Multiple sources are telling Eyewitness News that Smollett and the two men are being questioned by police for staging the attack, allegedly because his character was being written out of the show.

00:07:21.000 Now, it is true that Fox came back and they said, oh, we weren't writing Jussie out.

00:07:24.000 Jussie was never going to be written out of the show.

00:07:26.000 So we have a bunch of conflicting stories.

00:07:28.000 But here is what we do know at this point.

00:07:31.000 ABC7 Chicago said that Smollett failed to appear for an interview with detectives earlier on Thursday.

00:07:37.000 They say that they were investigating whether these two men staged an attack.

00:07:41.000 The way that they tracked down these two guys is by going through Jussie Smollett's phone.

00:07:45.000 Apparently, the report is, that he had turned over an Excel spreadsheet with a phone log that had deleted certain calls.

00:07:52.000 So they compared his actual phone log, which I guess they'd subpoenaed, with the calls that he said he had made, and then they only looked at the ones that he deleted.

00:08:00.000 And that's how they tracked down these two guys.

00:08:01.000 He had said in that Good Morning America interview, by the way, that those two people in the picture walking down the street, those were definitely, definitely the two guys who attacked him.

00:08:10.000 So, you can't have it both ways.

00:08:12.000 Either he's telling the truth and those are the two guys who attacked him and it turns out they're his friends, or he's not telling the truth and those were not the two guys who attacked him, it was another two guys who attacked him.

00:08:21.000 A source briefed on the Smollett investigation confirmed to ABC News that Chicago police are questioning the two persons of interest, one of whom has actually appeared on Empire.

00:08:28.000 The law enforcement official also told ABC News that the homes of the persons of interest were raided on Wednesday night.

00:08:33.000 Police removed shoes, electronic devices, and any other items they believe could help determine if the two people played any role in the assault.

00:08:40.000 Neighbors described a swarm of officers and canine units.

00:08:43.000 Jamie Figueroa, a neighbor, said, I was walking in the alley.

00:08:45.000 One police car stopped in the alley and they told me to go inside the house.

00:08:48.000 But by then, five minutes later, there were like 20 police right here by the door.

00:08:52.000 Neighbors said they believe the men who are Nigerian are brothers who grew up in the apartment and have lived there for years.

00:08:56.000 Neighbors described them as friendly and possibly bodybuilders and said they have long wanted to be actors.

00:09:01.000 Chicago police said they cannot confirm any of those reports.

00:09:05.000 No charges have yet been filed.

00:09:06.000 Earlier, police said the two persons of interest are not suspects and have not been charged.

00:09:10.000 Investigators are only talking with them at this time.

00:09:12.000 The two were picked up Wednesday night at O'Hare International Airport.

00:09:16.000 And a lawyer who said she was representing the two persons of interest declined to comment on the case as she left Area Central Police Headquarters.

00:09:23.000 Chicago police said they were tracking these two people and they were aware of who they were for quite a while.

00:09:27.000 So this has led to accusations that Chicago PD, out of fear of being called racist, was slow playing the revelation that this may have been a setup and a hoax.

00:09:35.000 So...

00:09:36.000 Here is the theme that we should take from this.

00:09:40.000 Wait for the evidence.

00:09:41.000 It's amazing.

00:09:42.000 This thing happened within a week of Covington High School.

00:09:45.000 The entire media leapt to the conclusion that a bunch of white kids had harassed a Native American man on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial during the March for Life.

00:09:53.000 They jumped to that conclusion.

00:09:54.000 Why?

00:09:54.000 Because it fit a narrative.

00:09:55.000 And then Jussie Smollett told a story that was ludicrously unbelievable on its face. 0.93

00:09:59.000 And the media leapt to the conclusion that, naturally, it was racist white men on the streets of Chicago that had caused the problem. 0.74

00:10:05.000 What does this say?

00:10:06.000 It says the media are looking for a narrative.

00:10:08.000 The narrative is racist white men do X. That is the narrative the media are looking for.

00:10:12.000 They don't require any further evidence.

00:10:13.000 Whenever that is the narrative, they're willing to jump on it with both feet.

00:10:16.000 It also explains why it is that the media will pay inordinate attention, like truly grand attention, to anti-semitic attacks by white supremacists, but will pay no attention to the vast bevy of anti-semitic attacks taking place in Brooklyn every single weekend, apparently.

00:10:31.000 Why?

00:10:31.000 Because as the New York Times itself admitted, it doesn't fit the patterned narrative that we are seeking.

00:10:37.000 The reason the Jussie Smollett case is important is not because an actor allegedly lied to the police.

00:10:44.000 It's not because of that.

00:10:45.000 It's because the media are always willing to jump with both feet on any story that backs a claim that America is a racist, terrible place.

00:10:53.000 And then they will slowly walk back the claims as it comes out that that's not true.

00:10:58.000 We've seen a bunch of these cases recently.

00:10:59.000 There was a player, I believe his name was Michael Bennett, for the Seattle Seahawks, and he claimed that the racist police in Las Vegas had physically assaulted him.

00:11:07.000 Tape came out, it turns out that he had resisted the police and he had run away from them.

00:11:11.000 These sorts of cases do happen, which is why the appropriate thing to do now, in a time where people do fib for media attention, where people do know what the media wants and then spoon-feed those narratives to the media, and where the media are willing to run with those stories, The best thing you can do on any story, it's something that I'm learning, I think everybody is learning, you gotta wait 48 hours for anything.

00:11:33.000 You gotta wait 48 hours for anything.

00:11:35.000 If a story seems too good to be true, unless it is confirmed by a wide variety of sources, you have to wait 48 hours.

00:11:42.000 Because there is a very good shot that within 48 hours, the entire story will collapse.

00:11:45.000 This happens to be true with racial hoaxes, but it's true across a wide variety of stories, as I'll explain in just a second.

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00:12:47.000 Alright, so, as we know, it is not just on the matter of racial hoaxes and racial stories that the media are willing to jump with both feet.

00:13:06.000 It's not just Michael Brown, hands up, don't shoot.

00:13:08.000 It's not just that stuff.

00:13:09.000 It is also with regard to President Trump.

00:13:11.000 It's why we have seen multiple false stories about President Trump debunked over the past several years.

00:13:15.000 CNN, you'll recall, ran with a story about President Trump suggesting that Donald Trump Jr.

00:13:20.000 knew in advance about WikiLeaks leaks, and that he was coordinating in advance about it, and then CNN had to walk back the report.

00:13:27.000 McClatchy ran with a report that Michael Cohen was indeed in Prague meeting with Russian agents.

00:13:31.000 They never walked that report back, but there's still no evidence to support it.

00:13:35.000 Whenever the media leap on a story that seems so spectacular that it backs every aspect of what they want it to back, Your first response should be, hold up a second.

00:13:45.000 Just hold up.

00:13:46.000 Maybe it's true.

00:13:47.000 Maybe it's true.

00:13:47.000 Maybe it all turns out to be true.

00:13:48.000 But it is not racist.

00:13:50.000 It is not homophobic.

00:13:52.000 It is not bad.

00:13:53.000 In fact, it is quite good for us all to take a deep breath and say, let's wait for the facts to come in before we jump.

00:13:58.000 We live in a media environment, however, in a political environment where even the act of waiting is now considered a sin.

00:14:04.000 It's a serious problem.

00:14:05.000 We have a serious disincentive to do the responsible thing and wait for the story.

00:14:09.000 If you jump on the story and you happen to be right, then it's, look, the reason you're right is because your worldview is right.

00:14:15.000 The reason that you knew that this story was true is because your worldview has been verified.

00:14:20.000 And if you wait, then we say, the reason you're waiting is because you're not sensitive enough to the needs of a particular community.

00:14:27.000 So if the Jussie Smollett story came out and you said, you know what?

00:14:29.000 I got some questions about it.

00:14:31.000 Then you were castigated as a racist and a homophobe just for saying that you want to wait for some answers.

00:14:37.000 Like, Jussie Smollett knew that.

00:14:38.000 That's why he said that on Good Morning America.

00:14:39.000 That's why he said he was bewildered by people who were asking questions.

00:14:43.000 The question really should have been what sane person believed every aspect of that story from the start.

00:14:48.000 Now, again, maybe it happened the way he did, but without any evidence, I'm supposed to believe that two MAGA-hatted guys on the streets of Chicago at 2 a.m.

00:14:55.000 attacked an Empire actor they identified from the show, wound clothesline around his neck, poured bleach on him, and then allowed him not only to escape with his life, but with his Subway sandwich?

00:15:04.000 I was supposed to believe that?

00:15:05.000 Otherwise, I was part of the patriarchy or something? 0.96

00:15:09.000 It's absolute silliness. 0.91

00:15:11.000 So, once again, the media crapped the bed, and I don't think that we should be particularly surprised about that.

00:15:16.000 Okay, meanwhile, the President of the United States is prepared today to sign into law a new budget deal.

00:15:22.000 The budget deal is not good. 0.98

00:15:24.000 There's a lot of garbage in this budget deal. 0.95

00:15:26.000 Conservative Review has a great piece by Daniel Horowitz going through what exactly is in this budget deal. 0.98

00:15:36.000 He says, I've talked at length before about how I think it violates the very nature of constitutional government to provide massive omnibus packages to the president.

00:15:50.000 Every bill was supposed to be designed separately.

00:15:52.000 Every bill was supposed to come up for a vote.

00:15:54.000 And then the president had the ability to veto. 0.98

00:15:57.000 The reason that the line item veto even became an issue over the last 30-40 years is because Congress routinely would put together crap sandwiches and then tell the President to either sign the crap sandwich or veto the crap sandwich. 0.88

00:16:07.000 It's not how bills used to work.

00:16:09.000 So what exactly is in this thing?

00:16:11.000 Well, according to Daniel Horowitz over at CR, who has a really good review of it, he says, less of a wall than even what Democrats agreed to.

00:16:18.000 Trump originally demanded $25 billion for the wall.

00:16:20.000 Then he negotiated himself down to $5.6 billion.

00:16:23.000 Democrats balked and only agreed to $1.6 billion.

00:16:25.000 This bill calls it a day at $1.375 billion, enough to construct 55 miles.

00:16:28.000 But it's worse than that.

00:16:32.000 The bill limits the president's ability to construct barriers to just the Rio Grande Valley sector and only bollard fencing, not concrete walls of any kind.

00:16:40.000 There is no ability to adapt.

00:16:41.000 In fact, this provision is so strong that it's leading people to believe that Trump may not even be able to use a national emergency to overcome it.

00:16:49.000 Meaning that if the bill itself restricts the ability to construct barriers to just a particular area, that's actually a solid legal basis for saying the president doesn't have national emergency power to construct wall other places.

00:17:01.000 Because the way that we read law in the judiciary is that last in time is first in priority.

00:17:06.000 So if Congress passes two bills, one in 1960 and one yesterday, and the one yesterday overrules the one in 1960, then the courts will read it that way.

00:17:15.000 So if the National Emergencies Act of 1976 says the president can declare a national emergency and build a wall, which again is even questionable, we'll get to that, but even if it said that, if a bill yesterday came out and said, we will not allow the president to build wall other than in this small area, the bill yesterday trumps the National Emergencies Act of 1976.

00:17:35.000 Second thing that's wrong with the budget, according to Daniel Horowitz, liberal local officials will have veto power over the wall.

00:17:42.000 He says, it's likely that not a single mile of fence will be built.

00:17:45.000 Section 232A of the bill says, prior to use of any funds made available by this act for the construction of physical barriers, the Department of Homeland Security shall confer and reach mutual agreement regarding the design and alignment of physical barriers within that city.

00:17:58.000 They have to consult the local elected officials.

00:18:01.000 This is why they've limited the wall to the Rio Grande Valley.

00:18:04.000 These are the most liberal borders on the, these are the most liberal counties on the borders.

00:18:10.000 What are the consequences?

00:18:11.000 The bill stipulates such consultations shall continue until September 30th, 2019 and may be extended beyond that date by agreements of the parties and no funds made available in this act should be used for construction while consultations are continuing, which means Trump can't build any wall at least until September and maybe beyond because he has to consult with all of these liberal authorities.

00:18:31.000 Third, the bill contains a blatant amnesty for the worst cartel smugglers.

00:18:34.000 Section 224A prohibits the deportation of anyone who is sponsoring an unaccompanied minor illegal alien, or who says they might sponsor an unaccompanied minor illegal alien, or lives in a household with an unaccompanied minor illegal alien, or a household that might potentially sponsor an unaccompanied minor illegal alien.

00:18:51.000 So we are now using children being trafficked across the border as an excuse not to arrest illegal immigrants in the country who may apply as a sponsor, or anyone in the household applying as a sponsor.

00:19:01.000 Jessica Vaughn of the very anti-immigration Center for Immigration Studies, she says we can call this the MS-13 Household Protection Act of 2019.

00:19:09.000 We know that 80% of UAC sponsors, that's unaccompanied children, are in the country illegally.

00:19:14.000 The number of people this would protect would reach into the hundreds of thousands if all the potential household or potential household members are counted.

00:19:23.000 Fourth, the budget bill contains more funding to manage and induce the invasion rather than to deter it.

00:19:28.000 There is no new funding for ICE deportation agents.

00:19:31.000 It does add another $40 million for the Alternatives to Detention program, which moves asylum seekers to facilities in the interior of the country where they're usually released.

00:19:39.000 That's catch and release.

00:19:40.000 And finally, it doubles low-skilled workers.

00:19:42.000 It doubles the number of H-2B non-agricultural, unskilled seasonal workers who will continue to be a public charge on America, according to Daniel Horowitz.

00:19:49.000 That's just a cursory glance through the bill.

00:19:51.000 So there's a bunch of problems with the bill itself.

00:19:53.000 Now, the assumption was that President Trump would sign this bad bill, and then he would declare a national emergency.

00:19:59.000 According to ABC today, the president is going to declare some $8 billion for border walls.

00:20:07.000 The Daily Mail, actually, is reporting that by declaring a national emergency, it's going to allow him to spend $8 billion building his wall after signing that bill to avoid a government shutdown.

00:20:16.000 The White House confirmed Thursday the president will sign a bipartisan spending deal to avoid another government shutdown, but will declare the national emergency in an effort to procure funds to build a border wall.

00:20:25.000 Trump will hold an event in the White House Rose Garden about the border at 10 a.m.

00:20:29.000 on Friday.

00:20:29.000 He's expected to sign both the funding bill and the paperwork for his executive actions.

00:20:34.000 Well, there's some problems with the National Emergency Declaration.

00:20:37.000 Number one, we have to make sure that he doesn't limit himself in the budget bill itself to not being able to do any of the stuff he's talking about, as I mentioned.

00:20:44.000 But number two, it is really unclear whether a National Emergency Declaration allows the President of the United States to mobilize the military in a non-emergency, non-military situation to build the border wall.

00:20:55.000 That is not clear.

00:20:56.000 That legal precedent is just not clear.

00:20:58.000 Ilya Somin over at Reason.com has a good piece on this, explaining the relevant legal issues.

00:21:04.000 He says that some point to 10 U.S.C.

00:21:07.000 2808 and 33 U.S.C.

00:21:09.000 2293 as possible justifications, but section 2808 states that during a national emergency that requires the use of the armed forces, the president can reallocate defense funds to undertake military construction projects.

00:21:19.000 No threat posed by undocumented immigration requires the use of the armed forces. 1.00

00:21:23.000 ICE, border patrol, these are not the armed forces.

00:21:25.000 So it's hard to see why a wall would be necessary to support such use.

00:21:28.000 Also, it turns out that immigration law is actually not War time power.

00:21:33.000 Immigration law is domestic law enforcement.

00:21:36.000 Section 2293 only applies to a war or emergency that requires or may require use of the armed forces.

00:21:42.000 We've never used the armed forces with regard to stopping things at the border except in rare rare occasions.

00:21:48.000 Another federal law allows the military to condemn property for various purposes like fortifications, but funding has to be appropriated by Congress to that purpose.

00:21:55.000 As I said yesterday, the best provision of law for the president is the provision of law 10 U.S.C.

00:22:02.000 284 that suggests that the president can declare certain drug corridors and then build fencing along those drug corridors.

00:22:08.000 But the idea that he has some widespread national emergency power, and he's not actually expanding current national emergency power, I think is foolhardy and opens the door to precedent.

00:22:17.000 I'll explain in just a second.

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00:23:24.000 So the real question is, If the president declares a national emergency, tries to build the border wall, a couple of questions.

00:23:30.000 One, is it legal?

00:23:31.000 Meaning, will it ever be allowed to be effectuated?

00:23:34.000 I think the answer is probably no.

00:23:35.000 I think it will be held up in court until at the very earliest, late 2020.

00:23:39.000 Even if it is not held up in court, even if border wall fencing is allowed to be built, it will be on a small portion of the border.

00:23:46.000 It is quite possible that the budget deal itself obviates the legal capacity to build more wall under a national emergency declaration, as I talked about a little bit earlier.

00:23:55.000 So there's that.

00:23:56.000 That's question number one.

00:23:58.000 Question number two.

00:23:59.000 Even if it gets through, is it actually expanding national emergency powers the president has used before?

00:24:04.000 And the answer here is yes.

00:24:06.000 It turns out that using eminent domain as an executive power without congressional authorization, declaring a national emergency on the basis of failed domestic negotiations, that that is a bad precedent.

00:24:17.000 It's a bad precedent to set.

00:24:18.000 How do we know it's a bad precedent to set?

00:24:19.000 Because you can see the gleam in Nancy Pelosi's eye when she discusses the kind of national emergencies she would like to declare if she had the power to do so.

00:24:27.000 Here's Nancy Pelosi's reaction to the national emergency declaration.

00:24:31.000 It's important to note that when the president declares this emergency, first of all, It's not an emergency, what's happening at the border.

00:24:38.000 It's a humanitarian challenge to us.

00:24:40.000 The president has tried to sell a bill of goods to Americans.

00:24:44.000 The president is doing an enran about Congress, about the power of the purse.

00:24:48.000 You've heard me say over and over again, Article I, the legislative branch, the power of the purse, the power to declare war, many other powers listed in the Constitution, and, of course, the responsibility to have oversight.

00:25:04.000 So the president is doing an enran around that.

00:25:07.000 You want to talk about a national emergency?

00:25:08.000 Let's talk about today, the one-year anniversary of another manifestation of the epidemic of...

00:25:15.000 Okay, now, you can see her get excited when she starts talking about this. 0.97

00:25:22.000 Is Nancy Pelosi a wild hypocrite when it comes to legislative power versus executive branch power? 1.00

00:25:27.000 Of course she is. 0.99

00:25:27.000 She had no objections to President Obama. 0.99

00:25:30.000 Wildly, at every turn, expanding executive power.

00:25:32.000 None whatsoever.

00:25:33.000 She had no problem with any of that.

00:25:35.000 And this is one of the big problems with, honestly, the founders did not believe that party politics would end up trumping the interests of each particular branch.

00:25:45.000 The founders, if you go back and read the Federalist Papers, the founders believed that the legislature would be zealous in guarding its own powers.

00:25:50.000 It wouldn't be interested in allowing the executive branch to continue expanding its own powers.

00:25:55.000 Thanks to the rise of administrative government, backed by Democrats and allowed by Republicans over the last century, since Woodrow Wilson, the executive branch has spun out of control.

00:26:03.000 Most lawmaking does not happen at the legislative level.

00:26:06.000 It happens at the regulatory level.

00:26:07.000 That's all in the executive branch.

00:26:09.000 Affectuation of law happens inside the executive branch.

00:26:12.000 Congress is becoming a vestigial organ.

00:26:15.000 And the only time that Congress is not a vestigial organ is when there is actually a gridlock.

00:26:20.000 When Democrats control Congress and a Republican controls the presidency or vice versa.

00:26:24.000 When one party controls both the legislature and the White House, then executive power tends to increase because nobody in the legislative branch of the party of the president is going to object to the president.

00:26:36.000 So what you're seeing right now is Republicans who would certainly object if Barack Obama tried to do something like this.

00:26:41.000 They would take legislative action to stop him.

00:26:44.000 Right now, Republicans are making sounds like they don't like President Trump doing what he's doing, but are they actually going to stop him?

00:26:50.000 Highly, highly doubtful.

00:26:52.000 Something like 10 Republicans have come out in the Senate and said they don't like this thing.

00:26:55.000 How many Republicans would be saying they don't like this thing if Barack Obama were declaring a national emergency to build wind farms?

00:27:02.000 Everybody in the Congress, right, they would all say this is absurd, you can't declare a national emergency to do this sort of thing, this is a legislative process.

00:27:08.000 The same holds true for Nancy Pelosi.

00:27:10.000 If Barack Obama were doing that, Nancy Pelosi would be talking about the wonders of the executive branch. 0.99

00:27:15.000 The founders didn't understand, or they didn't foresee, that party politics would be so strong as to actually trump the interests, the governmental interests of the various branches.

00:27:25.000 It would be more important whether the president was of your party than whether the legislature was having its authority usurped.

00:27:31.000 It's a very dangerous thing.

00:27:33.000 It's why the founders never would have been okay with the rise of bureaucratic government.

00:27:36.000 That's not their fault.

00:27:36.000 They didn't think the president would ever have this much power.

00:27:38.000 They thought they'd circumscribe the power of the president.

00:27:40.000 Not so.

00:27:41.000 The rise of executive branch power has been everlasting and continuous throughout the course of the last century.

00:27:48.000 And we are seeing the effects of it now as the president of both parties, doesn't matter the party, continues to usurp more and more power from the legislature.

00:27:55.000 That is not a good precedent.

00:27:56.000 If you think it's a good precedent, wait until there's a democratic president, guys.

00:27:59.000 And don't give me the, well, Democrats are going to break the rules anyway, so Republicans should break the rules also.

00:28:04.000 If you use that logic, honestly, if you really believe that the Democrats are going to break every rule to effectuate their policies, just declare Trump dictator and be done with it.

00:28:11.000 It's an argument that proves too much.

00:28:13.000 We do still have certain constitutional and legal norms in this country that both parties do hew to for the most part, which is why it's a problem when people stray from those principles.

00:28:23.000 If you believe that when Democrats take power, they're going to declare the next president a dictator, then you should be calling for President Trump to simply override the Constitution and seize power now so as to prevent a left-wing dictatorship.

00:28:34.000 I don't believe that's the case.

00:28:36.000 I think the constitutional norms still prevail.

00:28:38.000 Call me foolish, call me optimistic, but those constitutional norms, despite gradual encroachments of power, have largely prevailed over the past couple of hundred years in the United States.

00:28:47.000 Okay, meanwhile, Democrats proving themselves incompetent once again as Amazon pulls out of New York City.

00:28:52.000 According to the New York Times, Amazon on Thursday canceled its plans to build an expensive corporate campus in New York City after facing an unexpectedly fierce backlash from lawmakers, progressive activists, and union leaders who contended that a tech giant did not deserve $3 billion in government incentives.

00:29:06.000 The vast majority of those incentives, by the way, were tax breaks.

00:29:10.000 Now, I've said before, I don't believe in giveaways to specific companies.

00:29:13.000 I think that's cronyistic.

00:29:15.000 I think that if you want to have a good working environment, you want to bring business into your state or city, lower the tax rate for everyone.

00:29:20.000 Don't give special giveaways to certain sized companies or to certain big companies that you want to bring into town.

00:29:27.000 With that said, was New York going to lose money by giving tax breaks?

00:29:31.000 No, they were not going to lose money by giving tax breaks.

00:29:33.000 They were going to gain money by bringing a giant business into Queens that was going to bring some 25,000 jobs with it.

00:29:39.000 Nonetheless, people on the left do not understand basic economics, and so they were very pleased with their own genius here.

00:29:46.000 It's pretty hilarious. 1.00

00:29:47.000 So in a second, I'm going to explain how pleased everyone was with their own stupidity. 1.00

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00:29:54.000 We'll explain in just one second, and then we'll get to our 2020 roundup.

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00:32:10.000 All righty.

00:32:17.000 So Amazon was getting mostly tax breaks to come to New York City.

00:32:21.000 There were certain cash grants that they were getting because they qualified under already applicable law in New York for these cash grants, which they shouldn't have these cash grant programs.

00:32:30.000 But leftists were very angry because they don't like Amazon.

00:32:32.000 The reason they don't like Amazon is because Amazon is big and Amazon is successful and Amazon provides jobs.

00:32:37.000 Who doesn't actually like Amazon?

00:32:38.000 The answer in New York City is pretty much no one.

00:32:40.000 By polling data, the vast majority of people in New York City were very much in favor of Amazon moving into the city.

00:32:46.000 That includes some 80% of Hispanics, 71% of blacks, and 52% of white people.

00:32:51.000 In fact, it was only white people who were even mildly divided on the issue.

00:32:55.000 It was not minorities. 0.94

00:32:55.000 Minorities were like, hey man, jobs. 0.94

00:32:58.000 Right?

00:32:59.000 I mean, why not? 0.99

00:33:00.000 It was mostly white people who are too prissy to have Amazon move in. 1.00

00:33:04.000 You know, the hipsters, like, oh no, Walmart's coming to town, the mom-and-pop store's gonna go out of business, as opposed to everyone else who's like, great, Walmart's coming to town, jobs, cheap stuff. 0.99

00:33:15.000 Unbelievable.

00:33:15.000 So AOC, who, believe it or not, has an economics either major or minor, still unclear on this, from Boston University, which means that Boston University should be shut down until we know what the hell is going on.

00:33:26.000 AOC explained her excitement at thrusting out a company from her district that would bring some 25,000 jobs to her district.

00:33:35.000 She's a genius.

00:33:36.000 I'm telling you, she's a genius. 0.50

00:33:37.000 So much freshness.

00:33:39.000 So much faceness.

00:33:41.000 It's really incredible. 0.92

00:33:41.000 Here she is, spouting utter nonsense that emerges from that fresh face. 0.92

00:33:47.000 Here we go. 0.97

00:33:47.000 I think it's incredible. 0.97

00:33:49.000 I mean, it shows that everyday Americans still have the power to organize and fight for their communities, and they can have more say in this country than the richest man in the world.

00:34:03.000 We could invest those $3 billion in our district ourselves if we wanted to.

00:34:07.000 We could hire out more teachers.

00:34:09.000 We can fix our subways.

00:34:10.000 We can put a lot of people to work for that money if we wanted to.

00:34:14.000 There was no guarantee that those jobs were for the New Yorkers that were here.

00:34:17.000 I think that we can absolutely come together to create an economic plan that actually invests in New Yorkers.

00:34:25.000 There are a few problems with what she is saying.

00:34:27.000 Problem number one.

00:34:28.000 I love when she says, we could take those three billion dollars and we could spend them here.

00:34:33.000 No, you can't.

00:34:34.000 No, you can't. 1.00

00:34:35.000 Let me explain because you're stupid. 1.00

00:34:37.000 Well, I'll explain very slowly using small words and clipped sentences. 1.00

00:34:41.000 Here's how a tax incentive works.

00:34:43.000 I come to your town and you say, instead of charging me a 30% tax, you will charge me a 20% tax.

00:34:50.000 I then bring my company and I pay a 20% tax on my income.

00:34:54.000 The city is richer for I am now paying a tax.

00:34:56.000 If I were not in the city, the tax would not be paid.

00:34:59.000 If you instead say, listen, I'm going to raise that tax back up to 30%.

00:35:02.000 I say, okay, fine.

00:35:03.000 I'm out.

00:35:04.000 You don't then get to claim that that 10% tax difference is money that is in your pocket.

00:35:09.000 I'm not there to pay the tax.

00:35:11.000 What the hell are you talking about? 0.94

00:35:13.000 This is so, I mean, it's not just economically illiterate. 0.98

00:35:17.000 It is mathematically and logically illiterate.

00:35:19.000 It doesn't make any sense at all.

00:35:20.000 It's the equivalent of me walking into a pizza store with a coupon that says $5 off, and I show it to the guy at the counter, and it was a $20 pizza, and now it's a $15 pizza.

00:35:31.000 And I give him the coupon.

00:35:31.000 And he says, you know what?

00:35:32.000 We don't accept that coupon anymore.

00:35:33.000 I say, you know what?

00:35:34.000 I'm out.

00:35:34.000 And I walk out.

00:35:35.000 I go across the street.

00:35:36.000 I buy a pizza there.

00:35:37.000 And then the guy turns to his manager and he says, I just made us $20.

00:35:40.000 No, you didn't.

00:35:44.000 I didn't give you any money.

00:35:45.000 What are you talking about?

00:35:47.000 Oh my God. 0.92

00:35:48.000 Even Andrew Cuomo, who is just a dummy, even he was like, what are you guys doing? 1.00

00:35:52.000 Are you guys crazy? 1.00

00:35:53.000 Are you crazy? 1.00

00:35:53.000 I just say this stuff for a laugh and you guys say it for real. 1.00

00:35:57.000 The hell's wrong with you?

00:35:58.000 He issued a statement saying, Amazon chose to come to New York because we are the capital of the world and the best place to do business. 0.51

00:36:04.000 However, a small group of politicians put their own narrow political interests above their community.

00:36:09.000 Why don't you name names, governor?

00:36:11.000 Go for it.

00:36:12.000 Let's hear it.

00:36:13.000 Who?

00:36:14.000 Who are these people who would put their own political interests above the needs of their community?

00:36:20.000 Bill de Blasio, who's a commie, he then blamed Amazon for pulling it out of the deal, which was hilarious.

00:36:25.000 So he originally was like a big fan of the deal, and then he's like, no, no, no, no, no.

00:36:28.000 The deal's bad.

00:36:29.000 You know why?

00:36:29.000 Because Amazon, if Amazon really cared about New York, they'd pay whatever tax we laid on them.

00:36:36.000 The New York Times has a piece today from some moronic columnist suggesting that New York just won a victory over Amazon.

00:36:43.000 See, when you offer incentives to a giant company to come to your city and provide jobs, and then you throw them out, that's not actually a victory. 0.76

00:36:51.000 You're no better off than when you started.

00:36:55.000 But the beautiful thing about being on the left is that nothing you ever say has to make any sense.

00:36:59.000 Truly, this makes no sense.

00:37:01.000 From any perspective, it doesn't make any sense. 0.99

00:37:02.000 But that's okay, because being on the left means pandering to the worst instincts and dumbest people among us, apparently. 0.99

00:37:10.000 Or at least the dumbest ideas among us. 0.99

00:37:12.000 Which brings us to our 2020 update. 0.70

00:37:14.000 Now, we have a new thing.

00:37:15.000 There are too many Democratic candidates.

00:37:16.000 Just too many.

00:37:17.000 There are 1,192.

00:37:19.000 one for each page of the budget bill, Democratic candidates in 2020.

00:37:23.000 So to try and keep them straight, we have added theme music for all of the various Democratic candidates.

00:37:28.000 And this allows us to bring you updates.

00:37:29.000 So here's our 2020 radicalism update.

00:37:32.000 We begin with Senator Elizabeth Warren.

00:37:35.000 Yeah, the colors of the wind, man.

00:37:42.000 So she tweeted out about Amazon, quote, Amazon, one of the wealthiest companies on the planet, just walked away from billions in taxpayer bribes, All because some elected officials in New York aren't sucking up to them enough.

00:37:58.000 How long will we allow giant corporations to hold our democracy hostage?

00:38:03.000 What?

00:38:04.000 They walked away from taxpayer bribes because elected officials aren't sucking up to them enough?

00:38:09.000 Fine, keep going with this and just drive all the business out of the city.

00:38:11.000 I guess that's your problem.

00:38:13.000 It's so funny. 0.90

00:38:13.000 Elizabeth Warren used to not be this insane. 0.90

00:38:15.000 Like really, I met Elizabeth Warren when she was at Harvard Law School. 0.99

00:38:18.000 She was at the welcoming dinner when I was being recruited for Harvard Law School.

00:38:22.000 She was not a crazy person then.

00:38:24.000 She was a progressive for sure, but she was not a complete nutjob. 0.98

00:38:26.000 To suggest that this is Amazon's fault because New York wouldn't suck up to them enough? 0.75

00:38:32.000 Like, it's not sucking up to provide a good business climate, but I guess it is if you're pandering for that left-wing Bernie Sanders vote.

00:38:37.000 Which brings us to Bernard McJay Sanders.

00:38:41.000 Here we go.

00:38:42.000 That is the Soviet national anthem for those keeping track at home.

00:38:51.000 So, Senator Bernie... He loves that song, by the way.

00:38:53.000 He sings it shirtless in the Soviet Union, the whole deal.

00:38:55.000 Senator Bernie Sanders reached out to Representative Ilhan Omar on Tuesday to offer his support and amid criticism from both Democrats and Republicans that the progressive freshman lawmaker trafficked in anti-Semitic tropes on Twitter.

00:39:08.000 Remember that time that Steve King lost his committee assignments from Republicans and everybody ran screaming away from him with their hair on fire?

00:39:14.000 Ilhan Omar says anti-semitic things every five seconds, as we discussed on the podcast yesterday, and Bernie Sanders bear hugs her.

00:39:21.000 Because this is what the progressive left has become.

00:39:23.000 They are fine with anti-semitism.

00:39:25.000 They are cool with anti-semitism.

00:39:26.000 In fact, they think that anti-semitism meshes well with the socialist perspective on the world.

00:39:31.000 Because Jews are too successful.

00:39:32.000 And because Jews are too successful, this means that they are part of the hierarchical free market structure that victimizes others. 1.00

00:39:39.000 Bernie Sanders has long been anti-Israel.

00:39:41.000 That's not a shock.

00:39:42.000 A lot of folks on the left are.

00:39:44.000 But openly embracing anti-Semites like Ilhan Omar, pretty amazing. 0.93

00:39:48.000 Apparently, Bernie Sanders said, quote, I talked to Ilhan last night to give her my personal support.

00:39:53.000 We will stand by our Muslim brothers and sisters.

00:39:55.000 Question, what makes you think that all Muslims are anti-Israel, anti-Semitic bigots?

00:40:00.000 Isn't that a little bit judgmental, Senator?

00:40:02.000 So there is your Bernie Sanders update.

00:40:04.000 We have many more of these candidates, many more of them, and theme songs.

00:40:08.000 So, next, Beto O'Rourke.

00:40:11.000 So you'll remember the congressperson from El Paso.

00:40:14.000 Here's Beto's theme song, man.

00:40:15.000 Right.

00:40:20.000 So, you'll recall that Beto O'Rourke down on the Texas border, punk rocker bangs in the eyes.

00:40:27.000 Flip your hair, man.

00:40:29.000 Beto O'Rourke, he did a rally next to President Trump the other day, and he talked about the border.

00:40:35.000 And while talking about the border, he said that walls are bad and walls kill people, which led Representative Dan Crenshaw to say, well, dude, do you want to tear down all those walls?

00:40:44.000 And Beto owned it, like a bro, like a dude.

00:40:48.000 Here he is saying, yeah, man, I'll tear down that wall, because Something.

00:40:53.000 And skateboarding.

00:40:56.000 If you could, would you take the wall down now?

00:40:58.000 Here.

00:40:58.000 Yes.

00:40:58.000 Like you have a wall.

00:40:59.000 Absolutely.

00:41:00.000 Knock it down.

00:41:00.000 I'd take the wall down.

00:41:01.000 And you think the city, you think if there's a referendum here in this city, that would pass?

00:41:06.000 I do.

00:41:07.000 What?

00:41:12.000 It's great.

00:41:12.000 I remember.

00:41:13.000 I'm old enough to remember when the New York Times actually ran a piece saying Republicans pounce.

00:41:17.000 They keep saying Democrats are open borders fanatics.

00:41:19.000 There's Beto.

00:41:21.000 One of your Democratic frontrunners saying that he would tear down an actual border wall that exists and has lowered the levels of illegal immigration.

00:41:29.000 And he says that people in his city would vote to tear down that border wall also.

00:41:33.000 Really?

00:41:34.000 Keep running on that.

00:41:35.000 Let's do that.

00:41:36.000 Okay, on to Senator Kamala Harris, the narc from California. 0.75

00:41:40.000 So Kamala Harris has herself an interesting week. 0.91

00:41:49.000 She is promoting an anti-lynching bill, which of course is fine. 1.00

00:41:52.000 You know, I'm very much in favor of the anti-lynching bill.

00:41:55.000 The anti-lynching bill basically just strengthens federal crime against lynching, which is fine.

00:42:01.000 I mean, lynching isn't taking place on a regular basis, but sure, good, okay.

00:42:04.000 Although, it seems to me it maybe should be a state crime instead of a federal crime, but alright.

00:42:09.000 So she spoke about that a little bit yesterday.

00:42:11.000 She also happens to be dominating the social media primary. 1.00

00:42:14.000 So according to Mediaite and a report from Axios, when it comes to the social media attention, when it comes to interactions, it looks like Kamala Harris is winning. 0.94

00:42:25.000 So Instagram interactions, Harris has 8.3 million.

00:42:28.000 Bernie Sanders comes in at second with 4.6 million, Warren at 2 million.

00:42:32.000 Twitter interactions, Kamala Harris has 14.4 million, Sanders 8 million, Warren 4.1 million.

00:42:38.000 On Facebook, Sanders is dominating.

00:42:40.000 On Facebook, he crushes everyone.

00:42:42.000 Sanders has 22.1 million engagements.

00:42:43.000 Harris has 2.4 million engagements.

00:42:45.000 Warren has 2.3 million engagements.

00:42:50.000 In the past three months, articles about Harris have generated about 16.5 million interactions on Facebook.

00:42:55.000 So, it's pretty obvious in the social media, in the social media arena, she is dominant. 0.99

00:43:01.000 She is growing quickly.

00:43:03.000 The only possible competitor on Facebook in terms of growth is Beto O'Rourke.

00:43:07.000 On Instagram, she's added 613,000 followers during the past three months.

00:43:12.000 So, a lot of momentum for the narc from California.

00:43:15.000 So, well done, Senator Kamala Harris.

00:43:17.000 Okay, which brings us to Cory McBooker.

00:43:22.000 Spartacus!

00:43:24.000 The Spartacus update.

00:43:25.000 The senator from New Jersey, he has a couple of problems.

00:43:28.000 Number one, he also pushed this anti-lynching bill, but then he said about the anti-lynching bill that we need an anti-lynching bill because of Jussie Smollett's story.

00:43:37.000 Oh, no.

00:43:39.000 He tweeted out, Well, we paid attention, and then the story turned out to be kinda like B.S.E.

00:43:42.000 So, there's that.

00:43:43.000 So, well done, Cory Booker.

00:43:43.000 Well, we paid attention, and then the story turned out to be kind of like BSE.

00:43:55.000 So there's that.

00:43:56.000 So well done, Cory Booker.

00:43:57.000 Again, everything he does is two steps too far.

00:44:01.000 The Nicolas Cage of American politics.

00:44:04.000 In fact, people in New Jersey don't even like him.

00:44:06.000 I love this poll.

00:44:06.000 There's a poll from New Jersey released early Thursday.

00:44:09.000 It says that Cory Booker would not make a good president.

00:44:12.000 42% of residents of his own state say that Cory Booker would not make a good president.

00:44:17.000 37% disagree.

00:44:20.000 He's got, by the way, he's got approval ratings, 48 to 36.

00:44:22.000 He has approval ratings about 48% in New Jersey, but a plurality of state residents in New Jersey say he would not make a good president.

00:44:30.000 So, ouch to Spartacus.

00:44:33.000 Apparently Spartacus is going to be captured by the authorities and something bad will happen, just like in the movie Spartacus.

00:44:39.000 Okay, meanwhile, we have our Kirsten Gillibrand update, as well the senator from New York known for taking every position on every issue.

00:44:49.000 Nobody knows what Kirsten Gillibrand thinks about anything, where she is on any single issue.

00:44:53.000 No one knows.

00:44:54.000 She's taken every position on every issue, which is one of the things that makes her so wildly unpopular. 0.98

00:44:59.000 There's a new poll out from Democratic primary voters in California.

00:45:03.000 And here is how it comes out.

00:45:05.000 It comes out Joe Biden, 26 percent.

00:45:07.000 Kamala Harris, 26 percent.

00:45:09.000 Kind of shockingly low for Kamala Harris, considering she's a senator from California. 1.00

00:45:12.000 Bernie Sanders at 20.

00:45:14.000 Bader at 8.

00:45:15.000 Elizabeth Warren at 7.

00:45:17.000 Cory Booker at 3.

00:45:19.000 And all the way down at 1 percent, below Pete Buttigieg, the mayor of South Bend, Indiana, is Kirsten Gillibrand.

00:45:27.000 She is currently tied with Marianne Williamson, the spiritual guru for Oprah.

00:45:32.000 So, Kirsten Gillibrand having some failure to launch.

00:45:34.000 So, right now, if you have to look at all of those candidates, Kamala Harris is the person who is the strongest among the candidates.

00:45:41.000 Beto is really steering left in a pretty radical fashion.

00:45:45.000 I promise you, when he was running for Senate in Texas, he was not running on the, let's dissolve the border with Mexico platform.

00:45:52.000 Turns out Texans probably wouldn't have liked that very much.

00:45:54.000 Now he's running on that platform because he's trying to cut off Kamala Harris's appeal to millennials. 0.62

00:45:59.000 So if you had to break down the various lanes in the Democratic Party primary, basically you've got the African-American lane, these are the lanes put out by 538, the African-American lane, Kamala Harris, gonna own that lane, is the presumption. 1.00

00:46:11.000 The Millennial lane, Beto is gonna own that lane. 1.00

00:46:14.000 There's the progressive lane that will be split between Sanders and Warren and Beto and maybe Kamala a little bit.

00:46:20.000 The mainstream lane that would presumably be split if we're just talking about current candidates.

00:46:24.000 The mainstream lane would be split between Kamala Harris and maybe Beto. 1.00

00:46:30.000 So right now it looks like a two-person race in terms of Kamala Harris and Beto.

00:46:33.000 I think Bernie Sanders has passed his prime.

00:46:34.000 I think he's done.

00:46:35.000 I think that Elizabeth Warren is toast as well.

00:46:39.000 She's fading away like a smoke signal off into the horizon.

00:46:41.000 So, right now, it's Beto versus Kamala, unless Joe Biden jumps in, which will get interesting, and then we'll have to come up with some theme song for him as well.

00:46:50.000 So we'll get to, we'll do that when he jumps in.

00:46:53.000 I promise you, we need more theme songs because there are one million candidates running.

00:46:56.000 Okay, time for a couple entries in the mailbag.

00:46:59.000 So, Jared says, hi, Ben.

00:47:00.000 I'm a freshman at a small Christian university in Southern Michigan.

00:47:03.000 One of my required courses is devoted to a study of the Old Testament.

00:47:07.000 It got me wondering, who is your favorite biblical character and why?

00:47:10.000 Thanks for all of your hard work.

00:47:12.000 Well, I mean, every Jew is obligated by law to say Moses because Moses is, of course, the progenitor of Judaism. 0.92

00:47:20.000 He was the man who brought down the tablets from the mountaintop.

00:47:24.000 He also happens to be an incredibly tragic character.

00:47:26.000 He basically commits one serious sin and there's argument about even what that sin is.

00:47:31.000 And then God doesn't allow him to lead the Jewish people into Israel. 0.52

00:47:33.000 So it would have to be Moses.

00:47:37.000 I have a sneaking fondness for Saul, who I feel is one of the more interesting characters in biblical literature because he obviously suffered from manic depression, and you can see that in the literature.

00:47:46.000 And he was somebody who was trying to do his best but was limited by his own flaws, so he's almost a Shakespearean tragic character.

00:47:53.000 The character of Phineas is an interesting character as well.

00:47:56.000 Phineas, of course, was famous for his zealotry.

00:47:59.000 You'll recall that in the book of Midbar, in the book of Numbers, Phineas, there's a situation where somebody's committing an open sin and Phineas takes up a spear and goes and kills that person out of zealousness.

00:48:11.000 And there's a whole argument in Jewish law about when you can do this and when you can't.

00:48:14.000 Really interesting argument.

00:48:16.000 Those are a couple of my favorites.

00:48:17.000 Joshua says, Hi Ben, I'm currently applying to medical school and I'm shocked by how new science has pervaded the entire process.

00:48:22.000 When studying for the MCAT, I learned that the official AAMC, the company that makes the test, prep materials and practice exams, essentially guaranteed a question stating that gender has no biological basis.

00:48:32.000 The vast majority of secondary applications to school had a checkbox for if I identified as part of the LGBTQ community.

00:48:38.000 Well, I think keeping your head down is probably the smart move.

00:48:40.000 I'm practical when it comes to this.

00:48:41.000 If the purpose of the conversation is to tell the truth and to speak your opinion, say what you want.

00:48:44.000 Is it better to deduct my head down until I practice or to be more outspoken throughout?

00:48:48.000 Shabbat Shalom.

00:48:49.000 Well, I think keeping your head down is probably the smart move.

00:48:52.000 I'm practical when it comes to this.

00:48:54.000 The question is, what is the purpose of the conversation?

00:48:56.000 If the purpose of the conversation is to tell the truth and to speak your opinion, say what you want.

00:49:01.000 But I assume that there are lots of areas of American practice in medicine where you might have political disagreements.

00:49:07.000 For example, if you're asked a question about how abortion is done, and you say, listen, I don't think I need to know that because I'm a religious person, I'm not going to perform an abortion.

00:49:16.000 Is that answer calibrated to get you to your goal?

00:49:19.000 The answer is probably not.

00:49:21.000 You do have to play some games when it comes to American professional life, and that's unfortunate. 0.93

00:49:25.000 It is also a demonstration that we should have accredited medical schools that don't participate in this kind of garbage. 0.69

00:49:30.000 The fact that the scientific establishment has been taken over by politically correct, anti-scientific nonsense It's really devastating. 0.61

00:49:36.000 It's devastating to watch as objective science is tossed out in favor of subjective silliness that is pumped into medical institutions by politically motivated actors.

00:49:47.000 Nathan says there are several studies in the academic literature detailing the correlation between perceived discrimination and the health of an individual.

00:49:53.000 In addition, there is no doubt in my mind that actual discrimination is negatively correlated to health.

00:49:57.000 This led me to wonder about the effects that identity politics and intersectionality have had on the health of Americans, especially in the minority community.

00:50:03.000 But I couldn't find a study that looked at all three.

00:50:05.000 Actual discrimination, perceived discrimination, and health at the same time.

00:50:09.000 That said, can you point to anything that has correlated perceived discrimination with negative health, while also determining the accuracy of the group's perceptions?

00:50:15.000 This is a fantastic question, and it's a question I have asked repeatedly.

00:50:18.000 So there are a lot of studies in the recent past about how black women die in childbirth more often, have more unhealthy babies, and the suggestion has been made that this is the result of systemic discrimination.

00:50:30.000 I have real doubts that the medical establishment is severely undercovering black women who are in labor or pregnant.

00:50:37.000 When there are higher maternal mortality rates, higher baby mortality rates in the black community, those things are largely linked to birth weight, and birth weight is largely linked to living style, what you eat and such.

00:50:46.000 And also youth.

00:50:47.000 If you're younger, if you're a teenager when you have a baby, you tend to have low birth weight problems.

00:50:51.000 But, the studies also tend to show that women who perceive discrimination are more likely to suffer stress, and therefore to suffer pregnancy-related complications.

00:51:01.000 The question that no one has ever been able to verify or ask is how much of the perceived discrimination is real.

00:51:06.000 Now here I bring up a very famous statement by Adam Carolla that I think is true.

00:51:10.000 I'm not saying that people are hallucinating racism. 0.96

00:51:13.000 I'm saying that there's lots of action in life every day that can either be perceived as people being stupid or perceived as actual discrimination. 0.93

00:51:20.000 So, when I was growing up, for example, my dad had a tendency, when I was much younger, I think he's grown out of it now, but when I was much younger, my dad had a tendency where if he saw somebody mistreat a Jew for some reason, he would immediately assume that it was anti-Semitism. 0.99

00:51:33.000 And I would say, well, maybe it's not anti-Semitism, maybe it's the person just being a jerk. 0.98

00:51:36.000 Adam Carolla has said the same. 0.99

00:51:37.000 He says, listen, if I were a black person driving down the highway and I were pulled over by the cops, I would immediately assume it was racial profiling.

00:51:43.000 Maybe it's just the cop being a tool. 0.99

00:51:46.000 Maybe it's just a cop being a jerk or a bad guy because it turns out that lots of white people get pulled over for no reason by the cops. 0.99

00:51:52.000 Or maybe it turns out that I am not correctly perceiving my own activity and I actually did violate the law. 0.98

00:51:59.000 There's really no way, except for cases like murder, where there's a documented effect, to look at racial discrimination in, for example, the criminal justice system.

00:52:08.000 The only way to match up police discrimination would be to match up, for example, the number of calls to the police describing purpose of a particular race to the number of arrests that are made by the police of a particular race.

00:52:21.000 It turns out those percentages match up exactly.

00:52:23.000 In other words, perception of human beings is notoriously unreliable, and studies that take as their basis that perceived discrimination equals actual discrimination are likely to be off by maybe an order of magnitude.

00:52:35.000 I mean, it's a real social science problem.

00:52:37.000 Gregory says, Hey Ben, while talking with my lady over some Sherry's berries yesterday, I had to eat some too.

00:52:42.000 Indeed, Sherry's berries Phenomenal. 0.78

00:52:44.000 Phenomenal!

00:52:45.000 Oh man.

00:52:46.000 They have kosher chocolate.

00:52:47.000 Chocolaty goodness.

00:52:48.000 Unbelievable.

00:52:50.000 Mind-blowing.

00:52:50.000 As we discussed the idea of possibly taking a vacation.

00:52:53.000 We both put out some ideas, but couldn't really decide what is the best place for your money.

00:52:56.000 Where do you believe stateside or overseas is the first place a young couple should spend some time to experience something different and maybe learn something new?

00:53:02.000 Thanks.

00:53:02.000 Well, I have to admit that I have not spent a ton of time abroad.

00:53:05.000 I'm a big fan of the United States.

00:53:07.000 The place that I thought was coolest that I had visited outside of Israel, which I have some religious reasons for thinking is pretty awesome.

00:53:13.000 If you're a religious person, Israel is unbelievable. 1.00

00:53:15.000 If you're a person who likes history and is a Christian or a Jew or Muslim, frankly, Israel is an amazing place to visit, an incredible place to visit.

00:53:24.000 If you are If you're a Catholic, if you love history, if you love culture, if you love art, I love Italy.

00:53:30.000 Italy is spectacular.

00:53:32.000 I've been to Italy with my wife, went there for a week, and I was just blown away by it.

00:53:35.000 It's fantastic.

00:53:35.000 Florence is amazing.

00:53:37.000 Rome is incredible.

00:53:38.000 Italy is an astonishingly great place.

00:53:40.000 So that's really cool.

00:53:42.000 If you're just looking for a place to chill out, Hawaii is still the best place on Earth.

00:53:45.000 I am very glad the United States annexed it simply so I could vacation there.

00:53:48.000 Personal selfishness coming into play right there.

00:53:51.000 But Hawaii is fantastic, and if you don't want to learn anything, you just want a vacation, Then you go check out Hawaii.

00:54:00.000 I find this to be untrue, but in your opinion, what would you say are some of the biggest threats in America? 0.93

00:54:05.000 The biggest threat in America is people not understanding the American bargain and believing that America is all about guaranteeing you free stuff rather than free dumb.

00:54:13.000 That is the biggest threat to America.

00:54:14.000 It's Americans who don't understand our own history, who don't care about our own history, who are intolerant of other people's opinions, who believe that they should be able to use the government as a club to compel people to do what they want. 0.74

00:54:23.000 That is the biggest danger to America.

00:54:25.000 The biggest dangers to America are from within.

00:54:26.000 They don't have to do with a giant tsunami that's going to hit the coast.

00:54:29.000 They don't even have to do with terrorism.

00:54:30.000 They have to do with the American Republic losing sight of its own way.

00:54:33.000 I wrote an entire book about this, The Right Side of History.

00:54:36.000 You should go check it out.

00:54:37.000 It's coming out soon.

00:54:38.000 I put my heart and soul into it.

00:54:40.000 I think you'll enjoy it.

00:54:41.000 Marcus says, Ben, I recently had a discussion with my cousin who just got back from South Korea about universal health care and its downfalls.

00:54:46.000 She mentioned that surprisingly, it has been very successful out there.

00:54:48.000 She said it was much more effective and expedient than when she went to doctors here in the States.

00:54:52.000 Have you read or seen anything regarding their system or have any input on the validity of its effectiveness?

00:54:56.000 I don't know enough about the South Korean system.

00:54:58.000 I have been looking at the United States healthcare system in some detail over the past couple of weeks because I really want to know more about how it compares and contrasts with other healthcare systems around the world.

00:55:06.000 The truth is the United States does have a heavily subsidized public sector healthcare system.

00:55:11.000 49% of all healthcare spending in the United States is done by the government.

00:55:15.000 About 66% of people in the United States are covered by employer-provided health care insurance.

00:55:20.000 Market incentives are largely skewed by Medicaid and Medicare.

00:55:23.000 But one area in which the United States is head and shoulders above everyone else.

00:55:27.000 There are a couple of places in which the United States is head and shoulders above every other health care system on planet Earth.

00:55:32.000 Number one, you got cancer?

00:55:34.000 We win.

00:55:35.000 If you have cancer, you have a grave disease, you don't want to be anywhere else.

00:55:38.000 You want to be in the place where you can get convenient care, And pay for it.

00:55:42.000 You don't want to be in a system where you have to wait online and they have rationed care for specialists and there aren't enough specialists because they're not being paid enough.

00:55:48.000 The United States is still number one with a bullet, by a long way, in terms of survival five years after diagnosis of cancer.

00:55:57.000 I think in second place is Switzerland, which also has a very privately based healthcare insurance system.

00:56:03.000 It just has an individual mandate that is not connected to your employer.

00:56:07.000 The United States is all, really where the United States is head and shoulders above everyone else, is also when it comes to the production of new goods and services.

00:56:15.000 The United States is responsible for over half of the world's medical patents.

00:56:18.000 We are responsible for the vast majorities of new drugs that come onto the market, and we pay a premium for that.

00:56:24.000 The reason all these companies are located in the United States is because we don't use the government to cram down prices on these R&D companies.

00:56:30.000 So, for all the talk about the United States and how much we spend on healthcare, we also make an enormous amount of money on healthcare.

00:56:36.000 The healthcare industry is an enormous growing industry in the United States.

00:56:39.000 The entire city of Pittsburgh is basically employed by the healthcare industry, where it used to be coal mining country.

00:56:45.000 So, there's some real upsides to the U.S.

00:56:47.000 healthcare system.

00:56:48.000 The downsides are that when it comes to emergency care, It's more expensive.

00:56:55.000 The downsides are that there's no quote-unquote universal health care coverage, although Medicaid basically provides something close to it.

00:57:01.000 But would I take any other system over the United States's?

00:57:05.000 Not really.

00:57:06.000 I mean, the only other one I think that is even remotely comparable, really, is maybe the Swiss healthcare system.

00:57:10.000 And that's because I'm not looking for what everybody else is looking for in a healthcare system.

00:57:13.000 I care far less about equality of outcome in a healthcare system.

00:57:17.000 I care much more about the ability to access new products and services, the ability to get care on demand.

00:57:22.000 The United States does not have month-long wait times for doctors.

00:57:25.000 I haven't looked at South Korea.

00:57:26.000 I'm just contrasting the United States with, for example, France, which is a system everybody seems to like a lot on the left.

00:57:32.000 And again, I think that the reason that I favor this is because I'm a free market person.

00:57:37.000 On a moral level, I don't believe that it's my job to pay for your health care.

00:57:40.000 I think that I can if I'm charitable, but if we have an incentive system that is so skewed that the government pays for everybody's health care, you're going to get a lot more dependents.

00:57:47.000 You're going to get a lot more demands on the health care system and a lot less supply unless you radically raise taxes, which is basically what's happened in Europe.

00:57:55.000 Alrighty, let's see.

00:57:56.000 One more question.

00:57:59.000 Jeremy says, Hi Ben, you have mentioned that you work out.

00:58:00.000 What is your routine?

00:58:01.000 Do you lift or do you just do cardio?

00:58:03.000 Do you even lift, bro?

00:58:05.000 So I do not do a lot of lifting.

00:58:07.000 I know it's trendy.

00:58:08.000 I do a fair bit of CrossFit, meaning I do a lot of pull-ups.

00:58:11.000 I do a lot of push-ups.

00:58:12.000 I do a lot of throwing of medicine balls.

00:58:15.000 I do a lot of kettlebell swings and push presses and that sort of stuff.

00:58:20.000 So that means that You know, I'm in pretty good shape.

00:58:23.000 I mean, I can knock out probably 30 pull-ups straight.

00:58:26.000 I can knock out 100 push-ups straight pretty easily.

00:58:29.000 But...

00:58:30.000 You know, I'm not, I'm not built like a mad truck.

00:58:32.000 That's it.

00:58:33.000 Listen, I mean, I'm, I don't want to get arrogant here, but beneath this, this humble exterior lies the body of a Greek God that happens to be a slightly skinnier Greek God. 0.59

00:58:44.000 I'm not going to be in any bodybuilding competitions.

00:58:46.000 All righty.

00:58:46.000 Time for, you know what?

00:58:47.000 Do we even have time for things I like and things I hate today?

00:58:49.000 I think we may have run out of time for things I like and things I hate.

00:58:52.000 So you know what?

00:58:52.000 Let's just skip it.

00:58:53.000 We'll do it next week.

00:58:55.000 But today, later on the show, we have two more hours.

00:58:58.000 It's going to be great.

00:58:58.000 There's so much good stuff coming up on the show later today.

00:59:00.000 Not only do we have a couple of great guests, but also I'm going to be doing Uncle Ben's SJW children's book reading.

00:59:07.000 And it's fantastic.

00:59:07.000 We did it last week.

00:59:09.000 This week, we feature a book by Richard Scarry that is so politically incorrect, it will make minds melt for all the parents on the left, which is why they should read it, because it'll be good for them.

00:59:19.000 We'll see you then.

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