The Ben Shapiro Show - And We’re Back! | Ep. 812

00:00:00.000 I'm back from vacation.

00:00:01.000 We're here to break down the Democratic race.

00:00:03.000 Justin Amash's GOP exit and border politics.

00:00:06.000 So much to talk about.

00:00:07.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

00:00:08.000 This is the Ben Shapiro Show.

00:00:09.000 So the vacation was great.

00:00:16.000 Thanks for asking.

00:00:17.000 Also, I will explain to you.

00:00:19.000 I do have to note really quick off the top.

00:00:21.000 I definitely picked the right week to leave California.

00:00:24.000 So that was great.

00:00:25.000 I left right during the earthquakes, coordinated with God.

00:00:28.000 God and I are like this, guys.

00:00:29.000 I mean, and it was just it was great.

00:00:31.000 So now we're back and we got to jump in.

00:00:32.000 So let's jump into the news.

00:00:34.000 Here is the news.

00:00:35.000 Joe Biden is dropping like a stone in the polls.

00:00:37.000 Now, the polls are all over the place a little bit with regard to who is currently In second place.

00:00:43.000 Basically, it is Joe Biden still at the top.

00:00:45.000 And then there is a bunching of Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders and Kamala Harris, all of whom are within basically a percentage point, according to the Real Clear Politics average.

00:00:56.000 But Biden has dropped precipitously from a month ago.

00:00:59.000 A month ago, he was up in the mid 30s, close to 40 percent, according to most of the polls.

00:01:05.000 And in every single poll now, he is dropping below 30 percent, except for a Hill poll about a week old.

00:01:10.000 So here are the last several polls for Joe Biden.

00:01:13.000 CNN has him at 22.

00:01:14.000 The Hill has him at 33.

00:01:16.000 Quinnipiac has him at 22.

00:01:18.000 ABC has him at 30.

00:01:19.000 The Economist has him at 23.

00:01:20.000 Okay, so he is somewhere between, I think it is safe to say, somewhere between 20 and 30.

00:01:25.000 And that is probably where he is.

00:01:28.000 He's probably in the mid-20s somewhere by these polls.

00:01:30.000 According to the RealClearPolitics average, he is currently at 26%.

00:01:32.000 Where it gets interesting is who's in second place.

00:01:36.000 So there are a bevy of polls that are all mixed up as to who is in second place.

00:01:39.000 So according to CNN, Kamala Harris has jumped into second place with 17% of the vote.

00:01:45.000 That poll was taken pretty much directly after the last debate.

00:01:48.000 She may have receded a little bit since then.

00:01:50.000 The latest poll is coming courtesy of The Economist and YouGov, and that came maybe three days ago.

00:01:56.000 That showed that Joe Biden was at 23%, followed by Elizabeth Warren at 19%, which would be a massive jump for Elizabeth Warren. 0.99

00:02:02.000 And that's a big difference between that and the Hill poll, which has her at 9%, so a 10-point spread there. 0.89

00:02:07.000 Followed by Kamala Harris at 15, followed by Bernie Sanders at 9, which would be a precipitous drop off for Bernie Sanders, and put him basically in Pete Buttigieg territory.

00:02:15.000 Buttigieg's big boost still has not come.

00:02:17.000 So Buttigieg, for all the talk about he's raised an enormous amount of money, and he's super talented in debate and all of this, he's cracked 10% in approximately one poll in the last two months.

00:02:28.000 So he is not anywhere close to the top of that field.

00:02:30.000 He's really in a solid fourth place.

00:02:34.000 But it's really a question as to who is second.

00:02:36.000 So according to The Economist, Elizabeth Warren is in second.

00:02:39.000 According to ABC, Bernie Sanders is still in second with 19%.

00:02:43.000 And according to Quinnipiac, Kamala Harris is in second with 20%.

00:02:47.000 So we really have no idea how the second kind of tier of the field is doing.

00:02:52.000 What we do know is that Joe Biden has been sliding.

00:02:54.000 And Joe Biden has been sliding because, as I have been predicting, Since weeks before Joe Biden jumped into the race, his first day was going to be his best day.

00:03:03.000 And the reason for that is twofold.

00:03:04.000 One, Joe Biden gaffes all the time.

00:03:07.000 He gaffes all the time.

00:03:08.000 He's a bad presidential candidate.

00:03:09.000 He was a bad presidential candidate in 1988.

00:03:11.000 He was a bad presidential candidate in 2008.

00:03:13.000 He is a bad presidential candidate.

00:03:15.000 And he keeps saying things that get him into trouble.

00:03:18.000 That is problem number one for him.

00:03:19.000 And that is a Joe Biden specific problem.

00:03:21.000 If Joe Biden had discipline, He wouldn't be in that much trouble.

00:03:24.000 If Joe Biden were anodyne, he wouldn't be in that much trouble.

00:03:27.000 If Joe Biden were boring, he wouldn't be in that much trouble.

00:03:30.000 But he's not.

00:03:31.000 He says things on a routine basis where he sticks his foot so far down his own throat that it ends up lodged in his esophagus and he has to have a minor surgery in order to remove it each and every time.

00:03:41.000 And with every minor surgery, he loses a fair amount of political blood.

00:03:45.000 That is problem number one for Joe Biden.

00:03:47.000 Problem number two for Joe Biden is not really a Joe Biden problem.

00:03:50.000 It is a modern American politics problem.

00:03:52.000 And that is Joe Biden has been in politics for a very long time.

00:03:55.000 We live in an era where the best thing to be is a cypher.

00:03:58.000 The best thing to be in American politics is somebody that nobody knows where you stand.

00:04:02.000 Nobody knows what you would do.

00:04:04.000 Nobody knows what your record is.

00:04:06.000 In this way, Donald Trump really was a cypher.

00:04:08.000 Donald Trump, when he ran in 2016, everybody knew his personality, and his personality was outsized.

00:04:13.000 He was a big TV star.

00:04:14.000 But nobody knew where he was politically.

00:04:16.000 He had taken every position on the map.

00:04:18.000 He had suggested he was for Canadian-style universal healthcare, but he was against Obamacare.

00:04:22.000 He had suggested that he was both for gun control and against gun control.

00:04:26.000 He had suggested for a while that he was pro-choice, and then he became pro-life.

00:04:28.000 So he was all over the place, and nobody really knew where he stood, including me, which is why I estimated that he would probably be more to the left Then he ended up being.

00:04:36.000 He's been a very conservative president.

00:04:38.000 In terms of most of his policies.

00:04:40.000 Well, the best thing to be in American politics is a person with no record, because if you have a record, if you've said things before, that means that people can attack you on those things.

00:04:48.000 And this has been where Joe Biden is.

00:04:50.000 Now, it is also that record that means that Americans are comfortable with him.

00:04:54.000 So the strongest point for Joe Biden is also his weakest point.

00:04:57.000 The fact that Joe Biden was vice president for eight years, the fact that Joe Biden has been in the Senate since 1732, since before the Senate existed, since Cato, Right.

00:05:07.000 That is both his benefit because we are all comfortable with Joe Biden.

00:05:11.000 We all kind of know who Joe Biden is.

00:05:12.000 It is also his detriment because it means that he has voted for things and that he has said things and that he has debated things.

00:05:18.000 He's actually had to take positions on policy.

00:05:20.000 The best thing to be is somebody who's never had to take a position.

00:05:23.000 Barack Obama never had to vote on the Iraq war because he didn't enter the United States Senate until 2006.

00:05:29.000 There are just too many members of the Democratic Party race right now who don't have a record.

00:05:35.000 They've actually had to vote on things.

00:05:37.000 They've gotten to vote against things, which is a nice, convenient place to be.

00:05:40.000 But if you're in the Senate for a long period of time, that means your name is on legislation.

00:05:43.000 It means that you may have backed things that were necessary in 1994, a.k.a.

00:05:47.000 the criminal reform bill, the crime bill.

00:05:51.000 And then those become unpopular over time.

00:05:54.000 Maybe it means that you've had to work with senators who are really nasty people, as Joe Biden did 30 years ago.

00:05:59.000 All of that can be dredged up against you, whereas if you are Kamala Harris and you joined the United States Senate in the last five minutes, and you joined the United States Senate at a time where you didn't have to vote on any major policy proposals except to say no to Donald Trump, well, that means that things are pretty convenient for you.

00:06:13.000 So Joe Biden, he's comfortable.

00:06:15.000 The American people feel comfortable with him.

00:06:17.000 It's why he, in general, in sort of the general polling, The general election polling, Joe Biden is far and away the strongest candidate against Donald Trump because he has that record, because people are comfortable with him.

00:06:29.000 In those polls, Joe Biden is consistently running above 50%.

00:06:31.000 There is not another Democrat in the field who's running above 50%.

00:06:36.000 Every other Democrat is basically running dead even with Donald Trump.

00:06:39.000 Joe Biden is running like 10 points ahead.

00:06:41.000 And then every other Democrat is running within spitting distance of Donald Trump, including Kamala Harris, who's running basically an even race with Donald Trump at this point, which you would assume means that Trump wins.

00:06:51.000 Because this will be the point where people are most positive about Kamala Harris, not the point at which they're most negative about Kamala Harris.

00:06:57.000 So the best candidate for Democrats in a general election is precisely the candidate who is also most vulnerable in a primary.

00:07:03.000 And we're going to get to Joe Biden's bifurcated candidacy and why in a general election he'd look good right now, but in a primary he looks really bad right now.

00:07:12.000 Why you'd want to sell Joe Biden if you were in the Joe Biden stock market, if you're in the presidential stock market.

00:07:17.000 We'll get to that in just a second.

00:07:18.000 First, I'm a huge baseball fan.

00:07:20.000 I'm like a nut about baseball.

00:07:22.000 I'm a huge baseball fan.

00:07:24.000 In fact, I even wrote a book with my dad about the Chicago White Sox winning the World Series.

00:07:28.000 I know, for all seven White Sox fans.

00:07:31.000 Baseball is the best.

00:07:32.000 And in baseball, like in any sport, there is nothing as exciting as a fantastic rivalry.

00:07:36.000 In fact, the White Sox and the Cubs played over the weekend.

00:07:38.000 My White Sox split with the Cubs.

00:07:39.000 In the total series, 62-60 White Sox.

00:07:42.000 But there is a new show, a new podcast.

00:07:44.000 It's from Wondery and it's called Sports Wars.

00:07:47.000 This is truly awesome.

00:07:48.000 It tells the stories of some of the greatest sports rivalries of all time.

00:07:51.000 They've got Brett Favre versus Aaron Rodgers.

00:07:53.000 Rafael Nadal and Roger Federer, which is one of my favorite sports rivalries.

00:07:56.000 Nadal dominates Federer head-to-head, but Federer is the better overall player.

00:07:59.000 Former NBA stars like Isaiah Thomas and Michael Jordan.

00:08:02.000 Michael Jordan basically militated to keep Isaiah Thomas off the Dream Team.

00:08:05.000 Even teammates like Shaq and Kobe.

00:08:08.000 We'll have to see if LeBron and Anthony Davis Develop that sort of rivalry.

00:08:11.000 Their upcoming series over at Wondery on college football rivalries will cover Oklahoma versus Texas and Georgia versus Florida.

00:08:17.000 The rivalries get pretty wild and insane.

00:08:20.000 Listen to Sports Wars right now on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or wherever you're listening right now.

00:08:25.000 Again, go check out Sports Wars.

00:08:26.000 It really is awesome.

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00:08:30.000 Go check it out.

00:08:31.000 Sports Wars on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or wherever you're listening right now.

00:08:34.000 OK, so Joe Biden's candidacy.

00:08:36.000 For a general election, looks good.

00:08:38.000 For a primary, it looks really bad.

00:08:40.000 So here is general election Joe Biden.

00:08:42.000 And this is exactly the sort of stuff you will be attacked on in a primary.

00:08:45.000 So Joe Biden was asked about decriminalizing border crossing.

00:08:48.000 The Democratic Party, in this primary, is running headlong for a cliff.

00:08:53.000 They're embracing every far-left position they can get their hands on.

00:08:56.000 It's truly incredible.

00:08:57.000 In the last debate, virtually every Democrat pledged to decriminalize border crossing.

00:09:02.000 Now, what would that do?

00:09:03.000 It would actually encourage people to cross the border illegally, not at ports of entry.

00:09:07.000 It is not illegal to cross the American border at a port of entry and claim asylum.

00:09:11.000 You do not have to be an illegal immigrant.

00:09:13.000 It is illegal to claim asylum falsely, but if you walk across a border port of entry and then you claim asylum, not only is that not illegal, it is purely legal and you could be given citizenship on the basis of your asylum claim.

00:09:24.000 What is illegal is to try and swim the Rio Grande.

00:09:27.000 We don't want people doing that because it's very dangerous.

00:09:29.000 We don't want people doing that because we do not have proper policing along our 2,000 mile border with Mexico.

00:09:36.000 But every Democrat, except for Joe Biden now, has basically come out and said they want to decriminalize border crossing.

00:09:41.000 Now, what would that mean?

00:09:42.000 It would mean that when you pick people up...

00:09:44.000 And they claim asylum.

00:09:45.000 Instead of you being able to detain them for illegally crossing the border, you'd be forced to catch and release them pretty much immediately.

00:09:52.000 You'd pretty much be forced to allow them to be released into the general population, into the United States, instead of being deported for the simple crime of crossing the border illegally.

00:10:02.000 They would make it the same as crossing a border points of entry.

00:10:04.000 Now, if you want more dead people floating down the Rio Grande, makes perfect sense.

00:10:09.000 You want more people crossing that desert and trying to cross through an area that is unguarded because if they are ever caught in the United States, they can say, listen, I didn't, my entry wasn't illegal, so now I'm claiming asylum and I can live here for years and years and years.

00:10:22.000 That is bad policy.

00:10:23.000 Joe Biden knows it's bad policy.

00:10:25.000 He says it's bad policy.

00:10:26.000 This is why in a general election, it'd be much more dangerous to President Trump than any of the other Democrats.

00:10:31.000 It's also why the Democrats will slaughter him over this sort of stuff.

00:10:35.000 There are people who are running close to you now who are saying decriminalize coming into the country illegally.

00:10:42.000 Do you believe that should be decriminalized?

00:10:43.000 No, I don't.

00:10:44.000 No, I don't.

00:10:45.000 I think people should have to get in line, but if people are coming because they're actually seeking asylum, they should have a chance to make their case.

00:10:53.000 I would be surging, as we did and Barack and I did, surging folks to the border to make those concrete decisions.

00:11:01.000 OK, this is the correct answer in a general election.

00:11:06.000 It is the wrong answer in primary.

00:11:07.000 Here's another one.

00:11:08.000 Here's Joe Biden talking about keeping your health insurance.

00:11:11.000 So in a general election, this is obviously necessary.

00:11:14.000 Suggesting to 177 million Americans they're going to lose their private health insurance as Kamala Harris has now done and then undone and then done and then undone and then done.

00:11:22.000 She switched her position on this no less than five times in the past three weeks.

00:11:25.000 Joe Biden's been consistent.

00:11:26.000 He says, listen, you're going to get to keep your insurance.

00:11:29.000 Maybe we'll have a public option, which would be a bad idea.

00:11:31.000 But this is a palatable pitch to Americans.

00:11:34.000 If you think that Donald Trump can't run on, the Democrats want to take away your health insurance, you're out of your mind.

00:11:39.000 There's a strong general election pitch from Joe Biden.

00:11:41.000 It is not strong enough for the Democratic primary.

00:11:43.000 Here's Joe Biden.

00:11:44.000 We're in a situation where if you provide an option for anybody who, in fact, wants to buy into Medicare for All, they can buy in.

00:11:53.000 They buy in.

00:11:54.000 And they can do it.

00:11:55.000 But if they like their employer-based insurance, which a lot of unions broke their neck to get, a lot of people like their, they shouldn't have to give it up.

00:12:01.000 The flip of that is, if you don't go my way, and you go their way, you have to give up all that.

00:12:07.000 And what's going to happen when you have 300 million people landing on a health care plan?

00:12:11.000 How long is that going to take?

00:12:12.000 What's it going to do?

00:12:14.000 OK, exactly right.

00:12:15.000 Exactly right. 1.00

00:12:17.000 I've found myself a Joe Biden defender in this Democratic primary simply because all the other Democrats are out of their damned minds. 0.98

00:12:23.000 And it's why Joe Biden would do well in a general election. 0.97

00:12:25.000 But this is not going to avail him at all because he is at war with the heart and soul of his party.

00:12:30.000 This is how you end up with Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi as the new moderates in the Democratic Party.

00:12:35.000 That's how crazy these folks have gone.

00:12:37.000 Here is Joe Biden going after Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez, suggesting that she is too radical for the party, which of course she is.

00:12:42.000 By the way, I will mention here, AOC, my goodness, that is a person who does not know anything about anything.

00:12:49.000 I mean, really does not know.

00:12:50.000 Listen, it's my first day back.

00:12:51.000 It's obligatory that I mention AOC.

00:12:53.000 But in this context, she really messed her pants over the weekend.

00:12:56.000 I mean, she...

00:12:59.000 President Trump apparently referred to her as Evita Peron in a new book that's set to go on sale in mid-July.

00:13:06.000 He compared her to Eva Peron.

00:13:09.000 And Ocasio-Cortez then took that comparison as a compliment.

00:13:15.000 She then tweeted out a quote from Eva Peron.

00:13:20.000 And she tweeted out a quote from Evita Peron.

00:13:23.000 I know that, like every woman of the people, I have more strength than I appear to have.

00:13:27.000 There's only one problem.

00:13:28.000 Eva Peron was a Nazi sympathizer who seized Jewish property in exchange for Nazis being able to settle in Argentina and help destroy the Argentine economy. 0.99

00:13:36.000 But sure, I mean, I guess that's AOC if AOC wants it. 1.00

00:13:39.000 God, she is so, she's so stupid. 1.00

00:13:42.000 So when Joe Biden attacks AOC or when Nancy Pelosi attacks AOC, It is perfectly fitting. 1.00

00:13:47.000 Unfortunately for them, that is not going to play in the Democratic Party primaries.

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00:15:01.000 OK, so Biden goes after AOC and he suggests that AOC is too radical for the party and basically she won a primary, which, of course, is exactly right.

00:15:10.000 How do you convince the party that these more advanced ideas, all in on Medicare for all, that matter to them?

00:15:18.000 I wouldn't call them advanced.

00:15:19.000 But they're popular in the party.

00:15:21.000 Well, by the way, watch.

00:15:23.000 That's what this election is about.

00:15:24.000 I'm really, I'm happy to debate that issue and all those issues with my friends because guess what?

00:15:29.000 Again, look who won the races.

00:15:33.000 Look who won last time out.

00:15:35.000 We had, and by the way, I think, I think Ocasio-Cortez is a brilliant, bright woman, but she won a primary. 0.98

00:15:43.000 In the general election fights, who won?

00:15:46.000 Okay, so Joe Biden is correct about Everything there except her being a brilliant, bright woman.

00:15:51.000 That, of course, is wildly untrue.

00:15:53.000 But Biden knows that he's not allowed to just say the truth, which is she's embarrassing to every Democrat who has two brain cells to rub together.

00:16:00.000 Finally, Biden is getting frustrated.

00:16:02.000 So Biden is getting frustrated because he understands he's the best general election candidate.

00:16:06.000 And so he's basically threatening other Democrats.

00:16:08.000 Listen, guys, you're coming after me.

00:16:10.000 I could roast you. 1.00

00:16:11.000 I could roast you alive. 0.97

00:16:12.000 Now, this sort of aggressive language would play well in a general against Donald Trump, who's also very aggressive. 0.99

00:16:17.000 In a primary, it looks as though he's a bully.

00:16:20.000 It's so easy to go back and go back 30, 40, 50 years and take a context and take it completely out of context.

00:16:27.000 And I mean, you know, I...

00:16:29.000 I get all this information about other people's past and what they've done and not done.

00:16:35.000 And, you know, I'm just not going to go there.

00:16:37.000 If we keep doing that, that's, I mean, we should be debating what we do from here.

00:16:41.000 For example, this whole thing about race and busing.

00:16:44.000 Well, you know, I think if you take a look, our positions aren't any different as we're finding out.

00:16:50.000 To Senator Harris, who said she sees it as a tool, not a must in all circumstances.

00:16:56.000 Look at my record.

00:16:57.000 OK, and Joe Biden is laughing there because he is correct.

00:17:00.000 But this is the point.

00:17:01.000 This is the point.

00:17:01.000 He had to vote on forced busing.

00:17:04.000 He said no.

00:17:05.000 Kamala Harris has never had to vote on the issue.

00:17:08.000 And so here is the problem.

00:17:09.000 He's got a record and that's what he's pointing out.

00:17:11.000 He says, listen, I wasn't prepared for the debate attack, which is inexcusable.

00:17:14.000 It's inexcusable that he wasn't prepared for that attack, considering that Senator Cory Booker had been attacking him on basically the same stuff the week before.

00:17:21.000 But I think Biden really was unprepared for the attack.

00:17:23.000 I think that Biden thought that this was going to be everybody treating each other decently.

00:17:27.000 Everybody was going to be nice to him.

00:17:28.000 He was going to be nice to everybody.

00:17:30.000 They were all going to run against Donald Trump.

00:17:31.000 And that's not the case.

00:17:32.000 He's been ripped down because the same stuff that makes him attractive in a general election makes him wildly unattractive in a primary.

00:17:38.000 Here's Joe Biden saying he wasn't prepared for the debate attack, and that's why he's probably not going to be the nominee, guys.

00:17:43.000 They're going to come after you.

00:17:44.000 Sure, they're going to come after you.

00:17:45.000 Were you prepared for them to come after you?

00:17:47.000 I was prepared for them to come after me, but I wasn't prepared for the person coming at me, the way she came at me. 1.00

00:17:52.000 She knew Beau.

00:17:52.000 She knows me.

00:17:54.000 I don't... Anyway, I... But here's the deal.

00:17:57.000 What I do know, and it's the good and the bad news, the American people think they know me, and they know me.

00:18:02.000 Okay.

00:18:02.000 And again, that is the, the bad news for Joe Biden and the good news for Joe Biden, because Joe Biden is going to be forced to back away and back away and back away.

00:18:11.000 That record means he's going to have to keep backing away.

00:18:13.000 So for example, over the weekend, he apologized for his remarks on segregationists.

00:18:18.000 This is such a mistake for him.

00:18:19.000 It's a mistake because his remarks on segregationists were not pro-segregation.

00:18:23.000 He said these people were mean and they were nasty, but sometimes you have to make deals with mean, nasty people in the Senate. 0.67

00:18:29.000 Everybody understood that, except for people who cynically took him out of context.

00:18:32.000 Joe Biden instead decided to apologize for all of this, which just opened up a new line of attack from Democrats who said, well, you know, he should have apologized for this before, except secret.

00:18:43.000 This is the routine now, is that Joe Biden, who was Barack Obama's VP for eight years, and the media never discovered that he was a secret Ku Klux Klan member.

00:18:52.000 Apparently he is.

00:18:53.000 He apologized for his remarks on segregationists over the weekend.

00:18:57.000 Was I wrong a few weeks ago to somehow give the impression to people that I was praising those men who I successfully opposed time and again?

00:19:08.000 Yes, I was.

00:19:10.000 I regret it.

00:19:12.000 I'm sorry for any of the pain or misconception.

00:19:15.000 They may have caused anybody.

00:19:17.000 The fact that Joe Biden is out there apologizing, he is in such trouble.

00:19:21.000 And his people, when I say his people, I mean his friends, his allies, they are not coming to his defense.

00:19:26.000 And the chief allies that matter here are the Obamas.

00:19:28.000 Barack Obama has been absolutely silent.

00:19:30.000 Now, it's not as though Barack Obama has to endorse Joe Biden this early in the primary season.

00:19:34.000 He doesn't have to.

00:19:35.000 Although, the truth is that very often presidents do endorse their vice presidential candidates very, very early on.

00:19:43.000 Put that aside, Obama doesn't actually have to endorse him.

00:19:46.000 What he does have to do, as a decent human being, is come out and say, listen, I know Joe Biden.

00:19:50.000 Joe Biden is not a racist.

00:19:51.000 These attacks are unfair.

00:19:53.000 Obama's not doing it, which is an amazing, amazing thing.

00:19:56.000 Michelle Obama, who knows Joe Biden, she refused to come out and help Joe Biden out.

00:20:00.000 So she was asked about Biden and she just basically let it go.

00:20:03.000 She let it go.

00:20:04.000 Because more important for Michelle and Barack Obama to keep their credentials in order with the far left than it is for them to defend somebody that they know and supposedly love.

00:20:15.000 So here's Michelle Obama absolutely undercutting Joe Biden when asked about this stuff.

00:20:19.000 If anything, would you like to say about the Kamala Biden dust-up?

00:20:23.000 He apologized today.

00:20:24.000 You've been following that.

00:20:25.000 Do you have any thoughts about that?

00:20:26.000 I do not.

00:20:27.000 Okay.

00:20:29.000 Let me ask you this.

00:20:33.000 Moving on.

00:20:34.000 Moving on.

00:20:35.000 I've been doing this rodeo far too long.

00:20:37.000 Yeah, moving on.

00:20:38.000 Like, no comments.

00:20:40.000 Yeah, moving on.

00:20:41.000 And no comment works, too.

00:20:42.000 And no comment, by the way, is a complete sentence.

00:20:46.000 Well, all she has to do right there is say, I like both Senator Harris and Joe Biden, and I know that Joe Biden is not a racist.

00:20:53.000 That's all that she has to say.

00:20:54.000 And she won't do it.

00:20:55.000 She won't do it.

00:20:56.000 The Obamas are happy to see Joe Biden go down.

00:20:59.000 And this is the problem for Joe Biden.

00:21:01.000 Now, meanwhile, the attacks on Joe Biden are incredibly cynical.

00:21:04.000 Now, I pointed this out after the debate between what was effectively Joe Biden and Kamala Harris.

00:21:09.000 Nothing else that happened in that debate has any lasting impact or anything that matters.

00:21:13.000 Kamala Harris attacked Joe Biden on his stance on federally mandated force busing, which is one of the great policy fails in modern American history.

00:21:21.000 She attacked his stance on that.

00:21:22.000 And I said at the time, this is a cynical attack because Kamala Harris does not believe herself in forced busing.

00:21:28.000 She's just doing this to imply that Biden is a racist without any evidence that Joe Biden is a racist.

00:21:34.000 It turns out, guess who was right?

00:21:36.000 That's right.

00:21:36.000 He's got two thumbs.

00:21:37.000 He's getting thumbs up right now.

00:21:38.000 They're pointing directly at that guy.

00:21:40.000 I was right about this because Kamala Harris was being incredibly cynical. 1.00

00:21:43.000 And I'm going to get to that in just a second.

00:21:45.000 So first of all, Kamala Harris is trying to run as the as the most Effective candidate for black Americans in this race. 1.00

00:21:54.000 Very early on, it was clear that this is what her candidacy had to be.

00:21:56.000 Cory Booker is also trying to wrest this title from her.

00:21:59.000 Joe Biden is running basically even with folks like Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren among white voters, but he is running way ahead of them among black voters.

00:22:07.000 Kamala Harris is trying to carve into that lead among black voters. 0.97

00:22:11.000 And what she is finding is that she has a fairly large problem here because Joe Biden's black vote share is still extraordinarily high.

00:22:20.000 So in the latest YouGov poll, for example, black voters were split 36 to 13 between Biden and Harris.

00:22:26.000 But those polls are all over the place.

00:22:28.000 The Quinnipiac poll, which had Biden narrowly leading Harris overall, also had him narrowly leading Harris among black voters 31 to 27 percent.

00:22:34.000 CNN had a 25 to 19 percent split among non-white respondents.

00:22:41.000 Reuters and Ipsos found that Biden's black support had been cut in half.

00:22:44.000 So Kamala Harris is trying to carve into that by claiming, alternatively, that Joe Biden is actually a secret racist.

00:22:50.000 And also, she says, I'm not saying that.

00:22:53.000 She's totally saying that.

00:22:54.000 She's lying.

00:22:55.000 She says all that.

00:22:56.000 I'm not saying Joe Biden is a racist, but...

00:23:00.000 As your grandmother always told you, whatever happens in a sentence before but doesn't matter.

00:23:04.000 When she says Joe Biden isn't a racist, but he keeps complimenting segregationists, and he didn't support forced busing, what she's really saying is that secretly, down deep, he's got racial animus for black folks.

00:23:16.000 Simultaneously, Kamala Harris is trying to pose as some sort of civil rights warrior, despite the fact that Kamala Harris is not old enough to be a civil rights warrior. 0.91

00:23:23.000 Kamala Harris is now citing her record as being a school child who was in an already integrating district in Berkeley, by the way.

00:23:30.000 It was already being well integrated before Kamala Harris was really around in Berkeley. 1.00

00:23:35.000 But when you were seven, you didn't have all that much impact on local policy, as it turns out.

00:23:39.000 Well, Kamala Harris is now likening herself to Rosa Parks. 1.00

00:23:43.000 To Rosa Parks.

00:23:44.000 Here is what she says.

00:23:45.000 How Kamala Harris is like Rosa Parks is beyond me.

00:23:48.000 She has no record that suggests Rosa Parks.

00:23:49.000 She has no record that suggests civil rights hero.

00:23:51.000 Nonetheless, this is her shtick.

00:23:53.000 The fight of black women has always been fueled and grounded in faith and in the belief of what is possible.

00:24:04.000 We have always built the future that we can see and believe in and fight for.

00:24:12.000 And that's why Sir Jonah spoke.

00:24:15.000 It's why May flew. 0.98

00:24:17.000 It's why Rosa and Claudette sat.

00:24:19.000 It's why Maya wrote. 0.96

00:24:21.000 It's why Fannie organized. 1.00

00:24:23.000 It's why Shirley ran. 1.00

00:24:25.000 And why I stand here as a candidate for President of the United States.

00:24:31.000 She's in the long line of all of these people.

00:24:33.000 Except for how Barack Obama was already president of the United States and you know was black and all of that. 0.99

00:24:37.000 Kamala Harris is just like all of these people.

00:24:40.000 How?

00:24:42.000 I mean, I guess she's black too, so I guess that's the commonality.

00:24:45.000 But what in her record suggests that she is a civil rights hero like any of the people that she just mentioned?

00:24:50.000 Not a thing.

00:24:51.000 But that's her campaign. 1.00

00:24:52.000 We'll get to more of that in just one second.

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00:26:08.000 Okay, so Kamala Harris is running on the dual program of Joe Biden is a secret racist and I'm a civil rights hero. 0.87

00:26:14.000 None of those two things are true. 0.54

00:26:17.000 And she is so cynical. 0.93

00:26:18.000 She is so manipulative. 0.91

00:26:20.000 I object to this on a moral level, on a real moral level. 0.85

00:26:23.000 What Kamala Harris is doing to Joe Biden here is disgusting. 1.00

00:26:25.000 And again, I'm not a Joe Biden defender.

00:26:27.000 I don't think that Joe Biden has any great shakes as a politician.

00:26:29.000 I've opposed him politically my entire career.

00:26:32.000 I think that he's been wrong on 98% of all the things he has ever said.

00:26:35.000 The only stuff he has ever said right is the stuff where he has pointed out that his colleagues are too far to the left.

00:26:40.000 That's it.

00:26:41.000 But what Kamala Harris is doing here is deeply cynical and gross. 1.00

00:26:44.000 So here is Kamala Harris saying yesterday, well, you know, Biden hasn't apologized yet.

00:26:48.000 He hasn't he hasn't agreed that opposing busing was wrong.

00:26:51.000 Now, Kamala Harris does not does not support busing.

00:26:56.000 She has the exact same position on federally mandated forced busing that Joe Biden had.

00:27:02.000 The exact same position.

00:27:04.000 In fact, let's start with that clip.

00:27:06.000 Here's Harris saying that she'd consider but not mandate busing.

00:27:09.000 Now, I asked this question after the debate, and people got uptight with me, and I said it.

00:27:14.000 As the debate was happening, I tweeted out, Kamala Harris does not support forced busing.

00:27:17.000 She is ripping Joe Biden for not supporting a policy that no one supports in the United States.

00:27:22.000 Nobody in the United States, black or white, is seriously in favor of taking children and busing them across county lines to encourage the quote unquote proper racial mix of children in particular schools.

00:27:34.000 No one is in favor of that policy because it was an enormous fail when it was tried in the 1970s as well as the 1980s.

00:27:39.000 Federally mandated force busing was one of the most divisive and terrible pieces of federal policy devised in the last half century.

00:27:46.000 It was a very, very bad piece of policy, which is why it wasn't supported by something like 80 percent of Americans.

00:27:53.000 It led to tremendous unintended consequences like vast amounts of white flight outside of major integrated cities.

00:28:01.000 It led to the devastation of tax bases.

00:28:03.000 It led to the starting of charter schools and private schools.

00:28:06.000 It led to a less integrated public school system overall.

00:28:10.000 That's what forced busing did, which is why I said, if Kamala Harris supports forced busing, let's hear her plan. 1.00

00:28:15.000 Let's hear her make the case.

00:28:16.000 Well, she was finally asked.

00:28:17.000 I said, why doesn't anyone in the media ask her about this?

00:28:19.000 Because it's obvious what she's going to say.

00:28:21.000 Now, her spokesperson, Ian Sams, originally said that she did support federally mandated forced busing.

00:28:28.000 And then Kamala Harris reversed herself. 1.00

00:28:30.000 She said, yeah, I'd consider, but I wouldn't mandate busing, which is exactly what Joe Biden had said.

00:28:37.000 Busing is a tool among many that should be considered when we address the issue, which is a very current issue as well as a past issue, of desegregation in American schools.

00:28:48.000 So I think of busing as being in the toolbox of what is available and what can be used for the goal of desegregating American schools. 0.99

00:28:58.000 She's completely full of crap. 1.00

00:28:59.000 When people say things like, I think that deserves a conversation, what a politician is really saying is, no, I don't think it deserves a conversation. 1.00

00:29:07.000 It's not my policy.

00:29:08.000 When somebody says, how do you feel about X?

00:29:10.000 And a politician says, we should have a conversation.

00:29:12.000 What the politician actually means is, don't really want to have a conversation about that because I don't support it.

00:29:18.000 But I'm going to give you the sop of saying that we should have a conversation about this.

00:29:22.000 Ian Sams.

00:29:23.000 Hey, on July 4th, tweeted out, Okay, except for the fact that if you actually look at the racial segregation statistics, de facto, not de jure, not enforced by law, but de facto, racial segregation in America's schools today is as bad as it was during the 1980s.

00:29:32.000 Okay, except for the fact that if you actually look at the racial segregation statistics, de facto, not de jure, not enforced by law, but de facto, racial segregation in America's schools today is as bad as it was during the 1980s.

00:29:46.000 It's in fact worse than it was during the late 1980s.

00:29:49.000 So what he's saying just doesn't hold.

00:29:53.000 So Kamala Harris has the exact same position as Joe Biden.

00:29:56.000 The exact same position.

00:29:58.000 But that didn't stop Kamala Harris from attacking Joe Biden over federally mandated busing and suggesting that Biden is in closet fashion a racist for not having supported the exact same policies she currently opposes back in the 1970s. 0.98

00:30:12.000 Sadly, we do not agree.

00:30:13.000 I've asked him and have yet to hear him agree that busing that was court-ordered and mandated in most places and in that era in which I was bused was necessary.

00:30:28.000 And he has yet to agree that his position on this, which was to work with segregationists and oppose busing, was wrong.

00:30:37.000 Period.

00:30:38.000 Okay, so I guess her new case is that if you have the same position in 1975 that she has today, then that means that you were a racist in 75, but today she is not a racist, because apparently things have progressed so far, except for the fact that if you look at the actual integration statistics in America's public schools, they look about the same as they did 35 years ago.

00:30:56.000 So what she's saying right now makes no sense.

00:30:59.000 I mean, it makes no sense, but it is cynical.

00:31:01.000 And that's the point.

00:31:02.000 She's a deeply cynical politician.

00:31:04.000 Her attacks on Biden are really cynical, but they're going to work because the media refused to drill down on this.

00:31:09.000 They refused to drill down and ask her specifically the question that I am currently asking.

00:31:13.000 If you say things have radically changed since the 1970s, explain how, based on the integration statistics, the de facto integration statistics in America's public schools, explain.

00:31:23.000 And then explain why federally mandated forced busing is bad policy today, but it wasn't bad policy in 1978.

00:31:30.000 Explain.

00:31:31.000 Nobody will ask her that question, and if they do, 10 points to them.

00:31:34.000 I will be shocked.

00:31:36.000 More of this in just one second.

00:31:37.000 We'll get to more of Kamala Harris' pandering, and then we'll get to the other candidates who are desperately trying to gain attention in what is turning quickly into a two-person race. 1.00

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00:32:57.000 Kamala Harris' latest proposal to drive her to the top of the Democratic primaries. 0.96

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00:34:02.000 So the new democratic plan from Kamala Harris to win her the primaries is a giveaway.

00:34:15.000 So we basically have a giveaway competition.

00:34:18.000 It's a used car salesman competition in the Democratic Party.

00:34:21.000 The whole thing's a lemon, but they're going to sell it to you at a low, low price.

00:34:25.000 There's a great old politically incorrect movie With Kurt Russell called used cars about a battle between two used car salesmen and their various lots.

00:34:35.000 And that's what the Democratic Party has become.

00:34:37.000 They're going to blow the bleep out of high prices.

00:34:40.000 This is what they have become.

00:34:41.000 And so Kamala Harris is going to sell, sell, sell. 1.00

00:34:44.000 You got Bernie Sanders selling you free college tuition and relieving your student debt.

00:34:49.000 You have Elizabeth Warren declaring that everything will be free.

00:34:51.000 And now you have Kamala Harris, who's specifically making a tailored pitch directly for black folks, saying that she wants to spend $100 billion to increase minority homeownership. 0.98

00:35:01.000 She said, we must right the wrong after generations of discrimination give black families a real shot at homeownership.

00:35:07.000 Historically, one of the most powerful drivers of wealth in our country.

00:35:11.000 Her plan calls for $100 billion in housing and urban development grants to provide homeowners or homebuyers who rent or live in historically redlining communities where minority home and business owners were largely blocked from accessing capital for investment up to a $25,000 down payment in assistance and closing costs.

00:35:29.000 Here is the problem.

00:35:31.000 Back in the late 1990s, there was something that we tried.

00:35:34.000 It was a program in which the federal government decided that it would help sponsor what we called subprime mortgages.

00:35:40.000 These were mortgages that went to people who did not have a borrowing history, a credit history, that would allow them to get a loan.

00:35:46.000 And we made it very easy for those folks to get federally subsidized loans because we felt that we were trying to right the wrongs of redlining.

00:35:52.000 There's only one problem with this.

00:35:54.000 It turns out that you still have to pay the mortgage on the home.

00:35:57.000 So if you give somebody a loan at a variable interest rate, and over time the person is unable to pay the loan, They couldn't get the loan, supposedly because of redlining, but then they got the loan and then they defaulted.

00:36:09.000 Over time, as more and more of those homes defaulted, it tended to provide a drag on the American real estate market.

00:36:16.000 And all those loans were collateralized because everybody assumed that they were going to be picked up by the federal government in the end anyway.

00:36:21.000 And they were sliced and diced.

00:36:23.000 They were created into derivative products.

00:36:25.000 They were sold throughout the market.

00:36:26.000 And then in 2000, 2008, you may recall, there was this thing that happened where the entire world economy crashed.

00:36:32.000 It was really bad.

00:36:32.000 I was there.

00:36:34.000 You were probably there too.

00:36:35.000 A lot of that was driven by terrible American housing policy that was driven toward increasing levels of minority home ownership. 0.99

00:36:41.000 Now, listen, I want everyone to be able to buy a home.

00:36:44.000 I want everyone to be able to afford to buy a home.

00:36:47.000 I own my own home.

00:36:47.000 I think it is wonderful to own your own home.

00:36:49.000 I do think that part of the American dream is being able to work hard enough to afford to own your own home.

00:36:54.000 You also have to be able to pay off the loans.

00:36:56.000 If the idea is that what is standing between home ownership and minority communities today is redlining, well, then you'd have federal lawsuits on your hands, wouldn't you?

00:37:05.000 I mean, that's illegal.

00:37:06.000 You can't do it.

00:37:07.000 So, what exactly is Kamala Harris suggesting? 0.53

00:37:09.000 Is she suggesting that redlining is still keeping black people from getting loans?

00:37:13.000 If that's the case, then she should provide the proof.

00:37:15.000 If that's not the case, then she should explain how the American taxpayer ought to be on the hook for a bunch of loans, many of which will probably go belly up, because a $25,000 down payment in assistance and closing costs is not going to cover a home loan.

00:37:28.000 In most parts of the United States, that is not going to cover the difference between somebody making their loan and not making their loan.

00:37:35.000 So she's proposing a cynical bill that is, again, going to put the onus on the back of the American taxpayer for loans that are not going to be paid off.

00:37:43.000 Those loans will go belly up, and then the American taxpayer will have to foot the cost.

00:37:46.000 Again, we know this because it just happened like five minutes ago.

00:37:50.000 So we're going to go right back to that wall.

00:37:52.000 But again, this is part of Kamala Harris's plan to steal away black support from Joe Biden in the Democratic primaries. 1.00

00:37:57.000 OK, now there are a couple of other candidates who are still in this race.

00:38:01.000 Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren are still in this race.

00:38:04.000 According to the RealClearPolitics polling average, Harris has moved slightly ahead of Sanders.

00:38:09.000 Warren is slightly behind Sanders.

00:38:10.000 But basically, they are all at parity.

00:38:12.000 And as I suggested, the polls have them at really weird variable leads.

00:38:16.000 So according to the Economist poll, Elizabeth Warren is currently in second, just four points behind Joe Biden.

00:38:21.000 According to ABC News, Bernie Sanders is in second, about 11 points behind Joe Biden.

00:38:26.000 According to Quinnipiac, it is Kamala Harris who is in second, about two points behind Joe Biden.

00:38:32.000 So it's all over the place, but it's pretty obvious that the second tier of candidates is Harris and Sanders and Warren.

00:38:38.000 So Elizabeth Warren is trying to do the same thing. 1.00

00:38:40.000 Elizabeth Warren is trying to carve into Joe Biden's black base of support. 0.99

00:38:44.000 She's going to have way less success because she can't play the race card in the same way that Kamala Harris is playing the race card against Joe Biden. 1.00

00:38:50.000 I have a housing plan to build 3.2 million new housing units in this country and to address the generational impact of redlining that our government used to discriminate against black citizens.

00:39:08.000 I have a plan to deal with the maternal health crisis in this country.

00:39:15.000 That black women are dying at three and four times the rate of white women.

00:39:20.000 It's time for some accountability in this system.

00:39:24.000 Okay, so Elizabeth Warren is not going to win the nomination. 0.63

00:39:26.000 Okay, she's just not going to.

00:39:28.000 She does not have the appeal to black voters that Kamala Harris does, and it's going to be a serious problem for Elizabeth Warren. 1.00

00:39:36.000 It doesn't have the same pitch.

00:39:37.000 She can't do the pandering, lying routine that Kamala Harris did. 1.00

00:39:40.000 She can't say, I'm in the line of various black heroes, Rosa Parks and Maya Angelou.

00:39:45.000 She can't do that.

00:39:46.000 So instead it's, I have a plan.

00:39:47.000 Here's a bunch of stuff I'm going to give you.

00:39:49.000 Fail.

00:39:50.000 Fail.

00:39:50.000 And then there is Bernie Sanders and Sanders at least knows where he stands.

00:39:53.000 Bernie Sanders isn't trying to make a pitch for black voters basically at all.

00:39:57.000 Bernie Sanders is just going to be a socialist as he wants to be and then hope that he has enough white support to outpace Bernie Sanders and Kamala Harris.

00:40:05.000 He basically hopes that they fight for black support and that he kind of soars over the top with his solid base of white support. 0.56

00:40:13.000 He is fighting Elizabeth Warren for that base right now.

00:40:15.000 Here's Bernie Sanders explaining that every teacher should earn at least $60,000 per year.

00:40:20.000 Let's talk about it.

00:40:21.000 Go, Bernie.

00:40:23.000 Every teacher in America should earn at least $60,000 a year.

00:40:29.000 Okay, so I have a question.

00:40:31.000 Why $60,000?

00:40:31.000 Why not $600,000?

00:40:32.000 Aren't teachers the greatest among us?

00:40:35.000 Don't teachers deserve more than that?

00:40:36.000 Why $60,000 a year?

00:40:39.000 Now, because we can't afford it, right?

00:40:40.000 I mean, that's the idea.

00:40:41.000 We can't afford it.

00:40:42.000 But what makes you think that we can afford $60,000 a year for a teacher?

00:40:45.000 Wouldn't the market decide what exactly that bears?

00:40:48.000 The truth is that if we didn't have teachers unions in America's public schools that were creating terrible contracts for students in school districts, I'm sure there would be teachers paid $100,000 a year or $150,000 a year.

00:40:58.000 In other words, performance would decide how you get paid in the public schools as opposed to tenure.

00:41:06.000 You wouldn't be the oldest teacher at the school and therefore you get paid the most.

00:41:10.000 You wouldn't be at the best school and therefore get paid the most.

00:41:13.000 You'd presumably be at some of the worst schools and get paid more because it's a harder job.

00:41:17.000 Wouldn't that be the way to do it?

00:41:19.000 But I do love it when socialists like Bernie Sanders simply throw out prices as though he knows what the hell he's talking about.

00:41:25.000 One of the great sort of vanities of the socialist project is saying that the supply-demand-profit system is a bad way of determining value, and then using the values created by that profit system, by that supply-and-demand system, and using it as the basis for your demands.

00:41:41.000 So what I mean is, how does Bernie Sanders know what the price of a teacher should be?

00:41:44.000 If I just said to you, in a vacuum, what's the price of a teacher?

00:41:47.000 You can't look at any of the prices, you don't know what anyone has paid.

00:41:49.000 You'd have no idea, right?

00:41:51.000 It's like me saying, what's the price of a bleh?

00:41:53.000 You wouldn't know, because there's no such thing as a bleh.

00:41:56.000 Except for everything that AOC says.

00:41:58.000 But if I name a product, That does not exist.

00:42:01.000 You can't tell me the price of it because you have no basis for comparison.

00:42:04.000 When Bernie Sanders says a teacher should be paid $60,000 a year, the only reason he knows to say that is because teachers are getting paid somewhere in the neighborhood of $60,000 a year.

00:42:13.000 $50,000 or $45,000.

00:42:14.000 The point is, that is part of a supply and demand system he completely rejects and a profit-based system he completely rejects.

00:42:20.000 So he's just pulling numbers out of thin air and then saying it's not fair if the market doesn't meet his bizarre notion of what people should be paid, even though he's never run a taco stand.

00:42:28.000 Bernie Sanders.

00:42:29.000 So, but at least he's got his pitch.

00:42:31.000 So right now, as Joe Biden fades, it's pretty obvious that his support is bleeding over to Kamala Harris, not to Elizabeth Warren, and not really to Bernie Sanders.

00:42:40.000 So you have to put Kamala Harris as the odds-on favorite to win the nomination.

00:42:44.000 As cynical and terrible as that is right now.

00:42:47.000 As cynical, and it is really, really cynical.

00:42:50.000 Incredibly cynical.

00:42:51.000 And meanwhile, in the Republican Party, there was a bit of chaos over the last week while I was away.

00:42:55.000 Justin Amash of the, Justin Amash, I think it is pronounced?

00:42:59.000 The Amash, thank you, the libertarian slash Republican congressperson.

00:43:04.000 He's not a Republican anymore.

00:43:05.000 Congressperson from Michigan.

00:43:06.000 We've had him on the radio show before.

00:43:08.000 I actually like a lot of what Justin Amash has to say, but he said he is leaving the Republican Party.

00:43:12.000 Now, supposedly, originally he was leaving because he was just so disgusted with their treatment of President Trump.

00:43:18.000 He did say over the weekend he would leave the GOP even if Trump weren't president, which is a bizarre statement for somebody who was elected as a Republican.

00:43:26.000 Here is Amash.

00:43:27.000 Do you think you would be leaving the Republican Party if Donald Trump were not president?

00:43:32.000 Yes, I do.

00:43:33.000 And I've had concerns with the Republican Party for several years.

00:43:36.000 I've had concerns with the party system generally.

00:43:39.000 When I first got to Congress, I thought I could change things from the inside.

00:43:43.000 But as I've spent time there, I've seen that not only me, I don't think there's anyone in there who can change the system.

00:43:51.000 It's pretty rigid.

00:43:53.000 It's top-down.

00:43:55.000 It comes down from leadership to the bottom.

00:43:58.000 And over the years it's gotten more rigid.

00:44:01.000 Now what's hilarious about this is that Amash, leaving the Republican Party and declaring himself independent, Donald Trump is mad about this.

00:44:07.000 He's tweeting about how bad this is.

00:44:09.000 If Amash does leave and he's left, if he decides to run for the Libertarian Party nomination, which is quite likely at this point, if he runs for the Libertarian Party nomination and runs as a Libertarian, the vast majority of votes he's going to draw are not going to be drawn from the Republican Party.

00:44:23.000 Trump's level of popularity among Republicans is very high.

00:44:26.000 In fact, Amash could be one of the best things that happens to Donald Trump in the 2020 election because Trump has the luck of the devil.

00:44:33.000 And the fact is that Amash could draw more votes from Democrats in Michigan than he draws from Republicans in Michigan, leading President Trump to win Michigan again.

00:44:40.000 So maybe this all ends up as a benefit for President Trump in the end anyway.

00:44:44.000 Okay, time for some things I like and then some things that I hate.

00:44:47.000 So, things that I like.

00:44:48.000 Over the holiday weekend, I got to read Rich Cohn's new book.

00:44:52.000 Rich Cohn is one of my favorite authors.

00:44:53.000 He's written about everything from the 1985 Chicago Bears to Jewish gangsters.

00:45:00.000 He has a book called "Tough Jews" about Jewish gangsters from New York.

00:45:04.000 Really terrific writer.

00:45:05.000 He has a new piece of pop history called "The Last Pirate of New York: A Ghost Ship, a Killer, and the Birth of a Gangster Nation." All about the last pirate hanged in the United States.

00:45:13.000 And the book is really fun.

00:45:15.000 It's a quick, breezy read.

00:45:17.000 Rich is a terrific writer, so go check it out.

00:45:18.000 The Last Pirate of New York, A Ghost Ship, A Killer, and The Birth of a Gangster Nation. 0.83

00:45:22.000 I recommended it to Politico as well.

00:45:25.000 Rich is incredibly talented, and I really enjoy his stuff, so that is definitely worth the summer read.

00:45:30.000 Okay, now it is time for a bevy of things that I hate because I was away for a week, guys.

00:45:37.000 Oh man, so many things that I hate today.

00:45:40.000 Yeah, you're waiting for the hate. 1.00

00:45:42.000 Okay, let's begin with this piece of idiocy. 1.00

00:45:42.000 And so here it comes. 1.00

00:45:45.000 So, there's an article in the New York Times called, Do Americans Need Air Conditioning?

00:45:49.000 Yes.

00:45:50.000 Yes, Americans need air conditioning. 0.92

00:45:52.000 It is one of the more irritating aspects of modern life that all the benefits of modern life that we enjoy, we now get to sit back and say, you know what?

00:46:00.000 Maybe we don't need those benefits anymore.

00:46:02.000 Let's go back to the old ways when we didn't have air conditioning.

00:46:06.000 And tens of thousands of people died of heat stroke every year.

00:46:10.000 I remember a few years back, it's like 2005, I believe there's a heat wave in France.

00:46:14.000 And there wasn't enough air conditioning in France.

00:46:17.000 And 10,000 elderly people died in France because of the heat wave in France. 0.89

00:46:19.000 It turns out that the Earth is trying to kill you.

00:46:22.000 And one of the ways that you defend yourself from the Earth is to build a shelter.

00:46:25.000 And within that shelter, to have some climate control.

00:46:27.000 In fact, one of the leading causes of the rise in productivity in the American South in the 20th century was the advent of air conditioning.

00:46:34.000 Because it turned out it was very difficult to work in hot, humid, sticky conditions.

00:46:39.000 And once air conditioning became prevalent in the American South, it allowed people to work for longer hours.

00:46:44.000 It allowed people to work at their desks without falling apart.

00:46:47.000 Climate has an impact on human behavior.

00:46:50.000 There's a woman named Taylor Lawrence who tweeted out over the weekend that air conditioning was sexist and bigoted because men keep the thermostat too low and that she gets sick every time the AC is on. 1.00

00:47:02.000 Okay, first of all, a couple things.

00:47:03.000 One, air conditioning does not make you sick.

00:47:06.000 Climate does not make you sick.

00:47:08.000 Germs make you sick.

00:47:10.000 You don't get sick if it's too cold outside.

00:47:11.000 You don't get sick if it's too warm outside.

00:47:13.000 That's just people misattributing the nature of illness.

00:47:17.000 Also, air conditioning has bettered the lives of hundreds of millions of people and saved tens of thousands of lives.

00:47:21.000 Nonetheless, the New York Times, from its air-conditioned offices in New York, has a piece called Do Americans Need Air Conditioning?

00:47:28.000 Summer's great indoor temperature debate rages on.

00:47:30.000 "Modernity was born 116 years, 11 months, "two weeks and two days ago, at a printing plant "in the East Williamsburg section of Brooklyn, "when a junior engineer named Willis Carrier "devised a contraption that blew air "over water-filled pipes to dry out the humidity "that was gumming up the pages "of a humor magazine called Judge.

00:47:47.000 "And in that moment, well, within a few decades, "entire industries and geographies were transformed, New technologies made possible, including, terribly, the internet.

00:47:55.000 Without cooling, there would be no server farms.

00:47:57.000 Nearly 90% of American households now have some form of air conditioning, more than any other country in the world except Japan.

00:48:03.000 But that will change as global warming alters more temperate zones, and swelling populations and rising incomes in hot zones mean the folks there will clamor for A.C.

00:48:10.000 too.

00:48:11.000 On an overheated planet, air conditioning becomes more and more desirable, solving in the short term the problem it helped create.

00:48:17.000 It is another paradox that even as architects and engineers are making ever more efficient buildings to meet energy standards set by cities like New York, where new law says that buildings over 25,000 square feet must reduce their carbon emissions by 80% by 2050, we are still freezing in our offices and fighting with our partners over whether to turn on the Friedrich.

00:48:35.000 My God.

00:48:36.000 I mean, the amount of fighting and brutality.

00:48:38.000 OK, quick rule. 0.69

00:48:40.000 I know there are a lot of women who complain that men keep the office temperature too low. 1.00

00:48:43.000 I have this problem in my home.

00:48:44.000 At night, my wife wants the temperature in the house higher. 1.00

00:48:47.000 And I want the temperature in the house lower.

00:48:49.000 There's a difference.

00:48:50.000 The difference is that I cannot strip down to my t-shirt at the office if I am in an office where people wear suits.

00:48:56.000 You can put on a sweater.

00:48:58.000 So if we're going to choose between too hot and too cold, too cold is the proper solution.

00:49:02.000 That is not sexist.

00:49:03.000 That is basic logic unless you want men stripping down to their underoos, which presumably you don't want in an office environment.

00:49:11.000 Parts of Germany and France were recently steaming through record temperatures.

00:49:14.000 During last week's heat wave, police officers in Paris used tear gas on climate change protesters, while I was southbound on Amtrak's Northeast Regional, shivering in the quiet car, rugged up in a scarf, jacket, long pants, and boots.

00:49:26.000 So were my fellow travelers like Solange Singer, a 41-year-old fashion stylist muffled in similar gear with a red wool scarf laid out in her lap like a blanket.

00:49:34.000 The conductor seemed puzzled when I asked him what temperature the thermostat was set to.

00:49:38.000 He said it's either off or on.

00:49:38.000 There's no thermostat.

00:49:40.000 Fire, as the saying goes, made us human.

00:49:42.000 Does air conditioning make us less so?

00:49:45.000 Well, it makes you less dead.

00:49:47.000 It makes you less dead.

00:49:49.000 It turns out lack of air conditioning kills people.

00:49:52.000 But people are very upset about this now.

00:49:53.000 So the New York Times has the luxury.

00:49:56.000 Environmentalism and worries about the thermostat.

00:49:58.000 These are luxuries of a first world nation.

00:50:00.000 Mark Feeney, a culture critic at the Boston Globe, which is a hell of a hell of a career, He says, think about that term, air conditioning.

00:50:06.000 Do you want to condition your air?

00:50:08.000 Yes.

00:50:09.000 Yes, I do.

00:50:10.000 Because you know what I don't want to do?

00:50:12.000 I live in SoCal.

00:50:14.000 I remember a few years back, the transformer blew on the street where my parents lived.

00:50:17.000 It was on a Saturday, so we couldn't even get in the car.

00:50:20.000 It was a Shabbat. 0.71

00:50:21.000 We couldn't even get in the car and drive to a place that was air conditioned.

00:50:24.000 It was 105 degrees in the valley that day.

00:50:27.000 It was hellish.

00:50:28.000 It was hellish.

00:50:29.000 You know what would have been great?

00:50:30.000 A functional air conditioner.

00:50:33.000 Do you want to condition your air?

00:50:35.000 Yes, you want to condition your air.

00:50:36.000 God, these people.

00:50:38.000 Your skin, maybe, or your hair.

00:50:39.000 I'm a vegetarian, but I didn't become one for any specific reason.

00:50:42.000 It just happened.

00:50:43.000 But there are all sorts of good ex post facto reasons for not eating meat.

00:50:48.000 Same with AC.

00:50:48.000 If you modify your actions, it's good for the planet.

00:50:50.000 It's good for everyone.

00:50:52.000 Also, I'm a lapsed Catholic, and I'm Irish, so I need a certain degree of self-imposed suffering in my life, and I guess this qualified.

00:50:57.000 Well, that's really what is going on here.

00:50:59.000 Truthfully, that's a throwaway line.

00:51:00.000 It's a joke, I understand.

00:51:01.000 It is also what's going on here.

00:51:02.000 There's a new secular religion of environmentalism where you are supposed to sacrifice to the great god of the climate by not having air conditioning in your home.

00:51:09.000 Good luck with that.

00:51:10.000 You want it?

00:51:11.000 It's all yours.

00:51:12.000 Because, guess what?

00:51:14.000 No one else is going along with you.

00:51:17.000 No one else is going along with you that we should get rid of air conditioning. 1.00

00:51:21.000 This is all so stupid. 1.00

00:51:23.000 And so arrogant. 1.00

00:51:25.000 But I guess we're going to make everything that is non-controversial something controversial.

00:51:29.000 This is what happened while I was gone.

00:51:31.000 We decided that we were going to turn the Betsy Ross flag controversial.

00:51:33.000 For no reason.

00:51:35.000 Betsy Ross was a Quaker abolitionist. 0.98

00:51:37.000 She was an anti-slavery activist.

00:51:38.000 But apparently the Betsy Ross flag became deeply controversial because a failed NFL quarterback and a person whose record on politics is worse than his record in the National Football League That guy says he has a problem with the Betsy Ross flag.

00:51:53.000 And so it becomes a national controversy.

00:51:55.000 So now we're going to have discussions over air conditioning.

00:51:57.000 All I can say is, lady, you go first. 0.99

00:52:00.000 If you want to get rid of air conditioning, you can swelter it out in 85 degree humidity in New York City during the summer.

00:52:05.000 Enjoy yourself.

00:52:06.000 That is all you.

00:52:07.000 But we're going to make everything controversial.

00:52:10.000 There's a problem in our country. 0.98

00:52:11.000 And the problem is that things are so good and we are so angry that we are now looking at stupid things to be angry about. 0.98

00:52:16.000 Jonah Goldberg had a column over the weekend Well, he basically said America has autoimmune disease, that there are not enough pathogens in the body politic for us to attack. 0.92

00:52:26.000 So we are creating pathogens out of healthy organs just to attack.

00:52:31.000 So we're going to attack air conditioning or we're going to attack the Betsy Ross flag. 0.67

00:52:36.000 And that was what happened while I was gone.

00:52:38.000 Now, listen, Nike can do whatever it wants.

00:52:39.000 It's a private corporation. 0.98

00:52:41.000 With that said, It's really dumb in the long term. 0.98

00:52:44.000 Now it's smart short term. 0.64

00:52:46.000 Nike actually gained stock share share price after they made this decision about getting rid of the sneakers with the Betsy Ross flag.

00:52:53.000 And there's a reason for that.

00:52:54.000 The reason for that.

00:52:56.000 Is because by statistics, black folks in America are more sympathetic to Colin Kaepernick's wild and extreme political claims.

00:53:04.000 And they also happen to buy more shoes.

00:53:05.000 The stock prices went up for Nike.

00:53:07.000 This has been true since they signed Colin Kaepernick.

00:53:09.000 That's why Nike is doing what they're doing.

00:53:11.000 If you think that they sort of mistaked their way into this, that is not true.

00:53:14.000 They did this on purpose.

00:53:15.000 They decided to get woke because they wanted to make money.

00:53:18.000 This is why corporations do this sort of stuff.

00:53:21.000 During Gay Pride Month, they decide they're all going to Virtue Signal because they understand that the people who are attracted to their brand by the Virtue Signaling outnumber the people who are alienated from their brand by the Virtue Signaling, and they figure that there's no other place to go.

00:53:32.000 What, are you going to stop going to Target because they have a couple of displays for Gay Pride Month or something?

00:53:37.000 But if you're gay, or if you're very sympathetic to Gay Pride Month, then you're more likely to feel good about shopping at Target because they're Virtue Signaling to you.

00:53:44.000 Nike does the same thing.

00:53:46.000 But the whole goal here is to make things controversial that are really uncontroversial.

00:53:52.000 This is the routine.

00:53:52.000 And speaking of that, they decided over the weekend that they were going to make controversial having like a tank at a July 4th parade in Washington, D.C.

00:54:01.000 A couple of things.

00:54:03.000 Tanks are kind of cool.

00:54:04.000 I understand you hate Trump and everything, but tanks are pretty cool.

00:54:07.000 And we have Blue Angels flyovers all the time at July 4th events.

00:54:12.000 You know, it's more powerful than a tank in today's day and age.

00:54:15.000 A self-bomber.

00:54:17.000 There are lots of things more powerful than a tank if you had to face the two up against each other and you were just showing powerful military weaponry.

00:54:23.000 We show those military weapons on a fairly routine basis.

00:54:26.000 We weren't marching nuclear missiles through the streets of Washington, D.C.

00:54:30.000 Nonetheless, we decided to make this controversial, too.

00:54:32.000 Here's a CNN anchor worrying that Trump's July 4th speech was too militaristic because he had the temerity to talk about how great the American military was.

00:54:40.000 It sounded very, very different from the typical Trump rallies that are often broadcast on cable news.

00:54:48.000 But that showcase of the military hardware that we're showing pictures of here, some would say it overemphasized America's military might.

00:54:56.000 And it underplayed the American values that have been used to justify the use of force.

00:55:02.000 And so that is something that the president will be criticized on.

00:55:06.000 Oh, is that something he will be criticized on, or is that something you're criticizing him on right now, like this very instant?

00:55:11.000 Everything becomes controversial in a nation where a bunch of stuff shouldn't be controversial.

00:55:16.000 Another example, apparently in the week that I was gone, people decided that, apparently there's a vast swath of Americans who are deeply, profoundly upset that Disney has cast a black actress to play Ariel in the new live-action Disney remake of The Little Mermaid.

00:55:30.000 First of all, this is better evidence to me, this whole story is better evidence to me that Disney has no new ideas, that they keep remaking all of their old movies scene for scene.

00:55:39.000 That's the only evidence I see.

00:55:43.000 Everyone in the media decided it was a massive issue that Americans were out in the streets protesting because Ariel, who is white and red-headed in the animated film, will now be black and red-headed in the non-animated film.

00:55:56.000 There was not a single blue checkmark person on Twitter who commented about this, because no one actually cares about this stuff.

00:56:02.000 No one seriously cares about this stuff.

00:56:04.000 There may be a species of fan person, fangirls really, because that's really who likes The Little Mermaid, who want The Little Mermaid to look like she looked in the animated flick, which is not racist, by the way.

00:56:15.000 That is just, I grew up with a particular image of The Little Mermaid, and all the other animated films reflect that image, right?

00:56:20.000 The new Mulan live-action film has a person who looks like Mulan in the animated film, It's not racist to say, what if the person in the live film looked like the person in the animated film, no matter how they look, right?

00:56:30.000 They're not going to cast Tiana as white, presumably, when they remake The Princess and the Frog.

00:56:35.000 But, apparently, there was like, there were two people on Twitter who were like, we cannot have a black Ariel.

00:56:42.000 No, no, like the number of people.

00:56:44.000 This is what we call nut picking.

00:56:46.000 OK, nut picking is what you do online when you try to find somebody with a crazy opinion specifically so that you can make them the sort of advocate for the entire other side of the aisle.

00:56:57.000 No one cared.

00:56:58.000 It trended on Twitter anyway.

00:57:00.000 It trended on Twitter anyway.

00:57:01.000 So we're gonna make everything controversial.

00:57:03.000 Everything is gonna be controversial because, what, we're bored?

00:57:06.000 Because we're too prosperous?

00:57:07.000 Air conditioning is controversial?

00:57:09.000 The Betsy Ross flag which flew at Barack Obama's inauguration is apparently now controversial and symbolizes slavery even though it was Union troops fighting slavery who carried that into battle?

00:57:18.000 That's the...

00:57:20.000 That's controversial.

00:57:21.000 Black Ariel is controversial.

00:57:23.000 Everything is controversial.

00:57:25.000 Tanks at parades for July 4th.

00:57:27.000 That's like everything is controversial now.

00:57:29.000 How about this?

00:57:30.000 How about we all calm down?

00:57:32.000 How about we all recognize that half the stuff we think is controversial, no one cares about?

00:57:36.000 I don't think that's going to happen, though.

00:57:38.000 And that's why I think Joe Biden is in trouble in this race, because Joe Biden It's running a back to normalcy campaign in a time where his party does not want to return to normalcy and where it's unclear that the American people want to return to normalcy.

00:57:50.000 For all the talk about the American people being deeply dispossessed by Donald Trump's oddities, The truth is that the American people might just be pissed off for a variety of reasons, including, I think, a sort of spiritual emptying out of all the things that used to unify us.

00:58:07.000 And so now we're just creating random controversies to attack each other over.

00:58:11.000 That was the story of the last week as I see it from afar anyway.

00:58:15.000 All right.

00:58:15.000 So we'll be back here later today with two additional hours of content.

00:58:19.000 Plus, we'll be back here tomorrow.

00:58:20.000 Welcome back.

00:58:21.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

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00:58:46.000 Production assistant, Nick Sheehan.

00:58:47.000 The Ben Shapiro Show is a Daily Wire production.

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00:58:52.000 Hey everyone, it's Andrew Klavan, host of The Andrew Klavan Show.

00:58:55.000 You know, that Donald Trump, he may not be the nicest guy in the world, but through his belligerence and his indifference to the brutal slanders of the Democrat media complex, he has made a place for his followers, the deplorables, to reinvent American patriotism.

00:59:10.000 It's a beautiful thing to see, and the left's reaction is as ugly as you can imagine.

00:59:15.000 We'll talk about it on The Andrew Klavan Show.

The Ben Shapiro Show - July 08, 2019

And We’re Back! | Ep. 812

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