The Ben Shapiro Show - Apparently, I’m Very Scary | Ep. 1578

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00:02:36.000 Well, once again, apparently I'm a very scary person.

00:02:39.000 I'm a very scary person, it turns out, because a lot of people watch shows like this one.

00:02:43.000 People watch this show, people listen to this show, people watch clips of me saying things on the YouTubes.

00:02:48.000 And according to the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, which is essentially the NPR of Canada, this is a state-funded enterprise, a left-wing state-funded enterprise in Canada, apparently All of my speech should probably be banned, because after all, people might watch my stuff, and then there's an off chance that they might then see even worse stuff, and then that might lead them down a rabbit hole to the super, super bad stuff.

00:03:10.000 There's an entire article on the CBC website titled, It's a Slippery Slope, How Young Men Fall into Online Radicalization.

00:03:17.000 By the way, it is fun to watch how the left treats slippery slope arguments when they're coming from their side.

00:03:21.000 When the right says, you know, if you go along with civil unions, eventually it'll be gay marriage. 0.90

00:03:25.000 And if you go along with gay marriage, eventually it'll be attempting to force people to accept same-sex marriage in religious schools. 0.93

00:03:31.000 Then that's a slippery slope we cannot abide.

00:03:33.000 Even if the slippery slope completely materializes.

00:03:35.000 But apparently, it is fully okay to make a slippery slope argument when I say something that is not extreme.

00:03:42.000 It's possible to make the argument that somebody might view that and then see something that's a little more extreme, a little more extreme than that, and eventually they end up being a Nazi. 0.65

00:03:48.000 This is the case the CBC is about to make.

00:03:50.000 Quote.

00:03:52.000 Reed Brown remembers the first time he got sucked in by the algorithm.

00:03:55.000 He was just 13, watching videos after school when YouTube started pushing him to controversial content.

00:04:00.000 As time went on, the videos became increasingly extreme, says Brown, now 21.

00:04:04.000 It started out pretty benign, he recalls.

00:04:05.000 You're watching something about teen fashion, and then the next thing you know, the algorithm would push you to a Ben Shapiro video.

00:04:10.000 Oh, no.

00:04:14.000 Though Shapiro describes himself as a conservative political commentator, his views are controversial.

00:04:19.000 Is there another way to describe me other than as a political commentator who is conservative?

00:04:24.000 Is there another description that is more apt?

00:04:26.000 What they want to say here, of course, is that I'm alt-right.

00:04:28.000 The problem is that people in the media, including the economists, have attempted to call me alt-right before, and we have then threatened them with legal action because the alt-right hates my guts, and I have ripped the alt-right routinely doing full speeches about the alt-right, and so they've had to retract such statements.

00:04:41.000 So instead, they say, well, I call myself conservative, but you know what they would call me.

00:04:44.000 They would call me an extremist, which goes to show you that if they call me an extremist, you're definitely an extremist as well.

00:04:50.000 Shapiro describes himself as a conservative political commentator.

00:04:53.000 His views are controversial.

00:04:55.000 Some are outright discriminatory.

00:04:57.000 Wow, I didn't know that.

00:04:58.000 What are my discriminatory views?

00:05:00.000 It seems to me that I've always been of the viewpoint that, for example, people should be treated as individuals, not based on their race or their religion.

00:05:07.000 I thought that that was, like, basic to my worldview, actually.

00:05:10.000 But it turns out, according to the CBC, that some of my views are outright discriminatory. 0.97

00:05:15.000 He suggested, for example, that transgender people suffer from a mental disorder. 0.55

00:05:20.000 Oh, you mean me and the American Psychiatric Association? 0.91

00:05:23.000 Like, in the Diagnostic Statistical Manual 5, it literally labels gender dysphoria a mental disorder.

00:05:31.000 Because it used to be called gender identity disorder.

00:05:34.000 You mean that?

00:05:35.000 So it's now discriminatory to say that people who have gender dysphoria, in fact, suffer from a mental disorder.

00:05:42.000 Which they clearly do, since it is labeled as such in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual, as politicized and left-wing as the DSM is.

00:05:50.000 But apparently that's discriminatory, guys.

00:05:51.000 We have to pretend that men who say they are women are actually suffering from some sort of mind-body misalignment.

00:05:57.000 And the problem is with their bodies. 0.98

00:05:58.000 So if we just chop off some body parts, then magically they're a woman because their brain is the brain of a woman. 1.00

00:06:02.000 Now, you might have to have a mental disorder to believe that, but that's actually not science. 0.94

00:06:06.000 But if I say that, it's apparently discriminatory.

00:06:09.000 Says the CBC, Shapiro has combined 9.4 million subscribers and followers on YouTube and Twitter, many of whom are young people.

00:06:16.000 No, not the youths!

00:06:18.000 Not the youths!

00:06:20.000 Like Brown was when he got pushed in Shapiro's direction.

00:06:23.000 Well, Shapiro is not affiliated with any hate group.

00:06:26.000 Experts, ah, the ever-present experts in media, gender studies, and radicalization of young men say the commentator's content is prevalent in online extremist communities.

00:06:36.000 They're saying, openly, there's no evidence that I'm affiliated with a hate group because I'm not affiliated with a hate group, and they have no evidence of it because it doesn't exist, but they do have experts.

00:06:47.000 And who are these experts?

00:06:49.000 Who are these massively influential, important, and very expert experts?

00:06:52.000 Who are they?

00:06:53.000 They're experts in media!

00:06:55.000 Wow!

00:06:56.000 How do you even get that hat?

00:06:57.000 How do you earn the expert in media hat?

00:07:00.000 Do you go to like a journalism program?

00:07:01.000 A journalism-ing program at a top university?

00:07:04.000 Taught by other professors?

00:07:06.000 Who have failed out of the media because they weren't able to hold a job?

00:07:09.000 And now they're academics and all they do all day long is talk about the media.

00:07:13.000 But they don't actually have an audience like we do here on this show.

00:07:15.000 They just sit in an Ivy League boardroom and discuss their expertise in front of students.

00:07:23.000 Is that what they do?

00:07:25.000 They're experts, by the way, in gender studies.

00:07:28.000 Well, experts in gender studies. 0.99

00:07:30.000 That must mean that they believe a bunch of crap that isn't true. 0.97

00:07:33.000 But then they get to churn out little versions of themselves who then become the professors. 0.90

00:07:37.000 Because you can't actually get a real job.

00:07:39.000 If you major in gender studies, you ain't getting a real job doing anything. 0.90

00:07:41.000 That is not a major that qualifies you for anything except being a professor in gender studies.

00:07:45.000 It is a fully self-perpetuating cycle of uselessness.

00:07:48.000 Also, experts in the radicalization of young men.

00:07:50.000 So, I assume these are people who study, like, you know, Islamic terror, for example. 0.90

00:07:55.000 But no, actually, it just turns out that radicalization of young men just means that people, they don't like what I say.

00:08:00.000 The exposure to controversial and increasingly harmful views.

00:08:03.000 Harmful!

00:08:04.000 This is the keyword for the left.

00:08:05.000 Harmful.

00:08:06.000 As we will see, this is how you criminalize speech.

00:08:09.000 The way that you criminalize speech is you say, speech is harmful because if my feelings are hurt, you have You've harmed me.

00:08:14.000 You've aggressed against me.

00:08:16.000 And thus, you must be shut down. 0.98

00:08:17.000 I mean, it's the equivalent of me, like, hitting you with a baseball bat or something.

00:08:20.000 The exposure to controversial and increasingly harmful views about masculinity, the objectification of women, and the LGBT community has these same experts raising concern about how extremist far-right groups are using TikTok, YouTube, and other social media apps in a drip campaign to slowly radicalize vulnerable teens and young men.

00:08:39.000 Okay, so, I just have a couple of questions about that particular paragraph.

00:08:41.000 They say, exposure to controversial views about masculinity.

00:08:44.000 What are my controversial views about masculinity?

00:08:46.000 What are they?

00:08:48.000 That men exist?

00:08:50.000 I don't think that men should finish high school, get a job, get married, and take care of their kids without abandoning them?

00:09:00.000 Is that the controversial view about masculinity?

00:09:02.000 Is the controversial view about masculinity that men should be responsible husbands and fathers?

00:09:08.000 What's controversial?

00:09:09.000 If that's controversial, it's just because society is insane, not because what I'm saying is controversial.

00:09:13.000 The objectification of women. 1.00

00:09:14.000 That's a new one.

00:09:15.000 I hadn't heard that one before.

00:09:17.000 In case you didn't notice, I wear a funny hat.

00:09:19.000 The hat is called a kippah.

00:09:21.000 That kippah suggests that I'm an Orthodox Jew.

00:09:23.000 I'm trying to make this linkage for the CBC, a state-funded enterprise in Canada.

00:09:27.000 And, um, you know what the Orthodox Jews are not so big on is the objectification of women.

00:09:32.000 We're not super big on that.

00:09:34.000 I've been an outspoken anti-porn advocate since I was like 16 years old.

00:09:38.000 I was an advocate, and still am, for virginity of both sexes until marriage. 0.50

00:09:43.000 So I'm gonna need some evidence on the objectification of women front. 1.00

00:09:47.000 By objectification of women do you mean that I think that there are actual standards of beauty?

00:09:50.000 And that there are many people in popular culture who we have been told are supposed to be seen as beautiful who are not objectively beautiful?

00:09:56.000 Obviously that's true.

00:09:58.000 Obviously it's true.

00:09:59.000 If you polled men on whether Lizzo is beautiful, and I say Lizzo is not by any classical definition a beautiful person, that does not mean that that is objectification of women.

00:10:09.000 That just means that there is a standard called beauty and it has meaning and content. 0.98

00:10:13.000 That's not a particular controversial view unless, again, you're an insane person.

00:10:17.000 But they say that I have increasingly harmful views about LGBT community.

00:10:21.000 Now, I assume that what they mean by this is that I say, you know, as most societies have said for literally all human history, that the foundation of a successful society is man, woman, child.

00:10:33.000 That heterosexual sex within marriage is the morally preferable form of sex in society, that all of human progeneration is rooted in it, that all of societal Stability is founded upon it, and that when you get rid of the standard, that there is, in fact, a moral superiority to heterosexual sex within the confines of marriage. 0.57

00:10:52.000 When you get rid of that, you end up destabilizing both reproduction and society itself.

00:10:57.000 Again, this is basic natural law kind of stuff.

00:11:00.000 Seems to be backed by a fair bit of evolutionary biology as well.

00:11:04.000 This is not saying that the government should regulate the type of sex that people can have in the privacy of their own bedroom.

00:11:09.000 It is to say that pretending that there is no level of moral superiority to your sex life is very, very silly when we apply moral superiority and inferiority scales to literally everything else you do, from the food that you eat to the clothes that you wear.

00:11:22.000 So apparently that's very controversial as well, and that's really bad.

00:11:25.000 The goal of the CBC piece, of course, is to get my content banned on social media.

00:11:31.000 And so what they have to do here is that they can't actually say, what about my views is so terrible.

00:11:35.000 So instead what they do is they say, well, you know, young people watch my stuff and then they increasingly watch other people's stuff.

00:11:41.000 And those other people's stuff is really bad.

00:11:42.000 And then even worse stuff.

00:11:44.000 Now, again, they'll never use this argument about, for example, marijuana and the fact Virtually everyone who does hard drugs originally started with marijuana.

00:11:51.000 That argument was ruled out of bounds long ago, and we have to pretend now, by the way, that marijuana is not addictive.

00:11:56.000 Marijuana is in fact addictive by all available data.

00:11:59.000 We have to pretend all that stuff, but we're not allowed to make that argument with regard to a slippery slope on drugs.

00:12:04.000 We're also not allowed to make the argument with regard to a slippery slope on pornography.

00:12:07.000 If we say that people access porn and a subsection of the people who access that porn are going to access more and more extreme versions of porn, up to and including violent porn, and that that has an effect on people's souls and it makes them less sensitive toward women, you're not supposed to say that either.

00:12:22.000 So again, slippery slope arguments only apply to the things that they want them to apply to, namely politics.

00:12:22.000 That's really bad.

00:12:28.000 According to the CBC, again, I can't get over the fact, if this were like a normal piece in a normal left-wing publication, like Salon or something, like, okay, fine, this is normal.

00:12:36.000 This is a state-funded news report.

00:12:38.000 It is a news report.

00:12:39.000 It is not even a commentary report from the CBC.

00:12:42.000 And as you'll see, this has broader ramifications for where we go as a civilization.

00:12:45.000 Because this piece is really the latest iteration of what Canada is doing, which is an attempt to crack down on free speech, particularly the free speech of people who believe in traditional ideas about marriage, for example.

00:12:56.000 The videos Brown watched as an early teen were often misogynistic, he said, and it started to affect the way he thought and how he interacted with people at school.

00:13:02.000 I remember repeating some sexist attitudes, things about the wage gap.

00:13:07.000 OK, so what have I said about the wage gap?

00:13:07.000 He probably.

00:13:09.000 Let's assume that he watched one of my videos.

00:13:10.000 What did I say about the wage gap?

00:13:11.000 I said the wage gap is a myth that women do not earn less than men if they are equally qualified, if they've had equal amount of time in the workplace, if they're working the same jobs, if they've not taken time off to have kids.

00:13:23.000 That is not sexist.

00:13:25.000 That is statistical fact.

00:13:27.000 Right now, women earn the majority of degrees in the United States in college. 1.00

00:13:32.000 Women constitute the majority of people in law schools. 0.91

00:13:35.000 I believe they now constitute the majority of people in medical schools as well.

00:13:38.000 Right now, men are falling behind in the United States, not women.

00:13:41.000 So apparently, if he said that, and that made him a sexist, right?

00:13:44.000 Especially when I was hanging out with my guy friends, we were repeating all these things we were seeing on the internet.

00:13:47.000 A lot of sexism and misogyny.

00:13:49.000 The sexism and misogyny example, again, was saying that there is no wage gap.

00:13:54.000 Sorry.

00:13:55.000 So the things that apparently are really bad that we have learned from this article so far is if you say men are not women and that women and men are not generally judged by the marketplace on sex, these are the problems.

00:14:06.000 This is what leads you to apparently extremism.

00:14:09.000 That's exactly how online radicalization works.

00:14:11.000 This is Ellen Chloe Bateman of Brown's Experience, a documentary and podcast producer who researches online radicalization among young men and insults subculture. 0.85

00:14:19.000 Bateman describes radicalization as a slippery slope that can begin as algorithms pushing boys to videos that's increasingly harmful.

00:14:26.000 Documentary and podcast producer.

00:14:27.000 This is the experts right here.

00:14:29.000 They said there are experts and now we are being presented with an expert.

00:14:32.000 Then, someone might engage you in a comment thread and tell you to join their Discord group, where the content gets darker and it's edgy.

00:14:37.000 It's entertaining for some young guys before you know it, you've stumbled into extremist subculture.

00:14:42.000 Some young men may also see messages of empowerment for women and girls as an attack on masculinity, says Joanna Schrader, a writer whose work focuses on gender and media representation.

00:14:49.000 Man, the expertise of the people they are citing here at the CBC, just stunning.

00:14:53.000 Stunning stuff.

00:14:54.000 Maybe they see me too stuff.

00:14:56.000 Maybe they see a t-shirt or bumper sticker that says the future is female, she said.

00:14:59.000 There's a lot of encouraging content out there for girls.

00:15:01.000 And if young men aren't given an opportunity to talk through their feelings on this, they may see this as men are irrelevant.

00:15:06.000 Well, I mean, I can't imagine how a boy might read a shirt that says the future is female and think men are irrelevant.

00:15:13.000 Hard to draw that connection, guys.

00:15:16.000 If the future is female, then the future is by necessity not male, is it not? 0.89

00:15:19.000 I mean, I'm sorry that your language seems a little extreme, actually.

00:15:24.000 And I can see why people might draw the opposite conclusion from the one that you are pushing.

00:15:30.000 So how can society give young men a way to work through their feelings in a healthy way?

00:15:33.000 Well, they can go to a liberal group and then they can talk about normal behavior and they can be re-indoctrinated into the precepts of the left.

00:15:42.000 That would be the best.

00:15:45.000 Apparently, there is a group that they are pushing, the CBC is pushing, called Guys Work in Nova Scotia.

00:15:50.000 There's a person named Morris Green who founded it.

00:15:54.000 Green says he began working with schools in Nova Scotia in 2012, hoping to give young men a safe space to talk about their feelings, mental health, and to disrupt problematic ideas about masculinity.

00:16:03.000 Wow, disrupt, you gotta disrupt those problematic ideas.

00:16:06.000 There's often homophobia and a concern that anything other than straight may be perceived by peers as not normal.

00:16:10.000 We wanted to basically normalize help-seeking behavior.

00:16:13.000 Ah. 0.98

00:16:13.000 So, basically, the idea is that if you believe traditional things, this makes you a homophobe, and also probably you might be gay. 0.98

00:16:21.000 So, good job, CBC. 0.97

00:16:23.000 This is excellent.

00:16:24.000 Now, again, as I say, there are broader ramifications to this.

00:16:27.000 So many elements of Western civilization, from Great Britain to Canada to the United States, pushed by the cultural left, have this stamp.

00:16:35.000 And the stamp is that traditional ideas are bad and dangerous.

00:16:39.000 And those traditional ideas must be thrown out.

00:16:41.000 And that's how you end up with the CBC, a state-sponsored enterprise, pushing the idea That my content is somehow an extremism factory.

00:16:49.000 But you know what's not extreme in Canada?

00:16:52.000 What's not extreme is the Halton District School Board standing behind an accepted transgender teacher at Oakville Trafalgar High School. 0.98

00:17:02.000 Apparently, this teacher is a man who has been wearing fake breasts that are the sizes of beach balls with fake plastic hard nipples attached to them to class. 0.98

00:17:15.000 So this is a male teacher acting out his sexual fetishes against students. 1.00

00:17:18.000 That's what this is.

00:17:19.000 There's another rationale for this.

00:17:20.000 Because this is nutso behavior.

00:17:23.000 Technically speaking, this is crazy behavior.

00:17:26.000 No normal person would do this.

00:17:27.000 This is not something you would do. 0.96

00:17:28.000 This is not something a normal transgender person would do. 1.00

00:17:31.000 This is crazy behavior. 0.94

00:17:33.000 This is not a man who believes that he is a woman who just decided one day to put on a wig and slap on a dress. 0.99

00:17:39.000 Nope, this is a man who has decided to act out his actual full-on sexual fetishes in front of children because that is the only reason that you wear fake prosthetic breasts that are the size of watermelons to school with hard nipples at the end of them. 0.94

00:17:54.000 And the school district is defending this because after all, gender identity. 0.81

00:17:58.000 HDSP Chair Margo Shuttleworth told the Toronto Sun staff are looking at going through creating a safety plan to ensure the Oakville Trafalgar High School teachers' security as they prepare for potential protests when the school open for classes.

00:18:08.000 Protecting any person's gender rights is the stance the school board is taking.

00:18:11.000 They are standing behind the teacher, said Shuttleworth.

00:18:14.000 Pre-transition, the teacher was known to students and faculty as a male and went by a man's name.

00:18:18.000 The teacher now identifies as a woman and is referenced with a female name.

00:18:22.000 The school board says it simply sees her as a good teacher.

00:18:24.000 See, this is not extreme. 0.96

00:18:26.000 It's not extreme to foist upon students sexual perverts. 0.90

00:18:30.000 That's what that is, okay? 0.91

00:18:31.000 Again, we're not even talking about a person who just has gender dysphoria. 0.98

00:18:34.000 We're talking about a person, the picture shows, who's wearing watermelon-sized breasts in front of high school students with fake nipples attached to them. 0.83

00:18:45.000 That apparently is a sexual identity and that must be protected. 0.63

00:18:47.000 That's not extreme in any way.

00:18:48.000 True extremism is a saying that there are gradations of sexual morality in life and that heterosexual sex within the confines of marriage is the best.

00:18:58.000 That's the true extremism according to Canada.

00:19:02.000 And by the way, Canada right now is pushing forward with a bill to quote unquote address harmful online content.

00:19:08.000 It is not a coincidence the CBC is pushing this at the same time that this bill is moving forward.

00:19:12.000 According to Rachel Aiello at ctvnews.ca Apparently, after receiving heaps of largely critical feedback and going back to the drawing board with the help of experts over the last several months, sources close to a particular file on hate and harassment online tell CTV News the government is still contemplating how to approach the complex online safety legislation they are pushing in a way that responds to critics' concerns while addressing the state of discourse online.

00:19:37.000 The pledge originated with the intention of forcing online communication service providers like Facebook, YouTube, Twitter, Instagram, and TikTok To be more accountable and transparent in handling five kinds of harmful content on their platforms.

00:19:48.000 Hate speech, by which they mean anything they don't like.

00:19:52.000 Child exploitation, the sharing of non-consensual images, incitements to violence and terrorism.

00:19:57.000 The Liberals' intention was to ensure the kinds of behaviors that are illegal in person are also illegal online.

00:20:02.000 Well, the problem is that in Canada, many of the behaviors that are illegal in person are things that in the United States used to be called free speech.

00:20:08.000 So for example, in Canada, if you misgender a person, you could be in violation of the law in large swaths of Canada.

00:20:15.000 If you say that a man is a man and a woman is a woman in Canada, this may be a crime depending on how you address that question publicly.

00:20:20.000 So now they would like to extend that to the online sphere.

00:20:23.000 That is the goal here.

00:20:26.000 Sources say the government remains committed to putting forward legislation that will give Canadians more tools to address harms online.

00:20:32.000 So they are pushing this thing forward.

00:20:34.000 Again, what you're seeing from the CBC is part of a generalized push to destroy free speech in Canada.

00:20:43.000 And that is not a coincidence.

00:20:45.000 It also happens to not really be restricted to Canada.

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00:21:58.000 In the United States, there is a hard push from the left to radically shift the boundaries of quote-unquote acceptable speech.

00:22:07.000 So, for example, there's been a very hard push against my friend Libs of TikTok.

00:22:12.000 Libs of TikTok is an account, and all Libs of TikTok does on Twitter is just retweet videos of people who are nutty on the left.

00:22:21.000 People who say crazy, extreme, radical things and who are targeting children.

00:22:25.000 So Libs of TikTok, for example, puts out videos like this one.

00:22:28.000 This is a video of a fifth grade teacher who released a video on TikTok.

00:22:35.000 She calls herself the rainbow teacher, wears rainbow glasses and rainbow hair because obviously this is a gay, bisexual, I don't know how this person identifies, but this is not a straight person. 0.69

00:22:45.000 And this person says that she is really, really excited that so many students are coming to her and coming out without talking with their parents, without working through the issues.

00:22:54.000 We're talking about fifth graders.

00:22:56.000 Hey, fifth graders are 10 years old.

00:22:58.000 So she says there are a lot of 10, 11-year-olds who are coming to her and coming out of the closet.

00:23:03.000 Libs of TikTok, of course, is to blame for taking a public video and reposting it in a place where people might not actually approve of the recruitment of small children into the LGBT community.

00:23:13.000 Yes, I have had multiple students come out to me not just with their sexuality but also with their gender identity.

00:23:20.000 It's one of the reasons I think it's so important to be out and loud and proud so that people feel comfortable coming to me and talking to me because I don't know how much different my life would have been if I had had somebody to come talk to about this kind of stuff.

00:23:35.000 My hope is that every student will have somebody that they can talk to about this.

00:23:41.000 We're just here receiving.

00:23:43.000 This is a propagandist.

00:23:45.000 This is a propagandist who I'm sure propagandizes on behalf of the idea that boys can be girls, girls can be boys, and that the fullest form of self-exploration is alternative forms of sexual identity.

00:23:54.000 I mean, I don't feel like it's a big leap from, you know, the dyed eyebrows.

00:24:00.000 I don't feel like it's a giant leap.

00:24:01.000 But libs of TikTok, by putting this sort of stuff up, this means libs of TikTok must be curved.

00:24:06.000 So there's an entire article in the New Republic Just a couple of weeks ago, blaming libs of TikTok for a bomb threat, a fake bomb threat on Boston Children's Hospital.

00:24:17.000 Quote, what began in spring as a succession of far-right attacks on all ages drag events celebrating pride has by the end of the summer spiraled into a multi-city harassment campaign targeting children's hospitals for offering gender-affirming care, including death threats against providers and at least one bomb threat.

00:24:31.000 Anti-LGBTQ politics has without question accelerated and shifted character this year to embrace outright political violence. 0.97

00:24:36.000 Again, the idea is conflating The notions of traditional morality, and also, by the way, even if you're not traditional, the notion that you should not indoctrinate kids with this garbage. 0.98

00:24:45.000 That is apparently a form of violence.

00:24:46.000 Okay, so the argument the CBC is making in Canada, now you have many outlets in the United States making that about libs of TikTok.

00:24:53.000 And the natural corollary is that supposedly libs of TikTok should be banned.

00:24:59.000 This has been the ongoing harassment campaign by Taylor Lorenz of the Washington Post against libs of TikTok, who apparently spends every waking minute attempting to get libs of TikTok thrown off of social media because of the evil dangers of, you know, actually taking people's videos and then just exposing them to a larger audience.

00:25:15.000 Says the New Republic, these may be actors on the political fringe, and the tech-driven aspects of this terror campaign have sometimes been interpreted to minimize its real-world impact.

00:25:23.000 But the narrative of LGBTQ rights being cover for child abuse is not just fodder for the right-wing clout chasers of social media.

00:25:28.000 It has been weaponized by the right against their opponents in elections, from school boards to state legislatures.

00:25:33.000 It has been amplified and legitimized by lawmakers like Georgia Republican Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene, who in August introduced a sweeping bill that would ban gender-affirming care, and by Florida Governor Ron DeSantis.

00:25:42.000 Again, the idea here is everyone I don't like is a violent threat.

00:25:45.000 And thus, we must use the auspices of government and social media and big tech to shut them down.

00:25:51.000 And this, of course, is now being forwarded by certain governmental actors.

00:25:54.000 According to the Associated Press, in Montana, Montana's health department said Monday it will follow a judge's ruling and temporarily allow transgender people to change their gender on their birth certificates.

00:26:05.000 The judge issued a scathing order Monday morning saying health officials made calculated violations of his order, which had told them to temporarily stop enforcing a law blocking transgender people from changing their gender on their birth certificates unless they had undergone surgery.

00:26:18.000 There had been, um, there'd been a law that was passed duly by the state of Montana that said you are not allowed to retcon history and pretend that you were born a male when you were born a female.

00:26:28.000 And this judge overruled the law on the basis of, hmm, on the basis of whatever.

00:26:34.000 District Court Judge Michael Moses said Monday he would promptly consider motions for contempt based on continued violations of his April order, which he clarified in a verbal order at a hearing on Thursday.

00:26:42.000 Just hours after that hearing, the Republican-run state said it would defy the order and keep in place a rule that will disallow any changes to birth certificates unless they were due to a clerical error.

00:26:51.000 On Monday afternoon, the Department of Public Health and Human Services issued a statement saying it would comply with the order despite disagreeing with it.

00:26:57.000 Funny how all of the advocates on the left who are talking about how the Supreme Court is anti-democratic have no problem with the anti-democracy of a single district court judge forcing the state to now retcon birth certificates.

00:27:08.000 The goal here is a radical shift in social politics and the shutting down by law or social pressure of all countervailing viewpoints.

00:27:17.000 This ties into, of course, a broader problem in American public life right now, which is the attempt to criminalize opposing political activity.

00:27:26.000 Which brings us to this amazing story, courtesy of Ashley Oliver over at Breitbart.

00:27:29.000 Quote, a whistleblower has accused the FBI's Washington field office of using cases related to the January 6th U.S.

00:27:35.000 Capitol riot to overstate the threat of domestic violence extremism in America, according to Judiciary Committee Ranking Member Representative Jim Jordan of Ohio.

00:27:42.000 The whistleblower alleged the FBI did not follow standard investigative practices for the January 6th cases when it moved the cases to various local field offices around the country based on where the case subjects were from.

00:27:52.000 Jordan revealed in a letter addressed to the FBI Director Chris Wray, Over the weekend, January 6th cases should all be officially led by the Washington Field Office and categorized as WFO cases, according to the letter.

00:28:03.000 Instead, a task force dispatched instructions to open January 6th investigations to local field offices nationwide.

00:28:09.000 The whistleblower told Jordan, quote, the manipulative case file practice creates false and misleading crime statistics.

00:28:14.000 Instead of hundreds of investigations stemming from a single Black Swan incident at the Capitol, FBI and DOJ officials point to significant increases in domestic violence, extremism and terrorism around the United States.

00:28:24.000 Jordan noted in the letter, such an artificial case categorization scheme allows FBI leadership to misleadingly point to significant increases in domestic violence, extremist threats nationwide, which supports a narrative being perpetuated by the Biden administration.

00:28:36.000 The whistleblower also alleges January 6th cases weren't appropriately taking priority over other cases, citing an instance of being told that child sexual abuse material investigations were no longer an FBI priority and should be referred to local law enforcement agencies.

00:28:49.000 The whistleblower allegation comes after at least two other whistleblowers indicated to Jordan that FBI officials were pressuring agents to reclassify cases as domestic violence extremism, despite there being limited evidence to do so.

00:29:00.000 In other words, this has been the goal since January 6th, is to broaden out the indictment of people who committed criminal acts on January 6th to include a bunch of people who just disagree in local areas.

00:29:09.000 Which ties into the 2021 narrative, for example, that school boards being yelled at by angry parents over trans students going into bathrooms, that those school boards were now the victims of domestic terror threats.

00:29:24.000 The attempt to broaden out criminal prosecution to encompass people you just don't like is particularly scary coming, again, from law enforcement agencies that are imperfectly willing to play politics.

00:29:38.000 In a little-noticed story last week from the Washington Free Beacon, Chuck Ross reported that the Russian analyst charged with lying to the FBI about his role in crafting the infamous Steele dossier was on the Bureau's payroll as a confidential informant, according to an explosive court filing.

00:29:51.000 Special Counsel John Durham revealed the FBI hired Igor Danchenko in March 2017, months after the Bureau first interviewed him about his work on the Steele dossier. 0.98

00:29:58.000 The Steele dossier, of course, was crap.

00:29:59.000 Igor Danchenko was one of the lead sources for the Steele dossier. 0.99

00:30:02.000 And apparently the FBI had him on payroll.

00:30:05.000 Durham charged Danchenko last year with repeatedly lying to the FBI about his work on the dossier.

00:30:09.000 His source is for the discredited document.

00:30:11.000 Durham alleged that Danchenko fabricated allegations in the dossier that the Trump campaign colluded with Russia to influence the 2016 election.

00:30:18.000 Danchenko worked at the time for Christopher Steele, who investigated Trump on behalf of the Clinton campaign.

00:30:22.000 The filing is likely to raise questions about the FBI's relationship with Danchenko, which ended in October 2020.

00:30:27.000 The FBI opened a counterintelligence investigation against Danchenko in 2009, when he worked as an analyst at Brookings, a liberal think tank in Washington, D.C.

00:30:35.000 One of Danchenko's colleagues claimed Danchenko asked whether he'd be willing to sell him classified information.

00:30:39.000 The FBI closed that investigation after Danchenko left the United States in 2011.

00:30:43.000 Then he came back and he started working for Steele's private intelligence firm, Orbis.

00:30:47.000 During the 2016 presidential campaign, Steele funneled the Steele dossier to the FBI, and apparently the FBI was using Danchenko to provide information about a wide variety of topics and paying him at the time that he was similarly dissembling to them.

00:31:01.000 All of which is deeply suspicious.

00:31:03.000 The weaponization of law enforcement on behalf of a political point of view is truly frightening, and it should be.

00:31:09.000 And of course, this now extends to immigration.

00:31:13.000 So, Ron DeSantis, last week, he flew some 50 illegal immigrants from Texas via Florida to Martha's Vineyard.

00:31:22.000 And this set the world on fire.

00:31:23.000 The entire left-wing media lost their minds.

00:31:26.000 The legacy media, it was just awful.

00:31:27.000 It was just terrible.

00:31:28.000 How could such a thing happen?

00:31:30.000 After all, this is a human rights violation, putting people on it.

00:31:33.000 Air-conditioned charter airplanes when they, apparently, we are learning, been homeless, wandering around the border, taking them, putting them on charter airplanes to the nicest area of the United States, where they are promptly taken in by the local residents for a grand total of 48 hours before the National Guard arrives to take them to an Air Force base and provide them all the amenities.

00:31:48.000 Apparently, this is a massive human rights abuse.

00:31:51.000 It is amazing that the first move of so many Democratic officials is to simply criminalize things they do not like without any proper cause, by the way.

00:31:58.000 So yesterday, A Democratic sheriff in Bexar County, his name is Javier Salazar.

00:32:04.000 He said that he was opening an investigation into the 50 illegal immigrants sent to Martha's Vineyard.

00:32:09.000 This requires a full-scale investigation.

00:32:11.000 So, no investigation on the 2 million illegal immigrants crossing the southern border.

00:32:15.000 No investigation on drug cartels that are preying on people who are crossing the southern border by offering them work as soon as they get across.

00:32:21.000 This is a story of Blake Masters in Arizona, the senatorial campaign.

00:32:24.000 who's currently running for senator in Arizona.

00:32:28.000 He released that story that basically there are gangs that are going down to the border, finding young men who are crossing the border illegally, and then recruiting them into the drug trade.

00:32:37.000 No investigation from Javier Salazar on that.

00:32:40.000 No investigation on the 53 illegal immigrants who died in the back of a truck in his county not all that long ago.

00:32:46.000 But he is full scale on the case of the illegal immigrants who were put on charter airplanes to Martha's Vineyard and given snack bags and water bottles.

00:32:55.000 Here's Javier Salazar announcing this yesterday.

00:32:57.000 We are opening up a case with an investigation with regard to the suspected activities involving the 48 migrants from Venezuela.

00:33:09.000 As we understand it, 48 migrants were lured, I will use the word lured, under false pretenses into staying at a hotel.

00:33:20.000 For a couple of days they were taken by airplane at a certain point they were shuttled to an airplane where they were flown to Florida and then eventually flown to Martha's Vineyard again under false pretenses is the information that we have.

00:33:34.000 When you're playing with human lives of people that are already in a desperate situation people that Again, had every right to be where they were but were lured under false pretenses.

00:33:45.000 That does tend to bother me quite a bit and so we are absolutely opening up an investigation into this.

00:33:54.000 Not a political move.

00:33:55.000 By the way, he is an elected Democrat official.

00:33:58.000 Also, he said in the middle of the same press conference that he cannot actually point to any law that was broken.

00:34:04.000 Which, by the way, that's how you're supposed to do law enforcement.

00:34:07.000 You find a thing that you don't like and then you try to hang a crime on it.

00:34:10.000 It's like Letitia James, the Attorney General of New York.

00:34:13.000 When she was elected, she's like, I hate Trump and I will find a crime.

00:34:16.000 So basically, you now have the sheriff.

00:34:17.000 He's like, yeah, I don't see a crime here.

00:34:19.000 Like state, local, federal.

00:34:20.000 No crime here.

00:34:22.000 Ron DeSantis is a big meanie who humiliated Democrats, so I'm going to investigate him.

00:34:25.000 And this, by the way, made all the headlines, of course.

00:34:27.000 You saw the New York Times cover it.

00:34:28.000 You saw the Washington Post cover it.

00:34:30.000 Wow.

00:34:30.000 Ron DeSantis is under investigation.

00:34:32.000 They all still have the Mueller fantasy in their head that everybody I don't like will end up behind bars.

00:34:38.000 You'll see their frog marching DeSantis memes coming out any second from the left.

00:34:41.000 Here's the sheriff admitting, I have no criminal case here, but I'm going to investigate anyway and waste taxpayer dollars on it.

00:34:47.000 At this point, I'm not able to definitively say, here's the statute that they broke, either federal, state, or local.

00:34:52.000 But what I can tell you is it's wrong.

00:34:54.000 Just from a human rights perspective, what was done to these folks is wrong.

00:34:58.000 The allegations that we've heard is absolutely distasteful.

00:35:01.000 It's disgusting.

00:35:03.000 It's an abuse of human rights.

00:35:05.000 But I would like to find out sooner rather than later what charges, if any, are going to apply and to whom.

00:35:12.000 Well, wouldn't you investigate that before you announce an investigation?

00:35:15.000 Like what the possible statutes that were broken are?

00:35:17.000 That's not how you do law enforcement.

00:35:18.000 This is a joke.

00:35:19.000 Everybody knows it's a joke.

00:35:20.000 The media are covering it like it's not a joke.

00:35:21.000 Because again, their fantasy is apparently everybody we don't like who humiliates us publicly must be thrown in jail.

00:35:29.000 That's an amazing statement.

00:35:30.000 I'm not able to definitively say here's the statute they broke, but I don't like it very much.

00:35:34.000 It's bad.

00:35:36.000 Apparently, by the way, the brochures that were given to the illegal immigrants had information from the Massachusetts state website about what you get when you obtain refugee status, which you get after you are granted asylum, if in fact you are granted asylum.

00:35:51.000 Also, apparently, according to Ron DeSantis and the Florida government, apparently, the illegal immigrants were given multiple opportunities to get off the plane, to not go to Martha's Vineyard.

00:36:05.000 They said no one was promised a job.

00:36:07.000 Everyone was given multiple opportunities to leave.

00:36:09.000 Some decided not to go.

00:36:10.000 On the flight.

00:36:11.000 Those who did make the flight were provided bags with snacks and water and information.

00:36:14.000 An administration official said, many who made the trip were homeless and hungry.

00:36:17.000 And prior to the plane ride, they were put in accommodations for one or two days.

00:36:20.000 So basically they were given a free hotel for a couple of days, put on a charter flight to Martha's Vineyard.

00:36:23.000 That sounds like a nice vacation, to be honest with you.

00:36:26.000 I think a lot of Americans would like this deal.

00:36:28.000 Salazar said, the investigation doesn't have anything to do with the political affiliation.

00:36:32.000 Oh, yeah, I'm sure.

00:36:33.000 Yeah, I'm sure that it nothing.

00:36:35.000 It's not it's not politics at all that you are playing here.

00:36:39.000 It's more on this in just one second.

00:36:41.000 Well, folks, the time is upon us for another backstage happening tonight, 6 p.m.

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00:37:16.000 Okay, so Again, the left's prevailing take is, if I don't like it, it must be criminal.

00:37:22.000 Whether we are talking about a take on LGBTQ politics, or whether we are talking about Ron DeSantis shipping illegal immigrants from Texas via Florida to Martha's Vineyard.

00:37:32.000 The thing they actually don't want to pay attention to, of course, is the wages of illegal immigration.

00:37:36.000 that might actually require them to take action.

00:37:38.000 Instead, they would like to virtue signal about how they are into sanctuary cities without actually having to take credit for their very, very bad policy.

00:37:44.000 This is a point made by the Washington Examiner.

00:37:46.000 It's also made by Ron DeSantis' team.

00:37:49.000 Ron DeSantis' team put out a statement after Bexar County Sheriff Javier Salazar announced an investigation with no actual statute to back him.

00:37:56.000 The DeSantis administration put out a statement pointing out that he seemed a lot less bothered by 53 illegal immigrants dying in a truck found abandoned in Bexar County this June.

00:38:08.000 The spokesperson for the governor said Florida gave them an opportunity to see greener pastures in a sanctuary jurisdiction that offered greater resources for them as we expected.

00:38:15.000 Unless the Massachusetts National Guard has abandoned these individuals, they've been provided accommodation, sustenance, clothing, and more options to succeed following their unfair enticement into the United States.

00:38:23.000 You're thinking that you're speaking about luring people?

00:38:25.000 How about luring two million people across the southern border and then basically abandoning them, which is what the Biden administration has done.

00:38:31.000 That seems like a bit more of a problem.

00:38:32.000 That's the point the Washington Examiner editorial board makes.

00:38:35.000 Sending a few immigrants to a Democratic enclave inhabited by left liberals who mostly support Biden and are planning rich enough to look after the new arrivals is an effective way of drawing a national crisis properly to national attention. 0.97

00:38:46.000 It also puts those responsible for the crisis on the spot and asks what they propose doing about it.

00:38:50.000 Not only is it Republicans who are trying to get Biden to pay attention to the disaster he has caused.

00:38:54.000 The mayor of Yuma, Arizona asked the White House in May to stop busing immigrants to his small city of 97,000.

00:38:57.000 Biden ignored Yuma.

00:39:00.000 The bus of immigrants kept flowing.

00:39:02.000 The Democratic mayor of Eagle Pass, Texas reached out to the White House for assistance with immigrants flooding his community. 1.00

00:39:07.000 Mayor Rolando Salinas told the Washington Examiner, I'd like to hear a plan as to what they're doing to counter the possibility of a surge in people on the border.

00:39:13.000 Nobody's reached out to me or to the city.

00:39:14.000 I haven't heard from anyone.

00:39:16.000 The situation in El Paso, Texas is even worse.

00:39:18.000 Immigrants are sleeping on streets all over town.

00:39:20.000 The situation is so bad, the Democratic mayor has already sent more than 50 bus loads to New York City, over and above any sent there, and to Washington, D.C.

00:39:27.000 by Texas Governor Greg Abbott.

00:39:28.000 Those buses have been arriving in New York since August.

00:39:30.000 CBS News didn't bother to report on those.

00:39:33.000 Again, 50 illegal immigrants arriving in Martha's Vineyard sets the world aflame simply because the left is forced to admit that its policies don't work. 1.00

00:39:40.000 And so their natural apparent response is to celebrate when a sheriff with no legal authority whatsoever to prosecute a non-crime decides that he is going to get himself involved in this sort of thing.

00:39:53.000 Now, this should be scary to a lot of Americans.

00:39:55.000 It really should.

00:39:56.000 And it underscores the fact that sort of traditional Western values are being undermined in a wild way.

00:40:02.000 They're basic values, fundamental values, like the value of family, the value of a border, right?

00:40:06.000 These are things that used to be held in common by all Western citizens.

00:40:10.000 Yeah, there are a lot of people who believed in freedom of immigration.

00:40:13.000 That's fine.

00:40:13.000 But the idea that illegal immigration is okay or that a government has no control over its own border is totally crazy.

00:40:19.000 There used to be a lot of Americans who believed that traditional marriage was the standard.

00:40:23.000 Now, if you say that in Canada, you might be prosecuted.

00:40:26.000 All of this stuff is, I think, one of the reasons why there was outsized mourning for Queen Elizabeth II.

00:40:34.000 I think that when she died, there were a lot of people in the West who felt as though something really important died with her.

00:40:40.000 And that was a tether to the past.

00:40:43.000 The left seems very hot and bothered about the fact that there are so many people who mourn for Queen Elizabeth II.

00:40:49.000 And they're wondering why.

00:40:50.000 After all, she didn't actually have real power.

00:40:52.000 But the real reason why there are so many people who are mourning for Queen Elizabeth II is, again, we are part of a chain of history.

00:40:58.000 And when you untether that chain, what you end up with is bad utopian ideas floating away into the sunlight where they burn up and fall down to Earth like Icarus.

00:41:08.000 That is what we are watching as a civilization right now.

00:41:11.000 And so, mourning the death of a person who is tethered to that past, tethered to traditional religions, tethered to traditional ideas, that is well worthwhile. 0.97

00:41:20.000 The left likes to pretend it's not worthwhile, that it's really bad and really stupid, but in reality, that is something that is indeed worth mourning. 0.90

00:41:27.000 Alrighty, guys, the rest of the show is continuing. 0.96

00:41:28.000 Now, you're not going to want to miss it.

00:41:29.000 We'll be getting into Don Lemming getting absolutely shellacked on CNN by a historian for the royals.

00:41:35.000 Plus, we still have to get into Joe Biden suggesting that inflation actually isn't that bad.

The Ben Shapiro Show - September 20, 2022

Apparently, I’m Very Scary | Ep. 1578

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