The Ben Shapiro Show - Are We Now In A Covid Panic? | Ep. 1065

00:00:00.000 Coronavirus starts to dip in Arizona, Florida, and Texas, while members of government consider new lockdowns.

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00:00:25.000 Well, I have to note that there's something that's very weird going on in this country and in media, and that is the sense that things are constantly getting worse with regard to COVID when the evidence that things are getting worse with regard to COVID really is not spectacular.

00:00:38.000 And what I mean by that is obviously we've seen more deaths over the past month.

00:00:40.000 There's just no question.

00:00:41.000 We've seen more infections over the past month.

00:00:43.000 But as a percentage of infection, deaths continue to decline.

00:00:47.000 As a running tab in terms of hospitalizations, deaths continue to decline.

00:00:53.000 Hospitalizations have started to decline in places like Arizona, Florida, and Texas.

00:00:57.000 And it is also worthy of note that other countries are now experiencing unrest in the streets over lockdown.

00:01:02.000 So all of the talk about how in the United States, it's all red state, blue state kind of stuff.

00:01:06.000 Only these evil conservatives want to stop the lockdowns and reopen the economy.

00:01:10.000 They're literally having mass protests in the streets of Berlin over the lockdown.

00:01:14.000 In Israel, they've had mass protests in the streets over everything from unemployment to lockdown.

00:01:19.000 Specifically targeted lockdown against religious communities is one of the implications.

00:01:23.000 This sort of stuff has been happening all over the world because it turns out that when you lock hundreds of millions of people indoor for months on end and tell them that in order to be safe from a virus that largely kills people who are above the age of 80, most people who are young are not going to abide by that.

00:01:37.000 And most people who are young are going to start going out again.

00:01:40.000 They're going to start participating in everyday life again.

00:01:42.000 And let's be real about this, they probably should.

00:01:44.000 If you're 20 years old, there is no reason for you to stay home other than you're afraid that you're going to infect grandma.

00:01:50.000 That's pretty much it.

00:01:51.000 And that means that when you visit grandma, grandma should wear a mask and you should wear a mask and you should socially distance.

00:01:55.000 And that's all.

00:01:57.000 The notion that large numbers of young people are in danger from this or dying from this, it is not statistically true.

00:02:02.000 And I get the sense that there is this real gap in the American level of panic about this thing and the actual facts on the ground about how deadly this thing is.

00:02:11.000 I think that if you asked regular everyday Americans, how many people out of a thousand who get COVID do you think are going to die of this thing?

00:02:16.000 The average American would probably tell you out of 100 people, 10 will die.

00:02:21.000 Out of 1,000 people, 50 to 100 will die.

00:02:24.000 And that's not true.

00:02:25.000 That is not true.

00:02:27.000 If you are under the age of 25, you are not dying from this, statistically speaking.

00:02:31.000 If you are under the age of 55, you are almost certainly not dying of this, statistically speaking.

00:02:37.000 In fact, in the United States, we've seen something on the order of 150,000 deaths.

00:02:41.000 When you break it down by group, I was talking with somebody who was actually a member of the group that wrote the CDC guidelines over the Shabbat weekend.

00:02:49.000 And this guy was saying that the average age of death in the United States from COVID, and this is true according to the CDC, the average age, average, is 80.

00:02:57.000 Which means that half of the people who have died of this are above the age of 80.

00:03:02.000 Half.

00:03:03.000 Okay, and the truth is that nearly everybody who has died of this is above the age of 70.

00:03:07.000 Okay, the CDC puts out these stats regularly.

00:03:11.000 And here are the stats that are the latest stats.

00:03:13.000 This is from late July.

00:03:15.000 In terms of absolute number of deaths by age group in the United States.

00:03:20.000 And this would be out of a total of some 100,000 deaths that were reported to the CDC as of like mid-July.

00:03:27.000 Because there's been, again, this uptick over the past few months, and there's late reporting.

00:03:30.000 Okay, so this is out of maybe 100,000 deaths that were reported to the CDC as of mid to late July.

00:03:38.000 If you are under the age of 25, out of those 100,000 deaths, there have been 1,236 deaths.

00:03:45.000 Okay, if you're under the age of 25.

00:03:47.000 In a population that probably has 100 million people under the age of 25.

00:03:51.000 There have been a grand total of 14 deaths below the age of 5.

00:03:54.000 There have been a grand total of 23 deaths below the age of 15.

00:04:00.000 So we're not talking about large numbers of young people who are getting this and dying of this.

00:04:04.000 Nor are we talking about large numbers of young people between the ages of 25 and 34 who are dying of this.

00:04:08.000 There have been a grand total of, again, according to the CDC, and this is out of about 100,000 deaths that were reported as of mid-July, there were 200 deaths aged 25 to 34.

00:04:17.000 And when you look at the curves from the CDC in terms of actual numbers of overall death in these age groups, COVID represents an extraordinarily small percentage of the overall number of deaths in these age groups, which is why, if you look at the flu, you should be, if you are a parent, you should be much more scared of your kid getting the flu than you should about your kid getting COVID.

00:04:35.000 No doubt.

00:04:37.000 And without a doubt, like you're 16 to 20 times as likely to die from the flu if you're under the age of five than you are to die of COVID.

00:04:44.000 Which again, should not be a surprise.

00:04:45.000 We've known this for a long time.

00:04:46.000 And this is why it's so maddening when you see our experts say things like, well, you know, it's true that mostly old people are getting this, but it could happen to anybody.

00:04:54.000 Statistically speaking, it really can't.

00:04:56.000 Statistically speaking, the people who are dying of this are generally older, which means you protect those populations.

00:05:03.000 And then if you wish to reach anything like herd immunity, what you actually want is not to shut down the spread.

00:05:08.000 You want young, healthy people to actually get it over time if you want to reach herd immunity.

00:05:12.000 And I know herd immunity became this sort of bad term that you're not allowed to use anymore.

00:05:17.000 Because we're all supposed to sit around waiting for the vaccine. 0.93

00:05:18.000 But that was always a foolish notion.

00:05:21.000 That herd immunity was completely off the table. 0.80

00:05:24.000 Especially because, again, we can look back at Sweden.

00:05:27.000 There's a lot of talk about Sweden was going for herd immunity.

00:05:29.000 Look how badly they did it.

00:05:30.000 Okay, Sweden never locked down.

00:05:31.000 Sweden actually saw a GDP growth in their last quarter.

00:05:35.000 And Sweden now has a declining level of cases and nearly no death.

00:05:39.000 Why?

00:05:40.000 Well, because it turns out that the immunity to the herd immunity rates to this thing may not in fact be 70 or 80% as originally supposed.

00:05:46.000 It may be as low as 20 or 30% because it is possible that a lot of people have T cell immunity.

00:05:51.000 Meaning that if you had a cold in the recent past, you have a certain level of immunity already built up to COVID.

00:05:57.000 It is maddening when you hear experts say things.

00:05:59.000 I mean, Anthony Fauci will say stuff like this on national TV.

00:06:02.000 He'll say, well, it's true that this is mostly affecting older people.

00:06:04.000 Young people can be hurt by this too.

00:06:06.000 Okay, well, it is true that death mostly affects older people.

00:06:09.000 Death can affect younger people too.

00:06:11.000 There are lots of things in life that also affect younger people.

00:06:13.000 Irritable bowel syndrome affects younger people.

00:06:15.000 It is also much more prevalent among the elderly.

00:06:18.000 The question is not, can a bad thing happen to you?

00:06:20.000 The question is, what are the chances of the bad thing happening to you?

00:06:25.000 And that is the thing that we should be focused on, but nobody seems to be focused on that right now.

00:06:29.000 There's a Swiss study of seroprevalence, trying to figure out what exactly the infection fatality rate was of COVID by age.

00:06:36.000 And what it showed is that if you're under the age of 10, you're basically more likely to be struck by lightning than to die of COVID.

00:06:43.000 If you're below the age of 20, same thing is true. 0.90

00:06:48.000 Even if you're looking at the generalized overall COVID death rates, the infection fatality rate, so the CDC is now estimating that the infection fatality rate could be anywhere from 0.2 to 0.6, which is something I've been saying for literally months, pretty much since this started.

00:07:01.000 Even if you take the upper end estimate, 0.6, I think people don't understand what that means.

00:07:05.000 That means if 1,000 people get COVID, 994 of them will live.

00:07:08.000 Now that does not necessarily mean that everybody who lives is going to be completely undamaged by it, but we don't actually have the data on how many people are damaged or what the damage looks like.

00:07:17.000 So instead, we see these anecdotal horror stories of people who have zero lung function, or we hear these kind of vague statements that people will have heart damage, but we don't know how much heart damage.

00:07:26.000 Okay, that's panic porn.

00:07:27.000 It is.

00:07:27.000 If you don't have hard data, that's panic porn.

00:07:29.000 And panic porn sells papers, and it moves clicks.

00:07:33.000 But panic porn is not good for your brain, and it ain't good for your soul, and it doesn't allow you to calculate, on an everyday level, what sort of risks you should be taking as a responsible human being.

00:07:42.000 Frankly, it is maddening that we have continued to act as though this thing is equally deadly for all age groups, and that everybody should be treated equally in the population in terms of lockdown.

00:07:51.000 It doesn't make any sense at all.

00:07:52.000 Like, none.

00:07:54.000 Again, the fact is that this is disproportionately affecting elderly people because elderly people have more underlying conditions and are more likely to die, period.

00:08:04.000 The fact is that if you look at death from all causes among people who are above the age of 85, death of all causes between essentially July, between February 1st and July 25th, Death of all causes.

00:08:20.000 If you're over the age of 85, 467,000 people died in that period above the age of 85 in this country, and 44,000 of them died of COVID.

00:08:29.000 Hey, what does that mean?

00:08:30.000 It means a lot of people died of COVID above the age of 85.

00:08:32.000 Like, a lot.

00:08:32.000 In fact, that's the single largest population group in terms of who died from COVID, is people above the age of 85.

00:08:38.000 Out of the 6.5 million Americans who are in that age group, some 44,000 people died in that age group.

00:08:43.000 And it is by far, by a plurality, the largest age group for death.

00:08:48.000 That doesn't mean that each one of those deaths isn't a tragedy.

00:08:50.000 It means that when you're trying to figure out who goes back to work, 85-year-olds are not the ones who are staffing the workplace.

00:08:55.000 Now again, if you've got underlying conditions, if you've got obesity or diabetes, then maybe you should think about distancing and wearing a mask and doing all the things that you should do.

00:09:05.000 But if you're younger, I think that all the talk about how we can never talk herd immunity, we can never, like, I don't know what everybody's plan is.

00:09:12.000 I'm not hearing a plan.

00:09:14.000 And if the plan is wait for a vaccine, that plan has some holes in it.

00:09:18.000 It has some serious holes in it.

00:09:19.000 Okay, so in a second, we're gonna talk about the wait for a vaccine plan.

00:09:21.000 We're also gonna talk about what's happening in Arizona, Florida, and Texas, where we were hearing doom and gloom.

00:09:26.000 Everyone was gonna die.

00:09:27.000 And it got pretty bad in terms of the deaths per day in places like Florida, Arizona, and Texas.

00:09:32.000 And now they've hit the downslope.

00:09:34.000 We'll talk about, also, how this does not correlate with lockdown.

00:09:36.000 It doesn't.

00:09:38.000 The notion that lockdown saved these states, California never stopped locking down.

00:09:41.000 And California has had the latest peak of any of these states.

00:09:44.000 It turns out, these states were not experiencing a second wave.

00:09:46.000 They never experienced a first wave.

00:09:48.000 They were just experiencing the first wave.

00:09:49.000 And now the question is, if there even will be a second wave, depending on how many people actually got this.

00:09:57.000 Is this a moral panic at this point?

00:10:00.000 It may well be.

00:10:01.000 That doesn't mean it ain't dangerous.

00:10:02.000 It doesn't mean it ain't real.

00:10:03.000 It's dangerous.

00:10:04.000 It's real.

00:10:05.000 You should take precautions to make sure that people who are vulnerable don't get it.

00:10:09.000 We are now making risk calculations, not based on any hard data.

00:10:12.000 We are making risk calculations based on the panic porn put out there by the media.

00:10:15.000 And yes, by some public health experts, whose literal job, like a lawyer, you know, I've been, I've acted as a lawyer.

00:10:20.000 Your job as a lawyer is risk mitigation.

00:10:22.000 You go to your client and say, here are all the risks, right, in your business.

00:10:25.000 And we need to take care of all of those risks.

00:10:27.000 If you are a quote unquote health policy expert, your job is to mitigate risk to human life.

00:10:32.000 And if that means scaring people, then you scare people.

00:10:34.000 And if it means kind of overstating the case a little bit, then you do that too.

00:10:38.000 But you are never asked to take into account the countervailing problems with locking down entire societies, which we'll discuss in just one second.

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00:11:59.000 Okay, so again, all we heard for literally months was Arizona, Florida, Texas, we're all going to die.

00:12:04.000 It is just as bad.

00:12:05.000 It's like New York.

00:12:06.000 It's like 12 New York's.

00:12:07.000 It's a bunch of New York's all over the place.

00:12:09.000 The hospitals are going to be overwhelmed.

00:12:10.000 Well, now it seems that that is simply not the case.

00:12:13.000 It seems that we may be looking at the at the Basically, the end of this thing in Florida and Arizona and Texas, at least for the moment.

00:12:20.000 You know, we don't know what's going to happen come the fall.

00:12:22.000 But again, it's hard to see how the spread is going to be much more dramatic than it just was in Florida, Arizona, and Texas.

00:12:28.000 So here is a chart.

00:12:30.000 Okay, the chart shows you what happened in New York versus what happened in Arizona, Florida, and Texas combined. 1.00

00:12:35.000 Anybody who compared these places is being an idiot. 0.99

00:12:38.000 That solid line right there is the number of deaths. 1.00

00:12:40.000 You can see a blue solid line for New York and it goes sky high, sky high, all the way up to number of deaths per day per million.

00:12:49.000 New York went up to like 40 deaths per day per million in the state.

00:12:53.000 Arizona, Florida, and Texas combined never went above 10.

00:12:57.000 Never.

00:12:58.000 Okay, so it was never like New York.

00:13:00.000 It was never like New York.

00:13:01.000 You can see New York just got overwhelmed.

00:13:03.000 New York got hit really hard, and more than anything, New York did not protect its elderly homes, and that meant a lot of elderly people died.

00:13:10.000 Because guess what?

00:13:11.000 Elderly people are the people who are mostly dying from this, again.

00:13:14.000 The number of Americans who have died of this disease total under the age of 55 in the United States, at least as reported as of mid-July by the CDC, under 11,000 out of 100,000.

00:13:26.000 This is a disease that is mostly killing elderly people.

00:13:30.000 That does not mean it's not dangerous.

00:13:31.000 It doesn't mean don't be careful for the thousandth time.

00:13:34.000 Okay, so Florida and Arizona and Texas, you've also started to see the cases come down.

00:13:38.000 Go back to that other chart for a second.

00:13:39.000 You can see the dotted line.

00:13:41.000 There's a red dotted line.

00:13:42.000 And what the red dotted line shows is cases.

00:13:44.000 So you can see New York spiked.

00:13:46.000 It looks exactly like the curve you didn't want.

00:13:48.000 So New York spiked.

00:13:49.000 It spiked in terms of cases and spiked in terms of death.

00:13:51.000 And then you can see on that red dotted line, Arizona, Florida, and Texas, they spiked in terms of cases.

00:13:57.000 and they kind of gradually rose in terms of death.

00:14:00.000 And now, presumably, all of this will start to recede as the trailing indicator that is death, you know, goes up a little bit, and then it'll start to come down again.

00:14:08.000 This is all courtesy of covidtracking.com.

00:14:10.000 And then you can look at the second wave up.

00:14:15.000 You can also look at when you compare cases and deaths on the same scale and access.

00:14:22.000 So here is the media telling you, you know, exactly how bad things were going to be in terms of cases and deaths.

00:14:28.000 You can see the deaths remained extraordinarily low throughout, right?

00:14:33.000 They have remained very, very low throughout.

00:14:34.000 The cases created this huge mountain of cases, mainly identified cases.

00:14:38.000 Lots of asymptomatics were being identified here.

00:14:40.000 Lots of cases that were not particularly dangerous.

00:14:43.000 And I think here we should note that there is this weird tendency out there to think that if a person who's 30 gets COVID and then recovers from it, something bad just happened.

00:14:51.000 If a person got COVID and they're 30 and they recovered from it and they're not harmed by it, an extraordinarily good thing happened, not just for the person, not just because they're Superman and can walk around, but also because that person is no longer capable of carrying the disease.

00:15:03.000 The way that you approach herd immunity is by making people not able to carry around the disease, not to be vectors of transmission.

00:15:09.000 Now, you can see here, by the way, on this chart, again, courtesy of covidtracking.com, from you know and Weiss, who does a great job putting these charts together.

00:15:17.000 You can see exactly how the lockdowns had no effect in Arizona, Florida, and Texas.

00:15:23.000 And then, as soon as the protests began, you can see the thing starts to spike.

00:15:28.000 The lockdowns kicked in late March.

00:15:31.000 The case load had already started to rise a little bit.

00:15:33.000 It basically was flat.

00:15:34.000 Then the reopenings happened at the beginning of May.

00:15:35.000 It completely stayed flat.

00:15:37.000 Then the protests happened at the end of May.

00:15:39.000 And then, literally two weeks later, the number of cases starts climbing.

00:15:43.000 So for all of this talk about how the protests did nothing, it turns out that that also was not true.

00:15:49.000 Also worth noting, there are certain states that never reopened and they're having spikes in cases.

00:15:53.000 Hey, Hawaii had a huge spike in number of COVID cases per day per million.

00:15:58.000 Hawaii, okay, they've shut down travel.

00:16:01.000 You literally cannot vacation in Hawaii.

00:16:04.000 And Hawaii is at, it's an island in the middle of nowhere.

00:16:07.000 They've had huge spikes.

00:16:07.000 You're starting to see spikes in Alaska.

00:16:10.000 It turns out that basically everybody's gonna get hit by this, and the only thing you can do is protect the vulnerable.

00:16:16.000 Which, by the way, was the recommendation in terms of policy that I've been putting out there for literally months.

00:16:21.000 I mean, I had a full episode devoted to the idea of what two Israeli scientists called controlled avalanche early on.

00:16:26.000 Their suggestion was, if you're gonna approach herd immunity, the way you approach herd immunity is you actually want people who are younger to get it and not pass it to older people.

00:16:35.000 If you're a part of a non-vulnerable population, it is a very good thing for you to have it. 0.95

00:16:40.000 Not on a personal level, obviously.

00:16:41.000 Nobody wants to get sick.

00:16:43.000 But in terms of approaching herd immunity, just in the same way that a vaccine... Look, you may never get the disease that you get the vaccine for.

00:16:49.000 The vaccine is an attempt to prevent you from becoming a vector of transmission for that disease.

00:16:53.000 And that's why people have vaccinations.

00:16:56.000 The same thing holds true when it comes to herd immunity and getting something like COVID.

00:16:59.000 This doesn't mean you should willy-nilly go out and have COVID parties, because again, we don't know all the risks at this point, but here's the reality of it.

00:17:06.000 As this thing makes its way through the population, there's no way to stop it.

00:17:09.000 And anyone who is telling you that there is a clear, obvious way to stop it is wrong.

00:17:12.000 Japan is seeing a spike in cases right now.

00:17:14.000 Japan has extraordinarily high levels of both masking and of social listening, people who obey the rules, basically.

00:17:24.000 And they're seeing spikes too.

00:17:26.000 So what that means is, if you actually want to have, at any point, something approaching herd immunity, how about this?

00:17:30.000 How about we tranche back in the populations that are most healthy, and we protect the populations that are least healthy?

00:17:35.000 And you know what that would include?

00:17:36.000 Opening the schools.

00:17:37.000 You know who are the healthiest populations?

00:17:38.000 Kids.

00:17:39.000 So if kids all get this, and pass it to each other, and don't kill their parents, which, by the way, we have not seen a lot of evidence of transmission from kids to parents, There's one lab study that came out over the weekend suggesting that kids can pass it and have the ability to pass it, but there are studies in Switzerland and Iceland and Australia and Sweden suggesting kids are really not passing this thing very much.

00:17:59.000 Okay, then schools are actually a great way of taking an entire population off the table as carriers of the disease with the ability to pass it.

00:18:08.000 It's not a bad thing.

00:18:09.000 Meanwhile, the experts continue to act as though Panic is warranted.

00:18:15.000 Concern is always warranted.

00:18:16.000 Concern is always warranted.

00:18:17.000 But panic is not warranted.

00:18:19.000 And they're putting out not great information.

00:18:21.000 So for example, Dr. Fauci, who again, I think he's doing the best he can.

00:18:24.000 I think the man is an American hero for his work on HIV.

00:18:27.000 I also think that his assessment of the situation throughout has been dicey.

00:18:33.000 I think he has made mistakes, for sure.

00:18:35.000 And I think that the fact that Fauci will say things like, we need to lock down harder, while simultaneously refusing to answer questions about protests that probably seeded huge increases in places like California.

00:18:46.000 There's something overtly political to that.

00:18:48.000 Anyway, here is Anthony Fauci, late last week, testifying before Congress and saying, our big problem in the United States is we didn't lock down harder like Europe.

00:18:56.000 If you look at what happened in Europe when they shut down or locked down or went to shelter in place, however you want to describe it, they really did it to the tune of about 95 plus percent of the country did that.

00:19:09.000 When you actually look at what we did, even though we shut down, even though it created a great deal of difficulty, we really functionally shut down only about 50 percent in the sense of the totality of the country.

00:19:24.000 Okay, but most of the country didn't have caseloads like this.

00:19:28.000 And by the way, he happens not to be right about this.

00:19:30.000 Like on an actual level, he happens not to be right about this.

00:19:33.000 The United States The United States shut down about the same level in terms of voluntary social distancing as Germany.

00:19:41.000 Apple does this thing they call mobility trends.

00:19:44.000 Mobility trends are basically they use their data to track how people are making routing requests.

00:19:50.000 Like how much people are moving.

00:19:52.000 So here's what Germany's chart looks like.

00:19:55.000 So what you've seen is that in April, in late March basically, all of their numbers on walking, driving, transit plunged by more than 60%.

00:20:04.000 And now, they're back above sort of baseline.

00:20:07.000 They've increased since April.

00:20:11.000 Since April, they've increased their walking about 63%, their driving about 59%, their transit about 36%.

00:20:16.000 Okay, now, let's look at the United States' chart.

00:20:19.000 Why, look at that!

00:20:20.000 It looks almost identical.

00:20:21.000 Oh, goodness!

00:20:22.000 It looks as though the United States plunged almost about 60%, and then has climbed back up 54% driving, 45% walking, and 46% transit.

00:20:31.000 So, um, where's the giant difference, exactly?

00:20:36.000 Alex Berenson gets credit for that one.

00:20:37.000 It's a good call by him.

00:20:39.000 The notion that we didn't lock down here is just not true.

00:20:44.000 I lived in LA the whole time.

00:20:46.000 We locked down hard.

00:20:48.000 The difference between the United States and Germany is not the level of lockdown.

00:20:51.000 The difference between the United States and Germany is that this thing was not seeded all that heavily in Germany.

00:20:55.000 It was very heavily seeded in the United States by early March.

00:20:59.000 The first cases known in the United States were happening by late January.

00:21:03.000 Which is why, once it exploded in New York, it really exploded in New York.

00:21:07.000 Again, the experts, a lot of the things the experts are saying here just do not seem to jibe with the scientific reality.

00:21:15.000 And again, you have to ask, which experts?

00:21:17.000 Because there are plenty of experts who disagree with the idea that lockdowns are the be-all end-all here.

00:21:21.000 And if we ever hope to come out of this thing, I think that this pipe dream that we're going to lock down until there's a vaccine, I don't know what anybody's talking about.

00:21:27.000 We were told, flatten the curve.

00:21:28.000 The curve has been flattened.

00:21:29.000 You know what didn't get overwhelmed?

00:21:30.000 The hospitals in Florida or Arizona or Texas.

00:21:33.000 Or by the way, California.

00:21:35.000 So last week, I was feeling sick.

00:21:36.000 I went over to get a COVID test in California.

00:21:39.000 I walked in, went to the UCLA hospital.

00:21:41.000 Within two and a half hours, they had my test results.

00:21:43.000 The ER was completely empty.

00:21:44.000 Completely empty.

00:21:46.000 They were not being threatened in terms of ICU.

00:21:47.000 I mean, I asked the nurses, are you being threatened in terms of ICU?

00:21:50.000 By the way, thank God, I am COVID negative.

00:21:52.000 And I say, thank God, not because I was experiencing heavy symptoms or anything, but because my parents, who are in their 60s, were very careful about this stuff, right?

00:21:59.000 I didn't want to be COVID positive, because then I would have had to isolate and all of that.

00:22:02.000 So here's the rule, okay guys?

00:22:04.000 If you have it, go isolate if you are near elderly people particularly, but generally, because you don't want this thing passing willy-nilly throughout society in ways that you can't control.

00:22:12.000 Two, young people should go back to work. 1.00

00:22:15.000 Young people who are healthy, young people should go back to work. 1.00

00:22:18.000 And this is why the conversation happening about schools right now is not in any way related to reality.

00:22:24.000 Wear the masks, socially distance, try not to pass this thing because Realistically speaking, what you don't want is what you call sort of an epidemic overhang, where if you hit herd immunity at, let's say, 30%, it moves so fast through the population, it takes out 35% of the population without it moving slowly.

00:22:40.000 You kind of want to slowly approach herd immunity.

00:22:43.000 But the notion that we're going to lock down forever, like even in Germany, they're looking at this going, no, we're not.

00:22:49.000 Francis said we're not re-locking down.

00:22:50.000 So I don't know what the hell we're talking about here.

00:22:52.000 We're gonna get to more of this in just one second.

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00:24:04.000 Okay, so.

00:24:07.000 When there are people that I've had on this show, who I consider to be experts on all of this, who I think are just scaring the living hell out of people, and I don't know what they are saying is supremely useful.

00:24:16.000 So, Dr. Deborah Birx, over the weekend, she did a bunch of interviews.

00:24:19.000 This is after Nancy Pelosi ripped her up and down for apparently being some sort of Trump stooge, which is just insane.

00:24:23.000 Nancy Pelosi has the amount of information in that brain could fit probably on the head of a pin. 1.00

00:24:30.000 Almost certainly inside the brain of an ass. 1.00

00:24:33.000 In any case, here was Dr. Deborah Birx explaining that the virus is extraordinarily widespread. 1.00

00:24:38.000 But I want to be very clear.

00:24:40.000 What we're seeing today is different from March and April.

00:24:43.000 It is extraordinarily widespread.

00:24:46.000 It's into the rural as equal urban areas.

00:24:49.000 And to everybody who lives in a rural area, you are not immune or protected from this virus.

00:24:55.000 Nobody is saying that anybody is protected from this virus.

00:24:58.000 Nobody is saying that anybody is protected from this virus.

00:25:00.000 But the sort of, like, panic that you're all going to die if you get the virus, and that the virus is going to kill you if you're young and you're healthy, so you got to stay out of school.

00:25:07.000 This is what's leading to the insanity of teachers in Iowa sending the governor of Iowa their own obituaries, their obituaries, saying that they're going to die if they go back to school.

00:25:16.000 The data on this is extraordinarily lacking.

00:25:19.000 Canada has been sending people back to school.

00:25:21.000 Sweden never shut down its schools, is my understanding.

00:25:25.000 The only case that we know of in which there was an outbreak at a school was in Israel and we still don't know whether the kids were passing it to the adults.

00:25:30.000 And also there's a difference between kids under the age of 10 and kids over the age of 10.

00:25:33.000 This is something that we know.

00:25:35.000 And Dr. Deborah Brooks also says maybe you should wear a mask at home.

00:25:37.000 Now, again, I'm not gonna disagree that if you've got an elderly person in the home or somebody you think is vulnerable, they should.

00:25:43.000 So, my kids are going to camp now.

00:25:45.000 They're going to camp because they're small children.

00:25:47.000 And guess what?

00:25:48.000 Small children need to be with other small children, and I'm not afraid they're gonna get sick because they're small children.

00:25:52.000 My parents are 65.

00:25:54.000 I talked to several doctors, and what they suggested is when my parents come over, my parents should socially distance outside, and they should be wearing N95 masks. 0.95

00:26:02.000 And my parents are doing that.

00:26:03.000 Is that fun for them?

00:26:04.000 No.

00:26:05.000 But is it smart to completely isolate my kids for all of time?

00:26:09.000 I don't think so either.

00:26:10.000 So I want the best of both worlds, which at this point means protect my parents, but make sure that my kids can also do the things they need to do.

00:26:16.000 Here's Dr. Birx.

00:26:18.000 But more importantly, if you're in multi-generational households and there's an outbreak in your rural area or in your city, you need to really consider wearing a mask at home, assuming that you're positive if you have individuals in your households with comorbidities.

00:26:34.000 This epidemic right now is different and it's more widespread and it's both rural and urban.

00:26:41.000 Okay, so again, she is right about this with regard to the people with comorbidities.

00:26:44.000 If my parents were not over, I would not be wearing a mask.

00:26:46.000 My wife would not be wearing a mask.

00:26:47.000 We're in our house.

00:26:48.000 I would be with my children, not wearing a mask.

00:26:50.000 Because I am 36, and my wife is a few years younger than I am.

00:26:53.000 She's a couple years younger than I am.

00:26:54.000 So this is... Again, people are taking this as everybody panic and freak out.

00:26:59.000 Okay, then Dr. Birx suggested the COVID death toll could hit 300,000 by the end of the year.

00:27:03.000 That would be horrifying, obviously.

00:27:04.000 That would be a terrible, terrible number.

00:27:06.000 It would also be necessary to break that down by age so we actually know how many excess deaths we have experienced on an age-based level.

00:27:12.000 And what is your risk?

00:27:13.000 Again, the big question here is not how many people are going to suffer.

00:27:16.000 That's an important, important question.

00:27:18.000 But the real question is, what is your personal risk in going back to work?

00:27:23.000 That's the stuff the public health experts should be talking about.

00:27:25.000 No one...

00:27:27.000 I would venture to say the number of Americans who understand numbers like 300,000, you know, if there are 300,000 deaths.

00:27:33.000 If you ask the average American how many people die a day in the United States, nobody knows that answer.

00:27:37.000 The answer, by the way, is 7,500.

00:27:38.000 About 7,500 Americans die every day in the United States, which is a pretty large number of Americans.

00:27:43.000 I mean, what that means is essentially that every single year in the United States, 2.7 million people die.

00:27:50.000 But when Berks says the COVID death toll could hit 300,000, you just look at that number in isolation, you'd think you can translate that to risk in your head.

00:27:56.000 That's not how it works.

00:27:57.000 Here's Dr. Deborah Berks talking about the overall number of deaths.

00:28:02.000 Dr. Birx, you mentioned deaths.

00:28:04.000 The former FDA Commissioner Scott Gottlieb said the U.S.

00:28:06.000 coronavirus death toll could double to 300,000 deaths by the end of the year.

00:28:11.000 Do you think that's possible?

00:28:13.000 Anything is possible if we don't have all... You know, public health is called public health because it has a public component.

00:28:20.000 And we need all of the public to help us get control of this virus.

00:28:25.000 And again, the notion that simply stating raw numbers or putting out vague data like, well, something bad could happen, that is not helpful, not in the slightest.

00:28:37.000 Scott Gottlieb, who again has been a guest on the show.

00:28:39.000 These people have been guests on my shows, okay?

00:28:40.000 So I really respect their opinions, and they have more data than I am, which is why it's very frustrating when I feel like the data they are conveying is actually less specific than the data they've conveyed on my own shows.

00:28:49.000 And honestly, some of that I gotta put on the media.

00:28:51.000 We're not asking the only questions that people truly care about.

00:28:53.000 What is the risk to me?

00:28:54.000 What is the risk to my children by age?

00:28:57.000 By comorbidity?

00:28:58.000 How do we not have that information?

00:28:59.000 What is the risk of various personal activities?

00:29:01.000 Why is it that in order for you to hear whether surfaces are transmitting this thing?

00:29:06.000 You're not getting that on Face the Nation.

00:29:08.000 You're getting that on this show.

00:29:09.000 The answer is not much. 0.99

00:29:11.000 When it comes to schooling, why is it that the only people who are discussing at length the studies are not the people at CNN who are just writing stupid chyrons? 0.73

00:29:18.000 It's people like me who are actually looking at the studies from Switzerland and Iceland and Australia. 0.92

00:29:23.000 Here's Scott Gottlieb saying we need to treat teachers as frontline workers.

00:29:27.000 We have to think of teachers as frontline workers.

00:29:29.000 Again, all of that is fine, but the notion that teachers are at inordinate risk of contracting this thing from children is nuts.

00:29:34.000 Teachers are at more risk Of getting this thing from going out to like a normal restaurant and eating indoors than they are.

00:29:39.000 Of getting it from kids by virtually all available data.

00:29:42.000 Here's Scott Gottlieb.

00:29:44.000 So there's anecdotes and experiences on both sides of this debate, I think, to counsel enough caution that if we do reopen schools, and I think we should try to, and I think many parts of the country will have that opportunity, we should take every precaution to try to prevent outbreaks.

00:29:57.000 And that also includes protecting teachers.

00:29:59.000 Teachers need to be thought of as frontline workers in these situations and given proper protective equipment and ways to keep themselves safe in the classroom.

00:30:08.000 OK, there are ways that if you are particularly vulnerable, that is the case.

00:30:11.000 But how about this? 0.77

00:30:12.000 How about for the moment, the teachers unions stop with their crap and let a bunch of younger people in the classroom to teach. 0.97

00:30:12.000 How about this? 0.97

00:30:17.000 And if you're worried, then zoom into the classroom, as my friend John Podhoretz suggested.

00:30:20.000 Now, the reason that I've gone on about this for so long here is because there's this push now for new lockdowns by a variety of different sources.

00:30:28.000 And there are people who are suggesting lockdowns, and then as an economic solution, they are suggesting that we just pay endless amounts of money.

00:30:33.000 None of this is a solution.

00:30:35.000 None of this is what was preached at the beginning.

00:30:37.000 The goalposts have shifted so wildly at this point.

00:30:39.000 And if you think that the vaccine is coming from heaven to save you, if you think that one day we're all just going to wake up and the vaccine is going to be ready, and it's going to be January 2021, and the entire American population is just going to be vaccinated, and boom, this is no longer a threat on the horizon, as opposed to this sort of becomes background noise, I don't know what to tell you.

00:30:57.000 Even the Washington Post isn't going to hold your hand on that one.

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00:33:58.000 Alrighty, so the reason I'm focusing on this is because the status quo is not sustainable.

00:34:09.000 We can't just keep spending money like this.

00:34:11.000 We cannot keep pumping out trillions of dollars in cash we don't have.

00:34:14.000 We cannot pay people to stay out of work.

00:34:15.000 This is not the way that a free economy runs.

00:34:18.000 It is not the way a free country runs, frankly.

00:34:20.000 And let's be honest, the reason that you saw millions of people in the streets over George Floyd, I would hazard to say some of that was about Real do-gooderism by a small group of people.

00:34:31.000 And some of it was, you locked us in our homes for three months and then you told us that we are doing good for the world by partying in the streets.

00:34:36.000 If you look at the video, half of it was a party.

00:34:38.000 People were doing yoga classes, people were doing dance parties, and they were being lauded for it by the media.

00:34:43.000 And it was all young people.

00:34:45.000 And then you had a spike among young people.

00:34:46.000 And you know what?

00:34:47.000 Maybe in the end, that's not such a bad thing.

00:34:48.000 A bunch of young people got it and got better.

00:34:50.000 Maybe that brings us closer to herd immunity.

00:34:52.000 Maybe it does.

00:34:53.000 Maybe that ain't all a bad thing.

00:34:54.000 Okay, but there's this idea out there that if we just wait for a vaccine.

00:34:57.000 So remember, this thing started as flatten the curve to not overwhelm the system.

00:35:00.000 So we did that.

00:35:01.000 Then it became, well, you know, we want slow spread so we don't overwhelm the system.

00:35:04.000 Okay, so we mostly did that.

00:35:06.000 Then it turned into, okay, what if we just crush the virus with lockdowns?

00:35:11.000 Not going to happen, gang.

00:35:13.000 Again, you're comparing apples to oranges when you look at places that never had a high level of seeding in the first place.

00:35:19.000 If you look at a country that only had a couple of cases, or if you look at a country that had the Asian strain of this pandemic as opposed to the European strain of this pandemic, there were two strains, one is much more infectious, then you are comparing apples to oranges.

00:35:30.000 And by the way, even in many of the places that originally had only the Asian strain, now the European strain has been reimported and you're seeing case growth.

00:35:37.000 But is the vaccine going to save us all?

00:35:38.000 According to the Washington Post, quote, In the public imagination, the arrival of a coronavirus vaccine looms large.

00:35:44.000 It's the neat Hollywood ending to the grim, agonizing uncertainty of everyday life in a pandemic.

00:35:48.000 But public health experts are discussing amongst themselves a new worry that hopes for a vaccine may be soaring too high.

00:35:54.000 The confident depiction by politicians and companies that a vaccine is imminent and inevitable may give people unrealistic beliefs about how soon the world can return to normal and could lead to resistance to simple strategies that can damp down transmission and save lives in the short term.

00:36:08.000 I would also say that if you are of the belief a vaccine is absolutely imminent, this will also lead you to believe that you can hide in your home and be paid by the government until the vaccine comes.

00:36:18.000 By the way, I have much more faith in therapeutics than I do in a vaccine.

00:36:21.000 I have a lot of faith in therapeutics.

00:36:23.000 We've already seen the hospital death rate drop by like 80% according to Oxford.

00:36:28.000 Because of drugs like remdesivir, because of simple tactics like not using ventilators nearly as often, by using machines that can measure your oxygen levels as soon as you get into the hospital so we know faster exactly what is going on with you.

00:36:42.000 And there are certain treatments that have just gotten better.

00:36:44.000 There are new therapeutics that are set to come online.

00:36:46.000 I know Israel is examining a therapeutic right now that's already FDA approved that they say could theoretically reduce the impact of coronavirus down to essentially a common cold, which would mean this is over.

00:36:57.000 You know, there are therapeutics that could come along here, but counting on the vaccine is like the magic day.

00:37:02.000 That is a mistake.

00:37:03.000 According to the Washington Post, two coronavirus vaccines entered the final stages of human testing last week, a scientific speed record that prompted top government health officials to utter words such as historic and astounding.

00:37:15.000 Pharmaceutical executives predicted to Congress in July that vaccines may be available as soon as October or before the end of the year.

00:37:21.000 As the plotline advances, so do expectations.

00:37:23.000 If people can just muddle through a few more months, the vaccine will land, the pandemic will end, everyone can throw their masks away.

00:37:28.000 But best-case scenarios have not materialized throughout the pandemic, and experts foresee a long path ahead.

00:37:34.000 Yonatan Grad, an assistant professor of infectious diseases and immunology at Harvard University T.H.

00:37:38.000 Chan School of Public Health says, it seems to me unlikely that a vaccine is an off switch or a reset button, or you go back to pre-pandemic times.

00:37:45.000 Or as Columbia University virologist, Angela Rasmussen puts it, it's not like we're going to a land in Oz.

00:37:51.000 The declaration that a vaccine has been shown safe and effective will be the beginning, not an end.

00:37:54.000 Deploying the vaccine to people in the U.S.

00:37:56.000 and around the world will test and strain distribution networks, the supply chain, public trust, global cooperation.

00:38:01.000 It will take months or more likely years to reach enough people to make the world safe.

00:38:05.000 For those who do get a vaccine, as soon as shots become available, protection won't be immediate.

00:38:09.000 It takes weeks for the immune system to call up full platoons of disease-fighting antibodies.

00:38:14.000 Many vaccine technologies will require a second shot weeks after the first to raise immune defenses.

00:38:18.000 Immunity could be short-lived or partial.

00:38:21.000 Well then, it seems to me that the media's focus on the vaccine and the idea that a vaccine is going to be the be-all end-all has been deeply irresponsible, has it not?

00:38:29.000 I mean, it seems like maybe we should have known this up front so that we can make provision for the now.

00:38:34.000 Would that not be a smart thing to do?

00:38:36.000 A vaccine that mainly lessens the severity of the disease might be directed at older people and others at greatest risk for the worst outcomes.

00:38:44.000 One that prevents infections well but doesn't work as well in older people might be directed to younger people.

00:38:48.000 We just don't know, is the bottom line.

00:38:50.000 According to Paul Offit, director of the Vaccine Education Center at Children's Hospital of Philadelphia, he says, if you're talking about throwing arms around each other sitting with 67,000 people at a Philadelphia Eagles game, I'd imagine that would take a couple of years.

00:39:03.000 A couple of years.

00:39:06.000 Again, the notion that we are going to be locked down until a magical vaccine comes is just not correct.

00:39:13.000 It is just not right.

00:39:15.000 You know who knows it's just not right?

00:39:16.000 The German population.

00:39:18.000 So, there's been a lot of talk about the evils of anti-lockdown protests in the United States.

00:39:21.000 You saw this from the media.

00:39:22.000 Look at these barbarian anti-lockdown protesters. 0.96

00:39:26.000 We're only losing their life savings and their businesses and their feelings of empowerment and freedom in the United States. 0.98

00:39:33.000 Those are those crazy people.

00:39:35.000 By the way, 15,000 restaurants apparently have now shut and will not reopen. 0.78

00:39:38.000 That is a lot of dead dreams right there.

00:39:40.000 That is a lot of unemployed people. 0.88

00:39:42.000 But if you protested in the United States, the media declared that you just wanted to kill Grandma.

00:39:46.000 If you protested for George Floyd, based on the statistical anomaly George Floyd represented, and based on the idea that black people are an existential threat in the United States, the media celebrated you while you violated all pandemic rules. 0.74

00:39:57.000 If you went to Grandma's funeral, then you were selfish.

00:39:59.000 If you went to celebrate John Lewis's life, you were good, because John Lewis is an important figure.

00:40:04.000 If you went to a funeral for Grandma, then you were very, very bad. 0.51

00:40:08.000 And mostly, if you're an anti-lockdown protester, you're basically akin to a terrorist because you were stumping for grandma to die.

00:40:13.000 So what do you make of Berlin exactly?

00:40:15.000 According to the BBC, around 20,000 people joined a Berlin protest on Saturday.

00:40:21.000 Organizers had billed the event as a day of freedom from Germany's restrictive lockdown measures.

00:40:25.000 That includes a mandatory masking order.

00:40:28.000 Protesters, the outlet noted, carry signs that said things like, we are being forced to wear a muzzle because of the mask mandate.

00:40:34.000 A seemingly surprised BBC, according to Daily Wire, said some participants were from the far right.

00:40:39.000 Some were conspiracy theorists who don't believe that COVID-19 exists.

00:40:41.000 Others were ordinary people who simply object to the government's approach to the pandemic.

00:40:44.000 By the way, you can always tell by the media coverage which side they are on.

00:40:47.000 When it's a protest that breaks into riots that shut down all of Los Angeles County for a week, it's mostly peaceful.

00:40:53.000 When there's an anti-lockdown protest that contains a few nuts carrying I-don't-believe-in-COVID-19 signs, then you lead with that.

00:41:01.000 Few of the marchers wore masks or maintained strict social distancing in accordance with Germany's anti-coronavirus restrictions.

00:41:06.000 Police broke up the protest.

00:41:09.000 There is an uptick in Germany that is happening right now.

00:41:12.000 There's an uptick in Spain as well.

00:41:14.000 The Wall Street Journal pointed out that there's been an uptick in Spain.

00:41:17.000 They reported 2,255 new cases on Friday following the report of 2,615 new cases on Thursday.

00:41:23.000 And again, just like in the United States, it's mostly affecting younger people.

00:41:28.000 So, People are not meant to live like this, nor will they live like this.

00:41:32.000 Now the media are in a comfortable perch.

00:41:34.000 Most members of the media, they live in bubbles.

00:41:36.000 I know because I'm a member of the media.

00:41:37.000 You can create a bubble around yourself.

00:41:39.000 You're mostly dealing with other people who have the capacity to lock down.

00:41:42.000 You never have to deal with the proletariat, you know, the people who take buses to work. 1.00

00:41:47.000 You don't have to deal with those people.

00:41:49.000 And so if those people lose their jobs, well, you know, we always have government programs for them.

00:41:53.000 This is how you end up with Martha Raddatz on ABC News, challenging Steve Mnuchin, the Treasury Secretary.

00:41:58.000 Steve Mnuchin said, if you keep paying people $600 a week not to work, they're not going to work.

00:42:02.000 And Martha Raddatz is like, are you really?

00:42:04.000 Really?

00:42:05.000 You think they're just going to stay home?

00:42:08.000 Yes, that's called an incentive, Martha.

00:42:09.000 Here's Martha Raddatz not understanding basic human rationales. 1.00

00:42:15.000 There's no question, in certain cases, where we're paying people more to stay home than to work, that's created issues in the entire economy.

00:42:25.000 But let me just say you have to look at all these things.

00:42:27.000 I want to interrupt you there for just one second.

00:42:29.000 It's not all the evidence.

00:42:31.000 A Yale study from this month refutes that, saying many economists who have studied the benefits said that so far they don't see any evidence in labor market data that the payments are affecting the rate at which people are returning to work during the pandemic.

00:42:45.000 I mean, I don't even know how you would measure that.

00:42:47.000 measure that.

00:42:49.000 It's not affecting the rate at which people return to work.

00:42:52.000 First of all, there are a lot of people I know who have not received their unemployment checks yet.

00:42:56.000 I know them.

00:42:56.000 They're eligible for it, they haven't gotten the checks, and they still have to make the rent.

00:42:59.000 So there's that.

00:43:00.000 Also, it is true, a lot of these businesses have not fully reopened.

00:43:03.000 But one of the reasons they haven't fully reopened is because they can't staff up.

00:43:06.000 And because of the lockdowns.

00:43:08.000 And Nancy Pelosi won't even further.

00:43:10.000 She claims that people will actually actively forego $600 per week to make $300 per week.

00:43:15.000 So if the government offers you $600 a week, you're gonna be like, you know what?

00:43:18.000 Government, keep your money.

00:43:19.000 I'm gonna go to work anyway for $300 a week. 0.80

00:43:21.000 Nancy Pelosi, crazy person, on ABC's This Week.

00:43:25.000 It's essential for America's working families.

00:43:28.000 And again, to condescend, to disrespect their motivation is so amazing how how insistent the Republicans are about a working family and their six hundred dollars and how cavalier they are about other money that is going out.

00:43:47.000 She's in the same person.

00:43:49.000 That's not looking down on working families.

00:43:51.000 If somebody offered me more money to stay home than to work, I would stay home, wouldn't you?

00:43:55.000 That's just basic human nature.

00:43:57.000 Because why the hell would I work when I can stay home?

00:43:59.000 It's more fun to stay home.

00:44:01.000 Mostly.

00:44:02.000 So, you know, this is it.

00:44:04.000 But again, this is this is the narrative.

00:44:06.000 The narrative is you can stay home forever until there's a vaccine and the government will pay you, which seems to me mostly political and having nothing to do with actual reality. 0.86

00:44:13.000 Meanwhile, by the way, things that you are allowed to do in the streets are you can burn crap and apparently rob people.

00:44:18.000 So this is exciting.

00:44:20.000 So over the weekend, Minneapolis police told people they informed residents of the third precinct to prepare to surrender their belongings According to a July 28th email provided to Alpha News Minnesota, also provided to the Daily Wire, the Minneapolis Police Department offered prevention tips to residents, hoping to avoid being a victim of the skyrocketing cases of robbery and carjacking that have plagued the city since George Floyd's death in May.

00:44:43.000 The email says, Robberies and carjackings have increased in the precinct.

00:44:46.000 Cell phones, purses, and vehicles are being targeted.

00:44:49.000 Some victims have been maced, dragged, assaulted, and some threatened with a gun.

00:44:53.000 Downtown and Southwest Minneapolis have seen an increase as well.

00:44:55.000 We want those who live and work here to be safe.

00:44:58.000 The email then goes on to list several tips that citizens can supposedly use to protect themselves, which also includes, like, just giving robbers what they want.

00:45:07.000 Don't fight with the criminal.

00:45:07.000 Do as they say.

00:45:09.000 Also, never leave anything of value in your car.

00:45:12.000 So well done, everybody.

00:45:14.000 Everything is going incredibly, incredibly well.

00:45:16.000 Meanwhile, the Portland rioters got wilder as some of the feds started to withdraw from Portland over the weekend.

00:45:23.000 Fox News reported more than 150 rounds were fired.

00:45:25.000 One woman was shot in Portland Friday night, while protesters on Saturday, some of whom appeared to impersonate press, threw glass bottles and shined lasers at city police officers sent to quell the nighttime unrest witnessed for more than two months straight.

00:45:40.000 Some members of the media tried to pretend that this wasn't happening.

00:45:43.000 The New York Times' Nicholas Kristof claimed that peace had broken out.

00:45:46.000 Mostly peacefulness.

00:45:48.000 Peacefulness intensifying.

00:45:50.000 Everywhere.

00:45:52.000 Our wonderful media telling you that lockdowns are possible forever, we can continue to just pay money, and also riots don't exist that are figment of your imagination.

00:45:58.000 Meanwhile, by the way, anarchists in Portland finally got to what they've actually wanted to do for a while.

00:46:02.000 They were just burning copies of the Bible.

00:46:04.000 Book burning.

00:46:05.000 They're really just going for it now.

00:46:07.000 They burned an American flag and they burned books.

00:46:09.000 These are the good guys, according to the media.

00:46:11.000 These are the ones who are standing for the sort of change America needs to see.

00:46:14.000 Burning the Bible.

00:46:17.000 I'm sure this is all going to end perfectly, perfectly well.

00:46:21.000 Okay, so what implications does all this have for the election?

00:46:24.000 Well, here's the thing.

00:46:27.000 President Trump has a lot that he can run on.

00:46:29.000 It's gonna require him to actually be focused, as I've been saying for a while.

00:46:33.000 But it seems like there's a new movement out there, and it's a very weird, odd, strange movement, and that is to cosplay revolution.

00:46:41.000 Over the weekend, there's this new narrative that has emerged, and it's real weird and it's a little scary, of Democrats and members of the media suggesting that if Trump Doesn't win.

00:46:49.000 He's going to be forced to leave by the military.

00:46:51.000 And it's like at this point, they're sort of rooting for a revolution. 0.98

00:46:54.000 Now, listen, I think that it was idiotic and horrible of Trump last week to essentially suggest that we should postpone the election or that he could postpone the election. 1.00

00:47:03.000 That was idiotic, obviously. 1.00

00:47:04.000 But do I really believe that if Trump loses, he ain't gonna vacate the White House and we're gonna end with like an armed standoff at the White House, a la the coup in the Soviet Union against Mikhail Gorbachev or something? 1.00

00:47:15.000 Like, is that where I think this is going?

00:47:17.000 No, I don't think this is where this is going, but Democrats seem like eager for this.

00:47:21.000 James Clyburn, who's very, very radical, over the weekend, congressman from South Carolina, saying that if Trump loses, he's not gonna peacefully transfer power.

00:47:28.000 It's that they're rooting for chaos and dissolution.

00:47:34.000 I believe very strongly that this guy never had any idea about being one to peacefully transfer power.

00:47:45.000 I don't think he plans to leave the White House.

00:47:48.000 He doesn't plan to have fair and unfettered elections.

00:47:52.000 OK, this is crazy talk, but if this is if you have created such a villain in the president of the United States that it allows you to say lockdown forever, if it allows you to say that kneeling for the national anthem is good and burning flags is good and burning Bibles is good and that he's such a threat to democracy, he's never going to leave the White House.

00:48:09.000 I mean, that does allow you to get away with nearly anything.

00:48:11.000 April Ryan, journalist.

00:48:12.000 Journalist, pseudo journalist.

00:48:14.000 She said over the weekend that Trump, she also put this out there, that Trump won't leave.

00:48:19.000 And what a journalistic heroine is April Ryan. 0.99

00:48:20.000 When Trump went after her, obviously he was only going after her on the basis of race, not on the fact, not on the basis of the fact that she's a garbage journalist. 0.99

00:48:27.000 Here's April Ryan. 0.98

00:48:28.000 Maya Angelou said, if they show you who they are, believe them.

00:48:32.000 The president has said before in many tweets that he wasn't going.

00:48:37.000 He said it months ago.

00:48:38.000 Joe Biden even acknowledged it.

00:48:39.000 And it's real.

00:48:40.000 So there's going to be a split screen on January 20th.

00:48:44.000 2021.

00:48:46.000 If Joe Biden is now going to be the 46th president of the United States, you will have him being inaugurated and watching police and armed forces trying to pull Donald Trump out of the White House.

00:48:57.000 I cannot wait for that split screen.

00:48:59.000 No wonder she can't wait for that split screen. 1.00

00:49:01.000 Again, this is the fantasy that Democrats are living in.

00:49:04.000 Because if Donald Trump is the kind of guy who needs to be pulled out of the White House this way, it justifies all the nastiness, all the bad policy, all the nonsense that's been going on the last few months in the United States.

00:49:12.000 There's only one problem.

00:49:13.000 Trump ain't that?

00:49:14.000 And the situation in the United States right now?

00:49:18.000 is untenable, no matter who is in the White House.

00:49:21.000 Okay, we'll be back here later today with two additional hours of content.

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The Ben Shapiro Show - August 03, 2020

Are We Now In A Covid Panic? | Ep. 1065

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