The Ben Shapiro Show - Barr Brawl | Ep. 771

00:00:00.000 Special Counsel Robert Mueller apparently complained to Attorney General William Barr, and now Democrats are all mad about it.

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00:00:07.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

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00:00:10.000 Okay, so today's episode is titled Bar Brawl, and it is indeed a brawl over William Barr.

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00:00:21.000 We'll get to all of that in just one second.

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00:01:39.000 All right, so controversy, controversy.

00:01:41.000 A day of controversy.

00:01:43.000 Democrats in the media, but I repeat myself, are very upset at Attorney General William Barr.

00:01:48.000 Deeply upset at Attorney General William Barr.

00:01:51.000 Why, you ask?

00:01:51.000 Why would they be upset at the Attorney General?

00:01:53.000 After all, the Attorney General simply provided a while back, a month ago, a month and a half ago, A four-page synopsis of the findings of the Mueller Report.

00:02:02.000 And then we actually got to see the Mueller Report, all 448 pages of it.

00:02:06.000 And it turns out that Attorney General Barr accurately summarized the conclusions of the Mueller Report, which is exactly what he said he was doing.

00:02:13.000 You don't have to take anybody's word for it.

00:02:14.000 You can read the Mueller Report.

00:02:16.000 You can also read Barr's letter.

00:02:18.000 So where's the controversy?

00:02:20.000 Ah, apparently Robert Mueller was very upset, very mad, that William Barr's original synopsis of the findings did not include the mood of Robert Mueller's team.

00:02:32.000 In the summary.

00:02:33.000 I kid you not.

00:02:34.000 He's whining.

00:02:35.000 Robert Mueller.

00:02:36.000 Listen, I've been very fair to Robert Mueller.

00:02:38.000 I've been suggesting for years, literally years, that Robert Mueller is an honest broker, that we ought to let him do his job.

00:02:45.000 And when this was all done, he had done his job.

00:02:48.000 He had done a thorough investigation, not only of Russian collusion, of which there was none, but also a thorough investigation of supposed obstruction of justice.

00:02:57.000 And it turns out there was nothing prosecutable there.

00:02:59.000 And that's what Barr said.

00:03:01.000 He said, listen, there's no evidence of collusion.

00:03:03.000 That is Mueller's finding.

00:03:04.000 Also, he says in the letter itself, the William Barr letter itself suggests that Robert Mueller did not make a finding on obstruction of justice.

00:03:12.000 They declined to make a finding on obstruction of justice.

00:03:15.000 And that in the end, the Attorney General declined to prosecute because the evidence was not sufficient to sustain a prosecution.

00:03:20.000 That is what the Barr letter says.

00:03:23.000 Bottom line, Democrats in the media don't like that that's what the Mueller report said, and they can't blame Mueller because they've been buying votive candles of him for years, and they don't want to sell those things on eBay.

00:03:31.000 So instead, they're going to suggest that William Barr is the big baddie behind it all.

00:03:35.000 He's the guy who hid things from the American public.

00:03:38.000 He lied to us all.

00:03:39.000 Now you may be wondering, How did he lie when three weeks after the release of his letter, he then released the entire underlying report, which you can read, and is public, and is on the bestseller list, and you can buy from Amazon in print edition?

00:03:54.000 How is that a lie?

00:03:55.000 It's the worst lie ever. 1.00

00:03:56.000 If he's lying, that's the dumbest, stupidest lie ever. 1.00

00:04:00.000 So, I read a book, and then I decide I'm gonna write a review of the book. 1.00

00:04:04.000 So I write a review of the book, and the book is publicly available.

00:04:07.000 Now you can say that I mischaracterized the book in my initial review, That's fine, we can have arguments over that, but to say that I lied about the book when the book is publicly available, particularly if I'm in a government position, I'm not just a reviewer.

00:04:21.000 I'm in a government position and it's my job to summarize the findings.

00:04:24.000 And the findings do match up with the findings of the Mueller Report.

00:04:28.000 That is not a lie.

00:04:29.000 Here's what's really going on here.

00:04:31.000 Robert Mueller is pissy.

00:04:32.000 He's mad today.

00:04:33.000 He's mad because his report is really about President Trump's impeachment.

00:04:38.000 His report is that he doesn't like President Trump and that President Trump is a very mean bad man who says bad things about people and then tries to manipulate things behind the scenes but fails.

00:04:47.000 That is what Mueller's report is about.

00:04:49.000 Not that Trump was engaged in criminally prosecutable activity.

00:04:52.000 Not that Trump was engaged in something that would result in an obstruction of justice charge.

00:04:56.000 But that Trump was engaged in things that Robert Mueller and his team don't like, and that Barr's initial summary of the report didn't include all those things in his summary.

00:05:04.000 Which is not William Barr's job.

00:05:07.000 So basically, what Mueller wanted is he wanted to have it both ways.

00:05:11.000 He wanted to completely abdicate by not suggesting an obstruction of justice charge.

00:05:16.000 And then he wanted Barr to do his dirty work for him by releasing Mueller's summary publicly to humiliate the president but not prosecute him, which is not the job of the special counsel.

00:05:26.000 The job of the special counsel is to investigate criminal activity.

00:05:30.000 It is not to investigate and publicize mean activity or embarrassing activity.

00:05:34.000 That is not inside his mandate.

00:05:36.000 His mandate is to investigate criminal activity.

00:05:39.000 And if he didn't find any, then you don't get to whine when someone says there was no criminal activity that was found here.

00:05:45.000 Lots of embarrassing stuff, sure.

00:05:47.000 And we got to read all of it!

00:05:48.000 It's not as though Barr has buried the report.

00:05:50.000 The report, again, has been read by, apparently by poll numbers, 3% of Americans, which is a pretty large number of people reading a particular report.

00:05:58.000 Now the reason all this is cropping up again is because of a bombshell Washington Post report.

00:06:04.000 That came out last night.

00:06:05.000 Now, you can tell that this thing is all staged because William Barr was set to testify in front of the Senate Judiciary Committee this morning.

00:06:11.000 And in fact, he did testify in front of the Senate Judiciary Committee this morning.

00:06:16.000 But before that happened, before that happened, late last night, there was a report, a bombshell report from the Washington Post.

00:06:23.000 And this bombshell report from the Washington Post was titled, Mueller complained to Barr about memo on key findings.

00:06:30.000 Now, what you would take away from that headline is that Mueller complained to Barr about the memo's key findings.

00:06:36.000 That somehow, Barr had not properly summarized the key findings of the Mueller report.

00:06:42.000 But that is not what the Washington Post report itself actually says.

00:06:45.000 Here's what the Washington Post report itself actually says.

00:06:48.000 Special Counsel Robert Mueller wrote a letter in late March complaining to Attorney General William Barr that a four-page memo to Congress describing the principal conclusions of the investigation into President Trump did not fully capture the context nature and substance of Mueller's work, according to a copy of the letter reviewed Tuesday by the Washington Post.

00:07:05.000 I do have a full copy of the letter, which I will read to you in a second because we always bring you all the information you need to know, even if you disagree.

00:07:10.000 The letter and a subsequent phone call between the two men reveal the degree to which the longtime colleagues and friends disagreed as they handled the legally and politically fraught task of investigating the president.

00:07:22.000 Democrats in Congress are likely to scrutinize Mueller's complaints to Barr as they contemplate the prospect of opening impeachment proceedings and mull how hard to press for Mueller himself to testify publicly.

00:07:32.000 Well, they obviously want Mueller to testify publicly because now they have information that Mueller would like to crap on the president.

00:07:37.000 I mean, that's basically what this letter shows.

00:07:40.000 At the time Mueller's letter was sent to Barr on March 27th, Barr had days prior announced that Mueller did not find a conspiracy between the Trump campaign and Russian officials seeking to interfere in the 2016 presidential election.

00:07:51.000 In his memo to Congress, Barr also said that Mueller had not reached a conclusion about whether Trump had tried to obstruct justice, but that Barr had reviewed the evidence and found it insufficient to support such a charge.

00:08:01.000 All of which is perfectly accurate.

00:08:03.000 How do we know that that's perfectly accurate?

00:08:05.000 Because the report is available!

00:08:06.000 For the ninth time, you can read the report!

00:08:09.000 You're not burying something if it's right here.

00:08:12.000 If I kill somebody and then I leave the body in the middle of the street, that is not me burying the body.

00:08:19.000 The body is in public view.

00:08:21.000 The report is in public view.

00:08:24.000 This is the worst cover-up of all time, in other words.

00:08:27.000 Days after Barr's announcement, Mueller wrote the previously undisclosed letter to the Justice Department, laying out his concerns in stark terms that shocked senior Justice Department officials, according to people familiar with the discussions.

00:08:37.000 Ooh, anonymous sources.

00:08:39.000 I wonder who they could be.

00:08:40.000 Might they be, I don't know, people in Mueller's team?

00:08:43.000 The most honest team of all time?

00:08:45.000 Mueller wrote, Because it didn't include all the mood music.

00:08:47.000 In other words, it just had the bottom line.

00:08:49.000 It just had the bottom, stark line.

00:08:50.000 No collusion.

00:08:51.000 did not fully capture the context, nature, and substance of this office's work and conclusions.

00:08:55.000 Because it didn't include all the mood music, in other words.

00:08:58.000 It just had the bottom line.

00:08:59.000 It just had the bottom stark line.

00:09:01.000 No collusion.

00:09:02.000 No evidence necessary to sustain an obstruction prosecution.

00:09:08.000 But it didn't include, you know, the mood music.

00:09:08.000 Done.

00:09:10.000 It didn't include the Kenny G of the Mueller report.

00:09:13.000 It didn't include the rose petals strewn across the floor for the Democratic impeachers to find.

00:09:19.000 Mueller wrote, There is now public confusion about critical aspects of the results of our investigation.

00:09:23.000 This threatens to undermine a central purpose for which the Department appointed the Special Counsel, to assure full public confidence in the outcome of the investigations.

00:09:31.000 The letter made a key request that by release the 448-page report's introductions and executive summaries and it made initial suggested redactions for doing so, according to Justice Department officials.

00:09:40.000 A spokesman for Mueller declined to comment.

00:09:43.000 Justice Department officials said on Tuesday they were taken aback by the tone of Mueller's letter and that it came as a surprise to them that he had such concerns.

00:09:50.000 Until they received the letter, they believed Mueller was in agreement with them on the process of reviewing the report and redacting certain types of information, a process that took several weeks.

00:09:58.000 Barr has testified to Congress previously that Mueller declined the opportunity to review his four-page memo to lawmakers that distilled the essence of the special counsel's findings.

00:10:07.000 In his letter to Barr, Mueller wrote that the redaction process need not delay release of the enclosed materials.

00:10:11.000 Release at this time would alleviate the misunderstandings that have arisen and would answer congressional and public questions about the nature and outcome of our investigation.

00:10:21.000 So, buried in paragraph 14.

00:10:23.000 of this story, all the way down in paragraph 14, is the key element of the story, and the only element that actually matters.

00:10:31.000 A day after Mueller sent his letter to Barr, the two men spoke by phone for about 15 minutes, according to law enforcement officials.

00:10:37.000 In that call, Mueller said he was concerned that media coverage of the obstruction investigation was misguided and created public misunderstandings about the office's work, according to Justice Department officials.

00:10:49.000 In other words, what Mueller was really concerned about was not what Barr had written, but what everyone was taking away from what Barr had written.

00:10:56.000 Presumably, he was mad that a lot of the media coverage was about Trump being exonerated.

00:11:00.000 Mueller felt that he wasn't really exonerated.

00:11:02.000 Mueller felt that there was a lot of underlying embarrassing material, and that if Barr had just said, Note, a lot of underlying embarrassing material that all of this could have been avoided.

00:11:11.000 That is not Barr's job.

00:11:13.000 He is the Attorney General.

00:11:14.000 His job is to prosecute or to decline prosecution.

00:11:20.000 In other words, he was very, very upset and very, very mad about the obstruction stuff, but he didn't care.

00:11:29.000 He didn't care that Barr had summarized his findings on Russian collusion by saying there's no Russian collusion.

00:11:35.000 Barr has testified previously he did not know whether Mueller supported his conclusion on obstruction.

00:11:40.000 So Barr has not lied anywhere in here.

00:11:42.000 He's correct.

00:11:43.000 Barr didn't know whether Mueller supported his conclusion on obstruction because Mueller didn't come to a conclusion on obstruction.

00:11:50.000 This is Mueller's fault, not Barr's, in other words.

00:11:53.000 When Barr pressed Mueller on whether he thought Barr's memo to Congress was inaccurate, Mueller said he did not.

00:12:00.000 Okay, let's underline and bold that.

00:12:02.000 When Barr pressed Mueller on whether he thought Barr's memo to Congress was inaccurate, Mueller said he did not, but felt that the media coverage of it was misrepresenting the investigation.

00:12:10.000 Officials said, Wow.

00:12:13.000 Wow. 0.99

00:12:14.000 So in other words, the media sucks at their job, and therefore the media are now going to blame William Barr for them sucking at their job. 0.97

00:12:20.000 Because people inaccurately covered Barr's letter and stretched it in one direction or the other. 0.78

00:12:25.000 Thus, Muller was mad, and thus it's Barr's fault.

00:12:28.000 Amazing.

00:12:29.000 In a second, we'll get to more of this, because I want to break this down in full.

00:12:32.000 I think this is Muller's fault.

00:12:33.000 Really, I think this is Muller's problem and Muller's fault.

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00:13:41.000 Okay, so.

00:13:42.000 In other words, even according to the Washington Post report itself, Mueller doesn't think that Barr did anything wrong.

00:13:49.000 He just doesn't like that Barr didn't include the mood music.

00:13:53.000 He didn't include the wafting scented candles.

00:13:57.000 He didn't include the tone and the tenor.

00:13:59.000 He didn't include the shading and the substance.

00:14:02.000 That's what he didn't include.

00:14:04.000 The actual conclusions, he was right, of course. 0.98

00:14:06.000 But he didn't include any of the stuff that Mueller really wanted him to include, which was the seething undertone of disdain for the president.

00:14:12.000 That's what he wanted in there.

00:14:14.000 Which is obvious from the Mueller report. 0.85

00:14:15.000 When you read the Mueller report, the second half of the Mueller report is basically, God, this guy Trump, he's terrible. 0.98

00:14:20.000 He's terrible.

00:14:21.000 I wish we could prosecute him, but you know, we can't really.

00:14:24.000 So we're just going to, instead of us just saying we can't prosecute him, we're going to just throw that to Barr.

00:14:28.000 And then it's on Barr if Barr doesn't prosecute him. 1.00

00:14:31.000 But really, we don't like the guy and he's a jerk. 0.99

00:14:33.000 And then Barr writes, okay, so I'm not prosecuting him. 1.00

00:14:35.000 And Mueller's like, well, why didn't you include the fact he's a jerk? 0.98

00:14:39.000 Why didn't you say all the stuff we wanted you to? 1.00

00:14:40.000 About how he's mean, and petty, and ridiculous.

00:14:44.000 Why didn't you include all that stuff? 0.94

00:14:45.000 And Barr's sitting there like, well that's not my job, I'm the Attorney General.

00:14:48.000 I am not, in fact, your third grade teacher who is summarizing your beautiful essay on Alice in Wonderland.

00:14:55.000 Yes, I read Alice in Wonderland when I was in third grade. 0.97

00:14:57.000 In any case, This is the push from the media and it is sheer garbage. 0.98

00:15:02.000 It is not true. 0.97

00:15:03.000 It is not true.

00:15:04.000 William Barr did not lie anywhere here.

00:15:06.000 What happened is that people... Here's the real truth.

00:15:08.000 Democrats, media, they're angry at Robert Mueller.

00:15:11.000 They cannot direct their anger at Robert Mueller and so they've misdirected to William Barr.

00:15:14.000 Okay, so the New York Times is reporting right now that the special counsel pushed Attorney General William Barr two times to release more of his investigative findings in late March, after Barr outlined the inquiry's main conclusions in a letter to Congress.

00:15:27.000 Citing a gap between Barr's interpretation and Mueller's report, according to that letter that we are talking about, the letter revealed deep concern about how Mr. Barr handled the initial release of the special counsel's findings.

00:15:38.000 And we have the text of the letter.

00:15:39.000 So here is what Mueller actually wrote in full.

00:15:43.000 It says, Dear Attorney General Barr, I previously sent you a letter dated March 25th, 2019 that enclosed the introduction and executive summary for each volume of the special counsel's report marked with redactions to remove any information that potentially could be protected by federal rule of criminal procedure 6E.

00:15:58.000 that concern declination decisions that's the declination to to determine or related to a charged case we also had marked an additional two sentences for review and have now confirmed that these sentences can be released publicly accordingly the enclosed documents are in a form that can be released to the public consistent with legal requirements and department policies i am requesting that you provide these materials to congress and authorize their public release at this time and then here is the here is the part that everybody is honing in on as we stated

00:16:25.000 stated in our meeting of March 5th and reiterated to the department early in the afternoon of March 24th, the introductions and executive summaries of our two-volume report accurately summarize this office's work and conclusions.

00:16:34.000 The summary letter the department sent to Congress and released to the public late in the afternoon of March 24th did not fully capture the context, nature, and substance of this office's work and conclusions.

00:16:44.000 Well, it wasn't up to Barr to summarize their work and conclusions.

00:16:48.000 It was just up to him to summarize the conclusions, which is what he said.

00:16:51.000 The entire letter says this is not a full summary of a 450-page report.

00:16:56.000 It is just saying, no collusion, no prosecutable obstruction.

00:17:00.000 Mueller continues, we communicated that concern to the department on the morning of March 25th.

00:17:04.000 There is now public confusion about critical aspects of the results of our investigation.

00:17:08.000 This threatens to undermine a central purpose for which the department appointed the special counsel to assure the public confidence in the outcome of the investigations.

00:17:16.000 While we understand that the department is reviewing the full report to determine what is appropriate for public release, a process that our office is working with you to complete, that process need not delay release of the enclosed materials.

00:17:27.000 Release at this time would alleviate the misunderstandings that have arisen and would answer congressional and public questions about the nature and outcome of our investigation.

00:17:35.000 In other words, Mueller wanted them to release his summary because his summary said all the mean stuff about Trump.

00:17:40.000 And Barr said, I don't want to release that summary because that summary is going to confuse people.

00:17:44.000 Instead, people need the bottom line.

00:17:46.000 Trump ain't going to jail for this stuff.

00:17:47.000 Trump ain't being prosecuted for this stuff.

00:17:50.000 And then, instead of your characterization of your own report, they can just read the report itself.

00:17:55.000 Where is the cover-up?

00:17:56.000 The report is fully available.

00:17:59.000 And this is what Barr testified to this morning under oath.

00:18:02.000 Barr was asked about all of this and he said, listen, Robert Mueller told me that he was not really willing to prosecute President Trump and that the reason he wasn't willing to prosecute President Trump had nothing to do with the Office of Legal Counsel memo on obstruction of justice and the presidency.

00:18:18.000 He just didn't feel that he had the necessary evidence to recommend a prosecution one way or another.

00:18:22.000 He left it up to me.

00:18:23.000 Here's Barr explaining that today.

00:18:26.000 Special Counsel Mueller stated three times to us in that meeting, in response to our questioning, that he emphatically was not saying that, but for the OLC opinion, he would have found obstruction.

00:18:39.000 He said that in the future, the facts of a case against a president might be such that a special counsel would recommend abandoning the OLC opinion, but this is not such a case.

00:18:52.000 We did not understand exactly why the special counsel was not reaching a decision.

00:18:58.000 And when we pressed him on it, he said that his team was still formulating the explanation.

00:19:04.000 Okay, so in other words, Mueller was not willing to prosecute.

00:19:08.000 Mueller was not willing to recommend a prosecution.

00:19:11.000 Mueller told Barr this three separate times.

00:19:15.000 And then Mueller is bitching publicly about, oh well, and leaking to the public about, well, you guys, you didn't, in that initial letter, you didn't include all of my damaging material about President Trump.

00:19:15.000 Okay.

00:19:25.000 Here's the bottom line. 0.95

00:19:26.000 Mueller didn't have the balls to go forward with an obstruction of justice charge against the president. 0.95

00:19:30.000 That is the bottom line. 0.96

00:19:32.000 He had the authority to do it.

00:19:32.000 He could have done it.

00:19:34.000 He could have recommended prosecution.

00:19:35.000 He didn't.

00:19:36.000 Why didn't he?

00:19:37.000 Because as much as he dislikes the President of the United States, Robert Mueller, on the whole, is still an honest man.

00:19:42.000 And that means he knew that he did not have the substance necessary to sustain an obstruction of justice prosecution.

00:19:48.000 And that had nothing to do with the Office of Legal Counsel letter.

00:19:50.000 It had nothing to do with the various definitions of obstruction of justice used by William Barr, as opposed to Robert Mueller, which I discussed at the time.

00:19:57.000 Mueller's definition was very broad.

00:19:59.000 Barr's definition was more specific.

00:20:01.000 But even under Mueller's definition, he didn't feel he had the evidence necessary to go forward.

00:20:06.000 The reason that he declined to make a decision on obstruction is because he wanted to humiliate President Trump and lay out groundwork for impeachment.

00:20:13.000 You can read the report.

00:20:14.000 It is obvious from the report that that's what is going on.

00:20:16.000 And then he sent that report to Barr and Barr said, OK, well, all I need to say as attorney general is no prosecution on obstruction.

00:20:24.000 And then Miller was like, well, why didn't you include all the damaging material?

00:20:26.000 That's the stuff I want out there.

00:20:28.000 And the answer is because that is not your job.

00:20:30.000 The job of the special counsel is not to reveal to the public damaging information about people who are not being prosecuted.

00:20:37.000 In fact, that is not the job of law enforcement anywhere.

00:20:40.000 It is not the job of law enforcement to do what James Comey did to Hillary Clinton, where he revealed every detail of the investigation pointing toward her prosecution, and then said, and by the way, we're not prosecuting.

00:20:50.000 It was terrible for Hillary Clinton that he did that.

00:20:52.000 And Hillary's camp had a proper complaint. 0.91

00:20:54.000 The counter complaint on the right was, you just explained why she should be prosecuted, why aren't you prosecuting?

00:21:00.000 That, I think, was a more accurate complaint.

00:21:02.000 But if Comey wasn't going to prosecute, then spilling his gut in public about all of his feelings about Hillary Clinton, that is not the job of law enforcement.

00:21:09.000 Can you imagine if every time law enforcement investigated anyone, they just dumped out into the public all of this damaging material about people that is not prosecutable?

00:21:19.000 These are not muckraking journalists.

00:21:20.000 It's the job of journalists and congressional investigators to get to damaging material.

00:21:24.000 It is the job of our criminal justice system to get to criminal behavior.

00:21:29.000 I remember, probably a year back, there was a shooting, I believe it was in Dallas.

00:21:33.000 It was a bad shooting.

00:21:34.000 There was a police officer, an off-duty police officer, who accidentally walked into somebody else's apartment, thought that the person in the apartment was actually in her apartment, and proceeded to shoot that person to death. 0.91

00:21:45.000 The person happened to be a black person who was in his own apartment.

00:21:48.000 And then the Dallas Police Department, if I'm... I think it was Dallas, so I just want to make sure.

00:21:52.000 May be wrong here, but I'm fairly certain it was Dallas.

00:21:55.000 The Dallas Police Department then publicly released the information that this guy, who'd been shot in his own apartment for doing nothing, had pot in the apartment.

00:22:02.000 And a lot of people correctly pointed out, including me, why are you smearing the dead guy?

00:22:07.000 He didn't do anything.

00:22:09.000 Law enforcement's job is not to smear people.

00:22:11.000 Law enforcement's job is to enforce the law.

00:22:15.000 So why is Mueller so focused on smearing Trump?

00:22:18.000 And by smear, I don't mean he's saying stuff that isn't true about Trump.

00:22:22.000 It was true there was pot in this guy's apartment, too.

00:22:24.000 I'm saying that is not the job of law enforcement.

00:22:27.000 And now he's mad that Barr would not participate in this game where you humiliate the president, but you don't prosecute him.

00:22:32.000 And that's somehow Barr's fault.

00:22:34.000 If Mueller had the courage of his convictions, he would have pushed obstruction.

00:22:37.000 And if he knew that there was no obstruction, he has no complaint here.

00:22:41.000 In a second, I have a little bit more to say on this because it really is perverse.

00:22:44.000 I mean, what the Democrats are doing now with Barr is perverse.

00:22:47.000 Get to that in a second.

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00:23:58.000 Okay, so as I say, Democrats are now pushing forward with the idea that Barr must be impeached.

00:24:03.000 Based on nothing.

00:24:04.000 So here is Representative Ted Lieu.

00:24:06.000 Who's a joke of a representative out here in California.

00:24:09.000 I mean, I know the people in his district.

00:24:11.000 Here's Representative Lew, suggesting that Barr lied.

00:24:13.000 Now, he can't name the specific lie that Barr told, because Barr hasn't lied.

00:24:16.000 Doesn't matter.

00:24:17.000 Somebody must have lied somewhere, even though the report is public, guys.

00:24:21.000 There's no lie when the report is public.

00:24:23.000 There's not a cover-up.

00:24:25.000 What is he even talking about?

00:24:26.000 Here's Lew.

00:24:27.000 We know the Attorney General chooses every single word carefully.

00:24:30.000 Do you think he lied to Congress?

00:24:33.000 But let's just take a step back and see how extraordinary it is what Bill Barr did.

00:24:33.000 I do.

00:24:38.000 Not only did he write a four-page summary that misled the American people, he was then told by Robert Mueller that he misled the American people, then he lies in front of Congress, and then he does a press conference misleading the American people again.

00:24:50.000 It is incredible the actions he took.

00:24:53.000 He absolutely needs to go, and then he can apply to be White House Press Secretary where he can lie all he wants.

00:24:58.000 He didn't lie.

00:24:59.000 There is no lie.

00:25:00.000 Name the lie.

00:25:00.000 Nonetheless, you've got Don Lemon on CNN.

00:25:02.000 Very objective journalism.

00:25:03.000 Journalism everywhere.

00:25:04.000 Getting the journalism all over the place.

00:25:06.000 Here is Don Lemon on CNN explaining Barr doesn't work for the rule of law to his fellow block of wood, Chris Cuomo.

00:25:11.000 There appears to be collusion between the President of the United States and the Attorney General.

00:25:17.000 When you're supposed to be the party of the rule of law, when you have a President and the Attorney General who are not fighting for the rule of law, but who are carrying the water for indecent and inappropriate and possibly even unlawful behavior.

00:25:33.000 What is going to upset you?

00:25:34.000 What are you going to take issue with?

00:25:36.000 Is there anything?

00:25:37.000 What are you even... What?

00:25:38.000 What are you talking about? 1.00

00:25:40.000 The report is public, you idiots! 1.00

00:25:42.000 The report is public. 1.00

00:25:43.000 Everyone can read it.

00:25:45.000 I have read it.

00:25:45.000 You can read it.

00:25:46.000 If you are capable of reading English, it is possible for you to read it, right now, for free, on the Justice Department website.

00:25:53.000 The Justice Department, headed by William Barr.

00:25:57.000 Wait, what?

00:25:58.000 How are you...

00:26:00.000 I, honest to God, have no explanation for how people in the media and on the left are making the claim that Barr is working against the rule of law when he released the full report and when his original memo accurately summarizes the findings of the Mueller report, according to both your eyes and also according to Robert Mueller, the guy who's now whining about it.

00:26:19.000 Robert Mueller is only whining because what he really wanted, again, for the thousandth time today, what Robert Mueller really wanted, this was obvious from the report, was for the damaging material about Trump to take front and center stage, not the actual finding of the report.

00:26:33.000 But when it comes to criminal justice, the actual finding of the report is what matters. 0.97

00:26:37.000 The actual decision, whether to prosecute or not, is the thing that matters in the end, and you can't call it a cover-up if then you release a 450-page report replete with the president acting like a jackass. 0.91

00:26:48.000 How is that a cover-up? 0.85

00:26:50.000 You think the report makes Trump look good?

00:26:52.000 The last half of the report is all about Trump ranting and raving around the White House and throwing his wig around and stuff.

00:26:56.000 I mean, it's crazy.

00:27:00.000 That last is a John Adams reference, by the way.

00:27:01.000 That's totally insane.

00:27:03.000 And yet you see the entire Democratic Party now circulating that if there is no cover-up, they have to manufacture a cover-up.

00:27:09.000 And William Barr is obviously guilty of a cover-up when in reality there is no cover-up because you can read it.

00:27:17.000 Asked about his original letter, Barr has testified that his letter was designed to deliver the verdict of the investigation and nothing more.

00:27:24.000 Which was obvious from the text of the letter.

00:27:26.000 I read you the entire letter.

00:27:27.000 In its entirety.

00:27:28.000 I think twice on the show.

00:27:30.000 Totally crazy.

00:27:32.000 And now you've got the New York Times saying it seems pretty important for the DOJ to release the earlier Mueller letter, the one from March 25th.

00:27:39.000 We have to hear about Mueller's opinions on this stuff.

00:27:41.000 Okay, fine.

00:27:42.000 Then subpoena Mueller and have him testify. 0.99

00:27:44.000 And then we can have Mueller testify about how he thought Trump was rude and arrogant and obnoxious and terrible. 0.92

00:27:49.000 And then he can also testify, as members of his team have already testified, that there was no obstruction. 0.79

00:27:54.000 That people were not prevented from speaking with people.

00:27:57.000 That the White House was transparent with the Mueller investigation, except for specific instances named in the Mueller report.

00:28:10.000 Just insanity. 0.98

00:28:11.000 Maxine Waters, the dumbest person this side of a potato, says William Barr should resign or be impeached. 0.98

00:28:17.000 I'm always excited to hear Maxine Waters, one of the most corrupt members of Congress of the last half century, talk about when people ought to be impeached. 0.96

00:28:23.000 After she used her perch at the House Financial Services Committee to allegedly funnel money to a bank in which her husband was an investor, here's Maxine Waters explaining from her high moral perch.

00:28:33.000 Atop which, she has suggested that the L.A.

00:28:35.000 riots, which ended in some dead and probably billions of dollars in property damage, that was an uprising, according to Maxine Waters.

00:28:42.000 But I want to hear her opinions about the rule of law.

00:28:42.000 She's the light.

00:28:45.000 I think that Barr should resign.

00:28:46.000 And if he does not resign, he should be facing impeachment proceedings also.

00:28:52.000 He has abdicated on his responsibility.

00:28:54.000 He has lied.

00:28:56.000 He has used the very words coming right out of the president's mouth.

00:28:59.000 No collusion, no collusion, no collusion.

00:29:02.000 And made a decision that despite what the special counsel put into that report about obstruction of justice, he said he made the decision that he had not obstructed justice.

00:29:13.000 It is outrageous and he needs to go.

00:29:15.000 Okay, everything that you just said is an accurate summation and nothing about it is wrong.

00:29:20.000 There was no collusion.

00:29:22.000 Mueller didn't even object to that part of the of the summary letter.

00:29:26.000 And as far as Barr saying that he was not prosecuting and it was his decision, it is his decision.

00:29:30.000 He's the attorney general.

00:29:32.000 And Robert Mueller didn't make a recommendation.

00:29:35.000 Again, if Robert Mueller wanted to prosecute, he had the capacity to recommend a prosecution.

00:29:40.000 He declined to do so, which means it was now up to William Barr.

00:29:43.000 And when William Barr said, I don't have the evidence to do that.

00:29:46.000 And then Mueller says, well, you know, I kind of agree with that, but there's all this stuff over here.

00:29:50.000 I wish he had mentioned about how Trump's a big meanie.

00:29:52.000 And Barr was like, well, good news.

00:29:53.000 In four weeks, we're going to release the whole thing.

00:29:56.000 Where is the controversy here?

00:29:57.000 This is all manufactured.

00:29:59.000 Anderson Cooper, he too, journalism-ing all over the place, all over the CNN set, Anderson Cooper.

00:30:03.000 He says Barr's letter looks like a love letter, a sweet, sweet love-making letter to President Trump.

00:30:08.000 I think there's an argument in defense of Barr that says he was doing what he was supposed to do, and yes, you can argue with how he characterized it publicly in coming out.

00:30:19.000 He did characterize it, and to your point, literally repeating the words of the president, it seemed as much of a love letter to the president as possible from an attorney general.

00:30:29.000 Yeah, but he included the key line.

00:30:31.000 Which was that he couldn't, you know, establish that infrastructure does nor exonerate him.

00:30:35.000 I mean, if you were doing the soundbite, you'd lift that line right from the reporters.

00:30:39.000 Okay, well, that final, that final representation that is not being made there by Anderson Cooper, what's the name of this person?

00:30:46.000 I can't, I can never remember the name of this particular reporter.

00:30:49.000 But in any case, the reporter who's speaking at the last year is being accurate.

00:30:52.000 It's Anderson Cooper who's being inaccurate.

00:30:53.000 It's a love letter.

00:30:54.000 It's a love letter.

00:30:55.000 It's not a love letter.

00:30:56.000 It was a summary of conclusions alone.

00:31:00.000 This is such a manufactured, nonsensical controversy.

00:31:03.000 But, you know, go for it, guys.

00:31:04.000 Go for it.

00:31:05.000 It's just, it's amazing.

00:31:06.000 It's amazing.

00:31:07.000 Okay.

00:31:07.000 Meanwhile, controversy chaos continues to break out in Venezuela.

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00:34:00.000 Okay, so, on to Venezuela, because I'm sick of talking about a non-troversy, which is this bar thing.

00:34:05.000 Let's talk about an actual serious situation in Venezuela.

00:34:09.000 So, the latest in Venezuela is new protests have broken out.

00:34:13.000 Apparently, there are reports that Nicolas Maduro is basically on the ropes at this point, that Maduro is effectively waiting to be sent out of the country and back to Cuba.

00:34:25.000 And that he would have, that would have happened yesterday, except that Russia talked him out of it.

00:34:29.000 It's amazing to watch Americans, who supposedly hate Russian collusion, now collude with Russia in their interests in Venezuela.

00:34:36.000 Bunch of folks, I haven't heard a word from Bernie Sanders about Venezuela, as this is happening.

00:34:39.000 Not one from Ilhan Omar.

00:34:40.000 Not one from AOC.

00:34:42.000 Nothing.

00:34:42.000 Nada.

00:34:43.000 Zip.

00:34:44.000 Zilch.

00:34:45.000 Nothing.

00:34:46.000 Hey, that's pretty weird since people are getting run over by socialist humvees over in Venezuela right now.

00:34:51.000 It seems like a good time to talk about how maybe a popular left uprising, okay, Juan Guaido is not on the right in Venezuela.

00:34:58.000 How that might be a good thing to mention, but the Russians have basically maintained that Maduro should stay in power.

00:35:03.000 According to Secretary of State Mike Pompeo on CNN yesterday, Nicolas Maduro, the socialist evil dictator of Venezuela who has overrun all democratic boundaries, he was ready to leave.

00:35:12.000 He was on the tarmac yesterday and then Russia talked him out of it.

00:35:16.000 It's been a long time since anyone has seen Maduro.

00:35:19.000 He had an airplane on the tarmac.

00:35:20.000 He was ready to leave this morning, as we understand it, and the Russians indicated he should stay.

00:35:26.000 We think the situation remains incredibly fluid.

00:35:29.000 We know that there were senior leaders inside the Maduro government that were prepared to leave.

00:35:34.000 They told us as much over the past few weeks, and we're convinced that the Venezuelan people are going to get their democracy back.

00:35:41.000 The American left, which is still hearkening back to its glory days stumping for the Soviet Union during the Cold War, they're still arguing that America has no role whatsoever in public pressure on Venezuela.

00:35:52.000 A lot of people, isolationist right and on the left, suggesting that it's American involvement in Venezuela that's the problem.

00:35:58.000 Okay, Russia is active there.

00:36:00.000 Russia is making sure that Maduro, who's an evil dictator, stays in power with troops capable of shooting on the population.

00:36:06.000 Okay, in opposition to millions of people who have been reduced to eating dogs in one of the most oil-rich countries on planet Earth.

00:36:13.000 Cuba is active there.

00:36:15.000 So here's the choice.

00:36:16.000 This is the truth about so much of American foreign policy.

00:36:19.000 When America does not play a role, that is not left as a vacuum.

00:36:23.000 When America does not play a role, there are other powers in the world who do not have such qualms about quote-unquote imperialism, and they get involved immediately.

00:36:32.000 It is much more imperialistic for Russia to be propping up a socialist dictator who has basically centralized military command so he can shoot dissenters.

00:36:41.000 There's a difference between that and the United States saying, hey, look, a popular opposition, maybe we should lend them diplomatic support.

00:36:47.000 And yet you see the left running headlong away from this.

00:36:49.000 The latest from Venezuela is that thousands of pro-Guaido demonstrators are gathering in Caracas again, according to CNN, which, by the way, has been turned off in Venezuela.

00:36:58.000 Venezuela's government has prevented CNN from broadcasting.

00:37:01.000 So don't worry, the true threat The real threat, as we all know, to the press is right here in America.

00:37:06.000 I mean, Jim Acosta was saying as much yesterday.

00:37:09.000 Jim Acosta actually tweeted out a picture of himself reading his new audiobook.

00:37:13.000 Here's what he tweeted.

00:37:14.000 Putting my vocal cords to the test this week, recording the audio version of my book out in June.

00:37:19.000 The enemy of the people, a dangerous time to tell the truth in America.

00:37:22.000 The studio placed me in the U2 suite.

00:37:24.000 Love that because it is a dangerous time to tell the truth in America when you can be in an air conditioned suite audio reading your book from the U2 suite, actually, as your own network is being shut down in Venezuela.

00:37:35.000 Obviously, the true threat to press freedom is President Trump saying mean things to Jim Acosta because, I mean, Jim Acosta, that dude loves him some Jim Acosta.

00:37:43.000 In any case, CNN is reporting that in Venezuela, These crowds are gathering in the heart of the opposition in Venezuela's capital.

00:37:50.000 They're not showing signs of moving anywhere just yet.

00:37:54.000 Guaido tweeted today that he would see people in the streets.

00:37:57.000 He said, to our workers, we recognize the value of dignified work, which affords you well-being and progress.

00:38:01.000 Today, we know there is no salary which reaches that and that your rights and achievements are ignored.

00:38:05.000 May 1st, we accompany you in your demands.

00:38:07.000 See you in the street.

00:38:08.000 John Bolton has said that Maduro is now surrounded by scorpions in a bottle.

00:38:14.000 He said Maduro spent the day not in the company of Venezuelan forces, but surrounded by Cubans, because he doubted the loyalty of his own Venezuelan armed forces.

00:38:22.000 So the military, it seems, may be turning on Maduro, which is a very good thing.

00:38:27.000 John Bolton had said yesterday that all options are on the table, that if, for example, Maduro were to start launching missiles at his own people, the United States might get involved.

00:38:35.000 Now, let's make clear, the United States is not getting involved in Venezuela.

00:38:37.000 Trump does not want to be involved.

00:38:39.000 The administration does not want to be involved.

00:38:41.000 I know virtually everyone in the administration, this is not something they are seeking.

00:38:44.000 But, Barack Obama, everyone, every president always has all options on the table, because guess what?

00:38:49.000 When you're in the United States, all options are always on the table, just some are off to the side of the table.

00:38:54.000 We don't want to break that glass and hit the button.

00:38:57.000 If we have to, we will, but that's not something we want.

00:39:01.000 Here's John Bolton explaining all the options are on the table.

00:39:04.000 Is the US prepared to use any option, including a military option, to support North Biden?

00:39:09.000 Let me say two things to be very clear.

00:39:11.000 Number one, we want, as our principal objective, the peaceful transfer of power.

00:39:16.000 But I will say again, as the President has said from the outset, and that Nicolas Maduro and those supporting him, particularly those who are not Venezuelan, should know, is all options are on the table.

00:39:29.000 Okay, so that, you know, obviously is not something that he wants.

00:39:32.000 In a second, I'm going to get to the left's opposition to this, and it's really amazing.

00:39:34.000 So the left is happy to defend the worst people in the world in Venezuela, namely Nicolas Maduro and his allies in Cuba and Russia.

00:39:41.000 It's pretty incredible.

00:39:42.000 Ro Khanna, who's a congressperson from out in California, he suggested that America is responsible for Maduro's Humvees driving over civilian protesters yesterday.

00:39:51.000 It's America's fault, always.

00:39:53.000 According to the radical left, everything is America's fault.

00:39:55.000 It's never to America's credit when good things happen.

00:39:57.000 It's always America's fault when bad things happen.

00:40:00.000 The vice president shouldn't be interfering and inciting violence with Guaido.

00:40:05.000 What we should be doing is deferring to the Pope to have a negotiated settlement or Uruguay or Mexico.

00:40:11.000 It looks like the United States is getting, inching in to yet another bloody conflict.

00:40:16.000 And this is not going to be easy.

00:40:17.000 Venezuela is one of the most armed nations in the world.

00:40:21.000 1.6 million militias.

00:40:24.000 Okay, so this is the new claim.

00:40:35.000 The claim is that America's getting involved in a war overseas, we should leave it to the Russians in Maduro. 0.67

00:40:39.000 That's what we should do.

00:40:40.000 Now, America's not getting involved in a war over there.

00:40:42.000 We're not getting involved militarily.

00:40:44.000 That's not something, number one, we need to do.

00:40:47.000 The fact is that Venezuela is surrounded by states that do not like Nicolás Maduro because Nicolás Maduro is a threat to the region as well as to his own country.

00:40:54.000 I'm sort of amazed, though, by there are some people on the right who have been making the same sort of claim.

00:40:58.000 Why do we care about what happens in Venezuela?

00:41:00.000 So, Tucker Carlson, a guy who I really like, and I'm friends with Tucker, but Tucker is an isolationist on foreign policy, or at least largely isolationist on foreign policy.

00:41:09.000 And Tucker, last night, he started asking, so why are we even meddling in Venezuela?

00:41:13.000 What's the purpose?

00:41:13.000 I'll explain why in just a second.

00:41:16.000 When was the last time we successfully meddled in the political life of another country?

00:41:20.000 Has it ever worked?

00:41:22.000 How are those democracies we set up in Iraq and Libya and Syria and Afghanistan tonight?

00:41:27.000 How would Venezuela be different?

00:41:28.000 Please explain and take your time.

00:41:30.000 So what's the point of doing that?

00:41:32.000 So our lawmakers can feel like good people?

00:41:34.000 And if they are indeed good people, why do they seem to care more about Venezuela than they care about this country, the one that they run?

00:41:40.000 They're happy to send their military to South America at the first sign of chaos, but U.S.

00:41:43.000 troops to our own border to stem the tide of 100,000 uninvited arrivals a month?

00:41:48.000 No way, they tell us!

00:41:49.000 That's crazy talk.

00:41:50.000 Okay, well, no.

00:41:51.000 Okay, so a couple of things.

00:41:52.000 One, nobody cares about Venezuela more than they care about the United States.

00:41:56.000 Nobody is even talking about deploying military force in any serious way in Venezuela.

00:42:00.000 But why should we care?

00:42:01.000 Well, one of the things that Tucker cares about, presumably, is illegal immigration.

00:42:03.000 He's very strong on illegal immigration.

00:42:05.000 The number of Venezuelan immigrants in the United States rose from 216,000 in 2014 to 351,000 in 2017.

00:42:12.000 A growth of 61,000 in one year alone, according to migrationpolicy.org.

00:42:18.000 And that is, I believe, just legal immigrants to the United States.

00:42:21.000 That does not include illegal immigration to the United States.

00:42:23.000 One of the reasons we've seen heavy illegal immigration to the United States in recent years is specifically because of the enormous amount of chaos in South and Central America.

00:42:33.000 As far as when is the last time that the United States successfully imposed democracy?

00:42:36.000 Well, let's see.

00:42:37.000 After World War II, we did it in Germany.

00:42:39.000 We also did it in Japan.

00:42:40.000 We were successful in staving off a communist takeover of Italy in the aftermath of World War II.

00:42:44.000 South Korea is a democracy because we were involved in the Korean War.

00:42:47.000 Vietnam today would be a democracy if we had not precipitously pulled out of Vietnam. 0.91

00:42:52.000 As far as Iraq, Iraq was a functioning democracy until we decided to precipitously pull out and hand it over to Iran and ISIS. 0.93

00:42:59.000 So, Actually, the United States has a pretty solid record in a lot of these areas.

00:43:04.000 And as far as how Venezuela is different from Iraq, how Venezuela is different from Syria, I mean, there are not a lot of similarities.

00:43:10.000 Venezuela had a functioning democracy before Hugo Chavez took that democracy and turned it into a socialist dictatorship.

00:43:17.000 And in fact, the opposition in Venezuela is being put up by the National Assembly, which is a democratically elected body.

00:43:24.000 So, these are not similar in any way.

00:43:26.000 Syria has no history of democracy. 0.78

00:43:28.000 Syria has been a tribal dictatorship for decades at this point, without any history of functioning democracy.

00:43:33.000 The same is not true in Venezuela.

00:43:34.000 So, to simply equate these countries is not accurate.

00:43:38.000 And as far as American involvement, again, if we are not getting heavily involved, I fail to see why, why are you, like, what's the objection?

00:43:45.000 Is are we better off with Maduro in power in Venezuela?

00:43:48.000 Having an entrenched anti-American socialist who threatens his neighbors and serves as a launching platform for America's enemies?

00:43:57.000 Is that better than having a functioning democracy with somebody who is relatively pro-America there?

00:44:03.000 I don't see why.

00:44:04.000 What really?

00:44:07.000 Tucker, I think, is by nature somebody who doesn't want to get involved overseas, which is fine.

00:44:11.000 I don't think anybody really wants to get involved.

00:44:13.000 Nobody.

00:44:14.000 I'm not interested in getting involved militarily in Venezuela.

00:44:17.000 But to pretend that America can retreat from the world and that our enemies will not just take over territories.

00:44:21.000 I mean, this is basic Monroe Doctrine type stuff.

00:44:24.000 I mean, this has been true since the early 19th century, that America suggested that we shouldn't have foreign powers encroaching in our hemisphere because it was a threat to America's national security.

00:44:32.000 That remains true today.

00:44:34.000 You know, I wonder if Tucker would have felt the same way during the Cuban Missile Crisis.

00:44:38.000 When Russia was invading, was using the Cuban Revolution as an excuse to place missiles 90 miles from America's heartland.

00:44:46.000 90 miles from Cuba.

00:44:47.000 90 miles from Florida, rather.

00:44:48.000 But he said, why are we getting involved in Cuba?

00:44:50.000 What does this have to do with us?

00:44:51.000 Well, it has something to do with us, since they're right there.

00:44:53.000 And Venezuela has something to do with us.

00:44:55.000 And as the world grows smaller, America is involved in foreign policies that do affect us here at home, both economically and in terms of terrorism and immigration.

00:45:04.000 There are a lot of complex issues that are a lot more complicated than simply, why do we care about Venezuela and caring about Venezuela more than we do?

00:45:12.000 I just don't buy any of that.

00:45:14.000 I just don't think that that is correct.

00:45:16.000 In any case, the funniest point about Venezuela yesterday was actually made by an MSNBC reporter.

00:45:21.000 An MSNBC reporter unwittingly makes the strong case for the Second Amendment yesterday.

00:45:26.000 Pretty hilarious.

00:45:28.000 He appears to still control the military.

00:45:31.000 You have to understand in Venezuela, gun ownership is not something that is open to everybody.

00:45:36.000 So if the military have the guns, they have the power and as long as Nicolas Maduro controls the military, he controls the country.

00:45:44.000 Okay, so that is hilarious.

00:45:46.000 That is hilarious only in that that is exactly the case.

00:45:49.000 That's Kerry Sanders of MSNBC, making the case for why Americans should not give up their guns. 0.85

00:45:53.000 Because it turns out that when you give up all your guns to a centralized government, that government then controls all aspects of your life.

00:46:00.000 MSNBC, welcome to the Second Amendment Camp.

00:46:02.000 I really appreciate you joining.

00:46:04.000 Welcome to the party, gang.

00:46:05.000 Alrighty, time for some things that I like, and then some things that I hate.

00:46:08.000 So, things that I like today.

00:46:10.000 There is a great video that is out from Jonathan Sachs.

00:46:13.000 Jonathan Sachs was the Chief Rabbi of the United Kingdom.

00:46:17.000 There's a great video that he has put out.

00:46:18.000 It's a scribing video, so it's Kind of a drawn video, really neat to watch.

00:46:21.000 You should go check it out about the connection between Judaism and Israel.

00:46:24.000 What we've watched over the last several years, really over the last 15 to 20 years, is the left try and suggest that you can be in favor of the extermination of the state of Israel, but that's not anti-Semitic.

00:46:33.000 So simply getting rid of the single largest repository of Jews on planet Earth, not anti-Semitic.

00:46:39.000 Disestablishing Israel as a Jewish state, not anti-Semitic.

00:46:42.000 Rabbi Sacks blows up that notion in this five minute video.

00:46:45.000 We'll play a little clip of it and you should go check it out yourself.

00:46:49.000 How can anti-Zionism be the new anti-Semitism?

00:46:53.000 Surely there's no connection between them.

00:46:56.000 Anti-Semitism is hatred of Jews as a people, a race, an ethnic group.

00:47:01.000 Anti-Zionism is an objection to a country, a nation, a state.

00:47:06.000 What's the connection between them?

00:47:09.000 Okay, and then he goes on and explains what the connection is between them.

00:47:12.000 Watch the video.

00:47:12.000 It's a great six minute explanation that is purely intuitive and understandable and common sense about why it is that hatred of Jews has now morphed into hatred of Israel.

00:47:21.000 Bottom line is that over history, Jews have been corporately attacked.

00:47:26.000 Whether as a religion, or as a culture, or as a race, and now as a state, that's what's happening with regard to the state of Israel right now.

00:47:33.000 Okay, time for some quick things.

00:47:35.000 Actually, one more quick thing that I like.

00:47:37.000 So I do have to note here, Stacey Abrams, who has made a big fuss about how she's the actual governor of Georgia. 1.00

00:47:41.000 She is not, in fact, the governor of Georgia.

00:47:43.000 She continues to maintain that she is, but she doesn't have the intestinal fortitude to run for Senate. 0.63

00:47:49.000 So she says that she is not going to run for Senate in Georgia.

00:47:51.000 Why?

00:47:51.000 Because she understands that last time around was kind of an aberration and she'll get skunked.

00:47:55.000 Here she is explaining that she will not be a senator from Georgia.

00:47:58.000 I am announcing today that I will not be a candidate for the United States Senate.

00:48:03.000 I am so grateful for all of the support and encouragement I've received, from fellow Georgians to leaders of Congress and beyond.

00:48:10.000 However, the fights to be waged require a deep commitment to the job, and I do not see the U.S. 0.76

00:48:16.000 Senate as the best role for me in this battle for our nation's future.

00:48:20.000 But let's be clear.

00:48:21.000 I will do everything in my power to ensure Georgia elects a Democrat to the United States Senate in 2020.

00:48:27.000 Except for running, so that's not happening.

00:48:28.000 So the Democrats have lost out on a bunch of candidates who are supposedly strong candidates for Senate come 2020, which suggests they may not be as strong going into 2020 as they purport to be.

00:48:37.000 Okay, time for some things that I hate.

00:48:42.000 Okay, so Angela Davis is a former terrorist and an anti-Semite. 0.96

00:48:46.000 She's also hailed around the left as some sort of heroine.

00:48:49.000 She was almost certainly involved in the shooting of a federal judge, for which she was labeled a terrorist and put on the FBI's top ten most wanted list.

00:48:57.000 Now she wanders around campuses It's not a shock that Angela Davis, who is not a fan of the Jews, is also a fan of Ilhan Omar, who is not a fan of the Jews. 1.00

00:49:05.000 of leftist stupidity. 0.99

00:49:07.000 It's not a shock that Angela Davis, who is not a fan of the Jews, is also a fan of Ilhan Omar, who is not a fan of the Jews. 1.00

00:49:12.000 Here's Angela Davis explaining. 0.54

00:49:14.000 I am extremely proud that finally we've elected someone to Congress who speaks out in such a powerful way on behalf of black women, on behalf of Palestinians, on behalf of all people who are They're oppressed.

00:49:37.000 Angela Davis is a joke.

00:49:38.000 The fact that she is still seen as someone worthy of emulation on the left demonstrates the moral bankruptcy of the left.

00:49:44.000 She calls herself a political prisoner even though she was involved in an act of terrorism.

00:49:49.000 Because she was involved in that act of terrorism with regard to a federal judge. 0.60

00:49:53.000 She was quoted as saying of Czech dissidents, quote, of the Soviet... She was a Stalinist, Angela Davis.

00:49:58.000 And now she is an intellectual.

00:50:00.000 So she was quoted as saying of Czech dissidents, according to Mosaic, they deserve what they get. 0.97

00:50:04.000 Let them remain in prison.

00:50:06.000 According to Ellen Dershowitz, he asked for her help for Jewish refuseniks and other prisoners of conscience in the Soviet Union.

00:50:11.000 She told him, quote, She's a joy.

00:50:16.000 I'm so glad that Democrats continue to maintain that Angela Davis is a person worthy of our respect.

00:50:21.000 Okay, other things that I hate today.

00:50:22.000 So, the editorial board of the New York Times has now run an editorial about how terrible they were for running this horribly anti-Semitic cartoon.

00:50:31.000 And their editorial is actually quite good.

00:50:33.000 The editorial acknowledges that anti-semitic imagery is particularly dangerous now.

00:50:37.000 They talk about the rise in anti-semitism.

00:50:40.000 They say this is also a period of rising criticism of Israel, much of it directed at the rightward drift of its own government, some of it even questioning Israel's very foundation as a Jewish state.

00:50:48.000 We have been and remain stalwart supporters of Israel.

00:50:50.000 This is the New York Times editorial board.

00:50:55.000 No.

00:50:56.000 No, you have not.

00:50:57.000 I have an entire article in National Review today about how you have a long history of hating the state of Israel and seeking to ally with those who would destroy it.

00:51:05.000 The New York Times says, we believe that good faith criticism should work to strengthen Israel over the long term by helping it stay true to its democratic values, which is a way of saying we have always hoped to undermine the state of Israel by appealing to generalized democratic principles that don't actually apply in the way we say they apply.

00:51:19.000 Anti-Zionism, says the Times, can clearly serve as a cover for anti-Semitism.

00:51:24.000 Now, look at even the language there.

00:51:25.000 So New York Times is being hailed as, as look how honest they were.

00:51:29.000 They're coming forward.

00:51:30.000 Well, first of all, I haven't seen them change their editorial coverage of Israel.

00:51:34.000 I'm looking forward to the next 20 editorials about how Benjamin Netanyahu is the true obstacle to peace in the Middle East, and how Hamas is really the voice of an oppressed people.

00:51:43.000 But look at the language there.

00:51:44.000 Anti-Zionism can clearly serve as a cover for anti-Semitism.

00:51:48.000 And some criticism of Israel, as the cartoon demonstrated, is couched openly in anti-Semitic terms.

00:51:52.000 That phrase, anti-Zionism, can clearly serve as a cover for anti-Semitism.

00:51:56.000 No.

00:51:56.000 Anti-Zionism is anti-Semitism.

00:51:58.000 If you say that the Jews can't have a state, as opposed to Christians having many states and constituting a majority of a wide bevy of states, and that Muslims have 50-odd states, but the Jews can't have a state. 0.88

00:52:10.000 The Jews cannot exist as a corporate body, as a religious body. 0.99

00:52:13.000 They can't exist. 0.97

00:52:15.000 But that's just cover for anti-Semitism.

00:52:17.000 You don't get the problem, New York Times.

00:52:19.000 Of course they don't, because they are an anti-Zionist organization.

00:52:23.000 So, here's my feeling.

00:52:26.000 They're earning all sorts of praise, particularly from their own employees today.

00:52:29.000 I'm seeing columnists at the New York Times, shockingly, coming out in defense of the New York Times.

00:52:33.000 Look at our beautiful editorial.

00:52:35.000 How about this?

00:52:36.000 Change your coverage, and then we'll talk about whether you have figured out your anti-Semitism problem.

00:52:40.000 Okay, so we'll be back here later today with two additional hours.

00:52:43.000 There's a lot I wanted to get to on today's show that I couldn't, which is why you should subscribe, because then you can see all of it later.

00:52:48.000 Two additional hours later today.

00:52:49.000 So we'll see you then.

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00:53:18.000 Hey guys, over on the Matt Wall Show today.

00:53:20.000 Well, they've got Trump this time.

00:53:21.000 They've really got him this time.

00:53:23.000 The left now claims that a Washington Post report confirms that the Attorney General obstructed justice for Trump.

00:53:30.000 Except the only problem, of course, is that the Washington Post report confirms exactly the opposite of that.

00:53:34.000 We'll talk about it.

00:53:35.000 Also, does the President's love for tweeting Help or hurt his re-election chances.

00:53:41.000 We'll try to figure that out.

00:53:42.000 And schools in Virginia claim that there are thousands of transgender students enrolled in their schools.

00:53:48.000 If that's true, what does it actually tell us?

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