The Ben Shapiro Show - Believe All Women! (Unless It’s About Graham Platner)

00:00:00.000 Let's start off today's show by compiling a quick list of just some of the people the left says are Nazis.

00:00:06.000 Elon Musk, President Trump, Vice President Vance, Javier Millet, ICE, all of Israel, according to Hassan Piker and plenty of others.

00:00:16.000 But when there's a Democratic candidate for higher office with a literal Nazi tattoo, he is definitely not a Nazi.

00:00:23.000 That's just a great dude with some questionable body art choices.

00:00:27.000 Here is a quick montage of what Democrats have been saying about Graham Plattner.

00:00:34.000 You know, I haven't waited into that primary.

00:00:37.000 I don't believe the primary has occurred yet.

00:00:40.000 We're going to take back, we're going to beat Susan Collins and take back the Senate.

00:00:44.000 Any other subject you got?

00:00:45.000 Any other subject?

00:00:46.000 I almost never get involved in primaries outside of Virginia because I think Maine Democrats should pick their candidates.

00:00:54.000 And I don't think nationalists should pick their candidates.

00:00:56.000 We're pretty far down on the primary road here.

00:00:58.000 Senator, are you still supporting Graham Platner after the sexting scandal that's going on with him?

00:01:04.000 And I guess I have a view of redemption.

00:01:06.000 And he has unequivocally owned up to it, said that it was wrong, that he learned from it.

00:01:14.000 Well, now, in the least surprising story in human history, it turns out that the dude with the Nazi tattoo, who allegedly sexed at a dozen women while married, who was clearly registered on the grooming website Kick, who made online comments about touching himself in porta potties and why it was good when American soldiers got shot.

00:01:32.000 You're not going to believe this. 0.97

00:01:34.000 He's allegedly kind of rapey. 0.83

00:01:37.000 I know.

00:01:37.000 It's always the ones you most suspect.

00:01:39.000 We'll take a look at the never ending ballot counting in California, and we'll talk about an incredibly disturbing abortion story taking over the internet.

00:01:45.000 Plus, I will make a Knicks Spurs game two pick.

00:01:48.000 Yes, seriously, that's a thing we're going to do.

00:01:49.000 All of that and more today on The Ben Shapiro Show.

00:01:59.000 I feel like the first red flag should have been the actual Nazi tattoo. 0.99

00:02:05.000 Or maybe it should have been those Reddit comments about masturbating in porta potties. 0.98

00:02:09.000 Or maybe it could have been the registration on kick. 0.99

00:02:13.000 Or maybe it's the comments about how much you enjoyed a video of an American soldier being shot by the Taliban.

00:02:20.000 Or maybe it was the endless wheel of sexting women who are not his.

00:02:23.000 I don't know.

00:02:24.000 Were there any red flags at all?

00:02:25.000 Were there any?

00:02:26.000 I mean, how could we have ever suspected?

00:02:28.000 Well, now it's getting worse for the Democrats. 0.52

00:02:31.000 Apparently, they did Nazi.

00:02:34.000 That coming.

00:02:34.000 They were blitzkrieged by this information.

00:02:36.000 They never could have gestapoed that this would have happened.

00:02:39.000 They thought it couldn't have gone any further.

00:02:42.000 Further.

00:02:43.000 But then it did.

00:02:45.000 The New York Times has a story today about his unsettling behavior.

00:02:50.000 That is the title.

00:02:51.000 Several women who dated Graham Platt and recall unsettling behavior.

00:02:54.000 Now, when you read that headline, again, it's the New York Times, and they're just terrible.

00:02:58.000 The way they slant every story is insane.

00:03:00.000 Unsettling.

00:03:01.000 You're like, oh, unsettling.

00:03:02.000 Like he kind of stared at people a little creepy, like that.

00:03:05.000 No, it was a little more than that.

00:03:07.000 According to the New York Times, quote, in extensive conversations over the past two months, three other women who had been romantically involved with Mr. Platner offered a far more complicated assessment.

00:03:16.000 So, this is the funniest part.

00:03:18.000 Like, the entire story is couched in some people say that he was kind of rapey and also physically abusive.

00:03:26.000 Others say that he was charming and charismatic, but also demeaning to women.

00:03:31.000 Okay.

00:03:33.000 Okay, New York Times.

00:03:34.000 Okay.

00:03:36.000 They say Mr. Platner could be charming and charismatic, they were called in interviews.

00:03:39.000 But also demeaning to women.

00:03:40.000 And in at least one case, even physically threatening, he drank heavily and was regularly unfaithful.

00:03:45.000 Sounds like a nice person.

00:03:47.000 Okay, so what is the New York Times actually reporting?

00:03:49.000 First of all, you will recall that Graham Plattner said that when he got the Nazi tattoo, he did not know it was a Nazi symbol, which is not credible.

00:03:56.000 I'm sorry, when you get a giant Nazi tattoo on your chest and when you have Reddit posts recognizing German helmets, I feel like you knew that it was a Nazi tattoo.

00:04:08.000 I feel like you knew that.

00:04:09.000 And again, he continues to maintain.

00:04:11.000 In fact, that he did not know that it was a Nazi tattoo.

00:04:14.000 Here he was in October 2025, claiming he had no idea that the giant Nazi tattoo on him was, in fact, a Nazi tattoo.

00:04:22.000 We went ashore to do the thing that young Marines do, which tends to be carousing and sometimes getting tattoos.

00:04:29.000 We wanted to get something that represented our jobs, our service, fighting in Fallujah and Ramada.

00:04:34.000 Our service.

00:04:35.000 As machines. 0.90

00:04:36.000 As Nazis. 0.84

00:04:37.000 We went ashore, we found a tattoo parlor after a fair amount of heavy carousing, and we found a tattoo on the wall. 0.69

00:04:44.000 A piece of flash that looked like a terrifying skull and crossbones.

00:04:48.000 We thought it looked cool.

00:04:49.000 And so we got it. 0.75

00:04:50.000 We thought it was like a pirate, a Nazi pirate. 0.95

00:04:53.000 Ah, because a real man.

00:04:55.000 By the way, the only reason that Democrats were fine with this is because they have never identified a human in the military and they have never identified an actual Trump voter.

00:05:03.000 So this is all them looking at Graham Plattner wearing the costume and being like, probably Trump voters will like him because he has the Nazi tattoo.

00:05:12.000 By the way, he then defended this again in May 2026, like last month.

00:05:15.000 Claiming that it was the other Marines, it was everyone else's fault.

00:05:17.000 He has a giant Nazi tattoo on his chest.

00:05:19.000 He then ended up covering up in the most bizarre fashion.

00:05:23.000 Yeah, it's a skull and crossbones.

00:05:25.000 I got a skull and crossbones with a bunch of other Marines in a tattoo parlor in Croatia because skull and crossbones are things that Marines get.

00:05:35.000 Oh, it was a skull and crossbones. 0.62

00:05:36.000 It just happened to be one that, like, it was like, you know, like anyone would get, like, you know, for example, a Nazi. 0.60

00:05:42.000 Well, no, not a Nazi, but like a Nazi, like the exact same tattoo as the Nazi.

00:05:48.000 All right, coming up, we'll get to Graham Plattner's tattoo. 0.50

00:05:52.000 I know. 0.96

00:05:53.000 And we'll also get to his bizarre statements allegedly that he wanted to rape a male home invader, but not in a gay way, in like the most manly straight way. 0.99

00:06:02.000 You know, like a straight man would rape a man for home invading, for dominance. 0.98

00:06:08.000 It's a thing that, why? 0.96

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00:07:25.000 Well, according to the New York Times, Plattner's insistence he did not know his tattoo is a Nazi symbol until it became a campaign issue last fall was simply not true.

00:07:33.000 Lindsay Fifield, who dated Platinum between 2013 and 2015, told the New York Times that he had taught her the word for it years earlier, referring to it as, quote, my Totenkopf, right, which is death said.

00:07:45.000 He would joke about it being a Nazi tattoo.

00:07:48.000 Ms. Fifield said he told her that he and other members of his unit selected that tattoo because, quote, they were like a death unit, they were killers, and saw a parallel between their unit and the Nazi Schutzstaffel, that's SS.

00:07:58.000 They used the skull and crossbones image.

00:08:00.000 But don't worry, there are lots of other terrible allegations, lots and lots of other terrible allegations for the Here's Suit Silver Spoon Fake.

00:08:10.000 Because you know what?

00:08:11.000 You want to know his Silver Spoon story?

00:08:12.000 So, not only did he grow up rich, and not only does he get a $60,000 a year pension from the military, he pretends to be an oyster farmer.

00:08:19.000 Guess who his number one client is for his oysters?

00:08:23.000 It's his mommy's restaurant.

00:08:25.000 Aww, isn't that nice?

00:08:27.000 Anyway, according to the New York Times, Ms. Fifefield recalled that Mr. Plattner's displays of weaponry and discussions of violence sometimes left her uneasy.

00:08:34.000 She said he kept an AR 15 lying around his apartment on Capitol Hill and would sharpen an axe.

00:08:39.000 A relic from his time working on the Appalachian Trail before he enlisted in the Marines while watching TV.

00:08:44.000 AR 15s, by the way, are banned in the District of Columbia, and Graham Plattner is a fan of gun control, so there's that.

00:08:50.000 Also, I just gotta ask I mean, I'm gonna put it out there.

00:08:53.000 Ladies, if you're a man, like the way that he amuses, like you're not living in the backwoods, or you're not actually in Maine at the time, you're in like DC, and the way that you relax in the evening is by watching the news while you sharpen an axe, that is the opening to a horror film that is not a masculine romantic gesture.

00:09:13.000 That's super weird.

00:09:14.000 And as we'll get to in a moment, it gets weirder.

00:09:16.000 According to Lindsay Fifield, he had what she described as a warrior ethos and would fantasize about killing people he deemed a threat.

00:09:24.000 She said he told her that rape was about power.

00:09:26.000 It was something that stuck with her throughout the years, Ms. Fifield said, He said this a lot. 0.99

00:09:31.000 If anybody ever broke in here, I would rape them, she recalled, saying he added, It would not be in a sexual way, not in a gay way. 0.99

00:09:39.000 He was like, I would rape them to show them that I'm dominant, she said. 0.99

00:09:43.000 Asked about those remarks, a Plattner campaign official did not dispute. 0.98

00:09:46.000 The remarks.

00:09:49.000 Well, well, well, I have some questions. 1.00

00:09:55.000 I'm not sure a straight man has ever said in the history of humanity if someone breaks into my house, I'm going to rape him, but not in a gay way. 1.00

00:10:10.000 Somehow, somehow, someway, Graham Platner is now more gay than James Tellerico. 1.00

00:10:18.000 I also have to ask, why is it that so many prominent Democrats seem to have these bizarre fantasies?

00:10:22.000 It's really weird.

00:10:25.000 And why do they talk to their women about it?

00:10:27.000 Do you remember the Barack Obama story in which he literally wrote a letter to his girlfriend at the time talking about how he fantasized about other men?

00:10:34.000 Like, what is happening, man?

00:10:37.000 Is this the most masculine thing? 0.99

00:10:39.000 I didn't realize the warrior ethos contained a proviso that you're supposed to rape invaders. 0.99

00:10:47.000 Man. 0.98

00:10:48.000 Whatever you do, don't stumble by accident into his apartment in the middle of the night.

00:10:54.000 My goodness.

00:10:56.000 And you just get lost at him.

00:10:57.000 This is now deliverance.

00:10:58.000 You get stuck on a main back road somewhere and you knock on the door for help and the door is open.

00:11:04.000 You don't, no one answers and the door opens and suddenly it's Graham Plattner breathing heavy in your ear.

00:11:10.000 What in the F? 0.99

00:11:11.000 But not in a gay way. 0.99

00:11:12.000 Not in a gay way. 0.99

00:11:13.000 You know, listen, just because I have fantasies about, you know, You know, like having sex with men who come into my apartment uninvited. 0.98

00:11:21.000 That doesn't mean I'm gay. 0.99

00:11:22.000 That means I'm the straightest. 0.76

00:11:24.000 In fact, you talking about it is gay. 0.99

00:11:25.000 You're the gay one. 1.00

00:11:26.000 It's you. 1.00

00:11:31.000 You picked him.

00:11:32.000 Your fault, Democrats.

00:11:33.000 You did it.

00:11:35.000 By the way, it is kind of an incredible pattern.

00:11:38.000 Like Bernie Sanders also wrote like bizarre, weird fantasies when he was young, and he's the big platinum endorser.

00:11:45.000 Listen, it would take a heart of stone not to laugh.

00:11:48.000 Take a heart that what Democrats thought of as like the Uberman.

00:11:48.000 Truly.

00:11:52.000 The guy who is going to win over all those blue collar Trump voters is the guy who, if you were stuck at a bar with him and you were drinking a beer and he started talking about his fantasies of home invasion, you would immediately, immediately start backing slowly, slowly away.

00:12:09.000 Immediately.

00:12:12.000 I love that the campaign couldn't even deny it.

00:12:16.000 That's the part that's growing, which means, by the way, you just have to understand it's super funny.

00:12:20.000 You have to understand for the campaign not to deny the charge. 0.98

00:12:25.000 That he said that if a man entered his apartment to rob it, he would rape him, but not in a gay way. 0.99

00:12:32.000 Again. 1.00

00:12:40.000 Oh my God.

00:12:42.000 Well, I mean, he has to show dominance.

00:12:44.000 That's just what happens.

00:12:45.000 I mean, what does he do if, like, I don't know, what if, like, a stray cat comes in his window?

00:12:48.000 He has to show dominance.

00:12:51.000 Whip it out, my dude.

00:12:52.000 The time has come.

00:12:54.000 Oh no. 0.65

00:12:59.000 And the campaign imagine you're the campaign manager for Graham Plattner, this weirdo, this weirdo socialist kid who was working for Momdani. 0.98

00:13:08.000 And now you're answering a question about Graham Plattner raping home invaders. 0.95

00:13:11.000 And they come to you and you're like, can you deny that? 0.78

00:13:13.000 You're like, well, and you go to Platinum and you're like, can I deny that?

00:13:18.000 Now, here's how this would normally go, right?

00:13:20.000 This is like the ultimate he said, she said, right? 0.99

00:13:22.000 Like you got an old girlfriend who's saying that you said you wanted to rape male home invaders. 0.99

00:13:27.000 And then you have you, and theoretically, you're going to deny that, okay? 0.98

00:13:32.000 But he didn't deny it.

00:13:33.000 Why didn't he deny it?

00:13:34.000 Because he said this to like 8,000 people is the answer.

00:13:37.000 He either texted her this or he said it to 8,000 people. 0.97

00:13:41.000 They're like, Thousands of women he sexted his fantasies about raping home invaders. 0.99

00:13:48.000 Oh my gosh, but not in a gay way. 0.99

00:13:49.000 Like, you know, like a Viking, like an ancient Greek warrior. 0.62

00:13:53.000 That's what we mean.

00:13:54.000 To show dominance.

00:13:55.000 Because, like, I'm like a real alpha. 1.00

00:13:58.000 It's not gay if I'm the one who's doing it. 0.93

00:14:01.000 Oh my God. 1.00

00:14:07.000 I got nothing.

00:14:08.000 I'm sorry, show's over, gang.

00:14:09.000 Got nothing more here. 1.00

00:14:11.000 You picked the Nazi who wants to rape home invaders. 1.00

00:14:13.000 Wasn't me. 1.00

00:14:14.000 I didn't do it.

00:14:14.000 You're still endorsing him.

00:14:16.000 Wasn't me.

00:14:17.000 And you want him to be in charge of like our AI policy.

00:14:21.000 That's your goal. 0.87

00:14:22.000 You want this guy to be in charge of how the United States takes on Iran. 0.99

00:14:27.000 Well, first thing I'll do is I'll go and I'll meet Moshtaba. 1.00

00:14:30.000 That would have been my first move. 1.00

00:14:32.000 I've got to negotiate with our penises. 1.00

00:14:40.000 That's. 0.99

00:14:55.000 I'm going to New York City Pride Week, not getting gay, just to show dominance. 0.92

00:15:01.000 Oh my gosh. 0.56

00:15:02.000 Mr. Plattner, who had overlapping relationships with other women while he and Ms. Fifield dated, also referred to women as hatchet wounds, Ms. Fifield said, a crude term for female anatomy.

00:15:13.000 You know, I just have to say, this was not a good dating choice.

00:15:18.000 This was not a good dating choice. 1.00

00:15:20.000 The guy's a sexist piece of shit. 1.00

00:15:21.000 I mean, he's truly a horrible person. 1.00

00:15:23.000 A horrible person.

00:15:25.000 What did they do?

00:15:25.000 Did they like go to the horrible people factory and just toss a rock?

00:15:29.000 And whoever the rock hit, they're like, we will make him the nominee.

00:15:33.000 I mean, let's be real about this, by the way.

00:15:35.000 There is one thing that Graham Plattner could do to lose Democratic support.

00:15:37.000 He could put on a Star of David necklace.

00:15:40.000 And if he did that, then they're out immediately.

00:15:43.000 At this point, Democratic leadership is desperately trying to get him to like hold an Israeli flag at a parade or something so they can cancel him.

00:15:52.000 According to the New York Times, Mr. Plattner could be rough with her, Ms. Fifield said.

00:15:55.000 What was the first clue?

00:15:56.000 Particularly when they were drinking, leaving her shaken and sometimes afraid.

00:15:59.000 In the interviews, Ms. Fifield grappled with how to process her experiences.

00:16:03.000 She was quick to note, he never hit me.

00:16:04.000 He never punched me, which, by the way, is always the sign of a good relationship.

00:16:08.000 The best sign of a good relationship, ladies, is if your first defense of the relationship is, he never punched me in the face.

00:16:18.000 By the way, that is not something that has ever entered my wife's thoughts, I think.

00:16:22.000 If you ask her about If you asked my wife about our relationship, I'm pretty sure the first thing she said would not be, he never punches me.

00:16:29.000 But, according to Fifield, he regularly grabbed her by the shoulders, sometimes hard enough to leave marks, and on one occasion, yanked her out of a cab by her wrist after an argument when she wanted to stay in the car.

00:16:39.000 During one argument, she recalled, he twisted her arm behind her back, shoved her into a bedroom, and held the door closed from the other side so she couldn't get out, telling her to remain there until she was calm.

00:16:48.000 Eventually, Ms. Fifield said, she fell asleep and left the next morning.

00:16:52.000 He sounds like a delight.

00:16:54.000 Maybe he shoved her into the bedroom because he expected a home invader.

00:16:57.000 You don't know.

00:16:59.000 But the important thing is that the New York Times also found other ex girlfriends who said he is just awesome.

00:17:05.000 Because this is what the New York Times would do if you're a Republican.

00:17:07.000 They would track down all the ex girlfriends who said he's a nice person.

00:17:10.000 Caroline Lemp, who dated Mr. Plattner for several months in 2013, described him as a gentle giant.

00:17:15.000 She said he never made her feel unsafe or showed any signs he was struggling with the physical or mental effects of his military service.

00:17:21.000 He was a great boyfriend, said Miss Lemp, 36, who now lives in St. Louis.

00:17:24.000 He was super kind, very nice, fun.

00:17:27.000 The others who spoke on condition of anonymity. Said Platner was never physically threatening.

00:17:31.000 One, a nurse from Belfast, Maine, who dated him for a couple months after he returned home to Maine, described him as responsible, intelligent, and supportive.

00:17:38.000 Another, who dated him in Washington between roughly 2011 and 2013, said she witnessed some potentially problematic behavior, referring to his heavy drinking, but she felt really, really safe with him.

00:17:48.000 Well, congrats on only allegedly abusing one of the women who was interviewed.

00:17:54.000 I should point out, by the way, that Fifield has an entire thread today talking about how she regrets trusting the New York Times.

00:18:02.000 Here's what she said Quote, As they left my home, they asked that I not talk to any other outlets, and I insisted then and repeatedly over the following weeks I would keep my word.

00:18:08.000 I would only share this story with them.

00:18:10.000 Then the weeks dragged on.

00:18:11.000 They kept coming back saying the editors needed more.

00:18:13.000 I needed to go on record.

00:18:14.000 Okay.

00:18:15.000 We need more screenshots.

00:18:16.000 Okay.

00:18:17.000 I met every benchmark they set, eager to provide more sources or evidence as needed.

00:18:21.000 After the story went up, I began to ask them, wait, why are the stories from other women?

00:18:26.000 Where are their accusations of sexual assault?

00:18:27.000 Why am I the focus?

00:18:28.000 Why are there 11 paragraphs dedicated to detailing my work history?

00:18:32.000 More than has been published about Graham's by far.

00:18:34.000 Why does it say nobody could corroborate when I offered them sources that could corroborate?

00:18:39.000 Where were the screenshots they'd said they would use?

00:18:41.000 Or the mention that I'd supported local Democrats and that most of my family and husband are liberal?

00:18:45.000 It dawned on me this was really a setup all along.

00:18:48.000 The journalist I trusted, who convinced me to share a story I never wanted to tell, methodically delayed and twisted this into a gift to the Platner campaign, violating the trust of his victims, shattering the trust I placed in them with the most vulnerable story of my life.

00:18:59.000 All right, coming up. 0.63

00:19:01.000 Why are Democrats making common cause with radical Islamists at this point?

00:19:04.000 Also, an abortion story that's lighting up the internet.

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00:20:08.000 Okay, so what are Democrats doing about all of this?

00:20:11.000 Well, Platner is going on TV.

00:20:14.000 And he's talking about how none of it's true. 0.97

00:20:16.000 I mean, I can't deny about the like wanting to rape the home invaders like that because a man, because you know, yeah, yeah, beard, because beard, yeah. 0.86

00:20:25.000 But you know, other than that, it's all false. 0.95

00:20:27.000 Like, I didn't know that a Nazi tattoo was a Nazi tattoo.

00:20:30.000 I still don't know.

00:20:31.000 You're saying it's a Nazi tattoo.

00:20:33.000 Who says it's a Nazi tattoo?

00:20:34.000 You?

00:20:35.000 The Nazis?

00:20:36.000 Like, what?

00:20:38.000 Here's Graham Plattner on MS Now.

00:20:42.000 Did you know what this tattoo was about before last October when you said you first became aware of it?

00:20:50.000 No, I did not.

00:20:55.000 And you can believe him because he has verbal grind, but at a very, very low pitch.

00:21:00.000 Ah.

00:21:02.000 Ironically, the last thing you hear if you're a home invader.

00:21:04.000 Anyway, Platner then was.

00:21:08.000 That's a story you can't unhear.

00:21:10.000 I'm sorry.

00:21:10.000 It's been heard.

00:21:11.000 Can't be unheard.

00:21:12.000 Platner says that Fifield is lying about her physical violence allegations.

00:21:18.000 You did not grab her by the wrist.

00:21:20.000 You did not put your hands on her shoulders.

00:21:21.000 You did not push her into a room that you closed the door on.

00:21:24.000 She's lying about that, is what you're saying.

00:21:28.000 Yes, that is not true.

00:21:31.000 Yeah.

00:21:31.000 Okay.

00:21:33.000 Also, he was asked about when his.

00:21:36.000 Various behaviors stopped.

00:21:37.000 He cannot answer the question.

00:21:40.000 There's a difference in the time.

00:21:42.000 And I think the first question is like, when did this stop?

00:21:45.000 If it stopped, if there was stuff that you're not proud of, that you worked out with your wife, you don't want to talk about the details, when did it stop?

00:21:52.000 Oh, it stopped when it was happening.

00:21:56.000 I mean, like it was Amy and I, Amy and I, it happened soon after we got married.

00:22:02.000 And we dealt with it very, very early in our relationship.

00:22:06.000 And so that's when it stopped. 1.00

00:22:11.000 By the way, what a piece of crap. 1.00

00:22:13.000 I love the fact that as he was getting married, he was doing the sexting. 1.00

00:22:17.000 It's like a dissatisfied husband after 35 years.

00:22:19.000 Like the guy was, as he was getting married, he was doing the sexting.

00:22:23.000 And Chris Hayes asked him about the sex, and Planner says, I'm not worried.

00:22:27.000 There's nothing to worry about.

00:22:31.000 Are you worried about that?

00:22:32.000 Are there texts like that?

00:22:36.000 I'm not worried about it.

00:22:37.000 I mean, one, as I've talked to him, I went through my life through a number of years.

00:22:44.000 Struggling and not exactly acting with the best behavior.

00:22:49.000 I've been very, very open about that.

00:22:51.000 And if people would like to continue to drag things up from that time in my life, I'm sure that we are going to see at some point somebody attempt to do exactly that.

00:23:02.000 Oh, yeah.

00:23:03.000 That time in his life, by the way, was 2023.

00:23:08.000 That's the timeline when he's talking about the sexting stuff.

00:23:08.000 I'm not kidding.

00:23:12.000 Well, he also said this is why regular people don't want to get involved.

00:23:15.000 It's because of stuff like this that regular people don't want.

00:23:18.000 Regular people who were Silver Spoon and then who joined the military and blamed everyone else for joining the military.

00:23:23.000 And then people who started an oyster farm to supply their mom's restaurant.

00:23:28.000 Why can't a regular guy just start an oyster farm, supply his mom's restaurant, and get a $200,000 loan for his house from his parents, like a regular Silver Spoon guy, and then run for Congress while sexting 87 different women and three elk in the wilds of Maine?

00:23:43.000 And why can't a guy who just wants to rape home invaders not run for Congress?

00:23:46.000 What are we going to do as a country if men, real men, manly men, can't run for Congress? 0.99

00:23:52.000 While wanting to rape home invaders. 0.98

00:23:53.000 What that? 1.00

00:23:54.000 How about that, America?

00:23:59.000 And I hate to say it, but it's also why most regular people don't want to get involved in politics.

00:24:07.000 We don't doubt what we've done.

00:24:09.000 We are very proud of what we've built.

00:24:11.000 We believe deeply in our politics.

00:24:14.000 But it's hard.

00:24:16.000 This is a hard experience.

00:24:18.000 It's been hard on my family, it's been hard for both Amy and I.

00:24:23.000 And it's just hard in general to have to go through life having been a private citizen when nobody was paying attention to, to suddenly have the entire world really, really caring or digging through everything that you've ever done.

00:24:37.000 It's an unpleasant experience.

00:24:38.000 And I get why people look at this and think, yeah, I don't want to do that.

00:24:43.000 I'll say this, though.

00:24:45.000 We need to change it.

00:24:47.000 It shouldn't be like this.

00:24:49.000 We need to have a politics where we're talking about policy, where we're talking about the future.

00:24:56.000 Yeah, we need to change this.

00:24:58.000 We need people not to talk about me being pretty rapey.

00:25:03.000 That's what we need.

00:25:04.000 We need to talk about real issues like AI data centers.

00:25:08.000 That's what we need.

00:25:11.000 Well, it's fun to watch Democrats pretend that they don't know what's going on.

00:25:14.000 AOC, who has never shortened opinion on anything, now she is suddenly, what's happening?

00:25:19.000 Is there a primary in Maine?

00:25:20.000 What's happening?

00:25:21.000 What's happening over in Maine?

00:25:23.000 I'm just focused here on my district that I never go to.

00:25:26.000 I'm not in that primary, says AOC.

00:25:29.000 Do Democrats abandon Graham Platner after these messages came out, these sexually explicit messages they sent to women?

00:25:36.000 You know, I haven't waited into that primary.

00:25:39.000 I don't believe the primary has occurred yet.

00:25:43.000 So I will kind of, you know, again, I don't wait on that.

00:25:48.000 I haven't waited in that race.

00:25:50.000 I mean, I wonder what she would have to say in a similar situation, but with like no evidence of anything.

00:25:55.000 I feel like she might say something different if the person were a, say, Republican nominee to the Supreme Court, like Brett Kavanaugh.

00:26:02.000 I don't even have to wonder because she did.

00:26:04.000 Here was AOC in 2018.

00:26:07.000 I want to thank every survivor that is here today, that is allowing themselves and everyone in this country to be re traumatized over and over because people and people like Dr. Anita Hill, I mean, people like Anita Hill and Dr. Ford have to sit there in front of panels of 11 men.

00:26:26.000 Could you imagine if Brett Kavanaugh had to sit in front of a panel of 11 women of color deciding his fate?

00:26:34.000 Could you imagine? 0.90

00:26:39.000 It's all such a mockery.

00:26:39.000 Oh, man.

00:26:41.000 Me too. 0.96

00:26:42.000 Believe all women, except that those women dated Graham Platner.

00:26:46.000 Men do not believe those women. 0.96

00:26:47.000 Rokhana has words about Platner, too.

00:26:49.000 Rokhana is going to rally for Platner today.

00:26:52.000 Rokhana is a member of this radical progressive caucus among the Democrats, and he says he believes that Graham Platner has redeemed himself.

00:27:00.000 You know, he's really redeemed himself.

00:27:03.000 He's never taken responsibility for a single thing, by the way, but he believes in redemption so much redemption.

00:27:10.000 Here we go. 0.60

00:27:12.000 The Nazi tattoo was something that he owned up to.

00:27:16.000 He said it was a mistake. 0.87

00:27:19.000 He did it when he was signing up to serve this country in the military.

00:27:24.000 And I guess I have a view of redemption.

00:27:26.000 And he has unequivocally owned up to it, said that it was wrong, that he learned from it.

00:27:32.000 And the question is are we going to believe in redemption and people being flawed and then having a chance to move on?

00:27:41.000 So let's just be clear about what the Democratic Party has now become.

00:27:43.000 It's a party that greenlights Nazi tattoos.

00:27:46.000 It is a party that greenlights actual, honest to God terror support, whether from Abdul El Sayed, the Democrat Senate candidate in Michigan, who may very well become a senator from Michigan.

00:27:55.000 That is a distinct possibility. 0.55

00:27:57.000 Or whether it's from Adam Hamali, who is now the New Jersey congressional candidate from the Taliban, representing the Taliban.

00:28:06.000 It is pretty astonishing stuff. 0.56

00:28:09.000 So, Adam Hamali, again, the Democratic Party is standing behind him too. 0.97

00:28:13.000 Adam Hamali literally gave testimony in defense of the blind sheikh. 0.90

00:28:20.000 The blind Sheikh is the person who was behind the 1993 World Trade Center bombing. 0.91

00:28:25.000 He won the primary in New Jersey's 12th District. 0.94

00:28:28.000 And here is what he said in his testimony Question Did you ever hear Sheikh Omar speak on jihad against America?

00:28:33.000 Against America?

00:28:34.000 No, not in America, not against America.

00:28:38.000 Did you ever hear him speak about America and their role as to Islam? 0.94

00:28:41.000 Yes, he did. 0.77

00:28:41.000 He spoke about that. 0.77

00:28:42.000 Could you characterize for us what you recall him saying?

00:28:45.000 Quote He basically, you know, was very critical of America's foreign policy against Muslims in general, especially during the Gulf War.

00:28:50.000 Their support for Israel in general, and like their lack of action in Bosnia, basically the entire foreign policy of the United States, he was very critical of.

00:28:58.000 Also, Hamawi, when he wasn't testifying for actual convicted terrorists, he volunteered in the 1990s for a medical organization in Bosnia, later revealed by the 9 11 Commission to have ties to Al Qaeda.

00:29:10.000 And in 2024, he spent a month volunteering in what he insisted was a completely benign civilian hospital in Gaza with no tunnels underneath it, before Israeli forces subsequently identified that facility as having a tunnel literally connected to Hamas leader.

00:29:25.000 Mohammed Sinwar.

00:29:27.000 So that guy is a congressional candidate now for the Democrats, and you can't find a Democrat to denounce him. 0.60

00:29:32.000 Not one.

00:29:34.000 Not one.

00:29:35.000 Hamiawi, by the way, is campaigning on the idea that ICE was formed in the wake of 9 11 to target the Muslim community.

00:29:41.000 Understand that there is a coalition building strategy for radical Islam in America.

00:29:45.000 The coalition is the coalition of the oppressed. 0.80

00:29:47.000 It's why you see Hamas and Hezbollah flags alongside LGBTQ minus divided by sign flags. 0.99

00:29:53.000 That is the reason. 1.00

00:29:55.000 The reason is because you find the allies of convenience in order to wreck the civilization you are a part of.

00:30:00.000 Well, here is Hamawi going after ICE by suggesting that originally ICE was Islamophobic.

00:30:04.000 Now ICE needs to be dismantled because it's against Hispanics or some such.

00:30:10.000 Well, ICE was formed as a result of 9 11, and it was formed after that with the Department of Homeland Security.

00:30:19.000 And it was made initially targeting Muslims within the Muslim community, and ever since has been targeting black and brown communities throughout America.

00:30:28.000 It was done urgently and in a very quick manner without much thought.

00:30:34.000 Put into it.

00:30:35.000 And it's continued to terrorize people until we have the institutions that we see today with mass storm troopers going through our streets.

00:30:46.000 It's all the coalition of the dispossessed, the coalition of third worldism, the coalition of people who hate the civilization, which is why Hamawi was on with terrorist supporter Hassan Piker explaining that we need to dismantle the American military and we need to dismantle DHS.

00:31:04.000 We are spending a trillion dollars.

00:31:06.000 You know, on our defense slash Department of War slash Department of War crimes now.

00:31:12.000 And what we need to do is spend that in healthcare and spend it in education.

00:31:18.000 We need to abolish ICE.

00:31:20.000 And so not only do we need to, you know, abolish it, but we need to dismantle the DHS completely.

00:31:29.000 Okay.

00:31:29.000 Now, again, why is this all happening?

00:31:32.000 Why have the Democratic Party membership become so warm toward people who are.

00:31:38.000 Nazi tattooed or pro terrorism. 0.77

00:31:40.000 Why? 0.80

00:31:40.000 Again, it's all the same thing. 0.80

00:31:41.000 It's just anti Americanism.

00:31:43.000 Now, Dinesh D'Souza did an interview at one point with a guy named Imam Muhammad Tawhidi, who is a Shia Muslim, a third generation Imam of Iraqi descent, who is allegedly a reformed Muslim.

00:31:56.000 And he explained in September 2020 that he would only vote for the left.

00:32:03.000 When I was an extremist, Islamist, fundamentalist, I would only vote left.

00:32:08.000 Why is that? 1.00

00:32:09.000 I saw them as very stupid. 1.00

00:32:12.000 I would fear the conservatives because they come with principles that's not someone they can brainwash. 1.00

00:32:19.000 But the left, I know they have no values and no principles to begin with.

00:32:25.000 I dare you to find one Islamic extremist that votes for Donald Trump.

00:32:29.000 Never do it. 0.94

00:32:31.000 They'd give their vote to the leftist who wants to run around in pride parades. 0.98

00:32:40.000 Okay, now, there was some Muslim voting for President Trump in the last election cycle, mainly because. 0.77

00:32:46.000 The left went so psychotic on LGBTQ divided by sign issues that even Muslims who didn't like Trump's Middle East agenda were like, man, I can't vote for that. 0.84

00:32:54.000 But the reason that the left is making common cause with radical Muslims is because there is, in fact, a common cause to be made. 0.80

00:33:01.000 And the reason that radical Muslims are making common cause with the radical left is because there is, in fact, a common cause.

00:33:07.000 That is the thing that they are looking for.

00:33:10.000 Again, there is a reason why you will get gay rights talk from Abdul El Sayed in Michigan, while at the same time, he will not come out in favor of the killing of Ayatollah Khomeini. 0.93

00:33:21.000 Who's the leader of a country that literally hangs gay people from cranes? 0.68

00:33:26.000 There's a fair amount of dissimulation happening, shall we say. 0.77

00:33:32.000 Mehdi Hassan was appearing with Patrick Bett David and he was talking about this phenomenon.

00:33:37.000 It got kind of interesting.

00:33:40.000 Islam in general, obviously, I'm not an Islamic scholar, but Islam as traditionally practiced, like Christianity and Judaism as traditionally practiced, is very hostile to the idea of homosexuality. 0.90

00:33:51.000 Theologically, we have to come.

00:33:52.000 Let me finish.

00:33:53.000 Pew polling.

00:33:54.000 Let me give you some polls because you keep talking about Americans, this and that.

00:33:57.000 So in 2017, Pew did a poll of Americans, and they found that Muslim Americans were more likely to say 52%, I think it was, of Muslim Americans said that homosexuality should be accepted in society.

00:34:10.000 You know how many white evangelical Protestants said that?

00:34:13.000 34%.

00:34:14.000 Protestants was 34%. 0.90

00:34:16.000 So Muslims were more accepting of homosexuality. 0.94

00:34:16.000 I have that data. 0.94

00:34:19.000 Rob, I love you, Rob.

00:34:20.000 They were more accepting of homosexuality than white Christian evangelicals, right?

00:34:24.000 So, my question then is when you talk about integration, assimilation, America is a liberal country. 0.95

00:34:29.000 It's a pro gay country, whether you like it or not. 0.83

00:34:31.000 Muslims, and by the way, we ran a poll. 0.97

00:34:33.000 We ran a poll this year.

00:34:34.000 One last point, Patrick.

00:34:35.000 We ran a poll earlier this year at Zateo from Opinion.

00:34:38.000 They polled Muslims in the UK and the US.

00:34:39.000 Guess what they found?

00:34:40.000 Muslims in the UK and Muslims in the US support democracy more than non Muslim Americans and non Muslim Britons. 0.62

00:34:45.000 Muslims in America and Britain support gender equality more than non Muslim Britons and Americans. 0.61

00:34:50.000 So, for your viewers, I just want to make clear you've been lied to about Muslim attitudes.

00:34:54.000 I'm giving you the numbers.

00:34:57.000 Right.

00:34:57.000 So according to Madi Hassan, Muslims in America, as a general rule, are moderate and wonderful, and the same thing in the UK.

00:35:05.000 That would not explain why there is a wild support for radical Islam by American and British Muslims abroad.

00:35:15.000 That doesn't explain that problem.

00:35:18.000 That is, in fact, a problem.

00:35:20.000 And the reality is that, again, on a tactical level, voting in favor of Democrats.

00:35:27.000 Voting in favor of Democrats, there is a reason for that.

00:35:29.000 If you think that Dearborn, Michigan is a moderate place and that is why Dearborn, Michigan is voting in favor of Democrats, that is not why Dearborn, Michigan is voting in favor of Democrats.

00:35:38.000 The world is a complicated place and people have lots of different views.

00:35:41.000 But when people come down to their core views about whether the West is, in fact, a good place or a bad place, whether the values of the West ought to be upheld or not upheld, the same polls that he is citing, the same poll numbers with regards to, say, British Muslims and their feelings about pro democracy, Same population polled on whether blasphemy against Islam should be prosecuted. 0.99

00:36:02.000 We'll say blasphemy against Islam should be prosecuted.

00:36:06.000 So, again, poll numbers can say a lot of things. 0.58

00:36:08.000 But bottom line is that when it comes to the Democratic Party, the reason the Democratic Party is making overtures to people with Nazi tattoos and to radical Muslims is because it is a pseudo coalition of the pseudo oppressed. 0.56

00:36:20.000 That is the thing that is happening right now, politically speaking. 0.68

00:36:23.000 Well, joining us online to discuss the rise of anti Semitism on the left is Batya Ungersargum.

00:36:28.000 She, of course, is the host of Batya on News Nation.

00:36:30.000 She's a weekend anchor over there.

00:36:32.000 She contributes to the New York Post and the Free Press as well.

00:36:34.000 And she has a brand new book.

00:36:36.000 Titled The Jews and the Left, which I feel like is kind of apt today, unfortunately.

00:36:41.000 But yeah, I have to say, the good news for your book is the bad news for the country, which is that the book is incredibly relevant. 0.68

00:36:46.000 And that is unfortunate because it turns out that most of the left is fine with guys with Nazi tattoos.

00:36:54.000 So why don't you talk a little bit about sort of the premise of the left?

00:36:57.000 Why has the left turned so hard against Jews?

00:37:00.000 Because it's pretty clear that's what's happening right now.

00:37:03.000 Yeah, thank you so much for having me, Ben.

00:37:05.000 I'm a huge, huge admirer of yours, as you well know.

00:37:08.000 I know I feel a little guilty because obviously, like the news cycle, which is so terrible for the nation, is actually pretty good for my book sales.

00:37:15.000 But, um, yeah, and it's amazing because not only is the left so comfortable with this guy who has a Nazi tattoo, which he had for 18 years, but the two top Jewish politicians in the country, Chuck Schumer and Bernie Sanders, are standing by him, right? 0.54

00:37:30.000 So there's two pieces to this puzzle.

00:37:33.000 There's the question that I get asked the most when I travel the country.

00:37:35.000 I'm sure you get this question all the time, Ben, which is, Why are the Jews Democrats when the left has turned on them and the right really has our back?

00:37:44.000 And the second piece of it, of course, is what you just asked me, which is, and why did the left turn on the Jews?

00:37:50.000 And I think the reason the left turned on the Jews is the same reason that it turned on Christians, the same reason it turned on Western civilization, and the same reason it turned on America.

00:37:59.000 It has bought into this oppressor oppressed binary. 0.71

00:38:02.000 They threw out the distinction between right versus wrong, which the entire Judeo Christian West is built on, including this great nation, and instead they worship Weakness. 0.54

00:38:12.000 And anybody they see as having strength or privilege or power is coded as evil. 0.84

00:38:18.000 And anybody who is coded as oppressed is coded as virtuous and has no moral responsibilities, which is, of course, how they ended up being on Hamas's side after October 7th.

00:38:29.000 I think the question of the Jews is a little more complicated, especially because for the first 300 years of American Jewish history, we weren't Democrats, actually. 0.53

00:38:40.000 We were seen by the founding fathers from actually Americans here from the day we set.

00:38:45.000 Foot on American soil in 1654, which is where my book begins, as equals, as partners in the creation of this great nation.

00:38:54.000 We were utterly, utterly refused to be treated as an oppressed minority in America throughout our history here.

00:39:02.000 And I think that what happened is American Jews lost sight of that early history.

00:39:06.000 They started to see themselves as an immigrant community and as an oppressed minority because they found their home politically on the left.

00:39:15.000 And as such, they found it almost impossible to understand that the left was.

00:39:19.000 Destined to turn on them.

00:39:21.000 And I think that it is such a tragedy that American Jews have misread that history.

00:39:26.000 And that's really why I wrote this book, to give it back to our community.

00:39:31.000 Now, one of the things that I think is so astonishing is how the entire left has gone along with the smuggling of anti Semitism into the discourse simply by people substituting the term anti Zionism for anti Semitism.

00:39:43.000 People just saying Israel when what they actually mean is Jews.

00:39:46.000 And obviously, you and I agree that there are many critiques that can be leveled at Israel from right and left.

00:39:51.000 There are a lot of things that the Israeli government does. 0.56

00:39:53.000 That are worthy of critique, just like any other government on planet Earth.

00:39:56.000 That is not what we're talking about here.

00:39:58.000 What we are talking about when people say anti Zionist, the point that I've made is that people have misdefined Zionism and anti Zionism.

00:40:04.000 Zionism used to be the proposition in 1920 that the Jews should have a state, and the state didn't exist yet.

00:40:09.000 And then the Jews had a state. 0.79

00:40:11.000 So now the Jews have had a state for 80 years.

00:40:13.000 And so now when you say the Jews should not have a state, that is an active call for the destruction of a currently existing state as opposed to any other state on planet Earth, which would entail the murder of literally millions of Jews.

00:40:24.000 And so making the case that modern anti Zionism has no truck with anti Semitism or is completely unrelated.

00:40:30.000 Or that when you make the case that Israel controls American foreign policy, what you're not really saying is that Jews control American. 0.87

00:40:36.000 It's just nonsense.

00:40:37.000 But you see, it's amazing to watch the media coverage of, for example, Hassan Piker or Graham Plattner from the New York Times, where they will take obviously anti Semitic things that people are doing and saying, and they will just say, well, it's about Israel.

00:40:50.000 And how successful do you think that strategy has been? 0.99

00:40:55.000 I mean, it's such a good point, Ben.

00:40:57.000 And you have politicians like Zorhan Mamdani, Abdul El Sayed, and they will say, you know, We revere the Jewish faith. 0.90

00:41:06.000 We just have a problem with Israel.

00:41:09.000 And now, the problem with that, Ben, is I mean, you and I are people of faith, right? 0.89

00:41:13.000 We're Orthodox Jews, but the vast majority of Jews are not religious. 0.99

00:41:18.000 They don't have a faith. 0.72

00:41:20.000 Their religion is their spiritual, cultural, and historical connection to other Jews, whether that's here in America or in Israel.

00:41:31.000 That is their faith.

00:41:32.000 The vast majority, 85%. 0.94

00:41:35.000 90% of the world's Jews are Zionists. 0.98

00:41:38.000 So if you say your movement has room for Jews but not for Zionists, you are closing the doors to proud Jews. 0.98

00:41:45.000 And it is so doubly offensive when you look at who is allowed in, right? 0.99

00:41:50.000 We have room for people who knowingly got a Totenkopf tattoo for 18 years.

00:41:57.000 Every time Graham Plattner stepped out of the shower and looked in the mirror, he saw what millions of Jews saw as the last sight.

00:42:06.000 Before they were murdered in concentration camps, and he knew what that was. 0.83

00:42:11.000 That they have room for. 0.97

00:42:13.000 But a Jew who says, I don't want 8 million Jews in Israel to give Sharia law a chance because I have a feeling it's not going to go so well for them, no room for them. 0.91

00:42:23.000 It is so utterly disgusting, and it is such a betrayal of American Jewish history because so many Jews, two thirds of Jews, to this day remain Democrats and very tightly connected to their liberal values. 0.76

00:42:40.000 One of the things that is astonishing, I said a little bit earlier on the show. 0.83

00:42:43.000 Basically, the only thing that could stop Graham Platner from being the Democrat nominee, it seems, or from being backed by the Democratic establishment, is if he wore a Magin David the way that you are on your necklace.

00:42:52.000 If he wore your necklace, there is no shot whatsoever that he would be the nominee for Maine.

00:42:56.000 But if he's got an actual Nazi tattoo, apparently, that is not some sort of bar to office for him, which is an astonishing, astonishing thing. 0.51

00:43:03.000 And you mentioned this kind of game that's played where they say, well, we revere the Jewish faith, we just hate Israel or think it shouldn't exist. 0.59

00:43:11.000 That is like saying we revere Catholicism, we just think the Vatican should not exist.

00:43:15.000 We revere Islam, we just think that Mecca should be ruled by Christians and the Kaaba should basically be desecrated. 0.55

00:43:22.000 It's utterly nonsensical. 0.97

00:43:24.000 A central tenet of the Jewish faith is the connection between Jews and the land of Israel. 0.62

00:43:27.000 It's all over the Old Testament.

00:43:29.000 The entirety of the Old Testament is about the journey of the Jews toward the land of Israel.

00:43:33.000 That is what it is about. 0.99

00:43:34.000 And so to pretend that that's not a central tenet of Jewish faith, but say you respect Judaism, that's entirely stupid just on its face. 0.98

00:43:42.000 And obviously, in practical terms, when people say that they think that Israel should not exist, what they mean, and they would never say it about any other state, and this is what necessitates the anti Semitic lies, is that they mean it should be destroyed. 0.95

00:43:52.000 And that means that a lot of people would die, and a lot of people would live second, they'd live demist status, which is what exactly Jews lived under in the Islamic world for legitimately hundreds of years. 0.94

00:44:02.000 They would never say it about Japan, they would never say it about France, they would never say it about Saudi Arabia, but they'll say it about Israel. 0.68

00:44:06.000 And in order to get there, that means they then have to perpetuate extraordinary lies about Israel to show why Israel is somehow an exception to the rule that states that exist should not be destroyed.

00:44:16.000 And so that's when they have to start charging Israel with absolute lies, like Israel's a genocidal state, or Israel's an apartheid state, or Israel is some sort of ethnocentric state, as opposed to, say, Japan, which is 97% Japanese.

00:44:28.000 Israel is significantly more ethnically diverse and religiously diverse than Japan is, for example.

00:44:33.000 You wrap all of that up, and what it amounts to is just an entire smokescreen for what is really going on.

00:44:38.000 What's really going on is what you talk about in your book, The Jews and the Left, which is the left has a matrix, and that matrix says that they're an oppressor and they're oppressed, that they're victims and victimizers. 0.61

00:44:46.000 And if you are successful, you're inherently a victimizer. 0.61

00:44:48.000 And when you establish that matrix and then apply it to the Middle East, and the only successful state in the Middle East is the tiny Jewish state existing on a resource free piece of land that was largely swamp and desert in 1947, you know, that is that you apply that matrix and suddenly it's pretty clear why exactly all of this comes together. 0.91

00:45:06.000 The book is The Jews and the Left.

00:45:07.000 Baya Unger Sargon is the author.

00:45:09.000 Go check out her show, Baya, on whose nation, and go check out her book as well.

00:45:12.000 Baya, thanks so much for the time.

00:45:13.000 Appreciate it.

00:45:14.000 Thank you so much, Ben.

00:45:15.000 God bless and protect you.

00:45:18.000 Well, meanwhile, The left is really going whole hog this month. 0.83

00:45:21.000 This, of course, is Pride Month. 0.95

00:45:22.000 The most prideful of all the months. 0.52

00:45:24.000 So many months to choose from.

00:45:26.000 But this is the one in which we should be most proud.

00:45:29.000 And of what behavior are people proud?

00:45:31.000 The proudest kinds of behavior, you know?

00:45:33.000 So New York City Council had a Pride performance yesterday.

00:45:37.000 New York City Hall.

00:45:39.000 And I mean, they just brought their best.

00:45:41.000 They really did.

00:45:42.000 So New York City, not well run.

00:45:45.000 People with any level of serious income thinking about leaving.

00:45:49.000 They're in the middle of a fiscal spiral.

00:45:52.000 But they do have men dressed up as women with fake boobs gyrating around inside City Hall. 0.82

00:45:58.000 That's the thing they really, really have. 0.93

00:46:00.000 It's great.

00:46:06.000 It hosted a Pride Ball.

00:46:09.000 And so here you have extremely.

00:46:21.000 New York.

00:46:23.000 This is why the Knicks must lose.

00:46:24.000 They must.

00:46:25.000 New York must be punished.

00:46:28.000 Here's more of this.

00:46:29.000 Oh boy.

00:46:30.000 Graham Plattner is very excited by this part of the show, by the way. 0.88

00:46:32.000 But not because he's gay, just because of dominance.

00:46:39.000 So there's a dude who's had some surgeries.

00:46:42.000 And dancing around, gyrating around, everybody very, very excited.

00:46:47.000 This is what the founders of New York thought about when they were designing the city, the builders of City Hall.

00:46:55.000 This is what they thought was going to be happening there.

00:46:58.000 Is, you know, striptease dances and bizarre dances from men dressed up as women in short skirts.

00:47:06.000 Oh, how much pride, New York City.

00:47:10.000 Okay.

00:47:11.000 Things are going well in New York, very obviously.

00:47:13.000 Okay.

00:47:14.000 Well, on the social liberalism front, the big story that let the internet on fire is the story of one Jesse Ridgeway, who is known online as McJugger Nuggets.

00:47:25.000 This is the world we have now.

00:47:27.000 Created for ourselves.

00:47:29.000 A famous person, online alias McJugger Nuggets.

00:47:33.000 A 33 year old YouTuber, filmmaker, actor, director from New Jersey, about 4 million subscribers, 2 billion lifetime views.

00:47:40.000 So, back in March, Ridgway and his wife Ashley announced their first pregnancy with some pretty excited posts.

00:47:47.000 On April 8th, they put out an ultrasound video.

00:47:49.000 Here's what that looked like.

00:47:50.000 You can see the ultrasound?

00:47:52.000 It's his first look at the little nugget, baby juggy getting cozy.

00:47:57.000 Which is really cute and wonderful.

00:48:00.000 Again, we here at the Ben Shapiro show are big fans of ultrasounds, specifically because there are a lot of women who don't recognize what it is that is growing inside them because they've been lied to.

00:48:10.000 And this is why we team with pro life organizations in order to get ultrasounds for women who are pregnant and thinking about whether to abort or not.

00:48:22.000 That's what pre born is for. 0.88

00:48:25.000 So you see the ultrasound and all of it.

00:48:28.000 Well, on June 3rd, Jesse then posted a detailed statement on X, reposted by his wife, announcing that they had killed the baby in utero, which is what abortion is.

00:48:43.000 Here is the tweet This week, my wife and I made the very difficult decision to terminate the pregnancy due to trisomy 21.

00:48:48.000 The choice was not made lightly.

00:48:49.000 We really appreciate all of the personal stories you guys shared with us, especially the unconditional support we received from fans with no matter what we decided.

00:48:56.000 I know some of you may be very disappointed to hear this news.

00:48:59.000 This has been extremely traumatic for both of us, especially Ashley.

00:48:59.000 We are devastated.

00:49:02.000 She underwent the procedure earlier this week and is on the men.

00:49:05.000 Thankfully, everything went smoothly, but emotionally, we are drained.

00:49:07.000 Trisomy 21, also known as Down syndrome, is caused by an extra chromosome.

00:49:11.000 It is caused by an error in cell division, like a glitch.

00:49:14.000 The odds of a baby having it is one in 1,000.

00:49:16.000 When I first confronted this news, I was shocked but optimistic.

00:49:19.000 If they're a little slow intellectually, we'll make it work.

00:49:21.000 I signed on to be a parent come what may, but I just didn't fully understand what Down syndrome entailed.

00:49:28.000 Once we made it public, it became clear that most people don't know what Down syndrome entails and know it's not the same as autism.

00:49:33.000 50% of babies with Down syndrome have heart defects.

00:49:36.000 75% will have hearing challenges.

00:49:38.000 Over 50% will have vision problems, impaired immune function, developmental disabilities, learning disabilities, delayed physical development, poor muscle tone, structural issues with face, decreased lifespan, et cetera.

00:49:46.000 Sadly, the list is long.

00:49:47.000 Feel free to look it up.

00:49:48.000 Down syndrome isn't a blessing.

00:49:50.000 It is objectively from a health perspective.

00:49:52.000 I just didn't realize how rough it is for the child, let alone the family.

00:49:55.000 More often than not, they'll be fully dependent on others for the rest of their life.

00:49:59.000 The miscarriage risk is also close to 50%, which made matters worse.

00:50:02.000 It may never see the light of day and it puts Ashley further at risk.

00:50:04.000 We spoke with doctors, friends, family, and genetic counselors and learned that up to 90% of women terminate their pregnancy after learning the baby has trisomy 21.

00:50:11.000 This is way higher than I expected.

00:50:13.000 I thought it would be lower given that I hear so many say they kept or would keep the baby.

00:50:17.000 I believe that's because most terminations happen privately.

00:50:19.000 A lot of judgment being cast.

00:50:19.000 It feels shameful.

00:50:23.000 You never think you'd be in this type of situation until it happens to you and then things change.

00:50:27.000 To all of my fans who have weighed in on this topic, who have autism, Down syndrome, and any other conditions, we appreciate you.

00:50:32.000 You matter a lot.

00:50:33.000 We're glad you're here.

00:50:33.000 I commend you and your families for having the strength and courage to push forward.

00:50:36.000 As for us, we made a difficult decision that we believe in the long run will be beneficial for our family.

00:50:40.000 Thankfully, we had a choice.

00:50:41.000 It will take a little time to move on, but we are excited to try again in the future and hopefully have a better outcome.

00:50:46.000 Love you guys and thank you for understanding.

00:50:49.000 So, this is disturbing stuff.

00:50:53.000 Pretty obviously. 0.68

00:50:54.000 It's disturbing because, listen, to pretend that every parent doesn't wish for and hope for and pray for a healthy child would be silly.

00:51:00.000 Thank God I have four healthy children and a fifth with the help of God on the way.

00:51:05.000 That's wonderful.

00:51:06.000 Also, when you make the decision to get pregnant, when you get pregnant, this obviously is part of the calculation.

00:51:14.000 Because what is very obvious from this entire story is that from the very beginning, it is acknowledged as a human life.

00:51:20.000 The ultrasound was done and they are excited.

00:51:21.000 They're not excited because there is no human value here.

00:51:24.000 Not only that, What this post demonstrates, the reason the wife is devastated, the reason he is devastated, is because this is not a meaningless cluster of cells.

00:51:32.000 It is a preborn child.

00:51:33.000 That is why it's devastating.

00:51:35.000 And once you understand that there is, in fact, a moral component to the life of that child, killing the child becomes immoral.

00:51:43.000 And that doesn't mean that morality is easy.

00:51:45.000 Morality is not easy.

00:51:46.000 Morality is very often incredibly difficult.

00:51:50.000 That doesn't mean that life is always wonderful or beautiful or simple.

00:51:55.000 It does mean that doing the moral thing is required, whether or not it is difficult.

00:51:59.000 And the only person in this scenario who really pays the price is the child.

00:52:05.000 Because is the idea that the child was unworthy of life?

00:52:08.000 Did the child do something to not earn life?

00:52:11.000 Was that child's life not worth living?

00:52:15.000 That is the actual presumption that if you have all of these conditions, it's better if the child is never alive than if the child is born.

00:52:23.000 I mean, the famous Ronald Reagan phrase is that he's noticed that everybody who's for abortion has already been born. 0.94

00:52:28.000 Which, of course, is true. 0.98

00:52:31.000 What makes it even more immoral, obviously, and kind of absurd, is that the same YouTuber had put out a post earlier this year talking about their dog being diagnosed with stage four kidney disease last year.

00:52:31.000 This is immoral.

00:52:42.000 Quote, super sweet, super sixth birthday.

00:52:45.000 After she was diagnosed with stage four kidney disease last year around her fifth birthday, the vet said she had weeks to live.

00:52:49.000 If we were lucky, maybe a few months.

00:52:51.000 One year later, she is still fighting. 0.88

00:52:52.000 She is in the.0001% of superhero dogs that can continue living with no kidneys.

00:52:58.000 We all need a hero in this life.

00:52:59.000 Jenny has been one of mine.

00:53:01.000 Again, I have a dog too.

00:53:02.000 Dogs are great.

00:53:03.000 Dogs are not human beings.

00:53:05.000 Dogs are not humans.

00:53:07.000 And the care for a sick dog, a dog who will never feel the way a human feels about life, a dog who will never have life experiences that a human will have, that disconnect is about, unfortunately, convenience.

00:53:26.000 And again, I'm not going to pretend that convenience is an important factor in life.

00:53:30.000 It is, obviously.

00:53:32.000 But sacrifice and morality are about sacrifice and morality.

00:53:36.000 Every child is, in fact, a blessing, but that doesn't mean all blessings are easy.

00:53:40.000 We have this bizarre notion in our society that everything in your life is either all good or all bad, either all easy or all hard, and that hard equals bad and easy equals good.

00:53:50.000 And that's not true.

00:53:51.000 It's just not true.

00:53:52.000 I obviously have a lot of friends who have children who have issues like Down syndrome.

00:54:02.000 And it requires a lot of them, obviously.

00:54:06.000 Sometimes it puts them on the verge.

00:54:09.000 Of true serious hardship, sometimes into true serious hardship.

00:54:13.000 That's why they are heroes for doing it.

00:54:15.000 But being heroic means standing up for morality when the thing is hard.

00:54:21.000 And if we have a world full of people who simply dispose of babies for convenience, there is something truly evil happening on a societal level.

00:54:29.000 And when he says, you know, anyone who would back us, no matter what decision we make, you cannot make a decision about another person's life and be supported in that decision when it affects that other person's life.

00:54:39.000 And the entire premise of this entire story, all of it, soup to nuts, is that this was a child.

00:54:46.000 Otherwise, this would have no relevance to anybody.

00:54:49.000 That is the buried lead here.

00:54:51.000 Everyone is affected emotionally by this particular story because there was an ultrasound and it shows a baby in there.

00:54:56.000 And because that is a human life with potential and everyone recognizes it.

00:55:00.000 Again, if this were just removal of a polyp, no one would care on either side.

00:55:08.000 Yeah, they also put out a video that showed them finding out that their child had trisomy 21, by the way.

00:55:15.000 Here was the actual video.

00:55:18.000 It showed three chromosome 21 signals consistent with.

00:55:22.000 Trisomy 21 Down syndrome.

00:55:25.000 Genetic counseling is recommended.

00:55:28.000 Pattern consistent with trisomy 21.

00:55:33.000 We talked before this, guys, about what we would do if we confronted this scenario.

00:55:40.000 Because this was the more likely scenario.

00:55:43.000 We talked about terminating the pregnancy.

00:55:47.000 Obviously, things could change because this is traumatic, like very traumatic.

00:55:53.000 And I know you guys, even watching this, This is traumatic for the whole community.

00:55:59.000 I think now that we have a definitive result, we'll talk with these counselors and we're going to have some hard conversations.

00:56:05.000 Ashley is almost halfway through this thing.

00:56:07.000 Not saying we forced it, but like the kid seemed healthy and there's been stories of where the kid comes out and is like super functional.

00:56:14.000 And so it's like, I don't know.

00:56:18.000 So she's about five months pregnant at this point, right?

00:56:20.000 This isn't so there's that as well.

00:56:23.000 Again, this is the reason that we're commenting on it is because it's public.

00:56:27.000 They are the ones who made this public in the first place.

00:56:28.000 And so it becomes an issue of public controversy.

00:56:30.000 There are going to be a lot of people today say, well, it's a private decision.

00:56:33.000 It's no longer about what a person's decision is, even though, again, I think that we all have something to say about when somebody does something that is morally wrong, obviously.

00:56:43.000 But when it becomes an issue of public controversy, we certainly have something to say about that because it depends on what society's standards are.

00:56:49.000 And society's standards should be, obviously, the protection of human life because otherwise people make decisions not based on the interests, the independent interests of a human life with potential.

00:56:59.000 They make a decision based on what they believe their lifestyle will be and how their life will be affected by that thing.

00:57:05.000 That's why you have moral rules in the first place.

00:57:07.000 It's why you have moral standards in the first place.

00:57:10.000 Okay, in a brief bit of news, remember John Bolton was being prosecuted for revealing classified information.

00:57:18.000 And I said at the time I would wait to see how that case shook out because it's quite possible he did violate the law.

00:57:22.000 A lot of people were saying he was being targeted, even though he hadn't violated the law by President Trump.

00:57:26.000 I said, listen, you have to wait till the evidence comes out.

00:57:27.000 Well, now he has reached a deal with federal prosecutors to plead guilty to unlawfully retaining classified information, according to people familiar with the matter.

00:57:37.000 He is set to plead guilty to a single charge.

00:57:39.000 And pay a $2.25 million fine, he could face up to five years in prison.

00:57:46.000 Again, the whole thing was about him sharing diary like entries about his daily activities in the Trump White House, which is a violation of classified information rules.

00:57:54.000 To me, you either should consistently apply these things or not.

00:57:59.000 And so if you violated the law, then you should be punished in the same way Hillary Clinton should have been punished, in the same way that Joe Biden should have been punished.

00:58:07.000 And that is the way this works.

00:58:08.000 It is the inconsistency that is the problem here.

00:58:12.000 Meanwhile, over in California, the counting goes on.

00:58:16.000 It never stops.

00:58:17.000 We will be counting the California mayoral primary for the rest of our lives.

00:58:22.000 The same thing in the gubernatorial primary over there.

00:58:25.000 Spencer Pratt looks as though there may be some sort of late breaking vote counting that puts Spencer Pratt out of the top two in LA.

00:58:34.000 And this is what you wonder why people don't trust elections.

00:58:36.000 This would be the reason.

00:58:38.000 This would be the reason.

00:58:39.000 President Trump said, look what's happening in California.

00:58:41.000 The Democrats, right before our very eyes, are Stealing the vote.

00:58:43.000 I hope the Republicans are watching so they can finally pass the Save America Act, President Trump.

00:58:48.000 And again, the Save America Act is about regularizing voting procedures across the country.

00:58:53.000 The principled conservative opposition to it might be, theoretically, that it federalizes procedures that should remain state based.

00:59:00.000 It's a fair argument, but the sort of underlying politics of it obviously, you should have to use voter ID.

00:59:05.000 You should have to have a legal capacity to vote in order for you to actually vote.

00:59:10.000 And again, the LA County election vote counting facilities are bizarre.

00:59:15.000 The California Post.

00:59:16.000 Visited the county's 144,000 square foot ballot processing facility Thursday.

00:59:21.000 It showed dozens of empty workstations.

00:59:23.000 The scene at the warehouse appeared at odds with the mounting pressure to process hundreds of thousands of remaining ballots.

00:59:28.000 Here are some pictures.

00:59:29.000 You can see it's totally empty.

00:59:31.000 In one area where ballots that cannot automatically be read by scanners are reviewed by election workers, roughly 25 bins of ballots appeared ready for processing while no employees were seated at nearby desks.

00:59:43.000 You can see rows and rows of vacant desks and also giant pallets of ballots that have not yet.

00:59:49.000 Been counted.

00:59:53.000 And you are seeing the numbers change.

00:59:54.000 There'll be like another ballot dump.

00:59:56.000 And so the percentage of total votes expected drops in the middle of the calculation.

01:00:02.000 For the Karen Bass, Spencer Pratt, Nithya Brahman mayoral race in Los Angeles on Wednesday, it suggested 63.1% of the votes in with an estimated remaining 290,000 votes.

01:00:14.000 And today it says 64.3% of the votes are in with an estimated remaining 311,000 votes.

01:00:19.000 It's a terrible system.

01:00:20.000 There is no reason they have to do it this way.

01:00:22.000 It needs to be changed because otherwise, whether or not it is true, people are certainly going to have the perception that there is some funny business going on.

01:00:32.000 You want to foreclose the possibility of people having election doubts?

01:00:35.000 You can actually just have a good process.

01:00:37.000 Here in Florida, Jeb Bush did a great job of regularizing the process.

01:00:41.000 We know that night always who won and who lost, which is the way it really should work.

01:00:46.000 So I promised you a game to pick for Spurs Knicks at the top of the show because.

01:00:46.000 All righty.

01:00:51.000 Inexplicably, there were people who liked my, my hot sports talk yesterday.

01:00:55.000 So joining us on the line is editor in chief of Daily Wires news division and also a man who hates America, Brent Scherr.

01:01:04.000 I say this because, of course, Brent Scherr is rooting for the New York Knicks in the NBA finals.

01:01:09.000 And this is unacceptable because if the Knicks win, then New York wins.

01:01:13.000 And if New York wins, then Zaran Mamdani wins.

01:01:16.000 And so all that is good and true must be defended by all right thinking Americans and the Knicks must lose.

01:01:20.000 What say you, Brent?

01:01:22.000 We're going to have Donald Trump in the arena in game three, also a Nick fan.

01:01:26.000 Look, if I let Mamdani and all the things he liked make me have to root against them, it would be all my favorite things in the world.

01:01:36.000 We're both Mets fans.

01:01:37.000 It's tough, but we're sticking with it, Nick's fans.

01:01:41.000 And look, I think he's just going to win.

01:01:43.000 There's no stopping the Nick's right now.

01:01:46.000 So we just got to let Mamdani get one dub here.

01:01:52.000 Okay, so I'm just going to say it.

01:01:54.000 I think the Knicks fans, who are insufferable at the best of times, are now utterly insufferable in the worst of times.

01:02:00.000 Basically, they're Yankees fans, but for a team that has not won a title for 54 years.

01:02:05.000 And now we are learning that it turns out that the Knicks all along were the best.

01:02:09.000 But in any case, my son is having to deal with Knicks fans at his school, and it's not the most pleasant experience for him.

01:02:14.000 But let's talk about game two.

01:02:16.000 I broke into actual hot sports talk yesterday on the show, and apparently there was some segment of the population that liked that.

01:02:22.000 So now we're going to have to do a game two preview.

01:02:25.000 So here's my case for why the Spurs are going to win game two and still have the upper hand in the series.

01:02:29.000 They played as badly as it is humanly possible to play in game one, and Mitch Johnson made pretty much every bad coaching decision that you can make in game one, and they still barely lost.

01:02:38.000 The reason I say this is they shot 11 for 42 from three.

01:02:41.000 There's not a team in the NBA that will win a game shooting 11 for 42 from three.

01:02:46.000 They were playing Wemby on Carl Anthony Towns out by the three point line.

01:02:49.000 They're running ISOs for Wemby at 29 feet out from the basket.

01:02:53.000 He wasn't near the basket.

01:02:54.000 He wasn't running pick and roll.

01:02:56.000 He took out Dylan Harper, the only guy who was playing well, with four minutes left to go in the game and the game tied.

01:03:00.000 So just a series of horrifyingly bad decisions.

01:03:03.000 They were allowing somehow the Knicks to really target Champagne with Brunson.

01:03:08.000 They were running switches so they would get Champagne on him, and Brunson's eyes were opening up like, Cartoon character viewing a hamburger.

01:03:14.000 And so when I look at the Knicks, the Knicks, Brunson in the second half was just dynamite.

01:03:18.000 Carl Anthony Towns played the game of his life.

01:03:20.000 I've never seen Carl Anthony Towns play a smarter or better game than he played the other night against Wembanyana.

01:03:25.000 So when I look at that, I see the Knicks playing like an eight out of 10 game the other night and the Spurs playing about a four out of 10 game.

01:03:31.000 And so I feel like course correction will happen.

01:03:34.000 What's your take?

01:03:36.000 Here's what my take is the assumption that the Spurs are going to change that and do better is the same thing that happened.

01:03:36.000 Okay.

01:03:43.000 With the Cleveland Cavaliers last round, they blew it in the game.

01:03:46.000 It was a close game.

01:03:47.000 The Knicks won by a little.

01:03:49.000 You have the coach out there being like, you know, by expected score, we actually would have won this game.

01:03:55.000 Maybe, just maybe, there is something that the Knicks are doing that makes these teams play worse than people think they could play.

01:04:04.000 They're playing really smart defense.

01:04:05.000 They're putting the Spurs in bad situations.

01:04:08.000 They also are a bunch of old veterans who know basketball.

01:04:12.000 Wetman Yama looks like he's.

01:04:15.000 Quite old, but really, he's just a child.

01:04:16.000 This is the biggest game he's ever played in.

01:04:20.000 He's not playing smart offense.

01:04:21.000 They aren't utilizing him well on defense.

01:04:24.000 Cat has him out on the perimeter and just destroyed him a few times.

01:04:30.000 Look, the Knicks have something going on.

01:04:32.000 We won 12 in a row.

01:04:35.000 Most of those games weren't close.

01:04:37.000 You know, the Philly fans, we broke the city of Philadelphia.

01:04:42.000 They have never seen their team play so bad.

01:04:44.000 They're probably going to blow it up now in the offseason.

01:04:47.000 The Knicks just are good.

01:04:50.000 And everybody keeps thinking, like, oh, well, we'll play better against them.

01:04:53.000 And this has to be a gimmick.

01:04:55.000 They haven't lost a game since the Jets were on the clock in the NFL draft.

01:05:01.000 That's insane.

01:05:04.000 No, it is crazy.

01:05:05.000 And I'm not trying to short sell the Knicks here.

01:05:08.000 I think the Knicks are an incredibly good team.

01:05:10.000 And I think this series is likely to go at least six games, maybe seven.

01:05:14.000 But when I look at the other teams that you're comparing the Spurs to, the Spurs are a far deeper team.

01:05:18.000 They're a far better team than either the 76ers, who are really banged up, really beaten up.

01:05:22.000 And beat his old.

01:05:23.000 He can't move, particularly after that series with the Celtics.

01:05:26.000 And the Cavaliers, I mean, come on.

01:05:28.000 Come on.

01:05:28.000 I mean, really?

01:05:29.000 Like, Evan Mobley is your guy?

01:05:31.000 Like, defeating the Cavaliers, sweeping the Cavaliers, that is not a thing.

01:05:36.000 I'm sorry.

01:05:36.000 So, their competition, the fact they beat the Spurs in game one is what actually makes me think that they are real.

01:05:41.000 Until then, I was like, maybe they're real, maybe they're not real.

01:05:43.000 Beating the Spurs in game one is what made me think, wow, I was watching them play.

01:05:46.000 I'm like, this is a very, very good team.

01:05:48.000 And you did have some players on the Knicks who really underperformed until the second half.

01:05:51.000 OG did not play a good first half, and he played a very good.

01:05:54.000 Fourth quarter, particularly.

01:05:56.000 But the Spurs, again, I watched them play the entire OKC series.

01:06:01.000 They are an inconsistent team because they are a young team.

01:06:03.000 And so there were certain games where it looked like OKC had just figured them out.

01:06:07.000 Basically, in that series, game one was good and game seven was good, and everything in between sucked.

01:06:10.000 It was the, it looked like the Spurs, every time the Spurs won, it looked like they would never lose.

01:06:13.000 And every time OKC won, it looked like OKC would never lose.

01:06:16.000 And so I'm a little bit, the question is was game one, the Spurs, just being figured out by the Knicks?

01:06:22.000 Right?

01:06:23.000 Have the Knicks now figured out the Spurs, and now they're just going to run this thing to daylight, and this is a five game series, and it's over?

01:06:28.000 Or are the Spurs going to come back with a couple of haymakers?

01:06:31.000 And watching game one, it was like, I mean, it was a great game.

01:06:34.000 It was a badly played game in some ways, but it was a really good game.

01:06:37.000 Fun game to watch because it was these two teams throwing haymakers at each other.

01:06:40.000 And the Spurs did not go down quietly.

01:06:42.000 I mean, yes, they were up 14, but then they were down eight.

01:06:44.000 And when they were down eight, they came all the way back to tie.

01:06:47.000 And that's why, again, I was yelling at the TV when Mitch Johnson decided to take out the only player who was playing well for them, Dylan Harper, with four minutes left, who was playing with actual aggression.

01:06:55.000 And so Darren Fox did not look right.

01:06:57.000 He was not making his threes.

01:06:59.000 Again, going 11 for 42 ain't going to do it.

01:07:01.000 And when Wemby takes nine threes, you're dead in the water.

01:07:04.000 There's no game in which Wemby Ana takes nine threes that you're going to win.

01:07:09.000 Yeah, look, all these teams look like they're never going to lose again.

01:07:12.000 The Knicks actually might never lose again.

01:07:15.000 I don't think this series has gone six, Knicks and four.

01:07:18.000 At the end of the game, you know, we have an older vet who knows what they're doing.

01:07:23.000 I will take Jalen Brunson over Child Wendy any day of the week.

01:07:29.000 They were up one, actually, with a few minutes left, and they ended up losing by 10.

01:07:33.000 It wasn't even close.

01:07:34.000 The Knicks have been in a lot of these series for the last few years, this team, and it's the exact same team.

01:07:40.000 It's Cat, Brunson, OG, Josh Hart.

01:07:44.000 It's the same guys who have been through like 10 of these series now, and they know what they're doing.

01:07:49.000 They gel together, they play well together.

01:07:52.000 By the end, it seemed like they knew what the Spurs were trying to do on every single offensive possession, and they'd shut it down.

01:08:00.000 I don't know.

01:08:01.000 I also, the Spurs might be able to handle going to OKC. 0.94

01:08:05.000 Going to Madison Square Garden in game three is going to be a wild experience for Wendy.

01:08:12.000 I don't know.

01:08:12.000 And.

01:08:14.000 It's tough to win.

01:08:15.000 I don't think he's going through the Knicks in four.

01:08:19.000 There's only one way to say.

01:08:20.000 Okay, so you are very, very confident.

01:08:21.000 I mean, I'm not even going to.

01:08:23.000 Now that you're giving me this much room, I'm not even going to bet on you whether the Knicks or Spurs are going to win the series.

01:08:29.000 Now I'm going to make you bet on a Knicks sweep because this actually puts your money where your mouth is.

01:08:34.000 Because if, like, I'm not sure I would put money on the Spurs in a six or seven game series, I would definitely put money that the Spurs are not going to get swept.

01:08:42.000 I do not think the Spurs are going to get swept.

01:08:44.000 So, how much money do you want to put?

01:08:45.000 Brent, you're recognizing that money means a lot less to me than it does to you.

01:08:51.000 How much money are you willing to put?

01:08:53.000 I will let you name this up.

01:08:54.000 He's like, you want to bet $10,000.

01:08:57.000 That's the Mitt Romney when he was on stage with I forget.

01:09:01.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:09:02.000 I'm really going to press this.

01:09:03.000 I mean, what odds will you give me that the next sweep?

01:09:07.000 I mean, like, how strongly do you believe this thing, and how much money are you willing to actually put on the next sweep?

01:09:12.000 That is an audacious, bold claim, Brent, you're.

01:09:16.000 I already have my money where my mouth is on the next sweep.

01:09:19.000 My salary, Ben.

01:09:23.000 Oh my gosh.

01:09:24.000 Wow.

01:09:24.000 I mean, okay.

01:09:25.000 All right.

01:09:26.000 Fine.

01:09:26.000 Let's do that.

01:09:27.000 And also, you're such a fan that you're going to a Keith Urban concert tonight.

01:09:31.000 I have an excuse for not watching tonight.

01:09:32.000 God told me I can't because it's Sabbath.

01:09:34.000 And you are missing the game to go to a Keith Urban concert, you New York fans.

01:09:40.000 It's the new Tennessee thing.

01:09:42.000 You know, I got CMA Fest tickets.

01:09:45.000 I'm not sure my wife's going to be happy with the decision I might make.

01:09:49.000 At seven o'clock, when we're actually supposed to leave to go to this concert, I'll probably be in the bar in the stadium somewhere, just glued to this TV and definitely not watching a foreign country star, just like I won't be wording for a foreign basketball player.

01:10:04.000 Basketball is for Americans and so is country music.

01:10:07.000 Sorry, Keith Urban.

01:10:09.000 Well, I mean, I will make you a deal.

01:10:11.000 I will allow you to port Wemby if we are all allowed to port Mamdani.

01:10:16.000 That's a straight up deal.

01:10:18.000 Okay, Brent, that's a lot of sports talk on the Ben Shapiro show.

01:10:21.000 So we're going to end it there.

01:10:23.000 Brent, I appreciate it and prepare to not receive a salary next month.

01:10:27.000 Okay, deal.

01:10:28.000 Nixon four.

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The Ben Shapiro Show - June 05, 2026

Believe All Women! (Unless It’s About Graham Platner)

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