The Ben Shapiro Show - Bernie Goes NUTS: DENOUNCE THE ONESIES!

00:00:00.000 Well, folks, horrible, tragic situation in Washington, D.C. According to the UK Daily Mail, an American Airlines passenger jet with 64 people on board crashed midair into a military helicopter while attempting to land at Reagan National Airport.

00:00:13.000 This is one of the most heavily policed areas of the sky in all of America.

00:00:18.000 Reagan National, of course, is a very sensitive security site, given the fact that it has close proximity to pretty much all of the major American security sites in Washington, D.C. The tragedy is just shocking.

00:00:30.000 You can see on video as this American Airlines passenger jet, a small passenger jet that was taking off from Kansas, is trying to land at Reagan National.

00:00:39.000 And a helicopter, which was swirling around in the area, a Black Hawk military helicopter, flies directly into its path.

00:00:47.000 And it's pretty clearly an accident.

00:00:49.000 There was a lot of speculation last night.

00:00:51.000 I don't like doing speculation, particularly in situations like this where all the information is not available.

00:00:56.000 The video is shocking and horrifying.

00:00:58.000 This is some camera footage that was available, some security camera footage available from afar.

00:01:04.000 You can see the fireball that is created as the plane hits the helicopter here.

00:01:12.000 You can see the explosion happening near the bottom of the screen.

00:01:15.000 There's a close-up.

00:01:16.000 You can see the helicopter approaching the flight, flying directly into the path of the airplane.

00:01:21.000 It explodes in midair.

00:01:23.000 It breaks apart.

00:01:24.000 It lands in the Potomac River.

00:01:26.000 Everybody aboard apparently dead.

00:01:28.000 That includes members of the U.S. figure skating community who'd been returning home from the National Development Camp, which is an advanced training camp for promising young athletes held in conjunction with U.S. figure skating championships.

00:01:40.000 As many as 15 people on the flight may have been involved in figure skating, according to the reports.

00:01:45.000 It included a married couple, a Russian married couple named Evgenia Shishkova and Vadim Naumov, who apparently won a world championship in figure skating.

00:01:54.000 Back in 1994. Again, there were three soldiers who were aboard the Black Hawk helicopter.

00:02:00.000 Just a horrifying, tragic scenario.

00:02:02.000 We'll bring you the latest as more news becomes available.

00:02:05.000 But at this point, all you can really do is pray for the families because there are no survivors, from what we know, at this point.

00:02:12.000 Bodies have been fished out of the Potomac.

00:02:14.000 This is going to mandate serious change, I'm sure, in how Reagan National is run.

00:02:20.000 And that is some very busy airspace, despite the fact that it's very sensitive airspace.

00:02:24.000 The last time there's a major American plane crash was 2009. It's been a long time in the United States.

00:02:31.000 These are very rare.

00:02:32.000 The United States does have the safest aviation system on planet Earth.

00:02:37.000 So when this sort of stuff happens, it is truly, truly shocking, horrifying, and tragic.

00:02:42.000 Once again, our prayers go out to the family.

00:02:43.000 We'll bring you more information on how people can give charity and help out as time goes on, as that information becomes.

00:02:50.000 Okay, meanwhile, in Washington, D.C., the big story of the day was that RFK Jr., Bobby Kennedy, had his hearing for Secretary of Health and Human Services.

00:03:00.000 He, of course, is one of the more controversial nominees by President Trump, both from the right and from the left.

00:03:05.000 From the left, there are a lot of people who question Bobby Kennedy's association with President Trump, the fact that he gave a pretty bang-up speech leaving the race.

00:03:13.000 He was running originally as a Democrat.

00:03:14.000 He was basically barred from the Democrat primaries because the Democrats were trying to rig it for Joe Biden.

00:03:18.000 And then, He ran as an independent, and he was picking up a not insignificant portion of the vote, and he decided to drop out and endorse President Trump.

00:03:24.000 In that speech, he went after many of the Democrat-controlled systems, ranging from the media to academia.

00:03:30.000 So there's a lot of ire from Democrats who used to love Bobby Kennedy at Bobby Kennedy.

00:03:35.000 On the right side of the aisle, there's some dyspepsia over many of Bobby Kennedy's prior positions, ranging from abortion to his sort of broad position on vaccines.

00:03:43.000 So his hearing yesterday was, I think, an excellent job by Kennedy.

00:03:48.000 of walking back some of the positions that are more extreme, generally anti-vaccine positions, or positions that suggest that he's going to outright work to ban foods that he doesn't like.

00:03:59.000 The implication had been, from many people, that make America healthy again, was really going to be a sort of Michael Bloomberg effort to ban you from buying a soda or buying a hamburger.

00:04:12.000 And Bobby Kennedy said, no, that's not the case.

00:04:14.000 He said right off the top, listen, I'm not interested in taking people's food away.

00:04:18.000 The president of the United States is Donald Trump.

00:04:19.000 That dude loves, that dude loves McDonald's.

00:04:22.000 He loves Diet Coke and he loves cheeseburgers.

00:04:24.000 Those ain't going away.

00:04:26.000 I don't want to take food away from anybody.

00:04:29.000 If you like a McDonald's cheeseburger or Diet Coke, which my boss loves, you should be able to get them if you want to eat.

00:04:41.000 Hostess Twinkies, you should be able to do that, but you should know what the impacts are on your family and on your health.

00:04:48.000 Okay, the fact that he's pushing for more information being available is not a terrible thing.

00:04:53.000 He says that his tenure at the head of HHS, if he is confirmed, will be marked by radical transparency, which of course would be a major shift from the past.

00:05:01.000 The Democratic Party, of course, has not embraced radical transparency in any area of administrative law.

00:05:05.000 All the administrative agencies have basically been opaque.

00:05:08.000 You only find out when you violated a law because...

00:05:10.000 You had a summons from some sort of executive branch agency.

00:05:14.000 Here is RFK Jr. suggesting that the hallmark of his tenure will be radical transparency.

00:05:20.000 My approach to administration, HHS, will be radical transparency.

00:05:28.000 If members of this committee or other members of Congress want information, the doors are open.

00:05:34.000 I've spent many years litigating against NIH and its sub-agencies.

00:05:39.000 I mean, it's HHS and its sub-agencies, NIH, CDC, FDA, on FOIA issues, trying to get information that we, the taxpayers, paid for, and oftentimes getting back redacted copies after a year or two years of litigation.

00:05:56.000 That should not be the case.

00:05:57.000 And if Congress asks me for information, you will get it immediately.

00:06:02.000 Okay, again, that is a good thing.

00:06:04.000 By the way, one of the things Bobby Kennedy pledged is that...

00:06:07.000 Null studies, meaning studies that come out that are basically file-droored.

00:06:12.000 What that means is very often the studies that tend to get a lot of play are the ones that have quote-unquote new results.

00:06:17.000 And very often those new results are not duplicated in other studies.

00:06:20.000 And so if somebody tries to put forward a result that basically shows no impact, a void impact of a drug, for example, that is file-droored.

00:06:29.000 Somebody just gets rid of the study.

00:06:30.000 It just doesn't see the light of day.

00:06:31.000 It says we need to see more of those things.

00:06:33.000 We need to see more of the studies.

00:06:35.000 We need more information.

00:06:36.000 That, of course, would be very, very good.

00:06:38.000 RFK Jr. also walked back some of his pro-choice positions.

00:06:42.000 Not that he has suddenly become pro-life, but he does work for the Trump administration, which is a pro-life administration.

00:06:46.000 He's not going to use HHS to promote abortion.

00:06:49.000 That was one of the things that he said yesterday, which I think quieted a lot of concerns from the right about his anti-life positions in the past.

00:06:57.000 Of course, he had said on many shows, including my own show, I've interviewed him, that he is fully pro-choice, but he says...

00:07:04.000 He is a member of the Trump administration.

00:07:05.000 Minimizing abortion would be the idea. 1.00

00:07:08.000 I agree with President Trump that every abortion is a tragedy.

00:07:12.000 I agree with him that we cannot be a moral nation if we have 1.2 million abortions here. 0.98

00:07:19.000 I agree with him that the states should control abortion.

00:07:24.000 President Trump has told me that he wants to end late-term abortions.

00:07:30.000 That he wants to protect conscious exemptions and that he wants to end federal funding for abortions here or abroad.

00:07:37.000 That's Title X. I serve at the pleasure of the president.

00:07:41.000 I'm going to implement his policies.

00:07:44.000 Again, that I think is aimed at the Republicans in the Senate who are likely to vote for RFK Jr.'s confirmation.

00:07:50.000 He also mitigated his own statements with regard to vaccines.

00:07:59.000 Far too broad-reaching, suggesting, for example, at one point that vaccines, there was no such thing as a safe and healthy vaccine.

00:08:07.000 Now, he says he meant for everyone, meaning that every single vaccine has some sort of side effects for someone, which, of course, is true.

00:08:13.000 He was asked about that, and he said, listen, if you think I'm taking away the measles vaccine or the polio vaccine, that is not what I am in favor of.

00:08:20.000 I support the measles vaccine.

00:08:22.000 I support the polio vaccine.

00:08:24.000 I will do nothing as HHS secretary.

00:08:28.000 That makes it difficult or discourages people from taking either of those practices.

00:08:32.000 Anybody who believes that ought to look at the measles book you wrote saying parents have been misled into believing that measles is a deadly disease.

00:08:40.000 That's not true.

00:08:41.000 Okay, so, again, he was browbeaten by Democrats on that particular list.

00:08:45.000 He spent a lot of yesterday walking back old comments, which, of course, is not a shock considering that he has said a lot of controversial things in the past.

00:08:52.000 Now, that's not all that he did.

00:08:54.000 He pointed out that many of the same Democrats who were attacking him used to be his friends.

00:08:58.000 Here he was yesterday pointing out that many of the same Democrats who are now saying that he's out of his mind, that he's insane.

00:09:04.000 All these same people were courting his favor just a few years ago.

00:09:08.000 All these Democrats are opposed to me for partisan issues.

00:09:11.000 They used to be my friends.

00:09:13.000 Agreed with me on all the environmental issues that I've been working on for my whole career.

00:09:18.000 Now they're against me because anything that President Trump does, any decision he makes, I mean, again, he's right about that.

00:09:34.000 If President Trump wants to snuff out all of his opponents, all he has to do today is come out in favor of breathing oxygen.

00:09:39.000 All his opponents will immediately denounce breathing oxygen and put plastic bags over their heads.

00:09:43.000 And that is the oppositional nature of our politics at this moment.

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00:12:05.000 He's not wrong about this.

00:12:07.000 In fact, every single public health care system on planet Earth reaches a point of diminishing returns.

00:12:13.000 You can increase the health of your population only to the point of the baseline health of the population, meaning that if you have a deeply unhealthy population that is, for example, obese, ridden with diabetes, has too much sugar, never exercises, no matter how much money you sink into Medicaid, it is not going to fix those problems on the back end.

00:12:30.000 That is not how medicine works.

00:12:32.000 Here's RFK Jr. on this.

00:12:34.000 Americans, by and large, do not like the Affordable Care Act.

00:12:38.000 People are on it.

00:12:39.000 They don't like Medicaid.

00:12:40.000 They like Medicare.

00:12:42.000 And they like private insurance.

00:12:45.000 We need to listen to what people, they would prefer to be on private insurance.

00:12:50.000 Most Americans, if they can afford to be, will be on private insurance.

00:12:55.000 We need to figure out ways to improve care.

00:12:59.000 Particularly for elderly, for veterans, for the poor in this country.

00:13:04.000 And Medicaid, the current model, is not doing that.

00:13:07.000 I would ask, you know, any of the Democrats who were chuckling just now, do you think all that money, the $900 billion that we're sending to Medicaid every year has made Americans healthy?

00:13:18.000 Do we think it's working for anybody?

00:13:21.000 Are the premiums low enough?

00:13:24.000 He's right about this, although when he talks about premiums on Medicaid.

00:13:27.000 He was banged about for this in the press because it turns out that there are no premiums in Medicaid, right?

00:13:32.000 I mean, when it comes to premiums in Medicaid, Medicaid is not a private health insurance system.

00:13:37.000 One of the problems with Medicaid is that typically the reimbursement rates are so low that many doctors won't even take it in the first place.

00:13:42.000 But his point, which is we spend billions, hundreds of billions of dollars on these gigantic health care systems when we should actually be encouraging people to do healthy things on the front end.

00:13:52.000 That he is right about.

00:13:53.000 Now, the Democrats made fools of themselves.

00:13:56.000 One of the things that helps RFK Jr. in this hearing is that whatever mistakes he made were quickly covered up for by the fact that Democrats are out of their freaking minds.

00:14:03.000 They are out of their minds.

00:14:05.000 They're just crazy.

00:14:06.000 They're crazy.

00:14:07.000 I mean, listen, it's not our fault on the right that you guys decided to tout Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren as your champions of diversity, of inclusion, of economic wherewithal.

00:14:20.000 That is your fault.

00:14:21.000 You decided to make these people your leading lights.

00:14:23.000 We didn't.

00:14:24.000 You chose the form of your destructor, and it turns out it was a bunch of geriatric socialists with no relationship with the real world.

00:14:31.000 The funniest moment by far of the day came when Bernie Sanders started questioning RFK Jr. about a onesie for a baby that said, unvaxxed, unafraid.

00:14:42.000 And apparently, Bernie doesn't like the onesies.

00:14:45.000 Onesies are bad.

00:14:46.000 Where are the legs?

00:14:46.000 Why are there no legs on this onesie?

00:14:48.000 Why can't I wear a onesie?

00:14:50.000 Will you denounce the onesies?

00:14:52.000 Who made these onesies? 0.50

00:14:55.000 They are selling what's called onesies.

00:14:59.000 These are little things, clothing for babies.

00:15:02.000 Are you supportive of this?

00:15:04.000 I've had nothing to do with leadership.

00:15:06.000 Are you supportive of these onesies?

00:15:07.000 I'm supportive of vaccines.

00:15:09.000 Are you supportive of this clothing, which is militantly anti-vaccine?

00:15:14.000 I am supportive of vaccines.

00:15:18.000 I want good science, and I want to protect the vaccines.

00:15:21.000 But you will not tell the organization you founded.

00:15:23.000 Not to continue selling that product.

00:15:26.000 Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

00:15:27.000 Why?

00:15:28.000 Will you not denounce the onesies?

00:15:29.000 Who ordered the onesies? 0.63

00:15:31.000 Who did it?

00:15:32.000 Was it you?

00:15:33.000 Was it you?

00:15:35.000 Babies are okay.

00:15:37.000 They're not great.

00:15:37.000 They're okay.

00:15:38.000 They poop a lot.

00:15:39.000 They wear onesies.

00:15:40.000 I don't like the onesies.

00:15:41.000 These are bad onesies.

00:15:46.000 Bernie2028, will you denounce the onesies?

00:15:48.000 By the way, one of the funniest things that I've ever seen in a congressional hearing like this.

00:15:53.000 It was Megyn Kelly, who showed up, and Megyn, of course I'm friends with Megyn, Megyn showed up directly behind RFK Jr., right? 0.70

00:16:01.000 She considers herself a maha mom, and she was sitting behind RFK Jr., and during this exchange, if you can't see it, she bursts out laughing.

00:16:08.000 It's really funny, and it's everybody's thought.

00:16:11.000 It's like, this is just crazy.

00:16:12.000 You think that you're going to get RFK Jr. on, will you denounce the onesies? 0.99

00:16:17.000 These onesies?

00:16:19.000 I have questions about onesies.

00:16:20.000 Why do they have snaps?

00:16:21.000 Snaps are not good for onesies.

00:16:23.000 Why don't they just use zippers? 0.96

00:16:24.000 The snaps are very difficult.

00:16:25.000 Sometimes you get one, sometimes you get three.

00:16:27.000 What do you do?

00:16:29.000 How can you take it?

00:16:30.000 Sometimes the poop explodes in the diaper.

00:16:32.000 It hits the onesie, but now you have to take the onesie off over the baby's head.

00:16:36.000 As you can tell, I've had some experience with baby onesies.

00:16:38.000 That was not the end of Bernie's insanity.

00:16:40.000 He then asked RFK Jr. if health care is a right, and RFK Jr. gave the correct answer, which is not the way you mean it.

00:16:46.000 Is health care a human right?

00:16:49.000 In the way that...

00:16:51.000 Free speech is a human right?

00:16:53.000 Yeah.

00:16:53.000 I would say it's different because with free speech it doesn't cost anybody anything, but in healthcare, if you smoke cigarettes for 20 years and you get cancer, you are now taking from the pool.

00:17:11.000 And so are you guaranteed the same rate or is there also a duty?

00:17:16.000 I'm sorry.

00:17:16.000 Okay, so that is the correct answer.

00:17:19.000 Okay, the correct answer when someone says, Is X a right?

00:17:22.000 You have to ask, what do you mean by that?

00:17:24.000 There are many different types of quote-unquote rights.

00:17:26.000 What Bernie means is, do you think it's a good thing that everybody should have?

00:17:30.000 And the answer to that is sure.

00:17:31.000 That doesn't mean it's a right.

00:17:31.000 If you're demanding a service from somebody, it's no longer a right.

00:17:35.000 I don't have a right to food, for example.

00:17:37.000 I have a right to the ability to obtain food in a free system.

00:17:41.000 I don't have a right to food because that means that somebody else would have to provide me that food.

00:17:45.000 I do have a right to free speech because...

00:17:47.000 I do have the ability to demand from you that you not actually impede my ability to speak freely.

00:17:53.000 That is the difference between so-called negative rights and positive rights.

00:17:56.000 Positive rights is a conflict of terms.

00:17:59.000 It doesn't mean anything other than an entitlement.

00:18:02.000 Meanwhile, it wasn't just Bernie.

00:18:03.000 It was also Elizabeth Warren who sort of knocked off Timu Bernie.

00:18:07.000 Here she was, yelling at RFK Jr. and basically just redoing the lady screaming a cat meme.

00:18:13.000 If this is what Democrats...

00:18:15.000 Like, please, more of this.

00:18:16.000 Like, really.

00:18:17.000 How did you turn Republicans into the cool kids?

00:18:19.000 Well, probably with the lecturing school marm, fake Native American, who is the senator from Massachusetts. 0.87

00:18:26.000 Mr. Kennedy, it's just a really simple question.

00:18:29.000 You've taken in two and a half million dollars.

00:18:32.000 I want to know if you will commit right now that not only will you not go to work for drug companies, you won't go to work suing the drug companies and taking your rake out of that while you're a secretary and for four years after.

00:18:47.000 I'll commit to not taking any fees from drug companies while I'm secretary.

00:18:52.000 I'm asking about fees from suing drug companies.

00:18:57.000 Will you agree not to do that?

00:18:59.000 You're asking me to not sue drug companies.

00:19:02.000 No, you can sue drug companies as much as you want.

00:19:06.000 I'm not going to agree to not sue drug companies or anybody.

00:19:11.000 I mean, first of all, it's kind of amazing that what Elizabeth Warren is doing there is what she's what she's trying to do is she's trying to suggest that RFK Jr. would be corrupt if he sued the companies that he is regulating as HHS.

00:19:26.000 normally, The corruption allegation is that you go and you work for the companies that you're regulating at these various agencies.

00:19:32.000 That's usually the rip.

00:19:34.000 Pete Hegseth, for example, was asked about this by Mazie Hirono during his hearing when he was being nominated for Secretary of Defense.

00:19:41.000 The question is, are you going to go work, for example, for some sort of defense contractor afterward?

00:19:45.000 That's the normal question.

00:19:46.000 But she's not asking whether he's going to go work for Pfizer.

00:19:48.000 She's asking if he will refrain from suing Pfizer after he's the head of HHS, which is a super weird take.

00:19:54.000 Now again, I think that Big Pharma gets a horrible rap in the United States as a general rule.

00:19:58.000 Big Pharma has developed literally every drug that you and your parents rely on.

00:20:02.000 All of them.

00:20:02.000 And your kids.

00:20:04.000 So Big Pharma does bad things, just like every other corporation does bad things.

00:20:07.000 But this notion that Big Pharma is uniquely bad when they develop literally all of the life-saving things that surround you in the world is a bizarre one to me.

00:20:15.000 Nonetheless, Elizabeth Warren was attacking him from the right there. 1.00

00:20:18.000 It's super duper duper weird.

00:20:21.000 Meanwhile, Maggie Hassan.

00:20:23.000 The senator from New Hampshire, she was ripping on RFK Jr., suggesting that he had sold out his life's work by now suggesting that he would be part of a pro-life administration.

00:20:35.000 When was it that you decided to sell out the values you've had your whole life in order to be given power by President Trump?

00:20:43.000 Senator, I agree with President Trump that every abortion is a tragedy, that we can't be a moral authority in this country.

00:20:50.000 Right, but that isn't what you said back in New Hampshire.

00:20:53.000 In 2023. My question is exactly when did you decide to sell out your life's work and values to get this position?

00:21:01.000 Senator, I agree with President Trump that every abortion is a tragedy.

00:21:06.000 So what you're telling us, just to be clear because my time is limited, is that regardless of what you believe, regardless of what values you have, if President Trump tells you to do something, you're going to do it.

00:21:19.000 Again, this is the take?

00:21:20.000 This is your take?

00:21:21.000 Fine.

00:21:21.000 Well, RFK Jr. does care very deeply about nutrition, and you know what?

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00:23:35.000 Okay, so the Democrats decided to go hard after RFK Jr. using these particular lines.

00:23:39.000 Again, the only effective line of attack on RFK Jr. in this hearing.

00:23:43.000 Was basically just asking him about past comments and he spent most of the time rebutting that.

00:23:47.000 But if Bernie yelling about onesies and Elizabeth Warren going nuts over RFK Jr. are your methodology, good luck.

00:23:55.000 Also, I'm sorry, you blew it here.

00:23:57.000 You really did.

00:23:58.000 Sorry, Democrats do not get to complain about their own nominees when they nominated people like Rachel Levine to the assistant HHS secretary.

00:24:06.000 Remember Rachel Levine?

00:24:07.000 The dude?

00:24:08.000 The fake admiral?

00:24:09.000 Remember that?

00:24:12.000 Hello.

00:24:12.000 I'm Admiral Rachel Levine.

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00:25:00.000 This person was approved by Democrats.

00:25:02.000 This person was championed by Democrats.

00:25:05.000 And now it's like, okay, RFK Jr. is too weird.

00:25:07.000 All right, again.

00:25:08.000 I might have respected that position if you guys weren't so weird yourselves.

00:25:11.000 And again, there are going to be questions about how RFK Jr. does his job.

00:25:15.000 I hope that he is held to the standard that he set for himself in the hearings, meaning no cramdowns on Americans' ability to choose what kind of foods they want to eat.

00:25:23.000 No attempts to simply punish companies for not doing the will of HHS. No shutting down of R&D that would actually be useful.

00:25:32.000 I mean, there's some R&D that really is counterproductive, as we saw from Dr. Anthony Fauci and the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

00:25:38.000 But not attempting to shut down research.

00:25:40.000 You're going to judge him by the fruits of his labors over at HHS. But I don't think Democrats really laid a glove on Bobby Kennedy yesterday, which is indicative of their total failure across the board since they lost the last election cycle.

00:25:51.000 Meanwhile, speaking of that failure, President Trump continues to succeed along the lines of cracking down on illegal immigration.

00:25:57.000 Yesterday, he signed into law the Lakin-Riley Act.

00:26:00.000 The Lakin-Riley Act, of course, was designed to crack down on criminal illegal immigration in the United States.

00:26:07.000 In doing so, he praised Democrats who signed on to the act.

00:26:09.000 the act many of them did. - I very much especially appreciate the bipartisan support.

00:26:15.000 The Democrats, really a big percentage of them came through and plenty of them wanted to, they probably felt they couldn't but they really wanted to.

00:26:23.000 That they don't understand that would have made them a lot more popular, would have made them a lot better with their people.

00:26:30.000 The ones that didn't are gonna be, they're gonna be sorry because the people are not gonna forget that they wouldn't sign This is a perfect, incredible tribute to an unbelievable young lady.

00:26:43.000 So, what exactly did the Lake and Riley Act do?

00:26:46.000 Well, it orders ICE to detain illegal immigrants for crimes like theft, and it allows states to sue the Department of Homeland Security over harm caused to citizens by illegal immigrants. 0.74

00:26:55.000 That obviously is a strong act that had a bunch of Democratic support.

00:27:01.000 Trump is winning on this particular issue.

00:27:03.000 He's also expanding his mandate.

00:27:05.000 On this particular issue.

00:27:07.000 So yesterday, President Trump announced that Gitmo would essentially be turned into a housing facility for the worst criminal illegal immigrants in the United States. 0.99

00:27:16.000 According to the Wall Street Journal, he ordered the Pentagon and Department of Homeland Security to construct a facility for holding as many as 30,000 migrants at Guantanamo Bay.

00:27:24.000 The U.S. Navy base in Cuba, the site of a prison for more than two decades, where terrorist suspects would instead be used to contain the worst criminal illegal immigrants. 0.98

00:27:31.000 Here's President Trump announcing it yesterday.

00:27:33.000 Today I'm also signing an executive order to instruct the Departments of Defense and Homeland Security to begin preparing the 30,000-person migrant facility at Guantanamo Bay.

00:27:45.000 Most people don't even know about it.

00:27:47.000 We have 30,000 beds in Guantanamo to detain the worst criminal illegal aliens threatening the American people. 0.92

00:27:56.000 Some of them are so bad we don't even trust the countries to hold them.

00:27:59.000 Because we don't want them coming back, so we're going to send them out to Guantanamo. 0.97

00:28:03.000 This will double our capacity immediately, right?

00:28:06.000 And tough.

00:28:08.000 That's a tough place to get out of.

00:28:10.000 Okay, well, this, I think, is going to be a popular notion for Americans who don't wish to see violent illegal immigrants in the United States. 0.99

00:28:18.000 According to the Wall Street Journal, opening 30,000 additional detention beds would almost double ICE's capacity to hold migrants ahead of their deportations.

00:28:25.000 Congress has allotted funding for detaining as many as 41,000 immigrants.

00:28:29.000 At a time, a historically high number Trump's team considers inadequate as it tries to carry out mass deportation.

00:28:35.000 This is not the first time Gitmo has been used this way.

00:28:37.000 It was used this way during the 80s and the 90s.

00:28:39.000 Kristi Noem, the newly approved head of the Department of Homeland Security, she said, listen, this is something we've done in the past.

00:28:44.000 We're already doing it, actually.

00:28:47.000 There is already facilities there that are housing illegal immigrants, and it's the worst of the worst that are kept there. 1.00

00:28:53.000 Many times those who are sent there are gang members, you know, people that have created terrorist activities in the United States of America and have been a real danger and threat to our people.

00:29:04.000 So what we'll be doing is utilizing our resources to expand the capacity there and to make sure that as we continue to do what President Trump has talked about and in deporting people who are here illegally and are making our streets much more dangerous is that we're going to utilize Guantanamo Bay to a more expansive purpose.

00:29:23.000 And that we will be going and putting resources there to make sure we have the space to getting people out of this country right away that will make sure our country much more safe. 0.99

00:29:34.000 Well, again, I think the entire administration is on the same page.

00:29:38.000 This is very different from Trump 1.0.

00:29:40.000 Everybody is moving in lockstep inside the Trump administration.

00:29:44.000 Pete Hegsat, the new Secretary of Defense, he said something similar.

00:29:47.000 He said, listen, we're ramping up mass deportations.

00:29:49.000 This is a plan in movement, but not in movement because we're behind, but because we're ramping up for the possibility to expand mass deportations because President Trump is dead serious about getting illegal criminals out of our country.

00:30:02.000 And the DOD is not only willing to, is proud to partner with DHS to defend the sovereignty of our southern border and advance that mission.

00:30:10.000 Now, again, this is a whole of administration approach.

00:30:14.000 And President Trump is not slowing down on any of this.

00:30:17.000 Now, Colombia had, of course, talked back to the United States, suggested they weren't going to take illegal immigrants that were deported from the United States.

00:30:24.000 Trump said, you're going to take exactly what we send you.

00:30:26.000 For the first time in history, we're loading dangerous and illegal aliens into military aircraft and flying them back to the places from which they came. 0.99

00:30:36.000 You probably read about Colombia two days ago.

00:30:38.000 They said, no, we're not taking them.

00:30:40.000 They said, we're going to take them.

00:30:42.000 You're going to take them.

00:30:43.000 You're going to like it too.

00:30:44.000 You're going to take them.

00:30:47.000 By the way, it is worth pointing out here that Democrats, again, have very little response to any of this other than to claim that you won't be able to get blackberries or blueberries in your smoothies because the illegal immigrants are picking all your fruit. 0.99

00:30:58.000 Again, it is kind of incredible that this is the only comeback they've been able to come up with after, what, 30 years of this conversation about illegal immigration?

00:31:06.000 Is your mangoes might be more expensive?

00:31:07.000 Really?

00:31:08.000 That's what you got, guys.

00:31:10.000 Really that?

00:31:12.000 I can't wait until American women can't get blueberries for their smoothies. 1.00

00:31:21.000 I cannot wait until there is a full crackdown on all small businesses as if that's going to be the solution to the immigration problem. 1.00

00:31:30.000 It is just going to put immigration-related issues further into the darker corners.

00:31:36.000 We're not going to see them.

00:31:38.000 It's just going to become even harder to solve the problem.

00:31:42.000 It doesn't make sense to punish individuals and people when there is a broken system.

00:31:49.000 Well, actually, it does make sense to actually fight the broken system by unbreaking the system and deporting the people who are illegally here. 1.00

00:31:56.000 Again, if your white lady privilege, which is we have to absorb 20 million illegal immigrants so that your blueberries can be a little bit cheaper for your protein smoothie. 1.00

00:32:07.000 I'm not sure what to tell you.

00:32:09.000 I feel like you might be just a little out of touch.

00:32:11.000 Just a little bit.

00:32:12.000 Meanwhile, the President of the United States continues his spate of very strong executive actions.

00:32:16.000 Yesterday, he issued an executive order ending racial indoctrination in K-12 schooling.

00:32:22.000 This, of course, is designed to end DEI indoctrination across the public school system.

00:32:27.000 The executive order suggests, quote, imprinting anti-American, subversive, harmful and false ideologies on our nation's children not only violates longstanding anti-discrimination civil rights law in many cases, it usurps basic parental authority.

00:32:39.000 For example, steering students toward surgical and chemical mutilation without parental consent or involvement or allowing males access to private spaces designed for females may contravene federal laws that protect parental rights.

00:32:50.000 My administration will enforce the law to ensure recipients of federal funds providing K through 12 education comply with all applicable laws prohibiting discrimination in various contexts and protecting parental rights.

00:33:00.000 So this means no more if you're receiving federal funding.

00:33:03.000 of this nonsense where you socially transition a child.

00:33:06.000 No more indoctrinating kids at school to believe that they are inferior based on their white skin color.

00:33:11.000 No more of that.

00:33:12.000 That all goes away.

00:33:13.000 Meanwhile, the president issued another executive order attempting to broaden the possibility for school vouchers.

00:33:19.000 According to this brand new executive order, parents want and deserve the best education for their children.

00:33:24.000 Too many children do not thrive in their assigned government-run K-12 school.

00:33:28.000 According to this year's National Assessment of Educational Progress, 70% of 8th graders were below proficiency in reading, 72% were below proficiency in math.

00:33:36.000 Moreover, geographically based school assignments exacerbate the cost of housing in districts with preferred schools.

00:33:42.000 It is the policy of my administration to support parents in choosing and directing the upbringing and education of their children.

00:33:47.000 Within 60 days of the date of the order, the Secretary of Education shall issue guidance regarding how states can use federal formula funds to support K-12 educational choice initiatives.

00:33:57.000 The Secretary of Education shall now include education freedom as a priority in discretionary grant programs as appropriate and consistent with applicable law.

00:34:05.000 So the idea here would be to promote, as far as possible, the spread of school choice across the country, the great civil rights issue of our time, allowing children to go to the best school available to them, facilitating that.

00:34:16.000 We have universal school choice here in my wonderful home state of Florida.

00:34:19.000 It is a godsend.

00:34:20.000 It is wonderful.

00:34:21.000 And President Trump is trying to extend that across the country.

00:34:23.000 In just a moment, we'll get to more of President Trump's strong executive...

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00:35:05.000 Meanwhile, President Trump is using his executive power to also go after the universities.

00:35:10.000 And that is what he is doing yesterday when he put out an executive order, additional measures to combat anti-Semitism.

00:35:15.000 The goal here would be...

00:35:17.000 to force universities to actually enforce the civil rights law that they enforce on campus with regard to black students or Mexican students or Asian students to also apply to Jewish students.

00:35:28.000 So if you violate the Civil Rights Act, then you will lose your federal funding.

00:35:32.000 Again, this is a lever that the administration is using to go after these ridiculous Ivy League institutions.

00:35:38.000 It does not make illegal free speech.

00:35:40.000 I know there are a lot of people who are saying that.

00:35:41.000 That is not what it does.

00:35:42.000 That is not what it's designed to do.

00:35:43.000 President Trump would not do that.

00:35:45.000 That is not what it is designed to do.

00:35:47.000 Instead, what it is designed to do is go after the universities by suggesting, quote, a Trumpy, the policy of the United States to combat anti-Semitism vigorously using all available and appropriate legal tools to prosecute, remove, or otherwise hold accountable the perpetrators of unlawful anti-Semitic harassment and violence.

00:36:01.000 Unlawful being the key word right there.

00:36:04.000 Specifically, within 60 days, the head of each department or agency shall submit a report to the president identifying all civil and criminal authorities or actions within the jurisdiction of that agency Now,

00:36:28.000 again, this executive order specifically, specifically, goes out of its way to point out that it is not, in fact, dealing with speech issues here, that it is simply applying the Civil Rights Act.

00:36:42.000 Which, of course, was always the design of orders like this one, despite, I think, some misrepresentation in the media.

00:36:48.000 And meanwhile, some controversy has broken out.

00:36:51.000 Yesterday, the White House rescinded its order to freeze federal assistance and grants.

00:36:55.000 It didn't actually rescind the order to pause the spending.

00:36:58.000 What it did do is rescind the Office of Management and Budget memo that ordered the thing.

00:37:03.000 It is a little bit confusing, but according to the Wall Street Journal, the Trump administration rescinded its memo calling for federal agencies to pause potentially trillions of dollars in federal grants, loans, and other financial assisted programs as they, after a federal judge temporarily blocked the directive.

00:37:17.000 So the White House just withdrew the memo.

00:37:18.000 They They said, okay, fine.

00:37:20.000 In order to prevent an injunction from stopping us from pausing the spending, we'll remove the memo that was too broad and could be easily construed wrong.

00:37:29.000 Instead, what we are going to do is we're going to go with much more specific and targeted actions, which, of course, is the proper response.

00:37:35.000 The memo was a good window into what the administration is likely trying to do.

00:37:39.000 But to remove it is a way of mitigating its legal effect.

00:37:44.000 And instead, specific rescissions or specific grant pauses are going to be pursued by the administration.

00:37:51.000 Chuck Schumer, of course, took a victory lap on this one, even though he really shouldn't.

00:37:55.000 Donald Trump rescinded the OMB order.

00:37:59.000 Now he should rescind the nomination of Russell Vogt.

00:38:03.000 When the Trump administration announced...

00:38:06.000 This awful directive on Monday night, we knew immediately it was short-sighted, disastrous, cruel, and dumb.

00:38:15.000 It was clear then, as it is now, that the directive was given without any comprehension of what it actually called for, let alone the ramifications on literally hundreds of millions of Americans.

00:38:30.000 Again, this sort of exaggeration and craziness is really not going to have its intended effect.

00:38:35.000 Everybody can say, oh, it's chaos.

00:38:36.000 It's such chaos.

00:38:37.000 Okay, fine.

00:38:37.000 So they put out the memo.

00:38:39.000 A judge held up the memo.

00:38:41.000 They withdrew the memo.

00:38:42.000 These spending pauses are still going to continue with regard to DEI and trans propaganda and with regard to grants to foreign sources like the World Health Organization.

00:38:53.000 Stephen Miller said, quote, it became clear bureaucrats are still trying to funnel unapproved discretionary grants and funds to their pet projects.

00:38:58.000 You wouldn't believe the payments.

00:39:00.000 We've had to pause the last few days with bureaucrats trying to funnel money out the door. 0.92

00:39:03.000 Funnel money to the WHO, funnel money to resettlement agencies, funnel money to foreign countries.

00:39:07.000 And so, of course, you have to put a pause on these discretionary grants of funding and have a political review process.

00:39:13.000 Again, the goal here for the administration is to get the effect without providing the legal fodder for an injunction.

00:39:21.000 And that is correct.

00:39:22.000 The Wall Street Journal, I think, gets this right on its editorial page.

00:39:25.000 They say, quote, Trump's executive actions need to be nailed down and carefully explained, or they'll be torn apart by courts and agents of the status quo.

00:39:33.000 And I think that that's what you're seeing here, is a recognition in real time that the memo is going to be used as a weapon more by the left and the courts than it would be a weapon in favor of the Trump administration agenda.

00:39:43.000 And so they did the smart thing, they withdrew the memo, and now they're still moving forward with many of those same spending pauses.

00:39:49.000 The same holds true with regard to the offer of retirement to millions of federal employees.

00:39:54.000 Here's President Trump yesterday saying, listen.

00:39:56.000 It's pretty easy.

00:39:57.000 If you're a federal employee, show up to work, you're fired.

00:40:00.000 As federal employees, they must meet a high standard.

00:40:03.000 They're representing our government.

00:40:05.000 They're representing our country.

00:40:07.000 if they don't agree by February 6th to show up back to work in their office, they will be terminated and we will therefore be downscaling our government, which is something that the last 10 presidents have tried very hard to do but failed.

00:40:23.000 Most of the people we're talking about have not been going to their federal offices in many, many years, from even before COVID, but they have nevertheless been paid.

00:40:35.000 Some have worked, some haven't worked, and most of the studies say that some have just gone through the motions.

00:40:43.000 We may ask these people to prove that they didn't have another job during their...

00:40:49.000 So-called employment with the United States of America, because if they did, that would be unlawful.

00:40:55.000 Okay, he is right about this.

00:40:57.000 Caroline Lovett, who's the White House press secretary, said, listen, it's very simple.

00:41:00.000 Go back to war. 0.90

00:41:00.000 Why is it so difficult? 0.90

00:41:02.000 The question about these buyouts, you've been describing it, is this effort to get folks to return to work.

00:41:08.000 The union that represents federal workers, though, says this isn't a voluntary buyout.

00:41:11.000 They say this is a purge of people that don't agree with the president.

00:41:14.000 What's your response?

00:41:15.000 That's absolutely false.

00:41:17.000 This is a suggestion to federal workers that they have to return to work.

00:41:22.000 And if they don't, then they have the option to resign.

00:41:24.000 And this administration is very generously offering to pay them for eight months.

00:41:29.000 6% of the federal workforce in the city actually shows up to work.

00:41:33.000 That's unacceptable.

00:41:34.000 We're all here at work at the office.

00:41:36.000 There are law enforcement officers and teachers and nurses across the country who showed up to the office today.

00:41:42.000 People in this city need to do the same.

00:41:44.000 It's an overwhelmingly popular policy with people outside of Washington, D.C.

00:41:47.000 President campaigned on this and his administration's keeping the promise.

00:41:51.000 Again, Carolyn Lovett happens to be correct about all of this.

00:41:54.000 Meanwhile, Democrats are freaking out over Caroline Lovett.

00:41:58.000 It is amazing what kind of sexism you can get away with if you're a Democrat.

00:42:00.000 Joy Behar yesterday on The View suggested the only reason that this press secretary was hired by Trump is because, quote, she's a 10, which I'm not sure if that's an insult. 0.54

00:42:08.000 It feels like kind of a backhanded compliment.

00:42:10.000 Also, Joy Behar is from Hollywood, where literally everyone gets cast, except for Joy Behar, apparently, based on the basis of some sort of physical appeal.

00:42:21.000 I mean, you don't see a lot of normies making it big in Hollywood.

00:42:25.000 She's probably been put in there because according to Donald Trump, she's a 10. You know that's what it is.

00:42:31.000 I want to be clear, though.

00:42:32.000 It's not her first job.

00:42:33.000 It was her first press briefing.

00:42:34.000 She worked in the previous Trump administration.

00:42:35.000 This is the first time that she's been...

00:42:39.000 She may be.

00:42:41.000 But my point is that job would not maybe have been open to her without us.

00:42:46.000 No, I understand.

00:42:47.000 I just wanted to clarify that.

00:42:48.000 Okay, so apparently it's bad that Caroline Lovett is pretty. 1.00

00:42:52.000 It would be better if she were hideous. 1.00

00:42:54.000 We need like a hideously ugly person to be the White House press secretary. 1.00

00:42:58.000 I mean, if a Republican said that about a Democrat, that the reason that a woman was picked was because she was pretty, then probably the world would cave in about their ears.

00:43:10.000 Now, the reality is that Democrats do pick people based on external characteristics all the time.

00:43:14.000 They just openly say it.

00:43:16.000 They constantly do that sort of thing.

00:43:19.000 There's this bizarre sense among the Democrats that...

00:43:23.000 Finally, for the first time, they are beginning to recognize that they may have alienated traditional basic standards of beauty.

00:43:28.000 One of the big controversies that's broken out over the course of the last 72 hours is this New York magazine cover that shows a bunch of very attractive young people at C.J. Pearson's party, his inaugural party, last week.

00:43:39.000 And the idea from the Democrats is these are all cruel kids, but all they are is just normal, good-looking young people who are partying for Trump.

00:43:47.000 If those are the people that you guys lost, that's kind of your fault.

00:43:49.000 If you're the ones who decided that you wanted to steer directly into the Our mainstream base is going to be blue-haired lesbians with seven earrings and a navel piercing and seven tattoos on the neck. 1.00

00:44:00.000 If that's what you guys, like, no one made you do that.

00:44:04.000 That was you who did that.

00:44:06.000 So, I mean, Carolyn Lovett, you can find good-looking people to be your press secretaries too, I would assume. 0.64

00:44:13.000 Or can you not?

00:44:14.000 And if not, what does that say about you?

00:44:16.000 Very strange stuff from the Democrats, if this is their particular angle.

00:44:21.000 Pretty wild.

00:44:22.000 Meanwhile, Jerome Powell has paused rate cuts over at the Fed.

00:44:25.000 I suggested this was going to happen, that the rate cuts were going to be ramped up just before the election in an attempt to get Kamala Harris over the finish line, inject a little bit more money in the economy, hope to blow up the stock market a little bit just in time for the election, and then the inflation would kick in, and then the Federal Reserve would stop.

00:44:41.000 Well, that's exactly what happened.

00:44:43.000 The Federal Reserve has now stopped the interest rate cuts.

00:44:46.000 Now, my suggestion had been that they never should have engaged in interest rate cuts in the first place.

00:44:49.000 We had not conquered inflation yet.

00:44:50.000 Preemptively cutting the interest rates was not going to be a good idea.

00:44:54.000 It was going to artificially boost more air into an already inflated economy.

00:44:58.000 But Jerome Powell is doing this a little bit belatedly.

00:45:02.000 Again, this idea that low interest rates is sort of the only thing that creates a workable economy is very far from the truth.

00:45:09.000 Interest rates need to float with the level of risk in the economy, obviously.

00:45:14.000 Jerome Powell says, quote, with interest rates now significantly less restrictive than they were before last year's cuts, we do not need to be in a hurry to adjust our policy stance.

00:45:21.000 So apparently, the central bank will likely hold at its meeting in mid-March.

00:45:26.000 And Powell said that the Fed would need to see real progress on inflation or unexpected weakness in the labor market before considering further rate reductions, which again, I think makes a lot of sense. 0.57

00:45:35.000 I just wish she had done it earlier and not artificially lowered those interest rates in an attempt to boost Kamala Harris just before the election. 1.00

00:45:44.000 Joining me on the line is the newly confirmed administrator of the Environmental Protection Agency, Lee Zeldin.

00:45:50.000 Lee, congratulations on the confirmation, and you've got a big agenda ahead of you.

00:45:56.000 Looking forward to hitting the ground running, Ben, and great to be with you.

00:45:59.000 Yeah, we're very excited about it.

00:46:00.000 So let's talk about your top priorities for the EPA. Obviously, the EPA has been used as a tool of the left for a very long time in order to cram down environmental policies that really are less about the environment and more about damaging the American economy or reshaping how the American economy is done.

00:46:13.000 What are your top priorities as the new EPA administrator?

00:46:18.000 So the mission of the EPA is protecting Human health and the environment.

00:46:22.000 It's important when you're doing it that you're cognizant of what the American public spoke loudly, clearly as past November.

00:46:28.000 They also care about How are these policies applied impacting lives?

00:46:35.000 All Americans want clean air and clean water.

00:46:37.000 How we go about doing it is key.

00:46:40.000 Having the cleanest, safest, healthiest air, land, and water, I think, is a goal, regardless of whether you're a conservative, a moderate, a liberal, a red, purple, blue state, it doesn't matter.

00:46:50.000 But we have to have smart...

00:46:52.000 Common sense, practical solutions that aren't going to result in people struggling to make ends meet, not having choice, being unable to obtain a vehicle that they want or to be able to power their home in an affordable way.

00:47:06.000 So it's just really important that we do our job smartly.

00:47:09.000 So Administrator Seldon, one of the things you've talked about here is making America the AI capital of the world.

00:47:14.000 I hear that and I think a lot of people hear that.

00:47:16.000 What does that have to do with the EPA per se?

00:47:20.000 AI requires a lot of access to energy.

00:47:23.000 And here in our country, there's going to be an increased demand.

00:47:28.000 And in order for America to be the AI capital of the world, we're going to have to meet this moment.

00:47:34.000 And if we make a strategic decision not to, it's not like the world is going to wait to advance.

00:47:41.000 It's only going to be a situation where we're witnessing China get further ahead of the United States.

00:47:48.000 So we have to meet this moment.

00:47:50.000 Our policies as it relates to the regulation of energy, the president's priority as it relates to making our country a nation that's unleashing energy dominance, understanding that the cleanest forms of energy are coming out of America thanks to American innovation.

00:48:09.000 This is a moment for us to meet and to ensure that we are winning this battle, that it is the United States of America that is the AI capital of the world.

00:48:18.000 President Trump obviously has a very aggressive agenda.

00:48:20.000 One of the things that he's faced in the past are people within the executive branch who may not like that agenda, who may oppose that agenda, and who may do things to get in the way of that agenda.

00:48:29.000 The EPA is a big agency.

00:48:31.000 You're talking 17,000 employees, an $11 billion budget.

00:48:34.000 How do you handle an agency of that size and ensure that actually President Trump's agenda and your agenda as the administrator actually get done?

00:48:42.000 Our agency needs to follow the rule of the law.

00:48:45.000 We need to follow our obligations under the law.

00:48:48.000 We can't be going rogue and interpreting some vague language in some law however we see fit.

00:48:56.000 The Supreme Court made very clear in the Loperbright decision overturning the Chevron doctrine that it's important for federal agencies to be following the letter of the law.

00:49:07.000 We need to be accountable to the people.

00:49:09.000 We need to be transparent with the public.

00:49:11.000 And we need to ensure that we're being as productive as possible and operating in a way that the American people can be proud of.

00:49:17.000 We can't be wasting tax dollars.

00:49:19.000 And it's important that we are doing our mission in the smartest, best way, most transparent way possible.

00:49:26.000 That is a commitment across the board they care about.

00:49:29.000 And one thing I would add to on top of it, Ben, is cooperative federalism and working with states for there to be a partnership.

00:49:38.000 And it's not just all being run out of some headquarters in Washington, D.C.

00:49:43.000 That collaboration with the states is going to be important.

00:49:45.000 You mentioned before auto jobs and the needs of the American consumer and the American worker.

00:49:51.000 Obviously that's high on President Trump's list of priorities.

00:49:54.000 Very often these two things are sort of put in opposition to one another, protecting the environment and protecting American jobs.

00:49:59.000 What do you make of that and how do you plan to square that circle?

00:50:03.000 There's a lot that goes into bringing back American auto jobs.

00:50:07.000 The EPA needs to ensure that we're doing our part to assist with that mission.

00:50:12.000 We don't want to see our American auto jobs disappearing, getting moved to other countries.

00:50:19.000 There is a need for certainty when investment is being made here, permitting reform.

00:50:25.000 Research is done within the EPA. Now, the American economy.

00:50:51.000 President Trump has already put forth notice that he's interested in cutting wasteful programs implemented by the Biden administration over the course of time.

00:50:59.000 I assume that you are going to have a pretty weathered eye when you look at sort of the cost structure inside the EPA.

00:51:05.000 Bye.

00:51:05.000 Thank you.

00:51:06.000 I don't want us wasting any money.

00:51:09.000 It doesn't matter what agency you are, and the EPA is no exception.

00:51:12.000 It's important for us to be good stewards of tax dollars.

00:51:15.000 There was a video that came out.

00:51:18.000 It was about a month or so ago.

00:51:20.000 Where there was somebody who was a political appointee here at the EPA talking about how they were tossing gold bars off the Titanic.

00:51:28.000 And this person in the video said it a few times.

00:51:30.000 They were trying to get money out the door, billions of dollars out the door by Inauguration Day.

00:51:35.000 When I hear tossing gold bars off the Titanic, to me, gold bars are tax dollars, and off the Titanic means that you know you're wasting it.

00:51:43.000 In the video, they also talked about how they were giving out money with an eye towards getting jobs at the recipient NGOs.

00:51:49.000 It is so important that not only are we being careful and not wasting billions of dollars, we shouldn't be wasting pennies.

00:51:57.000 And that's my job at the top.

00:51:59.000 Well, that is EPA Administrator Lee Zeldin.

00:52:02.000 Lee, again, congratulations on your confirmation.

00:52:04.000 Look forward to seeing what you do at the head of the Environmental Protection Agency.

00:52:09.000 Congratulations again.

00:52:11.000 Thanks a lot, Ben.

00:52:12.000 All right, guys, coming up, we'll get to the release of Israeli hostages.

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The Ben Shapiro Show - January 30, 2025

Bernie Goes NUTS: DENOUNCE THE ONESIES!

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