The Ben Shapiro Show - Biden Takes A Victory Lap | Ep. 1608

00:00:00.000 We examine the latest election results.

00:00:01.000 Yes, they are still coming in, fully two days after the election.

00:00:05.000 Joe Biden takes a triumphant victory lap and prepares for a 2024 run.

00:00:08.000 And Donald Trump considers his options.

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00:02:30.000 Well, election month goes on.

00:02:31.000 I know it's supposed to be election day and we were supposed to have results that night, like the great state of Florida did, but nope.

00:02:36.000 It is now Thursday, the election was Tuesday, and we are still counting votes in Nevada, where a single blind nun in Mozambique is apparently tabulating all of the votes. 0.99

00:02:45.000 The same thing is happening in Arizona, where apparently a similarly situated blind nun, this time in Saskatchewan, is tabulating all the votes. 0.83

00:02:52.000 The votes are still coming in.

00:02:53.000 In Nevada, it looks as though Adam Laxalt is going to pull off his race against Catherine Cortez Masto, which puts the Republicans at 50 seats in the Senate.

00:03:02.000 Which means that the Republicans need to win one of the final two outstanding seats.

00:03:05.000 Arizona is still up for grabs.

00:03:07.000 Blake Masters looks like he is trailing there.

00:03:08.000 It is very likely that he loses in that race.

00:03:11.000 Over in Georgia, the race is headed to a runoff.

00:03:13.000 So once again, control of the Senate will come down to a runoff in Georgia, as we are used to, as has become our custom here in the United States.

00:03:20.000 This time, Hershel Walker is not going to have Brian Kemp's coattails to hang on to.

00:03:25.000 To cling to, to drag him into victory.

00:03:27.000 So Republicans presumably are going to have to put every effort into elevating Herschel Walker, an extraordinarily weak candidate in the state of Georgia.

00:03:33.000 I say he's extraordinarily weak because again, Brian Kemp walked all over, stomped Stacey Abrams in the gubernatorial election.

00:03:39.000 Pretty much any generic Republican in the Senate would have beaten Raphael Warnock, but Herschel Walker is not generic R. And as we have learned, not generic R very often does worse than generic R.

00:03:48.000 So Adam Laxalt with about 80% of the vote in, 80 plus percent of the vote in, is still about 15,000 votes over Catherine Cortez Masto.

00:03:56.000 Many of the outstanding areas trend Republican.

00:04:00.000 Predictions are that he is going to end up taking that seat.

00:04:03.000 Meanwhile, as we say in Arizona, votes are still being counted.

00:04:06.000 Carrie Lake could still end up as governor of Arizona. 1.00

00:04:09.000 That race has gotten extraordinarily close.

00:04:11.000 The current outstanding vote count has Carrie Lake down in the single thousands of votes. 0.67

00:04:18.000 Somewhere between 10,000 and 20,000 votes is where she is right now, but a lot of the results are still coming in.

00:04:24.000 Arizona still has one quarter of the vote to count, and the gubernatorial election is just too close to call at this point.

00:04:30.000 So Carrie Lake could still pull that one out on the governor's side. 1.00

00:04:33.000 On the Senate side, Blake Masters is lagging fairly badly.

00:04:37.000 Carrie Lake at this point with about 75% of the vote in, 76% of the vote in. 1.00

00:04:41.000 She has about 941,000 raw votes.

00:04:44.000 Meanwhile, Blake Masters only has about 884,000 raw votes.

00:04:48.000 So that's a pretty serious lag.

00:04:49.000 Some split ticket voting going on over in Arizona.

00:04:54.000 Meanwhile, as we say, the Georgia runoff is coming.

00:04:57.000 It's going to be a barn burner once again.

00:05:00.000 People in Georgia are begging Trump to stay out of it because last time Donald Trump lost two Senate seats in Georgia.

00:05:05.000 So we'll see how that one plays out.

00:05:08.000 In other words, some of the Democrat major triumphalism is out of place.

00:05:12.000 This was not a wave election for Republicans.

00:05:14.000 It was barely a trickle for Republicans, but it is quite possible, not probable, but possible that Republicans end up in control of the Senate by one vote and they will end up in control of the House If they do lose the House, the Democrats, then they may have New York and Florida to blame.

00:05:30.000 Which means largely New York, because a lot of the people who came down to Florida are from New York.

00:05:34.000 Except it's a lot of Republicans who came down from Florida to New York.

00:05:36.000 Lee Zeldin, who did not win his gubernatorial race against Kathy Hochul, but only lost by five to six points.

00:05:41.000 He apparently had serious coattails and he dragged a bunch of Republican candidates in New York State to victory, according to the New York Times.

00:05:47.000 As Democrats sought to maintain their narrow House majority in this year's midterms, they counted on New York to be a crucial bulwark instead.

00:05:52.000 As the party mostly outperformed dire predictions across the country Tuesday night, one of the nation's most liberal states morphed into perhaps the most powerful drag on its chances.

00:05:59.000 Channeling angst over persistent crime and inflation, Republicans ran a nearly clean sweep through the slate of New York's congressional toss-up races.

00:06:06.000 While their parties struggled in swing states like Virginia and Michigan, Republican candidates made inroads deep into the suburbs of Long Island and the Hudson Valley, even into pockets of Brooklyn and Queens, where President Biden had won handily.

00:06:16.000 When they were done, Republicans had flipped four Democratic House seats more than any other state.

00:06:20.000 They'd won a staggering prize, the defeat of Representative Sean Patrick Maloney, who was the House Democratic campaign chairman charged with protecting his party's hold on Congress.

00:06:28.000 So Democrats did exceedingly poorly in New York.

00:06:30.000 Again, reading this election as a referendum on excellent democratic governance is wrong.

00:06:35.000 This election ended up being a referendum on crazy people, on bad candidates, on candidates who simply were not up to snuff and were nominated because of enthusiasm of the base very often for President Trump or for election 2020.

00:06:47.000 But this was not about a green light for all the Democrats policies.

00:06:52.000 This was a rebuke to Democrats, but what will be fascinating to see is if Democrats refuse the rebuke.

00:06:56.000 If Democrats see this instead of a rebuke, sort of a rebuke that was that was sort of softened by the bad quality of many Republican candidates and the distracted nature of their campaigns.

00:07:07.000 If Democrats instead see this as a triumph, this could be a big mistake for them.

00:07:11.000 Joe Biden obviously sees it that way.

00:07:12.000 We're going to get to him in just one second.

00:07:15.000 The big stat that came out of this election is how independents voted.

00:07:18.000 So I said this before the election.

00:07:19.000 This one I got right.

00:07:21.000 So I was a little too enthusiastic about Republican chances beforehand because the polling seemed to be moving all in one direction.

00:07:26.000 It seemed as though the Republican wave was coming.

00:07:29.000 And then it just sort of dissipated.

00:07:32.000 Why?

00:07:32.000 Well, this is the one thing I did say.

00:07:34.000 How independent voters decided was going to decide this election.

00:07:39.000 In 2010, independent voters broke like two to one for Republicans.

00:07:43.000 In 2018, independent voters broke on behalf of Democrats.

00:07:47.000 Independent voters should have broken heavy on behalf of Republicans, considering that Joe Biden has a 28% approval rating with independent voters in the United States.

00:07:54.000 They did not.

00:07:56.000 If a single stat tells the story of this election, it is that independent voters broke 49-48 for the Democrats.

00:08:04.000 49-48, what does that say?

00:08:05.000 What that says is that they were looking at Republican candidates and they said, these guys are not serious, we can't hand them power.

00:08:11.000 It didn't say that they love Democratic policies.

00:08:13.000 The exit polls showed Americans don't like Democratic policies.

00:08:16.000 They think the Democrats are wrong on the economy.

00:08:17.000 They think the Democrats are wrong on crime.

00:08:19.000 They think the Democrats are wrong on illegal immigration.

00:08:23.000 There's really only two areas where Democrats dominated.

00:08:26.000 One was responsibility for government, because again, Republicans ran a lot of very irresponsible candidates.

00:08:31.000 And two, abortion, which we'll get to in just one second.

00:08:35.000 And as a pro-lifer, This speaks to what kind of strategy pro-lifers should use going forward, particularly when running for federal office.

00:08:42.000 According to the Wall Street Journal, Democrats appeared to hold off the steep losses in Congress if preliminary results pulled up that are traditional for the president's party in midterm years.

00:08:51.000 They did so in large part because their own voters came to the polls with unusual enthusiasm and swing voters broke in their direction.

00:08:56.000 Again, that is a shocker.

00:08:58.000 Swing voters breaking the direction.

00:08:59.000 In many states that were decided by the narrowest margins in 2020, Democrats came closer to matching their presidential year vote totals than did their GOP opponents.

00:09:06.000 In Pennsylvania's race for an open Senate seat, the winner, Democrat John Fetterman, who is not with us, drew about 76% of President Biden's 2020 vote total.

00:09:13.000 Republican Mehmet Oz drew 73% of the vote that went to former President Donald Trump.

00:09:17.000 Now, Mehmet Oz was not a good candidate.

00:09:19.000 It also happens to be the case that a lot of people split their ticket.

00:09:23.000 Meaning that a lot of people voted for Josh Shapiro and then voted for Mehmet Oz in the Senate election.

00:09:28.000 What if the Republicans had not run Doug Mastriano, a person who literally went to QAnon rallies just before he was nominated?

00:09:35.000 What if they had nominated someone who is significantly more palatable in a purple state?

00:09:39.000 Instead, they didn't.

00:09:40.000 And so the Republicans did poorly with independents.

00:09:43.000 Democrats notched an unusual achievement.

00:09:45.000 They brought their own supporters to the polls in large numbers while persuading independent voters that Republican candidates were an unacceptable alternative.

00:09:51.000 Independent voters were expected to break for the GOP because of economic anxiety.

00:09:55.000 Instead, backed Democratic candidates by three percentage points nationally, according to one large survey of the 2020 electorate, 2022 electorate called AP VoteCast.

00:10:02.000 Independence broke for Democrats by far larger margins in many states with competitive Senate races, by 19 points in Pennsylvania, 28 points in Georgia, more than 30 points in Arizona.

00:10:12.000 Candidate quality matters.

00:10:15.000 So very few of the Democrats cross the aisle to vote for the Republicans.

00:10:19.000 But a lot of people who are independent cross the aisle to vote in favor of the Democrats.

00:10:24.000 In Georgia, where the survey asked about the personal quality of Senate candidates, 56% of voters told VoteCast they believed that Raphael Warnock had the right experience for the job.

00:10:32.000 Only 40% said that former football star Herschel Walker had the right experience.

00:10:38.000 Scott Reid, Republican and former chief political strategist for the U.S.

00:10:40.000 Chamber of Commerce, said that Republicans had everything going for them.

00:10:43.000 Trump turned out to be the deciding factor, picking a lot of second-rate candidates.

00:10:45.000 In the final three weeks, he made the election about him.

00:10:47.000 Now, again, losing independence in a year when the president has a 28% approval rating with independence is a shocker.

00:10:55.000 And the only rationale for that is that the Republicans ran some really bad candidates.

00:11:01.000 It also happens to be that abortion turned out to be a major issue.

00:11:03.000 So if you look at the exit polls, the economy was in fact the number one issue.

00:11:06.000 According to the CBS News exit poll, something like 32% of the Americans, the American voters said that the economy, inflation, that was their top issue.

00:11:13.000 27% said abortion was their top issue.

00:11:15.000 Now, For Republicans to have avoided any blowback from Roe v. Wade at the federal level would have not been all that hard.

00:11:23.000 All Republicans would have had to do is say, this is a state-level issue.

00:11:26.000 I am running for Senate.

00:11:28.000 This is a state-level issue.

00:11:29.000 I am running for Congress.

00:11:32.000 Roe v. Wade says the overruling of Roe v. Wade in Dobbs literally says this is a state-level issue.

00:11:39.000 It is highly doubtful, by the way, whether any significant pro-life legislation at the federal level would be greenlit by the Supreme Court anyway.

00:11:46.000 So federal candidates should be saying, no matter how pro-life they are, if you're a pro-life person and you wish to see legislation passed in your state, which is mostly how restrictions on abortion are going to get passed, if you wish to see that happen, it has to be relegated back to the states.

00:11:59.000 And in order to get those restrictions passed, you actually have to win.

00:12:03.000 And losing, but being very loud about losing, does not do you any good in helping to save the lives of the pre-born.

00:12:09.000 So if you wish to save the lives of the pre-born, perhaps you ought to be strategic about it. 0.97

00:12:12.000 This is why in purple states, for example, pro-lifers would be wise not to go for broke.

00:12:17.000 A lot of pro-lifers in states like Michigan, which is a very, very purple state.

00:12:20.000 It is a purple to blue state.

00:12:22.000 If you push forward with a full ban on abortion in Michigan, that is going to get rejected.

00:12:27.000 And that's precisely what happened in Michigan.

00:12:29.000 Instead, abortion got enshrined in Michigan.

00:12:32.000 Instead, if you're in a purple state, what you do is you gradually push that line backwards.

00:12:36.000 That's on state-level elections.

00:12:37.000 When it comes to the federal, when it comes to the Senate and the Congress, even when it comes to the presidency in 2024, pro-lifers would be wise to acknowledge that this is in fact a state-level issue until a constitutional amendment is passed to change the law.

00:12:51.000 As a practical matter, that is what it is going to be anyway, because the Supreme Court is not going to allow, if the federal Congress today Passed a law barring abortion from birth?

00:12:59.000 The Supreme Court would strike it down saying that it is not within the power of interstate commerce.

00:13:02.000 I'm just telling you that's what would happen.

00:13:04.000 Brett Kavanaugh essentially says as much in his concurrence in Dobbs.

00:13:09.000 Nonetheless, abortion did become an animating issue for a lot of Democrats.

00:13:13.000 I thought that Republicans were going to do a better job of avoiding this issue, but they didn't.

00:13:17.000 According to the New York Times, voters in three states, California, Vermont, and highly contested Michigan, decided to protect abortion rights in their state constitutions.

00:13:24.000 In a fourth, Kentucky, a conservative bastion and home to Mitch McConnell, voters rejected an amendment saying their constitution gave no right to an abortion.

00:13:32.000 For decades, abortion politics worked a certain way, rallying the Republican base and abortion opponents with far more intensity than abortion rights supporters.

00:13:39.000 Conservative evangelicals and Catholics often voted on abortion, or the future of the Supreme Court, even if it meant compromising other priorities.

00:13:44.000 But overturning Roe v. Wade appears to have flipped the script.

00:13:47.000 In the months since the June decision, Democrats seized on the issue, linking abortion to everyday family economics and health care, tapping into voter fears about the rise of far-right Republicans, and then they wove that into broader Democratic messaging about Republicans' extreme views.

00:14:00.000 By the way, this is statistically true.

00:14:01.000 I mean, the one group in America that went heavily for the Democrats is single women. 0.72

00:14:05.000 Single women went heavily for the Democrats.

00:14:08.000 Presumably because of the issue of abortion.

00:14:11.000 Does that mean that pro-lifers should avoid the issue?

00:14:12.000 No, it doesn't mean pro-lifers should avoid the issue.

00:14:14.000 What it does mean is that pro-lifers should use common sense when it comes to what they believe they can actually get done and when it comes to how they campaign, particularly, again, for federal office.

00:14:23.000 You're running for state legislature?

00:14:24.000 Different thing.

00:14:25.000 You should be honest about what it is that you are seeking and about what it is that you can achieve.

00:14:30.000 Okay, but when you wrap all of this up, there is one problem for the Democrats.

00:14:34.000 One very, very large problem for the Democrats.

00:14:36.000 And that is that under the tip of the iceberg, this election was the tip of the iceberg, the iceberg under the water is moving against the Democrats.

00:14:45.000 Demographic trends are actually now moving against the Democrats.

00:14:47.000 Sean Trendy over at RealClearPolitics He says one of the quiet stories under the hood is Republicans are looking like they will win the popular vote.

00:14:55.000 Probably a popular vote swing of 5% depends on how California works out, swinging about 2% of the chamber.

00:15:01.000 The generic polls, by the way, are likely to be about spot on.

00:15:03.000 Why?

00:15:04.000 An easy story is uncontested seats.

00:15:06.000 There are about eight more GOP uncontested than Democrats, but in some of those, they don't count any votes.

00:15:09.000 So a net hurts the GOP.

00:15:11.000 There are seats where two Democrats ran against each other, so Dems double dip.

00:15:15.000 California has a lot of votes left to count, and building that into my estimate, Republicans are up six in the generic ballot right now.

00:15:20.000 A five-point swing would have them win by two.

00:15:23.000 California had a gap of four million in the popular vote.

00:15:25.000 It looks about half the ballots are counted already.

00:15:27.000 Some states like Arizona will see final counts that are helpful.

00:15:29.000 So, what explains it?

00:15:30.000 Some of it is a chart that he talked about again and again this cycle.

00:15:33.000 At R plus two, the popular vote is still nestled in a valley where there just aren't that many seats to flip.

00:15:37.000 There are not that many seats within that R plus two or D plus two segment of the congressional seats.

00:15:43.000 The seats are now kind of polarized out.

00:15:45.000 There are a lot of R plus tens and a lot of D plus tens.

00:15:48.000 So what Sean Trendy says is, in other words, the Biden plus 10 levy held.

00:15:51.000 Combine that with some bad candidates in Biden minus 10 districts, like Ohio 9, and you get a fuller explanation.

00:15:57.000 But the quiet story under the hood is something I talked about last year.

00:16:00.000 Republicans did relatively well with black and especially Hispanic voters, but it didn't translate to seats.

00:16:04.000 So, for example, Bennie Thompson is at 58% in his minority majority district in Mississippi.

00:16:09.000 That's a bad number for Bennie Thompson.

00:16:11.000 Still means he won by 15, 20 points.

00:16:14.000 Linda Sanchez is at 54% in a 66% Clinton, 62% Biden district.

00:16:20.000 Anyway, nice reminder that structural advantages aren't permanent, and as the GOP vote migrates to rural areas where they're already strong or minority areas where they'll do better but not well enough to win, they're going to start to produce some of the inefficiencies that have bedeviled Democrats these past few cycles.

00:16:32.000 What he's talking about there is the Democrats complaining that they win the popular vote but lose the electoral college.

00:16:37.000 Here, what you see is that the Republicans win going away in the congressional popular vote, but they don't pick up as many seats as they should because a lot of the seats are apportioned differently.

00:16:47.000 What does that mean for the Democrats?

00:16:48.000 Well, it was not an amazing day for the Democrats.

00:16:50.000 It was a dodge-the-bullet day for the Democrats.

00:16:53.000 What happened here is that Republicans pulled failure out of the jaws of victory.

00:17:00.000 This is what happened.

00:17:01.000 The Republicans had this thing, and then they blew this thing.

00:17:04.000 They ran a bunch of bad candidates.

00:17:07.000 They campaigned badly.

00:17:08.000 They didn't have any cohesive and coherent messaging.

00:17:11.000 And so what happened is in a lot of those areas, the voters just didn't trust them.

00:17:15.000 That's really all it comes down to.

00:17:16.000 Did the voters trust you or did the voters not?

00:17:18.000 Okay, so here is the problem for Democrats.

00:17:20.000 We've talked a lot about the problems for Republicans and we'll talk more about that, but there's a big problem for Democrats.

00:17:26.000 Lurking in the weeds here is a monster for the Democrats.

00:17:29.000 People don't like their policies.

00:17:31.000 People don't like the wokeness. 0.98

00:17:32.000 People don't like the transing of the children.

00:17:34.000 People don't like the big spending.

00:17:35.000 People don't like the centralization of power at the federal level.

00:17:39.000 People don't like what Joe Biden has done as president.

00:17:42.000 They don't like it.

00:17:43.000 But because Joe Biden didn't get clocked in the face by reality, because his party did not get clocked in the face by reality, because they dodged the bullet, they're now interpreting that as a mandate.

00:17:53.000 Now again, this does not mean the Republicans had a good night.

00:17:55.000 They didn't have a good night.

00:17:55.000 I'm not going to sugarcoat that Republicans had a good night.

00:17:57.000 They didn't.

00:17:58.000 They were supposed to win 25, 30 seats.

00:18:00.000 Republicans at this point are going to be lucky if they pick up like 10 seats.

00:18:04.000 That'd be like a big win for Republicans right now, is if they end up at like 222, 223.

00:18:11.000 After all this is said and done, they started off at 212.

00:18:15.000 With that said, was this an amazing night for Democrats?

00:18:18.000 It wasn't an amazing night for Democrats.

00:18:20.000 They're gonna lose the chamber.

00:18:21.000 It wasn't an unbelievable night for Democrats in the Senate either.

00:18:24.000 Remember, most of these seats that we're talking about right now are seats that Democrats currently hold.

00:18:29.000 Arizona is a seat held by a Democrat.

00:18:31.000 Nevada is a seat held by a Democrat.

00:18:32.000 Pennsylvania is a seat that was held by a Republican, but it was an open seat.

00:18:36.000 Georgia is a seat held by a Democrat.

00:18:37.000 New Hampshire is a seat held by the Democrat.

00:18:38.000 So there's an expectation Republicans are going to flip a lot of seats.

00:18:41.000 So Democrats holding is a victory of sorts, but it is not like a monster.

00:18:47.000 Your agenda has been validated.

00:18:48.000 Everything you do is right.

00:18:49.000 Victory.

00:18:50.000 That's not what it was.

00:18:51.000 They barely escaped.

00:18:53.000 Barely.

00:18:53.000 And instead of reading that as, maybe we ought to course correct a little bit, guys.

00:18:57.000 Maybe we ought to think a little bit more about what it is that we are doing.

00:19:00.000 Maybe this is just a warning shot from the American public.

00:19:02.000 And if Republicans, if Republicans get their act together, we are cruising for a bruising in the future.

00:19:07.000 This is about Republican incompetence, not about our own genius.

00:19:10.000 Instead of taking that message away, Democrats seem to be taking away the opposite message, which is we have been validated.

00:19:16.000 Everything we have done has been a good idea.

00:19:18.000 This is one of the crucial mistakes that seems nearly everybody makes in politics.

00:19:21.000 In 2004, George W. Bush ran for re-election.

00:19:25.000 He ran on the heels of the war in Afghanistan beginning, and 9-11, and the war in Iraq, and he barely eked out a victory against John Kerry.

00:19:32.000 It was a very close election.

00:19:33.000 I remember being in Cambridge, Massachusetts at the time, and the expectation by many people was that Kerry was actually going to win and George W. Bush would be a one-term president.

00:19:41.000 In fact, I was so preemptively depressed about the possibility of John Kerry winning that I went over to the local Tower Records.

00:19:47.000 Yes, there used to be, children, stores where you would buy these things called CDs that would play music.

00:19:51.000 And I bought a copy of Mozart's Requiem to play.

00:19:55.000 In case the election went the way that a lot of people were saying.

00:19:58.000 It didn't go that way, but here's the thing.

00:20:00.000 George W. Bush took away from a very narrow victory, not the message that he ought to be a little bit chastened in his policies.

00:20:06.000 Instead, what he took away was, it's time to privatize social security.

00:20:09.000 I'm going to use my political capital and mandate to mandate.

00:20:12.000 Same thing happened with Barack Obama.

00:20:13.000 In 2008, he wins a broad victory based on unity.

00:20:17.000 Blue strike, red strike, blah, blah, blah.

00:20:19.000 And instead of taking that as a mandate to unify the country, he took that as a mandate for a socialistic scheme to essentially remake healthcare.

00:20:29.000 And in 2010, he loses 63 seats. 0.99

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00:20:37.000 This is true on every side of the aisle. 1.00

00:20:39.000 First party to sanity wins.

00:20:41.000 is the message from this particular election cycle.

00:20:43.000 Joe Biden is not taking that message.

00:20:44.000 We'll get to more on this in just one second.

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00:22:46.000 So yesterday, Joe Biden stumbled out to the microphones to take a triumphant victory lap.

00:22:51.000 And listen, listen, you can't blame the guy too much.

00:22:53.000 The fact is that Joe Biden's party overperformed in this election in a way that no president has overperformed in a midterm election since George W. Bush in 2002.

00:23:02.000 And that was literally around the heels of 9-11.

00:23:06.000 This was, by historical standards, a win for Joe Biden, and he's going to treat it that way.

00:23:11.000 So Joe Biden goes out there and he says, it was a good day for democracy.

00:23:16.000 We had an election yesterday.

00:23:20.000 And it was a good day, I think, for democracy.

00:23:23.000 And I think it was a good day for America. 0.95

00:23:27.000 Joe Biden finishes there by starting to cough and then he says he has a little horse like little Sebastian on Parks and Recreation, which apparently he rides around the White House garden in his off hours.

00:23:36.000 It's funny how the democracy is at stake stuff went immediately to democracy is alive, well thriving.

00:23:42.000 Everything's amazing.

00:23:44.000 Almost as though it was an election ploy, this whole democracy was at stake stuff.

00:23:47.000 But the real message that Joe Biden was there to give yesterday is that he is not changing course, not one iota, not one bit.

00:23:54.000 This is validation of everything that he has ever done or ever will do.

00:23:57.000 And there's a president who basically lucked into his position by virtue of COVID, an incompetent campaign by his opponent, and the fact that he was able to lock himself in a basement for six months, and who has proceeded to run the country directly into the ground.

00:24:10.000 And here he is basically saying that he gets that voters are still frustrated, but... So he's asked about this.

00:24:15.000 Here's what he had to say.

00:24:17.000 And another thing that we know is that voters spoke clearly about their concerns about raising costs, the rising costs that they're in, and the need to get inflation down.

00:24:28.000 There's still a lot of people hurting.

00:24:29.000 They're very concerned.

00:24:31.000 And it's about crime and public safety.

00:24:34.000 And they sent a clear and unmistakable message that they want to Preserve our democracy and protect the right to choose in this country.

00:24:44.000 OK, so he says that he understands the frustrations.

00:24:46.000 But in reality, what just happened is that we are restoring the soul of the country.

00:24:51.000 This is the world beating.

00:24:53.000 I am an FDR, LBJ, Barack Obama figure from a doddering old man.

00:24:56.000 The soul of the country is being restored because John Fetterman is in the Senate or something.

00:25:02.000 I said we're going to restore the soul of the country.

00:25:05.000 Began to treat each other with decency, honor, and integrity.

00:25:09.000 And it's starting to happen.

00:25:11.000 The conversations are becoming more normal, becoming more, how can I say it, decent.

00:25:21.000 Everyone's becoming more decent now.

00:25:23.000 The sun is shining, gang.

00:25:25.000 Four days ago, the end of the republic was at hand.

00:25:28.000 You understand that we didn't just, apparently according to Joe Biden, we didn't just avoid catastrophe.

00:25:33.000 The sun is now shining.

00:25:34.000 The world is a bright place.

00:25:36.000 We went from a world that was shot through a dingy red lens to a world shot through a yellow lens with beautiful sunlight streaming into your warm, cozy kitchen.

00:25:47.000 And Joe Biden's sitting there, sniffing your hair.

00:25:49.000 Everything is great, guys.

00:25:50.000 Amazing how fast things switched.

00:25:52.000 It's just, wow, wow.

00:25:54.000 Can you feel your soul beginning to grow?

00:25:55.000 Can you feel it?

00:25:57.000 Can you feel the happiness?

00:25:58.000 So, he's asked, so are you going to change anything or do anything differently, considering that you still do have a 43% approval rating?

00:26:03.000 You just lost control of the House of Representatives.

00:26:05.000 And the reason you didn't lose control of the Senate is because Republicans decided that they would go down to the local homeless shelter and pick some candidates.

00:26:12.000 Do you have anything you'd change, Mr. President?

00:26:16.000 I'm not going to change the direction.

00:26:18.000 I said I ran for three reasons.

00:26:19.000 of voters say the country is heading in the wrong direction, despite the results of last night.

00:26:24.000 What in the next two years do you intend to do differently to change people's opinion of the direction of the country, particularly as you contemplate a run for president in 2024?

00:26:34.000 Nothing, because they're just finding out what we're doing.

00:26:37.000 So I'm not going to change the direction.

00:26:39.000 I said I ran for three reasons.

00:26:41.000 I'm going to continue to stay where I am.

00:26:43.000 I fully understand the legitimate concern that what I'm saying is wrong.

00:26:55.000 The thing is that they're finding out what we're doing now and that's why they love us.

00:27:03.000 It is a truth of politics that God's justice comes for all.

00:27:08.000 As a religious person, I truly believe this.

00:27:11.000 I believe that so much of our politics is about God's justice coming for people in the most ironic and ridiculous possible ways.

00:27:17.000 It happens over and over and over again.

00:27:19.000 Hillary Clinton wanted to be president for her entire life. 1.00

00:27:21.000 Her entire life.

00:27:23.000 That's all she wanted.

00:27:24.000 And then she helped elevated Donald Trump to her opposing nomination in 2016. 0.66

00:27:28.000 She wanted him to run.

00:27:29.000 She was desperate for him to run.

00:27:30.000 And then she loses.

00:27:31.000 God's justice came.

00:27:33.000 Barack Obama thought of himself as a world-conquering, unique figure in American politics, an extraordinary intellect.

00:27:40.000 And then he has to hand the keys over to the car to Donald Trump, who sits across from him, and he's like, hey, Barack.

00:27:44.000 Reborn in Kenya, were you?

00:27:47.000 Yeah.

00:27:47.000 God's justice came for Barack Obama.

00:27:50.000 Donald Trump wants to be ridiculously popular.

00:27:52.000 It's a thing he loves more than anything.

00:27:54.000 And yet he seems to not be able to get out of his own way.

00:27:56.000 And for Joe Biden, Joe Biden believes that because he has lucked into many things in the past several years, including he lucked into the vice presidency, and then he lucked into the nomination, and then he lucked into the presidency, and now he has lucked into an escape act in the midterms.

00:28:11.000 He believes that he's going to do amazing.

00:28:13.000 I mean, it's like watching a Greek tragedy.

00:28:16.000 His character flaw, which is that he has a self-confidence of a guy coming off the bench who goes 0 for 10 from three point range, but heaves him up from half court.

00:28:25.000 That's Joe Biden.

00:28:26.000 Joe Biden made a lucky shot from near half court.

00:28:29.000 And now he's like, well, I must be Steph Curry.

00:28:31.000 I'm amazing at this.

00:28:33.000 I'm not going to change a single thing.

00:28:35.000 I mean, sure, the American people are like blaring red lights in my face telling me to stop, but I'm not going to stop.

00:28:41.000 More cowbell.

00:28:45.000 All right.

00:28:46.000 I mean, if you... Okay.

00:28:46.000 All right.

00:28:49.000 If this is the way you want to do it.

00:28:50.000 So Joe Biden continues, he says, I have no guarantees that we can stop inflation.

00:28:54.000 Yeah, I'm concerned about it.

00:28:55.000 I have empathy.

00:28:56.000 If I say empathy a lot, then I guess you'll think I'm empathetic.

00:28:59.000 But, um, but yeah.

00:29:04.000 But what I can't do is I can't guarantee that we're going to be able to get rid of inflation, but I do think we can.

00:29:14.000 We've already brought down the price of gasoline about $1.20 a gallon across the board, and I think that the oil companies are really doing the nation a real disservice.

00:29:30.000 So again, he's not going to bring down inflation.

00:29:32.000 Also, he maintains that we are nowhere near a recession.

00:29:35.000 He's just going to keep whistling this tune.

00:29:37.000 It's amazing.

00:29:39.000 So there's a lot of things we can do to affect the things that people need on a monthly basis to reduce their inflation, their cost of living.

00:29:48.000 And so, but I am optimistic because we continue to grow.

00:29:53.000 And at a rational pace, we are not anywhere near a recession right now in terms of the growth.

00:30:00.000 But I think we can have what most economists call a soft landing.

00:30:05.000 We're going to have a soft landing, he says.

00:30:06.000 Also, he says that, are you worried, he's asked, are you worried that the Republicans are going to do a Hunter Biden investigation?

00:30:11.000 No, no, everything's in me.

00:30:13.000 No, Hunter's the smartest man I know.

00:30:17.000 Snorting Parmesan cheese from carpets is what we do.

00:30:21.000 If you're a Biden, we love Parmesan cheese and carpet.

00:30:24.000 I'm sure.

00:30:27.000 Final question.

00:30:29.000 Republicans have made it clear that if they do take control of the House, that they want to launch a raft of investigations on day one into your handling of Afghanistan, the border.

00:30:41.000 They want to look into some of your cabinet officials.

00:30:44.000 They want to investigate you.

00:30:45.000 They may even want to investigate your son.

00:30:47.000 What's your message to Republicans who are considering investigating your family, and particularly your son Hunter's business dealings?

00:30:56.000 Lots of luck in your senior year, as my coach used to say.

00:30:59.000 Look, um, I think the American public wants to move on and get things done for them.

00:31:06.000 Um, well, we will find out.

00:31:08.000 Daring people to investigate your son is a, is a unique strategy.

00:31:11.000 We'll see how that, we'll see how that plays.

00:31:13.000 Meanwhile, he's asked, well, you know, now you're going to have to deal with Republican Congress.

00:31:16.000 How does that change your math?

00:31:17.000 He's like, well, the Republicans won't cut deals with me.

00:31:19.000 Probably.

00:31:20.000 I mean, I'm, I'm such a nice person.

00:31:22.000 Why wouldn't?

00:31:23.000 Nope.

00:31:24.000 That is not going to happen.

00:31:27.000 The predictions were, and again, I'm not being critical of anybody who made the predictions, I got it, okay?

00:31:33.000 There's supposed to be a red wave, you guys, you were talking about us losing 30 to 50 seats, and this is gonna, nowhere near, that's not gonna happen.

00:31:41.000 And so there's always enough people on the other team, whether it's Democrat or Republican, that the opposite party can make an appeal to, and maybe pick them off to get the help.

00:31:53.000 Okay, so, finally Joe Biden is asked, are you going to run for re-election?

00:31:55.000 And this is the real takeaway here.

00:31:57.000 He's not changing course and absolutely he's going to run for re-election.

00:32:00.000 Ironically, by Republicans not winning a major victory, Democrats were ready to take Joe Biden and they were ready to tie him up and put him under the train like snidely whiplash to Nell.

00:32:09.000 But instead, along came the Republicans, like Dudley Do-Right, to save Nell from the train.

00:32:14.000 Here he comes, Joe!

00:32:18.000 And so now Joe Biden is on time.

00:32:20.000 He's off the train tracks.

00:32:21.000 And you know what?

00:32:21.000 He is going to run.

00:32:22.000 He's going to run.

00:32:23.000 So ironically, the one thing that Democrats kind of don't want, which is Joe Biden to run, is going to happen now.

00:32:29.000 He's enthusiastically going to run.

00:32:30.000 By which I mean walk incredibly slowly, avoiding cords on the ground.

00:32:33.000 Here's the president announcing this.

00:32:36.000 Two thirds of Americans in exit polls say that they don't think you should run for re-election.

00:32:41.000 What is your message to them?

00:32:42.000 And how does that factor into your final decision about whether or not to run for re-election?

00:32:47.000 It doesn't.

00:32:51.000 Watch me.

00:32:54.000 Watch me, I don't know.

00:32:55.000 The people who want me to run?

00:32:56.000 Screw it! 1.00

00:32:57.000 I'm gonna, I'm gonna crawl! 0.90

00:33:00.000 I'm gonna, sort of, thrash around on the floor!

00:33:02.000 So, Democrats, good luck.

00:33:05.000 You've learned no lessons, so we'll see how that pays off for you.

00:33:07.000 Again, whichever party learns the lessons faster and becomes not crazy is going to win.

00:33:11.000 Whichever party continues to be crazy is going to lose.

00:33:14.000 Joe Biden has not learned any lessons.

00:33:15.000 The question becomes, will Republicans learn any lessons?

00:33:19.000 What lessons will they learn?

00:33:21.000 Well, in order for the Republicans to learn some lessons, there's going to need to be some change at the top. 0.92

00:33:24.000 I know it sounds harsh, but it turns out that when your team sucks, the coach gets fired. 0.98

00:33:28.000 I keep saying this. 0.99

00:33:29.000 The coach needs to get fired.

00:33:30.000 There needs to be some systemic changes inside Republican HQ.

00:33:34.000 Somebody needs to stand up and take the reins in an actual, strong, and coherent way.

00:33:39.000 But instead, what you're getting from a lot of the Republican leadership is, guys, everything was fine.

00:33:42.000 It went amazing.

00:33:43.000 It was terrific.

00:33:44.000 So now, it ain't just a river in Egypt.

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00:35:27.000 So as I say, first party to sanity wins the race.

00:35:31.000 Right now, Joe Biden looks like he's going to double down on the insanity because he didn't learn the lesson of this election.

00:35:35.000 Will Republicans learn the lesson of this election?

00:35:38.000 Well, apparently the leadership won't because after all, they have a stake in pretending they did an amazing job.

00:35:43.000 So RNC chair, Ronna McDaniel, she actually suggested that Republicans won the Super Bowl.

00:35:48.000 If by won the Super Bowl, you mean won the play-in round of the playoffs and got defeated before heading to the national championship at all, then sure.

00:35:59.000 I mean, if your standards are so low that winning a couple of seats in the House to take the majority is enough for you, then I guess that's your baseline.

00:36:07.000 But a historically bad performance by the out-of-party power with the president at 43% doesn't sound like winning the Super Bowl to me.

00:36:14.000 Unlike in football, basketball, baseball, the margins matter.

00:36:18.000 The margins really, really matter.

00:36:20.000 And if Republicans fail to take the Senate, that's not just a failure, that is a massive failure.

00:36:24.000 Here is Ronna McDaniel, however, trying to pretend that this was just a big win for Republicans across the board.

00:36:29.000 We won with Wesley Hunt.

00:36:31.000 We picked up two seats, and Abbott won against the third-time loser Beto O'Rourke, despite all the money that he had.

00:36:38.000 We beat Stacey Abrams.

00:36:39.000 We retired Sean Patrick Maloney, the head of the DCCC.

00:36:43.000 We beat Elaine Luria, who ran the January 6th committee.

00:36:47.000 This is a good night for Republicans, and anybody saying otherwise is just wrong.

00:36:53.000 When you win the game, you don't say, oh, did you win it by one point or two points?

00:36:57.000 You won the game.

00:36:58.000 We just won the Super Bowl last night.

00:37:00.000 Nancy Pelosi will no longer have the gavel, and it will be in the hands of Kevin McCarthy, and that is good for the American people.

00:37:09.000 Okay, let's just put it this way.

00:37:11.000 The margins matter.

00:37:12.000 If you win the House by one, that's not the same thing as winning the House by 30.

00:37:15.000 If you win the House by 30, you then have margin of error.

00:37:18.000 There are a lot of these Republicans in purple districts who may, in fact, cross the aisle to vote with Democrats on particular issues.

00:37:23.000 Yes, the margins matter.

00:37:25.000 Anybody who says that it wasn't a good night for Republicans, I feel like you have a stake in this ballgame since you are the head of the RNC.

00:37:31.000 I like Ronald McDaniel, but can we stop pretending that like if anybody is pretending here, it's like whoever learns the lessons of last night will do well in 2024.

00:37:40.000 And if you refuse to learn the lessons of the election night, you're not going to win.

00:37:44.000 It is that simple.

00:37:45.000 The American people speak again and again and again.

00:37:48.000 And all they keep saying is give us sane candidates who don't want to wreck the country.

00:37:51.000 That's all.

00:37:52.000 Just just like don't raid the local homeless shelter.

00:37:55.000 Stop pressing policies that look like they came off The writing's on the wall at Arkham Asylum.

00:38:01.000 How about that?

00:38:03.000 And both parties are like, nope.

00:38:04.000 Joe Biden's like, I like the Arkham Asylum.

00:38:07.000 I like those plans.

00:38:08.000 And meanwhile, the Republicans are like, I may not like the plans on the wall, but I love the inmates.

00:38:11.000 The inmates are amazing over at Arkham.

00:38:14.000 So Ronna McDaniels says, this is a wave because we are waving goodbye to Pelosi.

00:38:20.000 There was discussion that this was going to be a red wave.

00:38:23.000 You know, for every text that I got today that said, you know, I thought there was a red wave coming, and you're telling them that they won the Super Bowl, they might want to know, they might want to hear more than that, Ronna.

00:38:33.000 Listen, we never used the word red wave at the RNC because we knew the map had shrunk.

00:38:38.000 There were less competitive seats because of redistricting, and we picked up 14 in 2020, and everybody forgets that.

00:38:44.000 But Republican governors were overwhelmingly re-elected last night because of what they did in the pandemic because we did have a message. We kept our schools open. We kept our economies humming.

00:38:55.000 And from Florida to Ohio to Iowa, across the board, we didn't lose a single Republican governorship. And the wave did happen because we are waving goodbye to Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

00:39:05.000 Uh, no, not that. No.

00:39:09.000 A wave at the beach is not the same thing as waving with your, no, no.

00:39:13.000 Okay, so who's going to learn the lesson first?

00:39:16.000 Race to the pool, whoever learns the lessons first.

00:39:18.000 Okay, so Joe Biden said the quiet part out loud yesterday in his press conference.

00:39:23.000 He said that what he is rooting for is for Republicans not to learn the lesson.

00:39:26.000 He is rooting for Republicans to go to internecine warfare.

00:39:29.000 So Joe Biden, he looked real excited yesterday when he was asked about Ron DeSantis and Donald Trump.

00:39:33.000 He was very pumped up about this.

00:39:35.000 And here's what he had to say.

00:39:39.000 Okay, so actually Biden is right.

00:39:41.000 If you're a Democrat, what you want right now is for Trump to go at DeSantis.

00:39:46.000 Editor Ron DeSantis or former President Trump?

00:39:49.000 And how is that factoring into your decision?

00:39:50.000 It'll be fun watching them take on each other.

00:39:53.000 I think they should marry each other.

00:39:56.000 Okay so actually Biden is right.

00:39:58.000 If you're a Democrat, what you want right now is for Trump to go at DeSantis.

00:40:01.000 Now look, Ron DeSantis has not declared for the presidency.

00:40:03.000 He has not.

00:40:04.000 Ron DeSantis is still governor of Florida.

00:40:06.000 Presumably he's going to spend a while being governor of Florida because last I checked my calendar, it is November 10th, 2022.

00:40:13.000 And the next election is not held until 2024.

00:40:15.000 So he has a while to go here.

00:40:18.000 But this brings up the question of what Donald Trump is going to do.

00:40:22.000 So Donald Trump has spent the last couple of days just wallowing in it.

00:40:26.000 He's very upset.

00:40:28.000 He's very upset, not just because some of his candidates lost, but because his handpicked candidates did poorly and mostly because Ron DeSantis did really well.

00:40:36.000 And you can tell because Donald Trump has been spending the last few days attacking Ron DeSantis, the most successful Republican governor in the country, by a long shot.

00:40:44.000 He spent the last couple of days just defending him.

00:40:46.000 I mean, just ripping on him, ripping on him nonstop in jealous, petty fashion.

00:40:51.000 If Donald Trump actually wants to run for president victoriously in 2024, what he should be saying is, we won amazing victories in places like Florida because I endorsed Ron DeSantis and he's a great candidate.

00:41:00.000 I look forward to his support in 2024, right?

00:41:02.000 That'd be the smart thing to do.

00:41:03.000 Instead, Trump goes on Truth Social and he says, now that the election in Florida is over and everything went quite well, shouldn't it be said that in 2020, I got 1.1 million more votes in Florida than Ron D got this year?

00:41:12.000 5.7 million to 4.6 million?

00:41:14.000 Just asking.

00:41:17.000 No, that shouldn't be said because one is a presidential election year and one is a midterm year.

00:41:23.000 And those are not the same thing.

00:41:24.000 And people typically vote more for presidents in their state than they vote for governor in their state.

00:41:29.000 So no, those are not comparable in any way, shape or form.

00:41:33.000 But this is this is his obsession now.

00:41:36.000 He he he just keeps he just keeps doing this.

00:41:40.000 He was asked yesterday.

00:41:41.000 If he would sort of change his tune going into 2024.

00:41:45.000 Because he picked candidates this time to back based almost entirely on whether they supported the narrative that he won the 2020 election.

00:41:51.000 He picked Don Balduck in New Hampshire based on the narrative that he won the 2020 election.

00:41:54.000 Balduck got smoked by 10.

00:41:56.000 Doug Mastroianno in Pennsylvania was a kook. 0.96

00:41:59.000 He picked him in that gubernatorial race because Doug Mastroianno supported the 2020 election was stolen routine.

00:42:06.000 And then Trump has done.

00:42:07.000 So here is Trump explaining.

00:42:10.000 So Trump actually says, he's proud of his candidates.

00:42:12.000 He's not going to change anything.

00:42:14.000 He said, there's a fake news narrative.

00:42:15.000 I was furious.

00:42:16.000 It is the opposite.

00:42:17.000 The people I endorsed did very well.

00:42:18.000 I was batting 98.6% in the primaries and 216 to 19 in the general election.

00:42:23.000 That is amazing.

00:42:25.000 Okay, well, um, I would just like to point out something.

00:42:28.000 Virtually all of the seats of those 216 that he won were non-competitive seats.

00:42:32.000 The 19 that were lost were all in very, very competitive districts.

00:42:37.000 And then he took credit for Marco Rubio's performance, which is weird, since he had nothing to do with that.

00:42:42.000 Uh, and then he took credit for JD Vance performing less than he did in Ohio.

00:42:47.000 He took credit for Ron Johnson in Wisconsin, who was elected before Donald Trump was in politics.

00:42:55.000 So that's, that's strange.

00:42:58.000 Again, this is, this is not the way that you want to run a, a reelect effort if you are, if you are Donald Trump.

00:43:06.000 Attacking Donald Trump, Donald Trump attacking Ron DeSantis is a bad strategy. 0.98

00:43:10.000 It is a foolish strategy. 0.88

00:43:12.000 But Trump feels like he has to clear the field. 0.83

00:43:15.000 And that is the major story right now, is what Trump is going to do next, which is what we're going to talk about next.

00:43:20.000 The rest of the show is continuing now.

00:43:21.000 You're not going to want to miss it.

00:43:22.000 We'll be getting into whether or when Donald Trump is going to declare for the presidency.

The Ben Shapiro Show - November 10, 2022

Biden Takes A Victory Lap | Ep. 1608

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