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Biden’s Saigon | Ep. 1319


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The Taliban is now in charge of Afghanistan. It's the worst foreign policy debacle for the U.S. since America's withdrawal from Vietnam. Ben Shapiro explains why, and why it's worse than anything we've experienced in the past 20 years. He also compares it to the fall of the US Embassy in Saigon in the late 1970s and early 1980s, and how it's nothing like what we're seeing in Afghanistan today. The Ben Shapiro Show is sponsored by ExpressVPN. Protect your data from big tech with the VPN I trust. Visit ExpressVPN to get 20% off your first month with discount code "VPN20" and receive $20 off your next purchase when you use the discount code: "I trust" at checkout. You can get unlimited talk, text, and 6GB of data for just $30 a month, plus you'll get unlimited access to the latest iPhones and Androids for free! If you're spending too much on your cell phone service, you can save a bundle on your service by switching to PeerTalk USA, where you get the same great coverage as all the big 3, except at a fraction of the price. Go over there and get 50% off for the first month! You're not going to want to charge you for it! Go check them out right now! You'll get a lot more coverage than you'd be better than what you're getting with Verizon, AT&T, Sprint, or T-Mobile, or Sprint, and other major networks like Vue, and you'll be getting the same coverage as you're used to get by paying $800 a year for a phone plan, plus they'll get FREE 3 times a month for a whole bunch of service like that you're paying $300 a month. That's not even close to $200 a year! Ben Shapiro's show is all about saving you the same thing you get when you go over there, plus an extra $150 a year, you get $100 a month and get an additional $50 a month? Want to upgrade your phone plan? Subscribe to the show by becoming a VIP membership when you sign up for VIP access and get 10% off the show gets you get an ad-free version of the show? That's $5,000 in the show, plus I'll get $50,000 when you upgrade my service gets you an ad discount when you become VIP access gets my VIP membership?


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00:00:00.000 Afghanistan falls to the Taliban in the worst foreign policy debacle for the United States since America's withdrawal from Vietnam.
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00:01:28.000 Well, obviously the big news of the day and of the year, and frankly of the last 20 years, is the Taliban is now in charge of Afghanistan again because Joe Biden decided it would be a wonderful, wonderful idea to simply leave.
00:01:40.000 With no plan, with no actual transition, with no support for the people who are still there.
00:01:45.000 And so what we have on our hands is a full-scale disaster area.
00:01:48.000 Now remember, it was just one month ago that Joe Biden was saying that, don't worry, it's not going to be like Saigon.
00:01:55.000 It's not going to be like the United States leaving Vietnam with helicopters taking off from roofs and the Viet Cong simply rushing in and killing everybody they don't like.
00:02:02.000 It's not going to be anything like that.
00:02:03.000 It'll be orderly.
00:02:04.000 After all, there's a big Afghan army and we've been arming them and supporting them.
00:02:08.000 Here was Joe Biden saying what is now in retrospect the dumbest thing he possibly could have said one month ago.
00:02:14.000 Do you see any parallels between this withdrawal and what happened in Vietnam with some people feeling?
00:02:19.000 None whatsoever.
00:02:20.000 Zero.
00:02:21.000 What you had is you had entire brigades breaking through the gates of our embassy.
00:02:26.000 Six, if I'm not mistaken.
00:02:28.000 The Taliban is not the South, the North Vietnamese army.
00:02:33.000 They're not they're not remotely comparable in terms of capability.
00:02:36.000 There's going to be no circumstance where you see people being lifted off the roof of a embassy of the United States from Afghanistan.
00:02:46.000 It is not at all comfortable.
00:02:47.000 This dunderheaded fool, this unbelievable coward, all of that was a lie.
00:02:52.000 That was a lie.
00:02:53.000 And it was perfectly obvious it was a lie at the time.
00:02:55.000 Here's the thing.
00:02:55.000 They're still lying in real time.
00:02:57.000 The Secretary of State, Antony Blinken, he was asked on Sunday whether this was like Saigon.
00:03:02.000 And here is what he had to say.
00:03:04.000 President Biden said that under no circumstance, and those were his words, under no circumstance would the U.S.
00:03:13.000 embassy personnel be airlifted out of Kabul in a replay of the scenes that we saw in Saigon in 1975.
00:03:20.000 So isn't that exactly what we're seeing now?
00:03:25.000 I mean, even the images are evocative of what happened in Vietnam.
00:03:30.000 Let's take a step back.
00:03:31.000 This is manifestly not Saigon.
00:03:33.000 The fact of the matter is this.
00:03:35.000 We went to Afghanistan 20 years ago with one mission in mind, and that was to deal with the people who attacked us on 9-11.
00:03:42.000 And that mission has been successful.
00:03:44.000 Okay, this is insane.
00:03:45.000 It's exactly like Saigon.
00:03:46.000 By the way, it's not like Saigon.
00:03:48.000 Let me just show you a picture of Saigon and a picture of what happened the other day.
00:03:51.000 This is a side-by-side.
00:03:52.000 Okay, so on your left-hand side, you'll see Saigon.
00:03:56.000 You have people attempting to escape, attempting to climb onto U.S.
00:04:00.000 helicopters to get out of the way before the Viet Cong rushed in and killed everybody.
00:04:04.000 And on the right, that is an American ferry helicopter that is taking off from the top of the United States Embassy, trying to evacuate people from the top.
00:04:13.000 Nothing like it?
00:04:15.000 Nothing.
00:04:15.000 You see it?
00:04:15.000 No resemblances?
00:04:17.000 None?
00:04:17.000 Weird, because they look really exactly the same.
00:04:20.000 Like, exactly the same.
00:04:23.000 And by the way, you have the Taliban taking full control of the presidential palace in Kabul, in scenes reminiscent of Vietnam circa 1975.
00:04:30.000 Here is some of that footage.
00:04:33.000 What you are looking at right now is Taliban fighters inside the presidential palace.
00:04:42.000 Taliban fighters placing their guns on the desk, sitting behind the desk of, we assume that is the desk of the Afghan president.
00:04:53.000 A fairly stunning turnaround of events.
00:04:58.000 In Kabul.
00:04:59.000 Okay, remember last week, last week, the Biden administration said it would be somewhere between 30 and 90 days before the Taliban even had the capacity to take over Kabul.
00:05:08.000 It took about 30 to 90 hours for them to actually do it.
00:05:12.000 30 to 90 hours.
00:05:13.000 CNN's Kylie Atwood now reporting the American flag at the U.S.
00:05:16.000 embassy in Kabul has been taken down.
00:05:19.000 She says this marks a final step in the evacuation of the embassy.
00:05:23.000 By the way, how bad was this?
00:05:23.000 The withdrawal of embassy personnel is happening, quote, incredibly rapidly today.
00:05:27.000 And the process is now expected to conclude by this evening, she says, minus the small number of diplomats who will stay at the Kabul airport for now.
00:05:36.000 By the way, how bad was this?
00:05:37.000 This is so bad and so rushed and such a botched job that the United States left behind billions of dollars in equipment for the Afghan Taliban to simply take over.
00:05:47.000 According to the Agence France-Presse, the United States spent billions supplying the Afghan military with the tools to defeat the Taliban.
00:05:54.000 The rapid capitulation of the armed forces means that that weaponry is now fueling the insurgents' astonishing battlefield successes.
00:06:01.000 President Joe Biden said, we provided our Afghan partners with all the tools.
00:06:04.000 Let me emphasize all the tools.
00:06:06.000 But the Taliban have just been seizing all of the weapons caches.
00:06:09.000 They've picked up Humvees.
00:06:12.000 They've picked up Apache attack helicopters.
00:06:16.000 In the western city of Farah, fighters are patrolling in a car marked with an eagle swooping on a snake, which is the official insignia of the country's intelligence services.
00:06:23.000 The Taliban Blitz has handed the group vehicles, Humvees, small arms and light weapons, as well as ammunition, according to the Weapons Tracking Group Conflict Armament Research.
00:06:35.000 Experts say that such hauls have given the Taliban a massive boost.
00:06:39.000 The weapons will not only help the Taliban march on Kabul, but strengthen its authority in the cities it has already captured.
00:06:45.000 So they just ended up with a bunch of your taxpayer dollars in their hands, in the form of actual weaponry.
00:06:51.000 According to the New York Times, Taliban fighters poured into the Afghan capital on Sunday amid scenes of panic and chaos, bringing a swift and shocking close to the Afghan government and the 20-year American era in the country.
00:07:01.000 President Ashraf Ghani of Afghanistan fled the country.
00:07:04.000 A council of Afghan officials, including former President Hamid Karzai, said they would open negotiations with the Taliban over the shape of the insurgencies at takeover.
00:07:10.000 By day's end, the insurgents had all but officially sealed their control of the entire country.
00:07:16.000 Hastily arranged American military helicopter flights evacuating the sprawling American embassy compound in Kabul, ferrying American diplomats and Afghan embassy workers to the Kabul military airport.
00:07:25.000 At the civilian airport next door, Afghans wept as they begged airline workers to put their families on outbound commercial flights, even as most were grounded, in favor of military aircraft.
00:07:34.000 There are apparently reports as well that some of the airlines, the civilian airliners, wouldn't let people aboard because they didn't have a COVID test.
00:07:39.000 So they're just gonna stay behind and get slaughtered because they didn't have a COVID test.
00:07:43.000 Really solid stuff all the way around for the West.
00:07:46.000 A bunch of 8th century barbarians who are now taking over sophisticated military equipment from Western powers.
00:07:53.000 They just took over auspices of the 700 million dollar American embassy in Kabul.
00:07:59.000 Sovereign American territory that was just taken over by the Taliban.
00:08:03.000 And of course, the people who are let out were let out largely by fools in the West.
00:08:09.000 And by the way, this is a bipartisan problem.
00:08:11.000 Barack Obama and George.
00:08:13.000 So Georgia, let's start from the beginning.
00:08:14.000 George W. Bush mystified the mission in Afghanistan.
00:08:17.000 The mission in Afghanistan was very clearly to get rid of Al Qaeda and get rid of the Taliban to prevent them from taking over again and letting Al Qaeda back in.
00:08:25.000 The mission was not.
00:08:27.000 It was a side mission.
00:08:27.000 It was nice.
00:08:28.000 The mission was not human rights.
00:08:29.000 The mission was not establishment of a long-term democracy.
00:08:32.000 The mission was preventing this from being a terror base.
00:08:33.000 Period.
00:08:34.000 End of story.
00:08:35.000 If that had been made clear over and over and over again, perhaps the American people would have been willing to make the, what amounts to at this point, a relatively minute sacrifice to maintain a small troop presence in Afghanistan.
00:08:46.000 At the time the United States left, there were 3,500 troops on the ground in Afghanistan, largely to control, for example, Bagram Air Base, which is now controlled by the Taliban.
00:08:55.000 Those 3,500 combat troops represented a tiny, minute proportion of American military power all over the world.
00:09:02.000 The last American soldier who had died in combat was killed February 8th, 2020.
00:09:06.000 It has been a year and a half.
00:09:09.000 The United States is spending on average about $40-45 billion a year on Afghanistan, which amounts to approximately 1% of the federal budget before COVID.
00:09:18.000 Now with the new budgets, it's going to amount to half a percentage point of our federal budget.
00:09:23.000 This was not a quote unquote endless war that required the United States to pull out forthwith, leaving people to be slaughtered in the streets and the Taliban to rush back in to take back over the entire country with no possibility by the way of America now being able to stage attacks on actual terrorist positions because we don't have air bases there anymore.
00:09:39.000 Okay, so George W. Bush misdefined the mission, fair.
00:09:44.000 Then Barack Obama runs on the platform of pulling out in 2008.
00:09:47.000 And then as president, he realizes that this is actually not such a great idea.
00:09:52.000 And so he sort of takes a halfway position.
00:09:53.000 Instead of actually securing our position in Afghanistan, he starts doing like a mid range surge.
00:09:59.000 And then, he starts making backdoor overtures to the Taliban.
00:10:02.000 That continues under President Trump, who also campaigned on ending the war in Afghanistan, and was making pretty open overtures to the Taliban.
00:10:09.000 I mean, there was American negotiation going on with the Taliban in Qatar.
00:10:13.000 And then, that was followed by Joe Biden, who decided to finish this thing by simply pulling out with no negotiations, with no possibility of real commitment, with nothing.
00:10:23.000 For no reason at all.
00:10:25.000 None.
00:10:27.000 Hey, and the net result is going to be that look, the American people apparently are willing to go to war, but we are not willing at this point to see these things through, even if it means a minor, and it is in the scheme of how America's spending goes in the scheme of America's military commitment, a minor commitment to baseline security in places like Afghanistan.
00:10:46.000 And by the way, that gap will be filled by somebody.
00:10:49.000 Now, what's funny about this is that was Joe Biden's calculation all along.
00:10:52.000 Joe Biden's calculation was, if I pull out, there will be some sort of political boon for me.
00:10:55.000 I don't think that boon is coming.
00:10:56.000 I think the American people are going to be reawakened to the threats that the Taliban represent, and that Al Qaeda represents, and that terrorist states in the Middle East represent, when there is no militating backlash by the United States and or its allies.
00:11:10.000 In the meantime, however, the United States made a bunch of crucial errors.
00:11:13.000 For example, emptying out Gitmo under Barack Obama, negotiating with the Taliban.
00:11:18.000 Okay, here is a Taliban fighter literally saying, oh yeah, by the way, I was in Gitmo for eight years.
00:11:23.000 The United States released a bunch of the leaders who are currently in charge of the Taliban were released at the behest of the United States.
00:11:32.000 I was in Guantanamo for eight years.
00:11:44.000 According to The Guardian, Abdul Ghani Baradar, who's the Taliban leader, he was freed from a Pakistani jail at the request of the United States less than three years ago.
00:11:53.000 He has now emerged as an undisputed victor of the 20-year war.
00:11:57.000 Baradar is the political chief in the most public face.
00:11:59.000 He was said to be on his way from his office in Doha to Kabul on Sunday evening.
00:12:02.000 In a televised statement on the fall of Kabul, he said the Taliban's real test was only just beginning.
00:12:06.000 They had to serve the nation by presumably stuffing women back into bags and or into basements, making sure none of them ever read again, and ensuring that women don't walk publicly without a male next to them.
00:12:20.000 Operating in the 8th century seems to be a way of running the nation.
00:12:27.000 Bardar played a succession of military and administrative roles in the five-year Taliban regime.
00:12:30.000 By the time it was ousted, he was deputy minister of defense.
00:12:32.000 During the Taliban's 20-year exile, Bardar had the reputation of being a potent military leader and a subtle political operator.
00:12:38.000 Western diplomats came to view him as on the wing of the Qatar Shura, the Taliban's regrouped leadership in exile that was most resistant to ISI control, that's the Pakistani intelligence service, and most amenable to political contacts with Kabul.
00:12:50.000 The Obama administration was more fearful of his military expertise than hopeful about his supposedly moderate leanings.
00:12:55.000 The CIA tracked him down in Karachi in 2010, and then persuaded the ISI, which is the Pakistani Secret Service, to arrest him.
00:13:01.000 In 2018, Washington's attitude changed.
00:13:04.000 Donald Trump's Afghan envoy, Zalmay Khalilzad, asked the Pakistanis to release Baradar so he could lead negotiations in Qatar.
00:13:10.000 Because everybody on both sides of the aisle decided that this was not a war worth a minimum of effort at this point at all.
00:13:17.000 Now, I think all of that is wrong.
00:13:18.000 But even if you think all of that is right, what is certainly wrong is the insane way that Joe Biden just decided to pull out of this thing.
00:13:26.000 Even if you think it's good policy for the United States not to be involved in Afghanistan, the way that Joe Biden has performed this is the crappiest way anyone could have ever performed this.
00:13:35.000 It truly is an astonishing failure by Joe Biden, who also is saying that he's not going to do any pressers.
00:13:41.000 He's not doing it.
00:13:42.000 No need.
00:13:43.000 Does he have to talk to you?
00:13:44.000 Nah.
00:13:45.000 Matlock is on.
00:13:46.000 He's too busy.
00:13:47.000 He's got things going on.
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00:14:53.000 Okay, so, things are getting incredibly ugly over there, obviously.
00:14:57.000 CNN reporter Clarissa Warren, she says, people here are absolutely terrified.
00:15:03.000 We can certainly hear quite a lot of gunfire going on over the course of the last hour or two, particularly, I should say.
00:15:10.000 Again, very difficult to know what exactly that gunfire is because you do hear a lot of it in Kabul.
00:15:15.000 But certainly fair to say there's a lot more of it tonight than we're used to hearing.
00:15:20.000 And certainly also fair to say that people here in the capital are utterly petrified and essentially have nowhere to look to now.
00:15:27.000 That, of course, is no shock at all.
00:15:29.000 People are attempting to flee, and the videos are just horrifying.
00:15:33.000 If this was not supposed to be like Saigon, I just have a question.
00:15:37.000 Maybe it's not like Saigon.
00:15:38.000 Maybe it's just World War Z. Because these videos look like World War Z. It looks like the zombie invasion is coming, and people are attempting to get on planes.
00:15:45.000 They're climbing up the on-ramps on the planes, and they're just flooding them.
00:15:50.000 There's no organization whatsoever.
00:15:51.000 It's insanity.
00:15:52.000 Here's some of the videos.
00:15:55.000 You see this?
00:15:55.000 Those are civilian airliners in the background.
00:15:57.000 People flooding onto the tarmac, desperately attempting to get out.
00:16:00.000 People showing up with their families, trying to leave before the Taliban come in and kill everybody who is perceived as a collaborator.
00:16:09.000 That was just some of the video.
00:16:11.000 The evacuations underway at Kabul airport are shocking.
00:16:15.000 Some of the video shows people, it's a lot closer up, you can see people actually climbing up the stairs and they're just falling off the railings.
00:16:22.000 I mean, it's utter insanity.
00:16:24.000 And Afghans are of course being stranded by the thousands by the thousands by the hundreds of thousands at this point.
00:16:31.000 None of this should be any sort of shock at all because it isn't according to the Wall Street Journal.
00:16:38.000 Rahmat said he was relieved when the Central Intelligence Agency phoned him for an interview and weeks later, arranged to shelter him on an Afghan base while the State Department processed his application for a visa to flee Afghanistan.
00:16:47.000 He feared the Taliban were hunting him down for his work spying for the CIA in a remote border area of Afghanistan for almost a decade, and lacked the paperwork to apply for a visa.
00:16:56.000 But Rahmat isn't in the clear.
00:16:57.000 The Taliban are advancing on Kabul.
00:16:59.000 Even if he can make it to the capital from his hideout in a province hours away, the Afghan commander of the base has since told him he can't shelter there.
00:17:05.000 I'm very worried, he said in a text message.
00:17:07.000 We are feeling in danger here.
00:17:08.000 Please save our family.
00:17:09.000 Rahmat's story reflects the fears of thousands of Afghans who helped the U.S.
00:17:13.000 during the war and now face a desperate race to leave the country.
00:17:16.000 The Wall Street Journal agreed to only use his first name to protect his safety as best they can.
00:17:20.000 About 18,000 families who have applied for the U.S.' 's special immigrant visa remain on the ground in Afghanistan.
00:17:28.000 Okay, this is as of two days ago.
00:17:33.000 Thousands, 18,000 families.
00:17:36.000 Remaining on the ground in Afghanistan.
00:17:38.000 No way to get out.
00:17:39.000 Half of those are outside Kabul, in areas either already under Taliban control or likely to fall soon, which now is everything, because it's all fallen.
00:17:46.000 In addition, the State Department this month said tens of thousands more Afghans would be eligible for priority treatment under a U.S.
00:17:52.000 refugee settlement program.
00:17:53.000 The new criteria apply to Afghans who work for U.S.
00:17:55.000 contractors, U.S.-funded programs, and U.S.-based media or non-governmental organizations, as well as their families.
00:18:00.000 But how the hell are you going to get them out?
00:18:02.000 The answer is now, you're not.
00:18:03.000 You're not, because you had no orderly transition process.
00:18:06.000 The entire place has been taken over by the barbarians from the 8th century.
00:18:10.000 No one is getting out.
00:18:12.000 Former soldiers, aid workers, others who previously worked in Afghanistan have been inundated with requests from former Afghan colleagues and employees seeking letters of recommendation and help in fleeing the country.
00:18:24.000 This is just obviously horrifying stuff.
00:18:27.000 It's going to get more horrifying, by the way.
00:18:28.000 The footage will eventually emerge of people simply being shot because the Taliban is apparently doing this.
00:18:33.000 The Taliban is simply taking places over and murdering people.
00:18:37.000 The New York Times reporting on what it's like living under the Taliban as they rush into Kunduz.
00:18:41.000 It was his first day as the Taliban-appointed mayor of Kunduz, and Gul Muhammad Elias was on a charm offensive.
00:18:46.000 Last Sunday, the insurgents seized control of the city in northern Afghanistan, which was in shambles after weeks of fighting.
00:18:51.000 Power lines were down.
00:18:52.000 The water supplied powered by generators did not reach most residents.
00:18:55.000 Trash and rubble littered the streets.
00:18:56.000 The civil servants who could fix those problems were hiding at home, terrified of the Taliban.
00:19:00.000 So the insurgent commander-turned-mayor summoned some to his new office to persuade them to return to work.
00:19:05.000 I said our jihad is not with the municipality.
00:19:07.000 Our jihad is against the occupiers and those who defend the occupiers.
00:19:10.000 But day by day, as municipal offices stayed mostly empty, Mr. Elias grew more frustrated and his rhetoric grew harsher.
00:19:16.000 Taliban fighters began going door to door searching for absentee city workers.
00:19:19.000 Hundreds of armed men set up checkpoints across the city.
00:19:22.000 At the entrance to the regional hospital, a new notice appeared on the wall.
00:19:25.000 Employees must return to work or face punishment from the Taliban.
00:19:28.000 Just a week after the fall of Kunduz, the insurgents are now in effective control of Afghanistan.
00:19:32.000 Now they must function as administrators who can provide basic services to hundreds of thousands of people.
00:19:38.000 In just days, the insurgents, frustrated by their failed efforts to cajole civil servants back to work, began instilling terror, according to residents reached by telephone.
00:19:44.000 I'm afraid.
00:19:45.000 I don't know what will happen and what they will do, said one.
00:19:47.000 We have to smile at them because we are scared, but we are deeply unhappy.
00:19:50.000 Three days after the Taliban took control in Kunduz, Atikullah Omar Khil, a civil servant, received a call from an insurgent fighter telling him to go to his office.
00:19:57.000 The mayor of Kunduz wanted to speak with him.
00:19:59.000 Mr. Omar Khil had been staying home since the retreat of government forces as insurgents flooded into the streets and a sense of unease gripped the battered city.
00:20:06.000 He had experienced a similar moment twice before when the Taliban seized Kunduz in 2015 and 2016.
00:20:11.000 Both times the insurgents were pushed back with help from the American airstrikes.
00:20:14.000 This time, days after the Taliban took control, the entire Afghan Army Corps charged with reclaiming the city surrendered to the insurgents.
00:20:20.000 They gave them their weapons and they gave them their vehicles.
00:20:23.000 All of the government's vehicles, garbage trucks, and computers were exactly where he had left them before the Taliban took over and young fighters poured into the city.
00:20:29.000 The only sign of change was blank spaces on the walls where photos of President Ashraf Ghani had been.
00:20:34.000 Instead, the Taliban's white flags had been hung.
00:20:38.000 Mr. Elias assured the workers they would not be targeted by the Taliban and instructed them to return to work to improve morale.
00:20:44.000 Halfway through the meeting, a shopkeeper pleaded with the Taliban bodyguard to see the mayor.
00:20:47.000 Like hundreds of others, his kiosk had been mostly destroyed by fire during the Taliban's final push.
00:20:51.000 He said shopkeepers wanted the Taliban's promise they could return to the market to collect their things safely.
00:20:56.000 The mayor complied.
00:20:57.000 For the rest of the day, Elias met with other municipal leaders trying to get services restored.
00:21:02.000 There was some progress, but nearly every shop is closed.
00:21:04.000 The shopkeepers are fearing that they will be looted by the Taliban fighters.
00:21:08.000 About 500 Taliban fighters were stationed around the city, manning checkpoints on nearly every street corner.
00:21:14.000 By the end of the week, many residents' fears were being realized at the regional hospitals.
00:21:17.000 Taliban fighters seized a list of employees' phone numbers and home addresses, began calling them, demanding they return to work.
00:21:23.000 One person who had fled to Kabul received a call from a Taliban fighter demanding he return to work.
00:21:27.000 At the hospital, armed Taliban were keeping track of attendants.
00:21:31.000 Female staff wore sky blue burqas, as they assisted in surgeries intended to wounds from the airstrikes.
00:21:37.000 Things are going to go great.
00:21:38.000 Things are going to go just beautifully.
00:21:39.000 Okay, so it's not just that there are terrible ramifications for everybody who is stuck in Afghanistan, of course.
00:21:44.000 It's that there are bad ramifications for the United States.
00:21:48.000 The chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Mark Milley, when he's not lecturing everybody about the evils of white privilege, he told senators on Sunday a previous assessment of how soon terrorist groups will reconstitute in Afghanistan will speed up.
00:22:01.000 On a Sunday phone call between top Biden officials and senators from both parties, Senator Lindsey Graham asked Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin and Milley whether they will revise an assessment to Congress in June of a medium risk of terrorist groups reconstituting in Afghanistan within two years.
00:22:14.000 Milley said yes.
00:22:15.000 He would have to assume that timeline would now be moved up.
00:22:18.000 He would be happy to brief senators in the classified setting.
00:22:22.000 Sources on the call described a surreal experience listening in on the Biden officials brief them on the situation while checking their cell phones and seeing real-time chaos unfolding in Kabul.
00:22:32.000 Senators from both parties pressed Milley and Austin on efforts to evacuate U.S.
00:22:35.000 personnel and the many thousands of Afghans who helped Americans in the war effort and are desperately trying to escape.
00:22:40.000 A source said the sad reality is there's no way they can evacuate by August 31st the more than 20,000 Afghans who want to escape the country.
00:22:46.000 And that's not including their families.
00:22:48.000 You're probably talking more like 75 or 80,000 people who want to escape the country and are not going to be able to get out.
00:22:54.000 Two takeaways for me, what said one source, we're going to leave tens of thousands of people behind and a timeline in terms of threats has now accelerated.
00:23:00.000 Remember, that was the original reason we went there in the first place. Anthony Blinken was asked, is the Taliban controlled territory now going to become a hotbed of terrorism again? He just avoided the question, as he is apt to do. You don't think that Afghanistan now is going to become a hotbed of terrorism? Jake, we have tremendously more capacity than we had before 9-11 when it comes to counterterrorism.
00:23:23.000 In places around the world where we don't have forces on the ground, in Yemen, in parts of Africa, in parts of Syria, we're able to deal with any potential terrorist threat to our country.
00:23:33.000 And we're doing that every single day.
00:23:36.000 And look, I can't tell you what the Taliban is going to do.
00:23:41.000 Um, that would be a complete non-answer.
00:23:43.000 So he asked him, is Afghanistan going to become a terror hotbed?
00:23:46.000 And he's like, well, Yemen isn't.
00:23:48.000 So, well, I noticed that Yemen isn't in Afghanistan.
00:23:50.000 So that's a weird answer, Antony Blinken.
00:23:53.000 By the way, when the United States leaves a vacuum, somebody rushes in to fill it.
00:23:55.000 According to Foreign Policy Magazine, it is not merely a question of what happens in Afghanistan.
00:23:59.000 It's also a question of the United States' global enemies maximizing their benefit right now.
00:24:05.000 According to foreignpolicy.com, U.S.
00:24:08.000 President Joe Biden's announcement U.S.
00:24:09.000 troops will be gone from Afghanistan by August 31st will remove the most formidable obstacle to total Taliban takeover of the country.
00:24:15.000 For 20 years, the U.S.
00:24:16.000 presence in Afghanistan, though not always appreciated, has nevertheless served as a predictable and stabilizing force.
00:24:21.000 Now, the prospect of renewed Taliban rule has sparked major anxiety among the region's powers.
00:24:25.000 For example, Earlier this month, Indian Minister of External Affairs S Jaishankar visited Moscow and Tehran while Taliban representatives were in each city, raising questions about whether back-channel negotiations are ongoing.
00:24:36.000 So India doesn't want to be on the outside looking in because Afghanistan, which will ally presumably with Pakistan, now provides a threat to India.
00:24:44.000 So India is going to start making overtures to Afghanistan.
00:24:47.000 Meanwhile, China is going to be making overtures to Afghanistan as well.
00:24:51.000 Russia is making overtures to the Taliban.
00:24:53.000 Moscow is preparing to leverage the Six Nation Collective Security Treaty Organization to address potential trouble at the Afghan-Tajik border, which is being taken over by the Taliban on the Afghan side.
00:25:03.000 Islamabad has now negotiated, that's Pakistan, a quid pro quo with the Taliban to reject U.S.
00:25:08.000 bases on Pakistani territory in exchange for the Taliban's assistance in combating Pakistan's own Taliban-style militants.
00:25:14.000 So now, it's not even that the United States is going to lose its bases in Afghanistan.
00:25:18.000 Also, the U.S.
00:25:18.000 is going to have no staging bases in Pakistan.
00:25:22.000 Okay, which is next door.
00:25:23.000 So there went the security cooperation with Pakistan, whatever that was worth.
00:25:27.000 Amid all of this regional angst, China is quietly attempting to secure its interests in post-US Afghanistan.
00:25:32.000 Beijing has been actively engaging with Kabul on construction of a Peshawar-Kabul motorway, which will connect Pakistan to Afghanistan and make Kabul a participant in China's Belt and Road Initiative.
00:25:42.000 Up until now, Kabul didn't want to do that because the United States was helping them out.
00:25:45.000 Now, Beijing is building a major road through the Wakhan Corridor, a slim strip of mountainous territory connecting China's westernmost province of Zhejiang to Afghanistan and onward to Pakistan and Central Asia.
00:25:57.000 According to a 2014 report, Afghanistan may possess nearly a trillion dollars worth of extractable rare earth metals locked within its mountains.
00:26:05.000 China will now have some control over that.
00:26:09.000 Yes, when the United States leaves a vacuum, bad things happen.
00:26:11.000 Okay, so time to ask a serious question.
00:26:14.000 How did any of this happen?
00:26:15.000 How did this happen in the first place?
00:26:16.000 I gave you a sort of brief history of Afghanistan and the failures of all the administrations prior, but let's talk for just one second about Joe Biden.
00:26:25.000 So, Joe Biden is now blaming Trump.
00:26:29.000 He, of course, says, well, it's not my fault that I decided to simply precipitously withdraw.
00:26:32.000 They put out a pathetic picture, like over the weekend.
00:26:36.000 This White House tweet, they tweeted out a picture of Joe Biden alone in the Situation Room saying, this morning, the president and vice president met with their national security team and senior officials to hear updates on the drawdown of our civilian personnel in Afghanistan, evacuations of SIV applicants and other Afghan allies and the ongoing security situation in Kabul.
00:26:54.000 Well, I mean, if you took a picture.
00:26:56.000 I mean, as long as we know that's not a stock photo or anything.
00:26:58.000 There was speculation that was a stock photo.
00:27:00.000 By the way, we don't know if that's true or not.
00:27:02.000 The speculation was because on the wall, the time difference between Moscow and China is apparently two hours when it should be three.
00:27:09.000 And the reason that it is two hours is because before March, it's actually a two-hour time difference.
00:27:13.000 So people were speculating that's not actually a photo from like right now.
00:27:15.000 It doesn't really matter very much.
00:27:17.000 Bottom line is, Joe Biden is not present.
00:27:20.000 According to the Wall Street Journal, during the 2020 political campaign, Biden presented himself as a globe-trotting leader who had helmed the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, served as Barack Obama's point man on complex international issues, and who was determined to bring a steady hand to national security.
00:27:34.000 Yet the turmoil that has now engulfed Afghanistan, which has led Biden to send 5,000 troops back to the country, by the way, which, by the way, that's double the number of troops that he was taking out in April.
00:27:43.000 So remember that time when we were supposed to withdraw?
00:27:44.000 Now we have 6,000 troops total into the country, apparently.
00:27:48.000 Well, wait a second.
00:27:48.000 confronted the White House with a rather large crisis.
00:27:52.000 Biden said in a statement on Saturday, one more year or five more years of US military presence would not, would not have made a difference if the Afghan military cannot or will not hold its own country.
00:28:02.000 And an endless American presence in the middle of another country's civil conflict was not acceptable to me.
00:28:06.000 Well, wait a second.
00:28:07.000 I'm questioning.
00:28:08.000 It wasn't about us being present in the middle of another country's civil conflict.
00:28:12.000 It was, do we have the capacity to back allies in killing terrorists or not?
00:28:17.000 That we do all over the world, by the way.
00:28:18.000 The United States military is present in over a hundred countries.
00:28:22.000 This apparently will not be one of them, even though it is now a chief terror target.
00:28:26.000 Meanwhile, by the way, Blinken ramped up the Biden administration's effort to deflect criticism, saying that Trump had allowed the Taliban threat to grow.
00:28:33.000 Okay, so here's the question.
00:28:34.000 Even assuming that's true, even assuming that Trump blew it with regard to the Taliban, you came in and then just handed them the country, along with all of our allies who will now be slaughtered, along with all of our resources, because you decided to precipitously pull out, announce the date, and then just leave.
00:28:49.000 And by the way, it's even worse than that.
00:28:52.000 Joe Biden wants to take credit for that.
00:28:54.000 He overruled everybody to do this.
00:28:56.000 His own intelligence officials were saying, this is an idiotic idea.
00:28:59.000 His own generals were saying, this is moronic.
00:29:03.000 I mean, President Biden said on Saturday he's going to be sending approximately 5,000 U.S.
00:29:07.000 troops to safely evacuate U.S.
00:29:08.000 and allied personnel, according to the Wall Street Journal, a force slightly larger than the 3,000 personnel who are already in transit back to Afghanistan and the 1,000 already there.
00:29:16.000 But this spectacular failure stemmed from built-in flaws of the Afghan military, compounded by strategic blundering of the government of Afghan President Ashraf Ghani.
00:29:25.000 The Taliban took advantage of U.S.-sponsored peace talks to deceive Kabul about their intentions as they prepared and executed a lightning offensive.
00:29:32.000 Here's the key part, you ready?
00:29:33.000 Here's how bad Biden blew this.
00:29:35.000 The Afghan army, fighting alongside American troops, was molded to match the way the Americans operate.
00:29:41.000 The US military, the world's most advanced, relies heavily on combining ground operations with air power, using aircraft to resupply outposts, strike targets, ferry the wounded, and collect reconnaissance and intelligence.
00:29:52.000 In the wake of President Biden's withdrawal decision, the U.S.
00:29:54.000 pulled its air support, intelligence, and contractors servicing Afghanistan's planes and helicopters.
00:30:00.000 That meant the Afghan military simply could not operate anymore.
00:30:04.000 The same happened with another failed American effort, the South Vietnamese Army in the 1970s, said retired Lieutenant General Daniel Bolger, who commanded the U.S.-led coalition's mission to train Afghan forces in 2011 and 2013.
00:30:14.000 So, just to reiterate, the United States worked with the Afghan forces.
00:30:17.000 They trained them in a certain type of combat, namely, they could call American airstrikes in.
00:30:21.000 They had the ability to call in American air resources to clear an area or to pick up the wounded.
00:30:26.000 And then what did Joe Biden do?
00:30:28.000 He said, we're not doing any of that anymore.
00:30:30.000 So it's not just a matter of air support disappearing.
00:30:33.000 It's a matter of the entire model was rooted in a particular level of American support.
00:30:37.000 And without any warning whatsoever, Biden just withdrew the support.
00:30:40.000 Boom.
00:30:40.000 All the supports are gone.
00:30:41.000 Okay.
00:30:42.000 That is like a house that exists in the Hollywood Hills and the foundations are not particularly stable.
00:30:48.000 You could shore up those foundations or theoretically you could just dynamite them and then be surprised when the house falls down.
00:30:54.000 Joe Biden decided to dynamite the foundations for whatever the security strategy was here.
00:31:00.000 There's always a tendency to use the model you know, which is your own model.
00:31:03.000 So General Bulger, who now teaches history at North Carolina State University, when you build an army like that, and it's meant to be a partner with a sophisticated force like the Americans, you can't pull the Americans out all of a sudden because then they lose the day-to-day assistance they need.
00:31:15.000 When U.S.
00:31:15.000 forces were still operating here, the Afghan government sought to maximize its presence through the country's far-flung countryside, maintaining more than 200 bases and outposts that could be resupplied only by air.
00:31:26.000 There were no resupplies available once the United States removed its support.
00:31:30.000 Extending government operations to Afghanistan's more than 400 districts has long been the main pillar of America's counterinsurgency strategy.
00:31:40.000 Mr. Ghani had ample warning of the American departure after the Trump administration signed a February 2020 agreement with the Taliban calling on U.S.
00:31:47.000 forces and contractors to leave by May 2021, but the Afghan government failed to adjust its military footprint to match the new reality.
00:31:54.000 Many officials didn't believe that they would actually leave.
00:31:56.000 Okay, by the way, Joe Biden was informed of all of this.
00:32:01.000 He was told about all of this, and then he just did it anyway.
00:32:05.000 That's the part that's so stunning.
00:32:08.000 I mean, he overruled his own advisors.
00:32:12.000 None of his advisors told him that this was a good idea.
00:32:15.000 They were all telling him it's a terrible idea.
00:32:18.000 They were telling him exactly what was going to happen.
00:32:20.000 This wasn't an intelligence failure.
00:32:22.000 People are trying to blame this on the intel community.
00:32:23.000 This is not an intelligence failure.
00:32:25.000 This is a political failure by Joe Biden.
00:32:27.000 He did not care what happened next, period.
00:32:31.000 That's the end of it.
00:32:33.000 I mean, how bad was this, by the way?
00:32:36.000 How bad did Joe Biden absolutely F these people?
00:32:39.000 How bad?
00:32:40.000 He did it so bad that President Biden refuses to allow contractors to continue operating in the country.
00:32:48.000 There's no support.
00:32:49.000 He withdrew all of it.
00:32:51.000 They're all gone.
00:32:54.000 According to the Daily Beast, in the last few weeks, Afghanistan's air force became a sticking point in negotiations between the Biden administration and Afghan officials, according to one person familiar with the talks.
00:33:03.000 The country's mostly U.S.
00:33:05.000 provided air fleet was dependent on foreign contractors to assist with maintenance.
00:33:09.000 As the U.S.
00:33:09.000 withdrawal took hold, the Biden administration refused to even allow contractors into the country to service the Afghan military's aircraft.
00:33:18.000 The United States effectively grounded the Afghan air force So we took away our planes, and we said, you can't use those anymore.
00:33:26.000 And the Afghan government said, okay, fine, we'll use ours.
00:33:28.000 Can we at least borrow some of your contractors so that, you know, our airplanes fly?
00:33:31.000 And the U.S.
00:33:31.000 is like, nope.
00:33:32.000 You're on your own.
00:33:33.000 You're gonna have to get Mohammed over there, the guy who's herding the sheep.
00:33:35.000 You're gonna have to get him over here.
00:33:37.000 He's gonna have to fix up the Apache.
00:33:40.000 And then they're surprised at what happened?
00:33:42.000 In the interim, Afghan air crews were forced to get creative.
00:33:45.000 Maintenance personnel were relying on Zoom calls with American experts in order to figure out how to maintain the aircraft left behind by the Americans.
00:33:53.000 I'm sure that was going great.
00:33:55.000 I'm sure customers are, okay, can you get a better angle?
00:33:57.000 You got your Zoom ready?
00:33:58.000 Okay, we're gonna take out your laptop.
00:33:59.000 You're gonna aim it in the general direction of the engine of an Apache attack helicopter.
00:34:03.000 And now I need you to explain to me why it's not working.
00:34:08.000 Gonna go fantastic.
00:34:11.000 Now it's a mood issue.
00:34:12.000 Photos posted to social media show that Taliban fighters have captured US-provided A-29 Super Tucano light attack aircraft and MD-530F helicopters.
00:34:21.000 Former British International Development Secretary Rory Stewart told the BBC on Sunday, everything is going wrong. Schools are shutting down across the country. Clinics are shutting down across the country. People are taking refuge in their home. Looting is taking place.
00:34:32.000 And of course, again, everybody who had the temerity to work with us is going to be murdered.
00:34:40.000 That is the likely next step here.
00:34:43.000 Now, the good news is that, again, the State Department is making some very strong statements here.
00:34:47.000 Like, some very, very strong statements.
00:34:49.000 In fact, the State Department put out this particular statement, and it is a stunning masterpiece of just self-importance and delusion.
00:34:56.000 Quote, Given the deteriorating security situation, we support, are working to secure, and call on all parties to respect and facilitate the safe and orderly departure of foreign nationals and Afghans who wish to leave the country.
00:35:07.000 Those in positions of power and authority across Afghanistan bear responsibility and accountability for the protection of human life and property and for the immediate restoration of security and civil order.
00:35:16.000 Afghans and international citizens who wish to depart must be allowed to do so.
00:35:19.000 Roads, airports, and border crossings must remain open and calm must be maintained.
00:35:23.000 The Afghan people deserve to live in safety, security, and dignity.
00:35:26.000 We in the international community stand ready to assist them.
00:35:31.000 Stand ready to assist them?
00:35:32.000 You literally just left!
00:35:34.000 You literally just left!
00:35:36.000 Okay, this is a domestic argument where the police officer arrives and the husband is literally beating the wife to death.
00:35:41.000 And the police officer takes one look and he goes, you know what?
00:35:44.000 Can't do anything here and walks away.
00:35:45.000 But as he walks away, he says, lady, if you need help, remember, I'm only a 911 phone call away.
00:35:51.000 That's what this is right now.
00:35:53.000 That is so unbelievably delusional.
00:35:56.000 So unbelievably delusional.
00:35:57.000 But by the way, the delusions don't stop there.
00:36:00.000 We'll get to more delusional nonsense from the State Department.
00:36:02.000 This is crazy.
00:36:03.000 I mean, it's absolutely nuts.
00:36:04.000 Don't worry, though.
00:36:05.000 Joe Biden is not going to miss an episode of Matlock.
00:36:06.000 He has not spoken to the American people over the weekend at all.
00:36:09.000 He wasn't planning to.
00:36:10.000 The Taliban had a press conference from the headquarters of the Afghan government.
00:36:14.000 But Joe Biden?
00:36:15.000 That dude's playing shuffleboard up at Camp David.
00:36:18.000 He cannot be bothered.
00:36:20.000 We'll get to more in just one second.
00:36:21.000 I mean, you know how many Americans died to secure at least a base, a foothold for the United States to target terror in this region?
00:36:28.000 You know how many Americans were wounded in Afghanistan?
00:36:31.000 Tens of thousands of Americans.
00:36:33.000 Lost limbs.
00:36:34.000 Were wounded.
00:36:35.000 Suffer severe psychological distress.
00:36:37.000 In order to maintain a base of operations from which we can kill terrorists so we don't get another 9-11.
00:36:42.000 And this dumbass decides, you know what?
00:36:44.000 I'm pulling out.
00:36:44.000 I'm not providing any support.
00:36:46.000 I'm going to not even allow contractors in there to fix their airplanes.
00:36:49.000 But how did this happen?
00:36:50.000 And by the way, it's nothing like Saigon.
00:36:51.000 I mean, just nothing.
00:36:53.000 How could you even see a similarity between this and Saigon?
00:36:56.000 Unreal.
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00:39:17.000 Alrighty, so the State Department's response to this, the Biden Administration's response to this is so unbelievably insane.
00:39:25.000 I mean, it's truly crazy.
00:39:27.000 It really is.
00:39:28.000 And it is as though O.J.
00:39:31.000 Simpson just murdered a bunch of people.
00:39:34.000 It's at least some guy who's just standing there watching O.J.
00:39:35.000 Simpson do it.
00:39:37.000 It's like, don't worry guys, I can always, if you need me to step in, I'm right here.
00:39:40.000 Meanwhile, I'm just sitting there, having a pina colada, watching O.J.
00:39:43.000 kill his ex-wife.
00:39:44.000 Like, this is pretty much what is happening right now with the United States.
00:39:48.000 The State Department's statement where they said that they stand ready to assist in any way is just so crazy.
00:39:53.000 Nancy Pelosi loved it, by the way.
00:39:55.000 Nancy Pelosi actually put out her own statement.
00:39:57.000 She said the president is to be commended for the clarity of purpose of his statement on Afghanistan and his action.
00:40:01.000 The Taliban must know the world is watching its actions.
00:40:04.000 We are concerned about reports regarding the Taliban's brutal treatment of all Afghans, especially women and girls.
00:40:09.000 Oh really?
00:40:12.000 Oh, really?
00:40:13.000 Are you concerned?
00:40:14.000 Quote, the U.S., the international community, and the Afghan government must do everything we can to protect women and girls from inhumane treatment by the Taliban.
00:40:21.000 As we strive to assist them, we must recognize that their voices are important and respect their culture.
00:40:26.000 Is she, is she addled?
00:40:29.000 I mean, the answer is clearly yes, she's addled.
00:40:31.000 I mean, there is a screw loose.
00:40:33.000 All the lights are not on upstairs.
00:40:34.000 There are marbles missing from the marble jar.
00:40:39.000 That pinball machine broke long ago.
00:40:42.000 I'm running out of euphemisms for how crazy that statement is.
00:40:45.000 That is so crazy!
00:40:47.000 I mean, what?
00:40:49.000 So, we care deeply about the Afghan women and girls.
00:40:51.000 And the Afghan government bears serious responsibility.
00:40:54.000 And I, Nancy Pelosi, will tut-tut the 8th century cavemen about their treatment of women and girls.
00:41:00.000 That's how much we care.
00:41:01.000 We care so much.
00:41:02.000 The international community will hold you responsible by completely leaving and letting those girls get hit with acid in the face for going to school.
00:41:09.000 But Nancy Pelosi cares so deeply about women.
00:41:10.000 She's so much for women's rights that she tweets angrily about things that don't even make any sense.
00:41:16.000 My good.
00:41:18.000 She is a couple of cards shy of a full deck.
00:41:20.000 That lady.
00:41:21.000 Wow.
00:41:22.000 Wow.
00:41:24.000 Hey, Tony Blinken, for his part, the State Department Secretary, he says, you know, it's not in our interest to stay after all.
00:41:31.000 Like it or not, there was an agreement that the forces would come out on May 1st.
00:41:36.000 Had we not begun that process, which is what the president did, and the Taliban saw, then we would have been back at war with the Taliban.
00:41:42.000 By the way, from the perspective of our strategic competitors around the world, there's nothing they would like more than to see us in Afghanistan for another 5, 10, 20 years.
00:41:50.000 It's simply not in the national interest.
00:41:52.000 That's insane!
00:41:54.000 They would like to see us stay there?
00:41:56.000 Then why is it that the minute we left, the Russians and the Chinese all rushed in?
00:42:00.000 And the Pakistanis, and the Indians, and everybody else.
00:42:03.000 Why?
00:42:04.000 Why?
00:42:04.000 We all know the answer to this.
00:42:07.000 Not in our interest to stay.
00:42:08.000 But our strategic competitors are happy if we stay.
00:42:12.000 In what world?
00:42:13.000 In what insane world?
00:42:14.000 This is so disconnected from anything remotely resembling reality.
00:42:19.000 This is what's maddening.
00:42:19.000 What happened here is that a perfectly pure and beautiful idea ran up directly against the brick wall of reality.
00:42:25.000 And the brick wall of reality is winning.
00:42:28.000 It is not a shock.
00:42:29.000 The Biden administration decided to drive, Thelma and Louise style, this car directly over the cliff.
00:42:34.000 And it was fun until gravity applied.
00:42:37.000 The movie, it turns out, didn't end with the car in slow-mo sailing over a gap.
00:42:41.000 It turns out the movie continues.
00:42:43.000 And then the car bursts into flame when it hits the bottom with the two ladies inside.
00:42:47.000 That's the part they don't show in the movie.
00:42:48.000 Because it's not heroic.
00:42:50.000 When you burst into flame at the bottom and you die, it means you were a moron.
00:42:54.000 And what they've done here is moronic.
00:42:56.000 And it is not only intellectually moronic.
00:43:01.000 It is politically moronic.
00:43:03.000 It is, in terms of foreign policy, immoral.
00:43:07.000 Tony Blinken, I love these kind of statements.
00:43:08.000 He then says, you know what?
00:43:09.000 But here's the thing.
00:43:10.000 We will not legitimize their government.
00:43:11.000 If they don't do what we want them to do, we won't give them legitimacy.
00:43:14.000 You literally handed them the country.
00:43:16.000 We won't legitimize that government.
00:43:17.000 Well, if you don't invite them to your Georgetown cocktail party, I'm sure the Taliban are going to be super pissed.
00:43:23.000 If they can't get a nice Manhattan, they'll probably just cry themselves to sleep with their AK-47s and the Apache attack helicopters you just gave them.
00:43:32.000 Probably they will weep into their beer over not being able to eat caviar with Anthony Blinken.
00:43:39.000 Here's Blinken saying, we're not going to legitimize their government.
00:43:41.000 We wouldn't do that.
00:43:43.000 They are illegitimate.
00:43:45.000 You, sir.
00:43:45.000 You, sir, are illegitimate.
00:43:47.000 What in the world?
00:43:49.000 Illegitimate.
00:43:52.000 Again, I go back to the O.J.
00:43:53.000 thing.
00:43:53.000 It's like O.J.' 's stabbing his ex-wife and the guy's like, Sir, you seem unpleasant to me.
00:43:59.000 What you're doing is quite illegitimate and I insist that you stop.
00:44:04.000 Yes, this is working out well.
00:44:06.000 Here's Anthony Blinken.
00:44:08.000 A future Afghan government that upholds the basic rights of its people and that doesn't harbor terrorists is a government we can work with and recognize.
00:44:19.000 Conversely, A government that doesn't do that, that doesn't uphold the basic rights of its people, including women and girls, that harbors terrorist groups that have designs on the United States for allies and partners, certainly that's not going to happen.
00:44:33.000 Oh man, we won't be happy with you.
00:44:36.000 By the way, the agreement that you insisted on keeping also had requirements of the Taliban.
00:44:40.000 Like, don't invade the entire country.
00:44:42.000 You know what they didn't do?
00:44:43.000 Listen to any of that.
00:44:44.000 And then you say that you're abiding by those agreements.
00:44:47.000 Whatever agreement Trump made was also contingent on Taliban performance of their end.
00:44:51.000 You didn't care.
00:44:52.000 You've said you didn't care.
00:44:53.000 You've said if they violate the agreement, you wouldn't do anything.
00:44:55.000 And you didn't.
00:44:56.000 By the way, here's the good news.
00:44:56.000 President Biden is expected to address the nation, according to CNN.
00:44:59.000 Not like there's anything going on in the world.
00:45:01.000 He's busy.
00:45:03.000 He's a busy guy.
00:45:04.000 He's at Camp David, cutting his toenails and making sure that he eats his cream of wheat in the proper measure.
00:45:11.000 He, the man needs his can of Ensure every morning.
00:45:14.000 He doesn't have time for you and your petty worries about, you know, the destruction of an entire nation because we failed to keep any sort of basic level of moral or foreign policy commitment.
00:45:24.000 He's a busy, busy man.
00:45:26.000 That's all.
00:45:27.000 All righty.
00:45:28.000 We'll be back here later today with much, much more.
00:45:31.000 In the meantime, go check out the Michael Knowles show that is available right now.
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