00:00:07.000Not all Muslims are devotees of Islam in the nature of a political system, but Islam as a political philosophy is not compatible with the West.1.00
00:00:15.000Now, Bill Maher has been incredibly consistent on the true threat of Islam.0.98
00:00:18.000His monologue from real time last Friday hit the nail on the head again.0.98
00:00:22.000As for the rest of the Democrats, well, they're either totally asleep at the wheel or they're teaching young Americans that Bin Laden was one of the good guys.
00:00:28.000Speaking of Muslims who actually do hate America, Could Ilhan Omar be deported or jailed for marrying her brother, allegedly?
00:00:35.000We'll also be joined by Dan Bermoui, a Muslim apostate, to talk about the theological reasons why Islam does not jive with Western values in just one second.0.60
00:00:43.000Over the weekend, the broad scale conversation of which our new movie, Run Hide Fight Infidels, is very much a part about the state of Islam in the world continued.0.66
00:00:52.000Bill Maher did a pretty astonishing segment on real time on HBO in which he talked about Democrats talking about 9 11 and the Gaza war and not really understanding what the hell they're talking about.0.58
00:01:03.000Fighting people who hate freedom of religion and hate homosexuals and hate the idea of women as equal and free humans.
00:01:11.000How did liberals wind up on their side?
00:02:19.000Because nowhere has this moral confusion become more obvious than in a place called Gaza, a little strip of land that was not part of the original Israel, but which they won in a war launched against them, but then gave back.
00:02:41.000Bill Maher has always been crystal clear about the threat of Islam as a philosophy.1.00
00:02:46.000Again, I will say it for the thousandth time for those in the back.1.00
00:02:49.000Making the point that Islam and its belief system are not conciliatory with that of the West does not mean all Muslims are bad or that no Muslim can be a good Western citizen.0.73
00:03:00.000Everywhere it is applied, everywhere is a philosophy that inhibits.1.00
00:03:06.000All of the things that make the West great.0.99
00:03:09.000Islam inhibits freedom of religion, it inhibits freedom of speech, it inhibits free markets, it inhibits all sorts of things.0.93
00:03:16.000The notion that if you criticize Islam as a political philosophy, or note that Islam, as Sam Huntington, the author of Clash of Civilizations, put it, that Islam has both bloody borders and bloody innards, which is true geopolitically, that if you note that that's Islamophobia, it's nonsense and it needs to be fought.
00:03:35.000It especially needs to be fought because, again, it is part and parcel of a broader argument now being made in the West.0.99
00:03:40.000That, as Bill Maher correctly notes, is America sucks, so whoever attacks it is good, which is trash.0.75
00:03:46.000One of the people making that point, of course, is Hassan Piker, who's out there saying that the only reason people care about 9 11 is because they are being forced to care about 9 11.0.98
00:03:55.000Some of us kind of care about it because we don't like when our fellow Americans get murdered.
00:05:35.000How about your ability to afford the basic things?
00:05:37.000How about the ability to believe that you could see a doctor without having to potentially fall into medical debt?
00:05:42.000Those are the conversations that people are having.
00:05:44.000Those are the conversations I'm interested in having.
00:05:46.000So, yeah, I'm not all that interested in having a conversation about a trick streamer, forgive me, when people can't afford their gas and their groceries.
00:05:54.000I mean, some of us are kind of concerned on the 25th anniversary of 9 11.
00:05:57.000About a candidate who literally tweeted about 9 11, that bad things happened on 9 11, and then America did way worse to everybody else.
00:06:03.000Because, of course, America is a terrible, horrible place.
00:06:06.000And remember, Abdul El Sayed is the same person who said he would not, he would not in any way praise the death of Ayatollah Khomeini, a mass murderer, because too many people in Dearborn, Michigan might like Ayatollah Khomeini.
00:07:35.000In the United States, of Christian nationalists taking over the federal government and then forcing people to convert to Christianity and abide by Christianity by law.0.92
00:07:44.000Whereas all over the world, in Muslim majority countries, literally everywhere, literally everywhere, Islam imposed from the top down inhibits human freedom.0.93
00:08:16.000But she's going to try to claim that that is somehow the same as Islam globally, which, okay.0.87
00:08:22.000You know, it's interesting to me that conservatives are quick to associate maybe the worst aspects of terrorists with Muslims.0.96
00:08:33.000But then when you have, you know, Christian nationalists like that, That pastor who, you know, Pete Hegseth invited to the Pentagon, who thinks that women shouldn't have the right to vote, that they should be subservient to their husbands, they should stay at home and have babies.0.54
00:08:55.000So, first of all, we'll point out that if the most radical you can do in America is there's a Christian pastor who was once invited by a dude in the Pentagon to speak, and he says that women shouldn't have the right to vote, as opposed to there are imams.0.64
00:09:09.000All over the United States, and there are people at the head of governments all over planet Earth who call for literally the murder of people who are not co religionists.0.65
00:09:17.000Those are not remotely the same thing.
00:09:18.000I'll be on with CNN's Abby Phillip tonight.
00:09:31.000So, whataboutism is where you say that it's okay for your side because the other side does it.0.80
00:09:36.000But here's my question Abby Phillip could say, I don't like the Christian nationalism.
00:09:42.000You know what I really don't like?0.53
00:09:43.000I really don't like Islamic Sharia law imposition all over planet Earth and the fact that a plurality of American Muslims are sympathetic to Hamas.
00:09:54.000But she is using the lack of condemnation of Christian nationalism to excuse the Islamic radicalism, which, again, I don't understand that at all.
00:10:06.000But I suppose we may have that conversation.
00:10:08.000And meanwhile, on the immigration front, DHS Secretary Mark Wayne Mullen told Benny Johnson that there's an investigation into Ilhan Omar.
00:10:20.000An investigation is predicated on the fairly evidentiary assertion, or at least allegation, That Ilhan Omar basically committed immigration fraud to get her brother into the country.
00:10:33.000According to the Daily Mail back in 2020, Ilhan Omar told friends years ago that the man who went on to become her second husband was, in fact, her brother.
00:10:42.000For the first time, one of those friends has come forward to reveal exactly how Omar and Ahmed Elmi scandalized the Somali community in Minneapolis.
00:10:49.000Abdi Hakim Asman is the first person to go on record and speak of how Omar said she wanted to get her brother papers so he could stay in the United States at a time when she was still married to her first husband, Ahmed Hirsi.
00:10:59.000No one knew there had been a wedding until the media turned up the marriage certificate years later.
00:11:02.000Because of a lack of paperwork in war torn Somalia, where they were both born, positive proof of their relationship has never been uncovered.
00:11:09.000The first report that Omar and her husband were siblings appeared on the website Somalispot in 2016.
00:11:53.000We feel that this may, you know, there may be more to this the whole family migration and possibly some illegal activity for them to come to the United States.
00:12:04.000To begin with, but all of us were investigating.
00:12:07.000Okay, so again, that apparently is a live ongoing investigation.
00:12:10.000Tom Holman, the Borders Are, says there is, in fact, an investigation into Elhan Omar.
00:12:14.000I'm not going to comment on ongoing criminal investigation.
00:12:17.000I know things are going on, but I can't give specifics of what's happening.
00:12:24.000I mean, if someone committed immigration violation, if someone committed marriage fraud or anything like that, regardless if they're a congressman or not, no one's above the law.
00:12:53.000Yeah, look, I said months ago that it's something that's been reported and needs to be looked at.0.99
00:12:57.000And it turns out that, I don't know, mass migrating Somalis into the United States might not have been the world's best idea.0.99
00:13:03.000Because again, unvetted immigration from countries that do not like your general worldview is a bad idea.0.97
00:13:09.000One person who is sort of an expert on this from a personal point of view is Dan Bermali.1.00
00:13:13.000Bermali is a convert from Islam to Christianity.
00:13:17.000And he pointed out over the weekend that unfortunately the 9 11 memorial only has two signs about Islam and Al Qaeda.
00:13:24.000One is about Al Qaeda in the context of the broader Muslim world.
00:13:29.000He says, When you visit the 9 11 Museum in New York, beneath the ground where the Twin Towers once stood, you'll find a section called What Have We Learned.
00:13:35.000The section is not about the ideology that drove 19 men to hijack planes.
00:13:38.000It is not about the religious worldview that justified slaughtering thousands of civilians.
00:13:41.000No, that section is about New York City's mistakes in dealing with the dust and its long term health effects on first responders and residents.
00:13:47.000Tucked away in a corner, almost hidden.
00:13:49.000You'll find the museum's weak defense of Islam, framing Al Qaeda and Islamism as nothing more than a political faction that happened to emerge in the mid 20th century.
00:13:57.000It's designed not to offend, not to name the ideology that inspired the attacks.
00:14:00.000America did not learn the real lessons of 9 11.0.86
00:14:05.000The lesson they should have put front and center is if you ignore the ideology, if you pretend Islam is blameless, you guarantee the same ideas will strike again.0.95
00:14:11.000Instead, the largest section is devoted to dust particles and respiratory illnesses.0.81
00:14:14.000That's why New Yorkers got a jihad loving mayor 24 years after 9 11.0.87
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00:15:38.000So, to kind of establish your bona fides in discussing Islam and the West, why don't you explain to folks your own background, the fact that you were a Muslim, that you're now a Christian?
00:16:16.000Because the moment you start reading about the history, reading the Quran, not only to worship, but to understand, then something happens.1.00
00:16:25.000You realize that this religion is not from Allah, not from God.0.81
00:16:33.000So, Dan, when we discuss Islam and the West, I've made the point that there's a conversation that's dishonest that's going on.
00:16:41.000There's one conversation that's about Islam as a force in the world, as it currently governs, as the vast majority of people across planet Earth practice it.
00:16:47.000And then there is the idea that in order to say that Islam and the West are incompatible, this means that you have to say that every single Muslim who exists in the West is inherently a terrorist or terrorist sympathizer or anything like that.
00:16:58.000I've made the argument these are not the same thing, that you can certainly be a person who, you know, Has Iftar dinner and not be a terrorist supporter, but Islam as a global force and as a governing force wherever it exists is an illiberal force that disagrees with the values of the West.
00:17:12.000What do you make of that argument?0.64
00:17:16.000Okay, Ben, so let me be clear here.1.00
00:17:18.000If you are serious about Islam, then you are a problem.1.00
00:17:23.000You cannot claim that you are serious about Islam.0.98
00:17:27.000You're faithful to Islam without being anti West, without hating Jews, without hating Christians.
00:17:46.000Like, probably 10% of the content of the faith or the system that is religious, that is like praying and fasting.0.95
00:17:54.000But 90% of Islam is political, it is about how to live as a citizen, non Muslims, how they live, their value, so forth and so on.0.97
00:18:06.000So, when you conflate Muslims and Islam, you are serving Islam.0.97
00:18:12.000So, we need to distinguish when we criticize communism.0.70
00:18:15.000You made this argument in your video from a couple days ago.
00:18:20.000When you criticize communism, then you are criticizing ideas, a set of ideas.
00:18:26.000When you criticize Islam, you are criticizing a set of ideas.0.98
00:18:30.000Now, what the faithful, the serious Muslims who want really to take over the West, take over the world, they want you to conflate both Muslims and Islam.
00:18:42.000So, whenever you criticize Islam, you are criticizing Muslims.0.97
00:18:47.000That's what they want, so that they can call you Islamophobe.1.00
00:18:51.000But I always say to moderate Muslims, Let's agree.
00:19:42.000But my message to everyone who's listening when you are criticizing a set of ideas, don't let anyone call you Islamophobe because you have the right to criticize a certain idea if it is a threat to you, to your civilization, just like it was a threat to.0.66
00:20:07.000So, yeah, so when we talk about that set of ideas and how it governs across the planet, I've made the point repeatedly that there is not a single place on planet Earth where Islam has had a liberalizing effect.
00:20:20.000Islam does not, as a philosophy or as a governing system, recognize separation of church and state.0.90
00:20:25.000It does not recognize freedom of speech.0.94
00:20:26.000It does not recognize freedom of religion.0.75
00:20:28.000It doesn't recognize any of those places where it has power.0.86
00:20:31.000And so, when you look to the West, where Muslims are A vast minority or their minority population, and where there's no possibility of Sharia law being imposed, that's not the same thing.0.60
00:20:42.000You're talking about the practice of people as a minority in a system.
00:20:45.000You're not talking about if that system were to predominate.
00:20:48.000So, what does Islam look like where it does predominate, where it does actually have control?
00:20:55.000Well, this rebranding of Islam, which has been happening since October 7th, and the argument that Tucker Carlson made last year when he said, look at Dubai.0.54
00:21:07.000What Sharia made, and Baltimore is what liberal democracy made.0.97
00:21:13.000Of course, this is a false argument because Dubai is the importation of Western values while keeping the shell, the Islamic shell.0.95
00:21:23.000Any Islamic country, and I'm not exaggerating here, any Islamic country that is successful, it is because of the global system, the global Western system that was exported to the rest of the world.0.92
00:21:39.000If you only adhere to Islam, if you want to apply only Islam, I will give you a few successful examples.0.53
00:22:05.000Number two, Sharia is not like the Christian canon or Jewish halakha for many reasons.0.91
00:22:16.000Jews, they don't want to impose halakha on the rest of the world.0.75
00:22:21.000So when they compare halakha, like Muhammad Hijab with Piers Morgan last week, he's like, it's the same argument against halakha, against Sharia.0.74
00:22:35.000Number two, Christian or canon law and Christianity is about spirituality, it's about church relationship with its members.
00:22:46.000It has absolutely nothing to do with the civil law.
00:22:50.000Sharia law contains everything, how you pray, but also if you are not a Muslim living on an Islamic land, how to be dealt with.
00:23:02.000That is like, it's not only civil laws, not only religious laws, it's like about everything.
00:23:07.000It has a foreign policy doctrine, for example, jihad.0.89
00:23:10.000So when Muslims say we want to apply Sharia law in the West, they are saying explicitly we want to replace the Constitution of the United States of America.0.98
00:23:24.000With what we believe to be the divine law, because the US Constitution is a man made law and we must replace it.0.94
00:23:38.000So, Dan, you grew up, as we've mentioned, a Muslim.0.93
00:23:41.000What is the educational process like for a young Muslim growing up in Jordan?
00:23:45.000Obviously, Ayan Hirsi Ali has written what it was like growing up in Kenya as a young Muslim being taught in essentially a Muslim Brotherhood school.
00:23:51.000What are the kinds of things that kids are learning?
00:23:53.000Because I think that one of the great things that the West has failed to understand. Is that if you are brought up in an entirely different system of thought, you don't want the same things unless you sort of break out of that system of thought.
00:24:03.000And so the West tends to project its own ideas about what people want in the world onto everybody.0.66
00:24:08.000This is why you see George W. Bush in 2005 making the argument that every human heart yearns for freedom so we can just plant a democracy in Afghanistan.0.67
00:24:16.000And sure, Sharia law can be in the Constitution, but it'll just, everyone in the end wants the same thing.0.84
00:24:21.000You grew up in Jordan, you were educated in a Muslim system.0.94
00:24:24.000What exactly was it that you learned and what were the priorities in life?
00:24:34.000Someone I'm not going to name, she made a comment on your upcoming movie.0.99
00:24:39.000And she said, Oh, Israel is trying to tell us that Muslims are a problem so that we can allow them to kill all Muslims.0.91
00:24:50.000They're trying to frighten us from Islam, even though this particular person, her ancestors, were massacred on the hand of Muslims a century ago.0.97
00:25:03.000When we talk about, to answer your questions, when we talk about if Islam is a real threat, not only to the West, the rest of humanity, we're not making that up, especially as former Muslims.0.54
00:25:19.000I didn't wake up this morning at 7 a.m. to do this interview because you're paying me, but because we are sincere about saving Western civilization.0.78
00:25:30.000When I was six years old, seven years old, In my school textbook, I learned that Abu Ubaidah, Amr bin Jarrah, the companion of Muhammad, during the Battle of Uhud, beheaded his own father because he was an infidel, he was non Muslim.
00:25:52.000And Allah praised him in the Quran, saying that what you did is wonderful because you served Allah, you served Islam.0.83
00:26:02.000Now imagine you're seven years old and you learn that.1.00
00:26:07.000Non Muslims, if they don't submit to Islam, they deserve to be killed.1.00
00:26:12.000I'm not saying that every Muslim in the world wants to behead all the non Muslims.1.00
00:26:42.000They want to serve Allah, but they cannot believe in this.1.00
00:26:45.000So, anyway, the majority of Muslims would never do that.1.00
00:26:48.000However, they cannot genuinely stand against those who do.0.93
00:26:55.000So, when Hamas massacred Jews on October 7, what happened is that there was a religious justification because what Hamas did was jihad, it was a virtue.0.62
00:27:08.000Muhammad promised Muslims that at the end of times, they will wipe Jews off the map.0.82
00:27:17.000Jews will run to hide behind the trees, behind rocks, and trees will call out to Muslims, Oh, Muslim, oh, slave of Allah, there is a Jew behind me.1.00
00:27:56.000And I believe that, to be fair, I believe that the Jordanian government tried to modify the curriculum to change a little bit, but you cannot believe, and it's happening until now, until this week, you cannot believe the backlash against the Jordanian government for trying to change a few things in the curriculum.
00:28:15.000For example, Changing the Zionist enemy to the occupation, the Israeli occupation, that was, people were not happy with it.
00:28:27.000No, we want you to call them the Zionist enemy, not only the Israeli occupation.
00:28:33.000So even something small as this was not accepted.
00:28:39.000Again, the book is Islam, Israel and the West.
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00:29:01.000Every significant movement in history has started with protesting.0.99