The Ben Shapiro Show - Blowing The Whistle On The Whistleblower | Ep. 892

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00:01:42.000 Okay, we will get to the impeachment gate 2019 updates of the day because that is the large majority of the news today.

00:01:50.000 But first, I want to give you a quick update on what's going on tonight.

00:01:53.000 So tonight, I'm speaking at Stanford University, and it should be a lot of fun.

00:01:57.000 I mean, every year I do the campus tour.

00:01:59.000 This year, in this quarter, we haven't announced what's happening in the next semester, but this semester, we are speaking at Stanford University, as well as Boston University and Baylor University.

00:02:09.000 And in each one of these universities, we have seen people on the left lose it.

00:02:12.000 Over at Boston University, apparently they have been adorning the flyers for my speech with Hitler mustaches, which is always delightful because, you know, when you take an Orthodox Jew and then label him a Hitler. 0.90

00:02:23.000 That's never a bad look at all.

00:02:25.000 I will say it.

00:02:26.000 It is amazing.

00:02:27.000 So many of these social justice warriors on the left, these so-called snowflake types, are the people who are so sensitive that they can't bear to hear an opposing viewpoint.

00:02:35.000 And they're really sensitive because if you say something, it hurts them.

00:02:38.000 It's so hurtful.

00:02:39.000 And the hurt Oh, I can't help it.

00:02:42.000 It just, it hurts so much.

00:02:43.000 And they have to stand up and they have to, they have to protest or they have to, they have to try and get you cancelled.

00:02:48.000 These same people whose sensitivities are just like the all-time high, when it comes to the most blatant violations of civic discourse, they are first and foremost.

00:02:58.000 Now, you contribute to ignorance, like they don't know anything, because this is particularly true when it comes to stereotypes about Jews.

00:03:03.000 They don't know anything and they don't care anything about that because Jews are not an intersectional hierarchy group.

00:03:08.000 For people who don't understand intersectionality, the original concept of intersectionality, as thrown out there by Kimberly Crenshaw, this professor, Maybe that's true, right?

00:03:15.000 sons.

00:03:15.000 Her argument was that there are different ways people can be discriminated against.

00:03:20.000 And if you check the box in a couple of different categories, then you may be discriminated against in more than one way.

00:03:25.000 So for example, if you're a woman, maybe you get discriminated in one way. 0.62

00:03:27.000 And if you're a black woman, maybe you get discriminated against in another way because you're discriminated against by virtue of being both black and a woman. 0.96

00:03:34.000 Now, maybe that's true, right?

00:03:36.000 That argument is at least plausible.

00:03:37.000 But what the intersectional left has done is they've taken that argument and then they have decided that there is an intersectional hierarchy, that there are levels of victimhood in American society that there are levels of victimhood in And the more levels of victimhood you check, the more we should value your opinion and the more victimized you are by American society.

00:03:51.000 Well, that means that Jews don't rank, right? 1.00

00:03:53.000 Because Jews are disproportionately well-educated.

00:03:56.000 Jews are disproportionately wealthy.

00:03:58.000 Jews are disproportionately living in nice areas in the United States.

00:04:03.000 They don't have severe family problems as a general statistical rule.

00:04:06.000 And that means that they don't list on the intersectional hierarchy despite the fact that Jews are per capita the group most likely to be targeted by hate crimes in the United States, for example.

00:04:14.000 But the left doesn't care about that.

00:04:15.000 The left thinks that Jews are not part of the intersectional hierarchy and that means they don't bother to learn The offensive lingo they shouldn't be using. 0.76

00:04:22.000 So the left is supremely sensitive about any language that is used by anyone reasonable, and then they imply that that language is exorbitantly racist, bigoted, sexist, homophobic.

00:04:35.000 So for example, if you say Western civilization, People on the hardcore social justice warrior left will say, what you actually mean by Western civilization, actually, what you mean is you mean white people.

00:04:46.000 You're like, no, I, that's not what I mean.

00:04:49.000 If you say Judeo-Christian culture, like, no, it's not, by Judeo-Christian culture, you mean white people. 0.66

00:04:55.000 What, what now?

00:04:56.000 Say, say what?

00:04:57.000 So their, their, their antenna are up.

00:04:59.000 They're up.

00:05:00.000 Everything is a dog whistle for the left. 0.96

00:05:02.000 Right, when Donald Trump said that this impeachment hearing is a political lynching, they immediately went to, oh, he means like black people. 0.66

00:05:09.000 He's comparing himself to black people being lynched in 1921 Tulsa.

00:05:12.000 That's what he means.

00:05:13.000 And it's like, no, he means the same thing that Joe Biden meant when he talked about Bill Clinton being politically lynched in the late 1990s.

00:05:19.000 He meant like, you know, the long history of people in the United States of many different races actually being killed without a proper trial.

00:05:26.000 I mean, that's what Trump meant, but the antennae are up, except when it comes to the Jews.

00:05:29.000 And you can see this in perfect Perfect ways with regard to this one group at Stanford.

00:05:36.000 So they're holding what they call the silent rally, which has got to be the most boring rally of all time, right?

00:05:40.000 What do you do?

00:05:41.000 You just stand there?

00:05:42.000 It's not even a die-in, right?

00:05:43.000 Like, a die-in is dramatic.

00:05:44.000 You actually festoon yourselves with makeup or something.

00:05:47.000 A silent rally is, I guess, you just stand there, and then we're all supposed to believe that you've been silenced even though you have silenced yourself.

00:05:52.000 Like, you can stand there and yell.

00:05:54.000 I'm not stopping you.

00:05:55.000 Enjoy yourself.

00:05:56.000 So they put out a flyer about me.

00:05:57.000 And again, it just shows that the sensitivity is only supposed to run in one direction.

00:06:03.000 This was their flyer.

00:06:04.000 We are tired of Stanford administration's complicity in putting black, brown, trans, queer, and Muslim students at risk by allowing the Stanford College Republicans to bring Ben Shapiro to campus.

00:06:14.000 So we'll start with this particular point before we get to the insanity of the rest of the flyer.

00:06:19.000 So this is a line that the left likes to use a lot, is that if they hear something they don't like, they've now been put at risk.

00:06:25.000 They've been put at risk.

00:06:27.000 When you come to my speeches, if you've ever been to one of my college speeches, nobody's at risk at any point.

00:06:32.000 People who disagree are told that they should go to the front of the line so that they can ask questions.

00:06:38.000 Everything is very respectful.

00:06:39.000 Everything is very civil.

00:06:40.000 And the fact that they think that this is now putting people at risk, that it is incitement, my language is incitement by virtue of the fact they disagree with it.

00:06:48.000 I've never called for violence against anybody.

00:06:50.000 This is complete insanity.

00:06:51.000 But this is how they try and throw you off campus, is they say that your language is inherently inciting.

00:06:56.000 Why? 0.55

00:06:57.000 Because I say that transgenderism, gender dysphoria, gender identity disorder is a mental illness?

00:07:02.000 How is that inciting?

00:07:03.000 I don't believe that people with mental illness should be harmed in any way, God forbid. 0.99

00:07:06.000 That's ridiculous. 0.97

00:07:08.000 I'm talking about the classification of a disorder.

00:07:10.000 And it's categorized as a disorder in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual.

00:07:14.000 In any case, they continue, we do not protest because we are too sensitive to hear opinions we don't like.

00:07:19.000 We protest because we are strong enough to defend ourselves.

00:07:22.000 Well, no, I'm pretty sure it's because you're too sensitive to hear opinions you don't like.

00:07:25.000 Because it's not just that you're protesting, it's also that you say that Stanford is complicit in putting students at risk.

00:07:31.000 Because I'm saying stuff, okay?

00:07:32.000 But that's not the best part of it.

00:07:34.000 And then it says, please wear black if possible.

00:07:36.000 Which I guess, I'm not sure why.

00:07:38.000 Is it a funeral of some sort?

00:07:39.000 In any case, that's not the worst part of this flyer.

00:07:41.000 So, here is, here's the worst and also the best part of this flyer.

00:07:44.000 So, this flyer includes, it includes a spray bottle, a graphic of a spray bottle, that says on it, Ben be gone.

00:07:51.000 Silent rally, Hoover Tower, 6 p.m.

00:07:53.000 And then below that, there's a picture of me and a picture of an ant and a picture of me and a picture of a cockroach and a picture of me and a picture of a potato bug, it looks like.

00:08:03.000 So I am literally portrayed a Jew as an insect to be exterminated on their poster.

00:08:13.000 Oh, oh, the most sensitive people on earth. 0.98

00:08:16.000 They're so sensitive.

00:08:18.000 Oh, we dog whistles everywhere.

00:08:20.000 And they're just openly saying stuff. 0.69

00:08:22.000 I mean, this is the same kind of it is the same graphic that was being used in like the Rwandan genocide by people who wanted to murder vast swaths of people that famously Famously, the groups in Rwanda were being targeted on radio, the ones that were murdered, they were being targeted as quote-unquote cockroaches.

00:08:39.000 Here you have an exact graphic of this sort of thing.

00:08:44.000 It's like Nazi rhetoric, and they put it on the poster.

00:08:48.000 And then, they issued some sort of apology, which is hilarious.

00:08:52.000 Their apology is almost as bad as the bottle picture itself.

00:08:58.000 I guess it's an ant, a flea, and a beetle on the bottle.

00:09:01.000 So they issued an apology.

00:09:03.000 And in the apology, they call me an anti-Semite.

00:09:07.000 Okay, so they issue an entire flyer talking about how terrible I am and how terrible all of this is.

00:09:16.000 And then they issue like this full... There's no other way to put it.

00:09:18.000 I mean, that image is...

00:09:21.000 I'm not going to say it's anti-semitic. 0.99

00:09:22.000 It's certainly ridiculous. 0.99

00:09:23.000 Okay, it's certainly ridiculous. 1.00

00:09:24.000 I think it's ignorant. 1.00

00:09:25.000 I'll credit them with ignorance because I think they really are stupid to put this on a poster. 1.00

00:09:28.000 I think they're morons more than they are open anti-semites. 1.00

00:09:31.000 But then they apologize by calling me an anti-semite in their letter. 1.00

00:09:39.000 It's beyond... it beggars belief.

00:09:41.000 It beggars belief.

00:09:43.000 Their apology says we would like to apologize to the Jewish community for the flyer put out with the Ben Be Gone bottle that resembled insect spray. 0.98

00:09:49.000 Not me.

00:09:49.000 They're not apologizing to me.

00:09:50.000 They're apologizing to the Jewish community more broadly. 0.99

00:09:53.000 We understand that this imagery plays into anti-Semitic tropes that say Jews are insects and pests that need to be exterminated. 0.96

00:09:58.000 This trope has been used to justify violence against Jews in many instances throughout history and is never acceptable. 0.88

00:10:03.000 We sincerely apologize for using this imagery.

00:10:06.000 While it was not our intention to hurt anyone or invoke Ben Shapiro's Jewish identity with this flyer, we hold ourselves accountable to the impact of this imagery.

00:10:13.000 As a coalition of concerned students that includes Jewish students, we are very sensitive to anti-Semitism.

00:10:19.000 Are you, though?

00:10:21.000 Are you, though?

00:10:22.000 Because you continue this way.

00:10:24.000 They say, therefore, as we call back this flyer and apologize for its anti-Semitic tropes, we condemn Shapiro's unwavering Islamophobia and anti-Semitism.

00:10:33.000 I'm the anti-Semite, you see. 0.81

00:10:34.000 Not the people who put an Orthodox Jew on an extermination bottle of insects. 0.75

00:10:42.000 Me. 0.90

00:10:42.000 I'm the anti-Semite. 0.90

00:10:43.000 The Orthodox Jew who keeps kosher, just spent a month in Israel, keeps Sabbath, sends his kids to Jewish school. 0.89

00:10:49.000 Like, I'm the anti- Nailed it, guys.

00:10:52.000 Nailed it.

00:10:53.000 Right on the money.

00:10:55.000 They say, they reject my anti-semitism, because why am I anti-semitic?

00:10:58.000 They say because of my belief that the only way to be a real Jew is to agree with him, and through his strong support of Zionism.

00:11:04.000 So my support of Zionism makes me an anti-semite, you see. 0.95

00:11:06.000 Because I support the existence of a Jewish state, I hate Jews. 1.00

00:11:10.000 If you can follow this logic, you should join this group. 1.00

00:11:12.000 And then you should go wear black and silence yourself, because you're an idiot. 1.00

00:11:16.000 Really. 1.00

00:11:18.000 By the way, I don't say the only way to be a real Jew is to agree with me.

00:11:20.000 I do believe that Judaism is a philosophy as well as a religion, and if you reject all the tenets of the philosophy and the religion, then it's very hard to argue that you are in any way consonant with Judaism.

00:11:30.000 It's like saying that you're not a real Christian if you reject the divinity of Jesus, right?

00:11:34.000 I mean, that's... it seems like fairly obvious.

00:11:37.000 They also say, we reject Shapiro's false belief in white Western supremacy, that he cloaks in the idea of Judeo-Christian values.

00:11:43.000 Now they're back to the dog whistling.

00:11:44.000 I say Judeo-Christian values, and they say what I mean is white Western supremacy. 0.76

00:11:48.000 White? 0.92

00:11:49.000 When have I ever talked about white people being supreme? 0.98

00:11:52.000 Ever. 0.99

00:11:53.000 Are you out of your minds?

00:11:54.000 The answer, of course, is yes.

00:11:56.000 We will not let Ben Shapiro's manipulative and hateful language divide us, they say.

00:11:59.000 We hope you join us this Thursday.

00:12:02.000 My manipulative and hateful language.

00:12:03.000 Okay, so that is the update from Stanford.

00:12:05.000 I look very much forward to speaking tonight at Stanford University.

00:12:08.000 I think it's going to be a blast.

00:12:11.000 So we'll get to more on that in just a moment.

00:12:13.000 Plus, I do have an update for you on a story that of course made major headlines across the country.

00:12:17.000 That is the story of this kid in Texas who was nearly handed over to his mom, who was basically prepping him for gender transition at age seven.

00:12:25.000 She said she was gonna wait till he was 11, but nothing stopped her from reinforcing all of the kids' supposed priors about being a girl.

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00:13:40.000 Okay, so quick update on this case in Texas, and then I promise we will get to all of the impeachment gate 2019 updates.

00:13:46.000 Okay, so here is the update according to Amanda Prestigiacomo over at Daily Wire.

00:13:51.000 A seven-year-old boy, whose mother claims he's actually a girl named Luna, recently chose to go to school as himself, a boy named James, now that his father has been granted equal say in his transition.

00:14:01.000 Two weeks ago, Dallas Judge Kim Cooks ruled that Dr. Ann Georgilis and Mr. Jeffrey Younger, James' parents, have joint managing conservatorship and joint decision-making over their boys.

00:14:09.000 James also has a twin brother named Jude.

00:14:11.000 Both Georgilis, a pediatrician, and Younger had gag orders placed on them by Judge Cooks barring them from speaking to the media.

00:14:17.000 Well, a third party yesterday posted on Facebook a picture of James going to school as James does going to school.

00:14:21.000 This is what it looks like when James gets to choose.

00:14:23.000 person should not be Mr. Younger.

00:14:25.000 Well, a third party yesterday posted on Facebook a picture of James going to school as James.

00:14:30.000 It says, going to school, this is what it looks like when James gets to choose.

00:14:34.000 Affirm this.

00:14:34.000 Also, a photo taken yesterday just before church, James and Jude, proud to be men.

00:14:39.000 Save James, save thousands of children.

00:14:41.000 In an update, it was noted that Mr. Younger emailed the principal on Monday, and James and Jude's teachers had reported there was zero stress or disruption in the classroom today.

00:14:49.000 Just another day in school, prayers answered, the updates concluded.

00:14:54.000 As you know, Georglas argued that James was actually a girl, because James said that he was a girl, and there was testimony from the father that mom had basically been telling him he was a girl since the age of three and reinforcing all of his gender confusion.

00:15:06.000 Younger said that his ex-wife would, in his opinion, only show James love and affection when he would present as a girl.

00:15:11.000 He also posted a video that we played on the show of James at three, telling Younger that mommy tells him he is a girl.

00:15:17.000 Giorgalis had complete authority over the psychological and psychiatric care for the boys prior to the judge's October 23rd ruling, but the fight over James is not over.

00:15:25.000 According to the Dallas Morning News, now Giorgalis is seeking to have Judge Cooks recused, so she's going after the judge. 1.00

00:15:32.000 Why?

00:15:32.000 Because the judge tweeted out or put out on Facebook an article from the Dallas Morning News and captioned it, the governor, nor any legislature, had any influence on the court's decision.

00:15:41.000 Basically saying, yeah, we're an independent court and the fact that Greg Abbott said that he would step in and investigate had nothing to do with what the court actually ruled here. 0.82

00:15:49.000 Before Younger was hit with the gag order, he told LifeSite News reporter Madeline Jacob his ex-wife contemplated, quote, cutting the penis off James in an email presented to the jury.

00:15:58.000 He said, the Texas I grew up in, the Texas I live in, if a parent did that, we're just gonna give him the child to the other parent. 0.97

00:16:03.000 We're not gonna tolerate that kind of craziness.

00:16:04.000 It tells you how far our society has changed.

00:16:06.000 Well, if that story is accurate, if this is all accurate, then...

00:16:10.000 James is now going to school as a boy.

00:16:11.000 It does give the lie to the idea that somehow this kid invariably identified as a girl, that parental behavior has no impact on child behavior.

00:16:21.000 I mean, that's an insane idea in the first place.

00:16:23.000 That parental reaction to child behavior has no impact on how children act. 0.99

00:16:27.000 That's asinine. 0.98

00:16:27.000 Anybody who has kids knows that. 0.98

00:16:29.000 So we'll keep you updated on that case as updates become available.

00:16:33.000 Okay, meanwhile, the latest in ImpeachmentGate 2019.

00:16:37.000 So the left is trying to dredge up, basically, I think that there's a game that's now being played by the left on ImpeachmentGate.

00:16:44.000 On the one hand, they're suggesting that there is an actual issue With Trump's Ukraine behavior that is impeachable.

00:16:53.000 And there, they're asking a bunch of questions, they're bringing in people to testify, they're running.

00:16:56.000 What is, in effect, a normal impeachment process?

00:16:58.000 I know that a lot of people on the right say that the impeachment process is not normal, that the process is skewed.

00:17:03.000 There is some truth to that.

00:17:04.000 I mean, they did a lot of this behind closed doors.

00:17:06.000 They did not actually comply with the same sort of procedures that they did with regard to the Clinton impeachment.

00:17:10.000 But now they're doing a lot of open doors hearings.

00:17:12.000 Next week, they have vowed that they are going to open the doors and do a bunch of different hearings.

00:17:19.000 Apparently those hearings are going to include hearings with William Taylor, the ambassador, Bill Taylor, who was the highest ranking Ukraine official from the United States during this entire period.

00:17:28.000 Taylor has been militant in his belief that President Trump was attempting to engage in a quid pro quo with the Ukrainian government to benefit himself politically.

00:17:35.000 They're also going to interview George Kent, and they're also going to interview Mary Yovanovitch, who was the ambassador to Ukraine, who the best information seems to suggest was ousted because Trump didn't trust her.

00:17:44.000 And maybe he didn't trust her because Rudy Giuliani was telling him not to trust her.

00:17:49.000 Adam Schiff announced these hearings so that the Wednesday hearing will feature Bill Taylor and George Kent and then next Friday they'll hear from Mary Yovanovitch.

00:17:57.000 So the impeachment hearings are moving forward in a sort of If not normal, then close to normal way, right?

00:18:04.000 This is the way that the process typically sort of works.

00:18:07.000 But then there's another track that the Democrats and the media seem to be pushing, and that is trying to get inside Trump's head, trying to trigger him to do something.

00:18:14.000 And frankly, it's a smart, if nefarious, strategy.

00:18:18.000 One of the things that you saw from the second half of the Mueller report is that President Trump is reactive to the media coverage of him.

00:18:23.000 He is extremely reactive.

00:18:24.000 To the chaos that he senses around him.

00:18:26.000 So, if he feels as though the media are targeting him, he is more likely to fly off the handle, according to the Mueller report, and then he is more likely to say things like, go fire Mueller, and get himself in trouble.

00:18:36.000 In other words, when you put pressure on Trump, he tends to lash out, and exactly that sort of lashing out is what Democrats are looking for, because what they would like for Trump to do is appear to be obstructing the investigation, appear to be involving himself in further law-breaking activity, because here's the truth.

00:18:50.000 It's going to be very difficult for them to prove that Trump engaged in any sort of law-breaking with regard to his Ukraine activity.

00:18:57.000 Now, it may be bad.

00:18:58.000 It may be wrong.

00:18:59.000 It may be something a president shouldn't do.

00:19:01.000 But in order for them to determine that President Trump has committed a crime, they actually have to fulfill statutory definitions of bribery, and that's very difficult.

00:19:08.000 It's going to be difficult to prove that.

00:19:10.000 Even folks on the left acknowledge this.

00:19:12.000 Even if they were to come up with a serious abuse of power, what they would basically have to do in that case Is they would have to show full intent by Trump to get Joe Biden in advance of the 2020 election, not intent by Trump to target political opponents from 2016 out of ire over 2016.

00:19:27.000 Right?

00:19:28.000 One of those has crossover with American interests.

00:19:30.000 We just spent two and a half years investigating whether Russia interfered with the American election.

00:19:34.000 So if we get to investigate that, why would we not get to investigate whether Ukraine interfered in the 2016 election or to condition Ukrainian aid on their investigation of corruption?

00:19:43.000 I mean, Joe Biden allegedly did just that, and that was totally fine.

00:19:47.000 So in order for Democrats to prove actual wrongdoing here, they have to prove intent.

00:19:51.000 Proving intent with Trump is a tricky business.

00:19:52.000 It's a very difficult thing.

00:19:54.000 This is what the Democrats found out in the second half of the Mueller report.

00:19:57.000 It's why they didn't impeach over the second half of the Mueller report because basically the second half of the Mueller report said Trump was fulminating about Mueller all the time.

00:20:03.000 He was ordering members of his cabinet to issue letters to other members of his cabinet telling them to do certain things and then those things were being rejected.

00:20:11.000 And so Democrats could have pushed impeachment, but Trump would have said, listen, I didn't have the requisite intent to shut down the investigation.

00:20:16.000 I didn't shut down the investigation.

00:20:18.000 I had the full power to do so, and I didn't do it.

00:20:20.000 So difficult for you to claim intent.

00:20:22.000 Well, same thing applies here.

00:20:23.000 So instead, Democrats are trying to push Trump to make a mistake now.

00:20:26.000 Not six months ago, not three months ago, now.

00:20:28.000 They're trying to push Trump to do something now that will lead Trump into an obstruction trap, or into a perjury trap, or into something that will create an impeachable offense moving forward, because they actually don't have the goods moving backward.

00:20:41.000 And this is why you're seeing the media start to manipulate their coverage to basically elicit a response that will be wild from Trump.

00:20:49.000 That also happens to benefit them electorally, right?

00:20:51.000 I mean, the wilder Trump looks, the worse it's going to be for him in 2020.

00:20:55.000 Whoever is the adult in the room in 2020 is likely to win because nobody, nobody who is center to center right wants to vote for Elizabeth Warren.

00:21:04.000 All Trump has to do is appear to not be crazy and he will win.

00:21:07.000 All Democrats have to do is appear not to be crazy and they will win.

00:21:09.000 And right now both are failing.

00:21:11.000 So Democrats are attempting, they understand they're not going to make Elizabeth Warren sane. 0.77

00:21:14.000 So instead what they have decided to do is make Trump Act crazy.

00:21:18.000 And the story they are using today to do this is this story from Anonymous.

00:21:23.000 So remember there is a New York Times op-ed writer who wrote anonymously, he's supposed to be a member of the Trump administration.

00:21:28.000 And now that person has written a book.

00:21:31.000 And the book is supposed to be about how Trump is just the worst.

00:21:34.000 The book is called A Warning.

00:21:35.000 Okay, well now, Huffington Post journalist Yash Arli has reported on Wednesday night that the book claims that Mike Pence, the Vice President of the United States, was fully prepared to go along with the invocation of the 25th Amendment to remove the President of the United States from mental incapacity.

00:21:51.000 Now there's a lot of talk about this in left-wing circles immediately after Trump's election that Trump is so crazy he can't be president the cabinet will oust him on the basis of the 25th amendment that he's incompetent and that he has to be put aside.

00:22:03.000 If you know Mike Pence, if you know anything about Mike Pence, the idea that Mike Pence was telling anyone around him that he was ready to get rid of Trump over the 25th Amendment, that is patently ludicrous. 0.95

00:22:14.000 It is insane.

00:22:16.000 But the media have been pumping this story anyway, with a serious amount of credulity.

00:22:23.000 This claim does not warrant credulity.

00:22:24.000 In fact, this claim basically undermines the entire credibility of the anonymous person who wrote this particular book.

00:22:32.000 According to Yasha Ali, the much-anticipated book A Warning, reportedly written by an unnamed senior White House official, claims that high-level White House aides were certain that VP Mike Pence would support the use of the 25th Amendment to have President Donald Trump removed from office because of mental incapacity.

00:22:47.000 The source that provided the excerpts did so on the condition of anonymity.

00:22:50.000 So it's an anonymous source providing stuff from an anonymous book by an anonymous person inside the Trump administration.

00:22:57.000 So now we are now three levels of anonymity removed from reality.

00:23:01.000 According to the Huffington Post, According to Anonymous, there was no doubt in the minds of these senior officials that Pence would support invoking the 25th Amendment if the majority of the cabinet signed off on it.

00:23:10.000 The discussions about invoking the 25th Amendment took place, according to the book, soon after FBI Director James Comey was fired by the president.

00:23:17.000 Katie Waldman, the press secretary for Pence, responded to the news report by tweeting fake news.

00:23:21.000 A top Trump ally in the White House responded to the report, told the Daily Wire, whoever anonymous is, assuming this is actually in the book, has exposed themselves as a complete fraud.

00:23:29.000 Anyone who knows the VP knows he would never tolerate such talk and any such person would be immediately shown the door. 0.93

00:23:34.000 Mark Lauder, the Trump 2020 director of strategic communications, responded to the story, writing on Twitter, this is the dumbest thing I've ever read.

00:23:40.000 I served as vice president's press press secretary at the time. 0.84

00:23:43.000 Anyone who gives this nonsense, any credibility does not know Mike Pence. 0.99

00:23:46.000 By the way, even leftist journalists and center journalists were saying like, this is crap. 0.99

00:23:51.000 Jonathan Swan of Axios says, anybody who covers Pence knows this is an absurd claim. 0.98

00:23:54.000 Well, Jonathan's a good reporter and that is 100% true.

00:23:57.000 Washington Post White House reporter Josh Dousey also agreed said, what Mr. Swan said, Obviously, that's true.

00:24:03.000 But the goal of these sorts of stories is not, of course, to illuminate the situation in the White House.

00:24:08.000 It's to get inside Trump's head.

00:24:09.000 It's to get inside Trump's head.

00:24:11.000 Because the belief is on the left, the more you get inside Trump's head, the more likely he is to be volatile and to do something that will harm him in this whole impeachment saga and in the 2020 election.

00:24:20.000 And listen, I think Trump has reason to be suspicious.

00:24:22.000 I do.

00:24:22.000 I think he has reason to be suspicious of people surrounding him.

00:24:26.000 His administration has been insanely leaky.

00:24:28.000 The media have been given extraordinary access to stuff they should not have access to in any normal administration.

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00:25:57.000 Okay, so.

00:25:58.000 As I say, the strategy of the left getting under Trump's skin, it's not a bad strategy.

00:26:02.000 It isn't a bad strategy because the fact is that Trump has a rationale for being pretty suspicious of the people who are coming after him.

00:26:11.000 So there are tweets now that have emerged from the whistleblower's lawyer.

00:26:16.000 So you remember the whistleblower in this case, right?

00:26:18.000 The whistleblower in this case is the person who first reported the Trump-Ukraine phone call, reported it up the chain, and then there were pretty serious and I think pretty well-substantiated allegations that the whistleblower was coordinating with Adam Schiff's team.

00:26:28.000 And then it started to come out that this whistleblower Whose name has been named?

00:26:31.000 I mean, we mentioned it on the show, right?

00:26:33.000 It was allegedly, right?

00:26:36.000 John Solomon at The Hill reported it.

00:26:37.000 The guy's name allegedly is Eric Jaramillo.

00:26:39.000 It's not illegal for me to say that.

00:26:40.000 Let me just point that out.

00:26:41.000 It's not illegal for me to say that.

00:26:42.000 It's not illegal for Trump to say it.

00:26:43.000 It's not illegal for anyone to say it except for the inspector general of the intelligence community, apparently.

00:26:50.000 Okay, and that's not according to me.

00:26:51.000 That's according to NPR.

00:26:53.000 NPR says, In recent days, President Trump and his allies have amplified their calls for the whistleblower who sparked the impeachment inquiry to be identified, presenting the question of whether it would be a crime for the president to unmask the anonymous whistleblower.

00:27:04.000 Now, let me make clear.

00:27:05.000 The whistleblower laws are meant to protect the job of the person.

00:27:08.000 They're not meant to protect the anonymity of the person.

00:27:11.000 They're meant to protect the job.

00:27:12.000 So you can't fire the guy, which is appropriate, right?

00:27:14.000 When someone blows the whistle.

00:27:16.000 You shouldn't fire them.

00:27:17.000 You shouldn't be able to fire them.

00:27:19.000 But it's not meant to protect their anonymity.

00:27:21.000 And that makes sense because what if the anonymous whistleblower is a partisan hack?

00:27:24.000 And that has some ramifications for things that matter for the country like, say, impeachment.

00:27:29.000 According to Robert Litt, former General Counsel for the Office of the Director of National Intelligence under Barack Obama, he says if Trump thinks he knows the name, he can come out and say it.

00:27:36.000 He's probably as protected as anyone is.

00:27:39.000 Litt and several other legal experts who talked to NPR said that Trump uttering or tweeting the name could in theory trigger an article of impeachment for retaliating against a whistleblower.

00:27:46.000 That'd be kind of rough.

00:27:47.000 But it would not run afoul of any federal criminal statutes.

00:27:50.000 Similarly, if a news outlet, member of Congress, or member of the public outed the whistleblower, legal experts said, no criminal law would be violated.

00:27:56.000 Dan Meyer, lawyer and former executive director of the Intelligence Community Whistleblower Program, says, There's no overarching protection for the identity of the whistleblower under federal law.

00:28:04.000 Congress has never provided that protection.

00:28:05.000 Now, again, is it relevant to the consideration of the American people, who the whistleblower is, and how this whole thing came about?

00:28:12.000 I mean, it is.

00:28:13.000 I think it's important.

00:28:14.000 Now, it's not dispositive.

00:28:16.000 Okay, for people on the left who don't understand the word dispositive, dispositive means it is not sufficient to get rid of the charges against President Trump to point out that the whistleblower is a hack.

00:28:24.000 The whistleblower can be a hack, and his allegations can be true and troubling.

00:28:28.000 Both of those things can be true, but in calculating for the American public, whether this is in fact a good-faith attempt to impeach a president on the basis of constitutional violations, or whether this is a put-up job by Democrats seizing on a violation by President Trump allegedly of the Constitution or official duty, It's funny to me to watch the media pretend that motivation of the people behind this thing doesn't matter when they ran along with the motivations of the people behind impeachment are bad for literally years during the Clinton impeachment stuff.

00:28:58.000 I'm old enough to remember when James Carville was saying about Paula Jones that if you drag a $100 bill through a trailer park, you'll come up with people like Paula Jones.

00:29:05.000 James Carville worked for the president at the time.

00:29:07.000 Was that maligning accusers?

00:29:10.000 I'm old enough to remember when Hillary Clinton went on national television and accused Kenneth Starr of being part of a vast right-wing conspiracy.

00:29:16.000 And Linda Tripp.

00:29:17.000 And everybody else.

00:29:18.000 Vast right-wing conspiracy.

00:29:20.000 Did the media really suggest that that was super-duper wrong?

00:29:24.000 So Trump is doing the same thing here.

00:29:25.000 It's exactly the same thing.

00:29:26.000 It's hard-nosed politics.

00:29:26.000 You may not like it.

00:29:27.000 It's smash-mouth politics.

00:29:28.000 And it's usually the way these things go.

00:29:31.000 Okay, and that is only going to be exacerbated by the fact that the identity of the whistleblower, again, who was mentioned by John Solomon, is the alleged identity.

00:29:38.000 The guy apparently was an Obama acolyte, worked with Joe Biden, worked with James Clapper, was staffed in the White House, in the Trump White House, and then was thrown out and apparently went back to the CIA base at Langley after people in the White House suspected he was leaking to the media.

00:29:54.000 And now it comes out that Mark Zaid, who's one of the attorneys representing the intel community whistleblower, tweeted in January 2017, quote, A coup has started, and impeachment will follow ultimately.

00:30:06.000 He tweeted, we'll get rid of him, and this country is strong enough to survive, even him and his supporters.

00:30:12.000 He also tweeted, as one falls, two more will take their place, apparently referencing the Trump administration employees who defy the White House.

00:30:18.000 Zaid promised that the coup would occur in many steps.

00:30:22.000 So, should Trump be suspicious?

00:30:24.000 I mean, here's President Trump last night at a rally saying, yeah, the whistleblower's lawyer was plotting a coup from the very start.

00:30:24.000 Yes.

00:30:30.000 I mean, those tweets say what the tweets say.

00:30:32.000 I don't know if you saw, I just got off, I'm coming off the plane and they hand me, look at this character.

00:30:39.000 Okay, they just hand me this story.

00:30:41.000 Coup has started, whistleblower's attorney said, in 2017.

00:30:46.000 That was a long time ago.

00:30:46.000 You know when that was?

00:30:48.000 It's all a hoax!

00:30:50.000 They say January 2017, a coup has started and the impeachment will follow, ultimately.

00:31:00.000 It's all a hoax.

00:31:01.000 It's a scam.

00:31:02.000 And you know who helps them?

00:31:04.000 These people right back here, the media.

00:31:06.000 Okay, imagine that Paula Jones's lawyer had said back in 1995 that a coup had started against President Clinton.

00:31:12.000 How do you think the media would treat that?

00:31:13.000 Do you think that they would absolutely uphold the anonymity of Paula Jones if she insisted on remaining anonymous?

00:31:18.000 The answer is likely not.

00:31:19.000 Likely not.

00:31:20.000 So, is Trump suspicious of all this?

00:31:22.000 Yeah.

00:31:22.000 Should he be suspicious of all this?

00:31:23.000 Yeah.

00:31:23.000 Is it going to lead him to make volatile responses?

00:31:26.000 Maybe, and this is why he should be careful, and this is why, again.

00:31:29.000 The people around him, they need to say no to him sometimes.

00:31:32.000 What the Mueller report showed is that when Trump does stuff that's crazy, people around him have to say no.

00:31:36.000 The problem with the Trump-Ukraine stuff is that apparently nobody around him just said, Mr. President, no.

00:31:40.000 That's sort of John Kelly's claim, the former chief of staff, and that seems plausible.

00:31:45.000 We'll get to more of this in just one second, because the media are making hay out of, how dare Trump go after the whistleblower?

00:31:51.000 How dare Donald Trump Jr.

00:31:52.000 mention the name of the whistleblower?

00:31:54.000 And if the parties here were reversed, I have very, very little doubt that the media would be outing this whistleblower inside of 30 seconds.

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00:33:44.000 And the media frenzy over outing the whistleblower.

00:33:46.000 How dare we out the whistleblower?

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00:35:34.000 Alrighty, so let me just note for the record, you know, when I talk about the press and their unwillingness to out whistleblowers, like their standards, their standards and practices, we are not going to mention the name of this whistleblower.

00:35:51.000 Let me tell you a story.

00:35:52.000 Let me tell you a story.

00:35:54.000 This is the story of a CBS News staffer who was just fired.

00:35:58.000 Why was this CBS News staffer just fired?

00:36:00.000 By our illustrious media, by our illustrious media.

00:36:02.000 Why was this CBS News staffer fired?

00:36:04.000 Well, because it turns out that this CBS News staffer was the source of the video from ABC News.

00:36:09.000 of an anchor talking about how the ABC News brass stopped a story on Jeffrey Epstein.

00:36:15.000 Yashar Ali, really good reporter, good dude.

00:36:18.000 Here was his thread on Twitter.

00:36:20.000 You ready for this?

00:36:21.000 Scoop.

00:36:22.000 ABC News execs believe they know who the former employee is who accessed footage of Amy Robach expressing her frustrations about her shelved Jeffrey Epstein story.

00:36:33.000 That former employee is now at CBS and ABC executives have reached out to CBS News executives.

00:36:38.000 In a statement, an ABC News spokesperson tells me, we take violations of company policy very seriously, and we're pursuing all avenues to determine the source of the leak.

00:36:46.000 It's important to note that ABC News does not know if this former employee leaked the footage to Project Veritas.

00:36:51.000 What they do know is who accessed the footage.

00:36:54.000 It's possible that person could have shared it with others who leaked it.

00:36:56.000 As I noted in this thread, ABC News has confirmed they're conducting an investigation into the leak.

00:37:01.000 In response to an email, CBS News says they're declining to comment for this story.

00:37:05.000 Update!

00:37:06.000 Two sources familiar with the matter tell me that CBS News has now fired the staffer in question.

00:37:11.000 This comes after ABC informed CBS that they had determined who accessed the footage of Amy Robach expressing her frustrations about the Epstein story.

00:37:17.000 So just to point out the insane contrast here.

00:37:21.000 The same media who are saying, we cannot know the net.

00:37:24.000 We must never mention the identity of the whistleblower.

00:37:26.000 Who initiated an impeachment inquiry into the President of the United States.

00:37:30.000 We have to keep his name locked up under lock and key.

00:37:32.000 We're not protecting his job.

00:37:33.000 He's protected.

00:37:33.000 He can't be fired.

00:37:34.000 He's a federal employee.

00:37:35.000 He can't be fired.

00:37:36.000 But we're protecting him because that's the right thing to do.

00:37:39.000 ABC News just went to CBS News, a completely different company.

00:37:43.000 They're not the same company.

00:37:44.000 ABC News went to CBS News, a competitor, and said to CBS News, you know one of your employees?

00:37:51.000 That person leaked footage, from us, to other members of the media, on the conservative side.

00:37:57.000 And CBS said, you know what?

00:37:58.000 You're right, we're firing him.

00:38:00.000 What?

00:38:01.000 What?

00:38:02.000 So, amazing, amazing.

00:38:04.000 Really, protecting your whistleblowers over their media.

00:38:07.000 Stephen Miller, not the one from the administration, Red Stees on Twitter, he says, two news networks colluding to fire someone who leaked a massive bombshell about one of them covering up for a highly connected pedophile.

00:38:18.000 Now watch as journalists all turn away so as not to endanger their own future job prospects.

00:38:22.000 But sure, guys, truth to power or something.

00:38:24.000 Guessing there won't be a ton of drum banging about this whistleblower's rights.

00:38:27.000 Uh, yeah?

00:38:28.000 Ya think?

00:38:30.000 So, when you hear the media getting all hot and bothered about the fact that Donald Trump's son tweeted out a link to Breitbart that named the alleged whistleblower, and the media are like, oh, that's so terrible, how could this happen?

00:38:43.000 Oh, it's just, again, he didn't violate a law.

00:38:46.000 Rand Paul has pointed this out.

00:38:48.000 NPR has pointed this out.

00:38:49.000 No law was violated.

00:38:50.000 Is it in the interest of the American public to know who initiated an impeachment inquiry into the President of the United States?

00:38:54.000 I think so.

00:38:55.000 Don't you?

00:38:56.000 Now again, it doesn't answer all the questions that the whistleblower provides.

00:39:00.000 It doesn't answer the allegations by Bill Taylor.

00:39:02.000 It doesn't answer the allegations about Marie Yovanovitch.

00:39:06.000 And it's important to note that those people, right, the ones that the Democrats are painting as patriots, all of them are patriots.

00:39:12.000 We know that because we know their names, right?

00:39:13.000 We know what they do.

00:39:14.000 We know who they are.

00:39:15.000 We don't know anything about the whistleblower except that which has been reported by John Solomon and Breitbart.

00:39:21.000 The fact is that the media have not dug into the story because if they dig into the story, they may come up with some answers they don't like.

00:39:27.000 So the AFP, for example, could not independently verify the whistleblower's identity as not publishing the name. 0.99

00:39:32.000 Weird, because it seems like the entire press was happy to run with Brett Kavanaugh as a gang rapist on the basis of Michael Avenatti saying a bunch of crap. 0.99

00:39:39.000 Pretty amazing. 0.97

00:39:42.000 My favorite is that they say that they're not gonna name the names because they're afraid for the guy's safety.

00:39:47.000 So just to recap, they will fire a person who leaked information relevant to public discussion from a different network But they're afraid to leak the name or talk about the name of a whistleblower who is not protected by law when it comes to anonymity.

00:40:04.000 They won't discuss the name or the identity or anything about the whistleblower.

00:40:07.000 They won't do it because it might put him at physical risk.

00:40:12.000 These are the same people who have outed people who made memes on Twitter.

00:40:17.000 When somebody made a meme of President Trump tackling a CNN-headed cartoon on Twitter, the media outed that guy.

00:40:25.000 When a guy named Carson King in Iowa committed the egregious sin of giving a million dollars to charity after he held up a sign at a college football game and received a million dollars from people offering to buy him beer, the media promptly outed him, went back to his old tweets, and tried to destroy his reputation.

00:40:41.000 They're super concerned, however, about the safety of the whistleblower.

00:40:45.000 I'm sure.

00:40:46.000 It has nothing to do with partisanship.

00:40:48.000 It must be that you are suddenly concerned about the safety of people's private information.

00:40:52.000 I trust the media when it comes to this stuff.

00:40:54.000 They're always concerned about this sort of stuff.

00:40:57.000 According to Vanity Fair, though, that's their excuse.

00:40:59.000 To name or not to name.

00:41:00.000 That is the question that may soon bear down on mainstream news organizations as Donald Trump's allies step up the pressure to make the Ukraine whistleblower's identity public.

00:41:07.000 As in, all over cable news and on the front page of the New York Times type of public.

00:41:10.000 So far, as Politico reported Tuesday, mainstream newsrooms have been unified in their resistance to naming the whistleblower, whose anonymity is meant to be protected by law.

00:41:18.000 Now, again, they say his anonymity is meant to be protected by law.

00:41:20.000 Literally not true.

00:41:22.000 Not true.

00:41:22.000 His job is meant to be protected by law.

00:41:24.000 His anonymity is not specifically meant to be protected by law.

00:41:28.000 On Monday night, Rand Paul implored the media, do your job and print his name.

00:41:31.000 On Wednesday, Donald Trump Jr.

00:41:32.000 raised the stakes.

00:41:33.000 He tweeted the alleged whistleblower's name along with a link to a Breitbart article.

00:41:37.000 He told Yashar Ali, the outreach on this is BS.

00:41:39.000 Those pretending that I would coordinate with the White House to send out a Breitbart link haven't been watching my feed for a long time.

00:41:46.000 The Drudge Report screamed, Jr.

00:41:47.000 outs the whistleblower, but apparently the Drudge Report had previously linked to an article that mentioned the whistleblower, so there's that as well.

00:41:56.000 So again, it's amazing to watch.

00:41:59.000 Suddenly the violation of privacy is a big deal to the media that don't care about privacy at all, except when it applies to apparently one side of the aisle.

00:42:06.000 Representative Jim Jordan, for his part, he is on the Intelligence Committee and he says that we are going to question this whistleblower.

00:42:14.000 Six weeks ago, Schiff said the whistleblower would testify and that he must testify, right?

00:42:17.000 Remember, what happened is that the whistleblower report, the existence of it came out, then the transcript came out.

00:42:23.000 The transcript didn't back everything the Democrats were claiming, right?

00:42:26.000 It didn't say explicit quid pro quo.

00:42:28.000 It didn't make clear that the Ukrainians even knew that military aid was being withheld or any of that.

00:42:31.000 And then Schiff said, well, we're gonna get the whistleblower to testify.

00:42:33.000 Then a bunch of other people came forward and said what Schiff wanted the whistleblower to say.

00:42:38.000 And then he was like, well, I guess we don't have to have the whistleblower testify anymore.

00:42:43.000 Well, according to Jim Jordan, he has a piece in USA Today, he says, Six weeks ago, Schiff said the whistleblower would testify.

00:42:50.000 He has now changed his mind.

00:42:51.000 What happened in the interim?

00:42:52.000 Just two things.

00:42:53.000 We learned the individual met with Schiff's staff, and we learned about their political bias.

00:42:57.000 The whistleblower only knew about the call from the characterizations of others.

00:43:00.000 He waited 18 days before filing a complaint with the Inspector General.

00:43:03.000 During those 18 days, the whistleblower met with Schiff's staff, but failed to disclose this communication to the Inspector General.

00:43:08.000 Schiff also hid this meeting.

00:43:10.000 Americans understand fairness.

00:43:11.000 They know when someone is getting a raw deal.

00:43:13.000 The impeachment push, based on this anonymous and secondhand complaint, is fundamentally unfair.

00:43:18.000 And then Jim Jordan says, President Trump and Zelensky, and President Zelensky of Ukraine, affirmed there was no quid pro quo and no pressure.

00:43:25.000 The transcript of the call shows no conditionality.

00:43:27.000 At the time of the call, Ukraine did not, no security aid was delayed, and Ukraine never took any of the actions it was supposed to take under pressure, and the Trump administration turned over the aid.

00:43:35.000 So that is at least a partial defense.

00:43:38.000 Meanwhile, the Democrats continue to maintain that the identity of the whistleblower is sacrosanct.

00:43:42.000 So nothing is sacrosanct except that, apparently.

00:43:45.000 So that is where things currently stand.

00:43:49.000 Meanwhile, for all the people who talk about the Trump administration basically just being a proxy for Trump himself and ripping into Attorney General William Barr, who's supposed to be a political hack, a massive political hack.

00:43:59.000 Well, it turns out that according to the Washington Post, President Trump went to Attorney General Barr.

00:44:03.000 He wanted Barr to hold a news conference saying that Trump broke no laws in his call with the Ukrainian leader.

00:44:09.000 And Barr declined to do so.

00:44:11.000 According to the Washington Post, the request from Trump traveled from the president to other White House officials and eventually to the Justice Department.

00:44:16.000 Right.

00:44:16.000 This is kind of what you need.

00:44:17.000 As I said, you need people around Trump to just say no to him.

00:44:19.000 And if you have some guardrails, basically, President Trump's presidency is like bowling with my kids.

00:44:25.000 And when I bowl, I don't need the I don't need the bumpers in the lanes.

00:44:28.000 When President Trump bowls here, he needs the bumpers in the lanes.

00:44:32.000 Right.

00:44:32.000 It's good.

00:44:33.000 It's good for him to have the bumpers and the lanes.

00:44:34.000 That's why he has people around him.

00:44:36.000 It keeps the presidency on track.

00:44:37.000 The request from Trump traveled from the president to other White House officials and eventually to the Justice Department.

00:44:42.000 The president has mentioned Barr's demurral to associates in recent weeks, saying that he wished Barr would have held the news conference.

00:44:48.000 In recent weeks, the Justice Department has sought some distance from the White House, particularly on matters related to this burgeoning controversy.

00:44:54.000 People close to the administration say that Barr and Trump remain on good terms.

00:44:58.000 And according to Deputy White House Press Secretary Hogan Gidley, the president has nothing but respect for AG Barr and greatly appreciates the work he's done on behalf of the country.

00:45:05.000 Again, this is, I think, at least in part, an attempt by the media to, again, generate controversy within the Trump administration.

00:45:14.000 By the way, there was some news yesterday that did not get the kind of play that you would have suspected it would get, given the contents of these impeachment hearings.

00:45:20.000 And that is news surrounding Kurt Volker.

00:45:23.000 So Kurt Volker was the special envoy to the Ukraine.

00:45:25.000 He did testify.

00:45:26.000 I mean, his testimony was released.

00:45:27.000 He did testify that he didn't know anything about a quid pro quo.

00:45:32.000 He said, I did not know there was a quid pro quo.

00:45:35.000 And when he was confronted with the fact that Ambassador Bill Taylor had suggested there was a quid pro quo, then he said, well, no.

00:45:42.000 In those texts, he was asking if there was a quid pro quo.

00:45:44.000 He wasn't saying he knew if there was a quid pro quo.

00:45:47.000 So President Trump tweeted out and he said, well, thanks to Volcker for saying there was no quid pro quo.

00:45:51.000 The fact is the only way you're going to know whether there was a quote unquote quid pro quo for something corrupt is when you get Rudy Giuliani in to testify.

00:45:57.000 All of this is going to come down to Rudy Giuliani because all the rest of it is third party perception of action that was being taken by Trump and Giuliani.

00:46:05.000 That's all.

00:46:06.000 That's all.

00:46:07.000 Okay.

00:46:08.000 Meanwhile, bad news for Joe Biden.

00:46:11.000 There's another piece in Politico today for a guy who's supposedly non-shady.

00:46:15.000 He does a lot of shady things for his family.

00:46:17.000 According to Politico.com, in 2013, an oil heiress hired a Florida state senator to lobby the federal government on behalf of a pet cause, banning the slaughter of horses for meat.

00:46:26.000 The lawmaker, Joe Abruzzo, was a close associate of Frank Biden, the younger brother of then-Vice President Joe Biden.

00:46:32.000 At the time, the younger Biden was looking for state funding for his charter school business, and Abruzzo sat on a key appropriations subcommittee in the Florida legislature.

00:46:40.000 The two men met frequently, so it's only natural that when the horse slaughter measure stalled in Congress, Abruzzo sought Frank Biden's help.

00:46:46.000 As those involved recounted months later in videotaped remarks for an equine welfare conference, the VP quickly went to bat, quote, I also turned to Frank and said, we may need a little help from the VP and the administration talking to some senators, said Abruzzo.

00:46:59.000 Biden then leaned on Mitch McConnell to overcome the minority leader's objections.

00:47:03.000 Frank Biden said on video, my brother's long-term relationships in the Senate proved to be the final nail in the coffin to be able to pull this thing forward.

00:47:11.000 By the way, Frank Biden and Abruzzo run a lobbying business together, basically.

00:47:17.000 And get paid money for it.

00:47:19.000 In fact, after Frank Biden and Abruzzo teamed up on the horse measure, after Abruzzo received nearly $900,000 in lobbying fees from his wealthy client, the pair teamed up again to lead the government relations division of a law firm in Florida, where they've been pushing a high-profile class-action lawsuit.

00:47:34.000 So, does it raise questions that Joe Biden's family was doing business in Ukraine?

00:47:37.000 Particularly because, as we've mentioned over the past couple days, there is now some very solid information.

00:47:43.000 that Hunter Biden's firm, that the Burisma firm, had hired public relations specialists to go to the State Department and try to have the State Department relieve pressure on Burisma by using Hunter Biden's name.

00:47:55.000 That report was out there, again, from John Solomon, who's been doing the leading edge on this work.

00:48:00.000 According to Ed Morrissey over at Hot Air, basically, it looks as though Biden's son, that firm, hired somebody to use Hunter Biden's name to get access to the State Department.

00:48:12.000 And a month later, Joe Biden was talking publicly about pressuring the prosecutor to step down.

00:48:16.000 Ed Morrissey says that certainly looks like the kind of corruption of which House Democrats are accusing Trump, does it not?

00:48:21.000 At the very least, these emails undermine the idea that Shokin wasn't being tough enough on Burisma and that no one in the Obama administration connected the dots between Hunter Biden, his dad, and Burisma.

00:48:29.000 It stinks of corruption and interference for personal or familial gain.

00:48:33.000 Accurate.

00:48:35.000 So there's still open questions for Biden that are going to have to be answered here.

00:48:40.000 All right, meanwhile, in the 2020 presidential race, all of this is going to harm Joe Biden, but Elizabeth Warren is running into some headwinds, and those headwinds are coming from people who actually know how business works.

00:48:50.000 So people who are actually in the business world, lifelong Democrats, are looking at Elizabeth Warren and going, No, no, this is not a real human that I'm going to vote for.

00:48:58.000 Bill Gates, who's a, I mean, real lifelong Democrat, has given millions of dollars to democratic causes.

00:49:03.000 Bill Gates was on TV.

00:49:04.000 He warned Elizabeth Warren, I'm going to vote for who is more professional in 2020.

00:49:07.000 And that may not be you, given all of your grandstanding about corporations.

00:49:10.000 Here's Bill Gates.

00:49:12.000 you know, make political declarations.

00:49:15.000 But I do think no matter what policy somebody has in mind, a professional approach is even, as much as I disagree with some of the policy things that are out there, I do think a professional approach to the office, whoever I decide would have the more professional I do think a professional approach to the office, whoever I decide would have the more professional approach in is the thing that I'll weigh the most.

00:49:40.000 And I hope the more professional candidate is an electable candidate. - Okay, what he means by that is Elizabeth Warren is a crazy person. 1.00

00:49:49.000 By the way, Elizabeth Warren then fired back at Bill Gates because this is her shtick, suggesting that she wants to meet with Bill Gates and talk about his wealth tax.

00:49:56.000 She says, I'm always happy to meet with people, even if we have different views.

00:49:59.000 Bill Gates, if we get the chance, I'd love to explain exactly how much you'd pay under my wealth tax.

00:50:02.000 I promise it's not $100 billion.

00:50:05.000 No, you're just going to devastate the wealth of people who have earned it. 0.97

00:50:09.000 Bill Gates has been paying his taxes, and he gives an awful lot of charity, and Elizabeth Warren is an awful, awful liar. 0.98

00:50:14.000 I mean, just terrible. 0.97

00:50:16.000 So, there it is.

00:50:18.000 Even the business community is turning against Elizabeth Warren, which is, of course, why all of the focus is going into impeachment. 0.99

00:50:22.000 Alrighty, time for a thing I like and then a thing that I hate.

00:50:26.000 So, things that I like today.

00:50:28.000 So, Jeff Sessions is going to run for Senate in Alabama.

00:50:30.000 Now, this has drawn the ire of a lot of people.

00:50:33.000 It's drawn the ire of the White House.

00:50:35.000 The White House keeps saying, well, we don't like Jeff Sessions.

00:50:37.000 Jeff Sessions is a bad Attorney General.

00:50:39.000 Actually, Jeff Sessions is a pretty good Attorney General.

00:50:41.000 Jeff Sessions being in that slot basically prevented Trump from engaging in activity that probably would have resulted in this impeachment inquiry two years sooner.

00:50:49.000 People rip on Jeff Sessions.

00:50:49.000 Jeff Sessions was the first senator in the United States Senate to endorse President Trump.

00:50:53.000 He was a longtime ally of Trump, and Trump just crapped all over him.

00:50:55.000 He's a guy who received very bad treatment at President Trump's hands.

00:50:59.000 Trump has still retained all of his advisors.

00:51:01.000 Stephen Miller was a Jeff Sessions guy before all of this started.

00:51:06.000 Sessions is going to announce that he's running for Senate in Alabama.

00:51:08.000 Why am I happy about that? 1.00

00:51:09.000 Because the reason that the Alabama Senate seat right now is being held by a Democrat, Doug Jones, is because the Republicans, like idiots, nominated Roy Moore, an alleged creeper going after 14-year-old girls at the food court. 1.00

00:51:22.000 Allegedly. 1.00

00:51:24.000 And right now, there are people in the Republican Party saying, we don't need Jeff Sessions in this race.

00:51:27.000 We don't need Jeff Sessions in this race.

00:51:29.000 Why?

00:51:29.000 Because it's a crowded field.

00:51:31.000 Representative Bradley Byrne, Republican of Alabama, former Auburn University coach Tommy Tuberville, Secretary of State John Merrill, Stanley Adair, State Representative Arnold Mooney, and Roy Moore.

00:51:41.000 And people are like, well, that's a crowded field.

00:51:43.000 Why do we need one more candidate?

00:51:45.000 That's why you need Sessions in there.

00:51:47.000 Really, if you're a Republican, and you wanna see that seat be read, the only thing that will prevent that seat from going red, literally the only thing, is if Roy Moore is the nominee.

00:51:55.000 If Roy Moore is the nominee, he is not making it into the Senate, Doug Jones is gonna earn himself another term, like a full term, not in a special election.

00:52:00.000 Okay, so what that requires is somebody who can actually consolidate support behind them.

00:52:05.000 The problem with a crowded field is, who is the biggest name in that field?

00:52:08.000 The only two big names in that field are Tommy Tuberville and Roy Moore.

00:52:12.000 And there's a good shot that Roy Moore is able to consolidate his base to a much stronger extent than anybody else in the field.

00:52:17.000 Sessions was a longtime senator from Alabama.

00:52:19.000 Coming back in and sweeping to victory with 65% of the vote would be a very good thing for the Republican Party.

00:52:24.000 The fact that Trump has personal animus for Sessions should not prevent the Republican Party of Alabama from actually putting a Republican back in the Senate.

00:52:31.000 Apparently Sessions has yet to speak with Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell or Senator Todd Young, the chairman of the Senate GOP campaign arm.

00:52:37.000 Sessions has actually not talked to Trump or Vice President Pence either.

00:52:41.000 Although the White House has communicated to Sessions' inner circle, they would view his candidacy extremely unfavorably.

00:52:48.000 The operative said, the one thing you want in 2020 is to ensure that the Alabama race is not a national news story.

00:52:53.000 If it's no drama affair, the outcome isn't in doubt.

00:52:55.000 Yeah, but it will be a drama affair because Roy Moore is going to run again.

00:52:58.000 So what you need is a name who has won before.

00:53:01.000 The operative said, Sessions is the favorite in the primary.

00:53:04.000 If Trump decides to embark on a tweet storm, it changes everything.

00:53:06.000 Right.

00:53:06.000 So tell Trump not to do it.

00:53:08.000 Tell Trump not to do it.

00:53:10.000 I'm sorry, but if Trump's personal animus causes Republicans to lose the Alabama Senate seat again, that is unforgivable, politically speaking.

00:53:16.000 It's insanity.

00:53:17.000 Insanity.

00:53:18.000 Jeff Sessions should run, and Trump should stop it, and that's the end of that story.

00:53:21.000 Okay, time for a quick thing that I hate.

00:53:27.000 Okay, so Beto O'Rourke is out of the race, but not out of our hearts.

00:53:30.000 I mean, he was never really in our hearts.

00:53:31.000 I mean, Beto O'Rourke's the worst.

00:53:32.000 But Beto O'Rourke, Beto, still cruising the land, and he has decided that he is going to be a resistance hero, and he's gonna lobby hard for that commentary spot on MSNBC, which he's been aiming for.

00:53:42.000 That Saturday morning slot is wide open for a Beto comeback, brah!

00:53:46.000 Well, Beto is now going around saying that the American flag is too negative to display.

00:53:52.000 By the way, if this Beto O'Rourke had run in Texas against Ted Cruz, he gets shellacked.

00:53:56.000 This is not the Beto O'Rourke who ran in Texas and lost by two points.

00:53:58.000 This is the Beto O'Rourke who, if he ran in Texas, would get Wendy Davis-style numbers in a gubernatorial race.

00:54:03.000 Here's Beto O'Rourke saying that the American flag is too negative to display.

00:54:07.000 At a time that we seek to repair the damage done following the legacy of slavery and segregation and Jim Crow and suppression, I think it's really important to take into account the impression that that kind of symbol would have for many of our fellow Americans.

00:54:25.000 And so, respect the decision that Nike made.

00:54:29.000 Okay, so, we can't display the American flag, it's too divisive.

00:54:33.000 If you can't display the American flag in America, I would suggest that you might think about whether there's a future for you in the country.

00:54:38.000 I don't see why this is super controversial.

00:54:40.000 Listen, you have a right to burn the flag, you have a right to kneel on the flag, you have a right to do all of those things, but if you believe that the Ameri- if you actually believe, like as a politician, that the American flag itself is too divisive, not all the issues that you're associating with the American flag, the flag itself is too divisive, then there's no future for the country, so why would you stay here?

00:54:58.000 Beto O'Rourke, again, signifying the id of the Democratic base, and that is ugly, ugly stuff.

00:55:03.000 Okay, we'll be back here later today with two additional hours of content.

00:55:06.000 Also, speaking at Stanford University tonight, make sure that you watch the Young America's Foundation livestream.

00:55:10.000 We'll also be livestreaming it from our Facebook account and all the rest, so go check that out tonight.

00:55:14.000 Otherwise, we'll see you here tomorrow.

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Blowing The Whistle On The Whistleblower | Ep. 892

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